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Speaker 2: May no light, ain't gonna be seen. That ain't no Mike,

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Speaker 2: you ain't gonna be heard. And that's one of the

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Speaker 2: problems that we had with HBC. I wanted to bless you,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to be with you. I wanted to enhance you.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to help you now because of success. Ain't

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Speaker 2: success without a successful So we got to help one

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Speaker 2: another and brothers got to do this. You, I can't

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Speaker 2: be staying offish when I see some hongry dogs out

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Speaker 2: there trying to eat. I came here because God called

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Speaker 3: All right, eu y l we made our way down

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Speaker 3: to Mississippi for the first time ever? Is your first time, Misssippy?

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Speaker 4: I mean I have no family in the South.

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Speaker 3: So you say, of course, like because you know that,

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Speaker 3: no thought about it like it wasn't It's not really

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Speaker 2: It's not really destination you're gonna bring you later. Let's

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Speaker 4: Exactly right, Like my family is from the Islands, and

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Speaker 4: so you should.

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Speaker 5: You had to throw that, like you know, literally, but

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Speaker 5: that's changing my family.

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Speaker 2: That's changing though.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, So we we're here with Coach prom one

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Speaker 3: of the greatest ever in a variety of different aspects,

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Speaker 3: a real goat in the game, and somebody who I

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Speaker 3: drew a lot of inspiration from as far as cultural influence,

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Speaker 3: I was talking the Jalen Roads last week, shout out

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Speaker 3: to Jaalen, good dude, and I was telling him how

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Speaker 3: much the Fab five meant to me. Yeah, it meant

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Speaker 3: a lot. Yes, I mean like outside of basketball, but

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Speaker 3: just the culture they.

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Speaker 2: The game.

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Speaker 3: Similarly you did is well, I remember playing that. I

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Speaker 3: think what ninety six one of those Madden games, and

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Speaker 3: I will play with you two way player San Francisco

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Speaker 3: Atlanta first. Well, yeah, but San Francisco. I think he

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Speaker 3: had a higher rating. You might have to high.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how the same game. Yeah, different team name,

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Speaker 5: Another thing, I'm glad you brought Upjohn because one he says,

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Speaker 5: there's very few people that can trans like they can

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Speaker 5: go bigger than their sport, right, like even when they

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Speaker 4: They be remembered? And so like you've managed to do.

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Speaker 5: That obviously, Like we grew up on prime time, and

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Speaker 4: Like I'm a Yankee fan, dial.

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Speaker 5: I remember the Yankees when you were playing there, and

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Speaker 5: Sense where it's like you you became a pop popcon

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Speaker 5: You're like one of the first guys I ever saw

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Speaker 2: Championship man, I appreciate it. I had some wonderful memories

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Speaker 2: and that then wonderful great one of the greatest secondaries

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Speaker 2: You be true?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy's like a supports. We interviewed a b

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Speaker 3: That was the funniest thing ever. He was like, who

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Speaker 3: Because his things like nobody remembers super Bowl. He's like,

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Speaker 3: you remember who won in eighty nine? He's like yeah,

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Speaker 3: He's like okay, but we can go on with this

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Speaker 3: conversation forever. But first and foremost, it's honoring the pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Thank thank you for sure. So I want to get

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Speaker 3: feel that this conversation is very important right now. I

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Speaker 2: It is a lot of.

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Speaker 3: People have different, you know, takes on it. I know

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Speaker 2: With He was really speaking to gospel, but it just

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Speaker 3: Okay, So what is your thoughts on in I L?

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Speaker 3: And how have you or have you been able.

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Speaker 2: To let me do one at a time because I

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Speaker 2: can't remember my mom fifty five It just looked good.

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Speaker 2: It's supposed to be name, image and likeness that these

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Speaker 2: youngsters are getting compensated from. I have no problem with that.

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Speaker 2: I like that. I think they should be compensated. But

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Speaker 2: it needs to be named image and likeness. So when

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Speaker 2: we say name, image and likeness, that means I need

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Speaker 2: to see you endorsing something right. So when you hear

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Speaker 2: about these crazy figures, some of these college athletes are

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Speaker 2: getting what do you see them on? I got time?

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Speaker 2: What maybe one guy a quarterback from Alabama and my

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Speaker 2: son you know who has quite a few endorsements. But really,

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Speaker 2: you have collectives, that's what coach Saban was saying. You

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Speaker 2: have collectives who who's gotten together which is another name

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Speaker 2: for a bunch of handsomely compensated boosters, gotten together and

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Speaker 2: put money in a pot and say, okay, we got

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Speaker 2: twenty million here, coach, here, you go do your thing.

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Speaker 2: So the coach said, well, let me go get this

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Speaker 2: guy right here. I give him one, I give him

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Speaker 2: five hundred, I give it. That's what that's not name,

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Speaker 2: image and likeness. That's just really a collective just breaking

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Speaker 2: Now that upsets the little guy. How we gonna compete

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Speaker 2: with death at HBCUs when I believe seven percent if

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Speaker 2: that gives back to the schools in which they graduated

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Speaker 2: from a MADA, Yes, and it might be being kind by

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Speaker 3: For HBCUs are just in general.

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Speaker 2: HBCUs, not in general HBCUs. So that upsets the balance

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Speaker 2: of what we're trying to do. We don't have collectives.

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Speaker 2: The best we could do as kids earning a real nil.

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Speaker 2: But when you think about it, just think about what

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Speaker 2: it's kind of far fetched because it really has no value.

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Speaker 2: So what you're really doing besides just giving them money?

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Speaker 2: So don't pretend like it's this when it's really that.

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Speaker 2: That's my problem. But I do feel like these guys

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Speaker 4: So as a coach and dealing with that, knowing the parameters,

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Speaker 2: Is that still in dre Brady data rade? And there's

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Speaker 2: a couple more that he really endorses. So that's real

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Speaker 2: not a collective.

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Speaker 4: Right, So like, how intricate were you in that process?

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Speaker 2: So I wasn't let him figure involved in that process.

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Speaker 2: Now what I can do because he's my son. As

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Speaker 5: Did you still was a new rule in today that

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Speaker 5: And I didn't even notice till recently that international players

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Speaker 5: So there's a kicker at Cincinnati he actually is. He

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Speaker 5: has endorsements, but he's given it to walk Ons and

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Speaker 5: so liked they said, like seven percent of the NCAA

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Speaker 5: football players are international athletes. I know a lot come

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Speaker 4: What's yourself on the earth?

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Speaker 2: I mean to me, a athletes, an athlete, whether no

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Speaker 2: still going through the same trials and tribulations as a

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Speaker 2: young man. He should be able to be compensated just

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Speaker 2: like the others. If he's going through the process that

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Speaker 2: Trying to secure a degree and trying to secure his

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Speaker 3: I think basketball probably has a lot more international players

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Speaker 3: than football. True, but in a perfect world, what do

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Speaker 3: you think a better solution is? You think that athletes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then just say you pay. You say everybody's

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Speaker 2: gonna make five grand a month. Okay, Now you got

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. Another girl friend of Osmo

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Speaker 2: Out freshman ain't ready for that. This is a basketball

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Speaker 3: So you don't think there's ever an exception like.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't. We could say a guy like Adrian

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Speaker 5: So you you're here at Jackson State, all right, And

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Speaker 5: And obviously you've come here with the intent, but what

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Speaker 2: You got a ball out. You got a ball out,

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Speaker 2: But if it ain't no light, you ain't gonna be seen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I wondered did you come in here with the

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Speaker 4: But you came here.

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you this, as far as social media,

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Speaker 2: It is definitely my idea. What my son does is

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Speaker 3: And like I said, I feel like you understand culture

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Speaker 2: Man. You guys are yeah, you guys are like you

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Speaker 2: I wanted to help you because of success. Ain't success

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Speaker 2: and brothers got to do this. I can't be staying

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Speaker 3: Man, appreciate that. Thank you, thank you. I just I

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Speaker 3: Because I haven't seen any other college or even other

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Speaker 2: We have no budget for it. We have no budget.

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Speaker 2: If you understood what I know, you're gonna do your

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Speaker 2: You know the paper route bought when we doing all that. Man,

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Speaker 2: it's free, and that's the way we compete.

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Speaker 4: And it's the youngsters.

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Speaker 2: Right there they write down their phone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when you look at the social engagement, some of

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Speaker 4: And Jack Steak, yeah, we got them.

436
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Speaker 2: So it ain't the school in the nation that can

437
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Speaker 2: touch us because of the coach's influence.

438
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Speaker 5: So that I'm glad you said that. This is exactly

439
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Speaker 5: where I wanted to go because I'm thinking to myself this.

440
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Speaker 5: Most coaches promote.

441
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Speaker 4: Themselves, not their programs or something.

442
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Speaker 5: Right, You ever see them do an ad with a brand,

443
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 5: it's usually for the brand, and it's like I'm the person,

444
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 5: I'm the personality. But every time you endorse, it's you

445
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 5: and it's Jackson State. And so there was another HBCU grad,

446
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 5: Michaels straighthand last snack entertainment. Yeah right, And so I'm wondering,

447
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 5: like again, just having the mindset to.

448
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Speaker 4: Say, all right, y'all gonna promote me.

449
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 5: I'm gonna promote everything that I have going on just

450
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 5: being one of the most important things was that the strategy.

451
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Speaker 2: And it don't stop. It's almost like anybody I get

452
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: into bed and partner with got to get into bed

453
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Speaker 2: with my people too. So everybody I have a deal

454
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Speaker 2: with has blessed Jackson's State in some capacity because that

455
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 2: comes along with the territory. If you're gonna get down

456
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: with me, you're gonna get down with what I'm down with.

457
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: And the kids love it. I mean the kids one

458
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Speaker 2: hundred percent love it. And we're able to bring CEOs

459
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Speaker 2: and zoom a guy like straight hand in on our

460
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Speaker 2: morning meetings and let him talk and communicate with these

461
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Speaker 2: youngsters that have only seen him on television although they

462
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Speaker 2: seeing him on the screen, that he's there, he's gonna

463
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 2: be to the homecoming game. They've met snooped. I mean,

464
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Speaker 2: everybody you would think of had the young j Z.

465
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Speaker 2: Every you could think of have rolled through man, and

466
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Speaker 2: I love it because Oftentimes at HBCUs they only hear

467
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 2: about success stories. They never get to see them live

468
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Speaker 2: and in person.

469
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Speaker 3: So speaking of HBCUs, you said something earlier. You said

470
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Speaker 3: that HBCUs aren't ready yet. And we see, of course

471
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Speaker 3: what you're doing Jackson State Howard. I think they just

472
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Speaker 3: got a Jordan. So how do they get because enough,

473
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Speaker 3: like you said, the budget is always going to be

474
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Speaker 3: in the favor of the power schools, whereas Texas they

475
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Speaker 3: have their own network.

476
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Speaker 2: But did you gotta say why somebody? As soon as

477
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Speaker 2: later you got to say why?

478
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Speaker 3: So how do we change it? How do we get

479
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Speaker 3: the HBCUs ready?

480
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Speaker 2: First of all, we got to get that business straight.

481
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: We got to get the business straight. When I say

482
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Speaker 2: the business straight, I could start from ticket sales all

483
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Speaker 2: the way to concessions, to apparel, to understanding TV rights,

484
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: and I could keep going down the list that you

485
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Speaker 2: got to get this stuff together before. Oh you think

486
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: God is gonna bless you, God don't bless nohe that's raggedy,

487
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Speaker 2: because that's gonna be self destruction. The only way God

488
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Speaker 2: is gonna bless you is you ready for the blessing.

489
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Speaker 2: He's not gonna put something on you that you can't carry,

490
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Speaker 2: you can't handle, and we're just now getting to the

491
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Speaker 2: point that we could handle the blessings that he has

492
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Speaker 2: for us. When I first got him, Know, we couldn't

493
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Speaker 2: and I'm not just saying it just because of me,

494
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Speaker 2: but no, we couldn't because we were raggedy and it

495
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Speaker 2: was no structure, no order. I mean, you go out

496
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Speaker 2: there and kids thought they were going to field with

497
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Speaker 2: this on this, on that. No, no, no, no, we

498
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Speaker 2: were black socks, we were this, we were that. We're

499
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Speaker 2: a uniform team. You know why because in the NFL,

500
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Speaker 2: if you don't have on this type of uniform in

501
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Speaker 2: the game, you get fined first finus thirty five hundred

502
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Speaker 2: and seventy five hundred and fifteen thousand. Then it goes

503
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Speaker 2: all the way up. The kids don't know about that.

504
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Speaker 4: I said, you know what, you want to wear your

505
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Speaker 4: shirt out?

506
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Speaker 2: If you do it in the NFL, guess what this is?

507
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: What that is? Now? All those kids you see on

508
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: television with the shirts out, See they got Grandma or

509
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: Auntie saying, you know, can I hold summer? They saying no.

510
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: But they just gave away fifteen thousand dollars just to

511
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: kick it and that's anyoddic to me. They don't understand

512
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: it until it's over. When that's when they see homes

513
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: start to come closer. Then you start thinking about, man,

514
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 2: I had two hundred and its fifty thousand dollars worth

515
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: of fines in my career over foolish and just trying

516
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Speaker 2: to stump.

517
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Speaker 5: I'm thinking to myself, that was one of the things

518
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Speaker 5: I loved about you, was like you kind of did

519
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 5: have it touched there. You had to change on sometimes.

520
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 5: Like whatever he was, he never.

521
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Speaker 2: Broke ruse and the guy who established them, I made

522
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Speaker 2: sure I got straight with him. I said, I'm gonna

523
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Speaker 2: push the envelope a little bit now, Okay, Okay. So

524
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Speaker 2: if I had my gloves and I had them open, cool,

525
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: no root breaking. But when I had the ones with

526
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Speaker 2: the prime and the time out like that, they say, okay,

527
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: you can wear them. So now I made the gloves

528
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Speaker 2: with no class. Okay. The shocks were a certain way,

529
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 2: you know, but it was always uniform. I've never did

530
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: nothing out of a character and out of order for

531
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: the NFL. I just look good in Mauna.

532
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this, as far as collaboration,

533
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 3: how important because obviously Jackson State is is getting all

534
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: the attention right now that.

535
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: We getting all attentions because we're winning.

536
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm not I'm saying you should get all

537
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: attentions right I'm just saying, how important is it to

538
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: collaborate with other teams in the swag other HBCUs to

539
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: kind of mean the coaches, Yeah, share information, share resources.

540
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: I've got many of the several of the coaches on

541
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: the zoom call and say, let's talk about our biggest

542
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: nemesis or detractors or cancers, and we just talked about it,

543
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: and ironically everybody's dealing with the same foolishes, but people

544
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: just don't talk about it. But this is the problem.

545
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: I could say stuff. Coach George could stay stuff, Coach

546
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: Hugh Jackson could say stuff, you know you got the

547
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: NFL pipe gods, excuse me. But some guys that don't

548
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: have that, they may can't elaborate and talk about the

549
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: dysfunction that to dealing with because they're subject to be fired.

550
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: And when we do it, you may not like it.

551
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 2: But I'm not lying. So if I'm saying how we

552
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: gonna be on TV, you ain't sell out a durned

553
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: home game. So who won't want to film an empty stadium.

554
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: They may not like it, but I ain't lying. How

555
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: can we have sixty thousand people in the Durance Stadium?

556
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: You talking about we sold out, and I checked the

557
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: receipts and we don't sold twenty eight thousand tickets. Now

558
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: y'all better find out who's still it because that affects

559
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: my pocket. You may not like it, but I ain't lying.

560
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: So it's a lot of stuff like that. And it's

561
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: more that goes on on that we got to address.

562
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: And I just have the audacity to address it because

563
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: it's for the kids. It's for the kids.

564
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

565
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 5: When I hear you speak, I mean, obviously you representing

566
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 5: Jackson State, but you're speaking for the entire conference, is it.

567
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 5: I think you were critical of Grambling and you were saying, like, look,

568
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 5: I think the word was pathetic, like their attendance.

569
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 4: You right down the street, right, so.

570
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: Right down the street, and this is your biggest game

571
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: of the season. Okay. I know you get down with

572
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: Southern in the classic you know, I know y'all can't

573
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: wait the party for these classics, and I get sick

574
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: of that these classes that ain't nobody making no money,

575
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 2: but you want to go there.

576
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: I want to go there, Okay, but you right down

577
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: the street.

578
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: This is your biggest game, like we're the dogs, like

579
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: we're the ones you want to get and you don't

580
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: come to support that. And your coaches already sounded off,

581
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: and I was really having his back. He's already sounded

582
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: off at your attendance and your participation, and you didn't

583
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: come for this. And then when we get up on

584
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: you three, I know you said the heat and all

585
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: that it was hot, folks is fall. Now the heat

586
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: was on our side to it.

587
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 4: That was fun.

588
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't just on one side of the stadium that

589
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 2: the heat was just on their side. No, when we

590
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: got up a few touchdowns, the heat got hot because

591
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: when it was tight, everybody was there and cheering, and

592
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: you're like the church said, yeah, but when we hit

593
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: that gill, yeah you got hot. Yeah. Since the six

594
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: points later got hot up in there in there. Yeah,

595
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: but all those people who really dealt with the heat exhaustion.

596
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: I prayed for him, I really do, because it happened

597
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: on both sides.

598
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Speaker 5: Now, I was gonna say so that that approach long

599
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 5: term obviously will obviously lift the conference unless HPC us

600
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Speaker 5: in general.

601
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Speaker 4: All right, that's the approach.

602
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 5: So the other thing about that is that you are

603
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Speaker 5: the leader of the swack right now, and so when

604
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 5: you we are the leader, you are we we are

605
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 5: the leaders. So well, you went to a bowl game

606
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 5: last year?

607
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: Cool?

608
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 5: And so when the when the bulls get paid out,

609
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 5: the paid out for the school or is there a

610
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 5: part of that that goes to the conference as well?

611
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: How does that work? You're good, it's paid to the schools.

612
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: Both schools get a a sum of money. My question

613
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: was if we went out there and we want to

614
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: did that while we splitting some that we did that

615
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: the pro the football program did that. The school didn't

616
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: do that. The football program did that. So those are

617
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: my questions as well as concerns. Okay, yeah, I want

618
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: to see that. How is that regulated and dispensed? Right?

619
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Speaker 5: Dispersed rather, that's the key word, because again, and I

620
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 5: heard you speak about it, like the guys in that

621
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 5: locker room, of the ones putting their lives on the line,

622
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 5: they're risking the health and safety. Obviously, if something is

623
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 5: coming back to the school, majority of it should.

624
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Speaker 2: Be for the people who at least you many percentage

625
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: okay and unfair show many percentage. And I know we

626
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: have some some some things that we need to address

627
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: amongst the school, but we did this. Man. Let's take

628
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: care of us and the things that we have shortcomings

629
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: that we have right now, and then we'll deal with

630
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 2: the school needs.

631
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Speaker 3: So you made history last year. You got the number

632
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: one play in the country, Travis Hunter. And you know

633
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: that's obviously something I don't think i's ever been done

634
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: before the HBCU to get the numb so it's always

635
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: been talked about, but you actually was able to do it.

636
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: How was that conversation with his family? How were you

637
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: able to convince him to come into Jackson State? Was

638
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: a was a better choice than going to any other

639
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: school that he could have went to.

640
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: We didn't have to really convince Travis to come to

641
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 2: Jackson State. We just really had to show Travis through

642
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: the way and show him to like the mistake that

643
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: the other schools made eight was to allow Travis to

644
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: come to a homecom You don't want to let a

645
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: top recruit come to a HPC homecoming. Earns.

646
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Speaker 4: What's going on as you gear a fall?

647
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Speaker 2: No, that's just like coming to a carnival, a wonderful gathering, yeah,

670
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Speaker 2: A wonderful gathering of a family reading. Yeah. So, and

671
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: we have some of the same things in common travels

672
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: like the fish. I love the fish. The kid studied

673
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: my life and thank god because he knows me like

674
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: a book and I felt like I knew him. So

675
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: when we got down and really started to talk about

676
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: things in this game and what he wanted to accomplish

677
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: in this game, it's like, I'm your navigational system. Everything

678
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: you talked about, I'm done, let's go. It wasn't no begging,

679
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 2: no pleading, no strong arm, and no payday. Travis's mother

680
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: is wonderful spiritual woman as well, and she got it.

681
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 2: I mean she got it. She's like my baby coming here.

682
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: That's what it is. And you know, that's really how

683
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: I went down. It wasn't it wasn't no tooth pull,

684
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: it wasn't nothing like that. He wanted to be here,

685
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: and we made it possible for him to be here.

686
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure a lot of players, I mean, what

687
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: better to learn from the best, like So that's an

688
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: advantage that I don't think anybody else really has. So

689
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: I'm sure that's very good for recruiting. Yeah, if they're

690
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: looking to take that correct to the next level, they

691
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: can learn from the best that's ever did it.

692
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: Not only on the field, but off the fielding in life.

693
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: So Travis watches everything, man like you can't do nothing

694
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: with that. And White we were sitting in the training

695
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: room together today, just sitting on the table, and that's

696
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: going over my foot and it was doing his anger.

697
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: I say, know what, dog, you get me your left

698
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: leg and I give you my right and we a

699
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 2: whole dog. So the nickname is baby prom whore. Travis. Yeah,

700
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: I never heard that. I'm wondering.

701
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 5: I'm wondering because I've read that you said this, Maybe

702
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 5: didn't that he's at this point of his life better

703
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 5: than you.

704
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is I've never heard. Now, don't talk like no,

705
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: I'm not, but I'm not lying. I wasn't nearly the athlete.

706
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: I take that back. I was the athlete, but not

707
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 2: straight football. You know. I had other things that I

708
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: could do really well. But at the football player he

709
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: is way farther than I was. Like, Travis came in

710
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: ready to take the opposing team's best receiver right now,

711
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: right now, He's already ready for that. He's he's a

712
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 2: dog man. He going there on the practic, just still

713
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: to take our best receiver. Let's do this, and he

714
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 2: ain't playing, and you, if you mess around to catch one,

715
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 2: let's do it again. So that's how Travis gets down

716
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 2: and he mentally and he wants to learn. He'll grab me, coach,

717
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: come over here, just watch me and seven. So I said, no,

718
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 2: I can't just stand on the side and watch you

719
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: the whole time. I got to watch the whole team,

720
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: which is watching for a few players. I mean, that's

721
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: the way he wants to be great, and I love

722
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 2: that about it. And he ain't no joke out there

723
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: on the grass man.

724
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: So he obviously has projections to be a pro.

725
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: But the thing about it, you're right, but on both sides,

726
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: he's Travis is just as good a receiver as he

727
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: is a DV. That's what I'm saying. He is unbelievable.

728
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: He gets that ball. Man, that ball is a magnet

729
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: for him. Man, he the kid is a freak.

730
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Speaker 3: But that's one of the amazing things about you is

731
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Speaker 3: that you really could do everything like you know, as

732
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Speaker 3: far as special teams, why either corner back, we ain't

733
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: talking about baseball. That's a hold up a conversation. But

734
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Speaker 3: that's that's not a track and fields as well. Yeah,

735
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Speaker 3: so that's not easy to do it today. You don't

736
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Speaker 3: see too many people doing that today's game.

737
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Speaker 2: But they do talk the kids out of it, because

738
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: now you got this coach was getting handsomely paid by

739
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Speaker 2: this high school or the seven on seven team or

740
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: this AAU team. That's telling that kid, hey, you need

741
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Speaker 2: to just focused on this boyd and you go all

742
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Speaker 2: the way. No, man, why because you just focused on that,

743
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Speaker 2: you ain't go all the way?

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Speaker 4: Let the kids what we did.

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Speaker 2: We played everything back in the day. Right now everything

746
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: is singular hyper focus. Yes, it's singular. You that's not

747
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Speaker 2: fair to the kid. You gotta let a kid be

748
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Speaker 2: a kid. I remember as soon as we lost in

749
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Speaker 2: the playoffs in basketball, the next day, I'm leading off,

750
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Speaker 2: you know, soon as football was over, let's jump wet.

751
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Speaker 2: The next day. I mean we lost on the fry

752
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Speaker 2: and I was hoping we played this saty. So that's

753
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Speaker 2: just how it was, man. So nowadays is.

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Speaker 4: Football, football, football, football, basketball, bat.

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Speaker 2: Is all year around, sports all year round. Now they're

756
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Speaker 2: not just seasonal.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. As far as the conference is,

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Speaker 3: That makes absolutely no sense when conferences like schools on

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Speaker 3: the West Coast in the Big East and Big Ten

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Speaker 3: has thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Schools, they getting paid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I say that to say it's all. It's

813
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: all everything is derived around football and the conferences is

814
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 3: just going crazy.

815
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: No, they ain't they going money. They all business going.

816
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: So I say that to say, is there ever any

817
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: way possible that you foresee Jackson State being in a

818
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 3: power conference at some point?

819
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: Tom, I would like to see that when we're ready.

820
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: We gotta be ready now when you when you start

821
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: jumping conferences, and I don't want to just jump to

822
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: the baby conference. If I'm gonna jump, let's bunge a

823
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 2: jump let's do the dog on thing. Okay, so I

824
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: gotta get the traviss I gotta get Travis's there too. Okay,

825
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: up front on both sides, offensive defensive line with some depth,

826
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Speaker 2: because that's how the big boys should get you. Now.

827
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: They can't mess with you in a skill position because

828
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: we had a quarterback that could spend it. We got

829
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: receivers that could go, dbs that could go, linebackers that

830
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: could bang and cover. Where they get you is right

831
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: here in the trenches. Because now when they rotate, they rotate,

832
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: and you they got eight heat seeking missiles coming and

833
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: you may have four, so soon or later you're gonna

834
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: wear down. So you got to beef that up if

835
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Speaker 2: you want to compete with the big boys.

836
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: But you you would like that.

837
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Speaker 2: I want that.

838
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 4: I meant what conference.

839
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: I know, it don't matter. Somebody a conference that is

840
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: gonna make sure that we don't have a struggle no more,

841
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: because everything is a struggle. Everything is not enough, everything

842
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: is less than. Everything is like thereof it's gonna be

843
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: a conference that can put the whole school on that

844
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Speaker 2: we straight.

845
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Speaker 5: I SEC would be big, it could be big twelve two.

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Speaker 5: I mean facing that you see it's like this the biggest.

847
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 5: This is the biggest.

848
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Speaker 2: When you start talking like that, you got to answer

849
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: to the house. So that was so you you got stadiums,

850
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: you gotta have facilities.

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00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, ain't nobody, Come on, man, I want to get

852
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Speaker 4: to if I want to talk.

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Speaker 5: Coming here like this, you said playing the big boys,

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00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 5: And I know one of the things you touched on

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Speaker 5: recently was the money games, true and the disperries and

856
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 5: that can can you elaborate and explain to people because

857
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 5: when we see a uh, let's pick a pick up

858
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Speaker 5: a random school.

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Speaker 2: Uh, let's say you guys play Alabama. No, you just

860
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: saw Alabama State right out there against u c l A. Right, Okay,

861
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,959
Speaker 2: big dog, I don't mind that, but tell the kids

862
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: what it is. I'm playing for money. I'm playing so

863
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: that we could pay for this, pay for it. Don't

864
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: like you got a chance because you know you don't.

865
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Speaker 2: And then if you playing for money, do real business.

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Speaker 2: So you getting five hundred thousand, five hundred ninety thousand

867
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Speaker 2: whatever was reported what you called and check and see

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00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: how much as charter flight is two charters because you

869
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: got one for the team and one for the band. Okay,

870
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: going that California. Now you've got hotels and all that,

871
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: all those accommodations, and probably two nights of food and

872
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: all that. That's probably six meals. That's gonna be an

873
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: upward of seven hundred, eight hundred to a million, But

874
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: you're getting five ninety. So you took a l and

875
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 2: took a l going and getting beat done. Literally.

876
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, So to me.

877
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: If I put my kids in a situation where there's

878
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 2: no win and this is detrimental to their health, I'm

879
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: selling them out. We were big on that terminology in

880
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: African Americans. I'm putting you in a situation where I

881
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: know you're not gonna win, and I'm not even getting

882
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: handsomely compensated for it. That's a problem. But you have

883
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: the same situation when another school goes to Nebraska and

884
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: play and they get one point four one point seven.

885
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: Another school goes to Penn State and go to one

886
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: of these other schools and they get one point five

887
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: or they get one point three. They're doing better business

888
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: to me in the value not in the school that

889
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: could beat me. It's in the school that I'm gonna

890
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: beat because I really just played a setup game just

891
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: to beat you. Right, If I'm paying you. They mean

892
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 2: I need to whoop you. Right, when a boxer pays

893
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: another boxer, they paying him to what whoop it. It

894
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: may whether they be gonna pay you if his purse

895
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: is a twenty million and he paying you fifteen millions.

896
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: But no, no, he's gonna pay you significantly less because

897
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 2: he knows he gonna whoop you. It don't make sense

898
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: to me. Man, the numbers just don't add up to me.

899
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: That's a problem for me.

900
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 4: So who negotiates that from the city has to be

901
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 4: It has to be the ad.

902
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: Ad does it?

903
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, because I remember when I used to play basketball,

904
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 3: and I remember we used to see like Copping State.

905
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 3: They used to always the first fifteen games was on

906
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: the road. They play Ohio State, Michigan.

907
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: Beat down pockets fat though he start to seize it off,

908
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: like and ten over twelve.

909
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 5: So say the SEC has that one week every year,

910
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 5: they're like, this is Cupcake City.

911
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 4: Why are you playing UCL moro?

912
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 2: Because it's to pay a game for them, right, yeah,

913
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: but you got to make sure you get compensated enough.

914
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: It's not worth my kids getting hurt. Then I gotta

915
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: go and talk them. You know what, we could do

916
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: it next week. I know what happened last and I'm

917
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: sorry about that. We had to go get the bag.

918
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: That's what the conversation should be. We had to go

919
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: get the bag. Guess what we could do it this week.

920
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: We could beat them. But I can't do it. I

921
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 2: can't say. I'm a kids.

922
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 4: Let's what I'm saying.

923
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 5: Even when you get the bag, it's still coming back

924
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 5: to the school, not necessarily their their program.

925
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 2: And you ain't even bringing enough back because you got

926
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: to make it back home, right and you didn't even

927
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 2: get enough to even make it back home with a bag.

928
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 3: And at some point a conversation has to have. It

929
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: has to be had about funding for these schools, especially

930
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: the state schools, because it's like why a lot of

931
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: Ohio states and state school like Florida states and state

932
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: school but why the black state schools never get any money.

933
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: Enrollment. You gotta talk about enrollment. And we got to

934
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: quit stop accepting whatever they give us. They can't just

935
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: throw no money at you. You say, oh, thank you,

936
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: No man, stop accepting the foolishness that they give you.

937
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 2: If you accept peanuts, they gonna thank your money sooner later.

938
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: You got to stop dancing clapping for for a little

939
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: dams they're throwing in your plate. You got to demand

940
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: we deserve more. And this is why, and it's documented.

941
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 5: So one of the things you talked about, obviously is

942
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,479
Speaker 5: the facilities. If we're gonna grow and win, win in comes.

943
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 5: Success becomes more money. I know, even like here, when

944
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 5: you came here, this women were sitting there did not exist.

945
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: No, I didn't, right, So these are practice field did

946
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: not exist, God not exist. None of this existed. And

947
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: we're thankful that we have an a d that that

948
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: knows how to fight. And we partner and we communicate

949
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: and we articulate to one another the needs and the

950
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 2: thoughts and the process of getting them. And then I

951
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: got partners right who helped.

952
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 5: And one of the things that kind of got glossed

953
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 5: over was like even when this wasn't ready, Coase Props said, look,

954
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 5: take half of whatever I'm making.

955
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 4: Make it happen. Yeah, I had to finish, get it done.

956
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: I had to get it done because I'm gonna I

957
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: get tired of telling people this, this, this, this this

958
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 2: soon as you just maybe not do it, I'm gonna

959
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: only tell you to cut the grass three times. Okay,

960
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: after that, I'm gonna do it. Okay, So I'm not

961
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 2: gonna sit up here and just cry, cry, cry. I'm

962
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: gonna give you opportunity to do what you've been handsomely

963
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: paid to do your job. Then again, I'm gonna do it.

964
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 3: So you've become the most recognizable person in the state

965
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: of Mississippi, and I don't even think it's closed, probably

966
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: by lands. So with that, I'm assuming there's a lot

967
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 3: on your plate that you probably necessarily didn't sign up for.

968
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 3: So we just had.

969
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that. No, everything that that's on

970
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: my plate, I've been through the process at the youth level,

971
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: at the high school level, or at some level. God

972
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: is taking me through it in the dark. So when

973
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: you hit the lights, I was ready.

974
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 3: So let's talk about the water crisis, just if you

975
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: could educate us, because I mean, we see stuff on

976
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 3: social media. But then we got here. Last night we

977
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 3: went in a hotel. It seemed like it's okay, we're here,

978
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: that still school going on. So is it over? How

979
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 3: bad it is, it's not.

980
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: I don't feel like it's over. I don't think it's over.

981
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: There was no water pressure. We didn't have bathrooms and

982
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: didn't have toilets. The kids can take showers. So that

983
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: turned the air off. They turned the arrows off and

984
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: all the buildings and shut down the school. You can

985
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 2: shut down the school when kids are in dorms. So

986
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: you gotta get the kids out of dorms and take

987
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: them to a hotel. And that's when my skill set

988
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: of being proactive helps instead of reactive. Okay, now when

989
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: this comes along, here we go, let's go. This is

990
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: what we gotta do. This the ship we get ready

991
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: to go play fam you in Florida. I tell you what.

992
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: Take the kids to the hotels, do this that We're

993
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: gonna feed them right here. We're gonna do this right here.

994
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna change this here and we'll bust over. We'll

995
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 2: practice here and we're good. We'll go back so they

996
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 2: can shower here. And then we're gonna get leave from

997
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: that hotel and going to Miami. Because we leave on

998
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: the Thursday, and this hit us on a on a Tuesday,

999
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: so we good. Now why we kick it butt? I

1000
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: ain't even the night before. Hey, we're gonna kick the butts.

1001
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 2: Where my kids going when we get back. So you

1002
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 2: gotta afford think about that. Uh, I have that notice

1003
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: to you the morning of the game. So eleven o'clock. Hey,

1004
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 2: when my kid's going when we get back. Oh, we

1005
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: already got them straight at this hotel. They'll stay there

1006
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: to all this stuff. It's lift cool. We straight Let's

1007
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: go because there's always about the kids, and I got

1008
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 2: to make sure they're straight.

1009
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 3: How has the community, how's the community doing?

1010
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 2: Jackson is resilient, man. Jackson is some some some tough people.

1011
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: Some it's some weightmakers, man, it's it's some prayer warriors.

1012
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 2: It's some good folks in Jackson that all they need

1013
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: is hope. And thank God, that's what we're instilling in

1014
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: them through our play because we give them hope. Because

1015
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: you see, Jackson, Man, this is the state capitol, State's capital,

1016
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 2: and we having crises in the state's capital. We having

1017
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: the foolishness in the states capitol. You see the roads

1018
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 2: in the streets when you it's like you know, dren

1019
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: in the state's capitol. It shouldn't be like that, but

1020
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: it is. But they in crime they saying, you know what,

1021
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: let's proceed. We're gonna perceive with caution, but we're gonna proceed.

1022
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 2: And that's how the city of Jackson is there, resilient,

1023
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: and I appreciate them for that, and they're thankful and

1024
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 2: appreciative bunch of people. I can't go anywhere in town

1025
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: with doubt. White, black, Hispanic agent with a coach brown.

1026
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you

1027
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: for just what we're doing here, not what I'm doing,

1028
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: but what we're doing here because we instilled hope, and

1029
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: we instill that a you can make it, you can

1030
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 2: make it. Just hold on. Yeah.

1031
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 5: I think the economic impact of you being here in

1032
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 5: twenty and twenty one was I think nineteen million dollars

1033
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 5: brought to the city thirty I was gonna get to

1034
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 5: this year when they have it estimated over thirty.

1035
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: You got at least tipples, though it wasn't no tip

1036
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 2: when the waitress service is good food, when a waitress

1037
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: serve you don't just want to tip commic. It wasn't

1038
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: no tip, common Curtis, give me a tip. At least

1039
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 2: here's the program. A tip.

1040
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 4: Least over there asking for much.

1041
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: I mean, nobody sit down with me and talk about this.

1042
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 2: You know you brought charity mean into the city. Yes's

1043
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: tip us was ten. Let's going there.

1044
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 5: But okay, yeah, I mean that's a that's a lot, right,

1045
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 5: that's a lot for true for I mean a program

1046
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 5: which obviously you were the cornerstone, are coming here.

1047
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 2: And having that impact.

1048
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 5: I wonder how much say or even do they come

1049
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 5: to you and say, what can we improve campus.

1050
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 2: I just met with them a few weeks ago and

1051
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: I said, look, it's something we should be able to

1052
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 2: do together because we're bringing you true economics, and you

1053
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 2: know we are, So let's get together and figure out

1054
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: how we can help one another. So if we brought

1055
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: you thirty million and we didn't even communicate, we may

1056
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: be able to bring you forty five. And we ever

1057
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: sat down and talk and discuss business and help people

1058
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: understand what Jackson is, what Jackson had, and what Jackson occupies,

1059
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: and and promote some but the hotels, the restaurants, some

1060
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 2: of the businesses and Jackson. We could do all that

1061
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: if we just communicate. Let's just do that. So that's

1062
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: what we are. And I was supposed to have a

1063
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: meeting this week about that. We just want to see

1064
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: let us all.

1065
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, as far as being a

1066
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: leader of young men, how has that been, because obviously

1067
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 3: it's not easy dealing with You know, high school is

1068
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 3: one thing, but college is a whole different animal. As

1069
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 3: far as you know, kids is living on their own

1070
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: for the first time. It's all kinds of influences. You got, girls,

1071
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 3: you got, and now you know, they're getting social media recognition,

1072
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: they're meeting celebrities. So how has that been as far

1073
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: as dealing with them young men?

1074
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: Let me answer the question first. You said being a

1075
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 2: leader of young men, it's hard to be a leader

1076
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: of young men when you haven't been a leader of

1077
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 2: older men. I've been a leader of men, so being

1078
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: the leader of young men is just another level. And

1079
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 2: I'm truly prepared because I'm a real daddy. I'm a

1080
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: real father, and I take bothering serious. So when I'm

1081
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: looking at these young men, I'm sitting up here in shadors.

1082
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 2: There shallows there sometimes and sometimes he ain't. That was

1083
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 2: some truth that just fit right. But I try to

1084
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 2: get to know them at some point in time personally,

1085
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 2: so I know what I'm up against and how to communicate.

1086
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: I may can't yell at him, but I can yell

1087
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: at him because he needs it, because he grew up

1088
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: in a single mother home, single parent home, and mother

1089
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 2: and baby him all day, and he needs to hear

1090
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 2: a man's voice. He don't really need to be scolded

1091
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: and got on because he come from a dude parent home.

1092
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 2: All he need is direction. Okay, this one right here,

1093
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 2: it is late and tardy. He needs structure. So I

1094
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: got to make sure he stays within the guidelines of

1095
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 2: everything him. I got to punish him here and there

1096
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: to make sure he understands you can't get away with

1097
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 2: the foolishness. Either you gonna be a part of this

1098
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: or you're gonna be out the door. It's so many

1099
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: different nuances in here, and the coaches do a wonderful

1100
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: job of understanding all these. All we act is smart, tough, fast,

1101
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: discipline with character. Smart tough, fast, disciplined with character. And

1102
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: the fast ain't got nothing to do with running is

1103
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: to retain things fast when you get hurt, healed fast.

1104
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: When when we brought up a play, okay, react, read

1105
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: and react fast. And you know, being smart on the

1106
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: field off the feel tough, physical and mental toughness. You

1107
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: know you can't sit up there and blame everything on

1108
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 2: mental health. Because I didn't hear you blaming mental health

1109
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 2: when you was going touchdowns, but when that thing took

1110
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: a left and people want to clap it in chair,

1111
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: now you're gonna wave the mental health flag. I'm a

1112
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: ride with you, and I'm gonna get your help. But

1113
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit there and look at you say now, now,

1114
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: I want you to be the same when you up

1115
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: and when you down. I need the same guy with

1116
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: that same spirit, that same intensity, that same passion for everything.

1117
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: So I love this ain't worked for me, man. I

1118
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: get here probably full forty full forty five every morning

1119
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 2: and it ain't nobody here, and I'm ready go over

1120
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: there and get my work out in, come back, go

1121
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 2: over them a note and prepare myself for the morning

1122
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: message that we have with the kids. And I can't

1123
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: wait till they ready. So I walk in. The meeting

1124
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: starts at seven fifteen. That means I'm starting at seven

1125
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: oh five or seven oh eight seventeen at the latest,

1126
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 2: because I'm teaching them how to be early, how to

1127
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: be prepared.

1128
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 3: If you're on late, There you go, Toti, there you go.

1129
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 3: I said, valuable lesson in life.

1130
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 5: I saw the character building and obviously on your Instagram.

1131
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 5: You have the no slides rule and making sure that

1132
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 5: everybody there's no tank tops if you're a part of it.

1133
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 5: The lastly, we need to somebody speaking on the character

1134
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 5: of the players out of here. So you're building not

1135
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 5: just athletes, but your building for the future. So you

1136
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 5: got Travis and then you have Captain Coleman as well

1137
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 5: top you know, the five star recruit. Do you feel

1138
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 5: like the power fives are starting to feel threatened about

1139
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 5: what you're doing.

1140
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: No, they're not threatning yet. They threatening, but they know me.

1141
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 2: You you don't have to be a threat, but you

1142
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: being known it's enough. It's like, okay, you know it's

1143
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 2: like he over there. Yeah, it's him, he over there.

1144
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: Ye'll better keep it one on that. I'm not threatening,

1145
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: but they got it out there. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

1146
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. They said sixty five seventy

1147
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 3: percent of NFL athletes go bankrupt five years after they

1148
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 3: are done playing. Uh, disturbing statistic. That ain't just in

1149
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 3: the veil now well as the NBA. I think he's

1150
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 3: a little bit lower, but the NFL is a little

1151
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 3: bit higher because your shorter careers, they make less money. Yeah,

1152
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 3: how important is it for financial literacy for your kids?

1153
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: Very much so, and we try to incorporate everything. Matter

1154
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 2: of fact, I have several kids on the team right

1155
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 2: now that are fathers, but their kids that are fathers

1156
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: of kids. That disturbs me because I know how tough

1157
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: it is to be a real daddy. I don't want

1158
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: them to be a baby daddy. I want them to

1159
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: be a father. So not only financial literacy, but understanding

1160
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: how to be a man. It's a whole another level.

1161
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: Ninety of those kids to sit back there aren't going

1162
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: pro So my focus is not on that five because

1163
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: that five got it. My focus is on that ninety five.

1164
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 2: The Bible says train of a child and the way

1165
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: it should go when he's over here and never departed.

1166
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 2: I need to train them up and be the navigational

1167
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 2: system on where they should go.

1168
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 3: Was it difficult for you to become a millionaire at

1169
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 3: a young age? Is you make financial I was always.

1170
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: Cheap manill, but I made some mistakes, definitely, so you know,

1171
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 2: see it get it wanted. I made some mistakes, but

1172
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 2: I was blessed because I had two jobs and endorsements.

1173
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: So when Tom Dick and Harry was trying to keep

1174
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 2: up with prime mean, no, I was I could bank

1175
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: all the football and bank all of baseball and spend

1176
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: all endorsements. That's not how I went down. But I've

1177
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 2: made some valued, viable mistakes. But real estate has always

1178
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: been good to me and got me back in the game.

1179
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 2: So I'm a land freak. I love land. I love

1180
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: real estate.

1181
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 5: Oh so, is there an area of the country or

1182
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 5: maybe internationally that you're like, all right, this is my focus,

1183
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 5: this is my hope for real estate.

1184
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: No, I mean homes in land, Like I've always lived

1185
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 2: on one hundreds of acres and able to flip it,

1186
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: you know, like after ten years of the decade. But

1187
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 2: now I feel like I found out where I want

1188
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: to live and that's it. But I got that property

1189
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 2: several places. I'm good. I'm straight.

1190
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 3: So I heard you say something that was interesting to

1191
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 3: me because I always knew that you didn't drink or smoke,

1192
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 3: But what I didn't know You said, like, you're more

1193
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 3: of an introverted person, like you don't gonna like to

1194
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 3: be around, which is interesting because your hope her Souna's

1195
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 3: prime Time and dance and flash to chains all of that.

1196
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 3: So I was surprised to hear you say that, but

1197
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 3: you articulated it very well when I heard you spoke

1198
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 3: about that. So can you talk about that as far?

1199
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 3: I think you said something like the Prime Time was

1200
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 3: more like a carrier.

1201
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a switch. When I see cameras, I can

1202
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 2: hit a switch. And I know how to entertain, I

1203
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 2: know how to inform. But when you're gone, Sam will

1204
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: tell you, I'm gonna go into office and seclude myself

1205
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 2: and engulf myself in trying to be dominant in what

1206
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 2: we do. And I'd rather not be in a crowd.

1207
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: I don't I don't mind playing in front of crowds,

1208
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna go into a crowd. I'm never

1209
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: gonna do that, like knowingly and selfishly. I'm not that

1210
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 2: kind of person. I'm never gonna be the loudest guy

1211
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 2: in the room. I'm not that kind of person. I'm

1212
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 2: never gonna sit there and articulate about my whole life

1213
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 2: unlesson being interviewed, because that ain't me. The only time

1214
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: I raised my voice is when I'm out there on

1215
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: the field. So there's d On this Prime. Prime you

1216
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 2: know commands checks. Yeah, d On makes sure Prime is

1217
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: on his job and make sure he's balance. They both

1218
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 2: need it.

1219
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1220
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 5: You talked about the power of relationships, and you spoke

1221
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 5: about some people who have come to the school obviously uh,

1222
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 5: former NFL players, but you also start to bring in

1223
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 5: NFL coaches. Yes, so can you talk about the importance

1224
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 5: of that, because that when you have that type of

1225
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 5: character and you have that type of mindset, it, you know,

1226
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 5: it spills down to the players. Now they're coach at

1227
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 5: an NFL level, whereas they didn't have.

1228
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 4: To go to big school to do it. They can

1229
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 4: come right here and do point.

1230
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 2: That was tremendous for me when I comprised a staff.

1231
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 2: You got to understand, Now you take a par of

1232
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: five job, it's a totally different game because your staff

1233
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 2: has to be at a certain level. You take an

1234
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: HBCU job, it's another thing. Not only your staff have

1235
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 2: to be at a certain level, they got to be

1236
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: relatable to these kids. So when I'm able to go

1237
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 2: divide my staff up and say, okay, I got four

1238
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: guys from the NFL, I got a few guys from college,

1239
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: and I got a few high school guys, that's unbelievable

1240
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 2: because it's all relatable. We got guys coming out of

1241
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: high school going to college want to go to the NFL.

1242
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: So I got guys that can touch them in every

1243
01:04:55,240 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 2: aspect of life, and being able to sit them down

1244
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 2: down with a guy who has a plethora of years

1245
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 2: in the NFL to talk to them and say this

1246
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: is how it is. What coach is telling you is

1247
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 2: one hundred. You can't do that foolishness out there because

1248
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 2: they just gonna cut you and it's gonna be over.

1249
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 2: So having that knowledge and having the audacity to be

1250
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 2: able to call a guy one linebacker was talking junk

1251
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 2: about who he was, what he was. All right, let

1252
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: me ask ray Lewis okay, right? Can you tell this

1253
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: food what them? You know? It's like that. So when

1254
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 2: you have those type of relationships, and I've done that

1255
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: several times with some of my friends, just to show

1256
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 2: these guys and put them on the screen in the

1257
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: morning and let them see touch these guys with Michael

1258
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: Irvins and some of these guys that are phenomenal, like dang,

1259
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 2: you know that was Chad on your single. That was

1260
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 2: Michael Irban right there in the meeting room. You know,

1261
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: it's it's it's wonderful and those kids need that, man,

1262
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 2: They need to see that they can make it and

1263
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 2: see that person that made it.

1264
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 4: Chat ain't get by you yet right now. Oh yeah,

1265
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 4: they got a thing on.

1266
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 2: We got it on sight.

1267
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 3: Shout out to Chat. So you said something that was

1268
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 3: interested on social media. You said that the Hall of Fame,

1269
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 3: that should be a hall of fame like levels.

1270
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: To levels of everything.

1271
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the fact everything should be levels to.

1272
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 6: That because come on, just the one that this is

1273
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 6: gonna say, let me get my TV right, who is that?

1274
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: What? What?

1275
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: What? To me?

1276
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,959
Speaker 4: That's they just announced that the new nominees today.

1277
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: To me, a Hall of Famer growing up was a

1278
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: guy who changed the game, like Mal Blunt. Man was

1279
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 2: that dude for me? Like Mail Blunt changed the game.

1280
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 2: He was so valient and physical. They changed the whole

1281
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 2: contact rule down the field because he was teen yards

1282
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: down the field. You know, he was just just breaking

1283
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 2: them off. And certain guys just changed the game. Now

1284
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 2: it's guys that played the game then you had a

1285
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 2: few good years that that ain't right for me, man,

1286
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 2: that that's not what I grew up on. They unchanged

1287
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: the game. They've changed the Hall of Fame game.

1288
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 4: To me, you grew up with I mean I grew up.

1289
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 4: You played with game changes.

1290
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 2: I played to me. My era was Let me put

1291
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 2: this like, let me give you a argument when people

1292
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: talk about receivers, and I said, Okay, Jerry was in

1293
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 2: my era the greatest, the greatest. But who Jerry had

1294
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 2: thrown to him? Yeah, okay, so not only I had

1295
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: the cover the greatest, greatest was throwing to him. So

1296
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: in my era, mica Irwin was one of the greatest.

1297
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: Right who was throwing to him? Three Super Bowls? What

1298
01:07:53,160 --> 01:08:00,439
Speaker 2: he one of the greatest? Two? I mean, who keep going?

1299
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,959
Speaker 2: You keep going with the quarterbacks of marriage Jim Kelly,

1300
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: Who are at Andre Re? And who else?

1301
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 4: James Lost James Loften, Lofty Loft, we.

1302
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 2: Keep going all day. What I'm saying like, it wasn't

1303
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: just I'm covering the Hall of Famer, it's another one

1304
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 2: throwing it. Now, you're lucky to get one cat. You're

1305
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: not gonna get the quarterback and the receiver. It's gonna

1306
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 2: be one. It was a different it was a different era.

1307
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 5: It was a difficult error. Okay, go ahead, say what

1308
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 5: you're gonna say. I'm thinking I'm thinking of quarterback receiver

1309
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 5: combos that could end up in the Hall of Fame

1310
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 5: right now, that could from this past decade. I think

1311
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 5: Rothlisberger and ab could go this based on stats, based

1312
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 5: on stats for the first.

1313
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 4: No good with ad Oh, but I mean you know

1314
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 4: then that he's not whole. I think he is the

1315
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 4: chips too in my ara.

1316
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 2: Whole.

1317
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, he won one to Jim Kelly.

1318
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 3: That's a fact. That's a fact, and it ain't It

1319
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 3: ain't just.

1320
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 2: He didn't win the team, thank you. When Jim Kelly

1321
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 2: was Jim Kelly, Jim Kelly was Jim Kelly. Teams get wins. No,

1322
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 2: Jim Kelly was that they had something man to shoot.

1323
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 4: It's tough. I'm not taking anything away fro jail.

1324
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: They had tough that that that offense, the way they

1325
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 2: ran that thing, man, please, they put everybody on notice

1326
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,799
Speaker 2: in the secondary. Everybody's gonna get it, all right, Rogers

1327
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 2: and and Adams debt. They're not together no more dog,

1328
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 2: but they were. I'm saying from this this past new

1329
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 2: addition was together one time, but going together.

1330
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 4: It was is Bobby going the boat and uh what

1331
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 4: I ate every dight.

1332
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 2: Who was that the big one? That the big one

1333
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 2: that I ate every dance. I can't even recognize you

1334
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: the right to Johnny that was that was recognized Johnny.

1335
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:11,480
Speaker 2: I probably got Johnny my Man.

1336
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to say I got a better one,

1337
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne.

1338
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: Yes, these are Hall of famous. That was in my era.

1339
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 3: That was ten years ago.

1340
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 4: That was Payton, the Marbles in a yea later later later.

1341
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just started.

1342
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's like your Ravens years though, No, they was.

1343
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 2: They was in the mid Cowboy years.

1344
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 3: And then also what happened after you left is that

1345
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 3: the league became a wide receivers league, and all of

1346
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 3: these wide receivers became the face of the league and

1347
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 3: they started becoming it's always.

1348
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: A quarterbacks quarterback. Yeah, but they still don't have the

1349
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 2: like if you went back. They don't have the numbers.

1350
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 2: They don't have the numbers. The wide receivers they don't

1351
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 2: have the numbers. They're good, but they don't have numbers.

1352
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 4: That's why I said they that because he has the numbers.

1353
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: I promise you, I'm gonna tell you someth heb is

1354
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 2: my dog. Y'all know how I feel about it. It

1355
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 2: would be all hell broke loose. If they let being all,

1356
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 2: I would go. I ain't been back since I would

1357
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 2: go just.

1358
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 3: To see that one that's gonna be gonna dance.

1359
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 2: He'd be probably cut the butt, nuggad.

1360
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 3: It's a chance.

1361
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 4: So if if we if we make it levels, what

1362
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 4: what color jacket that we're gonna be there?

1363
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 2: It should be a bright red, bright red? Yep, who's

1364
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: in there with you?

1365
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 3: For the elite, for the leader?

1366
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 4: What you mean, who's in there? Who's winning the rad shoot.

1367
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 2: Games? You want to go position back position Tom Brady, definitely,

1368
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 2: you just want to go. That's one team like that, Yeah,

1369
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: one team, let's go. Let's okay, one team. Let's go

1370
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: ride with Brady.

1371
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 4: Who's a running back?

1372
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 2: Running back? That that that's a that's a that's tough

1373
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 2: for that though, I tell you what to two backs,

1374
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 2: two backs, Jim Brown.

1375
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 3: Okay, interesting's whose other one?

1376
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 2: That's a tough one. That because I'll put Barry in there.

1377
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 3: Barry Santas was my favorite him and like Barry Sanders,

1378
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 3: they were just you know what, Barry never won and

1379
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 3: it's difficult to put him in that.

1380
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: It was a dog too though.

1381
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 3: Garry Santas, like Alan iverson football it was a dog too.

1382
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 5: You.

1383
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 4: I said, let's go the next position. Uh do we

1384
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 4: have to do full back? Let's do full back? All right,

1385
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 4: Wide receivers, Jerry Moss, Terry Moss, that's it.

1386
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: That's top too, that's it.

1387
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 4: Okay, uh skip the lines.

1388
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: Let's what you want to do.

1389
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 4: Defensive line.

1390
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: You don't know the offense lines to go ahead and.

1391
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 5: Offensive line will skipon off Who's who's who's the offensive

1392
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 5: line the best?

1393
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, Larry Allen was a killer. Let's just get

1394
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 2: this Cowboys.

1395
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 4: Barry Allen is crazy. Uhmos Cincinnati.

1396
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 2: That's like eighties guys, struggling.

1397
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 4: No, no, I'm just trying to put.

1398
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 2: A lineman.

1399
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 5: Don't get commercials defensive linement. Let's go defensive line health.

1400
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 5: That's where you started. Of course, he's a lot that's

1401
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 5: changed the game from linebacker to Russia Reggie White. Okay,

1402
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 5: we'll take those two. Yeah, you have two now.

1403
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 4: Inside all Aaron aright now.

1404
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 3: Already yeah, ever, yes, ever.

1405
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's tougher now. Yeah, but this this is

1406
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 2: a beast. That's tough.

1407
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 4: Now, he's a beast. What's that was the beast? That

1408
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 4: was a beast? And then he wasn't a beast for

1409
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 4: a little?

1410
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 2: What about what about? Yeah? Yeah, okay, okay, okay. Linebacker?

1411
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, ray Lewis, ray Lewis for sure? Who's the other.

1412
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 4: My favorite linebacker?

1413
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 2: You have the game? Game change it? You have to

1414
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 2: go old school?

1415
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 4: Are you gonna say buckets or segretary? What are you

1416
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 4: gonna say? I say buckets?

1417
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 2: Okay? All here we go. Quarterback, I mean outside of you?

1418
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 2: Was the other quarterback? You turned my back to have

1419
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: a vote for that? Who's the other quarterback? The other

1420
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 2: cornerback is uh Mail Blunt?

1421
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 4: What's that you said that? He said he's gonna say that? Yeah.

1422
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 2: I thought she's gonna say Rob Wilson. Rod was more

1423
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 2: of a safety to me. There you go, though you

1424
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 2: did your homework. Did your homework?

1425
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:22,759
Speaker 4: Okay?

1426
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 2: Even though you've never seen him play? But you did?

1427
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: Did you know? So?

1428
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 4: Then we get safety? Can I get too free?

1429
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 2: Safety? Safety?

1430
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 5: You got to I'm gonna say the best that I've

1431
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 5: seen in my lifetime, Ronnie Lott, All right with you.

1432
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 5: I'm in the cup with your great guys, the punter, yes,

1433
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 5: special teams, Rick Devin Helster. I thought she was gonna

1434
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 5: say you, but I was gonna say that, how does

1435
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 5: Devin Helster not the first ballot whole fam.

1436
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: He's up there this year, it was the last year.

1437
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 2: Was the last year? That was the insult.

1438
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's definitely, that's what That's what really triggered me.

1439
01:14:58,479 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you ain't putting my.

1440
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 4: Boy in in tight end the best tight end Shark.

1441
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 4: It's not shanting Shark.

1442
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 2: It's not a he's a He's gonna say Grunk.

1443
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 4: I might have to say Gronk, but but.

1444
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 2: I think it would be Kelsey when it's all sitting there.

1445
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 2: The number of catches the game has changed.

1446
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 4: How many tight ends let the league in receiving yards?

1447
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean the quarterbacks throw that much. Now Yeah, Now

1448
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: I was in.

1449
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 4: The conversation, of course, Shannon Sharks.

1450
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you gotta understand, see Gunk era, this is

1451
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 2: how Grady was. Brady's era. They always won, say, they

1452
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: were always up Therefore they didn't have to throw at

1453
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 2: the conclusion of the game. It wasn't tight. He was

1454
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 2: already winning, so he didn't wrack up.

1455
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 4: His numbers and he got hurt.

1456
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, think about that. See a lot of guys that

1457
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 2: catch a lot of balls they losing too. Now, and

1458
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: they have to throw throw, throw, and they getting any receptions.

1459
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,799
Speaker 4: You know, the two thousand yard Russia.

1460
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 2: If you want to see a great corner, watch you

1461
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 2: guy on a bad team, a great corner. M hmm.

1462
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 2: Watch him on a bad team. Watch the cornerbacks on

1463
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 2: a bad team where you're getting your butt shell act.

1464
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 2: If you get your numbers on a bad team, you're

1465
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 2: doing so.

1466
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 5: I'm a Washington guy. So Daryl Gan there was a

1467
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 5: bad boy. He was a good one. He's short, but

1468
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 5: he was great.

1469
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 4: Champ Bailly, another Washington champs, went to Denvil.

1470
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 5: He's up for the he's up for the for the

1471
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame right now already he said, no, I'm sorry.

1472
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 2: Throughout Reeves is up. Yeah, Reavers first ball, this is

1473
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 2: his yea.

1474
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 3: So we have Tom Brady has a quarterback that's sure,

1475
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 3: Tom or Joe, Tom or Joe.

1476
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling this. Out of those.

1477
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 4: We got a team. We got the all the all

1478
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 4: UYL team right there.

1479
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,560
Speaker 2: Yes, I got you.

1480
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 3: Well, prime before before we wrap it up, what's your

1481
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 3: what's your plan for Jackson State in the next you know,

1482
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 3: a couple of years, five years? How do you do

1483
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 3: you what's your I don't I don't do that. You

1484
01:16:59,080 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 3: don't do that.

1485
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do dominate today and when I get tomorrow,

1486
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 2: i'mnna dominate that. I don't do that personally, life cool,

1487
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 2: but not for Jackson Adams do that. I gotta stay

1488
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,839
Speaker 2: right here and laser focus. Man. I'm trying to dominate

1489
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 2: for the rest of the day. Then I'm gonna get

1490
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 2: up and do it again tomorrow.

1491
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott, he's in Mississippi, went to Mississippi State.

1492
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 5: He's a man there. Yeah, and now he's the America's team,

1493
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 5: so it's not America's team.

1494
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 2: Man. My old boss Jerry Jones is the best marketer ever.

1495
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 2: He came up with this. He's the only man that

1496
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 2: could get you to believe that his team is gonna

1497
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 2: win the championship every year and they never do. I

1498
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 2: love him for that.

1499
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 4: Were you on the last seam knowing yes, ninety wow,

1500
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 4: it's been a minute, right.

1501
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 5: That hurt me when you went over there by the way,

1502
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 5: we don't want nowhere when you went Dallas, Yeah, business,

1503
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 5: I never was.

1504
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,560
Speaker 2: I just was, I know, but he never offered me.

1505
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,600
Speaker 2: They never told you that. They never offered me. You know.

1506
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 2: I found out I was playing for the Giants. And

1507
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 2: I was in this restaurant and it was a preseason

1508
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 2: and I seen this little white kid. Man, I think

1509
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 2: he's catching punts of some with twenty one on. That's

1510
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: I called my agent. I guess we ain't going back down. Huh.

1511
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 2: That's how I found out straight up, that's crazy.

1512
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 3: You're the only player that's ever played in a World

1513
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 3: Series and Super Bowl.

1514
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 2: True that I believe. I don't think it ever happened. Again,

1515
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 2: they won't even allow it.

1516
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna ask you because you and both

1517
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 3: Jackson the only people that's actually in my knowledge have

1518
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 3: done that successfully for football.

1519
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 2: And Brian Jordan. Had Brian Jordan, he was my teammate

1520
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 2: and he would have been an All Pro. And had

1521
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 2: he continued playing football, damn forgot about him. He was

1522
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 2: a dog.

1523
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 3: Do you think that you maximize your baseball career or.

1524
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 2: Do you know? No, I left it on the table.

1525
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 2: I have baseball dreams all the time.

1526
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 3: You think you could have done more.

1527
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: Man, When I have dreams all the time, I only

1528
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 2: have dreams of things that were incomplete. I don't have

1529
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 2: dreams of things that were complete. So I dreamed about

1530
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 2: baseball all the time. You were a great Yankee.

1531
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 5: That was all right Yankee. I'm talking a good brave

1532
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 5: or good red, but never great his So you played

1533
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 5: for Stop Runner and he played for Jerry Jones. Yep,

1534
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 5: both of them were unbelieva owners. Changed the game, both changed. Yes,

1535
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 5: game changes.

1536
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would have actually played baseball seniorly. George Steinberg

1537
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: offered ment deal, and that they pulled. He got into

1538
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,759
Speaker 2: some junk and they pulled it back off the table.

1539
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 2: But I was going to accept it to play baseball full.

1540
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 3: Time and not play football.

1541
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 2: Football wouldn't have been the priority baseball with him, So

1542
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 2: I probably would have caught the backside of football last

1543
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 2: several games, which was cool. I did that several years anyway,

1544
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 2: just didn't seem like it, but I did.

1545
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, because that season is over October October, and that's

1546
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 5: probably like week four.

1547
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 3: So you think that will never happen again?

1548
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 2: Baseball on football they won't allow it because they don't

1549
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 2: let the kids play dual sports anymore. Yeah, I wish

1550
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 2: it would, man. I appreciate you all to though.

1551
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1552
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