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Bill Belichick passes 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.280 George Hallis and the Jets suffer a loss. All three 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.080 of their loss has been at home so far. A 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:20.160 pretty interesting game, a pretty pretty weird game, pretty awful game, 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.000 pretty awful game. Yeah, I mean, like it was. It 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:23.600 was not a It was not a pretty sight out 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.800 there at the Meadowlands today, Paul. Yeah, I mean, listen, 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.479 no style points. Patriots had to have a win. They 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.080 got a win, and that's the only thing that matters. 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:35.399 But I think most of us would be in agreement 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.160 that there is a long, long way to go. Still. 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:42.399 This was not, by any means, you know, the kind 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:46.000 of response that I think a lot of Patriots fans 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:48.440 were hoping for, you know, one of those Okay, we 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:50.240 were embarrassed on Monday night. We're going to go on 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:54.160 the rooad against the team that we traditionally handle with ease, 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.080 and we're going to smack them around a little bit. 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.120 They did not smack the Jets around a little bit. 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.400 The Jets handed them the game, and they also got 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.240 a couple of very fortunate breaks with personal foul calls. 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.480 One of which completely changed the course of the game. 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.000 But it doesn't matter because they had to have a win. 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.880 I think the season was over today, can if they 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.440 had lost the game at three and five, it is 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.799 not over at four and four. There is still hole. Yeah, 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:20.880 they're still alive. They're still kicking. And I agree with you. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.239 I think if they fell to three and five and 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.320 the Jets went to six and two, yeah, then you're 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.040 talking about not just the season being over, but fans 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.760 maybe disengaging, like the whole sort of thing. Just all right, 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:32.840 we'll watch the game because it's on, but not that 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.519 same kind of engagement that you usually see with fans 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.240 this early in the season, and that you know, week eight, 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:38.960 that'd be a hell of a time for people to 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:40.840 start giving up. But you can't give up now. It 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:44.040 wasn't a pretty game, obviously. Mac Jones struggled a lot 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.359 throughout the course of the game. Zach Wilson did too, 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:48.880 but was able to put a couple of drives together 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.520 at the end. There. All in all, I mean, if 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.320 we go back to our sort of keys to the game, 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.400 I don't feel like they really did any of them, 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.680 except for part of the game. They made Wilson c ghosts. 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:59.320 Other than that, I feel like they didn't really hit 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:00.760 any of the things that we talked about. And I 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.680 don't even think they you know, not to take away 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:04.880 the ghost thing. I don't even think they confused him. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:08.760 I just think Jack Wilson just continued to not understand 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:10.960 the idea of throwing the ball away. He would throw 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.560 the ball away into a crowd. He did three times. 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.480 He got away with it. Once down in the red zone. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.560 He threw one that fell in between a host of 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.120 players that had no chance in anything. It twice that 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:26.480 Devin mccordy caught. I mean, just throwaways that had no chance. Um, 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.000 I mean, I guess we could probably we can get 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:30.760 into the good, the bad, and the injured here. Yeah, 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.600 let's do that as deuces on the line. Deuce you there, 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.360 Oh yeah, oh yeah, let's get let's get deuces. Opening 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.760 thoughts thing because we didn't have the pleasure of enjoying 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:44.320 game time with him today. Yeah, I always hate this, Paul, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.000 and then I come into these things. But but I 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.360 agree with everything you said. Um, you know, I thought 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:52.480 that the first half was just disgusting offensively, it was 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.160 actually I found it offensive and then all of a sudden, 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:56.760 would you know, you get into the second half, and 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.480 then everything just kind of kicks in the gear. They 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.640 get a you know, a terrible kick off from the Jets, 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.080 they get a great field position, they get a big run, 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.560 and all of a sudden, here we go. The formula 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.960 has begun and they we're able to do it. So, um, 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.040 you know, hey, there's some great performances Ramander, Stevenson just 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.640 you know, back on track, outstanding. Um, I don't want to, 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.239 I don't want to, you know, come off all totally negative, 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.240 but um it was. It was a rough go there 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.800 at early going there, especially on offense. I'll play bad 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:23.600 cop then, well we'll do that after we do good, 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:25.360 bad and the injured. Though. Ah yeah, let's go ahead 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.120 and do that right now. Now it's time for the good, 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:35.640 pretty good, Pert, pretty good, the bad and the injured. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:43.080 Ah ah you all right, guy, all right, let's start 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.840 with the good. Um, I'm gonna go a different direction 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:47.200 with my good I'm gonna give it to the front 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.599 seven Lawrence Guy, Davon Godchau Guy at a sack in 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:51.400 this game, I feel like they did a great job 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.359 of stifling the Jets rushing attack, which is I know, 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.240 even without the rookie playing, it was still a formidable 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:01.320 rushing attack. And between Carter, Robinson and Johnson, they really 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.120 couldn't get much going there. And I think that's due 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.800 in large part to the big fat boys up front 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.960 getting getting the penetration. Yeah, I put run defense down 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.000 as well, only they only rushed the ball fifteen times. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.560 The game sort of you know, got out got away 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.840 from them because of all the mistakes. But yeah, I 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.440 thought when the Jets tried to run the ball um 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:21.360 you know, early in the game, I don't think they 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.839 had great success doing it. I also think, much like 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.240 Cleveland a couple of weeks ago, I think they had 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.200 a poor game plan coming in. But Mike, how did 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.320 you feel? Yeah, I mean I like you said, Paul, 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:33.960 I think they do what they had to do. I mean, 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.719 it wasn't Prefaul they were going against. I thought overall, 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.479 they limited damage against the run, did give up some passing, 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:41.640 you know, some passing plays that that changed the complex, 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:43.280 especially down the end. They're that big one made on 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.119 with a little Harry Um. But you know, pretty solid 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.240 up front, I thought from from from the defensive front, 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.720 especially wise and Jos though those guys were getting after 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.120 it too. I'll give you the next next opportunity to 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:57.000 give us a good I'm gonna take the layoff Romander Stevenson. Um. 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.440 You know, I think after two games, a little quiet 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:01.720 back on track, like I said at the top, and 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:05.040 it just continues to be the piece. I mean what 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.120 you know, I can play a little bit about Jacobe 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.080 Myers too, but I don't know where they'd be without 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.520 Ramander Stevenson right now, great game for him, just picking 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.760 up yards after contact left and right, starting to make 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:16.520 guys miss again like he did a few weeks ago. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.960 So you know, if they can continue to ride him, 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.320 I think it's a it's a huge thing for the offense. 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.279 And I mean if I think they have to, I mean, 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.479 I just think he's the key piece and as he goes, 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:27.839 they go. At this point, yeah, best player in the 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:31.640 field today, you know, certainly for the Patriots. I'll go 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.200 with Jacoby Myers as well. I thought early on he 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.760 had a couple of tough runs after the catch to 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.080 get some key third downs. You know, he ends up 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.800 with what nine catches for sixty yards, so the average 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.919 per catch not there, But I thought there was some 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:47.880 big plays come up with the fourth down catch for 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:51.680 the touchdown to start the second half. Not a lot 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.599 to feel good about today offensively in any regard. But 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:56.880 I thought Stevenson and Myers were too that I felt 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.000 really good about. So I had him both on my list, Remandri. 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:02.960 Stevenson and Jacoby Myers caught more balls or twice as 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.480 many balls as the rest of the team combined, sixteen 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.599 combined for them, eight for the rest of the team. 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.000 You could tell Mac was really leaning on him, and 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:11.320 we thought that he was going to do that, you know. 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.160 I mean, I thought Myers could have a big game. 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.200 I had mentioned that because I know the Jets play 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:16.760 a lot of you know, a lot of that cover 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:19.720 three zone kind of stuff. I thought that worked well, 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.880 um for his game. But you know you have to 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:24.480 go out and do it too, and you know he 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.800 was able to do it all right. Um, let's see, 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.720 how about another good I'm gonna go with Nick Folk. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.320 I mean, how much how much better could he be 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:33.760 from party? I mean, that's that's I guess the honorary 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:37.600 host pick, you know, but every yeah, absolutely did Folk? Yeah, 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.600 I mean, you know, you talk about key, Key kicks 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:44.840 because you know what, they had a situation today. This 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:46.480 is why I kind of like said I'll play bad 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.240 cop when you would talk about the the offense was 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.840 terrible for four full quarters. They had the one drive 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.880 that they had that they scored the touchdown on that 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.440 you needed, a thirty five yard run by Stevenson that 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.120 he got hit in the backfield and had like three 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.640 guys on him. They had four i'm sorry, three different 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.640 scoring drives. Say that they didn't get a first down, 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.440 like the points that they got today were completely handed 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.360 to them. They had a four play zero yard drive, 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.800 a four play four yard drive and a five play 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.800 sixteen yard drive that the only the only yards was 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.880 was a roughing the passer, which was highly questionable. This 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.920 was not good offense today. Nick Folk was huge. Forty 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:26.480 nine yards I'm sorry, forty forty five yards, forty nine yards, 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:30.120 fifty two yards, forty two yards, like not just chip 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.079 shot field goals. You know you're not You're not necessarily 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.439 going into a game saying well we're gonna go forty two, 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.600 forty five, forty nine fifty two, we're gonna go four 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.600 for four in those I mean, you hope to, but yeah, 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.600 I don't think you expect to make all four of those, 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.960 and he did and they needed every one of them. Yeah, 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.319 they needed him big time because they were not getting 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.800 into the end zone and outside of it, weren't even 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.800 getting first downs. Yeah, I mean they couldn't. They really 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.160 couldn't advance the ball much. Um. One other good that 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:56.880 I had, or I guess i'd do, so you go 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.080 if you have another one. Yeah, Peppers on there. I 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.200 thought he was pretty active. Did have a bad penalty 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.440 recover him the onside kick though at the end that 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.319 was a little hairy. I just thought he was active. 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.360 I mean, with dugger out, he was tough guy. I've 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:12.800 always kind of had my eye on him. I just 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.079 think he's aggressive and kind of like his quickness and 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.360 plays a little hard notes football. So I liked what 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.520 Peppers did today and I'm hopeful that maybe they can 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.080 continue to find a way to, you know, get him involved. 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.880 Yeah I would, if you were here, I'd have a 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.680 nice solid pushback on that one. I thought he did 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:30.480 a lot of questions. I thought he did a lot 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.360 of questionable things today. I think he should have had 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:35.680 two other personal fouls that he didn't, and I thought 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:37.880 he was out of position. Occasionally I thought, I give 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.560 him props for solid onside kick recovery and a good 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.719 tackle near the sideline on a running play on a 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.800 toss suite. But I thought I thought he was hurting 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:51.080 the team today. He was very fortunate that he didn't 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:53.280 get a penalty on the Garrett Wilson play where not 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.120 only he grabs him by the leg and tries to 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.640 pull his leg, which I thought was dirty, but it 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.679 was after he was already down, he was on a knee. Um, 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.120 and then he gets a personal file after that with 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.200 a with a helmet hit. Um. I didn't like his 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.920 game very much today, to be honest, Yeah, I have 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:10.439 to look at that one, Paul. I'm not have to 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.240 look at him out there. This is bad when we're 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.120 not together, you know, we're not working these things out 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.040 during the game. Yeah, that's okay, you can yell at 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:21.560 me later. Um between Peppers mccordy Adrian Phillips. I thought 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.400 the safety play was pretty good, you know. I thought 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.080 that the safeties were okay around the line. Yeah around 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.880 then thought yeah, like you you you brought up the 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.320 run the run defense. I thought those guys I thought Phillips. 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.480 I had Adrian Phillips, might as well bring him up now. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.840 I had Adrian Phillips strongly on my good list today. 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:37.880 I thought he had a couple of really good plays 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.240 and a tremendous passed defense down Michael Carter in the 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.600 end zone and the first the first time the Jets 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.560 were down there led to a field goal. Really good 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.960 defensive play, two good run stuffs at around the line 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.920 of scrimmage. I thought he was really good. Uh, Adrian Phillips. Yeah, 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.240 And they obviously didn't have Duggers, so you saw some 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.840 extra minutes there for Josh Bledsoe. The only play we 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.520 really saw him on is when he got burned by 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:04.520 the tight end there um uh Conklin and he comes 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.560 up to Conklin's waste, so you kind of expected that 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.640 to maybe happen. He's out there on an island in 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:10.160 the end zone with him. But aside from that, and 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.440 aside from a couple of places you mentioned Paul from Peppers, 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:14.640 I was I liked what the what the safeties did 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:18.280 as a group. Mike, what Elnce you got? Yeah? Can 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.120 I can I put Zach Wilson on? Is that allowed? Now? 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.760 I'm just kidding, Um, I mentioned I mentioned shoot On 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:25.640 and Wise. I mean I thought that they were They 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.720 were good all game. I mean especially Wise. I just 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:29.760 think he's uh, you know, I worried a little bit 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.040 hot start. Is he gonna fade out or you know, 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.120 I just I want to see that consistency from him. 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:35.640 And I thought he came out today and you know, 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.360 continues to you know, get just be disrupted, be a handful. Um. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.080 Liked what those guys did. I think they were a 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:42.880 big part of you know, the success that they had 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.080 against the run and you know, forced I almost said 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.320 forcing Zach Wilson into those instructions. I don't know if 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.320 that's an accurate way to say it, um, but but 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.200 they were good and I think they need to be 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.000 good and I liked what they did. All right, are 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:59.240 we all done with good? Yeah? I had real quick. 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.600 I had to kick off coverage today because that's something 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.560 that I think has been a little bit leaky as 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.000 of late today. I thought they they did a good 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:10.000 job twice stopping Braxton Barrios inside the twenty um to 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.559 force the Jets. It's a really bad field position to start, 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:14.920 So I had that on my list. I had Marcus 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.480 Jones is, you know, sticking with a special team, you know, 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.440 you know big. I think it was a twenty seven 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:23.040 yard part return which gave him. Unfortunately, Patriots did nothing 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:24.760 with it because they can't move the ball on offense 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.920 at all. Um, So I had that and then you know, 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:31.319 hats off to Bill Belichick for officially passing George Hollis. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.240 That was That was the extent of my good list 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.080 right there. All right, there you go, let's see how 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.200 about Paul, how about a little just Marcus Jones shout 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.480 out for that part return. I did, you did? I 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.400 just did. I'm gonna need you to listen. I'm gonna 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.320 need you to listen. I don't care if you're gonna 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.600 COVID fog. I'm gonna need you to listen. Yeah. No, 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.559 I thought special teams a little bit of a bounce 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.839 back today. Um, you know, and and again here's where 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.680 I would put Peppers into that, because that's a good play, 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:59.080 good aggressive play coming to get the ball. Um. You know, 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.280 on that on site and you know, I know everybody says, well, 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.400 you're recovering and outside kicked. That's his job. You know, 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.960 we've seen guys have problems with those. I thought he 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.800 confidently and aggressively came up and got that, so I 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.680 would count that in the Special teams. Unfortunately, they couldn't 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.360 top it off with the downing of a punt inside 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.280 the five when DeMarcus Mitchell rolled into the end zone 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.120 with it. But you know, overall, I thought Jake Bailey 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:25.199 was better today. Special teams was solid. Okay, well, we 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:26.760 got all our goods out of our system. It was 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.520 a win. But can I give you a quick red zone? 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:34.319 Douce likes these? Douce likes these? Okay, So, h Atlanta 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.440 had a six point lead, like with less than thirty 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.320 seconds left, kicked the field goal to make it six, 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.760 and they allowed a m a bomb for a touchdown 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.800 to DJ Moore with twelve seconds left, and it was 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.040 like a Hail Mary type thing and he caught the 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.400 ball touchdown and there was a wild celebration. I think 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.959 I'm not positive, but I think it resulted in the 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.760 fifteen yard penalty, which pushed the extra point back and 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.160 he missed the extra point. So it's thirty four thirty 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.240 four with twelve seconds left in Atlanta, and that game, 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:02.800 by the way, is for first place in the in 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.360 the NFC, So, oh my god, two under five hundred teams. Yeah, 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.480 someone's gonna be under five hundred and win that division. 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.120 That's that's something. It's usually that division, isn't it. I 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.040 remember that Saint a couple of years ago. I think 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.319 Carolina was like seven and nine or something, or six 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.760 and ten even I don't know, I forget. Yeah, um, 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:19.560 all right, well there you go. There's your red zone update. 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.000 Let's get to some bads. Um. I think the obvious 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:23.800 one staring is right in the face. Not a great 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:29.440 game for mac Jones. Mike. I wasn't gonna put him on, 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:33.640 but yeah, I mean it's just I mean, I I'm 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.160 struggling right now. I really thought, I don't usually put 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:37.600 this much thought into the good the bad, and I 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.120 know people were like, you've got he's got to be 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.040 on the bad Acta's probably if I was, there would 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.080 be a great debate. I'm not gonna quite put him on. Um, 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:46.200 I'm gonna get him a little bit of Aluway his 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:50.280 first bull start back, but overall, the offensive performance was 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.080 atrocious outside of Stevenson, and I think there's a lot 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.760 to dissect there, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.840 jump on them Mac right now, as much as I 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.560 maybe want him, Yeah, maybe I'll give him some points 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.040 for coming back, you know, playing his first full game. 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.200 But if I'm judging it off his performance today, he's 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.040 got to be on the bad list. I thought he 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:13.880 had a boatload of quote turnover worthy plays, which seems 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.760 to be the new buzzword in football. It's not just turnovers, 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.880 it's how many years should have had. So I thought 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.920 he was extremely fortunate on the roughing the passer. I 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.240 thought he was extremely fortunate on the ball that got 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:27.600 tipped at the line. I think it might have hit 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.160 Isaiah Wind at the line and hit C. J. Mosley 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.200 in the chest. I thought there were a couple of 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.840 others that he I didn't really see a whole lot 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.800 of like really decisive throws today from him. I saw 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.360 a lot off his backfoot. Now, in his defense, he 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:45.080 was under siege for most of the day, but I know, 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:49.200 I don't think he really ever did anything to help 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.480 himself in that regard. So I didn't think he was 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.760 great today. You know, in twenty four for thirty five 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:59.560 for one ninety four, a touchdown in an interception, sack, 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.360 six times. And like I said, I think that that 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:06.600 roughing the pastor call. If the Patriots rebound and have 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.760 a good second half to the season and make the playoffs, 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:10.720 that roughing the pastor call was going to be the 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:14.360 biggest play in the twenty twenty two season, because if 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.480 that does not get called, that's a loss. Yeah, No 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.360 one can convince me otherwise. Seventeen to three at the half. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.080 I think there's a fair chance you would have seen 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.680 Bailey zappy in the second half and the game would 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.200 have the game would have been over. And it was 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:27.880 one of the worst throws ever. I mean, there was 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.840 a terrible roll that had nothing to do with anything 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:31.720 that happened, whether you thought it was roughing the pastor 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:33.720 or not. Yeah, and Mac didn't even think it was 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.120 a penalty. He walked off to the sideline, had no 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.480 idea that was even a penalty on the play, So 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:40.400 it had nothing to do with the play. Yeah. His 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:44.080 actual interception I didn't think was his fault, obviously, because 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.840 they came behind them and knocked it away. But we're 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.600 gonna have to pause this right now and give a 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.920 big thank you to our sponsor, Microsoft Surface, the official 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.920 sideline technology provider and laptop of the NFL and the 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.120 New England Patriots that provides players and coaches with the 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.320 tools to succeed both on and off the field. Check 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.640 out the powerful Surface Pro eight, combining the power of 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.439 a laptop with the flexibility of a tablet over at 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.399 surface dot com. That means we are going to be 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.919 talking to a player right now, and that player is 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.520 Juwan Bentley, who joins us here on the phone line. 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:16.960 If I could just click it on, Joan, you hear me, Hey, Hey, 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.919 how y'all doing doing fine? Probably not as good as 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.760 you're doing. First career interception? How'd that feel that? Seeing 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.240 my second? But it's been a minute, so oh, I'm 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.560 definitely I think we should get after CBS then, Joan, 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.760 because they said it was your first career inter sense right, 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:35.399 I was just listening to them. Yeah, this is definitely 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.639 the second one we get on CBS. Which ones you 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.760 like better that one or the first one? I'm always 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.840 for the most recent, so obviously on that play, that's 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:45.720 a that's a big spot there. The Jets are looking 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:47.320 to get some points at the end of the half 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.400 up ten three. Uh, you looked like you dropped into 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.439 a zone. I think it was Ty Johnson may have 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.199 been in front of you. Was that was it as 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.440 simple as that. Maybe Zach Wilson just kind of overshot 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.240 at you. We are Yeah, well I'm not so sure 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:00.720 what they was trying to do, But all I know 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:02.360 was the ball was in the end we was out. 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:04.160 My job to make a play on it and after 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.040 what we had to get done. And we always talk 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.199 about making taking advantage of the opportunity when they come 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:10.640 our way, and I think he did a good job 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.320 of that. And those takeaways were obviously huge in the game. 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.440 Juwan Um, you know, you really gave the offensive list. 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:18.640 The offenses needed some help today to get some points 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.080 on the board, and you guys were consistently able to 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:24.119 do that. What was the key to sort of, I 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:28.320 would say, hurrying Zach Wilson around and allowing him because 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.520 he obviously got a little bit flustered and through something 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.399 to you what was the key to getting some pressure 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:36.040 on him? Just the first one. We definitely always talk 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:40.399 about playing complimentary football. He has an entire team, but defensively, 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.720 we always we know Zack he's a great athlete of 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:45.480 quarterback that we know he wants to like get in 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.439 space and likes to throw the ball and things like that. 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.000 So our job just when we had an opportunity to 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:51.720 get him on the ground, just to make something happen. 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.439 I think we did a solid job of that. But 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.600 our job of the defense just to play complimentary football, 0:18:57.640 --> 0:18:59.960 calls turnovers and put our offensive position to make put 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.280 and I think we did a solid Jovatan today we're 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.760 talking with Juan Bentley. Juwan, you guys did a real 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:06.800 nice job. I think against the run game. That's a 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.840 good running team there with the Jets, even without their 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.639 start running back. Um, you can you talk about the 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:13.520 playoff in front of you and how the how the 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:15.639 big guys looked and what that if that made your 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:19.200 job any easier there on the second level, Yeah for sure. 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.399 First of all, shout out to my big guys up front. Uh, 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.320 we were definitely rely on them guys heavy expicially when 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.119 it comes to running football teams. I think it did 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.560 a solid job today. They just have a lot of 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:30.600 dynamic money back that bring a lot of different things 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.800 to the table. So us being able to step up 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.480 and make and make plays as well as tackling uh 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.239 these dynamic moneyfacts was big for us. So for us 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.760 to get that done, it's definitely each Obviously that that 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.160 run defense that you guys just talked about join, that's 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.080 that was a big part of the success today for 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:47.359 you guys on that side of the ball were you 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.240 were a little surprised that, you you know, just looking 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:51.720 at the statue at the end of the game, it's 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:55.360 forty one pass attempts for Zach Wilson only fifteen rushing attempts. 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:57.879 Do you think that was more because you guys were 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:00.760 so successful stopping the run earlier, You're little prize they didn't. 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.199 They didn't try to try the lock running the ball 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:07.160 a little bit more often when it comes to getting 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.560 on the other side of understanding their game plan, I'm 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:11.679 not too sure about about all that, But I just 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.760 know when when we had an opportunity to be able 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:16.399 to stop the different run plays, to do a good 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.720 job of drawing up different scheme plays for different teams, uh, 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:21.840 to kind of get that run game going. So we 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:23.560 just knew when the opportunity showed up, we had to 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:25.880 make it happen. As far as them passing the ball 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:28.239 as must really did, we don't. We don't have too 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.639 much control over the album. But we just knew, uh, 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.080 when a schoolboy hit a certain moment, they probably gonna 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.639 throw the ball a little bit more. So hopefully that 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.080 played a part. All Right, we'll leave it right there, Juan, 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:40.560 congratulations on the win. Enjoy the rest of the night. 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.399 I appreciate it. Have a good one, all right. Dad's 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:46.679 Joan Juwan Bentley, linebacker for the Patriots there as they 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:49.720 come away with a twenty two seventeen win over the Jets, 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:51.920 doing large part to the defense, and you know that 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:56.040 that whole unit's ability to really get after in the 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.119 flumming Zack Wilson, although as you pointed out, you know 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:01.600 it was one thing when Sam Darnold was seeing ghosts 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:03.520 because he couldn't figure out what the coverage. Well, yeah, 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:05.720 I don't think Zach Wilson got confused at all. He 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:07.360 saw the ghost, but he was like staring him down 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:09.280 and throwing it right. He's trying to throw the ball 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:11.639 away and he doesn't do it properly all the time, 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:14.879 which I thought that was what made it, you know, 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:22.280 so strange um or at least away from people. You know, 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.200 I'm throwing it away, I'm running like he would get 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:27.080 he would get himself out of trouble, out of the 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.240 pocket run away, which now allows him to throw it 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:33.200 away anywhere. And at least three times he threw it 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.679 in a general direction of Patriots and one of them 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:39.520 he got away with and two of them he didn't. So, yeah, 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:42.440 this was not like the Sam Donald game where he's 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:45.760 like confused and throwing it into a dropping guy or 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.399 someone falling into a zone or whatever. This was. I 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:53.280 just thought this was really, uh, just just three or 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:56.160 four I don't think it's funny. I don't think he 0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:59.880 was like completely terrible all game. But they were about 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.080 ten or twelve plays. I mean, that's obviously a huge amount, right, 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:04.879 there were about ten or twelve plays. He looked like 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:06.960 he had never played the position before. A couple of 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:08.960 little throw us to the backs in the flat that 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:11.119 he couldn't get to them. The throw at the end 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:14.040 of the half that Bentley picked off was inexcusable. Yeah, 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:16.880 that's an easy throw and catch for a first down, 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:18.200 and they're going to get points at the end of 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:20.760 the half. Instead, you give the Patriots points at the 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.480 end of the half. You know, game game changing kind 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:25.960 of plays, and you know these are these are the 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:28.720 things that Zach Wilson's still trying to learn. Yeah, Oh, 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.720 I thought he looked like last year's Jets game there, 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:33.400 and it was that it was that same game where 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.560 he was just throwing him left and right. Like I 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:38.080 was laughing at myself the same way I was last year, 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:40.320 like you gotta be Kidney. He's just I don't get it. 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:41.680 I don't get it with him. And if I was 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:43.960 a Jets fan, I imagine i'd be, you know, beside myself, 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:45.919 because I think he had an opportunity. Today, I'd be 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:48.919 more upset with with Sala and Michael Lafloora because I 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:51.000 think that they decided that they wanted to do it 0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:53.920 like Cleveland did a couple of weeks ago, and say, well, 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:55.040 we're not going to be able to run it on 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:56.840 him because they're expecting us to run it. So we're 0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:58.520 gonna be tricky and we're going to throw it all 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:00.760 over the place. And when you don't have a team 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:04.000 that can do that, you're gonna lose. And today you're right, Mike, 0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:07.320 that they lost the game. You know, they they handed 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:11.440 the opportunity for all those points two the Patriots because 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:13.320 they refused to run the ball. If they had just 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.840 run the ball and punted, they would have had a 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:19.000 very good chance to win that game too. If Wilson 0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:20.840 took a couple of sacks, if you if you say 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:23.399 zero turned overs for the for the Jets today and 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:25.840 just run the ball and punt, they would have had 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:28.840 a very good chance to win the game today. Yeah, 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.800 that's a big gift because it didn't happen. But I 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:34.399 just think it's another one of those coaches that I 0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:37.359 think sort of got you know, you know, like a 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:40.359 little too tricky for his own good. Yeah, it would 0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:42.400 appear that way, and uh, you know, for a team 0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:44.560 that had that kind of momentum playing at home, which 0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:46.879 isn't really much for the Jets this year. Jets are 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:48.280 one and three at home. All three of their losses 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:49.960 are at home. They've won four games on the road 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:53.360 and are just much better, it seems like when they're 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:56.280 when they're playing away from MetLife. And that's interesting because 0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.080 you know, you come in with this wind streak and 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:01.520 you have to edge, and that those fans were fired up, 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:03.280 and I feel like I don't want I don't know 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:04.920 if the Patriots took the fans out of the game. 0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:06.879 But I think just like, did you ever feel like 0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:09.280 the fans were a factor? Like I felt like it 0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:11.200 was just a quiet day. I thought the fans were 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:13.399 a factor until that roughing the passer call, and I 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:16.520 thought that really I thought that really really took took 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.760 the window. I think that there was a collective with 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:20.879 still the Jets on that play, like, we have a 0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:24.240 chance here to to be we have a chance here 0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:27.960 to finally, you know, establish ourselves as a playoff team. 0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:32.760 And then I think they said was still the Jets, Yeah, 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:34.840 bad things are going to happen to us in key spots. 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.520 And you know that's what happened, you know, those those 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:40.840 personal fouls. I like, I don't even like the call 0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:44.680 that they had on mostly which which you know started 0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:47.000 a drive that ended up with no points anyway, But 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:50.520 that was a huge field position drive. Um, you know, 0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:52.880 he was short, he's running, he's diving for the first down, 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:56.399 and he got hit not in the head, And I 0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:58.240 don't really even know what they called. I mean, Gene 0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.159 Stator came on and he clearly didn't agree with the 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.040 call either. So I think there was a lot of 0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.040 that with the Jets, Like I could, I could see 0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.400 being a Jets fan today and just deciding halfway through 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.800 we're not winning this game. Like every time we were 0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:11.640 in position to take control of the game, something bad 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.359 happens and I could see the Jets this saying we're 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.320 still the Jets and we still suck. Yeah, there was 0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.960 a very real sense of same old Jets going on there. 0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:21.800 I was getting text from a buddy that I went 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:24.320 to college with him. He was like Jet beside himself 0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:26.280 the whole game. I'm sure with all the with all 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:29.960 the things they were doing. Um, I mean listen, it 0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:31.560 was a one score get you know, they they're down 0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:34.240 there in the and made that a one score game 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.159 with that last touchdown. Well, and they would down the 0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.280 other time before that's drawing the ball into the end zone. 0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.159 They just couldn't make any place. Yeah, um, it was. 0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.080 It was really it could have gone either way. Like 0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:46.440 they play again in two three weeks, right, uh, two 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:48.760 weeks too, well, it's three because of the bye three 0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:52.120 they play Indie. Then they have a bye right yeah, 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:55.240 Indie buy Jets, right not not by next week Indie 0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:58.040 buy Jets. Yeah, So they got to win them both. 0:25:58.080 --> 0:25:59.760 I mean, the Patriots have to win all three of 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:01.760 these games, and it won't be easy. And based on 0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.480 what you saw today, you know it will not be easy. 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:06.520 I didn't see anything today that I feel like as well. 0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:08.200 They own the Jets, They're gonna beat them NET in 0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:09.840 two week like this is no problem. They don't have 0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:11.320 to worry about this team. I don't think that game 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.480 in two weeks at Gillette could be a could be 0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:15.560 a real barnburner. And I don't mean like a really 0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:17.840 fun exciting game, but like a grind it out got 0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:20.320 a win by one schools like today. Yeah, Deuce, do 0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:22.119 you want to kick us off on the on the 0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.440 bad list? Oh right, yeah, I'm gonna keep it going. 0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:26.040 I mean, I know we have Mac at first. I 0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:28.080 mean I'm gonna I'm gonna lean into the past protection 0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:31.400 end of it. Um. I just think it's been atrocious 0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.040 all year long. I thought, Paul, you're you know, your 0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:37.600 comments from from PU about cold strange kind of came 0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:39.879 home to roost a little bit today And wouldn't you know, 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.480 there's Isaiah Win playing guard bench. I just I think 0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:46.880 I get the past protection issues, and I'm stuck between 0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:50.000 knowing Mac doesn't look like he feels comfortable at all. 0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:52.119 And I don't know to blame Mac for that or 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:54.040 to blame the past protection, because I think they're both 0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:57.840 at fault at various times. But you know, overall, I 0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:01.720 just think that they haven't established a pocket consistently this 0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:05.399 season anywhere close to enough. And until they do that, 0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:06.840 I don't know if you're ever going to see Mac 0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:09.840 Jones find any confidence in the pocket or any ability 0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.720 to you know, go through a read without talking and running. 0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:14.879 And I mean those were some of their best plays 0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:16.600 once again or you know, Mac on the run. So 0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:18.480 I just think they got it. They got to figure 0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.560 out an answer on the past protection stuff, said Yanny Caduce, 0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:23.640 given him a try or what. But now you got 0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.639 winning a guard. Now you got cool strange kind of 0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:27.320 wondering what's going. I'm sure he'll be back in there, 0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:32.280 but it's just been a mess. Wow, And Carolina just 0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:34.560 missed a thirty three yard field goal and overtime. This 0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:37.679 is just bad. Um. Yeah, I think you make a 0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:42.080 great point, Deuce about Mac's role in the past protection, 0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.680 because I thought there were times early that he was 0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.000 under siege and got sacked, and then I thought there 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.040 were times where he kind of had a decent pocket, 0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:52.200 and he was holding, holding, holding, and then got sacked. 0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:53.639 And then there were other times I thought he was 0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.760 just running for no reason. And he's not a runner. 0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.600 I know he ran once for a first down today. Great, 0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:02.400 I don't think that that's his forte. I don't think 0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:04.400 that's what he's gonna make a living doing. And I 0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.680 thought I thought the tackles were bad a guy. I 0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.480 thought Marcus Cannon was really bad in this game. I 0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:13.639 thought um cole Strange obviously lost his job after a while. 0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.840 I just thought they had some trouble overall in this 0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:20.280 game with pass protection. I think you you know the 0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:22.000 fact that you have to put Isaiah win in the 0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:26.400 game at left guard. I think um is telling yeah, 0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.280 um cole Strange in particular, I mean you sort of 0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:31.239 mentioned it without David Andrews in the middle. He kind 0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:34.359 of looked lost out there, and uh gave you saw it. 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.480 You saw his face and you saw Cannon's face way 0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:39.120 too much. And I thought, I thought David Andrews has 0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.320 played really, really well. And I also thought, and I 0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.520 don't know if it's a different name now, but I'm 0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:45.520 gonna just continue to call him Michael all when you. 0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:51.200 Oh yeah, what is that actually right? So? I thought 0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:53.880 he played well. I thought he played well today. I 0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.720 saw a couple of times where he was he was 0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:58.840 knocking his guys around a little bit, you know, and 0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:00.600 I listen, I'm not an expert. I saw a couple 0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.280 of plays replays where I I you know, they showed 0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.440 him and he looked like he was pretty effective. But 0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.760 they had some problems elsewhere along that offensive line. They're 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:10.840 gonna have to figure out right tackle. Mike is right 0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.160 about Jandi ka just I don't know if he can 0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.280 give them anything, but right now they're searching for answers. 0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:20.560 Um other badge? Can I go? Sure? The rest of 0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.680 the wide receiver group other than Jacoby Myers, I thought 0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.600 they had a real hard time getting open. I didn't 0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:27.360 think that they were I know, right, I mean, did 0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.520 they even go out there? Tequon Thornton one catch, Aglar 0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.880 one catch for two yards, um DeVante Parker got hurt, 0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.000 so he gets to pass here. Kendrick Borne targeted once, 0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.200 no catches. It's like they weren't even there. Yeah, I 0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:40.880 agree with you. I think that's a good one thing. 0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.160 Kendrick was kind of a breakout game today. I think 0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.400 that's a little just a little bit short. Yeah, I 0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.280 mean he had opportunities, he just wasn't. I just think 0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:50.720 they had a hard time. And I think the pick 0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:54.000 the Jets front uh you know Front four controlled the game. 0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.840 Uh you know really from start to finish. Um, you know, 0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:58.520 the Pagrits ended up with two hundred and eighty eight 0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.280 yards of offense in this game. I mean, if not 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.960 for taking over in scoring position four times, they would 0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.360 have been hard pressed to get ten points in that game. 0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:11.800 So they had a long way to go still, Um, 0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:15.440 all right, any more bad. I thought the secondary wasn't 0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.800 great in this game. It just they they got bailed 0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:19.680 out by a quarterback who's not ready to take it 0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:21.959 full advantage. But um, as it was, he threw for 0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.360 three hundred and fifty five yards and it wasn't all 0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:26.400 garbage time. There was only one play at the end, 0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.600 m you know there that that was you know, really 0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:33.360 tilted the numbers play. Yeah. I mean I thought Garrett 0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.800 Wilson was open consistently, Um you know, that was the guy, 0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.480 and they were missing their number one target, um in 0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:43.320 Corey Davis. So yeah, I thought the secondary wasn't great 0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:44.680 in this game. I don't know if you guys feel 0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.240 like I'm being a little bit too hard on him. Yeah, 0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.200 I totally agree with you, Paul, And I thought that 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.520 there were I can't see the all twenty two on 0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:54.240 the broadcast, but it looked like there were guys open. Um, 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:56.840 there's one particular playoff this team that I was like, 0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.000 there it is, and he missed it. I think he 0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.480 missed a lot of throws. You have the big plays, 0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:03.400 giving up that play to men's at the end. I mean, 0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.200 that's just, you know, come on, we get guys down, 0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.200 they close things out. I thought that the defense was, 0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:10.880 you know, overall okay considering who they're playing against. But 0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:13.640 I'm with you, I think nothing that they did today 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.080 made me think that all that they're you know, got 0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:17.880 it on lockdown now or anything like that. Yeah, the 0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.400 run defense was better, but I didn't think really anything 0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.320 else was was markedly better from what I had seen 0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:27.480 in the recent past, you know, the Chicago game. Um. 0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.200 I also think we should spend some time talking about 0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:35.200 some coaching decisions today that I thought were kind of strange. Um. 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.800 Fourth and one from your twenty one from the twenty one, 0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:41.440 you pass up a field goal in a game that 0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:44.480 had already had all the year marks of a low 0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:48.480 scoring game. I think points were valuable. Okay, so you 0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.400 go for it, and you know, I understand the whole notion. Well, 0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.520 we we had a play we felt good about, right, 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.160 that was the play they felt good about. What exactly 0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.680 was the goal on that? The little play action fake 0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.719 in a role and there's like a one man right, 0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:04.080 I don't know. It just looked terrible. Look like an 0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.800 RPO gun wrong. Yeah, it did look like an RPO gune. Wrong. 0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:10.160 I'd be curious to hear how Evan describes that one. 0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.040 I'm thinking the same thing. I'm like, I don't even 0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:13.840 know how to describe what that was. I'm like, was 0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:15.680 it like a play action? It was like he pulled 0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:17.760 it up and then he like Hunter Henry looked open 0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.800 for like a moment, and then Jacobe was going one way. 0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.520 They threw it the other way. I'm with you on 0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.200 that on that play call, I mean, and it's just 0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:27.800 you know, it's a understand what kind of game you're in, Like, 0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:30.480 that's my point points on the board. You need it? Yeah, 0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:33.960 I would throw in after the pick six that was 0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:39.200 nullified by the penalty, what do we do? Then they 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.600 get a penalty, and then he just decides, like if 0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.040 you don't trust your quarterback that much at that time, 0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:48.800 that you're running two dive plays to vermondre Stevenson, followed 0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:52.520 by mac Jones taking a snap and running to the 0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.760 middle of the field to take a knee to set 0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.719 up a field goal. Like, I didn't understand what that 0:32:57.880 --> 0:32:59.880 was either. I mean, if you have that little faith 0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:03.040 and what's going on, maybe it's time to make a change. 0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:08.240 And then what I thought was really egregious, Mike, And 0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:12.440 you probably won't remember this because you're probably unconscious by 0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:13.840 the time you got to this part of the game. 0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.200 But it's twenty two to ten, twenty two to whatever 0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:22.720 it was, Yeah, twenty two to ten, and the Patriots 0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:24.920 have the ball and around their own twenty five yard line, 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:26.880 about a seven or eight minutes left, and again the 0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:29.280 game's over for all intents and purposes, as long as 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:32.400 you don't do something stupid. He comes out and throws 0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:36.680 a bomb down the sideline to Jacobe Myers incomplete, followed 0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:38.960 by a sack on the next play, followed by a 0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:41.360 little dump off over the middle, and then I have 0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:46.000 to hear when they punt and the Patriots before they punt, 0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:47.479 they allowed the play clock to go all the way 0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.480 down to one before they snapped it. And I have 0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:52.320 to hear Charles Davis telling me what a great how 0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.320 well coached they are because they let the playclock go down. 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.200 They could have taken two minutes off the clock if 0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:00.400 they had just run the ball three times instead of 0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.000 getting you a quarterback lit up again for the sixth 0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:06.160 time of the game in a blowout, and then I 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:09.000 just did that seem like the best way to milk 0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:11.400 the clock, throw a bomb and then have your quarterback 0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.560 get sacked. I don't think that was about milking the clock. 0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:15.360 I think that was about giving Mac a chance to 0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:16.759 go out there and have a drive where you can 0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:18.640 throw and he couldn't. I mean, it's you know, so 0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.080 I had three things that I just like. First, I 0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.719 put fourth and one what with a question mark late 0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.560 first half travesty I wrote? And then I just wrote 0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:28.520 coaching question mark at the end when they did it 0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.680 for the third time, I think that deserves second guessing. 0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:33.960 I don't know, maybe I'm being nitpicky after a win. 0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:36.880 It's not the first time I'll get made fun of 0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.279 for that. Well, I mean, I'll piggyback a little bit 0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:40.960 on your fall because I just I mean I put 0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.400 the coaching just generally offensive coaching. You know, whatever you 0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:44.840 want to however you want to give it up. We 0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:46.440 don't know exactly what it is, so we'll just put 0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:48.880 it on all of them. But I'm watching this offense 0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.480 since August. It's the same thing. I mean, it's just 0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.359 there's no real progression right now, and I'm not sure 0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:56.120 what they're doing. I mean, we can talk about Mac, 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:57.840 we can talk about Patricia, we can talk about the 0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:01.400 play calls. Regardless of what it is. Other than Remondre Stevenson, 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:06.120 there's nothing consistent or good about this offense. I completely agree. 0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.840 If not for like an incredible individual effort by Ramandre 0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.640 Stevenson to break three tackles in the backfield and run 0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:17.480 thirty five yards, that game might still be going. Like 0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:20.080 there was no separation in that game. That play, that 0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:24.000 singular played by Ramondre Stevenson was the difference, Like they 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:25.760 couldn't get it, Like, you know, you could talk about 0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:28.000 the temple they used. After that, they did have a 0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:30.240 nice throw and catch, though the one catch by Thornton. 0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:32.520 I thought was the best looking pass play the Patriots 0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.640 had all day. In all seriousness that I thought that 0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:39.880 was terrific Playum, you know, Mac looked confident on his 0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:43.279 back foot, bang the balls out like twelve yard out. Nice, 0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.920 you know, but that was it they had, not like 0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:49.920 they had no rhythm. I think, Mike, you would tweeting 0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:53.319 during the game about like everything is a grind, Like 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:55.759 how many plays did they have in this game where 0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:57.560 they got the first down by a half a yard 0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:00.280 on a ball that was thrown about four yards behind 0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.680 the line, behind the line the game, you know, and 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:04.600 there and you're like greeting your teeth is as like 0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.320 Johnny Smith get it by like right, you know, and 0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:09.960 give them credit for getting enough yards to win the game. 0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:12.239 But like in terms of an offensive plan, I'm not 0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.080 sure where it was. And it's like you talk about 0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:16.520 you get to this point in the season, Paul. You've 0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:18.480 heard Bill Belichick's day it all the time, right, Like, 0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.080 you know, you get the six seven games mid October 0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:23.200 late October, you start to understand what you have and 0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.640 the Jets are good And I will say the Jets 0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:29.840 are good on defense, Like I'm not discounting that the 0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:31.960 Jets are the Jets are a good defensive team, and 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:34.680 they played really well defensively today, But I've seen that 0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:37.960 offense more often than not. This is just there's no 0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.200 identity to this offense at all. There's been no progression. Um, 0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.120 I don't know where they're heading and where where they 0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.680 go from now. It's I don't know. I feel like 0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:50.600 we saw it similarly. Um. It's just it's frustrating because 0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:52.799 other than Stevenson, you don't really have anything that you 0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.640 feel like, here's what we can build off of. I mean, 0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:57.360 like Christian said, you came out of the game with 0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.160 like two guys basically catching all the balls, and one 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:01.520 of them was the running back who did all them 0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:04.200 work carrying the ball. Yeah. I mean, if we if 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.560 we were worried about him being a little worn down 0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:08.920 the last couple of weeks, I mean, that was a 0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:12.800 pounding he took today. He didn't get any easy yards 0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:20.120 in that game. Boy. Yeah, six for nineteen on third down. 0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:21.840 I mean that's dreadful. And I think they were like 0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.680 something like four for their first six, right, well, but 0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:28.040 I mean every drive is like six seven. I mean, 0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:29.759 if they if they're even able to get them. They're 0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:32.680 multiple third danks because there's no really well that's yeah, 0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:36.479 that's why they had nineteen attempts. Right from the first 0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.279 drive of the game, Mike, they take over on the 0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:40.120 forty five yard though the Jets had a twenty two 0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:43.120 yard punt on their first possession, allowing the Patriots to 0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.759 set up shop first and ten from the Jets forty five, 0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:50.480 three and out. Like they took over inside the Jets 0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:53.200 forty like four times and came away with six points. 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:56.919 Like it was bad. I mean even on the second 0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:58.840 drive pot me, I was just looking at it, writing 0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.080 it on my notes, like a third and ten, a 0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.879 third and eleven, a third and five, like another third 0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.040 down that they didn't get, Like, so four third downs. 0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.879 I mean, you're asking so much of an offense that's 0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.400 already so limited. How many third down play calls the 0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:13.919 napishers that have on that cart of his, Like by 0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:16.600 the middle of data second quarter, he's probably called ninety 0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:19.680 percent of them? Yeah, I mean that's why, you know, 0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.840 and I listen, I started off the whole show. I said, no, 0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.800 no style points. I'm not you know, I'm just looking 0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.080 big picture. Today they had a win and they won, 0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.200 but there's a lot of things that would like all 0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.600 the things that concern me heading into the game remain 0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:36.680 huge concerns for me. By the way, quick red zone update, 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.399 the Falcons got a game winning field goal from young 0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:41.799 way Coup and they improved the three and four good 0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:45.160 enough for first place in the NFC South. So congratulations 0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:47.719 to them. Very nice, very nice for the Falcons, and 0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:49.839 or maybe another four and four right, because I don't 0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:51.279 think this is updated yet, but either way, I think 0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:53.080 they are four and four and other puts them ahead 0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:55.840 of the Bucks at three and five. Yes, well, you know, 0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:59.160 very very strong division there, as the Panthers had a 0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:01.520 chance in overtime, didn't didn't take it, and the Falcons 0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.400 end up winning that game and now leading in the division. 0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:06.480 So there you go if you were looking for a 0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:07.960 red zone update. All right, I think we got all 0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.280 our goods and our bads out of the way injured. 0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:17.520 Well obviously, um a bunch of guys went in the 0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.560 tent today. Stevenson went in the tent, Myers went in 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:23.760 the tent. Obviously, Parker left the game, but it seemed 0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.240 like a lot of guys were I don't know, stepping 0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.920 awkwardly landing, awkwardly coming down sort of on their on 0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:32.200 their knee, getting twisted. I saw Mac at one point 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:33.839 and on one of the sacks, it looked like his 0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:36.120 leg got twisted around a little bit. It seems like 0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:37.960 these guys are just I don't know, maybe it's just 0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:39.480 bad luck, but it seemed like there maybe it was 0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:40.759 good luck in this case, and none of them had 0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:42.919 any real serious injuries other than Parker. Yeah, I didn't 0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:46.200 realize Myers was in the tent. Um I missed that. Um, 0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:49.600 but yeah, there was some guys. You know, Stevenson obviously 0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:53.160 finished the game. Yeah, so um, whatever he was dealing 0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:55.600 with wasn't severe enough that he wasn't ask too. Maybe 0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:57.240 it wasn't Myers in the tent Maybe he was getting 0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:00.200 like rubbed down. Remember that Phillips. Phillips was too at 0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:01.879 one point, but I don't think he missed any time. 0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.399 So yeah, this was a physical game. I Like I said, 0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.359 I give the Jets defense a lot of credit. They 0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:09.000 will put on the field in a lot of bad, 0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:12.320 bad situations today, And to only allow twenty two points 0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:16.040 in that situation I thought was really good. Yeah what 0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:19.200 what I'm kind of wondering is what's the extent of 0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:22.640 the Parker injury? Does that impact their potential trade options? 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.279 You know, I mean you didn't see anything out of 0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.640 Bagalore or Born in the game as well, So you know, 0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:28.960 how do those factors kind of come into things over 0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:31.279 the next two days as the trade deadline comes down. Yeah, 0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:34.880 it's a good point, a real good point for you. Um. 0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:37.520 I guess Bill Belichick's talking right now. We'll hear from 0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:39.040 him in just a minute. We'll be hearing from Mac 0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:41.560 Jones a little bit later on as well. Um, Doug 0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:45.000 Kie just tweeted that Romandri ste Stevenson had seventy one 0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:50.480 rushing yards today. He uh, eight yards after contact. They 0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.320 can't know eighty one yards after contact. How could he 0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.600 have seventy one rushing yards in eighty one yards after contact? 0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:57.560 I guess maybe on some of the passes too, But yeah, 0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:00.520 he was. He was really tough to bring down. I'm 0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:06.200 not smart enough to do PF math. Yeah, um, but yeah, 0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.440 I mean he was the he carried, he carried the day. 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:10.439 He reminds me of a thing I saw last night. Mike. 0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:12.320 You'll like this, you know, every once and I like 0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:15.480 to delve into like nonsensical non sequitis. So I'm out 0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.799 last night at a restaurant, Mike waiting, waiting for Beth, 0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:22.560 and I'm watching a college football game and uh, they 0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:25.359 put up it's Illinois and Nebraska playing, and at the time, 0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.560 Illinois had like a twenty to nine lead, and they 0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:31.359 put up a graphic the first four drafts Nebraska four 0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:36.080 four first four possessions, something like twenty eight plays, two 0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:41.080 hundred and whatever yards and ten points. And I'm like, hmm, 0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:44.640 how did they have ten points on the first four 0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:50.120 drives but only have nine points in the game? Did 0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:55.359 I miss PF math again? Seriously it said they had 0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:58.160 ten points on their first four drives. No points since 0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:00.239 so did they lose a point because they was so 0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:03.520 bad offensively in the last four drives they deducted a point? Yes, yeah, 0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:06.280 So anyway, I didn't get it, but I gotta stay. Overall, 0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:08.480 not a strong day for the downstairs. I mean you 0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:12.680 mentioned the Ona Wanu thing. Uh they're talking about the 0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:16.640 on Mac with with the penalty on U the linebacker. Sorry, 0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:18.840 I'm blanking on his Then when he came over C J. Mosley, 0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:20.880 you know they always hit him in the handlet he 0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:22.800 didn't he supposed to do. He's trying to get the 0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.040 right of the game. You're right there, like supposed to 0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:28.240 the tack room, but avoid his head while he goes 0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:30.560 to the ground. Yeah, when he's not. He clearly was not. 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:32.760 They kept saying he was giving himself up. He clearly 0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:35.719 was not. And to Max, to Max's credit, by the way, 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:37.960 Mack is saying, I need to get to the twenty 0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.960 to get this first down. I can't give myself up, 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.480 and he didn't. But he got built out with the 0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:46.040 penalty anyway, and that like that didn't lead to any 0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.440 points because that drive ended up in the fourth down stop. 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:51.240 But that allows like a whole change of field position. 0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:54.120 All that time goes off the clock that the Patriots 0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:57.919 have the ball in the Jets defense is forced to work. Uh. Yeah. 0:42:57.960 --> 0:42:59.759 Not a great day by the announcers. Not a great 0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:02.359 great day for the officiating crew either. I think when 0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:04.480 Matt got hit by Mosley, I thought it was I 0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:05.799 thought there was going to be your prod because he 0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:07.440 went he it sort of was like one of those 0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:09.160 hits where he just kind of stopped in his tracks 0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:11.640 and he was like, you know, halfway down on his knees, 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.120 and I thought, oh no, I don't know if you 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:16.279 heard at a time, Like I wasn't sure at halftime, Duce, 0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:19.560 I'm not sure you heard it. But Boomer was openly 0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.040 wondering why he was still in the game. Yeah, he 0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:25.560 felt like he felt like there was a you know, 0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:27.680 a moment where he laid down, you know, with his 0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.160 like are we going that far now? Because the guy 0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:31.680 takes a hard hit, he has to come out of 0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:34.400 the game. Like, I mean, I'm not telling you he 0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:36.680 didn't did or didn't have a concussion or anything, but 0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:39.160 like we're just gonna automatically assume guys that get hit 0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:42.879 have a concussion. And I saw what he was talking about, though, 0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:44.520 but I felt that was more like one of those 0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:47.680 like mac dramatics, dram mackticks. I guess you could call it. 0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:49.040 Oh yeah, you know that he kind of does when 0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:50.480 he goes down where he you know, like all of 0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:52.879 a sudden slumps like he was dead for like a millisecond. 0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:54.799 But yeah, it's funny because you're right, like, what did 0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:56.400 he gets caught doing that like with his you know, 0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:57.960 little antics and then all of a sudden you're out 0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:00.719 of the game. Concussion protocol, trying to pull up right, 0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:05.360 I did the h I did the Mike mac Jones 0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:07.920 voice on the fourth down that they went forward and 0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:10.200 got the touchdown. Did you see him when he gestured 0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:12.760 to the sideline like we got, like he was saying 0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:19.520 with going for it, Ye, we'll go win, We'll go win. Yeah? Yeah, 0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:22.600 all right. If he didn't kick anybody in the he 0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:24.560 did not, not that we saw anyway. If he did it, 0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:26.200 he did it off camera. All right, there you go. 0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:28.440 There's you're good, you're bad, and you're injured. Here is 0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:31.080 the Patriots come away with a twenty two seventeen win 0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:34.439 over the Jets and MetLife Stadium in New Jersey. It 0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:36.400 was again not a pretty win, but a win's win. 0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:38.520 Patriots now up, but five hundreds, still in last place. 0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:40.080 They had no chance of getting out of last place 0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.040 in the division with a win or a loss or 0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.560 anything today. Right, they didn't even get into a tie. Right, 0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.680 but there's the one step closer as the Jets now 0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:50.240 fall to five in three. The Dolphins won today and 0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.640 uh one of the Bills play they played tomorrow tonight? 0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:55.920 Are they're playing to tonight? That is correct? Yeah, they're 0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:57.759 playing Green Bay to night. You're right about that. Um, 0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:00.120 all right, we have we can't take calls because we're 0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:01.720 gonna lose Douce, so we want to take some emails. 0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:04.279 Well you're gonna lose me soon anyway, so all right, yeah, well, 0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:08.000 well we'll kiss Deuce goodbye and um, so we could 0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:12.799 we could take the calls. Um, we can't put him 0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:18.120 on hold, can we? So we can match us? Threw 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:19.560 up his hand. All right, Well we'll try. You know, 0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:23.319 if Mike feels better, you can call back in later. Okay, 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:25.799 let's get to the calls because they've been waiting. All right, 0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:27.600 let's go ahead and do that. We'll start with Eddie, 0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.520 who is in Alabama and has been waiting very very patiently. Eddie, 0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:33.279 thanks for waiting. How you doing all right? How y'all 0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:37.080 doing doing great? All right, Hey, Paul made like half 0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:40.399 my point already. But it's like bigger than what he said. 0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:44.839 Belichick does not like he has no faith in Mac. 0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:47.919 It's like on the on the second drive of the game, 0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:51.920 where you know, they had third and goal from the seventeen, 0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:54.000 they do not throw the ball in the end zone. 0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:57.759 They ran a you know, vermondre for five yards like 0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:02.600 I predicted in my mind before that play, and it 0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.719 was like I didn't have a huge problem with that one. 0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:09.279 But yeah, I mean in the in the scope of 0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:14.320 the game, when they clearly had exhibited, UM several times 0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:17.280 that they weren't thrilled with the way that things were going. Yeah, 0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:22.359 I agree. But like it's like psychological too, because like 0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:25.480 he pulled back last game and it was like, you know, 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:27.799 you got to show confidence in him, like let him 0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:30.239 throw the ball into the end zone, yo, Yeah, at 0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:32.000 least have faith that you will throw it out of 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.200 the back of the end zone if no one's open. Right. 0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:37.279 They didn't even do that, right, No, I agree, But 0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.160 I mean I'm just saying from the seventeen, the way 0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:43.719 the pass rush was going the seventeen, you know, third 0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:47.080 and goals a very low percentage of play. Um. But yeah, 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:49.560 I agree with you. I think that he's the way 0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:52.360 that Bill coached today. He coached like a guy. He 0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:55.319 coached the way Robert Sala should have coached. Um. He 0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:59.279 coached like a guy that wasn't really comfortable with his quarterback. Yeah. Yeah, 0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:01.759 Ala did the same thing. I think, like I said, 0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:03.880 we'd still be playing. Yeah, you're right, about that, and 0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:06.680 it's probably been built up nine to nine. Um, Daniel 0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:10.239 is in Springfield. Go ahead, Daniel, all right, Daniel, sorry, 0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:14.160 buddy party, Let's try Big te who was in Florida. 0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:18.319 Go ahead, big Tea. What's up? Guys? What's up? Big Tea? 0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:25.640 Conspiracy theory? I like it. When the Patriots signed Cam 0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:30.360 Newton from twenty twenty one before the draft and Matt 0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:36.839 Jones miraculously dropped a fifteen, don't you think that Belichick 0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:42.800 was thinking one of those running quarterbacks Lance or Fields 0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:47.200 was going to drop to him. I think, well, he 0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:50.120 had every opportunity to take Fields if he wanted to field. 0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:54.279 He was available at eleven. Gone up. But but I'm 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.880 just saying like that, like genius was letting, but Chicago 0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:00.399 went from twenty to eleven, so you ease, he could 0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:03.400 have gone from fifteen to eleven for less than what Chicago. 0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:05.960 So so if you wanted Justin Fields, he was there 0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.680 for the taking. So I don't think they wanted Justin Fields. 0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:14.399 I just had a field and that signing Cam that 0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:16.880 was kind of the going to be their guy that 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:22.759 would teach the new guy coming in. But anyway, I'm 0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:25.520 a Mac guy. I think Mac is fine. Yeah, I 0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:27.719 think they signed Cam just to make sure they had 0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:29.719 a quarterback and if they if they weren't able to 0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:32.760 draft one, you know, I think things would have been different. 0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:34.600 I think Cam would have been there to play. Like, 0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:37.440 there's no guarantee it at fifteen, you were going to 0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:40.640 get one of those quarterbacks, right, So I think they 0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:44.799 signed Cam just in case they weren't able to get one. Um. 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I think 0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:09.560 I think that's what he's thinking. All right, let's go 0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:13.080 to David, who was in New York. Ahead, David, Hey, guys, 0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:18.200 that's a going it's going fair to Midland. Well, uh, 0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:20.960 sorry for the connection issues on Monday and night. You 0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:22.799 missed my Monday and I ran I was about to 0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:26.279 do maybe I spared you, But it's a new week. 0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:29.560 Feels good to beat a division rival, although I still 0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:33.600 feel a bit uneasy overall about the whole the whole situation. 0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:36.880 The takeaways were nice, but it is Zach Wilson that 0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:40.840 we did it against. I'm still not convinced of either 0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:43.600 our offense, especially a red zone offense, and really our 0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:47.759 defense in general. Um, yeah, I'd agree that wasn't really 0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:51.080 a reassuring victory. Yeah, I mean yeah, And I don't 0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:53.279 want to sound overly negative, but it is one of 0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:56.719 those games that it's hard to feel great about other 0:52:56.719 --> 0:53:00.520 than the fact that the season still you know, we 0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:02.359 still have a season. I think if they lost at 0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:05.360 three and five, you know, you'd be hard pressed to 0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:08.120 get back in and given the tough schedule they're going 0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:10.839 to have down the stretch. But it's hard to feel 0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:12.799 great about the way that game unfolded, I know. And 0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:15.120 it's weird because it was a division win, it was 0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:17.719 on the road. It may have saved the season by 0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:19.480 getting him back to four and four, and we're all 0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:21.880 still sitting here going like, well, because here's the thing is, 0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:24.640 And I wasn't the only one that said it. Everybody 0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:26.440 said that the Jets were five and two, but they 0:53:26.440 --> 0:53:28.560 were a fake five and two, and they really didn't 0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:31.080 do anything to deserve it. So you can't, you know, 0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:33.239 in retrospects, say no, that was five and two on 0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:35.560 the road they beat No, you can't say that, because 0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:38.640 the Jets were exactly what they've been. You know, they're 0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:43.200 they're good defensively, and they're they're challenged offensively, and then 0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:45.240 they fell behind and they had to have their quarterback 0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:48.959 throw when he can't and that's why you won the game. Yeah. True, 0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:51.520 is let's go to speed. Who is in Fresno? What's 0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:55.960 up Speed? It's going on? I guess Scepter. Last week 0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:57.920 it was with the Bears. You know, we learned it's 0:53:57.920 --> 0:54:00.839 not like we can beat that team. Maybe now it's 0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:04.759 like we can sometimes beat teams that play badly, which 0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:08.080 is not that great a place to be. I wanted 0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:10.920 to know. It's kind of like a question for fred Um, 0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:14.480 is this is this kind of a moral loss a 0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:17.680 moral loss? No, because that's because I think they had 0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:19.680 to win the game and they did. I understand what 0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:21.799 you're saying, but I'm not I've got a big fan 0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:23.839 of the moral victories and the moral defeats. I mean, 0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:27.520 if this happened against like Carolina, maybe, I mean, I 0:54:27.600 --> 0:54:29.239 just like, I know a lot of people are like 0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:31.480 when they you know, they lose to Green Bay in 0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:33.680 overtime and it's like that was like a win. No, 0:54:33.840 --> 0:54:35.680 well a weird. It's like what the Jets did in 0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:38.040 Green Bay, right, they won. They had more points than 0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:40.200 at the end of the game. And by the way, 0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:43.600 that's why you're behind them. So when you win, like 0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:47.279 it's it's it's there's nothing you don't give it back. Yeah, 0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:48.799 we're just trying to have a little fun with them more. 0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:51.239 It is a stupid concept, but I had one other one. 0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:56.000 Um wi um, he's kind of an amazing story this 0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:59.000 this year. And I'm I'm just asking putting out there 0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:01.200 in the ether, can you guys do like a little 0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:03.640 like deep dive on him or just kind of kind 0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:06.160 of figure out what like interview him or something, figure 0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:08.399 out why it is that he thinks his season has 0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:11.359 been so special. We interviewed him two weeks ago last 0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:12.960 time I was here, he was our player, and I 0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:14.960 asked him I have I didn't ask him exactly that, 0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:16.920 but I said, you know, you're really kind of blown 0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:19.120 up this year. Uh is this? You know? And he's 0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:21.120 a late bloomer too. Dietrich wise, like for his first 0:55:21.120 --> 0:55:25.040 couple of years in the NFL was largely inconsequential. In 0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:27.040 this year, he's been a major factor on that on 0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:31.280 that front, right, Um, all right, let's try uh Maddox, 0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:35.399 who was in Washington? What's up? Maddox? Uh yo? Uh, 0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:40.000 I will say the D line like you were saying. Uh, 0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:42.920 the D line has been absolutely like it has been 0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:46.600 as since I feel like since that Jude On signing 0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:52.319 last year, our d line has just gotten absolutely it's 0:55:52.400 --> 0:55:54.319 it's it's like one of the best in the league. 0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:56.600 I would say, at least to me, I maybe a 0:55:56.880 --> 0:56:00.759 Patriots defensive line still. I mean to me, maybe there's 0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:02.440 a little bit of biased there. But overall, I mean, 0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:05.160 I mean, you do you don't get it, but he's 0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:08.360 leaving the league in sacks, I mean, and then you 0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:10.759 have other people coming off the edge. I mean that's 0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:15.799 a very big upgrading. And um but on offense, like 0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:19.920 our offense is, I feel like there's almost kind of 0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:25.640 like a disconnect between I feel between like the players 0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:27.960 both with the mac Jones and then daily Zappy comes 0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:31.600 back and forth in UM and I feel like that's 0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:36.200 kind of throwing people off. I feel like that if 0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:38.880 you guys get guys kind of get what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:40.719 I hear what you're saying. I don't know if I 0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:42.880 agree that the defensive line is the best in the league. 0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:45.040 I think last week didn't happen apparently, yeah right, I 0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:46.960 mean they didn't do much last year. The defensive line 0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:49.040 couldn't do much against justin fields. I do think they 0:56:49.040 --> 0:56:51.399 played great today, and they've had other examps. They were 0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:54.400 okay today, I thought were good. The Jets. Yeah, no, 0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:56.000 I think they're okay. But the Jets didn't run the 0:56:56.040 --> 0:56:58.279 ball like they ran the ball fifteen times. I think 0:56:58.280 --> 0:57:00.520 when they ran it the Patriots deep of line. I 0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:03.440 think you you called him out to as being on 0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:05.880 the good list, and I would agree with you. M Christian. 0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:09.759 I thought the Jets that the Jets didn't run the 0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:13.840 ball well enough to continue to run it, and I 0:57:13.880 --> 0:57:15.840 think that was because of the Patriots front. But I 0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:19.560 mean the last time we saw them, they got run 0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:22.360 all over and that's three times this year that that's 0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:25.560 happened in eight games. Yeah, I mean, I think Matthew 0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:28.120 Geedon has been an effective pass rusher. I don't really 0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:30.080 look at him as a defensive lineman and look at 0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:32.880 him as more of a linebacker. But that would be 0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:34.840 about it. That would be where where it ends for me. 0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:36.840 I think Dietrich Wise has had a nice season, but 0:57:37.400 --> 0:57:39.480 I don't think you're going to confuse him with some 0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:41.240 of the better players in the game. The Jets are 0:57:41.280 --> 0:57:44.960 also down four starting tackles and Elijah Vera Tucker right 0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:47.760 if you didn't and breecelife. You didn't stop him today. 0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:51.000 You weren't stopping anyone ever. Yeah, that's another good point. Um. 0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:53.840 They're a nice little trick play for the San Francisco 0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:55.760 forty nine ers with a touchdown pass I think from 0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:59.560 Jeff Wilson to Brandon Ayuk to tie that game at 0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:03.160 seven in la very nice. It's still weird to see 0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:06.720 McCaffrey on the Niners, isn't it. That's really weird. Every 0:58:06.720 --> 0:58:08.360 once in a while I get traded or something. He's 0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:09.520 on a new team. You see him in the jersey 0:58:09.560 --> 0:58:11.560 and it's like, really, McCaffrey on the Niners as weird 0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:13.440 as hell to me for some reason. Um, we got 0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:17.439 Duce back with Upduce. Hey, guys, I'm back. Good, glad 0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:20.120 to have you a little while. I know it's a 0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:22.000 grind for all of us today, but hey, credit to us. 0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:23.920 How about putting all us all on the on the 0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:26.640 on the uplift today? You know they should have interviewed 0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:28.640 us after they are you now weird a Dodgers hat? 0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:32.680 What are you doing? Ye? Sorry, I have issues. My 0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:36.800 took was getting too cold, was getting too hot for me. Paul, Oh, okay, 0:58:36.840 --> 0:58:38.480 I didn't have a. I didn't have a handy Danny 0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:41.000 Patriots hat. So you know this is I'll get you 0:58:41.000 --> 0:58:43.200 a Fenwick football hat to wear next week. I'll take 0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:44.800 it outside. I might have to buy a holy Cross 0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:47.360 football hat after that performance yesterday. I don't know if 0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:51.120 you guys talked about that yet. Probably I'm guessing. Um. 0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:54.760 I don't remember talking about that, but I do remember 0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:57.960 earlier in the show due saying that I wouldn't be 0:58:57.960 --> 0:59:01.400 surprised if because I hear that you get mistaken for 0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:04.640 Zolac a lot. Is that correct? Oh? Once? I like 0:59:04.840 --> 0:59:08.360 la once, But yeah I'm not. I'm nowhere near no. 0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:11.080 But you can be if you could go to Vegas 0:59:11.120 --> 0:59:13.440 and be like a zolak impersonator, you know what I mean, 0:59:13.480 --> 0:59:16.640 Like you could wresting right you jump out of a 0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:19.080 plane and you know what I mean. Just you know 0:59:19.120 --> 0:59:21.680 you're the Zolac guy. You could You could do that, definitely, 0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:23.400 you got you got to. I could do parties in 0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:25.840 New England. Hey, It's like I'm Scot lak impersonator. I'll 0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:27.520 come to your party and be like yeah, and I'll 0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:29.880 play you know, Josie while I come out of my car. Yeah, 0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:33.880 pump everybody up, and um, that sounds great. Paul. If 0:59:33.880 --> 0:59:35.400 you were wondering what we talked about when you went 0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:37.200 to to go do your hit there in the pregame, 0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:42.520 it was it was this. It was this, Paul Might 0:59:42.640 --> 0:59:44.800 five five, Pats five hundred is the phone number web 0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:47.920 radio at Patriots dot com. We'll be hearing from Bill 0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:51.160 Belichick in a few minutes. He spoke now for very long. 0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:53.400 I think he only spoke for a few minutes, four minutes. 0:59:53.440 --> 0:59:55.960 So yeah, when we when we're able to, will we'll 0:59:55.960 --> 0:59:58.160 throw to that and uh and hear from him. Will 0:59:58.200 --> 0:59:59.960 also hear from Mac Jones. I'd be interested in you 1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:01.919 what he thinks about this game and how he played today. 1:00:01.920 --> 1:00:03.480 I mean, I don't think you get a win, you 1:00:03.480 --> 1:00:05.840 feel good about that, but you know, he continued, it 1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:09.000 wasn't his fault, but he continued his interception streak. Um, 1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:11.600 he was outplayed in a lot of way. Let's pump 1:00:11.680 --> 1:00:13.560 the brakes on. It wasn't his fault that he didn't 1:00:14.160 --> 1:00:17.360 He did his best, He did his best to throw three. Well, yeah, sure, 1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:20.560 but I'm saying the actual interception, Yeah, the actual interception 1:00:21.000 --> 1:00:22.800 on him. I thought, yeah, it was more on him, 1:00:22.840 --> 1:00:25.760 but like I think Deuce's point earlier about his pocket 1:00:25.800 --> 1:00:29.080 awareness today, the fumble was on him, you know, not 1:00:29.160 --> 1:00:31.479 every strip sack is the fault of the offensive line, 1:00:31.480 --> 1:00:34.240 and that fumble was totally avoidable. Yeah, I think his 1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:36.320 presence in the pocket. I think Mike made a really 1:00:36.360 --> 1:00:39.120 good point about that earlier. There was one play the 1:00:39.200 --> 1:00:42.360 question yes ahead, just when he threw that pick stick. 1:00:42.520 --> 1:00:44.880 I mean, did you lose your mind like I did? 1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:47.720 I just I couldn't believe that that play. I thought 1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:49.840 Bailey Zappy would play the second half Mike, and I'm 1:00:49.880 --> 1:00:53.680 not kidding. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, It's just it's too much 1:00:53.680 --> 1:00:56.160 of that. It's continuing. I mean it's been that way 1:00:56.200 --> 1:00:59.040 through the season. I don't get why he's got these 1:00:59.040 --> 1:01:00.880 brain parts now. And I mean we can talk about 1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:02.920 pushing the ball down the field and all this kind 1:01:02.960 --> 1:01:05.280 of stuff, but like what happened to Mac Jones the 1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:08.280 last year, who just made better decisions, Like, you know, 1:01:08.280 --> 1:01:11.080 I don't need to get all caught up in the 1:01:11.200 --> 1:01:14.080 new show. Yeah, and today wasn't. And to you a 1:01:14.160 --> 1:01:16.760 point like, today wasn't like oh we're chucking it all 1:01:16.760 --> 1:01:19.840 over the place, we're going downfield. Everything was underneath today 1:01:19.840 --> 1:01:22.320 and that pick. You know, the pick six was just 1:01:22.400 --> 1:01:24.640 an out. I mean it wasn't like a you know, 1:01:24.680 --> 1:01:28.600 a downfield shot play or anything like that. Like he's 1:01:28.760 --> 1:01:30.800 fighting through whatever. You know. I don't know what the 1:01:30.800 --> 1:01:33.400 reasons are. I'm not smart enough to know, you know, 1:01:33.520 --> 1:01:35.960 the ins and outs as to what's going on. But 1:01:36.080 --> 1:01:39.960 he's not comfortable, and I don't think every looked settled 1:01:40.000 --> 1:01:41.840 in that game today. No, I don't think so either. 1:01:41.880 --> 1:01:44.000 And one thing about having a second year quarterback who 1:01:44.040 --> 1:01:46.640 was a pro bowler in the first year is that 1:01:47.160 --> 1:01:50.160 you really start looking for improvement in progression in the 1:01:50.200 --> 1:01:52.040 second year. And even with this win, I feel like 1:01:52.080 --> 1:01:54.560 there was no improvement, no real progression. He's the same guy, 1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:56.120 if not maybe a little worse than he was last 1:01:56.160 --> 1:01:58.040 year because of the injury and the new coaches and 1:01:58.040 --> 1:02:01.040 the new offense and all that stuff. But not one time, 1:02:01.200 --> 1:02:03.480 really even one quarter this year, have I looked at 1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:05.840 mac Jones and thought, man, he's really taking that next step, 1:02:05.840 --> 1:02:09.800 He's really improving, He's really becoming the quarterback that can 1:02:09.920 --> 1:02:11.720 lead this team into the next generation. Like I just 1:02:11.800 --> 1:02:14.640 it's no, there's been no indication of that this year. Yeah, 1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:17.040 we were talking about but like you hoped, like coming 1:02:17.040 --> 1:02:19.800 into the season, you know, coming into the preseason in 1:02:19.840 --> 1:02:21.280 the summer, and you're watching it. All right, it's a 1:02:21.280 --> 1:02:23.600 little punky right now, but like, all right, they're doing 1:02:23.640 --> 1:02:25.920 it to get to a place where they need to be. 1:02:25.960 --> 1:02:28.640 And I still generally agree that you can't just run 1:02:29.000 --> 1:02:30.960 short stuff and think that you're going to be able 1:02:30.960 --> 1:02:34.840 to compete in this NFL. But it's just the lack 1:02:34.880 --> 1:02:37.600 of progression, the lack of identity on offense, the lack 1:02:37.640 --> 1:02:40.680 of anything other than they're just grinding it out at 1:02:40.760 --> 1:02:43.880 four point two yards to play, and that's what it's like. 1:02:44.000 --> 1:02:46.760 Down sixteen plays to go sixty yards. I mean, it's 1:02:46.760 --> 1:02:49.480 just too much. And I don't know what the answer is. 1:02:49.520 --> 1:02:52.640 I don't know what pieces you pull out of this 1:02:52.640 --> 1:02:55.400 whole game and say, oh, this is what we can 1:02:55.440 --> 1:02:58.080 build off of. I mean, other than Ramondras Stevenson, it's like, man, 1:02:58.200 --> 1:03:00.919 you're just you're just hoping to survive your own passing game. 1:03:02.040 --> 1:03:04.000 We were talking about during the game, even when he 1:03:04.040 --> 1:03:06.800 had a pocket and had rohim to throw, you know, 1:03:06.840 --> 1:03:08.440 there was only a few of those plays, but when 1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:10.840 he had him, he was still fading away, still off 1:03:10.840 --> 1:03:14.200 the back foot, still floating a lot, and you know, 1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:16.200 guys were open, Guys were there. I heard Mike say 1:03:16.240 --> 1:03:18.680 that earlier. The plays were there to be made, and 1:03:18.760 --> 1:03:21.520 he's just so uncomfortable and so in his own head 1:03:21.720 --> 1:03:24.919 that he's just not making them. And it's it's infuriating 1:03:24.960 --> 1:03:28.560 to watch because the plays are there to be made 1:03:28.640 --> 1:03:31.720 and he's just not making them. Yeah, there was one play. 1:03:31.840 --> 1:03:34.080 We talked about this when it happened. You were talking 1:03:34.120 --> 1:03:36.440 about his pocket presence and like feeling the pressure. There 1:03:36.480 --> 1:03:37.840 was one play where there was a guy coming right 1:03:37.880 --> 1:03:39.720 at him and he just did holding the ball. That 1:03:39.720 --> 1:03:41.600 was the fumble that the Yeah, I mean that was 1:03:41.680 --> 1:03:43.840 um faked with a guy coming right in front of him. 1:03:43.880 --> 1:03:46.520 He pump faked. I don't know what Mac's peripheral vision 1:03:46.560 --> 1:03:49.160 situation is like, apparently not good. How could you not 1:03:49.240 --> 1:03:51.080 see that he's right here, he's right on his on 1:03:51.120 --> 1:03:53.400 his hip. Yeah, And on one hand, you'd like to say, well, 1:03:53.400 --> 1:03:56.000 that's a good job of keeping your eyes focused downfield 1:03:56.040 --> 1:03:58.400 and not watching the rushes, but you have to have 1:03:58.440 --> 1:04:00.960 some awareness and when the ball, when you can't put 1:04:00.960 --> 1:04:03.560 the ball in harm's way. That was very fortunate, you know, 1:04:03.920 --> 1:04:07.680 not only the Patriots end up recovering that, but that 1:04:07.720 --> 1:04:09.640 could have been like it's scorts free. When when you 1:04:09.680 --> 1:04:12.120 get fumbles like that to go behind the quarterback, there's 1:04:12.160 --> 1:04:15.080 no one there that's one that can get picked up 1:04:15.080 --> 1:04:17.040 and scooped, you know and going the other way in 1:04:17.040 --> 1:04:20.400 a hurry. M Fortunately, I think, you know, for the Patriots, 1:04:20.440 --> 1:04:22.000 they were able. One of the linemen was able to 1:04:22.800 --> 1:04:24.720 get on it. But this is what I said, like, 1:04:24.800 --> 1:04:30.160 you know, it's protect the ball, right, no turnovers, like 1:04:30.560 --> 1:04:32.520 they only turn it over once, but not for a 1:04:32.600 --> 1:04:35.160 lack of trying. Those are plays where the quarterback gets 1:04:35.240 --> 1:04:38.960 knocked out sometimes too. He wasn't he didn't see the 1:04:38.960 --> 1:04:42.280 front side rush and we've killed other quarterbacks for that 1:04:42.440 --> 1:04:45.240 on this very show. And he got hit hard. It 1:04:45.400 --> 1:04:48.200 just hit him the right way. But he's been very 1:04:48.240 --> 1:04:50.360 loose with the ball and it's it's continuing. It's not 1:04:50.400 --> 1:04:52.280 getting any better, and they got to figure that out 1:04:52.320 --> 1:04:55.000 because it's gonna it's gonna cost him eventually. They can't. 1:04:55.840 --> 1:04:58.440 I don't know that they've been lucky for what twenty 1:04:58.480 --> 1:05:00.520 two years now, but eventually that looks gonna run out. 1:05:00.560 --> 1:05:03.400 You're gonna yea yeah, I mean that that's that's a 1:05:03.480 --> 1:05:06.360 huge play in the game. Um. We talked about how 1:05:06.800 --> 1:05:09.280 Mac really zeroed in on Stevenson and Myers. You could 1:05:09.280 --> 1:05:12.560 say the same thing about Zack Wilson with Wilson and Conklin. 1:05:13.120 --> 1:05:16.120 In fact, Elijah Moore after the game, who was targeted 1:05:16.120 --> 1:05:18.120 once and did not come up with a catch, was 1:05:18.160 --> 1:05:21.160 asked about his chemistry with Jets quarterback Zach Wilson and said, 1:05:21.600 --> 1:05:25.000 I don't get the ball. I don't know. Yeah. See 1:05:25.080 --> 1:05:28.200 this is this is the difference. Yeah, this is the 1:05:28.200 --> 1:05:31.920 difference between the New York media and most others. Yeah. Um, 1:05:31.960 --> 1:05:35.280 you know around here that that wouldn't even like would 1:05:35.400 --> 1:05:37.720 would have been a thing like this is a guy 1:05:37.760 --> 1:05:40.280 who expressed his displeasure a couple of weeks ago and 1:05:40.320 --> 1:05:41.920 then went out and was barely a part of the 1:05:41.960 --> 1:05:46.880 offense with their with their top receiver out, Um, and 1:05:47.000 --> 1:05:50.280 they immediately go to him like y, So what did 1:05:50.320 --> 1:05:52.959 you think get your involvement today? It's just like New York, 1:05:53.160 --> 1:05:57.800 only New York. Yeah. I love Elijah more, but there's 1:05:57.920 --> 1:06:00.160 no denying the fact that the last couple of games 1:06:00.320 --> 1:06:01.840 he hasn't been a part of it. He was getting 1:06:01.840 --> 1:06:04.520 targeted a lot early now he's not even a part 1:06:04.520 --> 1:06:08.040 of the offense. Of course, maybe he was in the 1:06:08.040 --> 1:06:12.120 general vicinity and some of those throwaways that went to mccordy. Ah, yeah, 1:06:12.160 --> 1:06:14.320 it could have been. Devin mccordy had two of the 1:06:14.320 --> 1:06:17.959 easiest interceptions of all time. I mean really just standing there. Yeah, 1:06:17.960 --> 1:06:21.200 we talked about behind the five yards behind where the 1:06:21.240 --> 1:06:23.200 past was supposed to go. And I gotta be honest, 1:06:23.280 --> 1:06:25.560 I'm not even sure how much I want to credit him, Um, 1:06:25.800 --> 1:06:28.880 you know, with with the picks. But yeah, I mean 1:06:29.120 --> 1:06:32.880 you had two picks and you know, they really even lead, 1:06:33.240 --> 1:06:35.400 They really didn't even lead to anything. I believe Devin 1:06:35.480 --> 1:06:39.720 mccordy now is the active interception leader. Yeah, he passed 1:06:39.720 --> 1:06:41.360 Marcus Peters because I know on the first one they 1:06:41.400 --> 1:06:44.760 put the graphic up that he tied with Marcus Peters 1:06:44.760 --> 1:06:47.280 for the most want to sign him. He thought he 1:06:47.320 --> 1:06:52.200 was too old. You're too old, you know what. Mccordy 1:06:52.240 --> 1:06:54.280 was asked about being the active leader and he said, 1:06:54.320 --> 1:06:57.480 I'm just old. Yeah, I'm not sure he was in 1:06:57.480 --> 1:06:59.760 bounds on the second one either. Um, yeah, I don't 1:06:59.760 --> 1:07:01.280 think he was either that left foot. I think that 1:07:01.360 --> 1:07:05.160 left with that sideline. This is another this is another 1:07:05.200 --> 1:07:07.320 bake sale game, you know when Bill says, maybe we 1:07:07.320 --> 1:07:09.000 can have a bake sale and raise some money so 1:07:09.040 --> 1:07:13.200 they can have more cameras. Um, all right, let's see 1:07:13.560 --> 1:07:15.640 eight five five Pats five hundred the phone number web 1:07:15.760 --> 1:07:17.800 radio at Patriots dot com if you would like to 1:07:17.840 --> 1:07:21.040 email in again. We're waiting on Bill Belichick and uh, 1:07:21.080 --> 1:07:23.480 well we'll hear from him and from Mac Jones in 1:07:23.720 --> 1:07:29.200 just a little bit. Um. The uh, the interceptions, the turnovers, 1:07:29.760 --> 1:07:31.680 all of that. I mean, we talked about how we 1:07:31.680 --> 1:07:33.880 don't feel great about the offense. Was this the type 1:07:33.880 --> 1:07:35.640 of game where you feel great about the defense? Don't 1:07:35.640 --> 1:07:37.400 feel like you really feel great about anything, even the 1:07:37.440 --> 1:07:40.280 defense holding them to seventeen points. Oh, it's like I said, 1:07:40.280 --> 1:07:42.480 defensive the numbers are gonna look really good. But I 1:07:42.480 --> 1:07:45.080 don't think they played all that great. Yeah, I mean 1:07:45.120 --> 1:07:47.720 they weren't bad. I don't think they were bad defensively today, 1:07:47.760 --> 1:07:50.600 But I don't think this was like Detroit. Right. You 1:07:50.640 --> 1:07:52.480 know when you shut down a bad offense, you know, 1:07:52.480 --> 1:07:54.760 you shut down an offense. This is an offense that 1:07:54.800 --> 1:07:56.840 can't move the ball, and they move the ball today. 1:07:57.640 --> 1:08:01.640 It's never goody Sorry that one drive that I think 1:08:01.640 --> 1:08:03.360 it was the second and third drive that was just 1:08:03.840 --> 1:08:06.280 an all third drive right down the field, bing bang boom, 1:08:06.320 --> 1:08:08.800 and the cuts. I mean that one was that was 1:08:08.840 --> 1:08:10.640 not good. That one, that one was I wanted to 1:08:10.680 --> 1:08:12.240 get the taste out of my mouth. I mean, they 1:08:12.320 --> 1:08:13.960 did write the ship. But I think it's one of 1:08:13.960 --> 1:08:19.639 those games where unfortunately for them, they're top offensive lineman's out, 1:08:19.760 --> 1:08:23.479 they're superstar and budding rookie running back is out. I mean, 1:08:23.520 --> 1:08:25.880 it's just it's hard to take a lot out of 1:08:25.920 --> 1:08:27.400 this game. And I mean, I know next week will 1:08:27.439 --> 1:08:29.840 probably be somewhat of the same. Maybe we'll see about 1:08:29.920 --> 1:08:32.320 Jonathan Taylor, but you know, not a lot they could 1:08:32.320 --> 1:08:34.720 prove in this one. I My questions are all kind 1:08:34.720 --> 1:08:36.559 of still on the board, and I think Paul nailed 1:08:36.560 --> 1:08:38.960 it with the stuff about the second area and just 1:08:39.000 --> 1:08:40.640 you know, some of the coverage stuff, and you know 1:08:40.640 --> 1:08:43.320 that it's just for a spell there. Early on in 1:08:43.360 --> 1:08:45.760 the season, I felt like, Wow, I hit a point 1:08:45.840 --> 1:08:47.479 where I'm like, the coverage is good. You know, like 1:08:47.520 --> 1:08:49.720 they seem like they're just they're competitive. They're not great, 1:08:49.720 --> 1:08:51.800 but they're competitive. They're always there. Everything's got to be 1:08:52.240 --> 1:08:54.280 bang bang plays to get them, and I don't think 1:08:54.320 --> 1:08:57.240 that's been really the case the last few weeks. All Right, 1:08:57.320 --> 1:09:00.120 without any further ado, this man passed George hall Us 1:09:00.680 --> 1:09:02.600 and is now the second all time and wins for 1:09:02.800 --> 1:09:05.160 head coaches in the NFL. Bill Belichick from the podium. 1:09:05.240 --> 1:09:10.200 You know, the typical tough division game down here, and uh, yeah, 1:09:10.280 --> 1:09:12.360 give it Jets a lot of credit. Um, it's a 1:09:12.400 --> 1:09:15.920 good football team. Really played well defensively. They give us, 1:09:16.479 --> 1:09:20.040 you know, plenty of problems, trouble at last quarter and 1:09:20.040 --> 1:09:23.240 a half. Really um doing much, really well, coached a 1:09:23.280 --> 1:09:26.760 good front and Mosley. You know, it was all over 1:09:26.800 --> 1:09:28.640 the field. I don't know how many tackles yet, it 1:09:28.680 --> 1:09:32.480 seemed like must have about fifteen or twenty. But um, 1:09:32.600 --> 1:09:35.639 you know, but we hung in there and um got 1:09:35.800 --> 1:09:38.960 got some enough players out of all three units offense, defense, 1:09:39.000 --> 1:09:44.360 special teams, and some big turnovers defensively and hit a 1:09:44.400 --> 1:09:47.320 big play by pept cover the onside kick. And it 1:09:47.360 --> 1:09:50.400 was a kind of played they be Cleveland with I 1:09:50.439 --> 1:09:53.280 think it was in week two somewhere back there. Um, 1:09:53.360 --> 1:09:57.559 so good good division went on the road and uh, 1:09:58.280 --> 1:10:01.519 you know, good good Jets team. Uh they they do 1:10:01.560 --> 1:10:05.240 a good job, and I guess that defensively, they're they're tough. 1:10:05.280 --> 1:10:07.640 We knew that coming in and they certainly played to it. 1:10:08.600 --> 1:10:11.080 So good to you know, good to get out of 1:10:11.080 --> 1:10:14.840 here with the win, the vision and un we'll move on. 1:10:15.000 --> 1:10:18.280 But um, proud of the way the team, you know, 1:10:18.320 --> 1:10:20.559 stepped up on a short week here and you know, 1:10:20.640 --> 1:10:23.800 came in and got the win today. So what did 1:10:23.840 --> 1:10:25.840 you see from Mac in the offense? It looked like 1:10:25.920 --> 1:10:27.400 that had a lot of fight, especially to start that 1:10:27.520 --> 1:10:30.800 third quarter and come out. Yeah. I mean it's a big, 1:10:30.960 --> 1:10:33.360 big halftime swing, really ten point swing for us. We 1:10:33.439 --> 1:10:34.599 got the field goal at the end of the first 1:10:34.640 --> 1:10:38.480 half on a last play and then and then uh 1:10:38.640 --> 1:10:41.760 you know, start a third quarter with points. So you know, 1:10:41.800 --> 1:10:43.639 I thought Matt did a good job today. We got 1:10:43.640 --> 1:10:47.719 the ball out quickly. Um, we had gave up some pressure, 1:10:47.720 --> 1:10:49.120 but I thought he did a good job taking care 1:10:49.120 --> 1:10:53.120 of the ball. I mean, Stevenson obviously is um you know, 1:10:53.240 --> 1:10:56.679 just just tremendous back and makes a lot of yards 1:10:56.800 --> 1:10:58.439 you know, on his own, like nice all the yards 1:10:58.439 --> 1:11:00.400 after contact. But I thought Mac did it, did a 1:11:00.439 --> 1:11:04.360 great job. Stevenson, Jacobe, Um, you know, some guys really 1:11:04.360 --> 1:11:07.040 step up for us and and uh, you know, make 1:11:07.320 --> 1:11:10.559 some plays offensively that that we needed, you know, and 1:11:10.560 --> 1:11:13.360 then again good good team defensive effort all the way around. 1:11:13.360 --> 1:11:15.840 We had a lot of pass rush, turn the ball over, 1:11:16.720 --> 1:11:21.280 tackled better, gave a couple of big plays. But like 1:11:21.320 --> 1:11:24.120 other than those, we you know, played played pretty competitively. 1:11:24.320 --> 1:11:27.400 So good fourth quarter team. You know, nobody's better than 1:11:27.520 --> 1:11:29.240 Jets are in the fourth quarter. So hanging there with 1:11:29.280 --> 1:11:31.400 them in the fourth quarter was you know, we knew 1:11:31.439 --> 1:11:33.600 that was gonna be a challenge, and um it was, 1:11:33.800 --> 1:11:36.080 but you know, we we stepped up to it. So 1:11:36.240 --> 1:11:40.400 that was that was good. Bill. You recorded victory three 1:11:40.479 --> 1:11:42.559 twenty five, number two off. What does that mean to you? 1:11:42.600 --> 1:11:45.639 Just to be a part of history. Yeah, I'm able 1:11:45.640 --> 1:11:47.479 to talk about that when it's over, you know, add 1:11:47.520 --> 1:11:49.360 him up at the end here or whatever. But it's 1:11:49.360 --> 1:11:50.880 good to come down here and win, happy for our 1:11:50.920 --> 1:11:54.200 team and and appreciate all though. You know, great players 1:11:54.240 --> 1:11:55.880 we've had that that I've won those games. You know, 1:11:55.880 --> 1:11:58.080 I had a couple of minute locker room there besides 1:11:58.120 --> 1:12:01.759 our players, you know, guys like Accordions Layer, Omeo, Troy Brown, 1:12:01.960 --> 1:12:04.439 those guys won a lot of games for for us 1:12:04.439 --> 1:12:11.040 for me. So, um, certainly those are team wins special 1:12:11.240 --> 1:12:14.720 special teams today seemed like other than maybe the one 1:12:14.720 --> 1:12:17.240 player where the touch back. Um, would you think of 1:12:17.240 --> 1:12:19.479 the performance? Yeah? Well Nick was you know, Nick was 1:12:19.520 --> 1:12:22.120 great as usual. Um put it right down the middle. 1:12:22.160 --> 1:12:25.880 Thought we covered well had you know, Marks did a 1:12:25.880 --> 1:12:27.760 good job of the ball handling, got an explosive plan 1:12:27.840 --> 1:12:31.040 upunt return. UM, got a good plan to kickoff return 1:12:31.120 --> 1:12:34.720 on the miss hit kickoff. Uh, got it back up 1:12:34.760 --> 1:12:37.720 to the thirty five whatever it was. So U thought 1:12:37.760 --> 1:12:40.760 we took advantage of some opportunities and you know it 1:12:40.840 --> 1:12:44.320 was again that's best special teams unit in the league. Um. 1:12:44.600 --> 1:12:48.400 The Jets statistically, Uh, and they they played to it. 1:12:48.439 --> 1:12:50.559 They're tough. But I thought we stepped up there and 1:12:51.200 --> 1:12:53.160 like I said, they you know, battle them and and 1:12:53.240 --> 1:12:55.080 made our share plays in the game. Could you tell 1:12:55.120 --> 1:12:57.760 if Jack got his hands on that field goal that 1:12:57.840 --> 1:13:05.160 they missed or I couldn't tell him? Mile is Mike clear? Sorry? 1:13:05.200 --> 1:13:08.120 When when you think about Mac handling the pressure that 1:13:08.160 --> 1:13:11.160 he was on Earth today, is it are you always 1:13:11.160 --> 1:13:14.200 impressed like with the toughness physically speaking, or is it 1:13:14.240 --> 1:13:16.120 more like the decision making that he's doing in those 1:13:16.120 --> 1:13:19.320 are tuations. Decisions for sure, Yeah, decisions are sure. Max tough. 1:13:19.320 --> 1:13:21.760 There isn't there anything about the Max tough kid. But 1:13:21.800 --> 1:13:23.680 I thought he made good decisions. Manage the game well, 1:13:23.760 --> 1:13:27.639 manage our team well, um, and that's what a quarterback 1:13:27.760 --> 1:13:29.720 jobs to do, is to help the team win. That's 1:13:29.760 --> 1:13:37.280 what he did. Okay, right, thank you? All right, Okay, 1:13:37.320 --> 1:13:39.519 there you go. That was Bill Belichick after the game 1:13:39.640 --> 1:13:43.000 from complimentary words there for Mac Jones, who didn't have 1:13:43.040 --> 1:13:45.640 a great game by any means, but certainly complimenting his 1:13:45.720 --> 1:13:49.880 toughness and his ability to sort of manage the game, 1:13:49.920 --> 1:13:51.360 which I didn't. I mean, he was tough. He took 1:13:51.360 --> 1:13:53.519 a couple of pops, and I definitely think he bounced 1:13:53.600 --> 1:13:56.000 right back from those. Yeah. I wasn't thinking with Bill 1:13:56.000 --> 1:13:58.360 like I know his toughness. You know, I don't question 1:13:58.400 --> 1:14:00.960 his toughness, but I do question is to asion making today. Yeah, 1:14:00.960 --> 1:14:02.600 and the game management and all that, I thought that 1:14:02.680 --> 1:14:06.400 was all pretty questionable. But I do get the sense. 1:14:06.439 --> 1:14:08.400 And maybe I'm just you know, reading too far into 1:14:08.439 --> 1:14:11.280 it with Bill, I probably am that this is the 1:14:11.320 --> 1:14:13.080 direction he's gone. I don't think we're gonna see he's 1:14:13.080 --> 1:14:14.960 happy again for a while. I think he's going to 1:14:15.320 --> 1:14:18.920 have Mac out there and stick with him. And now 1:14:18.960 --> 1:14:20.880 that he's healthy and there's no reason to sort of, 1:14:21.120 --> 1:14:23.360 you know, go back and forth anymore. I think it's 1:14:23.360 --> 1:14:25.679 all about building up max confidence, which they probably should 1:14:25.680 --> 1:14:27.360 have started a long time ago. But now here we 1:14:27.360 --> 1:14:29.880 are better late than never. Yeah, Like I said, I 1:14:30.000 --> 1:14:32.799 think that things could have gone a dramatically different direction 1:14:32.840 --> 1:14:35.280 at the end of the first half that picks six 1:14:35.520 --> 1:14:39.400 and then Bill's immediate response to that, because then they 1:14:39.760 --> 1:14:41.840 got down and they got a holding call which pushed 1:14:41.880 --> 1:14:46.240 him back and it was dive, dive, kneel on the ball, 1:14:46.640 --> 1:14:49.120 kick a field goal. That told you right there that 1:14:49.160 --> 1:14:52.240 Bill was shook a little bit because I think that 1:14:52.280 --> 1:14:55.280 those calls. I think Bill says to Matt Patricia at 1:14:55.280 --> 1:14:58.839 that point, let's take the points here, not nothing stupid, 1:14:58.960 --> 1:15:03.640 Let's let's just take the points. So, I mean, I 1:15:03.640 --> 1:15:06.400 don't know. I didn't see a lot of great decisions today. 1:15:06.439 --> 1:15:08.120 I saw some. I'm not saying I didn't see any. 1:15:08.120 --> 1:15:10.360 I didn't see a lot of great decisions under pressure today. 1:15:10.560 --> 1:15:12.040 I thought he did a good job a couple of 1:15:12.040 --> 1:15:15.200 times climbing the pocket moving around buying some time, but 1:15:15.479 --> 1:15:18.519 I saw other times where he looked affected by the 1:15:18.520 --> 1:15:22.920 pass rush and um and reacted accordingly. This is kind 1:15:22.920 --> 1:15:25.120 of a weird hypothetical, But if Zappy played in this game, 1:15:25.160 --> 1:15:27.920 how do you think he would have done with that pressure? Yeah, 1:15:28.040 --> 1:15:30.400 I think it could have been really really ugly. Sure 1:15:30.479 --> 1:15:32.479 if it's the same. Like, I don't know, Like I 1:15:32.520 --> 1:15:34.200 think he deals with pressure a little bit better. Though. 1:15:34.240 --> 1:15:36.280 I think he would have gotten sacked fifteen times today. Wow, 1:15:36.280 --> 1:15:37.960 that would have been better than throwing it away. I mean, 1:15:38.000 --> 1:15:40.080 I don't know. I guess I think he would have 1:15:40.080 --> 1:15:41.720 taken a lot more sacks than Mac did. I think 1:15:41.800 --> 1:15:45.040 Mac did a good job of moving around at times. Um, 1:15:45.080 --> 1:15:47.200 I feel like Zappy gets the ball out faster. He's 1:15:47.240 --> 1:15:49.920 a little bit more, a little bit more anti bag. 1:15:50.560 --> 1:15:52.599 You're a rappy guy, I'm not. I don't think Zappy 1:15:52.680 --> 1:15:54.640 does anything better than Man. Well, I'm not. I'm not 1:15:54.680 --> 1:15:56.880 a play zappy guy. I'm just talking about, you know, 1:15:56.960 --> 1:15:59.960 in terms of getting the ball out quickly. I feel 1:16:00.160 --> 1:16:02.680 in the games that he's played, I've I've noticed that 1:16:02.720 --> 1:16:04.280 I thought Mac held onto the ball a lot in 1:16:04.280 --> 1:16:05.760 this game, and that's why where a lot of those 1:16:05.760 --> 1:16:08.200 sacks game from Yeah, I think that the plays that 1:16:08.320 --> 1:16:12.080 Mac runs are designed for just one real quick get 1:16:12.080 --> 1:16:14.400 it out throws. All right, we're gonna take a quick 1:16:14.400 --> 1:16:15.960 break here. Then we'll get back to your phone calls 1:16:15.960 --> 1:16:18.920 at eight five five Pats five hundred First Patriots fans, 1:16:18.920 --> 1:16:20.880 I'm here to tell you about NFL All Day. 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Here, here's Christian Arcan. 1:20:02.920 --> 1:20:06.479 All right, it's Patriots postgame presented by Cyber Reason. Patriots 1:20:06.560 --> 1:20:09.000 knock off the Jets twenty two seventeen on the road 1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:11.479 to improve to four and four on the season, three 1:20:11.479 --> 1:20:14.920 and two away from Gillette. Um weird, they've only played 1:20:14.960 --> 1:20:17.920 three games here. Meanwhile, the Jets dropped to five and three, 1:20:18.000 --> 1:20:20.920 just one and three at MetLife Stadium. You just heard 1:20:20.960 --> 1:20:22.519 the number. Let's get to some phone calls. What do 1:20:22.560 --> 1:20:25.200 you say at eight five to five, Pat's five hundred. 1:20:25.280 --> 1:20:29.679 Let's go diplomatically here, it looks like Mitch in Frisco, Frisco, Texas, 1:20:29.720 --> 1:20:31.519 that is, has been waiting the longest, So let's go 1:20:31.520 --> 1:20:38.200 to him, Mitch, how you doing, Hey, guys, Hey, Yeah, 1:20:38.240 --> 1:20:40.240 I had had a question for you guys. You know, 1:20:40.320 --> 1:20:42.920 been watching the team now for for eight games, and 1:20:43.080 --> 1:20:46.559 kind of every week it seems like something new pops 1:20:46.640 --> 1:20:50.200 up that's an issue that has to be resolved, whether 1:20:50.240 --> 1:20:55.280 that's TV play turnovers, mistakes, coaching, play calling, in any 1:20:55.320 --> 1:20:57.240 of the above. But would be curious to know your 1:20:57.240 --> 1:21:01.760 guys thoughts on what is the biggest verity between us 1:21:01.800 --> 1:21:04.000 and even just the teams in the division? Do you 1:21:04.000 --> 1:21:06.679 guys think and I'll take it off the line, Well, 1:21:06.720 --> 1:21:08.479 it depends what team you're talking about. I didn't really 1:21:08.520 --> 1:21:10.559 understand there. Yeah, like that to decide for that one. 1:21:10.600 --> 1:21:12.879 The biggest difference between the Patriots and say, the Dolphins, 1:21:12.880 --> 1:21:15.840 I guess is like offensive firepar explosiveness. With the Bills, 1:21:15.880 --> 1:21:18.400 it's everything, you know, like the better at everything. And 1:21:18.680 --> 1:21:20.479 with the Jets, I don't know. I mean I kind 1:21:20.479 --> 1:21:22.040 of feel like the Jets and the Patriots are not 1:21:22.080 --> 1:21:23.360 too far off from each other. Yeah, I think the 1:21:23.439 --> 1:21:25.560 Jets and Patriots are very similar teams, except for the 1:21:25.640 --> 1:21:28.080 Jets are very young, right and I've had some really 1:21:28.080 --> 1:21:30.320 good drafts lately, which the Patriots were still sort of 1:21:30.320 --> 1:21:32.040 finding out. But I mean the Jets, I would say 1:21:32.120 --> 1:21:36.040 Miami is much more explosive. The Bills are much more 1:21:36.080 --> 1:21:40.320 balanced and explosive. Um yeah, and just I guess all 1:21:40.320 --> 1:21:42.240 around better. And the Jets. I mean, the Jets have 1:21:42.479 --> 1:21:45.200 a lot of good young players, but a lot of 1:21:45.240 --> 1:21:47.559 them are hurt right now, and you know a lot 1:21:47.600 --> 1:21:50.240 of them didn't play in this game. Let's go to Moises, 1:21:50.320 --> 1:21:57.439 who was in Connecticut. Hey, Moises, is this all right? Moises? 1:21:57.479 --> 1:22:00.519 We're gonna pop you on hold and let's see who 1:22:00.520 --> 1:22:03.080 gets that line. That would be the Seaun in Virginia. 1:22:03.120 --> 1:22:06.519 Holod to Sean in Virginia. Hello, how's it going, guys? 1:22:06.560 --> 1:22:10.920 What's up? Nothing much? I don't want to speak on 1:22:10.920 --> 1:22:13.040 one thing that could be very very constant. That's the 1:22:13.160 --> 1:22:17.280 offense struggling. I can't really see too much more happening 1:22:17.760 --> 1:22:20.080 to because you can't really train the personnel right now. 1:22:20.720 --> 1:22:22.840 I mean the grind weekend and week outfence offen to 1:22:22.840 --> 1:22:26.240 get anything going systematically, it's corectly to get things going. 1:22:28.240 --> 1:22:34.160 Um yeah, what's that? I'd say everything has to be 1:22:34.240 --> 1:22:37.160 schemed in order to get these players open. Yeah, you 1:22:37.200 --> 1:22:39.360 can't trying. These players are like age go out and 1:22:39.360 --> 1:22:41.320 to make a play for me. Well, they're also having 1:22:41.320 --> 1:22:43.280 a hard time getting the ball to the guys too, 1:22:43.400 --> 1:22:46.240 let's not I think quarterback is part of the issues 1:22:46.280 --> 1:22:48.640 on offense. I mean, I'm I'm not going to sugarcoat 1:22:48.680 --> 1:22:53.679 it here. They've had issues offensively period. Are they scheming 1:22:53.680 --> 1:22:56.000 guys open too? I mean, we were talking about this, 1:22:56.040 --> 1:22:58.000 you guys were talking about it in the pregame. I 1:22:58.040 --> 1:23:00.320 believe one of the callers called it and said, you know, 1:23:00.479 --> 1:23:03.760 trick plays used to be kind of the more part 1:23:03.760 --> 1:23:06.240 of this playbook. You would scheme guys open with some 1:23:06.280 --> 1:23:08.360 trick plays. You would you know, run some rubber outs 1:23:08.400 --> 1:23:10.320 or something. Doesn't seem like much of that is going 1:23:10.360 --> 1:23:12.600 on from what we can see, especially not in the 1:23:12.600 --> 1:23:14.880 trick play department. But at the same time, you can't 1:23:14.880 --> 1:23:19.200 really run trick plays if you can't run your normal plays. Yeah, 1:23:19.240 --> 1:23:22.040 and also when you know your offensive coordinator, who felt 1:23:22.040 --> 1:23:24.160 confident doing that sort of thing is in Las Vegas 1:23:24.200 --> 1:23:27.080 getting shut out today. By the way, Um, it's a 1:23:27.240 --> 1:23:28.880 it's a little bit tougher. I think for guys like 1:23:28.920 --> 1:23:32.680 Patricia and uh and Joe Judge to start getting that 1:23:32.760 --> 1:23:35.000 creative you know, I mean, they do some creative stuff, 1:23:35.000 --> 1:23:36.240 but I don't know if they're I don't know if 1:23:36.240 --> 1:23:38.760 they're ready to start doing flee flickers and you know, 1:23:38.840 --> 1:23:41.160 wide receiver passes and double passes and all that stuff. 1:23:41.200 --> 1:23:43.160 I feel like that was that was Josh's wheelhouse more 1:23:43.200 --> 1:23:45.639 than more than anybody else's. And now you've got two 1:23:45.640 --> 1:23:48.040 guys who you know, were learning on the on the job, 1:23:48.120 --> 1:23:50.160 and I think that's sort of maybe a little bit 1:23:50.160 --> 1:23:52.120 out of their out of their comfort zone if I 1:23:52.160 --> 1:23:55.200 had to, if I had to guess, M eight five five, 1:23:55.240 --> 1:23:57.120 Pats five hundred, that is your phone number. We'll hear 1:23:57.160 --> 1:23:59.920 from Mac Jones in just a few minutes. Mac Jones 1:24:00.040 --> 1:24:02.040 beaking after the game again. I'm interested in hearing how 1:24:02.080 --> 1:24:04.639 he uh he talks about this game and how it went, 1:24:04.640 --> 1:24:07.640 how thin he thinks it went for him. It's been 1:24:07.640 --> 1:24:10.200 a weird season for him, I think all around. I 1:24:10.240 --> 1:24:11.920 feel like every time he comes to the podium, I 1:24:11.960 --> 1:24:13.680 never know what he's gonna say. I never know what 1:24:13.760 --> 1:24:16.160 Moody's gonna be in. I just don't know, Like it's 1:24:16.200 --> 1:24:18.040 it's a it's a mystery, you know, like you never 1:24:18.080 --> 1:24:20.880 really know, and this a tough game anything you know, like, 1:24:21.040 --> 1:24:23.640 how much do you look at Like toward the end 1:24:23.680 --> 1:24:25.880 of the Brady era, we had games like this that 1:24:25.920 --> 1:24:30.680 Brady looked like he just lost fifty four to nothing, right, 1:24:30.760 --> 1:24:32.760 because he knew the offense didn't play very well. He 1:24:32.840 --> 1:24:35.080 knew he didn't play very well, and he knew what 1:24:35.120 --> 1:24:38.040 they were doing wasn't good enough. I don't know where 1:24:38.120 --> 1:24:40.320 Mac Jones is in his career if this was just 1:24:40.680 --> 1:24:42.559 maybe one of those games where he looked at and said, 1:24:42.600 --> 1:24:44.800 you know, it's a tough week for us, a tough 1:24:44.840 --> 1:24:46.880 week for me personally, and we got the win. We 1:24:46.880 --> 1:24:48.080 went on the road and we got the win, and 1:24:48.080 --> 1:24:50.120 that's what we had to have. And maybe that's his 1:24:50.200 --> 1:24:53.160 mentality more so than Brady, who at the time, I'm 1:24:53.160 --> 1:24:56.840 thinking like twenty nineteen in Philadelphia, Yeah, you know, not 1:24:56.960 --> 1:25:00.920 a very good game that they won. I think they 1:25:00.960 --> 1:25:02.800 won seventeen to ten. A game kind of like this 1:25:02.840 --> 1:25:05.240 one where the other team just made more mistakes than 1:25:05.280 --> 1:25:07.519 you did and you ended up winning. I wonder how 1:25:07.720 --> 1:25:10.120 how Mac will we'll handle that? All right? We got 1:25:10.160 --> 1:25:12.160 a couple of emails to read, this one coming from 1:25:12.400 --> 1:25:15.160 Daniel who says, guys, I'm not encouraged about anything. Zach 1:25:15.200 --> 1:25:17.360 Wilson and the refs handed us this win and just barely. 1:25:17.520 --> 1:25:19.479 The team is in no man's land, and I really 1:25:19.479 --> 1:25:21.680 don't know what the future holds. I agree with that 1:25:21.800 --> 1:25:24.600 last part, and really the whole thing. The future, like 1:25:24.680 --> 1:25:26.920 the future of this team, I think, is so up 1:25:26.960 --> 1:25:29.160 in the air. You really don't know. I mean, it's 1:25:29.160 --> 1:25:32.439 just it's it's very unknown, it's very vague. There's not 1:25:32.520 --> 1:25:34.640 a lot to hang your hat on total agreement. It 1:25:34.640 --> 1:25:38.240 seems like there's been more bad than good overall. But 1:25:38.280 --> 1:25:39.680 there are four and four, you know, I mean, there 1:25:39.680 --> 1:25:43.760 are five hundred teams. If you get more plays, you know, 1:25:43.800 --> 1:25:46.280 more games like today the rest of the way, and 1:25:46.360 --> 1:25:48.840 you end up going like eight and nine. Yeah, Like 1:25:48.960 --> 1:25:51.240 I have no idea. Like if someone's asking me, what 1:25:51.600 --> 1:25:54.120 is this, the guy I don't know, Like I don't, 1:25:54.600 --> 1:25:58.080 like my gut would say no. But you know, I 1:25:58.080 --> 1:25:59.920 don't know. If two years is too quite, I don't know. 1:26:00.160 --> 1:26:02.960 That's that's the danger to me, is that you end 1:26:03.040 --> 1:26:06.360 up like Midland yeah today, uh yeah, no question about it. 1:26:06.360 --> 1:26:08.559 And by the way, at four and four, that'd be 1:26:08.680 --> 1:26:11.960 enough for you know, battling for second place in the 1:26:12.000 --> 1:26:15.000 North in the South and in the West. So I 1:26:15.040 --> 1:26:17.200 mean you have you have a division now in the 1:26:17.240 --> 1:26:18.960 AFC East. Everybody thought it was gonna be the West 1:26:19.000 --> 1:26:21.759 this year with the Chiefs, the Chargers and Russell Wilson 1:26:21.760 --> 1:26:24.160 and the Broncos and Adams going to the Raiders. Everyone 1:26:24.200 --> 1:26:25.920 thought that was going to be the division. You're in 1:26:25.960 --> 1:26:28.160 the division, and that's the worst possible time for the 1:26:28.160 --> 1:26:30.720 Patriots to be in the most competitive division in the AFC. Yeah, 1:26:30.760 --> 1:26:33.839 but the division's really irrelevant because you're not competing with Buffalo. 1:26:34.200 --> 1:26:36.240 You're competing with all the teams in the conference for 1:26:36.360 --> 1:26:38.719 wildcard spots. Yeah, so where you know what I'm saying, 1:26:38.800 --> 1:26:41.360 what division? I actually look at it as a blessing 1:26:41.360 --> 1:26:43.080 because you get an opportunity to beat the teams that 1:26:43.120 --> 1:26:45.759 you have to get in front of. Like today, Yeah, 1:26:45.800 --> 1:26:48.840 like you had a chance to beat head to head 1:26:49.120 --> 1:26:50.880 the Jets, who were one of the teams ahead of you, 1:26:51.360 --> 1:26:55.120 Whereas like, uh, you know, Cincinnati, you'll have a chance 1:26:55.200 --> 1:26:57.719 later on in the year, Baltimore, you already missed that chance. 1:26:58.040 --> 1:27:00.000 You know, if maybe down the road it's the Chargers 1:27:00.040 --> 1:27:02.000 are one of the teams you're trying to chase, you 1:27:02.040 --> 1:27:05.240 won't get an opportunity to see if you could see them. 1:27:05.360 --> 1:27:09.000 You know, I think this, I get it. I mean, 1:27:09.040 --> 1:27:10.719 I think this is something to be said both ways. 1:27:11.520 --> 1:27:13.559 Tough division, But if you were, if you were fighting 1:27:13.560 --> 1:27:15.400 for the division lead, I would say, yeah, it's tough. 1:27:16.000 --> 1:27:17.840 But I don't really think they're gonna be when all 1:27:17.920 --> 1:27:19.160 is said and done, I don't think they're going to 1:27:19.200 --> 1:27:22.000 be a factor in the division. Yeah. Stephan from Frankfurt, 1:27:22.000 --> 1:27:24.639 Germany says, Guys, I really hope make would respond after 1:27:24.640 --> 1:27:26.920 getting pulled last week with an angry good performance. He 1:27:26.960 --> 1:27:29.320 may have been angry, but he certainly was not good. 1:27:29.080 --> 1:27:31.479 Where is the more than solid QB he was last season? 1:27:31.479 --> 1:27:34.760 That's a great question. I feel like, you know, we 1:27:35.000 --> 1:27:37.120 talk about like improvement from year to year. Is he 1:27:37.200 --> 1:27:39.200 gonna get better? Is he going to progress? Can he 1:27:39.240 --> 1:27:40.760 get back to what he was last year? Like, I 1:27:40.760 --> 1:27:43.120 feel like he's not even there now. You hope, So, yeah, 1:27:43.160 --> 1:27:45.960 you sure hope. So otherwise, this team, the future is 1:27:45.960 --> 1:27:47.559 a lot worse if he doesn't get back to where 1:27:47.560 --> 1:27:49.720 he was last year. To kind of go back to 1:27:49.760 --> 1:27:53.679 the last question, because if you're staying, if you're taking 1:27:53.680 --> 1:27:57.120 a step back in year two, you're probably not making 1:27:57.280 --> 1:28:00.200 huge leap in year three, year four, and if you 1:28:00.200 --> 1:28:02.720 don't have the quarterback, it's gone to show in this 1:28:02.800 --> 1:28:05.400 league you're you're not very good. You're at best a 1:28:05.439 --> 1:28:09.000 middling team. I wasn't expecting Mac to start airing it 1:28:09.040 --> 1:28:11.160 out down the field. I knew that, you know, there 1:28:11.240 --> 1:28:12.720 was they weren't going to let him just go out 1:28:12.720 --> 1:28:14.599 there and get picked off a bunch. But even though 1:28:14.600 --> 1:28:17.040 it was a relatively conservative game plan, he still had 1:28:17.040 --> 1:28:18.559 a hard time, you know, he still had a really 1:28:18.560 --> 1:28:21.240 hard time reading the defense, getting the ball where he 1:28:21.240 --> 1:28:23.040 wanted it to go, and avoiding those type of plays. 1:28:23.080 --> 1:28:25.040 And I'd be interested to hear, you know, all of 1:28:25.080 --> 1:28:27.160 the you know, the the all twenty two guys that 1:28:27.200 --> 1:28:28.600 I make fun of all the time. But I'm not 1:28:28.640 --> 1:28:32.880 really trying to in this particular case, because I thought 1:28:32.880 --> 1:28:34.920 there were a lot of elements of the game today 1:28:35.720 --> 1:28:38.080 that were similar to what we've seen. I saw him 1:28:38.120 --> 1:28:40.080 under center, I saw him play action, I saw him 1:28:40.120 --> 1:28:42.760 doing some of the things that you know they've done 1:28:42.800 --> 1:28:46.400 with with Zappy, and it looked just as bad. So 1:28:46.760 --> 1:28:49.240 I'm not you know, I'd be curious to see if 1:28:49.280 --> 1:28:52.160 there was you know, different things, different concepts that people 1:28:52.200 --> 1:28:54.880 feel like we're happening today as opposed to what Zappi 1:28:54.920 --> 1:28:58.400 has been dealing with. Is there a point this season 1:28:59.080 --> 1:29:01.320 where if Mac doesn't get any better, you think they 1:29:01.360 --> 1:29:04.160 should start planning for a new quarterback next year? Is that? 1:29:04.320 --> 1:29:06.599 Is that on the table this year? I think if 1:29:06.640 --> 1:29:09.800 the record falls apart and you're in position to pick 1:29:09.840 --> 1:29:14.599 in the top ten, yep, Okay, there's some good quarterbacks 1:29:14.600 --> 1:29:16.200 in this you know. And I would say, and I 1:29:16.240 --> 1:29:19.480 would say with the one caveat is unless it's an injury, 1:29:19.520 --> 1:29:21.840 if he can't play for the balance of the last 1:29:21.920 --> 1:29:24.720 nine games. Let's say he gets hurt two weeks from 1:29:24.720 --> 1:29:27.559 now when they end up losing you know, I don't 1:29:27.560 --> 1:29:30.200 know six of the last seven and Mac doesn't play 1:29:30.200 --> 1:29:32.200 in those games, so you have you have a top 1:29:32.240 --> 1:29:35.439 ten pick, but it wasn't Mac's fault, then maybe I, 1:29:35.760 --> 1:29:37.560 you know, I have to fall back on my evaluation. 1:29:38.360 --> 1:29:40.120 But if he plays the rest of the way and 1:29:40.160 --> 1:29:43.840 he's healthy and they lose all the games, I have 1:29:43.880 --> 1:29:46.240 to think because he's not playing great, Yeah, I think 1:29:46.240 --> 1:29:48.920 you have to think about it. Christian, Yeah, I certainly 1:29:48.920 --> 1:29:50.240 think you have to as well. Do we have Mac 1:29:50.280 --> 1:29:52.439 ready to go. All right, without any further ado, let's 1:29:52.439 --> 1:29:54.120 hear from the man we've been talking about most of 1:29:54.120 --> 1:29:59.559 this postgame show, Mac Jones as an offense, as a team, Yeah, 1:29:59.600 --> 1:30:02.240 I think things first, just kind of opening statement here, 1:30:02.400 --> 1:30:05.040 just wanted to give a huge congratulations to coach Belichick, 1:30:05.640 --> 1:30:09.120 um on on his accomplishment. And I'm obviously he's done 1:30:09.120 --> 1:30:11.320 a great job here and it's just a blessing to 1:30:11.320 --> 1:30:13.559 be able to play for him. And obviously we don't 1:30:13.560 --> 1:30:15.720 do the whole individual awards, but that's a big one, 1:30:15.800 --> 1:30:18.479 and um, it's just to be this quarterback right now. 1:30:18.479 --> 1:30:21.200 It's a huge blessing. So, um, I thought today was 1:30:22.000 --> 1:30:24.200 a good win. I think in the National Football League 1:30:24.200 --> 1:30:26.960 it's obviously hard to win, and um the defense played 1:30:27.000 --> 1:30:29.360 exceptional and we kind of knew we were just gonna 1:30:29.360 --> 1:30:31.840 wait and let them kind of take over the game. 1:30:31.880 --> 1:30:35.080 And special teams played great as well, and obviously we 1:30:35.120 --> 1:30:36.960 did enough to put points up. But we want to 1:30:36.960 --> 1:30:39.479 do better and we will. But um, a lot of 1:30:39.520 --> 1:30:41.280 things are working on I'm sure when we see the film. 1:30:41.320 --> 1:30:43.880 But you gotta give credit to the Jets defense. That's 1:30:44.120 --> 1:30:46.680 a really good defense, top defense in the league. And 1:30:47.240 --> 1:30:49.280 we'll face, you know, really good defenses in the future, 1:30:49.320 --> 1:30:52.360 and that was you know, good preparation for that coming 1:30:52.400 --> 1:30:54.880 out with the second half of offense, was that it 1:30:55.000 --> 1:30:58.639 was a messaging out, Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I think, 1:30:58.680 --> 1:31:02.080 you know, Coach Belichick and Mattie p and coach Judge 1:31:02.080 --> 1:31:03.840 did a good job just coming up with the plan 1:31:03.920 --> 1:31:06.400 of how we were going to attack, and we talked 1:31:06.400 --> 1:31:08.360 about it and they they've done a good job all 1:31:08.439 --> 1:31:11.200 year of adjusting at halftime. Um, I think that's something 1:31:11.240 --> 1:31:13.680 that they've done a great job of. And UM that 1:31:13.760 --> 1:31:16.640 obviously benefits you in the second half, and we were 1:31:16.640 --> 1:31:18.160 able to go down there and move the ball, but 1:31:18.360 --> 1:31:20.360 obviously want to score more points and we know that, 1:31:20.439 --> 1:31:22.439 and um, we'll have plenty of stuff to work on. 1:31:22.560 --> 1:31:25.200 But super proud of you know, the guys on offense. 1:31:25.200 --> 1:31:28.040 We just sticking with it and trying to battle through 1:31:28.080 --> 1:31:30.559 against you know, obviously a really good defense back. Did 1:31:30.560 --> 1:31:33.080 you have any extra motivation this week coming off any 1:31:33.080 --> 1:31:34.880 of the injury this in three weeks and then just 1:31:34.880 --> 1:31:38.080 playing those three serious last year. UM, I think, you know, 1:31:38.160 --> 1:31:41.599 I always try to be like internally motivated, and obviously 1:31:41.680 --> 1:31:43.840 there's things that you can control and for me, it 1:31:43.880 --> 1:31:45.880 was just my attitude and my effort and being a 1:31:45.880 --> 1:31:48.280 good teammate and showing up and trying to work and 1:31:48.360 --> 1:31:50.920 lead the guys. And that's my you know, good attribute 1:31:50.920 --> 1:31:53.439 that I have is my communication. And I felt like 1:31:53.479 --> 1:31:55.679 we did extra things this week together as a team 1:31:55.720 --> 1:31:58.519 and really as an offense that showed up on the field. 1:31:58.520 --> 1:32:01.639 And if we continue to do that, um, we'll see 1:32:01.800 --> 1:32:05.160 you know, better results. So the processes there and I'm 1:32:05.200 --> 1:32:07.439 just super you know, happy to go to be a 1:32:07.439 --> 1:32:09.760 part of this, and obviously we want to continue to 1:32:09.760 --> 1:32:11.760 grow here. It's one game is not good enough, so 1:32:12.000 --> 1:32:14.160 we'll be ready for you know, next week. I think 1:32:14.160 --> 1:32:16.280 you mentioned it. What were some of the extra things 1:32:16.360 --> 1:32:19.439 you guys are doing us the team? You guys rock 1:32:19.479 --> 1:32:25.839 favorite SISIs now You're good? Yeah, I think just sorry. 1:32:25.880 --> 1:32:28.200 I think just talking through some things and watching extra 1:32:28.240 --> 1:32:32.280 film together was obviously very beneficial and um, getting more 1:32:32.320 --> 1:32:35.160 reps you know, in our own time and talking through 1:32:35.200 --> 1:32:38.160 things and just whatever we had questions on we were 1:32:38.200 --> 1:32:40.360 just more all right, how do we do this? What 1:32:40.400 --> 1:32:43.519 do we need to do here? So obviously that's important. 1:32:43.560 --> 1:32:44.840 You want to be on the same page. And I 1:32:44.840 --> 1:32:46.800 feel like we made strides there. But I got to 1:32:46.800 --> 1:32:50.040 continue to do that. And um, like I said, just 1:32:50.160 --> 1:32:52.360 it starts in practice, and we had good week of 1:32:52.439 --> 1:32:54.640 practice and we got to carry it over even more 1:32:54.680 --> 1:32:56.800 into the game, but definitely good enough to you know, 1:32:56.840 --> 1:33:01.719 get to w just so we understand, like a small 1:33:01.720 --> 1:33:03.760 group or a couple of guys at Valley, I mean 1:33:03.800 --> 1:33:06.320 I think, you know, as always we have our meetings 1:33:06.360 --> 1:33:09.439 and um, you know, it takes everybody takes all eleven 1:33:09.479 --> 1:33:11.559 on the field, and there's a lot of young guys 1:33:11.560 --> 1:33:14.240 that are learning too, So we want to, like I said, 1:33:14.240 --> 1:33:16.320 just come together and whether it's as a unit or 1:33:16.360 --> 1:33:19.559 as a skill group or quarterback group or wide receiver group, 1:33:19.600 --> 1:33:22.000 like everyone's trying to do more and that's what we're 1:33:22.000 --> 1:33:25.200 trying to you know, get to and um, it should 1:33:25.200 --> 1:33:27.200 be like that every week. So we're gonna continue to 1:33:27.240 --> 1:33:30.120 do that and just get better. Man about the quick 1:33:30.160 --> 1:33:31.920 game and the second half, it seemed like you guys 1:33:32.160 --> 1:33:34.280 went off at Temple a little bit more short approach 1:33:34.360 --> 1:33:39.439 things like that style. Yeah, I think, um, it's really 1:33:39.439 --> 1:33:41.800 just applies to how the defense is playing and how 1:33:41.800 --> 1:33:44.040 we're trying to attack. And they had a really good 1:33:44.080 --> 1:33:47.040 you know, defensive line and we're just trying to neutralize 1:33:47.080 --> 1:33:49.240 that and move the ball quickly. And Matti p did 1:33:49.240 --> 1:33:51.720 a great job calling the plays all day. And I 1:33:51.760 --> 1:33:53.719 gotta get the ball out on some of those sacks 1:33:53.760 --> 1:33:56.479 and stuff. So it's not all one person or one thing. 1:33:56.520 --> 1:33:58.920 But I'll definitely watch it and see how we can improve. 1:33:58.960 --> 1:34:01.639 And um, and you know obviously want to score more 1:34:01.640 --> 1:34:03.879 points and do all that. So a lot of progress, 1:34:03.960 --> 1:34:11.840 but gotta keep going. It's doing that's better. Yeah, I think, Um, 1:34:11.880 --> 1:34:13.760 you know, Damien and Andre have done a great job 1:34:13.800 --> 1:34:16.600 all year, you know, working together as a unit, and um, 1:34:16.720 --> 1:34:19.479 helping those young guys move along. And um, they're both 1:34:19.560 --> 1:34:21.439 really good. In the past game. I think More has 1:34:21.479 --> 1:34:23.519 done a good job there. We kind of included him 1:34:23.640 --> 1:34:26.240 in that this week, and um, Damien has just improved 1:34:26.280 --> 1:34:28.320 there too. So you know, I love both of those 1:34:28.360 --> 1:34:31.280 guys are like my brothers. So UM, we just want 1:34:31.320 --> 1:34:33.880 to continue to grow together. And UM, you know they've 1:34:33.880 --> 1:34:38.640 done a great job. And even though you guys are 1:34:38.840 --> 1:34:40.439 playing your best, how good is it just get the 1:34:40.479 --> 1:34:43.799 victory environment. Yeah, it's great. I think that's why football 1:34:43.840 --> 1:34:46.000 is the greatest team sport. And you have a game 1:34:46.040 --> 1:34:48.760 plan and UM, I felt like we laid out the 1:34:49.280 --> 1:34:50.960 you know, targets that we wanted to hit, and we 1:34:51.120 --> 1:34:53.559 hit most of them. So, UM, you know, that's that's 1:34:53.600 --> 1:34:55.439 part of it. And I'm just super happy that we won. 1:34:55.520 --> 1:34:57.760 But you know, we're always gonna try and look at 1:34:57.760 --> 1:34:59.519 the things that we can do better, and that's what 1:34:59.560 --> 1:35:01.519 we'll do. But you had a great job on defense 1:35:01.520 --> 1:35:04.519 and special teams and offensively just trying to just battle 1:35:04.520 --> 1:35:06.000 through it and find a way and that's what the 1:35:06.080 --> 1:35:08.599 national football he is. Mac. What did you what did 1:35:08.600 --> 1:35:11.240 you last six? What were you trying to do with 1:35:11.280 --> 1:35:14.400 the ball? And also your reaction to the penalty. Um, yeah, 1:35:14.439 --> 1:35:16.360 I think that something I'll have to see on film. 1:35:16.360 --> 1:35:17.640 But I knew what I was trying to do with 1:35:17.640 --> 1:35:20.559 it and just a little miscommunication. But I can't have 1:35:20.640 --> 1:35:24.160 those and penalties saved us. But um, definitely want to 1:35:24.160 --> 1:35:27.240 eliminate those plays, and UM, gotta watch it and see 1:35:27.280 --> 1:35:30.479 what we can do better. Cool. Thanks, all right. That 1:35:30.560 --> 1:35:33.479 was Mac Jones up at the podium earlier this evening 1:35:33.520 --> 1:35:36.040 as the Patriots come away with a twenty two seventeen 1:35:36.040 --> 1:35:39.040 win over the Jets. Mac Jones sporting the Agent Smith 1:35:39.040 --> 1:35:41.519 and the Matrix look with the with the black jacket. 1:35:41.600 --> 1:35:43.040 Is that a black tie or blue tie? I couldn't 1:35:43.040 --> 1:35:45.160 really tell. It looked like it looked like he had 1:35:45.200 --> 1:35:47.400 that whole thing going anyway, any takeaways from what he 1:35:47.400 --> 1:35:50.120 had to side? That last question is a good question. 1:35:50.160 --> 1:35:52.240 I wish that we would have gotten an answer on 1:35:52.280 --> 1:35:54.800 it because he said he said he knew what he 1:35:54.800 --> 1:35:56.360 wanted to do with it and it was a miscommunication. 1:35:57.280 --> 1:35:59.120 What the miscommunication was you were going to throw out 1:35:59.120 --> 1:36:01.559 fifteen yards short and let the guy who run there. Yeah, 1:36:01.680 --> 1:36:04.120 I'd like to see like the other view to see 1:36:04.120 --> 1:36:06.240 where the route was, because I didn't ever there was 1:36:06.280 --> 1:36:09.760 no Patriot in the picture on TV. You know, I'm 1:36:09.800 --> 1:36:11.799 assuming he's throwing an out and it looked like Michael 1:36:11.800 --> 1:36:14.040 Carter under I think it was Michael Cotter undercut the 1:36:14.080 --> 1:36:16.680 out route. But I didn't see a Patriots receiver, So 1:36:17.160 --> 1:36:19.439 I wonder if they were in zone and the receiver 1:36:19.600 --> 1:36:22.519 didn't react the way he was supposed to and the 1:36:22.560 --> 1:36:25.040 throw ends up looking like he's throwing it right to 1:36:25.120 --> 1:36:27.080 a jet but wasn't supposed to be like that. I 1:36:27.080 --> 1:36:29.000 don't know. All right, Well, I agree with you, it 1:36:29.040 --> 1:36:30.479 was a good question. We didn't get an answer too. 1:36:30.560 --> 1:36:32.200 I know that's too bad. We'll take a quick break 1:36:32.200 --> 1:36:34.040 here Mac Jones and Bill Belichick. 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The official defenders of the New England Patriots 1:39:23.920 --> 1:39:26.519 Pats with a twenty two seventeen ugly win on the 1:39:26.600 --> 1:39:29.519 road Division win knocking the Jets down a peg to 1:39:29.600 --> 1:39:31.439 five and three as the Pats improved to four and four, 1:39:31.520 --> 1:39:33.880 is still in the basement of the AFC East, but 1:39:34.120 --> 1:39:35.960 certainly a better record than a lot of other teams 1:39:36.200 --> 1:39:38.880 in the AFC, So a good win for them in 1:39:39.000 --> 1:39:42.080 terms of the schedule and the standings and everything else, 1:39:42.240 --> 1:39:44.479 in terms of style points and everything like that. Probably 1:39:44.520 --> 1:39:47.600 one of their not so great wins this season, or 1:39:47.600 --> 1:39:49.920 really any season. Had to have it, that's the bottom lines, 1:39:50.040 --> 1:39:51.800 and they got it. But yeah, still a lot of 1:39:51.800 --> 1:39:53.200 work to do on both sides of the ball, but 1:39:53.280 --> 1:39:56.599 especially on offense. Yeah, um, anything to close out Matt 1:39:56.640 --> 1:39:59.519 Any closing thoughts. Yeah, just let you know, get into 1:39:59.560 --> 1:40:01.599 the buy with a winning record. If you can do that, 1:40:01.680 --> 1:40:04.400 you feel a lot better about the really ugly start 1:40:04.439 --> 1:40:06.800 to the season and some of the ugly moments like 1:40:07.000 --> 1:40:09.599 last Monday and the win today. Getting to the bye 1:40:09.600 --> 1:40:11.240 with a winning record and that's all that matters. And 1:40:11.320 --> 1:40:14.360 you have a vulnerable team that you're playing next week 1:40:14.400 --> 1:40:18.200 with a young quarterback and Sam Ellinger who has looked 1:40:18.240 --> 1:40:21.599 horrific in the red zone looking as we've had here. Uh, 1:40:21.640 --> 1:40:23.280 you know, get getting to the bye with a winning 1:40:23.280 --> 1:40:26.240 record and go from there. The schedule gets a lot tougher, 1:40:26.280 --> 1:40:28.240 but half that winning record at the buy. Did I 1:40:28.240 --> 1:40:30.120 see Jonathan Taylor got hurt or is he back? He's 1:40:30.160 --> 1:40:32.280 back in the game, But yes, I mean they've playing 1:40:32.320 --> 1:40:34.280 the Patriots next week, so yes, I would expect. And 1:40:34.320 --> 1:40:36.320 he hasn't been the same kind of yeah right, he 1:40:36.360 --> 1:40:39.840 hasn't been the same kind of explosive he's been. Yeah, 1:40:39.840 --> 1:40:41.280 he's been hurt on and off. He's dealing with an 1:40:41.320 --> 1:40:44.000 ankle injury. But the last I saw he was back 1:40:44.000 --> 1:40:46.040 in the game. All right. Well the Patriots, Well, welcome 1:40:46.080 --> 1:40:49.160 in the Indianapolis Colts. On November sixth, they one o'clock 1:40:49.200 --> 1:40:51.720 game here at Gillette Stadium, and we'll have all the 1:40:51.760 --> 1:40:53.600 pre and post game for you like we always do 1:40:53.680 --> 1:40:56.080 here at Patriots dot com. Um, I'll be in again 1:40:56.080 --> 1:40:58.640 for Hardy here again next we'll be here again next week. 1:40:58.680 --> 1:41:01.639 Hopefully hell's going on. Yeah, a little bit in better 1:41:01.640 --> 1:41:03.840 shape than I was today. Thanks for bearing with me. Guys, 1:41:04.120 --> 1:41:06.800 certainly appreciate it most. Maybe we'll even see Deuce, who 1:41:07.360 --> 1:41:09.880 that'd be something, get the whole gang back together. 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