WEBVTT - Remains Found In Tampa Bay Identified As Second Missing Doctoral Student 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks. It is Friday, May first, and authorities

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida have identified the remains found earlier this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, in fact, they are the remains of a

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<v Speaker 1>second missing doctoral student been missing since the last month

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida. With that, welcome to this episode of Amy

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<v Speaker 1>and TJ. This is the story we kept an eye on.

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<v Speaker 1>We were even hopeful for Robes. Two students from Bangladesh

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<v Speaker 1>go missing. Couldn't make sense of it, had hopes that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they'd even run off together, quite frankly star crossed lovers.

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<v Speaker 1>They have now found the remains of the second student, Robes,

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<v Speaker 1>and it took them a little while to make a

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<v Speaker 1>positive identification, and we'll get into some of the details

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<v Speaker 1>of why, and they are pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>Graphic they are.

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<v Speaker 3>So we now know that the remains of twenty seven

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<v Speaker 3>year old Nihita Bristi have been confirmed to have been found.

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<v Speaker 2>She was one of two.

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<v Speaker 3>Missing University of South Florida doctoral students. They had been

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<v Speaker 3>missing since April sixteenth. They were reported missing the following day,

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<v Speaker 3>and it took some time for authorities to piece together

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<v Speaker 3>the puzzle of what potentially happened. Initially, they didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>suspect foul play, but unfortunately Samil Lemon, who was also

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seven years old, his body was found on a

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<v Speaker 3>bridge overlooking Tampa Bay and then several days later they

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<v Speaker 3>found his body exactly one week ago today on Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>On Sunday, they found the remains of another body nearby

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<v Speaker 3>in the water.

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<v Speaker 2>But it took.

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<v Speaker 3>Them five days today until they were able to positively

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<v Speaker 3>id the body of Nihita Bristi. And look, the details

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<v Speaker 3>of how they found her remains are now coming to

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<v Speaker 3>light and how they were able to eventually confirm that

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<v Speaker 3>in fact it was her.

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<v Speaker 2>They were able to.

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<v Speaker 3>Confirm through DNA and they had to actually go through

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<v Speaker 3>some dental work that she had been done to finally

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<v Speaker 3>confirm that, in fact, they did find the remains of

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<v Speaker 3>Nihita Bristi. And this is just one of these mysterious,

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly tragic stories coming out of Florida because it was

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<v Speaker 3>Lemone's roommate. They believe Hisham Abugarbea who was twenty six

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<v Speaker 3>years old, who police have now charged with two counts

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<v Speaker 3>of first degree premeditated murder with the weapon in the

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<v Speaker 3>deaths of these two doctoral students. The big glaring question

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<v Speaker 3>is the why they don't have the why, but we

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<v Speaker 3>are now able to piece together through what police and

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<v Speaker 3>detectives are giving us the how. And it is incredibly disturbing, Babe,

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<v Speaker 3>to just learn some of these details. And we are

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<v Speaker 3>hearing now that Nahita Bristi was actually found. We had

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<v Speaker 3>been talking about dive teams looking for her body, but

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<v Speaker 3>it turns out it was two fishing kayakers who found

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<v Speaker 3>her body instead, and.

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<v Speaker 2>They were.

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<v Speaker 3>Quick to call police when they actually snagged a bag

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<v Speaker 3>in the water, so they were throwing their fishing lines

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<v Speaker 3>and they ended up having to go further into a

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<v Speaker 3>mangrove area of this fishing area where they had kayaks

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<v Speaker 3>in and they actually described the smell and that is

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<v Speaker 3>when they went in closer to remove the fishing line

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<v Speaker 3>find the plastic bag. It had been slightly opened, and

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<v Speaker 3>they said they could tell immediately it looked like a

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<v Speaker 3>human body, and they did the right thing. They called

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<v Speaker 3>law enforcement and for the past several days now, law

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<v Speaker 3>enforcement have been looking for a way to try and

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<v Speaker 3>connect the remains found in this bag to that of

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<v Speaker 3>Nihita Bristi, and they were able to do so today

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<v Speaker 3>And this is just look the family had been warned,

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<v Speaker 3>but this is certainly incredibly sad information. Just to know

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<v Speaker 3>for a fact that this was in fact this missing

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<v Speaker 3>doctoral student.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was I mean, we saw it going this direction.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess nobody's a surprise. I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>hope was being held out, but but yeah, that's I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the family kind of knew this was the news

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<v Speaker 1>that was.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming, and so they have now officially contacted her family

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<v Speaker 3>to release the bodies for religious reasons. Back to the

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<v Speaker 3>families who both happened to live in Bangladesh. But we're

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<v Speaker 3>also look, we had had some of the searches that

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<v Speaker 3>police were able to uncover from the roommate Abu Garbea,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're getting some new details. And look, these are

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<v Speaker 3>we've talked so many times. We've covered a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>unfortunately these types of cases, and yes, it often is

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<v Speaker 3>the cover up, the active idea or the planning of

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<v Speaker 3>the cover up that ends up undoing the suspect in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of evidence that eventually comes out in court. But

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<v Speaker 3>we're hearing some of this now in terms of some

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<v Speaker 3>of the searches that were made before, during and after

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<v Speaker 3>when police say he murdered his room mate and his friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we see this a lot. Well, criminals will catch

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<v Speaker 1>on eventually, but don't google how do I get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of a body right after you kill somebody? It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up with.

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<v Speaker 3>You, yes, And so look, we know that Abergaebea has

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<v Speaker 3>been charged with unlawfully moving a dead body, failure to

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<v Speaker 3>report a death with intent to conceal, tampering with physical evidence,

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<v Speaker 3>false imprisonment, and battery in connection to the desk, in

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<v Speaker 3>addition to his premeditated murder charges.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>And police have described the details of this investigation as

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<v Speaker 3>nothing short of gruesome, and that is really the only

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<v Speaker 3>way to describe this because we now know that this act,

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<v Speaker 3>or at least police say this act, was carried out

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<v Speaker 3>with a sharp object, most likely a knife, And we

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<v Speaker 3>know that this was an elaborate attempt to conceal because

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<v Speaker 3>we know some of these searches that were taking place

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<v Speaker 3>while this crime was being committed, and that is really

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<v Speaker 3>that has been some of the more damning, damning evidence

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<v Speaker 3>that has come out in this case. And we now

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<v Speaker 3>know also that Leman was bound in his hands and

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<v Speaker 3>his feet. Like, just hearing some of these details, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just hard to get your head around how this all unfolded,

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<v Speaker 3>and how a twenty six year old student why he

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<v Speaker 3>would feel the need to do this to his roommate

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<v Speaker 3>and her friend and his friend.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean, we don't have a motive. But apparently

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<v Speaker 1>he had some troubles, He had some history of questionable

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<v Speaker 1>behavior and people were concerned about him, and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we'll learn more about that. But yeah, there is no

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<v Speaker 1>motive at this.

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<v Speaker 2>Point, none at all.

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<v Speaker 3>And so look, this has been a disturbing detail some

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<v Speaker 3>of the searches that we know that the roommate made

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<v Speaker 3>in addition to finding out how to dispose of a body,

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<v Speaker 3>but he also searched topics like whether a knife can

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<v Speaker 3>penetrate a skull. I don't know how any defendant gets

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<v Speaker 3>around searching that. Have you ever, Like, when you look

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<v Speaker 3>at what you have searched, why would anyone search that

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<v Speaker 3>if not for a motive.

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<v Speaker 2>In a murder.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we've seen defense lawyers explain far worse than that. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>but they'll find a way, they'll have something. Oh maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they won't. But yes, it always seems like that there's

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<v Speaker 1>no reason, there's no that makes zero sense for that

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<v Speaker 1>to for you to ever google that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and in addition to ober Gabea's cell phone having

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<v Speaker 3>searches like whether or not a knife can penetrate a skull,

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<v Speaker 3>or if a neighbor could hear a gunshot, and of

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<v Speaker 3>course how to dispose of a body, or what happens

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<v Speaker 3>to a body when you put it in a dumpster.

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<v Speaker 3>All of these very specific searches. Some of these were

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<v Speaker 3>done before days before the students disappeared, and so his

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<v Speaker 3>cell phone, by the way, had been wiped clean. That's

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<v Speaker 3>also an issue oftentimes. We've even seen searches about can

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<v Speaker 3>the FBI can police find text messages I erase?

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<v Speaker 2>What happens to a cell phone that's been white clean?

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've all learned now, at least in covering

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<v Speaker 3>these types of cases, if you search anything on your

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<v Speaker 3>computer on your phone, there is no search cleansing operation

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<v Speaker 3>that can be done that won't be retrieved or won't

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<v Speaker 3>be able to be retrieved by detectives, period, end of story.

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<v Speaker 3>How people don't know this yet is kind of beyond me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they keep doing it. We've the last several high

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<v Speaker 1>profile trials we've covered all involved something along those lines

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<v Speaker 1>where people are literally googling, how do I get away

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<v Speaker 1>with murder, and yes, that's pretty damning evidence. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't learned yet, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks like well, fortunately maybe perhaps for police and

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<v Speaker 3>for detectives, maybe they'll never learn because somehow people always

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<v Speaker 3>think they're going to get away with it. But look,

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<v Speaker 3>as investigators continue to try and find the why, and look,

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<v Speaker 3>oftentimes we don't get that answer. That is one of

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<v Speaker 3>the elusive questions so many people ask in a situation

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<v Speaker 3>like this where two incredibly brilliant lives were cut unnecessarily short.

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<v Speaker 3>Their family, his family, her family, They want to know why.

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<v Speaker 3>And there are also a lot of questions being asked

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<v Speaker 3>by the family in terms of security. Where was the

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<v Speaker 3>security some family members are asking, and they're saying, look,

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<v Speaker 3>at this point, how could somebody who had a documented

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<v Speaker 3>history of mental illness and clearly their roommate, his roommate,

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<v Speaker 3>Lemon's roommate who is being charged in this case, Abrogae Beya,

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<v Speaker 3>has absolutely had a long history of mental illness and

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<v Speaker 3>certainly run ins with police and run into with his

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<v Speaker 3>family violent history. And so it is fair that their

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<v Speaker 3>families are now asking how could this young man have

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<v Speaker 3>been allowed to be in an off campus apartment and

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<v Speaker 3>be connected with a roommate who had problems with the law,

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<v Speaker 3>whose family members didn't even want him visiting their home.

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<v Speaker 3>How was he not on anyone's radar? And how were

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<v Speaker 3>these two young lives cut short for no reason whatsoever,

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<v Speaker 3>at least nothing that police can come up with at

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<v Speaker 3>this point. So when we come back, we'll give you

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<v Speaker 3>the latest on this investigation, where the case stands against

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<v Speaker 3>this twenty six year old, and what the families of

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<v Speaker 3>these two young doctoral students want from this community now,

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<v Speaker 3>And welcome back to this episode of Amy and TJ,

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<v Speaker 3>where we now just received word from Florida officials that

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<v Speaker 3>they have in fact identified the remains that were found

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<v Speaker 3>last Sunday of the second missing doctoral student at the

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<v Speaker 3>University of South Florida. These two young, twenty seven year

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<v Speaker 3>old promising doctoral students went missing. Initially we heard from

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<v Speaker 3>the university from police that they didn't suspect foul play,

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<v Speaker 3>but unfortunately that quickly changed when conversations and frankly interrogations

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<v Speaker 3>of the roommate started to leave big questions with police.

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<v Speaker 3>And unfortunately, when another roommate said, hey, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>I saw my other roommate taking some boxes out to

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<v Speaker 3>a trash compactor right here on the property. When police

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<v Speaker 3>went to go look at that trash compactor at the

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<v Speaker 3>apartment complex where Lemon lived along with his roommate, and

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<v Speaker 3>they found his student id, his wallet, his glasses, and

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<v Speaker 3>clothing soaked in blood. That moment changed everything for investigators

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<v Speaker 3>and they knew that foul play was possible and probably likely.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, we got a word that what was the

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<v Speaker 3>change in the investigation midweek where they said, yes, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't suspect foul plays.

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<v Speaker 2>Suddenly it was endangered.

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<v Speaker 3>The two students were listed as endangered, and then just

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<v Speaker 3>days later they found the body of limon All on

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<v Speaker 3>that bridge in plastic bags. Two days later they find

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<v Speaker 3>remains in Tampa Bay, and yes, today unfortunately they have

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<v Speaker 3>officially identified those remains as Nahdah's bristies, and certainly her

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<v Speaker 3>family was expecting the worst. They were anticipating this. They

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<v Speaker 3>were told by police that enough of her blood had

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<v Speaker 3>been found in that apartment that they did not believe

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<v Speaker 3>she was alive. They've known for a long time that

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<v Speaker 3>their loved one was almost certainly dead, but still to

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<v Speaker 3>get the confirmation today is still a significant step in closure,

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<v Speaker 3>and now they're angry they want justice, and that is understandable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I don't know where we'd be right

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<v Speaker 1>now if this criminal, this alleged criminal, hadn't been such

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<v Speaker 1>an idiot. I mean he he. The reason they found

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<v Speaker 1>the boy's body is because they could trace exactly where

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<v Speaker 1>the roommate drove. They saw the car go exactly to

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<v Speaker 1>that bridge and stop and go back. So Robes, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where we'd be even if they if

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<v Speaker 1>he was. He's so awful at this and he left

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<v Speaker 1>crumbs and traces everywhere to get to this point. The

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<v Speaker 1>Robes now the family, they I don't know what role

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<v Speaker 1>the school played in off campus housing. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how all that works down there, if he had a

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<v Speaker 1>choice in it at all, if he had made complaints,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Um, I'd be curious to know. But

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<v Speaker 1>this just makes no sense right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're asking for an I think this makes total sense.

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<v Speaker 3>They were asking for an investigation into how the university

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<v Speaker 3>places students, how they're placed with roommates.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you think about this.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a daughter who you know, goes to university

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<v Speaker 3>and oftentimes you do take a lottery, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 3>as to who your roommate's going to be. You're operating

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<v Speaker 3>under the presumption and assumption that these students have been vetted.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that there's no way of knowing what someone's

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<v Speaker 3>mental health might be, or what their ulterial motives could be,

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<v Speaker 3>or what they might.

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<v Speaker 2>Do if pushed in a certain position.

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<v Speaker 3>It's impossible to know, and so I guess it does

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<v Speaker 3>beg the question what is the role of the university,

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<v Speaker 3>What is the role of anyone, maybe even his own family.

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<v Speaker 3>And his brother has said publicly now since this has

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<v Speaker 3>happened that he deeply regrets not pursuing charges. He dropped

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<v Speaker 3>charges after he saw his brother act violently and erratically

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<v Speaker 3>multiple times. He had a restraining order against him. It

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't renewed. But he looks back now and thinks, my god,

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<v Speaker 3>the warning signs for everywhere. And it's very easy to

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<v Speaker 3>Monday Morning quarterback a situation like this, but when lives

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<v Speaker 3>that are at stake, this is one of those things

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<v Speaker 3>where you know, yes, when you're a family member, you

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<v Speaker 3>might feel guilty or obligated to cover for someone, but

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<v Speaker 3>in these types of situations, you see what it can

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<v Speaker 3>lead to if you don't speak up, if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>say something if you don't call it to attention. And

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<v Speaker 3>granted they did to an extent, but maybe they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>go far enough. And unfortunately, now too young folks are

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<v Speaker 3>dead for no apparent reason. You can't even come up

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<v Speaker 3>with a reason why these two young people could have

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<v Speaker 3>upset this young man enough where he would have planned

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<v Speaker 3>and plotted their demise where he spent days making searches

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<v Speaker 3>and planning and potentially luring them to take them to

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<v Speaker 3>murder them. It's a it's an incredibly difficult situation that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have a lot of good answers, and I know

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<v Speaker 3>we want them because we want to prevent a crime

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<v Speaker 3>like this, But it's possible to know what was inside

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<v Speaker 3>this young man's head at this point, and he has

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<v Speaker 3>not spoken, he has not said what his motive was,

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<v Speaker 3>and he certainly hasn't offered any sort of defense yet.

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<v Speaker 3>But we will continue to follow the story. Obviously, the

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<v Speaker 3>legal process has to continue, but we just wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>jump on and let you know that, in fact, we

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<v Speaker 3>have been covering the story that yes, those remains that

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<v Speaker 3>were found in Tampa Bay are in fact the remains

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<v Speaker 3>of Nihita Risti, and we will continue to follow the story.

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<v Speaker 3>We appreciate you as always for listening to us I

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<v Speaker 3>ami Robach alongside TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Holmes. We will talk to you soon.