Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Postgame Show presented by Cyber Reason.
Speaker 1: He dropped back of the playfing He's pressure, He's wrapped up,
Speaker 1: He's shocked. Sam. How's another for the Patriots back in
Speaker 1: the twenty eight turn that man loose? The Patriots Postgame
Speaker 1: Show presented by Cyber Reason with Hardy, Mike Deso and
Speaker 1: Paul Pirillo is your source for all the news and
Speaker 1: information following every Patriots game chat. The staff to Mac
Speaker 1: Jarns quires to be at John caught at the call
Speaker 1: on HiT's a touchdown on the Hunter. Henry as the
Speaker 1: Patriots at their lead, joined the conversation by calling the
Speaker 1: A Sticket hotline at eight five five Pats five hundred
Speaker 1: or email this show at web radio at Patriots dot com.
Speaker 1: I hope y'all keep that same energy for tonight, Babee,
Speaker 1: can't wait. I from our studios inside Gillette Stadium. Here's
Speaker 1: Christian Arcads slipping and sliding. He was like a captain
Speaker 1: pot pop ye bang, all right, Welcome in. It is
Speaker 1: Patriots post Game Am Here at Gillette Stadium. Christian Arcand
Speaker 1: alongside Paul Perillo, has the Patriots come away with a
Speaker 1: twenty two to seventeen win over the New York Jets,
Speaker 1: trying to inch up in those standings. Bill Belichick passes
Speaker 1: George Hallis and the Jets suffer a loss. All three
Speaker 1: of their loss has been at home so far. A
Speaker 1: pretty interesting game, a pretty pretty weird game, pretty awful game,
Speaker 1: pretty awful game. Yeah, I mean, like it was. It
Speaker 1: was not a It was not a pretty sight out
Speaker 1: there at the Meadowlands today, Paul. Yeah, I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: no style points. Patriots had to have a win. They
Speaker 1: got a win, and that's the only thing that matters.
Speaker 1: But I think most of us would be in agreement
Speaker 1: that there is a long, long way to go. Still.
Speaker 1: This was not, by any means, you know, the kind
Speaker 1: of response that I think a lot of Patriots fans
Speaker 1: were hoping for, you know, one of those Okay, we
Speaker 1: were embarrassed on Monday night. We're going to go on
Speaker 1: the rooad against the team that we traditionally handle with ease,
Speaker 1: and we're going to smack them around a little bit.
Speaker 1: They did not smack the Jets around a little bit.
Speaker 1: The Jets handed them the game, and they also got
Speaker 1: a couple of very fortunate breaks with personal foul calls.
Speaker 1: One of which completely changed the course of the game.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter because they had to have a win.
Speaker 1: I think the season was over today, can if they
Speaker 1: had lost the game at three and five, it is
Speaker 1: not over at four and four. There is still hole. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're still alive. They're still kicking. And I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think if they fell to three and five and
Speaker 1: the Jets went to six and two, yeah, then you're
Speaker 1: talking about not just the season being over, but fans
Speaker 1: maybe disengaging, like the whole sort of thing. Just all right,
Speaker 1: we'll watch the game because it's on, but not that
Speaker 1: same kind of engagement that you usually see with fans
Speaker 1: this early in the season, and that you know, week eight,
Speaker 1: that'd be a hell of a time for people to
Speaker 1: start giving up. But you can't give up now. It
Speaker 1: wasn't a pretty game, obviously. Mac Jones struggled a lot
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the game. Zach Wilson did too,
Speaker 1: but was able to put a couple of drives together
Speaker 1: at the end. There. All in all, I mean, if
Speaker 1: we go back to our sort of keys to the game,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like they really did any of them,
Speaker 1: except for part of the game. They made Wilson c ghosts.
Speaker 1: Other than that, I feel like they didn't really hit
Speaker 1: any of the things that we talked about. And I
Speaker 1: don't even think they you know, not to take away
Speaker 1: the ghost thing. I don't even think they confused him.
Speaker 1: I just think Jack Wilson just continued to not understand
Speaker 1: the idea of throwing the ball away. He would throw
Speaker 1: the ball away into a crowd. He did three times.
Speaker 1: He got away with it. Once down in the red zone.
Speaker 1: He threw one that fell in between a host of
Speaker 1: players that had no chance in anything. It twice that
Speaker 1: Devin mccordy caught. I mean, just throwaways that had no chance. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we could probably we can get
Speaker 1: into the good, the bad, and the injured here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do that as deuces on the line. Deuce you there,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, let's get let's get deuces. Opening
Speaker 1: thoughts thing because we didn't have the pleasure of enjoying
Speaker 1: game time with him today. Yeah, I always hate this, Paul,
Speaker 1: and then I come into these things. But but I
Speaker 1: agree with everything you said. Um, you know, I thought
Speaker 1: that the first half was just disgusting offensively, it was
Speaker 1: actually I found it offensive and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: would you know, you get into the second half, and
Speaker 1: then everything just kind of kicks in the gear. They
Speaker 1: get a you know, a terrible kick off from the Jets,
Speaker 1: they get a great field position, they get a big run,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, here we go. The formula
Speaker 1: has begun and they we're able to do it. So, um,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, there's some great performances Ramander, Stevenson just
Speaker 1: you know, back on track, outstanding. Um, I don't want to,
Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, come off all totally negative,
Speaker 1: but um it was. It was a rough go there
Speaker 1: at early going there, especially on offense. I'll play bad
Speaker 1: cop then, well we'll do that after we do good,
Speaker 1: bad and the injured. Though. Ah yeah, let's go ahead
Speaker 1: and do that right now. Now it's time for the good,
Speaker 1: pretty good, Pert, pretty good, the bad and the injured.
Speaker 1: Ah ah you all right, guy, all right, let's start
Speaker 1: with the good. Um, I'm gonna go a different direction
Speaker 1: with my good I'm gonna give it to the front
Speaker 1: seven Lawrence Guy, Davon Godchau Guy at a sack in
Speaker 1: this game, I feel like they did a great job
Speaker 1: of stifling the Jets rushing attack, which is I know,
Speaker 1: even without the rookie playing, it was still a formidable
Speaker 1: rushing attack. And between Carter, Robinson and Johnson, they really
Speaker 1: couldn't get much going there. And I think that's due
Speaker 1: in large part to the big fat boys up front
Speaker 1: getting getting the penetration. Yeah, I put run defense down
Speaker 1: as well, only they only rushed the ball fifteen times.
Speaker 1: The game sort of you know, got out got away
Speaker 1: from them because of all the mistakes. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought when the Jets tried to run the ball um
Speaker 1: you know, early in the game, I don't think they
Speaker 1: had great success doing it. I also think, much like
Speaker 1: Cleveland a couple of weeks ago, I think they had
Speaker 1: a poor game plan coming in. But Mike, how did
Speaker 1: you feel? Yeah, I mean I like you said, Paul,
Speaker 1: I think they do what they had to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: it wasn't Prefaul they were going against. I thought overall,
Speaker 1: they limited damage against the run, did give up some passing,
Speaker 1: you know, some passing plays that that changed the complex,
Speaker 1: especially down the end. They're that big one made on
Speaker 1: with a little Harry Um. But you know, pretty solid
Speaker 1: up front, I thought from from from the defensive front,
Speaker 1: especially wise and Jos though those guys were getting after
Speaker 1: it too. I'll give you the next next opportunity to
Speaker 1: give us a good I'm gonna take the layoff Romander Stevenson. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I think after two games, a little quiet
Speaker 1: back on track, like I said at the top, and
Speaker 1: it just continues to be the piece. I mean what
Speaker 1: you know, I can play a little bit about Jacobe
Speaker 1: Myers too, but I don't know where they'd be without
Speaker 1: Ramander Stevenson right now, great game for him, just picking
Speaker 1: up yards after contact left and right, starting to make
Speaker 1: guys miss again like he did a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: So you know, if they can continue to ride him,
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a huge thing for the offense.
Speaker 1: And I mean if I think they have to, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just think he's the key piece and as he goes,
Speaker 1: they go. At this point, yeah, best player in the
Speaker 1: field today, you know, certainly for the Patriots. I'll go
Speaker 1: with Jacoby Myers as well. I thought early on he
Speaker 1: had a couple of tough runs after the catch to
Speaker 1: get some key third downs. You know, he ends up
Speaker 1: with what nine catches for sixty yards, so the average
Speaker 1: per catch not there, But I thought there was some
Speaker 1: big plays come up with the fourth down catch for
Speaker 1: the touchdown to start the second half. Not a lot
Speaker 1: to feel good about today offensively in any regard. But
Speaker 1: I thought Stevenson and Myers were too that I felt
Speaker 1: really good about. So I had him both on my list, Remandri.
Speaker 1: Stevenson and Jacoby Myers caught more balls or twice as
Speaker 1: many balls as the rest of the team combined, sixteen
Speaker 1: combined for them, eight for the rest of the team.
Speaker 1: You could tell Mac was really leaning on him, and
Speaker 1: we thought that he was going to do that, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought Myers could have a big game.
Speaker 1: I had mentioned that because I know the Jets play
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, a lot of that cover
Speaker 1: three zone kind of stuff. I thought that worked well,
Speaker 1: um for his game. But you know you have to
Speaker 1: go out and do it too, and you know he
Speaker 1: was able to do it all right. Um, let's see,
Speaker 1: how about another good I'm gonna go with Nick Folk.
Speaker 1: I mean, how much how much better could he be
Speaker 1: from party? I mean, that's that's I guess the honorary
Speaker 1: host pick, you know, but every yeah, absolutely did Folk? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you talk about key, Key kicks
Speaker 1: because you know what, they had a situation today. This
Speaker 1: is why I kind of like said I'll play bad
Speaker 1: cop when you would talk about the the offense was
Speaker 1: terrible for four full quarters. They had the one drive
Speaker 1: that they had that they scored the touchdown on that
Speaker 1: you needed, a thirty five yard run by Stevenson that
Speaker 1: he got hit in the backfield and had like three
Speaker 1: guys on him. They had four i'm sorry, three different
Speaker 1: scoring drives. Say that they didn't get a first down,
Speaker 1: like the points that they got today were completely handed
Speaker 1: to them. They had a four play zero yard drive,
Speaker 1: a four play four yard drive and a five play
Speaker 1: sixteen yard drive that the only the only yards was
Speaker 1: was a roughing the passer, which was highly questionable. This
Speaker 1: was not good offense today. Nick Folk was huge. Forty
Speaker 1: nine yards I'm sorry, forty forty five yards, forty nine yards,
Speaker 1: fifty two yards, forty two yards, like not just chip
Speaker 1: shot field goals. You know you're not You're not necessarily
Speaker 1: going into a game saying well we're gonna go forty two,
Speaker 1: forty five, forty nine fifty two, we're gonna go four
Speaker 1: for four in those I mean, you hope to, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think you expect to make all four of those,
Speaker 1: and he did and they needed every one of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they needed him big time because they were not getting
Speaker 1: into the end zone and outside of it, weren't even
Speaker 1: getting first downs. Yeah, I mean they couldn't. They really
Speaker 1: couldn't advance the ball much. Um. One other good that
Speaker 1: I had, or I guess i'd do, so you go
Speaker 1: if you have another one. Yeah, Peppers on there. I
Speaker 1: thought he was pretty active. Did have a bad penalty
Speaker 1: recover him the onside kick though at the end that
Speaker 1: was a little hairy. I just thought he was active.
Speaker 1: I mean, with dugger out, he was tough guy. I've
Speaker 1: always kind of had my eye on him. I just
Speaker 1: think he's aggressive and kind of like his quickness and
Speaker 1: plays a little hard notes football. So I liked what
Speaker 1: Peppers did today and I'm hopeful that maybe they can
Speaker 1: continue to find a way to, you know, get him involved.
Speaker 1: Yeah I would, if you were here, I'd have a
Speaker 1: nice solid pushback on that one. I thought he did
Speaker 1: a lot of questions. I thought he did a lot
Speaker 1: of questionable things today. I think he should have had
Speaker 1: two other personal fouls that he didn't, and I thought
Speaker 1: he was out of position. Occasionally I thought, I give
Speaker 1: him props for solid onside kick recovery and a good
Speaker 1: tackle near the sideline on a running play on a
Speaker 1: toss suite. But I thought I thought he was hurting
Speaker 1: the team today. He was very fortunate that he didn't
Speaker 1: get a penalty on the Garrett Wilson play where not
Speaker 1: only he grabs him by the leg and tries to
Speaker 1: pull his leg, which I thought was dirty, but it
Speaker 1: was after he was already down, he was on a knee. Um,
Speaker 1: and then he gets a personal file after that with
Speaker 1: a with a helmet hit. Um. I didn't like his
Speaker 1: game very much today, to be honest, Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: to look at that one, Paul. I'm not have to
Speaker 1: look at him out there. This is bad when we're
Speaker 1: not together, you know, we're not working these things out
Speaker 1: during the game. Yeah, that's okay, you can yell at
Speaker 1: me later. Um between Peppers mccordy Adrian Phillips. I thought
Speaker 1: the safety play was pretty good, you know. I thought
Speaker 1: that the safeties were okay around the line. Yeah around
Speaker 1: then thought yeah, like you you you brought up the
Speaker 1: run the run defense. I thought those guys I thought Phillips.
Speaker 1: I had Adrian Phillips, might as well bring him up now.
Speaker 1: I had Adrian Phillips strongly on my good list today.
Speaker 1: I thought he had a couple of really good plays
Speaker 1: and a tremendous passed defense down Michael Carter in the
Speaker 1: end zone and the first the first time the Jets
Speaker 1: were down there led to a field goal. Really good
Speaker 1: defensive play, two good run stuffs at around the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. I thought he was really good. Uh, Adrian Phillips. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And they obviously didn't have Duggers, so you saw some
Speaker 1: extra minutes there for Josh Bledsoe. The only play we
Speaker 1: really saw him on is when he got burned by
Speaker 1: the tight end there um uh Conklin and he comes
Speaker 1: up to Conklin's waste, so you kind of expected that
Speaker 1: to maybe happen. He's out there on an island in
Speaker 1: the end zone with him. But aside from that, and
Speaker 1: aside from a couple of places you mentioned Paul from Peppers,
Speaker 1: I was I liked what the what the safeties did
Speaker 1: as a group. Mike, what Elnce you got? Yeah? Can
Speaker 1: I can I put Zach Wilson on? Is that allowed? Now?
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, Um, I mentioned I mentioned shoot On
Speaker 1: and Wise. I mean I thought that they were They
Speaker 1: were good all game. I mean especially Wise. I just
Speaker 1: think he's uh, you know, I worried a little bit
Speaker 1: hot start. Is he gonna fade out or you know,
Speaker 1: I just I want to see that consistency from him.
Speaker 1: And I thought he came out today and you know,
Speaker 1: continues to you know, get just be disrupted, be a handful. Um.
Speaker 1: Liked what those guys did. I think they were a
Speaker 1: big part of you know, the success that they had
Speaker 1: against the run and you know, forced I almost said
Speaker 1: forcing Zach Wilson into those instructions. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's an accurate way to say it, um, but but
Speaker 1: they were good and I think they need to be
Speaker 1: good and I liked what they did. All right, are
Speaker 1: we all done with good? Yeah? I had real quick.
Speaker 1: I had to kick off coverage today because that's something
Speaker 1: that I think has been a little bit leaky as
Speaker 1: of late today. I thought they they did a good
Speaker 1: job twice stopping Braxton Barrios inside the twenty um to
Speaker 1: force the Jets. It's a really bad field position to start,
Speaker 1: So I had that on my list. I had Marcus
Speaker 1: Jones is, you know, sticking with a special team, you know,
Speaker 1: you know big. I think it was a twenty seven
Speaker 1: yard part return which gave him. Unfortunately, Patriots did nothing
Speaker 1: with it because they can't move the ball on offense
Speaker 1: at all. Um, So I had that and then you know,
Speaker 1: hats off to Bill Belichick for officially passing George Hollis.
Speaker 1: That was That was the extent of my good list
Speaker 1: right there. All right, there you go, let's see how
Speaker 1: about Paul, how about a little just Marcus Jones shout
Speaker 1: out for that part return. I did, you did? I
Speaker 1: just did. I'm gonna need you to listen. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need you to listen. I don't care if you're gonna
Speaker 1: COVID fog. I'm gonna need you to listen. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I thought special teams a little bit of a bounce
Speaker 1: back today. Um, you know, and and again here's where
Speaker 1: I would put Peppers into that, because that's a good play,
Speaker 1: good aggressive play coming to get the ball. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: on that on site and you know, I know everybody says, well,
Speaker 1: you're recovering and outside kicked. That's his job. You know,
Speaker 1: we've seen guys have problems with those. I thought he
Speaker 1: confidently and aggressively came up and got that, so I
Speaker 1: would count that in the Special teams. Unfortunately, they couldn't
Speaker 1: top it off with the downing of a punt inside
Speaker 1: the five when DeMarcus Mitchell rolled into the end zone
Speaker 1: with it. But you know, overall, I thought Jake Bailey
Speaker 1: was better today. Special teams was solid. Okay, well, we
Speaker 1: got all our goods out of our system. It was
Speaker 1: a win. But can I give you a quick red zone?
Speaker 1: Douce likes these? Douce likes these? Okay, So, h Atlanta
Speaker 1: had a six point lead, like with less than thirty
Speaker 1: seconds left, kicked the field goal to make it six,
Speaker 1: and they allowed a m a bomb for a touchdown
Speaker 1: to DJ Moore with twelve seconds left, and it was
Speaker 1: like a Hail Mary type thing and he caught the
Speaker 1: ball touchdown and there was a wild celebration. I think
Speaker 1: I'm not positive, but I think it resulted in the
Speaker 1: fifteen yard penalty, which pushed the extra point back and
Speaker 1: he missed the extra point. So it's thirty four thirty
Speaker 1: four with twelve seconds left in Atlanta, and that game,
Speaker 1: by the way, is for first place in the in
Speaker 1: the NFC, So, oh my god, two under five hundred teams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: someone's gonna be under five hundred and win that division.
Speaker 1: That's that's something. It's usually that division, isn't it. I
Speaker 1: remember that Saint a couple of years ago. I think
Speaker 1: Carolina was like seven and nine or something, or six
Speaker 1: and ten even I don't know, I forget. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: all right, well there you go. There's your red zone update.
Speaker 1: Let's get to some bads. Um. I think the obvious
Speaker 1: one staring is right in the face. Not a great
Speaker 1: game for mac Jones. Mike. I wasn't gonna put him on,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean it's just I mean, I I'm
Speaker 1: struggling right now. I really thought, I don't usually put
Speaker 1: this much thought into the good the bad, and I
Speaker 1: know people were like, you've got he's got to be
Speaker 1: on the bad Acta's probably if I was, there would
Speaker 1: be a great debate. I'm not gonna quite put him on. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get him a little bit of Aluway his
Speaker 1: first bull start back, but overall, the offensive performance was
Speaker 1: atrocious outside of Stevenson, and I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: to dissect there, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: jump on them Mac right now, as much as I
Speaker 1: maybe want him, Yeah, maybe I'll give him some points
Speaker 1: for coming back, you know, playing his first full game.
Speaker 1: But if I'm judging it off his performance today, he's
Speaker 1: got to be on the bad list. I thought he
Speaker 1: had a boatload of quote turnover worthy plays, which seems
Speaker 1: to be the new buzzword in football. It's not just turnovers,
Speaker 1: it's how many years should have had. So I thought
Speaker 1: he was extremely fortunate on the roughing the passer. I
Speaker 1: thought he was extremely fortunate on the ball that got
Speaker 1: tipped at the line. I think it might have hit
Speaker 1: Isaiah Wind at the line and hit C. J. Mosley
Speaker 1: in the chest. I thought there were a couple of
Speaker 1: others that he I didn't really see a whole lot
Speaker 1: of like really decisive throws today from him. I saw
Speaker 1: a lot off his backfoot. Now, in his defense, he
Speaker 1: was under siege for most of the day, but I know,
Speaker 1: I don't think he really ever did anything to help
Speaker 1: himself in that regard. So I didn't think he was
Speaker 1: great today. You know, in twenty four for thirty five
Speaker 1: for one ninety four, a touchdown in an interception, sack,
Speaker 1: six times. And like I said, I think that that
Speaker 1: roughing the pastor call. If the Patriots rebound and have
Speaker 1: a good second half to the season and make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: that roughing the pastor call was going to be the
Speaker 1: biggest play in the twenty twenty two season, because if
Speaker 1: that does not get called, that's a loss. Yeah, No
Speaker 1: one can convince me otherwise. Seventeen to three at the half.
Speaker 1: I think there's a fair chance you would have seen
Speaker 1: Bailey zappy in the second half and the game would
Speaker 1: have the game would have been over. And it was
Speaker 1: one of the worst throws ever. I mean, there was
Speaker 1: a terrible roll that had nothing to do with anything
Speaker 1: that happened, whether you thought it was roughing the pastor
Speaker 1: or not. Yeah, and Mac didn't even think it was
Speaker 1: a penalty. He walked off to the sideline, had no
Speaker 1: idea that was even a penalty on the play, So
Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with the play. Yeah. His
Speaker 1: actual interception I didn't think was his fault, obviously, because
Speaker 1: they came behind them and knocked it away. But we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to pause this right now and give a
Speaker 1: big thank you to our sponsor, Microsoft Surface, the official
Speaker 1: sideline technology provider and laptop of the NFL and the
Speaker 1: New England Patriots that provides players and coaches with the
Speaker 1: tools to succeed both on and off the field. Check
Speaker 1: out the powerful Surface Pro eight, combining the power of
Speaker 1: a laptop with the flexibility of a tablet over at
Speaker 1: surface dot com. That means we are going to be
Speaker 1: talking to a player right now, and that player is
Speaker 1: Juwan Bentley, who joins us here on the phone line.
Speaker 1: If I could just click it on, Joan, you hear me, Hey, Hey,
Speaker 1: how y'all doing doing fine? Probably not as good as
Speaker 1: you're doing. First career interception? How'd that feel that? Seeing
Speaker 1: my second? But it's been a minute, so oh, I'm
Speaker 1: definitely I think we should get after CBS then, Joan,
Speaker 1: because they said it was your first career inter sense right,
Speaker 1: I was just listening to them. Yeah, this is definitely
Speaker 1: the second one we get on CBS. Which ones you
Speaker 1: like better that one or the first one? I'm always
Speaker 1: for the most recent, so obviously on that play, that's
Speaker 1: a that's a big spot there. The Jets are looking
Speaker 1: to get some points at the end of the half
Speaker 1: up ten three. Uh, you looked like you dropped into
Speaker 1: a zone. I think it was Ty Johnson may have
Speaker 1: been in front of you. Was that was it as
Speaker 1: simple as that. Maybe Zach Wilson just kind of overshot
Speaker 1: at you. We are Yeah, well I'm not so sure
Speaker 1: what they was trying to do, But all I know
Speaker 1: was the ball was in the end we was out.
Speaker 1: My job to make a play on it and after
Speaker 1: what we had to get done. And we always talk
Speaker 1: about making taking advantage of the opportunity when they come
Speaker 1: our way, and I think he did a good job
Speaker 1: of that. And those takeaways were obviously huge in the game.
Speaker 1: Juwan Um, you know, you really gave the offensive list.
Speaker 1: The offenses needed some help today to get some points
Speaker 1: on the board, and you guys were consistently able to
Speaker 1: do that. What was the key to sort of, I
Speaker 1: would say, hurrying Zach Wilson around and allowing him because
Speaker 1: he obviously got a little bit flustered and through something
Speaker 1: to you what was the key to getting some pressure
Speaker 1: on him? Just the first one. We definitely always talk
Speaker 1: about playing complimentary football. He has an entire team, but defensively,
Speaker 1: we always we know Zack he's a great athlete of
Speaker 1: quarterback that we know he wants to like get in
Speaker 1: space and likes to throw the ball and things like that.
Speaker 1: So our job just when we had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: get him on the ground, just to make something happen.
Speaker 1: I think we did a solid job of that. But
Speaker 1: our job of the defense just to play complimentary football,
Speaker 1: calls turnovers and put our offensive position to make put
Speaker 1: and I think we did a solid Jovatan today we're
Speaker 1: talking with Juan Bentley. Juwan, you guys did a real
Speaker 1: nice job. I think against the run game. That's a
Speaker 1: good running team there with the Jets, even without their
Speaker 1: start running back. Um, you can you talk about the
Speaker 1: playoff in front of you and how the how the
Speaker 1: big guys looked and what that if that made your
Speaker 1: job any easier there on the second level, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: First of all, shout out to my big guys up front. Uh,
Speaker 1: we were definitely rely on them guys heavy expicially when
Speaker 1: it comes to running football teams. I think it did
Speaker 1: a solid job today. They just have a lot of
Speaker 1: dynamic money back that bring a lot of different things
Speaker 1: to the table. So us being able to step up
Speaker 1: and make and make plays as well as tackling uh
Speaker 1: these dynamic moneyfacts was big for us. So for us
Speaker 1: to get that done, it's definitely each Obviously that that
Speaker 1: run defense that you guys just talked about join, that's
Speaker 1: that was a big part of the success today for
Speaker 1: you guys on that side of the ball were you
Speaker 1: were a little surprised that, you you know, just looking
Speaker 1: at the statue at the end of the game, it's
Speaker 1: forty one pass attempts for Zach Wilson only fifteen rushing attempts.
Speaker 1: Do you think that was more because you guys were
Speaker 1: so successful stopping the run earlier, You're little prize they didn't.
Speaker 1: They didn't try to try the lock running the ball
Speaker 1: a little bit more often when it comes to getting
Speaker 1: on the other side of understanding their game plan, I'm
Speaker 1: not too sure about about all that, But I just
Speaker 1: know when when we had an opportunity to be able
Speaker 1: to stop the different run plays, to do a good
Speaker 1: job of drawing up different scheme plays for different teams, uh,
Speaker 1: to kind of get that run game going. So we
Speaker 1: just knew when the opportunity showed up, we had to
Speaker 1: make it happen. As far as them passing the ball
Speaker 1: as must really did, we don't. We don't have too
Speaker 1: much control over the album. But we just knew, uh,
Speaker 1: when a schoolboy hit a certain moment, they probably gonna
Speaker 1: throw the ball a little bit more. So hopefully that
Speaker 1: played a part. All Right, we'll leave it right there, Juan,
Speaker 1: congratulations on the win. Enjoy the rest of the night.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Have a good one, all right. Dad's
Speaker 1: Joan Juwan Bentley, linebacker for the Patriots there as they
Speaker 1: come away with a twenty two seventeen win over the Jets,
Speaker 1: doing large part to the defense, and you know that
Speaker 1: that whole unit's ability to really get after in the
Speaker 1: flumming Zack Wilson, although as you pointed out, you know
Speaker 1: it was one thing when Sam Darnold was seeing ghosts
Speaker 1: because he couldn't figure out what the coverage. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think Zach Wilson got confused at all. He
Speaker 1: saw the ghost, but he was like staring him down
Speaker 1: and throwing it right. He's trying to throw the ball
Speaker 1: away and he doesn't do it properly all the time,
Speaker 1: which I thought that was what made it, you know,
Speaker 1: so strange um or at least away from people. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm throwing it away, I'm running like he would get
Speaker 1: he would get himself out of trouble, out of the
Speaker 1: pocket run away, which now allows him to throw it
Speaker 1: away anywhere. And at least three times he threw it
Speaker 1: in a general direction of Patriots and one of them
Speaker 1: he got away with and two of them he didn't. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: this was not like the Sam Donald game where he's
Speaker 1: like confused and throwing it into a dropping guy or
Speaker 1: someone falling into a zone or whatever. This was. I
Speaker 1: just thought this was really, uh, just just three or
Speaker 1: four I don't think it's funny. I don't think he
Speaker 1: was like completely terrible all game. But they were about
Speaker 1: ten or twelve plays. I mean, that's obviously a huge amount, right,
Speaker 1: there were about ten or twelve plays. He looked like
Speaker 1: he had never played the position before. A couple of
Speaker 1: little throw us to the backs in the flat that
Speaker 1: he couldn't get to them. The throw at the end
Speaker 1: of the half that Bentley picked off was inexcusable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's an easy throw and catch for a first down,
Speaker 1: and they're going to get points at the end of
Speaker 1: the half. Instead, you give the Patriots points at the
Speaker 1: end of the half. You know, game game changing kind
Speaker 1: of plays, and you know these are these are the
Speaker 1: things that Zach Wilson's still trying to learn. Yeah, Oh,
Speaker 1: I thought he looked like last year's Jets game there,
Speaker 1: and it was that it was that same game where
Speaker 1: he was just throwing him left and right. Like I
Speaker 1: was laughing at myself the same way I was last year,
Speaker 1: like you gotta be Kidney. He's just I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I don't get it with him. And if I was
Speaker 1: a Jets fan, I imagine i'd be, you know, beside myself,
Speaker 1: because I think he had an opportunity. Today, I'd be
Speaker 1: more upset with with Sala and Michael Lafloora because I
Speaker 1: think that they decided that they wanted to do it
Speaker 1: like Cleveland did a couple of weeks ago, and say, well,
Speaker 1: we're not going to be able to run it on
Speaker 1: him because they're expecting us to run it. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna be tricky and we're going to throw it all
Speaker 1: over the place. And when you don't have a team
Speaker 1: that can do that, you're gonna lose. And today you're right, Mike,
Speaker 1: that they lost the game. You know, they they handed
Speaker 1: the opportunity for all those points two the Patriots because
Speaker 1: they refused to run the ball. If they had just
Speaker 1: run the ball and punted, they would have had a
Speaker 1: very good chance to win that game too. If Wilson
Speaker 1: took a couple of sacks, if you if you say
Speaker 1: zero turned overs for the for the Jets today and
Speaker 1: just run the ball and punt, they would have had
Speaker 1: a very good chance to win the game today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a big gift because it didn't happen. But I
Speaker 1: just think it's another one of those coaches that I
Speaker 1: think sort of got you know, you know, like a
Speaker 1: little too tricky for his own good. Yeah, it would
Speaker 1: appear that way, and uh, you know, for a team
Speaker 1: that had that kind of momentum playing at home, which
Speaker 1: isn't really much for the Jets this year. Jets are
Speaker 1: one and three at home. All three of their losses
Speaker 1: are at home. They've won four games on the road
Speaker 1: and are just much better, it seems like when they're
Speaker 1: when they're playing away from MetLife. And that's interesting because
Speaker 1: you know, you come in with this wind streak and
Speaker 1: you have to edge, and that those fans were fired up,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I don't want I don't know
Speaker 1: if the Patriots took the fans out of the game.
Speaker 1: But I think just like, did you ever feel like
Speaker 1: the fans were a factor? Like I felt like it
Speaker 1: was just a quiet day. I thought the fans were
Speaker 1: a factor until that roughing the passer call, and I
Speaker 1: thought that really I thought that really really took took
Speaker 1: the window. I think that there was a collective with
Speaker 1: still the Jets on that play, like, we have a
Speaker 1: chance here to to be we have a chance here
Speaker 1: to finally, you know, establish ourselves as a playoff team.
Speaker 1: And then I think they said was still the Jets, Yeah,
Speaker 1: bad things are going to happen to us in key spots.
Speaker 1: And you know that's what happened, you know, those those
Speaker 1: personal fouls. I like, I don't even like the call
Speaker 1: that they had on mostly which which you know started
Speaker 1: a drive that ended up with no points anyway, But
Speaker 1: that was a huge field position drive. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: he was short, he's running, he's diving for the first down,
Speaker 1: and he got hit not in the head, And I
Speaker 1: don't really even know what they called. I mean, Gene
Speaker 1: Stator came on and he clearly didn't agree with the
Speaker 1: call either. So I think there was a lot of
Speaker 1: that with the Jets, Like I could, I could see
Speaker 1: being a Jets fan today and just deciding halfway through
Speaker 1: we're not winning this game. Like every time we were
Speaker 1: in position to take control of the game, something bad
Speaker 1: happens and I could see the Jets this saying we're
Speaker 1: still the Jets and we still suck. Yeah, there was
Speaker 1: a very real sense of same old Jets going on there.
Speaker 1: I was getting text from a buddy that I went
Speaker 1: to college with him. He was like Jet beside himself
Speaker 1: the whole game. I'm sure with all the with all
Speaker 1: the things they were doing. Um, I mean listen, it
Speaker 1: was a one score get you know, they they're down
Speaker 1: there in the and made that a one score game
Speaker 1: with that last touchdown. Well, and they would down the
Speaker 1: other time before that's drawing the ball into the end zone.
Speaker 1: They just couldn't make any place. Yeah, um, it was.
Speaker 1: It was really it could have gone either way. Like
Speaker 1: they play again in two three weeks, right, uh, two
Speaker 1: weeks too, well, it's three because of the bye three
Speaker 1: they play Indie. Then they have a bye right yeah,
Speaker 1: Indie buy Jets, right not not by next week Indie
Speaker 1: buy Jets. Yeah, So they got to win them both.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Patriots have to win all three of
Speaker 1: these games, and it won't be easy. And based on
Speaker 1: what you saw today, you know it will not be easy.
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything today that I feel like as well.
Speaker 1: They own the Jets, They're gonna beat them NET in
Speaker 1: two week like this is no problem. They don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about this team. I don't think that game
Speaker 1: in two weeks at Gillette could be a could be
Speaker 1: a real barnburner. And I don't mean like a really
Speaker 1: fun exciting game, but like a grind it out got
Speaker 1: a win by one schools like today. Yeah, Deuce, do
Speaker 1: you want to kick us off on the on the
Speaker 1: bad list? Oh right, yeah, I'm gonna keep it going.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we have Mac at first. I
Speaker 1: mean I'm gonna I'm gonna lean into the past protection
Speaker 1: end of it. Um. I just think it's been atrocious
Speaker 1: all year long. I thought, Paul, you're you know, your
Speaker 1: comments from from PU about cold strange kind of came
Speaker 1: home to roost a little bit today And wouldn't you know,
Speaker 1: there's Isaiah Win playing guard bench. I just I think
Speaker 1: I get the past protection issues, and I'm stuck between
Speaker 1: knowing Mac doesn't look like he feels comfortable at all.
Speaker 1: And I don't know to blame Mac for that or
Speaker 1: to blame the past protection, because I think they're both
Speaker 1: at fault at various times. But you know, overall, I
Speaker 1: just think that they haven't established a pocket consistently this
Speaker 1: season anywhere close to enough. And until they do that,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're ever going to see Mac
Speaker 1: Jones find any confidence in the pocket or any ability
Speaker 1: to you know, go through a read without talking and running.
Speaker 1: And I mean those were some of their best plays
Speaker 1: once again or you know, Mac on the run. So
Speaker 1: I just think they got it. They got to figure
Speaker 1: out an answer on the past protection stuff, said Yanny Caduce,
Speaker 1: given him a try or what. But now you got
Speaker 1: winning a guard. Now you got cool strange kind of
Speaker 1: wondering what's going. I'm sure he'll be back in there,
Speaker 1: but it's just been a mess. Wow, And Carolina just
Speaker 1: missed a thirty three yard field goal and overtime. This
Speaker 1: is just bad. Um. Yeah, I think you make a
Speaker 1: great point, Deuce about Mac's role in the past protection,
Speaker 1: because I thought there were times early that he was
Speaker 1: under siege and got sacked, and then I thought there
Speaker 1: were times where he kind of had a decent pocket,
Speaker 1: and he was holding, holding, holding, and then got sacked.
Speaker 1: And then there were other times I thought he was
Speaker 1: just running for no reason. And he's not a runner.
Speaker 1: I know he ran once for a first down today. Great,
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's his forte. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's what he's gonna make a living doing. And I
Speaker 1: thought I thought the tackles were bad a guy. I
Speaker 1: thought Marcus Cannon was really bad in this game. I
Speaker 1: thought um cole Strange obviously lost his job after a while.
Speaker 1: I just thought they had some trouble overall in this
Speaker 1: game with pass protection. I think you you know the
Speaker 1: fact that you have to put Isaiah win in the
Speaker 1: game at left guard. I think um is telling yeah,
Speaker 1: um cole Strange in particular, I mean you sort of
Speaker 1: mentioned it without David Andrews in the middle. He kind
Speaker 1: of looked lost out there, and uh gave you saw it.
Speaker 1: You saw his face and you saw Cannon's face way
Speaker 1: too much. And I thought, I thought David Andrews has
Speaker 1: played really, really well. And I also thought, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a different name now, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just continue to call him Michael all when you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what is that actually right? So? I thought
Speaker 1: he played well. I thought he played well today. I
Speaker 1: saw a couple of times where he was he was
Speaker 1: knocking his guys around a little bit, you know, and
Speaker 1: I listen, I'm not an expert. I saw a couple
Speaker 1: of plays replays where I I you know, they showed
Speaker 1: him and he looked like he was pretty effective. But
Speaker 1: they had some problems elsewhere along that offensive line. They're
Speaker 1: gonna have to figure out right tackle. Mike is right
Speaker 1: about Jandi ka just I don't know if he can
Speaker 1: give them anything, but right now they're searching for answers.
Speaker 1: Um other badge? Can I go? Sure? The rest of
Speaker 1: the wide receiver group other than Jacoby Myers, I thought
Speaker 1: they had a real hard time getting open. I didn't
Speaker 1: think that they were I know, right, I mean, did
Speaker 1: they even go out there? Tequon Thornton one catch, Aglar
Speaker 1: one catch for two yards, um DeVante Parker got hurt,
Speaker 1: so he gets to pass here. Kendrick Borne targeted once,
Speaker 1: no catches. It's like they weren't even there. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think that's a good one thing.
Speaker 1: Kendrick was kind of a breakout game today. I think
Speaker 1: that's a little just a little bit short. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he had opportunities, he just wasn't. I just think
Speaker 1: they had a hard time. And I think the pick
Speaker 1: the Jets front uh you know Front four controlled the game.
Speaker 1: Uh you know really from start to finish. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: the Pagrits ended up with two hundred and eighty eight
Speaker 1: yards of offense in this game. I mean, if not
Speaker 1: for taking over in scoring position four times, they would
Speaker 1: have been hard pressed to get ten points in that game.
Speaker 1: So they had a long way to go still, Um,
Speaker 1: all right, any more bad. I thought the secondary wasn't
Speaker 1: great in this game. It just they they got bailed
Speaker 1: out by a quarterback who's not ready to take it
Speaker 1: full advantage. But um, as it was, he threw for
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty five yards and it wasn't all
Speaker 1: garbage time. There was only one play at the end,
Speaker 1: m you know there that that was you know, really
Speaker 1: tilted the numbers play. Yeah. I mean I thought Garrett
Speaker 1: Wilson was open consistently, Um you know, that was the guy,
Speaker 1: and they were missing their number one target, um in
Speaker 1: Corey Davis. So yeah, I thought the secondary wasn't great
Speaker 1: in this game. I don't know if you guys feel
Speaker 1: like I'm being a little bit too hard on him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you, Paul, And I thought that
Speaker 1: there were I can't see the all twenty two on
Speaker 1: the broadcast, but it looked like there were guys open. Um,
Speaker 1: there's one particular playoff this team that I was like,
Speaker 1: there it is, and he missed it. I think he
Speaker 1: missed a lot of throws. You have the big plays,
Speaker 1: giving up that play to men's at the end. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just, you know, come on, we get guys down,
Speaker 1: they close things out. I thought that the defense was,
Speaker 1: you know, overall okay considering who they're playing against. But
Speaker 1: I'm with you, I think nothing that they did today
Speaker 1: made me think that all that they're you know, got
Speaker 1: it on lockdown now or anything like that. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: run defense was better, but I didn't think really anything
Speaker 1: else was was markedly better from what I had seen
Speaker 1: in the recent past, you know, the Chicago game. Um.
Speaker 1: I also think we should spend some time talking about
Speaker 1: some coaching decisions today that I thought were kind of strange. Um.
Speaker 1: Fourth and one from your twenty one from the twenty one,
Speaker 1: you pass up a field goal in a game that
Speaker 1: had already had all the year marks of a low
Speaker 1: scoring game. I think points were valuable. Okay, so you
Speaker 1: go for it, and you know, I understand the whole notion. Well,
Speaker 1: we we had a play we felt good about, right,
Speaker 1: that was the play they felt good about. What exactly
Speaker 1: was the goal on that? The little play action fake
Speaker 1: in a role and there's like a one man right,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just looked terrible. Look like an
Speaker 1: RPO gun wrong. Yeah, it did look like an RPO gune. Wrong.
Speaker 1: I'd be curious to hear how Evan describes that one.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking the same thing. I'm like, I don't even
Speaker 1: know how to describe what that was. I'm like, was
Speaker 1: it like a play action? It was like he pulled
Speaker 1: it up and then he like Hunter Henry looked open
Speaker 1: for like a moment, and then Jacobe was going one way.
Speaker 1: They threw it the other way. I'm with you on
Speaker 1: that on that play call, I mean, and it's just
Speaker 1: you know, it's a understand what kind of game you're in, Like,
Speaker 1: that's my point points on the board. You need it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would throw in after the pick six that was
Speaker 1: nullified by the penalty, what do we do? Then they
Speaker 1: get a penalty, and then he just decides, like if
Speaker 1: you don't trust your quarterback that much at that time,
Speaker 1: that you're running two dive plays to vermondre Stevenson, followed
Speaker 1: by mac Jones taking a snap and running to the
Speaker 1: middle of the field to take a knee to set
Speaker 1: up a field goal. Like, I didn't understand what that
Speaker 1: was either. I mean, if you have that little faith
Speaker 1: and what's going on, maybe it's time to make a change.
Speaker 1: And then what I thought was really egregious, Mike, And
Speaker 1: you probably won't remember this because you're probably unconscious by
Speaker 1: the time you got to this part of the game.
Speaker 1: But it's twenty two to ten, twenty two to whatever
Speaker 1: it was, Yeah, twenty two to ten, and the Patriots
Speaker 1: have the ball and around their own twenty five yard line,
Speaker 1: about a seven or eight minutes left, and again the
Speaker 1: game's over for all intents and purposes, as long as
Speaker 1: you don't do something stupid. He comes out and throws
Speaker 1: a bomb down the sideline to Jacobe Myers incomplete, followed
Speaker 1: by a sack on the next play, followed by a
Speaker 1: little dump off over the middle, and then I have
Speaker 1: to hear when they punt and the Patriots before they punt,
Speaker 1: they allowed the play clock to go all the way
Speaker 1: down to one before they snapped it. And I have
Speaker 1: to hear Charles Davis telling me what a great how
Speaker 1: well coached they are because they let the playclock go down.
Speaker 1: They could have taken two minutes off the clock if
Speaker 1: they had just run the ball three times instead of
Speaker 1: getting you a quarterback lit up again for the sixth
Speaker 1: time of the game in a blowout, and then I
Speaker 1: just did that seem like the best way to milk
Speaker 1: the clock, throw a bomb and then have your quarterback
Speaker 1: get sacked. I don't think that was about milking the clock.
Speaker 1: I think that was about giving Mac a chance to
Speaker 1: go out there and have a drive where you can
Speaker 1: throw and he couldn't. I mean, it's you know, so
Speaker 1: I had three things that I just like. First, I
Speaker 1: put fourth and one what with a question mark late
Speaker 1: first half travesty I wrote? And then I just wrote
Speaker 1: coaching question mark at the end when they did it
Speaker 1: for the third time, I think that deserves second guessing.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm being nitpicky after a win.
Speaker 1: It's not the first time I'll get made fun of
Speaker 1: for that. Well, I mean, I'll piggyback a little bit
Speaker 1: on your fall because I just I mean I put
Speaker 1: the coaching just generally offensive coaching. You know, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to however you want to give it up. We
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what it is, so we'll just put
Speaker 1: it on all of them. But I'm watching this offense
Speaker 1: since August. It's the same thing. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: there's no real progression right now, and I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what they're doing. I mean, we can talk about Mac,
Speaker 1: we can talk about Patricia, we can talk about the
Speaker 1: play calls. Regardless of what it is. Other than Remondre Stevenson,
Speaker 1: there's nothing consistent or good about this offense. I completely agree.
Speaker 1: If not for like an incredible individual effort by Ramandre
Speaker 1: Stevenson to break three tackles in the backfield and run
Speaker 1: thirty five yards, that game might still be going. Like
Speaker 1: there was no separation in that game. That play, that
Speaker 1: singular played by Ramondre Stevenson was the difference, Like they
Speaker 1: couldn't get it, Like, you know, you could talk about
Speaker 1: the temple they used. After that, they did have a
Speaker 1: nice throw and catch, though the one catch by Thornton.
Speaker 1: I thought was the best looking pass play the Patriots
Speaker 1: had all day. In all seriousness that I thought that
Speaker 1: was terrific Playum, you know, Mac looked confident on his
Speaker 1: back foot, bang the balls out like twelve yard out. Nice,
Speaker 1: you know, but that was it they had, not like
Speaker 1: they had no rhythm. I think, Mike, you would tweeting
Speaker 1: during the game about like everything is a grind, Like
Speaker 1: how many plays did they have in this game where
Speaker 1: they got the first down by a half a yard
Speaker 1: on a ball that was thrown about four yards behind
Speaker 1: the line, behind the line the game, you know, and
Speaker 1: there and you're like greeting your teeth is as like
Speaker 1: Johnny Smith get it by like right, you know, and
Speaker 1: give them credit for getting enough yards to win the game.
Speaker 1: But like in terms of an offensive plan, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure where it was. And it's like you talk about
Speaker 1: you get to this point in the season, Paul. You've
Speaker 1: heard Bill Belichick's day it all the time, right, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, you get the six seven games mid October
Speaker 1: late October, you start to understand what you have and
Speaker 1: the Jets are good And I will say the Jets
Speaker 1: are good on defense, Like I'm not discounting that the
Speaker 1: Jets are the Jets are a good defensive team, and
Speaker 1: they played really well defensively today, But I've seen that
Speaker 1: offense more often than not. This is just there's no
Speaker 1: identity to this offense at all. There's been no progression. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know where they're heading and where where they
Speaker 1: go from now. It's I don't know. I feel like
Speaker 1: we saw it similarly. Um. It's just it's frustrating because
Speaker 1: other than Stevenson, you don't really have anything that you
Speaker 1: feel like, here's what we can build off of. I mean,
Speaker 1: like Christian said, you came out of the game with
Speaker 1: like two guys basically catching all the balls, and one
Speaker 1: of them was the running back who did all them
Speaker 1: work carrying the ball. Yeah. I mean, if we if
Speaker 1: we were worried about him being a little worn down
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, I mean, that was a
Speaker 1: pounding he took today. He didn't get any easy yards
Speaker 1: in that game. Boy. Yeah, six for nineteen on third down.
Speaker 1: I mean that's dreadful. And I think they were like
Speaker 1: something like four for their first six, right, well, but
Speaker 1: I mean every drive is like six seven. I mean,
Speaker 1: if they if they're even able to get them. They're
Speaker 1: multiple third danks because there's no really well that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why they had nineteen attempts. Right from the first
Speaker 1: drive of the game, Mike, they take over on the
Speaker 1: forty five yard though the Jets had a twenty two
Speaker 1: yard punt on their first possession, allowing the Patriots to
Speaker 1: set up shop first and ten from the Jets forty five,
Speaker 1: three and out. Like they took over inside the Jets
Speaker 1: forty like four times and came away with six points.
Speaker 1: Like it was bad. I mean even on the second
Speaker 1: drive pot me, I was just looking at it, writing
Speaker 1: it on my notes, like a third and ten, a
Speaker 1: third and eleven, a third and five, like another third
Speaker 1: down that they didn't get, Like, so four third downs.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're asking so much of an offense that's
Speaker 1: already so limited. How many third down play calls the
Speaker 1: napishers that have on that cart of his, Like by
Speaker 1: the middle of data second quarter, he's probably called ninety
Speaker 1: percent of them? Yeah, I mean that's why, you know,
Speaker 1: and I listen, I started off the whole show. I said, no,
Speaker 1: no style points. I'm not you know, I'm just looking
Speaker 1: big picture. Today they had a win and they won,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of things that would like all
Speaker 1: the things that concern me heading into the game remain
Speaker 1: huge concerns for me. By the way, quick red zone update,
Speaker 1: the Falcons got a game winning field goal from young
Speaker 1: way Coup and they improved the three and four good
Speaker 1: enough for first place in the NFC South. So congratulations
Speaker 1: to them. Very nice, very nice for the Falcons, and
Speaker 1: or maybe another four and four right, because I don't
Speaker 1: think this is updated yet, but either way, I think
Speaker 1: they are four and four and other puts them ahead
Speaker 1: of the Bucks at three and five. Yes, well, you know,
Speaker 1: very very strong division there, as the Panthers had a
Speaker 1: chance in overtime, didn't didn't take it, and the Falcons
Speaker 1: end up winning that game and now leading in the division.
Speaker 1: So there you go if you were looking for a
Speaker 1: red zone update. All right, I think we got all
Speaker 1: our goods and our bads out of the way injured.
Speaker 1: Well obviously, um a bunch of guys went in the
Speaker 1: tent today. Stevenson went in the tent, Myers went in
Speaker 1: the tent. Obviously, Parker left the game, but it seemed
Speaker 1: like a lot of guys were I don't know, stepping
Speaker 1: awkwardly landing, awkwardly coming down sort of on their on
Speaker 1: their knee, getting twisted. I saw Mac at one point
Speaker 1: and on one of the sacks, it looked like his
Speaker 1: leg got twisted around a little bit. It seems like
Speaker 1: these guys are just I don't know, maybe it's just
Speaker 1: bad luck, but it seemed like there maybe it was
Speaker 1: good luck in this case, and none of them had
Speaker 1: any real serious injuries other than Parker. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: realize Myers was in the tent. Um I missed that. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, there was some guys. You know, Stevenson obviously
Speaker 1: finished the game. Yeah, so um, whatever he was dealing
Speaker 1: with wasn't severe enough that he wasn't ask too. Maybe
Speaker 1: it wasn't Myers in the tent Maybe he was getting
Speaker 1: like rubbed down. Remember that Phillips. Phillips was too at
Speaker 1: one point, but I don't think he missed any time.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this was a physical game. I Like I said,
Speaker 1: I give the Jets defense a lot of credit. They
Speaker 1: will put on the field in a lot of bad,
Speaker 1: bad situations today, And to only allow twenty two points
Speaker 1: in that situation I thought was really good. Yeah what
Speaker 1: what I'm kind of wondering is what's the extent of
Speaker 1: the Parker injury? Does that impact their potential trade options?
Speaker 1: You know, I mean you didn't see anything out of
Speaker 1: Bagalore or Born in the game as well, So you know,
Speaker 1: how do those factors kind of come into things over
Speaker 1: the next two days as the trade deadline comes down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a good point, a real good point for you. Um.
Speaker 1: I guess Bill Belichick's talking right now. We'll hear from
Speaker 1: him in just a minute. We'll be hearing from Mac
Speaker 1: Jones a little bit later on as well. Um, Doug
Speaker 1: Kie just tweeted that Romandri ste Stevenson had seventy one
Speaker 1: rushing yards today. He uh, eight yards after contact. They
Speaker 1: can't know eighty one yards after contact. How could he
Speaker 1: have seventy one rushing yards in eighty one yards after contact?
Speaker 1: I guess maybe on some of the passes too, But yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. He was really tough to bring down. I'm
Speaker 1: not smart enough to do PF math. Yeah, um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he was the he carried, he carried the day.
Speaker 1: He reminds me of a thing I saw last night. Mike.
Speaker 1: You'll like this, you know, every once and I like
Speaker 1: to delve into like nonsensical non sequitis. So I'm out
Speaker 1: last night at a restaurant, Mike waiting, waiting for Beth,
Speaker 1: and I'm watching a college football game and uh, they
Speaker 1: put up it's Illinois and Nebraska playing, and at the time,
Speaker 1: Illinois had like a twenty to nine lead, and they
Speaker 1: put up a graphic the first four drafts Nebraska four
Speaker 1: four first four possessions, something like twenty eight plays, two
Speaker 1: hundred and whatever yards and ten points. And I'm like, hmm,
Speaker 1: how did they have ten points on the first four
Speaker 1: drives but only have nine points in the game? Did
Speaker 1: I miss PF math again? Seriously it said they had
Speaker 1: ten points on their first four drives. No points since
Speaker 1: so did they lose a point because they was so
Speaker 1: bad offensively in the last four drives they deducted a point? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: So anyway, I didn't get it, but I gotta stay. Overall,
Speaker 1: not a strong day for the downstairs. I mean you
Speaker 1: mentioned the Ona Wanu thing. Uh they're talking about the
Speaker 1: on Mac with with the penalty on U the linebacker. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm blanking on his Then when he came over C J. Mosley,
Speaker 1: you know they always hit him in the handlet he
Speaker 1: didn't he supposed to do. He's trying to get the
Speaker 1: right of the game. You're right there, like supposed to
Speaker 1: the tack room, but avoid his head while he goes
Speaker 1: to the ground. Yeah, when he's not. He clearly was not.
Speaker 1: They kept saying he was giving himself up. He clearly
Speaker 1: was not. And to Max, to Max's credit, by the way,
Speaker 1: Mack is saying, I need to get to the twenty
Speaker 1: to get this first down. I can't give myself up,
Speaker 1: and he didn't. But he got built out with the
Speaker 1: penalty anyway, and that like that didn't lead to any
Speaker 1: points because that drive ended up in the fourth down stop.
Speaker 1: But that allows like a whole change of field position.
Speaker 1: All that time goes off the clock that the Patriots
Speaker 1: have the ball in the Jets defense is forced to work. Uh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Not a great day by the announcers. Not a great
Speaker 1: great day for the officiating crew either. I think when
Speaker 1: Matt got hit by Mosley, I thought it was I
Speaker 1: thought there was going to be your prod because he
Speaker 1: went he it sort of was like one of those
Speaker 1: hits where he just kind of stopped in his tracks
Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, halfway down on his knees,
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh no, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: heard at a time, Like I wasn't sure at halftime, Duce,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you heard it. But Boomer was openly
Speaker 1: wondering why he was still in the game. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: felt like he felt like there was a you know,
Speaker 1: a moment where he laid down, you know, with his
Speaker 1: like are we going that far now? Because the guy
Speaker 1: takes a hard hit, he has to come out of
Speaker 1: the game. Like, I mean, I'm not telling you he
Speaker 1: didn't did or didn't have a concussion or anything, but
Speaker 1: like we're just gonna automatically assume guys that get hit
Speaker 1: have a concussion. And I saw what he was talking about, though,
Speaker 1: but I felt that was more like one of those
Speaker 1: like mac dramatics, dram mackticks. I guess you could call it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know that he kind of does when
Speaker 1: he goes down where he you know, like all of
Speaker 1: a sudden slumps like he was dead for like a millisecond.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's funny because you're right, like, what did
Speaker 1: he gets caught doing that like with his you know,
Speaker 1: little antics and then all of a sudden you're out
Speaker 1: of the game. Concussion protocol, trying to pull up right,
Speaker 1: I did the h I did the Mike mac Jones
Speaker 1: voice on the fourth down that they went forward and
Speaker 1: got the touchdown. Did you see him when he gestured
Speaker 1: to the sideline like we got, like he was saying
Speaker 1: with going for it, Ye, we'll go win, We'll go win. Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right. If he didn't kick anybody in the he
Speaker 1: did not, not that we saw anyway. If he did it,
Speaker 1: he did it off camera. All right, there you go.
Speaker 1: There's you're good, you're bad, and you're injured. Here is
Speaker 1: the Patriots come away with a twenty two seventeen win
Speaker 1: over the Jets and MetLife Stadium in New Jersey. It
Speaker 1: was again not a pretty win, but a win's win.
Speaker 1: Patriots now up, but five hundreds, still in last place.
Speaker 1: They had no chance of getting out of last place
Speaker 1: in the division with a win or a loss or
Speaker 1: anything today. Right, they didn't even get into a tie. Right,
Speaker 1: but there's the one step closer as the Jets now
Speaker 1: fall to five in three. The Dolphins won today and
Speaker 1: uh one of the Bills play they played tomorrow tonight?
Speaker 1: Are they're playing to tonight? That is correct? Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: playing Green Bay to night. You're right about that. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, we have we can't take calls because we're
Speaker 1: gonna lose Douce, so we want to take some emails.
Speaker 1: Well you're gonna lose me soon anyway, so all right, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: well we'll kiss Deuce goodbye and um, so we could
Speaker 1: we could take the calls. Um, we can't put him
Speaker 1: on hold, can we? So we can match us? Threw
Speaker 1: up his hand. All right, Well we'll try. You know,
Speaker 1: if Mike feels better, you can call back in later. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get to the calls because they've been waiting. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and do that. We'll start with Eddie,
Speaker 1: who is in Alabama and has been waiting very very patiently. Eddie,
Speaker 1: thanks for waiting. How you doing all right? How y'all
Speaker 1: doing doing great? All right, Hey, Paul made like half
Speaker 1: my point already. But it's like bigger than what he said.
Speaker 1: Belichick does not like he has no faith in Mac.
Speaker 1: It's like on the on the second drive of the game,
Speaker 1: where you know, they had third and goal from the seventeen,
Speaker 1: they do not throw the ball in the end zone.
Speaker 1: They ran a you know, vermondre for five yards like
Speaker 1: I predicted in my mind before that play, and it
Speaker 1: was like I didn't have a huge problem with that one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean in the in the scope of
Speaker 1: the game, when they clearly had exhibited, UM several times
Speaker 1: that they weren't thrilled with the way that things were going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. But like it's like psychological too, because like
Speaker 1: he pulled back last game and it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: you got to show confidence in him, like let him
Speaker 1: throw the ball into the end zone, yo, Yeah, at
Speaker 1: least have faith that you will throw it out of
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone if no one's open. Right.
Speaker 1: They didn't even do that, right, No, I agree, But
Speaker 1: I mean I'm just saying from the seventeen, the way
Speaker 1: the pass rush was going the seventeen, you know, third
Speaker 1: and goals a very low percentage of play. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think that he's the way
Speaker 1: that Bill coached today. He coached like a guy. He
Speaker 1: coached the way Robert Sala should have coached. Um. He
Speaker 1: coached like a guy that wasn't really comfortable with his quarterback. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ala did the same thing. I think, like I said,
Speaker 1: we'd still be playing. Yeah, you're right, about that, and
Speaker 1: it's probably been built up nine to nine. Um, Daniel
Speaker 1: is in Springfield. Go ahead, Daniel, all right, Daniel, sorry,
Speaker 1: buddy party, Let's try Big te who was in Florida.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, big Tea. What's up? Guys? What's up? Big Tea?
Speaker 1: Conspiracy theory? I like it. When the Patriots signed Cam
Speaker 1: Newton from twenty twenty one before the draft and Matt
Speaker 1: Jones miraculously dropped a fifteen, don't you think that Belichick
Speaker 1: was thinking one of those running quarterbacks Lance or Fields
Speaker 1: was going to drop to him. I think, well, he
Speaker 1: had every opportunity to take Fields if he wanted to field.
Speaker 1: He was available at eleven. Gone up. But but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying like that, like genius was letting, but Chicago
Speaker 1: went from twenty to eleven, so you ease, he could
Speaker 1: have gone from fifteen to eleven for less than what Chicago.
Speaker 1: So so if you wanted Justin Fields, he was there
Speaker 1: for the taking. So I don't think they wanted Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: I just had a field and that signing Cam that
Speaker 1: was kind of the going to be their guy that
Speaker 1: would teach the new guy coming in. But anyway, I'm
Speaker 1: a Mac guy. I think Mac is fine. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they signed Cam just to make sure they had
Speaker 1: a quarterback and if they if they weren't able to
Speaker 1: draft one, you know, I think things would have been different.
Speaker 1: I think Cam would have been there to play. Like,
Speaker 1: there's no guarantee it at fifteen, you were going to
Speaker 1: get one of those quarterbacks, right, So I think they
Speaker 1: signed Cam just in case they weren't able to get one. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're right about that, and they did it
Speaker 1: so late into the season. Um, all right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take a quick break here before we do. He's talking
Speaker 1: about the second time when they resigned him, when they
Speaker 1: resigned before the draft. Of course. Yeah, we thank cyber
Speaker 1: Reason presenters of the Patriots postgame show. Great defenders don't
Speaker 1: just play in the field. They're also protecting your company
Speaker 1: and your ada. Cyber Reason on a mission to end
Speaker 1: ransomware keep your business undefeated against cyber attacks. Learn more
Speaker 1: at cyberreason dot com slash ransom. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: here on Patriot's postgame Touch of You Interactive from the
Speaker 1: Ooker's Company offers New England's leading schools and businesses technologically
Speaker 1: advanced and easy to use interactive displays, providing enhanced collaboration
Speaker 1: and improved student outcomes in the classroom, and an easy
Speaker 1: way to foster communication and teamwork in any business environment.
Speaker 1: Available in multiple sizes, touch View also offers a built
Speaker 1: in VC allowing for easy use through video conference systems.
Speaker 1: For more information, visit okres dot com. This is the
Speaker 1: Galette Labs with exfoliating bar. The bar in the handle
Speaker 1: removes unseen dirtain debris ahead of the blades for effortless
Speaker 1: saving in one efficient stroke. Defending against cyber attacks requires
Speaker 1: seen in the dark, understanding and any every correct to
Speaker 1: your organization on computers, Moogle and clouds. It takes reason
Speaker 1: in cyber attacks from inputs to everywhere. Touch of You
Speaker 1: Interactive from the Ooker's Company offers New England's leading schools
Speaker 1: and businesses technologically advanced and easy to use interactive displays,
Speaker 1: providing enhanced collaboration and improved student outcomes in the classroom
Speaker 1: and an easy way to foster communication and teamwork in
Speaker 1: any business environment. Available in multiple sizes, touch View also
Speaker 1: offers a built in VC allowing for easy use through
Speaker 1: video conference systems. For more information, visit okres dot com.
Speaker 1: This is the Gillette Labs with exfoliating bar. The bar
Speaker 1: in the handle removes unseen dirtain debris ahead of the
Speaker 1: blades for effortless saving in one efficient stroke. Defending against
Speaker 1: cyber attacks requires seen in the dark, understanding and in
Speaker 1: every thrift to your organization on computers, local, any clouds.
Speaker 1: It takes cyber reason any cyber attacks from endpoints to everywhere.
Speaker 1: Join the conversation by calling the A Sticket hotline at
Speaker 1: eight five five PATS five hundred, or email the show
Speaker 1: at web radio at Patriots dot com. Then on the
Speaker 1: second angle you see him walking away. I'm like, oh Jesus,
Speaker 1: he's huge. Live from our studios inside Gillette Stadium. Here's
Speaker 1: Christian Arcan. All right, and we're back here at is
Speaker 1: Patriots Postgame Patriots dot Com and hey Pats fans, I'm
Speaker 1: here to tell you all about NFL All Day. With
Speaker 1: NFL All Day, all your favorite Patriots highlights become digital
Speaker 1: video collectibles called moments. Not only can you buy and
Speaker 1: sell them on a secure marketplace full of thousands of
Speaker 1: NFL fans, you can also use them to compete in
Speaker 1: epic game day challenges. Check it out and find some
Speaker 1: moments from all your favorite Patriots players on NFL all
Speaker 1: day dot com. We'll hear from Bill Belichick in just
Speaker 1: a moment. In the meantime, should we continue with some
Speaker 1: phone calls? Want to read some emails? What do you
Speaker 1: feel like doing your play? Howhy don't you take the
Speaker 1: calls first and then maybe Mike can call back in
Speaker 1: and rejoin us. Does he have to? Well? I think
Speaker 1: I think that's what he's thinking. All right, let's go
Speaker 1: to David, who was in New York. Ahead, David, Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: that's a going it's going fair to Midland. Well, uh,
Speaker 1: sorry for the connection issues on Monday and night. You
Speaker 1: missed my Monday and I ran I was about to
Speaker 1: do maybe I spared you, But it's a new week.
Speaker 1: Feels good to beat a division rival, although I still
Speaker 1: feel a bit uneasy overall about the whole the whole situation.
Speaker 1: The takeaways were nice, but it is Zach Wilson that
Speaker 1: we did it against. I'm still not convinced of either
Speaker 1: our offense, especially a red zone offense, and really our
Speaker 1: defense in general. Um, yeah, I'd agree that wasn't really
Speaker 1: a reassuring victory. Yeah, I mean yeah, And I don't
Speaker 1: want to sound overly negative, but it is one of
Speaker 1: those games that it's hard to feel great about other
Speaker 1: than the fact that the season still you know, we
Speaker 1: still have a season. I think if they lost at
Speaker 1: three and five, you know, you'd be hard pressed to
Speaker 1: get back in and given the tough schedule they're going
Speaker 1: to have down the stretch. But it's hard to feel
Speaker 1: great about the way that game unfolded, I know. And
Speaker 1: it's weird because it was a division win, it was
Speaker 1: on the road. It may have saved the season by
Speaker 1: getting him back to four and four, and we're all
Speaker 1: still sitting here going like, well, because here's the thing is,
Speaker 1: And I wasn't the only one that said it. Everybody
Speaker 1: said that the Jets were five and two, but they
Speaker 1: were a fake five and two, and they really didn't
Speaker 1: do anything to deserve it. So you can't, you know,
Speaker 1: in retrospects, say no, that was five and two on
Speaker 1: the road they beat No, you can't say that, because
Speaker 1: the Jets were exactly what they've been. You know, they're
Speaker 1: they're good defensively, and they're they're challenged offensively, and then
Speaker 1: they fell behind and they had to have their quarterback
Speaker 1: throw when he can't and that's why you won the game. Yeah. True,
Speaker 1: is let's go to speed. Who is in Fresno? What's
Speaker 1: up Speed? It's going on? I guess Scepter. Last week
Speaker 1: it was with the Bears. You know, we learned it's
Speaker 1: not like we can beat that team. Maybe now it's
Speaker 1: like we can sometimes beat teams that play badly, which
Speaker 1: is not that great a place to be. I wanted
Speaker 1: to know. It's kind of like a question for fred Um,
Speaker 1: is this is this kind of a moral loss a
Speaker 1: moral loss? No, because that's because I think they had
Speaker 1: to win the game and they did. I understand what
Speaker 1: you're saying, but I'm not I've got a big fan
Speaker 1: of the moral victories and the moral defeats. I mean,
Speaker 1: if this happened against like Carolina, maybe, I mean, I
Speaker 1: just like, I know a lot of people are like
Speaker 1: when they you know, they lose to Green Bay in
Speaker 1: overtime and it's like that was like a win. No,
Speaker 1: well a weird. It's like what the Jets did in
Speaker 1: Green Bay, right, they won. They had more points than
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. And by the way,
Speaker 1: that's why you're behind them. So when you win, like
Speaker 1: it's it's it's there's nothing you don't give it back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just trying to have a little fun with them more.
Speaker 1: It is a stupid concept, but I had one other one.
Speaker 1: Um wi um, he's kind of an amazing story this
Speaker 1: this year. And I'm I'm just asking putting out there
Speaker 1: in the ether, can you guys do like a little
Speaker 1: like deep dive on him or just kind of kind
Speaker 1: of figure out what like interview him or something, figure
Speaker 1: out why it is that he thinks his season has
Speaker 1: been so special. We interviewed him two weeks ago last
Speaker 1: time I was here, he was our player, and I
Speaker 1: asked him I have I didn't ask him exactly that,
Speaker 1: but I said, you know, you're really kind of blown
Speaker 1: up this year. Uh is this? You know? And he's
Speaker 1: a late bloomer too. Dietrich wise, like for his first
Speaker 1: couple of years in the NFL was largely inconsequential. In
Speaker 1: this year, he's been a major factor on that on
Speaker 1: that front, right, Um, all right, let's try uh Maddox,
Speaker 1: who was in Washington? What's up? Maddox? Uh yo? Uh,
Speaker 1: I will say the D line like you were saying. Uh,
Speaker 1: the D line has been absolutely like it has been
Speaker 1: as since I feel like since that Jude On signing
Speaker 1: last year, our d line has just gotten absolutely it's
Speaker 1: it's it's like one of the best in the league.
Speaker 1: I would say, at least to me, I maybe a
Speaker 1: Patriots defensive line still. I mean to me, maybe there's
Speaker 1: a little bit of biased there. But overall, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, you do you don't get it, but he's
Speaker 1: leaving the league in sacks, I mean, and then you
Speaker 1: have other people coming off the edge. I mean that's
Speaker 1: a very big upgrading. And um but on offense, like
Speaker 1: our offense is, I feel like there's almost kind of
Speaker 1: like a disconnect between I feel between like the players
Speaker 1: both with the mac Jones and then daily Zappy comes
Speaker 1: back and forth in UM and I feel like that's
Speaker 1: kind of throwing people off. I feel like that if
Speaker 1: you guys get guys kind of get what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: agree that the defensive line is the best in the league.
Speaker 1: I think last week didn't happen apparently, yeah right, I
Speaker 1: mean they didn't do much last year. The defensive line
Speaker 1: couldn't do much against justin fields. I do think they
Speaker 1: played great today, and they've had other examps. They were
Speaker 1: okay today, I thought were good. The Jets. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I think they're okay. But the Jets didn't run the
Speaker 1: ball like they ran the ball fifteen times. I think
Speaker 1: when they ran it the Patriots deep of line. I
Speaker 1: think you you called him out to as being on
Speaker 1: the good list, and I would agree with you. M Christian.
Speaker 1: I thought the Jets that the Jets didn't run the
Speaker 1: ball well enough to continue to run it, and I
Speaker 1: think that was because of the Patriots front. But I
Speaker 1: mean the last time we saw them, they got run
Speaker 1: all over and that's three times this year that that's
Speaker 1: happened in eight games. Yeah, I mean, I think Matthew
Speaker 1: Geedon has been an effective pass rusher. I don't really
Speaker 1: look at him as a defensive lineman and look at
Speaker 1: him as more of a linebacker. But that would be
Speaker 1: about it. That would be where where it ends for me.
Speaker 1: I think Dietrich Wise has had a nice season, but
Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to confuse him with some
Speaker 1: of the better players in the game. The Jets are
Speaker 1: also down four starting tackles and Elijah Vera Tucker right
Speaker 1: if you didn't and breecelife. You didn't stop him today.
Speaker 1: You weren't stopping anyone ever. Yeah, that's another good point. Um.
Speaker 1: They're a nice little trick play for the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty nine ers with a touchdown pass I think from
Speaker 1: Jeff Wilson to Brandon Ayuk to tie that game at
Speaker 1: seven in la very nice. It's still weird to see
Speaker 1: McCaffrey on the Niners, isn't it. That's really weird. Every
Speaker 1: once in a while I get traded or something. He's
Speaker 1: on a new team. You see him in the jersey
Speaker 1: and it's like, really, McCaffrey on the Niners as weird
Speaker 1: as hell to me for some reason. Um, we got
Speaker 1: Duce back with Upduce. Hey, guys, I'm back. Good, glad
Speaker 1: to have you a little while. I know it's a
Speaker 1: grind for all of us today, but hey, credit to us.
Speaker 1: How about putting all us all on the on the
Speaker 1: on the uplift today? You know they should have interviewed
Speaker 1: us after they are you now weird a Dodgers hat?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Ye? Sorry, I have issues. My
Speaker 1: took was getting too cold, was getting too hot for me. Paul, Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't have a. I didn't have a handy Danny
Speaker 1: Patriots hat. So you know this is I'll get you
Speaker 1: a Fenwick football hat to wear next week. I'll take
Speaker 1: it outside. I might have to buy a holy Cross
Speaker 1: football hat after that performance yesterday. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys talked about that yet. Probably I'm guessing. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't remember talking about that, but I do remember
Speaker 1: earlier in the show due saying that I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised if because I hear that you get mistaken for
Speaker 1: Zolac a lot. Is that correct? Oh? Once? I like
Speaker 1: la once, But yeah I'm not. I'm nowhere near no.
Speaker 1: But you can be if you could go to Vegas
Speaker 1: and be like a zolak impersonator, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you could wresting right you jump out of a
Speaker 1: plane and you know what I mean. Just you know
Speaker 1: you're the Zolac guy. You could You could do that, definitely,
Speaker 1: you got you got to. I could do parties in
Speaker 1: New England. Hey, It's like I'm Scot lak impersonator. I'll
Speaker 1: come to your party and be like yeah, and I'll
Speaker 1: play you know, Josie while I come out of my car. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pump everybody up, and um, that sounds great. Paul. If
Speaker 1: you were wondering what we talked about when you went
Speaker 1: to to go do your hit there in the pregame,
Speaker 1: it was it was this. It was this, Paul Might
Speaker 1: five five, Pats five hundred is the phone number web
Speaker 1: radio at Patriots dot com. We'll be hearing from Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick in a few minutes. He spoke now for very long.
Speaker 1: I think he only spoke for a few minutes, four minutes.
Speaker 1: So yeah, when we when we're able to, will we'll
Speaker 1: throw to that and uh and hear from him. Will
Speaker 1: also hear from Mac Jones. I'd be interested in you
Speaker 1: what he thinks about this game and how he played today.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you get a win, you
Speaker 1: feel good about that, but you know, he continued, it
Speaker 1: wasn't his fault, but he continued his interception streak. Um,
Speaker 1: he was outplayed in a lot of way. Let's pump
Speaker 1: the brakes on. It wasn't his fault that he didn't
Speaker 1: He did his best, He did his best to throw three. Well, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying the actual interception, Yeah, the actual interception
Speaker 1: on him. I thought, yeah, it was more on him,
Speaker 1: but like I think Deuce's point earlier about his pocket
Speaker 1: awareness today, the fumble was on him, you know, not
Speaker 1: every strip sack is the fault of the offensive line,
Speaker 1: and that fumble was totally avoidable. Yeah, I think his
Speaker 1: presence in the pocket. I think Mike made a really
Speaker 1: good point about that earlier. There was one play the
Speaker 1: question yes ahead, just when he threw that pick stick.
Speaker 1: I mean, did you lose your mind like I did?
Speaker 1: I just I couldn't believe that that play. I thought
Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy would play the second half Mike, and I'm
Speaker 1: not kidding. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, It's just it's too much
Speaker 1: of that. It's continuing. I mean it's been that way
Speaker 1: through the season. I don't get why he's got these
Speaker 1: brain parts now. And I mean we can talk about
Speaker 1: pushing the ball down the field and all this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, but like what happened to Mac Jones the
Speaker 1: last year, who just made better decisions, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't need to get all caught up in the
Speaker 1: new show. Yeah, and today wasn't. And to you a
Speaker 1: point like, today wasn't like oh we're chucking it all
Speaker 1: over the place, we're going downfield. Everything was underneath today
Speaker 1: and that pick. You know, the pick six was just
Speaker 1: an out. I mean it wasn't like a you know,
Speaker 1: a downfield shot play or anything like that. Like he's
Speaker 1: fighting through whatever. You know. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: reasons are. I'm not smart enough to know, you know,
Speaker 1: the ins and outs as to what's going on. But
Speaker 1: he's not comfortable, and I don't think every looked settled
Speaker 1: in that game today. No, I don't think so either.
Speaker 1: And one thing about having a second year quarterback who
Speaker 1: was a pro bowler in the first year is that
Speaker 1: you really start looking for improvement in progression in the
Speaker 1: second year. And even with this win, I feel like
Speaker 1: there was no improvement, no real progression. He's the same guy,
Speaker 1: if not maybe a little worse than he was last
Speaker 1: year because of the injury and the new coaches and
Speaker 1: the new offense and all that stuff. But not one time,
Speaker 1: really even one quarter this year, have I looked at
Speaker 1: mac Jones and thought, man, he's really taking that next step,
Speaker 1: He's really improving, He's really becoming the quarterback that can
Speaker 1: lead this team into the next generation. Like I just
Speaker 1: it's no, there's been no indication of that this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were talking about but like you hoped, like coming
Speaker 1: into the season, you know, coming into the preseason in
Speaker 1: the summer, and you're watching it. All right, it's a
Speaker 1: little punky right now, but like, all right, they're doing
Speaker 1: it to get to a place where they need to be.
Speaker 1: And I still generally agree that you can't just run
Speaker 1: short stuff and think that you're going to be able
Speaker 1: to compete in this NFL. But it's just the lack
Speaker 1: of progression, the lack of identity on offense, the lack
Speaker 1: of anything other than they're just grinding it out at
Speaker 1: four point two yards to play, and that's what it's like.
Speaker 1: Down sixteen plays to go sixty yards. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just too much. And I don't know what the answer is.
Speaker 1: I don't know what pieces you pull out of this
Speaker 1: whole game and say, oh, this is what we can
Speaker 1: build off of. I mean, other than Ramondras Stevenson, it's like, man,
Speaker 1: you're just you're just hoping to survive your own passing game.
Speaker 1: We were talking about during the game, even when he
Speaker 1: had a pocket and had rohim to throw, you know,
Speaker 1: there was only a few of those plays, but when
Speaker 1: he had him, he was still fading away, still off
Speaker 1: the back foot, still floating a lot, and you know,
Speaker 1: guys were open, Guys were there. I heard Mike say
Speaker 1: that earlier. The plays were there to be made, and
Speaker 1: he's just so uncomfortable and so in his own head
Speaker 1: that he's just not making them. And it's it's infuriating
Speaker 1: to watch because the plays are there to be made
Speaker 1: and he's just not making them. Yeah, there was one play.
Speaker 1: We talked about this when it happened. You were talking
Speaker 1: about his pocket presence and like feeling the pressure. There
Speaker 1: was one play where there was a guy coming right
Speaker 1: at him and he just did holding the ball. That
Speaker 1: was the fumble that the Yeah, I mean that was
Speaker 1: um faked with a guy coming right in front of him.
Speaker 1: He pump faked. I don't know what Mac's peripheral vision
Speaker 1: situation is like, apparently not good. How could you not
Speaker 1: see that he's right here, he's right on his on
Speaker 1: his hip. Yeah, And on one hand, you'd like to say, well,
Speaker 1: that's a good job of keeping your eyes focused downfield
Speaker 1: and not watching the rushes, but you have to have
Speaker 1: some awareness and when the ball, when you can't put
Speaker 1: the ball in harm's way. That was very fortunate, you know,
Speaker 1: not only the Patriots end up recovering that, but that
Speaker 1: could have been like it's scorts free. When when you
Speaker 1: get fumbles like that to go behind the quarterback, there's
Speaker 1: no one there that's one that can get picked up
Speaker 1: and scooped, you know and going the other way in
Speaker 1: a hurry. M Fortunately, I think, you know, for the Patriots,
Speaker 1: they were able. One of the linemen was able to
Speaker 1: get on it. But this is what I said, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's protect the ball, right, no turnovers, like
Speaker 1: they only turn it over once, but not for a
Speaker 1: lack of trying. Those are plays where the quarterback gets
Speaker 1: knocked out sometimes too. He wasn't he didn't see the
Speaker 1: front side rush and we've killed other quarterbacks for that
Speaker 1: on this very show. And he got hit hard. It
Speaker 1: just hit him the right way. But he's been very
Speaker 1: loose with the ball and it's it's continuing. It's not
Speaker 1: getting any better, and they got to figure that out
Speaker 1: because it's gonna it's gonna cost him eventually. They can't.
Speaker 1: I don't know that they've been lucky for what twenty
Speaker 1: two years now, but eventually that looks gonna run out.
Speaker 1: You're gonna yea yeah, I mean that that's that's a
Speaker 1: huge play in the game. Um. We talked about how
Speaker 1: Mac really zeroed in on Stevenson and Myers. You could
Speaker 1: say the same thing about Zack Wilson with Wilson and Conklin.
Speaker 1: In fact, Elijah Moore after the game, who was targeted
Speaker 1: once and did not come up with a catch, was
Speaker 1: asked about his chemistry with Jets quarterback Zach Wilson and said,
Speaker 1: I don't get the ball. I don't know. Yeah. See
Speaker 1: this is this is the difference. Yeah, this is the
Speaker 1: difference between the New York media and most others. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: you know around here that that wouldn't even like would
Speaker 1: would have been a thing like this is a guy
Speaker 1: who expressed his displeasure a couple of weeks ago and
Speaker 1: then went out and was barely a part of the
Speaker 1: offense with their with their top receiver out, Um, and
Speaker 1: they immediately go to him like y, So what did
Speaker 1: you think get your involvement today? It's just like New York,
Speaker 1: only New York. Yeah. I love Elijah more, but there's
Speaker 1: no denying the fact that the last couple of games
Speaker 1: he hasn't been a part of it. He was getting
Speaker 1: targeted a lot early now he's not even a part
Speaker 1: of the offense. Of course, maybe he was in the
Speaker 1: general vicinity and some of those throwaways that went to mccordy. Ah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it could have been. Devin mccordy had two of the
Speaker 1: easiest interceptions of all time. I mean really just standing there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked about behind the five yards behind where the
Speaker 1: past was supposed to go. And I gotta be honest,
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure how much I want to credit him, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, with with the picks. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you had two picks and you know, they really even lead,
Speaker 1: They really didn't even lead to anything. I believe Devin
Speaker 1: mccordy now is the active interception leader. Yeah, he passed
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters because I know on the first one they
Speaker 1: put the graphic up that he tied with Marcus Peters
Speaker 1: for the most want to sign him. He thought he
Speaker 1: was too old. You're too old, you know what. Mccordy
Speaker 1: was asked about being the active leader and he said,
Speaker 1: I'm just old. Yeah, I'm not sure he was in
Speaker 1: bounds on the second one either. Um, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think he was either that left foot. I think that
Speaker 1: left with that sideline. This is another this is another
Speaker 1: bake sale game, you know when Bill says, maybe we
Speaker 1: can have a bake sale and raise some money so
Speaker 1: they can have more cameras. Um, all right, let's see
Speaker 1: eight five five Pats five hundred the phone number web
Speaker 1: radio at Patriots dot com if you would like to
Speaker 1: email in again. We're waiting on Bill Belichick and uh,
Speaker 1: well we'll hear from him and from Mac Jones in
Speaker 1: just a little bit. Um. The uh, the interceptions, the turnovers,
Speaker 1: all of that. I mean, we talked about how we
Speaker 1: don't feel great about the offense. Was this the type
Speaker 1: of game where you feel great about the defense? Don't
Speaker 1: feel like you really feel great about anything, even the
Speaker 1: defense holding them to seventeen points. Oh, it's like I said,
Speaker 1: defensive the numbers are gonna look really good. But I
Speaker 1: don't think they played all that great. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: they weren't bad. I don't think they were bad defensively today,
Speaker 1: But I don't think this was like Detroit. Right. You
Speaker 1: know when you shut down a bad offense, you know,
Speaker 1: you shut down an offense. This is an offense that
Speaker 1: can't move the ball, and they move the ball today.
Speaker 1: It's never goody Sorry that one drive that I think
Speaker 1: it was the second and third drive that was just
Speaker 1: an all third drive right down the field, bing bang boom,
Speaker 1: and the cuts. I mean that one was that was
Speaker 1: not good. That one, that one was I wanted to
Speaker 1: get the taste out of my mouth. I mean, they
Speaker 1: did write the ship. But I think it's one of
Speaker 1: those games where unfortunately for them, they're top offensive lineman's out,
Speaker 1: they're superstar and budding rookie running back is out. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just it's hard to take a lot out of
Speaker 1: this game. And I mean, I know next week will
Speaker 1: probably be somewhat of the same. Maybe we'll see about
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, but you know, not a lot they could
Speaker 1: prove in this one. I My questions are all kind
Speaker 1: of still on the board, and I think Paul nailed
Speaker 1: it with the stuff about the second area and just
Speaker 1: you know, some of the coverage stuff, and you know
Speaker 1: that it's just for a spell there. Early on in
Speaker 1: the season, I felt like, Wow, I hit a point
Speaker 1: where I'm like, the coverage is good. You know, like
Speaker 1: they seem like they're just they're competitive. They're not great,
Speaker 1: but they're competitive. They're always there. Everything's got to be
Speaker 1: bang bang plays to get them, and I don't think
Speaker 1: that's been really the case the last few weeks. All Right,
Speaker 1: without any further ado, this man passed George hall Us
Speaker 1: and is now the second all time and wins for
Speaker 1: head coaches in the NFL. Bill Belichick from the podium.
Speaker 1: You know, the typical tough division game down here, and uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: give it Jets a lot of credit. Um, it's a
Speaker 1: good football team. Really played well defensively. They give us,
Speaker 1: you know, plenty of problems, trouble at last quarter and
Speaker 1: a half. Really um doing much, really well, coached a
Speaker 1: good front and Mosley. You know, it was all over
Speaker 1: the field. I don't know how many tackles yet, it
Speaker 1: seemed like must have about fifteen or twenty. But um,
Speaker 1: you know, but we hung in there and um got
Speaker 1: got some enough players out of all three units offense, defense,
Speaker 1: special teams, and some big turnovers defensively and hit a
Speaker 1: big play by pept cover the onside kick. And it
Speaker 1: was a kind of played they be Cleveland with I
Speaker 1: think it was in week two somewhere back there. Um,
Speaker 1: so good good division went on the road and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, good good Jets team. Uh they they do
Speaker 1: a good job, and I guess that defensively, they're they're tough.
Speaker 1: We knew that coming in and they certainly played to it.
Speaker 1: So good to you know, good to get out of
Speaker 1: here with the win, the vision and un we'll move on.
Speaker 1: But um, proud of the way the team, you know,
Speaker 1: stepped up on a short week here and you know,
Speaker 1: came in and got the win today. So what did
Speaker 1: you see from Mac in the offense? It looked like
Speaker 1: that had a lot of fight, especially to start that
Speaker 1: third quarter and come out. Yeah. I mean it's a big,
Speaker 1: big halftime swing, really ten point swing for us. We
Speaker 1: got the field goal at the end of the first
Speaker 1: half on a last play and then and then uh
Speaker 1: you know, start a third quarter with points. So you know,
Speaker 1: I thought Matt did a good job today. We got
Speaker 1: the ball out quickly. Um, we had gave up some pressure,
Speaker 1: but I thought he did a good job taking care
Speaker 1: of the ball. I mean, Stevenson obviously is um you know,
Speaker 1: just just tremendous back and makes a lot of yards
Speaker 1: you know, on his own, like nice all the yards
Speaker 1: after contact. But I thought Mac did it, did a
Speaker 1: great job. Stevenson, Jacobe, Um, you know, some guys really
Speaker 1: step up for us and and uh, you know, make
Speaker 1: some plays offensively that that we needed, you know, and
Speaker 1: then again good good team defensive effort all the way around.
Speaker 1: We had a lot of pass rush, turn the ball over,
Speaker 1: tackled better, gave a couple of big plays. But like
Speaker 1: other than those, we you know, played played pretty competitively.
Speaker 1: So good fourth quarter team. You know, nobody's better than
Speaker 1: Jets are in the fourth quarter. So hanging there with
Speaker 1: them in the fourth quarter was you know, we knew
Speaker 1: that was gonna be a challenge, and um it was,
Speaker 1: but you know, we we stepped up to it. So
Speaker 1: that was that was good. Bill. You recorded victory three
Speaker 1: twenty five, number two off. What does that mean to you?
Speaker 1: Just to be a part of history. Yeah, I'm able
Speaker 1: to talk about that when it's over, you know, add
Speaker 1: him up at the end here or whatever. But it's
Speaker 1: good to come down here and win, happy for our
Speaker 1: team and and appreciate all though. You know, great players
Speaker 1: we've had that that I've won those games. You know,
Speaker 1: I had a couple of minute locker room there besides
Speaker 1: our players, you know, guys like Accordions Layer, Omeo, Troy Brown,
Speaker 1: those guys won a lot of games for for us
Speaker 1: for me. So, um, certainly those are team wins special
Speaker 1: special teams today seemed like other than maybe the one
Speaker 1: player where the touch back. Um, would you think of
Speaker 1: the performance? Yeah? Well Nick was you know, Nick was
Speaker 1: great as usual. Um put it right down the middle.
Speaker 1: Thought we covered well had you know, Marks did a
Speaker 1: good job of the ball handling, got an explosive plan
Speaker 1: upunt return. UM, got a good plan to kickoff return
Speaker 1: on the miss hit kickoff. Uh, got it back up
Speaker 1: to the thirty five whatever it was. So U thought
Speaker 1: we took advantage of some opportunities and you know it
Speaker 1: was again that's best special teams unit in the league. Um.
Speaker 1: The Jets statistically, Uh, and they they played to it.
Speaker 1: They're tough. But I thought we stepped up there and
Speaker 1: like I said, they you know, battle them and and
Speaker 1: made our share plays in the game. Could you tell
Speaker 1: if Jack got his hands on that field goal that
Speaker 1: they missed or I couldn't tell him? Mile is Mike clear? Sorry?
Speaker 1: When when you think about Mac handling the pressure that
Speaker 1: he was on Earth today, is it are you always
Speaker 1: impressed like with the toughness physically speaking, or is it
Speaker 1: more like the decision making that he's doing in those
Speaker 1: are tuations. Decisions for sure, Yeah, decisions are sure. Max tough.
Speaker 1: There isn't there anything about the Max tough kid. But
Speaker 1: I thought he made good decisions. Manage the game well,
Speaker 1: manage our team well, um, and that's what a quarterback
Speaker 1: jobs to do, is to help the team win. That's
Speaker 1: what he did. Okay, right, thank you? All right, Okay,
Speaker 1: there you go. That was Bill Belichick after the game
Speaker 1: from complimentary words there for Mac Jones, who didn't have
Speaker 1: a great game by any means, but certainly complimenting his
Speaker 1: toughness and his ability to sort of manage the game,
Speaker 1: which I didn't. I mean, he was tough. He took
Speaker 1: a couple of pops, and I definitely think he bounced
Speaker 1: right back from those. Yeah. I wasn't thinking with Bill
Speaker 1: like I know his toughness. You know, I don't question
Speaker 1: his toughness, but I do question is to asion making today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the game management and all that, I thought that
Speaker 1: was all pretty questionable. But I do get the sense.
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm just you know, reading too far into
Speaker 1: it with Bill, I probably am that this is the
Speaker 1: direction he's gone. I don't think we're gonna see he's
Speaker 1: happy again for a while. I think he's going to
Speaker 1: have Mac out there and stick with him. And now
Speaker 1: that he's healthy and there's no reason to sort of,
Speaker 1: you know, go back and forth anymore. I think it's
Speaker 1: all about building up max confidence, which they probably should
Speaker 1: have started a long time ago. But now here we
Speaker 1: are better late than never. Yeah, Like I said, I
Speaker 1: think that things could have gone a dramatically different direction
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half that picks six
Speaker 1: and then Bill's immediate response to that, because then they
Speaker 1: got down and they got a holding call which pushed
Speaker 1: him back and it was dive, dive, kneel on the ball,
Speaker 1: kick a field goal. That told you right there that
Speaker 1: Bill was shook a little bit because I think that
Speaker 1: those calls. I think Bill says to Matt Patricia at
Speaker 1: that point, let's take the points here, not nothing stupid,
Speaker 1: Let's let's just take the points. So, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't see a lot of great decisions today.
Speaker 1: I saw some. I'm not saying I didn't see any.
Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of great decisions under pressure today.
Speaker 1: I thought he did a good job a couple of
Speaker 1: times climbing the pocket moving around buying some time, but
Speaker 1: I saw other times where he looked affected by the
Speaker 1: pass rush and um and reacted accordingly. This is kind
Speaker 1: of a weird hypothetical, But if Zappy played in this game,
Speaker 1: how do you think he would have done with that pressure? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it could have been really really ugly. Sure
Speaker 1: if it's the same. Like, I don't know, Like I
Speaker 1: think he deals with pressure a little bit better. Though.
Speaker 1: I think he would have gotten sacked fifteen times today. Wow,
Speaker 1: that would have been better than throwing it away. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I think he would have
Speaker 1: taken a lot more sacks than Mac did. I think
Speaker 1: Mac did a good job of moving around at times. Um,
Speaker 1: I feel like Zappy gets the ball out faster. He's
Speaker 1: a little bit more, a little bit more anti bag.
Speaker 1: You're a rappy guy, I'm not. I don't think Zappy
Speaker 1: does anything better than Man. Well, I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: a play zappy guy. I'm just talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of getting the ball out quickly. I feel
Speaker 1: in the games that he's played, I've I've noticed that
Speaker 1: I thought Mac held onto the ball a lot in
Speaker 1: this game, and that's why where a lot of those
Speaker 1: sacks game from Yeah, I think that the plays that
Speaker 1: Mac runs are designed for just one real quick get
Speaker 1: it out throws. All right, we're gonna take a quick
Speaker 1: break here. Then we'll get back to your phone calls
Speaker 1: at eight five five Pats five hundred First Patriots fans,
Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you about NFL All Day. With
Speaker 1: NFL all Day, all your Patriots are your favorite Patriots
Speaker 1: highlights become digital video collectibles called moments, and not only
Speaker 1: can you buy and sell them on a secure marketplace
Speaker 1: full of thousands of fans, you can also use them
Speaker 1: to compete in epic game day challenges. Check it out
Speaker 1: and find some moments from all your favorite Pats players
Speaker 1: on NFL all Day dot Com. Quick break, and we're
Speaker 1: right back here on Patriots postgame. Touch for You Interactive
Speaker 1: from the Yokrest Company, offers New England's leading schools and
Speaker 1: businesses technologically advanced and easy to use interactive displays, providing
Speaker 1: in has collaboration and improved student outcomes in the classroom,
Speaker 1: and an easy way to foster communication and teamwork in
Speaker 1: any business environment. Available in multiple sizes, Touch for You
Speaker 1: also offers Alton VC, allowing for easy use through video
Speaker 1: conference systems. For more information, visit okres dot com. This
Speaker 1: is the Gillette Labs with exfoliating bar. The bar in
Speaker 1: the handle removes unseen dirtain debris ahead of the blades
Speaker 1: for effortlely saving in one efficient strug. Defending against cyber
Speaker 1: attacks requires seen in the dark. Understanding and ending every
Speaker 1: correct to your organization on computers, moble and clouds. It
Speaker 1: takes cyber reason in cyber attacks from inputs to everywhere.
Speaker 1: Touch of You Interactive from the Yoker's Company offers New
Speaker 1: England's leading schools and businesses technologically advanced and easy to
Speaker 1: use interactive displays, providing enhanced collaboration and improved student outcomes
Speaker 1: in the classroom and an easy way to foster communication
Speaker 1: and teamwork in any business environment. Available in multiple sizes.
Speaker 1: Touch forew also offers a Bolton VC allowing for easy
Speaker 1: use through video conference systems. For more information, to visit
Speaker 1: okres doc. This is the Gillette Labs with exfoliating bar.
Speaker 1: The bar in the handle removes unseen dirt and debris
Speaker 1: ahead of the blades for effortless saving in one efficient stroke.
Speaker 1: Defending against cyber attacks requires seen in the dark, understanding
Speaker 1: and ending every threat to your organization on computers, mobile
Speaker 1: and the clouds. It takes cyber reason in cyber attacks
Speaker 1: from inputs to everywhere. In sports, if you think joy
Speaker 1: only happens after you win, think again. Look at the
Speaker 1: world's most successful athletes like Serena Williams, Brooks Kopka and
Speaker 1: Alex Morgan. They don't spend all that day's grinding away.
Speaker 1: They take time to enjoy themselves, like getting together the
Speaker 1: friends over Michaelope Ultra, because they know that happiness is
Speaker 1: the key to winning, and that joy is the whole game,
Speaker 1: not just the end game. Michaelo Ultra ninety five calories,
Speaker 1: two point six grams of cars. It's only worth it
Speaker 1: if you enjoy it and you're responsibly Abe Michaelow Ultra
Speaker 1: Light Beer saying Louismasory. Patriot Places the region's number one shopping, dining,
Speaker 1: and entertainment destination. Shop your favorites including Vineyard, Vines, Express, Olympia, Sports, Petco,
Speaker 1: and Moore. Enjoy dining at one of our nineteen restaurants,
Speaker 1: including six String, Grilling Stage, Scorpion Bar, and Bar Louis,
Speaker 1: And don't forget about the entertainment explore your inner artist
Speaker 1: at muse pat Bar, watch a movie at Showcase Cinema Deluxe,
Speaker 1: or grab a controller and start gaming at helix e Sports.
Speaker 1: For a complete directory listing, please visit Patriot Dashplace dot com.
Speaker 1: Join the conversation by calling the A Sticket hotline at
Speaker 1: eight five five Pats five hundred, or email this show
Speaker 1: at web radio at Patriots dot com and one of
Speaker 1: the most unprofessional pessboxes I've been in in the league.
Speaker 1: From our studios inside Gillette Stadium. Here, here's Christian Arcan.
Speaker 1: All right, it's Patriots postgame presented by Cyber Reason. Patriots
Speaker 1: knock off the Jets twenty two seventeen on the road
Speaker 1: to improve to four and four on the season, three
Speaker 1: and two away from Gillette. Um weird, they've only played
Speaker 1: three games here. Meanwhile, the Jets dropped to five and three,
Speaker 1: just one and three at MetLife Stadium. You just heard
Speaker 1: the number. Let's get to some phone calls. What do
Speaker 1: you say at eight five to five, Pat's five hundred.
Speaker 1: Let's go diplomatically here, it looks like Mitch in Frisco, Frisco, Texas,
Speaker 1: that is, has been waiting the longest, So let's go
Speaker 1: to him, Mitch, how you doing, Hey, guys, Hey, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had had a question for you guys. You know,
Speaker 1: been watching the team now for for eight games, and
Speaker 1: kind of every week it seems like something new pops
Speaker 1: up that's an issue that has to be resolved, whether
Speaker 1: that's TV play turnovers, mistakes, coaching, play calling, in any
Speaker 1: of the above. But would be curious to know your
Speaker 1: guys thoughts on what is the biggest verity between us
Speaker 1: and even just the teams in the division? Do you
Speaker 1: guys think and I'll take it off the line, Well,
Speaker 1: it depends what team you're talking about. I didn't really
Speaker 1: understand there. Yeah, like that to decide for that one.
Speaker 1: The biggest difference between the Patriots and say, the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: I guess is like offensive firepar explosiveness. With the Bills,
Speaker 1: it's everything, you know, like the better at everything. And
Speaker 1: with the Jets, I don't know. I mean I kind
Speaker 1: of feel like the Jets and the Patriots are not
Speaker 1: too far off from each other. Yeah, I think the
Speaker 1: Jets and Patriots are very similar teams, except for the
Speaker 1: Jets are very young, right and I've had some really
Speaker 1: good drafts lately, which the Patriots were still sort of
Speaker 1: finding out. But I mean the Jets, I would say
Speaker 1: Miami is much more explosive. The Bills are much more
Speaker 1: balanced and explosive. Um yeah, and just I guess all
Speaker 1: around better. And the Jets. I mean, the Jets have
Speaker 1: a lot of good young players, but a lot of
Speaker 1: them are hurt right now, and you know a lot
Speaker 1: of them didn't play in this game. Let's go to Moises,
Speaker 1: who was in Connecticut. Hey, Moises, is this all right? Moises?
Speaker 1: We're gonna pop you on hold and let's see who
Speaker 1: gets that line. That would be the Seaun in Virginia.
Speaker 1: Holod to Sean in Virginia. Hello, how's it going, guys?
Speaker 1: What's up? Nothing much? I don't want to speak on
Speaker 1: one thing that could be very very constant. That's the
Speaker 1: offense struggling. I can't really see too much more happening
Speaker 1: to because you can't really train the personnel right now.
Speaker 1: I mean the grind weekend and week outfence offen to
Speaker 1: get anything going systematically, it's corectly to get things going.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, what's that? I'd say everything has to be
Speaker 1: schemed in order to get these players open. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can't trying. These players are like age go out and
Speaker 1: to make a play for me. Well, they're also having
Speaker 1: a hard time getting the ball to the guys too,
Speaker 1: let's not I think quarterback is part of the issues
Speaker 1: on offense. I mean, I'm I'm not going to sugarcoat
Speaker 1: it here. They've had issues offensively period. Are they scheming
Speaker 1: guys open too? I mean, we were talking about this,
Speaker 1: you guys were talking about it in the pregame. I
Speaker 1: believe one of the callers called it and said, you know,
Speaker 1: trick plays used to be kind of the more part
Speaker 1: of this playbook. You would scheme guys open with some
Speaker 1: trick plays. You would you know, run some rubber outs
Speaker 1: or something. Doesn't seem like much of that is going
Speaker 1: on from what we can see, especially not in the
Speaker 1: trick play department. But at the same time, you can't
Speaker 1: really run trick plays if you can't run your normal plays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and also when you know your offensive coordinator, who felt
Speaker 1: confident doing that sort of thing is in Las Vegas
Speaker 1: getting shut out today. By the way, Um, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a little bit tougher. I think for guys like
Speaker 1: Patricia and uh and Joe Judge to start getting that
Speaker 1: creative you know, I mean, they do some creative stuff,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if they're I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're ready to start doing flee flickers and you know,
Speaker 1: wide receiver passes and double passes and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I feel like that was that was Josh's wheelhouse more
Speaker 1: than more than anybody else's. And now you've got two
Speaker 1: guys who you know, were learning on the on the job,
Speaker 1: and I think that's sort of maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: out of their out of their comfort zone if I
Speaker 1: had to, if I had to guess, M eight five five,
Speaker 1: Pats five hundred, that is your phone number. We'll hear
Speaker 1: from Mac Jones in just a few minutes. Mac Jones
Speaker 1: beaking after the game again. I'm interested in hearing how
Speaker 1: he uh he talks about this game and how it went,
Speaker 1: how thin he thinks it went for him. It's been
Speaker 1: a weird season for him, I think all around. I
Speaker 1: feel like every time he comes to the podium, I
Speaker 1: never know what he's gonna say. I never know what
Speaker 1: Moody's gonna be in. I just don't know, Like it's
Speaker 1: it's a it's a mystery, you know, like you never
Speaker 1: really know, and this a tough game anything you know, like,
Speaker 1: how much do you look at Like toward the end
Speaker 1: of the Brady era, we had games like this that
Speaker 1: Brady looked like he just lost fifty four to nothing, right,
Speaker 1: because he knew the offense didn't play very well. He
Speaker 1: knew he didn't play very well, and he knew what
Speaker 1: they were doing wasn't good enough. I don't know where
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is in his career if this was just
Speaker 1: maybe one of those games where he looked at and said,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a tough week for us, a tough
Speaker 1: week for me personally, and we got the win. We
Speaker 1: went on the road and we got the win, and
Speaker 1: that's what we had to have. And maybe that's his
Speaker 1: mentality more so than Brady, who at the time, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking like twenty nineteen in Philadelphia, Yeah, you know, not
Speaker 1: a very good game that they won. I think they
Speaker 1: won seventeen to ten. A game kind of like this
Speaker 1: one where the other team just made more mistakes than
Speaker 1: you did and you ended up winning. I wonder how
Speaker 1: how Mac will we'll handle that? All right? We got
Speaker 1: a couple of emails to read, this one coming from
Speaker 1: Daniel who says, guys, I'm not encouraged about anything. Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson and the refs handed us this win and just barely.
Speaker 1: The team is in no man's land, and I really
Speaker 1: don't know what the future holds. I agree with that
Speaker 1: last part, and really the whole thing. The future, like
Speaker 1: the future of this team, I think, is so up
Speaker 1: in the air. You really don't know. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just it's it's very unknown, it's very vague. There's not
Speaker 1: a lot to hang your hat on total agreement. It
Speaker 1: seems like there's been more bad than good overall. But
Speaker 1: there are four and four, you know, I mean, there
Speaker 1: are five hundred teams. If you get more plays, you know,
Speaker 1: more games like today the rest of the way, and
Speaker 1: you end up going like eight and nine. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Like if someone's asking me, what
Speaker 1: is this, the guy I don't know, Like I don't,
Speaker 1: like my gut would say no. But you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. If two years is too quite, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's that's the danger to me, is that you end
Speaker 1: up like Midland yeah today, uh yeah, no question about it.
Speaker 1: And by the way, at four and four, that'd be
Speaker 1: enough for you know, battling for second place in the
Speaker 1: North in the South and in the West. So I
Speaker 1: mean you have you have a division now in the
Speaker 1: AFC East. Everybody thought it was gonna be the West
Speaker 1: this year with the Chiefs, the Chargers and Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: and the Broncos and Adams going to the Raiders. Everyone
Speaker 1: thought that was going to be the division. You're in
Speaker 1: the division, and that's the worst possible time for the
Speaker 1: Patriots to be in the most competitive division in the AFC. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the division's really irrelevant because you're not competing with Buffalo.
Speaker 1: You're competing with all the teams in the conference for
Speaker 1: wildcard spots. Yeah, so where you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: what division? I actually look at it as a blessing
Speaker 1: because you get an opportunity to beat the teams that
Speaker 1: you have to get in front of. Like today, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you had a chance to beat head to head
Speaker 1: the Jets, who were one of the teams ahead of you,
Speaker 1: Whereas like, uh, you know, Cincinnati, you'll have a chance
Speaker 1: later on in the year, Baltimore, you already missed that chance.
Speaker 1: You know, if maybe down the road it's the Chargers
Speaker 1: are one of the teams you're trying to chase, you
Speaker 1: won't get an opportunity to see if you could see them.
Speaker 1: You know, I think this, I get it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think this is something to be said both ways.
Speaker 1: Tough division, But if you were, if you were fighting
Speaker 1: for the division lead, I would say, yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 1: But I don't really think they're gonna be when all
Speaker 1: is said and done, I don't think they're going to
Speaker 1: be a factor in the division. Yeah. Stephan from Frankfurt,
Speaker 1: Germany says, Guys, I really hope make would respond after
Speaker 1: getting pulled last week with an angry good performance. He
Speaker 1: may have been angry, but he certainly was not good.
Speaker 1: Where is the more than solid QB he was last season?
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I feel like, you know, we
Speaker 1: talk about like improvement from year to year. Is he
Speaker 1: gonna get better? Is he going to progress? Can he
Speaker 1: get back to what he was last year? Like, I
Speaker 1: feel like he's not even there now. You hope, So, yeah,
Speaker 1: you sure hope. So otherwise, this team, the future is
Speaker 1: a lot worse if he doesn't get back to where
Speaker 1: he was last year. To kind of go back to
Speaker 1: the last question, because if you're staying, if you're taking
Speaker 1: a step back in year two, you're probably not making
Speaker 1: huge leap in year three, year four, and if you
Speaker 1: don't have the quarterback, it's gone to show in this
Speaker 1: league you're you're not very good. You're at best a
Speaker 1: middling team. I wasn't expecting Mac to start airing it
Speaker 1: out down the field. I knew that, you know, there
Speaker 1: was they weren't going to let him just go out
Speaker 1: there and get picked off a bunch. But even though
Speaker 1: it was a relatively conservative game plan, he still had
Speaker 1: a hard time, you know, he still had a really
Speaker 1: hard time reading the defense, getting the ball where he
Speaker 1: wanted it to go, and avoiding those type of plays.
Speaker 1: And I'd be interested to hear, you know, all of
Speaker 1: the you know, the the all twenty two guys that
Speaker 1: I make fun of all the time. But I'm not
Speaker 1: really trying to in this particular case, because I thought
Speaker 1: there were a lot of elements of the game today
Speaker 1: that were similar to what we've seen. I saw him
Speaker 1: under center, I saw him play action, I saw him
Speaker 1: doing some of the things that you know they've done
Speaker 1: with with Zappy, and it looked just as bad. So
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I'd be curious to see if
Speaker 1: there was you know, different things, different concepts that people
Speaker 1: feel like we're happening today as opposed to what Zappi
Speaker 1: has been dealing with. Is there a point this season
Speaker 1: where if Mac doesn't get any better, you think they
Speaker 1: should start planning for a new quarterback next year? Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that on the table this year? I think if
Speaker 1: the record falls apart and you're in position to pick
Speaker 1: in the top ten, yep, Okay, there's some good quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in this you know. And I would say, and I
Speaker 1: would say with the one caveat is unless it's an injury,
Speaker 1: if he can't play for the balance of the last
Speaker 1: nine games. Let's say he gets hurt two weeks from
Speaker 1: now when they end up losing you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know six of the last seven and Mac doesn't play
Speaker 1: in those games, so you have you have a top
Speaker 1: ten pick, but it wasn't Mac's fault, then maybe I,
Speaker 1: you know, I have to fall back on my evaluation.
Speaker 1: But if he plays the rest of the way and
Speaker 1: he's healthy and they lose all the games, I have
Speaker 1: to think because he's not playing great, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you have to think about it. Christian, Yeah, I certainly
Speaker 1: think you have to as well. Do we have Mac
Speaker 1: ready to go. All right, without any further ado, let's
Speaker 1: hear from the man we've been talking about most of
Speaker 1: this postgame show, Mac Jones as an offense, as a team, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think things first, just kind of opening statement here,
Speaker 1: just wanted to give a huge congratulations to coach Belichick,
Speaker 1: um on on his accomplishment. And I'm obviously he's done
Speaker 1: a great job here and it's just a blessing to
Speaker 1: be able to play for him. And obviously we don't
Speaker 1: do the whole individual awards, but that's a big one,
Speaker 1: and um, it's just to be this quarterback right now.
Speaker 1: It's a huge blessing. So, um, I thought today was
Speaker 1: a good win. I think in the National Football League
Speaker 1: it's obviously hard to win, and um the defense played
Speaker 1: exceptional and we kind of knew we were just gonna
Speaker 1: wait and let them kind of take over the game.
Speaker 1: And special teams played great as well, and obviously we
Speaker 1: did enough to put points up. But we want to
Speaker 1: do better and we will. But um, a lot of
Speaker 1: things are working on I'm sure when we see the film.
Speaker 1: But you gotta give credit to the Jets defense. That's
Speaker 1: a really good defense, top defense in the league. And
Speaker 1: we'll face, you know, really good defenses in the future,
Speaker 1: and that was you know, good preparation for that coming
Speaker 1: out with the second half of offense, was that it
Speaker 1: was a messaging out, Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, Coach Belichick and Mattie p and coach Judge
Speaker 1: did a good job just coming up with the plan
Speaker 1: of how we were going to attack, and we talked
Speaker 1: about it and they they've done a good job all
Speaker 1: year of adjusting at halftime. Um, I think that's something
Speaker 1: that they've done a great job of. And UM that
Speaker 1: obviously benefits you in the second half, and we were
Speaker 1: able to go down there and move the ball, but
Speaker 1: obviously want to score more points and we know that,
Speaker 1: and um, we'll have plenty of stuff to work on.
Speaker 1: But super proud of you know, the guys on offense.
Speaker 1: We just sticking with it and trying to battle through
Speaker 1: against you know, obviously a really good defense back. Did
Speaker 1: you have any extra motivation this week coming off any
Speaker 1: of the injury this in three weeks and then just
Speaker 1: playing those three serious last year. UM, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I always try to be like internally motivated, and obviously
Speaker 1: there's things that you can control and for me, it
Speaker 1: was just my attitude and my effort and being a
Speaker 1: good teammate and showing up and trying to work and
Speaker 1: lead the guys. And that's my you know, good attribute
Speaker 1: that I have is my communication. And I felt like
Speaker 1: we did extra things this week together as a team
Speaker 1: and really as an offense that showed up on the field.
Speaker 1: And if we continue to do that, um, we'll see
Speaker 1: you know, better results. So the processes there and I'm
Speaker 1: just super you know, happy to go to be a
Speaker 1: part of this, and obviously we want to continue to
Speaker 1: grow here. It's one game is not good enough, so
Speaker 1: we'll be ready for you know, next week. I think
Speaker 1: you mentioned it. What were some of the extra things
Speaker 1: you guys are doing us the team? You guys rock
Speaker 1: favorite SISIs now You're good? Yeah, I think just sorry.
Speaker 1: I think just talking through some things and watching extra
Speaker 1: film together was obviously very beneficial and um, getting more
Speaker 1: reps you know, in our own time and talking through
Speaker 1: things and just whatever we had questions on we were
Speaker 1: just more all right, how do we do this? What
Speaker 1: do we need to do here? So obviously that's important.
Speaker 1: You want to be on the same page. And I
Speaker 1: feel like we made strides there. But I got to
Speaker 1: continue to do that. And um, like I said, just
Speaker 1: it starts in practice, and we had good week of
Speaker 1: practice and we got to carry it over even more
Speaker 1: into the game, but definitely good enough to you know,
Speaker 1: get to w just so we understand, like a small
Speaker 1: group or a couple of guys at Valley, I mean
Speaker 1: I think, you know, as always we have our meetings
Speaker 1: and um, you know, it takes everybody takes all eleven
Speaker 1: on the field, and there's a lot of young guys
Speaker 1: that are learning too, So we want to, like I said,
Speaker 1: just come together and whether it's as a unit or
Speaker 1: as a skill group or quarterback group or wide receiver group,
Speaker 1: like everyone's trying to do more and that's what we're
Speaker 1: trying to you know, get to and um, it should
Speaker 1: be like that every week. So we're gonna continue to
Speaker 1: do that and just get better. Man about the quick
Speaker 1: game and the second half, it seemed like you guys
Speaker 1: went off at Temple a little bit more short approach
Speaker 1: things like that style. Yeah, I think, um, it's really
Speaker 1: just applies to how the defense is playing and how
Speaker 1: we're trying to attack. And they had a really good
Speaker 1: you know, defensive line and we're just trying to neutralize
Speaker 1: that and move the ball quickly. And Matti p did
Speaker 1: a great job calling the plays all day. And I
Speaker 1: gotta get the ball out on some of those sacks
Speaker 1: and stuff. So it's not all one person or one thing.
Speaker 1: But I'll definitely watch it and see how we can improve.
Speaker 1: And um, and you know obviously want to score more
Speaker 1: points and do all that. So a lot of progress,
Speaker 1: but gotta keep going. It's doing that's better. Yeah, I think, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, Damien and Andre have done a great job
Speaker 1: all year, you know, working together as a unit, and um,
Speaker 1: helping those young guys move along. And um, they're both
Speaker 1: really good. In the past game. I think More has
Speaker 1: done a good job there. We kind of included him
Speaker 1: in that this week, and um, Damien has just improved
Speaker 1: there too. So you know, I love both of those
Speaker 1: guys are like my brothers. So UM, we just want
Speaker 1: to continue to grow together. And UM, you know they've
Speaker 1: done a great job. And even though you guys are
Speaker 1: playing your best, how good is it just get the
Speaker 1: victory environment. Yeah, it's great. I think that's why football
Speaker 1: is the greatest team sport. And you have a game
Speaker 1: plan and UM, I felt like we laid out the
Speaker 1: you know, targets that we wanted to hit, and we
Speaker 1: hit most of them. So, UM, you know, that's that's
Speaker 1: part of it. And I'm just super happy that we won.
Speaker 1: But you know, we're always gonna try and look at
Speaker 1: the things that we can do better, and that's what
Speaker 1: we'll do. But you had a great job on defense
Speaker 1: and special teams and offensively just trying to just battle
Speaker 1: through it and find a way and that's what the
Speaker 1: national football he is. Mac. What did you what did
Speaker 1: you last six? What were you trying to do with
Speaker 1: the ball? And also your reaction to the penalty. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that something I'll have to see on film.
Speaker 1: But I knew what I was trying to do with
Speaker 1: it and just a little miscommunication. But I can't have
Speaker 1: those and penalties saved us. But um, definitely want to
Speaker 1: eliminate those plays, and UM, gotta watch it and see
Speaker 1: what we can do better. Cool. Thanks, all right. That
Speaker 1: was Mac Jones up at the podium earlier this evening
Speaker 1: as the Patriots come away with a twenty two seventeen
Speaker 1: win over the Jets. Mac Jones sporting the Agent Smith
Speaker 1: and the Matrix look with the with the black jacket.
Speaker 1: Is that a black tie or blue tie? I couldn't
Speaker 1: really tell. It looked like it looked like he had
Speaker 1: that whole thing going anyway, any takeaways from what he
Speaker 1: had to side? That last question is a good question.
Speaker 1: I wish that we would have gotten an answer on
Speaker 1: it because he said he said he knew what he
Speaker 1: wanted to do with it and it was a miscommunication.
Speaker 1: What the miscommunication was you were going to throw out
Speaker 1: fifteen yards short and let the guy who run there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd like to see like the other view to see
Speaker 1: where the route was, because I didn't ever there was
Speaker 1: no Patriot in the picture on TV. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: assuming he's throwing an out and it looked like Michael
Speaker 1: Carter under I think it was Michael Cotter undercut the
Speaker 1: out route. But I didn't see a Patriots receiver, So
Speaker 1: I wonder if they were in zone and the receiver
Speaker 1: didn't react the way he was supposed to and the
Speaker 1: throw ends up looking like he's throwing it right to
Speaker 1: a jet but wasn't supposed to be like that. I
Speaker 1: don't know. All right, Well, I agree with you, it
Speaker 1: was a good question. We didn't get an answer too.
Speaker 1: I know that's too bad. We'll take a quick break
Speaker 1: here Mac Jones and Bill Belichick. By the way, brought
Speaker 1: to you by the Massachusetts Office of Travel and Tourism.
Speaker 1: Great memories are made in Massachusetts, no matter how you
Speaker 1: choose to make them, indoors or outdoors, scenic view, city vibe,
Speaker 1: solo or family style, whatever moves you, whatever the season.
Speaker 1: Playing your perfect Massachusetts getaway at visit MA dot com.
Speaker 1: Quick Break. We'll be right back to wrap things up
Speaker 1: here on Patriot's Postgame, presented by cyber Reason. Touch of
Speaker 1: You Interactive from the Yocres Company, offers New England's leading
Speaker 1: schools and businesses technologically advanced and easy to use interactive plays,
Speaker 1: providing enhanced collaboration and improved student outcomes in the classroom
Speaker 1: and an easy way to foster communication and teamwork in
Speaker 1: any business environment. Available in multiple sizes, Touch for You
Speaker 1: also offers a built in VC allowing for easy use
Speaker 1: through video conference systems. For more information, visit okres dot com.
Speaker 1: This is the Gillette Labs with exfoliating bar. The bar
Speaker 1: in the handle removes unseen dirt and debris ahead of
Speaker 1: the blades for effortless saving in one efficient stroke. Defending
Speaker 1: against cyber attacks requires seen in the dark, understanding and
Speaker 1: ending every correct to your organization on computers, mobile, and clouds.
Speaker 1: It takes cyber reason in cyber attacks from inputs to everywhere.
Speaker 1: Touch of You Interactive from the Yokers Company offers New
Speaker 1: England's leading schools and businesses technologically advanced and easy to
Speaker 1: use interactive displays providing in has collaboration and improved student
Speaker 1: outcomes in the classroom, and an easy way to foster
Speaker 1: communication and teamwork in any business environment. Available in multiple sizes.
Speaker 1: Touch View also offers a built in VC allowing for
Speaker 1: easy use through video conference systems. For more information, visit
Speaker 1: okres dot com. This is the Gillette Labs with exfoliating bar.
Speaker 1: The bar in the handle removes unseen dirt and debris
Speaker 1: ahead of the blades for effortless saving in one efficient stroke.
Speaker 1: Defending against cyber attacks requires seen in the dark, understanding
Speaker 1: and ending every threat to your organization on computers, mobile
Speaker 1: and clouds. It takes cyber reason in cyber attacks from
Speaker 1: inputs to everywhere. Join the conversation by calling the A
Speaker 1: Sticket hotline at eight five five Pats five hundred or
Speaker 1: email the show at web radio at Patriots dot com
Speaker 1: named the Stadium Gillette Labs by the night. What are
Speaker 1: we doing between silver pants Galette Labs. I don't think
Speaker 1: the halftime ceremonies live from our studios inside Gillette Stadium.
Speaker 1: Here's Christian Arcan all right, couple of minutes left as
Speaker 1: we wrap things up here on Patriots Postgame presented by
Speaker 1: Cyber Reason. The official defenders of the New England Patriots
Speaker 1: Pats with a twenty two seventeen ugly win on the
Speaker 1: road Division win knocking the Jets down a peg to
Speaker 1: five and three as the Pats improved to four and four,
Speaker 1: is still in the basement of the AFC East, but
Speaker 1: certainly a better record than a lot of other teams
Speaker 1: in the AFC, So a good win for them in
Speaker 1: terms of the schedule and the standings and everything else,
Speaker 1: in terms of style points and everything like that. Probably
Speaker 1: one of their not so great wins this season, or
Speaker 1: really any season. Had to have it, that's the bottom lines,
Speaker 1: and they got it. But yeah, still a lot of
Speaker 1: work to do on both sides of the ball, but
Speaker 1: especially on offense. Yeah, um, anything to close out Matt
Speaker 1: Any closing thoughts. Yeah, just let you know, get into
Speaker 1: the buy with a winning record. If you can do that,
Speaker 1: you feel a lot better about the really ugly start
Speaker 1: to the season and some of the ugly moments like
Speaker 1: last Monday and the win today. Getting to the bye
Speaker 1: with a winning record and that's all that matters. And
Speaker 1: you have a vulnerable team that you're playing next week
Speaker 1: with a young quarterback and Sam Ellinger who has looked
Speaker 1: horrific in the red zone looking as we've had here. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, get getting to the bye with a winning
Speaker 1: record and go from there. The schedule gets a lot tougher,
Speaker 1: but half that winning record at the buy. Did I
Speaker 1: see Jonathan Taylor got hurt or is he back? He's
Speaker 1: back in the game, But yes, I mean they've playing
Speaker 1: the Patriots next week, so yes, I would expect. And
Speaker 1: he hasn't been the same kind of yeah right, he
Speaker 1: hasn't been the same kind of explosive he's been. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been hurt on and off. He's dealing with an
Speaker 1: ankle injury. But the last I saw he was back
Speaker 1: in the game. All right. Well the Patriots, Well, welcome
Speaker 1: in the Indianapolis Colts. On November sixth, they one o'clock
Speaker 1: game here at Gillette Stadium, and we'll have all the
Speaker 1: pre and post game for you like we always do
Speaker 1: here at Patriots dot com. Um, I'll be in again
Speaker 1: for Hardy here again next we'll be here again next week.
Speaker 1: Hopefully hell's going on. Yeah, a little bit in better
Speaker 1: shape than I was today. Thanks for bearing with me. Guys,
Speaker 1: certainly appreciate it most. Maybe we'll even see Deuce, who
Speaker 1: that'd be something, get the whole gang back together. But
Speaker 1: for Deuce, for Matt, for Paul Piillo, Tamara Brown, m
Speaker 1: Juwan Bentley who joined us in the post game, and
Speaker 1: everybody else this has been Patriots postgame for subbing in
Speaker 1: and Matt Lapan and of course Matt Morrell are fantastic producer,
Speaker 1: Mattie the Marine back there behind the glass. We'll talk
Speaker 1: to you next week Patriots and Colts one o'clock game
Speaker 1: on November six Everybody, have a great night. Thank you
Speaker 1: for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, google Play, and
Speaker 1: everywhere else you listen. Like the show, Please rate and
Speaker 1: review us. Listener comments and ratings help keep us high
Speaker 1: in the podcast rankings so new listeners can find us.
Speaker 1: Be sure to check patriots dot com for more news
Speaker 1: and more podcasts.