Speaker 1: Money. We are thank take we are the authority. And
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, my name is Tank. This it's the
Speaker 1: R and B Money Podcast, the authority on all things
Speaker 1: R and B. See you think you think R and
Speaker 1: B is local, local joker? You you think it's local?
Speaker 1: Huh RB a local today tonight. I don't know what
Speaker 1: time it is where you watching it? Arms got international,
Speaker 1: huh just elevated. Yeah, it's not just no American thing. No,
Speaker 1: it's not just no American thing. I mean there was
Speaker 1: there was an American boy of all. But it's just
Speaker 1: American thing, you know that. See what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: have a love one in the building, a superstar in
Speaker 1: the building. She does it all man makes an Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. How you doing? I'm doing awesome? Girls, It's great.
Speaker 1: Just going to the access beginning. Just talk you know
Speaker 1: the way I normally talk right now, you know, try
Speaker 1: to make you know, accommodate. Sure he feels what is happening.
Speaker 1: This guy, you know, he's from the hood, so I
Speaker 1: have to make what I have to make sure he's
Speaker 1: you know, accommodated. But now it's about it's not terrible,
Speaker 1: but it's just like a boy. Oh my gosh, and
Speaker 1: it's a new They keep me here and how you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm here amongst the madness and King George? What are
Speaker 1: you both good? Great? We are good. We are happy
Speaker 1: to have you. I love I mean, you know you're dope.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I think you're I think you know, talent
Speaker 1: wise and all of the cool things, like all that
Speaker 1: is cool. But you know, your energy has been a
Speaker 1: thousand percent consistent and on just a godly angelic level
Speaker 1: since the first day I met you. And that's that's
Speaker 1: really cool and rare. Yeah. Now, you genuinely are a sweetheart.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, I've always felt that every time I'm
Speaker 1: in your presence, like this is just a sweet person,
Speaker 1: and it's tough to remain that way. Yeah, Like you
Speaker 1: may start off, you know what I'm saying, and then
Speaker 1: you really get into this ship. Yeah, and you really
Speaker 1: start to go through some things. You start really seeing
Speaker 1: the colors and the skins on these people, and it
Speaker 1: can turn you, it can turn you different. Well, I
Speaker 1: have been there, you know, like, and I always say that,
Speaker 1: well I've said recently you have to go there to
Speaker 1: know that you want to stay sweet and you want
Speaker 1: to stay cool, you know, because it's this, this whole world,
Speaker 1: not just the industry, is designed to make you realize
Speaker 1: and see and face your shadow side, which is to me,
Speaker 1: the mean side. You know, once you get cool with it,
Speaker 1: I would say, I play nice with my shadows. I'm
Speaker 1: clear where they are, I know what they look like.
Speaker 1: I choose not to go there frequently, you know, And
Speaker 1: and I don't take a lot of stuff personal anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, so that helps me stay Yeah, all right, man,
Speaker 1: you're just probably having a bad day. I might be
Speaker 1: having a bad day. I'll give myself grace. I think
Speaker 1: the personal part of it is a tough bar because
Speaker 1: as an artist, everything feels like an attack on you personally.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's all an attacks that's just not good? What
Speaker 1: do you mean? It's not good? And you'd be like,
Speaker 1: you don't know why I went through? How dare you now?
Speaker 1: But maybe sometimes it ain't and and it's okay for
Speaker 1: it not to be. Sometimes it's just a fact, you know,
Speaker 1: it's okay, it's okay that not everybody feels the way you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's totally fine. And so then you just start to
Speaker 1: you start to zero in on the people who do
Speaker 1: that part. And I believe what you put your energies.
Speaker 1: Who was multiplies and so like, I worry about the
Speaker 1: people worry about me in the greatest of ways, and
Speaker 1: anybody else who doesn't or just just doesn't for the
Speaker 1: sake of doesn't. Maybe that's I'm not your vibe. Maybe
Speaker 1: we ain't in the same energy feel Maybe you're there
Speaker 1: to let me know that there's harmony in the world,
Speaker 1: and that's okay. It took me a minute to even
Speaker 1: get that though, you know, because social media really had
Speaker 1: a good hold on me. Um, just in terms of
Speaker 1: these negative conversations. Oh yeah, I wanted to I wanted
Speaker 1: to talk back. Sometimes you have to do it, though,
Speaker 1: It's okay, all right, up, like A in the morning said,
Speaker 1: can you please stop arguing with with girl forty eight
Speaker 1: nine not a real girl. You're literally you're literally fighting goes.
Speaker 1: It takes up to me. It takes like a big
Speaker 1: amount of personal presence or just being like here right
Speaker 1: to like even walk yourself off that ledge. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: hate I used to never be this person to be
Speaker 1: like nah f concastle like out here. So I'm up
Speaker 1: and then and it was just like, is it changing
Speaker 1: the price of my mortgage is it coloring my days?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it protecting my mom more? Is it?
Speaker 1: None of that? None of it. I don't care about
Speaker 1: you none, none of it. Like I had to say
Speaker 1: it out, I don't care about you people, and move
Speaker 1: along because I have drafts some days these thumbs yeah
Speaker 1: what yeah? And then then some days when I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, now, what's your mouth? Like be careful? And
Speaker 1: sometimes the statement is what's your mouth? That's it? And
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, And I always I always wonder, and
Speaker 1: I guess it's because I've just been on the other
Speaker 1: side of it for so long. At this point with
Speaker 1: the business side, is you know, I'm gonna step away
Speaker 1: from being a creative. You guys are here, but you're
Speaker 1: a creative too, Yes, but I'm going to step out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna step out and step out of the circle
Speaker 1: and ask a question, would it just take too much
Speaker 1: time to reply to all the love? Because y'all find
Speaker 1: the hate hate hate finds out. I'm literally just I'm
Speaker 1: generally just asking that question because there will be so
Speaker 1: much love blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, the one thing, but you hate it, see it?
Speaker 1: Like I'm going to cut your ass out. No, see
Speaker 1: it as a party, right, See it as it's almost
Speaker 1: a celebration you're hosting. It's your party. You're in the
Speaker 1: party and you're dancing, see everybody, everybody stinks up a
Speaker 1: good time and you point the finger in you may
Speaker 1: and then that's that one person comes up and completely
Speaker 1: stops the record, grabs the DJ's mind said, this is
Speaker 1: a bunch of bullshit. It should ain't even hot like that. Now.
Speaker 1: I was like, so, in the in the midst of
Speaker 1: enjoying all the love, that negative comment or whatever completely
Speaker 1: interrupts the party. Okay, and pay attention to it more
Speaker 1: because of that, because we're having such a good time
Speaker 1: in these comments, such a great time. But then there's
Speaker 1: also the perspective of like you give them the power
Speaker 1: to stop the party? Is that Is that that big
Speaker 1: of a deal what they said, right? Not that not
Speaker 1: that some of the things ain't real. And before you
Speaker 1: reply to it, to me, it's kind of like the
Speaker 1: way you read it, I was like, I've had to
Speaker 1: actively do this, like give it empathy, right that person
Speaker 1: I go down there pay for response sometimes and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're just having a bad week, or you just feel
Speaker 1: like this is your emo. I don't. I'm not allowing
Speaker 1: you to be that big of a deal in my
Speaker 1: day this week. So no, I'm not even responding to it.
Speaker 1: I won't let you stop the record. You should refer
Speaker 1: to your third post before you continue. You want me
Speaker 1: to repost that for you. I really, I really be
Speaker 1: laughing better, you know, don't even but like I'll see
Speaker 1: something that somebody says about I'll be laughing at it,
Speaker 1: laugh well, and it's and it also like it also
Speaker 1: like I had to think about, like before it even
Speaker 1: got to this point, and things that I would hear
Speaker 1: about people that I knew it. I was like, that's
Speaker 1: not true. Yeah, it's not the stuff they're doing, right,
Speaker 1: I'm just hanging out. Everybody's going an opinion and everybody
Speaker 1: I tried to give us money empathy because guess what,
Speaker 1: ever be a day when I get it completely wrong
Speaker 1: and I just want empathy. Yes, So I try my hardest,
Speaker 1: like I have to like concertedly do it. I say,
Speaker 1: because I'm on look, you say I'm sweet every day,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like it's a concerned effort to make
Speaker 1: sure that my spirit and everything stays in the right space.
Speaker 1: I self correct as quick as I can. You know, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not owed it. I didn't. I didn't. I worked
Speaker 1: for this life. But there's there's God too, and he
Speaker 1: gave me this, and I don't play about it, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't play about me. So I'm more beholden to
Speaker 1: God than I am to anybody and anything else. Like no,
Speaker 1: so serious. So I like, it's a conscious thing. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a real morning, middle of the day, you know,
Speaker 1: and so the stuff, I'm human, Yeah, I go through it.
Speaker 1: But the empathy part for me helps me to let
Speaker 1: me just see what you going through this week. Look
Speaker 1: at what you said on your Instagram pick. Someone told
Speaker 1: me I pose like an old lady, and I went
Speaker 1: to custom out and then I went down his page
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is a twelve year old,
Speaker 1: so of course I'm old. Yeah, it's about right. I
Speaker 1: want to be like I wanted to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: your mom. You know I'm probably your mom, so you
Speaker 1: probably think, yeah, it's about right before we move on,
Speaker 1: because I was about to move on, but then you
Speaker 1: said old and old used to bother me so bad,
Speaker 1: you used to I'm with it, though, like i'd rather
Speaker 1: get old than die like that old ass nigga. You ain't. No,
Speaker 1: I'm appreciative when they call me up. No, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not unk, old ass nigga and the negative derogatory clap
Speaker 1: at me, old ass nigga. What you're doing commenting here?
Speaker 1: What you're doing here in the shade? Run? No, Uncle's different,
Speaker 1: Uncle's reverence, respectful, old nigga Like whatever you're like, calm down, same,
Speaker 1: are the same? Rung calmed out? How you taking a
Speaker 1: picture like that? You old ass nigga? Like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: Richelia Rachel all right. Still. Yeah, we like to we
Speaker 1: like to start the beginning. Yeah, we like to go
Speaker 1: all the way back to the uk UK. We like
Speaker 1: to know when first time, first time someone saw it,
Speaker 1: or first time you felt it. I got something, discovered
Speaker 1: that gift. Oh when I was like all right, when
Speaker 1: I was like nine or something, at church and I
Speaker 1: sang this song called Makeway for Love, I think like
Speaker 1: it was a cover of a choir song, um, some
Speaker 1: gospel choir and I didn't think I was good because
Speaker 1: my friend you had the better voice, the gospel voice, right,
Speaker 1: And I was like they were like, yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 1: sing it, and I was like, I practiced so hard,
Speaker 1: so hard, and Sunday morning I went and I sang it,
Speaker 1: and everyone stood up and collapped, and it was like,
Speaker 1: yeahin't I was like, and you know, and then build
Speaker 1: it from there, you know, every I realized that, you know,
Speaker 1: I was in quiet. So I learned I'm a natural
Speaker 1: alto and I could. I'm really good at it. And
Speaker 1: then I started learning how to sing all the different
Speaker 1: ranges and all the different things, and and it was
Speaker 1: just from there. And then I realized that like no
Speaker 1: one could really sing as deep as I could sing
Speaker 1: at the time, um for like a twelve year old,
Speaker 1: thirteen year old, And like I learned all the rangers,
Speaker 1: and I would start arranging with my cousins and my
Speaker 1: nieces and my cousins and my sisters. It's nine of us. Um,
Speaker 1: it's nine of us. Told all the time as three
Speaker 1: girls in the group. And then my cousin and my
Speaker 1: little friend from down the street and was in the group.
Speaker 1: We thought, we're Black Street and Joe the season, Wily,
Speaker 1: where do you fit in the number, my oldest girl,
Speaker 1: You're the oldest girl's second oldest, second oldest. So it
Speaker 1: starts off with just you and your big brother. No,
Speaker 1: it starts off with me and my two younger sisters
Speaker 1: and then my cousin. You know, I'm saying as far
Speaker 1: as in the family. So it starts out with your
Speaker 1: big brother than you. Yeah, big brother than me, and
Speaker 1: then right behind me was my two year little sisters.
Speaker 1: And so it was like one year, two years apart,
Speaker 1: one year apart, two years apart to me and my brother.
Speaker 1: I was cracking in your house. Yeah. My mom is
Speaker 1: a g I do not aspire. She's just amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll get my dad is incredible to um. They're like
Speaker 1: they inspire me in a whole different way. The story there,
Speaker 1: that's what I wrote Love is rock about um. But
Speaker 1: at the time, she was married to my stepdad for
Speaker 1: much of my childhood and that's when we were in church. Um.
Speaker 1: They break up when I was nineteen, and they get
Speaker 1: back together when I was twenty three. Um, my mom
Speaker 1: and my real dad get back together when I was
Speaker 1: twenty three. Wow. And then they have stories they did,
Speaker 1: Yeah I missed you, We got all the sys. What
Speaker 1: we're gonna do? Mom? Dad, d you see the sere
Speaker 1: But no, they their story was they met had me
Speaker 1: and my three sisters. Two sisters split up when I
Speaker 1: was three, got back together when I was twenty three.
Speaker 1: I got mad when I'll stay three. Wow. So it's
Speaker 1: been a right, it's been a riding. Yeah. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: spend the time. But we were allays just it was
Speaker 1: always church, it was always reggae music, it was always so,
Speaker 1: it was always African. It was always all the things,
Speaker 1: y'all just mixing it. Yeah, yeah, like church, reggae, gospel, gospel, pop,
Speaker 1: all of it. So so in the UK is that
Speaker 1: a thing though? For like for black families there, we're
Speaker 1: just like we're mixing all of it. Yeah, Like you're
Speaker 1: in the house and you're playing all the gospel, all
Speaker 1: the solo, the reggae or the dance or or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then you go to school and it's like spanned
Speaker 1: out ballet and like Yaz and like wherever, pop group,
Speaker 1: Spice Girls, whoever. And then you come go to church
Speaker 1: and it's Karen Clark and it's you know, Donald Lawrence
Speaker 1: and all of them, and my favorite rates like she like,
Speaker 1: oh gosh, I got to interview them and I was
Speaker 1: just like um, and then you know, and then so
Speaker 1: like all of that just mixes up. It's just it's
Speaker 1: just whatever was good stuck. Yeah, you know that's crazy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean because I find I'm fine, Like I find
Speaker 1: like the traditional roots still exist in the UK, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, especially for R and B music.
Speaker 1: Yea so army. It would be like you hear the
Speaker 1: story and I guess the idea is that R and
Speaker 1: B artists will get like extradited or they were going
Speaker 1: tour and be famous in Europe. In the UK, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so our appreciation for them was different because we
Speaker 1: saw them far more often and in more celebrated ways
Speaker 1: back in the day than they were celebrated in the US. Right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, for instance, when I know that when he
Speaker 1: first came out, someone like music Soul Child would be
Speaker 1: in the UK regularly. Yeah, And it was the same
Speaker 1: for hip hop groups, and it was the same for
Speaker 1: you know, like just R and B legends. They're always
Speaker 1: they tore consistently in the UK, all the festivals, all
Speaker 1: the soul beaches, whatevers. It's made up of legendary American artists.
Speaker 1: So we saw them like when I was twelve, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen, I was like glad as night and you know,
Speaker 1: like seeing real music regular day. I used to be
Speaker 1: jealous about that because all of my from genuine my
Speaker 1: first overseas tour was with him in ninety eight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I used to see Joe going over there like
Speaker 1: crazy of course you said music soul Child, Carl Thomas,
Speaker 1: all these guys going over there. I'd be like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to go do that. And I never got
Speaker 1: an opportunity to really build a touring base, you know, overseas.
Speaker 1: But I mean I do, I do well now, but
Speaker 1: I'm still like, like, take Joe for instance, Yes, like
Speaker 1: most times when I go on like I'm on his ticket,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because Joe over there is.
Speaker 1: But he had the opportunity of course. Yeah, he really
Speaker 1: got dug in. Yeah Joe, it's Joe. Yeah, like not again, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe jacketed like John b like those guys, like guys
Speaker 1: over there. You know, I remember a TDT went over there,
Speaker 1: and we have been doing our thing over here in
Speaker 1: the States, and you know, the screams are great in
Speaker 1: the States. It's exciting. Yeah, but we walked out on
Speaker 1: that hammer Smith Apolo. States different, it's different. Yourself was like, listen,
Speaker 1: it was so different that before we were walking out
Speaker 1: on stage, me and Genuine had damn, they're cussed out
Speaker 1: Tyrese and had went upstairs and made our own dressing
Speaker 1: room in another room, left him downstairs, right like we're
Speaker 1: always about to fight. And we come downstairs, they playing
Speaker 1: the intro music, were all about to go on stage.
Speaker 1: Tyres is standing right there, me and Genuine is standing
Speaker 1: over here like this, standing on Twitter. Go we on tour.
Speaker 1: I do something to him. No, I do something to
Speaker 1: him to have a Tyres question, all right, sorry to
Speaker 1: cut you, Okay, No, what what's this? What's this like?
Speaker 1: Coming off? This was coming off with a black tie era, right, yes?
Speaker 1: So was it just like could it have been remnants
Speaker 1: of the black tie energy? No, it's just m So
Speaker 1: that's my brother. I love him. It's just Tyres. It No,
Speaker 1: no remnants of nothing. It's just I can tell you sorry.
Speaker 1: So we are literally about to walk on stage, divided,
Speaker 1: not even talking to each other, like on some like
Speaker 1: beef real beef. Yeah. And we start walking out on
Speaker 1: that stage and the building starts to shake and we
Speaker 1: just all look at each other like like a five
Speaker 1: heartbeat and it's that moment, you know, for me in
Speaker 1: London that always gives me hope for you know, for
Speaker 1: of course our group, but just R and B period,
Speaker 1: because I know there's a place like I know there's
Speaker 1: I know there are places they really love this R
Speaker 1: and B music. Yeah, yeah, it's it's like that. It's
Speaker 1: it's unexplainable. It's unexplainable, and I love seeing it every
Speaker 1: single time I see like an artis school women and
Speaker 1: like look at this Hampson Apolo, Brixton Academy, whatever, whatever,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, yeah, we love it, like this
Speaker 1: is this is it. And so there's a certain amount
Speaker 1: of truth that you're forced to do if you're coming
Speaker 1: up as an R and B artist in the UK.
Speaker 1: There's no version of this that that we're going to
Speaker 1: allow you to kind of she mean, shake your way
Speaker 1: into it and just kind of be okay, like they're
Speaker 1: gonna drew you down. Let me he's seeing a Cappello
Speaker 1: over and over again. I mean when you said in
Speaker 1: the lyrics, let me see what you look like consistently
Speaker 1: and are you real? And do we know your family?
Speaker 1: And how far back into the island seat. People just
Speaker 1: want to know everybody because your journey, yeah, your musical journey,
Speaker 1: having to prove and show up and show out, yes, consistently.
Speaker 1: So it's not it's not a thought in my head
Speaker 1: to pop out and have to do something, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm convicted. I know what I'm walking with and
Speaker 1: I'm good so when I do call up. No. I
Speaker 1: was with the crew Black Fang and he's an artist
Speaker 1: in the UK and he had me come and wrap
Speaker 1: on one of his records. This is the short version,
Speaker 1: and I think at the time and the error it
Speaker 1: was Miss Dynamite who was out and I was doing
Speaker 1: my thing on the underground. I wasn't you know, everyone
Speaker 1: knew me but hadn't had a record out. And I
Speaker 1: kept going to the labels and kept having records and
Speaker 1: they kept like self produced, I self distributed all well.
Speaker 1: I was singing still with an apostrophe in the middle
Speaker 1: of I don't know, um, that's nonsense, but here we are.
Speaker 1: And so he put me on it. It was like yo,
Speaker 1: just rap and so I wrapped on it and people
Speaker 1: started knowing me around the UK and Europe as this girl,
Speaker 1: and I took every opportunity to go on the road
Speaker 1: with him. But that was the moment when people were like, oh,
Speaker 1: and then it was me. I didn't look like. I
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to be I wasn't putting myself in any
Speaker 1: other lane that they thought I should look like, be
Speaker 1: like feel like. I was just like, this is me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wrap like how I rap. And people were like, yo,
Speaker 1: this this girl. They was feeling it. So and from
Speaker 1: there on, age just kind of like doors were opened.
Speaker 1: Doors were opened, doors are open. But we were working
Speaker 1: at the same time, you know. Every time he was
Speaker 1: like come to Europe, come to wherever, Come do the
Speaker 1: show in Germany, Come do this tour in Spain, come
Speaker 1: do this stuff I was doing that, I would move out.
Speaker 1: I would go do it, and then I would also
Speaker 1: be producing my own records. I would also be like
Speaker 1: doing my own records like China Work. Yeah. I was
Speaker 1: all of the things independently, read the books, figured out
Speaker 1: I needed a distributor, got a distribute, recorded demos that
Speaker 1: sounded ridiculously terrible, putting them on this mixtape, put them
Speaker 1: out like moved, you know, and this point I'm like,
Speaker 1: at this point, I'm like twenty but one, twenty one,
Speaker 1: twenty but I've been doing it since I was seventeen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: producing your own stuff. Yeah, just trying to find a way, Yes,
Speaker 1: figuring it out. My mom's girl. So was there ever
Speaker 1: a time where you thought about going to school, I'm
Speaker 1: done with this, No, I did. I did. So our
Speaker 1: high school is college. Um so sixteen eighteen, so I was.
Speaker 1: I went to college for journalism. So the whole time.
Speaker 1: At the same time, I'm like working a day job,
Speaker 1: like several day jobs. So I had work in my
Speaker 1: suspenses grocery store, and then I worked to a company
Speaker 1: called Darker than Blue, which was a early in the
Speaker 1: game website about black music. So, okay player or yeah
Speaker 1: you know here we call it blue black Yeah, dark blue. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was named after the Curse may Full song were
Speaker 1: the people that are dark and and he they had
Speaker 1: me hide as the gigs that I wanted to be
Speaker 1: a writer. I wanted to just figure out how to
Speaker 1: be in music, how to be in this thing that
Speaker 1: I love so much. And my friend Fusion was like,
Speaker 1: do you know how to write reviews? I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I've write I've written all these stories. I was a
Speaker 1: usually creative kid. I had this folder full of stories
Speaker 1: and he was like, come on work for me. I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, cool. It was a gigs at it.
Speaker 1: So I would go to gigs and review him, and
Speaker 1: I would also be on stage at the gigs. Right,
Speaker 1: it was like yeah, like they But then it was
Speaker 1: also like parties too, so I had I built up
Speaker 1: a beautiful network of knowing all the parties, all the
Speaker 1: promoters and all the things. So it was a lot
Speaker 1: of love and ground swell when my first album came up,
Speaker 1: because people really knew me, you know, it was outside.
Speaker 1: They were happy for you. They were very happy. And
Speaker 1: that's still like that's the foundation of my career to
Speaker 1: a degree. You know, it's a lot of real love.
Speaker 1: You know, people saw me really working. Yeah, like going out,
Speaker 1: do the day job, go to the gig, go to
Speaker 1: sleep at like five in the morning, wake up at
Speaker 1: nine am, go back to work again every day. I
Speaker 1: love it. I love it. Was like they like the
Speaker 1: UK is a very territorial kind of place, like if
Speaker 1: if you have the back, they'll give you their backing
Speaker 1: and their blessing. Like they want to own they want
Speaker 1: this us, you know what I'm saying, Like like how
Speaker 1: Callie is or how New York Atlanta is like it's
Speaker 1: this very thing where it's like very much, this is
Speaker 1: ours Like people in my DMS and mentions all now,
Speaker 1: like when you're coming home and I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: even know you. What do you talk? Like? Why are
Speaker 1: you you never met? What are you saying? I missed
Speaker 1: your skinny man? Stop looking at that page? It's like,
Speaker 1: who is this akin? Maybe I know? Maybe I know
Speaker 1: he was he was two when I was moving around?
Speaker 1: What are you saying? But I appreciate it? So what
Speaker 1: was what was the breakout moment? Do you feel um
Speaker 1: in the world or just from there? Like I mean
Speaker 1: it starts there, but then I mean, I guess it'll
Speaker 1: translate to the world can do it? And the breakout
Speaker 1: moment for the world is or there was tricks to
Speaker 1: the world American boy had to be right? And so
Speaker 1: how do we get flight? Like why are we taking
Speaker 1: this flight from the UK? So tricks that happens. I'm building,
Speaker 1: I'm moving, I'm moving. I go to a label they
Speaker 1: say no, eventually end up signing to the same label
Speaker 1: via production company. Um, it's always a matter. It just
Speaker 1: becomes this repeating story of like, hey, I'm really good. Nah,
Speaker 1: somebody else brings me in. Oh she's good, right, sign Yeah,
Speaker 1: got that understood. It didn't quite get it the second
Speaker 1: time it happened, and this is all in the UK.
Speaker 1: Still though this is in the UK. UM I asked
Speaker 1: to be let go from the label because when we
Speaker 1: top twenties everything, everything's going great. Nineteen eighties record I
Speaker 1: have comes out and they don't believe it's going to
Speaker 1: do so well, but it does better than expected. We recoup.
Speaker 1: We're good, right. Second album comes around and I'm like,
Speaker 1: John Legend wants to help me work on this album?
Speaker 1: Is that produce it? Do you meet him somewhere in
Speaker 1: this time? So, in this period of time before I
Speaker 1: even sign the Steel and get out there, I'm still
Speaker 1: working on my mixtapes, doing stuff independently. I'm just convicted.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I need to meet this guy, John Legend.
Speaker 1: I heard all his records on this Kanye mixtape. I
Speaker 1: need to meet him. And that's when I go to La. Well,
Speaker 1: I pray God, I need two thousand dollars to get
Speaker 1: to La. I get I get a cool like within
Speaker 1: twenty four or forty eight hours, saying yo, go on
Speaker 1: tour with this girl jam media and do Rad Diggers
Speaker 1: parts on this guest record that she has with rad Digga. Cool.
Speaker 1: How much they pay in two thousand hounds? Right? Cool?
Speaker 1: So two thousands and this is when I'm like, no
Speaker 1: one can tell me. Nobody can tell me nothing about God. Okay,
Speaker 1: So go on this tour, get this two thousand pounds,
Speaker 1: go to America and I'm in LA and I'm working
Speaker 1: on more demos, and I would on the street. I'm
Speaker 1: just this is I'm playing this mixtape in the hotel
Speaker 1: room to the point my friend that come with me
Speaker 1: just rolling with me. He's like, oh, and I'm just like, nah,
Speaker 1: I feel something with this. I feel that I feel it.
Speaker 1: Walked down the street to Rusco's and Kanye's in there.
Speaker 1: I don't see John at all. I just thought Kanye
Speaker 1: for John, like, Yo, you're great, you know some of
Speaker 1: the same people I know. Listen, listen, listen. Can you
Speaker 1: are John? Yeah? I was like no, because I need
Speaker 1: to meet John. I have this song. I'm prepared. I
Speaker 1: have it on my dad tape. Right, I wasn't seeding
Speaker 1: the small CDs. It's like two thousand and two, two
Speaker 1: thousand and three, and we go to studio and meet John.
Speaker 1: He just takes you immediately. No, he um like this even.
Speaker 1: He's like, come to studio later. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you've never met this man in your life. No, You're like,
Speaker 1: but we know a couple of the same people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then we just started talking like this is this
Speaker 1: is God. He don't play about me, so don't play
Speaker 1: with so we're taught. Like He's like, comes to you.
Speaker 1: I was like, cool, I don't really think he's gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this gonna right. Yeah, he's not. He's not.
Speaker 1: It's probably a wrong number. He's like, yeah, come to Recomplant.
Speaker 1: So we'll go to Recomplant and I'm there freezing thinking
Speaker 1: this la. I didn't bring no co weather clothes, so
Speaker 1: it's cold by the time I get to the studio
Speaker 1: and I'm just want to go home. I don't like
Speaker 1: coal weather. And John's in the studio. Met John said hey,
Speaker 1: here's the song. Um, listen to it in your own
Speaker 1: time because I don't even know if it's like the
Speaker 1: snuff right now, and I'm all nervous. He's like cool, cool, cool. Um.
Speaker 1: A couple days later, he calls and he says, yeah,
Speaker 1: Kanye lights it says I can do it, so let
Speaker 1: me just do it, and then me and John get
Speaker 1: really cool, like he's like, yo, like you just your ballsy,
Speaker 1: like you got guts. I'm just like what we else?
Speaker 1: Like I'm supposed to be scared. I don't that gene
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. I don't know what that means. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: just like, thank you, cool, cool do the He comes
Speaker 1: to London, we build up a report and he sees
Speaker 1: me really working. He sees me like putting my money
Speaker 1: where my mouth is, and he says, come on the
Speaker 1: road with me. Because every time he comes on the
Speaker 1: road or goes on the road in the UK, we're
Speaker 1: promoting my album, which has since come out. He's done
Speaker 1: the record, it's come out, his album's gold, and he's
Speaker 1: winning all the Grammy's and doing it staying and he's touring,
Speaker 1: but he's taking me with him, and everybody's like, like,
Speaker 1: who is this? So when I go to the label
Speaker 1: at the end of this and everything's a success on
Speaker 1: our end and he's gold and they're like, who's John Legend?
Speaker 1: And I just want to punch a wall because I
Speaker 1: want it. Because he was like I was like, he's
Speaker 1: gonna Zet produce this album for me, which becomes Shine
Speaker 1: and has an American boy in it, and they're like,
Speaker 1: who's he? And I was just like, let me go?
Speaker 1: Can you? Can you drop me? Please? Drop me? This
Speaker 1: is nonsense. I was genuinely like, now, let me go, please,
Speaker 1: please let me go. It took them three years, so
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, five, six seven. It took them
Speaker 1: to two thousand and seven two A sign off Atlantica
Speaker 1: in I'm signed to John's label, the Atlantica Just like,
Speaker 1: what are this label doing? What the heck to the
Speaker 1: point where they were just like, we'll buy you out.
Speaker 1: We're good. Just it's twenty thousand dollars. Just we'll get
Speaker 1: it done right, Yeah yeah, And they buy me out
Speaker 1: the deal and I was like cool, And I come
Speaker 1: to the US. I've already been back and forth so much.
Speaker 1: I'm already pretty much in my deal and I'm moving
Speaker 1: and start from scratch because no one here knows me.
Speaker 1: Yeah whatever. That was weird because you know, I'm already
Speaker 1: me in London, I was Christian Luvertanz before they knew
Speaker 1: what luvertizer look out, look out. Yeah, I come here
Speaker 1: and I'm like, whoa baby if person. This is this
Speaker 1: gonna be just you, says just you John, John John's
Speaker 1: you know, John's coming. So I was, I wait. I
Speaker 1: used to wait for Jamie to give the club on
Speaker 1: the way, so he told me to check out the section.
Speaker 1: I wait, Okay, I wait, I wait. I love that.
Speaker 1: I wait, like whole soul, the same security that used
Speaker 1: to work for me too. So but anyway, another story.
Speaker 1: Look at that the calm of the journey. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're brand new in the US. I'm brand new,
Speaker 1: but again I've been moving around with John to a
Speaker 1: degree and building my own relationships, and so time American
Speaker 1: Boy comes around, we record that maybe the first week,
Speaker 1: first few months of being fully for real sign, I mean,
Speaker 1: Miami having a good sign. Come on, come on, come on.
Speaker 1: She stopped, she acted out. No, it was. It was
Speaker 1: beautiful like Miami's one of my Miami's separate from Florida.
Speaker 1: Just this is my personal perception of Miami's separate from Florida. Um.
Speaker 1: But I had a good time, and I was we
Speaker 1: were out there recording with John and I had the
Speaker 1: chance to go with where I am. I'm just all hyped,
Speaker 1: like I ain't worried. That's gonna be good. I thought,
Speaker 1: we care, We're just gonna have fun. My cousin kept
Speaker 1: sending me CDs and I was like, I was bubbling.
Speaker 1: I was listening to all the house, all the soul
Speaker 1: or the garage from home and this is guy with
Speaker 1: super ds and mixtape DJ Okay so cuberd mixtapes, and
Speaker 1: I'm out here like hey said, no, I'm out here bubbling,
Speaker 1: like this is my in my in Miami, right, So
Speaker 1: you know it's similar in the in the energy, having
Speaker 1: a good time in Miami. And we go into studio.
Speaker 1: John's like, what you want to ride about? I was like,
Speaker 1: whoa is? Like what you've been doing? I was like,
Speaker 1: I've been out here outside outside, outside, let's try about
Speaker 1: these boys. And he's like, well, let's try about the
Speaker 1: boys then, and I was like, I don't mean to
Speaker 1: be fair. Outside outside, I wasn't doing too much. I
Speaker 1: was just being time. Everybody's version outside, every different. Some
Speaker 1: people in capital letters, okay, mom was I was all
Speaker 1: all small. No, it wasn't a couple of capitals, but
Speaker 1: outside outside caps one outside. I was hard enough to
Speaker 1: write about it. Yes, the outside. I don't know what
Speaker 1: he's talking about. No, it was. It was just fun
Speaker 1: and for me it was just looking at different types
Speaker 1: of it was Cuban boys and Spanish man and I
Speaker 1: was just like, what is this, you know, like it's
Speaker 1: my end the UK like that, and so it was fun.
Speaker 1: It was just a different energy. So when I'm thinking
Speaker 1: everyone things about American boys, I'm just like, well, technically,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I didn't know the difference really was.
Speaker 1: That's it. I have a cop from there. You know.
Speaker 1: They had a little white cars. Look at you, look
Speaker 1: at you, right back to the play hold up. Um.
Speaker 1: So I was just I was just having a good time.
Speaker 1: A couple of my homies are out there. It was
Speaker 1: just a fun time and that was it. We wrote
Speaker 1: about it. Didn't think about it. It's an hour, a
Speaker 1: couple of hours in the studio. Um who produced that? Well,
Speaker 1: I am his peeping him in his people wow. And
Speaker 1: they had that beat sitting and they didn't really think
Speaker 1: it was gonna do much. I remember him saying, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's the hit. I said, well, if it's not,
Speaker 1: we're going to I be far and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a white label. That's how you say it. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's how you say it. That's how I said. I
Speaker 1: thought it was, yeah, because when you went you told me, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I thought it was. That's what I heard.
Speaker 1: I be for I'm back. Oh god, yeah, don't hate it,
Speaker 1: don't happy? Is it the real? The Hurricanes back? So
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm going there anyway, so it's whatever, It's fine,
Speaker 1: like it'll be whatever. And that's literally. I just was like, look, people,
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm dancing to it. I'm happy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the label go ahead and they started playing it
Speaker 1: to everyone and it was like I played this to
Speaker 1: my little nephew and I played to my kids and
Speaker 1: I played it to him and everybody was just like
Speaker 1: it was that vibe to me. It's the baseline on
Speaker 1: that record. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's happy though, exactly, but
Speaker 1: it's kind of aggressive but it's happy though it's kind
Speaker 1: of blah blah blah. That was on purpose. That was
Speaker 1: on purpose, blah blah, like you on purpose. The frequencies
Speaker 1: are really really like happy. Where were you going for happy?
Speaker 1: You were going for that, you were going for this,
Speaker 1: I'm making a happy record. I was no. I was
Speaker 1: like this, I just feel like I'm dancing right, now
Speaker 1: this makes me feel of joyful times. I feel like
Speaker 1: joyful times in London and I was channeling this girl,
Speaker 1: this lady from Heidi High, Um. I think her name
Speaker 1: was sup Pollard and she was the dizziest, happiest person
Speaker 1: that ever was. Um, we were singing it. I went
Speaker 1: to Elephant Jerald in my hage, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: jazz musicians. She's the bible for me. Um, and I
Speaker 1: was like, Ella was singing this, where would she go?
Speaker 1: I kept going all these deep notes and like and
Speaker 1: John was just like, you know, like so me and
Speaker 1: him sat there and taught music because at this point,
Speaker 1: me and I'm like we're musical partners. You know, we
Speaker 1: could just go back and forth about things. And he
Speaker 1: was like, you know, like how back in he was
Speaker 1: just I'd be singing something, he'd be like, you know,
Speaker 1: like how back in the day, when go for that,
Speaker 1: I'd be like cool, and you know, translate immediately immediately.
Speaker 1: It's easy with him. Um. And so he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, like how Diana Rust and Supremes where they
Speaker 1: were like take the base out of your voice kind
Speaker 1: of thing and just sing like go for that. And
Speaker 1: I was like suppllowed Tae just happy when you sing it,
Speaker 1: so and to me, I smiled little way through it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, people are gonna energy people, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're really channeling what you're singing, people feel it.
Speaker 1: And to me, that's just a consistent response to that record.
Speaker 1: People just get happy when they hear it. It's the spirit,
Speaker 1: it's not you know. So that was that and we
Speaker 1: just as left. It didn't take too long in that overthink,
Speaker 1: it just sang it. How long did it take to
Speaker 1: come out before you are after you recorded? Full year?
Speaker 1: He said a year, A full year. I say a
Speaker 1: full year because the days were it was just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you yeah, well yeah, it's feeling you
Speaker 1: get when you got a record. Yeah, and you're ready
Speaker 1: to Man at this point, I'm like, there are some
Speaker 1: beautiful heart Fall records on this album. I just want
Speaker 1: to have fun though, you know, this one makes me
Speaker 1: happy and also makes atlantic really happy. Yeah, let's just
Speaker 1: go like took Kanye a good eight months to get
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, that happens, but he did it. But
Speaker 1: with without the record is just joy, yes, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's I'm happy. So that was the world wide breakout.
Speaker 1: It did exactly what we wanted and what I wanted
Speaker 1: for it to do. I wanted people to feel joy alright,
Speaker 1: So we got some other segments to get to right
Speaker 1: before we do um you diverse five, you move into
Speaker 1: other things. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Talk talk
Speaker 1: to me about your progressions. Apple Music. Yeah, and this
Speaker 1: is the blessing of life when I love it there,
Speaker 1: I love it. It's a good time listen. I had
Speaker 1: the idea a few years back to like twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: to do a show a podcast, and I was like,
Speaker 1: we should just go to Apple and asome about it.
Speaker 1: At the time, they were switching over and doing some things.
Speaker 1: They didn't have the space for it. I was like, cool,
Speaker 1: first for meant to be will come back. Around twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: we went back to them off of Lover's Drop. One
Speaker 1: of our friends was like, I'm going to stay over
Speaker 1: this right, A couple of writers and they were like,
Speaker 1: you should have a show because you just know too
Speaker 1: much music. How all the people that you know come
Speaker 1: on the show. And I was just like, I wasn't
Speaker 1: even thinking that. I send them an email. We send
Speaker 1: them an email, I my team, we send them an
Speaker 1: email about this years ago. So let's send it again,
Speaker 1: you know, let's just send them an email, knock them
Speaker 1: they got space for They came back and said, it's
Speaker 1: a great idea for a podcast. How about you come
Speaker 1: on and do a radio show and be with us
Speaker 1: five days a week. And yeah, yeah. Then I was
Speaker 1: just like, for sure, absolutely, yes, let's do that to
Speaker 1: be fun. And then I start going and we can
Speaker 1: have and but they are they are solid partner. They
Speaker 1: support a lot of things we do, and they're like
Speaker 1: very much like, whatever you do, we want to be
Speaker 1: a part of it. Whatever you whatever you think is great,
Speaker 1: let's be you know. And so it's myself and two
Speaker 1: other main co host angers, Jasen Strombo, and we're the
Speaker 1: main on Apple Music Kids, which is contemporary or urban
Speaker 1: contemporary music. I get to do the R and B
Speaker 1: side of it. I get to do the soul side
Speaker 1: of it. I get to do the reggae side, whatever
Speaker 1: music on one side of it. And so I play
Speaker 1: a bunch of records. I love to hear it. I
Speaker 1: know people who I messed with personal it really is.
Speaker 1: And I interview all the heroes and greats and you know,
Speaker 1: y'a't have to at this point come on the show.
Speaker 1: But it's very like people. I like people. I love
Speaker 1: musicians I've grown up with. We've been interviewed Al Green
Speaker 1: and Eddie Laverte and and Jimmy Cliff and you know,
Speaker 1: down to JT from you know, seeing you girls like
Speaker 1: I just I love what I love and I talked
Speaker 1: to who I love. And again this is the more
Speaker 1: I say, and the more I realize it's God is
Speaker 1: just like, do what you want. You're good. I gave
Speaker 1: you all these things. I gave you all these dreams
Speaker 1: to them and I'm to day job, I doing music,
Speaker 1: and or I should said it best right. I was
Speaker 1: interviewing him, Yeah, throw the flows out there. It's fine
Speaker 1: because he's supposed to be there. I was, okay, he
Speaker 1: fixed my posture. But for Your Style show we interviewed
Speaker 1: him and his residency and we were talking and he said,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this if it doesn't mean I can't do
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean if I'm doing a residency, but I
Speaker 1: can still don't on a roll when I'm ready, and
Speaker 1: I can still go make an album and already this
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I'm stuck here. And just reinforce my
Speaker 1: thought process of like you can do what you want.
Speaker 1: You really can't do what you want, and you should
Speaker 1: all just do what we want, like as artists expand
Speaker 1: you're here doing this. You know this. I love this show.
Speaker 1: It's TV show to me, so that it's a weekly watch,
Speaker 1: you know, I watched the show like I'm catching up
Speaker 1: on the older episode. I'm just it's it's a necessary
Speaker 1: platform and it's really the idea of do what you want.
Speaker 1: You know, do exactly what you want, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: If you're in alignment, it will be celebrated that we
Speaker 1: lifted up. Now you're doing you're doing is amazing. That
Speaker 1: transition has been amazing. And you you're so knowledgeable. Thank
Speaker 1: you about what we all do. And well, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like you got it. Thank you guys.
Speaker 1: It just makes sense, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be where you're at. I believe it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, you know what I mean. And the music
Speaker 1: is you know, you're a stale you know, you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, music come in, you know,
Speaker 1: we have records come in and features and yeah, the
Speaker 1: other so again under the due I wanted to top five, Okay,
Speaker 1: already you're top five, my top five stales, top five.
Speaker 1: Oh my word, you're top five? Okay, song, oh wow
Speaker 1: thing freath Yeah but you know, oh god, but you know,
Speaker 1: you know my cheek. Why do I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: watching a movie where like a Midwest team white girl
Speaker 1: gets pregnant on that's to your to juggle deal Lord deal,
Speaker 1: old Jesus, hallelujah, hallelujah. Stills topic, I would like to
Speaker 1: know the breathe out on the five. Still your top
Speaker 1: five R and b artists? How well, this is hard
Speaker 1: because female female, because and it's gonna it's gonna go
Speaker 1: into sub genres. Still nothing, I'm right, okay, so top
Speaker 1: top because this is like first pivotal point in my life.
Speaker 1: Um eliphate Gerald. Yes, I was thirteen years old sitting
Speaker 1: in the bus going, yes, my little woman, like, how
Speaker 1: do you sound like this? Lost my mind. Stole the
Speaker 1: tape from my friend Natalie, her granddad's UM tape. I
Speaker 1: stole it from them. It was good times. Um so
Speaker 1: yeah Elephis. Sheerald to another pivotal point for me. Joe
Speaker 1: see and just just would you all to see and
Speaker 1: more and I and the more of their more growing
Speaker 1: I get, the more I'm like, give it to Casey
Speaker 1: and Jojo because you're not screaming harmonies like that and
Speaker 1: making a sing along under the direction. I knew you're
Speaker 1: gonna come on tut Okay, okay, he told Okay. Davante
Speaker 1: was a g Remember that Joe, Joe and Ksey were
Speaker 1: courtet singers. So all of those harmonies, most of them
Speaker 1: are aggressive until they break it down. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, God call it you you. Yeah, most times
Speaker 1: you are to be its most time? Is that hard? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So that combination of them and then intricacy, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: So I love I love Joe to see just down
Speaker 1: down the line, Um, Karen clock Ship and the sisters.
Speaker 1: It's uncle Angel. When I was growing up, and it
Speaker 1: was just like it taught me like how to individually sing,
Speaker 1: but also singing the choiet or in a group with
Speaker 1: my sisters and that. So when I realized I could
Speaker 1: do something sing a little bit, I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: the group arranged. Okay. Yeah. She was like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is that's what we're gonna do. And so for me,
Speaker 1: it was just like hearing all these different sounds and
Speaker 1: all these like singing again, like Josie like just go
Speaker 1: in and like you hearing all the notes and then
Speaker 1: like they were singing around sometimes. But Angels for me
Speaker 1: was the one that stuck in my soul, like the words,
Speaker 1: the lyrics that I really felt like I felt Angels like,
Speaker 1: you know, like so Karen Clouds, she and the Clouds Sisters,
Speaker 1: Misia Paris. She doesn't get taught about it enough. She's
Speaker 1: a British She's a British artist. She's one of the
Speaker 1: original the ogs, the reasons why I could stand here. Um,
Speaker 1: she's a song called you on My One Temptation and
Speaker 1: she was coming off with the back of shade. She
Speaker 1: was brown skin, she's a she was a woman. She
Speaker 1: looked like a woman, you know, like and she just
Speaker 1: looked like me, like like if I grew up, I
Speaker 1: could be her. And she was. She was singing though
Speaker 1: she wasn't up there like giving Yeah, Mesha Paris, she
Speaker 1: wasn't up there giving gentle and just like you know
Speaker 1: an m I a c A Paris, and she she
Speaker 1: was singing. She was up there predecessing all of us.
Speaker 1: No one gets her enough props, you know, so Mesha Paris. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a combination. Don't know Lawrence roncan On League and
Speaker 1: Daryl Coley. Wow you went there, dear God, dear guy,
Speaker 1: because because because I'm a Rocket League, I don't even
Speaker 1: know what a version of gospel people consider him. But
Speaker 1: he's highly underrated. And I just feel like, I it's
Speaker 1: not a song of his that I don't know by
Speaker 1: memory now still as a whole grown that wasn't singing
Speaker 1: when I was like twelve to fifteen. You know, you're
Speaker 1: just like I bust into it like it's real. Like
Speaker 1: I learned about Abraham the Boreal, the world's greatest bass player, um,
Speaker 1: and I learned about him from watching runkin Only Live,
Speaker 1: you know, And to me it was just like that
Speaker 1: moved my childhood in a certain way. You know. I
Speaker 1: learned how to again, how to direct, how to move
Speaker 1: and you know all that stuff. Don't know Lawrence because
Speaker 1: I didn't even and I didn't even know that he'd
Speaker 1: had such a hand in so many different gospel artists
Speaker 1: careers until I interviewed him. But just what the hell
Speaker 1: you know? Like where you hearing from God? Yes, consistently?
Speaker 1: And then Daryl Coley because it didn't make sense. It
Speaker 1: still don't make sense's special. I don't know him, i've
Speaker 1: never met him. I just hear his voice, and I'm
Speaker 1: always very much like just a standalone vocal. Just don't
Speaker 1: need a capella. I don't want to practice to him.
Speaker 1: I just hear it. I listened to him to feel good.
Speaker 1: I don't know where you're going at any given time,
Speaker 1: and I'm fine with that. Just sing and it feels good,
Speaker 1: and that's okay, thank you. I'm going to go about
Speaker 1: my day and listen to wherever trap music I was
Speaker 1: on this week. I just needed to hear this to
Speaker 1: make me jump up a little. Yeah. Now I'm back
Speaker 1: to I might learn tomorrow, but you know, like this
Speaker 1: is he's one of the ones that change the switch
Speaker 1: for me, as far as in the same vein as
Speaker 1: Elephantz Jerold, you can do anything. Yeah, your voice, our voices,
Speaker 1: our instruments, train it, work with it. He's for sure
Speaker 1: the pioneer foundational brick. Yeah, I'm gonna give you your
Speaker 1: flowers because I know that's what you do here. But
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna tell you this, Um, you've been so
Speaker 1: you've been moving for I'm changing. I'm saying that this
Speaker 1: like this, I don't ways think I'm dating you, but
Speaker 1: like you we know your foundation is your foundation. No,
Speaker 1: you know, you know you're still You're good. But it's
Speaker 1: just very much like it's it's a blessing to see
Speaker 1: somebody just get better and just leaps and bows get
Speaker 1: But I remember I feel like the first time I
Speaker 1: saw you before and I'm it's gonna make you laugh.
Speaker 1: It was with Jamie in London at Kathy to Parry
Speaker 1: and Jamie pulled me on stage, but I was I
Speaker 1: was I was front row because i was studying, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at these guys come over and sing R
Speaker 1: and B and I'm like, well, this is just great.
Speaker 1: I'm having a time and I'm a still in the
Speaker 1: UK at this point. No one knows me here, right
Speaker 1: but I'm studying and he pulls me, but I'm watching
Speaker 1: the background singers. I'm watching you sing and I can't
Speaker 1: remember who else was there, but I just remember thinking,
Speaker 1: I was just like that's Tank. Like in my head,
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's I feel like I deserve like your
Speaker 1: Americans are out and I'm just like that's Tank, and
Speaker 1: they sounds so like I'm just giving all the like
Speaker 1: there's no differentiation of respect. Well it's Jamie Watson. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: that's like my whole head is just like at this time.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I wasn't even paying attention when
Speaker 1: he called me up because I didn't think he was
Speaker 1: talking to me. But I was very like, I was
Speaker 1: just stunning. I was like just happy and amazed to
Speaker 1: see you know, like singing just period in that period
Speaker 1: of time on stage, you know, and then so like
Speaker 1: just watching you just consistently just it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a note to longevity, and it's a note to just
Speaker 1: somebody said this to me. Bebbie Smith said it to me.
Speaker 1: It gets greater later. You know. With capricorns, we tend
Speaker 1: to sit in our skin and it just gets good
Speaker 1: when it gets good as we get grown because we
Speaker 1: just sit, you know, we get more seasons than the
Speaker 1: last stuff. And it's just like watching you here now
Speaker 1: this is what I want to see, you know, this
Speaker 1: is it. So I love I love your journey. It's inspiring,
Speaker 1: it's beautiful and just keep me in you man, Wollah,
Speaker 1: thank you. That's crazy. That was a compliment. That was
Speaker 1: like like to find to to receive a compliment in
Speaker 1: that moment because that was a tough moment for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like, that was not Tank at its height.
Speaker 1: That was Tank, you know, having to completely humble himself
Speaker 1: and say, hey, man, I need a job, I need
Speaker 1: to kids, I gotta pay for my kids. My career
Speaker 1: is not cracking. Can I come on the road and
Speaker 1: help you with yours? But the blessing in it is
Speaker 1: that you blessed me, like you have me out here,
Speaker 1: like I'm still up here studying, Like how do they
Speaker 1: sound so good? Yeah? And I got my backgrounds. I'm
Speaker 1: out here like, well, you don't sound good type of
Speaker 1: people like that sounds. I learn how to. I learned
Speaker 1: how to. I learned how to from watching. I learned
Speaker 1: how to manage, you know, like what I wanted to hear,
Speaker 1: what it should sound like, what it should be like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no formal education for this. I you're a prival singer.
Speaker 1: You should you should sing, you should. You're good at
Speaker 1: what you do, like you you know, half faster, you
Speaker 1: go with it with excellence, you know, and the people
Speaker 1: you support and the artists that you big up and
Speaker 1: people that you they're excellent. They're out here doing halfway
Speaker 1: music or I'm kind of sure about who they are,
Speaker 1: like the quality of guests. You know, you guys out here,
Speaker 1: it's R and B. It's real, thank you, So it's fine.
Speaker 1: It's good. Man's cool to Johnny, thank you. Come on,
Speaker 1: let's get to that real thing, that real thing. Come
Speaker 1: to list for you, man. Top five Okay, Army songs,
Speaker 1: Army songs, songs in jams and jams, jam and see
Speaker 1: yours can be different because like you your yeah, her
Speaker 1: information is so different. So cool, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: because I had a different list, but like we're gonna
Speaker 1: go with this, Okay, Marvin and Tammy pick any um,
Speaker 1: you're not living into your loving mm hmm. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: mind was blown when I heard that record. Yea words,
Speaker 1: the lyrics are true, but my mind was blown when
Speaker 1: I heard them sing that. I heard the vinyl of
Speaker 1: it first, and and I listened to it as I'm
Speaker 1: recording albums that you go through your phases of listening
Speaker 1: to different arts, and I had heard it one time
Speaker 1: in one frame of mind, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: I believe that they hadn't they were they were in love? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe there was some form of soulmates to these two,
Speaker 1: because you don't sing at each other like that if
Speaker 1: you don't believe what you're singing. There's just different energy
Speaker 1: and different conviction with them. Nothing. Yeah, and just to me, this,
Speaker 1: as much as the technicality with some songs, to me
Speaker 1: is the feeling, it's the emotion. And that song to me,
Speaker 1: it was just like whoa like, never tell you nothing.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm right, I see why your heart
Speaker 1: was broken. So I get it. I understand when she paused,
Speaker 1: I get it, you know. So that's one um so
Speaker 1: blessed m and and it's again it's related to the
Speaker 1: period of time I was going through, and she's like
Speaker 1: literally detailing her life and why she's so blessed. Wake
Speaker 1: up in the morning for them fresh to death. I'm
Speaker 1: so blessed, so blessed. You know. We went to sleep,
Speaker 1: stress refreshed. I'm so blessed. Yes, yes, she's kind of
Speaker 1: rapping on that record, so I kind of like it.
Speaker 1: But it's the intention in the words and it just
Speaker 1: makes it just it's like a It's like Vibratian for me,
Speaker 1: powers me up, you know, Anita Baker give you though.
Speaker 1: That's that got baby I can't wait for that tour
Speaker 1: my baby face and Anita Baker that you're kidding me, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna breathe out and get
Speaker 1: my singing and shoes ready, get my singing pants on.
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm wearing flip flops, the bad time flop.
Speaker 1: I need you a Baker best, I go How did
Speaker 1: your video? How did you do it? To about his foot?
Speaker 1: Go for it? Go for it, Desiree, gotta be Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that song. Yeah, it's good, ain't it. It's
Speaker 1: simple in the same way that don't worry be happy,
Speaker 1: just the two of us, don't you worry about it.
Speaker 1: I think it's simple like that and American Boy just
Speaker 1: to feel good records feels good and the words at
Speaker 1: the words are true. I'm a big words and make
Speaker 1: it makes sense person two people? All this fair love.
Speaker 1: Stevie wonders, Well we live in Legend wrapping him in bubbles,
Speaker 1: So grateful for him another again, John Legend, mha, because goddamn.
Speaker 1: And I heard the very first aeration of that record,
Speaker 1: like whatever he did, like I feel like there was
Speaker 1: a version of it, or maybe there was like a
Speaker 1: mix is different, something but hearing him play it, it
Speaker 1: was just like, who are you showing whose who feelings
Speaker 1: and whose hearts and and it's it's I'm not placing
Speaker 1: them together at all, but all this fair love Stevie Wonders.
Speaker 1: Just man, I we know that comes from God. You're
Speaker 1: Annie Boltryn. Okay, I want to know who you're gonna
Speaker 1: get the vocal from. Who are you gonna get here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: The performance style, from the styling from and the passion
Speaker 1: of the artists. Okay, I'm gonna build it who you're
Speaker 1: grabbing the vocal from? The vocal shells go. She could
Speaker 1: do anything, anything, She could do anything. She's not even
Speaker 1: trying effortless. It feels good just to get cush you out.
Speaker 1: And I will and I will take it with a smile.
Speaker 1: Maybe I deserved. How would you saying, she she's so cold,
Speaker 1: just press just standing there, just cold. That's that's tough, okay,
Speaker 1: Jill Scott performance style. Yeah, I'm a I'm a new
Speaker 1: renewed pure fan from the Vegas Residency. You've seen the
Speaker 1: first show of the second show, second show, Monster show. Jesus,
Speaker 1: he's in skates, he's skates. I can barely breathe it, like,
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Like I can't breathe it. I
Speaker 1: can't breathe sing and be on skates like pick one
Speaker 1: or the two. I can normally appreciate a great performance,
Speaker 1: but I can't do that. I can not even close that.
Speaker 1: It made me do more push ups. I'm saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: the next thing, but you gotta like sing the very doing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be you can do that something the Agelo
Speaker 1: did that, you could do it. I gotta he did it,
Speaker 1: all right, he did damn that in Lon do pull ups? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, easy muscle ups. You know what I do
Speaker 1: a muscle up to the mic. People, y'all gonna start this, okay,
Speaker 1: all right? Who we got? We got vocal Jill Scott,
Speaker 1: performance style ussure um, the drip, the styling of okay,
Speaker 1: okay now because okay, I can't see myself, no joking,
Speaker 1: yea in my bag, I see myself. But like, also,
Speaker 1: you know another artist, I appreciate their style and people
Speaker 1: like and she pops out, she pops out, and she
Speaker 1: looks good every time. Santi Gold flies here, Lie, she
Speaker 1: flies here. Lie on a lot of people's vision boards, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of people's boys they're taken. They're taking taking
Speaker 1: from that. Santi Gold. She's one of the ones people
Speaker 1: need to stop watch her um passion, the heart of
Speaker 1: the artist, the soul any A Baker down, I might
Speaker 1: cry Anya Baker. It was gonna be an A Baker,
Speaker 1: always gonna be Marvin and Temmy. It's either I heard
Speaker 1: a need to sing a piece of Happy Birthday? How
Speaker 1: did you feel? That gave me chills, And he called
Speaker 1: me about her singing Happy Birthday. It's just a piece.
Speaker 1: It ran to do my soul. Yeah, I didn't know
Speaker 1: what to do with myself. Yeah, it's about right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do at a full concert. No, I know what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. I just want you to film yourself and
Speaker 1: I'll feel myself too. He definitely gonna be feeling Okay,
Speaker 1: look at this punk Ye gods, that's a dope bull man.
Speaker 1: You kidding me? Yeah, Passion, that's how that's that. That
Speaker 1: her music, that's that's what taught me R and B music.
Speaker 1: And I love you know what I love about her?
Speaker 1: What I relate the most, Like you don't have to
Speaker 1: go it's hard all the time. Her tone is her
Speaker 1: tone like she floats. Betty White said that to me too.
Speaker 1: She's like, you don't have to holler. She did. She
Speaker 1: told me I could just bet Ever tell you anything nothing. Wow.
Speaker 1: So Betty White tell Betty right, no, right, very right.
Speaker 1: She said to me. She was like, we did a
Speaker 1: Black Girls talking and the next day she's like, I
Speaker 1: saw you singing Conqueror and your voice is your tone
Speaker 1: is beautiful? Just you know. She didn't say like as much.
Speaker 1: She's like you. I love that you don't like have
Speaker 1: to holler. You can just give and that's that's your
Speaker 1: superpower essentially within your Sean told me that one day,
Speaker 1: me and me and Sean were doing We're doing that record.
Speaker 1: She's both y'all flexing on me at the point, what
Speaker 1: Sean are you talking about? Stanos Menka, Honey, let's get out.
Speaker 1: This is Capricorn and he was he was talking about that.
Speaker 1: He was he was doing it my Michael Jackson. You
Speaker 1: know what, Yeah, there's the big space. But he was like,
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, think I don't sing Cloud. I was like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? I just this is how I sing,
Speaker 1: how I talk? Are you that's how I think? And
Speaker 1: I just sing like that. I was like, uh, it works, Okay,
Speaker 1: got you. And then I was having a conversation with
Speaker 1: my kid, kid the kid Darryl Walls from Walls Group,
Speaker 1: and he was like, he's like, I gotta get out
Speaker 1: of screaming, man. I was like, I'm trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how to get out of it too. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I just have this the space of aggression that I
Speaker 1: love to go to and and and that's always been
Speaker 1: me emulating John p Key. Yeah, it's always been me
Speaker 1: trying to live in that heavy space when I'm naturally
Speaker 1: a cross between baby Face and Brian Knight. That's where
Speaker 1: I naturally live. Yeah. Right, It's just like how do
Speaker 1: I how do I dial it back? What I mean,
Speaker 1: get present and just and even explore more of my
Speaker 1: lower register which I never use, Like I can sign
Speaker 1: down here. I'm saying, who's very white right now? Can we?
Speaker 1: You'll never find we need more? No, Barry White is listen,
Speaker 1: Barry White is underrated. That's brilliant. He's he was a monster,
Speaker 1: but brilliant. He used to take his time and and
Speaker 1: spawned so many groups and just musical album like Understand
Speaker 1: for Fun. Yeah, hey, listen, the most urgent. He sound
Speaker 1: was like, what's the world? Boom boom boom boom boom
Speaker 1: boom boom. What's that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love you
Speaker 1: just a little bit more, Yeah, exactly, singing hard my
Speaker 1: first everything everything, Yeah, given, give me Yeah, exploring that
Speaker 1: that that balance, that's just graceful space in your register
Speaker 1: and in your tone, like it's a love internal Yeah,
Speaker 1: like calming it down, it's it's got to be. It's
Speaker 1: really got to be on purpose for me because I
Speaker 1: get hype. Just you got it. I want to hear more.
Speaker 1: I want to hear it there. Okay, I'm saying no
Speaker 1: names name. Ain't saying no names, no name, who you with,
Speaker 1: where you was, what you did? Who your friend? No name?
Speaker 1: Not say no name. Yeah, I like that, like that movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know we had that, We had that part
Speaker 1: of the show. We're here, you know, you know little
Speaker 1: see more from Yeah, leave me shop my hearts. So
Speaker 1: this segment of the show, it's caught. I ain't saying
Speaker 1: on that. Will you tell us your story? God? Funnier
Speaker 1: fucked up and the Travels of a Stale and Steale
Speaker 1: is from you know, she's from across the water. So
Speaker 1: it could be a story from across the Waters if
Speaker 1: you want to, you know, pond the river, our pondi
Speaker 1: river if you want to, Yeah, only ruling the story.
Speaker 1: Oh God. In the segment, you can't say the names,
Speaker 1: no names, all right? Can I say what they do? Yes? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: yes you can. You can. You can explain the things
Speaker 1: around it. You can't explain the characteristics. You can't say
Speaker 1: their name? Are they aliases? He can't say none of
Speaker 1: that's all right? I have one Oh yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna presee this with this person's like hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, because right now today are tonight,
Speaker 1: if it's overseas, we are going to a stale. I
Speaker 1: ain't saying no name. Ain't saying no names, all right?
Speaker 1: This person is like we love to say that, you know,
Speaker 1: like Wayne Brady was in Dave Chappelle's like he just
Speaker 1: pops up and the weirdest shit. Okay, A person's like
Speaker 1: that to me, very smooth R and B singer, really cool.
Speaker 1: So we have this show for a really well known publication,
Speaker 1: and we're in the middle of like, oh my Hartebraska
Speaker 1: something like that, Like somewhere we're literally in cornfields and
Speaker 1: I fly in and I'm just like, they give me
Speaker 1: this like really small like backstage eariot, like a little
Speaker 1: the Winnebagoes yeah, and I'm like, oh, I'm thinking it's
Speaker 1: just whatever, and I'm not really looking around when I
Speaker 1: go to do my shows. I going to do my
Speaker 1: thing and leave. I go in and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: well this is I had to quick. We're only here
Speaker 1: for a couple of hours. It is I don't even
Speaker 1: know what this thing is. I step in, I look
Speaker 1: at I step outside and it was like, well, I'll
Speaker 1: just wait out here. This is not cute at all.
Speaker 1: This is not cute. Put put my shoes in the bag,
Speaker 1: in the trunk, changing the truck, it'd be fine. Um.
Speaker 1: And we're standing outside. It's me, my DJ, my role manager,
Speaker 1: and it's quiet. But I looked to my left and
Speaker 1: it's beautiful Winnebagol. This thing is like four yard blocks.
Speaker 1: This thing is just big Winnebago is going for like
Speaker 1: half the field and I'm here like who is this for?
Speaker 1: And I'm really not paying any mind. Didn't look at
Speaker 1: the set list or nothing, and it's the artists. When
Speaker 1: a baby go I'm not fast. I don't go in there.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be respect for Oh it's cute. They
Speaker 1: probably never gonna use it, but it's probably like mad
Speaker 1: things in there, but whatever, mad like cool war like
Speaker 1: I had like a trade like with a with a
Speaker 1: water and a croak. Okay, It's like it was terrible.
Speaker 1: It's just very opposite. We're standing there and we're just
Speaker 1: out here talking me my DJ I'm a manager, and
Speaker 1: we're just standing there. All of a sudden, hear down
Speaker 1: the field a out it just ain't and they ain't
Speaker 1: saying that Abby's in't that track blaring. This suv is
Speaker 1: like moving down this cornfield and I'm like having the time, like, who,
Speaker 1: what is happening? What is what's going on? Because it's
Speaker 1: very it's very quiet, it's very chill. And then the
Speaker 1: arm recing pops up and he's like hey, he's like
Speaker 1: shirts and whoever, and he's going for it, and I'm
Speaker 1: just like my head is doing the whole swivel, like
Speaker 1: what is going on now? I'm I am just consistently
Speaker 1: just what is happening. He's like pulls up with the skirt,
Speaker 1: his driver pulls up with the skirt and he pops
Speaker 1: out and he's like barely got a shot. And he's like, hey, yo,
Speaker 1: just come come in, come in the trailer, and so
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm already just mind blowing that he's wrapping
Speaker 1: NICKI minar. I'm realistic bees in the track, I'm realistic
Speaker 1: deserbels pulling through this cornfield. And I'm just like, oh okay.
Speaker 1: So then we go into we all go into the
Speaker 1: mansion of this Winnebago. It's beautiful Winnebago, and I'm just
Speaker 1: looking at my Winnebegel going this is whole soul store confused,
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, how are you getting back to
Speaker 1: how you get back to New York. I's living in
Speaker 1: New York at the time, hanging back to New York. Oh,
Speaker 1: fly back tomorrow. Just come to me on the jet.
Speaker 1: My whole soul is just having a time because you guys,
Speaker 1: this beautiful Winnebago, they flay you here on the jet like,
Speaker 1: and he's just like, just come to me on the jet,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I have people with me, Oh okay,
Speaker 1: And he's just very much like it's just like it is.
Speaker 1: He's living a completely different reality than me, and it's
Speaker 1: it's same music. It's all turned. It's just vibes up
Speaker 1: in this in this Winnebago, and when I tell you,
Speaker 1: he sings the smoothest of music. So it's just blowing
Speaker 1: my mind that this is all the way turned up.
Speaker 1: And so I go and I perform, and then I
Speaker 1: get off and I'm just like, I don't want to go,
Speaker 1: and I was like, wait and see what this artist does.
Speaker 1: It's dusk, and he damn near turns into Marvin Gay
Speaker 1: on stage and he's just it's just our and beer.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like looking at him going forty five
Speaker 1: minutes ago. You was bes in the track what is going?
Speaker 1: So like it just lets me know. And and this
Speaker 1: just keeps happening. Every time I see him in random circumstances,
Speaker 1: it'd be some very wild like I'm standing there going okay, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what's about to happen.
Speaker 1: This is nuts. We might another time we ended up
Speaker 1: he ended up wrapping Rick Ross outside of a walk
Speaker 1: through and I sat there like this one is joining,
Speaker 1: but just sat still because I wasn't sure. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what was going to happen. Man, I just didn't know.
Speaker 1: It was just and he's just the very the exact
Speaker 1: opposite of all of this as a person, as an
Speaker 1: artist that we know him to be in real life.
Speaker 1: It's very don't more than more than more than me
Speaker 1: when I'm in my vibe, it's quite interesting. So it's
Speaker 1: very it's just a very like what the hell is happening?
Speaker 1: R and B will surprise you. We will surprise you, man.
Speaker 1: And you know you feel like the artist follows, you know,
Speaker 1: their personals follow their outside na never this R and
Speaker 1: B thing. It's differ it's very very strange. It's different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was very weird. So that's that's my like, what
Speaker 1: the hell? People people crazy? And they have beautiful Winne
Speaker 1: bagels and jets and window bagos and jets and jets.
Speaker 1: I was tired though, because I was just like, the
Speaker 1: thing is beautiful, Look it's clean, look at the floors,
Speaker 1: like I've been some of those not so nice tidy winnebagels,
Speaker 1: and you just have to hold it kind of thing
Speaker 1: to a degree. You're just like, you know, what, it'll
Speaker 1: be fun today, you know, for two hours, I'll just
Speaker 1: sit in the cart sitting. We'll just go from the spring.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying will be But I think it's so
Speaker 1: different for for for female artists. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: even though you know when females are on the come up,
Speaker 1: I get it, you know what I'm saying. The accommodations
Speaker 1: aren't always going to be the greatest for new artists,
Speaker 1: but a female has to get ready a different kind
Speaker 1: of way. Yeah, and I wish, I wish, I wish
Speaker 1: promoters would be more mindful of that. It comes to
Speaker 1: your boundary so too. You have to tell them from
Speaker 1: the rip, I don't do that. It's not how I move.
Speaker 1: You have to get the thing. It's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we got it, get and then you and then then
Speaker 1: it's also up to you as an artist to know
Speaker 1: what you're walking into sometimes like uh no, you don't
Speaker 1: like you got it. I'm going to change the hotel.
Speaker 1: I'll be there when I'll bet I'm there. There's a
Speaker 1: there's a certain fee, a certain fee in the rider.
Speaker 1: You know, if you don't meet the need to require
Speaker 1: it's gonna cost you because because if you miss out
Speaker 1: on the food, yeah right there with that, that so
Speaker 1: twelve hundred, Yeah, you miss out do this wrong. It
Speaker 1: is tears of wrongdoing. It's gonna cost James two times,
Speaker 1: um stale, thank you so much for just giving us
Speaker 1: your time, you know, giving us good energy, blessing us.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like blessing us, Like you're
Speaker 1: always you're always dope to be around. Thank you, And
Speaker 1: I hope you know that. You know your name is
Speaker 1: associated with all good things, all good energy, all good vibes.
Speaker 1: There's nobody in this world I know. I was like,
Speaker 1: I know that somebody, but like, because you probably get
Speaker 1: to the ship if you're going, you want look about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure doing your outside outside day, you know, saying
Speaker 1: we're good. Nobody, I really, I really don't like I
Speaker 1: try and standing up on my stuff, somebody walking up.
Speaker 1: You seen it there, let me know you see it.
Speaker 1: You see that. I try to stand in my world
Speaker 1: as much as I can. And if you have beef
Speaker 1: with me, um say it. And if you don't think
Speaker 1: you don't know me, well, yeah we're good. And if
Speaker 1: you do, it's harmony. Sorry, but your name is good
Speaker 1: on every month. Luther can't have been so you loved here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you love And I promise I would start running up
Speaker 1: on you coming on the podcast. And now you've come,
Speaker 1: I'm walking out of places. So you coming. I know
Speaker 1: you're trying to enjoy yourself in here and I'm trying
Speaker 1: to leave, but I just want to make sure you're
Speaker 1: gonna pull up. Everybody was looking forward to you to come.
Speaker 1: My daughters. I was like this this stell here, yeah
Speaker 1: listening still Zion has everybody Yo, what beautiful family so
Speaker 1: grown like I was like, I see and I look
Speaker 1: out for them like they my kids. By the way,
Speaker 1: I was last I see yeah concert. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, I tell you, I see her. I see her.
Speaker 1: She would probably be we good, okay, But we are
Speaker 1: appreciative of your energy. I'm appreciative of your contributions. Thank
Speaker 1: you for having just to the universe overall. Nice personale.
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