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Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to OOKP Daily with Me

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Speaker 1: your Girl, Danielle Moody recording from the Home Bunker, Folks,

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited about today's episode and for you to

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Speaker 1: take a listen to it. I had the pleasure of

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Speaker 1: interviewing and we're actually doing a episode swap and share

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Speaker 1: with Jason Petty aka Prop, who is the host of

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Speaker 1: Hood Politics over on iHeart. And I'm really excited because

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Speaker 1: the conversation, you know, we really covered a lot of

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Speaker 1: ground in talking about black participation in politics, props thoughts

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Speaker 1: on why mistakenly there are some black men that support

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Speaker 1: Donald and why that's problematic. We talk about, you know,

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Speaker 1: voter suppression, we talk about, you know, democratic messaging. We

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Speaker 1: talk about so much because what I really love about

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Speaker 1: Hood Politics and PROPS show is that he makes politics

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Speaker 1: accessible to everybody. He's like, if you have been hustling

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Speaker 1: or you are you know, formally incarcerated, like you understand politics.

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Speaker 1: You understand politics probably more than most, and trying to

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Speaker 1: engage people in a way that doesn't make it feel

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Speaker 1: like this is for somebody else, that this is actually

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Speaker 1: about your life and how politics play such a huge

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Speaker 1: part in your life, right, and so I think that

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Speaker 1: the conversation is extraordinarily rich. I really hope that you

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Speaker 1: all enjoy it. Please let me know in the com

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Speaker 1: sections what you think about the things that we cover,

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Speaker 1: and also check out props show Hood Politics also with

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Speaker 1: iHeart folks. I am super excited to be doing a

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Speaker 1: crossover episode with a fellow iHeart a podcaster, a fellow politico,

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Speaker 1: Jason Petty aka Propaganda, who is the host of Hood Politics.

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Speaker 1: I love what you say under the description of the show,

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Speaker 1: which is basically like, you know, if you've ever, you know,

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Speaker 1: been in a gang, if you've ever liked been in

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Speaker 1: the street, if you know you know anything about that,

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Speaker 1: then you know politics facts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I.

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Speaker 1: Think that that for me, I was just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: how opening is that? Like, yeah, because you because the

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Speaker 1: way that politics is discussed has all always been this

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Speaker 1: very narrow you need to have a degree, you need

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Speaker 1: to have this like all of this kind of bullshit,

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Speaker 1: and what you're offering is like, no, politics is for

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Speaker 1: all of us, for every for every one of us.

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Speaker 1: So talk to me. I guess about how your show

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Speaker 1: got started and why?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. Then, first of all, thank you for for

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Speaker 2: for reaching out and making this happen. Yeah, Like, whether

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Speaker 2: it's like you were in a gang or you ran

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Speaker 2: from them, you know, you the the the interactions, the

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Speaker 2: ways for which you had to learn to navigate just

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Speaker 2: to survive. The world that we're in is like you,

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Speaker 2: like you said, like you, you, we're we're made to

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Speaker 2: feel like we don't know what we're talking about. And

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Speaker 2: the more that I became more formally educated, the more

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, a lot of this, Like I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of this already, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: I just didn't. I didn't know these words or these terms,

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Speaker 2: you know, right, and uh and and then when I uh,

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Speaker 2: teaching high school, I was teaching at juvenile halls. And

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Speaker 2: it's like I'm just trying to figure out how to

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Speaker 2: finding I was like, man, there's I'm pulling for my

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Speaker 2: like dude, it's like it's really like we really know

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Speaker 2: And and I think ultimately, like you said, like I'm

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Speaker 2: then with the the like like like like like Mama

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Speaker 2: I'm not worthy to be in this conversation because I

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Speaker 2: I feel like the more that like what I wanted

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Speaker 2: onboard you Like I'm like, why why shouldn't Pooky and

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Speaker 2: your auntie and them could send out a text be like, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I mean. So I'm like, I just I wanted people

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Speaker 2: they did they think it, do you know, and that

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Speaker 2: you're actually well way more equipped than you think you are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that's right. And I also think

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Speaker 1: right who who know more, who are who are smarter

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Speaker 1: in any type of way. I actually put up a

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Speaker 1: You know, I I was a fellow on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 1: I worked for a member of Congress. That's how I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's how I first got started. And this

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Speaker 1: were to rename politics, it would be like called you know,

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Speaker 1: your day. You were voting on what your day to

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Speaker 2: When you see these dudes, like when you see them

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh, fam you you didn't. You haven't read

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Speaker 2: didn't right now, you didn't read it. Like so I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: And it's and I think that that's what people and

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Speaker 1: that's why I really like the the onboarding, the opening

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Speaker 1: And so I think that it's I think that it's

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Speaker 1: the overwhelm, the ignorance that it isn't it isn't just

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Speaker 2: What do you do you do you think that that's like,

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Speaker 2: do you do you find that? Like your show has

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Speaker 2: you're like the point you're trying to make is that

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Speaker 2: Is that kind of I listened to a lot of

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Speaker 2: Like let me just say that number one.

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Speaker 1: Thank you brilliant.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And and I love the

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Speaker 1: So the show launched in twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen. Brother,

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Speaker 1: wanted people to recognize that they have more power than

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Speaker 1: they think, right, that this game that these white, old,

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Speaker 1: And so my show has always been about raising consciousness.

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Speaker 1: know who always shows up, The seventy year old racist

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that you called it well one because

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Speaker 2: like it's before the name.

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Speaker 1: Was stolen from a systry, correct as it was before

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Speaker 2: Before they stole it and redefined it, which is another

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Speaker 2: power to like take something that sounds familiar and redefine

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Speaker 2: we don't know what we talk about, you know. So

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Speaker 2: I love that you like kept the name to be

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Speaker 2: Because because they recognize that he's a boss, like this

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Speaker 2: his money, you know. But that's the type of stuff

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Speaker 2: that I feel like that's where me and you come

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Speaker 2: in when we sit down and say now old now.

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Speaker 1: Like right this because I'm because yeah.

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Speaker 2: Not true, not true. Now you make your own decision,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying at the end.

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Speaker 1: Of the act, but do it with actual information and

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Speaker 1: not just the things that he's putting out. We're rapping

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Speaker 1: on time, But let me close out with this question

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Speaker 1: for you, which is this. You know, we have nine

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Speaker 1: months until the election. If prop if Trump manages to

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Speaker 1: steal this election, to win this election. I talk about

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Speaker 1: it every day on woo KF that this country our

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Speaker 1: democracy ish, which is which is what it is for

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Speaker 1: black and brown people, for queer people, for anyone who's

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Speaker 1: not white and wealthy and straight and Christian. It's democracy light.

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Speaker 1: But if Trump gets in, do you think that people

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Speaker 1: truly understand what will happen? Do you think that the

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Speaker 1: consequences like that, or that they think that we'll just

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Speaker 1: be able to hang on like we did in the

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Speaker 1: first four years.

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Speaker 2: No. I think my I come from like history, social science,

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Speaker 2: like educational background, and when you come from that, it's

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Speaker 2: like I can name off hand ten democracies that collapsed,

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Speaker 2: like it happens all the time. Democracies collapse, you know,

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Speaker 2: and nations collapse and they rebuild. I think that I

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Speaker 2: find that any predictions are usually off the mark in

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Speaker 2: either direction. Like you know, I feel like it's not

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Speaker 2: like the day after he gets elected the world's going

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Speaker 2: to go up in flames, and it's also not like

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Speaker 2: nothing's going to happen, you know what I'm saying. Like,

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Speaker 2: I think that the slow crawl, which clearly starts did

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Speaker 2: decades ago into the collapse of the American democracy and

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Speaker 2: it'll become something else later. But you know, the idea

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Speaker 2: of an autocratic you know, dictator, which he is, is

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Speaker 2: like this happens all over the world all the time.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's the it's the death

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Speaker 2: of an empire. It's really we're really watching the slow

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Speaker 2: death of an empire. It is what it is. I

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Speaker 2: don't think people really understand what that means and how

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Speaker 2: it looks, and then how long it's going to take

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Speaker 2: to if we'll ever become an empire again, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I think that people have a much like

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Speaker 2: shorter understanding of history than they than they should, you know,

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Speaker 2: which to me actually gives me a little peace in

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Speaker 2: the sense that like there is such thing as France,

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Speaker 2: like Greece is still a country, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Those were collapse, the democracy, like they've collapsed, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, And now I mean it still exists,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I think in some senses,

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Speaker 2: having a longer view of history, like I'm like, in

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Speaker 2: the same way that like when the meteor, the asteroid

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Speaker 2: that killed the dinosaur struck you know, it wiped out

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Speaker 2: life and then earth was fine. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I think that there is there is that like it

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Speaker 2: ultimately will be fine. Will we survive it? I don't

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Speaker 2: know if we're gonna survive correct, Yeah, but I do

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Speaker 2: think I yeah, I think that like Trump in the

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Speaker 2: sense again going back to like why like I think

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Speaker 2: hoods does like recognize it is like he's like, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna do what I said. I'm gonna do like I

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Speaker 2: told y'all day one, I'm finna black pos up like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand. I told you that's what I was

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Speaker 2: gonna do. And I was like, yes, he did what

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Speaker 2: he said he was gonna do. You know. So I

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Speaker 2: think that like there's there's there's that. I do think

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Speaker 2: that there's that reality. I think also think the reality

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Speaker 2: that people are not accepting is the fact that he

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Speaker 2: might win. That is a high possibility that he is

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Speaker 2: that he will win this election. Now he's I also

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Speaker 2: get frustrated with the fact that people talk like he

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Speaker 2: like y'all forget he lost twenty twenty like that he did.

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Speaker 2: He did lose, you guys, Yeah, he lost, like y'all,

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Speaker 2: y'all talking about him like he won, like he he lost,

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Speaker 2: you know, so so yeah, but yeah, I don't I

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Speaker 2: don't think people understand like the idea of like you

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Speaker 2: could live in a fallen democracy, that that is possible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have loved this conversation so very much.

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Speaker 1: We will have to do more of these as we

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Speaker 1: count down to the election.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have to We're gonna have to do

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Speaker 2: some like reaction pods or like did you see this?

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Speaker 1: We absolutely will. So this is we'll say this is

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Speaker 1: the first installment crossover wok F and Hood Politics prop.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It has been fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I appreciate, appreciate you everything you're doing, the

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Speaker 2: way you bringing it like this is dog. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That is it for me today, dear friends on wok

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Speaker 1: F as always, power to the people and to all

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Speaker 1: the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fuck.