Speaker 1: Smell us Now, Lady, welcome to Meet Eater Trivia Meta Podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Media Radio Line. It's eleven am, Montana time.
Speaker 1: It's snowing like the Dickens out there. Charles Dickens. Phil.
Speaker 1: It's Thursday, March twenty. We're live here from Meat Eater
Speaker 1: HQ and bos Angelus, Montana, the Greater bos Angelus Metropolitan Area.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Ryan cal Callahan. With me today is
Speaker 1: doctor Randall Williams. I like to give him one of these,
Speaker 1: Doctor Randall Williams, and who actually knows how to use
Speaker 1: her fists? Schneider Gran, what would you do instead of this?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not great at punching, but it's more like
Speaker 2: a headlock type.
Speaker 1: Sure. Sure, she's all about submission. That's what is that?
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 1: Right? Keep going? When was last time you were in
Speaker 1: a dojo? Phil?
Speaker 3: There's another bullet point beneath that one.
Speaker 1: We have all sorts of great stuff for you today,
Speaker 1: including fake news hosted by Doctor Randall. Guests such as
Speaker 1: Tidepool Tim from Gulf of Maine Ink, which I'm super
Speaker 1: excited for. You got some great questions for tide Pool
Speaker 1: Tim and Jordan Sellers, who, as you know, contributes a
Speaker 1: heck of a lot around the Old Meat Eater universe,
Speaker 1: from editorial to working on Cow's Weekend review, all your
Speaker 1: awesome like gun controversial, highly controversial gun on gun episode
Speaker 1: or article articles thank you on the website. Jordan has
Speaker 1: been working on a super cool new project in the
Speaker 1: true crime genre. Yeah, we're very excited to bring that
Speaker 1: to you. Phil's gonna make that noise the whole time
Speaker 1: because we don't have that's probably like the Law and
Speaker 1: Order theme song thing is probably not something that we
Speaker 1: can just rip off. Anyway, I'm gonna start off the
Speaker 1: show by giving you what you really want, which is
Speaker 1: like a policy in Federal Lands Update in the segment
Speaker 1: that somebody decided to call callan leashed. Oh wow, that's great.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I cut my own hair for this.
Speaker 1: It's true. Do you think I paid for it? Come on, okay,
Speaker 1: Public Lands Update. We're gonna start with the good stuff first.
Speaker 1: A tenth Circuit Court of Appeals, one of the highest
Speaker 1: federal courts in all of the land, just issued their
Speaker 1: judgment their decision on the second Federal appeal of the
Speaker 1: Corner Crossing case in Wyoming. This is huge for folks
Speaker 1: who aren't familiar with corner crossing, you will be shortly.
Speaker 1: Phil's gonna bring it up for you. If we can't
Speaker 1: get it up there, go to on X corner locked
Speaker 1: report and it just gives you a very good, easy
Speaker 1: breakdown of what we're talking about. But it's checkerboard and
Speaker 1: where the corners of the squares come together. That is
Speaker 1: how our land system's kind of broken down in the US.
Speaker 1: So stepping from one piece of public let's say, a
Speaker 1: black square to a black square at that corner, seems
Speaker 1: very straightforward, and by God, according to the judges it is.
Speaker 1: If you can wrap your head around this, stepping from
Speaker 1: public land to public land is legal. That's pretty much it.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much the update. A lot of people don't
Speaker 1: understand why this is controversial. It never should have been.
Speaker 1: Please read the decision out of the Tenth Circuit Court,
Speaker 1: a really great read, some good history on how these
Speaker 1: lands came together and how certain unsavory folks decided to
Speaker 1: try to tie up a bunch of Western land, miles
Speaker 1: and miles and miles, hundreds of millions of acres of
Speaker 1: western land through strategic purchases of small chunks of private
Speaker 1: land in an effort to block folks out of public land.
Speaker 1: I have a bunch of internal knowledge on this. But
Speaker 1: James Harrington, who we call him Jim, he was a
Speaker 1: board member for Backcountry Hunters and Anglers North American board member.
Speaker 1: He gave me an assessment of the situation because this
Speaker 1: still can be appealed by ironbire holdings, and so that
Speaker 1: you know, it's a threat that this may not be
Speaker 1: actually over. But according to Old Jim, he says, the
Speaker 1: judge or the judge is there's a whole list of
Speaker 1: judges in the Tenth Circuit. They were appointed by George Bush,
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan, and Obama. This case ain't getting turned over
Speaker 1: at the Supreme Court, and it's the law until it's not.
Speaker 1: And the Supreme Court probably wouldn't even be able to
Speaker 1: hear an appeal for two to three years. So what
Speaker 1: that means is they upheld the original Federal court decision
Speaker 1: in the Ninth Circuit at the Tenth Circuit. This applies
Speaker 1: to basically basically like Tenth Circuit jurisdiction, which is Utah, Colorado, Wyoming.
Speaker 1: These little spits of Yellowstone National Park, the y NP
Speaker 1: that that stick out into Idaho and Montana, but not elsewhere. However,
Speaker 1: this is the big thing states like Montana that have
Speaker 1: a lot millions acres of corner locked land. This is
Speaker 1: the only case that has ever been tried to address
Speaker 1: this specific question. So let's say I go out here
Speaker 1: in my home state and I do crazy thing of
Speaker 1: stepping from public land to public land, and somebody says
Speaker 1: I don't like that, and they want to they want
Speaker 1: to sue take me to court. Their lawyer would say, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to take all your money. For sure. Don't
Speaker 1: want to get in the way of that. But just
Speaker 1: so you know, here's a Wyoming case, Here's a ninth
Speaker 1: Circuit court case, here's a tenth circuit court case that
Speaker 1: all says this is totally legal, and by the way,
Speaker 1: it always has been. So I'll take your money. We
Speaker 1: can take this dude to court, but this is what
Speaker 1: we're up against. You shouldn't do that, OK. But that
Speaker 1: that's where we're at right now. So a big round
Speaker 1: of applause, huge, huge thanks to Wyoming back huntry hunters
Speaker 1: and anglers who were the folks who got a whole
Speaker 1: of the Missouri corner crossers and said, hey, we got
Speaker 1: your back. We're gonna do whatever we can to raise
Speaker 1: money for your legal fees and Backhountry hunters and anglers
Speaker 1: for backing up Wyoming BHA and super proud to say
Speaker 1: that here at Meat Eater we kicked in a bunch
Speaker 1: of cash and facilitated a bunch of cash through our
Speaker 1: land access initiative, and tons and tons of thanks to
Speaker 1: all of the folks in the Meat Eater world who
Speaker 1: contributed to that, because this is the result. Millions of
Speaker 1: acres of land formerly corner locked have now been unlocked
Speaker 1: through common sense. That just took a long time to
Speaker 1: get to it. Yeah, what'd you think of my rundown corn?
Speaker 2: I thought that was great, especially yeah, that it's ten
Speaker 2: circuit court jurisdiction. When I first saw that, I was
Speaker 2: just wondering when I first saw the headline what states
Speaker 2: it applies to. But you know, that's the power of precedent.
Speaker 2: It might be a deterrent for you know, people to
Speaker 2: potentially bring lawsuits if this were to happen in other states. Yeah,
Speaker 2: outside of tenh circuit jurisdiction.
Speaker 1: Speaking with the legal team, one piece of insider info
Speaker 1: was the judge that we got does not like us
Speaker 1: and so for this judgment to come out of that judge,
Speaker 1: they were super super stoked.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Great, Yeah, so that was really cool. All right. Next
Speaker 1: big piece of news that affects all of us is
Speaker 1: the Interior Department Secretary Burgham and hud led by Secretary
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, where's my notes here, Scott Turner. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of acronyms here, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to get through this really quick, uh joint statement, okay.
Speaker 1: And and resources or your sources in general are very
Speaker 1: important here. So a tool that I've been using lately
Speaker 1: is the Federal Register. Okay. So anything that happens with
Speaker 1: our federal government, it's supposed to be transparent. So there's
Speaker 1: documentation on the Federal Register every single day of all
Speaker 1: of this stuff. That is the source material. Okay. There
Speaker 1: may be a little bias and interpretation on my part
Speaker 1: here and there, but that's why you should get off
Speaker 1: your butts and go read it for yourself, the Federal Register.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: And this is a statement out of the Department of
Speaker 1: the Interior and out of the what is it, Housing Authority,
Speaker 1: Housing and Urban Development? Housing and urban Development. I just
Speaker 1: want to jump in really quickly for the very first
Speaker 1: time in radio life. Looks like we're having some some
Speaker 1: connection issues. I don't even know if you can hear
Speaker 1: us or see us right now. If that's the case,
Speaker 1: people listening to the podcast the next day, this will
Speaker 1: be you'll be able to hear everything perfectly fine. So,
Speaker 1: because it is the first time this has happened, I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen to the video, but
Speaker 1: I think we just just keep rolling on with the show,
Speaker 1: Cal because oh streamyard crash, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, my internet is down.
Speaker 5: Oh the whole the whole okay, great, Well for the
Speaker 5: podcast people, we're going to leave this in the You know,
Speaker 5: it looks like the internet crashed for the for the
Speaker 5: whole building.
Speaker 1: So that's great, fantastic, shouldn't.
Speaker 3: Be a big deal. No, Cal, why don't you just
Speaker 3: keep carrying on?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean no, I don't think we should now.
Speaker 5: I think we should figure out what's going on here.
Speaker 5: Wait until this comes back up.
Speaker 1: Are we back?
Speaker 3: Can you hear us?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Please?
Speaker 5: People in the live chat let me know if if
Speaker 5: we are back on. We had internet drop out for
Speaker 5: the whole building here.
Speaker 1: Jeff Widra has a great question. Did you unplug it
Speaker 1: and plug it back?
Speaker 3: Okay, yep, guys, this is an unprecedented technical error. Yeah,
Speaker 3: out of our hands.
Speaker 1: I see a bunch of you guys are pointing towards
Speaker 1: Elon Musk taking us down. You know, we can't confirm
Speaker 1: or deny that corner.
Speaker 2: Thanks boondogging.
Speaker 3: Well, let's get back to the old federal lands.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, sorry, so hopefully folks remember the Federal Register. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's it's the the daily documentation of what's going on
Speaker 1: in the government. That's the source material. Here. We had
Speaker 1: our Interior Secretary Doug Bergham, and why can't I remember
Speaker 1: Scott Turner's name? At the Housing and Urban Development they
Speaker 1: made a joint statement saying the Interior Department oversees more
Speaker 1: than five hundred million acres of federal land, much of
Speaker 1: it suitable for residential use. Streamlining the regulatory process is
Speaker 1: a cornerstone of this partnership. Historically, building on federal land
Speaker 1: is a nightmare of red tape, lengthy environmental reviews, complex
Speaker 1: transfer protocols, in disjointed agency priorities. This partnership will cut
Speaker 1: through the bureaucracy. Interior will reduce the red tape behind
Speaker 1: land transfers or leases to public housing authorities, nonprofits, and
Speaker 1: local governments. Housing and urban development will ensure these projects
Speaker 1: align with affordability goals and development needs. This isn't a
Speaker 1: free for all to build on federal lands, although we
Speaker 1: recognize that bad faith critics will likely call it that,
Speaker 1: it's a strategic effort to use our resources responsibly while
Speaker 1: preserving our most beautiful land. Well, a little trick for
Speaker 1: you when we talk about public speaking is you don't
Speaker 1: feed your audience the things that then spawn bad faith criticism,
Speaker 1: such as saying that much of five hundred million acres
Speaker 1: of public land is suitable for housing, or that you're
Speaker 1: going to remove the regulations such as environmental reviews and
Speaker 1: oversight which is currently happening, because that does create like
Speaker 1: a bad faith critic. Yes, and I'll just say, like
Speaker 1: I don't have a whole lot of faith here that
Speaker 1: what we've seen in the last two months is capable
Speaker 1: of making well thought out decisions, right. I'm referring, of
Speaker 1: course to the super metallic off brand Doge Chainsaw. What
Speaker 1: we need here is well thought out decision making. I
Speaker 1: was like visibly physically distraught and angry when this came
Speaker 1: out because I just do not like where this is heading.
Speaker 1: The reality, though, is that there has always been a
Speaker 1: process for selling federally managed land that's provided for in
Speaker 1: what is referred to as FLIPMA, which is Federal Land
Speaker 1: Policy Management Act, and there's a ceiling of twenty five
Speaker 1: hundred acres before Congress would have to be involved in
Speaker 1: the decision to release larger tracts of land. It's nice
Speaker 1: that the stuff's provided for. Everything is supposed to go
Speaker 1: through an environmental review called NIPA, which is the National
Speaker 1: Environmental Policy Act, came in in nineteen seventy. You know,
Speaker 1: like basically the seventies were this kind of point in
Speaker 1: time where people were like, oh my god, we've almost
Speaker 1: killed off things. Now we can bring them back. Notably
Speaker 1: at that time, like bald Eagles and DDT right, that
Speaker 1: was a government action and people could see the benefits
Speaker 1: of protecting the environment. I'm trying to wrap this up
Speaker 1: because I wrote like two thousand words on this, which
Speaker 1: I'll put in like the Cow's Week in Review podcasts.
Speaker 1: We can keep your all snappy here, but basically, we
Speaker 1: only have so much land will never be enough. Our
Speaker 1: population keeps rising. The idea that we're at some like
Speaker 1: a crazy critical mass and it just has to happen
Speaker 1: right now is total malarchy. It's super shortsighted. Yes, we
Speaker 1: need more affordable housing, and this land is so valuable
Speaker 1: if you actually think in the long term that these
Speaker 1: processes that we have in place from the Council of
Speaker 1: Environmental Quality, which is supposed to be the executive I
Speaker 1: don't know liaison for NEPA, they're supposed to be able
Speaker 1: to talk to the agencies say this is how NPA,
Speaker 1: which started out as a four page document four pages,
Speaker 1: which is pretty darn efficient in nineteen seventy, how that
Speaker 1: is supposed to be implemented, what's supposed to be taken
Speaker 1: into consideration, and then they tell the president what it
Speaker 1: is the CEQ NEPA. That's not something that says a
Speaker 1: project cannot happen. All it's supposed to say is here
Speaker 1: is what is at risk, here's what could happen to
Speaker 1: what is ever on the ground, and also here's what
Speaker 1: could happen if we did nothing. It's really an accountability
Speaker 1: exercise for the US government that says, here is our impact,
Speaker 1: this is what we knew when we took an action,
Speaker 1: we knew the possible implementation, the ramifications of our actions. Right,
Speaker 1: there's a great this is from you gotta listen to this.
Speaker 1: This is like the best best quote. This is nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy our government. Senator Henry Jackson state, it's mister President.
Speaker 1: It is my view that NEPA has passed by the
Speaker 1: Senate and now, as agreed upon by the Conference Committee,
Speaker 1: is the most important and far reaching environmental and conservation
Speaker 1: measure ever enacted by the Congress. NEPA is a congressional
Speaker 1: declaration that we do not intend, as a government or
Speaker 1: as people to initiate actions which endanger the continued existence
Speaker 1: or the health of mankind. That we will not initially
Speaker 1: initiate actions which will do irreparable damage to the air, land,
Speaker 1: and water which support life on earth. That was written
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy by our government. And what has happened, basically,
Speaker 1: to wrap this up in a tidy as nutshell as
Speaker 1: we can, we have a process for selling federally managed
Speaker 1: public lands. They're supposed to be looking for marginal lands
Speaker 1: that they determine to be marginal, of which I will
Speaker 1: be honest, like we do have chunks of lamb that
Speaker 1: are not providing like major ecological benefits, not beautiful habitat,
Speaker 1: you could make the case. And literally under the Biden administration,
Speaker 1: this happened. Under the first Trump administration, this happened, and
Speaker 1: it's happened prior to that, where we have made decisions
Speaker 1: to sell public land to municipalities, trade it to other entities.
Speaker 1: And some of that's happening right now. And they're like
Speaker 1: weird things that are like this is a chunk of
Speaker 1: grind that currently exists within an airport that is a
Speaker 1: federal chunk of ground right like it's it's fenced off
Speaker 1: jets land on the damn thing Like it's not of
Speaker 1: environmental you know, value to us. So there are things
Speaker 1: like that. What I am asking is that the controls
Speaker 1: that have been put in place to value these lands
Speaker 1: and value the impacts that we are going to have
Speaker 1: on these lands actually remain in place. However, the NEPA
Speaker 1: process is right now in a thirty day review to
Speaker 1: be rolled back CEQ right the administration that that is
Speaker 1: there to interpret NEPA, which can, by the way, already
Speaker 1: set carve outs within the process to make things super fast.
Speaker 1: And something that has been used many many times over
Speaker 1: many administrations. The new secretary or not secretarial order, but
Speaker 1: the new marching orders for CEQ are too basically do
Speaker 1: the NEPA thing. But keep in mind that we're going
Speaker 1: to cap you on time spending and if a entity
Speaker 1: that wants the land comes to you with their own review,
Speaker 1: that should be prioritized over the NEPA review, which is
Speaker 1: a little concerning to me because we are not making
Speaker 1: any more land. It's only going to be more valuable.
Speaker 1: Why sell it? Now? That's that's kind of my rant.
Speaker 1: I can go way way on and I will on
Speaker 1: my own podcast, not not for you good people. Phil.
Speaker 3: Should we go to Tidepool Tim? Now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do Tiple Tim first.
Speaker 5: Then how about we hit fake news after Tidepool.
Speaker 1: Let's do that sound good? Yeah, let's bring him in
Speaker 1: if you want to set that up. Cal Oh, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to Tidepool Tam right now. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: around at all, right, coming in from Cobbs Cook Bay,
Speaker 1: excited to learn how to really say that is Gopher
Speaker 1: Maine inks. Tim Sheam aka aka Tidepool Tam Timmy there, Hello,
Speaker 1: welcome to the show.
Speaker 6: Well, thanks for having me on today.
Speaker 7: It's kind of a cold, windy day here on the
Speaker 7: coast of Maine.
Speaker 6: We're way up the coast, right on the border.
Speaker 7: With Atlantic Canada, so I mean, I don't like to swim,
Speaker 7: but for about five miles as the crow flies across
Speaker 7: to the New Brunswick and then of course Nova Scotia
Speaker 7: and the Bay of Fundy.
Speaker 1: Well, according to TV and Stephen King and all the
Speaker 1: other things about Maine, it's always cold, gray and windy
Speaker 1: there it is.
Speaker 7: And we had hoped to join you guys at low tide,
Speaker 7: which was a couple hours ago, but right now we're
Speaker 7: about mid tide or so, and you can see behind
Speaker 7: me this huge tidal river that's flowing in and a
Speaker 7: lot of what we do here and my ability to
Speaker 7: have this marine supply business is because of all of
Speaker 7: this moving water and all the productivity and this amazing
Speaker 7: abundant ecosystem.
Speaker 6: So I'm excited to share that with you guys and
Speaker 6: you're listeners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you give us a quick breakdown of what
Speaker 1: Gulf of Maine is, what you guys do.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of a funny little business.
Speaker 7: I used to teach high school biology and at the
Speaker 7: time I had my summers off, of course, and I
Speaker 7: started to go down by the shore and pick up
Speaker 7: a little bit of seaweed here, and some starfish there,
Speaker 7: and some seashells, and.
Speaker 6: I thought, man, there's got to be markets for this stuff.
Speaker 7: And over the past twenty some years we have markets
Speaker 7: with cosmetic companies, with bait companies, with agricultural fertilizer companies,
Speaker 7: food ingredients, scientists, researchers, aquariums, and pretty much if you
Speaker 7: need anything from the ocean typle, Tim, I'm your guy
Speaker 7: good man to know that net it. You know, we're
Speaker 7: like the RCMP.
Speaker 3: We always get our man love it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: So what kinds of plants and creatures are you harvesting
Speaker 3: and or growing? Like, what are your some of your
Speaker 3: best sellers?
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, we do sell a lot of seaweed.
Speaker 7: And ever since COVID came on, you know, people were
Speaker 7: scared and hold up in their apartments and houses and
Speaker 7: freaking out where they're going to survive, And so a
Speaker 7: lot of people came to us looking for things like
Speaker 7: Irish moss to make sea moss gels and bladder rack
Speaker 7: and kelp. So that's certainly one of our main stays
Speaker 7: are seaweeds for human consumption. But the business started really
Speaker 7: on scientific specimens, and you know, it could be a
Speaker 7: teacher in Ohio that's got elementary class and she would
Speaker 7: just like some real live starfish.
Speaker 6: To share with her students.
Speaker 7: So we put them in a box with some water,
Speaker 7: some oxygen and FedEx or ups overnight. So a lot
Speaker 7: of marine organisms. They could be hermit crabs, they might
Speaker 7: be sea urchins. We go out and net up plankton,
Speaker 7: you know, the stuff that whales and filter feeders eat,
Speaker 7: and we sell that by the gallon. One of our
Speaker 7: biggest and probably the hottest selling item right now are
Speaker 7: our fishing worms and our marine baths, specifically blood worms,
Speaker 7: and we're shipping these dtc all around the country, great
Speaker 7: big worms as thick as a sharpie and twelve inches
Speaker 7: sixteen inches long sometimes. So this time of year, everyone
Speaker 7: and their brothers going fishing, and we're getting calls, you know,
Speaker 7: every five minutes and orders from the website.
Speaker 2: I was on your site looking at the things that
Speaker 2: you have for for us to snack on, and I
Speaker 2: came across limpets or limp pets is it limpets limpets,
Speaker 2: and I have i'd not known what they were called.
Speaker 2: I think that I ate those in France a number
Speaker 2: of years ago. Would that would those be the same species?
Speaker 2: And can you just describe for our audience what they are?
Speaker 2: They look kind of like the the little hats that
Speaker 2: rice farmers in Asia wear to me if that visual
Speaker 2: makes sense?
Speaker 7: And yeah, they're they're really If you're ever eaten, avaloni
Speaker 7: is essentially a malis or type clam if you will,
Speaker 7: that only has one shell, and they stick to a
Speaker 7: hard surface such as a rock, a shell and other organism.
Speaker 7: And what they do is they are they're going along
Speaker 7: the rock and they're eating the seaweed, the algae.
Speaker 6: And you know what, if you want to eat an.
Speaker 7: Oyster, there's two shells. You're sticking the oyster knife and open.
Speaker 7: Imagine half an oyster always open. You just have to
Speaker 7: peel it off the rock. So these limpus might be
Speaker 7: the size of a quarter down to I mean, this
Speaker 7: morning we filmed some that were the size of popcorn kernels.
Speaker 7: But inside is that fleshy foot, their gill, their gonad
Speaker 7: and a really tasty, salty, griny little tidbit. So I'm
Speaker 7: sure I don't think it, probably in France if they
Speaker 7: were the same species, but certainly would be in the
Speaker 7: same family.
Speaker 2: And then also I noticed the sea cucumbers. Who's who's
Speaker 2: buying those? And then for you, how do you like
Speaker 2: to eat or prepare those? I know some folks in
Speaker 2: the office when they harvest sea cucumbers in Alaska, they'll
Speaker 2: scrape off the kind of slimy outside and then do
Speaker 2: them like clam strips. But in other parts of the
Speaker 2: world you kind of eat the whole thing.
Speaker 6: So how do you do it?
Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of our customers from Asia want sea cucumbers,
Speaker 7: sea urchins, some of the snails we have, but with
Speaker 7: a cucumber, imagine a pickle. That's what the local fishermen
Speaker 7: call them. And we have some who some fishermen who
Speaker 7: drag them, and some who actually scuba dive for them.
Speaker 7: But they you cut each end of the pickle off,
Speaker 7: if you will, slit it up the middle, open it.
Speaker 6: And this is an invertebrate.
Speaker 7: It has no skeleton, right, so it has a very thick,
Speaker 7: tough skin, and in the absence of a skeleton, the
Speaker 7: muscles inside are pulling against.
Speaker 6: This tough skin, and that's what allows them to move.
Speaker 7: But they're related to cucumber, I mean to starfish and
Speaker 7: urchins and sand dollars. They're in the kino dirm family,
Speaker 7: and all that's in there is like the most big
Speaker 7: basic organism. In fact, sometimes I think, man, you're nothing
Speaker 7: but a gut a gonet, And I think, if you
Speaker 7: think of it, that's what a cucumber is. On one end,
Speaker 7: it has a feeding apparatus. On the other end, it's
Speaker 7: excreting its wat and then inside is that thin sheet
Speaker 7: of muscle that kind of reminds me of like a
Speaker 7: kid's raspberry fruit roll up. So when we open, you
Speaker 7: have to scrape off this thin sheet of meat and
Speaker 7: so tip them.
Speaker 6: That sheet of muscle is pulling on the skin. It
Speaker 6: curls up.
Speaker 7: Totally like a fruit roll up automatically because there's nothing
Speaker 7: to pull against. And then you you know, you could
Speaker 7: cook that saute that like anything, but it's really crunchy.
Speaker 7: It's kind of like if you were in my mind's
Speaker 7: when we've eaten it and our kids have eaten it,
Speaker 7: it's it's almost like you're chewing on cartilage. It really
Speaker 7: kind of pops in your teeth, and then the skin
Speaker 7: itself is boiled and dried and then shredded up and served,
Speaker 7: you know, like on a on top of a seaweed salad.
Speaker 7: And we've never actually eaten much of the skin, but
Speaker 7: it's a very tough organism.
Speaker 1: Did you ever describe some of your biology students in
Speaker 1: the same manner? Just just a mouth.
Speaker 6: Tenth graders, right, you're nothing but a gut and a goat.
Speaker 7: They like that. In fact, years ago, I tried to
Speaker 7: convince my wife uh to allow or decide on the
Speaker 7: the first name Nad for one of our children.
Speaker 6: Can you imagine if they're an athlete, go ned go nag.
Speaker 7: Go nads and they're like, mister she and you gotta
Speaker 7: do that, you gotta do that.
Speaker 6: But it never came to fruition.
Speaker 1: So oh, I love it. I love it. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: what what's the like, the favorite thing? What what is
Speaker 1: in in the tidepool? Tim world?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's the favorite critter to go after?
Speaker 6: For meat eaters? But our top product really is Irish moss.
Speaker 7: It's a short red marine algae that has carrageening in it,
Speaker 7: which is a natural thickening agent. And you've probably heard
Speaker 7: of this in your supermarket or maybe natural food store,
Speaker 7: but sea moss and sea moss jaw. A lot of people,
Speaker 7: especially in North America, are getting onto eating seaweeds as.
Speaker 6: A regular part of their diet.
Speaker 7: So we go out actually in this bay here at
Speaker 7: very low tide, and here's this red fuzz growing along
Speaker 7: the rocks, and we use cutters to cut it off,
Speaker 7: We rinse it out, We bring it back to our
Speaker 7: base into a greenhouse, spread it out on tables and
Speaker 7: dry it out.
Speaker 6: And when we're shipping it to our customers.
Speaker 7: It's used typically a half pound or a pound of
Speaker 7: this dried so the home consumer will take it, put
Speaker 7: it in a VitaminX or a blender with a little
Speaker 7: bit of water, some lemon or lime juice and just kind.
Speaker 6: Of pulse it a little bit, and it's the coolest thing.
Speaker 6: The seaweed.
Speaker 7: It's liquid turns into a liquid and then immediately immediately
Speaker 7: just gels up like putt it and it has a
Speaker 7: beautiful red pink color to it. Coolah or irish moss
Speaker 7: that we have here in the industry is called purple
Speaker 7: sea moss, and a lot of the moss that's out
Speaker 7: on the market comes from like the Caribbean type areas
Speaker 7: and they have a golden colored sea moss, but the
Speaker 7: same thing you have a seaweed or a marine algae
Speaker 7: carrageenon in it.
Speaker 6: And our customers swear by having a tablespoon.
Speaker 7: Of this gel in their regular smoothie or in their
Speaker 7: soup or whatever they're they're cooking every day.
Speaker 6: And I mean, it's the weirdest product.
Speaker 7: Once again, it kind of hit us around COVID because
Speaker 7: I when the kids were young, I made a YouTube
Speaker 7: video for my YouTube channel about Irish moth and all
Speaker 7: these new customers kept calling, Hey, I watch your video.
Speaker 7: I want some of this moth, you know, I want
Speaker 7: to save my life. And uh, people call and they're crying.
Speaker 7: People are sharing this moss with their whole their whole church,
Speaker 7: their neighbors.
Speaker 6: People calling and saying they secured them of skin problems. Uh.
Speaker 7: COVID like everything under the side, like securely so uh
Speaker 7: and that's a lot of anecdotal kind of stuff. But
Speaker 7: people swear by the effects of eating this Irish moss,
Speaker 7: And really that's our number one and product right now.
Speaker 6: Cool are our fishing worms are blood worms?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I like I like the balance their
Speaker 1: health and beauty and blood worms. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well
Speaker 1: I know where Eileen personally.
Speaker 7: The we have so many categories of products, you know,
Speaker 7: bait and fertilizer and food and and science and research
Speaker 7: and that it just makes for a really fun day
Speaker 7: because each morning I get on my laptop and I
Speaker 7: look at my orders and I go, oh, geez, I
Speaker 7: gotta go, you know, pick five pounds of moss and
Speaker 7: they need to run over here and pull these traps
Speaker 7: to get twelve hermit crabs. And then I'm gonna run
Speaker 7: to this other dock and get some cn M and e's.
Speaker 7: So it's really you know, uh, in terms of what
Speaker 7: we've created with Gulf of Maine, it's it's just like
Speaker 7: an every day is a holiday. It's always fun, it's
Speaker 7: always exciting, and then we're able to populate our Instagram
Speaker 7: with all kinds of amazing content every day.
Speaker 6: It's always fresh. It could be a dead seal washed
Speaker 6: up on the beach.
Speaker 7: It could be you know, some bald eagles fighting over
Speaker 7: a dead eel on the rock weed.
Speaker 6: It's just so much variety.
Speaker 7: And you know, we hunt, we fish, we forage, we
Speaker 7: eat mushrooms, we eat seaweeds.
Speaker 6: You know, it's really kind of a fun way to
Speaker 6: raise our kids.
Speaker 7: And to just go about each and every day.
Speaker 6: And we're making really good money.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's amazing how this stuff that's just lying
Speaker 7: around here in this bay.
Speaker 6: You know, this is our virtual warehouse, if you will.
Speaker 7: And every day, whether it's twenty below zero or it's
Speaker 7: seventy degrees out, I gotta be out here picking and
Speaker 7: collecting and sort of sending these boxes out all across
Speaker 7: mostly North America, but sometimes into Europe.
Speaker 1: Do you have internships available.
Speaker 7: In the summertime? And we just we don't put out
Speaker 7: anything formal. We kind of wait for motivated students to
Speaker 7: get a hold of us and say, hey, I'd like
Speaker 7: to come and hang out with you guys.
Speaker 6: What do you got?
Speaker 7: You know, And we've had students from all around the
Speaker 7: country com So if there's any listeners looking for a
Speaker 7: fun uh you know, variety field summer, hit us up
Speaker 7: at Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, Tim, Tim, thanks for joining us. Can you tell
Speaker 3: quickly if folks want to learn more about Golf of
Speaker 3: Maine where they can find you. Yeah, I mean, we have.
Speaker 7: A great website and you can order all of our products.
Speaker 7: It's Golf of Me dot com.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: We have a nice Instagram for typool Tim, and also
Speaker 7: at golf of Me for the business, and then we
Speaker 7: have some TikTok postings and also my YouTube channel. So yeah,
Speaker 7: all kinds of good stuff there, some of it crazy, uh,
Speaker 7: some got some gonads and uh a.
Speaker 6: Whole lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Sounds perfect.
Speaker 1: Heck yeah, well thank you so much.
Speaker 6: Dam thanks Tim.
Speaker 2: See, I think I'm going to order myself some c
Speaker 2: cucumbers and olympits that special mom.
Speaker 3: Get some blood worms up in here.
Speaker 1: You have to do some dead drifting.
Speaker 3: M hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. We're gonna be stealhead beta guarantee it.
Speaker 2: I love how I go for the health and beauty
Speaker 2: and snacks and you guys go for the bait.
Speaker 1: I would definitely get a supply of good seaweed too,
Speaker 1: for making poke and all that good stuff. Yeah, game,
Speaker 1: what do you want to do? You want to go
Speaker 1: do Randall's segment of fake News's fake news? How dare
Speaker 1: you fake news? Or do you want to do listener
Speaker 1: feet Let's do.
Speaker 3: Fake news tape and bushop take balloon at a better
Speaker 3: shot than don this? So wh is that?
Speaker 1: So this opportunity comes once for.
Speaker 4: A few weeks, you can do anything you set your
Speaker 4: minds to.
Speaker 3: Guys. Oh, my gosh, yes, beautiful Phil.
Speaker 1: Give it up for Phil.
Speaker 3: So, in this segment of fake news, I'm going to
Speaker 3: share a selectively edited hunting or fishing related headline from
Speaker 3: the news while Cal and Karin attempt to fill in
Speaker 3: the blank with the multiple choice options. Only one of
Speaker 3: your choices is true. According to this news article, Phil,
Speaker 3: it's hit him with number one here French hunter eighty
Speaker 3: one on trial for killing endangered blank? Is it an
Speaker 3: endangered lynx, an endangered duck, an endangered frog or an
Speaker 3: endangered bear? Oh? Got a little sound effect too. I
Speaker 3: think this segment is shaping up nicely, Philed.
Speaker 1: It's coming together.
Speaker 2: At the same time.
Speaker 3: Whenever you're ready. Whenever you're ready, c frog, d We
Speaker 3: have our answers, frog and bear. One of you got
Speaker 3: it right. The answer is bear. Oh. The headline reads
Speaker 3: French hunter eighty one on trial for killing endangered that
Speaker 3: attacked him. This was reported by The Guardian Andre Rives
Speaker 3: assumes how you pronounce it was boar hunting in the
Speaker 3: Pyrenees Mountains when a female bear named Caramelis attacked him.
Speaker 3: He surprisingly encountered the cubs and was then charged and
Speaker 3: dragged by the bear by his leg before he shot it.
Speaker 3: He sustained injuries and had to be evacuated by helicopter.
Speaker 3: An investigation revealed that the bear was killed four hundred
Speaker 3: meters that's thirteen hundred feet for those of US stateside,
Speaker 3: outside of an authorized hunting area and in a nature reserve.
Speaker 3: Fifteen of their hunters, who also took part in the
Speaker 3: hunt are being prosecuted for various offenses, including hunting in
Speaker 3: the Montevalier Nature Reserve, one of the oldest reserves in
Speaker 3: the Pyrenees. The hunters argued that the boundaries of the
Speaker 3: reserve were poorly marked.
Speaker 2: I thought that this uh, elderly elder gentleman was going
Speaker 2: after some prized frog legs. No, and they were going
Speaker 2: to make a big deal out of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're so racially by us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think on the.
Speaker 2: French part there, that was that I fell for the trick. Answer, well,
Speaker 2: very good, Randall.
Speaker 1: Eighty one man attack. Was it a grizzly bear?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe it's a brown bear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so cool, so cool. Yeah, most people don't
Speaker 1: know brown bears in Europe. Like spitting distance from major
Speaker 1: tourist attractions, which is so cool, so cool. But I
Speaker 1: want to be eighty one and be able to be
Speaker 1: attacked by a bear and drug and still I can
Speaker 1: shoot it.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and.
Speaker 1: Then then get a flight out of there. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: getting ticketed and yeah, heart old man.
Speaker 3: Phil, let's hit this second one. Blank responds to a
Speaker 3: story of pet deer being taken by the Pennsylvania Game Commission?
Speaker 3: Is it Ted Nugent, Elon Musk, Ellen DeGeneres or Joe
Speaker 3: Rogan Cash is responding to the story of a pet
Speaker 3: deer being taken by the Pennsylvania Game Commission.
Speaker 1: It's a trick question. It's e all of the above.
Speaker 3: Well, this is specific to one article that I found
Speaker 3: on the internet that may well be true, but we're
Speaker 3: going with the article.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Teddy Nuggets. Yeah, motor
Speaker 1: City mad man.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pet Okay, I could see that too. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna lean.
Speaker 3: To Ellen, Ellen and Ted. I'm afraid neither one of
Speaker 3: you got it right here. He's a busy man. Elon Musk.
Speaker 3: This story comes to us from PennLive dot com. Elon
Speaker 3: Musk responds to story of pet deer being taken by
Speaker 3: the Pennsylvania Game Commission. A sixty four year old woman
Speaker 3: was arrested back in February for interfering with the Pennsylvania
Speaker 3: Commission Game Commission authorities as they attempted to take away
Speaker 3: a pet deer named Baby. Baby was a wild born deer,
Speaker 3: which made it illegal to keep as a pet, and
Speaker 3: had been castrated and wore a dog collar. Baby's owner,
Speaker 3: Tammy Sheery, refused to allow entry to the police when
Speaker 3: they arrived with a lawful search warrant. Elon Musk, the
Speaker 3: head of Tesla SpaceX and the Department of Government Efficiency quote,
Speaker 3: tweeted a story about this incident, recently adding his own
Speaker 3: thoughts quote, the authorities need to stop doing this end quote.
Speaker 3: His tweet kicked off a ship storm on social media,
Speaker 3: with many users using the hashtag save Baby, and they
Speaker 3: shared the video of the deer being forcibly led away
Speaker 3: from its enclosure. Real sad stuff. Oh oh, busy guy.
Speaker 1: The humanity. They need to stop doing this. Why I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: Cameras? Yeah, all right, still one nothing. Col Phil hit
Speaker 3: us with a third headline, police say reported swimmer in
Speaker 3: distress turned out to be blank. Is it duck? Hunters, seals,
Speaker 3: geese or spear fishermen. Oh what were these purported reported
Speaker 3: swimmers in distress?
Speaker 1: Probably yeah, I'm even go the go.
Speaker 3: D Cal's go and d Corinsey and b man blanked
Speaker 3: you again here the answer is geese. This story comes
Speaker 3: to us from New Zealand. Police and a rescue squad
Speaker 3: responded to a report about two swimmers in distress near
Speaker 3: Ferguson Park in Touranga, New Zealand. Helicopter and Coast Guard
Speaker 3: cruise searched the area for forty five minutes before the
Speaker 3: police gave the call to stand down. A police representative
Speaker 3: later stated that the search was called off when the
Speaker 3: reported struggling swimmers quote turned out to be geese. Nonetheless,
Speaker 3: the people who mistook the birds for people did the
Speaker 3: right thing by making the report. Well, guys, it's tough round.
Speaker 3: We've got one more question here. Let's see if Karin
Speaker 3: can tie it at one's gonna run away with this victory.
Speaker 1: It's a good thing I can't get negative points.
Speaker 2: I think my performance on this game is kind of
Speaker 2: like trivia. I wonder which one's worse.
Speaker 3: Well, this is just nonsense. So a man went deer
Speaker 3: hunting and accidentally stumbled upon blank. Is it a mammoth tusk,
Speaker 3: stolen cash, a murder victim, or a World War Two
Speaker 3: era aircraft?
Speaker 1: I personally have done d M.
Speaker 2: What yeah this article about you?
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna go a see a murder victim.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think I was leaning toward be stolen cash,
Speaker 2: B and C.
Speaker 3: Or these your final answers blanked again. It's a mammoth tusk.
Speaker 1: Oh, I forgot to get a screenshot of this one.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's like iowall picture.
Speaker 1: Oh, Texas.
Speaker 3: This one comes just from Popular Mechanics. A hunter at
Speaker 3: the two Ranch in Texas near Big Ben National Park
Speaker 3: came across a strange fossil like rock in the drainage
Speaker 3: area of a creek bed and took a photo of
Speaker 3: his phone. He then showed it to the ranch manager,
Speaker 3: who contacted researchers to come take a look. Turns out
Speaker 3: it was a single mammoth tusk isolated from the rest
Speaker 3: of the skeleton. After two days of plaster casting that tusk,
Speaker 3: researchers removed it for transportation to soul Ross State University
Speaker 3: in Alpine. And I wish we had an image of that,
Speaker 3: because darn it was a good looking tusk. Next time,
Speaker 3: really blew it?
Speaker 1: Next time, that's a real dream, real dream. Find we
Speaker 1: fella like me? Do we want to jump over to listener?
Speaker 1: A f You have only got a couple real quick.
Speaker 1: We're running late a couple of games. What do you
Speaker 1: have to get to?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm I don't know. I mean I don't have to.
Speaker 1: Do Should we just go on until five o'clock?
Speaker 2: Ye?
Speaker 1: Like, who's stopping us? Anything else?
Speaker 3: Questions here?
Speaker 5: Nick Corinn. Nick needs some details about your wad ad
Speaker 5: Hunt next month. Will it be filmed?
Speaker 2: Oh, well, our colleague Cory uh is going to be
Speaker 2: along with myself and my boyfriend and he will be filming. He'll,
Speaker 2: he'll we'll probably do a go pro and a little
Speaker 2: bit of social media stuff, so some of it will
Speaker 2: be filmed. It will not be an entire episode. It
Speaker 2: started out as a personal trip, and as these things go,
Speaker 2: the line between my work life and personal life is
Speaker 2: kind of super blurred.
Speaker 1: So I was gonna say it doesn't sound like Cory
Speaker 1: knows what he's getting into.
Speaker 2: So we're going to be in in West Texas, close
Speaker 2: to El Paso, on on a ranch owned by the
Speaker 2: University of Texas, El Paso. It's a research facility there.
Speaker 2: That's all I'll say for now. Hopefully we all the
Speaker 2: three of us get one.
Speaker 1: It's also where mcgruber played tight end. A lot of
Speaker 1: people don't know that, Phil.
Speaker 5: What you got question for doctor Randall from Michael? In
Speaker 5: addition to the Long Hunter's audio book, what are some
Speaker 5: other good books about Daniel Boone?
Speaker 3: Well, you've covered the essential source there, nice, So I
Speaker 3: will add Robert Morgan's biography Boone. And then there's a
Speaker 3: book called My Father Nathan Boone. That was It's based
Speaker 3: on interviews with Boone's son, taken by Lyman Draper and
Speaker 3: then organized into a book and published by Ted Franklin.
Speaker 3: Below that, I'll get you going. How's that? Phil?
Speaker 1: That was perfect man who knows his sources? Jack?
Speaker 5: Ask Cal what are some things Easterners can do to
Speaker 5: help protect Western public lands other than joining conservation organizations?
Speaker 1: Oh? Jack, Well, first of all, these are your public lands,
Speaker 1: just like us. Westerners consider them our public lands, just
Speaker 1: as Democrats, Republicans, independents, all the colors of the rainbow.
Speaker 1: It's your public lands. So yes, joining conservation groups so
Speaker 1: they can point to your membership as somebody that they
Speaker 1: are representing is very helpful, but at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you have got to notify your elected officials
Speaker 1: of your interests, needs, and wants. Right and again, like
Speaker 1: we've been saying very consistency consistently over the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, you can say, hey, love what's going on
Speaker 1: over here, but this stuff over here has me super
Speaker 1: freaked out. I do not like it. I love public Lands,
Speaker 1: I understand the value that they bring to all of
Speaker 1: us Americans, and I need them protected, not broken up.
Speaker 1: Something simple like that. We're all in this together, buddy, fantastic, awesome, Phil,
Speaker 1: What you got?
Speaker 5: Oh, we've got a few more, but we've got a
Speaker 5: good friend and colleague in the waiting room. I think
Speaker 5: we'll hit some of these at the end of the show.
Speaker 5: And you guys want to submit some more questions, send
Speaker 5: them my way and maybe we'll answer them at the
Speaker 5: end of the show.
Speaker 1: Excellentt all right, Yeah, thank you for the questions. And
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a lot more questions about this, which
Speaker 1: I think is the point. It's gonna wake you up
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. It's a real who
Speaker 1: done it? It's a murder mystery brought to you by
Speaker 1: me Eater's own Jordan Sellers. Jordan, are you with us?
Speaker 3: Jordan, welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Can you hear me?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sound great. What have you been working on?
Speaker 4: Oh man, Well, exactly what you said. Last year, I
Speaker 4: was contacted by a guy who told me about a
Speaker 4: murder that took place in two thousand and three in Virginia.
Speaker 4: This murder was of a Turkey hunter named David Stack.
Speaker 4: He was forty four years old at the time, and
Speaker 4: they never figured out who did it. And so I've
Speaker 4: been looking into this for about a year now. It's
Speaker 4: been pretty close and put everything together into a single
Speaker 4: episode of a podcast that we're going to release next
Speaker 4: week during Turkey Week. So really excited to share that
Speaker 4: with everyone. Hopefully we can get I don't know, hopefully
Speaker 4: we can get some new leads in this case, because
Speaker 4: it's been a long time since anything's happened.
Speaker 2: Can you tell us some details without giving too much away?
Speaker 4: Yes. So one of the big questions about this case
Speaker 4: is whether or not the person who committed the homicide
Speaker 4: knew what they had done, and so there's some evidence
Speaker 4: at the scene to suggest that this person actually walked
Speaker 4: up to David Body and removed his face mask to
Speaker 4: see who it was and then walked away and never
Speaker 4: has never come forward, has never told anyone what happened.
Speaker 4: There's some controversy about some other evidence at the scene,
Speaker 4: a cigarette butt, for example. There is some suspicious there
Speaker 4: was some suspicious interactions with neighbors that we get into
Speaker 4: quite a bit. You can imagine, you know, the neighbors
Speaker 4: are who you're going to look into. First. It was
Speaker 4: on about one hundred and ninety acres in western central Virginia,
Speaker 4: so there were some neighbors around other turkey hunters. There
Speaker 4: were some pretty suspicious things that happened with the neighbors.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot to dig into. It's just a
Speaker 4: single episode, so you know, we're not going to do
Speaker 4: a whole season on this one's story, but there is
Speaker 4: a lot there to talk about for sure.
Speaker 1: Heck yeah, and the title is Blood Trails, a Turkey
Speaker 1: Woods Cold Case.
Speaker 4: That's right. Yeah?
Speaker 1: And when when does this drop? Jordan?
Speaker 4: I believe next Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Yep, it'll be the Tuesday of Turkey.
Speaker 1: Week and we're putting it out on what feed it's.
Speaker 2: Going to be on this feed the Meat Eater podcast feed,
Speaker 2: So it'll come, Yeah, it'll come on Tuesday. And Jordan
Speaker 2: also interviewed our colleague Brent Reeves, who is former law
Speaker 2: enforcement and so I guess you guys went into a
Speaker 2: little bit of kind of analysis of what we do
Speaker 2: know and what we don't know.
Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, that's right for those who don't know. Brent
Speaker 4: was in law enforcement for a long time, over thirty years,
Speaker 4: and so his perspective was really important for this story.
Speaker 4: The Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources, the wildlife agency there
Speaker 4: is responsible for investigating this case, but they were pretty
Speaker 4: hesitant to say anything, and we talk a bit about that.
Speaker 4: But it was important, I think, to get that law
Speaker 4: enforcement perspective. You know, what are the sort of standard
Speaker 4: procedures for a case like this. You find someone's body
Speaker 4: in the woods, what do you do over the next
Speaker 4: forty eight hours, over the next week. So we covered
Speaker 4: that and then just getting a little bit more information
Speaker 4: about why the agency was hesitant to talk with us
Speaker 4: to give us a lot of information. So Brent's perspective
Speaker 4: was super helpful and he brought, you know, his usual
Speaker 4: good natured humor to that discussion. So that's that's in
Speaker 4: there as well.
Speaker 3: And can we listen to his magnificent voice on this podcast?
Speaker 3: Oh wonderful, Yes.
Speaker 4: Yes we can. It's it's it's a big chunk of
Speaker 4: the podcast. Actually, so very that's a that's a big plus.
Speaker 1: Heck yeah, well yeah, we'll be looking forward to that
Speaker 1: on Turkey Week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tuesday, you guys should all tune in and write
Speaker 2: a about what you think. It's our first venture into
Speaker 2: the true crime genre thanks to Jordan's work in real
Speaker 2: journalism and investigation over the past year, and.
Speaker 1: Were very unusual. If you solve this, it will be
Speaker 1: the only murder mystery podcast true crime genre where conservation
Speaker 1: always went exactly. We'll give you five hundred dollars donated
Speaker 1: to the conservation group of your choice.
Speaker 3: Jordan, Are you Are you hooked now? As a as ant,
Speaker 3: I assume this is your first murder investigation. Are you
Speaker 3: hooked now in the I mean, what was that like
Speaker 3: for you? Because obviously you're talking to people that are
Speaker 3: still like involved in the I mean family and people
Speaker 3: in that area. What was that like for you?
Speaker 2: Question?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I talked with so. The person who
Speaker 4: initially contacted us is a guy named Kenny, and he
Speaker 4: was one of David's really good friends. So I talked
Speaker 4: with him. I talked with David's son, who was there
Speaker 4: that morning. I talked with David's brother who was also
Speaker 4: there hunting, and I talked with David's wife. So yeah,
Speaker 4: it was it was a an interesting experience, a humbling
Speaker 4: experience to talk with these people, who, I mean, are
Speaker 4: really brave in my opinion. You know this, this happened
Speaker 4: over twenty years ago, and and I'm asking them to
Speaker 4: dredge these these things up, dredge up these emotions that
Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure they would rather not think about
Speaker 4: that much, but they care about their their dad, their friend,
Speaker 4: their their husband. They want to know what happened. They
Speaker 4: want to know who did this, and so they're willing
Speaker 4: to go through that to to tell us a bit
Speaker 4: more about what happened. So yeah, it was a really
Speaker 4: interesting experience. And you know, we'll see, hopefully we can
Speaker 4: we can do a few more of these if if
Speaker 4: the audience likes them.
Speaker 1: Hmm heck, yeah, sounds like good powerful journalism. I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to listening to it. And yeah, please write in
Speaker 1: and let us know what you think.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much.
Speaker 1: Jordan, Thank you, Jordan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: All right, tamer, are we feeling hungry? I think so?
Speaker 1: Do you want to go to the meat Eater menu?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, bacon taste good, thank you.
Speaker 6: Swre rap may tastes like punkin pine, but I never
Speaker 6: know because I wouldn't eat the filthy up.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love it. Okay. This is the segment Meat
Speaker 1: Eater Menu where we talk about things that we've cooked.
Speaker 1: I believe did Karen and I share the only here?
Speaker 3: Hold on, let me uh, let me send out a
Speaker 3: let me send out a quick text here part of
Speaker 3: my part of my presentation here. So I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: into a little dish we cooked up this week by
Speaker 3: way of a bison hunt that took place in January,
Speaker 3: and my wife, Sidney, was fortunate enough to shoot this
Speaker 3: year and a half ling cow on American Prairie part
Speaker 3: of the American Prairie Harvest Program, and it was just
Speaker 3: a phenomenal experience. Phil next slide. Our first dish that
Speaker 3: we made out of this was a tartar the raw
Speaker 3: egg out of the Danielle Pruitt cookbook. Just a delightful
Speaker 3: little dish. Really enjoyed that we used a piece of
Speaker 3: loin and whipped that up like the day or two
Speaker 3: after the hunt.
Speaker 2: It looks beautiful. It looks like a cake. It's like
Speaker 2: in a mold and.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.
Speaker 1: And then next slide, please, I'm sorry, craid, what are
Speaker 1: you reacting to?
Speaker 3: Hold on, Phil, along for the ride.
Speaker 6: Something.
Speaker 3: We've also just done.
Speaker 1: Some pretty standard steaks.
Speaker 3: I liked this steak. It I thought I cooked it well,
Speaker 3: so I just shared that photo. Next slide, please, Phil,
Speaker 3: That's what it looked like. Ill plate it up. That's
Speaker 3: a pretty standard preparation for us at home. Next next slide,
Speaker 3: we did some ribs. Col was over for this, as
Speaker 3: was Cal's mom and Pat and Col's aunt and her friend,
Speaker 3: and we had a little dinner party the eight of us.
Speaker 3: Next slides, please film. So we we diced up those
Speaker 3: ribs and made a big old tray of ribs. Now, finally,
Speaker 3: this week, in honor of Saint Patrick's Day, Phil, next slide, please,
Speaker 3: made a little cottage pie and some soda bread, and
Speaker 3: our good friend friend of the program, Chili, brought in
Speaker 3: a hot plate of cottage pie.
Speaker 1: For everybody to try it.
Speaker 3: Here, so little dish of awesome peas and carrot and
Speaker 3: some potatoes layered on top, and the real trick here
Speaker 3: the the thank you Chili. I appreciate that he's been
Speaker 3: sitting by the microwave for a good fifty minutes, so
Speaker 3: you're a good man.
Speaker 2: Oh I love it. We all best not be sick,
Speaker 2: because we're going to be sharing that fork there.
Speaker 3: I've left four forks out there. Yeah, yeah, I'm counting
Speaker 3: film the secret ingredient cow. Do you know what it
Speaker 3: is here?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Goodness, that looks so good here, I'm just going to
Speaker 2: use his fork.
Speaker 3: That is bison Chriso in there. Oh, rather than burger,
Speaker 3: it's Chriso in the cottage pie.
Speaker 2: Did you make that? Or did Anna.
Speaker 3: Anna Borgman cast Farms made the Chriso? Oh lovely, Sydney
Speaker 3: made the cottage pie and the soda bread. So really
Speaker 3: I have no hand in this whatsoever.
Speaker 1: That's real good. Oh is that the Spanish Teresa?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, that's really tasty.
Speaker 3: Yep, thank you, thank you Chili. Art handsome and helpful.
Speaker 3: That's so good.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wander over here.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's oh and then Phil, if you hit the next.
Speaker 1: Slide, oh sure, yeah, hold on a seing.
Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, we're doing this a little chaotic here, that's
Speaker 3: what it looked like. Sydney didn't like that picture because
Speaker 3: it has the uh, the takeout container, and she said,
Speaker 3: it looks like we didn't make the food. But that's
Speaker 3: actually a takeout container with some pastries in it.
Speaker 1: I'll just let go.
Speaker 3: Karen has taken control of the cottage.
Speaker 5: Well here, this is actually convenient. Is one of the
Speaker 5: questions Kyle asked, was he he wanted to know what's
Speaker 5: for lunch? Yeah, so there we are a large piece
Speaker 5: of Now you can watch us eat on camera.
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, you can.
Speaker 3: Get after that. Sish and Cal thought, I didn't prepare
Speaker 3: anything for Meat Eater menu. That's just a whole story
Speaker 3: leading up to a tasty little dish that you can
Speaker 3: enjoy right here on Meat Eater Radio Live.
Speaker 2: It's got a lot of white pepper in it, and
Speaker 2: it's it's it's spicy. Oh my goodness, anything like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, the chresa was an accident. Sydney pulled out
Speaker 3: the wrong package. But I think it works quite nicely.
Speaker 1: Happy accident. And I grew up with a lot of
Speaker 1: mashed potato ground meat combos.
Speaker 3: So and used for frozen peas.
Speaker 1: Oh wonderful.
Speaker 2: I have to step up my cooking game. Nothing I've
Speaker 2: made tastes like that.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, guys, sorry we're now what you got?
Speaker 2: Uh it's it's a shame coming after that. I think
Speaker 2: the picture that I sent of the dish was after
Speaker 2: I had eaten most of it and then it was
Speaker 2: like in a little plastic tupperware container. So I think
Speaker 2: that was what last year about a year agoes hog
Speaker 2: and Texas. I don't know if that was my first
Speaker 2: or second Texas Hog down South in uh way down
Speaker 2: south in Texas, or if that was the one that
Speaker 2: we shot while podcasting. I can't remember. In any case,
Speaker 2: I cooked up There was a pack of it in
Speaker 2: the freezer for for a while and it just said
Speaker 2: trim trim for grind, but I really I didn't have
Speaker 2: a grinder. I didn't really want to do that with it.
Speaker 2: So when I defrosted, I noticed that it was like
Speaker 2: part of uh, part of part of the leg like
Speaker 2: what you do like uh aso buco with and so
Speaker 2: a lot of uh gelatine and tendon, and I just
Speaker 2: decided to kind of Asian poissen sauce soy sauce. Put
Speaker 2: a little bit of barbecue sauce in there. I thought,
Speaker 2: I just kind of do uh do like a stew
Speaker 2: saucy type dish and throw it over rice and just
Speaker 2: lots of onions. Threw it in the pressure cooker. And
Speaker 2: maybe there is a photo up there, but it looks
Speaker 2: honestly like that. That's what was left out of from
Speaker 2: it after I realized that I should have taken a photo.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't look fancy. It, you know, looked like
Speaker 2: a pile of uh meat. Yeah yeahatop in a little containers.
Speaker 2: Doesn't look so appetizing, but but it tasted.
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of my improv wild game
Speaker 3: dishes end up looking like that.
Speaker 1: Pressure cookers a ground tool utilized on a plate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great tool to utilize. Oh yeah, and then cal I
Speaker 1: can bring up I can bring up yours. Just give
Speaker 1: me give me one sec here. So I was explaining
Speaker 1: to Phil earlier that I don't know how many of
Speaker 1: you folks use Instagram reels ig, but I always have
Speaker 1: this like, oh, I'm gonna actually put something together here,
Speaker 1: and I have this epiphany of how with a little
Speaker 1: extra work I could make it really good. And that's
Speaker 1: the point at which I'm like, eh, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to do that. So, yeah, this is just your your
Speaker 1: you know, French dip, which it was a real staple
Speaker 1: growing up. You'd have like your pot roast one night,
Speaker 1: French dip the next night. Where Christmas time be like
Speaker 1: a prime rib type of deal. Your wild game meats
Speaker 1: can be very fantastic Deli meats. There's no reason to
Speaker 1: not just take a big roast and put it on
Speaker 1: the smoker or you know, even in the oven, and
Speaker 1: then just slice that whole thing really thin. That's all
Speaker 1: I did here. And then yeah.
Speaker 3: Just eat it right over the stove.
Speaker 2: What do you do to make that?
Speaker 1: Well? So the the auju that that it's just bone bro.
Speaker 3: We got to talk over the music so we don't
Speaker 3: get dinged. Yeah, this is great.
Speaker 5: I don't think I can adjust the volume on Instagram.
Speaker 5: This might be a problem highlight, but.
Speaker 1: Talk over so we don't get ding Yeah, just keep talking,
Speaker 1: that's exactly the mode. Yeah, good smash a sando like that. Kids,
Speaker 1: looks great the audio now, but I wanted to give
Speaker 1: a taste.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's good, that's good.
Speaker 1: And then the yeah, the AJ that's that's bone bra
Speaker 1: so I'll I'll pack out as many bones as I
Speaker 1: can and then put those in a big pressure cooker
Speaker 1: and new come for thirty minutes and then strain it
Speaker 1: out and can it. So a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of time with the pressure cooker. Oh and yeah, it's
Speaker 1: I have not I.
Speaker 2: Have like a couple of huge elk bones that I
Speaker 2: haven't cut.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that stuff is like so reduced that
Speaker 1: the liquids like tacky like candy and it just makes Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so good, so good. Get it blustery cold day
Speaker 1: and get some bone stock out, or like when we
Speaker 1: make wantons, We'll make a ton of wantons and then
Speaker 1: just freeze them and then you crack open a jar
Speaker 1: your bone broth and dump wantons in there, and it's
Speaker 1: like instant wanton soup. It's killer, really good, really good.
Speaker 1: But hey, use your if you get if you're like
Speaker 1: I'm so sick of having big roasts and things, just
Speaker 1: slice those things into deli meat and it actually freezes
Speaker 1: just fine if you vaccial deli meat together, which I've
Speaker 1: done for like a bunch of our shoots and and things,
Speaker 1: because like always really depresses me to leave this freezer
Speaker 1: of awesome meat, go on a shoot, and the first
Speaker 1: place he goes Walmart to go buy a bunch of
Speaker 1: crappy deli meat instead just making it at home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the point it Yeah, yeah, all right, those are
Speaker 1: our recipes. Ish, let us know how inspired you are
Speaker 1: by writing Anne, because we love our instant gratification.
Speaker 3: Phil, speaking of that instant gratification, what's going on in
Speaker 3: the chat?
Speaker 5: Well, Colton asked doctor Randall. The movie reviews are a
Speaker 5: great idea. Any interest in a monthly book club? I
Speaker 5: think we've talked about this briefly, but there's a reason
Speaker 5: that we went with movies instead of books.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there there, I mean, there's always interest in a
Speaker 3: monthly book club. I've gotten a number of requests for
Speaker 3: reading lists related to mountain men and long hunter things.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to work on maybe a reading list
Speaker 3: for the website on those topics, and then maybe you'll
Speaker 3: just get a wacky reading list too, books about dinosaurs
Speaker 3: and World War two and serial killers.
Speaker 5: What's next, Phil Mogor, Our good friend Mogor, says Carinn Prin.
Speaker 1: He's for your feet picture.
Speaker 5: It's ugly but tasty in my language. Randa Dphenom I
Speaker 5: do not know how to. I can't do a Hungarian
Speaker 5: accents and I will not try. But he says, believe me,
Speaker 5: it sounds really good and Hungarian. So he's offering some
Speaker 5: words of support.
Speaker 1: Thanks for that.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Quite ugly but tasty. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see.
Speaker 5: Ron asks Randall, have you ever had a Salan's hot
Speaker 5: dog from Buffalo, New York.
Speaker 3: I have not. I have not, but I'm intrigued. I
Speaker 3: will take this moment to shout out my friend Eric
Speaker 3: in Nebraska, who just sent me a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: Wimmers hot dogs, which are a regional staple there. He
Speaker 3: said me a few varieties, along with some famous Nebraska
Speaker 3: sauces and cal and I have been plotting up a
Speaker 3: taste test at some point. So yeah, I'd be interested
Speaker 3: to learn more about Salein's dogs. But I haven't been
Speaker 3: to Buffalo in a good long while.
Speaker 2: Ron, if you feel like mailing doctor Randall a package
Speaker 2: of those.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I mean, I love it, but
Speaker 3: i'd encourage you not to. After seeing how much money
Speaker 3: Eric spent on postage to send hot dogs across the country.
Speaker 1: A lot of hot dog content a beautiful gesture. A
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people don't know. In fact,
Speaker 1: my significant other was just shocked to find out that
Speaker 1: Randal and I met at a hot dog stands and
Speaker 1: you'll die in front of the hot.
Speaker 3: Red hots and catch them. Uh.
Speaker 5: Dermond Donnelly asked your face, Dermid, Oh, I've never seen
Speaker 5: this Welsh Dermid spelled that way. Well, I learned Scottish
Speaker 5: favorite store bought fish coating like like I'm guessing, like
Speaker 5: a fry like a like a fry coating if you
Speaker 5: have one, because they're not too hard to make it home,
Speaker 5: I would guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not too picky. Try to find something
Speaker 1: that seems simple. So yeah, you're just like your old
Speaker 1: fish fry stuff. Yeah, not real helpful here.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this counts as a coating, but
Speaker 3: the I like the Tony shasheris spice blend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Tony's is good. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 2: bought I think I just flour or corn meal and
Speaker 2: a spice mix.
Speaker 1: Yeah I do. I mean panco with a little bit
Speaker 1: of corn starch and white pepper is a good good
Speaker 1: way to go on a little garlic powder.
Speaker 5: Well, Rashad you asked a great trapping question, but I
Speaker 5: will hold off on that until Seth or Steve are here,
Speaker 5: unless Cal and Randall think they want to.
Speaker 1: My best I can do is quote Wayne's World on that.
Speaker 3: I'd take a swing, but it wouldn't be helpful to you, Rashad,
Speaker 3: my friend, let's.
Speaker 5: Pass over Taylor made outdoors. Hey, new meat eater fam
Speaker 5: is brought into the world this morning at five am,
Speaker 5: a month early, so she's in the nick you, but
Speaker 5: she's beautiful and we'll be raised with meat eater parenting
Speaker 5: slash Children's thanks for watching the show next to your
Speaker 5: newborn and your wife who was in the hospital.
Speaker 3: I know that from one of my many stays.
Speaker 5: Yes, I like this question. I don't know how you
Speaker 5: guys are going to answer it. Brad asks what animal
Speaker 5: do you shamelessly wish was a game animal that is
Speaker 5: not and never will be?
Speaker 3: Real weird and interesting question, Brad, thank you.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I mean the obvious one for me is wild horses.
Speaker 3: They are there, they have a tremendous ecological cost.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: They're they're terrible for the health of our landscape, and
Speaker 3: they're large animals that evolved on this continent. So there's
Speaker 3: people have been hunting horses for a real long time,
Speaker 3: but now we don't thanks to the Wild Horse and
Speaker 3: bro Protection Act. I'm to think of another one that's weirder,
Speaker 3: but I'll turn it over to my colleagues while I
Speaker 3: chew on that.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like you had this amazing vehicle that
Speaker 1: you could also eat, and then emotions just ran rampant
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh no, that's not for eating.
Speaker 2: Have you guys eaten horse?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, both like little like sashimi type horse and then
Speaker 1: sausage too.
Speaker 2: Done like a precuto type cured meat, cured but never
Speaker 2: a sashimi, yeah type.
Speaker 3: What about you manates, panda bears?
Speaker 1: I think sea lions for us non.
Speaker 3: Predators.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sea lions would be yeah, because those sons of guns.
Speaker 1: Like you're swimming, Imagine you're with a bunch of folks
Speaker 1: that you don't know all that well but you trust,
Speaker 1: and you're way off the coast of California and you're
Speaker 1: diving into the not great visibility Pacific Ocean out there,
Speaker 1: and you go through the dark and the murk in
Speaker 1: the top like twenty feet of the water column, and
Speaker 1: then right about the time you can start seeing some
Speaker 1: sort of structure on the bottom, this big, huge fang
Speaker 1: tooth monster pops up right in your face and blows
Speaker 1: bubbles at you. And you're trying to control your breathing
Speaker 1: so as you don't die. I'd like to just I'd
Speaker 1: like to eat one, kill one, eat one. And our
Speaker 1: friend Heather de Ville is just telling me that the
Speaker 1: sea lions they have a way more mild, more palatable
Speaker 1: taste than than like seals do. Interesting. Yeah, yep, marine creatures.
Speaker 1: That's wild bill Bill is asking. I'm sure directed at
Speaker 1: cal do feral cats count? Oh, feral cats count for sure?
Speaker 1: For sure. That's another stigma we got to get rid
Speaker 1: of in this in this country, feral cats should be
Speaker 1: shot on site. Period. Oh yeah, you can definitely eat
Speaker 1: those little disease written creatures for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are vectors for some weird pathogens.
Speaker 2: I feel, yes, but probably shouldn't eat them because.
Speaker 1: Ye are pregnant lady, or used to be pregnant lady.
Speaker 1: She couldn't be around cats. So yeah, yeah, but birds
Speaker 1: because they're a little disease carrying but they.
Speaker 3: Kill a lot of birds, and there are reports coming
Speaker 3: out all the time about birds being in trouble.
Speaker 1: Bird populations, oh, directly linked to the extinction of several species.
Speaker 1: And yeah, like we need yeah they Yeah, we're prioritizing
Speaker 1: some little killing machine that shouldn't be there over native
Speaker 1: species and it's it's insane. Billions of birds and mammals,
Speaker 1: small mammals. Yeah, good, thank you for bringing up the cats.
Speaker 3: Shout out bill.
Speaker 5: He means that to hut out in the bottom of
Speaker 5: his heart. I'm gonna be selfish and steal the last question. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Leland asked what's the status of the Meat Eater Crew
Speaker 5: D and D campaign. So I've actually been thinking about
Speaker 5: this a lot over a year ago. At the company
Speaker 5: Christmas party, not this last Christmas, but the Christmas before,
Speaker 5: Spencer came up to me after a couple of beers
Speaker 5: and say, a Phil, I was thinking, like, can we
Speaker 5: switch up trivia a little bit. I'm thinking like a
Speaker 5: like a murder mystery party based on the fish heist, which,
Speaker 5: if you don't know, some fish was stolen quote unquote
Speaker 5: out of the freezer in the office that Steve brought
Speaker 5: back from Alaska or something.
Speaker 1: No one caught to it. No one admitted to taking
Speaker 1: the fish.
Speaker 5: It's still it's still out there somewhere or has been
Speaker 5: passed and is you know, has been left to the
Speaker 5: great cycle. But but we it was never solved. And
Speaker 5: then I laughed and thought that'd be a lot of work,
Speaker 5: if that'd be a lot of fun. And then about
Speaker 5: a year past, and then just a couple months ago,
Speaker 5: I had like a shower thought of like, man, that'd
Speaker 5: be a really good like D and D one shot. Yea,
Speaker 5: So I have been I have been writing this D
Speaker 5: and D one shot based on the fish heist. I'm
Speaker 5: like seventy percent done. I've got it like all mapped
Speaker 5: out in my head. I just got to find players.
Speaker 5: Cal you're currently on NPC in the game, but if
Speaker 5: you want to be a player, I.
Speaker 1: Would love to have you at the table. Oh dude,
Speaker 1: I'm totally yeah, totally same with same with you, Karin.
Speaker 1: And long as you have the patience for a first timer, yeah, of.
Speaker 3: Course, tuned up and watch YouTube videos and how to
Speaker 3: play D and D and then I'll be set.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I I So anyway, I'm really excited about it.
Speaker 5: I don't know when it's gonna happen because I want
Speaker 5: to have a SaaS session where we play like a
Speaker 5: different game than teach people how to play and then
Speaker 5: jump into this thing. But if if I get the
Speaker 5: green light, because I would like to record it, and
Speaker 5: if we if it's good and fun and I get
Speaker 5: the green light to like drop it on the YouTube channel,
Speaker 5: I would love to do that. So that's that is
Speaker 5: what's happening right now. Anyway, I hope it happens.
Speaker 3: Thanks for your trivia questions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so big heads up to everybody. Next week is
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Speaker 3: I like it.
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Speaker 1: All right, gang, that's all we have for today's show.
Speaker 1: As always, thank you for tuning in. We'll see you
Speaker 1: again next week.
Speaker 2: See you next week Rock on