WEBVTT - Dan Patrick - Hour 2 – NBA Insider Frank Isola

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<v Speaker 1>quieted any of that. They're gonna get eliminated and Doc

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<v Speaker 1>the LA Lakers sort of discussion. Thus far, there's your

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<v Speaker 1>like basic NBA recap. We're what a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>than a week away from the NFL Draft, which seems

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<v Speaker 1>to lack a lot or even a little buzz a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that because the quarterbacks, right, or the lack

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<v Speaker 1>there of quarterbacks, which gets us to I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss us, believe it or not, I Colin cap Kaepernick.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to Colin Colin Kaepernick. But let me just

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<v Speaker 1>let me just put a cap on something before Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to to a Kaepernick discussion. Frank guisoul

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<v Speaker 1>is going to join us UM upcoming here in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes scores. Frank covers the NBA has a has a

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<v Speaker 1>show on serious sex m covering only the NBA. It's like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>the Kyrie Irving injury thing is the thing. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>impossible not to point out that, you know, from Duke

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<v Speaker 1>when he had the big toe injury to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he tore his knee his first year in the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>Finals with Lebron, and he had the mesh that that

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<v Speaker 1>got and screws that got infected in his knee when

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<v Speaker 1>he was with the Boston Celtics, you know, to even

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<v Speaker 1>getting hurt last year. Most of it is bad luck.

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<v Speaker 1>It just is it's bad luck that dude has been

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<v Speaker 1>He's walked underneath uh um ladders or something. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>miss twenty seven percent of his games in his career.

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<v Speaker 1>So has he not performed at the highest level as

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<v Speaker 1>often as Lebron James, of course not. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit like the Chris Paul things, like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really hard to tell. But when he is healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I mean he was amazing the

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<v Speaker 1>other night. So like, I don't think I think diminishing

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<v Speaker 1>anything he does on the floor on the offensive side

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<v Speaker 1>of the basketball is a mistake. The problem with Kyrie

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<v Speaker 1>Irving is he's so busy trying to prove that he

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<v Speaker 1>knows more about so many different topics. We're just like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>just go play. That's that's kind of where the Earth

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<v Speaker 1>is flat? Dug the Earth is flat? Yeah, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I thought I thought that was just a challenge

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<v Speaker 1>to Hey, you know when people say things, let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at him. The problem is like he dug

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<v Speaker 1>in his heels on that deal, like the Wild Conspiracy. Seriously, man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I struggle with that one. You start going earth is

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<v Speaker 1>flat and then you lose me. I'm actually I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get the ridding the spirits with sage like that's oh,

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<v Speaker 1>stop it. There's lots of people who believe in that.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. Yeah, Like you ever have, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna try and you're trying to get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of bad you know, bad juju. You take some sage,

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<v Speaker 1>you burned, Like if it works, you know, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing to get rid of bad juju? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what you do? I have done it. Yeah, you've burned

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<v Speaker 1>sage dark. Yeah, you're supposed to do it. You come

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<v Speaker 1>into new a house, you're supposed to do it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>like an old wives tale. You know, my we we

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<v Speaker 1>toyed with the idea recently of buying a tear down

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<v Speaker 1>and building a house. And you know, my dad, of

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<v Speaker 1>course he's not listening, but he's in Florida, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's old school. He's like, hey, just remember you want

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<v Speaker 1>the front door to face this way in the oven.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just like, stop all that stuff. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>way into that, and uh, I can't. I can't buy

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<v Speaker 1>fully into that stuff, you know, I just can't. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a it is a thousand year several thousand year

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<v Speaker 1>old holistic remedy holistic and it it also like there's

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<v Speaker 1>also like Batiste thible. No, I'm just look again, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm sorry. I'm not sympathetic towards people who

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<v Speaker 1>are told they need to be vaccinated and chose not

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<v Speaker 1>to do so. You know, I'm not I'm not sympathetic.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a sick burn towards Anthony Fauci. No, I'm just kidding. No,

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<v Speaker 1>no, no no, no, not towards Anthony Fauci. If you if

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<v Speaker 1>you misheard me or if I misspoke, I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sympathetic towards people who were not vaccinated and after

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<v Speaker 1>they were told they needed to be to perform their job.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, mel kiper Yeah, No, I mean, like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody told you how to do it. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do it for your job, then do it. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you have some grave medical condition, then

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<v Speaker 1>you go and go. I got some medical condition and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't I do Like you knew you had to

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<v Speaker 1>be vaccinated. They said you have to do it to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you go do it. Sorry, that's that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the way that that's the way. That's the way it works, correct.

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<v Speaker 1>We sometimes you know, if you try to not I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go to college and not be vaccinated inoculated

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<v Speaker 1>for other things. For everybody got inoculated when they went

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<v Speaker 1>to college, and nobody asked questions about it and said

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<v Speaker 1>they did their own research. You know. But anyway, the

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<v Speaker 1>burning stage thing is actually like healthy for you. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna there are there are parts of there

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<v Speaker 1>are parts of Kyrie that you do it does. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he does want to make you think, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can I can appreciate that, like, hey, why is it

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<v Speaker 1>okay that somebody calls me a CS or somebody calls

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<v Speaker 1>me an MF, Like why is that okay? The truth

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<v Speaker 1>is it's not. The truth is it's not. It's like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you can you can boo, you can yell at guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you can yell you suck or whatever. They're just there's

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<v Speaker 1>just a level where you're like, really, like, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing here. On the other hand, that shouldn't empower

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<v Speaker 1>you to give it back to them. You can, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's a path because in addition to

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<v Speaker 1>them being you're paying customers, there's plenty of other paying

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<v Speaker 1>customers that that's not what they came to. Well, Doug,

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen the movie Gladiator, right, I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>where the sports all emanates from. Like the gladiators were

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<v Speaker 1>in the ring, you could say whatever you wanted, people

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<v Speaker 1>fus stuff at them. That's where it came from. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know some of these athletes, the modern athletes, are saying,

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<v Speaker 1>well it was it was that way. Thousands of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it that way still? And I A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these conventional wisdom norms are being flipped, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean mental health, Doug. Can you imagine a professional

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<v Speaker 1>football player or NBA player twenty years ago saying I

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<v Speaker 1>need time off for mental health? Hell, fifteen years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty years ago, no way, And now it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's fine, do that, you need it. We

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<v Speaker 1>all need a mental break. And I think you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in football mentality, it is, I think, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>in basketball mentality again, it's only flipped in these guys

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<v Speaker 1>in which it's one thing to challenge conventional wisdom, it's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing to shut down or to you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>hurl an insult back at a fan like that may

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<v Speaker 1>look cool on social media. That does not look that

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<v Speaker 1>does not look cool in you know in Okay, So Doug,

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<v Speaker 1>here here's a comp right, So you open social media

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning, you brush your teeth, you go to

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom, you do your normal things. You open social media,

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<v Speaker 1>you happen to look at your mentions and it's I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, let's just say twenty people are saying, f you,

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<v Speaker 1>you were wrong about this, You suck you shouldn't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about sports blah blah blah. Okay, in no way, shape

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<v Speaker 1>or form would anyone ever do that to you in public.

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<v Speaker 1>So why should they be allowed to go on your

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<v Speaker 1>social media and send all these nasty, like idiotic things.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know you, they're anonymous. That that's not how

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<v Speaker 1>it should be. So obviously we block those people. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need that in my life. There's no for no

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<v Speaker 1>reason should anybody be able to mf me for me

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<v Speaker 1>just saying I think the Pelicans are choking dogs, so

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<v Speaker 1>I am easily able to block them. Now, Doug, you've

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<v Speaker 1>been in sports media longer than I have. I only

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<v Speaker 1>moved out here to La to do FS one in

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<v Speaker 1>radio six years ago. In my time out here, I

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<v Speaker 1>have never once had people come up to me and

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<v Speaker 1>say anything like they do on social media. People come up, oh, Jay,

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<v Speaker 1>I love your stuff. I can't believe you said this, smiling, laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to talk engage about sports, fine, nobody ever does that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's happened to you before, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's never happened to me. Even people drunk coming up

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<v Speaker 1>to be a Dodger stadium Lakers games, they're all like

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<v Speaker 1>oh dude, what's up? Man? Congrats, let me get a picture.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all very normal, but on social media, people get different.

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<v Speaker 1>People get liquored up in the crowd. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>say stuff to Kyrie Irving. Yeah, I've got no problem

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<v Speaker 1>with him firing back stuff. I've absolutely no problem with

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<v Speaker 1>these with these athletes, they should not be subjected to

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<v Speaker 1>some of this vile comments coming out of these liquored up,

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<v Speaker 1>drunk idiot's mouth. So so here's there's but this is

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do? You either mute them or you

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<v Speaker 1>block them? Right easy for me? Yes, okay, no, So

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<v Speaker 1>an NBA player, if they want and somebody else at them,

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<v Speaker 1>they can go right to the officials and point the

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<v Speaker 1>guy out and there is no discussion. They're escorted from

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<v Speaker 1>the building. Yes, Lebron has done that, but watch, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the question, why hasn't Kyrie done that? That is when

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<v Speaker 1>we start to really drill down. He believes that he's

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<v Speaker 1>fueling that energy is fueling him, and it does create

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<v Speaker 1>like look again, as you know, I cut my teeth

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<v Speaker 1>in this industry covering college basketball, right. But the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>thing about it is if you ask fans to be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I really love college basketball, it's just so much more

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<v Speaker 1>energy and they play so much harder. Like look, if

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<v Speaker 1>you watch the NBA Playoffs in comparison to college basketball's

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<v Speaker 1>NCAA Tournament, which is incredibly popular, it's a great event.

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<v Speaker 1>The NCAA Tournament does not have great atmospheres in every game.

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<v Speaker 1>Most games, a matter of fact, do not even have

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<v Speaker 1>good atmospheres because they're neutral sites. They're split up amongst

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<v Speaker 1>eight schools or whatever. In terms of the tickets, the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA Playoffs like that atmosphere the other night, and what

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be tomorrow night is unbelievable. Okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>if the but if it, if people step over line, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to do what you've I've made the mistake

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<v Speaker 1>before bro I was at I was at ESPN, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is man, I'm old. This is like fifteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And you used to contractually have to do a chat

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<v Speaker 1>like during basketball season once a week you'd sit down

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<v Speaker 1>with or you'd sit down with an editor and they

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<v Speaker 1>put you in a chat room. You remember chats I did,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I always get the Notre Dame credit

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<v Speaker 1>card thing whatever, you know, some sort of some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of loser commentary and as a gag. One time I

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<v Speaker 1>came back at two different people, and I think your

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<v Speaker 1>website ran it actually where I said. I said something

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<v Speaker 1>along the lines of, hey man, listen, just when I

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<v Speaker 1>say thirty minutes or less of my pizza, thirty minutes less,

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<v Speaker 1>you know my pizza, get my pizza to my house,

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty minutesal less, right, And then there was some

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<v Speaker 1>other insult somebody else, and I just said, listen, can

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<v Speaker 1>you tell your mom? I left my jordansid her right?

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like your mom jokes. I love those,

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<v Speaker 1>very very sophomoric. I did not curse, you know, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got called in at ed espionas a got

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<v Speaker 1>any Mark Gross? Who's a I think? I think A

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<v Speaker 1>good dude, I you know I And even after this,

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<v Speaker 1>I still think he's a He was. He was good

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<v Speaker 1>at what he did. I thought it was a massive overreaction.

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<v Speaker 1>He called in. He's like, look, we're we're gonna suspend

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<v Speaker 1>you for a week. I was like, for what for?

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<v Speaker 1>For hurling insults at our paying custom at our fans.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, when did I do that? He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>here's this chat he said. If He's like, we were

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<v Speaker 1>at a table, and I thought we should fire you.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what He's like, you gotta understand, like those people

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<v Speaker 1>like if you pay attention to those are the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing people pay attention to is when you comment on it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like the quote retweet thing, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't punch down it. It makes us all look bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are your customers. These are the people that come

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<v Speaker 1>for your information. Now, I look, I don't agree totally,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do understand. I do understand, Like I understand,

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<v Speaker 1>like you represent something way more and way bigger, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're above that, and you have to act like

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<v Speaker 1>you're above that. Now, there's somewhere in between using it

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<v Speaker 1>for your energy and fueling you and being above it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where Kyrie and Kad need to be. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>they're down the mud and they're letting the they're letting

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<v Speaker 1>the bags bring them to the you know, the dbs

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<v Speaker 1>bring them to their level. That that's what it feels like.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh interesting, Doug, I will say, I love how you

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<v Speaker 1>say that. Uh go and apt people on a chat

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<v Speaker 1>now that chats don't exist in it. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like Twitter. I mean, like, you know, I totally

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<v Speaker 1>understand where these guys, you're going like, look, man, they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll post something on Instagram about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter's turned sixteen last last week, and you'll get

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that slides in and wants to post something about

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<v Speaker 1>something you said on a radio show. Really what are

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<v Speaker 1>we doing? And but you know, as you get older,

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<v Speaker 1>you just go like, I'm just gonna block this person. Yea, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no play whatever. But I look, I've I've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>myself because every corporation is the same, you know, plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of I've worked for three of them. Yeah, I'm at CBS.

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<v Speaker 1>Are like, dude, you can't why well, why can't die? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, Doug, listen, you've had a front row

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<v Speaker 1>seat to this as well. You know that. And I

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<v Speaker 1>hope I'm not an insulting people in this one. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably a bad intro, but Doug, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>guys who are married and had the kids and they've

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<v Speaker 1>got like they leave work and you leave work right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're at home, hang with the fam. You guys are

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<v Speaker 1>going out to dinner, You're doing your thing. You got

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<v Speaker 1>the kids, their homework, they're youth sports. Like you're busy.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have time to be on social media all

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<v Speaker 1>the friggin time, seeing all the damn dumb comments. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get in your head because guess what, who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>I've got other stuff going on in my life. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's never gotten in your head, No dog. I mean again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very fortunate. I had to be honest, it absolutely has.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'd say years ago, ye years ago, I

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<v Speaker 1>I would say it was I'm probably gonna go. Like

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<v Speaker 1>nine years ago. I thought I was in that for

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<v Speaker 1>like a year and a half there. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>in that dark space of constantly checking the phone. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't check. I never checked my mentions. It was

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<v Speaker 1>more the replies, you know, the edifications and the report Doug.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been We've we know people we've I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to name them here, but we've been front row for

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<v Speaker 1>people who don't have a lot going on in their

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<v Speaker 1>social life outside of work, and this stuff gets to

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<v Speaker 1>them big time. If you let it get to you,

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<v Speaker 1>it can. If you don't compartmentalize and walk away from

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<v Speaker 1>this and just enjoy life and forget about these haters

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<v Speaker 1>and these losers, it can get to you. Now. I

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<v Speaker 1>know Kyrie Irving, I think he somebody that he's with

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<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend or X or whatever. He has a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>he has some stuff going on. UM, So I just

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<v Speaker 1>wonder how much of it is he's letting the outside

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<v Speaker 1>stuff get to him, because I'll tell you right now, Doug,

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<v Speaker 1>he's really opening himself up big time. Like it's one

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<v Speaker 1>thing for us to say the Pelicans had thirty nine points.

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<v Speaker 1>He did, but they lost and if they lose again.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, he was not great on the

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<v Speaker 1>final possession fourth quarter. I know he had eighteen. Fourth well,

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<v Speaker 1>he hit the key, hit the three, the three was incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>but he basically said I want this final bucket. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when they were up one and they double teamed him

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<v Speaker 1>and he waited two damn long Kadi had to force

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<v Speaker 1>like a twenty five foot or off balance. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was a bad possession by your so called leader, um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Kyrie and Kade both got called ball watching

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<v Speaker 1>basically on the Jason Tatum cut just such a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you are bag basketball coach your kids. I

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<v Speaker 1>instantly called my kids over. I pause the TV, I

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<v Speaker 1>re wound, I go, guys, look at what Jason Tatum does.

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<v Speaker 1>He simply cuts to the basket. He doesn't just stand

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<v Speaker 1>there with his hand up, cuts to the basket, look

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<v Speaker 1>at the defenders, just ball watching, and it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>great basketball teachable moment. And listen, Kyrie will be better

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<v Speaker 1>in game two. But Doug, I'm just saying they go down,

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<v Speaker 1>oh two, wouldn't shock me if Barclays is booing in

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<v Speaker 1>game three, if they if they're in a hole of

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<v Speaker 1>any kind. Because Kyrie put this team together, fired Atkinson

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<v Speaker 1>helped reshape the roster, allegedly, depending who you want to believe,

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<v Speaker 1>drove James Harden out of town. And now you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, you know we've been waiting for this.

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<v Speaker 1>What is this your three with these guys, And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, we can't even get out of the

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<v Speaker 1>first round. And I'm just saying, Kyrie bring he wants

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<v Speaker 1>all the smoke, that's fine. I just just be ready

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<v Speaker 1>for the fall out if they cannot get by Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fascinating, all right, coming up next year, So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do. We'll get to the Kaepernick stuff little later

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<v Speaker 1>on this hour. And it's only it's like I almost

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<v Speaker 1>feel apologetic talking by Kaepernick because I think most people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, dude, it's it's it's over, right, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's maybe it's not over. It's an interesting discussion. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to that, and then Apper Coming up next, FRANKI

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<v Speaker 1>Soul is going to join us. Of course, he has

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<v Speaker 1>series XM NBA show. We'll ask him about Kyrie and

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not his approach is good for the league.

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<v Speaker 1>FRANKI soul is going to join us in about in

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<v Speaker 1>about five minutes. Here's what I wanted, Here's what I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do, Jason. Jason McIntyre, who of course founded

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<v Speaker 1>The Big Lead. You can now see him on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>can listen to the Doug Gottlieb Show daily three to

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<v Speaker 1>six Eastern twelve three Pacific, your iHeartRadio app Fox Sports Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you're listen to us on Sirius XM, same

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<v Speaker 1>channel every afternoon at three on the East and noon

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<v Speaker 1>on the West. But m Colin Kaepernick was on the

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an Athlete podcast and again like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where you are, Jason, but it's Cam Newton is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of going to be in that in that discussion point. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as for this offseason, in preseason and during the season,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody gets hurt, and why don't you bring in Cam Newton,

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<v Speaker 1>Like because he can't throw a football anymore and he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to be really want to be a backup.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe they all say they want to be backups

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<v Speaker 1>or do they or do they? But the Kaepernick thing

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting because as much as there's there was this

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<v Speaker 1>sense from some in public, many in mainstream media that

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<v Speaker 1>he was blackballed out of the Nation Football League. The

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<v Speaker 1>reality is back when he first was released by the Niners,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a sense or people believe they couldn't sign

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<v Speaker 1>him for lessons. He wanted starter money. Remember he visited Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>and Pete Carroll kept saying like, well, he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be a starter, right, he wants and they had Russell Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure Russell Wilson nixed that deal, like no way,

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<v Speaker 1>no how, we're bringing that thing in the bringing that

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<v Speaker 1>circus into my locker room, you know. But he said

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<v Speaker 1>he changed, and this is what he said to Brandon Marshall.

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<v Speaker 1>I think more than anything, it is a passion like

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<v Speaker 1>you had those dreams from me to your kid. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean like I'm gonna be an NFL player and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win a super Bowl. And for me, I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>unfinished business on that front. I've been to the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>We're one play away. It's like, well I need to

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<v Speaker 1>finish that. If you had a message for gms and

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<v Speaker 1>owners and you wanted them to know anything, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you say? So, let me come in compete.

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<v Speaker 1>You have your roster, you had a team. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>come in compete, show you what I can do. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think, Jason, Yeah, I want to start here.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the end of the first hour, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we always are texting about what we're gonna talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dougs like, I want to talk about Kaepernick. And

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<v Speaker 1>my instant response was going to be maybe an expletive

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<v Speaker 1>or why or and I thought about it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you know Doug's passage about this, let him

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<v Speaker 1>go for me. Somebody mentions Colin Kaepernick. I say, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>the last time he threw a pass was twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait is that right? Twenty sixteen, six years ago he

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<v Speaker 1>threw a pass in the NFL. And he's a talking

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<v Speaker 1>point now and I love his quote, and again what

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<v Speaker 1>Kaepernick's done, Hey, more power to him. Let me compete.

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<v Speaker 1>You can evaluate me from there. Listen. You can't just

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<v Speaker 1>climb in the ring with Ali and just say hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let me compete. Let me battle you. You know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I joked to people when they say I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to play basketball against you, I said, you can't just

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<v Speaker 1>climb in the ring with Ali. Obviously, I'm not Ali

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<v Speaker 1>at basketball. That being said, like, it doesn't work that way.

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<v Speaker 1>When Ron Rivera, when he was fired in Carolina, he

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<v Speaker 1>ends up in Washington. You know what the first movie

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<v Speaker 1>he did, Doug, he brought in quarterbacks that he had

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<v Speaker 1>worked with before that knew his system. That's what you

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<v Speaker 1>do in the NFL. When a certain guy gets to

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<v Speaker 1>a certain TV network. What is the first thing he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do. He's gonna bring you guys he knows that

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<v Speaker 1>he works with, that he has a relationship with. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not just bringing in random dudes. Off and again, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got no problem with Kaepernick wanting to compete. I get that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't see it happening. And Doug, that's really

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<v Speaker 1>all I got to say, Like, I don't see it happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Well, that's where he screwed himself. Okay, because

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned guys he worked with and before they before

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<v Speaker 1>they got Lamar Jackson, you know that they the Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens were kicking the tires and Greg Romans are offensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator and John Harball, of course, I'm sure had faith

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<v Speaker 1>in him from from his relationship with his brother Jim Harball,

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<v Speaker 1>Like all that made sense. But then, of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend at the time puts out a meme that

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<v Speaker 1>likens the owner of the Ravens to Django unchained, and

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<v Speaker 1>that deal got mixed. So there was a smart landing

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<v Speaker 1>spot for him to have another chance, and he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of ruined it. And then you know, you do a

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<v Speaker 1>documentary and you call the NFL draft modern day slave trade,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess, are we supposed to forge? Are people

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to forget all of that? Yeah? Well, because nine

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<v Speaker 1>years ago was the last time you you you were

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<v Speaker 1>really really good in the league, Like what's the statute

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<v Speaker 1>of limitations on comments like that? Though it wasn't that

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<v Speaker 1>long ago, it was it was within the calendar year

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<v Speaker 1>that that that documentary dropped, and like Alli, like again,

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<v Speaker 1>he's what he's saying. The problem with Kaepernick isn't the

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:31.959
<v Speaker 1>isn't the bringing him in. The problem is he's like, well,

0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:34.720
<v Speaker 1>if I'm not good enough, cut me, Like come on,

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:36.959
<v Speaker 1>we know what, like you you get cut and they

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:40.920
<v Speaker 1>keep somebody else and in you know, you're going to

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:43.720
<v Speaker 1>be told that he's only getting cut because of his

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<v Speaker 1>political stance. Um, look, if he's I would guess that

0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:51.440
<v Speaker 1>if he's not signed here before the NFL Draft, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to see him, you know, get on a

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<v Speaker 1>roster because it's not just the guys that are drafted,

0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 1>it's all the undrafted free agents. But I look, I

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<v Speaker 1>like the fact that he said, hey, I'll come in

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<v Speaker 1>at the minimum. The problem is that there was though

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's humble in terms of salary, it's not humble

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:13.400
<v Speaker 1>in terms of approach. Hey, I'm I'm gonna be the starter. Like, Mmm,

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>that's not you're gonna come team. You're gonna come in

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<v Speaker 1>as a minimum guy. You're gonna come in his best

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<v Speaker 1>chance of making it. I don't believe is in that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me give you a team. Uh. And again I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just floating this. I'm not fully saying I believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you want to look at a team that has

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<v Speaker 1>no chance of competing this year. They have an uncertain

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 1>quarterback situation at best, but they have a coach with

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:40.400
<v Speaker 1>a contract security, they have a GM with contract security,

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and the kapper and I really don't like using this

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>word dug. I know it's like a popular buzzword, but

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 1>they are It's kind of a woke city and that

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:52.639
<v Speaker 1>would be yes, Seattle. Um. All reports are that that

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Pete Carroll loves Drew Locke. Maybe he's dating Pete Carroll's daughter.

0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but nobody loves Drew lock. I'm sorry.

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Drew Locke is been a very bad NFL quarterback by

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<v Speaker 1>any statistical measure. But if you're Seattle, you you're probably

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna end up drafting one in Malique willist as a

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.240
<v Speaker 1>rid or whoever Sam Howell, and then you got Drew Locke.

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.919
<v Speaker 1>If if you draft, if you draft a quarterback, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not bringing in Colin Kaepernick. Well, I mean, listen, somebody's

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:19.479
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to sit out and hold the clipboard every week.

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Drew Locke gets hurt all the time. I don't think

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:22.959
<v Speaker 1>it's the worst thing in the world to bring him

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<v Speaker 1>in for a look. See if you give him a

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<v Speaker 1>shine and don't forget, you get some media pub simply

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<v Speaker 1>from bringing in Kaepernick. And guess what Seattle is going

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>to be in the toughest division in football. And oh,

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 1>by the way, Doug, they play the AFC West. The

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>AFC West is unbelievably stacked, so there's a chance they

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<v Speaker 1>go own four against the AFC West and maybe Ohen

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:46.679
<v Speaker 1>six against Arizona San Fran and the Rams. So now

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at oh and ten, you're looking at a

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>three win team. You give Kaepernick his five minutes of

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:52.920
<v Speaker 1>fame that he wants and give him a chance. Maybe

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>he throws a pass and you get a lot of

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, Darren Ravelle loves to mention this free advertising

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff. Will well, well we'll circle but

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:05.440
<v Speaker 1>we'll circle back. But your your your your thought. You

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:07.920
<v Speaker 1>were good and then you started spinning. The world started

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 1>spinning off its access there when you when you went

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>to the went to the let's get some positive media

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>pub by throwing in Colin Kaepernick for a play and

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>you get networks, which is great, right, You get basted

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 1>and you get love, so you get it all. Yeah,

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how that helps the bottom line in

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<v Speaker 1>any way or helps you actually win football games or

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:27.880
<v Speaker 1>gets you close to rebuilding. Let's let's let's get back

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<v Speaker 1>to basketball with Jason McIntire. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the Dan Patrick Show. Frank Is solo joins us. Of

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.440
<v Speaker 1>course covered the league for years, long time scribe. You

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 1>can hear a serious XM show um on NBA Radio.

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>You can fall him on Twitter at the Frank Isola. Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's start. Let's start with with Philly last night.

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<v Speaker 1>How are so many so wrong about Toronto's ability to

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<v Speaker 1>be competitive in this series. Yeah, that's a good point,

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and maybe people were just looking back at last year's

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 1>playoffs series that the last time you saw Philadelphia in

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>the playoffsainst Atlanta, the way they lost Game five at home,

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.400
<v Speaker 1>the way that they lost Game seven. I think Scottie

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Barnes going out it's a big loss, but again it's

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>still only two home wins. If you know Toronto, you

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>know back in their building will be tough. And I

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:16.440
<v Speaker 1>think Joel Embiid just added a pretty good storyline because

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 1>him and Nick Nurse getting into it at the end

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 1>of the game, and then Joel Embiid saying that he

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 1>told Nick Nurse to stopp complaining about calls. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that series is still going to have a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of juice when it goes to Toronto, even though

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<v Speaker 1>right now Toronto's down two. Yeah, Frank, I would look

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>at it is Toronto was a bad matchup for Philly

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>because of all the Wings they could contain Harden. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think anybody anticipated Tyrese Maxie being the second best player,

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 1>not even on Philly, but in the entire series, he

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<v Speaker 1>looks incredible. Do you have now new thoughts on the Sixers?

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<v Speaker 1>Can they push this Miami team? Hell? Can they beat

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.919
<v Speaker 1>them next round? Well, and well, that's gonna be the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The one if you go back to last year's playoffs

0:27:56.400 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Miami against Milwaukee, No, Jannis really bullied Bam out of Bio,

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Bam out of bout. It is a terrific defender. But

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>he's also six foot nine, so they'll have some trouble

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>if those two teams do end up meeting in the

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.639
<v Speaker 1>second round. It's Philadelphia in Miami. Miami will have some

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>issues with EMBIID. And you've brought up a good point

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>about Maxie, who now has kind of become their third

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>best player. And if you're gonna have Tobias Harris as

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 1>your fourth best player, that's pretty good. So they certainly

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 1>have enough offense. You still wonder when Harden is going

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>to get going. Like last night, You know, if you

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 1>lose that game and you look at hard and the numbers,

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be man he's got to be better than that.

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I still think, you know, Harden is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have some really good moments. You know. I

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>think it's funny because there's so much pressure on the Sixers.

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>If they don't go far, I don't think Doc will

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>be the coach there. And obviously James Harden left the

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn Nets in the first thing. He said, what I

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<v Speaker 1>can't philadep to give myself a better chance to win

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>a championship, which is kind of a slap in the

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<v Speaker 1>face to Kevin Durant. So they have a lot of

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>pressure on them, but let's be fair, they've been pretty

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>impressive their first two games. I will I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>though I believe players know, and I believe those stories

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<v Speaker 1>to be true that Durant knows. I don't think he

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>has the juice anymore. I just I just don't. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what we're seeing here is he's always

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<v Speaker 1>struggled a bit in the playoffs because it's the game's

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>officiated differently. But I just I'm not sure he's got

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the juice anymore. He's a great player, but you don't

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>take care of yourself for that long and that many

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>times now he started to get a little bit older.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that's caught up with him, or catching

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<v Speaker 1>up with him, not that he's washed, but but the

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<v Speaker 1>but the superstar James Harden days I don't think are

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<v Speaker 1>still are still around. Yeah, Doug, I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to that. And you know Hardened, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a terrific player, and the word is that he puts

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>in the work. Now, I don't think he put in

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<v Speaker 1>as much work than the off season. And when he

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>showed up a training camp in Brooklyn, he wasn't in

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<v Speaker 1>great shape and early on when he wasn't getting calls,

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<v Speaker 1>and he complained about that. But then he also revealed

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>that he really didn't play much five on five over

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>the summer because of that hamstring injury which knocked him

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<v Speaker 1>out for a couple of games against Milwaukee, and to

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<v Speaker 1>his credit, he was playing on one leg in that

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>second round series at the lost. But I also think, listen,

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>he enjoys the spoils of being a rich, single professional

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>athlete where you know, he you know, he has a

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>lifestyle where he likes to go out, he likes to

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>hang out. But that catches up to some guys, you know,

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>some guys, I remember covering a million years ago Latrell's

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Freewell in New York and Latrelle could like burn the candy,

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, the candle at both ends, be out all night,

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>and he would come out, he'd be flyinal for the court.

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>It never affected him. But I think with a guy

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<v Speaker 1>like Harden, that's something that he's going to have to

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>watch because clearly he's he doesn't look the same as

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>he did last year. And if you guys remember when

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>he first came to Brooklyn and he was playing every

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>game and Durant was out and Kyrie was doing whatever

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Kyrie was doing, he was out as well. Everyone was

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.959
<v Speaker 1>talking about the MVP as being either Yokich or hardened.

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>So there was a while there last season when Harden

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 1>was playing at an MVP level. I don't think he's

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>gotten back to that standard just yet. Help us out

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 1>with Frank Shula Jinius covered the NBA for years at

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Serious XM NBA Radio. Where are you in the Kyrie?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I you know, fans obviously, especially in that triangle

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>of Philly, New York and Boston, You're you're always going

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 1>to have fans. And because he's antagonized and because of

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.479
<v Speaker 1>his time with the Celtics. You knew what was going

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 1>to happen. But the double birds, the yelling, I'm gonna

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not just gonna push back against it. I'm gonna

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 1>talk back to it. Where are you on how Kyrie's

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>handling this? Now, there's one thing to talk back to it.

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I think the hand gestures. I think that's a bad look,

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and obviously the league frowns upon that. You know, I

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>remember covering a lot of playoff games in Madison Square

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Guard and two villains there for a long time were

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Miller and Alonso Mourning. Reggie had a way of

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of probably engaging the fans a little bit more.

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Alonso Mourning really to go down that road. They just

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of accepted it, took it, and they just carried on.

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>They didn't really ever talk about it, you know. You know,

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Kyrie also has to take a little responsibility here from

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>this standpoint. Last year, when they played their final game

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>in Boston before taking the Celtics had in five games,

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 1>he stomped on the center court logost lucky and kind

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>of wiped his feet there. This year, he said that

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>the Celtic fans are like a scorn girlfriend who done

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 1>understand why I broke up with them, So he's kind

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of fed into it, almost in a good natured way,

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>so it's almost encouraging the fans and poking them a

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>little bit. It clearly affect his play for the most part.

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I would say the game on Sunday because he had

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>a great game, but I also wonder, you know, he

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 1>hits that three with forty five point nine sentence Togo

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and at the time it looked like a dagger three,

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 1>and then the last forty seconds for the next were

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a disaster. But on their last offensive possession, you know,

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>was he thinking at that time, I'm going to stick

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>it to the fans one more time because he dribbled

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>himself into no man's land. Then he passed it out

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>to Durant and you had to shoot a ball out

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>three late in the shot clock, which obviously started the

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 1>fast break where the Celtics get the game winning basket.

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>So maybe that in that last moment, maybe he got

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>a little too caught up, and it's clearly bothering him

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>because he's responding to everything and he kind of has

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>rabbity ears, and even that video of him walking off

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the court at halftime where you know, the one fan

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>you know he's a knucklehead, yells out, Kyrie, you stink.

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm put him stink in parentheses. You know. Kyrie's response

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that like, uh, you know he really raised it to

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>a different level. You know you're in New Yorker. You

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>love that, don't lie? No, I don't listen. I don't.

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it adds to a playoffs series. But I

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>just think the league has to be careful here because

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I told a story that kind of got under reported

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>last week Byles British has walking up the court of Biles.

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>British had a great year. He's a terrific player. He

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>throws his mouthpiece at some fan who I'm sure the

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>guy is probably a knucklehead. Him bustling his chops the

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>whole game. He misses and hit some young girl in

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<v Speaker 1>the head. So and then his thing was, yeah, I

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't mean to hit her. I was thrown at somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it that's still acceptable? Yeah? I just think that, like,

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the league's gotta be careful with a lot of stuff.

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, last year when Russell Westbrook had popcorn dropped

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<v Speaker 1>on him, like we had to paul Us for like

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<v Speaker 1>a day and get lectured on how fans need to

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<v Speaker 1>behave at games. It was treated as if the guy

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<v Speaker 1>was throwing darts at Russell Westbrook. Now we have Miles

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Bridges throwing his mouthpiece and hitting some girl on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of the head. You know, it is disgusting. You know,

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>wet mouthpiece s live all over and in the age

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<v Speaker 1>of COVID, and that story didn't even he didn't get

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>suspended for that believer, I thought there was a chance

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 1>he might get a three game suspension. I know he

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>got fined, but I just think I understand that the

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:30.840
<v Speaker 1>fans probably take liberties a little too much, but the

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>players also just have to be careful. The last thing

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.879
<v Speaker 1>you want is another malice in the palace. Yeah, Frank Lebby,

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>ask Kyrie Irving. And this is a tough word for

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<v Speaker 1>some people to digest when I say it, but is

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>he just absolutely overrated? Because I know he's an incredible talent,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's great at dribbling the basketball, getting to the bucket, finishing,

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 1>he's a great scorer. But is he overrated as a

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<v Speaker 1>player because he never wins anything? And Frank, I've been

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>pushing this narrative today. If they lose this series. This

0:34:57.920 --> 0:34:59.919
<v Speaker 1>is all going to be on Kyrie Irving because guess

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 1>he's the one who built this team. He fired the

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>last coach Atkinson's he wants all the smoke from Boston fans. Uh.

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>You know. Listen, Kevin Durant's the best player on the team,

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and Kevin Durance was like watching Kyrie Irving in the

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter. I know he brought them back, but if

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>he cannot get them out of the first round, there's

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>a guy who was unvaccinated, which is whether the seventh

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 1>seed to begin with, it's overrated too strong of a

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>word to describe Kyrie Irving. I think it is. I

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.240
<v Speaker 1>will say this and Doug mentioned it before, where players

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>know and if you hear players talk about Kyrie, you

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>know they talk about his skill level. I think the

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 1>biggest issue with Kyrie is that he just doesn't play enough.

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 1>And when he does play, you know there are some games,

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 1>especially on the defensive end, what he's just that as engaged.

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:44.399
<v Speaker 1>So if you go back to that that TNT game

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:47.439
<v Speaker 1>back on was that mark I think it was early

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>March when they played to Philadelphia. There was a big

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 1>thing about, you know, Kyrie Irving and James hard. It

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>clearly there was an issue there, and Kyrie was so engaged.

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean he locked up hard and big. That game

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>was over by the first quarter. I thought at the time,

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, Kyrie has the ability. Yep. If he defended

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.320
<v Speaker 1>like this on most nights, yep. We know he's a

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>terrific offensive but layer. But he played seventy years a year,

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>he would be an MVP. Kennedy. He listen, Frank Frank

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Brad Stevens told me, and this is back when he

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>was playing for him, He's like, Kyrie could lead the

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 1>league and assists every single year. I was like, why

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't he He's like, you're gonna have to ask k

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I read that one, but you know it's he has

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 1>He's there's a bit of an enigma there and we

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 1>have to if you're just being honest, you just call

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 1>it like it is. The last two baskets were scored

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 1>right over him, layups right by him. Now he's not

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>a rim protector, but his defense was soft on the

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 1>first possession and then he did. You know, it wasn't

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>totally his fault at all with the with the ball watching,

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 1>but he was ball watching and and miss Wood could

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 1>have been a steel wasn't in position to make Tatum

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 1>go through his body. So but but but man, I mean,

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:55.359
<v Speaker 1>their magic happens when he does have the basketball. Frank,

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 1>great stuff. Look forward to hearing your show a little

0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>bit later on in series. Sex M thanks so much

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>for joining us to the Day Patrick Show. Here guys,

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 1>all right, that's the great Frankie Solo joining us on

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>the Dan Patro with Jason McIntyre. I'm Doug Gottlieb. Let's

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 1>circle back to the to the Kaepernick thing. Okay, we'll

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>circle back to the Kaepernick thing. Should he get it?

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Did he get a shot? Seattle? Is what Jason said.

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:18.680
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0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Ey Soul. That was great. We'll get back to the

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Kyrie Irving and the enigma that is talk some Golden

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>State Warriors, uh some quietly again Phoenix Suns just eviscerating

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 1>an opponent and Chris Paul the point God doing what

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>he does. And of course Jalen Brunson was amazing last night.

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 1>So we got some NBA talk. Um, we've we've, we've

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:57.320
<v Speaker 1>discussed and we'll continue to discuss. These three young wide

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>receivers in the final year of the rookie contracts who

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 1>are kind of locking arms and wanting the market, you know,

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to catch up with them. But I do think that

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>like Jason, I'm I'm I'm with you. I mean in

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 1>your initial reaction when I heard the Kaepernick thing, and

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm just you know, when he went and through footballs

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:22.399
<v Speaker 1>at Michigan, I think, wait, hold on, hold on, time out,

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Doug holding through footballs at Michigan. I was unaware of that.

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I just remembered. I said in the last segment, you

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:33.359
<v Speaker 1>got a partner up with guys that know you Jim Harball, Yeah, Kaepernick. Yeah.

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if Harball had got to the league this

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 1>past offseason, which sounded like it was more I want

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>more money as opposed to everyone to go to the NFL.

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 1>That was his guy. He thought I was getting that

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota gig. I think I think he did, and I

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>think that the GM, who of course was had worked

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 1>with him some in San Francisco. I think he just

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 1>decided to go a different Wow. That's a bummer for CAP,

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>honestly because Minnesota there was some talk that they could

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 1>move on from Kirk Cousins and not moving on from

0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Kirk Cousins. Wow, look at the numbers. There's just no

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.840
<v Speaker 1>way they had to read think what numbers the vikings

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>missing the playoffs again or know the numbers in terms

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 1>of that contract so bad they actually had to redo

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>it so in the future it's not as bad, but

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:14.319
<v Speaker 1>it's it just so so prohibitive against the CAP. There's

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 1>there's no way. Plus, they like they like him, they

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>think he's good. They don't think he's the problem. He

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>may not be the solution, but he's also not the problem.

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>He definitely is not the solution. I mean, listen, good quarterback,

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>top just fifteen quarterback. But that's I mean, they're not

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>making He just went from he's not the solution to

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>top fifteen quarters. Yeah, top fifteen quarterback. We're gonna get

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 1>fifteen us don't make the NBA NFL playoffs. Like, I

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:38.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know that he is the solution. Who would you

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 1>rather have going forward? Kyler Murray or Kirk Cousins. Whoa

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:48.399
<v Speaker 1>you gotta think that would over? I like Kyler Murray

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot, dude, he was and I know he was

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>banged up, but he was bad the end last year

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and he was worse the end of this year. Dedre

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Hopkins when you took DeAndre Hopkins away from him, Okay,

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>he was better, A better one, better one, Derek Carr,

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>because Kyler Murray's on the rookie Derek Car. Derek Carr,

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Kyler or Kirk Cousins. Derek Carr. Here you go, but

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 1>not by the Car made the playoffs. Not by a ton.

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Derek Carr made the playoffs throwing the hunter renfro and

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:15.880
<v Speaker 1>a couple of guys that drive for door Dash in

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the offseason. Bro Like Derek Carr's a good quarterback and

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 1>underrated by the way. Waller was hurt. He miss half

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the season, didn't he? I understand Darren Waller was pretty good. Okay,

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, look, they make the playoffs. It was awesome,

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:32.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's about his leadership. But like he's he's still

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the fourth best quarterback in that division. Yes he is, Yes, Yes,

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Like let's not go crazy because the Raiders somehow miraculously

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:45.439
<v Speaker 1>made the playoffs. It's interesting we both rather have Derek

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:47.919
<v Speaker 1>car than Kirk Cousins. And again, I'm not gonna hammer

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 1>this point home. I mentioned unvaccinated. I don't I think

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 1>if you were to ask, if you gave some truth

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 1>serum to Zimmer, I guarantee you he'd bring up the

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>unvaccinated stuff. With Kirk Cousins, I guarantee it. By the way,

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:04.359
<v Speaker 1>the Carson wentz unvaccinated ticked off the Indianapolis Colts front

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:06.840
<v Speaker 1>office to no end, and when they missed the playoffs,

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>it was like, get this guy and wait, there's there's

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>no there's no question, okay, and and what the what?

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 1>What the the the non vacks you know, shout at

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the wind. Guys have to understand is again, it's a

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>lot like the mel Kapert like, look, man, we told

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you this was the deal. You knew it's the deal.

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Football is the ultimate team sport. To be a good teammate,

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that's what you have to do. And he didn't do it.

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:35.800
<v Speaker 1>That that that said, it's like everybody wants to replace

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback. Do you have one waiting in the wings?

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, and you just don't. It's hard to find

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>a guy. It's really hard to find a guy. A

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>quarterback list. Wilderness is brutal as the Miami Dolphins. Oh,

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean the Dan Marino the Bears have been searching

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 1>for for years. Jet never really had Jets, Baby, I

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 1>got my Jet. I mean, look, the Browns just gave

0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 1>a ridiculous contract to a guy who hadn't played in

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the year and had two ACLS twenty two civil suits

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 1>against him because they need one. They're in that they're

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 1>in that desert. All right, we'll get out of that

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 1>desert and we'll get to is Steph Curry in the

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Warrior's Back that's next to the day Patrick's show.