1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Right now. It's a second date update. So this is 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Paulina in Torrents lean into this. She says that it's 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: so weird that she's gone out with this guy five 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: times and then he wanted to be exclusive and she 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: said okay, and now he's unavailable. So Paulina tell me 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: about him asking about the exclusivity. What did he say? 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, okay. So it started because we met on bumble, right. 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: I really liked him. I thought he had really cute dimples. Honestly, 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: I thought he was out of my league. 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: I liked I think dimples are cute, right, I was 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: really cute, so cute, he had great bone structure. 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: Anyway, we went to dinner and I asked him why 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: he swiped right on me? What do you think about me? 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 2: And he was like, well, I thought you were really 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: hot and I thought you were out of my league. 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, great, we both have self low 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: self esteem here. This is greatly. 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 4: I like that we're both out of each other's that's great. 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: We'll deal with our issues next. Anyway, So, like, we 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 2: really ate it off. We had really great chemistry, great 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: physical chemistry. We hung out like five times. We went 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: out five times. And then one day we're just walking 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: from my apartment. We're going to get some breakfast, and 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: he said to me he wants to be exclusive because 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: quote word for word, he said, he's so into me, 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: and so I agreed. 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: I was like, cool, I really like storybook. 28 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: Like we've been out five times. Yeah, so over since then, 30 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: and then things just got really different. He switched up. 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: It's like short text back, never available to hang out, 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: and it's. 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: Like it's just like because he now he got you, 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: so he's not investing. It's so weird. You're out of 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: my league. You're so hot every I can't stop thinking 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: about you. I want to be with you so badly. 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: And then. 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: Crickets, it's where you playing hard to get before. 39 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: I don't think so, because I mean I don't think 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: I'm a game player. I don't like it. I don't 41 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 2: resonate with it. So you know, when he he asked me, 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: he asked me to be exclusive, I was in no run. 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: That's the thing that, Yeah, it's just so weird. All right, 44 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm I I got it, Like you want to know 45 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: what up to? Like, bro, what the w T W 46 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: T hold on one sea? I'm gonna We're inna w 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: TM in a second. Right, hold on, hold on, We're 48 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: gonna try and get this guy, Caleb. What up, Caleb? 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: You're gonna full court press and then back off. 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 4: W T. 51 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: On air with a Ryan Seacrest on Air on Air 52 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: with a Ryan Seacrest. Seacrest with you in the morning, 53 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Sis and Tanya in the back room, back room. It's 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: a second date up that you guys are dating. It 55 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: sounds juicy. You just Mikayla, you might want to listen. 56 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: So far, I think this guy Caleb is rude. Mikayla 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: be think I think so too. I mean, guy goes 58 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: to her, Oh Hi. 59 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 4: How are you? 60 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: Hi? 61 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: Jen? You're doing? Come on in? We'bout do a second date. Update. 62 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: That door that I mean, that is like a vault door. 63 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: It's like from some sort of heist movie. So heavy? 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: Are there bank deposit box in that room? No, seriously, 65 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: it's got one of those big dial door openers where 66 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: you gotta spin it around like a wheel. 67 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: Yes, it almost like when you try to be quiet, 68 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 4: more quiet. 69 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: It's like open the door. Let's just listen. Let's just 70 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: open the door the door. Listen. Let's the size this door. 71 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like I'm watching safe Crackers on the 72 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: prices right. 73 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 5: Why is it so loud? 74 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: You would think like at a radio station, But that's 75 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: not even a m it doesn't have a microphone. Anyway, 76 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: let's get to it. Second date update. Everybody's gathered around 77 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: the studio. Oh, I know it might be loud. 78 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 5: It might be bad because heavy, because there's people on 79 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 5: in desks right outside there, and maybe it's to sound proof. 80 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: We don't want to disturb them. No, we don't want 81 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: them to disturb us. Okay, well the door was disturbing 82 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: us more than them. Let me get Paulina. So, Paulina, look, 83 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: so you told us a story. I don't know. It 84 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: sounds rude to me. Let's see if there's a good 85 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: excuse here. But you go out with this guy, you 86 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: meet him on Bubble's name is Caleb. You go five times, 87 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: he wants to be exclusive, then he's unavailable all of 88 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: a sudden, when you say yeah, cool, let's do it. 89 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: After he pursues you hard, it sounded like, right, yeah, 90 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: here's the trick. You got to be very quiet because 91 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: we're going to talk to him right now and see 92 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: we can find out why like, why is he laying 93 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: off all of a sudden the gas? Okay, okay, cool, 94 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: here we go, Caleb, how are you, bro. 95 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 4: Good? How are you? 96 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Thank you for coming on the air 97 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: with us. My name is Ryan Seacrest. I've got some 98 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: friends here. It's Cisan and Tan. Yeah, Cale the air 99 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: with this this morning. Good. So anyway, I was calling 100 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: about a woman that you met on bumbl named Paulina. 101 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: Does that sound familiar? 102 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: Uh? 103 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, tell me about Paulina on you. I mean 104 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: we have been out and you know, she's great. I'm 105 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 4: not really sure what you want me to. 106 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: Yay, forgive the intrusion. So you went out a few 107 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: times and then you guys are just seeing each other? 108 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: Is I mean, are you dating each other exclusively? 109 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, Like that's kind of a 110 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 4: tough question. Where we've been out for sure? 111 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: Got it? Did you have a conversation about just seeing 112 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: each other and no one else? 113 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 114 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: Did you ask her that? 115 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, I mean we had talked about that idea. 116 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 4: I don't I don't really know where kind of things 117 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 4: stand right now, but yeah, we we talked around. 118 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: That idea around it. You didn't commit to it. 119 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. I think it was just 120 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 4: a conversation to kind of see where each other. 121 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: Was at as somebody you'd like to date exclusively. 122 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: Oh uh, yeah, it's you know, it's I think we met. 123 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 4: She's great. I think things just moved a little fast 124 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 4: for me, got it? 125 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: And what do you mean by that? 126 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 4: I mean, look, I just noticed that she follows like 127 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 4: a ton of wedding accounts on Instagram, like like a lot, 128 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 4: And I don't know, I hadn't really noticed that before, 129 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 4: and I guess it just kind of scared me a little. 130 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 5: We'll throw with that. 131 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 3: Do you follow a lot of wedding accounts? Sure? 132 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like you know, that kind of signals 133 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 4: what someone wants, probably and they want like this big, 134 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: elaborate wedding. 135 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: And I mean, Caleb, you've just started going out with 136 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: there like five times after bumble, I think to me, 137 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: can I give you my unexpert opinion, it sounds like 138 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: you really don't want to commit to her. 139 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 140 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: Look, it's just I don't know if I want to 141 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 4: commit to anybody, right, It's not something. 142 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: That transparent in that communication. 143 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: Well, no, because I've never seen the Instagram before, right, 144 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: and to see someone who follows that many accounts, it's 145 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 4: just like, oh, this is on your mind a lot, 146 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 4: and it's not. 147 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: You don't really want to go out with her again 148 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: or much or what? 149 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: No, no, No, she's great. Like when I first met her, 150 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my gosh, like you're You're incredible. 151 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 4: I think I just thought it would be good to be, 152 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 4: you know, honest about how I feel about this stuff. 153 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: And were you honest with her? 154 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: I mean I was honest in that I think she's awesome. 155 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: I think she's a great person. I think now that 156 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 4: I've seen the Instagram posts, I'm feeling a little like 157 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: we should probably have another talk. 158 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So given the opportunity to have that talk, would 159 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: you be honest with her? 160 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely great. 161 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: Paulina is on the phone with us right now. Paulina, 162 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: what is your reaction to Caleb. 163 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: Hi? 164 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: Caleb Hi, Look, I'm kind of confused. I don't really 165 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: know what to say. I've been following those accounts for years, 166 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: not just when we started dating. So I feel like 167 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: you're kind of like have this little paranoid assumption that 168 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: I want to marry you. 169 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 170 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 4: Look, I get that, and I don't This isn't like 171 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 4: an insult or anything. It just like it usually means 172 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 4: if someone follows that many accounts that they really want, 173 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 4: you know, this big, elaborate wedding, and it just feels just. 174 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 3: Assume that, Caleb, what accounts do you follow? 175 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: Do you follow like a narcissistic that she wants to 176 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: marry you all of a sudden. I'm just saying. 177 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 5: And also could just be inspell like cute photos and 178 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 5: images and stuff like she might just want a small wedding, 179 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 5: but a beautiful. 180 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: Well just so you know, girls, we've been planning our 181 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: weddings since we were five years old. 182 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, we they do that. 183 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, I get that. It's 184 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: just I just wanted to be I just felt a 185 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 4: little scared because it's like I don't even know if 186 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 4: I ever want to get married. 187 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: Okay, well there it is. 188 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: That's the truth. I don't understand that. 189 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: I mean, we should talk about this before we get 190 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: too far along, right, if our if our values aren't aligned, 191 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: you know, what's what's the point. You know? 192 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: It's like, so have you so fast? I mean, Caleb, Paulina, 193 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: are you sure Paulina that he's the dude for you. 194 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, now, I don't really know. Maybe not, 195 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like this is all way 196 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: too soon to be talking about this, and this is 197 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: all just kind of gotten really blown out of proportion. 198 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: Caleb. Let me just say this, just in Pauline's defense, 199 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: Like I follow extreme sports accounts, right, doesn't mean I'm 200 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: gonna ride a bike off the cliff. I mean, you 201 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: know we know that for sure, right, So it doesn't 202 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: mean I'm jumping off of a cliff in a kight. 203 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 4: I get it. It's just you know, my parents went 204 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 4: through a really bad divorce and so it just that 205 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 4: kind of talk just makes me on edge, you know. 206 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 4: And I just wanted to be up front that. 207 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: But you weren't upfront. 208 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: You were, you know, ignoring her text messages and replying 209 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: with short answers and you were about to ghost her 210 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: and and that's why we're here, So you were not front. 211 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: Yeah no, but I want to be that great. Okay, 212 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 4: So you're at what what what's the. 213 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: Next step here, Pauline? In your mind after hearing all 214 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: of this candor from Caleb. 215 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: I mean, like, yes, I'm getting married is something I 216 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: want to do ultimately, But I don't know that I 217 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: want to marry you because I don't know you well 218 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: enough yet. 219 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: It's so really so heavy light. 220 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 4: Like light up, dude. 221 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: I just feel like this is all way too soon 222 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: to be talking about this and now and now you know, 223 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: well now, I'm like, I don't want to necessarily be 224 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: with somebody's so avoidant and so narclusistic to things that, 225 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 2: oh my god, I like this girl wants to marry 226 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: me because she follows wedding into instagrams like I follow 227 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: furniture instagrams. I'm i' obsessed with furniture. 228 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: I just don't know. 229 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: I think I should probably, I think I should probably 230 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: just text you about this on the side. 231 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 4: Honestly, you guy, you guys do that. 232 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: Guys do that from Cale. Yeah, we need some non avoidant, 233 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: candid Caleb in the text, right, Good luck to you guys, cringing. 234 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: It was difficult. He's too heavy. Chill