1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. I'm your host 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Claude Harmon. This week's guest Ashley boo High, the two 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: Women's British Open champion. It's her first major and UM, 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: what a cool story. Um, just I watched she she 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: wins in a playoff. The playoff goes, you know, four holes. 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: She's going up against a major champion, one of the 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: best players in the world, and UM, just what a story. 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: What a what a life changing event, UM, life change 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: event from winning a major, which she talks about too, 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: the prize of of winning a million dollars which is 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: life changing for her. Um. And it was just it 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: was a really really fun tournament to watch on a 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: great golf course. Um, your field, And UM, I think 14 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: it was a really really good performance. And UM, if 15 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: you don't know about Ashley, that's why I wanted to 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: get her on the podcast, because, UM, I'm a fan 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: and I watched that playoff and and afterwards I was 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: really really impressed. UM. I want to thank everybody for 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: listening to the first episode Son of a Buch last 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: week with my dad butch Arm and if you haven't 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: checked it out, check it out. Lots of stuff to 22 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: talk about from that, But I'm really excited for everybody 23 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: to hear Ashley Blue High and for everyone to hear 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: her story and her journey to becoming a major champion. 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: So my guest is the twenty twenty two Women's British 26 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: Open champion, Ashley you High. I hope I got that right. Yeah, 27 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: it's all good. Um, I mean your week out from winning, 28 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure the last week has been somewhat of a 29 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: world wind. Um. I've been lucky enough to be worked 30 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: with players that have one major championships. I don't think 31 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: the fans realize that. Um, not only how much winning 32 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: one of those from aly takes so much out of you, 33 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: but also all of the stuff that goes along with 34 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: winning one. Obviously great problems to have, but um, it 35 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: still takes a lot of hard a lot of work. Yeah, 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: I'm sure it does. Um, you know, a lot of 37 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: time management. I think that's going to be something I'm 38 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: going to have to learn to do a little bit better. Um. 39 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: There might be a few more things asked to me 40 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: when I get to tournaments. But you know, it's been 41 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: a very busy week or so. There's a lot of 42 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: press out of South Africa and with the six hour 43 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: time change, I was waking up early to do those 44 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: interviews and then had interviews locally here in the US. 45 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: So but like you said, it's all good problems to have. 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean, are you still kind of pinsion yourself that 47 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: for the rest of your life you will be called 48 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: a major champion? Yeah, definitely. Um, you know when I 49 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: think about that, and you know I said to mys 50 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: when the cool thing is, nobody can ever take that 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: away from you. So to be called a major champion, 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: it's it's a dream come true. I mean's and there 53 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: are there are golf courses that you win majors on, 54 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: and then there are golf courses that you win majors on. 55 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: Gary Player in nine, Ernie Els in two thousand, soil 56 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: I was there in two thousand and two and Ernie one. 57 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: The weather was Atrocis on the on the Saturday. But 58 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: it's almost like those two kind of trailblazers for South 59 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: African golf. For you to win another major chance or 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: win a major championship your first at a venue where 61 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: two of the icons of South African golf have one 62 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: before that, I mean, it's almost like there are times 63 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: where things line up and it's like lined up for you. Yeah, 64 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: they definitely odd times like that, you know, Like I said, 65 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: they were my idols growing up, and you know, it 66 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: was huge for us for the first time to be 67 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: able to go to Murfield the women's game, and for 68 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: me to be the first female winner it and again 69 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: alongside Gary and Ernie. There were a lot of things 70 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: when I look back now that you know, sometimes it's 71 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: a little aerie or however you want to look at. 72 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: That's may be. It was just meant to be my week, 73 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's it's important to to say 74 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: that was it. Two thousand seventeen was the first time 75 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: that they allowed I think it was two thousand seven 76 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: and the first time they started to allow women to 77 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: be members at Merefield. It was it was a staunchly, 78 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: staunchly men only club, um where all of you um 79 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: that we're playing their conscious to the fact that this 80 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: was obviously a major championship venue for the guys, but 81 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: for the for the ladies to be there for the 82 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: first time and to be the one that won the 83 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: first one as a woman there that that that's also 84 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's you said in one of your interviews. 85 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: The times are changing, and um, listen, I was there 86 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: in two thousand two, and then when Phil one in 87 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen. Um, that place can be kind of stuffy. Um, 88 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: it was kind of the one in the road of that. 89 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: Everybody kind of knew that you know your field. Um. 90 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: You know, at times they can be not the most 91 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: user friendly, especially um um if you're a female. Yeah, 92 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: you know where. Like you said, times are changing, and UM, 93 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: I think they've obviously realized that, and in order to 94 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: get back on the Open roster, they knew what they 95 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: had to do and provide us with an opportunity to 96 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: play there. And I'll tell you what then, we didn't 97 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: feel unwelcomed the whole week. They were fantastic. Um. That 98 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: opened us. They welcomed us with open arms. Um. And 99 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: obviously you know, being there, what a fantastic golf course. 100 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: And I think so it's even it's one of the 101 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: fairest links golf courses I've played. But obviously it's the 102 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: history and how old it is, and you know, it 103 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: just creates us all around it. And for me to 104 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: be able to call myself the first female Women's Open 105 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: champion there, Um, I know I'll go down in history forever. 106 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: It is a very very difficult golf course. You said 107 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: that it is very very fair when you got there. Um, 108 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: had you played there before you? Had you ever seen 109 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: the golf course before? Had you only seen it on 110 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: maybe television? And yeah, I only see it on television. 111 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: My husband, he carries out an LPGA to He managed 112 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: to play it a few weeks before that, and he 113 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: told me it's going to be firm and face, which 114 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: is what I was excited about. Um. And then once 115 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: I got there, I just love the look of it, 116 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: the layout and how it was playing from the first day. 117 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: I think one of the things links golf is almost 118 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: it seems like, at times an equalizer, because there are 119 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: golf courses. If you have a tremendous amount of length 120 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: off the t it gives you a huge advantage. If 121 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: you know short game, if the roughest thick similar to 122 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: a US Open style, Um, you're not nearly short, but 123 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: you're certainly not one of the bombers at the LPG game. 124 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: So I think one of the things I like about 125 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: the Open Championship is that it does test every single 126 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: part of your game that you have to be able 127 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: to have all of the shots. So when you got 128 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: there and you kind of saw that it wasn't going 129 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: to be a bomber's paradise, that length was necessarily going 130 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: to be a huge advantage all of a sudden, it's 131 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: so like the playing field is is leveled when that happens. Actually, 132 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: as a player, when you say, okay, listen, I don't 133 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: feel like I have to do things I can't this week. 134 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: I feel like everybody is kind of pushed towards the 135 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: middle as opposed to pushed kind of short hitters, long hitters. 136 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: Does that give you a lot of Does that take 137 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: the pressure off? Does that give you more confidence? What's 138 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: the kind of mindset when you get to a golf 139 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: course where you say, listen, everybody's got a chance this week, 140 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: not just these kind of players. The office starts. I've 141 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: always loved links golf, and like I said, I think 142 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 1: it does even the playing field. I'm not obomber, and 143 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: for me, links courses about plotting your way around and 144 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: you have to be smart, and that's kind of golf 145 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: at once tournaments on on links courses. So we worked 146 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: my coach and I dug where we work very hard 147 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: on having an arsenal a lot of shots in my bag, 148 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: and I feel that Open Championship has always catered towards 149 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: that favors me. Um, and also I love to be 150 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: creative and have to have that imagination and when the 151 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: wound blows and you're able to run it up and 152 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: you don't have to fly it at the pin, I 153 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: think it definitely does favor me. And that's why I 154 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: always love every time I stand up at a Woman's 155 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: British Open, I just get a really good feeling about it. 156 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: One of the things I've heard, Um, you know, some 157 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: of the guys uh you know, when they go to 158 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: the Open Championship, they always say that it kind of 159 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: makes him feel like because the challenge is so different, 160 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: because it does test all the different aspects of your game. 161 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: It almost I mean, DJ was saying this year he 162 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: had a chance to win at St. Andrews. This year 163 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: at the Open Championship said he kind of likes links 164 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: off because it makes him focus more because he feels 165 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: like he can't take any holes off because every t 166 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: shot kind of demands that you say, Okay, where do 167 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: I want to be on the green? What do you 168 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: feel like that as well that it kind of makes 169 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: you focus maybe a little bit more that you can't 170 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: take some holes off. Yeah, I definitely. Um. A field 171 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: in particular was like that every T shot you're going 172 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: to stand up, You've got to commit and hit the shot. 173 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: Lucky for us, the one was the same direction every day, 174 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: So I just try to emulate and hit the same 175 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: shot every day or every T shot um that I 176 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: had so um, you know. And I also think you 177 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: have to have that concentration um like you said. And 178 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: there's just something about links golf that I just love it. 179 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: And I think it's also the history about it. You know, 180 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: it's where and especially playing in Scotland, it's where the 181 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: game started and I'm a golf nerd, so I just 182 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: love it. What kind of golf course did you grow 183 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: up on? Did you grow up on a golf course 184 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: that had some links characteristic to it, which which is 185 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: why you like links golf? No, not at all. I 186 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: grew up in Johannesburg. I mean where at altitude the 187 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: ball goes forever, park Land, Kakoi Fairways and Bank Green. 188 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: So nothing like links courses at all. Um. Let's go 189 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: back to the beginning. What dot you what got you 190 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: into off for you into other sports? When did you 191 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: start playing? What was kind of the catalyst that that 192 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: got you towards this path of being a professional golfer. Um. Yeah, 193 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: from a young age, I always had very good handbar coordination. 194 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: My parents picked that up and I loved all sports. 195 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: Um could hit. You know, South Africa, we played crickets. 196 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: That was so it's like picked up a cricket bat 197 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: or a baseball bat. I could catch a ball my dada, 198 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: so let me see if she can hit a golf ball, 199 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: because he plays and I could. And then you know, 200 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: at the age of three, I was hitting balls, and 201 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: about the age of six, I was saying to my dad, 202 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: let's go play golf. Let's take me to the driving range. 203 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: So it always came from me. But I played um 204 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: tennis and field hockey at school until the age of sixteen. 205 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: But I knew from a young age that golf was 206 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: going to be it and I wanted to be a 207 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: professional golfer. Did I read this correctly? When you were 208 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: fourteen years old, you won the In two thousand four, 209 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: you won the Women's South African Open at fourteen. Yeah, 210 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: at my home course. It was I mean, nobody expected 211 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: that I should sixty three on the last day on 212 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: my home course, to come from behind and win it. Um. 213 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: And at the time, there was a bunch of ladies 214 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: European to a place. They come down that we played 215 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: the four events in South Africa at that time of 216 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: year because the weather were still bad in Europe. So 217 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: that was kind of the start of it for me. 218 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: And then went on to win some professional tournament in 219 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: South Africa as an amateur every year until her termper 220 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: at eighteen. Do you even remember as a fourteen year 221 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: old what you were thinking going into you know, the 222 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: national championship of your country. Um, your fourteen I'm sure nobody. 223 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: I mean even if if, even if you're a really 224 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: good junior, I'm sure nobody expects a fourteen year old 225 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: to win their national Open at such a young age. 226 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: It's definitely not. I was just the fact that I'm 227 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: playing at my home course. This is so cool. I 228 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: remember obviously signing my car and shooting sixty three and 229 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: I was hanging out with my buddies and we were 230 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: having a coke afterwards. The next but somebody and told 231 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: me you won, and I was like, excuse me, and 232 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: it's a kind of giving for the prize giving. So 233 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: it was all a little sereal, you know. It was 234 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: part when back in the day I used to work 235 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: with Trevor and the woman who is still one of 236 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: my very good friends, and Trevor one back to back 237 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: essay opens at his home course, Aaron Vale. So I've 238 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: never really been to South Africa. I went down and 239 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: stayed with Trevor. We rented a house in Somerset West 240 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: that week and um, you know he was going to 241 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: that golf course and it's like he was like, listen, 242 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: I know every single shot on this golf course. I 243 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: know we're all the putts break. I mean, when you 244 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: play a big tournament at your home course, regardless of 245 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: what age you're at, do you feel like it kind 246 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: of takes a little bit of the pressure off to 247 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: where you say, listen, I'm I've played here a million times. 248 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: I kind of know what this golf course it does. 249 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: Thank yes, I know, because obviously there's an expectation from 250 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: everybody around you to do well with it being your 251 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: home of course. But I think also you play the 252 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: course as it is, like you would on a Saturday 253 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: or Sunday. Um, Whereas I think where we played tournaments 254 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: ready to go into the details and you know, try 255 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: to figure out where the exactly hit it. But when 256 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: you played so much, it just naturally stands out and 257 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: jumps out at you, and that's what you try to do. 258 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: So you're fourteen years old, you win, you know, the 259 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: South African Women's Open. Did that make you think, okay, um, 260 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: I can go on and do this, this is where 261 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: my pathway is. I can be a pro, I can 262 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: have a career. Was that the thought or did you 263 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: just say listen, I'm just gonna see what happens and 264 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: and see where things take me. Well, I mean from 265 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: a young age, like before that, I was telling my 266 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: parents I wanted to be a professional golfer. Um. So 267 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: the thought was always there. And then I think when 268 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: in that tournament again some really good players from Europe 269 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: at the time, obviously made me think, well, I really 270 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: can do this, um. And then I went on to 271 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: when many tournaments in South Africa represents South Africa in 272 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: the world and we won the world them in two 273 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: thousand and six, and you know, it was like a 274 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,239 Speaker 1: cross roads. Do I go to college dot im professional? 275 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: But I knew that I just wanted to play golf. 276 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: So at eighteen, I made the decision to turn professional. 277 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: And I started off saying, you're about to that. Did 278 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: you have any offers to go to college in the States. 279 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: I don't. I had a few, but my grades were 280 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: never going to be good enough, unfortunately. And like I said, 281 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, I was just wanting to play golf, and 282 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: I felt I was really I've proven that I could win, 283 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: proven I could win against you know, players playing in Europe, 284 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: and that's where I wanted to start off. So I 285 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: kind of felt that it was the right progression for me. 286 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: Two thousand seven, in your third start on the Ladies 287 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: European Tour, you win the Catalonia Masters. So I mean, 288 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: what a what a progression, right? I mean, most people 289 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: it takes them a while to get out on tour 290 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: find their feet. But you win in your third tournament. 291 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: Did did it feel like, Okay, I wanted an early age, 292 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: I want a big tournament. Now I've turned pro. I 293 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: one in my third event, did it just seem like, Okay, 294 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: that's the natural progression. Where you surprised? Were you shocked? 295 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: What was the feeling, you know, winning so soon on 296 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: a big stage after you turned prom Um. Yeah, I 297 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: think it definitely was my thought of all, this is 298 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: the progression, and this is how it's going to be, 299 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: and if this is how it's going to be life, 300 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: it's going to be great. Um. Things happenuntil the in camera. 301 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: It's so easy, but as we all know, in this 302 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: game doesn't always work out like we want too and 303 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: there's ups and downs and we've got to ride them. Um. 304 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: And then you know, that year it was great because 305 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: I had the expectation of my shoulders. I had secured 306 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: a Europeans to a card for two years, so I 307 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: knew I could go to lpg Q school and play 308 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: free um, knowing that I had a fallback plank kind 309 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: of thing. Um. And then I went to lpg Q 310 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: school and was in it all the way until the 311 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: last two holes and finished BERGI bergie and missed out 312 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: by one. And you know that that was eyebreak. That 313 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: year there was also only I think sixteen cards nowaday well, 314 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: then years after that there was always guaranteed twenty. So 315 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: I was like the first real heartbreak and lodge ship 316 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: that that I felt in Professional Goal. Did you feel like, Okay, 317 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: I need to reset, kind of re kind of evaluate 318 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: my goals or did you say, listen, go back to Europe. 319 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: I'll keep playing. Um I know my game is good 320 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: enough because I've always won. Because a lot of people, 321 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, they they do that, they went early, they 322 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: get that. So the next stage, Okay, you're secure in Europe, 323 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: but obviously everybody wants to play on the LPGA in 324 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: the States. Did you feel like, okay, do I just 325 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: keep doing what I'm doing? Did that force you to 326 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: maybe say, okay, maybe I need to make some changes. Um? No, 327 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: I kept doing what I was doing That next year wards, 328 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: so it was two thousand and eight conditional status, but 329 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: I still managed to play fourteen events. But it was difficult. 330 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: I was living in South Africa. You only need two 331 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: weeks before if you're in the event, You hop on 332 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: a plane, you flower over eighteen years old, conran a car. 333 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: You know. It was a lot um, but hey, it 334 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: made me who I am today a short add resilience. 335 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: I went back the next year. I got my card 336 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: for full card and played what twenty ten, four, two 337 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: dozen and nine full season, but I still wasn't quite 338 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: quite ready to compete on the LPG. I lost my 339 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: card and then I decided I'm gonna take a step back. 340 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: I switched coaches, and I went back to Europe and 341 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: played there for three years. And did the switching coaches 342 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: payoff immediately? Did you? Did you see immediate results or 343 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: was there kind of that kind of period where you're like, okay, 344 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: you know, maybe switching coaches big decision. You know I 345 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: had successful early because I always think that's interesting actually 346 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: as as as someone that that is a as a coach, 347 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: you know, the thought process from a player's standpoint. I mean, 348 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: I've been fired by guys that you have been number 349 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: one in the world, and um, that process is the 350 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: player to say, Okay, I feel like I've got to 351 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: make a change. I feel like I've got to get 352 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: to the next one. Talk me through what that process 353 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: this is like. I actually don't think I've ever asked 354 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: any of the guys that have fired me what what 355 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: the process is like, because you know, after what you 356 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: don't really talk to him that much after they fired. Um. 357 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: For me, it was a very difficult decision because my 358 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: coach at the time is it was a very good 359 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: family friend of ours, was very good friends of my dad, 360 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: and but I knew in order for me to progress 361 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: in my career that I needed to make a change. 362 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: And you know, at the time it wasn't easy and 363 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: we were both hurt, but you know, later down the line, 364 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: he knew that it was the best thing for me. Um. 365 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: And then in terms of when I switched coaches, that 366 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: took some time. We had to do a few changes, 367 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: and then I took about a year and then I 368 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: want in two thousand and eleven again on the Ladies 369 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: European Tour. UM. So it showed well, what I was 370 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: doing was working. And I've been with you, my coach 371 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: that I'm currently with since then, since two dozen and ten. 372 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: And Doug, I mean he works with some very very 373 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: good players. I've seen them, you know, on European Tour. 374 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: I used to see Doug a lot when he used 375 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: to go over to Abu Dhabi or Dubai with the guys. UM. 376 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: I think he's done a fantastic job with Eric van 377 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: Roy And I mean I love Eric's golf swing, right, 378 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it's pretty. I will sit and 379 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: watch Eric at golf balls, you know, if I'm sitting 380 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: on the range and stuff, and Eric's hitting balls and 381 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for somebody. I'll go stand, you know, twenty 382 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: thirty yards away and watch Eric hid golf balls. I mean, 383 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: I think his his golf swing is is really really good. 384 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: So you you make the change, you go from the 385 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: coaching change, Um, you win again. So again more validation 386 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: that you're on the right path. And you know, from 387 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven until two were there more winds and 388 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: where they're more near missus? Or did you just feel like, Okay, 389 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of plodding along and just seeing what 390 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: I can kind of get out of this. Yeah, there 391 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: was plotting. I mean I was pretty consistent, and I 392 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: mean I finished top fifteen I think every year on 393 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: the on the money lost day, so I was competitive. 394 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: There was a setback in I had to have hip 395 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: surge reef, so that put me out a good six 396 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: months left left labor and shave of the bones. So 397 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: I kind of played half of injured and when knew 398 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: I needed to get it done, so I did it 399 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: in the off season and then yeah, we went back 400 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: to Q school at the end often and got my 401 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: card back. Um, and that was the validation and I 402 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: was like, okay, now I felt Then I felt like 403 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: I was ready ready to come back and finally plan 404 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: on LP chair four time. When did you make the 405 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: move from s A over to the States full time? 406 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: Only during COVID. COVID forced us to do it. Um 407 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: so with my husband Caddy and told me he caddy 408 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: for me for eight years and then when we decided 409 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 1: to get married, we thought we'd separate the responsibilities and 410 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: rather stay married. Smart move, so you know, it took 411 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure off me um with us deciding 412 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: to do that. And then we still had our place 413 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: in South Africa and we would come over for three 414 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: months and then go back for two weeks because our 415 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: families there and we it's just in our blood. But 416 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: you know, it's not conducive if you want to compete 417 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: at you and if you want to set on. So 418 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: his brother lived in Illinois, lives in Illinois, so we 419 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: used that as a base um in the summer, which 420 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: was great. But then when the tour got shut down 421 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: so that FOGA was completely shut down, we couldn't get 422 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: enough out. Eventually it was July twenty. We've got a 423 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: repatriation flat. I packed our apartment up in ten days, 424 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: put everything in storage and came over and then when 425 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: we couldn't get back in the December of twenty twenty, 426 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: we landed up in Palm Beach Gardens with a host 427 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 1: family that we stayed without a tournament up in New 428 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: York at a second home down here. They said coming 429 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: up with us, and we're like, okay. So we stayed 430 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: with them for I think six weeks, and we thought, well, 431 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: this is a pretty good spot for golfers. Let's let's 432 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: see what we can do. And it's it's been great 433 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: for us. It's been great for my game, and obviously 434 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, being done in this era a so many 435 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: good golfers and golf courses around here. The move I 436 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: mean the Aussies and the South Africans have played professional golfer, 437 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: either on the men's side of the of the women's side. 438 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: I mean the amount of miles and travel that you 439 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: all are used to doing now that you don't have 440 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: to make those big trips back home because it's not 441 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: like you can. You know, if you miss the cut, 442 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: you just hop I mean hop on a plane and 443 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: go to you miss the cut, go to Essay for 444 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: a couple of days, see the family, get recharged, and 445 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: then get back on another plane and go back to 446 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: where it is. I mean, it's just it doesn't work 447 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, you've got a plan ten to 448 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: ten day two week trips and stuff has being settled 449 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: in the US and kind of being able to travel 450 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: out of one place without all of the long haul. 451 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you still have the long haul flights when 452 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: you want to go home and see family and friends, 453 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: but the travel if you're going to base yourself in 454 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: the US and travel on on the LPG, you still 455 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: have to go to Asia and and and somewhat to Europe. 456 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 1: But have you noticed that it's been easier for you 457 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: to just try and focus on some of the other 458 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: things that you couldn't focus on when you were traveling 459 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 1: so much. Most definitely, um, you know, those long haul 460 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: facts take it out of you and the jet lag. 461 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: And also for me, I played so much because I 462 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: didn't have somewhere to go, so I'd be like, oh, 463 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to play seven nights in a row. I'll 464 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: just take like Monday and half Tuesday off and that's 465 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: not conduced too good tournaments either. So having a base here, 466 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: having somewhere for me to come in off weeks, recharge 467 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: it's been huge, and this year I've taken a few 468 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: weeks off more than I would usually, but it's proven 469 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: proven to be the best then because when I have 470 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: come back, I'm refreshed and I've played better. How how 471 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: cool is it going to be moving forward as a 472 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: major champion where you can just sit look at the 473 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: LPJ tour schedule and go yes, no, no, yes. I 474 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: don't think people realize that when you're trying to play 475 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: that many tournaments in a row with no break, with 476 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: no time off, I mean, you're when you don't have 477 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: that kind of security, full status, you know that you 478 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: can kind of set your schedule. I don't think the 479 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: fans realize how not only mentally exhausting that is, but 480 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: physically exhausting, because as an athlete and as a goal 481 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: for you need time off. It's it's hugely important to 482 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: be able to go, Okay, I'm gonna shut it down 483 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: for three weeks, go take a vacation, or just do nothing. 484 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah. I don't think people do realize, and 485 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: I've started to realize it as I've got an older um. 486 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm thirty three and on LPG that's 487 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: old now. I don't feel very older. Um, but yeah, 488 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: it's definitely it's conducive to go play. And that's what 489 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: I've started to realize. But before I just used to 490 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: play play play and it wasn't great. Um, And I think, 491 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: what's going to be so helpful to be able to choose? 492 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: You know, there's certain courses that suit us and don't 493 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: suit us, and I'm going to be able to go, well, 494 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: I've never really performed that. I'm not going to go 495 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: there instead of forcing myself to go because I need 496 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: a plan and I need to try play well to 497 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: get up on the CME or keep my card. So 498 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: you know, it's huge short of my shawls failed to 499 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: pick and choose my schedule going forward. So let's go 500 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: back to your field lead another kind of you know, 501 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: World's Colliding. In two thousand two early Els, he held 502 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: the fifty four whole lead. Um, I read it was 503 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: his fifty first major. It was your forty or forty one, 504 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: it was your forte. You guys both have the list. 505 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: You've got a five shot lead. What was what was 506 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: your sleep like on Saturday night? Because one of the 507 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: things that I don't meet people if they've never been 508 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: to Scotland in the summertime. It's midnight and the sun's 509 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: not down. Yeah. Um the Saturday evening, I was actually 510 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: pretty good at call and we stayed in our house 511 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: so I went back and it helps having people around you. 512 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: We just chilled, we played something, you know, try to 513 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: go to sleep later so I would wake up later. Yeah, 514 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: because you're not seeing off until I was off ten 515 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: to four, which is the latest I ever tead off 516 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: in my life. Um So yeah, like, try to go 517 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: to sleep later, which I did, but I didn't wake 518 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: up later. I wake up at like quarter plus six. 519 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, well, this is going to be a 520 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: long day. So what did you do? You wake up 521 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: at six six am, not teeing off until four. Even 522 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: if you say okay, I'm gonna get the golf course 523 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: three hours before, you're still getting the golf course, I 524 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: mean six hours later early, Yeah, exactly. Um So I 525 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: try to just procrastinate, to be honest. Um, I did 526 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: laundry the charges past the time, and you know, I 527 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: did my parents, went through my ottage book and then 528 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: I finally I got to the course like two and 529 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: a half hours earlier. It's much earlier than I would normally, 530 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: but at least that way, i'd be surrounded by people, 531 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: talk to people, you know, just to keep my mind 532 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: occupied when you've got a big lead like that five shots. 533 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: And also you're saying yourself, okay, I've got a five 534 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: shot lead in a major championship. Is it is it 535 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: hard to stay you know, everybody says stay in the present, 536 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: don't get ahead of yourself. But with that much time 537 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: and a big lead like that, it's got to it's 538 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: got to be very difficult to not start thinking ahead 539 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: as to Okay, I got a chance to win a 540 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: major championship, all of the things that go without with 541 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: all of the exemptions, I've got a chance to win 542 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: over a million dollars, which is life changing on the 543 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: LPGA tour, to have the opportunity to win that. Um, 544 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: were you thinking ahead or you just staying in the present. Look, 545 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: it's hard not to think ahead. Um that wagon you're 546 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: gonna buy. My husband's thinking about all the new parts 547 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: as you go by. Um No, it's hard not to 548 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: not to think ahead and get last in it. But 549 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, people would have heard me talk about in 550 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 1: reference the mental coach I've worked with and and He's like, 551 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: I'm never going to stop you from thinking and ahead 552 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: and go in there. But as long as you can 553 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: quickly come back to the presence, that's what we're going 554 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: to work on doing. Um is it's impossible to make 555 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: you stop that. So you know, I let myself go 556 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: there and then as long as I pulled myself back. 557 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: The good thing is once I got to the course, 558 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: I didn't think about that once. I only thought about 559 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: doing my job and doing it the best I could 560 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: do that day, So you should seventy five. How was 561 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: the warm up? Was the warm up good? I mean, 562 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: was the warm up normal? Did you feel like, Okay, 563 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm in control, I got everything going even though I 564 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: got this big lead and stuff. It's it's it's it's 565 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: an open championship, it's a major. What was the warm up? Like? 566 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: The warp was maybe not as good as the previous 567 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: days because the nerves were there. It's you know, you 568 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: can't get away from them. But you know, I just 569 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: try to focus on doing the one thing while and 570 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: that was keeping my rhythm because that's all I tried 571 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: to do the whole week, and that would take me 572 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: away from thinking about the outcome and gave me my 573 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: one swing thought for the week that I could control um. 574 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: But you know, once I got out there, I finally 575 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: settled around the fifth hole, and it played tough. On Sunday, 576 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: the pins were attacked. Um, nobody was ready making too 577 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: many bodies, So I felt I was playing very steady 578 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: obviously until that one must have on fifteen. All right, 579 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: to talk us through, you stand on the fifteenth tee, 580 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: you end up making a triple bogey, which brings in 581 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: Chung right back in the tournament. But I think the 582 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: Open more, wouldn't you agree that the Open Championship more 583 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: than any other venue. You can make one bad swing 584 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: and you get out there and you're like, okay, I 585 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 1: know that was a bad swing, but I sure as 586 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: hell didn't deserve this line. I mean, I know I 587 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: made a bad swing, but you walk up and you're like, dude, 588 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: you can't get any worse than this. I mean, there's 589 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: not there. So when when you make that shot you 590 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: get up to the ball, does your mind start racing 591 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: or you going or do you just say to yourself, okay, 592 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: damage control? Yeah. I mean, first of all, when I 593 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: hit it, said, obviously the worst thing I made a week, 594 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: but I didn't even know there were bunkers there. That's 595 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, and played that whole hit it up the 596 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: ride every day and I hit it and I said 597 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: to Marcady, what's then looked in the ok I don't 598 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: know there's bunkers, But I thought, oh, well, it's in 599 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: a bunk. I'll just pop it out and back in 600 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: the fairway and we'll be okay. When I get up 601 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: there and it's like half plugged off the bounce up 602 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: against the face, I cannot go anywhere but left towards 603 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: the longer rough um. And then it just all happened 604 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: so quickly, to be honest, like I don't even know how. 605 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: I didn't even feel like I read. I feel like 606 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: I made one bad swing on that all they made 607 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: a triple um. You stand on the fifty, make one 608 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: bad swing and Allston you're saying, and you're like, what 609 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: the hell just happened? So it's almost like it happened 610 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: so quickly that I actually didn't have time to really, 611 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, rethink it and relive it and just 612 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: try more to get on with it. So you go 613 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: to sixteen um um your Cadetonia who caddied for one 614 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: of the great golfers of all time, Laura Davies. Um. 615 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: I've been lucky enough to meet Laura and and do 616 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: some stuff for for Sky Sports in the UK. I mean, 617 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: Laura is one of my favorite people. I will sit 618 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: and listen to her talk. Um, your caddy she caddied 619 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: for for Laura for long time. Did she say anything 620 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: to you on that walk from fifteen to sixteen that 621 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: that that that you remember? Yeah, she just said to me, Okay, 622 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: all we gotta do is get back on it. Now, 623 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: go do our job. And that was it. We didn't 624 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: discuss what happened, didn't discuss the heart break. Looked at 625 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: the leader board and I saw that all right, I'm 626 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: not tired with the energy, and I said to myself, well, 627 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: I haven't lost it. I haven't lost the lead, Um, 628 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: And we just stood on six sixteen. I had to 629 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: I think it's six or seven on in my hand 630 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: and just try to make a good swing. It's It's 631 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: interesting when I worked for brooks Kepta Um when he 632 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: won the p g A at Bethpage back nine, he 633 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: had a big lead. He was in dominant control the 634 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: whole day. DJ makes irn, he made a bunch of both. 635 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: I think he bog did like three or four or 636 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: in a row. His caddy, Ricky Elliott, they were going 637 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: to sixteen, which is one of the hardest driving holes 638 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: on the golf course, and Brooks said that Ricky said 639 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: to him, walk into sixteen. We are still leading the 640 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: golf tournament. And he said. Brooks said that Ricky sang 641 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: that to him, He's just made a bunch of bogies. 642 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: It seems like everything spiring out. And there was a 643 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: long walk from fifteen Green all the way down a 644 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: hill across the road sixteen and Brooks said, one of 645 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: the great things that Ricky said was, hey, we're still 646 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: leading the golf tournament. We make good swings coming down 647 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: the stretch, and we're still going to have a chance 648 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: to win this golf tournament. I always think that caddy's 649 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: the great ones say the right thing at the right 650 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: time and don't say anything at the right time as well, 651 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: because my dad's always told me listen, he said. One 652 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: of the things that he told me as an instructor, 653 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: he said, if you're gonna work with professionals tour players, 654 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: he said, I think one of the most important things 655 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: you need to realize is sometimes it's what you don't 656 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: say that makes all the difference. Right, And so you're 657 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: Caddie saying to you, listen, we're still in you know, 658 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: we're still in the lead. That's to make you kind 659 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: of go, Okay, I can put what just happened behind 660 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: me because I still have a chance to win the 661 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: Gulf Room. I got three holes left. Yeah, definitely. Um. 662 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: And that's where she's so good for me. She's so 663 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: good at keeping me calm in the pressure moments, keeping 664 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: it last heart and making me laugh when I need 665 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: a laugh, and you know, kicking me in the but 666 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: doesn't happen very often when I do need a little 667 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: click every now and then we all do. But yeah, 668 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: we've got a great relationship. And what she said to 669 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: me walking off fifteen, like I said, we're still in it, 670 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: she just said, get back on it. And and then 671 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: when we stood on what we stood on seventeen and 672 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: obviously reachable part five, and she said, Okay, I want 673 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: four good swings going in. You know, if I had 674 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: two good swings there and two good swings on eighteen, 675 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: I still had a chance to win it. So she 676 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: was very good at saying the right thing at the 677 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: right time. That way. All right, So you finished tied, 678 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: go to a playoff Inji Chong, I mean major champion. Um, 679 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: you know there's a long drive. You've got to go 680 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: sign your car or you've got then you've got to 681 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: getting the gotta getting the carts and drive all the 682 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: way back to the eight and again it's very similar 683 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: early Els one in a playoff on the eighteenth hole. Um, 684 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: so talk us through the mindset. Okay, you get to eighteen, Um, 685 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: you just played it. Um. I mean you hit beautiful 686 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: shots in the playoff. Um, off the tea, so you 687 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: put yourself right in the position that you want to 688 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: put in. Let's go on the first hole. Yeah. I 689 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: think obviously what was huge as for starters, I hold 690 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: at like six ft to make sure I got into 691 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So you know that was like all right, 692 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: we're in this, let's go. Um. And then I think 693 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: the T shirt favored me. I mean it's one of 694 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: the most the morning tea shots I've ever stood up 695 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: and had to hit to my career. You know, Bunker right, 696 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: we can't carry it on the flower. Bunker's left it 697 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: where we have to land at a rolls left and 698 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: the ones off the right. But because I hit a 699 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: little fade, it favored me and I knew I could 700 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: just hold it on that one, and I tried, like 701 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: I said, I try to stand up and hit the 702 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: same shot as I did every day on that whole um. 703 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: And once I got through that, then it was a 704 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: case of try hit the second shot, which was a 705 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: little bit more demanding, obviously having the bunkers on both 706 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: sides wounding off the right, and you know, I got cold, 707 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: like I had six on your regulation and then I 708 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: was hitting in seven woods, so they got cold in 709 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: the wind picked up a lot in those playoffalls. You're 710 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: in a match place situation at that point, Um, how 711 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: much are you just based? Are you trying to stay 712 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: in my own world. I'm just going to kind of 713 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: stay locked in do my own thing and not really 714 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: try and be affected by what Inji is doing. Are 715 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: you in your category? Are even telling you? You looking 716 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: and kind of going, Okay, she's just done this. Maybe 717 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: I kind of change my strategy and maybe I'm going 718 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: to do this. No, I stayed in my own world, 719 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: and I think that's what I did so well. And 720 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: while stayed so colm in that playoff. I mean I 721 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: remember even on the first playful, I didn't even know 722 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: Inji had hit it in the bunker because I was 723 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: so focused on she had to it first and doing 724 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: what I had to do. Um. So yeah, even though 725 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: she was playing first every time, it didn't alter my 726 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: decision in the shot I had to hit into the 727 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: green ye. Um. Cliches I think are cliches because they're true. Um. 728 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: They say in in in a matchplace situation like that, 729 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: you've got to expect your opponent to make shots right, 730 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: expect expected the unexpected. So she hits it in the bunker, um, 731 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: and then and gets it up and down. Let's go 732 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: to the second plan. So now we go back to 733 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: Now we go back to eighteen. Mm hmm. So we 734 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: go back to eighteen and again I just stand up 735 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: there like, okay, same shot, same shot. I just said 736 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: to myself, you know, um, like my swing thought for 737 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: the week was the type in terms of rhythm and pace, 738 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: because that kept me at rhythm. So that was my 739 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: only thought on every shot for the week. So that's 740 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: what I tried to do. Hit another great drive, and 741 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: you hit another one down the middle. Um. But then 742 00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: we're both hit poor seconds halved with fives and then um, 743 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: yeah we went back. By this point, um I was 744 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: getting dark. Um I had good drive, she had a 745 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: good drive, and then she went long I think all 746 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: long left, and I was sun highwall. I still can't 747 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: even remember some of her to be honest, did you 748 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: get so lost in the moment? And then I remember 749 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 1: reading the pats and thinking, man, it's getting dark. I 750 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: don't know how much longer we have. And I had 751 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: a pattern, to be honest, like two ft out I 752 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: thought I had it and just started off at the 753 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: whole and then a jie made U made four and 754 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: we went back and I said to Tania, what some 755 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: does it get dark? And Scott She's like mate and 756 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: stark for Evan. I mean it's light for ev in Scotland, 757 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: like you were saying. And I'm like, it doesn't feel 758 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: like it right now. Look, I don't think people realize 759 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: that when they're watching golf on TV, it looks brighter, 760 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: but they on the cameras they turned the iris is up, 761 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: it's actually a lot darker. And you could tell actually that, 762 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, I lived in Scotland for five years. I'm thinking, okay, 763 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: it's getting colder, the winds picking up the ball isn't 764 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: going to fly. You mentioned it, I mean six iron 765 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: in regulation, and then seven would in the playoffs. Alright, 766 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: so fourth playoff hall. So now you've played the eighteenth 767 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: hole for the fifth time in the last hour and 768 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: a half. And I didn't even realize that we had 769 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: played four holes once it was all done. So that 770 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: just showed how in the moment I was, which was 771 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: good obviously. Inji hit first and hit it in the bunk, 772 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: and then I was like, all right, well this is 773 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: my shot. Hopefully stand up, stand up. They hit the 774 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: two shot great, obviously had to play out. She had 775 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: a really good third shot in I was like, okay, 776 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: you just gotta hit the green. I don't hit the green, 777 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, And I was like, oh my gosh. And 778 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: if you've never been there, um, I don't think people 779 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: realize how narrow that little sliver of bunker to the 780 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 1: right of their I mean it's probably not even three 781 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: or four steps across. Yeah, it's a yard and a 782 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: half maybe, you know if two yards max. But you 783 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: got like you had a good were you on the 784 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: flat where you're on a little down slope. There wasn't 785 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: a little down slope, which I know. I got in 786 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: there and I was like, okay, this is this is 787 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: perfect little down slope downward. You know, if I commit 788 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: to the shot, I only have to landed on one 789 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: or two ms and it's going to roll out to 790 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: the whole. So obviously on TV it looked really difficult 791 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: obvious see the moment and what you can accomplish if 792 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: this pulls off is huge. But for I think most 793 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: professional golfers, we would have stood there and most of 794 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 1: us would have been comfortable trying to hit that shot. 795 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: So that was your mindset. You're standing over it, you're 796 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 1: in the fourth hole of a playoff to have a 797 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: chance to win your first major championship. You just basically 798 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 1: got up and they say, all the sports psychologists play 799 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: the shot. You're playing one shot at a time. So 800 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: you just got into that bunker and said, okay, this 801 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: is a pretty easy bunker shot. Um, stand up and 802 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: hit it. If I said easy. But yeah, well, you know, 803 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: like I said, you know, Tania pool off a great 804 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: line exactly what you've said, you know, saying there are 805 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: things at the right time, Um, and she said show 806 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: them why your number one in bunkers this season? So 807 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, let's do it. I've talked to 808 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: a couple of girls on the lpga UM about um interviewing, 809 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,439 Speaker 1: and I said, if you could take something from her game, 810 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: what would you take? Everybody said your tempo, but almost 811 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: everybody said your bunker game as well. Ernie Els is 812 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: a great bunker player. Blue Yu Stays is a great 813 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: bunker player. Gary player. I mean it's the short game 814 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: with the Spanish. They talked about the Spanish hands. Um. 815 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: I think that's all bullshit. I just think there's some 816 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: great shops. But I've seen it up close. What is 817 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: about people in essay? And I mean Trevor Immelman was 818 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: a pretty good bunker player too. I don't know. I 819 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. Something in the water down there. 820 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's nothing in the sand, you know. 821 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: Maybe I just say, you know, when I was a kid, 822 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: that's all we did. He just used to chip in 823 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: pats and got dark. Um. So I don't know if 824 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: it's just comes from us when we're kids. That's it 825 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: dropped off at the golf course and you chip impertin 826 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: that's what you do. So you're standing over how how 827 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: long was the pot? Three? Four ft longer? Um? No, 828 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: I was just under three feet, all right? And so 829 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: talk me through the thought process. Are you thinking all 830 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: the cliches? I've had this pot to win a big 831 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: tournament since I was a kid. Are you focused or 832 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: you trying to turn your brain off? Um? One of 833 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,919 Speaker 1: the things I love about what I get to do is, um, 834 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: I'll never I'll never have that opportunity, right, I have 835 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: to watch other people do that. So I'm always fascinated 836 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: as to what is the mindset because I've watched players 837 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: that I've been lucky enough to work with that have 838 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: one major championships and I'm standing over going four ft 839 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: and I can't even breathe. And I honestly I say 840 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: that I've said this before on the podcast off. I 841 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: don't have any idea how you how you guys do? 842 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: I don't because I know how hard it is to watch, right. 843 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 1: I know how ford it is outside the ropes, not 844 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 1: hitting any shots. I know how nervous I am trying 845 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: to watch a player win a tournament, let alone win 846 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: a major championship. I don't understand how you can even 847 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: get your body I mean I've spilled drinks. I've missed 848 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: my mouth before trying to drink while watching one of 849 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: the guys trying when I've missed my mouth with the 850 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: water and it's gone all over it. Yeah, what I 851 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: think of most people that were watching would have seen that. 852 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: Everybody watching, and Dave, my husband particularly was more was unbelievable. 853 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: I thought that was I thought that was I thought 854 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: that was amazing. Um yeah, but I didn't. I think 855 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: that's what's been so good is since I've started working 856 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: from the mental aspect. If I had was in that 857 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: same situation four months ago, I don't think I would 858 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 1: have been able to pull off any of it. Um 859 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: let alone stand over that pat and not think about 860 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: this is what you've dreamt of as a kid. This 861 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: is for the one. All I said to myself was 862 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: what I said the whole week. All right, do your process, 863 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: do your steps, and that is and we've got me 864 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: to have this routine whereas I close the door, and 865 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: every step so it goes from lining it up. You know, 866 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: I plumb, that's another step, blind the ball up. Okay, 867 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: step back, close the door, close the door, and everyone, 868 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: so you've completed every step and then once once everything 869 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: is completed, all you gotta do is hit the path. 870 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: So that's all I said to myself. And another thing 871 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 1: I said is I do this draw every week. It's 872 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: six ft draw I started six ft and every time 873 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: I make it, I go in, so I go around 874 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: the hole. I was like, all right, you do this 875 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: draw every week and do you know miss it? So 876 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: just think of your drawer and get up a shogo. 877 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: I've never heard anyone talk say that before. But so 878 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: the idea behind the process that you and um your 879 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: mental culture doing. So you've got the process, and the 880 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 1: idea is to go through and basically tick the boxes 881 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: off and once they're ticked off, you leave them behind. 882 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: You don't second guess the read you make. Whatever the 883 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: read you make it mhm, precisely so that you're not 884 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: in between. Because I found, like, you know, so I 885 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: was plumbing and then reading and then second guessing well 886 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: over punder right ever read it right? Well? No, you 887 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: have to do everyone individually and close the door on 888 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: every step. And then once you've linded up right, you've 889 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: you've done what you had to do. Now you just 890 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: hit the part if it misses well, was it a 891 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: battery was a bad but okay, then go and hit 892 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: the next one. To have the opportunity to share that 893 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,800 Speaker 1: with your husband, who basically is in the same world 894 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: as you are, right, I mean, I mean, if you're 895 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: not in professional golf, if you're not a player a 896 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: caddy involved in that, I don't think you understand the 897 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: significance how hard you have to work to to have 898 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,919 Speaker 1: the opportunity to win one of these for you too, 899 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: to be able to share that moment. The fact that 900 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: he caddies on the same tour as you do, I 901 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: mean that that is just and that's one of the 902 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: things that I that UM. Since I've started working more, UM, 903 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time with Marine Alex, who's 904 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: a good friend of yours. UM, I saw all the 905 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: pictures you. She she messaged me after the party you 906 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 1: guys she had and she's like, I'm still I'm still 907 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: I'm hungover. But it's been cool to watch the the 908 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: relationships of the boyfriend girlfriend's husbands and wives that there's 909 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: players and their caddying for other people. UM. To get 910 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: to share that with your husband, The fact that he 911 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: does basically the same stuff that you do, that's got 912 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: to be just an amazing experience for the two of you. Yeah, 913 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: it was huge, And you know it's also a case 914 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: of you know, he gave up so much to come 915 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: out here. Um. You know, well when we started dating 916 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: with a life long distance for three years and it 917 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: became too difficult, he said, well, let me come caddy 918 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,240 Speaker 1: for you and I was like, no, that's not gonna work. 919 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: And I said, ok, well take some leave from your job, 920 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: will go to Australia for three weeks and let's see 921 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: how it goes. And yeah, you see, he still hasn't 922 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 1: gone back to that job. Three weeks turned into eight 923 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: years on the bag. Yeah, eight years on the bag 924 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: and obviously many and he was there for it all 925 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: has in loads of We one together twice on the 926 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 1: Ladies European Tour, which to wins together is so special. Um. Yeah, 927 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: for him to he's part of the journey and part 928 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: of the hard work that's gone into it. So it's 929 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: also affirmation for him and what he gave up to 930 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: be our chair with me and for it to all 931 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 1: pay off. What is the feeling when the part goes in? 932 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: Is it relief? Is it? Is it just are you 933 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: just I mean, at that point you've got to probably 934 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: just say I'm just glad this thing's over. I don't know, 935 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: you don't really know, because it's just so many emotions 936 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,240 Speaker 1: go through you. At first it was like I think relief, 937 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,320 Speaker 1: and then it was like, oh my gosh, I've actually 938 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: done this. Um, and then it starts to hit you 939 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: with luck. Wow, you're a major champion. This is what 940 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: you used to stand on the putting green in the 941 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: dark to hold parts um you on that third play 942 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: or for I was reading the part and one of 943 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: my good friends that I used to play junior golf, 944 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: but he obviously takes me saying congrats, And I thought 945 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: of the moment when we were kids and we used 946 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: to put on the dark on Friday evenings. Four cooks 947 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, um, and I used to say, and I 948 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,359 Speaker 1: said to myself, well that didn't bother you in. Don't 949 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: let a body now, because as professionals we start to 950 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: let those things get to us. Are it's too dark, 951 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be out chair. You know. You didn't let 952 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: a body in, So just carry on. And there was 953 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: everybody just ran on, which was so cool to have 954 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: so many friends that had family there from South Africa, 955 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,919 Speaker 1: and then the emotions just obviously overtook. Okay, Marina told 956 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 1: me you're not a big drinker. Cam Smith who won 957 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 1: the Open championship. The first thing, Cam if anybody knows, 958 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna try and figure out how many how many 959 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,959 Speaker 1: beers he can get in that thing. Have you had 960 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: alcohol out of the trophy? Thanks to Marina? Yes, Marina 961 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: made sure that was going to happen, you know, so 962 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: we had I had obviously a few steps on the Sunday, 963 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: but we got done so late. And then on Thursday 964 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 1: this past week we went around to Marina had all celebration. 965 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: Cary was there too, so it was it was very 966 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: cool and sorry Dave's Dave knows that two pints go 967 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: into the trophy. There you go, what is I mean? So? 968 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 1: Now what I mean? You you've proven to yourself that 969 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: you can win a major championship. Um, you're going to 970 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 1: be a major champion regardless. So now that puts you 971 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 1: in the conversation that when the next batch of majors 972 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: come around, you're going to be in that conversation of 973 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: someone that has one a major that wanted in style, 974 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: wanted against one of the best players on the lp 975 00:48:55,120 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: did do you now reset your focus? Reset your goals? Um, 976 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: and you know what is what is the goals for 977 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 1: the rest of the year. I think I still need 978 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: to kind of sit back and really look at it. 979 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I've had enough time to process 980 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: goals for the rest of the year. Um. But I 981 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: know that when I get to a tournament there's going 982 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: to be a few more eyes on me, but more expectation. 983 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: But and yeah, I will be in the conversation obviously. 984 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: It gives me the belief to know I can win 985 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 1: on the LPGA, and I think in the fashion that 986 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: I wanted with the grits and the determination to come 987 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 1: back after that triple uh makes me believe even more so. 988 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 1: So I think next time I am in contention, UM, 989 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 1: I just know that that I'll be able to. I 990 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: don't know if you're going to pull it off, but 991 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: I can handle it. And I think next year will 992 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: be definitely reassessing goals and choosing the right tournaments to 993 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: play in order to to play well. You also have, 994 00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,040 Speaker 1: I think now a very unique and amazing opportunity to 995 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 1: inspire the next generation of female golfers from SA I mean, 996 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 1: obviously you said you mentioned your golfing heroes Ernie Gary Player, 997 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 1: I mean Retief, all of the great great men that 998 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: have come before you. Um. But I think it is 999 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: so important for junior golfers to have someone to look 1000 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: up to to say, listen, she's from Johannesburg. I'm from Johannesburg. 1001 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 1: She she I'm a member at the same club that 1002 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: she's a member at. And and and are you aware 1003 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 1: that you have the opportunity now to inspire this next 1004 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: generation of young um female golfers in South Africa. Yeah, 1005 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean for me to be able to put on 1006 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: that so called pedestal is it's a huge honor and 1007 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm hoping it will inspire many many young girls in 1008 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,399 Speaker 1: South Africa to take up the game. And I think 1009 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,399 Speaker 1: it was so great is in South Afria we don't 1010 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: get all the coverage of the LPGA events. Only in 1011 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: the last few maybe three or four years, as it 1012 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: started to get the coverage. And obviously it's also most 1013 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 1: of the time tape the late at strange hours. And 1014 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: I think the great thing about the Women's Open, it's 1015 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: one hour time change and so many people were tuned 1016 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: in from South Africa, so they actually got to witness 1017 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 1: it and live it with me. Um, which I think 1018 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: is why the love and the support I've had from 1019 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: SOD Africa has been even more than than usual. Lastly, 1020 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 1: did any of the golfing heroes you've got, Ernie Garrett, 1021 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: did any of them reach out to you and say 1022 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 1: congrats and and that I mean hopefully they did. Yeah, 1023 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 1: I know they did. Gary actually sent me a voice 1024 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: note after the Friday to say you'd seen I was leading. Um, 1025 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: you know, gave me a few little good tips to 1026 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 1: stay patient everybody's going to hit bad shots, to keep 1027 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: my head still in on Patty. Um, this is very one. 1028 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: And then to think when you know so and then 1029 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 1: you Ernie reached out, you know, Eric obviously reached out 1030 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 1: a lot of the South African players, Brandon Gray. So no, 1031 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 1: it's it's all been very cool. And do you feel 1032 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: like now you've arrived and you belong? I do. I 1033 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 1: think it's gonna probably only really hit me when I 1034 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 1: rock out to Canada and actually not havn't seen a 1035 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 1: lot of players, and then I do feel that, you know, 1036 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 1: hopefully when I get to the tournament, they will I 1037 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 1: will have a little bit of a different feeling and 1038 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 1: belief in myself when when I rock a bit of 1039 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: tournament weekend and week out. Now, well, I watched you know, 1040 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: the entire back nine. Um, you know, I thought the 1041 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: way that you handled what happened on fifteen. Um, I 1042 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: always think that, you know, when you're watching golfers, how 1043 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: they handle adversity, what happens. I mean, anybody when when 1044 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 1: you're playing good, when you're hitting good shots, it's ez right, 1045 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean everybody, everybody's good at that. But I really 1046 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: thought the way that you handled that, the way you 1047 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 1: played the last three holes, and then the focus that 1048 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 1: you had um down the stretch in in in the playoff, 1049 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: you win majors. Are a lot of people win majors, 1050 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: but winning there in the fashion that you did, Um, 1051 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,240 Speaker 1: that's a hell of an accomplishment. You must be really 1052 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: really proud, And uh, I think it's going to be 1053 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,319 Speaker 1: really really cool because you've got to think the next 1054 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,880 Speaker 1: time you get a chance to win a golf tournament, 1055 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:17,319 Speaker 1: you're gonna go, I can get this done. Hopefully, That's 1056 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: how I feel. But yeah, somebody asked me another podcast, actually, well, 1057 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 1: you know, you know, if you thought back would it 1058 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: have been better or nice? And to obviously have walked 1059 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,439 Speaker 1: up easy and with a few shortly and I said, yeah, 1060 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,319 Speaker 1: I would have been better for everybody's nerves. But I 1061 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 1: think the way it went down, it's going to be 1062 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: far more memorable. And like you say, when you stand 1063 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 1: up at another tournament, hope it will feel like you've 1064 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: got this. You're you're now a millionaire in US dollars. 1065 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 1: But give us the rand on how much one? How 1066 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 1: many millions of rand South African rand did you win? 1067 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,919 Speaker 1: It's gotta be I'm thinking it's got to be close 1068 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: to twenty million. Uh, I think it's like fifteen to 1069 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,280 Speaker 1: one at the moment, so probably just over fifteen million. 1070 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: But we don't get all that money and some Texas 1071 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,320 Speaker 1: and we've got there you post that they obviously, I 1072 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: mean that's a huge pressure off my back to have that, 1073 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: and you know, it's life changing. Like I said, we 1074 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: don't get to play for that bunny on the whole 1075 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: PG and for me to win that as my first 1076 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: tournament is huge. Well, congrats it's um it was a 1077 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: hell of an accomplishment. UM, thanks for talking to me, 1078 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: and uh, we'll look forward to UM. How teach Marina 1079 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 1: how to get out of a bunker. Okay, thanks for 1080 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: having one, appreciate it. Great to talk to you. Actually, yes, 1081 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: So that was actually Buhai major champion for the rest 1082 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,320 Speaker 1: of her life, and I think that's just such a 1083 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: cool thing, you know, to be able to work your 1084 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: entire life towards a goal and to to be able 1085 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,840 Speaker 1: to come away. UM the way she won. UM, you 1086 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: could hear her talking about it, all the crazy things 1087 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 1: that goes into winning a major champion, major championship, and 1088 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,919 Speaker 1: she got it done. So hats off to her and 1089 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: really looking forward to seeing UM if this is a 1090 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: springboard for her to UM, you know, continue to win 1091 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 1: tournaments and to win more major championships. UM. I didn't 1092 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: put questions up uh for the pod this week because 1093 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be inundated with live questions. Hell 1094 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,879 Speaker 1: of a week last week, Rory McElroy, what a performance, UM, 1095 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: Scottie Scheffler, those two battling it out down the stretch. 1096 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Rory has been front and center UM as 1097 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,720 Speaker 1: kind of the spokesperson for the PGA Tour, and Scottie 1098 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,240 Speaker 1: Scheffler had a breakout year and just played fantastic golf. 1099 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,879 Speaker 1: UM disappointed. UM for him, I'm still not too sure 1100 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,319 Speaker 1: about that format. UM. I wasn't sure about it when 1101 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson won a couple of years ago. UM I 1102 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 1: was working with Brooks CapCo and when Brooks had a 1103 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: chance to win the FedEx Cup, I still can't figure 1104 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: it out. UM. I know they they've got to try 1105 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 1: and do something. You know, they're trying to figure out 1106 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: a way to wait it so that you know the 1107 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,959 Speaker 1: play that you've had UM at the beginning of the year, 1108 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 1: throughout the year. UM, you go in there with you know, 1109 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,839 Speaker 1: a little bit of a cushion, but you can miss 1110 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 1: the first He missed the cut in the first FedEx 1111 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 1: Cup playoff event and still win the FedEx So UM, 1112 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: I think they still need to tweak that. But Rory McElroy, 1113 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he plays unbelievable golf. UM. I love his 1114 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 1: golf swing. I love the way he plays golf. UM. 1115 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 1: I'll sit on a driving range and watch Roy McRoy 1116 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 1: hit golf balls all day long. And uh, you know, 1117 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: Scotti Scheffler opened the door for him and Rory. He's 1118 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 1: done that before. UM. That's his third UM FedEx Cup championship. 1119 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,919 Speaker 1: UM where he's If I'm not mistaken, I think he's 1120 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 1: come from behind in all of them. I know he 1121 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: came from behind in this one. I know he came 1122 00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 1: from behind when when he beat Brooks in nineteen and uh, 1123 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 1: you know, just a dominant performance and just a hell 1124 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 1: of a hell of a player. And to have three 1125 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 1: FedEx Cups, to do something that even the great Tiger 1126 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: Woods hasn't done. Um, I take my hat off, hats 1127 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 1: off to him because you know I said it in 1128 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 1: the first episode UM of the Son of a Which 1129 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 1: podcast with my dad. When Rory's firing on all cylinders, 1130 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: you can make it a case that that he's the 1131 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: best player in the game because he can make golf 1132 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 1: look easy. He can do things that other players can't. 1133 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 1: You can drive the golf ball in places other players can't. 1134 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 1: And what a performance. And I think Rory played with 1135 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 1: the weight of the entire p g A Tour and 1136 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 1: all the boys in Ponto Vidro. He played with them 1137 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 1: on his shoulders. He put the PGA Tour on his 1138 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 1: back this year and went out and got it done. 1139 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,959 Speaker 1: So hell of a performance and great to see Rory 1140 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 1: winning golf tournaments. UM. Six new guys coming to live 1141 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: this week, and the biggest one is cam Smith. If 1142 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 1: you're following the live PGA Tour battle, I think when 1143 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 1: you lose the players champion and the Open champion and 1144 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: the number two player in the world, UM, it's hard 1145 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: to continue to say that. You know, live is a 1146 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: flash in the pan, and it's it's going away. Hopefully, 1147 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: and I keep saying this, Hopefully everybody can just get 1148 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: back to playing golf. You want to stay on the 1149 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 1: PGA Tour, stay on the PGA Tour. If you want 1150 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: to go play live, go play live. UM. But I 1151 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 1: saw a tweet today which I thought was pretty interesting, 1152 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: UM from Kyle Porter. He said, with the addition of 1153 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 1: camp smith lives collection of golfers have one twelve of 1154 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 1: the last twenty four majors. So this narrative that it's 1155 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 1: a old folks home, it's a bunch of husbands and 1156 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of people that can't play golf, I 1157 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,919 Speaker 1: think if that's your stance, then, UM, you're not looking 1158 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 1: at it through an objective lens. UM. I'm looking forward 1159 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,960 Speaker 1: to see and how can plays this week. UM. I'm 1160 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: looking forward to another live event this week. UM PG 1161 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: Tours on UM their seasons ended and we'll be starting 1162 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 1: back up. But UM should be really really interesting to 1163 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 1: see UM the fourth live event UM and see how 1164 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: it plays out. Son of a Buch comes to you 1165 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 1: every Wednesday. I want to thank everybody for listening, and 1166 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 1: again if you haven't gone back and listened to the 1167 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 1: episode with my dad butch arm and check it out 1168 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 1: because it is a good one. We will see you 1169 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 1: next week.