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Speaker 3: And the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one

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Speaker 1: drink champions. Drink up, motherfuck? What it good? Be hoping

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Speaker 3: And today I'm excited to introduce.

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Speaker 1: Hip Hop King.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to all of this, the man started

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Speaker 3: out as a DJ. A lot of people don't understand

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Speaker 3: that he was DJ vlat To Butcher. At one point

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Speaker 3: he was heavy on the mixtapes. He's a media mogul.

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Speaker 3: He has changed the way hip hop has been looked at.

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Speaker 3: He's single handedly saw Tupac's murder. He did what the

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Speaker 3: He brung it to the forefront. He made hip hop

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Speaker 3: interviews change. To this day, there's people who still ask me, didn't.

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Speaker 1: You go through the door? Because I did it on

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Speaker 1: his interview, went to the door in his interview. No,

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Speaker 1: I talked about it, talked about it. He's listened to me.

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Speaker 3: When I tell you, if you need to get hot,

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Speaker 1: Be on the streets.

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Speaker 3: You stand in front of his cameras, he's gonna have

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Speaker 3: he's gonna ask you the questions that you need to

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Speaker 3: don't know who the fuck we're talking.

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Speaker 1: About, hip hop mogul one only.

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Speaker 3: Now for people who's just tuning in DJ Vlad is

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Speaker 3: one thing. But then black TV is a separate entity, correct,

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Speaker 3: right would you just rap it like that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Okay, So tell us I mean Blad TV is

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Speaker 4: something I started in two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh. I couldn't think of a better name, so

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Speaker 4: And uh yeah, man, sixteen years later, still doing it daily.

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Speaker 3: Now, when you say we started blat TV at that point,

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Speaker 1: kind of like replaced the mixtape called Slash Around.

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Speaker 4: World Star was definitely around modeled the news site kind

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, was it problem with world saw now?

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Speaker 4: I mean me and Q kind of have had a

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Speaker 4: He even went with me to I think Bahrain, you

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Speaker 1: But then you know, I went out to Arizona.

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Speaker 4: Spent the night at his house, you know, his guest room, Uh,

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Speaker 3: Very very humble guy, very humble guy. Or did you

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you when I got unscared of put

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Speaker 1: You should be even more scared. He was saving he

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Speaker 4: But you gotta understand, like you just I'm kind of

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Speaker 4: I'm a Russian kid named Vlad. I didn't have an

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Speaker 4: So it was just like a lot of like people,

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Speaker 4: As a third grader, you know, you don't really know

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Speaker 4: And I just would go home, watch your own TV

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Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't think that it would get me

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Speaker 3: Loved, because at that time, hip hop was a fact.

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Speaker 4: You didn't know, you didn't know, and people were saying like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Right, But as a kid, you don't care about that.

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Speaker 1: You don't care. You're just doing That's what was every

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Speaker 3: You actually believe I actually believed that. Yeah, I agree

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Speaker 3: with you, Jamie. I took a drink when this chance. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I actually believed that. I truly believe. Listen, all of us,

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Speaker 3: right now, we'll be doing a version of it. I

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Speaker 3: be doing a version of it, because like, I can't

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Speaker 1: And so how did you get into mixtapes? All right?

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Speaker 4: So so the mixtapes it was, let me think. So

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Speaker 4: I went to school at UC Berkeley, right which is,

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Speaker 4: you know, right next to Oakland, And for the first

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Speaker 4: like the hieroglyphics A plus and Opio would just be

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Speaker 4: on Telegraph Ave and other underground rappers were sitting there

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Speaker 4: having ciphers on the corner for you and deep boxing,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh shit, like, here's real hip hop

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Speaker 4: in front of me. Because where I was growing up,

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Speaker 4: you know, in high school, yeah, a couple of kids

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Speaker 4: But here I am, and you know, these these kids

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Speaker 4: I was making beats, making little local demos. You know,

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Speaker 4: If I really wanted to take it seriously, I would

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Speaker 1: The mixtape epicenter was.

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Speaker 3: Okay, going too fast, Holmes, call me down. Sorry, That

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Speaker 1: For the longest of course.

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Speaker 3: But you being close to the bay, did you not

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Speaker 4: Because l A l A didn't have the mixtape scene. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Who's the rule in the mixtape scene DJ Clue before

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, those type of dudes were like the

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Speaker 4: Because I was, I started putting together. I started, you know,

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Speaker 4: It was actually a Cypress Hill mixtape called Soul Assassination.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's about you're knocking two birds out with

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Speaker 1: So also I was a big Cypress Hill fan, a

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Speaker 3: Oh so you wasn't down with them, you just dedicated

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Speaker 4: But no, I was such a fan of Cypress Hill

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Speaker 4: Okay, and my own website djvlad do I mean my

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Speaker 4: And before I knew it, people in like Sweden and

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Speaker 1: What year is that? Like? Early two thousand and.

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Speaker 4: Two thousand and one.

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Speaker 1: I mean you could look, but let me let me

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Speaker 3: So how hard was it You said you didn't think

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Speaker 1: Shout out to.

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Speaker 3: Joe because you're because these kids nowadays, they pressed one

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Speaker 4: I mean, shout out to my man Justo just.

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Speaker 1: Award. I'm sure you probably I got a couple of wars. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So so Justo of Justo's mixtape Awards. I reached out

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Speaker 4: was like, okay, let me check it out. Okay, you know,

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Speaker 4: I like yourself whatever, whatever, and I'm like, I'm thinking

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Speaker 4: Canal Street to make a Queen Brooklyn I smell everywhere

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Speaker 4: he's talking about, you know, meet up with these Africans, consignments,

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Speaker 2: That's because I did that cold call. I did it

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Speaker 2: on my own. What I'm not having any guidance now.

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Speaker 2: I me and my crew, we just went out there

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Speaker 1: I was lucky, man. He was a good dude. He

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Speaker 4: And from there it was like, I like, I got

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Speaker 4: that was dying on Coney Alan Boulevard and Dirty Harry

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Speaker 4: first Biggie Rap Phenomenon mixtape from from that Strip club

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Speaker 4: from you know, and then that mixtape got on MTV

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Speaker 4: But that was the first one that I actually people

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Speaker 4: and Harry were like, Yo, we should do a part two,

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Speaker 4: but do a Tupac one. We should do it with

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Speaker 4: who's another huge DJ, oh Eminem, DJ Mean Lantern. So

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Speaker 4: at a I think at a Dipset listening event, we

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Speaker 4: like why don't you work on this? Because he was

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Speaker 4: on it with us? And we'll do a Tupac mixtape,

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Speaker 4: but instead of just doing Blends, we'll get features from

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Speaker 4: other artists bus Aron's, Bounty, Killer Y Cleft, Alicia Keys.

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Speaker 1: On and on and on.

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Speaker 4: We just had these a cappellas with beats and guest

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Speaker 4: of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that was like wow, Like out.

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Speaker 4: Of all these guys that are super super talented, they

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Speaker 4: So it was just for me.

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Speaker 1: It was it was a how did you approach artists

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Speaker 4: We all had our relationships, man, I mean because because

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Speaker 1: At the time.

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Speaker 4: This was before you know, he called Jada Kiss and

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Speaker 4: Jada put him on speakerphone. So at that time everyone

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Speaker 1: I don't think gets on the phone since, yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 4: You can't get Green on the phone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so everyone was was flocking with him.

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Speaker 4: And then of course Dirty Harry, he was Alicia Keys's DJ.

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Speaker 4: on one of his early joints. They formed a relationship

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Speaker 4: and I'm I'm hustling, I'm networking, you know, I get

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Speaker 2: And now I imagine it would have been sorry to good,

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Speaker 4: Exactly because a lot of them were fans of the

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Speaker 2: Already had that we the second one was the one

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Speaker 1: The first one didn't have any features.

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Speaker 4: The second one had the real features, almost like a

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Speaker 4: It was great at the time, but I also realized

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Speaker 1: A career because it's bootleg right with it?

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Speaker 4: You know, you can't legally license it. You can't put

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Speaker 4: in a real store. Was Mama Pop stores. The Mama

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Speaker 3: You know, it was crazy when you guys were putting

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a fish. I didn't know it

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Speaker 2: I was getting season assists letters from every label that

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Speaker 1: But you didn't.

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Speaker 3: You didn't have a mic space back then when you

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Speaker 3: were saying that and blowing that up.

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Speaker 1: So I'm thinking this is legal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, drama actually got raided.

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Speaker 4: I was like, what fall that was when I stopped

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Speaker 1: Okay, I was watching that was the first week with

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 4: Here's when I was saying, is BMW get put on

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Speaker 4: am done. This is this is real enough for me,

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Speaker 4: you know, because I was already having to put it

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Speaker 1: Might be raid and like that, and because real money

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Speaker 1: was being made with these mixtapes for for young kids. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm an adult now for young kid at

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm blowing it up, but and

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Speaker 3: if I is, the one person that I saw getting

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Speaker 3: the MPV and just like that, in two weeks, the

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Speaker 3: MPV turned into a purple BMW and then like just

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Speaker 3: the cars just kept going and I saw it.

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Speaker 1: I never.

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Speaker 3: Felt like he owed me for me, like you know,

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Speaker 3: participating it. You know, I think the mixtapes helped us

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Speaker 1: Right, So.

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Speaker 3: I'm bouncing around a little bit, right, But I was

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Speaker 3: at a bar one night, Right, dude is drunk, He's

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Speaker 3: He doesn't know where he knows me from right. Two

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Speaker 3: people come They take a picture of me, guys just

443
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 3: sitting there.

444
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,440
Speaker 1: He's like, oh shit, I know I know you from now.

445
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 3: And then he gives me a five and he says,

446
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 3: I'm a Navy seal.

447
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 1: Off top.

448
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 3: I don't how the fuck can you prove your navy

449
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:45,399
Speaker 3: sale or not?

450
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 1: Right?

451
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 3: This guy's telling me all type of dramatic crazy shit.

452
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 3: One I'm thinking it can be true. Then on the

453
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 3: other side, I'm like, this gotta be like this guy

454
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 3: throwing me off. I just met him in bar. But

455
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,120
Speaker 3: then I thought about it. If you are on Navy seal,

456
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 3: you went through all of this ship. Now you're retired,

457
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 3: sometimes you want to talk about these war stories that

458
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 3: you've been through.

459
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 1: That you survived, because not all veterans. I'm gonna make

460
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: it make sense now. The face that that guy had

461
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 1: is the.

462
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 3: Only face I've ever seen is until I.

463
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 1: Seen kevd Am. I making sense because.

464
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 3: If you do something that's so heroic, like you've seen this.

465
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: This is something on.

466
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 3: Netflix where this guy kidnapped this girl and then they

467
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 3: give somebody else the credit for it. And the guy

468
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 3: has told me he's like, you know what, it was

469
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 3: me and I kind of trying to make it all

470
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 3: make sense. I kind of felt like that's what happened

471
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 3: with KVD, is like he kind of wanted to tell

472
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 3: his story, even he wrote.

473
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: A book and people even paid attention to it.

474
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 3: But on your platform, which is huge, you don't force

475
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 3: people on your platform.

476
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: There's clearly cameras there. I can attest to that.

477
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's clearly camerasy like this cameras.

478
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: Here wearing a wire.

479
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 4: Actually you're wearing you put it down your own shirt.

480
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's let's clarify people that don't know the story.

481
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 3: Right, you're into context. So are you reaching out the KPD?

482
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 3: Did you read this book?

483
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: How did this? How did this work?

484
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 4: Well before the KVD interview, Greg Kating, who was the

485
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 4: l A p D officer, ye got you know, basically

486
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 4: gave KFD a profer agreement.

487
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: What a profer?

488
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 4: Okay, so KFD and that's the one who who was

489
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 4: hired who said okay, yeah, so so so KFD. Word

490
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 4: was already out there that he was in the car

491
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 4: that killed Tupac, right.

492
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I even knew that.

493
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 4: So so Greg Kating, who was on I believe the

494
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 4: Biggie Task Force, but was kind of researching the whole,

495
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 4: the whole Biggie tupac, you know, whether there's some connection

496
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 4: or not.

497
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: He was following.

498
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 4: He started investigating KIFD, and he found that that Kify

499
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 4: had a whole PCP operation going and considering the priors

500
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 4: and the amount of PCP, Kify would have probably done

501
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 4: twenty five years to life.

502
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: Right.

503
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 4: So what they did was they went to Keifi's house

504
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 4: and they said, look, we know about your operation. We

505
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 4: have all our ducks in a row, but come in

506
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 4: to talk with us and we'll offer you some sort

507
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 4: of deal.

508
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 3: And this is after the Tubloc murder, correct, this.

509
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 4: Is after yeah, years after the two'clock murder continues. So

510
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 4: Keefy met up with them and they secretly recorded him

511
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 4: and they basically said, listen a profit agreement.

512
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: It's also called queen for a day.

513
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,959
Speaker 4: It means that you tell me, you tell me about

514
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 4: all these crimes I'm asking you about, and if you

515
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,959
Speaker 4: answer me truthfully, you don't lie. And I know some

516
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 4: of the answers already. Everything you say, we can't turn

517
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 4: around and use it against you.

518
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: In that moment, in.

519
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 4: That moment on that day, and in exchange all these

520
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 4: other charges you're facing, we'll throw him out the window.

521
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 4: So in exchange for him telling the whole story about

522
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 4: the Tupac murder, they threw out his PCP case. Okay,

523
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 4: So essentially they had all this information and they try

524
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 4: to use him as an informant. They try to send

525
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: him in New York to set up Eric Bonzit. This

526
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 4: is way prior, right, all this happened. They you know,

527
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 4: they weren't able to implicate other people in it whatever else.

528
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 4: But since they had the profit deal and Keify did

529
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 4: what he was supposed to do, they dropped the PCP

530
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 4: case and it was over. Ultimately, the Biggie investigation, the

531
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 4: lawsuit that Valletta filed, end up getting dropped. You know,

532
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 4: Las Vegas didn't pick up the evidence from Greg Cating

533
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 4: to try to implicate Keify and the murder.

534
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: At that time.

535
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 4: Everything got dropped, Everything got dismantled. Greg Cating retired and

536
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 4: after he retired, he had some of that audio footage

537
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 4: and he told, if I'm going to put this out

538
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 4: and I'm going to write a book and put out

539
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 4: a documentary.

540
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: Or whatever else.

541
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 4: So the audio of Keify confessing to his role in

542
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 4: the Tupac murder and implicating his nephew Orlando Anderson got

543
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 4: released and it was floating around. I knew someone who

544
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 4: knew Keify d They connected me with them, and he

545
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 4: had just written that book. So I had a copy

546
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 4: of the book and I was talking to.

547
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: The writer because you've got two interviews with him.

548
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, too, but I'll talk about the first one.

549
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 4: So essentially I got a copy of the book as

550
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 4: it was being released. He agreed to do the interview.

551
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 4: You know, I paid him a little bit of money

552
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 4: for it, and the interview essentially follows the book from

553
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 4: beginning to end.

554
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: But also since I know.

555
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 4: The whole thing, read the book. I read the book, absolutely,

556
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 4: I read the book. And I also had interviews from

557
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 4: other people that were sort of in the know and related.

558
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 4: You know, the outlaws, you know Edie, I mean, who

559
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 4: was in the car behind Tupac, Chris Carrol who was

560
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 4: the first responder, and of course Greg Cating, and then

561
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 4: you know the Compton Pde cops that are also investigating it.

562
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 4: And I'm so I basically pieced together the whole Storian

563
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: and he basically said the whole thing. He basically reiterated

564
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 4: what he said in the book.

565
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: But all right, but you're not thinking that of it.

566
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 3: You're thinking like, all right, this is the book. Yeah,

567
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 3: you do the first interview, Yeah, it's Viraul. Everyone is like, wow, yeah,

568
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 3: this is the first time we kind of see like

569
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 3: a murderer kind of not emit, but a murderer on camera,

570
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: like kind of like. And then this is a this

571
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 3: is a national excuse me, a worldwide Yeah, no one

572
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: thinks nothing of it.

573
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: The first interview. Yeah, well people thought a lot of it.

574
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 4: I mean, you know what I mean, you know what

575
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 4: I meant was, but nothing happens to like.

576
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like there's no authorities alerted, there's no nothing.

577
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 3: Everyone that goes under the cover. So how did how

578
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: did the second interview come about?

579
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 4: Well, between that first interview and the second interview, he

580
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 4: does a bunch of other interviews, right, he does like

581
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 4: cam compone News, and he does this other platform.

582
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 1: He does this platform.

583
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 4: So he's basically telling the story over and over again

584
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 4: and putting in more details.

585
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: He's like making it more graphic.

586
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 4: He's saying Tupac was break dancing when he got shot,

587
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 4: trying to get in the back and you know, in

588
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: the back seed and it it got more graphic, you know,

589
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 4: it got a little more morbid, you know what I mean.

590
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: So he's doing it did probably.

591
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: Even one time part of me. Remember what you're saying.

592
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: He said that, Mike Tyson said something. He was like, yeah,

593
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 3: man till Mike Tyson.

594
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, well I brought that up in the Mike

595
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 4: Tyson interview, you know what I'm saying. Mike Tyson was like, yeah,

596
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 4: that story sounds right, and I wish I had five

597
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 4: minutes with this guy, you know, in the room. And

598
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 4: he was like, yeah, you know, Mike Tyson, need to

599
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 4: be careful. I'm a gangster boxer, you.

600
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

601
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 4: But you know, Keithy's living his life. He's living in Vegas,

602
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 4: which is where the murder occurred.

603
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: And you know it's weird. Yeah, that's that's.

604
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: Because he was he living in Vegas. I don't know

605
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: if you noticed or that was he living in Vegas

606
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 3: prior to that.

607
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 4: I believe he was living in Vegas for a while.

608
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 4: I mean, at the time the murder occurred, he was

609
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 4: from la from Content.

610
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 3: Okay, So I remember I'm saying they drove back together.

611
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he was a south Side crypt so they

612
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 4: went back to Compton. But yeah, I don't know how

613
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: long he's been living in Vegas, but yeah, he's been

614
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 4: living in Vegas.

615
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: For a while.

616
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so boom, So this second interview comes up. Yeah,

617
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: how do you approach this different from the first interview?

618
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: I mean, that's always challenging. Did you know he was

619
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: going to give you more?

620
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 4: I mean, there really wasn't that much more. It was

621
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 4: kind of a fill in the blanks on certain stories.

622
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 4: It was kind of a reaction to this person saying

623
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: things about I mean, really, the first interview was the real,

624
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 4: you know, storyline. The second one just had a few

625
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 4: pieces here and there, not not really a lot.

626
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: You know.

627
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: Of course people reacted to it because it's me and

628
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: kif D, But really it's that first interview that told

629
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 4: the story from essentially when he was born, to his

630
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 4: relationship with Sugar, him being a South Side crip, his

631
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 4: drug dealing days, his relationship with his nephew Orlando, what

632
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 4: you know, his interactions with Puffy and Biggie, what led

633
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 4: up to them going to Vegas, what happened after Orlando

634
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: got jumped to the actual his role in the car

635
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: and the shooting and then going back, you know, and

636
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 4: then the blood bat that happened in Compton because of.

637
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 1: The murder and all that.

638
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 4: So it kind of told the whole story from beginning

639
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 4: to end in a visual format.

640
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: What's you shocked when you heard Sug say I don't

641
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: want him to go to jail.

642
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 4: No, but that's Sugar. Sugar doesn't cooperate. Yeah, so that's Sugar.

643
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 4: Shug he did, yeah, he he did.

644
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: Well.

645
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 4: He also sued Acon's bodyguards, that's true.

646
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: He was going to press charges.

647
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: But I think Shug picks and picks and chooses, you

648
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: know what I mean, I don't you know, he didn't

649
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: cooperate with the police, you know, and and like for example,

650
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 4: like the great Katings of the world feel that because

651
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 4: Sugar is really the only witness that actually saw, you know,

652
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 4: because because Keithy said that him and Sug locked eyes.

653
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 4: Well they've known each other since football, played football together,

654
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: and they locked eyes. So Sugar could have been like,

655
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 4: here's who did it. Everyone's still alive in the car

656
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 4: at the time. He could have cooperated and everyone would

657
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: have went to prison. But he did it. So he

658
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: still is not so it is what it is. You

659
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 4: had a relationship with Sugar, never met him, never met him,

660
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 4: been in the same room with him. But the thing

661
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: with Sug is that everyone I know that's dealt with

662
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 4: Sugar has always had a negative story.

663
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: It's always ended badly. You know, I'm like, why why

664
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: would I bother?

665
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm fifty to fifty.

666
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people who swear by her. You

667
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: have heard a lot of positive like.

668
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: I kid you not. I don't know reputable, real people

669
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: that say.

670
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: I don't know a single human being that said that

671
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 4: they have dealt with Sug and it's worked out at

672
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 4: the end, Okay.

673
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: Kat Williams, darru T, K Kirkley.

674
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: No, him, Him and TK got into it, Okay, Okay, him.

675
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 4: TK got into it. Okay, But the other ones that

676
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 4: don't know, Okay, Yeah, you're right.

677
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: I swear to God like and oh my, every time

678
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: I seen to him, he's been a gentleman.

679
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I'm lucky.

680
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm being overly cautious, right, but you know, sometimes

681
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 4: it pays to be overly cautious.

682
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: Is this somebody that you was?

683
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: I don't bounce it around, but it's just somebody that

684
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: you went to meet in this industry and you met him.

685
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: He was like, fuck them. I'm sure's a lot of people. Yeah,

686
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: I got a lot too.

687
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: Not not really so much of a fuck them. You know,

688
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 4: you don't vibe with certain people, you know what I mean?

689
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 4: For whatever reason, the interview doesn't go corner. You know,

690
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 4: when I interviewed Lil Wayne, we didn't. It wasn't a

691
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 4: good interview. This was early on this during my DVD days.

692
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: It was just like he just wasn't feeling me. No

693
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 4: matter what I asked him, I got a one word answer.

694
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: I walked away feeling like you know, you know what

695
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 4: it's like when you when you don't get the interview

696
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: you were hoping to get over someone you admire, You

697
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,239
Speaker 4: just walk away feeling kind of a little off. So,

698
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, me and Wayne did didn't vibe. And

699
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 4: that's life. It's not like fu him. I don't feel

700
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: that way.

701
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: It's just to go.

702
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: He wasn't feeling me, and it is what it is.

703
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, what's the method of your interviews? Right?

704
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: See, one thing I want to give.

705
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: I want to give this.

706
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: The method somewhat to our interviews. Is Leo Cohne used

707
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: to when I used to go see Leo Cohness, he

708
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 3: wouldn't take a meet in nowhere else unless you came

709
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: to him. He wanted to be the man when you

710
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: walked in the room. So the thing about it is

711
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: one thing that we learned early on.

712
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: I believe it was our.

713
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: French Montana t I in the studio Rocky session.

714
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: We went to their studio.

715
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: And we realized we couldn't tell people to shut up.

716
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: We couldn't tell people like move this way, get out

717
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: the camera, because we're actually in someone else's.

718
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: Studio, right, We had no control you understand the environment.

719
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, So one of our tricks is like, yo, you

720
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 3: know what, no matter what, they have to come to

721
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: us now, like they got to come to us, be

722
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: in our environment, whether it's it's the comfortability they have

723
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: with us or the uncomfortability. What is one of the

724
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 3: things that you have to do if it is.

725
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: A lad interview, I have to prepare, Okay, I have

726
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 4: to spend a long time research. Like if I get

727
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: a last minute call, I mean, of course, you know

728
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 4: you're gonna make exceptions, you know, if Eminem calls me

729
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: right now that I want to meet right now. This

730
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 4: is your only opportunity. Of course, I'm gonna do whatever

731
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 4: to make that happen. But Kelly, why many of you

732
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 4: dor Kelly over the phone in jail? Okay, but right

733
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 4: now all Kelly got free. You're going You're going to

734
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 4: Chicago to see him.

735
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go to I got a drink.

736
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 4: But but in general, it's it's the research, you know,

737
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 4: and a lot of times, you know, Vlad is the

738
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 4: FEDS is because there's so much research that goes into

739
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 4: what we do. Like for example, there's that famous Little

740
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 4: Baby interview where he was.

741
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: Like, how you know that?

742
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 4: And it's like, well, I've watched all your other interviews

743
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 4: and there's bit.

744
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: Some pieces I pick out of it.

745
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 4: You know how it is you've done so many interview

746
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 4: you don't remember everything you said, and then someone brings.

747
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: Something up and you're like, did I say that? How

748
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: do you know that? But it's the research.

749
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 4: And I felt like when I got into hip hop media,

750
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: I just felt that all the interviewers at the time

751
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about right now, I'm just talking about

752
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 4: at the time, like they all sucked. It was all

753
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 4: like promo it was like a pr run. It was like, hey,

754
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: let me tell them how great you are. There's a

755
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 4: new album by and do you walk away with nothing?

756
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 4: But my thing was like, Yo, I'm going to research.

757
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 4: I'm going you know, like when people talk in the barbershop.

758
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 4: I'm asking those type of questions, the questions people really

759
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 4: want to ask, the uncomfortable questions that the hard questions.

760
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 4: So I research, IW research, I research. I watch every

761
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 4: other interview they've done. If they have a book, I'll

762
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 4: read the book. If we know some people in common,

763
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 4: I'll call those people up and I'll have conversations with them,

764
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: you know. And then plus you know, like I'm fifty now,

765
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 4: I've been around since hip hop was born, you know

766
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: what I mean, So I have it fifty yeah, you know.

767
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 4: So it's kind of like I know, as being like

768
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 4: a lifetime hip hop fan, I know everything that happened

769
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 4: in hip hop to a certain you know, every source magazine,

770
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 4: every double cell magazine. I read everyone cover to cover,

771
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 4: So I know a lot of stuff just in my

772
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 4: memory banks I.

773
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: Could pull out.

774
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 4: So that's you know, the answer to your question is research.

775
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 4: I have to have a lot of research, and that's

776
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 4: what I think makes my interviews a little different than

777
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 4: other people's.

778
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 3: And one thing about you, like I would say seventy

779
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: five percent of your guests, if they make it appearance

780
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: and it's a success, you have them back on right.

781
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: You have the mist repeated guests. It's the core of

782
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: our business man. It's the core.

783
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: And you know people like to you know, oh this

784
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 4: person again.

785
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: But you know.

786
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 4: When it comes to interviews, and you know, we don't

787
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 4: have deals with other companies, We don't have sponsorship deals.

788
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 4: We don't have TVD where it's like we get some

789
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 4: huge check and we just push it and whatever happens.

790
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 4: Not like our stuff is based on the views.

791
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: You know.

792
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 4: You know how people say, oh, I'm going to clip up.

793
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 4: You know, I'm going to do a clip on this interview.

794
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 4: We were doing clips in two thousand and eight. You

795
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 4: know when the idea in the beginning was like, if

796
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 4: I have an hour and a half interview, I'm going

797
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: to do five ten minute clips every day every day,

798
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: and you know someone else is going to do it,

799
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 4: I might as well do it. You know a lot

800
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 4: of really incredible parts of an interview gets buried in

801
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 4: an hour and a half, and no one will ever

802
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 4: see it. My thing was like every important part, we're

803
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 4: going to put it out. So that's the whole premise

804
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 4: of it. And this is kind of how we put

805
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 4: the whole thing together. But a lot of it is,

806
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 4: like I said, it's just based on the research of it.

807
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: One point, me and you speak all the time, right yeah.

808
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: And I remember you said, man, that's just rappers.

809
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 3: Like like someone like we was talking and it's personal

810
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 3: this person and someone saying like, oh, and I'm like, nah, glad,

811
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: let me explaining to you it's not really rappers.

812
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: Tell me the premise.

813
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 3: We were talking about somebody that we both had in common,

814
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 3: like a friend. I believe he was on thirty sixth

815
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: Street or what office was on thirties, so.

816
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: Were we work At one point I think, okay.

817
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: And you were speaking.

818
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: He was just like, hey, man, your boy didn't show up. Man,

819
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 3: these guys goddamn rappers. And I remember me saying, you know, man,

820
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: don't label it all rappers. It's just certain times it's

821
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: certain individuals who are fucked up individuals who like.

822
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: If a DJ, what DJ don't show up?

823
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 3: I can't say all DJs all d DJs. Is that

824
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: something that you've learned to work with.

825
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 4: You, you learn to accept it. Okay, you know what

826
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I guess because I wasn't always in hip hop.

827
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: You know, I came in the tech world.

828
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: You know, I have a computer science disagree for music Berkley,

829
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 4: and I'm used to I've worked for Intel, you know,

830
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 4: an Autodesk and big companies and everything else like that.

831
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 4: And in those type of businesses, people are on time. Yes, yes,

832
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 4: people are professional and so forth. Coming to hip hop

833
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: getting a half hour an hour late, yes, that's a

834
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 4: new normal, and it you know, it's not It's something

835
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 4: that I've never really gotten comfortable with because like I mean,

836
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 4: look at me today, what I got you early? Yes, yes, yes, right, no.

837
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 4: But my whole thing is, like I guess that I

838
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 4: value other people's time and they don't always value my time.

839
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 4: And in hip hop is just a little more commonplace unfortunately,

840
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

841
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: But you can always thank you, like I can always

842
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: tell a rapper that's a business rapper, because we make

843
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 3: bets who's on time?

844
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: Okay time.

845
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 3: I clearly lost to Jehebro yesterday on Monday. I bet

846
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 3: that he was gonna be on time lost too jee

847
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: hebro Okay, he came late and he had hit a couple.

848
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: Of excuses while he was late.

849
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 3: It was cool, but you know it's crazy. I was

850
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 3: the late guy. Yeah, until I waited. Oh I can't

851
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: stand it.

852
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: Oh me waiting or somebody, Oh, I can't stand it.

853
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 3: Blows It blows the energy because we're sitting there like

854
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: I'm ready to turn up and this guy comes. There's

855
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 3: been a couple of times. Man, they come late. I

856
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: don't want to get him a five. I don't want

857
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: to call them. I don't want to look at my

858
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 3: eye contact because I'm like, yo, bro, you know me?

859
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, this is crazy.

860
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: But I just want to say this, what's the most

861
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 4: valuable thing in this world?

862
00:39:59,120 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: You can't get it back.

863
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 4: I can lose some money and I can make it back,

864
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 4: but that time I lost waiting for someone or worse,

865
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: even worse, a cancelation when you've spent money and time

866
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: and there's you know, we have twenty people in our company.

867
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people that are that are working

868
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 4: to make this happen, and then first doesn't show up.

869
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: Who's someone who canceled on? You do twenty four hours

870
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: just decided not to show up. That's his name. Twenty

871
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: four hours. Yeah, he used to be.

872
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 4: Called something else. Just didn't show up. Asian Dollar just

873
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 4: didn't show up. Oh wow, trying to think who else?

874
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: I can't you know.

875
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 4: Those are the two that kind of just you know

876
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 4: what I mean, and they just Tom Hanks's son, Ched

877
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: Hanks didn't show up.

878
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: Was he Buma Clotte? Yeah, that dude. He was in Jamaica.

879
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, just just didn't feel like it.

880
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: Right.

881
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 4: Well, it's a kind of a slap in the face

882
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 4: because you're losing thousands of dollars and time that you

883
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 4: can never get back. And you know me, I've sometimes

884
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 4: spent a few days just researching and airing and poof

885
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 4: out the window. So you know, yeah, man, it's time,

886
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: the most valuable thing. I can never get it back.

887
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: That's real shit. Man.

888
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 3: Well we went, we were so I'm gonna be honest,

889
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 3: I'm so happy you came came to see us, because

890
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: one you a legend and what you did, like I

891
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: want to tell you face to face man, and man,

892
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: I've been a part of it. You changed the way

893
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: hip hop has been, you know, covered you changed it all.

894
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 3: You you you interviewed them. There was nobody else doing that.

895
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: It was behind the scenes. It's the only difference. You

896
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: know what I mean That people don't call you that

897
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: hip hop pod god is because you didn't actually put

898
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: yourself on camera. But I love the fact that you

899
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: put yourself on camera. I love the fact, man, you

900
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: know what you deserve every accolade. Our show was about

901
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: giving people they flowers, and I wanted to give you

902
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 3: your flowers.

903
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: I've been wanting to hear that. I've been wanting to listen.

904
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: I've been wanting to do this in the beginning of

905
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 3: Drink Champs eight years ago.

906
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

907
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to sit down with you because what

908
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: you do for hip hop, A lot of people don't

909
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: understand that.

910
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: You put people in the forefront.

911
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: You don't ask people, you know, to go to these

912
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: places that they want to go.

913
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: But if they do it, you do it. But you

914
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: deserve all that.

915
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: You are motherfucking hip hop pillar.

916
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: And we motherfucking love and respect.

917
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 4: And I just I just want to I just want

918
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 4: to apologize to you for not being on here sooner,

919
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 4: because a few years ago you had asked me to

920
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 4: be on the show. And because I had a big

921
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 4: ego and you had an ego, it sure than to.

922
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: Keep on.

923
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 4: Because because of my ego, you know, because I remember

924
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 4: I was explaining this, like Sam Sneid called me up

925
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 4: and he was like, we were talking about doing an interview,

926
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 4: and he was, yeah, I want to do your show

927
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 4: and I want to do Drink Champs you and know

928
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 4: you're cool, and I'm.

929
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: Like, not really the time we weren't. He goes why.

930
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 4: And I explained it to him, and at the end

931
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: of the explanation, I felt so stupid. That was just

932
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: the dumbest reason that me and Nori, who were actually

933
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 4: friends up until that point, like this is.

934
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: Why we're not cool.

935
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 4: And I'm like, this is dumb, Like this is not

936
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 4: like a real beef, Like I've had real beef.

937
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: In my life.

938
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 4: This is not that. It was just the ego thing.

939
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 4: And that's when I reached out to you, not too

940
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 4: long after love. So it took us about a year

941
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 4: for us to kind of.

942
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: By the way, you know, I mean, that's what that's

943
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: what men. Men is about.

944
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 3: Like sometimes you know what you can't Someone told me

945
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: this the other day, they said, you can't make a

946
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 3: misunderstanding out of the misunderstanding. The misunderstanding is just a misunderstanding.

947
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: This shit made no sense in all listens to me

948
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: in the world. You can't make a misunderstanding out of

949
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 3: the misunderstanding already. It's just a misunderstanding. Leadership alone, you

950
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Leadership alone?

951
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: And uh, I appreciate respect you man. Uh. Let's so

952
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: we gave him Miss Flowers.

953
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 3: We're gona play QuickTime before we play quicktimeaslant, how the

954
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: fuck did you build this chemistry with Boosy out?

955
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, so.

956
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 4: Before vlad TV was the hot in here DVDs, which

957
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 4: came around the time to Spack DVDs. As I was

958
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 4: transitioning out of mixtapes because you know, CDs were going away,

959
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 4: the Mama pop stars were going away, I was like

960
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 4: doing you know, I started doing DVDs like street DVDs

961
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 4: where I would get freestyles, do interviews everything else like that,

962
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 4: and I would go to labels and I went to

963
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 4: Atlantic Records.

964
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: He was on Atlantic time. Boosey and Webby had just

965
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: gotten signed to Atlantic. Yeah, but before write.

966
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 4: Me down before before yeah, you should see how like

967
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 4: I have videos of this on my YouTube channel, like

968
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 4: Boosey looks like a little kid.

969
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 1: He looks like he's about seventeen.

970
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 4: And I interviewed Boosey and Webby hold the camera, you know,

971
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 4: I mean the whole thing, and me and me and

972
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 4: Boosy kind of formed, you know, me kind of formed

973
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 4: that early early relationship. And then you know, later on

974
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 4: well Glad TV started to get legs. We did an

975
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: interview and that was the hypnotized with Hatred interview, and

976
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 4: that just went super viral, like people still say that

977
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 4: to this day. And then we do one interview, reacts,

978
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: and we do another interview and reacts. The numbers just

979
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 4: keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. You know,

980
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: We've had interviews that are like twenty million views combined

981
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 4: and everything else like that. And after a while it

982
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 4: just became a mutual respecting. It became a business relationship.

983
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 4: You know, he picked you up on our show too. Yeah,

984
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 4: I'm bigging him up right now.

985
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: That's my man. You know, I've been to his house.

986
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: You know. It was it was like we and it just.

987
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 4: Turned into something like, for whatever reason, the chemistry between us,

988
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 4: people just react to it more so than any of

989
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 4: my other regular guests, right, and you know, we just kept.

990
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: Doing it and doing it.

991
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 4: Now it's like we almost try to have Boosy running

992
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 4: all the time. One you know, we do one interview,

993
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 4: it's like whatever thirty forty parts at the time it ends,

994
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 4: we'll go do another one and then that'll keep running

995
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 4: and then you know what I'm saying, and everyone just

996
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 4: benefits from it.

997
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: Right now, I ain't a lie.

998
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 3: You got me tuned in, and I like, I love

999
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 3: the fact that it's never repetitive. It's always something new.

1000
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: You always come with something fresh and new. Sitting there

1001
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 3: like how much more Boosy can I have? And then

1002
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 3: you manage to say, oh no, you need more Boosy

1003
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: And I'm sitting there and I'm like, I didn't need

1004
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: more Boosy like I did. Like it's so entertaining. Is

1005
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: that your favorite guest?

1006
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: You have had? My favorite guest? Yeah, who's your favorite?

1007
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: Don't give me Arron hall Wild. I mean that's a.

1008
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 4: Hard question to answer, okay, right, because me and Boosy

1009
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 4: consistently get the biggest reaction. But it's not like I

1010
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 4: grew up listening to Boosy.

1011
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1012
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 4: And there's something that's to be said about when you

1013
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 4: fall in love with music before it becomes your career,

1014
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 4: and when you interview someone before before it's for the

1015
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 4: money and you're doing it for the views and the

1016
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 4: money and the cloud or whatever else.

1017
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: It's pure love.

1018
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 4: You're sitting there with your headphones and you're in your

1019
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 4: bedroom listening to a song over and over again, and

1020
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1021
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: So, you know, like interviewing Smokey Robinson was was.

1022
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 4: A moment, you know, sitting in when when Loudell interviews

1023
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 4: Shaka Khan was was a moment. Interviewing Mike Tyson it was.

1024
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 4: It was a moment. Well he got mad at me

1025
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: at one point, So yeah, I was scared.

1026
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: Oh he interviews you. No, I interviewed him and I

1027
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: asked the wrong questions. What happened? Okay?

1028
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 4: So it was actually a zab Judah interview, right, So

1029
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 4: we go to Mike Tyson's gym in l A and

1030
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 4: zab Judoh is the one that that was due in

1031
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: the interview. And and but I'm there and I for

1032
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 4: you know, even when other people do interviews for us,

1033
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 4: I work with him on the questions.

1034
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: Right. So he goes to the whole interview.

1035
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 4: He does this thing, and then uh, I'm like, hey,

1036
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 4: do you mind if I jump and asked a few

1037
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 4: questions and Mike's like, yeah, cool, no, because Mike knew

1038
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 4: who I was, and he knew some of the people

1039
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 4: I interviewed whatever else, and you know, you know me,

1040
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 4: I'm going to push the.

1041
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: Envelope a little bit, right.

1042
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 4: So so we're in You got to understand that the

1043
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 4: setting we're doing the interview inside of his actual boxing ring.

1044
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 4: So I'm in the ring with Mike Tyson. Literally no one,

1045
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: no no, But we're you know about as far as

1046
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 4: you know. Me and aofn were just close to each

1047
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 4: other in chairs doing the interview, and you know, I

1048
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 4: started getting into a little bit of the harder questions,

1049
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 4: and one of my questions was, well, Mike, you know

1050
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 4: here you are, You're worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

1051
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 4: You know, why are you attracted to these street guys

1052
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 4: like Eric von Zipp?

1053
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: And he said what do you mean by attracted? And

1054
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: I wish so bad at a time machine to go

1055
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 1: back and changed my words, and you know, you see

1056
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: that like pissed off Mike Tyson. And I'm like.

1057
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 4: And I gotta talk my way out of this situation

1058
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 4: because my security is way over there.

1059
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: He's not gonna get to me in time. If Mike

1060
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: Lunge is at me and.

1061
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 3: He has security, might think twice, Might might not even

1062
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 3: do it. Mike Twice like, man, you're not paying me

1063
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 3: to do that.

1064
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, so so I gotta you know, I gotta

1065
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 4: dance my way out of this question and explain to

1066
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 4: him I didn't really mean it that way. And then

1067
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 4: at one point he got it, and then we went

1068
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 4: on with the interview.

1069
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: But it was a moment.

1070
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 4: It was a tense moment made for good television, you

1071
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But it was Mike Tyson is

1072
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 4: still Mike Tyson. He knows when he could turn it on.

1073
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 3: This man never got high in his life. Mike Tyson

1074
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: gave him a mushroom and a gummy and he took it.

1075
00:50:52,760 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: He said, ship that ship like shit, Hold what I'm saying.

1076
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, man, that's Mike Tyson. But that

1077
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 4: was the moment as well. It's like, yo, Mike Tyson,

1078
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 4: for people of my era, that's the Muhammad Ali of.

1079
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 3: Our Eras I'll tell you some funny ship I'm going

1080
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: through No, not Sordi Arabia, I'm going through Dubai.

1081
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: I see Mike. Everybody's like Mike Tyson.

1082
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: He's just looking. He's just looking, just intimidated walking through

1083
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: the airport and I'm like it was nois like, oh,

1084
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 3: ship turns around. He takes a picture. Very next day,

1085
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 3: I see a Vanda the holy Feld. Yeah, just interviewed.

1086
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: But I know that's why I brung it up. Was

1087
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 3: giving you a give you a you know what I'm saying.

1088
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 3: How was it you interview on the Vanda holy Feield?

1089
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:42,479
Speaker 4: It was dope, man, it was dope. Like he's such

1090
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 4: a class act.

1091
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: Did he talk about his mom?

1092
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely, listen, Yeah, he's a big fan of his mama's.

1093
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: My mama was definitely a phrase.

1094
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 4: I think one of the interesting points that he made

1095
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 4: in that interview was when he was in the Olympics,

1096
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 4: he kind of got robbed, he got a bad call.

1097
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: Okay, because we heard this story, he ended up tell

1098
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: the story. Okay, so.

1099
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 4: During one of the fights, he had a bad call

1100
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 4: and he ended up winning the bronze instead of the gold,

1101
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: which he ultimately deserved.

1102
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: And uh, and.

1103
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 4: I said, well, did you think to act out whatever

1104
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 4: else he goes. Nah, because if I would, my mom

1105
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 4: was right there. If I would have acted out, she

1106
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 4: would have jumped into the ring and slapped me in front.

1107
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: Of the whole world.

1108
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 4: And she would always tell me, You're not the only

1109
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 4: one that's going through this. Don't think you're special, and

1110
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 4: you're the only one that goes through trials and tribulations,

1111
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 4: like take it like a man. And that was sort

1112
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 4: of the theme. You know, he he had losses, you know,

1113
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 4: he he he wasn't mad at Mike Tyson for biting

1114
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 4: off part of his ear. He forgave him.

1115
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: That's that's a lot. They got an air company together.

1116
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, it's it's okay, okay, Yeah, I mean it

1117
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 6: was just so you know, like that mansion, you know

1118
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 6: that he used to own.

1119
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 4: The reason why he lost that mansion was because his

1120
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 4: sister took a second mortgage behind his back on that

1121
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 4: mansion and then by the time he found out, he

1122
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 4: was millions and millions in debt and he never pressed charges.

1123
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: You just let that go, you know what I'm saying.

1124
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 4: To lose the house that you think you're going to

1125
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 4: pass on to your grandkids from your own family member,

1126
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 4: and to not feel angry about it, bitter about it,

1127
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 4: not to retaliate on any level.

1128
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's it's a.

1129
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: It's a we all strive to that that level of elevation.

1130
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: Put it like this all the time. Don't live here.

1131
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 3: I don't worrys speak to him because he's just intimidated guy.

1132
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 4: But he's not really intimidating, not at all his mouth.

1133
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 3: But if he doesn't open his mouth, he's very intimidated.

1134
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: Trust me, he was around and you, like most of

1135
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 1: most of the people, can get the funk out of his way.

1136
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, by way, Wait, but great guy met him, You

1137
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 3: were there, right. I can't even I can't even reveal nothing,

1138
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 3: change the subject. Guam boom, quick time of slim. Let

1139
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 3: me go to the bathroom bathroom break?

1140
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the quick time of slime. I don't think

1141
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: it's going to be quick. How does it work? Rules? Okay, okay,

1142
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: explaining it all the time.

1143
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: You're gonna get two choices, So this or this, and

1144
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: you could say you pick one and nobody drinks, or

1145
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 2: you say both are neither.

1146
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: If you say the politically correct one, which is you basically.

1147
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: Don't to pick one, everybody drinks and if somebody were

1148
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 2: talking about inspired, you have a story with them, please

1149
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,479
Speaker 2: the rate tell us the story you know.

1150
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: Got you ready?

1151
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 3: Yep, Joe, butden on fat Joe, Joe, Oh that was hard.

1152
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 3: Tupaca DMX Tupac clue of funk Flex funk Flex, Tony

1153
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 3: touch or dup man, this is easy.

1154
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: Yehad dirty Hairy or SNS dirty Harry. Soul Assassins are hieroglyphics. Assassins.

1155
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

1156
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: take a shot.

1157
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 4: That's a tough one both, okay, show, I have to

1158
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 4: think about that for a second.

1159
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, we told him that.

1160
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,959
Speaker 4: Thanks love, shout out, shout out to be real man.

1161
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean I've interviewed both of.

1162
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 3: Those dudes, and I didn't know your love for for sercilles,

1163
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 3: so just now.

1164
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, no. I mean.

1165
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 4: It's funny because there's a there's a photo that was

1166
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 4: a super huge soul assassins fan.

1167
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: I think I smoked weed because of Cypress Hill, you know.

1168
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 4: What I mean, Because because the Cypress Hill made smoking cool,

1169
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 4: you know, at least in my eyes.

1170
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: And them in red men. I feel like that.

1171
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 4: But for me, like Cypress kind kind of connected a

1172
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 4: little bit and like Cyprus.

1173
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: Came before Red Man though right.

1174
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it's like for the first album, for a

1175
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 4: first album, but getting to me.

1176
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: Be real and hanging.

1177
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 4: Out backstage, like we both got high backstage, and there's

1178
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 4: a picture of us and we looked like twins. My

1179
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 4: head was shade both of our head at that time,

1180
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 4: and we both like high as hell, and this photo

1181
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 4: I look like I was part of Like we looked

1182
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 4: like twins, you know what I mean. But uh, I

1183
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 4: got to interview I got to interview hieroglyphics as well. Man,

1184
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 4: and those those dudes really, like I said, seeing them

1185
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 4: in Berkeley kind of really got me to thinking that

1186
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 4: hip hop is attainable on some level. I could actually

1187
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 4: see them right in front of me. You know, I

1188
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 4: could deal a pound and anything else like that. So

1189
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 4: so both of them have a significant over my life.

1190
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: So I gotta I gotta say both. I respect that

1191
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: WU tang or n w A.

1192
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 4: I'm getting a nw AD because in fact, like I'm

1193
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 4: gonna tell you there, there's this one point because I

1194
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 4: was a hip hop head from elementary school through junior high.

1195
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 4: But then in junior high I got in some trouble,

1196
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 4: Like I gotten you know me and this this one

1197
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 4: kid started getting into it, and then the vice principal

1198
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 4: got involved and he the vice principal started threatening me,

1199
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 4: started saying he'll like bash my hand in the wall

1200
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 4: and like that type of you know, to like a

1201
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 4: little kid. Was was kind of fucked up, and my

1202
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 4: parents were like, we're taking you out of this this

1203
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 4: public school, and we're going to put you in this

1204
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 4: private school because we're not going to deal with this

1205
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 4: this funck shit. So I got put in the school,

1206
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 4: a private school where nobody listened to hip hop.

1207
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: Wow.

1208
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,479
Speaker 4: And you know, if none of your friends are listening

1209
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 4: to hip hop, you slow, you slowly start to, you know,

1210
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 4: get into more of the music they're listening to and

1211
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 4: so forth. So I started kind of lose interest a

1212
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 4: little bit in hip hop and not listen to it

1213
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 4: quite as much.

1214
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: And then I heard.

1215
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 4: Easy East first album and it was like, oh my god,

1216
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 4: what is it? Boys in the Hood, just that whole album,

1217
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 4: you know, Dre. Hearing Dre for the first time.

1218
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: Here he said, I want to fuck you. I want

1219
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: to fuck you too.

1220
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 3: We love you, Easy, I want to to.

1221
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: Here we fucking with that ship.

1222
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 4: And so n w A held such an important role

1223
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 4: in my development. And Wu Tang is dope. No, come on,

1224
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 4: like Wu Tang is Wu Tang thank you? Yeah? Yes,

1225
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 4: but you know and and of course this is the

1226
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 4: East coast West coast thing to a certain degree, I

1227
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 4: understand living in New York like you, Wu Tang has

1228
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 4: a difference.

1229
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna be honest with you, Okay, That's why

1230
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 3: I got my shot ready. I can never choose between

1231
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: n w A and Wu Tang. To me, they had

1232
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 3: the same impact on me. Because of n w A,

1233
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't see they videos.

1234
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I was poor.

1235
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 3: Or something like, I didn't get this identify with all

1236
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 3: of their videos. But then Wu Tang I got to

1237
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 3: see their video.

1238
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: So I got to.

1239
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 3: Appreciated more because to hear it. But I got to

1240
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: appreciate n w A a little more because I didn't

1241
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 3: have access to everything, you know what I mean? I

1242
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 3: didn't man like I always say this on the show,

1243
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 3: I thought Compton was a jail.

1244
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was a place.

1245
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 3: Because it was like how Cooogie Wrap describe right as Island,

1246
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 3: Like I don't want to go there. I didn't want

1247
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 3: to go to Compton. I was just like, wait a minute,

1248
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 3: Content Compton, crazy motherfucker.

1249
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: I see what I say that in jail seller's crazy

1250
00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: like that.

1251
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 3: I want to go to this come to find out

1252
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 3: as a as a real neighborhood.

1253
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: Holy moly, come on, be moving on. Yeah, ud Kid

1254
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: Capri or red Alert.

1255
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 3: Red Alert camera or mace camera, Napster or lime Wire

1256
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 3: Napster now right or on smash not right, This is

1257
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: very easy.

1258
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, New York City Breakers or Rock City Crew.

1259
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 4: New York city Breakers because because that was that was

1260
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 4: the ones that that I got, you know now living

1261
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,479
Speaker 4: in New York, those are the ones who I saw

1262
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 4: on TV, and that's who inspired me to break dance.

1263
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: On David Letterman. Right.

1264
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 4: I don't know where it was, you know what I mean,

1265
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 4: like you you it was television.

1266
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: There was no one.

1267
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 4: Man, you know something's on. You don't even know where

1268
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 4: it's from. Yeah, New York City Breakers got me to breakdance.

1269
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, absolutely, New.

1270
01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: York City Breakers, well Star or b Street mm hmm

1271
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: h b Street. I saw that in the theaters.

1272
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 3: I did not great great movie MTV raps or Rap

1273
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 3: City m TV raps.

1274
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 4: You om TV raps had such an important role in

1275
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 4: my life. You know, I watch almost every episode, you know,

1276
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 4: and the fact they got to interview flve five, Freddy

1277
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 4: and Andre Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1278
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 4: that was that was a lot that that was because

1279
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 4: you know, at the time, that was the only you know,

1280
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 4: living in the West Coast, you didn't have Ralph McDaniels,

1281
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, So you didn't get to

1282
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 4: see that. You on TV raps was the only visuals

1283
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 4: that you saw of hip hop, you know. And you

1284
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 4: and I would watch kids break dancing the music videos

1285
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 4: and I would sit there and try.

1286
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: To do it myself. Well, old TV raps, You on

1287
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: TV raps?

1288
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 4: Is that because there was no other place to watch

1289
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 4: hip hop videos? But you know, m TV raps that

1290
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,479
Speaker 4: was the only game in town.

1291
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 3: Too Shore or e Fordy, let's take the shots like

1292
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 3: both do Yeah, just.

1293
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: State the shock.

1294
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 3: I gotta advise you on that one.

1295
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: You know.

1296
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 4: And I'm from the Bay and you know, I'll be honest,

1297
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 4: I was listening to I was a too Short fan

1298
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 4: before I was forty and the click fan. Uh and

1299
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 4: me and me and well me and me and both

1300
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 4: those dudes have relationships now.

1301
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: But you know dopehiene B.

1302
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 4: I think was like one of the greatest Bay Area

1303
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 4: hip hop songs of all time, just the energy of

1304
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 4: that song and the uniqueness of it, you know, freaky

1305
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,439
Speaker 4: tales like the whole Life is too Short and born

1306
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 4: to mac epic. But you can't you can't down down

1307
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 4: play what E forty has pulled off. Man E forty

1308
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 4: created so much slang. Yeah that man, you know? And Yeah,

1309
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 4: but both them, dudes. I still keep in contact with it,

1310
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 4: you know, being Bay Area. Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm

1311
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 4: not gonna divide the Bay.

1312
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a d was the last time you've been

1313
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 3: to the Bay last year?

1314
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: Okay, that's year I tried. I tried to go there

1315
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: once a year or so.

1316
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 3: I went to the Bay last year. They told me,

1317
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 3: don't leave you a charger in the car.

1318
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 4: I was like, cho They for the first time ever

1319
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 4: in life, a fucking in and out burger got shut

1320
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 4: down in open in Oakland because of the crime.

1321
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: Because I guess it's about the airport and.

1322
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 4: People were literally like robbing people in their cars and

1323
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 4: popping their trunks and taking their suitcases, and it became

1324
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 4: so unsafe that in and Out has announced they're shutting

1325
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 4: down that in and out.

1326
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: I've never heard of an in and out shutting down.

1327
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 7: In and Out don't close, they don't close everything else out.

1328
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 7: Who the hell is saying, yo is leave it to

1329
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 7: Oakland to fuck up?

1330
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 3: In and Out didn't a court system shut down as well.

1331
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 3: Only place in America that a court didn't open because

1332
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 3: there was so much drugs and so much shit outside

1333
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 3: that they didn't want to open the courthouse was in.

1334
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I don't want to co Yeah, you

1335
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: might be right, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1336
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 4: I didn't necessarily hear that story, but you know what

1337
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 4: I mean, a lot of fucked up shit that happens, yeah, unfortunately.

1338
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 4: But but the in and Out thing was just like

1339
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 4: god damn like proof company that literally shut down.

1340
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 3: But you're gonna skip over the fact that my friend

1341
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 3: told me don't leave a charger in a car. A charger,

1342
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 3: I don't mean. It wasn't even the plugging charger, it

1343
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 3: was just the USB part. Like he's like, you, no,

1344
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 3: don't leave that breaking become Gazzi from Empire Records. I'm

1345
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 3: sorry he yelled. I've never heard Ghazi yell. He was like,

1346
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 3: take out radio out of the car. I was like, what, like,

1347
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 3: he's like everything. I was like, it's a wire. He's like,

1348
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 3: they're busting.

1349
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: Your car for a wire. I remember it was a

1350
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: little pete.

1351
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,919
Speaker 4: I interviewed this dispay artist and he was describing how

1352
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 4: they break windows using spark plugs and then the whole

1353
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 4: window just shot.

1354
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 3: Just I ain't gonna lie to the Puerto Rican. I

1355
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 3: used to do that too.

1356
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 2: That's the old technique and stadium do that. But I

1357
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: was so shocked they're still doing it. I'm like, what, like,

1358
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: Holy Moly, walk them on, But.

1359
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: Huh, next, let's go podcasts or radio podcasting. Yeah, you

1360
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: can do that one. Kids are fab fabulous j Z

1361
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: or nas jay Z NPC sixty or MPC two thousand.

1362
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 4: NPC sixty because that was actually the machine that I

1363
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 4: spent a lot of my time making bezz on.

1364
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: Not to say I was great at it.

1365
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 4: I was okay, But with the NPC sixty, and I

1366
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 4: tried at the NPC two thousand, I think even the

1367
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 4: three thousand.

1368
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: With the NPC sixty.

1369
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 4: Something about that the feel of that machine is just unequivocal.

1370
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: BCT Boys are fab boys, definitely. BC Boys.

1371
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 4: BBC Boys was like, you know, like like that first

1372
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 4: album Licensed to Ill.

1373
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: I mean, in fact, I'll.

1374
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 4: Tell you this, I was a huge EC Boys fan.

1375
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 4: But when I got my first car, a Nissan truck,

1376
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 4: the first car I ever owned, the first cassette that

1377
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 4: I played in that car was BC Boys Paul's boutique

1378
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 4: and I played the ship out of that album. That

1379
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 4: was such an underrated.

1380
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: Brilliant The second album, The.

1381
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 4: Dust Brothers, the production level was like on a completely

1382
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 4: different level, and that was an album that was kind

1383
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 4: of slept on, probably one of their worst selling albums.

1384
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 4: With the brilliance behind that, the way the beats were layered,

1385
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 4: the way they would finish off each other's wraps, like

1386
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 4: like like the structuring of the three of them working together,

1387
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Because we live in a

1388
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 4: world of people make music and then they set someone

1389
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 4: an MP three and then they do the first and

1390
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 4: you know, the person who did the first, he doesn't

1391
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 4: even hear the song until later on. No, like they

1392
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 4: were literally in there lighting together.

1393
01:06:59,000 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: Type shit.

1394
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how should definitely Beat Boys. Shout out to

1395
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 4: the Fat Boys.

1396
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: You know I interviewed the cool Cool rock Yeah these

1397
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: are nigga now cool Rocky yeah, yeah, cool rock because

1398
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: the other two passed away Chris MARKI d and but

1399
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: passed away, so I got to interview him.

1400
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 4: And I have a lot of respect for the fat boys,

1401
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 4: but easy, the beastie boys, Easy.

1402
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: Analog or digital digital. I didn't expect that digital Suge

1403
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 1: Night or puff oh Man stories if you want, Okay,

1404
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, well I would.

1405
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 4: I don't really have a connection to either one or

1406
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 4: so I'm gonna say neither.

1407
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:51,439
Speaker 1: So you take cool.

1408
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm gonna tell you puffy

1409
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 4: story I haven't told before. Okay, cool, y'all gonna get

1410
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 4: theseclusive on that snow frog. So you know, listen, when

1411
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 4: you're when you don't have a lot of money, you

1412
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 4: don't have a lot of money buy clothes, you rely

1413
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 4: on these clothing companies giving you clothes, right, And I

1414
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 4: hooked up with this really dope one called Salid like

1415
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 4: the throwback jackets, like the old like teams, like the

1416
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 4: Negro League teams and everything else like that. And I

1417
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 4: remember my man Rikers from Stalidan. I haven't seen him

1418
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 4: in a while. My shot out to write his name

1419
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 4: is Rikers, well his nickname. I don't know what his

1420
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 4: real name.

1421
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: Is his mama ain't no, no no. That was what

1422
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: everyone knew.

1423
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 4: So so Rikers used to always give me this dope, dope,

1424
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 4: dope gear.

1425
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: I remember he gave.

1426
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 4: Me like the the USSR hockey jersey knit hockey jerseys.

1427
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 4: And I remember I came in once and he gave

1428
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 4: me this Brown Bombers jack right, like the matching hat, right,

1429
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 4: and I was feeling fresh to death.

1430
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: Right.

1431
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 4: So so we're in this club and Puffy's in the club,

1432
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 4: and Puffy sends his man to go, uh talk to me.

1433
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, man, I worked for Puffy.

1434
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, cool, cool, yeah, man, Puffy really loves

1435
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 4: that jackie wearing. He wants to know if you want

1436
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 4: to sell it to him. So I'm not gonna tell

1437
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 4: my fucking jacket. I'll take what kind of quick kind

1438
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:36,560
Speaker 4: of question is that?

1439
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: Like I was gonna take off my jacket and give

1440
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: it to another man, Like the fuck? Okay, Like what

1441
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: kind of jacket is this?

1442
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 4: It was a brown Bomber's jack like it was a

1443
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 4: brown you know, well Stalin Dean Brown Bombers on the

1444
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 4: back and it was like the actual logo of I

1445
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 4: believe it was a Negro team, you know, like like

1446
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 4: a negro football team of that erab and it was.

1447
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: A dope jacket. I get it, But I'm not.

1448
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 4: Just gonna sell another man my clothes, especially in the

1449
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 4: club walk home. It might have been winter at the time,

1450
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 4: Like I don't know, man, And that was just sort

1451
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 4: of rubbed me.

1452
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: The wrong way. I was just like, it's just a

1453
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: weird you know.

1454
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 4: It's the one thing to say, hey, o, man, like

1455
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 4: Puffully likes that jacket. Where did you get it? You know,

1456
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 4: so he could go It's like he can't afford it.

1457
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 4: I would just hold him where I got it, but

1458
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 4: he wanted to buy my actual jacket.

1459
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: That's ill. So I'm like, nah, I can't relate. I'm good, man,

1460
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm good. So I'm just gonna say neither, Okay, Green

1461
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: Latin or DJ who can Green Landing?

1462
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 4: Because me and Green have a have a relationship. You know,

1463
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 4: we did we did an epic project together.

1464
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 1: Who could I know? But I just know him, you know.

1465
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 3: What I mean, right, Beyonce or Lisia Keys. I think Beyonce.

1466
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 4: Okay, Beyonce, I mean, you know, Lisia Keys is dope,

1467
01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 4: but you know, and I remember the first time I

1468
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 4: saw it my song and performed together.

1469
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 3: Wow the first time you see Beyonce and.

1470
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 4: Was Alicia Keys concert and Beyonce came through and did

1471
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 4: a little guests.

1472
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: Said yeah, holy morning, walk home home to describe.

1473
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 4: This, yeah, yeah, and then watching it and then like

1474
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 4: Beyonce got off the state because we're backstage kind of

1475
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 4: not backstage, beside stage, and she walked down the next

1476
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 4: to me. I'm like, damn, let's Beyonce like right here

1477
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 4: on this link. Like, you know, Beyonce definitely has the

1478
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 4: energy that's mega stars and so for and Alicia Keys

1479
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 4: is dope. Shout out to Swiss, you know what I mean.

1480
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 4: Me and him have always had a good relationship, you know.

1481
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,799
Speaker 4: But I would say Beyonce to be honest, Yes, that's.

1482
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 3: Lisa Key's my sister too, that Swiss brother. UGK or Outcast.

1483
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna take a shot for.

1484
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 4: This one, UGK, and I think Outcast is dope, but

1485
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 4: but UGK like one of my early mixtapes that I did,

1486
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 4: it was like a dirty South mixtape and it was

1487
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 4: like UGK all through it like pocket full of Stones.

1488
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 4: Me and and b have a dope relationship. In fact,

1489
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you this, I have not I'm planning

1490
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 4: on it. Well, I haven't been down to Texas in

1491
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,440
Speaker 4: a while. It's not like they have them in avoiding

1492
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 4: it or nothing, but well they're in Texas and I

1493
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 4: haven't been in Texas in whatever fifteen years.

1494
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you this. The first time I.

1495
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 4: Met PIMPC, my man Tony Martin was managing him, and

1496
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 4: he said, yo, yo, we them studio pimps. You want

1497
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 4: to come down. I said, cool, let's let's go. Yeah, PIMC.

1498
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 4: And you thought at the time, no, no, no, no, no,

1499
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 4: I was a DJ.

1500
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: I was a mix. In fact, I just did a

1501
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 1: UGK mixtape at the time.

1502
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 4: Okay, you know the edication like label actually gave me

1503
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 4: some tracks and have me put together a UGK mixtape

1504
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 4: and so for exclusive with exclusives on.

1505
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: It and stuff like that. So I go down to

1506
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:53,520
Speaker 1: the studio.

1507
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 4: And PIMPC is there, and I have never seen some

1508
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 4: one that's just so much energy, and it's like story

1509
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 4: to story and each story gets crazier and crazier and

1510
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 4: crazier and crazier.

1511
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: And I remember he.

1512
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 4: Told me there's this one story I'm not gonna name

1513
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 4: names because we all know these people. And I remember

1514
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 4: he was like, yeah, and I was at the bar

1515
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 4: and this very famous R and B singer was at

1516
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 4: the bar and he's like, yeah. She was looking at

1517
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 4: me up and down and she's like, who this motherfucker

1518
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 4: think he is forty or something?

1519
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 1: And I said, bitch, if you don't know who I am,

1520
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: you must be living under a rock. And I threw

1521
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: a bag of money in her face. And we all

1522
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: know who this is. I'll tell you afterward. But it's

1523
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: like this caliber.

1524
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 4: Of story and then the next story is even crazier.

1525
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 4: And then two weeks later he died.

1526
01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest. PEMC was like not from this world,

1527
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 3: but he was special. He was special. He was special.

1528
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 4: And bud Bee is dope but but really like and

1529
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 4: he'll even tell you like he'll say that MC is

1530
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 4: what really made you gk like like you know, because

1531
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 4: he would sing all the hooks and everything else like that.

1532
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 4: You know what I mean is dope, dope, rappers dope.

1533
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 4: But you know, when it came to the hooks and everything,

1534
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 4: as well as the verses, was the one that was

1535
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 4: the glue that held it all together. And yeah, man,

1536
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 4: getting the honor to hang out with PIMC for just

1537
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 4: a short period of time was was important.

1538
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:40,799
Speaker 1: I tell you a story of PIMC Real cravast.

1539
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 3: I had a group and they wanted to do a

1540
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 3: song with you. Gk Ugk asked me for a certain

1541
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 3: amount of money. I went and I got it, you

1542
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 3: know the story, and and I gave it to them,

1543
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 3: and PIMPC gave me back my money.

1544
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: He was like, I just wanted to see who's gonna

1545
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: come play boy?

1546
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 3: And I was just like, what is the first time ever?

1547
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 3: Like he gave me back the check. He's like, I

1548
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 3: just wanted to see he was gonna come on time.

1549
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 3: I wanted to see if he was gonna like I

1550
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 3: wanted to see do New York people respect us the

1551
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 3: same way?

1552
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: And I was just like, oh ship, same thing.

1553
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 3: With three six Mafia, I did a record with well

1554
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 3: Project Pat. Project Pat wasn't known at the time. I

1555
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 3: did a record for Project Pat and and three six

1556
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 3: Mafia had the hottest turn the club up. And I

1557
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 3: had a record with three six Mafia just because of that.

1558
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: So how important this relationships for you? No being done?

1559
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, remember me to say how a poorant relationship is.

1560
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 2: Drama or Kali DJ Drama, DJ Drama.

1561
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,560
Speaker 3: We addressed them both with DJ in front their names.

1562
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: Any explanation why I don't have a relationship with Calid

1563
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: at all? Really? Yeah, at all?

1564
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 3: And you also to win him about the Palistine ship.

1565
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 1: Well, but that that that doesn't have anything to do

1566
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: with that. It's not that I'm you know, mad at

1567
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: him or I somehow try to reach out. We just don't.

1568
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 4: You know, I have interviewed him on my DVD days

1569
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 4: and so forth, but yeah, we just don't. We don't

1570
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:18,879
Speaker 4: have any level relationship.

1571
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 3: But if you go to the store right now to

1572
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 3: pick up one album, you're talking about my.

1573
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 4: Opinion of okay, yeah your opinion, Yeah, yeah, my opinion.

1574
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 4: Me and me and Drama do have a relationship. You know,

1575
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 4: Me and Drama were like we're in the same freshman class.

1576
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 4: In fact, like there's this famous Vibe cover where they

1577
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 4: got all the not the cover, but it was on

1578
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 4: the inside the Vibe where they had this kind of

1579
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 4: DJ issue where they had like the legends and then

1580
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 4: they had like the next generation and me and and

1581
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 4: Drama were part of that next generation shoot.

1582
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: So We're in the same freshman class.

1583
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 4: And I think that me and him, if you look

1584
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 4: at that picture, me and him became the most successful

1585
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 4: dudes from that freshman class. So I think, you know,

1586
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 4: I'm always going to have respect for him because we

1587
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 4: came up together, because you know, I had a raphenomenon

1588
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 4: at the time, and then he was gangster grilled at

1589
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 4: the time, and we both kind of chose different paths

1590
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 4: and there he became a you know, more of a

1591
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 4: producer label and so forth.

1592
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: I became a media outlet.

1593
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 4: But you know, both of us became I think both

1594
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 4: of us exceeded our expectations.

1595
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 1: So feared or love loved, I'm not. I'm not trying

1596
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 1: to be feared. Yeah, I don't. I don't want anyone

1597
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: to be scared of me on any level because I'm

1598
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: not a scary person. I don't. I don't.

1599
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 4: I don't need, I don't need anyone to have that

1600
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 4: type of feeling towards me on any level. I'd rather

1601
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 4: be loved or or not cared about it, you know

1602
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

1603
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: But not, I don't. I don't choose fear over on

1604
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: any level.

1605
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 3: So, yeah's favorite argument your guests Tony. Yeah, Yo, the

1606
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 3: frequents ice Cuba, Biggie.

1607
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I would say ice Cube because that ties

1608
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 4: into my whole n w WA think you know what

1609
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Biggie came later, and you know, Biggie is dope,

1610
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 4: and I love both albums, but but ice Cube, ice

1611
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 4: Cube was just ice.

1612
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: Cube, man.

1613
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 4: I think that was like the soul of NWA. After

1614
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 4: ice Cube left n WA. You know, the four Life

1615
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 4: album was cool, but it wasn't like straight out of Compton,

1616
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And America's Most Wanted I

1617
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 4: liked better than both the Biggie's albums. And yeah, I

1618
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 4: mean a lot of people say desertificable. For me, it's

1619
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 4: America's most Yeah, America's most wanted. And you know, I

1620
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 4: talked to Chuck d about this because the Bomb Squad

1621
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 4: produced that I thought was just an absolute perfect piece

1622
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 4: of work, just apps like like ice Cube melded with

1623
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 4: the East Coast Bomb Squad Beats was just such a

1624
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 4: perfect union. And I think people just don't appreciate how

1625
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 4: great that album is because that next album was more

1626
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 4: of a West Coast album, right, you.

1627
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

1628
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 4: I think people more leaned into that East Coast people

1629
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 4: weren't really bumping West Coast music like that, and you

1630
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 4: know what I mean to a certain extent.

1631
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: But but yeah, I would say ice Cube and and

1632
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,759
Speaker 1: kill that Will. That EPs they don't kill that Will.

1633
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 4: Was another great one for me because that came right

1634
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 4: after that. That was between America's Most Wanted certificate and

1635
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 4: it was really almost like a.

1636
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 1: Death certificate one point five right in a way.

1637
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, ice Cube is brilliant man, and ice

1638
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 4: Cube's flow is incredible, and I'm fortually I've never gotten

1639
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 4: to interview him. You were saying, maybe one day, you

1640
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But I have so much love

1641
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 4: or respect for for for ice Cube's crapped. I mean

1642
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 4: because I've interviewed DJ Yella, d O c Arabian prints. Wow,

1643
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 4: those are the nw A members. You know, I've never

1644
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 4: done Dre, I've never done Cube and of course Easy

1645
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 4: passed away. But yeah, ice Cube, I almost feels like

1646
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 4: the last piece that I would like to get one

1647
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 4: day before, you know, before it's all said and done,

1648
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 4: Scarface or ic T, I'll say Scarface and ice is dope,

1649
01:19:55,320 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, power was incredible, and you know

1650
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 4: but but but Scarface, like like that first that first

1651
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 4: Ghetto Boys album with the mugshots, you know, mister Scarface

1652
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 4: was wucking down the black like it's like, Yo, what

1653
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 4: the fuck is this? And then and then like that

1654
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 4: solo album where everyone's pulling.

1655
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 1: Out the guns and the key of coke on the table.

1656
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 4: It's like, the level of creativity with this shit is

1657
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 4: just like through the fucking roof, you know. And I

1658
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 4: think ultimately, you know, Iced Tea, I think he got

1659
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 4: into his bag with the acting thing, you know what

1660
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 4: I mean. I think once he did New Jack City,

1661
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 4: which I recently saw again, it's like, Yo, Ice is dope, like,

1662
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 4: you know, on the acting side of things, and I

1663
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 4: think he realized that there's way more money in it.

1664
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 4: But I think Scarface, that's like a rappers rappers, you know.

1665
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 4: And this is why I think his Teddy Desk concert

1666
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 4: got the reaction that it did, because you just forget

1667
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,879
Speaker 4: how dope of a storyteller, and you know, and.

1668
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 1: People people always like.

1669
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 4: What I don't like is everyone says Scarface, they forget

1670
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 4: about Willy D. Because Willy D this is my friend

1671
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 4: who I talked to last night, Like he plays such

1672
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 4: a huge role, Like you know, you know, I start

1673
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 4: off our interviews like this time to step on some

1674
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:17,719
Speaker 4: motherfucking toes and fucking ho the co ain't playing our song.

1675
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 1: I want to hear the hell going on?

1676
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 4: Like he was so aggressive and and once you get

1677
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 4: to know him, you realize that he's really like that,

1678
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,719
Speaker 4: like this is not an act, like he never really

1679
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 4: will beat you up in person.

1680
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: You know, he really put hands on him.

1681
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 4: Like like like this, like that persona that you saw.

1682
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 4: Plus he was writing for for uh Bushwick Bill. Most

1683
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 4: of Bushwick's raps was was Scarface was Willy D's Penny.

1684
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 4: Willy D wrote wrote a lot of that, most of

1685
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 4: it actually, you know, so yeah man Willy D And yeah,

1686
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 4: WILLI shout.

1687
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: Out to Ice ic T.

1688
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 4: You know I tea your movie set. Remember the barbershop

1689
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 4: that's right, that's right used.

1690
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: In my movie. Yeah, very came came. I got about

1691
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 1: third grade less money right.

1692
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,719
Speaker 4: Well, I remember they were filming and I'm like, y'all,

1693
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 4: don't want to put a mike a little closer to me,

1694
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,799
Speaker 4: like where that bar is right now, don't.

1695
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: Worry about it.

1696
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 3: We've got great footage. It's still it's still gonna be used. Yeah, uh,

1697
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:23,759
Speaker 3: Melly Mail.

1698
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 4: Cast Melly Mail, Melly Mail and I got to interview

1699
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 4: Mail and and we.

1700
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: Talked about how.

1701
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 4: If it wasn't for the Message, hip hop may have

1702
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:43,440
Speaker 4: faded away because up until that point, and in his words,

1703
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 4: it was rappers talk about rapping.

1704
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: The message was the first serious hip.

1705
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 4: Hop song, the first one with the social message, the

1706
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,600
Speaker 4: ones that the critics, the New York Times and you know,

1707
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 4: the time magazines were like, oh, okay, this is there's

1708
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 4: something here, like there there's actual reality reality rap like

1709
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 4: this is actually painting a picture of life in this

1710
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 4: particular region. And it was, you know, such a dope

1711
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 4: song and such a dope beat and the way it

1712
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 4: was all put together one of my early twelve inch singles,

1713
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like I had that on

1714
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 4: twelve inch and it was like it was such a

1715
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 4: monumental thing. And it sucks that that Mel doesn't get

1716
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 4: mentioned with the greats because he is one of the

1717
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,879
Speaker 4: greats for sure. The voice, the presence, the structure, before

1718
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:41,600
Speaker 4: there was anything to base it off of, was was

1719
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 4: Melly Mel and people always and I think just because

1720
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 4: this Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, his name is

1721
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 4: not in there. You sometimes forget and you put all

1722
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 4: the focus on Flash, which you know Flash is a legend.

1723
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 4: But Mel was the vocalist of that group. Everyone else

1724
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 4: was just back of vote was the lead one hundred

1725
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 4: percent and he, like I said, like people would always

1726
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 4: assume that hip hop would just would have blown up

1727
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 4: no matter what. But no, like life doesn't work that way.

1728
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 4: There's crossroads that if certain things don't happen. And I

1729
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 4: to compare it to Go Go in DC, Go Go

1730
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 4: is the biggest thing ever and outside of DC, nobody

1731
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 4: knows anything about Go Go. It's huge in one region.

1732
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 4: It's a regional music and hip hop could have stayed

1733
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 4: that way if it wasn't for these records that broke

1734
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 4: through that barrier, like the message.

1735
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: You see what I'm.

1736
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 4: Saying, and you as a real hip hop head, like

1737
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 4: you can't deny what I'm saying right now, right it

1738
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 4: was it was those records because up until that point,

1739
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 4: it was you know, Busy Bee and you know, Transcend

1740
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 4: jump in my limousine with one hundred dollars bill and

1741
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, go play basketball like like

1742
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 4: it was you know, I mean, it was fun, it

1743
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 4: was party it was cool, like you know, but but

1744
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 4: it wasn't the message. Raise the bar showed the potential,

1745
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 4: showed the potential of what it could be and what

1746
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 4: it is today. So, and I've interviewed you know, Kaz,

1747
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 4: I understand, I understand the importance of cass Like when

1748
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 4: when I make these choices, don't think it's because I

1749
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 4: don't know important.

1750
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 1: No, he's very important, you know.

1751
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 4: I mean, in fact, the first hit record in hip hop,

1752
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 4: which was what.

1753
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: Rappers rappers a light, it was his you know, I'm

1754
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 1: the C S A and O V A and the

1755
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:32,799
Speaker 1: rest is fl.

1756
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 4: Y Like, no, your name is big Bank Hank, Like,

1757
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 4: why are you saying you're Cassanova fly?

1758
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 1: Because he literally worked for word.

1759
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 4: He took Kazza's lyrics and rewrapped them and it became

1760
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 4: a hit song and no one knows about publishing or

1761
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 4: writing credits the dssette debts. So I understand the importance

1762
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 4: of kaz But once again, rappers saw him out rapping

1763
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 4: of that, you know, flying money, limousines, basketball pools, TV

1764
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 4: screens like Mel Mel's mel.

1765
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, the space of lois for Melle Mel Yeah, Tony

1766
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 3: Yo or Lord Jamal Tony Yo.

1767
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: And do you want to elaborate shouts to tonyeo, man,

1768
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: that's my man.

1769
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 4: And we formed we we really formed a good relationship.

1770
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 4: And and this is something we've that he said, because

1771
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 4: you got to understand that for a good ten years,

1772
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 4: Tony was very quiet.

1773
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't remember what Tony be ten years you did not.

1774
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 4: Tony was fifties man, and he was was one hundred

1775
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 4: percent solid and did whatever fifty you know what I mean,

1776
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 4: has his friend required him to do, and he played

1777
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 4: his position.

1778
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:57,919
Speaker 1: Tony's a definition loyalty.

1779
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 4: But Tony was not out there doing interview, putting his

1780
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 4: face out, giving his opinion out until we did the

1781
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 4: first flat TV interview. And now Tony is like a

1782
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 4: media sensation.

1783
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: He didn't great champs. Yes, after after that he did.

1784
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 3: But I gotta defend yayo because maybe he wasn't quiet

1785
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 3: on the media scene, but.

1786
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 1: He's no I know behind the scenes Tony was. I'm not.

1787
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 4: I'm not. But what I'm saying is is that the

1788
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 4: way that his visibility of where he is now kind

1789
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 4: of in the same way that you found your second career,

1790
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 4: he's finding his second career and now he's doing more

1791
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:42,799
Speaker 4: tours and doing.

1792
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 1: More features and everything.

1793
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 4: I was like that and this is these are his words,

1794
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 4: and I feel I feel that me bringing him on,

1795
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 4: and you gotta you gotta remember that first interview was tense.

1796
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 1: You know, I know Tony's reputation, and he said he

1797
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 1: was He was like, Lloyd Base don't like you or

1798
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 1: something like that. He doesn't. Why does it? Why doesn't

1799
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 1: Lloyd Banks like you? Dumb shit? I mean, like the

1800
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 1: annoying part about this is that the first.

1801
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 4: Time anyone has said vlad TV on a video was

1802
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 4: Lloyd Banks and Tony Yo.

1803
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight.

1804
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 4: I would go to g unit offices to interview the

1805
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 4: both of them, and they I do an interview with

1806
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 4: both of them, and I asked them for a shot out.

1807
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 4: I like, Yo, it's Lloyd talk to New York Go.

1808
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 4: This is you know Lloyd Banks, you know check out,

1809
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 4: you know you tune into ladtv dot com. Like, this

1810
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 4: is Lloyd Banks and Tonio. I used to go to

1811
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 4: g unit interview both of them, I know both of them,

1812
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 4: anything else like that.

1813
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 1: So so this is so dumb.

1814
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 3: Like.

1815
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 4: Tony like like Banks does really do a lot of interviews? Okay, right,

1816
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 4: so you know we we continue to cover him on

1817
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 4: the news site anything else like that. I DMed him

1818
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 4: a few times, Hey, do you want to do an interview?

1819
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,600
Speaker 4: He would just never answer right. And then you know,

1820
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 4: if you know blad TV, every day we do flashbacks. Okay, right,

1821
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 4: so something's happening, like I don't know Nicki Minaj's beefing

1822
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 4: with the Stallion, So we'll bring up an old Nicki

1823
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:12,799
Speaker 4: Minaj interview where she's talking about other female rappers from

1824
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 4: that time. It's a flashback whatever else, right, And it's

1825
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 4: always labeled flashback right in parentheses.

1826
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 1: But it makes it look like you're what do they

1827
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: call it trolling?

1828
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 4: Not really trolling, it's just bringing in you know, it's listen, like,

1829
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 4: your catalog is important. Your intellectual property and your ability

1830
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:38,440
Speaker 4: to monetize it and use it again and continue repurpose

1831
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 4: it purpose it is important. This is the film companies

1832
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 4: have always known this, but a smaller guys are just

1833
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 4: learning this now. So if I have a sixteen year

1834
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 4: catalog and there's a video from ten years ago that

1835
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 4: I can put up that gets another half million views,

1836
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 4: that I don't have to do any editing. I don't

1837
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 4: have to just throw it back up there flashback on it,

1838
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 4: which happens all the time. Now you know we literally

1839
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 4: every month millions of views comes from just flashbacks. I'm

1840
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 4: gonna use that. So in this particular case, we put

1841
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 4: up a Lloyd Banks flashback and the writer forgot to

1842
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 4: put flashback in it, right, it seem like it was

1843
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,640
Speaker 4: it seemed like it was new whatever, honest mistake. So

1844
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 4: he writes to me kind of like like a nasty DM,

1845
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 4: and I'm like, this is when you so, this is

1846
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 4: when you choose to respond to me, Like, after all

1847
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 4: these ignore dms, you choose to respond to me.

1848
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 1: Now, that was it.

1849
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 4: That was the exchange. We never talked again. And then

1850
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 4: like I oh, yeah, Lloyd Banks hates you because of

1851
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 4: that from fucking seven years ago or some shit, like.

1852
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 1: You know what i mean. You're telling me this, yeah

1853
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm like, all right, fuck it. Then

1854
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 1: who cares? You know what I mean?

1855
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 4: Like he mad at you, okay, he mad at me?

1856
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 4: Like who cares? Life goes on, you know is what

1857
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 4: it is.

1858
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 1: Dude?

1859
01:30:54,400 --> 01:31:01,480
Speaker 3: Think you you dealt unfil filed unfair cards because.

1860
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: Because I'm white? All right, let's say that. You think

1861
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: that's the only reason. What else you tell.

1862
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 3: Me, Okay, some of my closest friends, some of my neighbors,

1863
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 3: they're white, and sometimes they asked me inappropriate questions. Yeah,

1864
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 3: it's just a part of their characters. They'll be like,

1865
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 3: all right, for instance, this white guy lives right next

1866
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 3: to me and we're all outside doing yoga. Here he goes, well,

1867
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 3: I wasn't doing yoga, but he goes, this is exactly

1868
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 3: how he described it.

1869
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: He said, hey, don't go over there.

1870
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 3: You gonna get high, because you know, we smoke weed

1871
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,600
Speaker 3: before we work out. But I don't like the terminology

1872
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 3: getting high. I get medicated. My shit is actually I

1873
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:11,440
Speaker 3: actually buy my shit from a dispensary, actually have a receipt.

1874
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 3: I don't look at it as getting high at all.

1875
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 1: So I was so.

1876
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 3: Offended. I went upstairs. I got my receipt, I got

1877
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 3: my medical smell the card, I got my regular and

1878
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 3: I wanted to show him. Right, listen, you're you're in

1879
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 3: the nineties, so about getting high. I get medicated, no disrespect.

1880
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 3: So you think that it's that Sometimes, like sometimes it's

1881
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 3: a question that maybe.

1882
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:49,640
Speaker 4: All right, I'm not racially sensitive, that is that what

1883
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,440
Speaker 4: you're saying. Sometimes I ask questions that are racially insensitive.

1884
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 1: No, I'm asking do you think that?

1885
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 2: Uh?

1886
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 4: I think being white, you're you're not gonna relate completely

1887
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 4: to someone who's black.

1888
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 1: I was just let's just let's just be honest.

1889
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 4: I respect that, and you're not going to relate to

1890
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 4: someone completely who's white.

1891
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 1: That's just the reality. Now.

1892
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 4: During the course of my adult life, from you know,

1893
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 4: my sophomore year in college to you know, throughout my

1894
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 4: whole adult life, ninety five percent of my long term

1895
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 4: relationships have been with black women.

1896
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: So you know, in my home, I'm being told.

1897
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 4: You know what I mean on an intimate level when

1898
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 4: I'm doing that, and I try to correct myself, especially

1899
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 4: because I'm speaking publicly, you know what I'm saying. But

1900
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 4: even with that, of course, I'm not going to relate

1901
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 4: to what it is to be a black person because

1902
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 4: when I walk down the street, unless they know I'm

1903
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 4: DJ Vlad, I'm a white guy. You know, even though

1904
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 4: I'm Jewish, can't necessarily tell I'm Jewish unless you know

1905
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 4: what to look for, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1906
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:04,640
Speaker 4: I'm you know, so I don't know what it's like

1907
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 4: to be a black person and live in America and

1908
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 4: I remember when it really dawned on me was when

1909
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 4: I went to Africa for the first time. When I

1910
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 4: when I went to Africa, I went to Senegal, you

1911
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:20,759
Speaker 4: know where acons you know, but this was before I what.

1912
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 1: You like your I remember.

1913
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 4: I lived with a family in Senegal because the people

1914
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 4: I was with had friends, so it was I I

1915
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 4: was in a hotel. I was actually living with the

1916
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 4: Senegalese family for like two weeks. And I was walking

1917
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 4: around into car in the village, small village we were at,

1918
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 4: and everything else like that, and I would interact with

1919
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 4: the Senegalese and I just remember how different our interactions

1920
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 4: would be then with black people in America when I

1921
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 4: would see them when I don't know them, Like a

1922
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 4: level of apprehension that was in America was not there

1923
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 4: in Africa.

1924
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: And it started dawn on me that like meeting they

1925
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: didn't they didn't look at you the same. Yeah, it

1926
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 1: was a level of Yo, this is our ship. We hear,

1927
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 1: we comfortable, we're not tripping off you. We're not worried.

1928
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:25,639
Speaker 1: You're not a threat. You're not. I don't look down

1929
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 1: on you, don't look up at you.

1930
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 4: You just are what you are because you know, this

1931
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 4: is our country and you're a guest.

1932
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1933
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 4: You're a guest in our country, and we're friendly, we're

1934
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 4: happy you be here. But this is our ship, and

1935
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 4: you know this is our ship. President's black, the whole government's.

1936
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 1: Black, the post man is black, the book man is black.

1937
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 4: You just you're the outsider here, you know, but you're

1938
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,959
Speaker 4: welcome or anything else like that. You start to realize

1939
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 4: that in America, but there's not the history of slavery

1940
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 4: and the you know, the Jim Crow laws and the

1941
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 4: white only bathrooms and the bullshit anything else like that

1942
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 4: in that country. You realize, okay, a lot of the

1943
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 4: tension that happens because of the history in America, and

1944
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 4: you have to go somewhere else to realize it because

1945
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 4: you're just in it. Twenty four to seven. You live

1946
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 4: there to a waterfall, you don't hear the waterfall.

1947
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 1: There's the waterfall.

1948
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 4: You go away from the waterfall, you realize, oh, it's

1949
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 4: not so loud over here. For the first time ever

1950
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 4: in life. And that's that's what I realized. It was like, okay,

1951
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 4: not That's why it's so important for people to travel

1952
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 4: out of the country. And see and see other shit,

1953
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 4: because America is not Yes, that's country on earth, whatever,

1954
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 4: It's not the only country on Earth. You have to

1955
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:35,600
Speaker 4: see other places and see the similarities and the differences,

1956
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 4: because there's all there is differences, you know what I'm saying.

1957
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 4: And it just made me realize, Okay, Like you know,

1958
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 4: I remember, like like Richard Pryor talked about the first

1959
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 4: time he went to Africa, like like he never used

1960
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:47,919
Speaker 4: the N word after.

1961
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 1: That, you know what I mean?

1962
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 4: Like like it changes you've seen shit like that, It

1963
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 4: changes you on different levels depending on who you are.

1964
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 1: Man.

1965
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 4: So like I said, of course, I'm going to be

1966
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 4: racially insensitive to a certain things, you know what I mean.

1967
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 4: And I think to a certain degree people tune in

1968
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 4: for that because I do have a large white, you know,

1969
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 4: white fan base of hip hop kids who are thinking

1970
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 4: the same things that I'm thinking, and they're relating to

1971
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 4: me as a white kid who loves hip hop talking

1972
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 4: to someone who isn't white about these very serious topics,

1973
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 4: something that they'll never get to do. They'll just watch

1974
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 4: it on the internet, you know what I'm saying. So

1975
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 4: it is what it is. So yeah, I'm absolutely guilty

1976
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 4: of it, and I try to work on it on

1977
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 4: a daily basis.

1978
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:42,560
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, digg, go right there, my friend,

1979
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 3: when we go out jogging, he jumps in front of

1980
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 3: cars because he loses his white privilege to the fulls

1981
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 3: by the way, I enjoy it. I enjoy he just

1982
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 3: right it from the cart. He ain't no white person.

1983
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 3: It's just a fact. Walks over there. You're gonna give

1984
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 3: a fuck. He's swinging his arms, jump in front of

1985
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 3: any car.

1986
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:07,599
Speaker 1: He doesn't care.

1987
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 3: The only time I disagree with him is a child

1988
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 3: who was out. Hat came off and he was just

1989
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 3: gonna run.

1990
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 1: It's like, fuck that child, Fuck that hat too. He's

1991
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 1: about to die.

1992
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:23,560
Speaker 3: He thought he was gonna run in front of the

1993
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:28,679
Speaker 3: fucking highway to get a hat. And the parents didn't

1994
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,799
Speaker 3: even move. We said, diego, you gonna move your ass.

1995
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 3: But we were in Amsterdam, and I look at it.

1996
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 3: I'm smoking cigarettes as the time, and I look they're

1997
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 3: only watching me.

1998
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm supposing to be the privileged person. You know. Fuck that,

1999
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 1: I am the privileged person. I guess right, Diggle, you did.

2000
01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 3: So, I'm like, yo, I'm gonna go outside of smokingigarette.

2001
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:03,759
Speaker 1: I smoked cigarettes at the time. I'm going outside smoking

2002
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 1: a cigarette.

2003
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 3: Every single time I walked through the door, they stopped

2004
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 3: me and say, you can't bring your drink out.

2005
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 1: My friend right there, I just don't like this.

2006
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 3: Gave it to him and he walked right out of

2007
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 3: the front door.

2008
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 1: Uh oh, he had his.

2009
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,919
Speaker 3: And we go outside and I'm just looking at the security.

2010
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 3: You bitch as drinking. I'm double fisting too, like smoking

2011
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 3: a cigarette. And then I did it twelve times. But

2012
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 3: did they stop me every twelve times they said you

2013
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 3: can't drink? And I was just like, all right, cool,

2014
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 3: I got good white people that was with me, and

2015
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 3: I was just.

2016
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 1: But that's that's fucking And you know where we was at?

2017
01:39:57,560 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 1: Where was at? I said, where was at? Amsterdam?

2018
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 3: Amsterdam and one of the most limerous three countries that

2019
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 3: spoke marijuana.

2020
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:11,879
Speaker 1: I've been there multiple times. So it does exist. Racism

2021
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 1: is everywhere, bro, of course it is.

2022
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 4: You can't pretend that it doesn't, and you can't deny

2023
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 4: the effects of that history because there's you know, I

2024
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 4: have interviewed Bill Duke who had grandparents that were coming

2025
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 4: out of slavery, like you know, like really I believe

2026
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 4: was he alive when the M Matil news broke.

2027
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 1: I think it did? I think he was?

2028
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he remembers the m. Mattil story. You know, so

2029
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 4: you got people alive right now that dealt with that ship.

2030
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 1: This is not ancient.

2031
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 4: This is not Jesus to just arguing over some ship

2032
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:56,639
Speaker 4: that nobody technically knows about. No, this is some real ship, man,

2033
01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 4: and can't just pretend it doesn't exist. You gotta you

2034
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 4: gotta accepted you guys, accept your rolling it. You know

2035
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 4: you're not gonna be a perfect person. You know you're

2036
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 4: gonna fuck up. You know that you need good people

2037
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 4: around you. They're gonna check you on it. Be like,

2038
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 4: hey man, what you said here was was fucked up.

2039
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 4: And so my guests do that. You know, the airy

2040
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 4: spears of the world will sit there and check me

2041
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 4: on camera. Michael Jay White will check me on camera,

2042
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 4: and I'll run it.

2043
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 1: You know all that. You know, Yeah, I fucked up,

2044
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 1: my bad? Yeah, yeah.

2045
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 3: Only one last question. This is this is the one

2046
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 3: last question. We say, isn't a trick question? Okay, old, no, no,

2047
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 3: I got we said Boosy, Oh, okay, Boosy or Aaron

2048
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 3: Hall this before Boosy Okay, yeah, all right, Now this

2049
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:47,680
Speaker 3: is the one last question that we say. It is

2050
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 3: not a trick. Okay, loyalty or respect respec fee, I

2051
01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:59,600
Speaker 3: mean a person. A person will be loyal to you

2052
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 3: too in a you can't expect you get what you earn,

2053
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:08,599
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You get what you pay

2054
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 3: for you you you get.

2055
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 4: You can't expect a person to be loyal to you

2056
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:17,240
Speaker 4: when you're disrespectful to that person, you.

2057
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. You can't expect loyalty to last.

2058
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 4: Past past, like a level of comprehension that no one

2059
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:27,439
Speaker 4: really could understand.

2060
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 1: You know, I.

2061
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 4: Have a staff of people, and I understand they're going

2062
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 4: to be loyal to me as long.

2063
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 1: As I pay them.

2064
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 4: But at the point that I can't pay them anymore,

2065
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 4: I don't expect them to.

2066
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 1: Keep working for me for free, you know what I mean.

2067
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 4: And I don't expect that they understand that I'm not

2068
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 4: going to keep paying them if they stop working.

2069
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 1: You know.

2070
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 4: And you do have friendships, and you do have principles

2071
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:57,439
Speaker 4: and everything else like that, but we're all humans, you know.

2072
01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 4: But but but the respect, that's an ongoing thing. It's

2073
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 4: an active thing. It's happening right now. Me and you

2074
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 4: are respecting each other right now, me being here, you know,

2075
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 4: because of the respect I have for you and us

2076
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,720
Speaker 4: having that conversation and you allow me to come on

2077
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 4: this platform with all the wars that you won and

2078
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 4: everything else like that. This is respect that you're seeing

2079
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,960
Speaker 4: in action. It's not about loyalty, but you know what

2080
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 4: I mean. The loyalty is whatever. You know what I mean,

2081
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 4: and we haven't loyaled each other and everything else like that.

2082
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 4: But the respect is something you have to keep working on.

2083
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 4: It's not just something that you you know, and you

2084
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:39,839
Speaker 4: know listen. I've interviewed so many people, so many mafia

2085
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 4: guys that went through the pricking of the finger and

2086
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:48,600
Speaker 4: gave and told that their mafia boss that if my

2087
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 4: kids are dying and you call me, I will drop

2088
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 4: them and go see you. And they've killed people because

2089
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:59,680
Speaker 4: they were told what to do. And they've killed their

2090
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 4: own family members. You know, Sammy the Bull killed his

2091
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 4: brother in law, killed his brother in law because he

2092
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 4: was told to do that shit. Because and at some

2093
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 4: point that loyalty expired. And all of them that I've

2094
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 4: interviewed have said and I was gonna I was gonna

2095
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:20,719
Speaker 4: do one hundred years, and I was gonna jump out

2096
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:25,559
Speaker 4: the window. But then this happened. But then I heard

2097
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 4: this tape of him saying this. Oh, then they threatened

2098
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 4: my family. There's always a good excuse to be disloyal.

2099
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 4: There's always a great excuse to be disloyal.

2100
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 1: Yes, am I right? You disagree with you? That's ill.

2101
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,599
Speaker 4: A person will always find an excuse to be disloyal

2102
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 4: to you. Wow, will always find excuse and you may

2103
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 4: not agree with that excuse.

2104
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 1: And you yo.

2105
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 4: I just interviewed Tricked Daddy today, Right, this interview is

2106
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:55,799
Speaker 4: not out yet. This interview is not out, but this story,

2107
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:58,599
Speaker 4: my man, Jake, he knows. He was sitting right there

2108
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 4: like this gotta stand truth. Daddy was in tears when

2109
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 4: he was telling me this story.

2110
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 1: Right.

2111
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 4: So, Trick Daddy's a multiplatinum artist at this point, all

2112
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 4: his big records. He's like IBUM number five, number two

2113
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 4: on Billboard, take it to the house, Let's go is out.

2114
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 4: He's touring whatever else, right, And he said, like when

2115
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 4: he got his first million dollars, he said, he told

2116
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 4: Ted Lucas, don't give me that money.

2117
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 1: Break it up.

2118
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 4: In twenty thirty thousand dollars chunks. So all the people

2119
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 4: that are there for me, I'm gonna give him this.

2120
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:31,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna break them all off. I'm gonna give this

2121
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 4: person this money. This person, you know, we take care

2122
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 4: of everyone who took care of me when I was homeless.

2123
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:37,840
Speaker 1: And you know in the.

2124
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 4: Street rings like that, you know what I mean?

2125
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 1: Huh?

2126
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 4: And he and he went back to Liberty City to

2127
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 4: go hang out on this basketball court and he sees

2128
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:51,760
Speaker 4: one of his one of his friends.

2129
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 1: That he paid off back then, but felt.

2130
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 4: That he didn't do enough, and he said he didn't

2131
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 4: enough or the person person felt.

2132
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 1: That that Trick didn't do enough for me.

2133
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 4: He said, Man, you're not allowed on this fucking court anymore.

2134
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 4: I know this is you think it is your city

2135
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:10,559
Speaker 4: and whatever you you can't come back here again. I'm

2136
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 4: still here. You can't come to this fucking court anymore.

2137
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 4: Trick was so hurt when he heard that. And he's

2138
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 4: holding back tears as he's telling me the story. You

2139
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 4: don't know where interview is gonna go, right, you know you,

2140
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 4: I'm asking you a question and then and then and

2141
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:29,600
Speaker 4: and I'm getting this react he said. He said, I

2142
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:35,640
Speaker 4: went in my car, and I got my pistol and

2143
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 4: I pulled my pistol out of that motherfucker and I said,

2144
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 4: your daddy got killed from someone that came back and

2145
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 4: killed him. Your brother got killed because someone that came

2146
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:50,639
Speaker 4: back and killed him.

2147
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 1: Mofuck.

2148
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 4: I'm coming back and I'm going to kill you for

2149
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:55,799
Speaker 4: telling me I can't come here after everything I've.

2150
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 1: Done for you.

2151
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,000
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna call your grandmother and tell her what

2152
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 4: the fuck I just did it. And he's holding back

2153
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 4: tears telling me this story and that motherfucker press charges

2154
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 4: autumn suit him and he said, I did so much

2155
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 4: for this motherfucker.

2156
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 1: I I you know what I mean. I did so much,

2157
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 1: and I hooked him up with my sister kilt him

2158
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:17,880
Speaker 1: at that moment. He did.

2159
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:21,719
Speaker 4: He did it luckily, but he theres repercussions to that action.

2160
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 1: But that that that's how upset he was.

2161
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:25,719
Speaker 4: And you would think that a motherfucker would be loyal

2162
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:27,800
Speaker 4: to you after you've done so much for him, and

2163
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 4: he hasn't done something for you, but he'll he'll find

2164
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:31,599
Speaker 4: a reason to let you know that you're not welcome.

2165
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,760
Speaker 4: It's spit in your face, so so I don't I

2166
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:36,600
Speaker 4: don't want to hear about that loyalty ship that that

2167
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 4: was disrespectful. It's about respect because that's an ongoing process

2168
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 4: that we keep building with each other. I can't I

2169
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 4: can't expect you to be loyal to me for something

2170
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:50,760
Speaker 4: I did yesterday if I continue to be disrespectful to

2171
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:51,759
Speaker 4: you today and tomorrow.

2172
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the easy answer for him.

2173
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 3: You ain't suosed to take a shop, but I got

2174
01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 3: a shop. Yeah that was mad deep, Holy shit, I'm

2175
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 3: gonna take a pepiece. Oh yeah, Harry Quick, Thomas Slim,

2176
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:11,959
Speaker 3: we did everything.

2177
01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 1: What is going on with you and Joe Biden? Wow?

2178
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 1: Why y'all can't get along? Well, he can't get along

2179
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 1: with me. I'm fine with him. Yeah, we can't do

2180
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 1: like a panel together. We can't do a panel together.

2181
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 4: And I mean he said he told Academics he's willing

2182
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 4: to do an interview with me on Academics platform. But

2183
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 4: my thing is that there's so much baggage between and him,

2184
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 4: is that we have to have a conversation like.

2185
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna go on drink champ stop talking to

2186
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 1: you first.

2187
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:46,600
Speaker 4: Okay, you know what I'm saying, right, But Liten, we

2188
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:50,640
Speaker 4: don't have a one percent thing compared to what me

2189
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 4: and Joe had.

2190
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 3: Okay, but what happened like because all right, so how then?

2191
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so what happened was this? Okay, this story?

2192
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:03,680
Speaker 4: So I did an interview Joe. Joe lived down the

2193
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 4: street from me when I lived in Jersey. That was

2194
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 4: Jersey boys. Yeah, two thousand and eight. I'm watching flat TV.

2195
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 1: Hit him up. I want to do you know, hey,

2196
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 1: you want to do an interview?

2197
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:13,880
Speaker 4: Cool show up to where he lives to an interview,

2198
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 4: puts it out. Whatever life goes on.

2199
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 1: Is to Harry Days? Is this the Harry Days he

2200
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 1: was dating to Harry?

2201
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 4: Yes, mister absolute, I'm sorry, you'll see why. So I

2202
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:31,639
Speaker 4: do the interview with Joe. Interview comes out. So life

2203
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:34,760
Speaker 4: goes on. You know, we're doing interviews, we're doing interviews,

2204
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:37,799
Speaker 4: and you know, Joe was kind of like the early

2205
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:40,919
Speaker 4: put his life out on the internet.

2206
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 1: Him and to Harry, well, he was a blogger. There

2207
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 1: we go. He was one of the early hip hop bloggers.

2208
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 4: So he's putting out his stuff blah blah, and I'm

2209
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 4: I'm following his stuff.

2210
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 1: I'm following his YouTube channel whatever.

2211
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:53,879
Speaker 4: And I go and watch a video and He's dissing

2212
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 4: this rapper named Ransom, right. He was like, oh yeah,

2213
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 4: Ransom is like a Honda nomal laborck. He needs or

2214
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 4: something something something. He's just I'm like, I didn't know

2215
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 4: who Ransom was.

2216
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 1: I looked him up.

2217
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 4: It was a dope rapper out of Jersey, you know.

2218
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 4: So we reached out to Ransom. It's like, hey, you know,

2219
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 4: we see.

2220
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 3: Okay, let me stop you right there. I gotta be

2221
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 3: this guy today. You have a relationship with Joe. I

2222
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 3: did an interview with Joe. That doesn't make difference in

2223
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:20,880
Speaker 3: one interview. That's true, one interview.

2224
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:23,679
Speaker 1: But most of us, I gotta be Devil's advocate. Okay.

2225
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 3: Once I do an interview for you, I kind of

2226
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:27,599
Speaker 3: feel like I have.

2227
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 1: A relationship with you to a certain extent.

2228
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 3: So do you think that Joe automatically thought that damn,

2229
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 3: how the hell I just did an interview with him,

2230
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 3: and now he's going to interview my enemy.

2231
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 1: You think that could that be where it started? I'm

2232
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:44,960
Speaker 1: not sure. Okay, absolutely, and I take responsibility for that.

2233
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:48,880
Speaker 4: Okay, I understand that. You also got to understand that

2234
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 4: in today's climate, you just go on Instagram and you

2235
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 4: make a response video and then everyone picks it up

2236
01:50:57,080 --> 01:51:00,680
Speaker 4: and then bold, let me represent for you. This is

2237
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 4: before YouTube. I mean, it's before Instagram, before even Twitter.

2238
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 1: Twitter was let me represent for you. Yeah.

2239
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 3: There's been times I've done black interviews and I I

2240
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 3: regretted what I said. I hold you yeah, and you

2241
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 3: honored me, yes, sir, So okay, continue, I just want

2242
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:19,639
Speaker 3: I just want to be clear of that. Yeah, there's

2243
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:21,599
Speaker 3: been times, plenty of times I called you, I said,

2244
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 3: you know what, I might have not been in the

2245
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 3: right frame of mind.

2246
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 1: I remember we did the interview in your hotel room.

2247
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:29,680
Speaker 4: Yep, yep, you called me up and you had me

2248
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 4: cut out like ninety percent of it.

2249
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, my man, right man. I think the Kevin Gates

2250
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 1: part was the only part that you're.

2251
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:37,559
Speaker 4: Okay, the leading and then that's the Kevin Gates.

2252
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like Kevin Gates.

2253
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, the part about his cousin like cousin, Yeah,

2254
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 4: sort of.

2255
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 1: A funny moment. I said, I keep this from you.

2256
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:46,599
Speaker 4: I think, fine, I keep this on it, but everything

2257
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,640
Speaker 4: else I took out. Okay, yes, you actual take you

2258
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 4: know something. This is like a professional courtesy in the business,

2259
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:54,360
Speaker 4: because I do interviews on other platforms. I called him

2260
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:55,560
Speaker 4: up and said, hey, can take this part out, like

2261
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 4: I didn't Breakfast Club. It's one part where I felt like,

2262
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 4: as well of this guy is going to turn into

2263
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:02,760
Speaker 4: a big fucking thing, so you take it out.

2264
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 1: They took it out.

2265
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 4: Life goes on, you know what I'm saying, and usually

2266
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 4: before it comes out, that's the time.

2267
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 1: To ask not to write it out. And I do

2268
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,559
Speaker 1: that for you. People do it for me. Whatever. Right,

2269
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 1: So Joe talks about.

2270
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:18,680
Speaker 4: Ransom and we hit up Ransom say hey, do you

2271
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 4: want to respond?

2272
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 1: Ransom's like absolutely.

2273
01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 4: Hell, yeah, I want to respond. So I send one

2274
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:28,520
Speaker 4: of my camera people to go interview Ransom. Ransom responds

2275
01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 4: and then he raises it up a notch. He starts, Yeah,

2276
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 4: Ransom starts talking about how Fabulous was messing with Tahari,

2277
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 4: which I guess is the truth because they used to

2278
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 4: date before Joe.

2279
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:40,719
Speaker 1: Whatever else.

2280
01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 4: Joe went ballistic after seeing this interview and decided to

2281
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 4: get a crew together and then take it from a

2282
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 4: war of words to actually a physical situation. And he

2283
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:57,640
Speaker 4: goes and goes on Ransom's block and some sort of

2284
01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 4: altercation happens. How do you have anything to do with that,

2285
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:03,640
Speaker 4: because I will and I'll explain to you.

2286
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 1: I'll I'll explain to you.

2287
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 4: Right, an altercation happens when Ransom I guess, like a

2288
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:14,759
Speaker 4: gunshot was involved and stuff like that. It was serious.

2289
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 4: But she don't really know any of this yet until

2290
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:22,559
Speaker 4: Joe puts out his response video bragging about what just

2291
01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 4: happened and threatening Ransom that if he says anything, he's

2292
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 4: going to put out the video of the altercation.

2293
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:32,720
Speaker 1: So we put that up.

2294
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 4: I mean, we put that on the site, and you know,

2295
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 4: we're covering the back and forth, so you know, because

2296
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:40,360
Speaker 4: lat tv dot com is a news site. So then

2297
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:44,320
Speaker 4: we get a call from Ransom and he was like, yo,

2298
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 4: I got a video I want to give you that

2299
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:51,800
Speaker 4: I want you all to post. Ransom mistakenly on math

2300
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:53,680
Speaker 4: Hoffa said that I was filming it or something. I

2301
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:56,639
Speaker 4: wasn't even there. I wasn't there for either of the filmings.

2302
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:58,879
Speaker 1: So Ransom said that on map.

2303
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:02,000
Speaker 4: Hop math hoff I was like, oh, Lad was not

2304
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 4: there when we interviewed him about the Joe situation. Lad

2305
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 4: was definitely not there when he handed me this video

2306
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:11,559
Speaker 4: that he shot by himself, and when we watched the

2307
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:17,720
Speaker 4: video it's Ransom and his crew walking up to one

2308
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 4: of Joe Bunns people, not Joe, not Joe, one of

2309
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 4: Joe buns people confronting him about what had just happened,

2310
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:28,719
Speaker 4: and Ransom's man slapping Joe Bunds too in the video,

2311
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 4: and we put that out.

2312
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 1: And then Joe Bunden.

2313
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 4: Basically makes the video and the responses like, fine, Ransom,

2314
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 4: you win, Glad you win.

2315
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:43,839
Speaker 1: Y'all are stupider than me, you know, y'all.

2316
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 4: Are fucking ridiculously, Nah, fuck this, I ain't doing this

2317
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 4: dumb shit anymore, whatever, whatever, and then.

2318
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 1: Ransom as I'm going to jail over some shit over

2319
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 1: something else, well.

2320
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 4: Over the situation that happened and the video that he

2321
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:02,839
Speaker 4: wanted to put out. I think ultimately was was involved

2322
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 4: in that, the video that he gave me to put out,

2323
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 4: the video that he provided formul This is the.

2324
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 3: Ways why people think you work with the police. That's

2325
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 3: the reason why right there, which is yeah, because that

2326
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 3: you know ship like that.

2327
01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 4: We said that the video is him, is one of

2328
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 4: his mans slapping somebody.

2329
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 1: He didn't go to jail. Fact, he posted it. He

2330
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:24,960
Speaker 1: asked me to post it. But you don't have to

2331
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 1: pooke it, but of course I don't. But he you know,

2332
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 1: there's repercussions to those videos.

2333
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 4: He asked me to post it. It's a it's a

2334
01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 4: slapping video. I didn't even know about any of the

2335
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:36,440
Speaker 4: gunshot shit or whatever else. It's a slapping video. Like

2336
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:37,880
Speaker 4: what is that a misdemeanor?

2337
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:40,160
Speaker 1: If that? Seriously?

2338
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:42,760
Speaker 2: But it could snowballs. I guess that's what people will

2339
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 2: say that, like would you do that today? Would I

2340
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 2: do that today?

2341
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 1: Would you?

2342
01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 2: Would you continue back and forth knowing that it could

2343
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 2: spiral out of control? No?

2344
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, see, but this is but this is but this

2345
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:57,840
Speaker 4: is me at fifty, right, you know, we were you know,

2346
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 4: but I also what I'm fifty fifty, a fifty years

2347
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 4: old now, yet at thirty exactly, which was my age

2348
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 4: as a thirty four year old, you know what I mean.

2349
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 4: But you also realized that, Okay, I'm going to pass

2350
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 4: on it, but someone else is going to put it out, right,

2351
01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? So me not putting it

2352
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 4: out really makes no difference at this point, right, But

2353
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 4: that's also right, but somebody, but there's lots of stuff

2354
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:27,000
Speaker 4: I don't put out there. There's lots of stuff that

2355
01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 4: crosses my desk and I'll actually call the person up

2356
01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 4: and I'll say.

2357
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 1: Listen, I just got this video or I just got this.

2358
01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:37,720
Speaker 4: Paperwork and it's about you, and it's legitimate, and I'm

2359
01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 4: not going to put it out, but I'm letting you

2360
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 4: know that it's out there.

2361
01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 1: But as somebody else said, what else might And I'm

2362
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:44,520
Speaker 1: going to give you an early warning on this.

2363
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 4: But I don't need to be the guy at the

2364
01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:49,400
Speaker 4: edge of all the drama anymore. Like but you know,

2365
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 4: this was a very different hungry Flad back then, you

2366
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And this was very early in

2367
01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:57,640
Speaker 4: the Internet, and this was very it's normal now.

2368
01:56:57,560 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't normal back then.

2369
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 4: And because of that chain of events, and you know,

2370
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:04,720
Speaker 4: and it just turned into a fuck you from both ends.

2371
01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 4: For the next however many years, they'd be fuck Flad

2372
01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 4: and they'd be like funck Joe. He would say some

2373
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 4: shit I was, and he would do an interview and

2374
01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 4: I would be brought up and I'll do anything a

2375
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:13,920
Speaker 4: boy him and he'd be brought up. And he just

2376
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 4: went back and forth, went back and forth, you know.

2377
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 4: But but in my eyes him and Ransom are cool now,

2378
01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 4: and that's who we really got into it. That's who

2379
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:27,720
Speaker 4: really the altercation happened. I'm just covering it. Him and

2380
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 4: Ransom are cool. He's still mad at me. I'm always like,

2381
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 4: I'm not tripping, Like, if Joe wants to get on

2382
01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:34,800
Speaker 4: the phone with me later today, I'll have a conversation

2383
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 4: with him and I'll take responsibility for the.

2384
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 1: Mistakes that I made.

2385
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if he will, but it doesn't matter,

2386
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and you know what I mean.

2387
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:44,400
Speaker 4: Will we can we do business at one point? Of

2388
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 4: course we can. That's really more on him, but we

2389
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 4: can't just think about it when me and you had

2390
01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 4: our tension. I'm notally gonna come do drink Champs not

2391
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 4: knowing what I'm walking into, you know what i mean.

2392
01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:55,520
Speaker 1: Could be an.

2393
01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 4: Ambush like ambush dream No.

2394
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, you know, you don't know. Your past

2395
01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 1: is the past. Your past is a past.

2396
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is like, yeah, so so that

2397
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 4: that's really the me and Joe story, And neither one

2398
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 4: of us were scared of another each other. We all

2399
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:16,320
Speaker 4: have money, we all have security, we all have guns

2400
01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 4: like we all.

2401
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:17,720
Speaker 1: We all men.

2402
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 4: We all have gotten to this point by standing up

2403
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 4: on our on our you know, principles and ideals. We

2404
01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 4: both have big fan bases, like, you know, it is

2405
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 4: what it is that that's that's me and Joe in a

2406
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:32,240
Speaker 4: nut show. But I've always said, like it's not that serious.

2407
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:35,280
Speaker 4: I've been way more serious ship than than what me

2408
01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 4: and Joe have gone through. Like that's is light as

2409
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:39,720
Speaker 4: far as I'm concerned. So if he ever wants to

2410
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 4: have a conversation with me, but you know, he just

2411
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 4: had doctor Umar Johnson on and well my name when

2412
01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 4: Umar brought up my name is like fuck Glad, you know,

2413
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:50,880
Speaker 4: so clearly hear well, no Umar brought my name up

2414
01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:55,560
Speaker 4: when talking about that, say, oh, Umar just was like

2415
01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:59,160
Speaker 4: I'm out here building schools. DJ Blad ain't building schools.

2416
01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:05,360
Speaker 4: Also not taking money for the schools that haven't been

2417
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:08,360
Speaker 4: launched yet. But that's another story. But when he said that,

2418
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:12,840
Speaker 4: Joe's like fuck flag oh fuck, but whatever, it's fuck

2419
01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:14,840
Speaker 4: Glad like but it's just words like you know what

2420
01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:16,920
Speaker 4: I mean, but it is that, you know, But it's

2421
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:19,680
Speaker 4: like I funck Joe too, you know, And this is

2422
01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 4: and this is how we keep probing and this may

2423
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:23,760
Speaker 4: be past our lifetime, so who knows, but.

2424
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm not tripping, but I'm really I'm really have no.

2425
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 4: Animosity towards him at all. I am happy for his success.

2426
01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:34,280
Speaker 4: He's really carved out a lane. I feel that he

2427
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 4: is also like one of the few popular podcasts that

2428
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 4: do well without external guests. The rest of us really

2429
01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:49,880
Speaker 4: revolves around the quality of our guests. He's able to

2430
01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 4: pull it together with his own crew of people, and

2431
01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 4: sometimes he has guests, sometimes he doesn't, but you know.

2432
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:55,600
Speaker 1: What I mean, So he has to. You have to

2433
01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:58,640
Speaker 1: give up props for that. Any helped pioneer the space. Yeah, everybody,

2434
01:59:58,840 --> 01:59:59,640
Speaker 1: at least hip hop.

2435
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:03,480
Speaker 4: Sure, absolutely, man, and he deserves all the money in

2436
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:06,080
Speaker 4: the accolades that that that he's been getting. I've never

2437
02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:09,600
Speaker 4: hated on Joe and his business on any level, but

2438
02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:12,360
Speaker 4: you know, it's fuck me, fuck you too. That's basically

2439
02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:16,560
Speaker 4: we take a shot. Sure, let's follow solo solo.

2440
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:22,720
Speaker 3: Oh shit, that's the moment Wan Nos coming out sallow.

2441
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:31,680
Speaker 3: I heard Elliott Wilson say recently, Yeah, he was like

2442
02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 3: journalism and being media used to be corny, used to

2443
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:39,520
Speaker 3: be like people used to like stab you for having

2444
02:00:39,520 --> 02:00:43,880
Speaker 3: an opinion, and now everybody wants to be media have

2445
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:45,800
Speaker 3: you ever a sore this day coming.

2446
02:00:48,080 --> 02:00:54,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not surprised, meaning meaning that, well, I mean,

2447
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:57,040
Speaker 4: let's let's just let's just keep it one hund keep

2448
02:00:57,040 --> 02:00:58,760
Speaker 4: it on it Like, there's just a lot more money

2449
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 4: in it now people realize that, right, So so you could,

2450
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:03,280
Speaker 4: you could paint it how you want to paint it,

2451
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:04,360
Speaker 4: but there's.

2452
02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 1: Just a lot more money in it. And social media

2453
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:06,720
Speaker 1: has everybody.

2454
02:01:07,280 --> 02:01:10,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's easier to build up a following and

2455
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 4: and you know what I'm saying, and especially if you're

2456
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:18,560
Speaker 4: already a celebrity and have like Kiki Palmer has a

2457
02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:23,080
Speaker 4: fucking podcast, Pharrell Farrell has a podcast, Like who could

2458
02:01:23,080 --> 02:01:25,600
Speaker 4: Farrell not get? Like I was supposed to go, like

2459
02:01:25,680 --> 02:01:26,600
Speaker 4: I compete with Farrell?

2460
02:01:29,000 --> 02:01:31,840
Speaker 1: Do you know how hard that is? It's not fucking fair.

2461
02:01:32,840 --> 02:01:36,160
Speaker 1: Not only easy Farrell the mega producer, but now he's

2462
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:40,120
Speaker 1: thehead of Louis Vinell. You know what I mean.

2463
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:43,440
Speaker 4: You might get some some exclusive Louise sneakers at some

2464
02:01:43,480 --> 02:01:45,000
Speaker 4: point for saying, yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

2465
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:47,600
Speaker 1: It took me so long. I had a whole Louis.

2466
02:01:49,080 --> 02:01:52,960
Speaker 3: Outfit and I was like, damn fuck, if I'm wear this,

2467
02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:56,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fuck up, And I said, you know what,

2468
02:01:57,800 --> 02:01:59,000
Speaker 3: I'm beeting with Fat Joe.

2469
02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:02,280
Speaker 1: Fed Joe brought me this sweater. He brought me to

2470
02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:07,920
Speaker 1: sweater like who was there? No, not three hours ago,

2471
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:11,200
Speaker 1: so six months ago. I couldn't fit it.

2472
02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:15,280
Speaker 3: So I had to have a meeting with Fat Joe

2473
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:17,440
Speaker 3: kind of mean and I was like, I kind of

2474
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:19,120
Speaker 3: wear this, and I was like it was it's.

2475
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:22,680
Speaker 1: Just worked perfect. But but I'm proud of for real

2476
02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:25,560
Speaker 1: taking over Louis. But fucking they didn't. He did super

2477
02:02:25,640 --> 02:02:29,080
Speaker 1: dug Amen? What what? What? What? Amen?

2478
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 4: That was the record I was playing when I moved

2479
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:36,000
Speaker 4: to New York.

2480
02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:39,760
Speaker 1: Home Boy I came to girl was looking at me.

2481
02:02:39,880 --> 02:02:40,440
Speaker 4: That that be.

2482
02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:44,520
Speaker 1: One of the greatest beats of hip hop. Yes right,

2483
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to.

2484
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:48,240
Speaker 4: Compete with this. Motherfucking when it comes to guests, got

2485
02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:51,640
Speaker 4: sins on the show? Yes, yes, I'm supposed to compete

2486
02:02:51,640 --> 02:02:52,920
Speaker 4: with that. I'm supposed to compete with that.

2487
02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:56,440
Speaker 1: DJ Blag. I'm not gonna lie. How do you feel

2488
02:02:56,480 --> 02:02:59,040
Speaker 1: about Saye Low? I don't.

2489
02:02:59,840 --> 02:03:01,840
Speaker 4: I haven't watched any of his interviews. You know, I mean,

2490
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:05,920
Speaker 4: listen interview. You work for Apple. You're gonna get Apple?

2491
02:03:06,360 --> 02:03:08,120
Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean, you don't get people

2492
02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:11,240
Speaker 4: one of the big platforms, like working for Spotify, you're

2493
02:03:11,240 --> 02:03:15,160
Speaker 4: gonna get You're gonna get special treatment and special favors

2494
02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:16,000
Speaker 4: and everything else like that.

2495
02:03:16,360 --> 02:03:18,360
Speaker 1: I haven't watched enough of his stuff to say is

2496
02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:20,760
Speaker 1: good or bad. I'm not just gonna It's not like

2497
02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm hating or jealous of it. You know, No, No,

2498
02:03:23,880 --> 02:03:25,920
Speaker 1: he has his role. But you know he doesn't own

2499
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:27,320
Speaker 1: his own content and everything else like that.

2500
02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 4: He he has his own role in what he does,

2501
02:03:30,240 --> 02:03:31,680
Speaker 4: and you know he gets a lot of big guests

2502
02:03:31,680 --> 02:03:32,320
Speaker 4: and everything else like that.

2503
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:33,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

2504
02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:35,720
Speaker 4: It's him and I do differently. But but to answer

2505
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:38,280
Speaker 4: your question, there's just a lot more money in it

2506
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:46,000
Speaker 4: right now. Yes, And when you're already a celebrity, it's

2507
02:03:46,160 --> 02:03:49,560
Speaker 4: much easy. And you know when people come to me

2508
02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:51,040
Speaker 4: and say, hey, I want to start a podcast, what

2509
02:03:51,120 --> 02:03:51,800
Speaker 4: do you think I should do?

2510
02:03:52,240 --> 02:03:53,480
Speaker 1: I always tell him the same thing.

2511
02:03:54,760 --> 02:03:57,800
Speaker 4: All the big podcasts, when you look at the landscape,

2512
02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:07,680
Speaker 4: they're only because of the guests that they can get consistence, right, Kodak,

2513
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 4: Black Kanye, You know what I'm saying, Like the level

2514
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:17,080
Speaker 4: of guests that you guys have gotten, nas like you know,

2515
02:04:17,120 --> 02:04:19,120
Speaker 4: I remember back when you and I were talking. I

2516
02:04:19,160 --> 02:04:22,720
Speaker 4: congratulate you for that, like you are where you are, yes,

2517
02:04:23,200 --> 02:04:26,200
Speaker 4: because of Nori and efn I get it. You take

2518
02:04:26,240 --> 02:04:28,400
Speaker 4: away all those big guests and it's drink Champs is

2519
02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:30,640
Speaker 4: a very different drink Champs. You know what I'm saying.

2520
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:33,320
Speaker 4: It's just we're just keeping winder. You take glads guests away,

2521
02:04:33,400 --> 02:04:35,880
Speaker 4: and if it's just me, like it's a very different

2522
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:38,200
Speaker 4: flat TV. You take away Boosy, you take away Yyo,

2523
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:41,080
Speaker 4: would take away you know, the Mike Tyson's in the

2524
02:04:41,080 --> 02:04:44,800
Speaker 4: world like whatever. Like you know, so you're already a celebrity,

2525
02:04:44,840 --> 02:04:46,120
Speaker 4: you already have relationships.

2526
02:04:46,440 --> 02:04:48,320
Speaker 1: What's the story you tell? Yeah?

2527
02:04:48,400 --> 02:04:50,040
Speaker 4: No, but well you know and yeah, I mean listen,

2528
02:04:50,200 --> 02:04:52,960
Speaker 4: there is a skill set. But you know, you get

2529
02:04:53,000 --> 02:04:55,240
Speaker 4: the right guests and you figure out how to do this.

2530
02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:57,960
Speaker 4: You know, it's not like Shannon Sharp had to do

2531
02:04:58,000 --> 02:04:58,880
Speaker 4: a whole lot with Kat.

2532
02:04:58,720 --> 02:05:02,840
Speaker 1: Williams right right, Carl Williams let go right.

2533
02:05:03,280 --> 02:05:09,400
Speaker 4: Shanna is oozy loaded loaded like he loaded Yeah, and

2534
02:05:09,520 --> 02:05:11,960
Speaker 4: he had an extra clip in his two ears.

2535
02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:15,440
Speaker 1: Yes, he was read the ship and sucks. You know

2536
02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:15,880
Speaker 1: what I mean.

2537
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:18,280
Speaker 4: You're like, where'd you pull out there and taking level

2538
02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:20,840
Speaker 4: Sandy Show or not. But Shannon essentially just had to

2539
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:23,520
Speaker 4: press the record button, sit back if she wand not

2540
02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:27,160
Speaker 4: talk during that whole interview. They just let Cat be Cat.

2541
02:05:27,400 --> 02:05:29,920
Speaker 4: It would be just as impactful. Yes, you know what

2542
02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:31,320
Speaker 4: I'm saying very true.

2543
02:05:31,480 --> 02:05:35,480
Speaker 2: But my only pushback to that is that it's consistency too,

2544
02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:39,320
Speaker 2: because those are anomalies when you have those big you know,

2545
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:42,640
Speaker 2: episodes or whatever. Guess because when we started Drink Champs,

2546
02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:46,240
Speaker 2: not even CBS who distributors believed in it really that much.

2547
02:05:46,240 --> 02:05:49,200
Speaker 2: They were like, let's see do some demos, and we

2548
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:51,920
Speaker 2: did a couple of episodes and and it just it

2549
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:54,560
Speaker 2: took off because I think at that time we caught

2550
02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:56,280
Speaker 2: lightning in a bottle. It was it was also the

2551
02:05:56,400 --> 02:05:58,920
Speaker 2: environment that we were getting people that people kind of

2552
02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:01,600
Speaker 2: had forgotten about a little it, and we're bringing back

2553
02:06:01,640 --> 02:06:03,720
Speaker 2: these stories and rehashing this stuff. And I think that

2554
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:05,920
Speaker 2: that's a big component for a lot of podcasts, finding

2555
02:06:05,960 --> 02:06:08,720
Speaker 2: your own lane, being consistent and yeah, of course you

2556
02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:11,520
Speaker 2: get big guests on a certain consistent basis.

2557
02:06:12,080 --> 02:06:16,280
Speaker 1: Again you're consistency and everything else like that, And now

2558
02:06:16,640 --> 02:06:18,440
Speaker 1: you want another shot, I just got I just him

2559
02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:23,760
Speaker 1: the shop. So so this is so great because you you.

2560
02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 8: Know, but.

2561
02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:31,200
Speaker 4: Now now the space is a lot more crowded since COVID.

2562
02:06:31,680 --> 02:06:34,600
Speaker 1: That's what everybody ever everyone.

2563
02:06:34,400 --> 02:06:40,800
Speaker 4: Started podcast Now now you have actors, athletes, everybody, you know,

2564
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:44,520
Speaker 4: wives of CEOs, you know.

2565
02:06:45,360 --> 02:06:52,000
Speaker 1: Everything, rock everything, everything, Everyone.

2566
02:06:51,560 --> 02:06:56,120
Speaker 4: Got podcasts and yo, you know it's you know, it

2567
02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:58,520
Speaker 4: was much easier to get interviews in two thousand and

2568
02:06:58,520 --> 02:07:00,480
Speaker 4: eight when I launched flat TV than it is now.

2569
02:07:01,040 --> 02:07:03,560
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, he's you're a certain degree because

2570
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:03,720
Speaker 1: we have.

2571
02:07:03,800 --> 02:07:06,160
Speaker 4: The relationships, that we have the track record, and we

2572
02:07:06,240 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 4: have budgets and anything else like that.

2573
02:07:08,240 --> 02:07:10,760
Speaker 1: But you know, listen that I mean, I'm competing. It's

2574
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:13,640
Speaker 1: far l But I am like when I see for

2575
02:07:13,720 --> 02:07:15,920
Speaker 1: all interviews like I got to outdo that, you really

2576
02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:19,040
Speaker 1: feel you're competing with him. I know what he means.

2577
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:21,040
Speaker 1: I know what he means, but I just don't see

2578
02:07:21,400 --> 02:07:26,520
Speaker 1: the comparison to competing. But he's one main correer I am.

2579
02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:28,880
Speaker 4: There is a pair of eyeballs that I want to

2580
02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 4: go to my channel as opposed to his.

2581
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:34,680
Speaker 1: All right, let me just don't say.

2582
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:38,480
Speaker 2: Will go to yours is not necessarily not necessarily I'm

2583
02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:39,200
Speaker 2: just saying it could.

2584
02:07:39,400 --> 02:07:42,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying, you want to what's the most important thing

2585
02:07:42,920 --> 02:07:45,880
Speaker 4: you got is time and time is limited, you see

2586
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So so you could say that, but

2587
02:07:48,160 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 4: I first only has a short sur amount of.

2588
02:07:49,520 --> 02:07:49,960
Speaker 1: Time to watch.

2589
02:07:49,960 --> 02:07:52,120
Speaker 3: You got to remember, you're one of the most loyalist

2590
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:55,720
Speaker 3: people ever. When we had Kendrick Lamar.

2591
02:07:56,680 --> 02:07:59,080
Speaker 2: At Rock the Bells or Wave, we didn't have Kendrick Lamore.

2592
02:07:59,160 --> 02:08:01,120
Speaker 1: No, we never had them saying that he was supposed

2593
02:08:01,120 --> 02:08:03,120
Speaker 1: to come to the Lady.

2594
02:08:03,680 --> 02:08:07,320
Speaker 3: That ship right once I tweeted it. I tweeted you

2595
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:11,560
Speaker 3: got questions for uh chiusting Lamar?

2596
02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:14,360
Speaker 1: And then it was rolling loud that he was coming

2597
02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:15,200
Speaker 1: to myrow loud.

2598
02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:18,920
Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden people called us and was

2599
02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:22,920
Speaker 3: like the interview is not happening along and then zaying

2600
02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:25,240
Speaker 3: Lowe have it and let me just say something because

2601
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:28,240
Speaker 3: I'm not going as Zaye low at all. I'm never

2602
02:08:28,520 --> 02:08:31,720
Speaker 3: like actually just saying low just the politics that come

2603
02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:33,680
Speaker 3: along with Zaye Law.

2604
02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:36,040
Speaker 1: It's not him using that as an example.

2605
02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:40,720
Speaker 3: I love Larry Jackson, I love everybody, but they didn't

2606
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:42,320
Speaker 3: understand what was going on.

2607
02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:52,560
Speaker 1: I did, because that interview was gone very fast.

2608
02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:56,880
Speaker 4: Shy don't renounce ship until it's already done, unless it's

2609
02:08:56,880 --> 02:08:58,720
Speaker 4: a regular guest that I know that no one could

2610
02:08:58,720 --> 02:09:02,040
Speaker 4: throw money ship. Yeah, you know, I'll say, hey, what

2611
02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:04,080
Speaker 4: do y'all want to want me? You know, like like

2612
02:09:04,160 --> 02:09:06,480
Speaker 4: I have like a community section, like a paid member

2613
02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:08,720
Speaker 4: section of lat TV, So I go to the members

2614
02:09:08,760 --> 02:09:09,680
Speaker 4: to be like, hey, whish has.

2615
02:09:09,520 --> 02:09:11,960
Speaker 1: Boosy my next interview? Cause I know that no one

2616
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:15,480
Speaker 1: could stop an interview between me and Boosey. It's just impossible,

2617
02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:16,240
Speaker 1: you know.

2618
02:09:16,520 --> 02:09:20,000
Speaker 4: But if I had a Kendrick interview in the bag,

2619
02:09:20,840 --> 02:09:26,160
Speaker 4: I wouldn't tell myself about it, you know, just.

2620
02:09:26,240 --> 02:09:29,360
Speaker 1: In defense and to explain that situation. It was the

2621
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:31,840
Speaker 1: label setting it up, and then he got in late

2622
02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:33,680
Speaker 1: and he was headlining rolling out, he had to get

2623
02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:36,480
Speaker 1: straight to the stage. Yes, very true. So we were

2624
02:09:36,520 --> 02:09:38,200
Speaker 1: cutting it clothes with that one. Yeah, but you still

2625
02:09:38,280 --> 02:09:40,400
Speaker 1: could make shit happen. You want to make sure.

2626
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:42,520
Speaker 2: But now when the thing is, you don't know how

2627
02:09:42,560 --> 02:09:44,360
Speaker 2: the communication is with his team, and when.

2628
02:09:44,240 --> 02:09:45,200
Speaker 1: The label setting it up.

2629
02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:48,320
Speaker 4: You know that we haven't had a TD interview since

2630
02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:51,160
Speaker 4: like twenty ten. It was the InterScript that was actually

2631
02:09:51,200 --> 02:09:53,920
Speaker 4: those you know and me and Top know each other.

2632
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:57,240
Speaker 4: He called me last year, like, you know, we weren't neighbors.

2633
02:09:57,280 --> 02:09:59,680
Speaker 1: I think. Actually, so it is what it is, man,

2634
02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:04,280
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Are you satisfied with what

2635
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:08,520
Speaker 1: hip hop has presented to you?

2636
02:10:09,880 --> 02:10:10,040
Speaker 3: Oh?

2637
02:10:10,920 --> 02:10:18,000
Speaker 4: It's surpassed my expectation this past man, Like like I

2638
02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:22,400
Speaker 4: started later, like I moved, like I became. I was

2639
02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:24,400
Speaker 4: doing hip hop full time when I was about twenty

2640
02:10:24,440 --> 02:10:27,560
Speaker 4: eight twenty nine. I wasn't like you that that started

2641
02:10:27,560 --> 02:10:29,840
Speaker 4: as a team. Yes, I just grew up into it

2642
02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:32,240
Speaker 4: and always has been part of it, and grew up

2643
02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:35,360
Speaker 4: in a section surrounded by rappers, you know what I mean,

2644
02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:38,160
Speaker 4: like like you grew up around the nases and the

2645
02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:41,960
Speaker 4: mob deeps that came later to me in life, and then.

2646
02:10:43,640 --> 02:10:46,120
Speaker 1: I just thought it would be a hobby, you know, and.

2647
02:10:50,360 --> 02:10:53,200
Speaker 4: To realize one day, like I'm actually part of this,

2648
02:10:54,520 --> 02:10:59,680
Speaker 4: Like I'm legitimately part of this. Hip hop fans are

2649
02:11:00,080 --> 02:11:09,240
Speaker 4: fans of dj vladd A vlad Group no A Vladislav Lubufney,

2650
02:11:09,320 --> 02:11:12,960
Speaker 4: the name I was born with a kid from Ukraine

2651
02:11:13,480 --> 02:11:17,520
Speaker 4: that didn't speak English when he was born. That now

2652
02:11:17,680 --> 02:11:21,840
Speaker 4: I'm actually a real that's worth worth more than me

2653
02:11:22,240 --> 02:11:25,240
Speaker 4: than any check or any you know, award or trophy

2654
02:11:25,480 --> 02:11:28,960
Speaker 4: or car, house or piece of clothing.

2655
02:11:29,040 --> 02:11:33,160
Speaker 1: It's like I'm actually part of the hip hop story

2656
02:11:33,520 --> 02:11:34,320
Speaker 1: in my own way.

2657
02:11:34,520 --> 02:11:37,920
Speaker 4: I'm not a rapper, I'm not a producer, right, I

2658
02:11:37,960 --> 02:11:40,680
Speaker 4: don't sign artists, but I do what I do, and

2659
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:44,200
Speaker 4: I do it at the highest level, and I have

2660
02:11:44,280 --> 02:11:47,400
Speaker 4: millions of people tune in every day to hear what

2661
02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:50,400
Speaker 4: the fuck I got to say in this genre that

2662
02:11:50,520 --> 02:11:53,160
Speaker 4: I love that I've devoted a large chunk of my

2663
02:11:53,240 --> 02:11:58,680
Speaker 4: life to really at this point, yeah, they're from about

2664
02:11:58,720 --> 02:12:00,680
Speaker 4: twenty Yeah, I'm almost half my life to you at

2665
02:12:00,720 --> 02:12:05,120
Speaker 4: this point. Like I didn't think this was realistically gonna happen,

2666
02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:07,920
Speaker 4: did I? Was I watching you OMTV raps say yeah,

2667
02:12:07,920 --> 02:12:11,400
Speaker 4: I'm going to be the next head lover. Did I

2668
02:12:12,320 --> 02:12:16,840
Speaker 4: read Double XL saying and The Source and say, yeah,

2669
02:12:16,880 --> 02:12:19,360
Speaker 4: one day I'm gonna have a mediolgist bigger than both

2670
02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:21,840
Speaker 4: of these motherfucking mediatists, which today is true?

2671
02:12:22,200 --> 02:12:22,480
Speaker 1: Wow?

2672
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:23,040
Speaker 4: Right?

2673
02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:26,600
Speaker 1: Lad TV is you combine Double XL and.

2674
02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:29,640
Speaker 4: The Source and you don't have a lad TV daily

2675
02:12:29,720 --> 02:12:32,960
Speaker 4: impact on any level? It is what it is, you know,

2676
02:12:33,400 --> 02:12:35,120
Speaker 4: shout out to the Freshman issue and that's where it

2677
02:12:35,200 --> 02:12:35,880
Speaker 4: ends for double X.

2678
02:12:37,520 --> 02:12:37,680
Speaker 1: You know.

2679
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:39,800
Speaker 4: So it's like the fact that I know that I'm

2680
02:12:39,880 --> 02:12:43,480
Speaker 4: part of this legitimately, and yeah, you gonna have your detractors.

2681
02:12:43,600 --> 02:12:46,200
Speaker 1: That's fine, everyone does, you know.

2682
02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:49,280
Speaker 4: Not everyone is a jay Z fan, not everyone as

2683
02:12:49,280 --> 02:12:51,360
Speaker 4: a NAS fan, not everyone's a Biggie and a Pock fan.

2684
02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:54,440
Speaker 1: But to know that I'm legitimately.

2685
02:12:54,080 --> 02:12:56,640
Speaker 4: Part of it has so exceeded my expectations because I

2686
02:12:56,720 --> 02:12:59,160
Speaker 4: didn't think this was realistically ever possible when I was

2687
02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:02,360
Speaker 4: listening to the first CZ album. You you came from

2688
02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:05,560
Speaker 4: a different mind state because early on it was clear

2689
02:13:05,640 --> 02:13:07,360
Speaker 4: that you were going to be part of this. You know,

2690
02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:10,360
Speaker 4: how old will you see? Ann album came out nineteen?

2691
02:13:10,800 --> 02:13:11,760
Speaker 1: How old were you? Hold?

2692
02:13:11,800 --> 02:13:14,839
Speaker 4: Are you? I was seventeen, That's what I'm your teenager

2693
02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:17,640
Speaker 4: my junior year in high school.

2694
02:13:17,680 --> 02:13:19,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me that I'm gonna be part of

2695
02:13:19,480 --> 02:13:19,840
Speaker 1: hip hop?

2696
02:13:20,240 --> 02:13:24,600
Speaker 4: Savontel, California, white kid named vlad Lo loved he fuck

2697
02:13:24,680 --> 02:13:25,120
Speaker 4: out of here?

2698
02:13:25,280 --> 02:13:29,040
Speaker 1: Come on joke? So, so what do you want with?

2699
02:13:29,360 --> 02:13:31,280
Speaker 1: What would you want your legacy to be known as

2700
02:13:31,960 --> 02:13:32,560
Speaker 1: in hip hop?

2701
02:13:38,960 --> 02:13:43,080
Speaker 4: Ultimately to take my ego out of it, because my

2702
02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:46,600
Speaker 4: ego is gonna go away when I go away. But

2703
02:13:48,520 --> 02:13:51,680
Speaker 4: when you look at the vlad TV catalog, the type

2704
02:13:51,720 --> 02:13:55,800
Speaker 4: of interviews that we do are life story pieces. That's five, right,

2705
02:13:56,560 --> 02:13:58,840
Speaker 4: That's what I do. When I met up with Trick

2706
02:13:58,880 --> 02:14:03,520
Speaker 4: Daddy today, we started birth in Liberty City and we

2707
02:14:03,640 --> 02:14:05,960
Speaker 4: talked about his mom who had eleven kids by ten

2708
02:14:06,000 --> 02:14:07,920
Speaker 4: different men, and.

2709
02:14:11,440 --> 02:14:12,280
Speaker 1: His mom had.

2710
02:14:12,200 --> 02:14:14,480
Speaker 4: Eleven kids by ten different men, and then his dad

2711
02:14:14,560 --> 02:14:17,480
Speaker 4: had about ten kids as well. So there's you know whatever,

2712
02:14:17,560 --> 02:14:21,760
Speaker 4: you have three you know, two dozen you know kids

2713
02:14:22,400 --> 02:14:25,680
Speaker 4: you know like and we take it piece by piece

2714
02:14:25,960 --> 02:14:28,680
Speaker 4: through this through through these set of events leading up

2715
02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:33,680
Speaker 4: to how he first started rapping, you know what I mean,

2716
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:35,960
Speaker 4: the trials and tribulations and all the albums and all

2717
02:14:36,000 --> 02:14:39,560
Speaker 4: the big songs to where we are right now. My

2718
02:14:39,720 --> 02:14:43,880
Speaker 4: collection of life pieces on important people of this era

2719
02:14:45,120 --> 02:14:49,440
Speaker 4: is probably the biggest collection in the hip hop space.

2720
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:53,760
Speaker 4: And the hip hop space includes people like John Witherspoon,

2721
02:14:53,800 --> 02:14:56,480
Speaker 4: who did his only life story piece with me. You know,

2722
02:14:57,920 --> 02:15:01,240
Speaker 4: it includes people that passed away they never got to

2723
02:15:01,280 --> 02:15:02,160
Speaker 4: tell their life story.

2724
02:15:02,200 --> 02:15:07,040
Speaker 1: Outside of lad TV. We have that collection, that.

2725
02:15:07,240 --> 02:15:12,320
Speaker 4: Catalog that, unless someone manages to destroy it somehow, will

2726
02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:17,520
Speaker 4: be around for thousands of years way past. My family

2727
02:15:17,600 --> 02:15:20,000
Speaker 4: will be able to benefit from this. But you know,

2728
02:15:20,200 --> 02:15:23,120
Speaker 4: that's cool. But when people write report like when you

2729
02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:27,360
Speaker 4: you know, like you watch a movie like Boomerang and

2730
02:15:27,440 --> 02:15:29,680
Speaker 4: you're like, yo, the mushall belt guy, like this guy's

2731
02:15:30,040 --> 02:15:32,360
Speaker 4: you watch Friday, Yo, Pop's like yo, who is this guy?

2732
02:15:32,440 --> 02:15:36,120
Speaker 4: There's only one place to find out who he really is. Yes,

2733
02:15:36,200 --> 02:15:38,360
Speaker 4: there's pieces, there's interviews that you could piece together and

2734
02:15:38,480 --> 02:15:41,720
Speaker 4: somehow mush it together, but to hear about how he.

2735
02:15:41,840 --> 02:15:42,840
Speaker 1: Became who he is.

2736
02:15:43,480 --> 02:15:48,040
Speaker 4: But we're the only ones that actually bothered to do

2737
02:15:48,200 --> 02:15:52,960
Speaker 4: the research and put our resources into that. And that's

2738
02:15:53,040 --> 02:15:55,120
Speaker 4: what I want the legacy to be, to leave behind

2739
02:15:55,200 --> 02:15:59,120
Speaker 4: these stories for people later on that were important to

2740
02:15:59,200 --> 02:16:01,520
Speaker 4: me and were import and millions of other people and

2741
02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:05,360
Speaker 4: made an impact. Were exceptional people, whether they're actors, whether

2742
02:16:05,360 --> 02:16:08,760
Speaker 4: they're athletes, like a Vander you know, like like a

2743
02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:11,280
Speaker 4: Pete Rose, who I just interviewed, who will never make

2744
02:16:11,440 --> 02:16:14,400
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame because of the gambling, but he

2745
02:16:14,720 --> 02:16:17,320
Speaker 4: has more hits than any other person probably ever for

2746
02:16:17,440 --> 02:16:21,720
Speaker 4: the rest of baseball. To to the you know, the

2747
02:16:21,800 --> 02:16:25,000
Speaker 4: great producers like you know Rodney Jerkins or Teddy Riley,

2748
02:16:25,920 --> 02:16:28,400
Speaker 4: to the great singers like Sha Ka Khan or Smokey

2749
02:16:28,520 --> 02:16:34,560
Speaker 4: Robinson to to people's first interviews like the Migos, you know.

2750
02:16:34,520 --> 02:16:37,200
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, Like, Yeah, it was was with me

2751
02:16:37,520 --> 02:16:38,600
Speaker 1: get in.

2752
02:16:38,640 --> 02:16:42,840
Speaker 4: Atlanta, first ever, first ever, first ever, no I was

2753
02:16:42,879 --> 02:16:46,560
Speaker 4: in Atlanta, and Coach K was like, I was trying

2754
02:16:46,600 --> 02:16:49,960
Speaker 4: to get a Gucci interview, a Gucci man interview, and

2755
02:16:50,040 --> 02:16:54,840
Speaker 4: he was Gucci was being regular Gucci before he got

2756
02:16:54,879 --> 02:16:58,080
Speaker 4: clone and Coach K was was was like managing him,

2757
02:16:58,600 --> 02:16:59,520
Speaker 4: and I was like, you know, I can I get

2758
02:16:59,520 --> 02:17:00,120
Speaker 4: a Gucci in you?

2759
02:17:00,360 --> 02:17:00,480
Speaker 1: Oh?

2760
02:17:00,600 --> 02:17:02,480
Speaker 4: I got you, I got you, But can you first

2761
02:17:02,520 --> 02:17:05,600
Speaker 4: interview this new group you know, we're pushing it right.

2762
02:17:05,480 --> 02:17:08,720
Speaker 1: Now called the Ovation and you a research driven person, I.

2763
02:17:08,800 --> 02:17:11,520
Speaker 4: Just had to make it work and set off set well,

2764
02:17:11,600 --> 02:17:14,760
Speaker 4: you know, I just asked a few kind of general questions,

2765
02:17:14,800 --> 02:17:16,520
Speaker 4: got a little information from there, and you know, it

2766
02:17:16,560 --> 02:17:19,240
Speaker 4: was a relatively generic opset was locked up at the time,

2767
02:17:19,320 --> 02:17:22,880
Speaker 4: so it was really just Clavo and take off, you

2768
02:17:22,959 --> 02:17:24,480
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But but that was their first

2769
02:17:24,560 --> 02:17:28,000
Speaker 4: ever ever interview with them, you know. So so the

2770
02:17:28,320 --> 02:17:32,680
Speaker 4: these pieces that you know can be upscale through AI

2771
02:17:32,920 --> 02:17:34,920
Speaker 4: and you know, you create four K versions of it,

2772
02:17:35,000 --> 02:17:37,120
Speaker 4: even though they're they're low quality, you know, you know,

2773
02:17:37,320 --> 02:17:39,199
Speaker 4: which we've been doing with some of our older catalog

2774
02:17:39,280 --> 02:17:42,040
Speaker 4: pieces like like these are these are important pieces, man.

2775
02:17:42,080 --> 02:17:43,879
Speaker 1: The KVD interview is an important piece.

2776
02:17:44,560 --> 02:17:47,240
Speaker 4: That's an important piece because KIF only told the story

2777
02:17:48,640 --> 02:17:53,720
Speaker 4: completely for the first time ever on lad TV and

2778
02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:57,800
Speaker 4: you saw what happened with all that. That's that's the

2779
02:17:57,920 --> 02:18:00,880
Speaker 4: real legacy that I want to leave behind. And I

2780
02:18:01,280 --> 02:18:03,640
Speaker 4: think that's an important thing. And you know what I mean,

2781
02:18:03,680 --> 02:18:06,920
Speaker 4: And yes, yes I do. Me and Busy we rock out.

2782
02:18:07,000 --> 02:18:08,840
Speaker 4: We talk about current events and everything else like that,

2783
02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:12,199
Speaker 4: and that gets ten, fifteen to twenty million views sometimes

2784
02:18:12,240 --> 02:18:17,039
Speaker 4: and that's dope, right, But the underlying you know, that's

2785
02:18:17,040 --> 02:18:18,920
Speaker 4: almost the engine that kind of drives.

2786
02:18:18,640 --> 02:18:21,760
Speaker 1: The underlying purpose, you know what I mean.

2787
02:18:22,040 --> 02:18:24,200
Speaker 4: You always got to do different stuff to get what

2788
02:18:24,280 --> 02:18:25,840
Speaker 4: it is that you really want to accomplish. I mean,

2789
02:18:25,879 --> 02:18:27,720
Speaker 4: it's a good way to accomplish it. Wellse's my man.

2790
02:18:27,760 --> 02:18:30,360
Speaker 4: These are fun interviews, you know, but like yo, like

2791
02:18:30,480 --> 02:18:34,160
Speaker 4: these stories that a lot of times are being told

2792
02:18:34,200 --> 02:18:35,760
Speaker 4: for the first time ever. Not everyone's going to get

2793
02:18:35,760 --> 02:18:38,200
Speaker 4: a documentary about them, but a lot of people have

2794
02:18:38,320 --> 02:18:41,000
Speaker 4: lat TV pieces of them telling.

2795
02:18:40,840 --> 02:18:44,760
Speaker 1: Their own story. Right, what is flat TV documentary coming out?

2796
02:18:45,360 --> 02:18:45,720
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2797
02:18:46,600 --> 02:18:48,240
Speaker 4: World Star asked me if I wanted to do and

2798
02:18:48,360 --> 02:18:53,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm good a documentary on me document that's

2799
02:18:53,680 --> 02:18:55,840
Speaker 4: kind of fun. Yeah, but it was you know, it

2800
02:18:55,959 --> 02:18:57,600
Speaker 4: wasn't any sort of real you know, there wasn't a

2801
02:18:57,600 --> 02:18:58,440
Speaker 4: budget or anything.

2802
02:18:58,480 --> 02:18:58,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

2803
02:18:59,080 --> 02:19:02,440
Speaker 4: If I do it, I feel like, yeah, no, I

2804
02:19:02,520 --> 02:19:04,840
Speaker 4: mean you own material, correct, right, yeah?

2805
02:19:04,840 --> 02:19:05,720
Speaker 1: I own everything? Yes.

2806
02:19:05,840 --> 02:19:09,600
Speaker 4: I mean, look, if someone you know it's not like

2807
02:19:09,800 --> 02:19:14,840
Speaker 4: I mean, if a director that I really admired, like

2808
02:19:14,920 --> 02:19:16,760
Speaker 4: if Hype Williams want to do a flat.

2809
02:19:16,560 --> 02:19:19,280
Speaker 1: TV documentary, yeah, let's let's rock out do it. You

2810
02:19:19,320 --> 02:19:19,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

2811
02:19:19,680 --> 02:19:23,800
Speaker 4: Because I'm sorry, Yeah, Brett Ratner, like you know, someone

2812
02:19:23,840 --> 02:19:28,080
Speaker 4: who I admire, you know, visually in terms of how

2813
02:19:28,120 --> 02:19:28,840
Speaker 4: they put pieces?

2814
02:19:29,480 --> 02:19:31,280
Speaker 1: What's that? Who's that?

2815
02:19:32,480 --> 02:19:33,920
Speaker 3: I know the name, but remind me who he is?

2816
02:19:34,560 --> 02:19:39,240
Speaker 3: That was like another director? Yeah, director of hip hop?

2817
02:19:41,320 --> 02:19:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah yeah.

2818
02:19:42,680 --> 02:19:44,880
Speaker 4: Fab five Freddy if you wanted to with me, yeah,

2819
02:19:45,080 --> 02:19:47,080
Speaker 4: I got you know, I know Fab, I've interviewed fab

2820
02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:48,960
Speaker 4: But you know what I mean, Like someone like that,

2821
02:19:49,360 --> 02:19:50,880
Speaker 4: if they wanted to come do some ship, you know

2822
02:19:50,920 --> 02:19:53,320
Speaker 4: what I mean. I'm sure world Star meant well, but

2823
02:19:53,400 --> 02:19:55,160
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But what I'm saying is, yeah,

2824
02:19:55,200 --> 02:19:57,360
Speaker 4: if they want to come do some ship, and you know,

2825
02:19:57,440 --> 02:20:01,800
Speaker 4: I think there's more. I don't think I've reached my

2826
02:20:01,879 --> 02:20:04,720
Speaker 4: peak yet, you know, I mean I feel I have

2827
02:20:04,879 --> 02:20:07,119
Speaker 4: to reach more of a peak in order to think

2828
02:20:07,160 --> 02:20:07,920
Speaker 4: about something like that.

2829
02:20:08,280 --> 02:20:09,280
Speaker 1: I still have years left.

2830
02:20:09,640 --> 02:20:13,279
Speaker 3: Because when we look at your website, it's similar to Netflix.

2831
02:20:13,640 --> 02:20:18,000
Speaker 3: The only difference is you don't give us the number one, two, three,

2832
02:20:18,840 --> 02:20:21,920
Speaker 3: interview or whatever I want, but you give us the

2833
02:20:22,080 --> 02:20:26,880
Speaker 3: numbers Netflix does not. Right, do you think les's a mistake? Well,

2834
02:20:27,000 --> 02:20:28,720
Speaker 3: I mean the website is the website. That's always been

2835
02:20:28,760 --> 02:20:30,880
Speaker 3: a secondary part of the business. YouTube channel is the

2836
02:20:30,920 --> 02:20:32,720
Speaker 3: YouTube channel. And you can see the number size.

2837
02:20:33,000 --> 02:20:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, that's like ninety percent of the business.

2838
02:20:36,560 --> 02:20:39,879
Speaker 1: So you can, all right, so explain that. What happens

2839
02:20:39,879 --> 02:20:44,240
Speaker 1: to you if YouTube changes in the way you can monetize.

2840
02:20:45,600 --> 02:20:51,119
Speaker 1: Do you have a plan for that? Well, I'll put

2841
02:20:51,160 --> 02:20:51,440
Speaker 1: it like this.

2842
02:20:55,320 --> 02:20:58,120
Speaker 4: Number one, There's always going to be a place to

2843
02:20:58,200 --> 02:21:03,840
Speaker 4: put great content, create dope content, and there will always

2844
02:21:03,920 --> 02:21:08,160
Speaker 4: be a way for people to find it and you

2845
02:21:08,280 --> 02:21:10,199
Speaker 4: to put it somewhere, whether you find it now, whether

2846
02:21:10,440 --> 02:21:13,640
Speaker 4: it's YouTube or Snapchat that we use these days, or

2847
02:21:13,840 --> 02:21:16,840
Speaker 4: with Facebook that's a constant fucking nightmare for us, or

2848
02:21:16,959 --> 02:21:19,520
Speaker 4: if it's Netflix or Amazon or something else like that,

2849
02:21:20,400 --> 02:21:23,000
Speaker 4: there will always be a place. And you know, it

2850
02:21:23,120 --> 02:21:26,640
Speaker 4: may not be the way we do interviews, do ten

2851
02:21:26,680 --> 02:21:29,000
Speaker 4: clips to day. It may just be one powerful piece

2852
02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:33,400
Speaker 4: a year, right, you know, But you also don't know

2853
02:21:33,520 --> 02:21:36,240
Speaker 4: what the future holds. You would like to say that,

2854
02:21:37,360 --> 02:21:39,800
Speaker 4: but you also don't know where. There might be a

2855
02:21:39,920 --> 02:21:43,920
Speaker 4: day that let's just say YouTube totally. Let's just say

2856
02:21:43,959 --> 02:21:47,640
Speaker 4: YouTube shutdown. You know, YouTube shutdown. There's no other place

2857
02:21:48,320 --> 02:21:54,400
Speaker 4: for independent content like mine. I've lived my life financially

2858
02:21:54,959 --> 02:21:58,840
Speaker 4: pretty conservatively. I've invested, you know, I've always pushed the

2859
02:21:58,840 --> 02:22:00,959
Speaker 4: whole stock investment stuff like that, you know what I mean.

2860
02:22:01,760 --> 02:22:05,520
Speaker 4: I own my house outright. I don't buy shit I

2861
02:22:05,600 --> 02:22:09,120
Speaker 4: can't afford. I could always if I need to cut

2862
02:22:09,160 --> 02:22:13,320
Speaker 4: shit off and live, you know, I could. I could

2863
02:22:13,400 --> 02:22:17,240
Speaker 4: technically live out the rest of my days with what

2864
02:22:17,320 --> 02:22:19,720
Speaker 4: I've accumulated right now. And I mean, I'd have to

2865
02:22:19,720 --> 02:22:22,480
Speaker 4: tone down my lifestyle. I wouldn't go shopping as much

2866
02:22:22,480 --> 02:22:24,960
Speaker 4: as I do now, but whatever, who cares shopping like

2867
02:22:25,840 --> 02:22:29,640
Speaker 4: I could live out the rest of my life comfortably

2868
02:22:29,920 --> 02:22:31,880
Speaker 4: based on how I've lived my life up to this point.

2869
02:22:31,959 --> 02:22:34,840
Speaker 4: I've never lived on the edge because I've lost it all.

2870
02:22:34,800 --> 02:22:36,080
Speaker 1: At one, you know what I mean.

2871
02:22:36,160 --> 02:22:37,760
Speaker 4: Like I've when I moved to New York, I was

2872
02:22:37,920 --> 02:22:41,800
Speaker 4: homeless because I've fucked off all my money before, so

2873
02:22:42,200 --> 02:22:43,480
Speaker 4: I knew, you know, when you.

2874
02:22:43,560 --> 02:22:44,040
Speaker 1: Lose it all.

2875
02:22:45,440 --> 02:22:48,360
Speaker 4: That's the best teacher ever of how not to lose

2876
02:22:48,400 --> 02:22:49,800
Speaker 4: it all because the back of your mind you always

2877
02:22:49,840 --> 02:22:52,200
Speaker 4: remember how you lost it, and it's possible. You always

2878
02:22:52,240 --> 02:22:56,640
Speaker 4: remember it. It's always possible. So hey man, for it

2879
02:22:56,720 --> 02:22:58,280
Speaker 4: all ends, there was a great fucking run.

2880
02:22:59,000 --> 02:23:00,680
Speaker 1: We you know what.

2881
02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:03,840
Speaker 4: Our YouTube channel is like three billion views all together.

2882
02:23:03,959 --> 02:23:06,000
Speaker 4: That's like the whole country of China.

2883
02:23:06,200 --> 02:23:11,360
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like I've I walk around,

2884
02:23:11,400 --> 02:23:12,000
Speaker 1: I get loved.

2885
02:23:12,040 --> 02:23:13,840
Speaker 4: People want to say photos with me, They tell me

2886
02:23:13,920 --> 02:23:16,440
Speaker 4: how much you know, they'll they'll talk about certain interviews

2887
02:23:16,480 --> 02:23:18,800
Speaker 4: that connected with them, Like you know what I'm saying,

2888
02:23:18,920 --> 02:23:23,040
Speaker 4: Like I've helped I've helped people out, I've put people

2889
02:23:23,080 --> 02:23:26,960
Speaker 4: on you know, I think really Like I remember Birdman,

2890
02:23:27,200 --> 02:23:29,480
Speaker 4: you know, the first time we spoke, he was like

2891
02:23:30,680 --> 02:23:34,400
Speaker 4: you the first one that really kind of mixed business

2892
02:23:35,080 --> 02:23:37,600
Speaker 4: with interviews. Interviews have always been kind of a free

2893
02:23:37,680 --> 02:23:40,440
Speaker 4: thing in the media world, and you started paying some

2894
02:23:40,560 --> 02:23:42,920
Speaker 4: of your guests, and to turn you've turned into real businesses.

2895
02:23:42,959 --> 02:23:46,000
Speaker 4: And you know what I mean, Like Lunell you know,

2896
02:23:46,520 --> 02:23:49,240
Speaker 4: talked about you know, recently because she put this out publicly.

2897
02:23:49,240 --> 02:23:51,960
Speaker 4: I never said anything, but publicly the comedian was like

2898
02:23:52,440 --> 02:23:55,720
Speaker 4: she publicly said, like how I was one of the

2899
02:23:55,760 --> 02:23:58,200
Speaker 4: few people when when the pandemic hit and she was

2900
02:23:58,280 --> 02:23:59,880
Speaker 4: fucked up because she couldn't tour. I was one of

2901
02:23:59,879 --> 02:24:02,160
Speaker 4: the few people that helped her out financially to make

2902
02:24:02,200 --> 02:24:04,840
Speaker 4: sure she was okay. You know what I'm saying, Like

2903
02:24:04,959 --> 02:24:08,280
Speaker 4: like I've put I've easily put millions of dollars in

2904
02:24:08,320 --> 02:24:11,760
Speaker 4: people's pockets, you know, for just you know, like the

2905
02:24:11,840 --> 02:24:14,640
Speaker 4: Tony Yao's of the world found new careers of just

2906
02:24:14,760 --> 02:24:17,840
Speaker 4: doing interviews, you know what I mean, like actually supporting

2907
02:24:18,520 --> 02:24:21,280
Speaker 4: part of their lifestyle through just beating up and talking

2908
02:24:21,360 --> 02:24:22,440
Speaker 4: talking shit with people, Like you.

2909
02:24:22,440 --> 02:24:26,520
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. So, man, I'm good with that.

2910
02:24:27,320 --> 02:24:30,680
Speaker 4: It's been a sixteen year run at this point, Like god, damn,

2911
02:24:34,760 --> 02:24:37,520
Speaker 4: if it all, if it all ends after drinks champs

2912
02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:39,000
Speaker 4: like it was a hell of.

2913
02:24:39,000 --> 02:24:42,160
Speaker 1: A fucking run. Man, I've done a lot. I've done

2914
02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:44,240
Speaker 1: more than I ever thought I would do. Let's talk

2915
02:24:44,280 --> 02:24:47,280
Speaker 1: about Dame Dash. Okay, here we go.

2916
02:24:47,720 --> 02:24:51,560
Speaker 3: It felt like you guys had a relationship. Yes, it

2917
02:24:51,680 --> 02:24:55,800
Speaker 3: felt like and then it just went ball downhill, all

2918
02:24:55,920 --> 02:24:59,200
Speaker 3: down here. I can't understand. I swould have God like

2919
02:24:59,320 --> 02:25:04,199
Speaker 3: you say, do research. I've literally tried to understand where

2920
02:25:04,280 --> 02:25:05,240
Speaker 3: this started.

2921
02:25:04,920 --> 02:25:06,560
Speaker 1: At sure and not find it.

2922
02:25:09,280 --> 02:25:12,119
Speaker 3: I mean maybe because you guys are too honorable guys,

2923
02:25:12,280 --> 02:25:14,440
Speaker 3: and I don't knows you.

2924
02:25:15,040 --> 02:25:20,680
Speaker 1: Tell me where this went wrong. So let me just

2925
02:25:20,760 --> 02:25:21,520
Speaker 1: start out with this.

2926
02:25:23,360 --> 02:25:28,640
Speaker 4: All of us admired Dame Dash, all of us what

2927
02:25:28,840 --> 02:25:32,600
Speaker 4: he pulled off as one third of Rockefeller and the

2928
02:25:32,720 --> 02:25:34,520
Speaker 4: epic heights of this.

2929
02:25:34,760 --> 02:25:37,840
Speaker 1: And Dame, I know you're gonna watch this, so you know,

2930
02:25:38,160 --> 02:25:39,360
Speaker 1: listen to what I'm saying right now.

2931
02:25:40,920 --> 02:25:45,840
Speaker 4: Everyone loved Dame and what he represented, his bravado and

2932
02:25:46,000 --> 02:25:48,880
Speaker 4: his the way he approached things and everything else like that.

2933
02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:49,600
Speaker 1: We all loved it.

2934
02:25:49,800 --> 02:25:52,800
Speaker 4: So when I had a chance to interview Dame, I

2935
02:25:52,959 --> 02:25:55,760
Speaker 4: was excited. And I did an interview with Dave. It

2936
02:25:55,879 --> 02:25:56,280
Speaker 4: went well.

2937
02:25:57,840 --> 02:25:58,680
Speaker 1: He was in la.

2938
02:26:00,080 --> 02:26:01,640
Speaker 4: Hey, can you come down and do an interview on

2939
02:26:01,720 --> 02:26:04,640
Speaker 4: my platform. You had like this rental house in Malibu.

2940
02:26:05,320 --> 02:26:07,200
Speaker 4: Cool went down to the interview.

2941
02:26:07,800 --> 02:26:10,240
Speaker 1: Cool. She was to him his house, went to his house.

2942
02:26:11,080 --> 02:26:14,440
Speaker 4: Then I invited him to my personal house in Calabasas.

2943
02:26:14,480 --> 02:26:16,879
Speaker 1: At the time he came over, he chopped it up.

2944
02:26:17,879 --> 02:26:19,080
Speaker 1: He invited me to his house.

2945
02:26:19,720 --> 02:26:22,760
Speaker 4: So this is two interviews. These aren't interviews anymore. We're

2946
02:26:22,760 --> 02:26:24,840
Speaker 4: just hanging out. There was two interviews and then he

2947
02:26:25,000 --> 02:26:27,120
Speaker 4: comes to hang out and just hang out and talk.

2948
02:26:27,480 --> 02:26:32,120
Speaker 4: Cool smoke. We're building relationship, you know. Then I go,

2949
02:26:32,320 --> 02:26:36,640
Speaker 4: I go to his house and we're talking and he

2950
02:26:36,800 --> 02:26:38,280
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I want you to be president of

2951
02:26:38,640 --> 02:26:41,280
Speaker 4: my company. I'll give you twenty percent or so. I'm like,

2952
02:26:41,320 --> 02:26:44,560
Speaker 4: I'm good, Dame, I'm home and shit, you know. And

2953
02:26:44,680 --> 02:26:46,480
Speaker 4: Dame at that time, it is like kind of like

2954
02:26:46,920 --> 02:26:50,000
Speaker 4: started sneak this in. He's like saying, my sneakers are fake,

2955
02:26:50,160 --> 02:26:53,280
Speaker 4: and you know, kind of like little little sideway shit,

2956
02:26:53,440 --> 02:26:56,680
Speaker 4: and you know, I'm running a sneaker site, Like come on,

2957
02:26:56,840 --> 02:26:58,920
Speaker 4: like I'm not wearing spake sneakers. He just doesn't know sneakers,

2958
02:26:59,280 --> 02:27:00,840
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. He just didn't know what

2959
02:27:00,920 --> 02:27:02,720
Speaker 4: he was talking about. In that case, but he's you know,

2960
02:27:02,840 --> 02:27:05,760
Speaker 4: he's he's making little snide comments about my contents stuff

2961
02:27:05,800 --> 02:27:13,520
Speaker 4: like that. Cool whatever, he was like. I was like, yo, uh,

2962
02:27:15,280 --> 02:27:18,080
Speaker 4: why don't we me and you actually did this? At

2963
02:27:18,120 --> 02:27:20,520
Speaker 4: one point. I'm like, hey, when you some of the

2964
02:27:20,560 --> 02:27:25,560
Speaker 4: content you're creating, why didn't you let us run it

2965
02:27:25,600 --> 02:27:27,760
Speaker 4: on our channel and we'll split the profits with you.

2966
02:27:27,840 --> 02:27:29,520
Speaker 4: I mean, you do that for a short time at

2967
02:27:29,560 --> 02:27:32,760
Speaker 4: one point, you know, because we already have the followers whatever,

2968
02:27:33,360 --> 02:27:35,280
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, we have the deal with Complex.

2969
02:27:35,360 --> 02:27:38,120
Speaker 1: And he was like, well, now, why would I do that?

2970
02:27:38,160 --> 02:27:40,760
Speaker 4: Why don't you just send me, you know, get introduce

2971
02:27:40,840 --> 02:27:41,880
Speaker 4: me to the Complex so I can get a deal

2972
02:27:41,920 --> 02:27:44,400
Speaker 4: over there. Cool, introduce me to the president of Complex,

2973
02:27:44,920 --> 02:27:50,080
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that's nah, No, it

2974
02:27:50,200 --> 02:27:52,640
Speaker 4: was I don't want to say his name, accomplice, you know,

2975
02:27:52,680 --> 02:27:53,760
Speaker 4: I don't want to put him on blast.

2976
02:27:54,920 --> 02:27:55,440
Speaker 1: So then.

2977
02:27:57,400 --> 02:28:00,400
Speaker 4: We kind of, you know, the relationship. He was kind

2978
02:28:00,400 --> 02:28:04,240
Speaker 4: of going, whatever. I asked him, Hey, you know, like

2979
02:28:04,400 --> 02:28:10,160
Speaker 4: like Jay Jay did something and I said, hey, do

2980
02:28:10,160 --> 02:28:11,440
Speaker 4: you want to comment on this? You know, do you

2981
02:28:11,480 --> 02:28:13,280
Speaker 4: want to interview to comment on on this this thing

2982
02:28:13,320 --> 02:28:15,520
Speaker 4: with Jay because we all know that he talks about

2983
02:28:15,600 --> 02:28:17,280
Speaker 4: Jay a lot. It just is what it is to

2984
02:28:17,400 --> 02:28:19,680
Speaker 4: to this day, He's like, yo, why would I comment

2985
02:28:19,720 --> 02:28:20,600
Speaker 4: on what another man does?

2986
02:28:21,840 --> 02:28:22,440
Speaker 1: All right? Cool?

2987
02:28:23,120 --> 02:28:25,959
Speaker 4: Then like three days later he doesn't interview comedy about Jay,

2988
02:28:26,560 --> 02:28:27,360
Speaker 4: you know, and I hit him.

2989
02:28:27,360 --> 02:28:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I thought subject exact same thing that

2990
02:28:30,600 --> 02:28:32,160
Speaker 1: I said he wanted to do. But whatever. I hit him.

2991
02:28:32,160 --> 02:28:34,720
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, why would you that's actually you don't

2992
02:28:34,720 --> 02:28:36,840
Speaker 4: want to comment on it. And then it started sort

2993
02:28:36,879 --> 02:28:38,359
Speaker 4: of like a bad exchange.

2994
02:28:38,200 --> 02:28:42,440
Speaker 3: Because he felt like you thought that he was obligated

2995
02:28:42,480 --> 02:28:42,600
Speaker 3: to you.

2996
02:28:42,800 --> 02:28:44,280
Speaker 4: Well he wasn't obligating to me. But it's like, why

2997
02:28:44,320 --> 02:28:45,520
Speaker 4: would you tell me you don't want to talk about it?

2998
02:28:45,560 --> 02:28:47,360
Speaker 4: Just talk about himself? It doesn't It doesn't make sense

2999
02:28:47,400 --> 02:28:49,400
Speaker 4: to me. But now, I mean, just as someone who

3000
02:28:49,440 --> 02:28:51,800
Speaker 4: I'm building relationship just explained to me, either you don't

3001
02:28:51,800 --> 02:28:52,680
Speaker 4: want to talk about.

3002
02:28:52,400 --> 02:28:54,280
Speaker 1: It or you say he could just not. I just

3003
02:28:54,320 --> 02:28:55,320
Speaker 1: want to talk about it myself.

3004
02:28:55,160 --> 02:28:57,000
Speaker 4: On my own platform, right, cool, no problem, But hey,

3005
02:28:57,000 --> 02:28:58,080
Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about it, then you talk

3006
02:28:58,120 --> 02:29:00,800
Speaker 4: about So it was just a weird, weird exchange, and

3007
02:29:02,520 --> 02:29:04,320
Speaker 4: it got to the point where it's like the exchange

3008
02:29:04,360 --> 02:29:06,400
Speaker 4: started to kind of go bad. Like you know, now

3009
02:29:06,480 --> 02:29:08,880
Speaker 4: we're now we're kind of starting to talk shit to

3010
02:29:08,959 --> 02:29:10,840
Speaker 4: each other, and I'm like, all right, cool this is

3011
02:29:11,080 --> 02:29:13,560
Speaker 4: to each other. Well, we're texting back and forth and

3012
02:29:13,600 --> 02:29:15,760
Speaker 4: the conversation is getting a little aggressive on both sides.

3013
02:29:15,879 --> 02:29:20,720
Speaker 1: Right, But I'm like, I whatever it is, what it is.

3014
02:29:22,720 --> 02:29:26,520
Speaker 4: Dame likes to call everyone chatty patty, all right, or

3015
02:29:26,600 --> 02:29:27,280
Speaker 4: culture vulture.

3016
02:29:27,959 --> 02:29:29,560
Speaker 1: So he started with chatty patty with you.

3017
02:29:30,600 --> 02:29:33,000
Speaker 4: It wasn't what I'm just saying in general, right, I'm

3018
02:29:33,040 --> 02:29:34,920
Speaker 4: not saying he's calling me a chatty patty in the text.

3019
02:29:35,400 --> 02:29:38,360
Speaker 4: I'm just saying as a whole he calls people chatty patties.

3020
02:29:38,400 --> 02:29:41,600
Speaker 4: He caused people culture vulture. Okay, right, Yes, me and

3021
02:29:41,760 --> 02:29:45,080
Speaker 4: him had this private exchange. Dame decides to make a

3022
02:29:45,200 --> 02:29:49,040
Speaker 4: video about our conversation. No talking about what, dissing me

3023
02:29:49,400 --> 02:29:51,520
Speaker 4: in the video and talking shit about me.

3024
02:29:52,800 --> 02:29:52,840
Speaker 8: What.

3025
02:29:53,280 --> 02:29:58,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he made a video talking about our conversation

3026
02:29:58,160 --> 02:30:01,360
Speaker 4: and our falling out. But I'm but I'm the chatty patty,

3027
02:30:01,400 --> 02:30:02,960
Speaker 4: but he's He's the one that made this whole thing

3028
02:30:03,040 --> 02:30:07,520
Speaker 4: public when I felt like it just could have been

3029
02:30:07,560 --> 02:30:09,760
Speaker 4: worked out privately between the two of us. I'm not

3030
02:30:09,800 --> 02:30:12,440
Speaker 4: saying anything publicly about it, Like this is you've been

3031
02:30:12,480 --> 02:30:14,480
Speaker 4: in my house. I've been to your house, Like why

3032
02:30:14,480 --> 02:30:16,520
Speaker 4: are you suddenly making videos about me? When I thought

3033
02:30:16,560 --> 02:30:18,400
Speaker 4: we had a private relationship.

3034
02:30:18,440 --> 02:30:18,600
Speaker 1: You know.

3035
02:30:19,480 --> 02:30:23,240
Speaker 4: And then on top of that, remember I told her

3036
02:30:23,240 --> 02:30:27,119
Speaker 4: I set them up with Complex. Yes, Dame doesn't understand

3037
02:30:27,120 --> 02:30:30,920
Speaker 4: how video business works, you know. They he puts these

3038
02:30:31,000 --> 02:30:35,000
Speaker 4: videos out, they're getting whatever, five hundred thousand views.

3039
02:30:35,120 --> 02:30:37,080
Speaker 1: He gets to check from Complex. That's not very big.

3040
02:30:37,360 --> 02:30:39,640
Speaker 4: So he starts dissing the president that I introduced him to.

3041
02:30:43,280 --> 02:30:43,760
Speaker 1: Publicly.

3042
02:30:44,080 --> 02:30:46,640
Speaker 4: Okay, this is the man that I made most of

3043
02:30:46,680 --> 02:30:49,760
Speaker 4: my wealth with. So at that point I was done.

3044
02:30:50,640 --> 02:30:54,720
Speaker 4: I said I'm done. Way yeah, And it was like

3045
02:30:54,800 --> 02:30:56,440
Speaker 4: fuck Dame. After that, you know what I mean, He's

3046
02:30:56,440 --> 02:30:58,920
Speaker 4: like fuck me, fuck you too, you know, And it

3047
02:30:59,040 --> 02:31:01,560
Speaker 4: was it's been the back of ever since, right, you

3048
02:31:01,640 --> 02:31:04,760
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Once again, not that deep, but

3049
02:31:05,280 --> 02:31:07,279
Speaker 4: not that deep. We don't even work with Complex anymore.

3050
02:31:07,320 --> 02:31:07,920
Speaker 4: It's whatever.

3051
02:31:08,080 --> 02:31:10,280
Speaker 1: But like the reality is is that.

3052
02:31:11,800 --> 02:31:15,480
Speaker 4: What I saw with him character wise just just didn't

3053
02:31:15,560 --> 02:31:17,720
Speaker 4: rub me the right way, you know what I mean?

3054
02:31:18,120 --> 02:31:22,800
Speaker 4: And you know, I just was like, this ain't the

3055
02:31:22,879 --> 02:31:25,600
Speaker 4: type of person I could do business with and that's that.

3056
02:31:25,959 --> 02:31:30,040
Speaker 4: And Dame is someone that I really looked forward to

3057
02:31:30,160 --> 02:31:32,240
Speaker 4: doing business with and having on my show because his

3058
02:31:32,560 --> 02:31:34,960
Speaker 4: personality is he has a dope personality and he says

3059
02:31:34,959 --> 02:31:37,040
Speaker 4: a lot of interesting things, you know what I mean.

3060
02:31:37,080 --> 02:31:39,200
Speaker 4: I think he could really have a real, you know,

3061
02:31:39,320 --> 02:31:41,040
Speaker 4: a real strong fan base, and it's like that. But

3062
02:31:42,000 --> 02:31:45,800
Speaker 4: based on our interactions, business wise, it just didn't work.

3063
02:31:45,840 --> 02:31:47,520
Speaker 4: And when you get to a certain level of business,

3064
02:31:47,959 --> 02:31:49,520
Speaker 4: you work with the people you like to work with.

3065
02:31:50,720 --> 02:31:56,600
Speaker 3: So so let me ask you, right, he could teach

3066
02:31:56,720 --> 02:32:00,840
Speaker 3: me And he said that I had Lee all on here,

3067
02:32:02,879 --> 02:32:05,080
Speaker 3: and I didn't ask Leo cons about him.

3068
02:32:05,440 --> 02:32:11,360
Speaker 1: I didn't either. I didn't need Yeah, why would I.

3069
02:32:11,760 --> 02:32:15,680
Speaker 1: I feel like Emilio talked about this afterwards.

3070
02:32:15,760 --> 02:32:18,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, and I asked Leor this, I said, are

3071
02:32:18,320 --> 02:32:20,520
Speaker 4: you the most powerful person in music right now?

3072
02:32:20,720 --> 02:32:21,920
Speaker 1: But of course he's going to deny it.

3073
02:32:23,000 --> 02:32:25,840
Speaker 4: But he's the global head of YouTube Music, which is

3074
02:32:26,120 --> 02:32:29,480
Speaker 4: YouTube music one of the global not the American head,

3075
02:32:29,600 --> 02:32:33,760
Speaker 4: not the North American head, not the Northern Hemisphere head,

3076
02:32:34,440 --> 02:32:38,920
Speaker 4: the global head of YouTube music, and YouTube is the

3077
02:32:39,040 --> 02:32:44,080
Speaker 4: biggest music platform on the planet, Spotify. It's big of

3078
02:32:44,120 --> 02:32:46,200
Speaker 4: the Spotify TikTok.

3079
02:32:46,160 --> 02:32:50,200
Speaker 1: Amazon, Apple, whatever the fuck else new platform comes on,

3080
02:32:50,280 --> 02:32:51,200
Speaker 1: you put them all together.

3081
02:32:51,440 --> 02:32:54,040
Speaker 4: They're not going to add up to YouTube. And my

3082
02:32:54,200 --> 02:32:56,720
Speaker 4: thing was like, I you know why I told you

3083
02:32:56,760 --> 02:32:59,359
Speaker 4: about the life story pieces. I have this very important

3084
02:32:59,400 --> 02:33:03,879
Speaker 4: person I'm going to talk about, Dame Dash dissing him

3085
02:33:03,959 --> 02:33:05,960
Speaker 4: like I'm not going to spend my time asking that.

3086
02:33:07,600 --> 02:33:11,120
Speaker 4: It's more important shit to talk about, you know, like

3087
02:33:11,320 --> 02:33:14,440
Speaker 4: how he became the first hip hop president of a

3088
02:33:14,520 --> 02:33:17,920
Speaker 4: major label, the first before him.

3089
02:33:19,240 --> 02:33:22,960
Speaker 1: It's never been done with fool Leor. Yeah, you know

3090
02:33:23,080 --> 02:33:26,680
Speaker 1: that once Steph jam became you know that conglomerate, he

3091
02:33:26,800 --> 02:33:31,840
Speaker 1: was head of that conglomerate. People people downplays.

3092
02:33:31,640 --> 02:33:33,480
Speaker 2: But you do say you like to push the envelope,

3093
02:33:33,520 --> 02:33:35,680
Speaker 2: So would you afford that same respect to somebody else?

3094
02:33:36,120 --> 02:33:37,800
Speaker 2: Like what you did to Tyson would have been the

3095
02:33:37,840 --> 02:33:40,119
Speaker 2: same thing if you would have asked le Or about Dame.

3096
02:33:43,080 --> 02:33:44,080
Speaker 1: Well, I mean.

3097
02:33:47,480 --> 02:33:49,440
Speaker 4: I had a limited amount of time with Day you

3098
02:33:49,520 --> 02:33:53,200
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I had a very I'm sorry

3099
02:33:53,400 --> 02:33:55,520
Speaker 4: my back. Yeah, I had a very limited time with

3100
02:33:55,720 --> 02:33:58,320
Speaker 4: Lee or you know, if you watch that interviews, it's

3101
02:33:58,440 --> 02:33:58,920
Speaker 4: very short.

3102
02:33:59,040 --> 02:34:00,640
Speaker 1: It's not my usual two hours.

3103
02:34:00,959 --> 02:34:06,560
Speaker 4: So you know, sorry, there was I didn't really get

3104
02:34:06,600 --> 02:34:10,199
Speaker 4: to get into the Rockefeller story. And and quite honestly,

3105
02:34:10,320 --> 02:34:13,600
Speaker 4: you know, he actually gave Leor props in that interview,

3106
02:34:13,680 --> 02:34:15,560
Speaker 4: and I was like, what, well, we all gave Dame

3107
02:34:15,640 --> 02:34:18,320
Speaker 4: props or lee Or gave Dame props in that interview.

3108
02:34:18,320 --> 02:34:21,200
Speaker 1: I was like, what was it like to help create,

3109
02:34:21,600 --> 02:34:23,560
Speaker 1: you know, under deaf jam these.

3110
02:34:25,440 --> 02:34:28,440
Speaker 4: These megastars like Rockefeller and you know what I mean,

3111
02:34:28,680 --> 02:34:30,640
Speaker 4: and the dm A, you know, rough Riders and so forth.

3112
02:34:30,640 --> 02:34:33,480
Speaker 4: And he was like, hey, they would have been superstars regardless.

3113
02:34:33,600 --> 02:34:35,320
Speaker 4: You know, these guys were ultra talented.

3114
02:34:35,360 --> 02:34:36,920
Speaker 1: And I was there, you know, you know what.

3115
02:34:36,920 --> 02:34:38,880
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And you know, had I had more time,

3116
02:34:38,920 --> 02:34:40,320
Speaker 4: I would have gotten into it. Maybe I would have

3117
02:34:40,400 --> 02:34:43,120
Speaker 4: touched on It's like somewhat, but you know, I was

3118
02:34:43,200 --> 02:34:46,680
Speaker 4: focusing on the important shit in that piece, and I

3119
02:34:46,840 --> 02:34:49,760
Speaker 4: just felt like Leor dissing him wasn't that important.

3120
02:34:52,080 --> 02:34:55,640
Speaker 1: And you know, you, I guess made a similar choice.

3121
02:34:56,760 --> 02:34:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah I did.

3122
02:35:00,280 --> 02:35:07,000
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, I got shot here, But I understand

3123
02:35:07,000 --> 02:35:10,000
Speaker 4: I pick and shooes sometimes. Man, None of us are personal, Yeah,

3124
02:35:11,680 --> 02:35:14,039
Speaker 4: because the principles are always going to have a little

3125
02:35:14,040 --> 02:35:15,800
Speaker 4: bit of sliding room. You know what I mean to

3126
02:35:15,879 --> 02:35:19,960
Speaker 4: a certain degree about certain things, not not everything, you

3127
02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:22,560
Speaker 4: know what I mean like that, there's certain unexcusable but.

3128
02:35:22,680 --> 02:35:25,000
Speaker 1: Like you know, you're gonna in your job.

3129
02:35:25,080 --> 02:35:27,879
Speaker 4: You're gonna shift a little bit here and there.

3130
02:35:28,959 --> 02:35:30,279
Speaker 1: That's just life. That's just business.

3131
02:35:30,520 --> 02:35:33,080
Speaker 3: That's just wonderful life. So now let me ask you

3132
02:35:33,200 --> 02:35:36,600
Speaker 3: the minute out of question. I always see you a

3133
02:35:36,720 --> 02:35:39,160
Speaker 3: mice on. Why I don't see you a mice on?

3134
02:35:41,720 --> 02:35:46,680
Speaker 4: Life goes on, man, Life goes on, and uh, you know,

3135
02:35:47,160 --> 02:35:50,160
Speaker 4: people drift apart, right, and it.

3136
02:35:50,280 --> 02:35:51,080
Speaker 1: Just is what it is.

3137
02:35:51,800 --> 02:35:54,920
Speaker 4: I have no animosity towarism, and I haven't seen him

3138
02:35:54,920 --> 02:35:57,720
Speaker 4: in or talk to him in about three years.

3139
02:35:58,120 --> 02:36:01,760
Speaker 1: And you know, life, it was all man. Sometimes people

3140
02:36:01,800 --> 02:36:03,959
Speaker 1: are in your life for a certain amount of time.

3141
02:36:04,200 --> 02:36:05,480
Speaker 1: If you don't want to talk about you don't have

3142
02:36:05,520 --> 02:36:08,360
Speaker 1: to talk about it. What was the need on? What

3143
02:36:08,480 --> 02:36:09,000
Speaker 1: is it called?

3144
02:36:10,040 --> 02:36:14,120
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna skip. I'm just gonna skip this.

3145
02:36:14,240 --> 02:36:15,600
Speaker 1: But I could tell you that that.

3146
02:36:17,120 --> 02:36:18,880
Speaker 4: That that neither one of us are or you know,

3147
02:36:18,959 --> 02:36:21,240
Speaker 4: most of us are happy with the decision. Neither one

3148
02:36:21,280 --> 02:36:23,040
Speaker 4: of us are trying to connect with the other. And

3149
02:36:23,400 --> 02:36:26,720
Speaker 4: we're all living our lives and it's not a it's

3150
02:36:26,800 --> 02:36:29,800
Speaker 4: not like a one way or you know anything else

3151
02:36:29,840 --> 02:36:30,000
Speaker 4: like that.

3152
02:36:30,200 --> 02:36:36,880
Speaker 1: Man, it's all good. Oh yes, hell yeah, what's what

3153
02:36:37,000 --> 02:36:43,640
Speaker 1: the drum set behind the interviews, it's not it's really

3154
02:36:43,720 --> 02:36:45,440
Speaker 1: not like a significance of it.

3155
02:36:45,600 --> 02:36:47,680
Speaker 4: It's just that the studio that we start using in

3156
02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:49,680
Speaker 4: La just happened to have a drum set there already.

3157
02:36:50,320 --> 02:36:52,400
Speaker 1: Like you just feel like you don't want to ever

3158
02:36:52,520 --> 02:36:54,200
Speaker 1: change it. I mean, you know, it's the.

3159
02:36:54,240 --> 02:36:56,760
Speaker 4: Same studio, it's the same drum set. But then when

3160
02:36:56,760 --> 02:36:59,120
Speaker 4: we built our studio in New York, it's like, okay,

3161
02:36:59,200 --> 02:37:00,840
Speaker 4: like people know what's from the rum says, we actually

3162
02:37:00,840 --> 02:37:03,440
Speaker 4: create our own drum set in New York. So when

3163
02:37:03,440 --> 02:37:06,880
Speaker 4: you see like the academics interviews or the you know,

3164
02:37:06,920 --> 02:37:08,320
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think it's the New York just the

3165
02:37:08,360 --> 02:37:11,360
Speaker 4: New York centric interviews like the you know, the ten

3166
02:37:11,440 --> 02:37:14,960
Speaker 4: ninety Jake interviews, and so for the Matthafa interviews, you'll

3167
02:37:14,959 --> 02:37:16,680
Speaker 4: see a different drum set, but that that's our New

3168
02:37:16,760 --> 02:37:19,320
Speaker 4: York studio. But you know, but you feel people are

3169
02:37:19,360 --> 02:37:21,880
Speaker 4: just visually they're used to it. So yeah, it's just

3170
02:37:22,040 --> 02:37:24,000
Speaker 4: you know, so you just keep the drum set, man,

3171
02:37:24,160 --> 02:37:26,520
Speaker 4: you know. So it's one of these happy accidents, right right,

3172
02:37:26,600 --> 02:37:29,359
Speaker 4: if it's working or changing. Yeah, exactly.

3173
02:37:29,800 --> 02:37:34,480
Speaker 3: Okay, So one of the very first times, by the way,

3174
02:37:34,560 --> 02:37:38,800
Speaker 3: you're my friend, I know you. I did fifteen million,

3175
02:37:39,080 --> 02:37:44,120
Speaker 3: thousand lad interviews, But one of the first times I

3176
02:37:44,200 --> 02:37:47,320
Speaker 3: feel like people like zeroed in on you was like

3177
02:37:48,360 --> 02:37:54,040
Speaker 3: because the ar app Okay, why do you feel like

3178
02:37:54,160 --> 02:37:57,959
Speaker 3: people zero in on you for them even though you.

3179
02:38:01,560 --> 02:38:07,800
Speaker 4: I mean, when something terrible happens to a person, like

3180
02:38:07,920 --> 02:38:12,240
Speaker 4: they get but thirty years in prison, that's where you are. Yeah,

3181
02:38:12,280 --> 02:38:15,560
Speaker 4: it's it's some hideous number. Wow, it's a hit, like

3182
02:38:15,600 --> 02:38:19,440
Speaker 4: a thirty or forty years. It's a hideous number. When

3183
02:38:19,520 --> 02:38:25,480
Speaker 4: something catastrophic happens to somebody, people look at everything that's

3184
02:38:25,520 --> 02:38:27,720
Speaker 4: out there and they jump to the conclusions.

3185
02:38:27,760 --> 02:38:33,480
Speaker 1: Okay, well that was because of this, you know, Like

3186
02:38:35,160 --> 02:38:35,440
Speaker 1: you know, I.

3187
02:38:35,480 --> 02:38:42,680
Speaker 4: Interviewed Dion Dawkins yesterday, the captain of the Buffalo Bills,

3188
02:38:43,720 --> 02:38:47,520
Speaker 4: and we talked about the Tomorrow Hamblin cardiac arrests that

3189
02:38:47,600 --> 02:38:50,720
Speaker 4: happened last year. Remember he had the cardiacer. He had

3190
02:38:50,720 --> 02:38:53,640
Speaker 4: a heart attack right there on the field. Everyone thought

3191
02:38:53,680 --> 02:38:56,959
Speaker 4: he was going to die. What does social media say?

3192
02:38:59,160 --> 02:39:04,080
Speaker 4: It's because he was back right, right, that's all I saw.

3193
02:39:04,640 --> 02:39:09,840
Speaker 4: Vaccinated was trending number one. Who who the fuck knows

3194
02:39:09,879 --> 02:39:11,080
Speaker 4: if he was vaccinated or not?

3195
02:39:11,760 --> 02:39:11,920
Speaker 1: Right?

3196
02:39:12,000 --> 02:39:15,480
Speaker 4: Who who knows this? Because this is not public information.

3197
02:39:17,360 --> 02:39:20,000
Speaker 4: This man had a one in a billion situation where

3198
02:39:20,600 --> 02:39:22,720
Speaker 4: I heard a doctor explain it. If your heartbeat as

3199
02:39:22,920 --> 02:39:25,600
Speaker 4: going up and you get a really strong impact as

3200
02:39:25,640 --> 02:39:28,320
Speaker 4: it's going in a certain direction, you could have a

3201
02:39:28,360 --> 02:39:29,039
Speaker 4: cardiac arrest.

3202
02:39:29,080 --> 02:39:32,240
Speaker 1: And it just so happened that out of the thousands

3203
02:39:32,280 --> 02:39:33,720
Speaker 1: and thousands and thousands.

3204
02:39:33,400 --> 02:39:36,440
Speaker 4: Of games with the tens of the hundred of thousands

3205
02:39:36,440 --> 02:39:38,199
Speaker 4: of players, this just happened he had a cardiac arrest.

3206
02:39:38,200 --> 02:39:41,000
Speaker 4: But people will be like, he got vaccinated and that's

3207
02:39:41,000 --> 02:39:42,760
Speaker 4: why he had a heart attack, and he's Look, he's

3208
02:39:43,200 --> 02:39:45,360
Speaker 4: twenty six years old and he's healthy. There's no other

3209
02:39:45,400 --> 02:39:47,480
Speaker 4: explanation for this. And this is what we're gonna run with.

3210
02:39:48,720 --> 02:39:51,240
Speaker 4: And this is just what social media does. This is

3211
02:39:51,280 --> 02:39:54,800
Speaker 4: the nature of the beasts. Right, So when you see

3212
02:39:55,200 --> 02:39:59,360
Speaker 4: ar Ab get thirty years and you see an interview

3213
02:39:59,400 --> 02:40:04,280
Speaker 4: with DJ lad where he's talking about his past criminal activities,

3214
02:40:04,720 --> 02:40:09,280
Speaker 4: what he used to do, you start to try to

3215
02:40:09,560 --> 02:40:12,920
Speaker 4: put the pieces together and say, well, obviously this is

3216
02:40:13,000 --> 02:40:17,200
Speaker 4: why he got to thirty years. You're not reading the transcripts,

3217
02:40:18,280 --> 02:40:20,760
Speaker 4: you're not talking to him, you're not talking to his lawyer,

3218
02:40:21,040 --> 02:40:24,320
Speaker 4: you're not watching the news, you're not reading articles about

3219
02:40:24,360 --> 02:40:27,160
Speaker 4: the case. You got this lad TV interview with a

3220
02:40:27,200 --> 02:40:29,720
Speaker 4: million views, and you're like, well, this, this is the

3221
02:40:29,959 --> 02:40:34,680
Speaker 4: this is the connection. Obviously, reality is Aarb had a

3222
02:40:34,720 --> 02:40:38,840
Speaker 4: snitch who testified against who took the stand against everybody

3223
02:40:40,040 --> 02:40:41,920
Speaker 4: about a bunch of shit that had nothing to do

3224
02:40:42,000 --> 02:40:46,320
Speaker 4: with my interview. He took the stand and testified against

3225
02:40:46,360 --> 02:40:51,320
Speaker 4: every fucking person who put everyone in prison over over

3226
02:40:51,480 --> 02:40:55,400
Speaker 4: some really serious charges. But people are going to jump

3227
02:40:55,440 --> 02:40:59,440
Speaker 4: to conclusions, you know. And then and then you get

3228
02:40:59,440 --> 02:41:02,640
Speaker 4: fake articles, and then you get this this unknown media

3229
02:41:02,720 --> 02:41:09,560
Speaker 4: outlet who you've never heard of before writes an article

3230
02:41:09,680 --> 02:41:14,240
Speaker 4: that says, judge thanks dj vladd for helping the convict Arab.

3231
02:41:14,320 --> 02:41:17,560
Speaker 4: And it shows like this white judge who's not even

3232
02:41:17,600 --> 02:41:20,640
Speaker 4: the judge on the case. It's not The New York Times,

3233
02:41:20,680 --> 02:41:23,359
Speaker 4: it's an outlet no one's ever heard of. And suddenly

3234
02:41:23,440 --> 02:41:28,600
Speaker 4: I'm trending, and motherfucker is like Questlove is like retweeting

3235
02:41:28,640 --> 02:41:31,200
Speaker 4: it and commenting about the shit. And he's got ten

3236
02:41:31,240 --> 02:41:34,200
Speaker 4: million fucking subscribers, and he doesn't, you know. And then

3237
02:41:34,200 --> 02:41:36,520
Speaker 4: when I tell him this shit is fake and show

3238
02:41:36,600 --> 02:41:38,960
Speaker 4: him talking about it, he blocks me, like you know

3239
02:41:39,000 --> 02:41:40,199
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, instead of taking.

3240
02:41:40,000 --> 02:41:44,160
Speaker 1: Responsibility for what he just fucking did. And then this

3241
02:41:44,480 --> 02:41:45,440
Speaker 1: just builds and.

3242
02:41:45,480 --> 02:41:47,840
Speaker 4: Then people would just jump to their conclusions.

3243
02:41:47,360 --> 02:41:48,520
Speaker 1: And this is what she got a hold.

3244
02:41:48,800 --> 02:41:52,360
Speaker 4: Has Aarb ever said that something I did with Ladd

3245
02:41:53,000 --> 02:41:54,320
Speaker 4: has something to do with his situation?

3246
02:41:55,080 --> 02:41:57,520
Speaker 1: No, what does he have to lose at this point,

3247
02:41:58,200 --> 02:42:02,400
Speaker 1: He's doing his time. That was man like, I really like.

3248
02:42:04,080 --> 02:42:06,720
Speaker 4: Swiz BEA's called me one day and said, Yo, I

3249
02:42:06,800 --> 02:42:09,520
Speaker 4: got this Philly artist named Arb that I'm fucking with.

3250
02:42:09,680 --> 02:42:13,000
Speaker 4: Can you interview him? Swiss Beas swizz Beat called me.

3251
02:42:14,040 --> 02:42:17,200
Speaker 4: I ask him, you know, swizz Swizz called me out

3252
02:42:17,240 --> 02:42:19,320
Speaker 4: of the blue and said, Yo, I got this guy.

3253
02:42:19,400 --> 02:42:21,879
Speaker 4: He's really dope. Can you interview him?

3254
02:42:22,800 --> 02:42:25,640
Speaker 1: I got you, Swizz. I interviewed him.

3255
02:42:27,640 --> 02:42:30,680
Speaker 4: The music is dope, Like you know, I'm fucking with it.

3256
02:42:30,760 --> 02:42:32,640
Speaker 4: He's talking his shit, you know. And then he gets

3257
02:42:32,680 --> 02:42:34,400
Speaker 4: into a ship with Meek Mill and he comes to

3258
02:42:34,480 --> 02:42:37,280
Speaker 4: lad TV, then becomes cool with Meek Mill, and he

3259
02:42:37,360 --> 02:42:40,600
Speaker 4: comes back to talk about that Rara, Like, you know,

3260
02:42:40,680 --> 02:42:41,959
Speaker 4: I'm fucking with him, that's my man.

3261
02:42:42,360 --> 02:42:45,080
Speaker 1: I respect him, I respect his music, Like.

3262
02:42:46,800 --> 02:42:49,760
Speaker 4: Like, this is someone I fuck with and then he

3263
02:42:49,840 --> 02:42:52,160
Speaker 4: gets he gets to thirty years and then people blame

3264
02:42:52,240 --> 02:42:52,640
Speaker 4: me for it.

3265
02:42:53,040 --> 02:42:55,240
Speaker 1: And why do you think people blame me?

3266
02:42:58,200 --> 02:43:03,880
Speaker 4: Because A see interviews about these types of situations. I

3267
02:43:04,200 --> 02:43:07,760
Speaker 4: go deep into people's stories, you know, like like the

3268
02:43:07,840 --> 02:43:11,320
Speaker 4: life story includes all the lumps and the warts and

3269
02:43:11,440 --> 02:43:15,120
Speaker 4: the scabs and the scars, you know, and the gunshot wounds,

3270
02:43:15,160 --> 02:43:17,680
Speaker 4: the knife shot wound, knife wounds and all that shit.

3271
02:43:17,800 --> 02:43:20,440
Speaker 1: Man, Like, it's some real shit that we talk about.

3272
02:43:20,760 --> 02:43:23,000
Speaker 4: I'll ask the questions that other people won't ask, so,

3273
02:43:24,000 --> 02:43:26,880
Speaker 4: you know, and we'll we'll talk about that shit. But

3274
02:43:28,200 --> 02:43:30,360
Speaker 4: but this is you know, but this is shit that

3275
02:43:30,400 --> 02:43:33,360
Speaker 4: I'm careful about about statutes of limitations and shit that

3276
02:43:33,440 --> 02:43:36,600
Speaker 4: you're not actively doing. Like I'm not asking what you're

3277
02:43:36,640 --> 02:43:40,880
Speaker 4: doing right now. I bought a kilo cocaine, you know,

3278
02:43:41,040 --> 02:43:43,520
Speaker 4: back in the nineties. I've talked about that shit. It's fast.

3279
02:43:43,560 --> 02:43:48,600
Speaker 1: The Statute of limitations two twenty four, yeah, twenty four years,

3280
02:43:48,800 --> 02:43:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, longer than that, exactly longer than that.

3281
02:43:52,040 --> 02:43:54,320
Speaker 4: It's like twenty seven twenty eight years, Like, you know

3282
02:43:54,320 --> 02:43:56,640
Speaker 4: what I mean, Listen, I know I could talk. I've

3283
02:43:56,680 --> 02:43:58,800
Speaker 4: earned the right to talk about the dude that written

3284
02:43:58,800 --> 02:44:00,680
Speaker 4: me off for the kilo cocaine and I spent the

3285
02:44:00,760 --> 02:44:03,640
Speaker 4: seventeen thousand and I'm allowed to monetize that and put

3286
02:44:03,680 --> 02:44:05,760
Speaker 4: that out there and let people know that's part of

3287
02:44:05,800 --> 02:44:09,000
Speaker 4: my story. And everyone who sits down is allowed to

3288
02:44:09,080 --> 02:44:11,400
Speaker 4: do in the same manner. You know, someone who did

3289
02:44:11,440 --> 02:44:13,680
Speaker 4: their prison time is allowed to talk about why they

3290
02:44:13,720 --> 02:44:16,280
Speaker 4: do their prison time. They've earned that right with the

3291
02:44:16,360 --> 02:44:18,840
Speaker 4: most valuable thing in their life, which is their time.

3292
02:44:19,560 --> 02:44:23,000
Speaker 3: So let me ask you, what was the first time

3293
02:44:23,120 --> 02:44:25,400
Speaker 3: where you got scrutinized because of that?

3294
02:44:26,200 --> 02:44:26,720
Speaker 2: What was it?

3295
02:44:27,080 --> 02:44:27,440
Speaker 3: Ar ab?

3296
02:44:27,800 --> 02:44:28,400
Speaker 1: Was it like?

3297
02:44:29,000 --> 02:44:34,160
Speaker 3: Because I watched Adam twenty two, right, and I'm looking

3298
02:44:34,200 --> 02:44:37,199
Speaker 3: at Adam, They're like, oh, you have some flat TV shit,

3299
02:44:37,440 --> 02:44:40,600
Speaker 3: that's what they tell Adam, And I'm sitting back like,

3300
02:44:40,920 --> 02:44:41,840
Speaker 3: god damn cat.

3301
02:44:41,840 --> 02:44:44,760
Speaker 1: Williams told that too. Wally Deedle a the interview, Like, okay, Flad,

3302
02:44:46,160 --> 02:44:49,160
Speaker 1: he said, he said to will Yeah, you get out

3303
02:44:49,200 --> 02:44:49,440
Speaker 1: of here.

3304
02:44:49,920 --> 02:44:54,720
Speaker 3: So because you've been schoolinized with this, like if you

3305
02:44:54,800 --> 02:44:57,360
Speaker 3: go to vlad, you go to jail, right, at some

3306
02:44:57,480 --> 02:45:01,520
Speaker 3: point or you're telling on yourself. Ah, you're telling on yourself.

3307
02:45:03,400 --> 02:45:05,879
Speaker 4: I mean, apart from the KIFI situation, I've never heard

3308
02:45:05,879 --> 02:45:09,760
Speaker 4: of that actually happening. Just to keep it one hundred, like,

3309
02:45:09,879 --> 02:45:12,480
Speaker 4: I've never heard of our stuff actually being used an

3310
02:45:12,560 --> 02:45:17,720
Speaker 4: interview being used against someone in a case that they

3311
02:45:17,760 --> 02:45:22,080
Speaker 4: actually talked about. In my in my rationale for for

3312
02:45:22,320 --> 02:45:24,440
Speaker 4: the KFD interview was that he wrote a fucking book.

3313
02:45:26,120 --> 02:45:29,360
Speaker 1: Okay, like you wrote a book. This is I didn't.

3314
02:45:29,360 --> 02:45:30,560
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't find you.

3315
02:45:31,480 --> 02:45:34,920
Speaker 4: Living in Iowa somewhere and put you on you know,

3316
02:45:35,040 --> 02:45:36,800
Speaker 4: run up on you as you're going to your job,

3317
02:45:36,959 --> 02:45:39,640
Speaker 4: and have you blurred out a bunch of people solve

3318
02:45:39,720 --> 02:45:46,959
Speaker 4: the crime. Let's just do it is, you know, outside

3319
02:45:46,959 --> 02:45:48,640
Speaker 4: of the view, I've never I've never heard of that

3320
02:45:48,720 --> 02:45:51,760
Speaker 4: happening because I've always been very careful and i've always

3321
02:45:52,720 --> 02:45:56,520
Speaker 4: you know, like, I've never asked the person what type

3322
02:45:56,560 --> 02:45:59,840
Speaker 4: of crimes, anything illegal they're doing right now or within

3323
02:46:00,000 --> 02:46:02,959
Speaker 4: a certain amount of time that it can't actually come

3324
02:46:03,080 --> 02:46:05,000
Speaker 4: come back and bite them. I'll never talk to someone

3325
02:46:05,040 --> 02:46:07,720
Speaker 4: about a murder unless the fourth he wrote a book

3326
02:46:07,720 --> 02:46:08,920
Speaker 4: about the murder, you.

3327
02:46:08,959 --> 02:46:13,920
Speaker 1: Know, I mean, but an unsolved murder. Do I know murderers?

3328
02:46:14,240 --> 02:46:18,480
Speaker 4: I'm sure I do. I'm sure I do, But not

3329
02:46:18,800 --> 02:46:20,920
Speaker 4: on camera or off camera. Would I ever asked them

3330
02:46:20,920 --> 02:46:23,600
Speaker 4: about it? Because there's those satual limitations behind that, as

3331
02:46:23,640 --> 02:46:26,160
Speaker 4: you can see with Kiefy D thirty years later.

3332
02:46:26,480 --> 02:46:27,480
Speaker 1: Wow, you know so.

3333
02:46:27,800 --> 02:46:31,640
Speaker 4: So it's just one of those things, man. But but

3334
02:46:31,760 --> 02:46:34,520
Speaker 4: I was the only one that would ask these type

3335
02:46:34,560 --> 02:46:38,920
Speaker 4: of questions to begin with. Everyone else, like wle XL

3336
02:46:39,040 --> 02:46:41,280
Speaker 4: wasn't doing that. Fun Masterflex wasn't doing that sway, he

3337
02:46:41,400 --> 02:46:44,840
Speaker 4: was not doing that. Angie Martinez was not doing that.

3338
02:46:45,080 --> 02:46:47,320
Speaker 4: Big Boy was not doing that. That's my man, that's

3339
02:46:47,360 --> 02:46:49,200
Speaker 4: my neighbor. I love him, but he wasn't doing these

3340
02:46:49,240 --> 02:46:53,560
Speaker 4: type of interviews and he knows it. Ralph McDaniels wasn't

3341
02:46:53,640 --> 02:46:56,520
Speaker 4: doing it. Ed Lover wasn't doing it. Fab five Freddy

3342
02:46:56,680 --> 02:47:00,400
Speaker 4: wasn't doing it. Big Vaughn wasn't doing it for the Bay.

3343
02:47:00,640 --> 02:47:02,800
Speaker 1: Like I can go on and on and on and

3344
02:47:02,920 --> 02:47:03,960
Speaker 1: on and on and on and on.

3345
02:47:04,280 --> 02:47:05,920
Speaker 4: I was the one that said, Yo, I'm going to

3346
02:47:05,959 --> 02:47:08,000
Speaker 4: do these type of interviews, and I'm going to do

3347
02:47:08,040 --> 02:47:10,240
Speaker 4: it in the hip hop space, and I'm going to

3348
02:47:10,320 --> 02:47:11,760
Speaker 4: do it in the sports Face. I'm going to do

3349
02:47:11,840 --> 02:47:13,400
Speaker 4: it in the crime space. I'm going to do it

3350
02:47:13,480 --> 02:47:15,800
Speaker 4: in the movie space if it's if it's applicable. Now,

3351
02:47:15,879 --> 02:47:17,720
Speaker 4: if I'm talking to John B I can't really ask

3352
02:47:17,800 --> 02:47:20,600
Speaker 4: him about the live ship he did because he's never

3353
02:47:20,720 --> 02:47:21,879
Speaker 4: really done any grimey ship.

3354
02:47:22,160 --> 02:47:24,520
Speaker 1: He grew up in a middle class background and he

3355
02:47:24,600 --> 02:47:25,119
Speaker 1: started singing.

3356
02:47:25,200 --> 02:47:27,320
Speaker 4: He hooked up with baby Face, and you know he

3357
02:47:27,400 --> 02:47:29,880
Speaker 4: has the bit records the end, Like I can't ask

3358
02:47:30,480 --> 02:47:32,640
Speaker 4: someone about some ship that they don't have nothing to

3359
02:47:32,680 --> 02:47:33,080
Speaker 4: do with them.

3360
02:47:33,120 --> 02:47:37,200
Speaker 1: But I was the one that I felt had had

3361
02:47:37,280 --> 02:47:39,240
Speaker 1: the guts to ask.

3362
02:47:39,120 --> 02:47:41,280
Speaker 4: Those uncomfortable questionsuse you don't know what the fuck will happen,

3363
02:47:41,600 --> 02:47:44,560
Speaker 4: person can walk out, person get angry, you know you

3364
02:47:45,560 --> 02:47:48,080
Speaker 4: And that's and that that comes with the art of

3365
02:47:48,160 --> 02:47:50,800
Speaker 4: an interview. Like I heard someone say, like, Yo, you

3366
02:47:50,840 --> 02:47:52,920
Speaker 4: don't do ship. All you do is talk to people.

3367
02:47:53,000 --> 02:47:57,520
Speaker 4: Anybody could do that, so so not true. You take

3368
02:47:58,600 --> 02:48:01,320
Speaker 4: you go sit down in front of a stranger for

3369
02:48:01,480 --> 02:48:02,519
Speaker 4: two hours.

3370
02:48:03,800 --> 02:48:04,640
Speaker 1: And create.

3371
02:48:05,879 --> 02:48:09,440
Speaker 4: A exciting piece of content in real time, with no

3372
02:48:09,600 --> 02:48:13,360
Speaker 4: do overs, with no b roll, with no let's try

3373
02:48:13,360 --> 02:48:15,760
Speaker 4: it again like you do that. I've seen people do

3374
02:48:15,920 --> 02:48:18,160
Speaker 4: that and fifteen minutes later, they don't know what to do,

3375
02:48:18,480 --> 02:48:19,480
Speaker 4: like the interview's over.

3376
02:48:19,720 --> 02:48:21,959
Speaker 1: They don't know like to be able to maneuver.

3377
02:48:22,080 --> 02:48:28,120
Speaker 4: You could ask anyone anything, the most uncomfortable private question.

3378
02:48:28,320 --> 02:48:31,400
Speaker 4: You could ask them if you know the craft of

3379
02:48:31,560 --> 02:48:35,680
Speaker 4: how to ease into that question. It's a craft. You

3380
02:48:35,760 --> 02:48:38,360
Speaker 4: can't learn it in school. You can't have someone pull

3381
02:48:38,400 --> 02:48:40,800
Speaker 4: you aside and tell you how to do it. It's practice.

3382
02:48:41,640 --> 02:48:46,320
Speaker 4: This is me, yes, roughly eighteen years of doing this

3383
02:48:46,480 --> 02:48:49,800
Speaker 4: for a living, like figuring out how to ease into

3384
02:48:49,879 --> 02:48:54,160
Speaker 4: a question and actually getting an answer, and getting an

3385
02:48:54,200 --> 02:48:56,760
Speaker 4: honest answer, and getting a sincere answer, and sometimes having

3386
02:48:56,800 --> 02:49:00,920
Speaker 4: the person cry, like earlier today with Trigg Daddy.

3387
02:49:01,600 --> 02:49:03,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, to have to have a

3388
02:49:03,440 --> 02:49:04,959
Speaker 1: person burst into tears that you.

3389
02:49:05,040 --> 02:49:09,520
Speaker 4: You've hit You've hit them so hard, almost like a

3390
02:49:09,600 --> 02:49:12,520
Speaker 4: therapy session in a way. This you know what I'm saying,

3391
02:49:12,840 --> 02:49:19,440
Speaker 4: And nobody else was doing that, and now you see

3392
02:49:19,440 --> 02:49:22,200
Speaker 4: a lot of people doing that. There's a lot of

3393
02:49:22,240 --> 02:49:24,440
Speaker 4: people that looked at what I was doing said Okay,

3394
02:49:24,600 --> 02:49:27,640
Speaker 4: well I guess you can. This isn't a taboo subject.

3395
02:49:27,680 --> 02:49:29,920
Speaker 4: Maybe I could do this to a certain degree. I

3396
02:49:29,959 --> 02:49:32,760
Speaker 4: see a lot of people that have, you know, us

3397
02:49:32,879 --> 02:49:34,920
Speaker 4: bits and pieces of what I do and created dope

3398
02:49:34,920 --> 02:49:36,640
Speaker 4: shit out of it. And that's what we're supposed to do.

3399
02:49:36,720 --> 02:49:39,360
Speaker 4: We're supposed to there's supposed to be like a baby

3400
02:49:39,440 --> 02:49:42,600
Speaker 4: drink champ somewhere or someone Hey, yeah, you know, gonna

3401
02:49:42,600 --> 02:49:44,040
Speaker 4: get some liquor, you know.

3402
02:49:44,720 --> 02:49:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know what I'm saying. I'm not aware

3403
02:49:47,440 --> 02:49:50,160
Speaker 1: of book. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm sure of it.

3404
02:49:50,520 --> 02:49:54,160
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's baby flags out, flat TV's out. There's

3405
02:49:54,200 --> 02:49:55,240
Speaker 4: plenty of them, and that's cool.

3406
02:49:55,240 --> 02:49:55,800
Speaker 1: That's what we're.

3407
02:49:55,640 --> 02:49:58,040
Speaker 4: Supposed to do, as long as you're not you're not

3408
02:49:58,160 --> 02:49:59,680
Speaker 4: tricking people to watch the ship.

3409
02:50:00,760 --> 02:50:02,400
Speaker 1: You know. It's if I feel.

3410
02:50:02,240 --> 02:50:04,600
Speaker 3: Regret putting the numbers up, like you know how like

3411
02:50:04,760 --> 02:50:07,120
Speaker 3: Netflix don't put the numbers up. They just show you

3412
02:50:07,280 --> 02:50:11,520
Speaker 3: this is the number one interview because why you putting

3413
02:50:11,520 --> 02:50:12,160
Speaker 3: the numbers up?

3414
02:50:12,520 --> 02:50:15,560
Speaker 1: Somebody thought that they owed you or you owe them.

3415
02:50:17,120 --> 02:50:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean that's always going to be the case, right,

3416
02:50:21,000 --> 02:50:32,640
Speaker 1: meaning that like whether there's money.

3417
02:50:32,560 --> 02:50:35,840
Speaker 4: Changing hands or not, when you sit down and do

3418
02:50:35,959 --> 02:50:36,400
Speaker 4: something like.

3419
02:50:36,440 --> 02:50:42,680
Speaker 1: This, it's a business deal. Yes, right, I understand that.

3420
02:50:44,680 --> 02:50:46,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna come here and give you the most valuable

3421
02:50:46,600 --> 02:50:48,840
Speaker 4: thing that I owe my time for as long as

3422
02:50:48,879 --> 02:50:53,000
Speaker 4: you want. Thank you, and you could ask me. You know, yes,

3423
02:50:53,480 --> 02:50:55,480
Speaker 4: there are a few stipulations we talked about, but in general,

3424
02:50:55,520 --> 02:50:58,400
Speaker 4: you could ask me whatever you want and you're gonna

3425
02:50:58,440 --> 02:51:02,520
Speaker 4: take this and you go monetize it and you're going

3426
02:51:02,600 --> 02:51:03,400
Speaker 4: to make money off that.

3427
02:51:03,920 --> 02:51:04,800
Speaker 1: And I understand that.

3428
02:51:06,600 --> 02:51:09,600
Speaker 4: And I'm doing it for my own personal reasons, you

3429
02:51:09,680 --> 02:51:12,840
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And whatever our arrangement is our arrangement.

3430
02:51:13,200 --> 02:51:16,160
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm getting a million dollars to do this interview.

3431
02:51:16,480 --> 02:51:19,320
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm doing it because I want the publicity, you know.

3432
02:51:19,440 --> 02:51:22,000
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm doing it because of our relationship, you know.

3433
02:51:22,000 --> 02:51:22,360
Speaker 2: What I mean.

3434
02:51:22,760 --> 02:51:24,760
Speaker 4: Maybe at one point I might call you and has

3435
02:51:24,800 --> 02:51:28,680
Speaker 4: to do my platform. It's a deal on some sort,

3436
02:51:28,840 --> 02:51:32,280
Speaker 4: whether spoken or unspoken. But coming into it, everyone pretty

3437
02:51:32,360 --> 02:51:35,240
Speaker 4: much understands. You know what I'm saying. I understand, like

3438
02:51:36,280 --> 02:51:41,400
Speaker 4: whatever you make, you make right. What happens sometimes, and

3439
02:51:41,520 --> 02:51:43,520
Speaker 4: especially if a person isn't where they want to be,

3440
02:51:45,240 --> 02:51:49,800
Speaker 4: they'll be like, all right, well this video really made

3441
02:51:49,800 --> 02:51:52,640
Speaker 4: a lot for you. Why don't you break me off?

3442
02:51:53,600 --> 02:51:57,200
Speaker 4: To my other artists, to you whoever. I've had this

3443
02:51:57,320 --> 02:52:04,280
Speaker 4: conversation with people. You know what I mean, Like, I'll

3444
02:52:04,320 --> 02:52:09,480
Speaker 4: bring one up like Riffraff, right, Riffraff. Like I gave

3445
02:52:09,600 --> 02:52:12,480
Speaker 4: Riffraff one of his early interviews. Diplo called me up.

3446
02:52:12,680 --> 02:52:14,400
Speaker 4: You know how we get these phone calls, you know

3447
02:52:14,440 --> 02:52:17,280
Speaker 4: what I mean, Diplo glad you know me. I was

3448
02:52:17,360 --> 02:52:19,240
Speaker 4: rocking with Diplo at the time, and you know whatever

3449
02:52:19,360 --> 02:52:22,920
Speaker 4: else He's like, Yo, I just I just signed the

3450
02:52:23,000 --> 02:52:26,600
Speaker 4: artist named riff Raff and you get him on your show. Okay,

3451
02:52:26,720 --> 02:52:28,720
Speaker 4: check him out. Okay, this dude's entertaining, you know what

3452
02:52:28,760 --> 02:52:31,880
Speaker 4: I mean, Like called him up.

3453
02:52:33,480 --> 02:52:37,400
Speaker 1: You know he did his number. Yeah, he connected us.

3454
02:52:37,640 --> 02:52:39,200
Speaker 1: I hit him up. He's in New York.

3455
02:52:39,400 --> 02:52:41,760
Speaker 4: We do the interview. It's actually kind of dope. He

3456
02:52:41,800 --> 02:52:44,160
Speaker 4: has this crazy personality. We take him shopping. I take

3457
02:52:44,240 --> 02:52:46,280
Speaker 4: him the Gucci store and buy him some shit on camera,

3458
02:52:46,400 --> 02:52:48,160
Speaker 4: and you know it's it does well.

3459
02:52:48,320 --> 02:52:49,640
Speaker 1: It gets a whole bunch of views.

3460
02:52:51,720 --> 02:52:53,480
Speaker 4: I think we do another interview, and then for like

3461
02:52:53,520 --> 02:52:57,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, like seven eight years, we don't do anything.

3462
02:52:57,480 --> 02:52:57,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

3463
02:52:58,000 --> 02:52:59,680
Speaker 4: We reached out with a couple of times. We're supposed

3464
02:52:59,680 --> 02:53:02,320
Speaker 4: to do some he cancels last minute.

3465
02:53:02,360 --> 02:53:07,359
Speaker 1: Whatever. Life goes on whatever we do this interview.

3466
02:53:09,080 --> 02:53:09,160
Speaker 4: And.

3467
02:53:12,480 --> 02:53:17,320
Speaker 1: He hitsed me up after the fact. It was like, Yo,

3468
02:53:17,560 --> 02:53:19,440
Speaker 1: I've been hearing that you pay for you know, you know,

3469
02:53:19,879 --> 02:53:20,280
Speaker 1: like oh.

3470
02:53:20,360 --> 02:53:23,800
Speaker 4: People like bousy. You know I heard they begin to

3471
02:53:23,840 --> 02:53:27,520
Speaker 4: bag or whatever else. Uh, you know, you need to

3472
02:53:27,560 --> 02:53:30,600
Speaker 4: pay me five grand for that interview. But I'm not

3473
02:53:30,840 --> 02:53:32,920
Speaker 4: gonna give you five grands. They even didn't even do well,

3474
02:53:33,640 --> 02:53:36,400
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, the energy was all he was

3475
02:53:36,400 --> 02:53:39,440
Speaker 4: already out, already out. It didn't do well, It didn't

3476
02:53:39,480 --> 02:53:42,200
Speaker 4: relatively low numbers because he was just like really kind

3477
02:53:42,240 --> 02:53:43,920
Speaker 4: of wasn't the same riff raft. He was sort of

3478
02:53:44,000 --> 02:53:47,360
Speaker 4: like a little depressed and kind of more guarded, and

3479
02:53:47,640 --> 02:53:50,240
Speaker 4: you know, life had happened, and whatever happened, whatever happened

3480
02:53:50,240 --> 02:53:52,520
Speaker 4: was a very interesting interview, and the numbers showed it.

3481
02:53:52,600 --> 02:53:53,880
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, I want like five grand.

3482
02:53:53,920 --> 02:53:56,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, man, like if we had had a

3483
02:53:56,560 --> 02:53:59,760
Speaker 4: conversation about this ahead of time, there there might have

3484
02:53:59,840 --> 02:54:03,199
Speaker 4: been in a conversation, but we never had that conversation.

3485
02:54:03,879 --> 02:54:05,720
Speaker 4: I will take my shit down then I'm not taking

3486
02:54:05,760 --> 02:54:10,360
Speaker 4: shit down. Fuck that came in. You signed with these forums.

3487
02:54:10,400 --> 02:54:13,200
Speaker 4: We spent our money. I did my fucking job. You

3488
02:54:13,400 --> 02:54:16,880
Speaker 4: you you, you got your promotion whatever else, And it's

3489
02:54:16,959 --> 02:54:19,280
Speaker 4: like that type of shit happens. People start counting your

3490
02:54:19,320 --> 02:54:21,600
Speaker 4: money and people start to feel like they're entitled to

3491
02:54:21,680 --> 02:54:23,120
Speaker 4: certain type of things and stuff like that.

3492
02:54:23,280 --> 02:54:25,560
Speaker 1: But but that's not the agreement.

3493
02:54:26,080 --> 02:54:28,280
Speaker 4: You know, if this interview got fifty million views, if

3494
02:54:28,320 --> 02:54:30,160
Speaker 4: this became the new Cat Williams interview, I know it won't,

3495
02:54:30,160 --> 02:54:32,440
Speaker 4: but I'm saying if it did, I'm not gonna call

3496
02:54:32,480 --> 02:54:33,560
Speaker 4: you and ask you for a check.

3497
02:54:34,080 --> 02:54:36,520
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that one hundred percent no.

3498
02:54:36,879 --> 02:54:40,440
Speaker 3: But when was it at that moment where you realize that,

3499
02:54:40,600 --> 02:54:44,680
Speaker 3: holy shit, I have to like kind of like monetize

3500
02:54:44,760 --> 02:54:46,560
Speaker 3: this whole situation, meaning.

3501
02:54:46,400 --> 02:54:49,720
Speaker 1: What like like meaning like from the beginning, he was

3502
02:54:49,800 --> 02:54:50,840
Speaker 1: like from.

3503
02:54:50,760 --> 02:54:53,880
Speaker 3: The beginning, you knew once you interview somebody you needed

3504
02:54:55,080 --> 02:54:55,600
Speaker 3: you needed.

3505
02:54:56,720 --> 02:55:01,440
Speaker 4: All right, Look, so okay, before I'm glad, t was DVDs, right,

3506
02:55:01,520 --> 02:55:04,240
Speaker 4: Like like I told you said, we would interview, I

3507
02:55:04,240 --> 02:55:08,800
Speaker 4: would interview people out get unreleased music videos. I'd do

3508
02:55:08,920 --> 02:55:11,680
Speaker 4: other wild shit, you know, and try to compete with

3509
02:55:11,879 --> 02:55:14,720
Speaker 4: Smacks of the World and Defendes of the world and

3510
02:55:15,000 --> 02:55:17,959
Speaker 4: so far I'd be putting out the DVDs. But DVDs

3511
02:55:18,000 --> 02:55:20,840
Speaker 4: are going away, and I'd have to put out more

3512
02:55:20,959 --> 02:55:23,640
Speaker 4: DVDs every the next month to try to make the

3513
02:55:23,680 --> 02:55:26,240
Speaker 4: money that the same money they did the previous month.

3514
02:55:26,600 --> 02:55:28,400
Speaker 4: And it's you know, I had just gone through this

3515
02:55:28,440 --> 02:55:31,560
Speaker 4: shit with mixtapes, so it's really fucking frustrating, and you know,

3516
02:55:31,680 --> 02:55:37,320
Speaker 4: I'm struggling financially. And then YouTube came around, and I'm like, yo,

3517
02:55:38,320 --> 02:55:41,640
Speaker 4: you mean to tell me that I could put out

3518
02:55:42,120 --> 02:55:44,600
Speaker 4: I could shoot the same content that I'm doing on DVDs,

3519
02:55:45,240 --> 02:55:48,680
Speaker 4: I could put it out on YouTube and when other

3520
02:55:48,840 --> 02:55:51,800
Speaker 4: sites and if the content is intriguing enough, you have

3521
02:55:52,000 --> 02:55:54,039
Speaker 4: the blogs and now rights and the on sites are

3522
02:55:54,200 --> 02:55:56,600
Speaker 4: the complexes and the world Stars and anything else like that.

3523
02:55:57,480 --> 02:55:59,720
Speaker 4: You mean to tell me that if they then embed

3524
02:56:00,200 --> 02:56:04,720
Speaker 4: this video and do an article about it, then I

3525
02:56:04,800 --> 02:56:10,320
Speaker 4: will get their views. I will monetize through their fan base.

3526
02:56:12,400 --> 02:56:16,960
Speaker 1: Thing like like the light bulb went off, I stopped DJing.

3527
02:56:17,720 --> 02:56:21,040
Speaker 4: I love DJing clubs, like I did tours in Australia,

3528
02:56:21,120 --> 02:56:23,640
Speaker 4: in Europe, in the Middle East and Japan.

3529
02:56:23,520 --> 02:56:24,280
Speaker 1: Like I was.

3530
02:56:24,760 --> 02:56:28,119
Speaker 4: I'm not going to say I was, you know, hid

3531
02:56:28,200 --> 02:56:30,240
Speaker 4: Capri or anything else like that, but I was, you know,

3532
02:56:30,520 --> 02:56:32,440
Speaker 4: touring around and doing my thing. You know, I love

3533
02:56:32,520 --> 02:56:35,760
Speaker 4: you you DJ don't not at all you of course

3534
02:56:35,840 --> 02:56:38,520
Speaker 4: DJ so you understand the thrill of DJing and and

3535
02:56:39,400 --> 02:56:42,360
Speaker 4: it's a drug, right, I had to go cold turkey

3536
02:56:42,920 --> 02:56:46,119
Speaker 4: and put that drug aside. No more DJing, no more mixtapes,

3537
02:56:48,000 --> 02:56:50,120
Speaker 4: whatever hustling shit I was doing on the side had

3538
02:56:50,160 --> 02:56:50,920
Speaker 4: to be put aside.

3539
02:56:51,000 --> 02:56:51,960
Speaker 3: It was like, Yo, this is it.

3540
02:56:52,120 --> 02:56:55,520
Speaker 4: The blog was that to start the blogs, to start

3541
02:56:55,560 --> 02:56:58,400
Speaker 4: the YouTube channel, the YouTube, the YouTube channel, the YouTube channel.

3542
02:56:58,440 --> 02:57:01,920
Speaker 1: Who the fuck tells you that? Well? YouTube introduces partner

3543
02:57:01,959 --> 02:57:03,200
Speaker 1: program in two thousand and eight.

3544
02:57:03,280 --> 02:57:04,880
Speaker 4: Before then, it was just like a It was like

3545
02:57:04,959 --> 02:57:06,920
Speaker 4: TikTok for you, just free for all. You put up

3546
02:57:06,920 --> 02:57:11,680
Speaker 4: ship and you get some views. Whatever partner program which monetize. Yeah,

3547
02:57:11,840 --> 02:57:13,400
Speaker 4: so two thousand and eight to turn into a real

3548
02:57:13,480 --> 02:57:17,480
Speaker 4: business and you get paid off. Then run ads through

3549
02:57:17,520 --> 02:57:21,879
Speaker 4: the YouTube channel, and the more views, the more ads,

3550
02:57:21,959 --> 02:57:24,280
Speaker 4: the more revenue you're paying with your eyeballs. Like Leo

3551
02:57:24,480 --> 02:57:27,240
Speaker 4: likes to say, your complex thing had nothing to do

3552
02:57:27,320 --> 02:57:30,480
Speaker 4: with your YouTuber, did it? Long story? I don't want

3553
02:57:30,480 --> 02:57:36,400
Speaker 4: to comment on that, right, but I saw the vision

3554
02:57:36,440 --> 02:57:38,199
Speaker 4: of it. I'm like, this is what I've been trying

3555
02:57:38,200 --> 02:57:42,640
Speaker 4: to do with the DVD shit. But this is what

3556
02:57:42,760 --> 02:57:45,520
Speaker 4: I've been waiting for technologically, to be able to put

3557
02:57:45,560 --> 02:57:48,360
Speaker 4: it out and have it be there and monetize it forever,

3558
02:57:49,280 --> 02:57:51,680
Speaker 4: and be able to grow it. And you understand the

3559
02:57:51,720 --> 02:57:53,560
Speaker 4: snowball effect of Okay, and every day I'm going to

3560
02:57:53,640 --> 02:57:55,280
Speaker 4: drop a new clip and then all the old click

3561
02:57:55,400 --> 02:57:59,600
Speaker 4: compound interest. It's compound interest exactly, exactly, compound interest, or

3562
02:57:59,600 --> 02:58:03,440
Speaker 4: a snowball, as Warren Buffett like to say, I just

3563
02:58:03,520 --> 02:58:05,840
Speaker 4: saw the vision of it all. I'm like, okay, and

3564
02:58:05,959 --> 02:58:07,640
Speaker 4: this is how I'm going to build a catalog and

3565
02:58:08,000 --> 02:58:11,360
Speaker 4: so forth, and then and then over time, okay, And

3566
02:58:11,400 --> 02:58:13,160
Speaker 4: then I can have as opposed to finding a new

3567
02:58:13,200 --> 02:58:15,600
Speaker 4: person to interview every week, I can have the regular

3568
02:58:15,640 --> 02:58:17,560
Speaker 4: guests to come in like the you know basically what

3569
02:58:17,720 --> 02:58:19,960
Speaker 4: like the news stations do, the pundits to come in

3570
02:58:20,040 --> 02:58:21,440
Speaker 4: and talk about current events.

3571
02:58:22,120 --> 02:58:23,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, which is which is what

3572
02:58:23,720 --> 02:58:26,759
Speaker 1: all the big dogs do. Personality's got to be real personality.

3573
02:58:26,360 --> 02:58:29,600
Speaker 4: Got to be real personality. This is why Boosey is

3574
02:58:29,640 --> 02:58:35,080
Speaker 4: a real personality. Tony Yo is a real personality. Is

3575
02:58:35,120 --> 02:58:36,320
Speaker 4: a real personality.

3576
02:58:36,400 --> 02:58:39,120
Speaker 3: Well, let me give all three of those people they're

3577
02:58:39,200 --> 02:58:46,200
Speaker 3: real people, Boosy Tony yo and real people.

3578
02:58:46,400 --> 02:58:50,000
Speaker 4: Yes, So I set see and then you know, you

3579
02:58:50,080 --> 02:58:52,480
Speaker 4: build a business from there. Man, you build it out.

3580
02:58:53,320 --> 02:58:55,440
Speaker 4: You build it out. You realize it can't just be you.

3581
02:58:55,720 --> 02:58:58,320
Speaker 4: You got to reinvest the money and so forth. But

3582
02:58:58,400 --> 02:59:01,800
Speaker 4: it was always like, you know, all the years been

3583
02:59:01,840 --> 02:59:07,400
Speaker 4: building up to what YouTube, the opportunity that I saw

3584
02:59:07,440 --> 02:59:09,600
Speaker 4: on YouTube up to that point, you know, kind of

3585
02:59:09,640 --> 02:59:12,240
Speaker 4: like how Ray Kroc like found.

3586
02:59:12,000 --> 02:59:13,240
Speaker 1: McDonald's later in life.

3587
02:59:13,640 --> 02:59:16,560
Speaker 4: He knew, okay, you've been trying to sell milkshake machines

3588
02:59:16,680 --> 02:59:20,080
Speaker 4: and he knew the overall business, but when he saw McDonald's,

3589
02:59:20,080 --> 02:59:23,120
Speaker 4: he knew, like, okay, like this is this is what

3590
02:59:23,200 --> 02:59:25,280
Speaker 4: I've been waiting for, and this is what I'm going to.

3591
02:59:25,320 --> 02:59:27,200
Speaker 1: Utilize all my skill sets, you know what I mean?

3592
02:59:27,240 --> 02:59:29,840
Speaker 4: Because all the years of being a DJ and forming

3593
02:59:29,879 --> 02:59:32,200
Speaker 4: the relationship with people, and you know, me and you knew, you.

3594
02:59:32,200 --> 02:59:33,000
Speaker 1: Know, kind of ran in.

3595
02:59:33,240 --> 02:59:35,040
Speaker 4: We didn't know each other, but we hadn't run into

3596
02:59:35,080 --> 02:59:37,320
Speaker 4: each other during my DVD days. I think you're wrong

3597
02:59:37,400 --> 02:59:39,760
Speaker 4: some of my DVDs. Yes, yeah, exactly, you know what

3598
02:59:39,800 --> 02:59:42,800
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So it's like it's easier to talk to

3599
02:59:42,840 --> 02:59:44,720
Speaker 4: you because I've already met you before and when you

3600
02:59:44,879 --> 02:59:47,240
Speaker 4: know me probably from my mixtapes and everything I'd been

3601
02:59:47,280 --> 02:59:50,800
Speaker 4: doing for all those years. So from two thousand and

3602
02:59:50,800 --> 02:59:53,000
Speaker 4: two to two thousand and eight, for sixty years, I

3603
02:59:53,120 --> 02:59:57,320
Speaker 4: was trying to find my way full time, right and

3604
02:59:57,600 --> 02:59:59,959
Speaker 4: and that's it was always it was like all right,

3605
03:00:00,280 --> 03:00:06,000
Speaker 4: Like I was thirty four at the time, like yo,

3606
03:00:06,240 --> 03:00:08,560
Speaker 4: like it's it's time to be serious, Like I'm not

3607
03:00:08,640 --> 03:00:10,800
Speaker 4: going to be the fifty year old DJ still trying

3608
03:00:10,800 --> 03:00:13,600
Speaker 4: to get gigs and depending on that ship because it's

3609
03:00:13,600 --> 03:00:15,480
Speaker 4: a hard fucking life. And shout out to all the

3610
03:00:15,560 --> 03:00:18,480
Speaker 4: DJs that are going through this right now, because it's hard.

3611
03:00:19,160 --> 03:00:22,360
Speaker 4: I've been there, you know what I mean, Like there's

3612
03:00:22,360 --> 03:00:25,000
Speaker 4: no loyalty in this ship. They'll get a new DJ

3613
03:00:25,200 --> 03:00:27,400
Speaker 4: for a third of the price to do the same

3614
03:00:27,440 --> 03:00:30,640
Speaker 4: shit you're doing and not give a fuck. You know, well,

3615
03:00:30,959 --> 03:00:32,960
Speaker 4: they'll get a fucking model, an Instagram model to go

3616
03:00:33,080 --> 03:00:36,240
Speaker 4: DJ hey or ten times the amount is.

3617
03:00:36,240 --> 03:00:40,880
Speaker 3: That way on DJ normal because I never I was

3618
03:00:41,200 --> 03:00:42,480
Speaker 3: the transition to digital.

3619
03:00:42,600 --> 03:00:44,840
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't adapt too well to it.

3620
03:00:44,959 --> 03:00:47,040
Speaker 1: I was heavy on the vinyl, and that to me

3621
03:00:47,200 --> 03:00:49,120
Speaker 1: was like a culture in its own I used to

3622
03:00:49,200 --> 03:00:52,200
Speaker 1: take all my records to the club, which was bad

3623
03:00:52,240 --> 03:00:54,840
Speaker 1: on my back and oh yeah, that's a chiropractic bill

3624
03:00:54,879 --> 03:00:58,920
Speaker 1: along here. So yeah I did. I didn't get back.

3625
03:00:59,680 --> 03:01:01,320
Speaker 2: I want to give you the opportunity because you said

3626
03:01:01,320 --> 03:01:04,320
Speaker 2: something that I feel like you might rephrase it. Okay,

3627
03:01:05,560 --> 03:01:07,520
Speaker 2: you said that you feel that your impact is bigger

3628
03:01:07,560 --> 03:01:10,879
Speaker 2: than the Source magazine and Double Xcel and they say

3629
03:01:10,920 --> 03:01:13,600
Speaker 2: that you said something like that. No, no, no, what

3630
03:01:13,760 --> 03:01:16,240
Speaker 2: I said listen because I know what you mean. You

3631
03:01:16,360 --> 03:01:19,600
Speaker 2: mean in terms of like right right now, right right

3632
03:01:19,840 --> 03:01:20,280
Speaker 2: my reach.

3633
03:01:20,480 --> 03:01:21,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

3634
03:01:21,080 --> 03:01:26,640
Speaker 4: I impact right now in twenty twenty four, which is

3635
03:01:27,240 --> 03:01:33,800
Speaker 4: undeniable right now, Did the Source make a massive impact

3636
03:01:34,600 --> 03:01:37,119
Speaker 4: and when they met culturally and what they meant culturally

3637
03:01:37,320 --> 03:01:42,560
Speaker 4: at the time, and what five mics meant right and

3638
03:01:42,680 --> 03:01:46,600
Speaker 4: what Unsigned Hype meant and them just really being the only,

3639
03:01:46,920 --> 03:01:49,200
Speaker 4: you know, the bible of hip hop and anything else

3640
03:01:49,280 --> 03:01:51,880
Speaker 4: like that. Would I ever deny the importance of that?

3641
03:01:52,280 --> 03:01:52,640
Speaker 1: Of course?

3642
03:01:52,720 --> 03:01:56,160
Speaker 4: Now that's stupid Double Excel and Double XL like they

3643
03:01:56,560 --> 03:02:00,959
Speaker 4: took the torch and they really kind of eclipsed the Source,

3644
03:02:01,800 --> 03:02:04,680
Speaker 4: and you know, as the Source really kind of went

3645
03:02:04,840 --> 03:02:10,600
Speaker 4: down the tubes. Double Excel became the important voice, media

3646
03:02:10,680 --> 03:02:13,000
Speaker 4: voice and hip hop like that's where jay Z. I

3647
03:02:13,040 --> 03:02:14,360
Speaker 4: think the first Double Cell cover.

3648
03:02:14,400 --> 03:02:14,760
Speaker 1: Was jay Z.

3649
03:02:15,959 --> 03:02:18,200
Speaker 4: I'm not sure I bought it at Barnes and Noble.

3650
03:02:18,480 --> 03:02:21,600
Speaker 4: I'd buy every issue, right, I'm not just speaking out

3651
03:02:21,640 --> 03:02:24,880
Speaker 4: my ass, like just saying like, oh, who are those

3652
03:02:24,879 --> 03:02:25,520
Speaker 4: guys I never heard of?

3653
03:02:25,640 --> 03:02:27,440
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I know exactly who they are.

3654
03:02:28,000 --> 03:02:29,440
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is.

3655
03:02:31,120 --> 03:02:35,880
Speaker 4: Is that in twenty twenty four, if you ask one

3656
03:02:35,959 --> 03:02:40,040
Speaker 4: hundred thousand people who are hip hop fans on any level,

3657
03:02:43,120 --> 03:02:47,080
Speaker 4: have you seen something recently from Flat TV, the source

3658
03:02:47,200 --> 03:02:47,760
Speaker 4: or Double.

3659
03:02:49,760 --> 03:02:51,360
Speaker 1: I know what you mean, you know what you mean.

3660
03:02:51,480 --> 03:02:54,120
Speaker 1: Ninety percent of the people would say flat TV in

3661
03:02:54,200 --> 03:02:55,240
Speaker 1: two thousands.

3662
03:02:54,800 --> 03:02:57,440
Speaker 2: But someone else might not understand exactly what you mean

3663
03:02:57,480 --> 03:02:58,960
Speaker 2: and think of it as blesphem as the way you

3664
03:02:59,040 --> 03:02:59,280
Speaker 2: said it.

3665
03:02:59,360 --> 03:03:01,400
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to school like like they all

3666
03:03:01,480 --> 03:03:02,120
Speaker 1: came before me.

3667
03:03:02,280 --> 03:03:06,360
Speaker 4: Ralph, Ralph McDaniels came before me, Ed and Dre came

3668
03:03:06,440 --> 03:03:09,160
Speaker 4: before me, Five Freddy came before me.

3669
03:03:09,200 --> 03:03:10,640
Speaker 1: They're all legend. There are all people I brought to

3670
03:03:10,720 --> 03:03:14,000
Speaker 1: my platform because without a lot of the would be today.

3671
03:03:14,000 --> 03:03:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to interview Elliot Wilson.

3672
03:03:15,879 --> 03:03:18,280
Speaker 4: I've interview Dave May's and Benzino like like like, I

3673
03:03:18,360 --> 03:03:21,240
Speaker 4: mean really like like I've I've shown homage to all

3674
03:03:21,320 --> 03:03:24,720
Speaker 4: these guys, you know, Like I said, me and Elliott

3675
03:03:24,720 --> 03:03:25,279
Speaker 4: spoke easily.

3676
03:03:25,320 --> 03:03:26,600
Speaker 1: We just haven't got around to it yet.

3677
03:03:26,600 --> 03:03:29,199
Speaker 4: But all these guys I'm talking about, I have brought

3678
03:03:29,280 --> 03:03:32,360
Speaker 4: all my platform and gave them their flowers and anything

3679
03:03:32,400 --> 03:03:34,600
Speaker 4: else like that, you know what I'm saying. So so

3680
03:03:35,080 --> 03:03:38,480
Speaker 4: I'm not downplaying their contribution. But it's not their time

3681
03:03:38,560 --> 03:03:41,800
Speaker 4: right now, right right, it's not It's not their time

3682
03:03:41,879 --> 03:03:46,080
Speaker 4: right now. Their time is passed for sure. And you know,

3683
03:03:46,760 --> 03:03:48,680
Speaker 4: can they bring something out of the ashes? Who knows,

3684
03:03:49,400 --> 03:03:51,959
Speaker 4: But it hasn't happened in the last ten fifteen years,

3685
03:03:52,840 --> 03:03:54,840
Speaker 4: is all I'm saying. Right, And they should you know

3686
03:03:54,920 --> 03:03:58,240
Speaker 4: Ozone magazine another one. Yes, in the South, in the South,

3687
03:03:58,320 --> 03:04:00,520
Speaker 4: they were they were innovators and they they could be

3688
03:04:01,360 --> 03:04:03,680
Speaker 4: bigger than Flag TV and Drink Champs right now, easy,

3689
03:04:04,200 --> 03:04:04,760
Speaker 4: But they did.

3690
03:04:05,160 --> 03:04:08,880
Speaker 3: She she fumbled the ball. Your whole thoughts, I ain't

3691
03:04:08,879 --> 03:04:11,560
Speaker 3: gonna lie. Your whole ship is in your face. Everybody

3692
03:04:11,640 --> 03:04:14,040
Speaker 3: you you op, They're gonna go madgic.

3693
03:04:20,600 --> 03:04:24,520
Speaker 4: To me, and this is an example of that, of

3694
03:04:24,680 --> 03:04:30,960
Speaker 4: that right here as we're speaking. I've always felt like

3695
03:04:32,560 --> 03:04:36,560
Speaker 4: we we will win by fucking with each other, by

3696
03:04:36,720 --> 03:04:39,000
Speaker 4: all of us in this space, in this hip hop

3697
03:04:39,120 --> 03:04:43,680
Speaker 4: media space, sports media space, everything else like that, if

3698
03:04:43,760 --> 03:04:45,480
Speaker 4: we all fuck with each other.

3699
03:04:46,120 --> 03:04:48,480
Speaker 1: In a positive way, in a positive way, we.

3700
03:04:48,560 --> 03:04:51,480
Speaker 4: Fuck with each other. Like you, Yo, we share resources.

3701
03:04:51,520 --> 03:04:53,600
Speaker 4: I can call you up when I have a question,

3702
03:04:54,280 --> 03:04:56,640
Speaker 4: you know, I put you on when there's an opportunity,

3703
03:04:57,040 --> 03:04:59,039
Speaker 4: there's someone I want to talk to, someone you want

3704
03:04:59,080 --> 03:05:02,160
Speaker 4: to talk to. I've been doing this longer than on

3705
03:05:02,240 --> 03:05:04,800
Speaker 4: the YouTube space, longer than anybody, so there are certain insights.

3706
03:05:04,840 --> 03:05:06,400
Speaker 1: I had really called me and asked me a few

3707
03:05:06,400 --> 03:05:07,160
Speaker 1: YouTube questions.

3708
03:05:07,480 --> 03:05:09,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, us on the weekend, let's work on

3709
03:05:10,000 --> 03:05:11,400
Speaker 4: it and let me see what I can figure out

3710
03:05:11,480 --> 03:05:13,120
Speaker 4: based on what I see. You know, I mean, we

3711
03:05:13,200 --> 03:05:16,240
Speaker 4: should all work together and fuck with each other. And

3712
03:05:16,360 --> 03:05:19,600
Speaker 4: I've seen time and time again how everyone wins. And

3713
03:05:19,680 --> 03:05:23,240
Speaker 4: when the new media guys show up, like the academics,

3714
03:05:23,720 --> 03:05:28,160
Speaker 4: like the Atom twenty two, like the Sean Cotton, you know,

3715
03:05:28,640 --> 03:05:33,040
Speaker 4: like all these guys I reach out to and I embrace,

3716
03:05:33,280 --> 03:05:35,800
Speaker 4: like the Math Office when he started doing media.

3717
03:05:36,440 --> 03:05:38,039
Speaker 1: And I go on their show.

3718
03:05:39,240 --> 03:05:42,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, man, I go on their show when they

3719
03:05:42,160 --> 03:05:44,560
Speaker 4: ask me, and I asked them to come on my show,

3720
03:05:44,959 --> 03:05:48,320
Speaker 4: and they you know, and then if there's deals in

3721
03:05:48,360 --> 03:05:48,879
Speaker 4: the works, we.

3722
03:05:48,920 --> 03:05:49,879
Speaker 1: All fuck with each other.

3723
03:05:50,440 --> 03:05:53,520
Speaker 4: And it really is disappointing when I see people in

3724
03:05:53,600 --> 03:05:56,760
Speaker 4: my space just try to be for me, and I

3725
03:05:56,840 --> 03:05:59,600
Speaker 4: think about all the opportunities that we're both losing by

3726
03:05:59,680 --> 03:06:03,240
Speaker 4: being the way right and and you know, us not

3727
03:06:03,360 --> 03:06:08,080
Speaker 4: speaking with each other. I'm like, it's disappointing. Like I know,

3728
03:06:08,320 --> 03:06:13,200
Speaker 4: I know that I could benefit from just having an

3729
03:06:13,240 --> 03:06:16,200
Speaker 4: open line of communication with Nori. He could benefit from

3730
03:06:16,240 --> 03:06:18,800
Speaker 4: having open communication with me, you know.

3731
03:06:18,800 --> 03:06:20,640
Speaker 1: What I mean. Like like just just the other day,

3732
03:06:21,640 --> 03:06:22,280
Speaker 1: they hit me up.

3733
03:06:22,360 --> 03:06:24,800
Speaker 4: Stephen the Smith's people hit me up, like, Yo, we

3734
03:06:25,120 --> 03:06:28,440
Speaker 4: want to use part of your John Sally interview on

3735
03:06:28,600 --> 03:06:31,120
Speaker 4: our show. You mean first take no, no, no, not

3736
03:06:31,240 --> 03:06:34,440
Speaker 4: first take our YouTube channel which is just not very big.

3737
03:06:34,840 --> 03:06:36,680
Speaker 4: You know, the clips are getting a few thousand views.

3738
03:06:36,680 --> 03:06:41,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, we'll have Stephen call me. I

3739
03:06:41,560 --> 03:06:42,960
Speaker 4: would like to have him on my show, but you know,

3740
03:06:43,000 --> 03:06:44,640
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm demanding it, but you know, have

3741
03:06:44,760 --> 03:06:46,440
Speaker 4: them call me will set up a line of communication

3742
03:06:47,520 --> 03:06:48,640
Speaker 4: and you can use my footage.

3743
03:06:49,240 --> 03:06:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that, you know. That's that's that'll be

3744
03:06:51,840 --> 03:06:52,240
Speaker 1: our barn.

3745
03:06:52,440 --> 03:06:54,800
Speaker 4: You know, let's talk and there's certain things you trying

3746
03:06:54,840 --> 03:06:56,760
Speaker 4: to push or I'm trying to push whatever, and if

3747
03:06:56,800 --> 03:06:58,680
Speaker 4: it makes sense for us to do shit with each other, cool.

3748
03:07:00,440 --> 03:07:02,160
Speaker 4: They chose not to do that, so I chose not

3749
03:07:02,240 --> 03:07:04,480
Speaker 4: to let them use my footage. And these are the

3750
03:07:04,520 --> 03:07:07,480
Speaker 4: disappointing moments for me in my space because it's like,

3751
03:07:08,600 --> 03:07:10,920
Speaker 4: we're all we're all doing this, and we and we

3752
03:07:11,040 --> 03:07:15,160
Speaker 4: missed opportunities. So when I see other media outlets that

3753
03:07:15,440 --> 03:07:20,840
Speaker 4: hate on me whatever, it's just like it hurts me

3754
03:07:20,959 --> 03:07:22,960
Speaker 4: and I know and it's hurting them at the same time,

3755
03:07:23,200 --> 03:07:26,000
Speaker 4: and it's just overall just like a disappointment, which.

3756
03:07:25,840 --> 03:07:28,720
Speaker 1: Is why I've always felt like, let.

3757
03:07:28,640 --> 03:07:30,440
Speaker 4: Me just find the opportunity to reach back out to

3758
03:07:30,520 --> 03:07:32,720
Speaker 4: Nori and and open up a lot if you it

3759
03:07:32,760 --> 03:07:34,520
Speaker 4: took about a year for us to get to this point,

3760
03:07:34,720 --> 03:07:35,240
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

3761
03:07:35,360 --> 03:07:37,959
Speaker 3: You gave me one of my best compliments ever man,

3762
03:07:38,800 --> 03:07:41,560
Speaker 3: and be honest me and you were really really, really

3763
03:07:41,680 --> 03:07:45,240
Speaker 3: really close, and by the way, I feel still feel.

3764
03:07:45,040 --> 03:07:46,480
Speaker 1: Like we were to close. I feel like we didn't

3765
03:07:46,480 --> 03:07:49,840
Speaker 1: miss something like me me personally, me personally, We weren't

3766
03:07:49,840 --> 03:07:53,640
Speaker 1: actively beefing with each You said a few thinks you.

3767
03:07:53,720 --> 03:07:55,280
Speaker 3: Said to me, you said to me, you said to

3768
03:07:55,320 --> 03:07:59,879
Speaker 3: me one day, said to me, Yo, what y'all doing?

3769
03:08:00,760 --> 03:08:04,160
Speaker 3: You did more than a magazine did in five years

3770
03:08:04,360 --> 03:08:06,800
Speaker 3: in one year, and that was one of the most

3771
03:08:07,400 --> 03:08:10,520
Speaker 3: best compliments I ever had. I don't want to say who,

3772
03:08:10,760 --> 03:08:14,280
Speaker 3: because I don't know if you have a relationship, but

3773
03:08:14,440 --> 03:08:14,760
Speaker 3: I was.

3774
03:08:14,840 --> 03:08:20,640
Speaker 1: Like, oh, ship. And then when what happened was this what?

3775
03:08:20,920 --> 03:08:25,080
Speaker 1: This is what I think happened? And you you correct

3776
03:08:25,120 --> 03:08:25,720
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong.

3777
03:08:28,400 --> 03:08:32,560
Speaker 3: Me and you had CBS and then Blast said, YO,

3778
03:08:32,600 --> 03:08:36,000
Speaker 3: hooked me up with CBS, And I said, yo, e

3779
03:08:36,160 --> 03:08:41,400
Speaker 3: f N has the relationship because I said this because

3780
03:08:41,480 --> 03:08:43,760
Speaker 3: I didn't want to have a relationship with anybody at

3781
03:08:43,840 --> 03:08:44,680
Speaker 3: CBS because I.

3782
03:08:44,680 --> 03:08:47,440
Speaker 2: Won, You didn't want to stand the contract. They're looking

3783
03:08:47,480 --> 03:08:51,800
Speaker 2: at me, so I was like, we're black. Just hit

3784
03:08:51,879 --> 03:08:52,160
Speaker 2: me out.

3785
03:08:52,400 --> 03:08:55,520
Speaker 3: In my opinion, he's looking like, you're my friend. Why

3786
03:08:55,560 --> 03:08:57,000
Speaker 3: are you sending me to e FN?

3787
03:08:57,640 --> 03:09:00,920
Speaker 1: Heit me out? Why are you telling me the EFN?

3788
03:09:01,240 --> 03:09:03,720
Speaker 3: And what I'm trying to tell you is flat I'm

3789
03:09:03,760 --> 03:09:07,880
Speaker 3: on a robbery mission, but I can't say. I can't

3790
03:09:08,000 --> 03:09:11,880
Speaker 3: say it because I'm like, yo, just let e F

3791
03:09:12,000 --> 03:09:15,359
Speaker 3: because EFN is dealing right what CBS.

3792
03:09:15,720 --> 03:09:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did that deal through crazy. Yeah, through crazy,

3793
03:09:18,879 --> 03:09:21,000
Speaker 1: I got nothing kind of to deal with it. But

3794
03:09:21,200 --> 03:09:22,400
Speaker 1: Blainn is my friend.

3795
03:09:22,760 --> 03:09:24,160
Speaker 9: So he's like, well, but just to be clear now

3796
03:09:24,160 --> 03:09:26,879
Speaker 9: because I wanted to because you didn't want to get involved. Yes,

3797
03:09:27,120 --> 03:09:31,039
Speaker 9: and I had tax problems, sir. I'm just saying I'm

3798
03:09:31,080 --> 03:09:36,000
Speaker 9: couldn't technically be on paper. I had to let right,

3799
03:09:36,360 --> 03:09:38,240
Speaker 9: you know, I mean, you don't have to explain it,

3800
03:09:38,320 --> 03:09:40,840
Speaker 9: but yeah, yeah we did. So when Blad hit me

3801
03:09:40,920 --> 03:09:41,440
Speaker 9: and I was like.

3802
03:09:41,640 --> 03:09:44,680
Speaker 1: Damn, can you go through E friend, He's like, yo,

3803
03:09:44,800 --> 03:09:48,360
Speaker 1: you my friend? Right, I could tell. I could tell.

3804
03:09:48,680 --> 03:09:52,000
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, you're my friend. Why when I

3805
03:09:52,080 --> 03:09:52,920
Speaker 1: go through EFN?

3806
03:09:53,000 --> 03:09:55,360
Speaker 3: And I was just like, I couldn't explain to you

3807
03:09:55,480 --> 03:09:58,000
Speaker 3: at the time, like I'm going through tax problems and

3808
03:09:58,040 --> 03:10:01,400
Speaker 3: going through all this and EFN is running the ship.

3809
03:10:01,520 --> 03:10:06,840
Speaker 1: So you probably thought, oh man, who, yeah, I remember

3810
03:10:06,879 --> 03:10:07,440
Speaker 1: this whole incident.

3811
03:10:07,560 --> 03:10:11,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, I have OCD, so I get overly

3812
03:10:12,840 --> 03:10:15,680
Speaker 4: focused on ship that I need to just let go sometimes.

3813
03:10:16,200 --> 03:10:19,039
Speaker 4: So I get overly focused on one particular thing, thinking

3814
03:10:19,120 --> 03:10:22,680
Speaker 4: this might potentially be a business opportunity, and I sometimes

3815
03:10:22,720 --> 03:10:25,880
Speaker 4: overdo it people and come on to everything. He followed

3816
03:10:25,959 --> 03:10:28,440
Speaker 4: up with me, But that kind of came and went. Really,

3817
03:10:28,800 --> 03:10:31,959
Speaker 4: it was the argument over me drinking on drink shamps

3818
03:10:32,040 --> 03:10:32,760
Speaker 4: that escalated.

3819
03:10:33,000 --> 03:10:34,680
Speaker 1: That was the last part. That was the last part.

3820
03:10:34,800 --> 03:10:36,360
Speaker 1: That was the last part, because me and you talk

3821
03:10:36,600 --> 03:10:37,520
Speaker 1: became cool after that.

3822
03:10:37,680 --> 03:10:39,760
Speaker 3: You got over that, and then and then I asked you.

3823
03:10:39,840 --> 03:10:41,680
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, Black co home. He was like,

3824
03:10:41,840 --> 03:10:44,000
Speaker 3: but do we really got to drink? And I was like, Black,

3825
03:10:44,040 --> 03:10:48,080
Speaker 3: come on man, you okay, Like just so you know,

3826
03:10:48,280 --> 03:10:53,960
Speaker 3: blad Man, I'm gonna be honest and we'll address everything else.

3827
03:10:55,280 --> 03:10:59,760
Speaker 1: But we appreciate you bring to the game. She brung

3828
03:10:59,840 --> 03:11:04,560
Speaker 1: to the game. How you added on to the game.

3829
03:11:05,120 --> 03:11:09,560
Speaker 3: And I understand that there's a lot of people who, Okay,

3830
03:11:09,760 --> 03:11:11,600
Speaker 3: you addressed it earlier because.

3831
03:11:11,360 --> 03:11:13,320
Speaker 1: You're white, so people people think.

3832
03:11:13,480 --> 03:11:16,960
Speaker 3: Oh, you didn't add on to the coaches. No, that's

3833
03:11:17,000 --> 03:11:22,080
Speaker 3: a certain sector of people, right, dream Champs is not

3834
03:11:22,240 --> 03:11:23,680
Speaker 3: that I know that.

3835
03:11:23,959 --> 03:11:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know.

3836
03:11:28,959 --> 03:11:32,039
Speaker 3: We just said this up for this every nationality here,

3837
03:11:32,680 --> 03:11:34,320
Speaker 3: we are the United Nations.

3838
03:11:35,800 --> 03:11:37,480
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something flat.

3839
03:11:38,280 --> 03:11:40,240
Speaker 3: As a person that I missed as a person in

3840
03:11:40,320 --> 03:11:44,440
Speaker 3: our friend, my family, I missed you, bro, And I

3841
03:11:44,520 --> 03:11:47,000
Speaker 3: want you to know that that the same way you

3842
03:11:47,080 --> 03:11:49,520
Speaker 3: gave me your platform, I want you.

3843
03:11:49,560 --> 03:11:52,880
Speaker 1: To know that this is your platform. Brother. You understand.

3844
03:11:55,280 --> 03:11:58,120
Speaker 4: Man, Man, listen, I've always wanted to do this, you know,

3845
03:11:58,680 --> 03:12:04,600
Speaker 4: And our back and forth it was dumb, you know

3846
03:12:04,640 --> 03:12:07,320
Speaker 4: what I mean, because it was like, I'll do it,

3847
03:12:07,360 --> 03:12:10,600
Speaker 4: but I'm not going to drink. That's the aesthetic, Like

3848
03:12:10,640 --> 03:12:12,440
Speaker 4: why are you going to do it? Like, well, Buffy

3849
03:12:12,480 --> 03:12:12,879
Speaker 4: got more.

3850
03:12:12,800 --> 03:12:15,480
Speaker 1: Money than you. He drank. I'm like, I'm talking about

3851
03:12:15,520 --> 03:12:17,840
Speaker 1: money like you riched out. You don't feel like I

3852
03:12:18,000 --> 03:12:18,360
Speaker 1: get back.

3853
03:12:18,640 --> 03:12:20,960
Speaker 4: The conversation is getting dumber and dumber, and it's like

3854
03:12:21,040 --> 03:12:22,520
Speaker 4: a fuck this, you know.

3855
03:12:23,040 --> 03:12:25,520
Speaker 1: It was just like it's like two five year olds like,

3856
03:12:25,600 --> 03:12:28,959
Speaker 1: you know me maturity, it's ce maturity.

3857
03:12:28,959 --> 03:12:31,480
Speaker 4: And as I'm explaining this to someone else and I'm

3858
03:12:31,520 --> 03:12:34,720
Speaker 4: saying this out loud, and I'm realizing how stupid I sound.

3859
03:12:35,320 --> 03:12:38,040
Speaker 4: As I'm explaining this as a grown man to another

3860
03:12:38,120 --> 03:12:43,400
Speaker 4: grown man, I said, hey, I got to reach out,

3861
03:12:44,200 --> 03:12:45,679
Speaker 4: reach out and apologize.

3862
03:12:46,440 --> 03:12:49,280
Speaker 1: And you know, if he's ready to talk then he'll

3863
03:12:49,320 --> 03:12:51,080
Speaker 1: be ready to go to see it doesn't count if

3864
03:12:51,120 --> 03:12:52,800
Speaker 1: you don't come on.

3865
03:12:54,879 --> 03:12:57,400
Speaker 4: Then he apologize for my part because he's just man.

3866
03:12:57,560 --> 03:12:59,280
Speaker 4: He's asked me to be on the show, you know

3867
03:12:59,320 --> 03:13:01,960
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And by the way, you and you've

3868
03:13:02,000 --> 03:13:04,080
Speaker 4: been on my show, so answer has always been yes.

3869
03:13:04,360 --> 03:13:08,720
Speaker 1: But you know, it's like, let me apologize on my behalf.

3870
03:13:08,800 --> 03:13:10,600
Speaker 4: And it took about a year to get to this point,

3871
03:13:10,680 --> 03:13:12,240
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, because I don't think you're

3872
03:13:12,240 --> 03:13:13,320
Speaker 4: ready to get on the phone at that point.

3873
03:13:13,320 --> 03:13:13,920
Speaker 1: I like, God, cool.

3874
03:13:14,000 --> 03:13:16,120
Speaker 4: You know, I congratulated you again recently and then we

3875
03:13:16,160 --> 03:13:19,000
Speaker 4: got on FaceTime and boom, we posted a picture publicly

3876
03:13:19,160 --> 03:13:20,800
Speaker 4: and yeah, that's the next time.

3877
03:13:20,879 --> 03:13:25,920
Speaker 1: Miami. God damn it, I'm gonna be here. I'm gonna

3878
03:13:25,920 --> 03:13:26,200
Speaker 1: be here.

3879
03:13:27,280 --> 03:13:30,280
Speaker 3: But honestly, you know, our show is really about giving

3880
03:13:30,280 --> 03:13:33,840
Speaker 3: people they flowers, and I'm gonna be honest. You're one

3881
03:13:33,879 --> 03:13:37,480
Speaker 3: of the like the very first people I wanted to

3882
03:13:37,560 --> 03:13:42,000
Speaker 3: give flowers because you know, I always talk about this

3883
03:13:42,959 --> 03:13:44,720
Speaker 3: when I was in hip hop, purgatory.

3884
03:13:47,200 --> 03:13:49,160
Speaker 1: Purgatory. Now people don't know what purgatory is.

3885
03:13:49,560 --> 03:13:54,520
Speaker 3: Furgatory is in between Hebert, Yeah and immag during that

3886
03:13:54,680 --> 03:14:00,400
Speaker 3: time I did blat TV repeatedly, yeah, facts, and he

3887
03:14:00,440 --> 03:14:05,199
Speaker 3: did numbers. And one of the biggest little dress this motherfucker.

3888
03:14:06,360 --> 03:14:09,760
Speaker 3: One of the biggest for me, not I don't know,

3889
03:14:10,280 --> 03:14:13,920
Speaker 3: for your platform, is when I talked about walking through

3890
03:14:13,959 --> 03:14:20,080
Speaker 3: those doors here. Oh my god, I can't open up

3891
03:14:20,160 --> 03:14:23,359
Speaker 3: my phone without somebody saying.

3892
03:14:24,080 --> 03:14:27,480
Speaker 1: Nor he might have walked through the doors Again. Do

3893
03:14:28,640 --> 03:14:34,440
Speaker 1: people ask you do you walk through those doors? Uh? Yeah?

3894
03:14:34,520 --> 03:14:37,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes like.

3895
03:14:39,640 --> 03:14:42,119
Speaker 4: People think I'm you know, like the people think I'm

3896
03:14:42,160 --> 03:14:48,200
Speaker 4: paid to do push certain agendas and like it, you know,

3897
03:14:48,480 --> 03:14:52,080
Speaker 4: like I got a booster shot recently, like a vaccine

3898
03:14:52,080 --> 03:14:54,640
Speaker 4: booster shot, you know, and I felt it was important,

3899
03:14:54,680 --> 03:14:56,680
Speaker 4: you know, because I've seen people around me get COVID

3900
03:14:56,800 --> 03:14:58,920
Speaker 4: and get really sick. All right, let me get a

3901
03:14:58,920 --> 03:15:01,320
Speaker 4: booster And I I posted kind of my redo for

3902
03:15:01,400 --> 03:15:03,400
Speaker 4: three days house feeling because you know, there's a little

3903
03:15:03,400 --> 03:15:05,840
Speaker 4: bit of soreness and stuff like that. And people think

3904
03:15:05,879 --> 03:15:09,480
Speaker 4: I'm being paid by Pfizer to do this, and doctor

3905
03:15:09,560 --> 03:15:13,520
Speaker 4: doctor Fousi yeah, or or Fauci's pay me, or Maderna

3906
03:15:13,640 --> 03:15:19,040
Speaker 4: or whatever else. I man, I'm being paid by Israel

3907
03:15:19,200 --> 03:15:22,240
Speaker 4: for my views or somehow there's someone in my pocket.

3908
03:15:23,240 --> 03:15:26,800
Speaker 4: I'm an agent of chaos, you know, you know that

3909
03:15:27,000 --> 03:15:32,400
Speaker 4: type of thing. I'm a cop, I'm a fan. Yeah, man,

3910
03:15:33,040 --> 03:15:35,800
Speaker 4: It's just it comes to the territory. Everyone is always

3911
03:15:35,840 --> 03:15:39,920
Speaker 4: It's always interesting to me when I bring on a

3912
03:15:40,000 --> 03:15:45,320
Speaker 4: new guest, one who has an opinionated one and seeing

3913
03:15:45,360 --> 03:15:48,640
Speaker 4: the hate that they get, right, because everyone has their

3914
03:15:48,680 --> 03:15:49,600
Speaker 4: own version of hate.

3915
03:15:49,840 --> 03:15:50,000
Speaker 1: You know.

3916
03:15:50,320 --> 03:15:53,040
Speaker 4: Like when I brought up you know, Jason Hollywood, I

3917
03:15:53,120 --> 03:15:54,480
Speaker 4: locked he was on my show.

3918
03:15:54,520 --> 03:15:55,760
Speaker 1: I got to see all the gay hates.

3919
03:15:56,440 --> 03:15:59,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh shit, Like there's really some really homophobic

3920
03:15:59,520 --> 03:16:03,160
Speaker 4: people here. They are willing to call them the effort

3921
03:16:03,360 --> 03:16:07,160
Speaker 4: and really hate this dude, like you know, or Dill

3922
03:16:07,240 --> 03:16:09,119
Speaker 4: hughgly has his army of haters.

3923
03:16:09,200 --> 03:16:11,240
Speaker 1: It's like I thought he would love deal Hugly like

3924
03:16:11,440 --> 03:16:11,560
Speaker 1: you know.

3925
03:16:11,720 --> 03:16:14,640
Speaker 4: But everyone has their army of haters r And it

3926
03:16:14,879 --> 03:16:17,520
Speaker 4: just comes when you have when you're affecting millions of people,

3927
03:16:17,680 --> 03:16:18,400
Speaker 4: it just comes.

3928
03:16:18,920 --> 03:16:20,040
Speaker 1: That's part of the package.

3929
03:16:20,800 --> 03:16:24,280
Speaker 4: It's the army of haters that come with your fans, right,

3930
03:16:25,080 --> 03:16:29,440
Speaker 4: you got your haters. Regardless of what people think. There's

3931
03:16:29,480 --> 03:16:32,000
Speaker 4: never been a single inner time in life that someone

3932
03:16:32,000 --> 03:16:34,480
Speaker 4: said I've recorded them without them knowing I've had my

3933
03:16:34,600 --> 03:16:36,960
Speaker 4: phone calls recording with people and put out on some

3934
03:16:37,080 --> 03:16:40,240
Speaker 4: funck shit, but I've never you know what I mean,

3935
03:16:40,360 --> 03:16:42,280
Speaker 4: Like if I record, like let's say, and it'd be like, oh,

3936
03:16:42,320 --> 03:16:44,080
Speaker 4: you know, I would be r Kelly and jail Like,

3937
03:16:44,800 --> 03:16:47,879
Speaker 4: I'll be like, I'll press the button Beef, It'll say

3938
03:16:47,920 --> 03:16:49,000
Speaker 4: this phone call be recorded.

3939
03:16:49,040 --> 03:16:51,360
Speaker 1: I'll say, Okay, so we're recording this phone call like

3940
03:16:51,400 --> 03:16:52,480
Speaker 1: a cool So.

3941
03:16:52,520 --> 03:16:54,280
Speaker 4: If anyone ever says anything to be like, all right,

3942
03:16:54,320 --> 03:16:56,560
Speaker 4: here you go like where we're recording it.

3943
03:16:56,640 --> 03:16:59,680
Speaker 1: You're wearing a mic. This is all on the up

3944
03:16:59,720 --> 03:16:59,959
Speaker 1: and up.

3945
03:17:00,160 --> 03:17:04,200
Speaker 4: You know exactly what's going to happen once the cameras

3946
03:17:04,240 --> 03:17:07,840
Speaker 4: turn on and and then that's important in this business

3947
03:17:07,920 --> 03:17:10,040
Speaker 4: not to think that you're you're sneaking people or or

3948
03:17:10,080 --> 03:17:10,600
Speaker 4: whatever else.

3949
03:17:10,640 --> 03:17:12,480
Speaker 1: You have to have a certain level of integrity.

3950
03:17:12,800 --> 03:17:16,680
Speaker 4: You know, when when Las Vegas PD, they called me

3951
03:17:16,760 --> 03:17:18,960
Speaker 4: like a dozen times asking me for the raw footage

3952
03:17:19,000 --> 03:17:19,840
Speaker 4: for that Keify interview.

3953
03:17:20,400 --> 03:17:22,359
Speaker 1: I always said no, okay, good, calm.

3954
03:17:22,200 --> 03:17:28,640
Speaker 3: Down, Okay, after the first interview or a second interview, they.

3955
03:17:28,560 --> 03:17:29,400
Speaker 1: Wanted all the footage.

3956
03:17:30,120 --> 03:17:33,800
Speaker 4: Okay, Well he got arrested after the second interview, not African. Yeah,

3957
03:17:33,800 --> 03:17:36,560
Speaker 4: well I mean like months after the secondary So.

3958
03:17:38,200 --> 03:17:39,200
Speaker 1: How does your phone ring?

3959
03:17:39,560 --> 03:17:40,400
Speaker 7: Is this say?

3960
03:17:40,600 --> 03:17:42,480
Speaker 1: Seven three? What is it? What does the Las Vegas

3961
03:17:42,600 --> 03:17:46,520
Speaker 1: ever go? It's Las Vegas seven? No, that's that's Jersey.

3962
03:17:47,360 --> 03:17:48,800
Speaker 1: Could they subpoena the footage from me?

3963
03:17:49,040 --> 03:17:53,080
Speaker 4: I don't think so. So, so they're calling it's the

3964
03:17:53,160 --> 03:18:00,480
Speaker 4: Las Vegas. They're leaving voicemails. Hey, this is so from

3965
03:18:00,560 --> 03:18:04,000
Speaker 4: Las Vegas pde. Please give me a called not saying

3966
03:18:04,040 --> 03:18:05,600
Speaker 4: what it's for. I'm like, I know what they for.

3967
03:18:05,760 --> 03:18:08,280
Speaker 3: They kind of mad at you because you solved the case,

3968
03:18:08,760 --> 03:18:08,920
Speaker 3: you know.

3969
03:18:09,800 --> 03:18:16,080
Speaker 4: Bah, So they're they're calling and then they started leaving

3970
03:18:16,959 --> 03:18:18,800
Speaker 4: the voicemail is saying what they want, which is the

3971
03:18:18,879 --> 03:18:22,360
Speaker 4: raw footage. They started sending me emails and I'm like,

3972
03:18:22,760 --> 03:18:24,280
Speaker 4: I'm not cooperating with this ship.

3973
03:18:24,400 --> 03:18:26,920
Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you. Are you obligated to give

3974
03:18:26,959 --> 03:18:28,600
Speaker 1: her in the world for you not?

3975
03:18:29,640 --> 03:18:32,119
Speaker 4: No, they could try to get a subpoena, but then

3976
03:18:32,240 --> 03:18:36,840
Speaker 4: but then it was not even a jurisdiction thing. It's

3977
03:18:37,000 --> 03:18:39,800
Speaker 4: just you have a freedom of the press situation.

3978
03:18:41,160 --> 03:18:44,840
Speaker 1: Right. There's been cases like the FEDS have tried tried

3979
03:18:44,879 --> 03:18:47,200
Speaker 1: to get my foot in the past and have failed.

3980
03:18:48,240 --> 03:18:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

3981
03:18:49,760 --> 03:18:57,280
Speaker 4: Wow, legally, legally, legally. I've talked about this, the Jimmy

3982
03:18:57,320 --> 03:19:03,840
Speaker 4: Henchman situation. Jimmy Henshmy did an interview with me and

3983
03:19:05,360 --> 03:19:08,240
Speaker 4: we talked, and you know, a lot of times I.

3984
03:19:08,280 --> 03:19:11,119
Speaker 1: Do interviews, I zone out. I'm thinking about the next question.

3985
03:19:11,200 --> 03:19:14,560
Speaker 4: I'm not carefully paying attention to every detail because I'm

3986
03:19:14,600 --> 03:19:16,560
Speaker 4: thinking about what I'm going to ask next, because it's

3987
03:19:16,560 --> 03:19:19,800
Speaker 4: all real time what's happening, especially someone over a jail phone,

3988
03:19:19,840 --> 03:19:23,640
Speaker 4: which you have a limited situation with. So we talk about,

3989
03:19:23,800 --> 03:19:26,720
Speaker 4: you know, he he briefly touches on his case. We

3990
03:19:26,879 --> 03:19:33,680
Speaker 4: talk about the Tupac allegations, whatever, whatever, whatever, and he

3991
03:19:33,800 --> 03:19:36,280
Speaker 4: explains to me how he's about to have an appeal

3992
03:19:39,120 --> 03:19:41,880
Speaker 4: appeal trial, you know, because he's what triple life or

3993
03:19:41,959 --> 03:19:45,240
Speaker 4: something like that. Next day, you know, so we put

3994
03:19:45,280 --> 03:19:47,440
Speaker 4: it out. Next day, he calls me, He's like, hey,

3995
03:19:47,480 --> 03:19:49,520
Speaker 4: my lawyer asked me to take it down.

3996
03:19:49,800 --> 03:19:51,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, a right, cool, I got you because his

3997
03:19:51,400 --> 03:19:54,320
Speaker 3: lawyer has seen the actually interview. Okay, you've seen the interview.

3998
03:19:54,480 --> 03:19:56,800
Speaker 4: He listened to it because it's audio, right, Okay, he

3999
03:19:56,879 --> 03:20:00,080
Speaker 4: says to take it down, So I take it down.

4000
03:20:02,840 --> 03:20:06,360
Speaker 1: So it's over or so I think, oh shit.

4001
03:20:07,240 --> 03:20:11,000
Speaker 4: So then like six months later something, I get a

4002
03:20:11,080 --> 03:20:12,920
Speaker 4: call from the Justice Department and was like, Yo, we

4003
03:20:12,959 --> 03:20:16,199
Speaker 4: need this footage, right, Nah, you can't have this footage.

4004
03:20:17,440 --> 03:20:22,480
Speaker 1: Well, you'd already put it out, so we have the

4005
03:20:22,560 --> 03:20:23,080
Speaker 1: right to have it.

4006
03:20:23,320 --> 03:20:26,039
Speaker 4: Like, well, I'm not giving it to you. Well we're

4007
03:20:26,080 --> 03:20:28,280
Speaker 4: gonna put you on the stand. Well then not to

4008
03:20:28,280 --> 03:20:31,120
Speaker 4: speak to my lawyer. Then then this conversation is now,

4009
03:20:31,400 --> 03:20:33,840
Speaker 4: if you pulled it off, I didn't have no evidence

4010
03:20:33,920 --> 03:20:41,200
Speaker 4: of that footage. Well, when it comes to evidence, you

4011
03:20:41,360 --> 03:20:43,000
Speaker 4: kind of have to get the originals right. You have

4012
03:20:43,080 --> 03:20:45,200
Speaker 4: to get it from the story right, because you could

4013
03:20:45,240 --> 03:20:47,680
Speaker 4: tamper shit. You can play partial, you know what I mean,

4014
03:20:47,760 --> 03:20:51,480
Speaker 4: Like you have to have she could be editor, she

4015
03:20:51,560 --> 03:20:53,400
Speaker 4: could be cut. You could play a small part of

4016
03:20:53,480 --> 03:20:56,440
Speaker 4: something and make it look a certain type of way.

4017
03:20:57,120 --> 03:21:00,520
Speaker 4: But you have to submit the whole thing is evidence,

4018
03:21:00,600 --> 03:21:02,400
Speaker 4: so when it gets played to the jury, they can

4019
03:21:02,480 --> 03:21:06,760
Speaker 4: hear the whole thing. You know, but didn't didn't.

4020
03:21:06,760 --> 03:21:08,959
Speaker 2: The Twitter files exposed that the Feds had to deal

4021
03:21:09,040 --> 03:21:11,879
Speaker 2: with Facebook to get access to I.

4022
03:21:11,879 --> 03:21:13,840
Speaker 1: Don't know about all that. All I can speak about

4023
03:21:13,959 --> 03:21:15,920
Speaker 1: is what I know. That's this is what I know.

4024
03:21:16,120 --> 03:21:16,640
Speaker 1: This is what I know.

4025
03:21:16,800 --> 03:21:19,080
Speaker 4: This is my story, So there's the only thing I

4026
03:21:19,400 --> 03:21:25,640
Speaker 4: can really tell. So I lawyered up and then they're like, well,

4027
03:21:25,680 --> 03:21:28,760
Speaker 4: we're gonna we're gonna subpoenat him. I was like, well, no,

4028
03:21:29,000 --> 03:21:30,760
Speaker 4: because this is whatever what he put it up.

4029
03:21:30,760 --> 03:21:31,280
Speaker 1: Blah blah.

4030
03:21:31,400 --> 03:21:33,440
Speaker 4: We found out that there was a copy floating around

4031
03:21:33,520 --> 03:21:35,840
Speaker 4: on Instagram, like a small copy, like a small low

4032
03:21:35,959 --> 03:21:39,440
Speaker 4: quality copy floating around on Instagram that they had that

4033
03:21:39,520 --> 03:21:42,720
Speaker 4: they're trying to but they're trying to get the original ship,

4034
03:21:43,400 --> 03:21:46,640
Speaker 4: and ultimately they weren't able to get it. They wouldn't

4035
03:21:46,680 --> 03:21:50,279
Speaker 4: get the who's the head of the of the government,

4036
03:21:52,400 --> 03:21:55,760
Speaker 4: the head district attorney in the federal government has to

4037
03:21:55,840 --> 03:22:00,440
Speaker 4: sign off on ship like this, and he won't sign

4038
03:22:00,480 --> 03:22:05,960
Speaker 4: off on it. So I spent like, tend attorney, no, no,

4039
03:22:06,120 --> 03:22:09,440
Speaker 4: but it's a federal federal the chief attorney whatever whatever

4040
03:22:09,520 --> 03:22:12,000
Speaker 4: his name was, Mitchell I think was at the time.

4041
03:22:12,480 --> 03:22:14,160
Speaker 1: And this was a very important.

4042
03:22:13,800 --> 03:22:17,360
Speaker 4: Situation because this would have said a legal precedent of

4043
03:22:17,480 --> 03:22:21,120
Speaker 4: how things are moving forward, because then it's like if

4044
03:22:21,160 --> 03:22:23,120
Speaker 4: people push it up and take it down, they can legally,

4045
03:22:23,520 --> 03:22:25,440
Speaker 4: oh well look at this glat TV case. Now we

4046
03:22:25,520 --> 03:22:27,520
Speaker 4: can whatever you ever put up you in for one second,

4047
03:22:27,600 --> 03:22:29,800
Speaker 4: we can seize it, right because if you keep it

4048
03:22:29,840 --> 03:22:31,720
Speaker 4: to yourself, you're allowed to protect your sources as a

4049
03:22:31,800 --> 03:22:32,360
Speaker 4: media outlet.

4050
03:22:32,520 --> 03:22:33,600
Speaker 1: This is this is very important.

4051
03:22:33,640 --> 03:22:37,680
Speaker 4: This is some of the what American society is built

4052
03:22:37,760 --> 03:22:39,400
Speaker 4: on in terms of freedom of the press. You know,

4053
03:22:39,480 --> 03:22:42,520
Speaker 4: you've been at places like Dubai. You can't say fuck

4054
03:22:42,560 --> 03:22:45,240
Speaker 4: the government Dubai. They will lock you the fuck up

4055
03:22:45,320 --> 03:22:49,400
Speaker 4: for five years on your Instagram. No seriously, yeah, yeah,

4056
03:22:50,760 --> 03:22:53,360
Speaker 4: you will get five years. I'm putting this number out there,

4057
03:22:53,400 --> 03:22:54,920
Speaker 4: but I'm sure it's somewhere near there.

4058
03:22:55,400 --> 03:23:00,240
Speaker 1: It might be ten years. My friend he got to

4059
03:23:00,360 --> 03:23:05,760
Speaker 1: life for what cocaine? Right? Well, but I didn't want

4060
03:23:05,760 --> 03:23:08,200
Speaker 1: to go there. Yeah, but what's his name? Fredo?

4061
03:23:08,400 --> 03:23:11,600
Speaker 4: The UK rappers got five years from marijuana even though

4062
03:23:11,640 --> 03:23:14,160
Speaker 4: he had a marijuana card in the UK or whatever else.

4063
03:23:14,360 --> 03:23:16,280
Speaker 4: Dubai said, we don't give a fuck about that marijuana.

4064
03:23:16,320 --> 03:23:19,120
Speaker 1: Car. No marijuana here, that's right. You can't get a

4065
03:23:19,160 --> 03:23:21,520
Speaker 1: car for that ship here. Five years. Let's take a shop.

4066
03:23:21,680 --> 03:23:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I'm saying. So so damn one

4067
03:23:24,840 --> 03:23:34,360
Speaker 1: more shot is way more bigger than him. Yeah now now.

4068
03:23:36,560 --> 03:23:41,520
Speaker 4: Yeah man, so so ultimately they weren't able, they didn't

4069
03:23:41,560 --> 03:23:44,720
Speaker 4: get to sign off on the footage. Jimmy goes to

4070
03:23:44,800 --> 03:23:47,480
Speaker 4: court and he loses his appeal, and he didn't know

4071
03:23:47,600 --> 03:23:48,280
Speaker 4: about what.

4072
03:23:48,440 --> 03:23:50,040
Speaker 1: I did until years later.

4073
03:23:50,200 --> 03:23:52,320
Speaker 4: Now, Now, do me and Jimmy have a relationship, No,

4074
03:23:52,480 --> 03:23:56,640
Speaker 4: not really, but but you know, do me and keef

4075
03:23:56,680 --> 03:23:59,320
Speaker 4: you have a relationship somewhat but not not really. But

4076
03:23:59,400 --> 03:24:02,080
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna always try to protect if you come

4077
03:24:02,160 --> 03:24:04,320
Speaker 4: on my show, if you call my show, I would

4078
03:24:04,360 --> 03:24:06,440
Speaker 4: try to legally protect you to the best of my ability.

4079
03:24:07,160 --> 03:24:10,000
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Keefy interviews out. I can't

4080
03:24:10,040 --> 03:24:12,080
Speaker 4: do nothing about that shit. Me taking down is not

4081
03:24:12,200 --> 03:24:14,880
Speaker 4: going to change nothing, you know what I mean. That's

4082
03:24:14,879 --> 03:24:17,760
Speaker 4: already out there. But if there's any if there's anything

4083
03:24:17,840 --> 03:24:19,800
Speaker 4: on my raw footage, which I don't think so, but

4084
03:24:19,920 --> 03:24:23,600
Speaker 4: let's just say there is, I'm not cooperating at any point.

4085
03:24:23,720 --> 03:24:27,760
Speaker 3: When Keevy used the interview on Kiev, he was like.

4086
03:24:27,959 --> 03:24:28,600
Speaker 1: Damn, I just.

4087
03:24:31,240 --> 03:24:34,160
Speaker 4: Well, oh, I just it wasn't really that. It was like,

4088
03:24:36,120 --> 03:24:39,200
Speaker 4: once you put that book out there, it just is

4089
03:24:39,320 --> 03:24:41,000
Speaker 4: what it is at this point. But the book I

4090
03:24:41,160 --> 03:24:43,400
Speaker 4: wasn't I wasn't trying to put Keefy in prison. I

4091
03:24:43,560 --> 03:24:46,400
Speaker 4: wasn't trying to help Las Vegas PD Soliway case. I

4092
03:24:46,600 --> 03:24:49,080
Speaker 4: was trying to tell the story because I remember hearing

4093
03:24:49,640 --> 03:24:54,280
Speaker 4: about Orlando Anderson around two thousand and seven. You know,

4094
03:24:54,560 --> 03:24:56,280
Speaker 4: one of the one of the one of my friends

4095
03:24:56,280 --> 03:24:58,360
Speaker 4: who happened to be a crip in LA said, yeah,

4096
03:24:58,440 --> 03:25:00,440
Speaker 4: Orlando Anderson was the shooter and we know him. And

4097
03:25:02,240 --> 03:25:05,440
Speaker 4: then I've always you know, Tupac is if not my

4098
03:25:05,560 --> 03:25:08,600
Speaker 4: favorite rapper, No, it's my favorite rapper. Let me just

4099
03:25:08,640 --> 03:25:13,280
Speaker 4: not even yeah, Tupac is. Tupac is my favorite rapper.

4100
03:25:13,320 --> 03:25:14,960
Speaker 4: And I wanted to put the real story out there.

4101
03:25:15,040 --> 03:25:19,680
Speaker 4: Tupac did not. It's not living in Cuba. Uh, you know,

4102
03:25:19,879 --> 03:25:22,760
Speaker 4: he didn't. He's not you know this rapper that kind

4103
03:25:22,800 --> 03:25:25,400
Speaker 4: of looks like him. He's not in India somewhere. You know,

4104
03:25:25,680 --> 03:25:28,320
Speaker 4: he's not on Mars like he passed away. And it

4105
03:25:28,440 --> 03:25:32,400
Speaker 4: was very sad, tragic, and the most obvious thing is

4106
03:25:32,480 --> 03:25:35,560
Speaker 4: what actually happened, go and beat up someone who killed

4107
03:25:35,600 --> 03:25:39,480
Speaker 4: two people. Recently, I just interviewed Robert Ladd Compton Pedee

4108
03:25:39,520 --> 03:25:43,400
Speaker 4: Gang Unit, who was trying to you know, had tried

4109
03:25:43,440 --> 03:25:47,680
Speaker 4: to indict Orlando Anderson on two different murders. Two people died,

4110
03:25:47,720 --> 03:25:49,840
Speaker 4: and Orlando was right there in the mix on both

4111
03:25:49,879 --> 03:25:52,760
Speaker 4: of those murders. This guy was willing to pull out

4112
03:25:52,760 --> 03:25:58,960
Speaker 4: a gun to shoot you. That's what he did. I

4113
03:25:59,040 --> 03:26:03,440
Speaker 4: don't care if you no matter how much I talked

4114
03:26:03,480 --> 03:26:05,800
Speaker 4: to the mob. James of the world, James is of

4115
03:26:05,840 --> 03:26:10,080
Speaker 4: the world, and all the dudes who loved Tupac, who

4116
03:26:10,160 --> 03:26:14,080
Speaker 4: hate Orlando, And nobody said Orlando was a punk, or

4117
03:26:14,160 --> 03:26:17,120
Speaker 4: he was a fake gangster, or he wasn't about that ship.

4118
03:26:17,959 --> 03:26:20,440
Speaker 4: Orlando was a hitter. That's the fuck he did. He

4119
03:26:20,560 --> 03:26:24,560
Speaker 4: shot people, He killed people, and that's how he died

4120
03:26:24,720 --> 03:26:27,440
Speaker 4: in the middle of a fucking shootout and at a

4121
03:26:27,480 --> 03:26:30,280
Speaker 4: gas station over a drug deal, you know, over someone

4122
03:26:30,360 --> 03:26:33,800
Speaker 4: owning him some money, and and and this is what happened.

4123
03:26:34,040 --> 03:26:38,240
Speaker 4: Tupac went and stomped out somebody who was extremely dangerous.

4124
03:26:39,080 --> 03:26:40,840
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's what you believe.

4125
03:26:41,240 --> 03:26:47,640
Speaker 3: Tupac's demise is one hundred percent. Was you solved tupac murder.

4126
03:26:48,320 --> 03:26:53,480
Speaker 3: So now you're gonna say the Tupac how it happened,

4127
03:26:54,080 --> 03:26:56,920
Speaker 3: you're saying that one million percent. He should not have

4128
03:26:57,480 --> 03:27:04,160
Speaker 3: touched Orlando. Absolutely not, Okay, absolutely not. If if so, so,

4129
03:27:04,280 --> 03:27:07,760
Speaker 3: what's the story that you know leading up to him

4130
03:27:08,200 --> 03:27:11,320
Speaker 3: even approaching to Orlando that you.

4131
03:27:11,480 --> 03:27:15,880
Speaker 1: Know it was a chain snatch, not the mall.

4132
03:27:16,040 --> 03:27:23,840
Speaker 4: At the mall, yeah with that, I'm drawing a blank

4133
03:27:23,920 --> 03:27:25,119
Speaker 4: right out of smoking and drinking.

4134
03:27:27,040 --> 03:27:32,400
Speaker 1: The fun was his name? Uh? I took himself real quick,

4135
03:27:32,480 --> 03:27:35,200
Speaker 1: just because because I believe. And my phone's dead because

4136
03:27:35,200 --> 03:27:35,879
Speaker 1: someone look it up.

4137
03:27:37,160 --> 03:27:42,760
Speaker 4: The lake Lakewood Mall. It was lake Wood Mall fight

4138
03:27:43,920 --> 03:27:49,640
Speaker 4: death Row chain, lake Wood Mall death row Chain. There

4139
03:27:49,680 --> 03:27:52,200
Speaker 4: was a guy who got jumped for his death row chain.

4140
03:27:53,440 --> 03:27:56,880
Speaker 4: He was the one that told pot that Orlando is

4141
03:27:56,879 --> 03:27:58,760
Speaker 4: one of the that's where Vegas is.

4142
03:27:59,640 --> 03:28:08,600
Speaker 1: Travell Lane Boa. Okay, So so during the whole.

4143
03:28:10,240 --> 03:28:16,920
Speaker 4: You know bad Boy death Row Beef, A bunch of

4144
03:28:17,000 --> 03:28:20,920
Speaker 4: South Side guys who were somewhat affiliated with bad Boy

4145
03:28:21,160 --> 03:28:23,280
Speaker 4: saw Trayvon Lane at the mall wearing a death row

4146
03:28:23,400 --> 03:28:25,640
Speaker 4: chain and try to They jumped him and try to

4147
03:28:25,640 --> 03:28:26,119
Speaker 4: take his chain.

4148
03:28:26,160 --> 03:28:29,160
Speaker 1: Whether they took the chain or not, it doesn't matter. Okay,

4149
03:28:29,560 --> 03:28:31,320
Speaker 1: So we're saying these up.

4150
03:28:32,760 --> 03:28:37,240
Speaker 4: Crips, crips, south Side crypts. A bunch of south Side

4151
03:28:37,280 --> 03:28:42,640
Speaker 4: crypts jump on Trayvon Lane, who's a mob Piru who's

4152
03:28:42,680 --> 03:28:44,600
Speaker 4: down with death row as part of the death This

4153
03:28:44,760 --> 03:28:46,280
Speaker 4: is the one man of sin.

4154
03:28:46,760 --> 03:28:47,560
Speaker 1: This is what happens.

4155
03:28:48,760 --> 03:28:52,320
Speaker 4: I know, Trayvon, we'll eventually do an interview. Me and

4156
03:28:52,440 --> 03:28:54,720
Speaker 4: him have been talking for like five years. You know,

4157
03:28:54,840 --> 03:28:58,600
Speaker 4: eventually he'll he'll do it. Probably he got you know,

4158
03:28:58,760 --> 03:29:00,680
Speaker 4: he claimed the chain was a snag. It doesn't matter.

4159
03:29:00,760 --> 03:29:03,000
Speaker 4: He got jumped. A bunch of dudes try to jump

4160
03:29:03,040 --> 03:29:07,360
Speaker 4: on him and take his death throat chain. So after

4161
03:29:07,440 --> 03:29:14,920
Speaker 4: the like Tyson fight, Trayvon, Tupac, sug Buntry, rest in Peace,

4162
03:29:15,440 --> 03:29:18,960
Speaker 4: and some other bloods like neckbone and so forth are

4163
03:29:19,040 --> 03:29:23,440
Speaker 4: all in the MGM lobby and Trayvon looks over and says,

4164
03:29:23,720 --> 03:29:26,560
Speaker 4: that's one of the dudes that jump me, and Tupac

4165
03:29:26,720 --> 03:29:30,240
Speaker 4: instantly makes a bee line by himself to him.

4166
03:29:30,400 --> 03:29:34,920
Speaker 1: That's why you see him walking by himself. Punches Yeah, yeah,

4167
03:29:35,400 --> 03:29:38,160
Speaker 1: makes a bee line right to Orlando. Punch line. I

4168
03:29:38,160 --> 03:29:40,160
Speaker 1: don't know what that means. He walked straight at him

4169
03:29:40,800 --> 03:29:45,640
Speaker 1: by himself, even though he got a group of big

4170
03:29:45,760 --> 03:29:50,640
Speaker 1: monsters with him. He beat. He ran straight it at Trayvon.

4171
03:29:51,600 --> 03:29:53,039
Speaker 1: He went straight. He's sorry.

4172
03:29:53,520 --> 03:29:57,720
Speaker 4: Tupac went straight at Orlando Anderson punched him, and then

4173
03:29:57,800 --> 03:29:59,840
Speaker 4: everyone else followed him, and then they started to kick him.

4174
03:29:59,840 --> 03:30:02,080
Speaker 4: All goes down and this footage is publicly related. So

4175
03:30:02,320 --> 03:30:05,600
Speaker 4: we all we've all seen this million times and then

4176
03:30:05,760 --> 03:30:08,000
Speaker 4: and then started the retaliation process.

4177
03:30:08,600 --> 03:30:12,720
Speaker 1: Right, so you see this foot this you notice for this,

4178
03:30:13,240 --> 03:30:18,560
Speaker 1: we all noticed footage. Yeah, what the fuck makes you say? Keep?

4179
03:30:21,120 --> 03:30:21,400
Speaker 1: Don't know?

4180
03:30:21,480 --> 03:30:26,120
Speaker 3: We covered that earlier? The fuck makes you say, I

4181
03:30:26,240 --> 03:30:30,040
Speaker 3: want to revisit this. He's the only living person in

4182
03:30:30,080 --> 03:30:30,320
Speaker 3: the car.

4183
03:30:31,440 --> 03:30:35,520
Speaker 4: After you read the book, yeah, well, after the audio,

4184
03:30:35,600 --> 03:30:38,560
Speaker 4: the Greg cating audio footage comes out, he's talking about police.

4185
03:30:38,600 --> 03:30:40,320
Speaker 1: The other three people are dead, no care.

4186
03:30:41,040 --> 03:30:44,240
Speaker 4: Orlando gets killed in the parking lot triple triple murder

4187
03:30:44,320 --> 03:30:51,520
Speaker 4: shootout Big Drei the Fat Dude house health complications and

4188
03:30:51,680 --> 03:30:53,720
Speaker 4: just dies and being in bad health.

4189
03:30:54,160 --> 03:30:55,160
Speaker 1: There's one of the guys.

4190
03:30:55,440 --> 03:30:58,959
Speaker 4: He gets killed in a random shootout in Chief Keep

4191
03:30:59,000 --> 03:31:01,280
Speaker 4: Sweet shot in La Did you say what?

4192
03:31:01,520 --> 03:31:02,160
Speaker 1: Chief Keef? What?

4193
03:31:02,600 --> 03:31:07,800
Speaker 4: Chief Keef had a dispensary in La Chicago? Chief Keep

4194
03:31:07,800 --> 03:31:09,920
Speaker 4: from Chicago? Who's living in La Chief? He doesn't go

4195
03:31:09,920 --> 03:31:12,840
Speaker 4: to Chicago anymore. If you notice, he's he left Chicago

4196
03:31:12,920 --> 03:31:16,000
Speaker 4: and never came back. He's been living in calabasas in

4197
03:31:16,120 --> 03:31:19,320
Speaker 4: the La Harrea ever since. So he starts a dispensary.

4198
03:31:19,360 --> 03:31:21,240
Speaker 4: Now he's working there at the counter. It just happens

4199
03:31:21,280 --> 03:31:24,960
Speaker 4: to be a dispensary that he partially owns or owns

4200
03:31:25,000 --> 03:31:27,480
Speaker 4: completely or the licenses like this, who the fuck knows,

4201
03:31:27,760 --> 03:31:32,520
Speaker 4: But it's a dispensary associated with Chief Keef. A shootout happens,

4202
03:31:32,560 --> 03:31:37,520
Speaker 4: and then the third person dies. Nothing to do with

4203
03:31:37,640 --> 03:31:40,640
Speaker 4: Tupac or Orlando or anything of that, just a random,

4204
03:31:40,920 --> 03:31:45,560
Speaker 4: a random, wrong place, wrong time situation. So Keith he

4205
03:31:45,680 --> 03:31:48,680
Speaker 4: is the last person that's actually a lie that could

4206
03:31:48,720 --> 03:31:50,959
Speaker 4: tell the story from a first person.

4207
03:31:50,840 --> 03:31:57,560
Speaker 1: Point of view. That's kid, Hello, oh yeah, yeah, doing

4208
03:31:57,560 --> 03:31:59,480
Speaker 1: an interview. That is fantastic. I'll see you laving.

4209
03:32:04,720 --> 03:32:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

4210
03:32:05,360 --> 03:32:10,040
Speaker 1: Continue. So, so this is the only person. But you

4211
03:32:10,240 --> 03:32:14,160
Speaker 1: knew that this, You knew that Keithy Devers. This is it.

4212
03:32:15,520 --> 03:32:15,800
Speaker 1: This is it.

4213
03:32:17,040 --> 03:32:21,800
Speaker 4: There's really no disputing this part. This is Uncle Orlando's gone.

4214
03:32:22,040 --> 03:32:29,120
Speaker 4: Orlando's gone. He has an audio of consult. He is

4215
03:32:29,200 --> 03:32:36,360
Speaker 4: the actual uncle of Orlando. He wrote, he wrote a book.

4216
03:32:36,600 --> 03:32:39,880
Speaker 4: It ties it all together, like you would be very

4217
03:32:39,959 --> 03:32:41,920
Speaker 4: hard pressed to try to say, but I.

4218
03:32:41,959 --> 03:32:46,400
Speaker 3: Got advocate because they the book was out, and they

4219
03:32:46,400 --> 03:32:49,920
Speaker 3: didn't give them a fucker made you say I want

4220
03:32:50,000 --> 03:32:51,240
Speaker 3: to interview.

4221
03:32:50,879 --> 03:32:56,520
Speaker 1: You again, I mean the second interview, second interviewactly.

4222
03:32:56,040 --> 03:32:57,800
Speaker 4: Well, at that point he had done a bunch of interviews,

4223
03:32:59,120 --> 03:33:04,840
Speaker 4: and so it's like it wasn't black, right, but at

4224
03:33:04,879 --> 03:33:06,200
Speaker 4: that point it was just sort of a fill in

4225
03:33:06,240 --> 03:33:09,960
Speaker 4: the blank situation. Everything had essentially been discussed. Like I said,

4226
03:33:10,000 --> 03:33:12,199
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone really cares about the second interview.

4227
03:33:12,400 --> 03:33:15,680
Speaker 1: It's just really about the first interview, you know.

4228
03:33:15,840 --> 03:33:17,360
Speaker 4: But it was like, all right, well, this dude's still

4229
03:33:17,400 --> 03:33:21,560
Speaker 4: doing interviews, you know, and and and you know, people

4230
03:33:21,600 --> 03:33:24,640
Speaker 4: have commented on you know, Boosey's commented on him, Mike

4231
03:33:24,720 --> 03:33:27,160
Speaker 4: Tyson's commented on him, like you know what I mean, Well,

4232
03:33:27,360 --> 03:33:29,280
Speaker 4: let's see what he got to say, Like he let

4233
03:33:29,400 --> 03:33:32,920
Speaker 4: his nuts hang, Like all right, let's let's have a

4234
03:33:33,000 --> 03:33:33,880
Speaker 4: conversation about it.

4235
03:33:36,560 --> 03:33:40,240
Speaker 1: I didn't think that law enforcement cared it'd been because

4236
03:33:40,560 --> 03:33:43,960
Speaker 1: between my first interview and the arrest, it was four years.

4237
03:33:45,600 --> 03:33:50,119
Speaker 3: Okay, So let me ask you where was you at

4238
03:33:51,320 --> 03:33:56,400
Speaker 3: when you they said the arrested kept and did you

4239
03:33:56,480 --> 03:34:00,640
Speaker 3: feel It's two far questions, One where you was at?

4240
03:34:01,200 --> 03:34:03,119
Speaker 3: And then two did you feel.

4241
03:34:05,600 --> 03:34:11,120
Speaker 4: Like, oh Molly, no, okay, nah, I didn't even like,

4242
03:34:14,040 --> 03:34:16,080
Speaker 4: now you gotta understand, like he got arrested. I'm like,

4243
03:34:19,680 --> 03:34:23,039
Speaker 4: I didn't really think much of it. I almost saw like, okay, well,

4244
03:34:23,360 --> 03:34:26,560
Speaker 4: this is just a horse and pony show. They're gonna

4245
03:34:26,600 --> 03:34:31,440
Speaker 4: get him to sign a plea deal and hear him

4246
03:34:31,440 --> 03:34:33,000
Speaker 4: a time served and they can say that, you know,

4247
03:34:33,120 --> 03:34:34,760
Speaker 4: say that he was part of it. They saw the

4248
03:34:34,879 --> 03:34:37,160
Speaker 4: case he's gonna go on, and he's an old man,

4249
03:34:37,240 --> 03:34:40,280
Speaker 4: he's sixty two years old. They just want to close

4250
03:34:40,320 --> 03:34:42,440
Speaker 4: the case on the books and call it a day.

4251
03:34:42,800 --> 03:34:48,040
Speaker 4: And it didn't because because the point wasn't for him

4252
03:34:48,080 --> 03:34:48,840
Speaker 4: to be arrested.

4253
03:34:48,920 --> 03:34:50,640
Speaker 1: That guy. It wasn't my point too.

4254
03:34:51,920 --> 03:34:55,280
Speaker 4: I didn't talk to Las Vegas PD or LAPD like

4255
03:34:55,680 --> 03:34:57,400
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I'm still not talking to them,

4256
03:34:57,480 --> 03:34:58,600
Speaker 4: so I wouldn't be talking to them then.

4257
03:34:59,200 --> 03:35:03,039
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize how big it is until like.

4258
03:35:04,720 --> 03:35:06,840
Speaker 4: People like Pierce Morgan Star reaching out to me and

4259
03:35:06,920 --> 03:35:09,200
Speaker 4: wanted me to do interviews on the airplane. He's like

4260
03:35:09,240 --> 03:35:14,520
Speaker 4: the biggest interviewer like Europe, you know, and like and

4261
03:35:14,600 --> 03:35:17,120
Speaker 4: then like NBC News and like, you know, it was

4262
03:35:17,200 --> 03:35:18,880
Speaker 4: just like all these people wanted to speak to me

4263
03:35:18,920 --> 03:35:22,760
Speaker 4: about that when I started understanding the gravity of what

4264
03:35:23,000 --> 03:35:27,920
Speaker 4: was happening. But it's just one of those I mean,

4265
03:35:27,959 --> 03:35:34,200
Speaker 4: I interviewed TUPACX rape accuser Ayana Jackson, and you know,

4266
03:35:34,360 --> 03:35:36,440
Speaker 4: she that was the first time she's ever been on video.

4267
03:35:37,240 --> 03:35:39,959
Speaker 1: So you know, it's not like I'm just gonna I'm

4268
03:35:40,000 --> 03:35:41,440
Speaker 1: a Tupac super fan and I'm.

4269
03:35:41,280 --> 03:35:45,120
Speaker 4: Just gonna advocate, advocate, advocate, you know, and bury everything else.

4270
03:35:45,400 --> 03:35:48,840
Speaker 1: Like nah, Like he was like all of us.

4271
03:35:48,959 --> 03:35:52,920
Speaker 4: Man, he had his shining moments, and he had his embarrassments,

4272
03:35:53,400 --> 03:35:55,640
Speaker 4: you know, and he had his wrong decisions. He was

4273
03:35:57,040 --> 03:35:58,640
Speaker 4: I'm a dumb shit have we done in twenty three?

4274
03:36:00,080 --> 03:36:02,480
Speaker 4: You know that the world didn't get to see, you

4275
03:36:02,560 --> 03:36:07,480
Speaker 4: know how many bad decisions you know when it when

4276
03:36:07,520 --> 03:36:12,720
Speaker 4: it came to women, and we made that that you know,

4277
03:36:12,920 --> 03:36:17,600
Speaker 4: ultimately just wasn't being a big deal that could have been.

4278
03:36:18,200 --> 03:36:21,359
Speaker 4: You know, like like Darryl Strawberry he told me yesterday,

4279
03:36:21,440 --> 03:36:25,680
Speaker 4: he said, you could pick your sins, but you can't

4280
03:36:25,760 --> 03:36:26,840
Speaker 4: pick your consequences.

4281
03:36:29,360 --> 03:36:29,920
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

4282
03:36:30,879 --> 03:36:32,480
Speaker 4: You could choose to do what you want to do.

4283
03:36:34,200 --> 03:36:36,000
Speaker 4: You you could do all the fucked up. You could

4284
03:36:36,040 --> 03:36:38,680
Speaker 4: do the drugs, and you could do the crimes, and

4285
03:36:38,800 --> 03:36:41,960
Speaker 4: you could do the lies and the stealing. You you

4286
03:36:42,200 --> 03:36:44,879
Speaker 4: choose what you do, but you don't know what's going

4287
03:36:44,959 --> 03:36:47,240
Speaker 4: to happen after you do them. That that's not up

4288
03:36:47,320 --> 03:36:50,200
Speaker 4: to you anymore. It's not your choice. That would be

4289
03:36:50,360 --> 03:36:54,080
Speaker 4: up to other people to decide how they're going to

4290
03:36:54,120 --> 03:36:56,879
Speaker 4: deal with with with what you've done.

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03:36:58,080 --> 03:37:02,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And that's the Uh, that's

4292
03:37:02,200 --> 03:37:04,920
Speaker 1: the reality of it, man, that's the reality.

4293
03:37:05,280 --> 03:37:11,800
Speaker 2: And so what do you think the the next iteration

4294
03:37:12,240 --> 03:37:15,560
Speaker 2: or is there for you moving like ten years ahead

4295
03:37:15,600 --> 03:37:20,880
Speaker 2: of now, Like do you see yourself changing formats?

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03:37:21,000 --> 03:37:27,000
Speaker 1: Changing side? It's already changing. Like the biggest, the biggest

4297
03:37:27,120 --> 03:37:31,040
Speaker 1: clip of last year was the Boosey House tour, right,

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03:37:31,920 --> 03:37:32,680
Speaker 1: did you see that at all?

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Speaker 3: No?

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03:37:33,840 --> 03:37:35,879
Speaker 1: It was a tour of his eighty eight acre state

4301
03:37:36,760 --> 03:37:39,400
Speaker 1: like bringing back like MTV cripstyle like that. Yeah, okay,

4302
03:37:40,120 --> 03:37:41,720
Speaker 1: I did, we did? That was the that was It

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03:37:41,840 --> 03:37:43,400
Speaker 1: was three and a half million views.

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03:37:43,520 --> 03:37:47,160
Speaker 4: So just that one twenty minute piece, you know what

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03:37:47,200 --> 03:37:49,600
Speaker 4: I'm saying, not not you could add up the pieces,

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03:37:49,640 --> 03:37:51,520
Speaker 4: you guys, even more than that saying just that one

4307
03:37:51,680 --> 03:37:52,480
Speaker 4: single pieces.

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03:37:52,520 --> 03:37:55,320
Speaker 1: The biggest single piece of the year it was that.

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03:37:56,040 --> 03:37:59,720
Speaker 4: But with that came LeVar ball House Tour, it came

4310
03:38:00,080 --> 03:38:05,760
Speaker 4: j NV's car collection. You know, we just did Dion

4311
03:38:05,879 --> 03:38:07,760
Speaker 4: Dawkins House in his yacht.

4312
03:38:08,879 --> 03:38:11,360
Speaker 1: You know, so you discovered a whole new lane we did.

4313
03:38:11,760 --> 03:38:14,760
Speaker 4: I just did one of my favorite barbecue spots, you know,

4314
03:38:14,920 --> 03:38:18,680
Speaker 4: Bloodstone's Barbecue, you know where I got to go and

4315
03:38:18,800 --> 03:38:21,360
Speaker 4: actually get on camera, and you know, I'm like a

4316
03:38:21,400 --> 03:38:24,720
Speaker 4: lifetime footie, so I actually get to like and.

4317
03:38:24,800 --> 03:38:26,360
Speaker 1: It seems that you can't do no wrong in this

4318
03:38:26,520 --> 03:38:28,920
Speaker 1: lane that you're describing right now. Well, I mean, you know,

4319
03:38:30,040 --> 03:38:33,360
Speaker 1: you you could always have shit that doesn't react, you know,

4320
03:38:33,760 --> 03:38:35,720
Speaker 1: I mean in terms of people criticizing the coumtany.

4321
03:38:35,760 --> 03:38:38,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not about the criticism, man, It's not.

4322
03:38:38,400 --> 03:38:42,160
Speaker 1: It's not about I don't do it for that.

4323
03:38:43,800 --> 03:38:47,760
Speaker 4: Like I know, for example, you know, I do a

4324
03:38:47,800 --> 03:38:49,840
Speaker 4: lot of you know, I've always been a big proponent

4325
03:38:49,920 --> 03:38:53,760
Speaker 4: of of stock investing, right so when I put out clips,

4326
03:38:54,320 --> 03:38:56,120
Speaker 4: you know, I have like a lad Stock series, like

4327
03:38:56,160 --> 03:38:58,320
Speaker 4: a nine to nine or ten part series where I

4328
03:38:58,400 --> 03:39:03,480
Speaker 4: break down stock investing and I talk about different you know,

4329
03:39:03,640 --> 03:39:06,360
Speaker 4: just the different things that I've used in terms of

4330
03:39:06,600 --> 03:39:08,840
Speaker 4: what I've found to be successful and so forth, and

4331
03:39:10,040 --> 03:39:10,840
Speaker 4: all through the comments.

4332
03:39:10,959 --> 03:39:13,080
Speaker 1: Yo, man, we love you. You have more content like this,

4333
03:39:13,240 --> 03:39:13,800
Speaker 1: You're the best.

4334
03:39:14,360 --> 03:39:16,920
Speaker 4: You know. Oh yo, this is transformed Like I can

4335
03:39:17,040 --> 03:39:21,760
Speaker 4: create videos that all they have is positive comments. It's

4336
03:39:21,800 --> 03:39:25,279
Speaker 4: so easy to do. But that's not what the business

4337
03:39:25,400 --> 03:39:27,120
Speaker 4: is about. It's not about trying to give myself a

4338
03:39:27,160 --> 03:39:30,200
Speaker 4: pad on the shoulder, like fuck that, Like I know

4339
03:39:30,320 --> 03:39:32,800
Speaker 4: what it is. I you know, if a video has

4340
03:39:32,879 --> 03:39:36,000
Speaker 4: ninety percent negative comments, that's fine, as long as what

4341
03:39:36,120 --> 03:39:39,320
Speaker 4: we're doing is important. You know what I mean is

4342
03:39:39,400 --> 03:39:43,360
Speaker 4: in terms of what the strength of the content, you know,

4343
03:39:43,560 --> 03:39:46,240
Speaker 4: I mean, you think people want to hear you think

4344
03:39:46,280 --> 03:39:47,960
Speaker 4: all the Tupac fans and there's a lot of them,

4345
03:39:48,040 --> 03:39:50,119
Speaker 4: you think they want to hear about Ayanna Jackson talking

4346
03:39:50,160 --> 03:39:53,400
Speaker 4: about how you know, she came to see Tupac and

4347
03:39:53,600 --> 03:39:56,000
Speaker 4: ended up having sex with two other dudes and she

4348
03:39:56,240 --> 03:39:58,320
Speaker 4: was never with that, and you know what I mean,

4349
03:39:58,520 --> 03:40:01,119
Speaker 4: And things went very left and Tupac was like, get

4350
03:40:01,160 --> 03:40:02,880
Speaker 4: this bitch out of my face, and you know what

4351
03:40:02,920 --> 03:40:04,800
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, like, Tupac fans don't want to hear

4352
03:40:04,840 --> 03:40:07,240
Speaker 4: this ship. I know it's going to be like a

4353
03:40:07,280 --> 03:40:09,360
Speaker 4: bunch of negative ship. But this is an important story

4354
03:40:10,480 --> 03:40:14,360
Speaker 4: and that's why, like we are, we are changing. You know.

4355
03:40:14,520 --> 03:40:17,520
Speaker 4: I was saying about how the biggest clip was was

4356
03:40:17,720 --> 03:40:20,600
Speaker 4: the Boosy house tour. You know, that was the biggest

4357
03:40:20,600 --> 03:40:23,400
Speaker 4: clip of last year, you know, And we're doing house ship,

4358
03:40:23,440 --> 03:40:25,800
Speaker 4: We're doing car ship, We're doing restaurants ship.

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03:40:26,320 --> 03:40:26,440
Speaker 2: You know.

4360
03:40:26,560 --> 03:40:29,120
Speaker 4: I was actually supposed to trick out his restaurant, but

4361
03:40:29,200 --> 03:40:30,720
Speaker 4: then then he didn't. He didn't show up at the

4362
03:40:30,720 --> 03:40:32,000
Speaker 4: restaurants and where we just didn't want to do the

4363
03:40:32,040 --> 03:40:32,760
Speaker 4: restaurant without him.

4364
03:40:32,840 --> 03:40:36,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're doing with Sundays. Yeah, Sundays exactly. We

4365
03:40:36,959 --> 03:40:41,640
Speaker 1: ain't there with the Fried Ribs, you know, but I

4366
03:40:41,680 --> 03:40:44,760
Speaker 1: would love to do. I would love to be like

4367
03:40:46,120 --> 03:40:52,320
Speaker 1: the Robert Leech you know of you know autumart On

4368
03:40:54,360 --> 03:40:57,000
Speaker 1: got on Shore. You're you're your watch guy. See you

4369
03:40:57,080 --> 03:40:59,360
Speaker 1: know you got the Richard Mill. I mean I got

4370
03:40:59,400 --> 03:41:01,400
Speaker 1: a couple. You got if you are Auto Mars.

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03:41:04,400 --> 03:41:08,120
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4372
03:41:08,200 --> 03:41:11,320
Speaker 4: know watching the picture, you Bill, you build them up

4373
03:41:12,120 --> 03:41:15,199
Speaker 4: up to wear some nice Yes for drink Champs.

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