1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:03,119 Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, June twenty fourth, and the prosecution rests, 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: the defense rests, and Diddy says thank you to the 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: judge in open court. Welcome to the second Diddy update 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: of the day here on Amy and TJ and Robes. 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: It was a day of developments, which is why we're 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: hopping back on. 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: A lot of. 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: Stuff happened in the afternoon as we're recording this. It 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: is early evening here on the East Coast. But a 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: day of developments, including hearing Diddy's voice in open court. 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: I guess just the we'll get into the exact quotes 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: in a second, but just the idea of hearing from 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: him seems like it's a big day, just that he spoke. 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: Did you just imagine he said it the way you 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: inflected it? 17 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 4: Thank you. 18 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: Would take that? Take that take that. 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 4: I was laughing. I was like, Wow, did he really 20 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 4: do it? Just like that thing? 21 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: You know what if you did, maybe you want to 22 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: sound very sweet and very innocent today in court. 23 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: We know I cannot imagine. 24 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: Coming out it's probably Mike, thank you no, but this 25 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: is the first time that we have heard from Ditty 26 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 3: directly correct since the beginning of this trial. 27 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think there had to be something where 28 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: he had to give a nod or a yes, or 29 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 2: maybe eighty little. 30 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: I can't remember it though. 31 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 3: The only thing I have seen reported on from folks 32 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 3: in the courtroom is his demeanor, his facial expressions, the 33 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: fact that he was nodding or nodding. 34 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 4: Aggressively towards a juror. 35 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: We've seen reports today that he was hunched over, reports 36 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: that he wouldn't look at the screen when some of 37 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: the explicit videos were being shown, But no, those were 38 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 3: just descriptions of his behavior and his physical demeanor, but 39 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: nothing from him directly. 40 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: You know what. 41 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: We've been following a lot of these coom these reporters, 42 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: and we were reading their note today about him speaking. 43 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: None of them mentioned that he had spoken prior, so 44 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: I think they would have. 45 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 4: They would have pretty sure that would have been a 46 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 4: big deal. 47 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: So this might have been it to hear from him 48 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: the first time. 49 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: We also had a cross examination that took longer than expected, 50 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: which is now messing with the timeline. 51 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: And also Diddy's team. 52 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: Is asking for an acquittal right now and they haven't 53 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: gotten an answer to that yet, So that's an afternoon 54 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: of developments. That's why we jumped on. But I guess, 55 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: like we said, the big one here hearing Diddy's voice. 56 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: This is a standard part of any trial. We talked 57 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: about it before it happened. We're going to hear from 58 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: Diddy today because they always ask are. 59 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: You going to testify on your own defense? 60 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 4: Yeah? 61 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 3: But I thought it was interesting that the judge started 62 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: with asking Diddy how he was feeling that. 63 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: I've heard that before. I didn't either, but it. 64 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: Once in a while though, cordial, how are you feeling? 65 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 4: So the judge asked Diddy, how are you feeling? 66 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: Comb says, I'm doing great, Thank you, your honor, and then. 67 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 4: He added my favorite part. He tells the judge you're 68 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: doing an excellent job. Charming as ever. 69 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: I did like that, Okay, I did like it. 70 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: Look everybody likes to be complimented, and a judge in 71 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: his federal trial, I liked it. Who knows what it 72 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: came off. I wonder how it felt in the courtroom. 73 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: Was it actually a warm moment? Is it possible to 74 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: have a warm moment in that courtroom? 75 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: Possibly, but it does seem it seems like there's a 76 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: motive behind a defendant telling a judge that he's. 77 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: Doing an excellent job. 78 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe he really felt that and thought that, 79 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: but it just made me laugh a little, just because 80 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: so much of what we're hearing about Diddy and his 81 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: charming and uh, just he had a way with people. 82 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: He knows how to make people do what he wants 83 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: them to do. 84 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: That was my thing. 85 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: What if this was a matter of control that yes, 86 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: I'm the defend that my life was on the line, 87 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: but I'm telling you you're doing a good job. I 88 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: still need my approval in this room. But what's going on? 89 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: Using with confidence, ouzing with confidence, as is the defense. 90 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: You notice our our afternoon updates. We're a lot looser. 91 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: We're yeah, we are a punchy. We've been up since 92 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: two thirty three in the morning at this point, so 93 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: forgive us, but we're. 94 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: Going to get through it. 95 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, we weren't even expecting to do this episode, 96 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: but a lot happened this afternoon, and it was certainly 97 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: worth noting, specifically because yes, did he did speak, so yes. 98 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: Combs also told the judge that he was not going 99 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: to testify. No one thought he was going to, and 100 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: certainly the defense has told us over the last couple 101 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: of days they weren't bringing any witnesses on the stand, 102 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: so there was zero expectation that Combs was going to 103 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: but we at least got to hear him formally tell 104 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: the judge that and why and how he came to 105 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 3: that decision. 106 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they always want them to know that they have 107 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: to tell the judge, and the judge has to be 108 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: satisfied because you don't want this issue on appeal. Frankly, 109 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: like you saying, definitely, I'm making this decision, making it 110 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: on my own. I do not want to testify in 111 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: my own defense. Look After he says that the prosecute 112 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: and again this what they call summary witnesses. These are 113 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: not necessarily for one side or the other, but they're 114 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: essentially just to go through notes and to go through 115 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: data for the jury and help them piece connect the dots. 116 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: As you say, So, this is supposed to be a 117 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 2: boring witness for a lot of ways. This dude was 118 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: on from Friday through this afternoon early almost to the afternoon. 119 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: He turned out to be very important, And I think 120 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: this ended up being a defense witness, did it not, Yes, So. 121 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: That's what I believe was going on. So yes, the 122 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: defense didn't technically call any witnesses, but this Homeland Security 123 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 3: special agent ended up being a conduit by which the 124 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: defense was able to present texts and videos, and so 125 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 3: they were in a way able to present its case 126 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: through this prosecution witness, which is not what I don't 127 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: think any of us expected at least. So, yes, he 128 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 3: was only supposed to be on the stand for a while. 129 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 3: He was on the stand for three days and much 130 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: longer today, as you pointed out, than he was expected to. 131 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 3: I believe the defense told the court they thought they'd 132 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: need about an hour and change with him. He was 133 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: up for what three hours made me more? 134 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he ended up being very important. I think those. 135 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: We've obviously kept up with every single day of the 136 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: trial actually now to think about it, but some of 137 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: the evidence, now, I guess some of the text messages 138 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: he was able to introduce, or the defense was able 139 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: to introduce through him, they paint a picture of almost loving, 140 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: normal boyfriend girlfriend relationships. They paint a picture of women 141 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: who are enthusiastic and we use the word earlier giddy. 142 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: I think some of these text messages hit harder than 143 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: a lot of previous ones. We've seen, and that's why 144 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: this witness ended up being so valuable, possibly for the event. 145 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: And you know, whoever goes last. 146 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong, but I would think leaves a bigger 147 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: impression because it's the freshest on your mind. It's the 148 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: thing that's closest to the decision you're going to end 149 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 3: up coming to, just before you deliberate. This is the 150 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 3: last bit of evidence you're hearing, so it tends to 151 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: have a lot of weight. And yeah, we heard texts 152 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: where we saw loving, consensual relationships, but we also saw 153 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: explicit texts that were describing sexual acts, but consensual sexual acts. 154 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: So those were two very important things. 155 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: Not only did he have a loving, softer side, but 156 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: it very much seemed through these. 157 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 4: Techs that both Cassie and. 158 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: Jane were, as you say, enthusiastically participating in explicit sexual acts. 159 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: And they said so through their texts, through their own words, 160 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: through their own written words in real time. 161 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: That's powerful that they are initiating. There was not some 162 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: they're not being coursed, they're not being right. They initiate 163 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff. And look, the defense did 164 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: its job. 165 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: This is what they're supposed to do. Put a little 166 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: bit of doubt. That's all you need. Reasonable doubts. 167 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: Yes, that what they say did the prosecution prove its 168 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: case beyond a reasonable doubt. Look, all we could do 169 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: is report on it from here and read transcripts in 170 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: the courtroom. I don't know, piece by piece listening to 171 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: every single bit of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. Hibar Yeah. 172 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: One of the reporters in the courtroom pointed out this 173 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: text message that the defense was able to talk about 174 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: and present to the jury was a message from Cassie 175 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: even Too or Fine, who told Diddy in a text 176 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen, you you are my best friend, and 177 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: she said that there was no one that she. 178 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 4: Loves more than him. 179 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: That's hard to imagine that you would write a text 180 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: to someone like that you are my best friend in 181 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: a way that's even more powerful than any of this 182 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: sexually explicit acts, or that I love you. 183 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 4: I love you is. 184 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: Because that's mutual admiration. That's that's a deeper bond in 185 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: a way. I just thought that was really powerful. 186 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: You know, I hadn't thought about it the way you're 187 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: speaking of it now. I think a lot of people 188 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 2: can relate to what those words mean, and it's tough 189 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: to balance to that with this is a woman who 190 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: is being, according to the prosecution, almost held hostage by 191 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: this man because of threats of violence, because of threats 192 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 2: of taking away rent, because the threats of her career. 193 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: That paints a much different. 194 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: Picture, right, Because if someone is obsessed with someone or 195 00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: or sexually obsessed with someone, it might create a different 196 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 3: in a relationship. But a best friend sounds like a mutual, consensual, loving, friendly, 197 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: respectable relationship. 198 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 4: It's it's different than. 199 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: Some of these explicit texts we see, and that for me, 200 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 3: that had a lot of. 201 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 4: Weight to it. 202 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: You know, we were questioning why it seems amazing. It's 203 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: remarkable that the defense, after all this and everything that's 204 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: on the line, that they would not present any witnesses, 205 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 2: but having is weird. I just noticed it now that 206 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: over the past several days, all we've been talking about 207 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: as the prosecution is putting on. 208 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: Their case is the defense. 209 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 2: Ye, because on they are putting on their case, they 210 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: exactly have been doing that, and they've been making their 211 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: points and they have been making some headway and having 212 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: more Perry Mason and courtroom moments than we're used to. 213 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: They are highlighting, and they have an highlighting over the 214 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: past several days, but even specifically yesterday and today, massive 215 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 3: inconsistencies by the prosecution's star witnesses. And that's with all 216 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: of these loving kind texts. They just fly in the 217 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: face of the direct testimony we heard from those two women. 218 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: And these texts are irrefutable. Even the prosecution had to 219 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 3: acknowledge their authenticity. These are real texts that happened from 220 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: these women. 221 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 2: So this is standard. They asked for an acquittal. That 222 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: was the other big yes moment today. It's called it 223 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: rule twenty nine I believe it's called a rule twenty 224 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: nine motion. 225 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: This is standard. 226 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: So they go through and you kind of get a 227 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: little insight into what their defense strategy is, what their 228 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: closing argument might be, and what they think a winning 229 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: strategy has been. But they laid out several things and 230 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: a key part of it was saying that domestic violence 231 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: is not sex trafficking. Yep, like we are copying to Yep, 232 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: he absolutely put his hands on that woman. That is 233 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: not him being violent forcing her to have sex, which 234 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: apparently is a key to proving sex trafficking. 235 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: It has to be the violence. That is a threat, and. 236 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: They laid that out today as a part of the 237 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: motion to say, hey, the prosecution hasn't even made its case. 238 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: We don't even need to put a case on Absolutely. 239 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: They also tried to dismantle the prosecution's claims that did 240 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 3: He was participating in racketeering acts. They were trying to 241 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: or at least they presented to the court that there 242 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: was zero evidence or they failed to show evidence the 243 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: prosecution did that did He tried to bribe anyone surrounding 244 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: that hotel attack, that video that we saw, So I 245 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: don't know because they said there was no police involvement 246 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 3: because Cassie venture Fine didn't want any police involved, and 247 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: no charges were So they're trying to go through each 248 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: one of these charges against Didty and saying the prosecution 249 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: did not prove those points. 250 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: You just made the key you. 251 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: Just started with. I'm sorry, I'm racking my brain now. Yes, folks, 252 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 2: we have been up a long time. You just started 253 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: with the racketeering as what you were talking about it hearing. Okay, 254 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 2: this is maybe one of the biggest points that they made. 255 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: They prove that Diddy and. 256 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: Others he tried to hide the freak offs from other 257 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: staff members. He tried to keep it a secret from 258 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: some people. He tried to say, hey, wait till the 259 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: coast is clear before you bring mister whoever cowboy. 260 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: In to the room. 261 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 2: If you do that, then that means you are not 262 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 2: running a criminal enterprise in which you have fellow criminals 263 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 2: doing your bidding, because you're actually trying to keep what 264 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 2: you're doing from them. 265 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: That is a big, big. 266 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: Point about running a criminal enterprise racketeering. He is not 267 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: a mob boss in this argument from the defense, because 268 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: what does a mob boss do. Everybody on the lower 269 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: level on the streets know what bidding they're doing. They're 270 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: doing the criminal bidding for the guy, and the money's 271 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: going right. It's not that kind of thing. They proved 272 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: through text messages. He was trying to not involve people. 273 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: What did the defence attorney say, they did Errand's make 274 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 2: travel arrangements, They had anything to do with what went 275 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 2: on with him his girlfriends, and. 276 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 4: They acknowledged like, yes, did. 277 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 3: He may have created some difficult, even abusive working conditions, 278 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: grueling working conditions. 279 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 4: Staffers had little sleep. 280 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: They had to do his bidding at all hours of 281 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: the night, with very little notice. But they point out 282 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: they all could have left, and the reason why they 283 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: did all of these things was not because of any 284 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: threat or coercion or anything illegal. It was because they 285 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 3: didn't want to lose their jobs. Much simpler, period, And 286 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: that actually makes sense what they were saying, at least, 287 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 3: what the defense was presenting today was kind of common sense. 288 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: And the dismantle is the best way. They really did 289 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: an effective job of trying to dismantle what the prosecution says. 290 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: They've already proved well in. 291 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: A simplistic way, in a way we can all digest. 292 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 2: That makes sense to me. Yes, I've done. Who hasn't 293 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: done something you didn't want to do because you want 294 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 2: to hold on. 295 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: To your job. 296 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: Correct, I'm saying it didn't have to be illegal. Hell, 297 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: I don't even want to go get your coffee that 298 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: kind of a thing. It's not my job. I'm a 299 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: junior partner here. Everybody has. But they put on their case. 300 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: They did not put on a case, but they put 301 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: one on as the prosecution was still having their own 302 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: witnesses up there. So this is what they're going into 303 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: now robes tomorrow. Wait, the timeline now is getting adjusted. 304 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: Yes, so now, because this final witness for the prosecution 305 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: went longer than expected, and I don't know how this 306 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: shifts anything too much. The judge asked the jurors to 307 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: return on Thursday at nine am. But the issue now 308 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: is how long it's going to take and when they're 309 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: actually going to be able to start their closing arguments. 310 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: They think closing arguments now might bleed over into Friday, 311 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: and so now there was the suggestion that the jury 312 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: might not even begin deliberating until Monday, possibly late Friday, 313 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: but possibly they won't even start until Monday. 314 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so we can probably rest assured we're not getting 315 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: a verdict this week. 316 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 4: I think that's highly likely and very probable. 317 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: I wonder how long, I don't think. I don't think. 318 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: I feel completely confident. The conference tomorrow for the jury 319 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: instructions is or is not an open court. 320 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: We're not sure yet, and so obviously we're hoping it is. 321 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: So the jury will for sure not be present for that, obviously, 322 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: because they're discussing what they tell the jurors and what 323 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 3: the language is that they use for the jurors to 324 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: go and start their deliberation, if it's open quart or not. 325 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: But I don't know if reporters will be allowed, if 326 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: the public will be allowed into the courtroom to hear that. 327 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 4: I would think that they would be. 328 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: I mean it would just the whole point of a 329 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: court is to have it be transparent, to have it 330 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: be something that the public can witness and watch and 331 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: know that it's done ethically and correctly. 332 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 4: So it would fly in the face. 333 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: I mean, there are certain things obviously they don't want 334 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: to get out. They'll take a taken aside and the 335 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: judge's chambers or approach the bench that they don't want 336 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: people to know or hear. But in terms of getting 337 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: the jurors instructions, I'm trying to remember in other court 338 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: cases that we have covered, whether or not we've been 339 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: privy to that discussion and that conversation. 340 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: I think so right now, I would say, yes, they're 341 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: not coming back until noon tomorrow, so there are, but 342 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: they all are all expected to be there tomorrow now, hope. 343 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't think robes haven't seen. 344 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: Anywhere either that they expect the charge conference to go 345 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: any longer than tomorrow. I don't think that's going to 346 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: bleed into Thursday, right, They have to get that right. 347 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: I think they have to get that wrapped up. 348 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: I mean, who knows anything's possible, But I just looked 349 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 3: it up and it says generally jury instructions are not 350 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 3: open to the public during the deliberation process, but they 351 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: are often part of the public court record after the trial. 352 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: So I knew there had to be transparency. They're just 353 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: not going to be transparent in real time after the fact. 354 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: If people want to go and look and see how 355 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 3: do they come to the decision to tell the jurors X, Y, 356 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: and Z, that will be. 357 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 4: Made public after the fact. And so. 358 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: The actual deliberations, including the instructions right by the judge. 359 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: Obviously you know the jury deliberations are private, but that's 360 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: to protect the integrity of the process. 361 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 5: So the jury instructions we'll see and those have been 362 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 5: and if they say what they need four hours each 363 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 5: for closing arguments on for Thursday. 364 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 2: So even if we start at nine in the morning, 365 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 2: whoever starts first is going to go in least until 366 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 2: after lunch, and then whoever's after that is going to 367 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: go through the rest of the day. So then you 368 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: can expect that the next day they're going to start 369 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: instructions to the jury. They do do this in open court, 370 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: and he reads it word for word to them. They 371 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: get it to go back. I mean, they have the 372 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: instructures to go back with him a booklet, but he 373 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 2: reads every line. This takes a long time. Yeah, from 374 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: my experience. 375 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: So will it take a full day? Will it take 376 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: a half a day? That? I don't know. 377 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's anyone's guess. Something else that was We're told 378 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: it's standard. But I thought it was kind of interesting 379 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: that the prosecution, once the defense rested today, they decided 380 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 3: not to present a rebuttal case, which they're allowed to do. 381 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: They made the decision not to, So I don't know 382 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: how unusual that is, or if that's them trying to 383 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: show their own moment of confidence to reprove dark case. 384 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: They had nothing to but because they didn't present much 385 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: of anything. A few text messages that they acknowledge, yep, 386 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 2: that was part of the actual record. 387 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: I mean, ye, I don't know if there was much to. 388 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 3: Rebut that is that is actually fair? So I mean 389 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 3: who knows. But yes, everything that happened today was what 390 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 3: we were expecting to happen, including the defense asking for 391 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 3: that acquittal and the judge saying that he will consider 392 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: making a ruling on it, but not making a ruling 393 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: on it. That's also very standard, very common. I don't 394 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 3: know if he ends up actually having to make a 395 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 3: ruling on it, having to declare I am denying your 396 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: request for an acquittal. I'm guessing that has to happen. 397 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: Perhaps tomorrow he will, but it seems strang I'm told 398 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: that's common for them to do that, but I was 399 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: still it seemed odd to me, like, of course, he's 400 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: not gonna do an acquittal. It's just they have to ask. 401 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: The judge then denies. It's part of all these major trials. 402 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: I just didn't know why I didn't do it on 403 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 2: the spot. But I think I read somewhere from one 404 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 2: of the reporters that it's also common for the judge 405 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: to handle it this way, just to kind of punt 406 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: it to it. 407 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 4: Let me think about it. 408 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 3: It's like when you're a parent and your kid asks 409 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 3: you for something and you know you're not gonna let 410 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: them do it, but you just don't want to cause 411 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: a scene right there, and you say, I'll let you 412 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: know later, but you already know you're going to say, now, 413 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: you know what we. 414 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: Can talk about this when we get home, exactly. 415 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: I feel like that's basically what. 416 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: Happened today with the judge's decision. He's he already knows 417 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: what he's going to say, which is, yeah, we're gonna 418 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 3: give this to the jury. 419 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: Can you imagine. 420 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: I don't know that's obviously that's not gonna happen, But 421 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 2: just there's been I'm waiting for something else, right, I'm 422 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: waiting for another shoot to drop. I'm waiting for another 423 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 2: shocking moment. I'm waiting for something to become a headline 424 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: we weren't expecting. Don't know what that'll be, but I 425 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: just it's been that kind of trial. 426 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 3: It certainly has almost every day, but certainly at least 427 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: once a week we get something that's actually we're not 428 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: just exaggerating, jaw dropping. I mean, that's been the case, 429 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: it seems, at least from the beginning, at least something 430 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: each and every time. 431 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 2: Right, But thirty four witnesses down and just a few 432 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: more days to go before the jury starts deliberating folks. 433 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: In this trial. 434 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: We will continue to keep you updated, obviously well check 435 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: back in with our Diddy update tomorrow. Always you can 436 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: catch us on morning run with your news headlines. But 437 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: for now I am TJ. Holmes and for Amy Robot. 438 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: We always appreciate you running with us. No, we're not 439 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 2: running today. This isn't run, This is the ditty run. 440 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 4: Just listening to us, This is the morning receipt. 441 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you're tired. Did we mentioned you didn't 442 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 3: sleep last night at all? Zero on your Aura score, 443 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: so yes, thanks for listening. Everyone, have a great one.