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Speaker 1: Smell us Now, Lady, welcome to Meet Eater Trivia Meta Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Media Radio Line. It's eleven am, Montana time.

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Speaker 1: It's snowing like the Dickens out there. Charles Dickens. Phil.

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, March twenty. We're live here from Meat Eater

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Speaker 1: HQ and bos Angelus, Montana, the Greater bos Angelus Metropolitan Area.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Ryan cal Callahan. With me today is

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Speaker 1: doctor Randall Williams. I like to give him one of these,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Randall Williams, and who actually knows how to use

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Speaker 1: her fists? Schneider Gran, what would you do instead of this?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not great at punching, but it's more like

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Speaker 1: Sure. Sure, she's all about submission. That's what is that?

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Speaker 2: Not?

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Speaker 1: Right? Keep going? When was last time you were in

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Speaker 1: a dojo? Phil?

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Speaker 3: There's another bullet point beneath that one.

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Speaker 1: We have all sorts of great stuff for you today,

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Speaker 1: including fake news hosted by Doctor Randall. Guests such as

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Speaker 1: Tidepool Tim from Gulf of Maine Ink, which I'm super

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Speaker 1: excited for. You got some great questions for tide Pool

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Speaker 1: Tim and Jordan Sellers, who, as you know, contributes a

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Speaker 1: heck of a lot around the Old Meat Eater universe,

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Speaker 1: from editorial to working on Cow's Weekend review, all your

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Speaker 1: awesome like gun controversial, highly controversial gun on gun episode

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Speaker 1: or article articles thank you on the website. Jordan has

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Speaker 1: been working on a super cool new project in the

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Speaker 1: true crime genre. Yeah, we're very excited to bring that

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Speaker 1: to you. Phil's gonna make that noise the whole time

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Speaker 1: because we don't have that's probably like the Law and

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Speaker 1: Order theme song thing is probably not something that we

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Speaker 1: can just rip off. Anyway, I'm gonna start off the

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Speaker 1: show by giving you what you really want, which is

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Speaker 1: like a policy in Federal Lands Update in the segment

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Speaker 1: that somebody decided to call callan leashed. Oh wow, that's great.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad I cut my own hair for this.

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Speaker 1: It's true. Do you think I paid for it? Come on, okay,

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Speaker 1: Public Lands Update. We're gonna start with the good stuff first.

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Speaker 1: A tenth Circuit Court of Appeals, one of the highest

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Speaker 1: federal courts in all of the land, just issued their

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Speaker 1: judgment their decision on the second Federal appeal of the

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Speaker 1: Corner Crossing case in Wyoming. This is huge for folks

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Speaker 1: who aren't familiar with corner crossing, you will be shortly.

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Speaker 1: Phil's gonna bring it up for you. If we can't

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Speaker 1: get it up there, go to on X corner locked

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Speaker 1: report and it just gives you a very good, easy

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Speaker 1: breakdown of what we're talking about. But it's checkerboard and

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Speaker 1: where the corners of the squares come together. That is

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Speaker 1: how our land system's kind of broken down in the US.

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Speaker 1: So stepping from one piece of public let's say, a

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Speaker 1: very straightforward, and by God, according to the judges it is.

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Speaker 1: If you can wrap your head around this, stepping from

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Speaker 1: public land to public land is legal. That's pretty much it.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty much the update. A lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: understand why this is controversial. It never should have been.

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Speaker 1: Please read the decision out of the Tenth Circuit Court,

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Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan, and Obama. This case ain't getting turned over

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Speaker 1: all says this is totally legal, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: that's where we're at right now. So a big round

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Speaker 1: of applause, huge, huge thanks to Wyoming back huntry hunters

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Speaker 1: for backing up Wyoming BHA and super proud to say

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Speaker 1: that here at Meat Eater we kicked in a bunch

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Speaker 1: through common sense. That just took a long time to

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Speaker 2: I thought that was great, especially yeah, that it's ten

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Speaker 1: Great, Yeah, so that was really cool. All right. Next

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Speaker 1: big piece of news that affects all of us is

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Speaker 6: Well, thanks for having me on today.

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Speaker 7: It's kind of a cold, windy day here on the

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Speaker 7: And we had hoped to join you guys at low tide,

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Speaker 7: kid's raspberry fruit roll up. So when we open, you

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Speaker 7: have to scrape off this thin sheet of meat and

436
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 7: so tip them.

437
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 6: That sheet of muscle is pulling on the skin. It

438
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 6: curls up.

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00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 7: Totally like a fruit roll up automatically because there's nothing

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00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 7: to pull against. And then you you know, you could

441
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 7: cook that saute that like anything, but it's really crunchy.

442
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 7: It's kind of like if you were in my mind's

443
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 7: when we've eaten it and our kids have eaten it,

444
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 7: it's it's almost like you're chewing on cartilage. It really

445
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 7: kind of pops in your teeth, and then the skin

446
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 7: itself is boiled and dried and then shredded up and served,

447
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 7: you know, like on a on top of a seaweed salad.

448
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 7: And we've never actually eaten much of the skin, but

449
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 7: it's a very tough organism.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever describe some of your biology students in

451
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: the same manner? Just just a mouth.

452
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Speaker 6: Tenth graders, right, you're nothing but a gut and a goat.

453
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Speaker 7: They like that. In fact, years ago, I tried to

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Speaker 7: convince my wife uh to allow or decide on the

455
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 7: the first name Nad for one of our children.

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Speaker 6: Can you imagine if they're an athlete, go ned go nag.

457
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 7: Go nads and they're like, mister she and you gotta

458
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 7: do that, you gotta do that.

459
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 6: But it never came to fruition.

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Speaker 1: So oh, I love it. I love it. Yeah. So

461
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 1: what what's the like, the favorite thing? What what is

462
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: in in the tidepool? Tim world?

463
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 6: Yeah?

464
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: What's the favorite critter to go after?

465
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 6: For meat eaters? But our top product really is Irish moss.

466
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 7: It's a short red marine algae that has carrageening in it,

467
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 7: which is a natural thickening agent. And you've probably heard

468
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 7: of this in your supermarket or maybe natural food store,

469
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 7: but sea moss and sea moss jaw. A lot of people,

470
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 7: especially in North America, are getting onto eating seaweeds as.

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Speaker 6: A regular part of their diet.

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00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 7: So we go out actually in this bay here at

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00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 7: very low tide, and here's this red fuzz growing along

474
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 7: the rocks, and we use cutters to cut it off,

475
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 7: We rinse it out, We bring it back to our

476
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 7: base into a greenhouse, spread it out on tables and

477
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 7: dry it out.

478
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 6: And when we're shipping it to our customers.

479
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 7: It's used typically a half pound or a pound of

480
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 7: this dried so the home consumer will take it, put

481
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Speaker 7: it in a VitaminX or a blender with a little

482
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 7: bit of water, some lemon or lime juice and just kind.

483
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 6: Of pulse it a little bit, and it's the coolest thing.

484
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 6: The seaweed.

485
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 7: It's liquid turns into a liquid and then immediately immediately

486
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 7: just gels up like putt it and it has a

487
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 7: beautiful red pink color to it. Coolah or irish moss

488
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 7: that we have here in the industry is called purple

489
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 7: sea moss, and a lot of the moss that's out

490
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 7: on the market comes from like the Caribbean type areas

491
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 7: and they have a golden colored sea moss, but the

492
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 7: same thing you have a seaweed or a marine algae

493
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 7: carrageenon in it.

494
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Speaker 6: And our customers swear by having a tablespoon.

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00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 7: Of this gel in their regular smoothie or in their

496
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 7: soup or whatever they're they're cooking every day.

497
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Speaker 6: And I mean, it's the weirdest product.

498
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 7: Once again, it kind of hit us around COVID because

499
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 7: I when the kids were young, I made a YouTube

500
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 7: video for my YouTube channel about Irish moth and all

501
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 7: these new customers kept calling, Hey, I watch your video.

502
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 7: I want some of this moth, you know, I want

503
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 7: to save my life. And uh, people call and they're crying.

504
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 7: People are sharing this moss with their whole their whole church,

505
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 7: their neighbors.

506
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 6: People calling and saying they secured them of skin problems. Uh.

507
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 7: COVID like everything under the side, like securely so uh

508
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 7: and that's a lot of anecdotal kind of stuff. But

509
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 7: people swear by the effects of eating this Irish moss,

510
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 7: And really that's our number one and product right now.

511
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 6: Cool are our fishing worms are blood worms?

512
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I like I like the balance their

513
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: health and beauty and blood worms. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well

514
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: I know where Eileen personally.

515
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 7: The we have so many categories of products, you know,

516
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 7: bait and fertilizer and food and and science and research

517
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 7: and that it just makes for a really fun day

518
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 7: because each morning I get on my laptop and I

519
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 7: look at my orders and I go, oh, geez, I

520
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 7: gotta go, you know, pick five pounds of moss and

521
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 7: they need to run over here and pull these traps

522
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 7: to get twelve hermit crabs. And then I'm gonna run

523
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 7: to this other dock and get some cn M and e's.

524
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 7: So it's really you know, uh, in terms of what

525
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 7: we've created with Gulf of Maine, it's it's just like

526
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 7: an every day is a holiday. It's always fun, it's

527
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 7: always exciting, and then we're able to populate our Instagram

528
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 7: with all kinds of amazing content every day.

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Speaker 6: It's always fresh. It could be a dead seal washed

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Speaker 6: up on the beach.

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Speaker 7: It could be you know, some bald eagles fighting over

532
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 7: a dead eel on the rock weed.

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Speaker 6: It's just so much variety.

534
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 7: And you know, we hunt, we fish, we forage, we

535
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 7: eat mushrooms, we eat seaweeds.

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00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 6: You know, it's really kind of a fun way to

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Speaker 6: raise our kids.

538
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 7: And to just go about each and every day.

539
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Speaker 6: And we're making really good money.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's amazing how this stuff that's just lying

541
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Speaker 7: around here in this bay.

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Speaker 6: You know, this is our virtual warehouse, if you will.

543
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 7: And every day, whether it's twenty below zero or it's

544
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 7: seventy degrees out, I gotta be out here picking and

545
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 7: collecting and sort of sending these boxes out all across

546
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Speaker 7: mostly North America, but sometimes into Europe.

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Speaker 1: Do you have internships available.

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00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 7: In the summertime? And we just we don't put out

549
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 7: anything formal. We kind of wait for motivated students to

550
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 7: get a hold of us and say, hey, I'd like

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00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 7: to come and hang out with you guys.

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Speaker 6: What do you got?

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00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 7: You know, And we've had students from all around the

554
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Speaker 7: country com So if there's any listeners looking for a

555
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 7: fun uh you know, variety field summer, hit us up

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Speaker 7: at Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, Tim, Tim, thanks for joining us. Can you tell

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00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: quickly if folks want to learn more about Golf of

559
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: Maine where they can find you. Yeah, I mean, we have.

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00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 7: A great website and you can order all of our products.

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00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 7: It's Golf of Me dot com.

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00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 6: Uh.

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00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 7: We have a nice Instagram for typool Tim, and also

564
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 7: at golf of Me for the business, and then we

565
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 7: have some TikTok postings and also my YouTube channel. So yeah,

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00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 7: all kinds of good stuff there, some of it crazy, uh,

567
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 7: some got some gonads and uh a.

568
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Speaker 6: Whole lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: Sounds perfect.

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Speaker 1: Heck yeah, well thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: Dam thanks Tim.

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Speaker 2: See, I think I'm going to order myself some c

573
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Speaker 2: cucumbers and olympits that special mom.

574
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 3: Get some blood worms up in here.

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Speaker 1: You have to do some dead drifting.

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Speaker 3: M hmm.

577
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. We're gonna be stealhead beta guarantee it.

578
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: I love how I go for the health and beauty

579
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 2: and snacks and you guys go for the bait.

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00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: I would definitely get a supply of good seaweed too,

581
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: for making poke and all that good stuff. Yeah, game,

582
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: what do you want to do? You want to go

583
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: do Randall's segment of fake News's fake news? How dare

584
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: you fake news? Or do you want to do listener

585
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Speaker 1: feet Let's do.

586
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 3: Fake news tape and bushop take balloon at a better

587
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: shot than don this? So wh is that?

588
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: So this opportunity comes once for.

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Speaker 4: A few weeks, you can do anything you set your

590
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Speaker 4: minds to.

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Speaker 3: Guys. Oh, my gosh, yes, beautiful Phil.

592
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: Give it up for Phil.

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00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: So, in this segment of fake news, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: share a selectively edited hunting or fishing related headline from

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Speaker 3: the news while Cal and Karin attempt to fill in

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Speaker 3: the blank with the multiple choice options. Only one of

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Speaker 3: your choices is true. According to this news article, Phil,

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Speaker 3: it's hit him with number one here French hunter eighty

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Speaker 3: one on trial for killing endangered blank? Is it an

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Speaker 3: endangered lynx, an endangered duck, an endangered frog or an

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Speaker 3: endangered bear? Oh? Got a little sound effect too. I

602
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: think this segment is shaping up nicely, Philed.

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Speaker 1: It's coming together.

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Speaker 2: At the same time.

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Speaker 3: Whenever you're ready. Whenever you're ready, c frog, d We

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00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: have our answers, frog and bear. One of you got

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Speaker 3: it right. The answer is bear. Oh. The headline reads

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Speaker 3: French hunter eighty one on trial for killing endangered that

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Speaker 3: attacked him. This was reported by The Guardian Andre Rives

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Speaker 3: assumes how you pronounce it was boar hunting in the

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Speaker 3: Pyrenees Mountains when a female bear named Caramelis attacked him.

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00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: He surprisingly encountered the cubs and was then charged and

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Speaker 3: dragged by the bear by his leg before he shot it.

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00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: He sustained injuries and had to be evacuated by helicopter.

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00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 3: An investigation revealed that the bear was killed four hundred

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Speaker 3: meters that's thirteen hundred feet for those of US stateside,

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Speaker 3: outside of an authorized hunting area and in a nature reserve.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen of their hunters, who also took part in the

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Speaker 3: hunt are being prosecuted for various offenses, including hunting in

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Speaker 3: the Montevalier Nature Reserve, one of the oldest reserves in

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Speaker 3: the Pyrenees. The hunters argued that the boundaries of the

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Speaker 3: reserve were poorly marked.

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Speaker 2: I thought that this uh, elderly elder gentleman was going

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Speaker 2: after some prized frog legs. No, and they were going

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Speaker 2: to make a big deal out of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're so racially by us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think on the.

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Speaker 2: French part there, that was that I fell for the trick. Answer, well,

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Speaker 2: very good, Randall.

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Speaker 1: Eighty one man attack. Was it a grizzly bear?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe it's a brown bear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so cool, so cool. Yeah, most people don't

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Speaker 1: know brown bears in Europe. Like spitting distance from major

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Speaker 1: tourist attractions, which is so cool, so cool. But I

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Speaker 1: want to be eighty one and be able to be

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Speaker 1: attacked by a bear and drug and still I can

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Speaker 1: shoot it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: Then then get a flight out of there. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: getting ticketed and yeah, heart old man.

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Speaker 3: Phil, let's hit this second one. Blank responds to a

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Speaker 3: story of pet deer being taken by the Pennsylvania Game Commission?

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Speaker 3: Is it Ted Nugent, Elon Musk, Ellen DeGeneres or Joe

644
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Speaker 3: Rogan Cash is responding to the story of a pet

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Speaker 3: deer being taken by the Pennsylvania Game Commission.

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Speaker 1: It's a trick question. It's e all of the above.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is specific to one article that I found

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Speaker 3: on the internet that may well be true, but we're

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Speaker 3: going with the article.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Teddy Nuggets. Yeah, motor

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Speaker 1: City mad man.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna pet Okay, I could see that too. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna lean.

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Speaker 3: To Ellen, Ellen and Ted. I'm afraid neither one of

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Speaker 3: you got it right here. He's a busy man. Elon Musk.

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Speaker 3: This story comes to us from PennLive dot com. Elon

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Speaker 3: Musk responds to story of pet deer being taken by

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Speaker 3: the Pennsylvania Game Commission. A sixty four year old woman

659
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Speaker 3: was arrested back in February for interfering with the Pennsylvania

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Speaker 3: Commission Game Commission authorities as they attempted to take away

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Speaker 3: a pet deer named Baby. Baby was a wild born deer,

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Speaker 3: which made it illegal to keep as a pet, and

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Speaker 3: had been castrated and wore a dog collar. Baby's owner,

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Speaker 3: Tammy Sheery, refused to allow entry to the police when

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Speaker 3: they arrived with a lawful search warrant. Elon Musk, the

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Speaker 3: head of Tesla SpaceX and the Department of Government Efficiency quote,

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Speaker 3: tweeted a story about this incident, recently adding his own

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Speaker 3: thoughts quote, the authorities need to stop doing this end quote.

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Speaker 3: His tweet kicked off a ship storm on social media,

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Speaker 3: with many users using the hashtag save Baby, and they

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Speaker 3: shared the video of the deer being forcibly led away

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Speaker 3: from its enclosure. Real sad stuff. Oh oh, busy guy.

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Speaker 1: The humanity. They need to stop doing this. Why I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 3: Cameras? Yeah, all right, still one nothing. Col Phil hit

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Speaker 3: us with a third headline, police say reported swimmer in

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Speaker 3: distress turned out to be blank. Is it duck? Hunters, seals,

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Speaker 3: geese or spear fishermen. Oh what were these purported reported

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Speaker 3: swimmers in distress?

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Speaker 1: Probably yeah, I'm even go the go.

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Speaker 3: D Cal's go and d Corinsey and b man blanked

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Speaker 3: you again here the answer is geese. This story comes

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Speaker 3: to us from New Zealand. Police and a rescue squad

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Speaker 3: responded to a report about two swimmers in distress near

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Speaker 3: Ferguson Park in Touranga, New Zealand. Helicopter and Coast Guard

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Speaker 3: cruise searched the area for forty five minutes before the

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Speaker 3: police gave the call to stand down. A police representative

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Speaker 3: later stated that the search was called off when the

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Speaker 3: reported struggling swimmers quote turned out to be geese. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 3: the people who mistook the birds for people did the

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Speaker 3: right thing by making the report. Well, guys, it's tough round.

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Speaker 3: We've got one more question here. Let's see if Karin

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Speaker 3: can tie it at one's gonna run away with this victory.

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Speaker 1: It's a good thing I can't get negative points.

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Speaker 2: I think my performance on this game is kind of

696
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Speaker 2: like trivia. I wonder which one's worse.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is just nonsense. So a man went deer

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Speaker 3: hunting and accidentally stumbled upon blank. Is it a mammoth tusk,

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Speaker 3: stolen cash, a murder victim, or a World War Two

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Speaker 3: era aircraft?

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Speaker 1: I personally have done d M.

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Speaker 2: What yeah this article about you?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna go a see a murder victim.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think I was leaning toward be stolen cash,

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Speaker 2: B and C.

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Speaker 3: Or these your final answers blanked again. It's a mammoth tusk.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I forgot to get a screenshot of this one.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's like iowall picture.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Texas.

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Speaker 3: This one comes just from Popular Mechanics. A hunter at

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Speaker 3: the two Ranch in Texas near Big Ben National Park

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Speaker 3: came across a strange fossil like rock in the drainage

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Speaker 3: area of a creek bed and took a photo of

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Speaker 3: his phone. He then showed it to the ranch manager,

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Speaker 3: who contacted researchers to come take a look. Turns out

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Speaker 3: it was a single mammoth tusk isolated from the rest

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Speaker 3: of the skeleton. After two days of plaster casting that tusk,

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Speaker 3: researchers removed it for transportation to soul Ross State University

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Speaker 3: in Alpine. And I wish we had an image of that,

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Speaker 3: because darn it was a good looking tusk. Next time,

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Speaker 3: really blew it?

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Speaker 1: Next time, that's a real dream, real dream. Find we

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Speaker 1: fella like me? Do we want to jump over to listener?

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Speaker 1: A f You have only got a couple real quick.

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Speaker 1: We're running late a couple of games. What do you

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Speaker 1: have to get to?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm I don't know. I mean I don't have to.

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Speaker 1: Do Should we just go on until five o'clock?

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Speaker 2: Ye?

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Speaker 1: Like, who's stopping us? Anything else?

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Speaker 3: Questions here?

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Speaker 5: Nick Corinn. Nick needs some details about your wad ad

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Speaker 5: Hunt next month. Will it be filmed?

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Speaker 2: Oh, well, our colleague Cory uh is going to be

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Speaker 2: along with myself and my boyfriend and he will be filming. He'll,

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Speaker 2: he'll we'll probably do a go pro and a little

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Speaker 2: bit of social media stuff, so some of it will

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Speaker 2: be filmed. It will not be an entire episode. It

739
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: started out as a personal trip, and as these things go,

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Speaker 2: the line between my work life and personal life is

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Speaker 2: kind of super blurred.

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Speaker 1: So I was gonna say it doesn't sound like Cory

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Speaker 1: knows what he's getting into.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to be in in West Texas, close

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Speaker 2: to El Paso, on on a ranch owned by the

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Speaker 2: University of Texas, El Paso. It's a research facility there.

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Speaker 2: That's all I'll say for now. Hopefully we all the

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Speaker 2: three of us get one.

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Speaker 1: It's also where mcgruber played tight end. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people don't know that, Phil.

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Speaker 5: What you got question for doctor Randall from Michael? In

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Speaker 5: addition to the Long Hunter's audio book, what are some

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Speaker 5: other good books about Daniel Boone?

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Speaker 3: Well, you've covered the essential source there, nice, So I

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Speaker 3: will add Robert Morgan's biography Boone. And then there's a

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Speaker 3: book called My Father Nathan Boone. That was It's based

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Speaker 3: on interviews with Boone's son, taken by Lyman Draper and

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Speaker 3: then organized into a book and published by Ted Franklin.

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Speaker 3: Below that, I'll get you going. How's that? Phil?

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Speaker 1: That was perfect man who knows his sources? Jack?

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Speaker 5: Ask Cal what are some things Easterners can do to

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Speaker 5: help protect Western public lands other than joining conservation organizations?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Jack, Well, first of all, these are your public lands,

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Speaker 1: just like us. Westerners consider them our public lands, just

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Speaker 1: as Democrats, Republicans, independents, all the colors of the rainbow.

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Speaker 1: It's your public lands. So yes, joining conservation groups so

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Speaker 1: they can point to your membership as somebody that they

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Speaker 1: are representing is very helpful, but at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, you have got to notify your elected officials

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Speaker 1: of your interests, needs, and wants. Right and again, like

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Speaker 1: we've been saying very consistency consistently over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, you can say, hey, love what's going on

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Speaker 1: over here, but this stuff over here has me super

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Speaker 1: freaked out. I do not like it. I love public Lands,

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Speaker 1: I understand the value that they bring to all of

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Speaker 1: us Americans, and I need them protected, not broken up.

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Speaker 1: Something simple like that. We're all in this together, buddy, fantastic, awesome, Phil,

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Speaker 1: What you got?

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Speaker 5: Oh, we've got a few more, but we've got a

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Speaker 5: good friend and colleague in the waiting room. I think

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Speaker 5: we'll hit some of these at the end of the show.

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Speaker 5: And you guys want to submit some more questions, send

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Speaker 5: them my way and maybe we'll answer them at the

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Speaker 5: end of the show.

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Speaker 1: Excellentt all right, Yeah, thank you for the questions. And

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have a lot more questions about this, which

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Speaker 1: I think is the point. It's gonna wake you up

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00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. It's a real who

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00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: done it? It's a murder mystery brought to you by

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Speaker 1: me Eater's own Jordan Sellers. Jordan, are you with us?

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Speaker 3: Jordan, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sound great. What have you been working on?

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Speaker 4: Oh man, Well, exactly what you said. Last year, I

797
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 4: was contacted by a guy who told me about a

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Speaker 4: murder that took place in two thousand and three in Virginia.

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Speaker 4: This murder was of a Turkey hunter named David Stack.

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Speaker 4: He was forty four years old at the time, and

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Speaker 4: they never figured out who did it. And so I've

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Speaker 4: been looking into this for about a year now. It's

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Speaker 4: been pretty close and put everything together into a single

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Speaker 4: episode of a podcast that we're going to release next

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Speaker 4: week during Turkey Week. So really excited to share that

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Speaker 4: with everyone. Hopefully we can get I don't know, hopefully

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Speaker 4: we can get some new leads in this case, because

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Speaker 4: it's been a long time since anything's happened.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us some details without giving too much away?

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Speaker 4: Yes. So one of the big questions about this case

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Speaker 4: is whether or not the person who committed the homicide

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Speaker 4: knew what they had done, and so there's some evidence

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Speaker 4: at the scene to suggest that this person actually walked

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Speaker 4: up to David Body and removed his face mask to

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Speaker 4: see who it was and then walked away and never

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Speaker 4: has never come forward, has never told anyone what happened.

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Speaker 4: There's some controversy about some other evidence at the scene,

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Speaker 4: a cigarette butt, for example. There is some suspicious there

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Speaker 4: was some suspicious interactions with neighbors that we get into

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Speaker 4: quite a bit. You can imagine, you know, the neighbors

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Speaker 4: are who you're going to look into. First. It was

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Speaker 4: on about one hundred and ninety acres in western central Virginia,

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Speaker 4: so there were some neighbors around other turkey hunters. There

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Speaker 4: were some pretty suspicious things that happened with the neighbors.

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot to dig into. It's just a

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Speaker 4: single episode, so you know, we're not going to do

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Speaker 4: a whole season on this one's story, but there is

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Speaker 4: a lot there to talk about for sure.

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Speaker 1: Heck yeah, and the title is Blood Trails, a Turkey

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Speaker 1: Woods Cold Case.

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Speaker 4: That's right. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And when when does this drop? Jordan?

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Speaker 4: I believe next Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it'll be the Tuesday of Turkey.

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Speaker 1: Week and we're putting it out on what feed it's.

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Speaker 2: Going to be on this feed the Meat Eater podcast feed,

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Speaker 2: So it'll come, Yeah, it'll come on Tuesday. And Jordan

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Speaker 2: also interviewed our colleague Brent Reeves, who is former law

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Speaker 2: enforcement and so I guess you guys went into a

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Speaker 2: little bit of kind of analysis of what we do

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Speaker 2: know and what we don't know.

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Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, that's right for those who don't know. Brent

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00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 4: was in law enforcement for a long time, over thirty years,

844
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Speaker 4: and so his perspective was really important for this story.

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Speaker 4: The Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources, the wildlife agency there

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Speaker 4: is responsible for investigating this case, but they were pretty

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Speaker 4: hesitant to say anything, and we talk a bit about that.

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Speaker 4: But it was important, I think, to get that law

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Speaker 4: enforcement perspective. You know, what are the sort of standard

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Speaker 4: procedures for a case like this. You find someone's body

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Speaker 4: in the woods, what do you do over the next

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Speaker 4: forty eight hours, over the next week. So we covered

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Speaker 4: that and then just getting a little bit more information

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Speaker 4: about why the agency was hesitant to talk with us

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Speaker 4: to give us a lot of information. So Brent's perspective

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Speaker 4: was super helpful and he brought, you know, his usual

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Speaker 4: good natured humor to that discussion. So that's that's in

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Speaker 4: there as well.

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Speaker 3: And can we listen to his magnificent voice on this podcast?

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Speaker 3: Oh wonderful, Yes.

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Speaker 4: Yes we can. It's it's it's a big chunk of

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Speaker 4: the podcast. Actually, so very that's a that's a big plus.

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Speaker 1: Heck yeah, well yeah, we'll be looking forward to that

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Speaker 1: on Turkey Week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tuesday, you guys should all tune in and write

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Speaker 2: a about what you think. It's our first venture into

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Speaker 2: the true crime genre thanks to Jordan's work in real

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Speaker 2: journalism and investigation over the past year, and.

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Speaker 1: Were very unusual. If you solve this, it will be

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Speaker 1: the only murder mystery podcast true crime genre where conservation

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00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: always went exactly. We'll give you five hundred dollars donated

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Speaker 1: to the conservation group of your choice.

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Speaker 3: Jordan, Are you Are you hooked now? As a as ant,

874
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 3: I assume this is your first murder investigation. Are you

875
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: hooked now in the I mean, what was that like

876
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: for you? Because obviously you're talking to people that are

877
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 3: still like involved in the I mean family and people

878
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 3: in that area. What was that like for you?

879
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: Question?

880
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I talked with so. The person who

881
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 4: initially contacted us is a guy named Kenny, and he

882
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 4: was one of David's really good friends. So I talked

883
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 4: with him. I talked with David's son, who was there

884
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 4: that morning. I talked with David's brother who was also

885
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 4: there hunting, and I talked with David's wife. So yeah,

886
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 4: it was it was a an interesting experience, a humbling

887
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 4: experience to talk with these people, who, I mean, are

888
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 4: really brave in my opinion. You know this, this happened

889
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 4: over twenty years ago, and and I'm asking them to

890
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 4: dredge these these things up, dredge up these emotions that

891
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure they would rather not think about

892
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 4: that much, but they care about their their dad, their friend,

893
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 4: their their husband. They want to know what happened. They

894
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 4: want to know who did this, and so they're willing

895
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 4: to go through that to to tell us a bit

896
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 4: more about what happened. So yeah, it was a really

897
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 4: interesting experience. And you know, we'll see, hopefully we can

898
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 4: we can do a few more of these if if

899
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 4: the audience likes them.

900
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: Hmm heck, yeah, sounds like good powerful journalism. I'm looking

901
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 1: forward to listening to it. And yeah, please write in

902
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: and let us know what you think.

903
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 2: Thanks so much.

904
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: Jordan, Thank you, Jordan.

905
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

906
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: All right, tamer, are we feeling hungry? I think so?

907
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: Do you want to go to the meat Eater menu?

908
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

909
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: Okay, bacon taste good, thank you.

910
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 6: Swre rap may tastes like punkin pine, but I never

911
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 6: know because I wouldn't eat the filthy up.

912
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I love it. Okay. This is the segment Meat

913
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: Eater Menu where we talk about things that we've cooked.

914
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: I believe did Karen and I share the only here?

915
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 3: Hold on, let me uh, let me send out a

916
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 3: let me send out a quick text here part of

917
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 3: my part of my presentation here. So I'm gonna get

918
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 3: into a little dish we cooked up this week by

919
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 3: way of a bison hunt that took place in January,

920
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 3: and my wife, Sidney, was fortunate enough to shoot this

921
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 3: year and a half ling cow on American Prairie part

922
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 3: of the American Prairie Harvest Program, and it was just

923
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: a phenomenal experience. Phil next slide. Our first dish that

924
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 3: we made out of this was a tartar the raw

925
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 3: egg out of the Danielle Pruitt cookbook. Just a delightful

926
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 3: little dish. Really enjoyed that we used a piece of

927
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 3: loin and whipped that up like the day or two

928
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 3: after the hunt.

929
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: It looks beautiful. It looks like a cake. It's like

930
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 2: in a mold and.

931
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.

932
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: And then next slide, please, I'm sorry, craid, what are

933
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: you reacting to?

934
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 3: Hold on, Phil, along for the ride.

935
00:57:59,600 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 6: Something.

936
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 3: We've also just done.

937
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: Some pretty standard steaks.

938
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 3: I liked this steak. It I thought I cooked it well,

939
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 3: so I just shared that photo. Next slide, please, Phil,

940
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: That's what it looked like. Ill plate it up. That's

941
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 3: a pretty standard preparation for us at home. Next next slide,

942
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: we did some ribs. Col was over for this, as

943
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 3: was Cal's mom and Pat and Col's aunt and her friend,

944
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 3: and we had a little dinner party the eight of us.

945
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 3: Next slides, please film. So we we diced up those

946
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 3: ribs and made a big old tray of ribs. Now, finally,

947
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 3: this week, in honor of Saint Patrick's Day, Phil, next slide, please,

948
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 3: made a little cottage pie and some soda bread, and

949
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 3: our good friend friend of the program, Chili, brought in

950
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 3: a hot plate of cottage pie.

951
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: For everybody to try it.

952
00:58:55,480 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 3: Here, so little dish of awesome peas and carrot and

953
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 3: some potatoes layered on top, and the real trick here

954
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 3: the the thank you Chili. I appreciate that he's been

955
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 3: sitting by the microwave for a good fifty minutes, so

956
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 3: you're a good man.

957
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 2: Oh I love it. We all best not be sick,

958
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: because we're going to be sharing that fork there.

959
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 3: I've left four forks out there. Yeah, yeah, I'm counting

960
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 3: film the secret ingredient cow. Do you know what it

961
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 3: is here?

962
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh?

963
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: Goodness, that looks so good here, I'm just going to

964
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 2: use his fork.

965
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: That is bison Chriso in there. Oh, rather than burger,

966
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 3: it's Chriso in the cottage pie.

967
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 2: Did you make that? Or did Anna.

968
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 3: Anna Borgman cast Farms made the Chriso? Oh lovely, Sydney

969
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 3: made the cottage pie and the soda bread. So really

970
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 3: I have no hand in this whatsoever.

971
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: That's real good. Oh is that the Spanish Teresa?

972
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 3: Yes?

973
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, that's really tasty.

974
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 3: Yep, thank you, thank you Chili. Art handsome and helpful.

975
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 3: That's so good.

976
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wander over here.

977
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 3: Yes, that's oh and then Phil, if you hit the next.

978
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Speaker 1: Slide, oh sure, yeah, hold on a seing.

979
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Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, we're doing this a little chaotic here, that's

980
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 3: what it looked like. Sydney didn't like that picture because

981
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 3: it has the uh, the takeout container, and she said,

982
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 3: it looks like we didn't make the food. But that's

983
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 3: actually a takeout container with some pastries in it.

984
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: I'll just let go.

985
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 3: Karen has taken control of the cottage.

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01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 5: Well here, this is actually convenient. Is one of the

987
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 5: questions Kyle asked, was he he wanted to know what's

988
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 5: for lunch? Yeah, so there we are a large piece

989
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 5: of Now you can watch us eat on camera.

990
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, you can.

991
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 3: Get after that. Sish and Cal thought, I didn't prepare

992
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 3: anything for Meat Eater menu. That's just a whole story

993
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 3: leading up to a tasty little dish that you can

994
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 3: enjoy right here on Meat Eater Radio Live.

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01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: It's got a lot of white pepper in it, and

996
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 2: it's it's it's spicy. Oh my goodness, anything like that.

997
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, the chresa was an accident. Sydney pulled out

998
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 3: the wrong package. But I think it works quite nicely.

999
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: Happy accident. And I grew up with a lot of

1000
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: mashed potato ground meat combos.

1001
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 3: So and used for frozen peas.

1002
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: Oh wonderful.

1003
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: I have to step up my cooking game. Nothing I've

1004
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: made tastes like that.

1005
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: All right, all right, guys, sorry we're now what you got?

1006
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 2: Uh it's it's a shame coming after that. I think

1007
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 2: the picture that I sent of the dish was after

1008
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 2: I had eaten most of it and then it was

1009
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:50,439
Speaker 2: like in a little plastic tupperware container. So I think

1010
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 2: that was what last year about a year agoes hog

1011
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: and Texas. I don't know if that was my first

1012
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 2: or second Texas Hog down South in uh way down

1013
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: south in Texas, or if that was the one that

1014
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 2: we shot while podcasting. I can't remember. In any case,

1015
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: I cooked up There was a pack of it in

1016
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: the freezer for for a while and it just said

1017
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: trim trim for grind, but I really I didn't have

1018
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 2: a grinder. I didn't really want to do that with it.

1019
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 2: So when I defrosted, I noticed that it was like

1020
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: part of uh, part of part of the leg like

1021
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: what you do like uh aso buco with and so

1022
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 2: a lot of uh gelatine and tendon, and I just

1023
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 2: decided to kind of Asian poissen sauce soy sauce. Put

1024
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: a little bit of barbecue sauce in there. I thought,

1025
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 2: I just kind of do uh do like a stew

1026
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: saucy type dish and throw it over rice and just

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01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 2: lots of onions. Threw it in the pressure cooker. And

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01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 2: maybe there is a photo up there, but it looks

1029
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 2: honestly like that. That's what was left out of from

1030
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 2: it after I realized that I should have taken a photo.

1031
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 2: But it doesn't look fancy. It, you know, looked like

1032
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 2: a pile of uh meat. Yeah yeahatop in a little containers.

1033
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: Doesn't look so appetizing, but but it tasted.

1034
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of my improv wild game

1035
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 3: dishes end up looking like that.

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01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: Pressure cookers a ground tool utilized on a plate. Yeah,

1037
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: great tool to utilize. Oh yeah, and then cal I

1038
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: can bring up I can bring up yours. Just give

1039
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: me give me one sec here. So I was explaining

1040
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: to Phil earlier that I don't know how many of

1041
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: you folks use Instagram reels ig, but I always have

1042
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: this like, oh, I'm gonna actually put something together here,

1043
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: and I have this epiphany of how with a little

1044
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: extra work I could make it really good. And that's

1045
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: the point at which I'm like, eh, I'm not going

1046
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: to do that. So, yeah, this is just your your

1047
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, French dip, which it was a real staple

1048
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: growing up. You'd have like your pot roast one night,

1049
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: French dip the next night. Where Christmas time be like

1050
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: a prime rib type of deal. Your wild game meats

1051
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: can be very fantastic Deli meats. There's no reason to

1052
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: not just take a big roast and put it on

1053
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: the smoker or you know, even in the oven, and

1054
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: then just slice that whole thing really thin. That's all

1055
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: I did here. And then yeah.

1056
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 3: Just eat it right over the stove.

1057
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: What do you do to make that?

1058
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: Well? So the the auju that that it's just bone bro.

1059
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 3: We got to talk over the music so we don't

1060
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 3: get dinged. Yeah, this is great.

1061
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 5: I don't think I can adjust the volume on Instagram.

1062
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 5: This might be a problem highlight, but.

1063
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: Talk over so we don't get ding Yeah, just keep talking,

1064
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: that's exactly the mode. Yeah, good smash a sando like that. Kids,

1065
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: looks great the audio now, but I wanted to give

1066
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: a taste.

1067
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:39,959
Speaker 3: Yeah that's good, that's good.

1068
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: And then the yeah, the AJ that's that's bone bra

1069
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: so I'll I'll pack out as many bones as I

1070
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: can and then put those in a big pressure cooker

1071
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: and new come for thirty minutes and then strain it

1072
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: out and can it. So a lot of a lot

1073
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: of time with the pressure cooker. Oh and yeah, it's

1074
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: I have not I.

1075
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 2: Have like a couple of huge elk bones that I

1076
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: haven't cut.

1077
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that stuff is like so reduced that

1078
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: the liquids like tacky like candy and it just makes Yeah,

1079
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: it's so good, so good. Get it blustery cold day

1080
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: and get some bone stock out, or like when we

1081
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: make wantons, We'll make a ton of wantons and then

1082
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: just freeze them and then you crack open a jar

1083
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: your bone broth and dump wantons in there, and it's

1084
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: like instant wanton soup. It's killer, really good, really good.

1085
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: But hey, use your if you get if you're like

1086
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm so sick of having big roasts and things, just

1087
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: slice those things into deli meat and it actually freezes

1088
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: just fine if you vaccial deli meat together, which I've

1089
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: done for like a bunch of our shoots and and things,

1090
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: because like always really depresses me to leave this freezer

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01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: of awesome meat, go on a shoot, and the first

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01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: place he goes Walmart to go buy a bunch of

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01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: crappy deli meat instead just making it at home. Yeah,

1094
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: that's the point it Yeah, yeah, all right, those are

1095
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: our recipes. Ish, let us know how inspired you are

1096
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: by writing Anne, because we love our instant gratification.

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01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 3: Phil, speaking of that instant gratification, what's going on in

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01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 3: the chat?

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01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 5: Well, Colton asked doctor Randall. The movie reviews are a

1100
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 5: great idea. Any interest in a monthly book club? I

1101
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 5: think we've talked about this briefly, but there's a reason

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01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 5: that we went with movies instead of books.

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01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, there there, I mean, there's always interest in a

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01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 3: monthly book club. I've gotten a number of requests for

1105
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 3: reading lists related to mountain men and long hunter things.

1106
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 3: So I'm going to work on maybe a reading list

1107
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 3: for the website on those topics, and then maybe you'll

1108
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 3: just get a wacky reading list too, books about dinosaurs

1109
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 3: and World War two and serial killers.

1110
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 5: What's next, Phil Mogor, Our good friend Mogor, says Carinn Prin.

1111
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: He's for your feet picture.

1112
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 5: It's ugly but tasty in my language. Randa Dphenom I

1113
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 5: do not know how to. I can't do a Hungarian

1114
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 5: accents and I will not try. But he says, believe me,

1115
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 5: it sounds really good and Hungarian. So he's offering some

1116
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 5: words of support.

1117
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: Thanks for that.

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01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Quite ugly but tasty. Thank you.

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01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see.

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Speaker 5: Ron asks Randall, have you ever had a Salan's hot

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01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 5: dog from Buffalo, New York.

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01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 3: I have not. I have not, but I'm intrigued. I

1123
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 3: will take this moment to shout out my friend Eric

1124
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 3: in Nebraska, who just sent me a whole bunch of

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01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 3: Wimmers hot dogs, which are a regional staple there. He

1126
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 3: said me a few varieties, along with some famous Nebraska

1127
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 3: sauces and cal and I have been plotting up a

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01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,759
Speaker 3: taste test at some point. So yeah, I'd be interested

1129
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 3: to learn more about Salein's dogs. But I haven't been

1130
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 3: to Buffalo in a good long while.

1131
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 2: Ron, if you feel like mailing doctor Randall a package

1132
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 2: of those.

1133
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I mean, I love it, but

1134
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 3: i'd encourage you not to. After seeing how much money

1135
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 3: Eric spent on postage to send hot dogs across the country.

1136
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 1: A lot of hot dog content a beautiful gesture. A

1137
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people don't know. In fact,

1138
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: my significant other was just shocked to find out that

1139
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: Randal and I met at a hot dog stands and

1140
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: you'll die in front of the hot.

1141
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 3: Red hots and catch them. Uh.

1142
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 5: Dermond Donnelly asked your face, Dermid, Oh, I've never seen

1143
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,839
Speaker 5: this Welsh Dermid spelled that way. Well, I learned Scottish

1144
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 5: favorite store bought fish coating like like I'm guessing, like

1145
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 5: a fry like a like a fry coating if you

1146
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 5: have one, because they're not too hard to make it home,

1147
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 5: I would guess.

1148
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not too picky. Try to find something

1149
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 1: that seems simple. So yeah, you're just like your old

1150
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: fish fry stuff. Yeah, not real helpful here.

1151
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if this counts as a coating, but

1152
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 3: the I like the Tony shasheris spice blend.

1153
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Tony's is good. I don't think I've ever

1154
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: bought I think I just flour or corn meal and

1155
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 2: a spice mix.

1156
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah I do. I mean panco with a little bit

1157
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: of corn starch and white pepper is a good good

1158
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: way to go on a little garlic powder.

1159
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 5: Well, Rashad you asked a great trapping question, but I

1160
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 5: will hold off on that until Seth or Steve are here,

1161
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 5: unless Cal and Randall think they want to.

1162
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: My best I can do is quote Wayne's World on that.

1163
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 3: I'd take a swing, but it wouldn't be helpful to you, Rashad,

1164
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 3: my friend, let's.

1165
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 5: Pass over Taylor made outdoors. Hey, new meat eater fam

1166
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 5: is brought into the world this morning at five am,

1167
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 5: a month early, so she's in the nick you, but

1168
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,759
Speaker 5: she's beautiful and we'll be raised with meat eater parenting

1169
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 5: slash Children's thanks for watching the show next to your

1170
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:24,480
Speaker 5: newborn and your wife who was in the hospital.

1171
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 3: I know that from one of my many stays.

1172
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 5: Yes, I like this question. I don't know how you

1173
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,759
Speaker 5: guys are going to answer it. Brad asks what animal

1174
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 5: do you shamelessly wish was a game animal that is

1175
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 5: not and never will be?

1176
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 3: Real weird and interesting question, Brad, thank you.

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01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 3: I mean the obvious one for me is wild horses.

1179
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 3: They are there, they have a tremendous ecological cost.

1180
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

1181
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 3: They're they're terrible for the health of our landscape, and

1182
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 3: they're large animals that evolved on this continent. So there's

1183
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 3: people have been hunting horses for a real long time,

1184
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 3: but now we don't thanks to the Wild Horse and

1185
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 3: bro Protection Act. I'm to think of another one that's weirder,

1186
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 3: but I'll turn it over to my colleagues while I

1187
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 3: chew on that.

1188
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: Oh I love that one.

1189
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great one. Yeah.

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01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's like you had this amazing vehicle that

1191
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 1: you could also eat, and then emotions just ran rampant

1192
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh no, that's not for eating.

1193
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 2: Have you guys eaten horse?

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01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1195
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: I have to.

1196
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, both like little like sashimi type horse and then

1197
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: sausage too.

1198
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 2: Done like a precuto type cured meat, cured but never

1199
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 2: a sashimi, yeah type.

1200
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 3: What about you manates, panda bears?

1201
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:58,719
Speaker 1: I think sea lions for us non.

1202
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 3: Predators.

1203
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, sea lions would be yeah, because those sons of guns.

1204
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: Like you're swimming, Imagine you're with a bunch of folks

1205
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: that you don't know all that well but you trust,

1206
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: and you're way off the coast of California and you're

1207
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: diving into the not great visibility Pacific Ocean out there,

1208
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,560
Speaker 1: and you go through the dark and the murk in

1209
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: the top like twenty feet of the water column, and

1210
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: then right about the time you can start seeing some

1211
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 1: sort of structure on the bottom, this big, huge fang

1212
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: tooth monster pops up right in your face and blows

1213
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:49,919
Speaker 1: bubbles at you. And you're trying to control your breathing

1214
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: so as you don't die. I'd like to just I'd

1215
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: like to eat one, kill one, eat one. And our

1216
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: friend Heather de Ville is just telling me that the

1217
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: sea lions they have a way more mild, more palatable

1218
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: taste than than like seals do. Interesting. Yeah, yep, marine creatures.

1219
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: That's wild bill Bill is asking. I'm sure directed at

1220
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,959
Speaker 1: cal do feral cats count? Oh, feral cats count for sure?

1221
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: For sure. That's another stigma we got to get rid

1222
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: of in this in this country, feral cats should be

1223
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 1: shot on site. Period. Oh yeah, you can definitely eat

1224
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: those little disease written creatures for sure, for sure.

1225
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are vectors for some weird pathogens.

1226
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 2: I feel, yes, but probably shouldn't eat them because.

1227
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: Ye are pregnant lady, or used to be pregnant lady.

1228
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: She couldn't be around cats. So yeah, yeah, but birds

1229
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: because they're a little disease carrying but they.

1230
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 3: Kill a lot of birds, and there are reports coming

1231
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 3: out all the time about birds being in trouble.

1232
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: Bird populations, oh, directly linked to the extinction of several species.

1233
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: And yeah, like we need yeah they Yeah, we're prioritizing

1234
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: some little killing machine that shouldn't be there over native

1235
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: species and it's it's insane. Billions of birds and mammals,

1236
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 1: small mammals. Yeah, good, thank you for bringing up the cats.

1237
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 3: Shout out bill.

1238
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 5: He means that to hut out in the bottom of

1239
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 5: his heart. I'm gonna be selfish and steal the last question. Yeah,

1240
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 5: Leland asked what's the status of the Meat Eater Crew

1241
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 5: D and D campaign. So I've actually been thinking about

1242
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 5: this a lot over a year ago. At the company

1243
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 5: Christmas party, not this last Christmas, but the Christmas before,

1244
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 5: Spencer came up to me after a couple of beers

1245
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 5: and say, a Phil, I was thinking, like, can we

1246
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 5: switch up trivia a little bit. I'm thinking like a

1247
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 5: like a murder mystery party based on the fish heist, which,

1248
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,799
Speaker 5: if you don't know, some fish was stolen quote unquote

1249
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 5: out of the freezer in the office that Steve brought

1250
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 5: back from Alaska or something.

1251
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: No one caught to it. No one admitted to taking

1252
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: the fish.

1253
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 5: It's still it's still out there somewhere or has been

1254
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 5: passed and is you know, has been left to the

1255
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 5: great cycle. But but we it was never solved. And

1256
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 5: then I laughed and thought that'd be a lot of work,

1257
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 5: if that'd be a lot of fun. And then about

1258
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 5: a year past, and then just a couple months ago,

1259
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 5: I had like a shower thought of like, man, that'd

1260
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 5: be a really good like D and D one shot. Yea,

1261
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 5: So I have been I have been writing this D

1262
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 5: and D one shot based on the fish heist. I'm

1263
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,759
Speaker 5: like seventy percent done. I've got it like all mapped

1264
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 5: out in my head. I just got to find players.

1265
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 5: Cal you're currently on NPC in the game, but if

1266
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 5: you want to be a player, I.

1267
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: Would love to have you at the table. Oh dude,

1268
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm totally yeah, totally same with same with you, Karin.

1269
01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 1: And long as you have the patience for a first timer, yeah, of.

1270
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 3: Course, tuned up and watch YouTube videos and how to

1271
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 3: play D and D and then I'll be set.

1272
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I I So anyway, I'm really excited about it.

1273
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 5: I don't know when it's gonna happen because I want

1274
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:10,600
Speaker 5: to have a SaaS session where we play like a

1275
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 5: different game than teach people how to play and then

1276
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 5: jump into this thing. But if if I get the

1277
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 5: green light, because I would like to record it, and

1278
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 5: if we if it's good and fun and I get

1279
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 5: the green light to like drop it on the YouTube channel,

1280
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 5: I would love to do that. So that's that is

1281
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,759
Speaker 5: what's happening right now. Anyway, I hope it happens.

1282
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 3: Thanks for your trivia questions.

1283
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so big heads up to everybody. Next week is

1284
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:41,879
Speaker 1: Turkey Week. What that means is we in the meu

1285
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: me Eater universe.

1286
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 3: I like it.

1287
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: We'll be talking turkey all across the board, Turkey calling,

1288
01:17:53,560 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: Turkey photos, turkey stuff, So pay attention to the We

1289
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: are going to be doing some giveaways. There's a Turkey

1290
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: photo contest. We are going to give away a free

1291
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: to you first light tree Line Turkey Vest, which is

1292
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: a brand new vest, new phelps Turkey calls. I played

1293
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 1: around with some diaphrams the other day that were really

1294
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: good and the mule Tree mule Tree Edge two cellcam.

1295
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 1: Send your best turkey photos to radio at the meat

1296
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: eater dot com and If you think a normal grippin

1297
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 1: grant is going to win this contest, you're dead wrong.

1298
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: We want to see something different. A photo of your

1299
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: unique ornamental turkey trophy hanging in your man cave or lady,

1300
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: a fun pit, you know whatever cave, a fun pick

1301
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 1: of your kids getting in on the action, or a

1302
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: breath taking landscape shot of your turkey honey hole through

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Speaker 1: the mist and under day breaks sunrays. Interesting way write that.

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Speaker 1: We will showcase the top three photos during next week's episode.

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Speaker 1: Hosts will then pick a winner to receive a prize

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Speaker 1: turkey package, which means you get a tune in, be involved,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna know live Meat Eater Radio live whether

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Speaker 1: you want or not, which is always fun.

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Speaker 3: I'll be I'll be one of the judges. So if

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Speaker 3: you have a photo that you think speaks to me

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Speaker 3: and my sensibilities, my aesthetic tastes, please give yourself, do

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Speaker 3: yourself a favor and enter that bad boy radio at

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Speaker 3: the meeteater dot com. That's radio at the meeteater dot com.

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Speaker 1: All right, gang, that's all we have for today's show.

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Speaker 1: As always, thank you for tuning in. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: again next week.

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Speaker 2: See you next week Rock on