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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 2: money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Rashaan McDonald. I host the Money Making Conversation

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Speaker 3: Masterclass show. The interviews and information this show provides off

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Speaker 3: for everyone. It's time to stop reading other people's success

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Speaker 3: stories and start living your own. My guess is George Wallace.

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Speaker 3: He is the author one of my favorite books, or

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Speaker 3: Twit and Whatnot. We would discuss the current SAG and

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Speaker 3: wj's strike and his long term impact.

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Speaker 1: George Wallace's laughter has always been.

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Speaker 3: The best medicine and he has a small business mindset

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Speaker 3: which is giving him a career filled with longeviy. He

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Speaker 3: just start you know, we're suppos to be talking about

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Speaker 3: the sitcom because of the striker won't be able to

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Speaker 3: talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Then he just stopped that.

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Speaker 3: You called clean slate with normal Leo Laveron Cox. It's

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Speaker 3: a very talented brother. Saw him lying out the door

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Speaker 3: with my good friend j Anthony Brown, let you know,

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Speaker 3: and Myra j would let me know that stand up

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Speaker 3: comedy is live and well if you're over sixty. George

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Speaker 3: was with Metro Media back in nineteen seventy four, making

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Speaker 3: seventy five thousand dollars a year selling Rags Rags, so

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Speaker 3: he truly is a Rags the Richest Story. Please welcome

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Speaker 3: to Money Making Conversation Masterclass, Doctor George Waller, Doctor George Wallers.

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Speaker 4: Who wrote that story for you? That ain't that's not

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Speaker 4: you just make up. That's a line to think that

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Speaker 4: a big line? How old?

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me today.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Jeorge, First of all, you came in my office

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Speaker 3: and told this incredible story about rags and that's what

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Speaker 3: you was doing in New York City. Can you explain

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Speaker 3: to the audience because that really has created that small

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Speaker 3: businessman mentalent and you always been a salesman. Talk about

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Speaker 3: what you do do for a living before you started

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Speaker 3: doing stand up comedy.

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Speaker 4: Well, most important, you're talking about being a salesperson. We

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Speaker 4: all deal with sales every day. If you're not selling,

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Speaker 4: you're not living. You've got to sell you first, and

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Speaker 4: you sell your products. And today our product and my

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Speaker 4: product is laughter. So I always wanted to be a

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Speaker 4: comedian six years old, but I had to find a

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Speaker 4: beagle on an avenue to go to find out how

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Speaker 4: can I make money so I don't have to starve

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Speaker 4: while I'm in show business. Then I studied advertising and

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Speaker 4: I found out that to be a good way to

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Speaker 4: a good salesperson. So I did that. I sold rags,

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Speaker 4: Cleveland cotton products. I sold the sham Wow back in

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Speaker 4: A linen cloth, but now you notice it's it's a

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Speaker 4: So but so real rights to gas stations. You're old

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Speaker 4: enough to know you went to the gas station, ding, ding,

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Speaker 4: Everybody needs the rags rag. You'd be surprised. The doctors,

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Speaker 4: the dentists, the restaurants, stuff their homes, body shops. Everybody

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Speaker 4: because I sold a lot of rags and rags I

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Speaker 4: I moved from That's how I transitioned. You gotta be

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Speaker 4: careful how you use the word transition. Now I transitioned.

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Speaker 4: I can tell you this. I'm transitioning aw myself into

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Speaker 3: But Joy, But Joy, let's slow down to that old

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Speaker 1: It was all age groups.

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Speaker 3: And in fact, I took a video of the line

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Speaker 3: and a photo. Not that I was shocked, It's just

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Speaker 3: let you see the diversity of people from gender, to

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Speaker 1: What is your style of comedy, George Wallace?

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Speaker 4: I wish, I wish I can I describe it? I

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Speaker 4: know everybody's that your old people, young people, black people,

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Speaker 4: because that's what I do. They you know, I appeal

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Speaker 4: And right now the new thing is young kids. I

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Speaker 4: guess you call them Generation x Z. They're bringing their

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Speaker 4: things like that. But these young kids now are bringing

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Speaker 4: and I have jokes for the young people. I tell

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Speaker 4: the young people the old people don't understand them, and

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Speaker 5: It's a blend of my appeal. That's what it is.

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Speaker 4: I just love entertaining everybody, young, old, black and white.

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Speaker 4: Diversity is there, and I just love talking because I

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I did tell Orr about Joe Wallace me.

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Speaker 3: George Wallers has been in my life over thirty years.

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Speaker 3: I met George Wallace when I went up to New

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm trying to be a That's what That's how.

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Speaker 3: That's how I was introduced to George Waller. He walked

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Speaker 4: I wasn't I was gonna have to say for nobody

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Speaker 3: You George said, what are you doing in here?

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Speaker 3: I said, trying to be a stabish commed and we

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Speaker 1: That was eighty eight, and we have been friends every since.

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Speaker 3: Because a lot of people need to understand that comedy

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Speaker 4: It's almost like that it was so white that they

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Speaker 5: And one time happened.

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Speaker 4: I went on with me and Mooney and Richard Pown

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Speaker 3: He's telling the truth, because that's how I met j

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Speaker 3: Alabama at the Punchline. Because they would never book two

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Speaker 3: and that's how Jay got on the show. And that's

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Speaker 3: how I met j Anthony Brown. And it's really because

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Speaker 3: ain't that long ago that people were booking people like this.

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Speaker 1: And what we had to deal with that. And then

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Speaker 5: Wow, damnastic Death coming to town.

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Speaker 4: So the young African American kids, they went off and

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Speaker 5: In the day.

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Speaker 4: The young kids, they could express themselves because at that

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: And I did tonight's show. You couldn't cuss, you couldn't

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Speaker 3: But George, see here's George. See George was controlling all

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you this, when I death Jam, because

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Speaker 4: Oh? Because the black people that loved me, they saw

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Speaker 4: him laugh, right, So that's what happened there. So I

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Speaker 4: They loved me from the white shows because they did

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Speaker 4: watch them Tonight show. And so the black people always

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Speaker 4: followed me from day one. And thank god, I have

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Speaker 4: a great crowd. I'm so blessed, you know. And I

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Speaker 4: used to be known as clean Christian comedian.

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Speaker 5: I'm still Christian. Bla ain't clean.

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Speaker 3: I'm about to say, as Wills went on that random

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Speaker 1: Will's men, that wasn't no Christian clean comedy. You did that?

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Speaker 5: Brother, Listen to me.

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Speaker 4: And the first person that called me was Bishop Blake,

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Speaker 4: Bister Blake. He was the first person to call me

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Speaker 4: and said, I said, I know I'm in trouble doing that.

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Speaker 4: He said, man, do your thing. I laughed my butt off,

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Speaker 4: that's what he said. And it's just like it's so good,

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Speaker 4: you know. Uh so, But now it's time for me

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Speaker 4: to cuss. Let me tell you something. I've been at

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Speaker 4: Christian Committee for forty seven years and there's so many

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Speaker 4: ways to cuss. Now you got to cuss. You got

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Speaker 4: all of these white folks getting on my nerve. Man,

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Speaker 4: this let me tip about the white people. I'm talking

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Speaker 4: about George Clarence Thomas. Just let me tell you, so

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Speaker 4: these white people are getting Curstia Walker hurt. White people

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Speaker 4: getting on my nerve. If you understand what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: what's a man named West down in Florida. They're getting

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Speaker 5: You can smell my breath over to TV.

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Speaker 3: You know that's bad, absolutely, absolutely absolutely. But you know

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Speaker 3: He went on Senior Whole Show last episode and put

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Speaker 4: All this all this just for sale, dots for the

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Speaker 5: That was really good.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, social media has done amazing for the young

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Speaker 4: new comedians. And I love the young comedians. I don't

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Speaker 4: do it. That's what I tell the young kids. And

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Speaker 4: they're doing a great job. Well you do it?

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Speaker 1: How you how you promote yourself?

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Speaker 3: Are you promote yourself through through television interviews?

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Speaker 3: Because you was talking about you want to get more

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Speaker 4: You shall take it the old way, rash And I

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Speaker 5: Get these young kids to come out and see you.

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Speaker 5: We know this.

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Speaker 3: We're in an interesting period now because of entertainment. You know,

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Speaker 4: It's a big problem because now let's just take the

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Speaker 3: So, so how do we fix that? Because you know

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Speaker 4: You never get nothing. Like you just said, I've gotten

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Speaker 4: a three cent check.

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Speaker 5: That's because yeah, and the stamp.

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Speaker 3: Is more than than the check to the check in

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Speaker 3: the paper and the paper, you know, George, and you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, we're defining something that's real serious because you

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Speaker 3: know Atlanta Market, they talking about billions of dollars of

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Speaker 3: movies that are being shot here annually that are not

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Speaker 3: being done right now. So that means a lot of

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Speaker 3: people are not working. A lot of impacted restaurants, caterers, uh,

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Speaker 3: people in clothing industry, chauffeurs in so many industry.

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Speaker 5: It trickles down.

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Speaker 4: What about the local restaurants out there that they're working

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Speaker 4: for paycheck week the week those restaurants are hurting, they're

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Speaker 4: going out of business out by the movie coming in

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Speaker 4: Atlanta and Sabavannah and all those surrounding areas and Los Angeles.

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Speaker 5: Also, I was very surprised this week.

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Speaker 4: Uh once the actor that dresses of What's Billy Porter

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Speaker 4: right here to sell his house tany. That's why I

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Speaker 4: want to teach the young people, make sure you save

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Speaker 4: your money and plan and manage your money right, because

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Speaker 4: once you get in the show Buness, you need a

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Speaker 4: year's salary in the bank so you can sustain sustainability.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he paid a lot of money for those dresses

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Speaker 4: he wears. I don't know what it is you need.

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Speaker 4: You have got to save and plan for the future.

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Speaker 4: You don't know when you're gonna be out. That's one

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Speaker 4: thing you got to do.

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Speaker 5: Plan and save.

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Speaker 4: You see the the we're talking about money now and

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Speaker 4: I so this is a whole different story. You see

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Speaker 4: the football players go out there and make twenty million

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Speaker 4: dollars one year, sixty million dollars a year, and next

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Speaker 4: thing you know, they're broke. Seventy three percent of all

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Speaker 4: the football players are broke after they leave the lead.

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Speaker 4: How do you do that? You don't do that stupid stuff.

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Speaker 4: Save your money. Don't go out there buying a thousand cars.

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Speaker 4: Take care of yourself, put your money in the bank,

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Speaker 4: a live like a normal person. But don't lose your money.

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Speaker 4: Whatever you do, do not lose your money.

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Speaker 1: Hey, George, stand up or acting? Which is tougher?

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Speaker 4: Stand up? Are you crazy? Stand up? Because all I

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Speaker 4: do is lie? I thank God for every day for

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Speaker 4: what do I have? The greatest job in the world

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Speaker 4: with Sean. I know you love it.

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Speaker 3: Joe, I asked you, which is tougher stand up or acting, and.

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Speaker 1: Then you said stand up. And then you just said

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Speaker 1: I have the greatest job. I can lie. What did

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Speaker 1: you misunderstand my question?

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Speaker 4: I lie every when I hit that stage, I lie.

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Speaker 4: I will tell a lot of minutes. I loved a lot,

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Speaker 4: because life is a lot. If you're not lying, you're

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Speaker 4: not living. Let's make that perfect your clear. Everything you

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Speaker 4: do in life you present every day. Somebody lied to you.

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Speaker 4: Every day you go to the Chinese restaurant a fortune cooking.

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Speaker 4: Here's a guy in the back of the kitchen thirty

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Speaker 4: three hundred years ago for the rag around and says

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Speaker 4: swetness soft making fortune cookies, and he knows what the

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Speaker 4: lucky numbers are. Everything is a lot. I don't care

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Speaker 4: where you go. It's all a lot. These new mattresses

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Speaker 4: on TV come in a box. They said, you don't

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Speaker 4: like it, you can send it back. You try to

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Speaker 4: put the mattress back in the box. One of Day

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Speaker 4: Vitamins is a live. One of Day Vitamins says take

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Speaker 4: one to day. Read your direction says take two. Everything

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Speaker 4: is a lot. I don't care what you do. You

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Speaker 4: go to church, the preacher say, I won't be long.

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Speaker 4: Everybody a lot of you. I don't give what it is.

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Speaker 4: It's a cheesecake factory. That ain't no that's a restaurant.

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Speaker 5: And technically it ain't no cake.

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Speaker 4: It's a pie and technically there's more sugar in it

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Speaker 4: down there. It's cheese. So the ship called the Sugar

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Speaker 4: Pie everything. The last time you bought.

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Speaker 5: A coat from the Brothers and coat battery, that's a lie.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Hey, George, your book Bullet Twitt and whatnot?

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Speaker 3: It was I got the fairy first one, by the way,

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Speaker 3: one of my all time favorite books. Every time I

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Speaker 3: bring you up, you said, hey, I got more that book.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't bought that book, is it's still available

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Speaker 1: on Amazon?

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Speaker 3: Correct, Joe, Yes, it is, okay, and you can also.

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Speaker 5: Get an on my network on my website.

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Speaker 1: George Wallers, was it George Wallers doting that? And you

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Speaker 1: can get that more Twitt and whatnot.

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Speaker 4: Y'all make more money if you buy it direct from

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Speaker 4: make nothing from Amazon. Let's be honest with this.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Cool?

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Speaker 3: Now, as an author, that's a whole new you know,

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Speaker 3: because everything's about time and you know that George, that's

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Speaker 3: a stand up comedian and so what you can say

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Speaker 3: on stage.

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Speaker 1: Because you're so.

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Speaker 3: Gifted, you could twist that word and make good morning funny,

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Speaker 3: make good morning funny.

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Speaker 5: Well I'm cussing on regular television.

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Speaker 3: Now, well, let's talk about this the book that's really funny.

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Speaker 3: How did you trust yourself that you could write something

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Speaker 3: down and people will still translate to humor that you

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Speaker 3: were expecting them to receive.

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Speaker 4: Because it's the way I said, my christ and allows

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Speaker 4: me to doing it.

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Speaker 5: My personality allows me.

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Speaker 4: To talk about blind people, allows me to talking about

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Speaker 4: I don't do a PC show, allows me to cuss.

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Speaker 4: I would take I would start talking about the rappers

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Speaker 4: like Walking Flock and Flame. Right, and now I'm cussing

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Speaker 4: in the book books what I'm talking about that? And

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Speaker 4: now I can cuss just saying walking flock instead of

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Speaker 4: the other word.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, there, my preacher walked up in.

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Speaker 4: The pool pits. Last time, I said, look at this

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Speaker 4: Walker Flocker walking up in here. So that's my customer.

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Speaker 4: Now Walker Flocker and I get the same results. I

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Speaker 4: get the same results with walker Plocker.

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Speaker 3: No, I always so I text you the other day

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Speaker 3: George Waller should have a documentary.

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Speaker 1: When is that gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: Well, we got to put that together because you know

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Speaker 4: you're not the first person to say it. Norman Live

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Speaker 4: is trying to do it. You want to do it,

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Speaker 4: everybody want to do but I've got you do it.

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Speaker 4: I have to put it together with you and somebody

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Speaker 4: because you don't make better than than Norman does.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know the thing about it, That's what happened

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Speaker 3: with Prime Time when he did that special where he

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Speaker 3: played football and baseball in the same day. You know,

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Speaker 3: he had to get with the right people that could

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Speaker 3: understand the vision. Because everybody wants to do it. Everybody

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Speaker 3: wants to do it. But but you know, in me,

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Speaker 3: I have a special relationship with you because I always

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Speaker 3: go back how you impacted me, and I've seen the journey.

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Speaker 1: You saw me in the hospital.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonn tell you something, y'all when I was near

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Speaker 3: death or nineteen nine, this man, I don't know how

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Speaker 3: he knew I was in the hospital came visited me

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Speaker 3: in the hospital, and to this day, I always felt

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Speaker 3: I was one of the great special moments because in

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Speaker 3: eighteen eighty you were pretty famous.

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Speaker 1: George Wallace, Well.

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Speaker 4: You are such a good person. You know, you have

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Speaker 4: to be give.

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Speaker 5: What goes around comes around.

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Speaker 4: What do they say about that?

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Speaker 5: You have got to be nice for me to have come.

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Speaker 4: I don't know where I was, but you were in

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Speaker 4: the hospital in Los Angeles, baby Houston, wherever you were.

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Speaker 5: But I said, I got go see this guy.

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Speaker 4: This is a nice guy and I and it was

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Speaker 4: only what three of us black people in the business

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Speaker 4: back then.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, come on it.

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Speaker 1: What do you see with the future of comed with AI?

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Speaker 3: Do you think AI will impact stand up comedy?

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Speaker 4: No matter what, the funny people will always rise to

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Speaker 4: the top. The cream will rise at the top. No

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Speaker 4: matter what they said television, they said, they said hip

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Speaker 4: hop was'm gonna last?

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Speaker 5: Where is it now?

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Speaker 4: Fifteen year comedy you always got to laugh because when

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Speaker 4: you stopped laughing, you stopped living. So comedians were the

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Speaker 4: funny people will always be there. AI.

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Speaker 5: I can't do nothing without us.

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Speaker 4: They can correlate it, put it together, whatever, but they

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Speaker 4: cannot do it without us. And the comedians are always

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Speaker 4: going to be number one. That's why it's the hardest

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Speaker 4: arc form today.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: He always said, I'm probably do anything yet laughter is

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Speaker 3: the best medic of doctor George Wallace. You can find

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Speaker 3: all his merchandise all his advance go to George Wallace

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Speaker 3: dot net. George Wallace, thank you for coming on Money

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Speaker 3: Making Conversations Matter.

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Speaker 5: I'll come back with you when I have my show

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Speaker 5: day be called clean Slate.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you, I love you, and there's absolutely nothing

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Speaker 4: you can do about it.

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Speaker 5: God bless us.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, brother, thank you for joining us for this

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Speaker 6: edition of Money Making Conversations Masterclass.

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