1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Money. We are thank take we are the authority. And 2 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, my name is Tank. This it's the 3 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: R and B Money Podcast, the authority on all things 4 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: R and B. See you think you think R and 5 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: B is local, local joker? You you think it's local? 6 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: Huh RB a local today tonight. I don't know what 7 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: time it is where you watching it? Arms got international, 8 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: huh just elevated. Yeah, it's not just no American thing. No, 9 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: it's not just no American thing. I mean there was 10 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: there was an American boy of all. But it's just 11 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: American thing, you know that. See what I'm saying. We 12 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: have a love one in the building, a superstar in 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: the building. She does it all man makes an Yeah, 14 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: thank you. How you doing? I'm doing awesome? Girls, It's great. 15 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: Just going to the access beginning. Just talk you know 16 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: the way I normally talk right now, you know, try 17 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: to make you know, accommodate. Sure he feels what is happening. 18 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: This guy, you know, he's from the hood, so I 19 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: have to make what I have to make sure he's 20 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, accommodated. But now it's about it's not terrible, 21 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: but it's just like a boy. Oh my gosh, and 22 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: it's a new They keep me here and how you doing? 23 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm here amongst the madness and King George? What are 24 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: you both good? Great? We are good. We are happy 25 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: to have you. I love I mean, you know you're dope. 26 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: Thank you. I think you're I think you know, talent 27 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: wise and all of the cool things, like all that 28 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: is cool. But you know, your energy has been a 29 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: thousand percent consistent and on just a godly angelic level 30 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: since the first day I met you. And that's that's 31 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 1: really cool and rare. Yeah. Now, you genuinely are a sweetheart. 32 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, I've always felt that every time I'm 33 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: in your presence, like this is just a sweet person, 34 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: and it's tough to remain that way. Yeah, Like you 35 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: may start off, you know what I'm saying, and then 36 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: you really get into this ship. Yeah, and you really 37 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: start to go through some things. You start really seeing 38 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: the colors and the skins on these people, and it 39 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: can turn you, it can turn you different. Well, I 40 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: have been there, you know, like, and I always say that, 41 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: well I've said recently you have to go there to 42 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: know that you want to stay sweet and you want 43 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: to stay cool, you know, because it's this, this whole world, 44 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: not just the industry, is designed to make you realize 45 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: and see and face your shadow side, which is to me, 46 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: the mean side. You know, once you get cool with it, 47 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: I would say, I play nice with my shadows. I'm 48 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: clear where they are, I know what they look like. 49 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: I choose not to go there frequently, you know, And 50 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: and I don't take a lot of stuff personal anymore. Yeah, 51 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, so that helps me stay Yeah, all right, man, 52 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: you're just probably having a bad day. I might be 53 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: having a bad day. I'll give myself grace. I think 54 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: the personal part of it is a tough bar because 55 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: as an artist, everything feels like an attack on you personally. 56 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's all an attacks that's just not good? What 57 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: do you mean? It's not good? And you'd be like, 58 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: you don't know why I went through? How dare you now? 59 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: But maybe sometimes it ain't and and it's okay for 60 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: it not to be. Sometimes it's just a fact, you know, 61 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: it's okay, it's okay that not everybody feels the way you. Yeah, 62 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: that's totally fine. And so then you just start to 63 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: you start to zero in on the people who do 64 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: that part. And I believe what you put your energies. 65 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Who was multiplies and so like, I worry about the 66 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: people worry about me in the greatest of ways, and 67 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: anybody else who doesn't or just just doesn't for the 68 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: sake of doesn't. Maybe that's I'm not your vibe. Maybe 69 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: we ain't in the same energy feel Maybe you're there 70 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: to let me know that there's harmony in the world, 71 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: and that's okay. It took me a minute to even 72 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: get that though, you know, because social media really had 73 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: a good hold on me. Um, just in terms of 74 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: these negative conversations. Oh yeah, I wanted to I wanted 75 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: to talk back. Sometimes you have to do it, though, 76 00:04:54,600 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: It's okay, all right, up, like A in the morning said, 77 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: can you please stop arguing with with girl forty eight 78 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: nine not a real girl. You're literally you're literally fighting goes. 79 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: It takes up to me. It takes like a big 80 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: amount of personal presence or just being like here right 81 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: to like even walk yourself off that ledge. Yeah, I 82 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: hate I used to never be this person to be 83 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: like nah f concastle like out here. So I'm up 84 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: and then and it was just like, is it changing 85 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: the price of my mortgage is it coloring my days? 86 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it protecting my mom more? Is it? 87 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: None of that? None of it. I don't care about 88 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: you none, none of it. Like I had to say 89 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: it out, I don't care about you people, and move 90 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: along because I have drafts some days these thumbs yeah 91 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: what yeah? And then then some days when I was like, 92 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: all right, now, what's your mouth? Like be careful? And 93 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: sometimes the statement is what's your mouth? That's it? And 94 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, And I always I always wonder, and 95 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: I guess it's because I've just been on the other 96 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: side of it for so long. At this point with 97 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: the business side, is you know, I'm gonna step away 98 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: from being a creative. You guys are here, but you're 99 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: a creative too, Yes, but I'm going to step out. 100 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna step out and step out of the circle 101 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: and ask a question, would it just take too much 102 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: time to reply to all the love? Because y'all find 103 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: the hate hate hate finds out. I'm literally just I'm 104 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: generally just asking that question because there will be so 105 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: much love blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Oh 106 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: my god, the one thing, but you hate it, see it? 107 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: Like I'm going to cut your ass out. No, see 108 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: it as a party, right, See it as it's almost 109 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: a celebration you're hosting. It's your party. You're in the 110 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: party and you're dancing, see everybody, everybody stinks up a 111 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: good time and you point the finger in you may 112 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: and then that's that one person comes up and completely 113 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: stops the record, grabs the DJ's mind said, this is 114 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of bullshit. It should ain't even hot like that. Now. 115 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: I was like, so, in the in the midst of 116 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: enjoying all the love, that negative comment or whatever completely 117 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: interrupts the party. Okay, and pay attention to it more 118 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: because of that, because we're having such a good time 119 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: in these comments, such a great time. But then there's 120 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: also the perspective of like you give them the power 121 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: to stop the party? Is that Is that that big 122 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: of a deal what they said, right? Not that not 123 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: that some of the things ain't real. And before you 124 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: reply to it, to me, it's kind of like the 125 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: way you read it, I was like, I've had to 126 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: actively do this, like give it empathy, right that person 127 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: I go down there pay for response sometimes and I'm like, 128 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: you're just having a bad week, or you just feel 129 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: like this is your emo. I don't. I'm not allowing 130 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: you to be that big of a deal in my 131 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: day this week. So no, I'm not even responding to it. 132 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: I won't let you stop the record. You should refer 133 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: to your third post before you continue. You want me 134 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: to repost that for you. I really, I really be 135 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: laughing better, you know, don't even but like I'll see 136 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: something that somebody says about I'll be laughing at it, 137 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: laugh well, and it's and it also like it also 138 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: like I had to think about, like before it even 139 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: got to this point, and things that I would hear 140 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: about people that I knew it. I was like, that's 141 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: not true. Yeah, it's not the stuff they're doing, right, 142 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm just hanging out. Everybody's going an opinion and everybody 143 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: I tried to give us money empathy because guess what, 144 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: ever be a day when I get it completely wrong 145 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: and I just want empathy. Yes, So I try my hardest, 146 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: like I have to like concertedly do it. I say, 147 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: because I'm on look, you say I'm sweet every day, 148 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: and I'm just like it's a concerned effort to make 149 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: sure that my spirit and everything stays in the right space. 150 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: I self correct as quick as I can. You know, like, 151 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm not owed it. I didn't. I didn't. I worked 152 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: for this life. But there's there's God too, and he 153 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: gave me this, and I don't play about it, and 154 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't play about me. So I'm more beholden to 155 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: God than I am to anybody and anything else. Like no, 156 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: so serious. So I like, it's a conscious thing. You know, 157 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: it's a real morning, middle of the day, you know, 158 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: and so the stuff, I'm human, Yeah, I go through it. 159 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: But the empathy part for me helps me to let 160 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: me just see what you going through this week. Look 161 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: at what you said on your Instagram pick. Someone told 162 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: me I pose like an old lady, and I went 163 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: to custom out and then I went down his page 164 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is a twelve year old, 165 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: so of course I'm old. Yeah, it's about right. I 166 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: want to be like I wanted to be like, yeah, 167 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: your mom. You know I'm probably your mom, so you 168 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: probably think, yeah, it's about right before we move on, 169 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: because I was about to move on, but then you 170 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: said old and old used to bother me so bad, 171 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: you used to I'm with it, though, like i'd rather 172 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: get old than die like that old ass nigga. You ain't. No, 173 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm appreciative when they call me up. No, no, I'm 174 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: not unk, old ass nigga and the negative derogatory clap 175 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: at me, old ass nigga. What you're doing commenting here? 176 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: What you're doing here in the shade? Run? No, Uncle's different, 177 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: Uncle's reverence, respectful, old nigga Like whatever you're like, calm down, same, 178 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: are the same? Rung calmed out? How you taking a 179 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: picture like that? You old ass nigga? Like, well, I'm 180 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: Richelia Rachel all right. Still. Yeah, we like to we 181 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: like to start the beginning. Yeah, we like to go 182 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: all the way back to the uk UK. We like 183 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: to know when first time, first time someone saw it, 184 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: or first time you felt it. I got something, discovered 185 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: that gift. Oh when I was like all right, when 186 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: I was like nine or something, at church and I 187 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: sang this song called Makeway for Love, I think like 188 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: it was a cover of a choir song, um, some 189 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: gospel choir and I didn't think I was good because 190 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: my friend you had the better voice, the gospel voice, right, 191 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: And I was like they were like, yeah, you're gonna 192 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: sing it, and I was like, I practiced so hard, 193 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: so hard, and Sunday morning I went and I sang it, 194 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: and everyone stood up and collapped, and it was like, 195 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: yeahin't I was like, and you know, and then build 196 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: it from there, you know, every I realized that, you know, 197 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: I was in quiet. So I learned I'm a natural 198 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: alto and I could. I'm really good at it. And 199 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: then I started learning how to sing all the different 200 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: ranges and all the different things, and and it was 201 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: just from there. And then I realized that like no 202 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: one could really sing as deep as I could sing 203 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: at the time, um for like a twelve year old, 204 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: thirteen year old, And like I learned all the rangers, 205 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: and I would start arranging with my cousins and my 206 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: nieces and my cousins and my sisters. It's nine of us. Um, 207 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: it's nine of us. Told all the time as three 208 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: girls in the group. And then my cousin and my 209 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: little friend from down the street and was in the group. 210 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: We thought, we're Black Street and Joe the season, Wily, 211 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: where do you fit in the number, my oldest girl, 212 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: You're the oldest girl's second oldest, second oldest. So it 213 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: starts off with just you and your big brother. No, 214 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: it starts off with me and my two younger sisters 215 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: and then my cousin. You know, I'm saying as far 216 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: as in the family. So it starts out with your 217 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: big brother than you. Yeah, big brother than me, and 218 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: then right behind me was my two year little sisters. 219 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: And so it was like one year, two years apart, 220 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: one year apart, two years apart to me and my brother. 221 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: I was cracking in your house. Yeah. My mom is 222 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: a g I do not aspire. She's just amazing. Yeah, 223 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: I'll get my dad is incredible to um. They're like 224 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: they inspire me in a whole different way. The story there, 225 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: that's what I wrote Love is rock about um. But 226 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: at the time, she was married to my stepdad for 227 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: much of my childhood and that's when we were in church. Um. 228 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: They break up when I was nineteen, and they get 229 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: back together when I was twenty three. Um, my mom 230 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: and my real dad get back together when I was 231 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: twenty three. Wow. And then they have stories they did, 232 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: Yeah I missed you, We got all the sys. What 233 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna do? Mom? Dad, d you see the sere 234 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: But no, they their story was they met had me 235 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: and my three sisters. Two sisters split up when I 236 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: was three, got back together when I was twenty three. 237 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: I got mad when I'll stay three. Wow. So it's 238 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: been a right, it's been a riding. Yeah. Yeah, it 239 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: spend the time. But we were allays just it was 240 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: always church, it was always reggae music, it was always so, 241 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: it was always African. It was always all the things, 242 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: y'all just mixing it. Yeah, yeah, like church, reggae, gospel, gospel, pop, 243 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: all of it. So so in the UK is that 244 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: a thing though? For like for black families there, we're 245 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: just like we're mixing all of it. Yeah, Like you're 246 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: in the house and you're playing all the gospel, all 247 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: the solo, the reggae or the dance or or whatever. 248 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: And then you go to school and it's like spanned 249 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: out ballet and like Yaz and like wherever, pop group, 250 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: Spice Girls, whoever. And then you come go to church 251 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: and it's Karen Clark and it's you know, Donald Lawrence 252 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: and all of them, and my favorite rates like she like, 253 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: oh gosh, I got to interview them and I was 254 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: just like um, and then you know, and then so 255 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: like all of that just mixes up. It's just it's 256 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: just whatever was good stuck. Yeah, you know that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, 257 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean because I find I'm fine, Like I find 258 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: like the traditional roots still exist in the UK, you 259 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean, especially for R and B music. 260 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: Yea so army. It would be like you hear the 261 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: story and I guess the idea is that R and 262 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: B artists will get like extradited or they were going 263 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: tour and be famous in Europe. In the UK, yeah, 264 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: and so our appreciation for them was different because we 265 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: saw them far more often and in more celebrated ways 266 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: back in the day than they were celebrated in the US. Right. 267 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, for instance, when I know that when he 268 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: first came out, someone like music Soul Child would be 269 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: in the UK regularly. Yeah, And it was the same 270 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: for hip hop groups, and it was the same for 271 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, like just R and B legends. They're always 272 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: they tore consistently in the UK, all the festivals, all 273 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: the soul beaches, whatevers. It's made up of legendary American artists. 274 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: So we saw them like when I was twelve, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, 275 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen, I was like glad as night and you know, 276 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: like seeing real music regular day. I used to be 277 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: jealous about that because all of my from genuine my 278 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: first overseas tour was with him in ninety eight. Yeah, 279 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: and I used to see Joe going over there like 280 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: crazy of course you said music soul Child, Carl Thomas, 281 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: all these guys going over there. I'd be like, I 282 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: don't want to go do that. And I never got 283 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: an opportunity to really build a touring base, you know, overseas. 284 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: But I mean I do, I do well now, but 285 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm still like, like, take Joe for instance, Yes, like 286 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: most times when I go on like I'm on his ticket, 287 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because Joe over there is. 288 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: But he had the opportunity of course. Yeah, he really 289 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: got dug in. Yeah Joe, it's Joe. Yeah, like not again, yeah, yeah, 290 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: Joe jacketed like John b like those guys, like guys 291 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: over there. You know, I remember a TDT went over there, 292 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: and we have been doing our thing over here in 293 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: the States, and you know, the screams are great in 294 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: the States. It's exciting. Yeah, but we walked out on 295 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: that hammer Smith Apolo. States different, it's different. Yourself was like, listen, 296 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: it was so different that before we were walking out 297 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: on stage, me and Genuine had damn, they're cussed out 298 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: Tyrese and had went upstairs and made our own dressing 299 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: room in another room, left him downstairs, right like we're 300 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: always about to fight. And we come downstairs, they playing 301 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: the intro music, were all about to go on stage. 302 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: Tyres is standing right there, me and Genuine is standing 303 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: over here like this, standing on Twitter. Go we on tour. 304 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: I do something to him. No, I do something to 305 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: him to have a Tyres question, all right, sorry to 306 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: cut you, Okay, No, what what's this? What's this like? 307 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: Coming off? This was coming off with a black tie era, right, yes? 308 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: So was it just like could it have been remnants 309 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: of the black tie energy? No, it's just m So 310 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: that's my brother. I love him. It's just Tyres. It No, 311 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: no remnants of nothing. It's just I can tell you sorry. 312 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: So we are literally about to walk on stage, divided, 313 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: not even talking to each other, like on some like 314 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: beef real beef. Yeah. And we start walking out on 315 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: that stage and the building starts to shake and we 316 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: just all look at each other like like a five 317 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: heartbeat and it's that moment, you know, for me in 318 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: London that always gives me hope for you know, for 319 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: of course our group, but just R and B period, 320 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: because I know there's a place like I know there's 321 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: I know there are places they really love this R 322 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: and B music. Yeah, yeah, it's it's like that. It's 323 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: it's unexplainable. It's unexplainable, and I love seeing it every 324 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: single time I see like an artis school women and 325 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: like look at this Hampson Apolo, Brixton Academy, whatever, whatever, 326 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, yeah, we love it, like this 327 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: is this is it. And so there's a certain amount 328 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: of truth that you're forced to do if you're coming 329 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: up as an R and B artist in the UK. 330 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: There's no version of this that that we're going to 331 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: allow you to kind of she mean, shake your way 332 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: into it and just kind of be okay, like they're 333 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: gonna drew you down. Let me he's seeing a Cappello 334 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: over and over again. I mean when you said in 335 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: the lyrics, let me see what you look like consistently 336 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: and are you real? And do we know your family? 337 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: And how far back into the island seat. People just 338 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: want to know everybody because your journey, yeah, your musical journey, 339 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: having to prove and show up and show out, yes, consistently. 340 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: So it's not it's not a thought in my head 341 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: to pop out and have to do something, you know, 342 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: like I'm convicted. I know what I'm walking with and 343 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: I'm good so when I do call up. No. I 344 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: was with the crew Black Fang and he's an artist 345 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: in the UK and he had me come and wrap 346 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: on one of his records. This is the short version, 347 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: and I think at the time and the error it 348 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: was Miss Dynamite who was out and I was doing 349 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: my thing on the underground. I wasn't you know, everyone 350 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: knew me but hadn't had a record out. And I 351 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: kept going to the labels and kept having records and 352 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 1: they kept like self produced, I self distributed all well. 353 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: I was singing still with an apostrophe in the middle 354 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,239 Speaker 1: of I don't know, um, that's nonsense, but here we are. 355 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: And so he put me on it. It was like yo, 356 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: just rap and so I wrapped on it and people 357 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: started knowing me around the UK and Europe as this girl, 358 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: and I took every opportunity to go on the road 359 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: with him. But that was the moment when people were like, oh, 360 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: and then it was me. I didn't look like. I 361 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: wasn't trying to be I wasn't putting myself in any 362 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: other lane that they thought I should look like, be 363 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: like feel like. I was just like, this is me. 364 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wrap like how I rap. And people were like, yo, 365 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: this this girl. They was feeling it. So and from 366 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: there on, age just kind of like doors were opened. 367 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: Doors were opened, doors are open. But we were working 368 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: at the same time, you know. Every time he was 369 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: like come to Europe, come to wherever, Come do the 370 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: show in Germany, Come do this tour in Spain, come 371 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: do this stuff I was doing that, I would move out. 372 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: I would go do it, and then I would also 373 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: be producing my own records. I would also be like 374 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: doing my own records like China Work. Yeah. I was 375 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: all of the things independently, read the books, figured out 376 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: I needed a distributor, got a distribute, recorded demos that 377 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 1: sounded ridiculously terrible, putting them on this mixtape, put them 378 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: out like moved, you know, and this point I'm like, 379 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: at this point, I'm like twenty but one, twenty one, 380 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: twenty but I've been doing it since I was seventeen. Yeah, 381 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: producing your own stuff. Yeah, just trying to find a way, Yes, 382 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: figuring it out. My mom's girl. So was there ever 383 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: a time where you thought about going to school, I'm 384 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: done with this, No, I did. I did. So our 385 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: high school is college. Um so sixteen eighteen, so I was. 386 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: I went to college for journalism. So the whole time. 387 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: At the same time, I'm like working a day job, 388 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: like several day jobs. So I had work in my 389 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: suspenses grocery store, and then I worked to a company 390 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: called Darker than Blue, which was a early in the 391 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: game website about black music. So, okay player or yeah 392 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: you know here we call it blue black Yeah, dark blue. Yeah. 393 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: It was named after the Curse may Full song were 394 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: the people that are dark and and he they had 395 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: me hide as the gigs that I wanted to be 396 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: a writer. I wanted to just figure out how to 397 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: be in music, how to be in this thing that 398 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: I love so much. And my friend Fusion was like, 399 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: do you know how to write reviews? I was like, well, 400 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: I've write I've written all these stories. I was a 401 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: usually creative kid. I had this folder full of stories 402 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: and he was like, come on work for me. I 403 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: was like, okay, cool. It was a gigs at it. 404 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: So I would go to gigs and review him, and 405 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: I would also be on stage at the gigs. Right, 406 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: it was like yeah, like they But then it was 407 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: also like parties too, so I had I built up 408 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: a beautiful network of knowing all the parties, all the 409 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: promoters and all the things. So it was a lot 410 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: of love and ground swell when my first album came up, 411 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: because people really knew me, you know, it was outside. 412 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: They were happy for you. They were very happy. And 413 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: that's still like that's the foundation of my career to 414 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: a degree. You know, it's a lot of real love. 415 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: You know, people saw me really working. Yeah, like going out, 416 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: do the day job, go to the gig, go to 417 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: sleep at like five in the morning, wake up at 418 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: nine am, go back to work again every day. I 419 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: love it. I love it. Was like they like the 420 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: UK is a very territorial kind of place, like if 421 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: if you have the back, they'll give you their backing 422 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: and their blessing. Like they want to own they want 423 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: this us, you know what I'm saying, Like like how 424 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: Callie is or how New York Atlanta is like it's 425 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: this very thing where it's like very much, this is 426 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: ours Like people in my DMS and mentions all now, 427 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: like when you're coming home and I'm like, I don't 428 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: even know you. What do you talk? Like? Why are 429 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: you you never met? What are you saying? I missed 430 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: your skinny man? Stop looking at that page? It's like, 431 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: who is this akin? Maybe I know? Maybe I know 432 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: he was he was two when I was moving around? 433 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: What are you saying? But I appreciate it? So what 434 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: was what was the breakout moment? Do you feel um 435 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: in the world or just from there? Like I mean 436 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: it starts there, but then I mean, I guess it'll 437 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: translate to the world can do it? And the breakout 438 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: moment for the world is or there was tricks to 439 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: the world American boy had to be right? And so 440 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: how do we get flight? Like why are we taking 441 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: this flight from the UK? So tricks that happens. I'm building, 442 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm moving, I'm moving. I go to a label they 443 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: say no, eventually end up signing to the same label 444 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: via production company. Um, it's always a matter. It just 445 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: becomes this repeating story of like, hey, I'm really good. Nah, 446 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: somebody else brings me in. Oh she's good, right, sign Yeah, 447 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: got that understood. It didn't quite get it the second 448 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: time it happened, and this is all in the UK. 449 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: Still though this is in the UK. UM I asked 450 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: to be let go from the label because when we 451 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: top twenties everything, everything's going great. Nineteen eighties record I 452 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: have comes out and they don't believe it's going to 453 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: do so well, but it does better than expected. We recoup. 454 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: We're good, right. Second album comes around and I'm like, 455 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: John Legend wants to help me work on this album? 456 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: Is that produce it? Do you meet him somewhere in 457 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: this time? So, in this period of time before I 458 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: even sign the Steel and get out there, I'm still 459 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: working on my mixtapes, doing stuff independently. I'm just convicted. 460 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, I need to meet this guy, John Legend. 461 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: I heard all his records on this Kanye mixtape. I 462 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: need to meet him. And that's when I go to La. Well, 463 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: I pray God, I need two thousand dollars to get 464 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: to La. I get I get a cool like within 465 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: twenty four or forty eight hours, saying yo, go on 466 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: tour with this girl jam media and do Rad Diggers 467 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: parts on this guest record that she has with rad Digga. Cool. 468 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: How much they pay in two thousand hounds? Right? Cool? 469 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: So two thousands and this is when I'm like, no 470 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: one can tell me. Nobody can tell me nothing about God. Okay, 471 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: So go on this tour, get this two thousand pounds, 472 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: go to America and I'm in LA and I'm working 473 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: on more demos, and I would on the street. I'm 474 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: just this is I'm playing this mixtape in the hotel 475 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: room to the point my friend that come with me 476 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: just rolling with me. He's like, oh, and I'm just like, nah, 477 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: I feel something with this. I feel that I feel it. 478 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: Walked down the street to Rusco's and Kanye's in there. 479 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: I don't see John at all. I just thought Kanye 480 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: for John, like, Yo, you're great, you know some of 481 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: the same people I know. Listen, listen, listen. Can you 482 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: are John? Yeah? I was like no, because I need 483 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: to meet John. I have this song. I'm prepared. I 484 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: have it on my dad tape. Right, I wasn't seeding 485 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: the small CDs. It's like two thousand and two, two 486 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: thousand and three, and we go to studio and meet John. 487 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: He just takes you immediately. No, he um like this even. 488 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: He's like, come to studio later. And I was like, okay, 489 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: you've never met this man in your life. No, You're like, 490 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: but we know a couple of the same people. Yeah, 491 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: And then we just started talking like this is this 492 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: is God. He don't play about me, so don't play 493 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: with so we're taught. Like He's like, comes to you. 494 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: I was like, cool, I don't really think he's gonna. 495 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm thinking this gonna right. Yeah, he's not. He's not. 496 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: It's probably a wrong number. He's like, yeah, come to Recomplant. 497 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: So we'll go to Recomplant and I'm there freezing thinking 498 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: this la. I didn't bring no co weather clothes, so 499 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: it's cold by the time I get to the studio 500 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: and I'm just want to go home. I don't like 501 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: coal weather. And John's in the studio. Met John said hey, 502 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: here's the song. Um, listen to it in your own 503 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: time because I don't even know if it's like the 504 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: snuff right now, and I'm all nervous. He's like cool, cool, cool. Um. 505 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: A couple days later, he calls and he says, yeah, 506 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: Kanye lights it says I can do it, so let 507 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: me just do it, and then me and John get 508 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: really cool, like he's like, yo, like you just your ballsy, 509 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: like you got guts. I'm just like what we else? 510 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm supposed to be scared. I don't that gene 511 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: doesn't exist. I don't know what that means. Um, I'm 512 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: just like, thank you, cool, cool do the He comes 513 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: to London, we build up a report and he sees 514 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: me really working. He sees me like putting my money 515 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: where my mouth is, and he says, come on the 516 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: road with me. Because every time he comes on the 517 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: road or goes on the road in the UK, we're 518 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: promoting my album, which has since come out. He's done 519 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: the record, it's come out, his album's gold, and he's 520 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: winning all the Grammy's and doing it staying and he's touring, 521 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: but he's taking me with him, and everybody's like, like, 522 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: who is this? So when I go to the label 523 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: at the end of this and everything's a success on 524 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: our end and he's gold and they're like, who's John Legend? 525 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: And I just want to punch a wall because I 526 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: want it. Because he was like I was like, he's 527 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: gonna Zet produce this album for me, which becomes Shine 528 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: and has an American boy in it, and they're like, 529 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: who's he? And I was just like, let me go? 530 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: Can you? Can you drop me? Please? Drop me? This 531 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: is nonsense. I was genuinely like, now, let me go, please, 532 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: please let me go. It took them three years, so 533 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: two thousand and four, five, six seven. It took them 534 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: to two thousand and seven two A sign off Atlantica 535 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: in I'm signed to John's label, the Atlantica Just like, 536 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: what are this label doing? What the heck to the 537 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: point where they were just like, we'll buy you out. 538 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: We're good. Just it's twenty thousand dollars. Just we'll get 539 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: it done right, Yeah yeah, And they buy me out 540 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: the deal and I was like cool, And I come 541 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: to the US. I've already been back and forth so much. 542 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm already pretty much in my deal and I'm moving 543 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: and start from scratch because no one here knows me. 544 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeah whatever. That was weird because you know, I'm already 545 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: me in London, I was Christian Luvertanz before they knew 546 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: what luvertizer look out, look out. Yeah, I come here 547 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: and I'm like, whoa baby if person. This is this 548 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: gonna be just you, says just you John, John John's 549 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, John's coming. So I was, I wait. I 550 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: used to wait for Jamie to give the club on 551 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: the way, so he told me to check out the section. 552 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: I wait, Okay, I wait, I wait. I love that. 553 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: I wait, like whole soul, the same security that used 554 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: to work for me too. So but anyway, another story. 555 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: Look at that the calm of the journey. Yeah yeah, 556 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: so you're brand new in the US. I'm brand new, 557 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: but again I've been moving around with John to a 558 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: degree and building my own relationships, and so time American 559 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: Boy comes around, we record that maybe the first week, 560 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 1: first few months of being fully for real sign, I mean, 561 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: Miami having a good sign. Come on, come on, come on. 562 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: She stopped, she acted out. No, it was. It was 563 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: beautiful like Miami's one of my Miami's separate from Florida. 564 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: Just this is my personal perception of Miami's separate from Florida. Um. 565 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: But I had a good time, and I was we 566 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: were out there recording with John and I had the 567 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: chance to go with where I am. I'm just all hyped, 568 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: like I ain't worried. That's gonna be good. I thought, 569 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: we care, We're just gonna have fun. My cousin kept 570 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: sending me CDs and I was like, I was bubbling. 571 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: I was listening to all the house, all the soul 572 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: or the garage from home and this is guy with 573 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: super ds and mixtape DJ Okay so cuberd mixtapes, and 574 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm out here like hey said, no, I'm out here bubbling, 575 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: like this is my in my in Miami, right, So 576 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: you know it's similar in the in the energy, having 577 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: a good time in Miami. And we go into studio. 578 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: John's like, what you want to ride about? I was like, 579 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: whoa is? Like what you've been doing? I was like, 580 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: I've been out here outside outside, outside, let's try about 581 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: these boys. And he's like, well, let's try about the 582 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: boys then, and I was like, I don't mean to 583 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: be fair. Outside outside, I wasn't doing too much. I 584 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: was just being time. Everybody's version outside, every different. Some 585 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: people in capital letters, okay, mom was I was all 586 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: all small. No, it wasn't a couple of capitals, but 587 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: outside outside caps one outside. I was hard enough to 588 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: write about it. Yes, the outside. I don't know what 589 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: he's talking about. No, it was. It was just fun 590 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: and for me it was just looking at different types 591 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: of it was Cuban boys and Spanish man and I 592 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: was just like, what is this, you know, like it's 593 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: my end the UK like that, and so it was fun. 594 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: It was just a different energy. So when I'm thinking 595 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: everyone things about American boys, I'm just like, well, technically, 596 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't think. I didn't know the difference really was. 597 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: That's it. I have a cop from there. You know. 598 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: They had a little white cars. Look at you, look 599 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: at you, right back to the play hold up. Um. 600 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: So I was just I was just having a good time. 601 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: A couple of my homies are out there. It was 602 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: just a fun time and that was it. We wrote 603 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: about it. Didn't think about it. It's an hour, a 604 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: couple of hours in the studio. Um who produced that? Well, 605 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: I am his peeping him in his people wow. And 606 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: they had that beat sitting and they didn't really think 607 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: it was gonna do much. I remember him saying, I 608 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: don't think it's the hit. I said, well, if it's not, 609 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: we're going to I be far and it's gonna be 610 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: a white label. That's how you say it. Yeah, Okay, 611 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: that's how you say it. That's how I said. I 612 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: thought it was, yeah, because when you went you told me, yeah, 613 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: that's what I thought it was. That's what I heard. 614 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: I be for I'm back. Oh god, yeah, don't hate it, 615 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: don't happy? Is it the real? The Hurricanes back? So 616 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: you're like, I'm going there anyway, so it's whatever, It's fine, 617 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 1: like it'll be whatever. And that's literally. I just was like, look, people, 618 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,959 Speaker 1: I love it. I'm dancing to it. I'm happy. Yeah, 619 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: and the label go ahead and they started playing it 620 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: to everyone and it was like I played this to 621 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: my little nephew and I played to my kids and 622 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: I played it to him and everybody was just like 623 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: it was that vibe to me. It's the baseline on 624 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: that record. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's happy though, exactly, but 625 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: it's kind of aggressive but it's happy though it's kind 626 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: of blah blah blah. That was on purpose. That was 627 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: on purpose, blah blah, like you on purpose. The frequencies 628 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: are really really like happy. Where were you going for happy? 629 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: You were going for that, you were going for this, 630 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm making a happy record. I was no. I was 631 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: like this, I just feel like I'm dancing right, now 632 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: this makes me feel of joyful times. I feel like 633 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: joyful times in London and I was channeling this girl, 634 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: this lady from Heidi High, Um. I think her name 635 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: was sup Pollard and she was the dizziest, happiest person 636 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: that ever was. Um, we were singing it. I went 637 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 1: to Elephant Jerald in my hage, one of my favorite 638 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: jazz musicians. She's the bible for me. Um, and I 639 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: was like, Ella was singing this, where would she go? 640 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: I kept going all these deep notes and like and 641 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: John was just like, you know, like so me and 642 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: him sat there and taught music because at this point, 643 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: me and I'm like we're musical partners. You know, we 644 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: could just go back and forth about things. And he 645 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: was like, you know, like how back in he was 646 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: just I'd be singing something, he'd be like, you know, 647 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: like how back in the day, when go for that, 648 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: I'd be like cool, and you know, translate immediately immediately. 649 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: It's easy with him. Um. And so he was like, 650 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, like how Diana Rust and Supremes where they 651 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: were like take the base out of your voice kind 652 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: of thing and just sing like go for that. And 653 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: I was like suppllowed Tae just happy when you sing it, 654 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: so and to me, I smiled little way through it, 655 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: and I was like, people are gonna energy people, you know, 656 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: when you're really channeling what you're singing, people feel it. 657 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 1: And to me, that's just a consistent response to that record. 658 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: People just get happy when they hear it. It's the spirit, 659 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: it's not you know. So that was that and we 660 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: just as left. It didn't take too long in that overthink, 661 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: it just sang it. How long did it take to 662 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 1: come out before you are after you recorded? Full year? 663 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: He said a year, A full year. I say a 664 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 1: full year because the days were it was just like, 665 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: oh my god, you yeah, well yeah, it's feeling you 666 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: get when you got a record. Yeah, and you're ready 667 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: to Man at this point, I'm like, there are some 668 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: beautiful heart Fall records on this album. I just want 669 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: to have fun though, you know, this one makes me 670 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: happy and also makes atlantic really happy. Yeah, let's just 671 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: go like took Kanye a good eight months to get 672 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, that happens, but he did it. But 673 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: with without the record is just joy, yes, you know, 674 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: and that's I'm happy. So that was the world wide breakout. 675 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: It did exactly what we wanted and what I wanted 676 00:39:54,600 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: for it to do. I wanted people to feel joy alright, 677 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: So we got some other segments to get to right 678 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: before we do um you diverse five, you move into 679 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: other things. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Talk talk 680 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: to me about your progressions. Apple Music. Yeah, and this 681 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: is the blessing of life when I love it there, 682 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: I love it. It's a good time listen. I had 683 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 1: the idea a few years back to like twenty sixteen 684 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: to do a show a podcast, and I was like, 685 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: we should just go to Apple and asome about it. 686 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: At the time, they were switching over and doing some things. 687 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 1: They didn't have the space for it. I was like, cool, 688 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,720 Speaker 1: first for meant to be will come back. Around twenty eighteen, 689 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: we went back to them off of Lover's Drop. One 690 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: of our friends was like, I'm going to stay over 691 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: this right, A couple of writers and they were like, 692 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: you should have a show because you just know too 693 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: much music. How all the people that you know come 694 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: on the show. And I was just like, I wasn't 695 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: even thinking that. I send them an email. We send 696 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: them an email, I my team, we send them an 697 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: email about this years ago. So let's send it again, 698 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, let's just send them an email, knock them 699 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: they got space for They came back and said, it's 700 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: a great idea for a podcast. How about you come 701 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: on and do a radio show and be with us 702 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: five days a week. And yeah, yeah. Then I was 703 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: just like, for sure, absolutely, yes, let's do that to 704 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: be fun. And then I start going and we can 705 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: have and but they are they are solid partner. They 706 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: support a lot of things we do, and they're like 707 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: very much like, whatever you do, we want to be 708 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: a part of it. Whatever you whatever you think is great, 709 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: let's be you know. And so it's myself and two 710 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: other main co host angers, Jasen Strombo, and we're the 711 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,439 Speaker 1: main on Apple Music Kids, which is contemporary or urban 712 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: contemporary music. I get to do the R and B 713 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 1: side of it. I get to do the soul side 714 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: of it. I get to do the reggae side, whatever 715 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: music on one side of it. And so I play 716 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of records. I love to hear it. I 717 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: know people who I messed with personal it really is. 718 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: And I interview all the heroes and greats and you know, 719 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,439 Speaker 1: y'a't have to at this point come on the show. 720 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: But it's very like people. I like people. I love 721 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: musicians I've grown up with. We've been interviewed Al Green 722 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: and Eddie Laverte and and Jimmy Cliff and you know, 723 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: down to JT from you know, seeing you girls like 724 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 1: I just I love what I love and I talked 725 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 1: to who I love. And again this is the more 726 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: I say, and the more I realize it's God is 727 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: just like, do what you want. You're good. I gave 728 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: you all these things. I gave you all these dreams 729 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:54,479 Speaker 1: to them and I'm to day job, I doing music, 730 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: and or I should said it best right. I was 731 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,919 Speaker 1: interviewing him, Yeah, throw the flows out there. It's fine 732 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: because he's supposed to be there. I was, okay, he 733 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: fixed my posture. But for Your Style show we interviewed 734 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: him and his residency and we were talking and he said, 735 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: I'm doing this if it doesn't mean I can't do 736 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean if I'm doing a residency, but I 737 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 1: can still don't on a roll when I'm ready, and 738 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: I can still go make an album and already this 739 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I'm stuck here. And just reinforce my 740 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: thought process of like you can do what you want. 741 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,240 Speaker 1: You really can't do what you want, and you should 742 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: all just do what we want, like as artists expand 743 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: you're here doing this. You know this. I love this show. 744 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: It's TV show to me, so that it's a weekly watch, 745 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, I watched the show like I'm catching up 746 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: on the older episode. I'm just it's it's a necessary 747 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: platform and it's really the idea of do what you want. 748 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: You know, do exactly what you want, don't worry about it. 749 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: If you're in alignment, it will be celebrated that we 750 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: lifted up. Now you're doing you're doing is amazing. That 751 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: transition has been amazing. And you you're so knowledgeable. Thank 752 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: you about what we all do. And well, you know 753 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 1: what I mean, like you got it. Thank you guys. 754 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: It just makes sense, you know what I mean, Like 755 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be where you're at. I believe it. 756 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: Thank you, you know what I mean. And the music 757 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: is you know, you're a stale you know, you know, 758 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, music come in, you know, 759 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: we have records come in and features and yeah, the 760 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:36,280 Speaker 1: other so again under the due I wanted to top five, Okay, 761 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 1: already you're top five, my top five stales, top five. 762 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: Oh my word, you're top five? Okay, song, oh wow 763 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: thing freath Yeah but you know, oh god, but you know, 764 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: you know my cheek. Why do I feel like I'm 765 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: watching a movie where like a Midwest team white girl 766 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 1: gets pregnant on that's to your to juggle deal Lord deal, 767 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: old Jesus, hallelujah, hallelujah. Stills topic, I would like to 768 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 1: know the breathe out on the five. Still your top 769 00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: five R and b artists? How well, this is hard 770 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: because female female, because and it's gonna it's gonna go 771 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: into sub genres. Still nothing, I'm right, okay, so top 772 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,919 Speaker 1: top because this is like first pivotal point in my life. 773 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,439 Speaker 1: Um eliphate Gerald. Yes, I was thirteen years old sitting 774 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: in the bus going, yes, my little woman, like, how 775 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: do you sound like this? Lost my mind. Stole the 776 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: tape from my friend Natalie, her granddad's UM tape. I 777 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: stole it from them. It was good times. Um so 778 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: yeah Elephis. Sheerald to another pivotal point for me. Joe 779 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: see and just just would you all to see and 780 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: more and I and the more of their more growing 781 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: I get, the more I'm like, give it to Casey 782 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: and Jojo because you're not screaming harmonies like that and 783 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: making a sing along under the direction. I knew you're 784 00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: gonna come on tut Okay, okay, he told Okay. Davante 785 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: was a g Remember that Joe, Joe and Ksey were 786 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: courtet singers. So all of those harmonies, most of them 787 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 1: are aggressive until they break it down. You know what 788 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying, God call it you you. Yeah, most times 789 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: you are to be its most time? Is that hard? Yeah? 790 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:33,240 Speaker 1: So that combination of them and then intricacy, it's beautiful. 791 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: So I love I love Joe to see just down 792 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: down the line, Um, Karen clock Ship and the sisters. 793 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 1: It's uncle Angel. When I was growing up, and it 794 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: was just like it taught me like how to individually sing, 795 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: but also singing the choiet or in a group with 796 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: my sisters and that. So when I realized I could 797 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: do something sing a little bit, I was like, I'm 798 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: the group arranged. Okay. Yeah. She was like yeah, yeah, 799 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: this is that's what we're gonna do. And so for me, 800 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: it was just like hearing all these different sounds and 801 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: all these like singing again, like Josie like just go 802 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 1: in and like you hearing all the notes and then 803 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: like they were singing around sometimes. But Angels for me 804 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: was the one that stuck in my soul, like the words, 805 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: the lyrics that I really felt like I felt Angels like, 806 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, like so Karen Clouds, she and the Clouds Sisters, 807 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 1: Misia Paris. She doesn't get taught about it enough. She's 808 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: a British She's a British artist. She's one of the 809 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: original the ogs, the reasons why I could stand here. Um, 810 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: she's a song called you on My One Temptation and 811 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: she was coming off with the back of shade. She 812 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: was brown skin, she's a she was a woman. She 813 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 1: looked like a woman, you know, like and she just 814 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: looked like me, like like if I grew up, I 815 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: could be her. And she was. She was singing though 816 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: she wasn't up there like giving Yeah, Mesha Paris, she 817 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: wasn't up there giving gentle and just like you know 818 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: an m I a c A Paris, and she she 819 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: was singing. She was up there predecessing all of us. 820 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: No one gets her enough props, you know, so Mesha Paris. Yeah, Okay, 821 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 1: it's a combination. Don't know Lawrence roncan On League and 822 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,879 Speaker 1: Daryl Coley. Wow you went there, dear God, dear guy, 823 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:51,359 Speaker 1: because because because I'm a Rocket League, I don't even 824 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 1: know what a version of gospel people consider him. But 825 00:49:54,560 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 1: he's highly underrated. And I just feel like, I it's 826 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: not a song of his that I don't know by 827 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,359 Speaker 1: memory now still as a whole grown that wasn't singing 828 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: when I was like twelve to fifteen. You know, you're 829 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 1: just like I bust into it like it's real. Like 830 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,799 Speaker 1: I learned about Abraham the Boreal, the world's greatest bass player, um, 831 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 1: and I learned about him from watching runkin Only Live, 832 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, And to me it was just like that 833 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: moved my childhood in a certain way. You know. I 834 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: learned how to again, how to direct, how to move 835 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: and you know all that stuff. Don't know Lawrence because 836 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: I didn't even and I didn't even know that he'd 837 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: had such a hand in so many different gospel artists 838 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,919 Speaker 1: careers until I interviewed him. But just what the hell 839 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: you know? Like where you hearing from God? Yes, consistently? 840 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: And then Daryl Coley because it didn't make sense. It 841 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:56,879 Speaker 1: still don't make sense's special. I don't know him, i've 842 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 1: never met him. I just hear his voice, and I'm 843 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: always very much like just a standalone vocal. Just don't 844 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 1: need a capella. I don't want to practice to him. 845 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: I just hear it. I listened to him to feel good. 846 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: I don't know where you're going at any given time, 847 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: and I'm fine with that. Just sing and it feels good, 848 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 1: and that's okay, thank you. I'm going to go about 849 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: my day and listen to wherever trap music I was 850 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 1: on this week. I just needed to hear this to 851 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 1: make me jump up a little. Yeah. Now I'm back 852 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: to I might learn tomorrow, but you know, like this 853 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: is he's one of the ones that change the switch 854 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: for me, as far as in the same vein as 855 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: Elephantz Jerold, you can do anything. Yeah, your voice, our voices, 856 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,879 Speaker 1: our instruments, train it, work with it. He's for sure 857 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: the pioneer foundational brick. Yeah, I'm gonna give you your 858 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: flowers because I know that's what you do here. But 859 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna tell you this, Um, you've been so 860 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 1: you've been moving for I'm changing. I'm saying that this 861 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 1: like this, I don't ways think I'm dating you, but 862 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: like you we know your foundation is your foundation. No, 863 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, you know you're still You're good. But it's 864 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: just very much like it's it's a blessing to see 865 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: somebody just get better and just leaps and bows get 866 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: But I remember I feel like the first time I 867 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: saw you before and I'm it's gonna make you laugh. 868 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: It was with Jamie in London at Kathy to Parry 869 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 1: and Jamie pulled me on stage, but I was I 870 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 1: was I was front row because i was studying, all right, 871 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking at these guys come over and sing R 872 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,839 Speaker 1: and B and I'm like, well, this is just great. 873 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 1: I'm having a time and I'm a still in the 874 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 1: UK at this point. No one knows me here, right 875 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: but I'm studying and he pulls me, but I'm watching 876 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,839 Speaker 1: the background singers. I'm watching you sing and I can't 877 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 1: remember who else was there, but I just remember thinking, 878 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,439 Speaker 1: I was just like that's Tank. Like in my head, 879 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's I feel like I deserve like your 880 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: Americans are out and I'm just like that's Tank, and 881 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: they sounds so like I'm just giving all the like 882 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: there's no differentiation of respect. Well it's Jamie Watson. It's like, no, 883 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 1: that's like my whole head is just like at this time. 884 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I wasn't even paying attention when 885 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: he called me up because I didn't think he was 886 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: talking to me. But I was very like, I was 887 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,320 Speaker 1: just stunning. I was like just happy and amazed to 888 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 1: see you know, like singing just period in that period 889 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: of time on stage, you know, and then so like 890 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 1: just watching you just consistently just it's it's it's it's 891 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: a note to longevity, and it's a note to just 892 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: somebody said this to me. Bebbie Smith said it to me. 893 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: It gets greater later. You know. With capricorns, we tend 894 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,359 Speaker 1: to sit in our skin and it just gets good 895 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 1: when it gets good as we get grown because we 896 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: just sit, you know, we get more seasons than the 897 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 1: last stuff. And it's just like watching you here now 898 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: this is what I want to see, you know, this 899 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 1: is it. So I love I love your journey. It's inspiring, 900 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 1: it's beautiful and just keep me in you man, Wollah, 901 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 1: thank you. That's crazy. That was a compliment. That was 902 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 1: like like to find to to receive a compliment in 903 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 1: that moment because that was a tough moment for me. Yeah, 904 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 1: that was like, that was not Tank at its height. 905 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: That was Tank, you know, having to completely humble himself 906 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 1: and say, hey, man, I need a job, I need 907 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: to kids, I gotta pay for my kids. My career 908 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: is not cracking. Can I come on the road and 909 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 1: help you with yours? But the blessing in it is 910 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 1: that you blessed me, like you have me out here, 911 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: like I'm still up here studying, Like how do they 912 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,319 Speaker 1: sound so good? Yeah? And I got my backgrounds. I'm 913 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,279 Speaker 1: out here like, well, you don't sound good type of 914 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: people like that sounds. I learn how to. I learned 915 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,359 Speaker 1: how to. I learned how to from watching. I learned 916 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: how to manage, you know, like what I wanted to hear, 917 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,839 Speaker 1: what it should sound like, what it should be like. Yeah, 918 00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:01,320 Speaker 1: there's no formal education for this. I you're a prival singer. 919 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 1: You should you should sing, you should. You're good at 920 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: what you do, like you you know, half faster, you 921 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: go with it with excellence, you know, and the people 922 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 1: you support and the artists that you big up and 923 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 1: people that you they're excellent. They're out here doing halfway 924 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 1: music or I'm kind of sure about who they are, 925 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 1: like the quality of guests. You know, you guys out here, 926 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: it's R and B. It's real, thank you, So it's fine. 927 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: It's good. Man's cool to Johnny, thank you. Come on, 928 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 1: let's get to that real thing, that real thing. Come 929 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 1: to list for you, man. Top five Okay, Army songs, 930 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 1: Army songs, songs in jams and jams, jam and see 931 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 1: yours can be different because like you your yeah, her 932 00:55:55,239 --> 00:56:01,919 Speaker 1: information is so different. So cool, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, 933 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 1: because I had a different list, but like we're gonna 934 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 1: go with this, Okay, Marvin and Tammy pick any um, 935 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: you're not living into your loving mm hmm. Yeah, my 936 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 1: mind was blown when I heard that record. Yea words, 937 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 1: the lyrics are true, but my mind was blown when 938 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 1: I heard them sing that. I heard the vinyl of 939 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 1: it first, and and I listened to it as I'm 940 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 1: recording albums that you go through your phases of listening 941 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 1: to different arts, and I had heard it one time 942 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 1: in one frame of mind, and I was just like, 943 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,439 Speaker 1: I believe that they hadn't they were they were in love? Yeah, 944 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: I believe there was some form of soulmates to these two, 945 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 1: because you don't sing at each other like that if 946 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,280 Speaker 1: you don't believe what you're singing. There's just different energy 947 00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: and different conviction with them. Nothing. Yeah, and just to me, this, 948 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: as much as the technicality with some songs, to me 949 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,880 Speaker 1: is the feeling, it's the emotion. And that song to me, 950 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: it was just like whoa like, never tell you nothing. 951 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm right, I see why your heart 952 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 1: was broken. So I get it. I understand when she paused, 953 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 1: I get it, you know. So that's one um so 954 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 1: blessed m and and it's again it's related to the 955 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: period of time I was going through, and she's like 956 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 1: literally detailing her life and why she's so blessed. Wake 957 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 1: up in the morning for them fresh to death. I'm 958 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 1: so blessed, so blessed. You know. We went to sleep, 959 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: stress refreshed. I'm so blessed. Yes, yes, she's kind of 960 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 1: rapping on that record, so I kind of like it. 961 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: But it's the intention in the words and it just 962 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: makes it just it's like a It's like Vibratian for me, 963 00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:04,439 Speaker 1: powers me up, you know, Anita Baker give you though. 964 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 1: That's that got baby I can't wait for that tour 965 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 1: my baby face and Anita Baker that you're kidding me, man, 966 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna breathe out and get 967 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: my singing and shoes ready, get my singing pants on. 968 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm wearing flip flops, the bad time flop. 969 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 1: I need you a Baker best, I go How did 970 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: your video? How did you do it? To about his foot? 971 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: Go for it? Go for it, Desiree, gotta be Yeah. 972 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 1: I love that song. Yeah, it's good, ain't it. It's 973 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 1: simple in the same way that don't worry be happy, 974 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 1: just the two of us, don't you worry about it. 975 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 1: I think it's simple like that and American Boy just 976 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: to feel good records feels good and the words at 977 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 1: the words are true. I'm a big words and make 978 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 1: it makes sense person two people? All this fair love. 979 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 1: Stevie wonders, Well we live in Legend wrapping him in bubbles, 980 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: So grateful for him another again, John Legend, mha, because goddamn. 981 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 1: And I heard the very first aeration of that record, 982 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 1: like whatever he did, like I feel like there was 983 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 1: a version of it, or maybe there was like a 984 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 1: mix is different, something but hearing him play it, it 985 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 1: was just like, who are you showing whose who feelings 986 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 1: and whose hearts and and it's it's I'm not placing 987 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 1: them together at all, but all this fair love Stevie Wonders. 988 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Just man, I we know that comes from God. You're 989 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Annie Boltryn. Okay, I want to know who you're gonna 990 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 1: get the vocal from. Who are you gonna get here? Yeah? 991 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 1: The performance style, from the styling from and the passion 992 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 1: of the artists. Okay, I'm gonna build it who you're 993 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 1: grabbing the vocal from? The vocal shells go. She could 994 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 1: do anything, anything, She could do anything. She's not even 995 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 1: trying effortless. It feels good just to get cush you out. 996 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 1: And I will and I will take it with a smile. 997 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Maybe I deserved. How would you saying, she she's so cold, 998 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 1: just press just standing there, just cold. That's that's tough, okay, 999 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 1: Jill Scott performance style. Yeah, I'm a I'm a new 1000 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: renewed pure fan from the Vegas Residency. You've seen the 1001 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 1: first show of the second show, second show, Monster show. Jesus, 1002 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 1: he's in skates, he's skates. I can barely breathe it, like, 1003 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 1: what are we doing? Like I can't breathe it. I 1004 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 1: can't breathe sing and be on skates like pick one 1005 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 1: or the two. I can normally appreciate a great performance, 1006 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 1: but I can't do that. I can not even close that. 1007 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 1: It made me do more push ups. I'm saying, yeah, 1008 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 1: the next thing, but you gotta like sing the very doing. Yeah, 1009 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: that would be you can do that something the Agelo 1010 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 1: did that, you could do it. I gotta he did it, 1011 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: all right, he did damn that in Lon do pull ups? Well, 1012 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying, easy muscle ups. You know what I do 1013 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 1: a muscle up to the mic. People, y'all gonna start this, okay, 1014 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 1: all right? Who we got? We got vocal Jill Scott, 1015 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 1: performance style ussure um, the drip, the styling of okay, 1016 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 1: okay now because okay, I can't see myself, no joking, 1017 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 1: yea in my bag, I see myself. But like, also, 1018 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 1: you know another artist, I appreciate their style and people 1019 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 1: like and she pops out, she pops out, and she 1020 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 1: looks good every time. Santi Gold flies here, Lie, she 1021 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 1: flies here. Lie on a lot of people's vision boards, yeah, 1022 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people's boys they're taken. They're taking taking 1023 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 1: from that. Santi Gold. She's one of the ones people 1024 01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 1: need to stop watch her um passion, the heart of 1025 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:09,440 Speaker 1: the artist, the soul any A Baker down, I might 1026 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: cry Anya Baker. It was gonna be an A Baker, 1027 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 1: always gonna be Marvin and Temmy. It's either I heard 1028 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,800 Speaker 1: a need to sing a piece of Happy Birthday? How 1029 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 1: did you feel? That gave me chills, And he called 1030 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 1: me about her singing Happy Birthday. It's just a piece. 1031 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,280 Speaker 1: It ran to do my soul. Yeah, I didn't know 1032 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 1: what to do with myself. Yeah, it's about right. Yeah. 1033 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know what I'm gonna 1034 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 1: do at a full concert. No, I know what I'm 1035 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 1: gonna do. I just want you to film yourself and 1036 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 1: I'll feel myself too. He definitely gonna be feeling Okay, 1037 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:54,560 Speaker 1: look at this punk Ye gods, that's a dope bull man. 1038 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:59,440 Speaker 1: You kidding me? Yeah, Passion, that's how that's that. That 1039 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 1: her music, that's that's what taught me R and B music. 1040 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: And I love you know what I love about her? 1041 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,360 Speaker 1: What I relate the most, Like you don't have to 1042 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,400 Speaker 1: go it's hard all the time. Her tone is her 1043 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,960 Speaker 1: tone like she floats. Betty White said that to me too. 1044 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: She's like, you don't have to holler. She did. She 1045 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 1: told me I could just bet Ever tell you anything nothing. Wow. 1046 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 1: So Betty White tell Betty right, no, right, very right. 1047 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 1: She said to me. She was like, we did a 1048 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 1: Black Girls talking and the next day she's like, I 1049 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,280 Speaker 1: saw you singing Conqueror and your voice is your tone 1050 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 1: is beautiful? Just you know. She didn't say like as much. 1051 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 1: She's like you. I love that you don't like have 1052 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 1: to holler. You can just give and that's that's your 1053 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 1: superpower essentially within your Sean told me that one day, 1054 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 1: me and me and Sean were doing We're doing that record. 1055 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 1: She's both y'all flexing on me at the point, what 1056 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 1: Sean are you talking about? Stanos Menka, Honey, let's get out. 1057 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 1: This is Capricorn and he was he was talking about that. 1058 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,400 Speaker 1: He was he was doing it my Michael Jackson. You 1059 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 1: know what, Yeah, there's the big space. But he was like, 1060 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, think I don't sing Cloud. I was like, 1061 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,800 Speaker 1: what do you mean? I just this is how I sing, 1062 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 1: how I talk? Are you that's how I think? And 1063 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,480 Speaker 1: I just sing like that. I was like, uh, it works, Okay, 1064 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 1: got you. And then I was having a conversation with 1065 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,439 Speaker 1: my kid, kid the kid Darryl Walls from Walls Group, 1066 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 1: and he was like, he's like, I gotta get out 1067 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 1: of screaming, man. I was like, I'm trying to figure 1068 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,400 Speaker 1: out how to get out of it too. Yeah, because 1069 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,560 Speaker 1: I just have this the space of aggression that I 1070 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 1: love to go to and and and that's always been 1071 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 1: me emulating John p Key. Yeah, it's always been me 1072 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 1: trying to live in that heavy space when I'm naturally 1073 01:05:55,640 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 1: a cross between baby Face and Brian Knight. That's where 1074 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 1: I naturally live. Yeah. Right, It's just like how do 1075 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 1: I how do I dial it back? What I mean, 1076 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 1: get present and just and even explore more of my 1077 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,520 Speaker 1: lower register which I never use, Like I can sign 1078 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 1: down here. I'm saying, who's very white right now? Can we? 1079 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 1: You'll never find we need more? No, Barry White is listen, 1080 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 1: Barry White is underrated. That's brilliant. He's he was a monster, 1081 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 1: but brilliant. He used to take his time and and 1082 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,920 Speaker 1: spawned so many groups and just musical album like Understand 1083 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 1: for Fun. Yeah, hey, listen, the most urgent. He sound 1084 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 1: was like, what's the world? Boom boom boom boom boom 1085 01:06:52,760 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 1: boom boom. What's that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love you 1086 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 1: just a little bit more, Yeah, exactly, singing hard my 1087 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 1: first everything everything, Yeah, given, give me Yeah, exploring that 1088 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:24,440 Speaker 1: that that balance, that's just graceful space in your register 1089 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 1: and in your tone, like it's a love internal Yeah, 1090 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 1: like calming it down, it's it's got to be. It's 1091 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,840 Speaker 1: really got to be on purpose for me because I 1092 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:39,640 Speaker 1: get hype. Just you got it. I want to hear more. 1093 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:50,880 Speaker 1: I want to hear it there. Okay, I'm saying no 1094 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 1: names name. Ain't saying no names, no name, who you with, 1095 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:04,760 Speaker 1: where you was, what you did? Who your friend? No name? 1096 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:21,840 Speaker 1: Not say no name. Yeah, I like that, like that movie. Yeah, 1097 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 1: so you know we had that, We had that part 1098 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,599 Speaker 1: of the show. We're here, you know, you know little 1099 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:40,880 Speaker 1: see more from Yeah, leave me shop my hearts. So 1100 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 1: this segment of the show, it's caught. I ain't saying 1101 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 1: on that. Will you tell us your story? God? Funnier 1102 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,559 Speaker 1: fucked up and the Travels of a Stale and Steale 1103 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,600 Speaker 1: is from you know, she's from across the water. So 1104 01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 1: it could be a story from across the Waters if 1105 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 1: you want to, you know, pond the river, our pondi 1106 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 1: river if you want to, Yeah, only ruling the story. 1107 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:13,480 Speaker 1: Oh God. In the segment, you can't say the names, 1108 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:20,559 Speaker 1: no names, all right? Can I say what they do? Yes? Yes, yes, 1109 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,360 Speaker 1: yes you can. You can. You can explain the things 1110 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:28,479 Speaker 1: around it. You can't explain the characteristics. You can't say 1111 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:35,040 Speaker 1: their name? Are they aliases? He can't say none of 1112 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 1: that's all right? I have one Oh yeah, and I'm 1113 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,240 Speaker 1: gonna presee this with this person's like hold on, hold on, 1114 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:46,559 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, because right now today are tonight, 1115 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:52,880 Speaker 1: if it's overseas, we are going to a stale. I 1116 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:58,280 Speaker 1: ain't saying no name. Ain't saying no names, all right? 1117 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 1: This person is like we love to say that, you know, 1118 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,760 Speaker 1: like Wayne Brady was in Dave Chappelle's like he just 1119 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,760 Speaker 1: pops up and the weirdest shit. Okay, A person's like 1120 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:15,320 Speaker 1: that to me, very smooth R and B singer, really cool. 1121 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 1: So we have this show for a really well known publication, 1122 01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:25,480 Speaker 1: and we're in the middle of like, oh my Hartebraska 1123 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:31,400 Speaker 1: something like that, Like somewhere we're literally in cornfields and 1124 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,920 Speaker 1: I fly in and I'm just like, they give me 1125 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:39,840 Speaker 1: this like really small like backstage eariot, like a little 1126 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 1: the Winnebagoes yeah, and I'm like, oh, I'm thinking it's 1127 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,720 Speaker 1: just whatever, and I'm not really looking around when I 1128 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 1: go to do my shows. I going to do my 1129 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 1: thing and leave. I go in and I'm like, okay, 1130 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:52,680 Speaker 1: well this is I had to quick. We're only here 1131 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,880 Speaker 1: for a couple of hours. It is I don't even 1132 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 1: know what this thing is. I step in, I look 1133 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,559 Speaker 1: at I step outside and it was like, well, I'll 1134 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 1: just wait out here. This is not cute at all. 1135 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,760 Speaker 1: This is not cute. Put put my shoes in the bag, 1136 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,680 Speaker 1: in the trunk, changing the truck, it'd be fine. Um. 1137 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 1: And we're standing outside. It's me, my DJ, my role manager, 1138 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,479 Speaker 1: and it's quiet. But I looked to my left and 1139 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:22,759 Speaker 1: it's beautiful Winnebagol. This thing is like four yard blocks. 1140 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,880 Speaker 1: This thing is just big Winnebago is going for like 1141 01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,439 Speaker 1: half the field and I'm here like who is this for? 1142 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 1: And I'm really not paying any mind. Didn't look at 1143 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 1: the set list or nothing, and it's the artists. When 1144 01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,880 Speaker 1: a baby go I'm not fast. I don't go in there. 1145 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be respect for Oh it's cute. They 1146 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 1: probably never gonna use it, but it's probably like mad 1147 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:47,720 Speaker 1: things in there, but whatever, mad like cool war like 1148 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,479 Speaker 1: I had like a trade like with a with a 1149 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,639 Speaker 1: water and a croak. Okay, It's like it was terrible. 1150 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,280 Speaker 1: It's just very opposite. We're standing there and we're just 1151 01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,840 Speaker 1: out here talking me my DJ I'm a manager, and 1152 01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:05,679 Speaker 1: we're just standing there. All of a sudden, hear down 1153 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:11,559 Speaker 1: the field a out it just ain't and they ain't 1154 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:16,640 Speaker 1: saying that Abby's in't that track blaring. This suv is 1155 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:21,639 Speaker 1: like moving down this cornfield and I'm like having the time, like, who, 1156 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,519 Speaker 1: what is happening? What is what's going on? Because it's 1157 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:29,600 Speaker 1: very it's very quiet, it's very chill. And then the 1158 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,519 Speaker 1: arm recing pops up and he's like hey, he's like 1159 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 1: shirts and whoever, and he's going for it, and I'm 1160 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,120 Speaker 1: just like my head is doing the whole swivel, like 1161 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:44,680 Speaker 1: what is going on now? I'm I am just consistently 1162 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,759 Speaker 1: just what is happening. He's like pulls up with the skirt, 1163 01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,599 Speaker 1: his driver pulls up with the skirt and he pops 1164 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,240 Speaker 1: out and he's like barely got a shot. And he's like, hey, yo, 1165 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 1: just come come in, come in the trailer, and so 1166 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm already just mind blowing that he's wrapping 1167 01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,719 Speaker 1: NICKI minar. I'm realistic bees in the track, I'm realistic 1168 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:10,519 Speaker 1: deserbels pulling through this cornfield. And I'm just like, oh okay. 1169 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,880 Speaker 1: So then we go into we all go into the 1170 01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 1: mansion of this Winnebago. It's beautiful Winnebago, and I'm just 1171 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:21,839 Speaker 1: looking at my Winnebegel going this is whole soul store confused, 1172 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,840 Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, how are you getting back to 1173 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,120 Speaker 1: how you get back to New York. I's living in 1174 01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,160 Speaker 1: New York at the time, hanging back to New York. Oh, 1175 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,720 Speaker 1: fly back tomorrow. Just come to me on the jet. 1176 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 1: My whole soul is just having a time because you guys, 1177 01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,040 Speaker 1: this beautiful Winnebago, they flay you here on the jet like, 1178 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 1: and he's just like, just come to me on the jet, 1179 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,200 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I have people with me, Oh okay, 1180 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,280 Speaker 1: And he's just very much like it's just like it is. 1181 01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 1: He's living a completely different reality than me, and it's 1182 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,040 Speaker 1: it's same music. It's all turned. It's just vibes up 1183 01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,040 Speaker 1: in this in this Winnebago, and when I tell you, 1184 01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 1: he sings the smoothest of music. So it's just blowing 1185 01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,200 Speaker 1: my mind that this is all the way turned up. 1186 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,080 Speaker 1: And so I go and I perform, and then I 1187 01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:04,439 Speaker 1: get off and I'm just like, I don't want to go, 1188 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,880 Speaker 1: and I was like, wait and see what this artist does. 1189 01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:11,719 Speaker 1: It's dusk, and he damn near turns into Marvin Gay 1190 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,799 Speaker 1: on stage and he's just it's just our and beer. 1191 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 1: And I'm just like looking at him going forty five 1192 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:26,160 Speaker 1: minutes ago. You was bes in the track what is going? 1193 01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,560 Speaker 1: So like it just lets me know. And and this 1194 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,720 Speaker 1: just keeps happening. Every time I see him in random circumstances, 1195 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 1: it'd be some very wild like I'm standing there going okay, well, 1196 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what's about to happen. 1197 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,439 Speaker 1: This is nuts. We might another time we ended up 1198 01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 1: he ended up wrapping Rick Ross outside of a walk 1199 01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,639 Speaker 1: through and I sat there like this one is joining, 1200 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,479 Speaker 1: but just sat still because I wasn't sure. I didn't 1201 01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,360 Speaker 1: know what was going to happen. Man, I just didn't know. 1202 01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,479 Speaker 1: It was just and he's just the very the exact 1203 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,680 Speaker 1: opposite of all of this as a person, as an 1204 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,320 Speaker 1: artist that we know him to be in real life. 1205 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:08,080 Speaker 1: It's very don't more than more than more than me 1206 01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:12,000 Speaker 1: when I'm in my vibe, it's quite interesting. So it's 1207 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,639 Speaker 1: very it's just a very like what the hell is happening? 1208 01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,880 Speaker 1: R and B will surprise you. We will surprise you, man. 1209 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 1: And you know you feel like the artist follows, you know, 1210 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,800 Speaker 1: their personals follow their outside na never this R and 1211 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:30,679 Speaker 1: B thing. It's differ it's very very strange. It's different. Yeah, 1212 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 1: it was very weird. So that's that's my like, what 1213 01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:37,200 Speaker 1: the hell? People people crazy? And they have beautiful Winne 1214 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:41,080 Speaker 1: bagels and jets and window bagos and jets and jets. 1215 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:42,400 Speaker 1: I was tired though, because I was just like, the 1216 01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,320 Speaker 1: thing is beautiful, Look it's clean, look at the floors, 1217 01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:51,840 Speaker 1: like I've been some of those not so nice tidy winnebagels, 1218 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:53,760 Speaker 1: and you just have to hold it kind of thing 1219 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,080 Speaker 1: to a degree. You're just like, you know, what, it'll 1220 01:15:56,120 --> 01:16:01,000 Speaker 1: be fun today, you know, for two hours, I'll just 1221 01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 1: sit in the cart sitting. We'll just go from the spring. 1222 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,160 Speaker 1: What I'm saying will be But I think it's so 1223 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:12,439 Speaker 1: different for for for female artists. I think, you know, 1224 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,680 Speaker 1: even though you know when females are on the come up, 1225 01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,760 Speaker 1: I get it, you know what I'm saying. The accommodations 1226 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,960 Speaker 1: aren't always going to be the greatest for new artists, 1227 01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,639 Speaker 1: but a female has to get ready a different kind 1228 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,880 Speaker 1: of way. Yeah, and I wish, I wish, I wish 1229 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:31,120 Speaker 1: promoters would be more mindful of that. It comes to 1230 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,320 Speaker 1: your boundary so too. You have to tell them from 1231 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,200 Speaker 1: the rip, I don't do that. It's not how I move. 1232 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,240 Speaker 1: You have to get the thing. It's like, oh yeah, 1233 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,599 Speaker 1: we got it, get and then you and then then 1234 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,120 Speaker 1: it's also up to you as an artist to know 1235 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,040 Speaker 1: what you're walking into sometimes like uh no, you don't 1236 01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:47,880 Speaker 1: like you got it. I'm going to change the hotel. 1237 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,360 Speaker 1: I'll be there when I'll bet I'm there. There's a 1238 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 1: there's a certain fee, a certain fee in the rider. 1239 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,000 Speaker 1: You know, if you don't meet the need to require 1240 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna cost you because because if you miss out 1241 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:05,960 Speaker 1: on the food, yeah right there with that, that so 1242 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 1: twelve hundred, Yeah, you miss out do this wrong. It 1243 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:22,240 Speaker 1: is tears of wrongdoing. It's gonna cost James two times, 1244 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,360 Speaker 1: um stale, thank you so much for just giving us 1245 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:33,600 Speaker 1: your time, you know, giving us good energy, blessing us. 1246 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,479 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like blessing us, Like you're 1247 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,240 Speaker 1: always you're always dope to be around. Thank you, And 1248 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,720 Speaker 1: I hope you know that. You know your name is 1249 01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 1: associated with all good things, all good energy, all good vibes. 1250 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:53,439 Speaker 1: There's nobody in this world I know. I was like, 1251 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:57,040 Speaker 1: I know that somebody, but like, because you probably get 1252 01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:02,599 Speaker 1: to the ship if you're going, you want look about. Yeah, 1253 01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure doing your outside outside day, you know, saying 1254 01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:11,360 Speaker 1: we're good. Nobody, I really, I really don't like I 1255 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 1: try and standing up on my stuff, somebody walking up. 1256 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,200 Speaker 1: You seen it there, let me know you see it. 1257 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,120 Speaker 1: You see that. I try to stand in my world 1258 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,280 Speaker 1: as much as I can. And if you have beef 1259 01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 1: with me, um say it. And if you don't think 1260 01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,600 Speaker 1: you don't know me, well, yeah we're good. And if 1261 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,639 Speaker 1: you do, it's harmony. Sorry, but your name is good 1262 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,840 Speaker 1: on every month. Luther can't have been so you loved here, Yeah, 1263 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:37,960 Speaker 1: you love And I promise I would start running up 1264 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,479 Speaker 1: on you coming on the podcast. And now you've come, 1265 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm walking out of places. So you coming. I know 1266 01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,000 Speaker 1: you're trying to enjoy yourself in here and I'm trying 1267 01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 1: to leave, but I just want to make sure you're 1268 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,320 Speaker 1: gonna pull up. Everybody was looking forward to you to come. 1269 01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,320 Speaker 1: My daughters. I was like this this stell here, yeah 1270 01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:02,240 Speaker 1: listening still Zion has everybody Yo, what beautiful family so 1271 01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,160 Speaker 1: grown like I was like, I see and I look 1272 01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,000 Speaker 1: out for them like they my kids. By the way, 1273 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 1: I was last I see yeah concert. I was like, yeah, 1274 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:13,640 Speaker 1: all right, I tell you, I see her. I see her. 1275 01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,840 Speaker 1: She would probably be we good, okay, But we are 1276 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,479 Speaker 1: appreciative of your energy. I'm appreciative of your contributions. Thank 1277 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:24,480 Speaker 1: you for having just to the universe overall. Nice personale. 1278 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,680 Speaker 1: This is developed by me in the COVID and I'm 1279 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,280 Speaker 1: just continuing the vibe roses. Keep the vibes going. Thank you. 1280 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,000 Speaker 1: We like roses. I'm on entrepreneurship. What's the name of it? 1281 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,479 Speaker 1: Est nineteen eighty a home clothes, home close home clothes. 1282 01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,759 Speaker 1: Can you go online if you look on at Instagram? 1283 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,080 Speaker 1: Is at Est nineteen eighty eight. I just do sweats, 1284 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,720 Speaker 1: I do comfey clothing and you know, stuff to make 1285 01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:53,479 Speaker 1: you feel good and comfortable in your skin. Um, I'm 1286 01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,120 Speaker 1: taking im Jay Valentine and this has been the RMB 1287 01:19:56,200 --> 01:20:01,320 Speaker 1: Money podcast, the authority on all things ARB and Pat 1288 01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:09,400 Speaker 1: Royalty Field just the greatest energy ever. That's it. We're 1289 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,880 Speaker 1: gonna continue to vibes, but I love one to step Yeah. 1290 01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:19,960 Speaker 1: R and B Money is a production of the Black 1291 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:24,760 Speaker 1: Effect Podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the 1292 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,720 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 1293 01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,639 Speaker 1: favorite shows. 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