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Speaker 2: I listen to the black guy who tips because Rod

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Speaker 2: and Karen are so hot. But as the more modern

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Speaker 2: versions of social media have been obsessive parts of our

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Speaker 2: everyday lives, Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and Tumbler pinion

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Speaker 2: us every time someone likes for comments on one of

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Speaker 2: our posts, their magic of creating bridges is sometimes overpowered

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Speaker 2: by their capacity to help us burn them. As the

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Speaker 2: technology changes in our networks grow wider, we are broadcasting

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Speaker 2: our thoughts and feelings just to chosen friends or limited

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Speaker 2: groups of strangers. Anymore, whole new category now has access

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Speaker 2: to us friends of friends of friends, people we know

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Speaker 2: come with the weighty expectations sometimes for funny content or

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter anymore if we have only met once

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Speaker 2: ourselves going back and forth in a comment thread about

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Speaker 2: anything from Nickelodeon nostalgia to Black Lives Matter, and we

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Speaker 2: At the same time, that feeling of safety and vulnerability

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Speaker 2: in the quick fire world today's platforms have created. Knowing

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Speaker 2: all of this, a lot of critics, some of them

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Speaker 2: former proponents, argue that social media just isn't the place

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Speaker 2: we can't hear each other, tones, that we can't see

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Speaker 2: each other's faces. Empathy is certainly harder to muster than

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Speaker 2: when you're typing into a screen instead of looking into

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Speaker 2: someone's eyes. Online conversations are undoubtedly hard, but that doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean they're impossible. For those of us who have lived

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Speaker 2: much of our lives online, giving up on the possibility

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Speaker 2: of empathetic, empathic connection via technology doesn't feel like a

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Speaker 2: real option. Hey, welcome to the black Out to Us podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host Rod joined us. Always find my co

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Speaker 2: host Kim Karen.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, you know you're part of the show too.

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Speaker 3: I am Miam and you do.

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Speaker 2: The excerpt from is from the book The Future of Feeling, Building, Empathy,

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Speaker 2: and the Tech Obsessed World by Kitlyn you Golic Phillips,

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Speaker 2: And it's near the beginning of the book, which you's

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Speaker 2: in the book. But I think that's essentially the crux

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Speaker 2: that in the bigger you circle gets and if everyone

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Speaker 2: are fine, you know, like I'm interested in your opinions,

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Speaker 2: you know, like I get that a lot, and I'm

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Speaker 2: You find yourselves with people feeling more familiar than they

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Speaker 2: are to you. And it could be because they consume

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Speaker 2: because when you tweet or say something or put someone

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Speaker 4: Yes, and it's also one of those things to where

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Speaker 4: Have I met people online that I would not have

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Speaker 3: But it also, like you say, allow people to.

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Speaker 3: And so yes, I agree, it's easy to burn that bridgement.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know you, I didn't put it any in you,

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Speaker 4: It's like you might think, oh, yeah, you know I

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Speaker 4: But nobody ever asks themselves do I actually know this

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Speaker 2: Like, one of the things I think about is life

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Speaker 2: It's not that this only exists on the internet or

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Speaker 5: But it's about capacity.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: But if I log into my Facebook account, if I

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Speaker 2: I can't manage two thousand relationships.

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Speaker 5: A lot of Twitter followers, don't I lose count?

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Speaker 2: I have shit. I almost sad thirty six thousand Twitter followers. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't know thirty six thousand people. I couldn't name

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Speaker 2: And even if it was say a tenth of those people,

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Speaker 5: And I think it does make us disposable.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: And I think it also makes people extremely entitled, you know,

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Speaker 2: Like there's people that are like this motherfucker got me blocked. Haha,

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Speaker 2: ain't not the best. You know, I'll see y'all, y'all

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Speaker 4: No, they can't. There's no way that they can do that.

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Speaker 4: And also is one of the things to where I'm

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Speaker 3: Interact with real people versus people online. People. For the

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Speaker 4: Interaction with people online has a particular set of rules

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Speaker 4: that only apply online. These motherfucking rules don't apply no

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Speaker 3: Okay. Then you go into the real world and real

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Speaker 4: Like looking at you like something's wrong with you because

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Speaker 4: It's very I don't give anybody the benefit of the doubt,

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Speaker 4: it's a motherfucking problem because you're dealing with real people

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Speaker 4: you know, put on polls for forty days your coworker

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Speaker 3: But they're not interacted with so many different people.

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Speaker 2: to mess you anymore. It's not even and now I

436
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: need to burn you. You know, we've had people that

437
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: say shit about the show, and you know, fans will

438
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: be like I was ready to ride on them, man,

439
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: we should have. And I'll be like, we don't do

440
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 2: that here. Yeah, that that you're allowed to not like

441
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: the show. You're allowed to. You may even in soul

442
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: to disrespect us. We might respond, I don't expect nobody

443
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: carrying no water from me outside of us, because you

444
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 2: ain't me. I handle it the way I want you

445
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: as an adult. So, but I feel like that's almost

446
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 2: the opposite of shit. Now, it's it's we're gonna do

447
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 2: this together. Hey, everybody who follows me, let's all go

448
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: do blank. Let's find this person. Let's say this to

449
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 2: that person.

450
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 4: We're not involved. They don't know what happened. They have

451
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 4: no they have literally no personal investment. They're just taking

452
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 4: your word and whatever you said is right.

453
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 2: And it's partially just entertainment.

454
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 3: You know.

455
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: I watched somebody over the last couple of weeks on

456
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 2: social media where they were going back and forth with

457
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: this person, and it was it was borderline like it

458
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 2: could have been a health melt down for all that

459
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: we know, but it was like sparked by something where

460
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: they were right about it, Like it wasn't like they

461
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: were wrong. But it was like a lot of the

462
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 2: people that were tuning in were tuning in like I

463
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 2: love mess. They weren't tuning in like I want the

464
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: best for you. What do you need from us? It

465
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: was like, how can we harass this person? How can

466
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: we make this entertainment? How can we Hey, I'm gonna

467
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 2: follow everything he does and send it to you, which

468
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: may be some type of trigger for you. For all

469
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: I know. But I'm gonna keep you going until you

470
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 2: burn the fuck out, regardless of what your life is like,

471
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: because I don't have to deal with your actual life. Nope,

472
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: and so I.

473
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: Will consume you to there's nothing else.

474
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: To, nothing but bones, like they don't give a fuck,

475
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 2: and I think, but the mistake is it feels like

476
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: they give a fuck when you're on the other side. Oh,

477
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: they're sending me everything. This person says, Oh, they're doing this,

478
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 2: But think about real life. In real life, right, if

479
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 2: Karen saw means spending a week obsessing on somebody that

480
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: I felt had done me wrong, and she's seen me

481
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 2: tweeting about it constantly, she's seen me doing all this shit,

482
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: she probably come in the other room and like, you, like,

483
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: what's up?

484
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: Like like like like turn that motherfucker off? What is

485
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: going on?

486
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 2: Yes, Like you spend a lot of time in your

487
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: phone lately. Is everything all right?

488
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Because I won't you check

489
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: on you.

490
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: I saw what you were posting. You know, maybe let's

491
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: go outside and put out the phone for a little

492
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: bit that But but we don't have the ability to

493
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 2: do that on social media because it sounds mean if

494
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,479
Speaker 2: I go, hey, you should go outside and blow off

495
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: from steam. This this, this seems to be really getting

496
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: to you. You know, No, they don't want to hear that.

497
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: Now I'm part of the problem. What you want to

498
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: hear And what everybody's gonna say is get on, let's go.

499
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 5: We we're doing it again.

500
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: And it's like, I don't think we really have the

501
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: tools or the ability to care for each other in

502
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 2: the ways that the internet promises will care. Because what

503
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: I find funny is all of us goff at the

504
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: Facebook commercials and the Twitter commercials were like, we're about

505
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: bringing everyone together and we're doing this. We go, ah, bullshit,

506
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: we know we know your site. You're not doing that.

507
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: That's bullshit. Yeah, it's a terrible site. But then you

508
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: ask people, well how come you know, like, like what

509
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: do you use it for? And it's like, well, I

510
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: use it for us to be together and I found

511
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: friends and family.

512
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 3: Same thing the commercials say.

513
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: It's like the commercials are working then, because you do

514
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: believe that's possible, but you have to understand that. But

515
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: then you laugh at the idea of them promoting it

516
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: that way because you know it's actually not.

517
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 4: Yes, and well, people don't fail to realize. People complain

518
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: about all these sites, but you know who is the product?

519
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: Us? We are. We are the product because.

520
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 4: If something is free, which means it's something that you

521
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 4: are not paying for a service for them to provide.

522
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: Most social media platforms are free.

523
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: If they are free, that means you, the person posting

524
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 4: and tweeting and facebooking and instagra and snapchatting, you are

525
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 4: the product.

526
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 2: Yup. So I just like I said, she wrote that essay,

527
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna get swept. It's not gonna change

528
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: anyone's mind if you're a person that already hates her

529
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: and things, especially if you want the people that because

530
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: that was what struck out to me in this essay,

531
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: and this part was like she broke down, like the

532
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: how And this is what I say out the time.

533
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: When you think you're righteous, you can do some evil shit,

534
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: Yes you can, but no one can tell you you

535
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: not right.

536
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 4: Right. And the thing is, if you are a righteous

537
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 4: person and you truly about righteousness, you will actually examine it.

538
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: It's not that those things don't cross your mind. You go,

539
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do that.

540
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 3: That's not right.

541
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: And especially you know I talk about this all the time,

542
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: where I try not to move out of anger because

543
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: my anger always feels right. Yes, I've never been angry

544
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 2: and thought what I was doing was wrong. I've calmed

545
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: down later and thought I could have handled that better

546
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: or differently, or I thought I handled that. But it's

547
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: never been in the middle of me being angry. It's

548
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: always been after And so I tried not to be

549
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 2: moved to anger or move in anger. But the point

550
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: I was making was in this let's say she's writing,

551
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 2: she talks about how like these people in addition to

552
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: like one of them being behind the scenes and and

553
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 2: like really trying to like smooth up to her, so

554
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 2: like behind the scenes it was like hey, sis, hey

555
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: we're good, we're friends. But then on Twitter it was

556
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 2: basically fuck you, you ain't shit, and you know, basically

557
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: throw your name through the mud. And then writing years

558
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: later like to try to make amends, and she was like,

559
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: I'm not responding to this person anymore because like, you

560
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: burn this bridge because it was so tempting. It was

561
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: easier to do that than to reach out to me. Right,

562
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: you could have done the same private reaching out then

563
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: before going off about it for days on Twitter, at

564
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: joining in with this frenzy. I thought you were different

565
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: than that because we were friends, which is something I

566
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: think a lot of people don't understand because what a

567
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: lot of people think is is having principle. I see

568
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: it as joining the freight. You know, we talked before

569
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: on this show where there's people that are that either

570
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: professional friends or friend friends that have gotten hot water

571
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: on social media. I've never jumped in that ship, you know.

572
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: I well know you're thinking I'm not jumping in it

573
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: to defend you necessarily, because I wouldn't really do that either.

574
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: But I'm not jumping in it to get like, oh

575
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: I want to get some because to me, I consider

576
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 2: that being a phony ass individual. I wouldn't do that.

577
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: Like if you've really like if think of somebody if well, shit,

578
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: we have an example, if you know, when Elon got

579
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: in all that ship at that Thanksgiving and they still

580
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: try to bring it up year after year. I never

581
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: was like I want to go after Elon because I

582
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: was like, at the same time, that dude did a

583
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: lot for our show, you know, at the same time, like,

584
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: even if I have disagreed with him about something, I've

585
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: never felt like and now to take this man down

586
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: now to personally insult this person. And I've seen people

587
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: who obviously wanted to join in on the pal on

588
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: burn that bridge, fuck them forever, blah blah blah. That's

589
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: that's their right. But it feels like to me, like, well,

590
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: that's kind of funny because you didn't feel that way

591
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: before this, or you either felt that way the whole time,

592
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: faked like y'all was friends and faked like y'all was cool,

593
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: and then it was like, Oh, I can finally say

594
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: everything I hate about this person, you know what I mean.

595
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about people that work for him

596
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: or had some personal shit. I'm talking about just just

597
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: people that saw it as like a frenzy and I

598
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: want to join in. Yes, Like back to me feels inauthentic.

599
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 4: Yes, people on the outskirts and those are the people

600
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 4: will Oh, you don't really know, I have no idea,

601
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: You're just coming alone because it is thing to talk about.

602
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I thought it was interesting to see SHEI

603
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: minda give her side of these stories or whatever, and

604
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: obviously people are gonna debate it, and I'm not I

605
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: don't know enough of the actors in this to really

606
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: debate it or pretend that I care that much. But

607
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: some of the stuff she said was so on point

608
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: for just the environment of social media, and I'm like,

609
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: sadly it won't reach those people, no, because this is

610
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: the first time she's even tried to set any sort

611
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: of the record straight on it. And you know, and

612
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: like any human being, I can get house just too much.

613
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: But you know, she brings up her parents died during

614
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: the pandemic, and people were rejoicing. People were saying like

615
00:31:53,720 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: this is proof that like this is like justice, the

616
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: setting ship right. Someone was calling her murderer. Someone was

617
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: uh trying to say she like tried to blackball their career,

618
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: when when she's like, that's not true. Somewhat, people were

619
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: like the same people that say words are violence and

620
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: shit like that were saying stuff like we should get

621
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: them macheties and come after you. So like it's that

622
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: kind of thing where you know, she talks about one

623
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: of the people she befriended, like took pictures from her

624
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: inside her house and like was gonna post or posted

625
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: them on social media, was going to and she had

626
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: to be like, no, don't do that. This is my

627
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: house is private, right, Why are you doing this? And

628
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: you know, because people feel like it's some cloud it's

629
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: cloud chasing kind of shit, you know, like look at me.

630
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: But but my point just you got it after this.

631
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: But my point being online is what they were catering

632
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: to because the emails and stuff probably weren't of the

633
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: same tone at all. It was very amicable and stuff.

634
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: It was just like but once you get online, it

635
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: is different.

636
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, and like I said, I realized

637
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 4: that and I will continue to say this.

638
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: Everybody has their.

639
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 4: Different standards on friendship and what friendship is and what

640
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: they think about friends and how they classify them. And

641
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: I've said it before, but some people have very very

642
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 4: low standard in friendships. And there are some things that

643
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, there's certain things where I just want

644
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: to talk to you.

645
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: I just want cheer with you.

646
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 4: Turn everything fucking off. We want to be able to

647
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: joke and laugh and have a good time and I

648
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 4: could be myself and nothing is repeated.

649
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: And honestly, I'm kind of the opposite where I forget

650
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: to do that. Like I go out hang out with people,

651
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: now I'll go I should have taken a picture of something,

652
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: because I do like I'm like, I'm you know, I'm

653
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent, and why would I do that?

654
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: Like I do like the like, hey, we out put

655
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: it on Instagram. It's beautiful, this is dope.

656
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: But everybody is an agreeance.

657
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just one of these things where it's

658
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: like it is a difference between like that and maybe

659
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: just kind of we're doing this for the internet, you

660
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: know or whatever. But yeah, it was some of these

661
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 2: bars in this thing I just thought was like amazing.

662
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, she said, in certain young people today, like

663
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: these two from my writing workshop, I noticed that I

664
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: find increasingly troubling a cold blooded grasping, a hunger to

665
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: take and take and take, but never give, a massive

666
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: sense of entitlement and inability to show gratitude and ease.

667
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 2: With this honesty and pretension and selfishness that is couching.

668
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: The language of self care that's a huge one, and

669
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: expectation always to be helped and rewarded, no matter whether

670
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: deserving or not. Language that is slick and sleek but

671
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: with little emotional intelligence, an astonishing level of self absorption,

672
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 2: an unrealistic expectation of puritanism from others, an overinflated sense

673
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: of ability or of talent, there's any at all that's shade.

674
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: And the inability to apologize.

675
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: That's the biggest one right there.

676
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. I asked that question a couple of years ago

677
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: on my Facebook, like when's the last time you apologize?

678
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: And almost everybody who had apologized that only apologize to

679
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: children and their own.

680
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 4: That speaks loudly. Yeah, yeah, everybody fucks up, everybody.

681
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 2: Like I saw someone was tweeting last night a thread

682
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: about forgiveness, and it reminded me of some of the

683
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: stuff we said on the show. But they were kind

684
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: of like, yeah, people keep talking about forgiveness like it's

685
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: just easy and dah dah da da. And one of

686
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: the things that made me think was like, yeah, but

687
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: if you were thinking about your child, you would not

688
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: talk about how long it took you to forgive them,

689
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 2: because you don't. That's not that's not a function. When

690
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: you're talking about your child, who you love pretty much unconditionally,

691
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: you can you can forgive them without a thought because

692
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: they're like, I love you, I understand you, I knew

693
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: you were gonna make mistakes. I forgive you doesn't mean

694
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: we won't try to make better decisions. Doesn't mean I'm

695
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: not gonna talk to you, doesn't mean you're ain't gonna

696
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: get in trouble. But of course I forgive you, you know,

697
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: because we can do that with children, We can do

698
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: that with our own children. We can't really do that

699
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: with everybody else. And that and it made me think

700
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: of us. But she said that truly and fully without justification.

701
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: Oh soe an inability to apologize truly and fully without justifications.

702
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: A passionate performance of virtue that is well executed in

703
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: the public space of Twitter, but not in the intimate

704
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: space of friendship. My nigga, when I tell you, like,

705
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: like I was reading this at like three in the morning,

706
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to get out of bed

707
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 2: and just be like preach because like some of this ship,

708
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: like I said, I don't know about the interpersonal workings,

709
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: because this is just her side of ship, and I

710
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: don't really get into the other people's side of shit.

711
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure they you know, you know, if this is

712
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: true about them, then they would It's obvious what they're

713
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: gonna be saying. If it's not true, then they're you know,

714
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: then then that means everything she says a lie, which

715
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: is but the stuff I could relate to about social media.

716
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: I was like, yes, that, you know, I've experienced that,

717
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: like a person that can't They can talk a good

718
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 2: game about emotions and responsibility and empathy and all this shit,

719
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 2: but when it's.

720
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 3: Time time to soot you, you don't get it.

721
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 4: And like for me, I am an adult, but there

722
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 4: are some things in life I view kind of almost

723
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 4: childlike and innocent, and.

724
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 3: I have been hurt because of that. But that's life

725
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: and that part of me.

726
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 4: I never want to let go because I am, you know,

727
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: very depending on the situation, I'm quick to forgive.

728
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: I'm quick to let stuff go. I don't like to

729
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: hold things to the to my heart.

730
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: I don't like to be way down because life is

731
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: too short for me to weigh be weighed down by

732
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 4: some bullshit that don't matter.

733
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: That person done moved on with their.

734
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 4: Lives and they ain't thinking that fucking twice about the

735
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 4: bullshit that I've shackled myself to the ground about.

736
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: They ain't talk twice about me, and I'm up.

737
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 4: Here mad and upset and in my own head and

738
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 4: thinking about them, and you know, then you go ask them,

739
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 4: But like, oh, I didn't even think twice about that.

740
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 4: So I've wasted months, days, years, decades sometimes mad and

741
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 4: upset about something and having this person giving this person

742
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 4: power over me, because literally, you give a person power

743
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: over you if they enter a room and your whole

744
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 4: attitude changes. So I refuse to give you that much power.

745
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 4: You will not dictate how I feel about a situation

746
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 4: just because you walked into the room.

747
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 2: And I think, also, what if you Okay, take that

748
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: same thing, But what if you were lying? Like what

749
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: if you like, what if I actually didn't do the

750
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: thing and you've been mad at me for decades according

751
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: to online and then probably email me behind the scenes

752
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 2: and be like, yeah, I might have handled that bad.

753
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: I was actually wrong. You've been nothing but good to me.

754
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: And I do know that you These are not things

755
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: that you believe that I said you believe I think

756
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: that's what That's what she's saying happened to her, which

757
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: to me is much worse. Yes, you know what I mean,

758
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 2: because at that point, it's not about moving to forgiveness.

759
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: It's like you slighted me in a but you didn't.

760
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You like, I'm here to

761
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: testify in your downfall because it's gonna get me attention.

762
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: That's a scary fucking thing.

763
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 4: But it's real, yes, And so people will use real

764
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 4: intelligent emotions and manipulate them so that they can duplicate

765
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 4: it to trick people into believing them. Like for me personally,

766
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 4: that's something that I would never do, but I know me,

767
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 4: you know, But yes, people, that's the thing.

768
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: People can mimic these things.

769
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: People can take these things and almost like cut copy

770
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 4: paste because they've seen somebody else do it. Just because

771
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 4: you've seen somebody else do it does not mean that

772
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 4: you can you can duplicate it. But people will eventually

773
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: find out.

774
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 2: That this isn't real, because I mean, you hope, because

775
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I think people are so lazy they won't

776
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: find out. I think also people like these groups of

777
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: ganging up on people. There's a social capital to it,

778
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 2: and I don't want to give it up. I don't

779
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: want to lose my position in the group by going Guys,

780
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: I actually think y'all are going way too hard or

781
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 2: overstating what happened, you know, Like I said in that

782
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: Sarah Schulman's book where she talks about overstating harm, there's

783
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: a social connection to overstating harm, and there's a reward

784
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: system for overstating harm because part of what we get

785
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: rewarded with now is attention. What's gonna give me the

786
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: most attention? Hey, y'all, I think Karen spoke, or I go, hey, y'all,

787
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 2: I think Karen said some anti black shit and she

788
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: hates black people. People gonna come run into that second one.

789
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and they will. And I think that people

790
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 3: have a tendency to do that.

791
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 4: And I know, oh, for me, this is probably a

792
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 4: big reason why most of my life, even as a child,

793
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 4: I've always been a loner because I don't got to

794
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 4: be a part of the group. I don't have to

795
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 4: be a part of the clique. I don't have to

796
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: be a part of the club. I'm okay with being

797
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 4: on my own. I'm okay with being separated. So a

798
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 4: lot of those pressures that people have with being a

799
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 4: part of y'all, this ain't right. And they'd be like,

800
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 4: what's something wrong with you, bitch? Beat it okay?

801
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: And I mean, I wouldn't call you a loner. I

802
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: don't think you are. I think you've just learned to

803
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: set better boundaries Because there was a time where you

804
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: wanted to sign up for everything and do everything and

805
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 2: be and everything.

806
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was trying a lot of time.

807
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: So like, I think you just set up boundaries over

808
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: the course of your life now that you may to

809
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: you like, I think you may feel like you're a

810
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: loner now, but you're not really. I don't think you're

811
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: necessarily alone. I think you just found this balance of

812
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 2: boundaries and like, I'm just not doing everything for everybody.

813
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 7: But you used to do.

814
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: For everybody. Doing too much, she says. People who ask

815
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: you to educate yourself while not having actually read any

816
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: books themselves don't know, while not being able to intelligently

817
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: defend their own ideological positions, because by educate they actually

818
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: mean parrot what I say, flat and all nuanced, wish

819
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 2: away complexity.

820
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 5: Like I said, she had bars throughout this.

821
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: I can't speak to the personal nature or this, but

822
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: I was just reading this shit last night, Like, yep,

823
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: that is absolutely what the fucking be feeling like. People

824
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: who will the words violence and weaponize like tarnished pitchforks,

825
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: people who depend on obfuscation, who have no compassion for

826
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: anybody genuinely curious or confused, ask them a question, you're

827
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: told that the answer is to repeat a mantra, ask

828
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: again for clarity and be accused of violence. How ieronic

829
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: speaking of violence, that is one of these two who

830
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: encourage Twitter followers to pick up machetes and attack me.

831
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: So that part the last bar is probably about the

832
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: personal shit that she went through. So we have a

833
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: generation of young people on social media. You're so terrified

834
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: of having the wrong opinions that you have robbed themselves.

835
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: They have robbed themselves with the opportunity to think and

836
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: learn and to learn and to grow.

837
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, they're afraid to say anything.

838
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I tell people like take the shit offline. Yes,

839
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 2: and I really do mean that because I think, while

840
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 2: I may feel counterintuitive, online is not actually a great

841
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: place for learning because it's like learning in a classroom,

842
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: but the classrooms run by like Gordon Ramsey, where you

843
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: say a wrong answer and then they come the professor

844
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 2: kicks his chair from underneath the desk, flips over his desk,

845
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: runs up in your face until you get the fuck

846
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: out of the class. That's not a healthy learning environment.

847
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: You gotta go learn places with people who do this.

848
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: Everybody who does this actual type of work, especially those

849
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: who do the work offline. They may have an online presence,

850
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: but people who actually do the work and you talk

851
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: to them, they don't move like this because they're like,

852
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: it's not just about how I appear online. It's like

853
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: when you talk to somebody that works in the area

854
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 2: of police reform, police abolition and stuff, when you talk

855
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: to them in person, compared to what somebody who says

856
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: they want police reform of police accountability and stuff online,

857
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: the conversations are different. When it's like, oh no, I

858
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: have to go into the community and talk to these people.

859
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: It's a different conversation in Twitter, where it's like either

860
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: save the hashtag or shut the fuck up.

861
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 5: That's not necessarily a conversation. It's definitely not a learning environment.

862
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: So for people who don't that do need to learn,

863
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: that may say the wrong thing as they're figuring it out,

864
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: they may have some questions and they're not coming from

865
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 2: a negative place. To deal with it without the assumption

866
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: of negativity behind it is important. But yeah, she says,

867
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 2: and I've spoken to young people who tell me they're

868
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: terrified to tweet anything that they read and reread their

869
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: tweets because they fear they will be attacked by their

870
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 2: own The assumption of good faith is dead.

871
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, bar.

872
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 2: What matters is not goodness but the appearance of goodness.

873
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: Of bar, which actually matters a lot.

874
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: We're no longer human beings. Where now angels jostling to

875
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: out angel one another. God help us. It is obscene. So,

876
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: like I said, it was part of this. When I

877
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: was just like, you know, like some of the state,

878
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: I was like, my name is Paul, and that's trying, y'all.

879
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: But then some of it I was like, Yeah, that

880
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: that feels like how social media has become over time,

881
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: and that feels like we have lost a lot of

882
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: empathy and stuff if we ever had it in the

883
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: first place. The promises of social media and what they

884
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: were gonna bring have not borne that few.

885
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: Right, A lot of people never.

886
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 4: Had empathy, They never had sympathy, Like this was not

887
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 4: a part of the character offline, right, But there are

888
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 4: people that these features quote unquote are part of their personality.

889
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 4: So for a lot of those type of people, online

890
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 4: could be very hard to navigate because you know, you're

891
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 4: reading these things and they are really affecting you, and

892
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 4: people who don't have that same connection that don't have

893
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 4: that same feeling have atency not to understand you, like say,

894
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 4: and they mimic it. Because the thing is, if you

895
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 4: are a truly empathetic person, you can literally see both sides.

896
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 4: And a lot of people get angry with people that

897
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: are that are impacted because they just want to see

898
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 4: their side and their side only, and they they're like

899
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 4: fuck them.

900
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: You be like, no, you know, really, you got.

901
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 4: To consider it, you know, because if you consider that,

902
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 4: that means you have to look at them as a

903
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 4: whole ass human being, just like you look at yourself

904
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 4: as a whole ass human being. And you know, when

905
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 4: you really analyze it, depending on situation, you really might

906
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 4: not be as mad as mad and or you really might.

907
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 3: Realize it's not as important as you think it is.

908
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 4: But you know, when you're mad and when you're angry

909
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 4: and when you just you know, you don't see it

910
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 4: because you only see one side blindly.

911
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've learned to take a lot of that stuff

912
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: to the podcast or just offline because you can't. You

913
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: it's like get down or lay down. If you're not

914
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: laying down, then you know, then you know, if you're

915
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: not getting down, then they're gonna lay you down. Uh anyway, Danica,

916
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: you're welcome. All right, let's get into the show. But

917
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: uh yeah, I thought it was a pretty good start,

918
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: you know, welcome back to the reader's block reading Rainbow segment.

919
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: What do I want to start with? I did want

920
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: to say because I saw we got to email. I

921
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: don't want to get a bunch of them, so let's

922
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: start uh there. But they did officially take away the

923
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 2: funding for the latter plantation group that runs it, so uh,

924
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: he did, right, the county did. So they haven't officially

925
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: announced what they're gonna do. It's an annual funding thing.

926
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: They do it every June thirtieth.

927
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: I think that they've been doing it within the nineteen sixty.

928
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 2: I think that's something like didn't they say thirty years

929
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: on the news? Yeah, thirty They've been doing a long time. Yeah,

930
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: been doing like it was like thirty seven years or

931
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: some shit like that. I don't know, but they've been

932
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: doing it in a long time. Because of the description

933
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: of the Juneteenth event, which I absolutely do believe the

934
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: post that he posted about how it was going to

935
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: go down, I feel like all of that was in

936
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: the original thing but the description left up left a lot.

937
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: The description left a lot up to the audience, and

938
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: I get how and why some people found that to

939
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: be not just offensive, but they assumed the worst, because

940
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: I think assumption of the worst is what the internet

941
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: runs on. And even though a lot of Plantation was

942
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: planning to do some like white sympathizing event, I can

943
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: see how people, especially in this day and age, took

944
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: it that way. I totally understand why he didn't apologize.

945
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 3: I get it.

946
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: I would have been angry as well, because it's almost

947
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: like you're accusing me of the worst thing you can

948
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: and for a person with my job, I can't think

949
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 2: of something that would make me more mad than you

950
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: basically saying I'm a coon and I just made some

951
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: I'm about to do some coon programming. So you know,

952
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: he responded out of place of anger, I think, And

953
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: ultimately he's gonna pay the cost for that, because they

954
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: losing all their fun, they losing all the fund and

955
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: they won't be mark or actually they were holding the funding,

956
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: and then they won't be renewing their contract. So if

957
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 2: you would have handled it in a different way, if

958
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: he would have apologized, even if he didn't feel like

959
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: even if he felt like it was unfair what happened,

960
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 2: if he would have found a way to like ap guys,

961
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: he probably maybe still have that job or whatever, and

962
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: they still have that contract. So I thought that was,

963
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: you know, sad news to hear they actually do still

964
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 2: do weddings out there, which I didn't know until after

965
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: the show. I wouldn't someone told me about it. I

966
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: was like, oh, for real, so they do still do

967
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: weddings out there, which obviously is not him managing that,

968
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: but still it made me think about isn't it weird

969
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: that you can get married at Ladder Plantation. People are

970
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: not going to protest that. No one seems to be

971
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 2: upset that that's still happening.

972
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: There because they do not care.

973
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, I don't think anyone's going to necessarily

974
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: attend the event, but it was just a description with

975
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: viral but it just I don't know, like it is

976
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: still one of those things that's very frustrating because I

977
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: do think the event could have been a word earthWhile event.

978
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: But I also understand the sympathy. I have sympathy for

979
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 2: my folks within the community that are like, now you

980
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 2: need to explain it to me slow, you know, like,

981
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 2: what was you gonna do exactly? Because this don't sound

982
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 2: like it, you know, And I think because of his position,

983
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: you have an obligation to explain it to the community.

984
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: You don't get to go off as much as I

985
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: identify fifth and understood, you don't get to be the

986
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 2: guy that he is at that job and then turn

987
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: around to these people who don't understand and be like, basically,

988
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: I ain't gotta explain nothing, agreed. I think that's why

989
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 2: he lost that.

990
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 4: Yes, I agree, And you know, I think that it

991
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 4: was one of those things where we talked about it

992
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 4: before you spawned out an anger.

993
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: You could tell that that was anger. It was like,

994
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 3: y'all don't come up here. You don't do shit.

995
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 4: You never set a fucking foot here, Nobody putting no

996
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 4: camera in my face, No nobody interviewed me, but y'all

997
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 4: writing this fucking bullshit hit hit peace and got people

998
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 4: hitting up our shit from all over across the country.

999
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 4: And half of y'all didn't even know this motherfucker existed

1000
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 4: until this happened. Yet the dude that.

1001
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: Did it, who came up with the event as a

1002
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 2: black man and I could see in the responses even

1003
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 2: how and this is the thing we just talked about

1004
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: with the internet. You get grouped up, you create a narrative,

1005
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: whether it's false or not, it has to be the

1006
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 2: narrative or else you end up losing something because no

1007
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: one wants to admit any fault. No one wants to

1008
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: admit they got anything wrong. And one of the main

1009
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: things was white people came up with this program and

1010
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: to dishonor black people on June Team. And then you

1011
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: find out the truth, which is that this brother is

1012
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: not about that. It's actually gonna be it's actually a

1013
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: program by him, and it's actually a program that was

1014
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: not about to empathize with the Master. It was really

1015
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: gonna be more you know, sarcastic and making fun of

1016
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 2: them and pointing out, you know, the the ugly evil

1017
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: mentality of these people. And what I saw in the

1018
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: comments was people saying, well, the white people who came

1019
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: up with this and then made you the face of it.

1020
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, because you can't. He just told

1021
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: you what it is, but we already made a narrative

1022
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: that it was something else. I'm now trying to align

1023
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: what you said with this because it don't seem like

1024
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 2: you are coon. So I don't want to just say

1025
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: that because you don't seem like that kind of dude.

1026
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: And but at the same time, I do want to like,

1027
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 2: I don't want this program. We already we already protesting,

1028
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: so we gonna.

1029
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: We showed up with the times.

1030
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 4: We're not redoing the signs, but the hashtag is already

1031
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 4: you know, we already got the hashtag.

1032
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: Tim, Well, let's add a comment to the sign to

1033
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: keep it going. And so I think that's what what

1034
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: I just went to. Like when I went after the

1035
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: show and started looking in a little bit further, I

1036
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 2: was just like, Okay, yeah, I see where this came from.

1037
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: It was another thing that happened in two thousand and

1038
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 2: nine where allegedly, which is it's weird to say allegedly,

1039
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 2: because it sounded like nobody did much research beyond this.

1040
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 2: It was all like we heard, but let's but it

1041
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: reminds me of another story color on the show where

1042
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: there was an incident where there were kids on a

1043
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: tour group and you know, the plantation.

1044
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: They like.

1045
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: Like, you know, here's the field, here's this thing and stuff,

1046
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: and so one of the things he did was tell

1047
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: the black kids like, hey, if this was the eighteen

1048
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 2: hundreds when this place was built, y'all would be over

1049
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 2: here with where the slaves are doing, like whatever, Like

1050
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: y'all be working, and these white kids, white kids, y'all

1051
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: step over here, y'all will be watching them. And to me,

1052
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: that's an illustration of this is how it used to be.

1053
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: And I want you all to understand how fucked up

1054
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: that was. But people, of course took that out of

1055
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: context and was like he he made those black kids

1056
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: feel like slaves. And it's like we've talked about this

1057
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 2: on the show before when Governor Blackface Wife went to

1058
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: the on the plantation tour and like handed some of

1059
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 2: the kids from cotton, and people were like, why would

1060
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: you hand those black children cotton? And I was like,

1061
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: I don't, you're doing this. It's a plantation that they're

1062
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 2: gonna be learning about slavery. There's not a good way, no,

1063
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: that they're gonna learn about slavery. It's not that she

1064
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: she didn't say y'all are now slaves. She didn't say, boy,

1065
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: get over there, like it was like she's not trying

1066
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: to transport them back. She's trying to make this real

1067
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 2: and tangible to these children. But there's no untraumatizing way

1068
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: for black kids to learn about slavery, essentially, because if

1069
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 2: you're a human being, it's gonna traumatize you a bit.

1070
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: And if we're being a thousand, the white kids should

1071
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: be traumatized a bit too, and if they not, it's

1072
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 2: a traumatizing thing.

1073
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and me, me and you were talking about this,

1074
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 3: and I am to the understanding of this.

1075
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 4: When it comes to slavery and the history of America

1076
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 4: and things that's going on.

1077
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: Something somebody is doing something to educate people, and you

1078
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 3: have extremes on both sides.

1079
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 4: You have white people to go, I don't want to

1080
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 4: learn it, and you got niggas to go, I don't

1081
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 4: want to learn it, And both of these groups come

1082
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 4: out every time something happens, and I'm in the middle.

1083
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I want to learn about it.

1084
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 3: It should exist.

1085
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 4: But the thing is, if you're too busy protesting about

1086
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 4: something and you look to your left and you right,

1087
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 4: and you're right, and you realize the clan member is

1088
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 4: arguing the same thing you arguing, you might want to

1089
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 4: reconsider your position in where.

1090
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 3: You stand on things.

1091
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: I think once you already have it out there, it's

1092
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: just impossible to put back because they were essentially saying,

1093
00:56:52,680 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 2: even to even to ridicule the white person in their perspective,

1094
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 2: you can't tell the story, right, which I'm i you know,

1095
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 2: my personal believer is like, I don't think I support that.

1096
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: Like there is if you're gonna have something in there

1097
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: and a white person's gonna be part of the narrative,

1098
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: and it's us being like, look how disgusting these motherfuckers were.

1099
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that.

1100
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 3: I'm fine with it too.

1101
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 4: And the thing is, you cannot talk about American history,

1102
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 4: particularly when it comes to slavery and all that stuff,

1103
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 4: and exclude white people and a lot of people, a

1104
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 4: lot of black people only.

1105
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 3: Won't slavery talk from the black perspective.

1106
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: And I'm just fine because it's still a black perspective.

1107
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: You have to understand, he's not teaching you, right, They're

1108
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: just having a white person voice. It's like having someone's

1109
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 2: voice a character, right, that's not that's not it's not

1110
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: anyway that that that's totally tangential to the point. My

1111
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: main thing I wanted to get to though, in that

1112
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine incident. They interviewed this dude and

1113
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: he was like cause, they were like, you know, you

1114
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: had the black kids in this area, you had the

1115
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: white kids over here. You were teaching them this thing.

1116
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: And he was like, loo, because it's a plantation. I'm

1117
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: not trying to teach them to be politically correct. I'm

1118
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: teaching them the historical correctness, which is this is what

1119
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: happened here. Now. I'm not saying this is obviously wrong.

1120
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: I want them to understand it on a on a

1121
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: on a on a physical level, like, look at this shit.

1122
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: This is foul.

1123
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 5: Do y'all not see as white children, how fucked up

1124
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 5: it is black kids that you know?

1125
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: Because we you know, I think it's it's so interesting

1126
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: we think black kids are supposed to learn about slavery

1127
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: through osmosis. We don't really want to teach them shit.

1128
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: We just expect them to grow up and understand it,

1129
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: get ambushed into this fucked up racist ass world and

1130
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: be like well because and it's and you know, if

1131
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm being fed with black people, we don't. It's because

1132
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 2: we love our kids, and we we know when we

1133
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: start teaching them this, the childhood is over. But if

1134
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: my job is to to teach kids.

1135
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 4: I gotta teach them right, and it is actually a

1136
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 4: disturbance to the children not to prepare them.

1137
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 2: I remember being a kid with my parents behd me

1138
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: these books and ship and then we do these school activities,

1139
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: and my black classmates always felt it always felt like

1140
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: they were getting blind sided. And to me, I was like,

1141
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 2: what like to me, I was it made me feel

1142
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: weird because it was like, like, we go to James K.

1143
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: Polk and they show us like the slave quarters and

1144
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,479
Speaker 2: this is back before I think even it was even

1145
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: really like comfortable, like it was breaking ground for them

1146
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 2: to start being like, yes, and slaves stay here like

1147
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: before that they were it was workers and ship like that,

1148
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 2: and the house attendant stayed out here.

1149
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 5: And to me, as a kid that had read some books,

1150
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, so this was a slave state.

1151
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 3: And you're saying that out loud and native they want

1152
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 3: to go yeah, like.

1153
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,439
Speaker 2: You know even tho I'm not saying it out loud,

1154
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying it internally, like when they're going and they

1155
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: would make they would make corn cakes out here, and

1156
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, so that this is away from the house,

1157
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: so not the kitchen in the house, so this is

1158
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: what the black people did the work, because I already knew, right,

1159
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 2: you know, But then I would listen to the language

1160
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: that they told us as kids, and I was young.

1161
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: I was not some old ass kid. I was like

1162
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: probably still grade school. And I was thinking to myself, like, so,

1163
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: y'all not gonna tell these other kids what happened and

1164
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: so and in that way, they think they're sparing us

1165
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 2: because we all get back on the bus and go

1166
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 2: ooh we got to try corn cakes.

1167
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to make lie soap. Yeah, we got

1168
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 3: to go out here and pick apples.

1169
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I'm on the bus thinking like, y'all didn't

1170
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 2: teach us anything. Really, y'all made it seem like we

1171
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: took a fun trip to James K. Polk's house, who

1172
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: went on to become president. Isn't this a lovely moment?

1173
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 3: Right? You got out of school for a few hours.

1174
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: I left thinking we didn't even learn about nothing, you.

1175
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 4: Know, like.

1176
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,439
Speaker 3: You disappointed. Everybody was like yay, Roger Man.

1177
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, I just thought it was

1178
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 2: kind of wild because like, a lot of motherfuckers just

1179
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 2: learned about Tosa. Agree, a lot of motherfuckers just learned

1180
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: about June teenth, me, yeah, like and then to already

1181
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 2: be like that's enough. We think we understand it better

1182
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 2: than the people that have been working in the field.

1183
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 4: You know.

1184
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 2: Like there was a professor fro John C.

1185
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 5: Smith that was like, nah, this is valid.

1186
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: This is a valid presentation he was about to do,

1187
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: and it was like, well, they he must not understand.

1188
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, he's a fucking professor.

1189
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 4: That's been doing this his whole life and he sees

1190
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 4: some value to it, right, academically and intellectually he sees

1191
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 4: some value. It's okay to disagree, but understand, this is

1192
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 4: not No one's trying to hurt you with this.

1193
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 2: This was this was just another thing. So I think

1194
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: the imagination is so it's not even it's just that

1195
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 2: what did my mind to say that the assumption of

1196
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: good intent is gone? It's over? I think that's what

1197
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: it is. Is like it just creeped into real life

1198
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,479
Speaker 2: because that dude thought the assumption of good intent would

1199
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 2: carry him. He said, Oh, but y'all know me. I'm black.

1200
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 2: I've been doing this job for a long time. If anything,

1201
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,959
Speaker 2: y'all think I'm too hard when it comes to this shit.

1202
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 2: In two thousand and nine, y'all said, chill. So he's

1203
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 2: like I thought in twenty twenty one we could we

1204
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 2: could talk about some real shit, and everybody's like, nah,

1205
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: and take the fund in the way and get rid

1206
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 2: of it. And I saw the news report and like

1207
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,439
Speaker 2: the people leaven comments, even the like the Indo people,

1208
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 2: even they sounded like, well, I just heard about the description,

1209
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: so that's it. Even they didn't sound like they went

1210
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: into depth like it still don't sound like a single

1211
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: person reached out to him or went out there anything.

1212
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 2: It just sounded like everybody just was like, I don't know,

1213
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 2: you sound like and maybe, like I said, if anything,

1214
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 2: it points out to me, if you're gonna be doing

1215
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: this work, you have to be sensitive to eat to

1216
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: the fact that people are very sensitive. Yes, so you

1217
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 2: can't just go But y'all know me, that's.

1218
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 4: Not that's not gonna that's not gonna cut it in.

1219
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 4: You was talking about this last night. You're talking about imagination.

1220
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 4: And the thing is, it's funny how everybody we we

1221
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 4: want something new, we want something different. People show you

1222
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 4: new and different things and niggas whose they goddamn minds.

1223
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 4: It ain't what we we we did, and that's why

1224
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 4: we get Martin Luther the King and and uh uh

1225
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 4: and like that, like we get that that checklist.

1226
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 3: It ain't white people that love that checklist. Niggas love

1227
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 3: that checklist.

1228
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 4: Too, because once you try to think outside of the box,

1229
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 4: present something different, try to do something outside of that.

1230
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 4: Unless you explain it like perfectly, it's gonna get rejected

1231
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 4: a lot of times.

1232
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: One of the things I thought was interesting too, is

1233
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 2: like he like, I want to see, uh, there's an

1234
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: opportunity here for someone else to take over. And I

1235
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: hope that is. I mean, we'll see what the city,

1236
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: what the kindy allows, but I actually hope it's someone

1237
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: that does the plantation towards more like what they have

1238
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 2: in Mississippi and stuff like I hope they have. I

1239
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 2: hope it's one that's like ain't no fucking ain't nothing

1240
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 2: here fun like like we don't, we don't. This is

1241
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 2: not gonna be a space for uh Civil War re enactments.

1242
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 2: We're not doing that, We're not. This is not a

1243
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 2: place white people's weddings. This is not for anyone's weddings.

1244
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: It's not a place for If that happens, then something

1245
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 2: great will have come of this, and I'll and I'll

1246
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 2: straight up be like two bad niggas, but you know,

1247
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 2: this is what happened to you, but something it happened

1248
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 2: and a good thing came of it. I think I'll

1249
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 2: be living if I'm here in a year and they're

1250
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 2: still doing weddings, because then it's just like it was

1251
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: nothing changed, right, And that goes back to what this

1252
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 2: dude had humors and he paid the costs for humors,

1253
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: but other than that, people just went back to night

1254
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 2: not giving a fuck, right, And.

1255
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 3: Then I'm it make me mad because it's like the

1256
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 3: fun will you protested for? Then nothing? Nothing?

1257
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: And and like what what what would have been hilarious

1258
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 2: is that it seemed to me like there were white

1259
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 2: people that, once they saw black people got mad, were

1260
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 2: like fully so importing this event, to which I'm like,

1261
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: I don't think you understand what the event was gonna be.

1262
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: You was about to take your happy white ass out there,

1263
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 2: thinking they was gonna be like in the War of

1264
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 2: Northern Aggression and you was.

1265
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 3: Gonna be know how They're like they mad, see what

1266
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 3: this is about? Dead?

1267
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 4: Right?

1268
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 2: And when they was like when this dude was ultimately

1269
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 2: the villain. What the fuck was you gonna what was

1270
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 2: you gonna say? You know what I mean, Like it's anyway.

1271
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, so we are up to date on that.

1272
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 2: Just wanted to put an update out there so the

1273
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 2: people won't write that's one hundred emails and shit, and

1274
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 2: yeah he lost it. I'm not, like I said, I'm

1275
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 2: not that upset by the loss of the contract or whatever. Cause, like,

1276
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: once I heard about they still do the weddings out there,

1277
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck the hope.

1278
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 5: Like, like I was talking to somebody about it. We

1279
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 5: was on opposite side.

1280
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 2: Of this, and I was just like, yeah, I just

1281
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: really think that he was telling the truth in that

1282
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 2: paper he wrote. I don't think he's gaslighting anybody. But

1283
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 2: then she was like, yeah, they still do weddings out there.

1284
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: I was like, oh they do. Burn it down. Fuck them,

1285
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 2: it ain't that serious, Like like he obviously ain't got

1286
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: enough control to shut that down. Then I don't care.

1287
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about other things. There's a news

1288
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 2: there's a how much coronavirus news do we have? I

1289
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 2: want to say it's not that much. Yeah, I'm on

1290
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: two things. I think I'll I wait, I'll just do

1291
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 2: it quick without playing the song. The UK is excluded

1292
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 2: from the EU's COVID Safe Travel List, but the US

1293
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,919
Speaker 2: has been added to the Safety travel list.

1294
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 3: One nigga would have got back on the safety list.

1295
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 3: We're gonna get booted right back off. But I'm glad

1296
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 3: we own it for a while.

1297
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't want nobody traveling because that

1298
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 2: that Delta variant ain't no hole.

1299
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 4: That that Delta gonna catch itself for Delta, bring his

1300
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 4: ass on over here by the plane, Like, why are

1301
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 4: we fucking with this again?

1302
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1303
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 2: They goes off the list a ship whole country, but

1304
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 2: uh yeah, but the UK, I just feel like it's

1305
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 2: just we're they're actually just ahead of the curve because

1306
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: eventually we're gonna get it too, Like eventually we're gonna

1307
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 2: have the Delta probably busting everybody's ass.

1308
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 4: People are vaccinating, tackling them one shot and unvaccinated people.

1309
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think it's gonna be getting a lot

1310
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: of people. So I don't know how long we'll be

1311
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 2: on that list. All right, let's get to other news.

1312
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart says he's not bothered by cancel culture despite

1313
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: being canceled. Quote unquote multiple times, which means, yeah, probably

1314
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: not canceled if it's been multiple times, you know, because

1315
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: seems to be canceled then anyway. But yeah, he say

1316
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 2: he personally doesn't give a ship about cancel culture during

1317
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 2: his recent interview with The Sunday Times. When we get

1318
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: to a point where life was supposed to be perfect?

1319
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 4: What?

1320
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 2: Oh? When do we get to a point where life

1321
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 2: was supposed to be perfect? Well, people were supposed to

1322
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 2: operate perfectly all the time. I don't understand. I don't

1323
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 2: expect perfection from my kids. I don't expect them from

1324
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 2: my wife, friends, employees, because last I checked, the only

1325
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 2: way you grow up is from fucked up. And I

1326
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: don't know a kid who hasn't fucked up or done

1327
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: some dumb shit.

1328
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 8: So my thing is like.

1329
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 2: He kind of been one note since twenty eighteen, since

1330
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 2: being quote unquote canceled, and I think, you know, from

1331
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 2: Afar not knowing this man, it seemed like.

1332
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 5: He was personally very affected by that.

1333
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 2: It sounds like it did hurt him. I don't think

1334
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 2: he likes that a lot of people don't like him

1335
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:52,560
Speaker 2: or see him as a good person.

1336
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 3: Because he wants to be liked by everybody.

1337
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 2: I think, deep down he does, and a lot of

1338
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 2: this shit he's been doing is kind of like being

1339
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: a rebellion of that to be like, you know, look

1340
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 2: at my next comedy station stand up special. It's about

1341
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 2: how much I don't give a fuck. It's like, because

1342
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 2: you give a fuck, you're in the whole hour. Used

1343
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: to be the guy that definitely gave a fuck, and

1344
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 2: now you're doing no fucks giving, which is about you

1345
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 2: not giving a fuck. And you did that special and

1346
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 2: what two more year? A year later, you're still talking

1347
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 2: about it like that you don't like you?

1348
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 3: Do you care?

1349
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: Man? And it says a lot too, because a lot

1350
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 2: of his real life, I bet, is completely different than

1351
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 2: the online response to him.

1352
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 5: Yes, Like, if you're Kevin Hart, you're.

1353
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 2: Very rich, you're very successful, you're very famous, you're very

1354
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 2: well liked.

1355
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 3: You keep getting work through.

1356
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 2: All this shit, you stay employed, ye dude? Yeah, And

1357
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: people in real personal life probably love him everywhere he goes.

1358
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 2: The stuff that you see online is very incongrowna with.

1359
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 3: Real life, very small people.

1360
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 2: But I think he wants to be liked by everyone,

1361
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: and nothing makes the internet feel better than being able

1362
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: to withhold that thing from you. Yes, And I think

1363
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 2: that's what he's dealing with, because why the fuck else

1364
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 2: is it still bothering you? Like, how is it still

1365
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,799
Speaker 2: bothering you? This bad? That's what I would say, everything

1366
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 2: about it. It's like the Lady Duff protest too much.

1367
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: Though he has moved on from the tobacco, the forty

1368
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 2: one year old says he will does not allow canceling

1369
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 2: to keep him down, even if he was in the wrong.

1370
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 2: If you allow it to have an effect on you,

1371
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 2: it will. Personally, That's not how I operate. During his

1372
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: cover article with Men's Health back in March, he reflected

1373
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 2: on the Oscar tobacco with the whole Oscar thing, that

1374
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 2: was a big gap between what I thought the problem

1375
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 2: was versus what the problem really was. What I thought

1376
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 2: it was, it wasn't and my approach to dealing with

1377
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 2: it because of the assumption that I had is just wrong.

1378
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 2: So wow, Anyway, I mean, good luck to him. I

1379
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: guess I'm.

1380
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 4: Allow, but he'll be fine. I got new three men

1381
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 4: in the baby. They call him something else become I think, you.

1382
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 2: Know, and deep down, like I said, not knowing this dude,

1383
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: but just my hunch, I think he know he wrong,

1384
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: But I think that that that that man shit, that ego,

1385
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 2: don't won't let him be like I was wrong. I've

1386
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 2: already apologized, which is also another thing that we know

1387
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 2: he was He know he was wrong because he had apologized.

1388
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I'm sorry. He didn't apologize, he

1389
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 2: had stopped doing it in his act, which is to me.

1390
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 2: You know how people always say like, apologies don't mean anything,

1391
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 2: change the behavior means everything. Well, he's actually living proof

1392
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 2: change of behavior. It doesn't necessarily mean everything to people

1393
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 2: because they wanted the apology as well.

1394
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 5: But he had changed his behavior because.

1395
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 2: I really do truly believe deep down that man knows

1396
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 2: I was wrong for that shit. It's not funny enough

1397
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 2: people hit me up to say, this is a real concern.

1398
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 2: You might be a good guy, you might not be

1399
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 2: a good guy. You might be joking. You may have

1400
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 2: never done to to your children, but the idea of

1401
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 2: hurting the child for being gay is not funny to

1402
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 2: a lot of people, and a real life thing that

1403
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: happens to a lot of people. So maybe don't do

1404
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 2: that on stage. And he said, all right, I'm not

1405
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 2: doing those jokes no more. And because it came back up.

1406
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 2: It's like he just said, well, fuck y'all in I

1407
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: don't even do those jokes even since then. I mean,

1408
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 2: I don't follow the stand up, but I would really

1409
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: wonder if he in his stand up has been doing

1410
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 2: anti gay jokes or if he just basically said, I'm

1411
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 2: gonna do jokes about the fact people got mad at me,

1412
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna do more jokes about picking on

1413
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: gay people because I know that that's wrong. I wonder,

1414
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 2: I just wonder.

1415
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 4: I don't know, like I said, I don't know if

1416
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 4: he's had another one, but I know he had a

1417
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 4: big special that came out right when the coronavirus hit it,

1418
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 4: right in the middle of it, and it came out

1419
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 4: like Netflix.

1420
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 3: Yes, I watched that, and no, no, no, no jokes.

1421
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 4: No. I think it was more about him and his

1422
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 4: family and his kids, him literally not giving the fuck.

1423
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 3: And I mean I quite enjoyed it, and I'm not

1424
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 3: gonna lie.

1425
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: I heard I heard good things. I mean, you know,

1426
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: it always makes reviews of him, but also because people

1427
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 2: are coming at him and say he's not funny at all,

1428
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 2: and of course he feels like he has to like

1429
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 2: he you know, shows you all the money and all

1430
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 2: the shit. But once again, that's him getting caught up

1431
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: on the internet because if you're not funny, how he's

1432
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 2: doing a little too well for just to not be funny.

1433
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 4: You know.

1434
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 2: A lot of that could be jealousy.

1435
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 5: A lot of that is just I don't like you, right,

1436
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 5: and some of us just style choice.

1437
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 2: But it's always interesting because like the difference between Heart

1438
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 2: and like say, Chappelle, is that Chappelle says, I'm against this,

1439
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 2: and I make these jokes and I don't care if

1440
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 2: you get offended, and he just keeps making the same

1441
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 2: jokes yep, and he keeps making them more and more

1442
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 2: offensive to the point where you're like, oh, this nigga

1443
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: really doesn't care, like he like he make here in

1444
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: the in the opposite way, but he don't. But he

1445
01:13:56,360 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 2: really really wants to keep offending people and and just

1446
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 2: like beat you into submission with the fact that you

1447
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: can't cancel him. Yep. Kevin Hart, I think he's sad.

1448
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 2: It's really sad because I think a lot of men

1449
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 2: are like this. I think there's more men like Kevin

1450
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 2: Hart than they are like Dave Chappelle. I agree, you know,

1451
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 2: I think there's more men who are kind of like

1452
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 2: followers and they don't want to be kicked out of

1453
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 2: or seen outside the box of masculinity. And the defiance

1454
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 2: that he presents is one of I'm a man, y'all

1455
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 2: not gonna talk to me like this, you know, Like

1456
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 2: I think that my Kevin Hart is getting better, but

1457
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 2: I think I lost it at first, but I feel

1458
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 2: like this coming back. Okay, I'll let ja L be

1459
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 2: the judge. But but but like it's a lot of like,

1460
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 2: you know, I'm a man, You're not gonna talk to

1461
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 2: me like this. I made mistakes, you know, it's all right,

1462
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 2: you know whatever, and like and and instead of being

1463
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: able to say like, I'm sorry because I'm sorry, it's

1464
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 2: like almost outside the of manhood. It's like, y'all punk me,

1465
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 2: y'all bitched me, quote unquote y'all. You know, y'all, y'all

1466
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 2: hold me down almost the terms of course, there's no

1467
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: there's no terms. That's not yeah, I mean what I'm

1468
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 2: talking about. I mean that's how it would feel.

1469
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 3: To him, because you know, the only emotions y'all do

1470
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,600
Speaker 3: is laughter and anger. You don't get anything in between that.

1471
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 2: Right, And that's how this has felt to me for

1472
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 2: a long time, because he doesn't really seem to have

1473
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 2: any intellectual argument to make. I've listened to interviews of

1474
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 2: him after this, when he went on NPR, and it's

1475
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 2: like there's no there there, there's nothing deep that he

1476
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 2: has to say about it. He just doesn't And he's

1477
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 2: getting a lot of sympathy because he's considered genuinely a

1478
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 2: nice guy, so many people that he's nice enough for

1479
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 2: people to say Kevin doesn't mean that, right, and that's

1480
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 2: just enough for people to go instead of going, Kevin

1481
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that. So when I see Kevin, I'm gonna

1482
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 2: tell him, hey, man, you shouldn't say that shit. You

1483
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 2: should probably apologize instead. They go, I know you don't

1484
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 2: mean it, so fuck those people. You're the victim, not him,

1485
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: not them, you know, as opposed to like, man, you

1486
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 2: should I know you don't mean it, So just go

1487
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 2: ahead and apologize and don't worry about it. You know,

1488
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 2: like your produde is gonna you're not gonna host the

1489
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 2: Oscars out of your pride about this, give a fuck, man,

1490
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 2: Like you're not losing nothing anything to a certain type

1491
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 2: of person, a person like me and probably a lot

1492
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 2: of people that think, like me, I would have had

1493
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 2: a lot of respect for the shit. Mm hm, cause

1494
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, what you said was fucked up. Yes,

1495
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 2: you don't do that anymore, but an acknowledgement of like, hey,

1496
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 2: I fucked up, man, you know what I'm saying. I

1497
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,759
Speaker 2: didn't mean it that way. I'm not trying to disrespect

1498
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 2: the community. But people are able to turn it into

1499
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 2: like a race thing. People are ever turn it into

1500
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 2: like other comedians get to do way worse than him

1501
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: type of thing. It turned into everything outside of just

1502
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 2: But personally, do you feel any regret or remorse about

1503
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 2: what you said?

1504
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 4: Right?

1505
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 2: Do you think do you even see why you Why

1506
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: did you stop doing those jokes? If they're so, you know,

1507
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 2: if it's so, don't matter? And you know, even he

1508
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 2: was like, didn't really have an answer for it, because

1509
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 2: I think the real answer would have been saying, because

1510
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 2: I knew them jokes was not they wasn't right no more,

1511
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 2: And I stopped.

1512
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 3: Right because nothing else would make sense. Why did you

1513
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 3: get rid of him? Then?

1514
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, like I said, it's super sad that he's

1515
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,640
Speaker 2: stuck in that same cycle, and I hope one day

1516
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 2: he gets out of it, you know, because it's kind

1517
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 2: of ridiculous at this point, like it's like nobody's talking

1518
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 2: about anything. And then he just comes up with, Hey,

1519
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 2: y'all just want to let you know. I still don't

1520
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 2: give a fuck. It's like, we just wanted to know

1521
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 2: how your new movie was. I don't give a fuck.

1522
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 3: You can't.

1523
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 2: I don't care about being canceled. I mean I always

1524
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 2: get canceled. You can't stop me, Like Kevin, we just

1525
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 2: how did.

1526
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 3: We get here? Yeah, because I'm thinking I'm thinking who

1527
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 3: asked him that?

1528
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 4: Like you say, he has a bunch of new shit

1529
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,600
Speaker 4: coming out, and they probably asking him about that.

1530
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 3: And he's like, I gotta be sure they know.

1531
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 2: Don't you have a movie coming out Friday?

1532
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 3: You can't cancel me?

1533
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 2: All right?

1534
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 3: Damn Kevin, see y'all in theaters on Friday.

1535
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 2: Extra extra, Let's see what else is happening? Secret recordings,

1536
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 2: leaked letters, explosive secrets rock the Southern Baptist Convention.

1537
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 3: Oh shit, what's happening?

1538
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 2: Demands for political loyalty, disputes about racism, a fight between

1539
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,759
Speaker 2: conservatives and ultra conservatives. It sounds like current the basis

1540
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 2: in the Republican Party. But it's actually the annual meaning

1541
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 2: of the Southern Baptist Convention, where thousands gather Tuesday to

1542
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 2: vote on issues that will shape the massive denomination's future.

1543
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 2: It's so weird that that's church mm hmm, because that

1544
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: feels almost like a political party or business like it's

1545
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 2: the annual shareholders meeting, I mean Southern Baptist Convention.

1546
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 5: What will we be doing there deciding how we vote

1547
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 5: on the issues?

1548
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 3: You mean, like a democracy, y'all got representatives.

1549
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 2: It's like, now, how do we feel about in the

1550
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 2: state death tax, the heir inage tax? How do we

1551
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 2: feel about that?

1552
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 4: Like?

1553
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 2: What does that have to do with Jesus? Spell? You know,

1554
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff between Jesus that we got

1555
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 2: to do, got to do with Jesus. More than sixteen

1556
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 2: thousand people are expected to attend the dominations in your meeting. Ah,

1557
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 2: but what's especially unusual about the meeting is the infighting

1558
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 2: at the highest levels of leadership that has become public

1559
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 2: in the recent weeks. Mm. The tea the wine is feeling.

1560
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 3: The unsweet tea got turned over.

1561
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,839
Speaker 2: The great juice is finning, is feeling.

1562
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 4: Somebody knocked their body or Christ out the table, y'all

1563
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 4: might want to clean them up.

1564
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 5: Whoa this bitch is shaken?

1565
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 3: The last supper table, Yes, the last supper table.

1566
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 2: Russell Moore, who previously led to Southern Baptist Convention's public

1567
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 2: policy arm, recently left his position and his church for

1568
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: a new position at Christian to Day magazine on his

1569
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 2: way out of the two cent letters sent. Two letters

1570
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 2: he sent to SBC leadership were leaked to the media,

1571
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 2: and it described a cultural of racism and mishandling of

1572
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 2: sexual abuse claims. Since his letters was lead, several leaders

1573
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 2: call for third party investigation and the how leadership has

1574
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 2: responded to this, your sexual abuse within the churches? Yeah,

1575
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: I think they tabled that too. I think they decided

1576
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 2: like to extend that or some shit. The Washington Post

1577
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 2: interview dozens of employees, a dozen employees and as well.

1578
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 5: As five pastors. All of them said they could not

1579
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 5: speak openly.

1580
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 3: You mean, like Jesus did.

1581
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 7: Hm?

1582
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 4: You mean.

1583
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:38,600
Speaker 2: You got to do it behind closes. What kind of

1584
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 2: religious is to this? Ain't the Catholic religion in it?

1585
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 3: SBC? This is ain't no cult. What's happening here?

1586
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 2: SBC is full of and that's why one listen. One

1587
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 2: reason I don't like when people say atheism is its

1588
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 2: own religion. It's like, okay, but you do know, we

1589
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 2: don't have any meetings where we get to like, uh,

1590
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: cover up sexual abuse within the that's not an age

1591
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 2: within the community. Like that's a that seemed to be

1592
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 2: a church thing. Can you leave us out of that one?

1593
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 2: They ain't really got nothing to do with us Like

1594
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 2: this it's the same. It's like, it's not the same.

1595
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 2: You believe in nothing, believing in nothing but not having

1596
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,759
Speaker 2: an organization to cover up a bunch of mild seasons

1597
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 2: and influence political power. Not that it's not close to

1598
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 2: the same. You wish atheists were the same. Uh, The

1599
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 2: SBC is full of highly influential passes and Bible teachers.

1600
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

1601
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,679
Speaker 5: One black pastor has decided to share.

1602
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 2: His removal earlier this year from his job as director

1603
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: Information Technology. Taz Andrews, who also served as SBC pastor

1604
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,719
Speaker 2: in Atlanta's, said that in March he polished a Facebook

1605
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: post about one of the candidates running for SBC president,

1606
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 2: Mike Stone, who's spoken a podcast against critical race theory

1607
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: and intellectual framework used to examine systemic races in the

1608
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 2: United States. Na MB, which poured one hundred and third

1609
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 2: million dollars in the SBC churches in twenty twenty, is

1610
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 2: a powerful force within the Convention because it decides how

1611
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,560
Speaker 2: to distribute money to things such as relief efforts and

1612
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 2: church planners, generally with the expectation that recipients will remain

1613
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 2: Southern Baptists. On the podcast posted in March, Stone compared

1614
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 2: people who use CRT as a framework to Catholics, Methodists,

1615
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: and Pentecostals Christians with whom Baptists have major theological differences

1616
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 2: who cannot be in the SBC. So it was like

1617
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 2: he basically like, if you preach critical race there, you

1618
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 2: might as well be a Catholic, a Methodist, or a Pentecostal,

1619
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 2: which apparently is insults.

1620
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 4: Apparently it is, which I don't know. Yeah, because there

1621
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:42,719
Speaker 4: used to be one group. Then all of a sudden,

1622
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 4: we agree about this. Nope, we don't agree about this,

1623
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 4: and everybody stopped breaking off into their own subsections.

1624
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 2: It's weird because on the outside looking in, I'm like,

1625
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 2: I thought y'all were pretty much all the same. I

1626
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 2: didn't realize, like, what is the beef. Don't y'all all like,

1627
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 2: what's what's the difference in the beliefs? Really? You know

1628
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 2: what I mean? Because it's like it be little differences,

1629
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 2: like we believe the Holy Ghost is a spirit? Yeah, yeah,

1630
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: the other you know, like like it he little shit

1631
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 2: and then it'd be like nigga fuck you. Then you

1632
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 2: know what. I'm like, Uh, what what you said?

1633
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:17,759
Speaker 3: By my Jesus?

1634
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 2: So what what It's like? It's like I just pictured

1635
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 2: them all in the same church when it first started,

1636
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,799
Speaker 2: and there's like, all right, and now for a selection

1637
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 2: from the choir, go ahead, this little light up mine.

1638
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 2: It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa?

1639
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 3: Where did the drummer guitars come from? Where lugging?

1640
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 5: Are y'all clapping and dancing?

1641
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 3: Who bought this keyboard in here? Don't plug it?

1642
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 2: I'm starting my own church, y'all. Y'all going to hell.

1643
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 2: Y'all are going to hell.

1644
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 3: Off the tambourines we are with?

1645
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 5: What's merriment?

1646
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 4: Y'all didn't tell me that I had to read from

1647
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 4: him number one thirty five.

1648
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna have it.

1649
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 3: We out all the Calvinists.

1650
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 2: Y'all come with me? Is me mister Calvin, I'm mad,

1651
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,799
Speaker 2: and I'm out and leaving. We burning witches and everything

1652
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 2: we're doing, we're wild on you out.

1653
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 4: What you mean to tell me that Jesus head was

1654
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 4: warmed up?

1655
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 2: I just feel like that was like this woman is

1656
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 2: a witch. Well, I say we burned at the steak.

1657
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 2: I say we drown her.

1658
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 5: What the fuck drowned?

1659
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: Burning the steak? That's it, bitch, you Pentecostal. Right, fuck

1660
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 2: out of my Get the fuck out of my chair.

1661
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 3: And then you have somebody else say, what would Jesus doing?

1662
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 3: Both of them groups tying on them?

1663
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 2: Right, you get the fuck out too. We ain't about

1664
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 2: no peace anyway. I didn't even realize you get insult

1665
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 2: somebody like that. Now, I gotta be careful, right, it's

1666
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 2: like all my Baptists all, I thought he was a

1667
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 2: Pentecostal nigga?

1668
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 3: What you call me?

1669
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I didn't. I just thought that was a

1670
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 2: They put the Bible down, you gotta hit me with it.

1671
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 3: They look around, they say, y'all know we ain't like them.

1672
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 5: Fammy science right, Well, I think that that actually does happen. Yeah, yeah,

1673
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 5: am design is black, so I know, yeah that.

1674
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 3: That's a completely broke off part. They do have a

1675
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 3: black version and that and that's separate from the white version.

1676
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that design I think is mostly it's just black people.

1677
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 2: So I get why people say that that one was

1678
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 2: not about religion, that's about race. But I mean the

1679
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: shit where it's like Catholics versus Methodists versus Pentecostals, that's

1680
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 2: that's weird to me. I'm sorry. Like it's like if

1681
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 2: you so, if you go to a town and they

1682
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 2: only got a Methodist church with you a Pentecostal, you

1683
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 2: just like, I guess I don't go to church here.

1684
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 3: I guess now we're gonna be zooming it up.

1685
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's man anyway, Like how can you tell you?

1686
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 2: You know, let me stop. It's like these niggas is

1687
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 2: passing around the So you don't go up to the front,

1688
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 2: kneel beneath before the priests and have him put the

1689
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 2: ship in your mouth.

1690
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 3: That no, some people do it in Unison. That it's

1691
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 3: all over the place, Like can you.

1692
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 2: Taste the cracker and be like this ship is unconsecrated.

1693
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 2: I'm kidding out of here.

1694
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 3: This is not the body of Jesus nah.

1695
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all the body that you, but they

1696
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 2: just taste it salt. Is this a Baptist church? Is

1697
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 2: this paprika? Is this welter is great? Don't you give

1698
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 2: me no?

1699
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 3: Welter is great?

1700
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 2: Honestly, man, I feel.

1701
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 5: Like to be down with the Black Baptist anyway, Like

1702
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 5: you come up in there.

1703
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 2: I smell fried chicken? Are we having chicken after this?

1704
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 3: And green bean?

1705
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 2: Well? Shoot, you know what I'm I'm gonna be in

1706
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 2: here clapping on the ones and threes, sucking everything up.

1707
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 2: They definitely don't got that at the White church. No, No,

1708
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 2: they don't get out in time enough to go to

1709
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 2: go to corral. But I'm saying, come on at the

1710
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 2: Black church.

1711
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

1712
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 2: Don't tell them. Don't tell them, y'all, they're gonna start coming. Uh,

1713
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 2: they gonna come in there and jeans.

1714
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 3: And and you know how black fools niggas get offended you.

1715
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 3: How dare you walk in the house of guy with

1716
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 3: sniggers and jeans on you?

1717
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 2: That's how you knew that Bonnie argument was in bad faith,

1718
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 2: Cause niggas do give about people dressing up.

1719
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 4: Now they tell you to come as you are, But dad,

1720
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 4: they don't mean it at all, no, you let my

1721
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 4: mama catch you coming in there without a slip, without

1722
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 4: a bra, without stockings, without girl.

1723
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 3: And shit, lose her mind?

1724
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, shit all, Oh, they don't look at her like

1725
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: she coming from the club.

1726
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 3: Look at her, look at her ass jiggling because she

1727
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,959
Speaker 3: ain't got no girl. Wrong, Mama, I can't.

1728
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 2: Breath wearing that body con dress with in fine.

1729
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,560
Speaker 4: They gonna have Jesus made it in this good, so

1730
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 4: they gonna have to see all the jiggling because I

1731
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 4: refuse to wear stockers in a thousand degree heat and

1732
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 4: I'm not wearing no slip.

1733
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 5: Karen just went back to her own childhood that, yes

1734
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 5: I did.

1735
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, y'all. I'm sorry.

1736
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 2: That was some PTSD.

1737
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 3: Well it was church pt y'all got to forgive me.

1738
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:58,719
Speaker 3: Forgive me, y'all. I started getting mad all over again forgetting.

1739
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 2: I'm grown and I can chew was now you don't

1740
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 2: even have to go to the church.

1741
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 3: And I don't even earn.

1742
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 2: I don't even know one's trying to make you go, Karon,

1743
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 2: I don't even know what it is from.

1744
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 4: They're not they're not, they're not youll. I'm sorry, nobody

1745
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 4: forceing me. I don't even think I own the girl

1746
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 4: and I've bront them bitches.

1747
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 3: That was the fuck that.

1748
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 5: I think everybody should go to church in their bondies.

1749
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 2: And then let's see how let's see how representative black

1750
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 2: Twitter is versus black offline people. Is black women should

1751
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 2: go to church and they bondis this Sunday, and let's

1752
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 2: just see. Let's just see. Let's see if they more

1753
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 2: like Monique or if they more like you know the

1754
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 2: rest of us.

1755
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 4: And if you see a black woman in her bonnet,

1756
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 4: she's been in the back frying the chicken and prepaying

1757
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 4: the food because she don't want her head to get

1758
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 4: in your food.

1759
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 3: That's about the only person that's probably not.

1760
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: A bond that's a plastic cafeteria cap. Yes, anyway, we

1761
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 2: got totally that's what we do. I forgot what was happening.

1762
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 3: But we were talking about them people division and yeah

1763
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 3: they racis.

1764
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah they're racist at the Southern Baptist Convention and uh

1765
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 2: they be fucking people in hiding and covering up. Uh So, anyway,

1766
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: and that's been our religious segment.

1767
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 3: That's that's about the most action you're gonna get over here.

1768
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 2: Alabama is among the worst stations in the US for

1769
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 2: chalmydia and gonnerriea ooh you wonder why wait, what does

1770
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 2: that mean?

1771
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 3: Her Alabama?

1772
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 4: What they like the Republicans, Daddy're like, Oh yeah, fucking abortion,

1773
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:33,600
Speaker 4: fucking free condom, fuck contraceptive. No, we're not paying for shit. No,

1774
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 4: we want everybody to come back to work. Coronavirus. We

1775
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 4: didn't do shit for coronavirus.

1776
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 3: We've been open, bitch, come on back.

1777
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm like when I read this OS, it's like

1778
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 2: coronavirus here to state because we can't get rid of shit.

1779
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 2: We do have treatments for chlamydia, gnaria and syphilists. What

1780
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 2: the jury's not out on those vaccines in medicuits, Like

1781
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 2: like if you hesitant to Troto's come on now.

1782
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 4: And the thing is a lot of people there, this

1783
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 4: is these are some of the poorest parts of the country.

1784
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 4: A lot of these counties and ours are you can't

1785
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 4: afford to go get your like normal permitative care. So

1786
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 4: something that they would have caught, they're not catching it.

1787
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 4: That if people can afford to go to the hospital,

1788
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 4: or they go once it's so bad, then sometimes it

1789
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:19,600
Speaker 4: might be irreversible.

1790
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 2: Well, what's wild is that they're not the number one

1791
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,560
Speaker 2: state in any of them. Oh, it's the culmination of

1792
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 2: being the top.

1793
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 3: Like, what is it.

1794
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 2: They're the eighth for chlamydia, they're third for god Rhea,

1795
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 2: and they're twelve for Syphilists. Wait, they're fifteenth for syphilists.

1796
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 2: So when you add all three of them up, they're

1797
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 2: the number one as far as.

1798
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 3: Being on all the posed.

1799
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, but if you break it down to

1800
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 2: like ranking it by percentage of the population, Alaska's number one.

1801
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,799
Speaker 3: Why well, there's probably the smallest pop lated state.

1802
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 2: Six two hundred and fifty four cases eight hundred, eight

1803
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 2: hundred and forty eight point one. I guess, so I

1804
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:10,560
Speaker 2: don't know per for their whole population. I don't know

1805
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 2: if that's like a million or one hundred thousand or whatever.

1806
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:17,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is that's wild. So like, yeah, Alaska's

1807
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:22,600
Speaker 2: number one. What number you think North Carolina is for uh, chlamydia?

1808
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1809
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 4: We probably might be up there too, because Republicans run

1810
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 4: everything and they won't strip everything down to about the

1811
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 4: fifteenth twenty six.

1812
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 3: Ah, I about to say we probably pretty high.

1813
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 4: So we mean you pretty much lucked out, you know,

1814
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 4: my niggah, something happened to you. It's gonna be me,

1815
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 4: myself and I and all the sex storys.

1816
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,919
Speaker 3: Fuck that. Keep your dirty dickty yourself.

1817
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 4: Uh.

1818
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 2: Gon Aria, Mississippi's number one in Gonorria, Alaska, number two

1819
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 2: North Carolina, for gotten, real, where do you think we're at?

1820
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 3: It might be high? No, no, no, no, no, ten?

1821
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 5: Eight you were close, Yeah we're eight.

1822
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 2: And then for secondary, primary and secondary syphilis. Nevada's number one,

1823
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 2: you were thinking about it be high. Well, then again,

1824
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 2: I guess people probably well, actually, no, no, that actually

1825
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 2: makes no sense what I was about to say. Fuck everything.

1826
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 4: I just said, yeah, because they have like brothers and yeah,

1827
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 4: that would actually be more regulated.

1828
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 5: So I'm actually surprised that.

1829
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's probably just and plus also people you

1830
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 2: can visit a brothels and not live there. So that

1831
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,839
Speaker 2: nothing I said made sense in my This is y'all's

1832
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 2: internal view into my brain. Nothing. Everything I said when

1833
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 2: I was about to make that point thought it made sense,

1834
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 2: and before it made it to my mouth, my brain

1835
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 2: was like, no, none of that made sense, and I

1836
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 2: just wanted to hip y'all to what my thought process was.

1837
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 2: Nevada's number one New Mexico's number two. Where do you

1838
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 2: think North Carolina is on the sick syphilis map? Oh?

1839
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 3: Up there too.

1840
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go fifteen, eighteen, really close, carry man, you

1841
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 7: kneeling this and the last I think the last one

1842
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 7: is congenital syphilis.

1843
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:21,679
Speaker 3: What's the difference?

1844
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 2: Well, the first primary secondary syphilis.

1845
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:26,759
Speaker 3: Oh, syphilis got levels number one, number two.

1846
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 2: Texas is different Texas number one and congenital syphilis, and

1847
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 2: the Vada is number four. So I don't know what

1848
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 2: the main difference is. It's not there's a lot less cases,

1849
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 2: it seems, and this is like per capita, I guess.

1850
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 2: But Texas number one, Where do you think North Carolina

1851
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:47,640
Speaker 2: is in congenital syphilis?

1852
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 3: It sounds very contagious.

1853
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:58,600
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm gonna go eight We are nineteenth, Okay, so

1854
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 2: we're eighteenth, and the last one now in nineteen. In

1855
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:07,759
Speaker 2: that one, so and this is congenital syphilis? Is sibilist

1856
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 2: that is acquired by the fetus in the uterus before birth.

1857
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 4: Oh, that passed from the mother to the child. Okay,

1858
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 4: because that was like there got to be a difference

1859
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:19,560
Speaker 4: for them to call it that. Okay, wow wow, So

1860
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 4: children literally are born with it.

1861
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 2: I guess so woa Rito Marino respond to In the

1862
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:32,600
Speaker 2: Heights criticism, you can never do right, it seems, she says.

1863
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 3: Oh no maybe, no, no, no, no, no, just be quiet,

1864
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 3: just be quiet.

1865
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 4: I don't I don't say people understand saying nothing is

1866
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 4: always an option because a lot of times they don't

1867
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 4: even ask people about this. They volunteered this information. I

1868
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 4: don't know if she was asked specifically, but they volunteer

1869
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 4: this information, and you're.

1870
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 3: Like, nobody asks this though she was asked about it.

1871
01:34:55,280 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 4: Okay, right now, stupid, this is absolutely ridiculous.

1872
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 3: Yet get out of here. We are a dope and

1873
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:10,480
Speaker 3: this is ridiculous.

1874
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 4: Keep the crap because I think a lot of people

1875
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 4: respond like this out of fear, because everybody is afraid

1876
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 4: now that they're gonna get counseled by social media.

1877
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 3: So everybody responds out of.

1878
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 4: Fear, like if y'all come at me, you know, I

1879
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 4: don't want to fuck up, so you know, you know,

1880
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 4: so a lot of times pople respond like this.

1881
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 3: A lot of times it's out of fear. Yeah, It's

1882
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 3: like she's which is a valid, you know, fear for them,

1883
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 3: But well, do you.

1884
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 2: Want to hear the clip before you, Uh, have you

1885
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 2: heard it already or song?

1886
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 4: No?

1887
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 2: Okay uh? And she's white passes like you know, light

1888
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 2: light skinned, light skinned, latinix or like Latin up woman.

1889
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 3: Okay.

1890
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 8: Can we try for a second about that criticism about

1891
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 8: lyn Manuel that really upsets me?

1892
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, for the people who don't people who don't

1893
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 9: know your your friend and ours living man weman Aroanda

1894
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:00,879
Speaker 9: Social he also.

1895
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 5: Co produced, so you know what, take it back?

1896
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:04,600
Speaker 3: You did bring it up.

1897
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say a lot of times when people do

1898
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 4: these fucked up things, nobody asked them.

1899
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:09,679
Speaker 3: They like, let me tell you my opinions.

1900
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 2: Like the original clip I saw was of the part

1901
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 2: where he started going, let me tell you about it,

1902
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 2: So I didn't realize she literally don't go like they

1903
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 2: was talking about some other ship.

1904
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 3: And she was like like sometimes they do ask them. Yeah,

1905
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:24,639
Speaker 3: but a lot of times.

1906
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 2: This time you one hundred percent called that. That's my bad.

1907
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 2: I was wrong. Trying to get it to replay now,

1908
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to play.

1909
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 3: She bought it up because she had something to say.

1910
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 3: She thought she was gonna be right.

1911
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 5: She thought about that thing and didn't she right.

1912
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 8: W tr for a second about that criticism about Lynn

1913
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 8: Manuel that really upsets me.

1914
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, people who people who don't know your your

1915
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 9: friend and ours li Manuel Miranda.

1916
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 3: He also co.

1917
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 8: Produced my my documentary.

1918
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, she.

1919
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 2: Also old enough to probably not give a fuck that

1920
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 2: they gonna be mad about this on the internet.

1921
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 3: I agree, But I.

1922
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 2: Can see a full blown, like Sharon Osborne style meltdown

1923
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:11,680
Speaker 2: coming soon, like like we just like to like I

1924
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 2: don't know, a week away.

1925
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:19,880
Speaker 3: From the turn around and say I'm racist? What's going

1926
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 3: to do with me? I'm okay, how can I be

1927
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 3: racist about anybody? How can I be racist about anybody

1928
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 3: or anything in my life?

1929
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 2: Like we're we're about to hit that.

1930
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 9: Afro Latino people in in the Heights, the movie adaptation.

1931
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 3: Of his whatever You Can Never Do Right.

1932
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 8: It seems this is the man who literally has brote

1933
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 8: Latino this and Puerto ricanness to America.

1934
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 3: I couldn't do it.

1935
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 2: I mean I would love to.

1936
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 3: Say you did, but I couldn't.

1937
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 2: What's the makeup of that audience is clapping.

1938
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 8: Has done that really single handedly, And I'm real to

1939
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 8: pieces and I'm proud that he produced my documentary, And

1940
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:08,799
Speaker 8: so are.

1941
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,799
Speaker 9: You saying that while you may understand where people's concerns

1942
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 9: come from the preps. It's misplaced and criticizing.

1943
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 2: Him in this That is a boy that he tried

1944
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 2: to open the emergency exit door for her to be like, yeah,

1945
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 2: I'm just saying like maybe the industry or Hollywood, but yeah,

1946
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 2: she was like, no, close the emergency door. I'm staying

1947
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 2: on the plane.

1948
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 3: Fuck that, honey.

1949
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 4: He was giving her a passchooting, and she was like

1950
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 4: she was, she took that pass shooting, throw it out

1951
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 4: the window.

1952
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:37,680
Speaker 2: He's like, here's a life raft. She was like, I'm

1953
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 2: going down with this shift. Keep playing.

1954
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 3: No, I'm a punch hole in this raft.

1955
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard they got all to

1956
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 2: eat all you could eat shrimp on this ship. I'm

1957
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 2: going down with thee.

1958
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 3: With the buffet in the in the uh in the

1959
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 3: the guitar player, he's saying.

1960
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 8: Can't you just wait a while and leave it alone.

1961
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 3: There's a lot oh.

1962
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 2: Oh not the khall just wait a while and leave

1963
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 2: it alone.

1964
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 8: They're saying, can't you just wait a while and leave

1965
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:09,520
Speaker 8: it alone. There's a lot of people who are Puerto Ricano,

1966
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 8: who are also from Guatemala, who are dark and who

1967
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 8: are also fair. We are all colors in Puerto Rico,

1968
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 8: and this is how it is. And I just it

1969
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,560
Speaker 8: would be so nice if they hadn't come up with

1970
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:24,760
Speaker 8: that and left it alone just for not if they

1971
01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 8: not us, not we they Oh, I mean they're really

1972
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 8: they're really attacking the wrong person.

1973
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 2: Well, now they're probably gonna be attacking her. I don't

1974
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 2: know her online life is like, but oh, I can't

1975
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 2: think of a much worse answer than that.

1976
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, she came in and set the building on fire. Yeah,

1977
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:49,600
Speaker 3: like it. Because the way she was talking was like

1978
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 3: she was separate. She wasn't part of the group, even

1979
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 3: though she's claim she is.

1980
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, But the way you were

1981
01:39:55,520 --> 01:40:00,760
Speaker 4: talking is almost like a separation. And and it was

1982
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 4: one of those things to where she wanted to defend him.

1983
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 4: And I can understand that because she was like, basically

1984
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 4: he helped me, blah blah blah blah blah. But even

1985
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 4: Stephen was trying to kind of coax her and to

1986
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 4: be like, hey, you know, I understand, but isn't it

1987
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 4: more industry.

1988
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 3: Thing, which is very valid, she was like Nope. She

1989
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:25,640
Speaker 3: was like, they're not the problem. The problem. Basically the

1990
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 3: people complaining.

1991
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 2: Oh, you know what's crazy? She so she does have Twitter? Okay,

1992
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 2: because I was thinking, like, this is the kind of

1993
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 2: shit you say, Well, you old and you ain't got

1994
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:36,680
Speaker 2: no Twitter, and you just be like these niggas like

1995
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 2: to find me in they don't like what I said,

1996
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:40,600
Speaker 2: Come find me in person and tell me to my

1997
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 2: face because I'll never see it.

1998
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 5: But nah, that's that she actually does have it.

1999
01:40:47,080 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 2: And we have some breaking news. Okay, breaking news, breaking news.

2000
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 2: This is just in as of dateline thirteen minutes ago.

2001
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:17,800
Speaker 2: Oh shit, she tweeted, I'm incredibly disappointed with myself while

2002
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 2: making a statement in defense of lynd Manuel Miranda on

2003
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:23,560
Speaker 2: The Kobell Show last night, I was clearly dismissive of

2004
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 2: black lives that matter in our Latin community. It's so

2005
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 2: easy to forget how celebration for some is a lament

2006
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 2: for others. In addition to a plotting land for his

2007
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 2: wonderful movie version of in Nice, let me add my

2008
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 2: appreciation for a sensitivity and resolve to be more inclusive

2009
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 2: of the Afro Latino community going forward. See you can

2010
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 2: teach this old dog new tricks. Reader. Yeah, obviously it's Twitter.

2011
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 2: I don't expect the apologyic except but that's not the point.

2012
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 2: The point to the point is, uh, she knew she

2013
01:41:58,200 --> 01:41:58,680
Speaker 2: fucked up.

2014
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 4: Yes, some as soon as she got off stage or

2015
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,639
Speaker 4: got home or left or somebody seen that livest somebody

2016
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 4: got ahold of her and with she.

2017
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:08,719
Speaker 3: And West Side Story.

2018
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they get ready to do Somebody saying this

2019
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 4: a documentary. Yeah, they get ready to like that's what

2020
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 4: she was there to promote. Yes, okay, that what she was.

2021
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 3: Somebody, somebody she came, someone was like, we do not

2022
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 3: want people protesting the ship that you were about to

2023
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 3: put out right.

2024
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 2: Somebody, well, ma'am, ma'am, what are you doing?

2025
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 3: Like we can't do this? And like I said, you

2026
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 3: talking about your ship.

2027
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,640
Speaker 4: You could have kept this opinion to yourself and the

2028
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:38,680
Speaker 4: people you were already talking to about it.

2029
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 3: But she was like, oh, why we're here, let's talk Stephen.

2030
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:44,960
Speaker 3: I don't even think that was on his docket to

2031
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 3: talk about it, even.

2032
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 2: If probably you might have felt they was too hard

2033
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 2: on him, because that's possible.

2034
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to write it completely. You know that

2035
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:54,560
Speaker 5: shit is very anecdotal.

2036
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 2: It depends on what what criticisms you saw, especially when

2037
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 2: you come to social media, everyone sees something different, so

2038
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 2: you may have seen people being disrespectful blah blah. And

2039
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 2: my thing is you never cake for someone who's already apologized.

2040
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 2: Never oh that lesson so long ago, it was like,

2041
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 2: I ain't like if that nigga say you sorry, then

2042
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:20,800
Speaker 2: I don't got nothing to say ship when someone says

2043
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I learned from this, I'm gonna be better,

2044
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 2: and then you come behind them like fuck y'all. He

2045
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 2: shouldn't I had to do that, Like that's crazy. You

2046
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 2: say you sorry, you sorry, that's it. I ain't got

2047
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 2: nothing more fighting. Even if I thought you were right, right,

2048
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 2: I have no more dog in the fight. You say

2049
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 2: you wrong, then I'm gonna just take your opinion for it.

2050
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 2: Said you're wrong.

2051
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. Other people say bitch, no, fuck up my money too.

2052
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 4: Because this is not a youth and this was a

2053
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 4: you project. They would let you sink. But for the

2054
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:49,680
Speaker 4: fact that you have other actors that are attached to

2055
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 4: this and they like you. For some of them, that

2056
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:53,680
Speaker 4: was like, nigga, no, ain't nobody looking for me in

2057
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 4: thirty five years.

2058
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 3: Shut up.

2059
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 5: And it's also that thing where you just feel bad

2060
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 5: that he had to feel.

2061
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 4: Bad, right, right, And that's understandable. But it's one of

2062
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 4: those things where that was not the time nor the place.

2063
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 2: But my point being like, there's no real accountability there.

2064
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 2: You just felt bad that your friend felt bad, right,

2065
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 2: there's no actual Like it's a difference between going I

2066
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 2: don't think they did something, which is you know, I'm

2067
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 2: not saying you should always say that, but even with that,

2068
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:21,479
Speaker 2: it's like you said, if someone was saying, does colorism

2069
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 2: in this movie and you say I disagree? I mean,

2070
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 2: I look, I don't agree with you, but you can

2071
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 2: go what she disagrees. That's different than come on, man,

2072
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 2: can't y'all just wait?

2073
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:34,679
Speaker 3: Like yeah, that is, let us get.

2074
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 2: Ours first, and let us get the big piece of chicken,

2075
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 2: and then y'all get the little piece of chicken. Damn,

2076
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 2: it's gonna trickle down. The colorism is gonna trickle down,

2077
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:48,480
Speaker 2: Like just stop, what are you doing? I know people

2078
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 2: is waiting on the sidelne.

2079
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 3: She got off stage. They was like, no, ma'am, you're

2080
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:55,840
Speaker 3: gonna have to apologize, ma'am.

2081
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 5: Right, Oh my goodness, I bet you.

2082
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:00,040
Speaker 3: Somebody was pouted behind the scenes, going.

2083
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:06,680
Speaker 2: Oh no, right, oh my goodness. Anyway, good luck, good

2084
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 2: luck to you, because they gonna I know they're gonna

2085
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 2: be in her man chins. That's wold.

2086
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 5: Thirteen minutes ago, we just covered the story is from

2087
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:13,599
Speaker 5: last night.

2088
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 4: She was like, actually, all my bad, I actually got

2089
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 4: something to say. I was like, I was a lot

2090
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 4: of last line.

2091
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 2: I might add that to my whenever I do my

2092
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 2: faux apology. Ah see, you can teach this old dog

2093
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 2: new tricks. Rita. I'm out like I can't. I would

2094
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:32,960
Speaker 2: love to do that. Yes, like Rod, you said some

2095
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 2: horrible things. Well see, you can teach this old dog

2096
01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 2: new tricks. Sorry about that, everybody, It's like, well, no,

2097
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:45,640
Speaker 2: Nigga is not a joke. We mad, Oh you think so.

2098
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 2: But I learned my lesson. Yes I did.

2099
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 3: In DDI, Yes I did. I learned it.

2100
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 2: We're horribly offended by what you said. I bet you were,

2101
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 2: but so glad I cleared that up. Anyway, moving on,

2102
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 2: we're not ready to move on, moving on, as I said,

2103
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:07,639
Speaker 2: as I said, you see, you have taught this old

2104
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 2: dog new tricks.

2105
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 3: So so I'm gonna take my new tricks and go

2106
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 3: away over here, and I'm a business.

2107
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that feels like a period on the sentence when

2108
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 2: you say that, you know when you add that old

2109
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:21,679
Speaker 2: dog new tricks, like that's that that's very much aike

2110
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 2: and wrapping up old dogs new tricks. You caught us.

2111
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:29,639
Speaker 2: Everyone should do that when they get caught us some ship.

2112
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 2: Now like, wow, we caught this person saying the N

2113
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:33,840
Speaker 2: word old dog new tricks.

2114
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 3: Question mark.

2115
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:39,919
Speaker 2: Oh damn, you got us, You got me forgiven?

2116
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 3: Yes, forgiven?

2117
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 5: All right, all right, let's get let's do some funk.

2118
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 2: I mean what I was gonna say, some guess the

2119
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 2: race and then we'll wrap this up. Okay, let me

2120
01:46:53,280 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 2: get some guess the race music, right, the right, the right,

2121
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:27,240
Speaker 2: the right, Guess the race. You either know what we're

2122
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 2: playing or you don't. Let's get to it, right. A

2123
01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 2: woman who poured a mix of boiling water and sugar

2124
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 2: over her husband and the act of vengeance after a

2125
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 2: family fight, has been found guilty of his murder.

2126
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 3: Oh no.

2127
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 2: Corina Smith fifty nine attacked eighty one year old Michael

2128
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:47,719
Speaker 2: Baines while he was in bed in their home July fourteenth,

2129
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. He suffered extensive burns and died five weeks

2130
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 2: later in the hospital. Ooh, that sound like exclusat.

2131
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:58,680
Speaker 3: Oh, what kind of griss does she get? Did she did?

2132
01:47:58,760 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 4: She?

2133
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 3: Did she get the good gris? She got the harmony grits?

2134
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 3: What kind of grits did she get?

2135
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 5: They said there was sugar water.

2136
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 3: Oh, with sugar water went grits.

2137
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 5: No, I mean sugar and grits.

2138
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 2: What kind of care? She's a murderer. She's not. She's not.

2139
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:13,600
Speaker 2: She's not a demon, she's not.

2140
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,080
Speaker 3: I thought she was preparing grits and was like, take this.

2141
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 2: That's no, she's she did not murdering her husband of

2142
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:24,759
Speaker 2: thirty eight years, but she was found guilty by a jerry.

2143
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:27,639
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean nigga that got sugar water?

2144
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 2: I mean I guess he, I mean did burnt his

2145
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 2: skin off and must have stuck. Oh, must have been

2146
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 2: sitting in there thinking shit was sweet.

2147
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:45,880
Speaker 3: Probably. I can't imagine you're waking up going what what

2148
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 3: do I smell like? Candy?

2149
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 4: She was.

2150
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 2: She was just boiling, boiling mad. She said she was

2151
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 2: also her her husband's care uh dad. She had been

2152
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:05,679
Speaker 2: involved in a dispute with him and another family member

2153
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 2: prior to the killing. Shortly after midnight, she took a

2154
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:10,760
Speaker 2: bucket from her garden bought up two kettles of water,

2155
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:12,719
Speaker 2: mixed the water with three bags of sugar.

2156
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:15,080
Speaker 3: Three bags? How could you?

2157
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 2: God damn, how could she possibly say she didn't kill

2158
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 2: him unless she's not a murderer.

2159
01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 3: Did that ship glaze on him? Like sebmit? God damn?

2160
01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 2: Now son came.

2161
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 4: Yes.

2162
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 3: I mean she literally made syrup, she made icing. God damn,

2163
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 3: three bags of sugar.

2164
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 2: We are going to hell.

2165
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:35,680
Speaker 3: She made that ship like niggas makee kool aid. You've

2166
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 3: been like, god damn, this is too sweet.

2167
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 4: You know.

2168
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 2: The irony of this is that's the same ingredients to

2169
01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 2: Wendy's icedy. Wow, it's three bags of sugar for two

2170
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,599
Speaker 2: buckets of water. Auntie who knows?

2171
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 3: She may have previous to work there.

2172
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 2: She used her Wendy's training. She was She was previously

2173
01:49:57,160 --> 01:50:00,040
Speaker 2: known as Corina Bains. She then poured the liquid for

2174
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 2: him while he was sleeping, before running to a neighbor's

2175
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 2: house in tears and telling them, I've hurt him. I've

2176
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:07,680
Speaker 2: hurt him really bad. I think I've killed him. Well,

2177
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 2: he is eighty one and your fifty nine, ma'am, not

2178
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 2: like eighty one year old people. But bounce back from

2179
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 2: that also, like you were crying at your neighbor's house

2180
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:24,439
Speaker 2: with that premeditated ass playing you don't take the good

2181
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 2: ship boiling?

2182
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:25,599
Speaker 4: Right?

2183
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 3: And did as sugar to it? Ma'am you melting his

2184
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 3: skin off with that shit?

2185
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 2: What was the sugar for? Anyway? To make it stick

2186
01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:33,400
Speaker 2: to him?

2187
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 3: Yes, to make him stick to the sheets.

2188
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 4: A parent.

2189
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 2: That's so evilly and evil and premeditating.

2190
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 3: Right.

2191
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:42,720
Speaker 2: The police found her husband moaning in extreme pain. He too,

2192
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:45,639
Speaker 2: he has significant what you would too? Wow, I can

2193
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:50,839
Speaker 2: think that. You mean burns hurt everybody.

2194
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 3: Apparently she didn't know. Apparently I would not thank you for.

2195
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he changed on this.

2196
01:50:57,960 --> 01:50:59,519
Speaker 3: All she was trying to do is stick it to him.

2197
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 2: Oh, so he's just staying significant burns. So more than

2198
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 2: a third of his body died in the hospital in August.

2199
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 2: Smith changed her story initially, but then admitted what she did,

2200
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 2: but claimed it happened when she lost control.

2201
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 3: Lost control.

2202
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:27,240
Speaker 4: You sat there, nigga, didn't you know how long it

2203
01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:29,800
Speaker 4: takes for water the fucking ball You sat there, Put

2204
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 4: two kettles of water, let it boil, put you three back.

2205
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 3: You made a fucking super syrup. You gotta smothered him

2206
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 3: like pancakes. Mothered him like pancake syrup and was like,

2207
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 3: my bad.

2208
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 2: You gotta go buy three bags of sugar.

2209
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, fifteen pounds of sugar.

2210
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 2: You gotta go buy that. You don't even have that

2211
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 2: sitting around there. Most people, if I said, go get

2212
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:54,920
Speaker 2: me fifteen pounds of sugar, they'd be like, from what store?

2213
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:57,840
Speaker 2: You just gotta be premeditated.

2214
01:51:57,840 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 3: It's no way Sam's Club.

2215
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I'm not saying they weren't in her

2216
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:04,799
Speaker 2: house at the time. I'm saying she bought that sugar

2217
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:08,679
Speaker 2: like a month ago, like she got.

2218
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:10,640
Speaker 3: She got the kids mad because now I can't make

2219
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 3: kool aid like she used like.

2220
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:14,080
Speaker 2: They was like, can I get some sugar? They're like, no,

2221
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 2: that is special sugar for me, that sugar alone. But yeah.

2222
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 5: She was found guilty as murder on Tuesday.

2223
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:30,280
Speaker 2: Speaking after the hearing, they said she killed them in

2224
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:33,640
Speaker 2: a brutal and painful way. She confessed the manslaughter for

2225
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 2: CPS fusic, except that actually deliberate and consider it so

2226
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:40,840
Speaker 2: her centizen will be In July ninth, Karen guessed the

2227
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:45,720
Speaker 2: race of Coriina Smith Black. Karen's going with Black. Let's

2228
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 2: check the chat room see what they believe. I bet

2229
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 2: he still tasted better than Aray's iced tea and sweet

2230
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 2: potato fries. But keep on listening to Medea if you

2231
01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 2: want to, you are going to jail black as well

2232
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 2: as the hot ice. And she was making white white.

2233
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:06,120
Speaker 2: I got a special sugar that's not race and of

2234
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 2: good and bad and happy and sad owl green with

2235
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 2: the hot sugar gras and good. Oh, she hoping them

2236
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 2: white women tells save her from the chair. White. Tyler

2237
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 2: Perry presents diabetes sugar water white black. She she yelled, big, Mama,

2238
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 2: your arm as the sugar diies melted into his skin.

2239
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 2: Black black, brown, sugar, baby white. I'm just glad y'all

2240
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:38,479
Speaker 2: was as evil as us. Okay, y'all, don't ever let

2241
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 2: us feel too bad.

2242
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 3: No, thank y'all. Don't never let us get too hot.

2243
01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 3: Highly I think too hot.

2244
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 2: This is the kind of This is the group thing

2245
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:49,560
Speaker 2: we need. She uses the same amount of sugar in

2246
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 2: one picture of kool Aid creative black. The other kettle

2247
01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:55,520
Speaker 2: had grits to mix with the deadly sugar white. Diabetes

2248
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 2: on the inside, diabetes on the out side. Take he

2249
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:02,639
Speaker 2: got the sugar to a whole another level. Yeah, dude, sweetie,

2250
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 2: the correct.

2251
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 3: Answer is.

2252
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:20,720
Speaker 2: She was white cararaist Oh, I did many of you

2253
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:21,679
Speaker 2: did get it though.

2254
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,719
Speaker 4: I should have known if it win grits, they should

2255
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 4: have said clem a week.

2256
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:30,880
Speaker 3: That would have been easy to figure out.

2257
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 2: There's a twenty like twenty two year age difference between them.

2258
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:37,640
Speaker 2: Eighty one fifty nine, right, she.

2259
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 3: Still had a whole life to live.

2260
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could get divorcee and like still got some

2261
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 2: you know, you still got some years.

2262
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 4: Man.

2263
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 2: You just now you're gonna be in jail forever and

2264
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:51,800
Speaker 2: you're a murderer. Come on, that's sad. Let's go to

2265
01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 2: the next one. Girl Power. We found out our boyfriend

2266
01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 2: was seeing us both, so we had the secret plan

2267
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 2: to confront and it became BFFs oh shit. Two scoring

2268
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 2: strangers who claimed they discovered they had been dating the

2269
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 2: same man for eight months got their revenge by luring

2270
01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 2: him to Turkey for a holiday, but ditched him once

2271
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:15,160
Speaker 2: they landed to go on the Ultimate girl's trip instead.

2272
01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 4: Ha ha.

2273
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:20,120
Speaker 2: Christian Bishop says she received a voicemail out of blue

2274
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 2: at the end of March from the stranger, Sophie Miller,

2275
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 2: who revealed she had been dating her boyfriend Adam thirty four.

2276
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 5: For the entire eight month relationship. She was Barbara, just Shirley.

2277
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 2: Come on, let's talk the thirty eight year The thirty

2278
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 2: three year old initially refused to believe Sophie's revelation, but

2279
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 2: after the periportly FaceTime while Sophie twenty six was inside

2280
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:45,959
Speaker 2: Adam's apartment, they began to plot their revenge.

2281
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 3: Oh, she's like, I'm here right now, Like, I'm not

2282
01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 3: bullshiting you.

2283
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:51,400
Speaker 2: Shot, that's a real one.

2284
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 8: Like.

2285
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 5: And then to have the gall to like to save

2286
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 5: the time to do the confrontation. That's wow.

2287
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 2: Wow's girl.

2288
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 3: You want me on teams?

2289
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:03,120
Speaker 5: Let's go right like they.

2290
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 2: Came up with a group project. Christian revealed she knew

2291
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 2: what had been going on as soon as the pair

2292
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 2: of landed in Turkish soil in April second and moments later,

2293
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:17,480
Speaker 2: a flabbergasted Adam was shocked further when Sophie made a

2294
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 2: surprise appearance. The two girls dumped their shared lover as

2295
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:24,160
Speaker 2: arrivals before walking off together to Georgia City.

2296
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, goddamn right, girl, let's go in Jordia's city. You

2297
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,280
Speaker 3: want to take pictures and.

2298
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 2: This during the pandemic, so they meant that. Christian and

2299
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 2: engineer from Houston and Texas said, I found out about

2300
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:37,960
Speaker 2: him cheating about four days prior to the trip. Sophie

2301
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 2: and I honestly had a phenomenal time. From the top

2302
01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:43,880
Speaker 2: moment we met. We instantly connected. Over the unfortunate circumstance.

2303
01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 2: We became friends quite quickly after we met.

2304
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 3: We had lots of.

2305
01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 2: Time to get to know each other and develop a

2306
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 2: friendship that came out of it. Fall really bonded over

2307
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:54,560
Speaker 2: the eight day trip, and it's by far the happiest

2308
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 2: thing out of this unfortunate situation that I found a

2309
01:56:56,960 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 2: great friend. There was some shock when at first came out.

2310
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 2: Any person's going to take some time to process and

2311
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 2: learn from this. Sophie and I have strong people with

2312
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 2: strong morals, and we're taking this as a lesson learned.

2313
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 2: A girl's trip is evidently better than trying to travel

2314
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:13,040
Speaker 2: along to a foreign country. As soon as she offered

2315
01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 2: to join me, I was one hundred percent on board.

2316
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 2: I said, this is the start of something great. Let's

2317
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 2: do it. They Christin first met Adam on Hinge in

2318
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 2: August twenty twenty, and although they dated casually, at first,

2319
01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:27,080
Speaker 2: they eventually became exclusive, even playing the holiday together in Turkey.

2320
01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 2: The pair had envisaged spending three days admiring high air

2321
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 2: balloons in Cappadocia before returning to Istanbul to enjoy the bazaars,

2322
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 2: But just four days before the twelve hour flight, Christmapher

2323
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 2: received a voicemail from an unknown woman who claimed I've

2324
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 2: been seeing her boyfriend Adam for nine months. CHRISTI said,

2325
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:50,680
Speaker 2: shortly before the partner our trip, I learned that he

2326
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 2: was not just with me, he was another girl who

2327
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:54,840
Speaker 2: had been in the mix since we met up. Damn

2328
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:58,240
Speaker 2: from day once you find out you was the side

2329
01:57:58,360 --> 01:58:00,400
Speaker 2: check and y'all playing vacations right.

2330
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:03,600
Speaker 5: She contacted me and left a voicemail. That's how I

2331
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 5: found out.

2332
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 2: She left me a short voicemail to the point that

2333
01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:08,040
Speaker 2: basically said, Hey, I've just learned about you. I've been

2334
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:09,920
Speaker 2: dating this person for nine months and I thought you'd

2335
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:11,560
Speaker 2: like to know about me. Give me a call if

2336
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 2: you have any questions. At the initial shock, I gave

2337
01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 2: her a call and we chatted for a bit. It

2338
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:18,280
Speaker 2: was clear very quickly she was telling the truth and

2339
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:20,560
Speaker 2: we needed to talk some more to get to the

2340
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 2: bottom of.

2341
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 3: What was happening. The probably talked about personal features that

2342
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 3: he had, and she liked that. She's like, oh you know,

2343
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:29,680
Speaker 3: oh yeah, so all right, care guess the race white?

2344
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 2: All right, Karen's going with white. Apparently, I don't think

2345
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 2: black women could put this behind him.

2346
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 3: All right.

2347
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:44,280
Speaker 2: Let's see traveling had enough money to take his cheating

2348
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 2: ass on the trip, and they made friends with each other.

2349
01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:48,320
Speaker 2: White woman Instagram.

2350
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 3: What woman, oh white woman Instagram.

2351
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 2: Un based at turkeys, Becky, this is Shelley had money

2352
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:02,760
Speaker 2: on four days. Noticed the catch flights not feelings. Uh,

2353
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:05,800
Speaker 2: Sophie's choice white white. They went to Turkey, not Miami.

2354
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:08,760
Speaker 2: White twenty first century, Sophie choice white. Neither of them

2355
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 2: wore bonnets to the airport. No, but they did work

2356
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:16,840
Speaker 2: for Jonas, but no one judged them white. No, no

2357
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 2: such thing as blacks they wore. They wore baseball caps,

2358
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:23,520
Speaker 2: but Monique didn't tap him on the shoulder them Man

2359
01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 2: luis sitting setting these fools up. This is a plot

2360
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 2: twist from pure taboo. White's not like And then there

2361
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 2: was some ccisoring Eskimo sisters and Judd appatabo movie White.

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01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:36,680
Speaker 5: This is expensive, Get back, get get back, the whitest.

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01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:52,400
Speaker 2: It is white. Everyone got it right. It's sad that

2364
01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:55,000
Speaker 2: everybody knew that black people don't travel or get along

2365
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:59,120
Speaker 2: like this. That's sad. We just got a couple of like,

2366
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:02,120
Speaker 2: just you know, for the just for just a couple

2367
02:00:02,120 --> 02:00:04,280
Speaker 2: of blacks, just to be like we're different some of

2368
02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:05,280
Speaker 2: us and everything.

2369
02:00:05,680 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 5: Nope, everybody's like white black people would never.

2370
02:00:11,320 --> 02:00:14,040
Speaker 3: Uh traveling this ship. I mean niggas travel but it's

2371
02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:14,680
Speaker 3: like not like that.

2372
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:17,680
Speaker 2: They blurred out his face and his uh and they

2373
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:20,160
Speaker 2: changed his name for the article because he's not that important.

2374
02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:25,280
Speaker 2: But that I think this is him with uh with Kristen,

2375
02:00:27,160 --> 02:00:31,200
Speaker 2: and this is Kristin and Sophie hanging out uh doing.

2376
02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 2: They do look like they had a good time.

2377
02:00:34,240 --> 02:00:35,680
Speaker 3: What the time of my life?

2378
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:37,520
Speaker 5: They do like they had a good time.

2379
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:39,600
Speaker 3: But that girl we spell his money.

2380
02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:42,720
Speaker 5: Let's go look at these locales. Okay, ain't they gorgeous?

2381
02:00:43,040 --> 02:00:46,000
Speaker 3: They like they have went to the mountains day.

2382
02:00:47,040 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 2: It's probably low key.

2383
02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 3: Oh ship, that is a white woman's it's the ground

2384
02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:52,200
Speaker 3: page going through hill. They really do.

2385
02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:53,680
Speaker 2: Look at the pumpkins.

2386
02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:56,000
Speaker 3: A white woman in the ground.

2387
02:00:56,000 --> 02:01:02,080
Speaker 2: A picture of pumpkins. Yes, yeah, absolutely, Oh he ended

2388
02:01:02,160 --> 02:01:06,000
Speaker 2: up being on their flight home. There they're doing yoga

2389
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:10,040
Speaker 2: with goats on them. Yeah, this is absolutely Uh, they

2390
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:14,400
Speaker 2: are having the time of their lives hiking. Listen. Okay,

2391
02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:17,040
Speaker 2: it's probably for the better because you know, man, we

2392
02:01:17,120 --> 02:01:18,720
Speaker 2: go on vacation, we'd be like, I don't want to

2393
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:20,360
Speaker 2: do all that ship you know.

2394
02:01:21,080 --> 02:01:23,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Women are like, you know, like, let's go.

2395
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:25,320
Speaker 5: Let's don't do goat yoga.

2396
02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:27,920
Speaker 3: Yes, I could have stayed in the house at home, nigga. No,

2397
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:28,640
Speaker 3: I didn't drive it.

2398
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:30,880
Speaker 2: This fly to look at you like she finally got

2399
02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:32,960
Speaker 2: somebody traveling.

2400
02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:33,280
Speaker 3: Buddy.

2401
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:47,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the bonus round. It's it's time.

2402
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:54,880
Speaker 2: It's time, all.

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02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:57,000
Speaker 5: Right, bonus time, double the points, double the race.

2404
02:01:57,960 --> 02:01:58,080
Speaker 4: Uh.

2405
02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:03,160
Speaker 2: Apparently we got some chicken crimes. Oh shit, we got

2406
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:07,120
Speaker 2: two different chicken crimes, different races. Okay, just let you know.

2407
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:10,080
Speaker 2: First one is one race, the second one is a

2408
02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:13,080
Speaker 2: different race. Okay, let's do the first one. A brotherly

2409
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:17,040
Speaker 2: argument over some chicken turned violent Monday evening when a

2410
02:02:17,080 --> 02:02:20,280
Speaker 2: Florida man allegedly threw a knife at his sibling. According

2411
02:02:20,280 --> 02:02:22,880
Speaker 2: to cops, will say, the airborne weapon got struck stuck

2412
02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:24,040
Speaker 2: in the victim's right leg.

2413
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:25,920
Speaker 5: Oh Messiah.

2414
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:31,960
Speaker 2: Harris Smith, nineteen is facing a felony aggravated battery charge

2415
02:02:32,200 --> 02:02:36,840
Speaker 2: in connection with the June fourteenth incident. Oh shit the Messiah,

2416
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:40,640
Speaker 2: the victim who told police he did not want his

2417
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:41,680
Speaker 2: brother prosecuted.

2418
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:45,200
Speaker 5: We need to receive stitches, Harris.

2419
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:47,840
Speaker 3: They was like, we don't care. We charging him anywhere.

2420
02:02:47,880 --> 02:02:48,400
Speaker 3: He attacked you.

2421
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:51,040
Speaker 2: Harrismith, who was pleaded not guilty, was at least last

2422
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:53,280
Speaker 2: night from County jail on was on with cognisance. Harris

2423
02:02:53,280 --> 02:02:56,240
Speaker 2: Smith was arrested earlier this year for allegedly pushing and

2424
02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:58,480
Speaker 2: threatening it to kill his mother doing an argument in

2425
02:02:58,520 --> 02:03:02,440
Speaker 2: their home. Subsequently decided not to pursue a misdemeanor domestic

2426
02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:05,040
Speaker 2: battery case against the six one, two hundred and fifty

2427
02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:11,480
Speaker 2: pounds teenager. So nineteen, that's the first one. The second one.

2428
02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:14,200
Speaker 2: A Florida woman is facing a domestic battery charge at

2429
02:03:14,240 --> 02:03:16,560
Speaker 2: the allegedly pelting their boyfriend in the face and chests

2430
02:03:16,640 --> 02:03:22,000
Speaker 2: with a plate of chicken. Investigators charge that Jennifer Booth

2431
02:03:22,640 --> 02:03:25,480
Speaker 2: forty three struck the fifty six year old victim with

2432
02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:28,560
Speaker 2: the chicken while the couple was eating last Wednesday night

2433
02:03:28,640 --> 02:03:33,240
Speaker 2: on the porch of their home in Bradington. Booth's companion,

2434
02:03:33,320 --> 02:03:36,920
Speaker 2: who cooked dinner, was not injured by the poultry folk Laide.

2435
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:41,600
Speaker 2: He told police that Booth became violent during a verbal argument,

2436
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:43,400
Speaker 2: picked up the paper plate of chicken and threw it

2437
02:03:43,480 --> 02:03:46,160
Speaker 2: in my face. After the man called nine one one.

2438
02:03:46,200 --> 02:03:49,600
Speaker 2: Booth was arrested and booked into the County jail. She

2439
02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:52,280
Speaker 2: was released Friday on five hundred dollars bond. Booth, who

2440
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:55,800
Speaker 2: works at a Lakewood hospital, has three prior arrests, most

2441
02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:59,040
Speaker 2: recently for twenty fifteen domestic violence. According to a court

2442
02:03:59,120 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 2: filing that does not include case dispositions. Oh While Booth

2443
02:04:03,120 --> 02:04:05,920
Speaker 2: and the victims share a surname, a pre trial service

2444
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:08,640
Speaker 2: report lists her marital status as single, while in the

2445
02:04:08,720 --> 02:04:11,960
Speaker 2: rest report identifies the victim as her boyfriend. Booth is

2446
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:14,600
Speaker 2: an avid hunter whose Facebook page is stocked with pictures

2447
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:18,320
Speaker 2: of her posing with animals she shot dead images that

2448
02:04:18,440 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 2: have that prompted online derision. One photo shows are holding

2449
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:24,280
Speaker 2: the head of a giraffe kill during the twenty seventeen

2450
02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:26,720
Speaker 2: hunting South Africa. Oh No, what you described in a

2451
02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 2: Facebook caption as one of the best days of my life,

2452
02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 2: Karen guess the race of first Messiah Harrismith.

2453
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:37,160
Speaker 3: Okay, so we guess the race of both.

2454
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:39,040
Speaker 2: You guess the nurse of both. There's different races.

2455
02:04:39,200 --> 02:04:42,480
Speaker 3: Oh, Church's chicken black, all right, and of.

2456
02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:45,600
Speaker 2: Course, guess the race of Jennifer Jennifer.

2457
02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:47,680
Speaker 3: Booth unseasoned chicken breast white.

2458
02:04:47,960 --> 02:04:50,000
Speaker 2: All right. Let's check the chat room, see what they believe.

2459
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:52,680
Speaker 2: First story is black, second story is white. It should

2460
02:04:52,720 --> 02:04:55,080
Speaker 2: have been a hate crime to throw unseased chicken at someone.

2461
02:04:55,520 --> 02:05:00,080
Speaker 2: First white, first black, too evil at white. Juwan, I

2462
02:05:00,120 --> 02:05:02,960
Speaker 2: said salt and pepper to taste white. So I guess

2463
02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:04,760
Speaker 2: he's going with both of them in the same race.

2464
02:05:05,120 --> 02:05:08,720
Speaker 2: One black, two colonizing white first June teenth Junie Budd.

2465
02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:13,840
Speaker 2: Second is colorless crickets. The story number one niggas fighting

2466
02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:18,080
Speaker 2: over fried chicken legs. Story number two payhanded Republican crackers.

2467
02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:22,000
Speaker 2: One everyone knows the Messiah is black. Two we ain't

2468
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:23,800
Speaker 2: wasting no chicken white.

2469
02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:25,960
Speaker 5: Black Row says.

2470
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:28,320
Speaker 2: One didn't want his brother charge and the other called

2471
02:05:28,320 --> 02:05:29,480
Speaker 2: the police on his girlfriend.

2472
02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:33,000
Speaker 5: The first is white and the second is white. Okay,

2473
02:05:33,160 --> 02:05:34,120
Speaker 5: I think those are the same.

2474
02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:34,360
Speaker 3: One.

2475
02:05:34,520 --> 02:05:38,680
Speaker 2: I think he meant black and white. Mule Skinner says,

2476
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:43,240
Speaker 2: black second, cops won't kill me instead, white June says,

2477
02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:49,520
Speaker 2: niggas and crackers in that soup black white, Pope's and KFC.

2478
02:05:51,240 --> 02:05:53,320
Speaker 2: First one is black, second one is white, black and

2479
02:05:53,400 --> 02:05:56,880
Speaker 2: white versus black. All right, the correct answer is it

2480
02:05:56,960 --> 02:05:58,840
Speaker 2: seemed like everyone had the same thing. You all got

2481
02:05:58,920 --> 02:05:59,920
Speaker 2: it black and white.

2482
02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:14,040
Speaker 3: Wow.

2483
02:06:14,760 --> 02:06:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's not a good day for chicken crimes

2484
02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:19,560
Speaker 2: in Florida.

2485
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:20,600
Speaker 3: Chicken.

2486
02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it must have been chicken day, you know, just

2487
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:26,840
Speaker 2: like at average we see you, Sunday is chicken day.

2488
02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:29,160
Speaker 2: It must have been chicken day. And then people started

2489
02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:33,680
Speaker 2: doing crimes. All right, let's get to the last thing.

2490
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:37,040
Speaker 2: Let's talk about these swords, sword ratchetness.

2491
02:06:39,960 --> 02:06:45,320
Speaker 6: Than m.

2492
02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:00,840
Speaker 2: A man with a sword threat is a woman and

2493
02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:04,480
Speaker 2: the police. And this happened in the town Karen was

2494
02:07:04,520 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 2: born in, Coon Rapids. A coon rappids man.

2495
02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:13,480
Speaker 3: Look at the coon.

2496
02:07:16,960 --> 02:07:21,839
Speaker 2: That's the anthem of That's the anthem of Karen's hometown.

2497
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:38,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, coon's rappids man threatened to kill a woman

2498
02:07:38,240 --> 02:07:40,520
Speaker 2: and to capitate the town's police chief with a sword.

2499
02:07:41,200 --> 02:07:45,600
Speaker 2: Ryan Patrick McAllister, right, forty one, was arrested for the threats,

2500
02:07:45,960 --> 02:07:48,880
Speaker 2: which allegedly happened at two point fifty pm while he

2501
02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:51,720
Speaker 2: stood in the street the day he's charged of going

2502
02:07:52,080 --> 02:07:54,760
Speaker 2: armed with intent, a felony punishable. About the five years

2503
02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:57,640
Speaker 2: in prison and harassment carrying weapons and the soily conduct

2504
02:07:57,640 --> 02:08:01,160
Speaker 2: with a misdemeanors, he just doesn't like law enforcement.

2505
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:05,600
Speaker 5: Coon Rapids Police Chief Andy Kline said what.

2506
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:07,600
Speaker 2: What?

2507
02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:08,120
Speaker 3: Andy?

2508
02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:10,920
Speaker 4: Are you sickly a police officer and didn't tell us

2509
02:08:11,040 --> 02:08:14,720
Speaker 4: Randolph Vintage? Andy Kline had this to say, Randolph, you

2510
02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:16,880
Speaker 4: might you might want to investigate your co hosts.

2511
02:08:17,200 --> 02:08:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean spells it different, but that could be

2512
02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:22,800
Speaker 2: as a typo in the article for we know, we know,

2513
02:08:23,320 --> 02:08:25,800
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I mean he probably would have been

2514
02:08:25,880 --> 02:08:28,160
Speaker 2: real calm and collected about it. You know, he would

2515
02:08:28,200 --> 02:08:31,120
Speaker 2: have been he would have called everybody down and then

2516
02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:34,280
Speaker 2: made jokes that might have been a sarcastic joke. He

2517
02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:37,480
Speaker 2: just doesn't like most law enforcement. It's like, I don't

2518
02:08:37,480 --> 02:08:39,240
Speaker 2: know about this one, Andy Kline.

2519
02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:40,960
Speaker 3: And I'll be doing my fifteen minutes tonight at the

2520
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:41,400
Speaker 3: local bar.

2521
02:08:42,080 --> 02:08:42,240
Speaker 7: Right.

2522
02:08:44,360 --> 02:08:46,440
Speaker 2: I've just put it on Facebook and I tagged him

2523
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:49,400
Speaker 2: to it. Wow, that's an understate.

2524
02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:51,160
Speaker 3: I can't believe you.

2525
02:08:51,480 --> 02:08:53,640
Speaker 2: And I didn't know he was the fist all this

2526
02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:57,560
Speaker 2: time McAllister and the woman our acquaintance, client said, but

2527
02:08:57,680 --> 02:09:00,720
Speaker 2: it was unclear what sparked the altercation. Witnesses support MacAllister

2528
02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:02,320
Speaker 2: is standing the streeting at the house with the sword

2529
02:09:02,640 --> 02:09:07,280
Speaker 2: and yelling his threats. Mcallis surrendered to arrest without a

2530
02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:11,560
Speaker 2: physical struggle. So that's it, y'all. Thank you for listening.

2531
02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:15,520
Speaker 2: We appreciate you. We'll be back Saturday with your feedback,

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02:09:16,320 --> 02:09:19,840
Speaker 2: Boss Deeps Thursday, Nerd Office Friday for our premium people.

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Speaker 2: So y'all still getting MOW and more podcasts, but everybody

2534
02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:24,680
Speaker 2: else will see y'all Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Until then, I love you, h