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Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Blue Kickoff Live presented by Coors Light

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Speaker 1: right here on Giants dot Com. I am John Schmilk.

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Speaker 1: Honored to be joined by the one and only David Deal.

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Speaker 1: We don't get to work with each other often. When

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Speaker 1: we do, it's a treat. Us is off with the

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Speaker 1: Jewish holiday, Ya Kapor, and I am here in place

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Speaker 1: of him. He'll be working for me on Friday, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna hear talk Giants football with you for the

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Speaker 1: next hour at two five, one three or on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at hashtag Giants Chat. And folks, I know from the

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Speaker 1: tweets I've been receiving over the past few days, what

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Speaker 1: do you guys want to talk about? So I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna bury the lead here. I'm here with a former

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman that's played every position, knows exactly what's going

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Speaker 1: on on the offensive line. So Dave give me your analysis,

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Speaker 1: just basically what went wrong with the Giants line play,

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Speaker 1: with their offense and their games Sunday night against the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Perfect timing. I'm all fired up a mountain dew ready

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Speaker 1: to go for this show. And I sitting here watching

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Speaker 1: this game and then hearing the responses, whether through text

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Speaker 1: through friends, through you know, doing all the different interviews

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Speaker 1: that I did, and you know, one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: things that you have to understand that it's gonna take

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Speaker 1: time playing together on the offensive line. Building that continuity

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Speaker 1: really takes some time to build and work together. Having

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Speaker 1: said that, one of the things with that is you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get beat physically at one point or another, but

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Speaker 1: not knowing or understanding what to do mentally, that's something

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Speaker 1: that you hold each other accountable to each and on

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Speaker 1: one another on the football field, and that's something that

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Speaker 1: you can't excuse not knowing what to do. So one

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Speaker 1: of the things that they're going to have to do

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Speaker 1: is is get back down to basics, just making sure

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Speaker 1: that whatever they do this week, whether it's the practice field,

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Speaker 1: whether it's the meeting room, whether it's breaking down film,

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Speaker 1: that there's no stone unturned because when it comes down

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Speaker 1: to it on the football field, they're all correctable things.

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Speaker 1: It's not like it was just something that were things

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Speaker 1: got blown up. These are all things that are controllable

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Speaker 1: by the players. It's just taking that next step and

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Speaker 1: holding that accountability. So I think this football team, I

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Speaker 1: think we all understand the magnitude of where they're at

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Speaker 1: right now and going into huge Euston is going to

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Speaker 1: be a tough game. But having said that, I think

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Speaker 1: if they're a focused football team this week, make sure

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Speaker 1: that they hammer out all the things that they put

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Speaker 1: on film through not only the preseason but these last

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Speaker 1: two games, and just really self evaluate themselves as a unit,

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Speaker 1: and then now as a team, you're really gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to turn things around. It's not gonna be easy.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be something that's gonna take a lot of

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Speaker 1: hard work, but it can be done. And with regards

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Speaker 1: to scheme changing up schemes, you know, well, they haven't

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Speaker 1: done anything differently. Last week I explained how they changed

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Speaker 1: it into Jacksonville game, and then this game when the

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Speaker 1: run started not working, using the passing game and short

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Speaker 1: of the running game because you know, playing two high

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Speaker 1: So when you have those opportunities, you're gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to capitalize on them when they blitz and you pick

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Speaker 1: it up because that's your moment to shine. And when

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Speaker 1: it did happen, they were unable to block it up

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Speaker 1: and get it done. And Dallas they played too deep,

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Speaker 1: especially late. There were a lot of Cover three as well,

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Speaker 1: And you're right. That first game against Jacksonville, to me,

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Speaker 1: the offensive line got physically beaten. They got beat one

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Speaker 1: said it today again, they didn't do anything that they

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Speaker 1: twists and the stunts and Dave we saw them. We

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Speaker 1: I mean that's something that we saw in the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns preseason Game one. You're gonna get movement up front.

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Speaker 1: create space, separation and penetration by those movements. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: like you, just not letting the stage get too big

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Speaker 1: that because they're not gonna rush you straight straight. There's

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Speaker 1: to you, what you need to do in your protections,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do something's somebody else. Absolutely, they're going to

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Speaker 1: they didn't communicate, because if you don't communicate the guards here,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be on different levels and there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a free rusher. How do you think you like playing

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Speaker 1: the game? You know what? Obviously there are throws that

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Speaker 1: critical of them, I believe me and I'm as Canadas

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Speaker 1: does need to play better. But when you don't have

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Speaker 1: pressure and penetration, I mean, what else? What else can

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Speaker 1: you do? And it's not like they didn't try to

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Speaker 1: Now you're playing right into what you want to do offensively.

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Speaker 1: Now it's not about that blitz because you just burned

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Speaker 1: sending the storm. Absolutely, and I think when you take

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Speaker 1: a look at it on a few plays on the tape,

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Speaker 1: we saw it. If he had another beat or two

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. On one play was running across the

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Speaker 1: big play. There was a big play where red Ellison

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Speaker 1: The scheme is working, it's making guys open and by

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Speaker 1: you're saying, Granted, I'm an offensive lineman. I never played quarterback,

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Speaker 1: He had the quickest release of the football out of

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Speaker 1: And when you don't start fast, you never take that

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Speaker 1: amazing Giants prizes throughout the season, David, Before we get

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Speaker 1: they're ready to go, no surprise. I want to look

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Speaker 1: ahead to Houston a little bit. It was Wednesday. This

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Speaker 1: not watched the Texan defense yet, however, we do know

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Speaker 1: their front is very good. I don't need to watch

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Speaker 1: tape to know that Jadeveon Clowney if he plays J. J.

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Speaker 1: Watt and Whitney. Merciless are damn good football players. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a challenge. But I don't think, at least

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Speaker 1: from what I saw, they don't run quite as many

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Speaker 1: Do you agree with that? I agree with you. And

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Speaker 1: what they try to do they play man on man,

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Speaker 1: but what they'll do is they'll stem and shift based

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Speaker 1: upon what they think the matchup is best for that players.

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Speaker 1: So you'll see Merciless on both sides, bouncing from one

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Speaker 1: And what they want to do is they want to

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Speaker 1: Then you flip over and you keep going through those situations.

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Speaker 1: But the biggest thing that you can do against these

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Speaker 1: in five steps, seven steps. You can sell and you

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Speaker 1: Elis telling you he's coming off the edge. If you

429
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Speaker 1: go hit him with blunt force, you're gonna have time

430
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Speaker 1: to be able to run him by and Eli to

431
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Speaker 1: deliver the football. And it's not a linebacker, by the way,

432
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 1: it's a it's a defensive back. Go get him. There's

433
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Speaker 1: no excuse for that. Crazy I was gonna. I was

434
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Speaker 1: just gonna ask you guys, what status for Olivia Vernon

435
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Speaker 1: and he updates there. You know what I limited today

436
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,879
Speaker 1: a press He was limited today today and no, and no,

437
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 1: Eli Apple, he was not out there. Eli wasn't out there.

438
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,960
Speaker 1: That's a shame. Eli was playing really well. Yeah, Growing,

439
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 1: thanks you. I appreciate the call man, And I'll tell

440
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 1: you what day. Have you mentioned the two wide receivers

441
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 1: and we talked about the pass rush too. Boy, if

442
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,199
Speaker 1: they could have both the guys out there on Sunday,

443
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,360
Speaker 1: it'd be a big help because you need as many

444
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,679
Speaker 1: quarters that can cover and even and Bruce Elting, by

445
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,880
Speaker 1: the way, is in a bad slot receiver either and

446
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 1: you need to rush the passer. So both of the

447
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 1: all Apple Olivia Vernon are very very important to this team.

448
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 1: And we talked about how maybe the dept in certain

449
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 1: spots this year isn't great, so you need your really

450
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 1: good players healthy. You got to get at least one

451
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Speaker 1: of those two guys back on the field on Sunday

452
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 1: for sure. Two would be nice. Absolutely. I mean you

453
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: need both of those players in this system to be

454
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Speaker 1: able to play successful and complete football on all phases

455
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 1: of this And you know, you could see the lack

456
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Speaker 1: of production in the passing game and basically any type

457
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 1: of disruption to Dak Prescott. There weren't many times where

458
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: you saw him off of the spot. And that's one

459
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 1: thing that you don't always have to get concerned with

460
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 1: the sack number. But you need to get pressure. You

461
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 1: need to make them uncomfortable. One. You need to make

462
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 1: sure that he does whatever he can to not get

463
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Speaker 1: comfortable and get his feet set. That's the biggest thing.

464
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 1: Don't let him take those five stas, stop survey for

465
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Speaker 1: two seconds and throw the ball. Make him look somewhere

466
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Speaker 1: else except down the field. Make him make a quick decision.

467
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: That's it. That's plain and simple. That's it. Five on

468
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: three David North Carolina is up next online. Four what's up, Dave? Dave?

469
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Speaker 1: And it just wanted to, uh, you know, kind of

470
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Speaker 1: get a get chall's opinion on on some things. And

471
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Speaker 1: and really, you know, the more I sit here and

472
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Speaker 1: listen at this point, I don't know what to call

473
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Speaker 1: in and and talk about anymore. I feel like Bill

474
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: Murray's Groundhog Day man the past. It's like, you know,

475
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: every year for I don't know, three or four years now, Dave.

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Speaker 1: I hear you. I hear you, Dave. Real quick. I

477
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Speaker 1: want to say something real quick. Um, I want to

478
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Speaker 1: say something real fast before you continue. It's not fair

479
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 1: to put on Pat Charmer and Dave Gentleman and the

480
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: rest of this front office. What happened the last couple

481
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Speaker 1: of years. You want to put on what's going on

482
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: this year? That's fine. It's on them. They accept responsibility,

483
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: they know that. But I understand it's very similar we

484
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: saw in past years. But the guys that are here

485
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 1: running this show now had nothing to do with that.

486
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 1: So it's unfair to say that this group, well it's

487
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: been this way for three years. Well they just got here.

488
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: They weren't responsible for the past and in ten four

489
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: and then Rome wasn't built in the day, so um,

490
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't expecting. Um. I mean, it have

491
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: been great and maybe things will turn. But I didn't

492
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: have Super Bowl aspirations, you know, it just wanted to

493
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Speaker 1: see some improvement. And it's just I don't know, it's

494
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Speaker 1: just mind boggling. And again to your point not to

495
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Speaker 1: blo ump everything together that that it can be that hard.

496
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm to build a a line that's just

497
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Speaker 1: you know, somewhat competitive. I mean, I feel like Rod

498
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Speaker 1: Miller and there uh Marinelli for the Cowboys ran the

499
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: same defense for you know, however, long he's there that

500
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: soft cover to shell lineback and laughing at you, just

501
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: daring you to run the ball. Not just it's it's

502
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: hard to believe that NFL caliber players can't run on that.

503
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: Dave real quick, someone Dave real quick. I just want

504
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: to point out I think Dave can back me up there.

505
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: They got a new defensive backs coach this year is

506
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Speaker 1: also the passing game coordinator, Chris Rochard, who came from

507
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. The Cowboys ran far more Cover one and

508
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: Cover three in that game last week than they ran

509
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Speaker 1: Cover two, and I would say they ran more of

510
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: that than they have in the last two years combined.

511
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 1: They've completely changed systematically on that back end and how

512
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Speaker 1: they're trying to disguise things and make it look as

513
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Speaker 1: two and go to one. And you had the safety

514
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: in the box on most place, all right, and the

515
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 1: last I'll kind of leave leave it here so some

516
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: of the people can call in. But you know, some

517
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: of the pundits out there, um, you know, and and

518
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: I know Dave watches a lot more film and you

519
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: as well, John than most of us fans. I actually,

520
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: you know a couple of websites, Um, a couple of

521
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: people posting on social media. Um, you know, reporters that

522
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: cover the team have been breaking down some of the

523
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: All twenty two film and I watched some of it

524
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: as well. Not an expert by any means, but it

525
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: does look like you know, I probably counted six to seven,

526
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Speaker 1: maybe eight rows that were there with a decent pocket, Dave,

527
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: you know John, I mean, as many years as this

528
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Speaker 1: old line has been bad, are we just seeing a

529
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: guy that, granted he doesn't have a lot of help,

530
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: but that's starting to get a little gunshot and and

531
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: and the hits have taken their toll. I live like

532
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: a David car early in his career, a great athlete.

533
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean you watched David Carr in practice or when

534
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: he would come in in a preseason game. I mean,

535
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: the guy's got all the tools. I think Eli still

536
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: has the tools to succeed, but have the hits had

537
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 1: it up? And I'll ended on this 's what's really

538
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: depressing is we let this man's career come to I

539
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: think I saw his win loss record the other day,

540
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: a hundred and eleven wins. That embarrassing for this guy,

541
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: this legend, to end his career like this. I'll take

542
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: it off there and listen to your comment. Thank you,

543
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: have you go ahead on the first point. Does anyone

544
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: to jimp in on the game films? Yeah, yeah, No.

545
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: I definitely think that he has a lot of football left.

546
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: I think that he still has an arm. I think

547
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: that he's still can get the job done, and I

548
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: still think that he is the leader of this football team. Otherwise,

549
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: Pat Shermer and Dave Gentleman wouldn't have given the reins

550
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: to him the way that they did if they didn't

551
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: believe in, truly trust in him. I think that a

552
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: lot of it's gonna come down to the way that

553
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 1: they execute together. And continuing once, I will say this

554
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: the last time. Does Eli have to be more accurate?

555
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,719
Speaker 1: Does he have to make better throws? Absolutely? And did

556
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: he miss a couple open guys? Sure, But when you

557
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: give him time, when you give him a run game,

558
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: there is nobody that can diagnose and get it done

559
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: before a pre snap look than anybody like Eli Manning does.

560
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: And people that are claiming that he's not reading defenses correctly, look,

561
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things you can criticize Eli

562
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: Manning for it. Don't criticize his ability to read a

563
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: defense had to understand what they're trying to do. That

564
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: guy's watch more film and watches more film during the

565
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: week than people have watched in their lives. And we

566
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Speaker 1: went through this morning. Actually, I get the videos and

567
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: the clips. What was he thinking here, Well, there's this

568
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: safety and there's a corner backing up right into it,

569
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: and why risk that? Throat and fans do their best,

570
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: and they're trying to do good, honest analysis, But I

571
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: think sometimes and look, I if I tried to do

572
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: what I do now with some of the stories you

573
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: see out there three years ago, I wouldn't have been

574
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 1: able to do it. I sat here, and I've watched

575
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: film with Dave, he can speak. I've watched film with

576
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: Carl Banks, and I've learned, and you watch the stuff

577
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: on your own. You can do your best and you're

578
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: gonna be right. Sometimes you're gonna be wrong sometimes. But

579
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: there's a lot like we saw some clips here, or

580
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: somebody's like, well, this is an easy throw, and I

581
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: showed the clip to Day he goes, no, that's an interception.

582
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: You're not going to throw it over to the boundary

583
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: where you have a cornerbacking up and the safety coming

584
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: over the top and this quarter didn't squat. He was

585
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: fading back into that into the zone. Correct. So I mean,

586
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: I think there are some piece of analysis out there

587
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: that are good and some that aren't um And sometimes

588
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: within the same article you have two or three plays that, yeah,

589
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: he missed the guy in that play absolutely, but other

590
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: players you're like, like, there's one play that people keep

591
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: showing where Beckham's running free down the left sideline. Stops

592
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: the video after elis already thrown and completed a pass

593
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: to Cody Lattimer and the safety and Quarner is stepping

594
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: up to react to the throw. If you stop the

595
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: video when elis releasing the ball, Beckham is even with

596
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: the corner and the safety still tend towards behind him

597
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: and a cover two when the cover two was literally

598
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: designed to stop deep sideline routes and that's where Beckham

599
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: was going. So sometimes there's good stuff out there, and

600
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: sometimes it wasn't such good stuff out there, And that

601
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: was part of Sunday Night Football. They're like, oh, he

602
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: had Odell and that when the ball was already thrown

603
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: and you're gonna see him running into the back at

604
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: the end zone by himself, why because the corner and

605
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 1: the safety were running to the football five on three.

606
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: Richie's in Long Island. He's up next. Hey, rich Hey,

607
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: what's up, guys? Let's up Chie? Not much um, So

608
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: the only thing I'm worried about is if Apple can't play. Um. Also,

609
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: Vernon can not play this week coming up. Big deal.

610
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: It's a big deal. Yeah. Apple has been pretty good.

611
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: And also you know, because I think what's one of

612
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: their wide receivers Fuller? Fuller and Fuller and Hopkins they're

613
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: both excellent. Yeah, I don't know who's uh do they

614
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: both play outside position or they they're generally outside, but

615
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: do they will move Hopkins to try to use that

616
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: size in the slot inside sometimes too? Okay, Yeah, I

617
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: know what the Shawn Watson is not um you know,

618
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: and some penzil right now, he's not performing as how

619
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: he was you know the last uh season? Pretty good

620
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: to me? Pretty good. I mean, this is the thing,

621
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: the two throws that we were talking about, the interceptions.

622
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: He's definitely looking at those thinking what did I just do?

623
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: But there are other plays where you see him gun

624
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: slinging in there on the move and throw it with

625
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: one foot on the ground. You're like and dead accurate

626
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: by the I mean on a on a rope, and

627
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: you just sit there and you think to yourself, while

628
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: he's physically a gifted quarterback, that is a pro quarterback,

629
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: throw right there and it's just now it's making sure

630
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: that you put pressure on him, like I said to

631
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: where his accuracy issues become when his feet aren't planted,

632
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: when he doesn't get a clear view, when he has

633
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 1: pressure on him, and he's just trying to get rid

634
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: of the football. I mean, look at the end of

635
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: the game last week, he's trying to make a play.

636
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: He loses track of the time and lets all the

637
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: time we're not not doesn't get an opportunity to take

638
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: one more shot at the antzde He will hold the

639
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: ball a little bit too, will hold the football to

640
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: to try to get that big play. He gets greedy

641
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Speaker 1: sometimes he won't just you know, dump it off. He

642
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Speaker 1: wants to try to make the big play, which should

643
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: in theory rich give your passengers time to get home. Yeah,

644
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: So let's say if Apple is not able to play,

645
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Speaker 1: who would start for him? Do you think b W

646
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: Web outside and then Dante Dion in the slot? Oh,

647
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: then all right, that is not. Um, that would not

648
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: be a good match up. I don't see that. I

649
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: don't I don't feel confident about b W Webb and

650
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: Fuller or Hopkins. Um well, I'll tell you what web

651
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: Web can run with anybody. So Fuller won't be able

652
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: to burn him deep just based on speed. But obviously

653
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot more to play in corner than just

654
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: having good speed. Yeah. Yeah, technique and everything another thing.

655
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: I just it's you know, I understand why fans are

656
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: just so frustrated because you know, you do these smooth

657
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: and offseason for an offensive line, and you know you

658
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: are talking about offensive line even though it's not all

659
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: on the plane of them. You know, it's you know,

660
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 1: other players making this is um, how do you um?

661
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: This of course is for you, David, you don't take

662
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: this off. How do you felt about you know, Hernandez

663
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: his performance Toffar. I mean understand that he's a rookie.

664
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Speaker 1: Absolutely Granted I was critical about him on the Blitz

665
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: pick up of the linebacker because that's something that doesn't

666
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: matter whether you're a rookie or your fifth year player.

667
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: That's something that you have to understand. And his eyes

668
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: were there. It's just a reaction time. Knowing that you

669
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: can't post and slide down on that nose tackle and

670
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: then be able to kick back out and take that guy.

671
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: You're supposed to body language touch him and their eyes

672
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: are supposed to be on the linebacker the entire time.

673
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: But in regards to him playing football, listen, he's been

674
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: up against the Jacksonville Jaguars defensive line and then on

675
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: the road in Dallas his first two games of his career.

676
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: To that's a tough way to start off. He's not

677
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: a person that will make an excuse, nor are we,

678
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: but you know that he was well worth where they

679
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: got him in the second round, where a lot of

680
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: people thought he was the first rounder, and he's only

681
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: going to continue to get better. Also, what is his

682
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: biggest strength. He is a phone booth maller, point of

683
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: attack guy. They haven't been getting the run game going,

684
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: so that takes away from one of the strengths that

685
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: you could sit there and say, wow, this guy is

686
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: an absolute animal and Dave for the most part, when

687
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: he's gotten his hands on guys, he's done a good job.

688
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: He's just had too many situations where he's whiffed and

689
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: hasn't whether it's because of quickness or whatever or not

690
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: having the right assignment, has not, you know, gotten his

691
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: hands on gays. But when he does, he has not

692
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: been overmatched by any means. No, And sometimes what he

693
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: does is he gets out of balance because he gets

694
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: so aggressive. He reaches. He reaches because his shoulders in

695
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: his arms get in front of him and it's easy

696
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: to get pulled that way. No question about five, one, three,

697
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: and folks, by the way, Profitable Focus actually has an

698
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: interesting story up and they grade all of the first

699
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: round picks so far this year in the NFL. And

700
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: I haven't watched the game, so I can't speak to it.

701
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: I can only go by their analysis. Quent Nelson has

702
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: an exactlyte start of the year on fire either No,

703
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: he is not. He's had struggles inside as well playing

704
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: for the Colts. There you realize the magnitude you're blocking

705
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: for Andrew Luck. There's a reason why they drafted you

706
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: six overall and then took another guard in the third round.

707
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: They better seal up the inside of that pocket, or

708
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: Andrew Lux is gonna have another rough season. Let's go

709
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 1: to our buddy Scott New Mexico he's up next day,

710
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: Scotty do Hey, guys, how are you doing. I have

711
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: a question. I have several questions. I'm going to keep

712
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: your because I know you have a lot of colors,

713
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: but uh, Dave, I wanted to ask you a question.

714
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: I think the Giant fans are a little jaded because

715
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: they saw you and O'Hara and snee and sort of

716
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: it put a line together. It was probably one of

717
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: the better offensive lines of the league at the time,

718
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: and I was just curious, from your perspective, how long

719
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: did it take you guys to actually mention as an

720
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: offensive line, because you look like you guys did it seamlessly.

721
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: So I was just curious if there was a time frame,

722
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: because we keep talking about time frames for this offensive line. Yeah,

723
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: you guys didn't seem to have that time frame. So

724
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: I was just curious as to when you knew you

725
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: had a good offensive line. It's funny that you said that,

726
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: because we did have that time frame where it was

727
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: rough to where Joe thisman called us the worst offensive

728
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: line in the NFL four. So yeah, we did have

729
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: the same type of things come at us. We did

730
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: have all the negative attention go towards us, But what

731
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: do we do as a group. We rallied together and

732
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: said it's not what we say, it's what we do

733
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: in our actions are what's going to change that perception.

734
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: And it's right when you get to that point where

735
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: you say enough is enough, it's us against the world,

736
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: and until we do something different, it's never gonna change.

737
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: And that's where they're at right now. To build that

738
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: continued continuity. They've already started it. They're doing old line dinners,

739
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: they're sitting together, they're watching film together. Now it's about

740
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: being able to get those live game reps and that

741
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: much duplication of it to where you're getting that muscle

742
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: memory and where you're working together. That's something you can't

743
00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: duplicate on the practice field. What in Okay, so him

744
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: his arrival, you think really solidified because rich was already here.

745
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: I was drafted in oh three, Then in OH four,

746
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: Eli comes in, we signed O'Hara, and and then that

747
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: following year we brought in Kareem and then after that,

748
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: like towards the end of that Old five season, that's

749
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: when I mean things really started to click for us

750
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: and turn around. Okay, I think there should be some

751
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: line changes done now. I don't think there'll be enough

752
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: time to do it this week, but I wanted to

753
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: get your opinion, either of you guys on on these

754
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: types of changes. Uh. As you know, we have pullyat

755
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: who played center on the Chargers and that was the

756
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: best offensive line for allowing the least amount of sex

757
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL last year. Would it make sense? And

758
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: I know you just talked about Hernandez, but Hernandez is

759
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: still a rookie and learning. Would it make sense? Uh?

760
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: And I know a mommy's not playing well, but would

761
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: it makes sense to put Pulley in at center. Uh?

762
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: Not this week obviously, but the following week and moved

763
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: Greco back to his natural possessition was his guard. And

764
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: then maybe either rest one of the two guards that

765
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: we have. We're both not playing especially well. Maybe Fernandez

766
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: because he can learn more, or a mommy because he

767
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: isn't playing to his capacity. It's just curious as to

768
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: what you would think about a move like that. Hernandez

769
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: isn't going anywhere. He's starting the entire season. You're not

770
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: moving him, and that's there's no chance. I wouldn't touch that,

771
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: nor would anybody else. I think the thing about Greco

772
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: filling in is that he knows this offense cold. He

773
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: played under it in the Rams for Coach Hermany played

774
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: for the Browns under it. So you're getting a veteran

775
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: center who's played a ton of football that can make

776
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: and identify every single call and be the guy that's

777
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: the i Q guy for everybody else up front. So

778
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: having him to come in and fill in that was

779
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: a tremendous asset. And that's one of the reasons why

780
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: they felt that they could trade Brett Jones because Brett

781
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: not winning the job, Hollepeo getting it and they haven't.

782
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: Greg will be the backup at those three positions him

783
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: filling in. He's a smart, intelligent veterans, so he's going

784
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: to be able to get the job done. Now. Patrick O,

785
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: mom may we all know, is a better run blocker

786
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: than a past blocker. Having said that, you know that

787
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: you're on the right side next to Eric Flowers, you're

788
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: gonna get tested. His whole thing is making sure that

789
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: he gets his inside hand leverage. That's his biggest thing

790
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: because when he doesn't get his inside hand leverage, that's

791
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: where you see his balance out of whack, his shoulders

792
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: get turned, and they can really work that edge if

793
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: you're able to clamp and get that inside hand. What

794
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: we always say say, I'm on the right guard on

795
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: the inside. You're thinking point pack, point pack. So if

796
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: you can grab that point with your inside hand, he

797
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: goes inside, what's the first thing going inside that point?

798
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: He goes outside, That's what you're gonna steer to redirect him,

799
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: and that's to give him the power. Right. See, we're

800
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: getting a little offensive line tutorial here. If you're I

801
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: was curious what is going on with the Jonathan Stewart.

802
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't seem to be getting any calls and A

803
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: not utilize him, and wouldn't make sense to maybe let

804
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 1: him go and bring up either Presley or Robert Martin

805
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: from the practice squad and get another runner on the team.

806
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: Because you want Barkin the thing will be accomplishing anything

807
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: you want Barkley on the field less. Is that what

808
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: you're telling me? Well, Barkley is going to get a

809
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: lot of touches obviously, but you still need to have

810
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: backup and you still need to have effective running and uh,

811
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: and I'm just wondering if Presley and Barkley doesn't need

812
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: an offensive line in a sense. He can break one

813
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: for six yards without an offensive line. But I was

814
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: wondering with Presley and Martin if they would have more

815
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: production than you're getting out of Stewart, if they're not

816
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: going to utilize them. No, because I don't think they

817
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: would utilize Pressley or Martin if they're on the roster

818
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: that if you quite honest with you, I think it's Scott.

819
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: It's much more about Barkley and what he brings than

820
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: it is about Stuart or Goldman for that matter, because

821
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: not like Wayne Goldman is getting a lot of reps either. Scott,

822
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: we gotta run. Thanks for the call. I appreciate it.

823
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Um. So look, I know a lot of

824
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: people are freaking out because Jonathan Stewart hasn't done a lot.

825
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: But we the preseason, the regular season, he has maybe

826
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: a dozen touches. Relacks. Relax. I'm not telling he's you know,

827
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: the you know, reincarnation of Eric Dickerson. But don't react

828
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: over twelve touches. You don't want to bring out the rexpects. Sure,

829
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: I love the respects to Eric Dickerson used to and

830
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: by the way, I did talk to Greco in the

831
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: locker room today with an interview and that will be

832
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: on giants dot com the next couple of days. And

833
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: before the interview, I asked him, like, go, John, I

834
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: know you haven't played a ton of games at center,

835
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: and he said, I played a few. But I said,

836
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: how about practice wise? He goes, Oh, in my career,

837
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: I was a backup center for a couple of years.

838
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: I have so many repsid center and practice. I'm really

839
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: comfortable there. And he that was before he got on camera,

840
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: because I want to make sure I phrase my question properly,

841
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: and so don't worry about him being out of position.

842
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: He's very, very comfortable at center, so don't worry about that.

843
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: And even though he was a guard his entire career,

844
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: anytime to start practice and you do center quarterback exchange,

845
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: he's over there snapp into the quarterback. And he's also

846
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: the most veteran guy in that room. So if you

847
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: want some one calling out protections, not a bad guy

848
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: to do it. You want to remind you that Big

849
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,200
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852
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Speaker 1: good afternoon, guys. Somebody, how many teams right now are

853
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: currently owen two? That's a good question. Let me look

854
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: that up. Stand by, I imagine it's probably off the

855
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: top of my head, maybe a half dozen. But let

856
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: me take a look here. Oh and two teams. You

857
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: got the Buffalo Bills and they are bad owen two.

858
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: The Texans are ow into, the Raiders are ow into,

859
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: The Giants are owing two. The Lines are o in two,

860
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: the Seahawks and the Carlos. You've got seven teams, okay,

861
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: And how many are owing two in our division? Oh?

862
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: That would be only one in New York Football Giants. Okay,

863
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: and then we've got nobody in our division is two?

864
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: And oh correct, there is a three way tie and

865
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: one and one for the division crown at this moment. Okay, Well,

866
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: you know, um, I heard yesterday's show, and you know

867
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: we've got some fans who you know, one of the

868
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: good one of the best points was, um, you know

869
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: why do we have you know, Eli can't run him,

870
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: he can't run you know everyone. He's going up against

871
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: all these teams. Our defense is going up against a

872
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: bunch of quarterbacks who can run. But you know, uh

873
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: what the fault was? The fault? No, it was what's

874
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: his name? He said? Um, have you not been watching

875
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: for the last fourteen years? I mean, Eli doesn't run,

876
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: but he can still if you give them some time.

877
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: Just like just like the vall that he threw the Beckham.

878
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: It was out of his hands. Beckham was running, then

879
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: he turned around and caught it. And that is the

880
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: kind of quarterback that Eli is and always has been

881
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: when he has protection. Yeah. Absolutely, Look and then your

882
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: phone and a little stinky there. So we're gonna let

883
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: you go. Thanks for the call. We're get a lot

884
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: of doors in our rent here, no worries. Um, look

885
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: at this idea that a mobile quarterback, Dave and all

886
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you don't need a good offensive line.

887
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: You got a mobile quarterback. Did you watch Russell Wilson

888
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: the first two games the year? You beat me to it.

889
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: If there is anything that is an advantage for an

890
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: offensive line, it would be blocking for Russell Wilson because

891
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: he uses his legs and you move the pockets so much.

892
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: But did it work when they had him sitting back there? No,

893
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: they gave up pressure and sex too. So it's not

894
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: just about having a mobile quarterback. It's about identifying and

895
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: communicating and understanding the protections and where it's coming from

896
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: and picking it up playing simple. Granted, mobile quarterback does

897
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: help you at times because it forces a defense to

898
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: play eleven on eleven football, but at the same time

899
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: you still have to protect. You still have to protect.

900
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: Do all right? I think this is fitting given I'm

901
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: sure he's a little upset. I got him bad feeling

902
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: about this. He's mine. I am happy. Hello Charlie in Portland, Maine.

903
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shut up and let you talk to David

904
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: Deal for five minutes. Go ahead on the Austin Howard signing.

905
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, Charlie, I want to laugh and

906
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: Dave you'll laugh at this too if you're on Twitter.

907
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 1: For about a half an hour yesterday, field Yates sent

908
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: out a tweet and the tweet said the Giants have

909
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: brought in to work out and they listed like six

910
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: offensive tackles, including Will Beaty, and I thought about eight

911
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: tweets from people like Charlie was right, what are you

912
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: gonna do? And then in about half an hour later,

913
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: he takes the tweet down and says, oh, sorry, it

914
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: was the Jets. It was one of those made my

915
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: whole day fantastic. Hey. The thing is, we had a

916
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: New York sighting of Mr will Beaty. Not he's washed up.

917
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a French so so so thirty three

918
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: and hasn't played football in two years. He was, He

919
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: was okay when he was out there. Hold on, hold on, Charlie,

920
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: Hold on, Charlie. When Will was healthy out there, was

921
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,959
Speaker 1: he getting the job done? Yes? Hey, if he didn't

922
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: get in once again? Hold on, hold on? Are you

923
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: kidding me, Charlie? Are you kidding me? Okay, Charlie, what

924
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: happened when I moved to tackle and Booth went into guard.

925
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: Didn't we run the football every game after that for

926
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: a hundred yards and win a Super Bowl? Did? I'm

927
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: saying the guy who was in front of you was

928
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: Will beat and if he didn't get he wasn't in

929
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: front of me. Listen, Charlie. Charlie stopped yelling. I'm talking

930
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: to you. Being laud doesn't mean you're right, Charlie. I'm

931
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: talking to you. I got moved because we needed to

932
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: make the on line better. Go ahead, I'm listening. No,

933
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: keep going, Charlie. Go ahead. You obviously know all your

934
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: offensive line play stuff. I just I was just going

935
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: to say, I think you would have been a Hall

936
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: of Fame guard if you stayed at guard. And you

937
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: know you were versatile, so they used you wherever they

938
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: could and you did a great job. And you're probably

939
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: one of the to that can be a versatile player

940
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: like you were playing tackle left right, guard, left right,

941
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: it didn't matter, so you know you should just versatile player.

942
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: I think you would have been a Hall of Fame guard,

943
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: not a Hall of Fame tackle, And I think you

944
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: would agree with that. No, I wouldn't. I want two

945
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowls as a starting left tackle for the New

946
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: York Giants, and I started over a hundred sixty games.

947
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: What do I have a regret for? What do I

948
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: have a complaint for? What do I have anything to

949
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: look back and say I would have done anything differently? No,

950
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: we won as a team. That's all that matters, Charlie.

951
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: That's what an offensive lineman is. He puts the team

952
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: above everybody else. That's what you do. Oh no, I agree.

953
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: So name another position that they tell you to shift

954
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: and then your people say, okay, okay, So then what

955
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: am I sitting here saying that I should feel that

956
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: I would have been? I don't. Okay, well I do

957
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 1: I think you would have been? I think I know myself, Charlie,

958
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: in my game and how I played football line. Let's

959
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: move on to this offense. Okay, this is what I

960
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: really wanted to talk about. So we went there again.

961
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: And look, if you go by a pro football focus, okay,

962
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: strike one, strike one, don't don't give me pro football focus.

963
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: Have you seen the guy grading it? He's five eleven

964
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: and never played online. Will Hennendez had eight. He was

965
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: in the eighties for grade. In this game against Dallas,

966
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: he had one really bad play, but he was in

967
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: the eighties. Helpo was also in the eighties. The Soldier

968
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: was in the high sixties, like sixty eight points something.

969
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: It's the right side of our line that was in

970
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: the forties. It's it's Flowers in his own momy and

971
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: oh Mommy, who played with Jacksonville was never this bad

972
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: because he had a better tackle next to him than

973
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: he does now. So to me, if we don't rehomever

974
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: last year when we had the offensive line and we

975
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball at all, and then finally a

976
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: bunch of people unt injured and Jones was finally put

977
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: in after the eighth game or whatever it was, and

978
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: Fluker was actually put in because they had to guess

979
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: what happened. We were able to run the ball because

980
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: we changed personnel, and you need to change that right

981
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: side now or it's going to be too late when

982
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: it's game sixth, seven or eight. I would put Greco

983
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: at well, let him stay at center, but I would

984
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: put Pulley at right guard, and I would find a

985
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: veteran right tackle. Let Flowers be the swing guy if

986
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: you want him there, and then we can really have

987
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: an offensive line because if you expect Eric Flowers to

988
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: get better and he hasn't in three and a half

989
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: years or three years and two games, he's not going

990
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: to get better. They don't have any communication. He doesn't

991
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: have communication, he doesn't know what he's doing. He doesn't

992
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: have technique, and at least a veteran would have technique,

993
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: and you know about stunts. You know you need to

994
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: bring in a veteran right tackle. I've been saying this

995
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: for three years and we haven't done it yet. So

996
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: who are you going to bring in Charlie. Oh God,

997
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: do I have to go through the list of people.

998
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: Go ahead, because I'm gonna reject every one of them.

999
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: Tennessee just had both of their starting tackles out of

1000
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: their game. Did they sign anybody that's a free agent

1001
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: right now? Because they had depth they had If they

1002
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: brought the guy from the practice squad up, Charlie that

1003
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: wasn't a starter, or somebody that was in there too deep,

1004
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: then they had depth in their practice Charlie. Charlie tut

1005
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: time out time all time with Charlie. Any NFL team

1006
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: can claim any player on a practice squad at any game.

1007
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: He's virtually a free agent. I know, I know that.

1008
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: But they brought somebody up. Did the guy in the

1009
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: practice squad start? What was he just a backup? He

1010
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: wasn't even a backup. He was on the practice squad, Charlie.

1011
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: He wasn't on the active roster last week they had

1012
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: to activate him. So that's not a backup. That's a

1013
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: guy from veterans David. Just listen to these names. Chris Clark,

1014
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: Howard nope, Austin Tasker nope, will beat Nope. God, what

1015
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: his name? The guy from Denver with a long last name,

1016
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: Stock of the k tried out with the Jet Coaco

1017
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: or Quo. Yeah, so you're saying any one of those

1018
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: are better than Eric Flower. You missed Chas Green by

1019
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 1: the way. Well, I didn't want to use Chad Green

1020
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: because I think he's just like Flowers. I wouldn't want him. Yeah,

1021
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: because because other guys are all great. So, David, you

1022
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: tell me there's nobody out there who can play better

1023
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: than what Eric Cloud has been showing on the field

1024
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: for these two games. Don't you think if somebody was

1025
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 1: better out there, they would have made the moves somebody better,

1026
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm asking you, do you think there's nobody who can

1027
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: play better than what Eric Flowers has showed these last

1028
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: two games? If there was somebody better out there? Listen, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie,

1029
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: you're not letting me answer. You're not letting me answer.

1030
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard the loudest one in the room

1031
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: is not the smartest one in the room. Just because

1032
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: you're interrupting me doesn't mean that you're right. Let me

1033
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: finish the question. Let me Charlie answer. I done with Charlie, Charlie,

1034
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: You're being completely disrespectful. I'm sitting here trying to talk

1035
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: to you and you keep cutting me off. Now answer

1036
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: the question. No, I mean, I don't even want to

1037
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: answer it for Charlie now, Honestly, listen, if there's a

1038
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: guy or a football player better out there right now,

1039
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: he would be on a roster currently, He would be

1040
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: signed by a football team and would either be their

1041
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: starter or their backup. The reason that somebody is not

1042
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 1: on the team at this point, where we're past week two,

1043
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: is because they're not good enough. A lot of teams

1044
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: wait after week one because everybody knows, if you're a

1045
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: vested veteran and you're on the opening day roster, your

1046
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: salaries guaranteed for the year. After week two, you can

1047
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: sign that person and cut him the following week. So

1048
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: if that's the chance, and that's the option, you're gonna

1049
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 1: bring somebody into work him out on a Tuesday, bring

1050
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: a minute. If it doesn't work out, you can let

1051
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: him go and you have no guaranteed money into it.

1052
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: So I'm what I'm saying to you is if there

1053
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: was somebody that they felt was better, they would be

1054
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 1: in here. But for all those people that are still

1055
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: currently not signed with the football team. The Giants aren't

1056
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: the only ones who don't think they're good enough. The

1057
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: thirty one other teams due too. And it's not like

1058
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of great offensive tackles running around the way.

1059
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: And you look around the league, the Giants offensive line

1060
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: is not the only one that has heads. And it's

1061
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: happened the last two seasons. Think about last season. Bob

1062
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: and I were talking about it last week. The first

1063
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: four weeks of the season, all anybody did was talk

1064
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: about how bad offensive lines were playing. And simple because

1065
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: of the different preseason, the way that the off season

1066
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: has gone, it takes time for him to develop. The

1067
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: teams that have their offensive line together and have been

1068
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: meshed together, what do you know, they're the team that's

1069
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: playing great right now and running the football. And I

1070
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: was no coincidence. And I will summarize Dave's answer for you, Charlie. No,

1071
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: he does not think the guys available on the rosters. Yes,

1072
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: I'm just want to make it very clear for him.

1073
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: All Right, we got two more calls. Lets get him

1074
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: in Brandon and Secaucus is I'm next day, Brandon, Hi, guys,

1075
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm doing? Thank you, Brandon, what's up? Alright?

1076
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: So state here just my points. Um. First off, everything

1077
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: the New York media vultures, they just attack and Eli,

1078
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: they were waiting for this. This is crazy. Let me

1079
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: just I love how like somebody was saying, oh, you know,

1080
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: he's been in the league too long. He just you know,

1081
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: someone said he can't read the defenses like he used to.

1082
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy has been in the league fifteen years.

1083
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: This guy can probably create a defense that doesn't change.

1084
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: It gets better with Tom haven't said that. Look, Charlie,

1085
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: I'll never agree with anything this man says. But the

1086
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: way he's fush, like he's venting his frustration. That's a

1087
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: lot of us Giant fans. And we totally and we

1088
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: totally understand that. And and and Dave, listen to me,

1089
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: you man, you should be coaching brother. Look, look, this

1090
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: offensive wine problem has started. You know when it started

1091
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: personally in my eyes and I got every game, it

1092
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: started when your core Dave of guys that you played with,

1093
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: they when they started to either retire, lead we all

1094
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 1: started getting old at the same time. And the people

1095
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: that they brought in or drafted to replace this weren't good.

1096
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: And by the way. I can tell you, Brandon, there

1097
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 1: were people on the coaching stad that were very big

1098
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: advocates for trying to solve that problem before it showed up,

1099
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: but it did not work out. H And let let

1100
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: me just look. I believe that dophinsive wine woes haven't

1101
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: going on for years. And this is my personal opinion,

1102
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: and a lot of fans do think this way. Dophinsive

1103
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: wine wose cost the second part of kafus tenure with

1104
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: this team. It costs McAdoo his tenure with this team.

1105
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: And me, I'm all in with Pat Shermer, my chips,

1106
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: and I think this guy is great. I think he's

1107
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: the coach we need and it's unfair to put it

1108
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: on him to solve this at the two games in

1109
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: one year exactly exactly. But if we don't come up

1110
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: with something, I don't know what it is. Trust me,

1111
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: if I had the answer, I'd be working at Medelic Stadium.

1112
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a long season and what's gonna

1113
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: happen is uh Shermer maybe getting them too at some

1114
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: point will out on their butts as well, and then

1115
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a revolving door coaches and god filbid

1116
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: we end up with the Cleveland Browns where we cycled

1117
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: don't don't don't you dare speak that blast, Brandon Hunt. Listen,

1118
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: season ticket holder. I pay no matter I go to

1119
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: these games. I'm die hard, but I don't want that

1120
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: scarlet letter on our chest to be. We are a

1121
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: flagship franchise. We gotta figure this out. And I've never

1122
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: seen an amount amount of talent surrounded by la no

1123
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: disrespect to the guys you play with. No, no, I

1124
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: agree with you. It's incredible we are I think we

1125
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: have it. I think we just we're missing something and

1126
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: I think it and honestly it's the offensive one. In

1127
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: my opinion. I think we're right there. We could figure

1128
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: this out, and obviously we all knew we'd all have

1129
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: a crystal ball. But I don't want Sherman to be

1130
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: another cautionary tale. I think he's the right guy for

1131
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: this job. Brandon. I want to put I want to

1132
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: put you at ease a little bit because I can

1133
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 1: tell you, even making the moves that he did last year,

1134
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: paying on Mara, he did not want to let a

1135
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: coach go as many issues as there were. Ben mcdoll,

1136
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: We're not going to rehash in here. He did not

1137
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: want to let him go in just a second year.

1138
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: That is not the way the Giants operating. It just

1139
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: isn't trust me. He is going to be patient with

1140
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: Pat Charmer, with Dave Gettlman. We tried to I tried

1141
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: to want everybody in the off season. If you guys

1142
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: listened to the show, I said, you're not gonna be

1143
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: able to fix his offensive line in one off season.

1144
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: You hope you get a little bit better, so the

1145
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 1: offensive line is good enough, with the offense can function

1146
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: at a decent level. It wasn't gonna become a top

1147
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: ten line over night. People, he told up and yelled

1148
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: at me. Oh, but what the Vikings did last year.

1149
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: You could fix this right away. It's so easy. Now

1150
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: those same people are like, why isn't it fixed. I

1151
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: don't understand what I tried to warn you back at Bay.

1152
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: The Vikings said their entire defense coming back that following year,

1153
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: helping and end to go back to you, Brandon. You

1154
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: know the first thing that you started off is exactly right.

1155
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: We're all in the same boat. We're all passionate about

1156
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: the Giants, but the biggest thing that we all want

1157
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: to see it's progress, plain and simple. That's what we

1158
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: all need to see to validate what's taken place. And

1159
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 1: no one's gonna walk off the street to save the day.

1160
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: Oh god, I mean that's that's only movies, the bad movies.

1161
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, Brandon. We gotta run pal good stuff. We

1162
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: we appreciate the season ticket hold of loyalty. The guys

1163
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: on the field have to get better and stuff. Look

1164
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: the stuff from week one, the offense could function. Okay,

1165
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: you're going against the great defense. It was fine. The

1166
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: stuff last week. I can't imagine that's going to repeat

1167
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: we after week. I just don't see it happening. Maybe

1168
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be wrong. I just don't see that happen.

1169
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: Nor do I. Nor do I. There's gonna it's gonna

1170
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: come to a head, and they're gonna say enough enough

1171
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: is because if you don't at this point, you're not

1172
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: gonna be here playing and simple. This year is a

1173
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: year not only to continue develop this football team that

1174
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: can continue to build on it and start putting the

1175
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: mold on what Pat Schirmer and Dave Kettlman want to

1176
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: do on it. But just think about it this way.

1177
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: Fifty three man roster in two thousand three, my first

1178
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: year coach Fossils. Last year coach Coughlin takes over an

1179
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: O four and two thousand and five there were thirteen

1180
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: of us left from the OH three roster. That was it,

1181
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: and there's only twenty three, by the way there's this year.

1182
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: So you're either a part of the solution or you

1183
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: are the problem and you will not be here. And

1184
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: I would say one more thing before we go to

1185
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: scott before we say goodbye. I know a lot of

1186
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: people reacted to the Sherman interview with Frances yesterday, and

1187
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: I tried to tell this to you guys before. Pat

1188
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: Charmer is not going to criticize his players and it's

1189
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: not going to happen. He doesn't think it helps him

1190
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 1: or the team win football game, so he's not going

1191
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: to do it. And also, why are you going to

1192
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: go out and tell people the systematic changes that you're

1193
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: going to make your football And look, I understand the

1194
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: answers are vague and maybe that frustrates people. I get it,

1195
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: But he's doing that because he thinks that's best for

1196
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: the football team. And if that's going to help the

1197
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: team win games, even just a little bit. I think

1198
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: you have to accept that and trust me, and Dave

1199
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: will back me up here. Pat Charmer is a former center.

1200
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: He is an offensive lineman by trade. If you don't

1201
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: think he was dying inside watching the film of this

1202
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,479
Speaker 1: game last week, he was probably pulling his hair out.

1203
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: But he's not going to go out there and show

1204
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: it in an interview or in front of the media.

1205
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: He's gonna do it in front of his team where

1206
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: he goes and holds people accountable in team meetings in private,

1207
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: but he's not gonna air their dirty laundry. That might

1208
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: frustrate you, and you might want to see the coach

1209
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: come out and throw chairs and kick chairs and throw

1210
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: the garbage gains, do whatever you want to do. That's

1211
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: not what Pat Charmer's gonna do. But I can promise

1212
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: you he's annoyed, he's ticked off, and he's going to

1213
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: handle this with the team. And trust me, the guys

1214
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: that screwed up, no, they screwed up. Yeah. And the

1215
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: other thing to go along with that is what was

1216
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things that was a distraction for

1217
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: this entire football team in all of the things out

1218
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: there with the media, not what takes place on the field,

1219
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: not what's on film. All the bs that took off

1220
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: the field that had nothing to do with what was

1221
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: taking place, and you want to avoid that. That's all right, Scott,

1222
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: and DC will wrap us up, Scotty do Hi, guys,

1223
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: I hope you're having a good day. I wanna, uh

1224
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: and take a step back and just sort of ask

1225
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: a question from a sort of thirty thousands of foot

1226
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: level in my opinion, In my opinion, the the object,

1227
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: the object in the NFL is to win football games.

1228
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go and I'm gonna go out on

1229
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: a limb. Hopefully John you can agree. Uh, you know,

1230
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: the object is to win more games than you lose,

1231
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: and the objects to win the Super Bowl. Scott, Let's

1232
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: be honest. The object is to win the Super Bowl. Okay,

1233
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: Well that would involve winning more games, correct, Yes, that

1234
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: is correct. Yes, so you so you agree with me.

1235
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: Here's the question, I mean asking for your opinion. You know,

1236
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: at what point in a season is it fair to say,

1237
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, what record in a season? Is it fair

1238
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: to say that a football team, any franchise, not just

1239
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: some Giants, is a bad team? Is it? Two and nine?

1240
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: Is it one in ten? Is it one in twelve?

1241
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: Because let me let me, let me just tell you

1242
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: why I'm why I'm asking. We've we've heard a lot

1243
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: about new coach, new system, People need to play with

1244
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: each other, there's a lot of new turnover on the roster.

1245
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: The field they played on was it was too hot,

1246
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: it was too cold, it was rainy. I'm not looking

1247
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: for any excusesline is one lost record. So at what

1248
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: point during this season do you think it's fair to

1249
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: say an NFL franchise is bad? God? It's a good question, um,

1250
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: And I do think it is different for different franchises,

1251
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: depending on this situation. So I think for a team

1252
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: that has brought everybody back, coaches, players, and the rosters

1253
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: very similar to the year before, and you have a

1254
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: track record, you can make that determination probably a little

1255
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: bit earlier, assuming everybody's healthy. Okay. Um, For a team

1256
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: like the Giants, for a year like this year, I'm

1257
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: looking at the schedule, so I'm turning my head here, Um,

1258
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: But the problem with the Giants is you can't take

1259
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: it away from last year. You can't last year. And

1260
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: I said this is a bad team at two and

1261
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: nine or two and ten. You know, the answer was, well,

1262
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: the season is a lot over it too early. Will

1263
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: take a look. I don't know who said that, because

1264
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: that's here's what I would say, Scott, and this you

1265
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: might not like the answer. I think the record matters,

1266
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: but I think also how the team is progressing on

1267
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: the field matter. So let's say let's say at the

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Speaker 1: bye we'll use that as an example here. Okay, you're

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Speaker 1: eight games into the season or halfway through. Let's say

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Speaker 1: the team is two and six, but they won their

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Speaker 1: last two games and we're playing significantly better. I think

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Speaker 1: then you say, well, look the team was bad for

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Speaker 1: the first eight games. That's a description of the past,

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Speaker 1: which is accurate. But maybe they're improving because either guys

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Speaker 1: are getting healthy, they're getting used to the scheme, whatever

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Speaker 1: the case might be. But let's say they're two and eight,

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Speaker 1: but they just came off two really bad games, and

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Speaker 1: then you can say, you know what, maybe you do

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Speaker 1: know half with through the year right now this is

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Speaker 1: not a good team. And then you had a curveball

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Speaker 1: last year where you're starting to get almost to the

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Speaker 1: midway point to almost to week nine, and you're like

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Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners are a bad football team.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo comes in and it completely changes everybody's outlook

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Speaker 1: on that football team in their season. Right. But I

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Speaker 1: think I think Scott, for this year, why don't we

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Speaker 1: talk after the Philadelphia game on October eleven, that is

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Speaker 1: six games into the season. I think you'll have a

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Speaker 1: pretty decent feel for what's happening and then you make

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Speaker 1: a final determination at the buy And if at the

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Speaker 1: buy there's no significant progress and there's no hope, I

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Speaker 1: think you have a pretty good feel of probably what

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Speaker 1: this team is about. I think that's yeah, I'd agree

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Speaker 1: with you on that one. Yeah. Well, unfortunately, stuff happens

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Speaker 1: during the season, just like last year. After two and

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Speaker 1: a half games last year to say they weren't going anywhere,

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Speaker 1: and then the injuries. Then the injuries started. But Scott,

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Speaker 1: the you know, the tricky thing is though in those

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Speaker 1: first five games, there were some close games in there. Man,

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Speaker 1: they could easily win three and two in those first

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Speaker 1: five if one or two players go the other way,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, but a team that

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Speaker 1: loses four teen games by a total of no question,

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Speaker 1: last year's team was bad. My point though, is that

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Speaker 1: in the first five games or the first four. It

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Speaker 1: was hard to make that determination because, like you said,

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Speaker 1: the injuries hadn't happened yet, and they were involved in

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Speaker 1: a lot of close contests, so you didn't know yet.

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Speaker 1: But once you got I think last year the game

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Speaker 1: that told you, boy, this is really really bad was

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Speaker 1: the Niner game. I mean that was the game where

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Speaker 1: you're like, you know what, this is a huge, huge problem.

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Speaker 1: Well that that very nicely brings me back to the

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Speaker 1: first thing I said, which is the object of the

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Speaker 1: game is not to be in close games. It's to win,

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Speaker 1: no question, we agree, Scott. Thank you for the call, Dave.

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Speaker 1: This was fun. I didn't even have to talk to Charlie.

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Speaker 1: You talked about time for me. That that's that's and listen,

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Speaker 1: like I was saying him, I love debating and talking

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Speaker 1: sports and football. But if we're gonna make a point,

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Speaker 1: at least letting them finish my job. But not to

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Speaker 1: mention you're gonna argue with me, but you better be

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Speaker 1: prepared to argue offensive line. That's all I'm saying that.

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Speaker 1: Trust me. I will never I say, Dave, you tell

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Speaker 1: me about the offensive line. I don't tell you, but

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Speaker 1: we can we do the same thing. I don't sit

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Speaker 1: there and discussions disagreement, but that's you. Watch the tape

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Speaker 1: and the validates it. Dave, good stuff, always always a

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Speaker 1: pleasure smell. Let's do it again soon. Want to remind

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Speaker 1: the show. We couldn't do without you. We'll be back

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