WEBVTT - Arron Oberholser on Today’s Young Stars and the Open Championship 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.360 Welcome back to another edition of the Frida Egg Podcast. 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:07.960 Today's episode is powered by tdamor Trade. Every stroke counts 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:10.520 on the scorecard and every penny counts in the market. 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:14.880 That's why Tedameritrade is committed to straightforward pricing with no surprises, 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.800 so you're free to swing with confidence. Visit tedomortrade dot 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:23.880 com slash Fried Egg member SIPC. Today we welcome on 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.560 Aeron Oberholzer. Aaron played on the PGA Tour for a 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:31.080 number of years and is now an analyst on the 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.720 Golf Channel. Kind of a jack of all trades, covering 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:39.560 everything from NCAA Golf to the PGA Tour. This week 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.160 he's out at the Senior Players and we just kind 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:47.280 of pick up our conversation here talking about Matt Wolf's 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.559 win last week, the Young Guns on tour, kind of 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.800 what's changed in the game, and then we close with 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:55.440 a little bit of talk about the Open. 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:59.279 So here's Aeron Oberholzer. I miss a green, for example, 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:00.360 I'm already a set. 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:02.720 When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:04.120 And when I find my ball. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.800 In a brid Egg Frida Egg, the dreaded Frida Egg, 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:09.160 Frida egg egg Frida, egg. 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:09.760 Bride egg Lie. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:11.440 I'm about ready to run off of them. 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.199 The distance thing is gonna just be with the young guys. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:44.000 It's it's just crazy because everybody was like, oh, Champson anomaly. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:45.679 It's like, no, he's just the start. 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.920 No, he's just him and him and Wolf at the beginning. Yeah, 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.000 him and Wolf at the beginning. I played with a kid. 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:55.440 I'm good friends with the kid. He's like a little 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:59.000 brother to me. Frankie Sappan who plays for Alabama, he's 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:03.480 one toy when he wants it all day, all day. 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.720 We went and played his home club, North Oaks UH 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:11.680 in Minnesota a couple of nights, two nights ago, just 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.120 played nine holes for fun. Had my boys out there 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.440 and they were whacking it around and Frankie was coming 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.880 off the lake like he was wake surfing all week 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.480 up in there. Uh just had a week off. He 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:29.440 was up there with the family and no warm up swings, 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.079 no practice. Gets on the first tee. There's a bunker 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.040 down there on the right side, downhill t shot bunker 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.760 on the right side. It's got to be a solid 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:46.280 to ninety carry probably yeah, probably three bills to carry 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:50.919 it to play in about two two ninety downhill and 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:56.720 flushes it over the bunker by fifteen twenty yards and 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.600 hit a hit an eight iron into the into the 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.040 first hole was a par five. I hit a five wood. 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.000 I necked mine a little bit down, but I was 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.240 in the middle of the fairway and literally hit five wood. 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:09.080 He hit eight iron. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:10.600 It's crazy. 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.760 So this is just the start. You're right. He was 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:18.600 twenty five to thirty yards by me easily, sometimes forty 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.920 when he wanted to be all the whole nine holes 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.400 we played, it was unbelievable the speed. 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:27.720 I was talking to this kid. 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.320 Could I know his coach at the US Open? He was, Uh, 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.400 he was an altar. He was the first alternate. 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.200 And the guy we were. 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.920 Just talking he teaches all the you know, a lot 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.600 of the young kids in Chicago that are like really good. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:45.119 He's got a few guys. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.560 That are probably going to be on tour soon. But 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.200 he was telling me, he is like all I teach 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.200 now is all we work on is speed and putting. 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.160 Yep, that's all it is speed and putting. 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:01.360 Yeah. Just you hit it far and then you make putts. 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:04.440 And you're gonna be good. Yeah, because you'll learn how 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.200 to eventually. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.960 Exactly a pro approach play comes into play. I mean, 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.520 you look this last week, and approach play was really important. 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.160 I mean, you know, Morikawa was won. He's not long, 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.880 but his proproach play has to be good because he's 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:23.560 not long, he's an average length guy. But but Wolf 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.839 Wolfe's approach play was stellar. So there is some there. 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.320 When you get to the highest level, it does become 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:35.400 about proper control and approach play. But it's so much easier, 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.040 made so much easier if you've got one hundred and 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:42.800 seventy five or lesson on every hole. You know, so 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:44.800 if you're not playing outside of one hundred and seventy 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.360 five yards, the game's pretty simple. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.960 That's I think that is what kind of makes Wolf 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.320 and Morikawa a little bit different than say like a 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.960 Cameron Champ or you know, some of the other young 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:01.159 guys that we've seen recently. As they you know, like Markaua. 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.880 Put on one of the best press performance of the 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:06.320 whole season of the. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:12.240 Year, without a doubt. He he. Here's the funny thing. 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.880 Lavener and I were talking about this and early in 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.359 the year or during nty double A's and then and 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.920 I after I saw Marikawa for the first time play 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:27.240 up close at Pasa Tieno at the Western, I really 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.040 looked at his game and I said, and then I've 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.360 seen Wolf, and I knew I was gonna see Wolf 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.000 again at nty Double A's and I knew what he's 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.840 He's done this year. But I'm sitting there looking at 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.880 Marikawa and I'm going, this is the most tour ready 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:42.680 dude of the four guys. I mean, like, if you 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:46.440 look at the complete game, you know there's just he 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:51.800 doesn't have any weaknesses. Is he's not long, but you 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.479 know which is which might be his only weakness quite honestly, Colin, 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.120 because every other part of his game I watched him 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:02.440 and I'm like, not good swing, controls his distances really well, 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.159 flights his ball, can hit it both directions, cuts it, 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:11.960 fades it, he's not scared, drives it really well, his 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.080 good touch around the greens and puts it great. And 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.880 I'm sitting there going, well, you know whereas Wolf, you know, 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.960 I saw some holes in his game quite honestly that 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.480 could I thought could be cleaned up. Hoblin, I've felt 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.360 had some holes. He's not a he's not a great 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:33.599 putter Hoblin isn't he's I think him and Wolf are 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.560 going to be streaky to start with. And you saw 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.039 it where Wolf got hot and used his distance to 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.400 his advantage. But Moro Cow is going to be that 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:49.040 like real plotter, consistent, just not make any mistakes. And uh, 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.479 I just I just I see I saw Colin of 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:56.000 the four and you know, throwing cell in there. I 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.440 thought that I thought that Colin had the most tour 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:05.000 ready aim from driver through the putter as far as 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.640 two are ready to win, you know, obviously with the distance, 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.840 like you just said, the guy with the distance stuff, 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:12.680 it was it was it was I thought it was 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.400 Wolf who had who who could win right away. It 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.480 was definitely Matt Wolfe, especially when you look at the 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.840 courses he's coming through in the Midwest. I thought he 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.320 might give himself a shot and he did. Yeah, it's 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.320 and then and then took advantage of it. 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.520 See you've covered you know, you did a lot of 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.000 college stuff this this spring. It's a I mean, so 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.800 did you foresee all of them having as much success 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:37.880 as they did? 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.200 When you know, you saw Colin at at the. 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.160 Western and then n C a As and then he 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.200 saw you know, Victor and Uh and Matt Wolfe at 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:47.440 UH at the NCAA's. 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.120 Did you expect him all to play so well so quick? 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:55.160 Uh? Uh? I actually, you know what's quite quite honestly, 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.640 I didn't expect I thought there. I thought it'd be 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:02.280 a little bumpier for Matt. I expected Hoblin to play 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.920 well he has, And I expected Colin Morikawa to play 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:13.080 well he has. After watching Justin's Justin's Got Justin. I 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.880 watched Justin for eighteen holes at Passing and he didn't 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.160 have his best day, didn't have his best stuff by 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.200 any stretch, and pass he beat him up a little bit. 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.600 But there are some I see. I see Justin needing. 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.680 I see Justin quite honestly needing a year on the 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:34.320 web or on the corn Ferry Tour. He he's he 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:38.240 of the four, he's the least ready to to to 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.640 to play at this level based on what I saw. 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:46.559 Yeah, it's I mean, obviously everybody's gonna compare this class. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.360 I mean, and the you know, one of the things 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.400 is like Will Gordon hasn't even really you know that 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.480 that he hasn't gotten the tour sponsor, but he's been 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.960 playing on Canada, and he's been he's been lighting it 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:01.160 up up there. I mean, he's another Yeah, just unbelievable talent, 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:06.080 so that everybody's this class to that and. 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:11.920 Will and Will's stand Yeah, Will's fantastic. Cameron Young if 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:13.960 he could, if as long as his back stays healthy 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:18.960 from from Wake Forest, he's a stud. He could do it. There. 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.079 There's a this class is going to be when it's 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.640 all said and done, the class that's either graduated or 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:29.600 come out this year twenty nineteen out of college, they're 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:33.640 gonna they're all really really strong players. And and and 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:37.760 I can see I can see all the aforementioned guys 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.840 being on tour at some point with full full status 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:44.200 at some point, probably within the next two to three years. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:48.080 Quite honestly, Justin's got to work on his wedge play. 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:49.719 So he's got to work on his wedge play as 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.440 flighting his irons. He hits the ball. He hits the 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.160 ball in my opinion, too high. 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.920 And uh, even though people say, oh, you like that, 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.679 you don't like that to a certain extent, But I 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.559 think trajectory control is really important when you get to 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.320 the highest level and being able to control the distances 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.120 with your irons, and I really it really kind of 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:11.040 he was exposed. 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.240 I thought at Pasa Tiempo on his wedge play and 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.680 Passa Tiempo is a golf course that requires you know, 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:22.560 really really crazy good iron control and good approach play, 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.400 I mean exquisite approach play because of how the greens 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.480 are and yeah, you're hitting shorter irons in there, but 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.640 that should give you even more control of your ball. 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:32.360 And I just didn't see it out of justin that 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:33.959 that day that I watched him again, he didn't have 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:35.240 his best step by any stretch. 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.720 But I agree with that they make the ball flight. 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.319 I think the ball flight's a little too high. 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.960 It's the when the tour, you know, with the tour 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.960 is you know the pins are tucked and getting at those, 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.199 you know, just being able to hit it into the 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.400 right spots. And I mean it's like what Tiger says is, 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.720 you know he's always worried about missing at the right distance, 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:02.200 and I feel like, you know, going really good. These 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:06.160 guys are just hitting it within you know, a yard 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:11.080 of the number every time and that ties perfectly into trajectory. 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.640 Oh, without a doubt, That's why Jason did. I watched 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:18.400 Jason Dayer for eighteen holes out out at three a m. 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:22.280 And he was I had it was first round of golf. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.679 I've ever watched Jason on the ground where he didn't 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.880 take a full swing at an iron, first round of 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.120 golf I've ever seen him play. I'm like, he's serious 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.400 about this. Tiger's you know, William Steve has convinced him, 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.120 and maybe he's talked to Tiger and he's taking it 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:41.319 to heart because you know, in college, Tigers swung hard 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.000 at irons. But that was college. But when he turned 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.839 pro and started working with Butch on his game, that 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.920 guy hardly ever took aunt. He never took a hundred 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.520 percent swinging an iron and still does it. It's all 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.760 seven the full swings for him with an iron, seventy 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.120 five to eighty five percent. And every time I saw 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:01.080 Jason the first a well eight years on tour, even 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.440 when he won the PGA, it was if it was 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.640 in between two clubs, it was in between a nine 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.280 and eight, it was a full blown nine. I mean, 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.280 just back it up the ball in the stands and 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.880 just launch it if I have to, versus playing at 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:15.480 a ball, you know, in the middle of your stance 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.920 or a ball up in your stands and just feathering 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.200 a little fade in there with an eight if you 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.040 have to just take him little off. And I saw 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.400 a lot of that this week from from Jason, which 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.840 I thought was really cool. I mean, he was really 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.079 flighting the ball. Never seen him hit it as low 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.440 as he did this week. It was. It was really 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:32.079 cool to watch. 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:36.320 Actually, Day, is that the Steevie Day thing is something 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:39.320 to watch. I think like it would be it'd be 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:43.400 really fascinating to see if Day can kind of remake 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.280 you know, he had his like run, that eighteen month 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.439 run where maybe you know, best run for eighteen months 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:55.040 we've seen since Tiger, you know, and and then you 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.120 know he's kind of struggled last couple of years. 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:58.880 But like if he was able to. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.120 You know, fall down on you know, where he's spending 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.120 the teams and then get back up into that top 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:09.240 three four players in the world, you know, by you know, reinvent. 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:11.880 So few guys I feel like, once you get to 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.120 that elite level, are able to kind of reinvent their game. 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.840 Yeah, it's hard, It's really hard, and I think Jason's 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.760 going to find it very difficult, and he is going 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:26.840 to go He's going to go through some serious growing 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.360 pains with this, with this, with learning how to do 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:34.000 this at at you know what, I guess you'd consider 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.920 a later age learning how to play this way even 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:40.160 though he's still what does he he's still in his twenties, right, 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:44.160 late twenties, maybe he's thirty. I think he's twenty eight 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:49.280 or twenty nine, And you know, it's I don't know, 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.080 I think I think he can do it. It's just 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.760 how how much patience does he have to play like 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:57.320 the kind of the way he did at three m 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.480 this last week on a golf course Seemingly you would 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:05.200 think he would destroy with his game and just you know, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.440 barely makes the cut and then plays, you know, okay 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.679 on the weekend, not great by any stretch. You know, 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.480 how how much how much patience does he have for 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.920 that kind of golf and for how long? So you know, 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:22.480 if he has the wherewithal to stick with it, it's 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.560 I think it could pay great dividends, especially in the majors, 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:27.240 especially in the majors. 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.320 So with all these young guys and yeah, the success 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:35.640 I mean this this week was at at Minneso Minneapolis 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.600 was crazy with how young the leader board was. I mean, 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.360 you were is it Jason Day? So he's thirty one? 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:43.360 Is Jason Day thirty one? 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:43.800 There you go? 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.560 Is Jason Day a like what we would used to 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.600 consider like a thirty eight year old. 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.880 That's a good point. Yeah, it's like you, I guess 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:57.800 you could start looking at don't know and dog years 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:02.000 kind of compared to Yeah, I guys are learning at 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:05.760 at a younger earlier e clip because of you know, 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:07.320 I mean, I think for all the things that we've 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.800 all talked about on airic Golf Channel, you know, I 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.360 think you know, track Man plays a role in that 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:19.240 you're not sitting there hunting for something over the period 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.160 of two hundred or three hundred balls in four or 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.600 five hours. You're literally looking at a screen going, oh, 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.320 that's why I'm hitting it this way. You know, if 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.080 you understand track Man and you understand all the numbers 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.880 and permutations, I mean, you can figure it out swing 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.640 to swing. This is how I need what I need 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:40.440 to do to create a you know, you can turn 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.440 a number into a field, and that's what these guys 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.480 are so good at. They can turn that number into 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.560 a field and then just change their golf swing to 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.680 match up to what they want to see the ball flight, 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.080 and then double check okay, that's right. And literally you 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.760 can check your you can change it. You can fixcuse 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:56.920 me fix and change your golf swing or change your 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:02.040 golf sling in one or two swings now and then 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.400 and get confirmed, get it confirmed that you're doing what 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:10.280 you want to do. And then the other I think 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.960 a bigger factor than anything. I go back to my 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.800 junior day first play a cut off hand me down 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.720 set for my grandfather that didn't even fit me, and 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.600 I was trying to crnagle it and figure out how 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.400 to use it and say on and so forth. At thirteen, fourteen, 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.480 fifteen years old, so I finally got a decent set 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.760 of clubs that I still again weren't fit for me. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.520 They just right off the rack. These junior kids nowadays 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.840 are getting are they have access to the same thing 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:42.320 that we do as professionals. They have the same access 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:46.160 to the fitting and to the TrackMan numbers and getting 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.640 a skin rates right and the launch right and optimizing 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.520 their drivers and optimizing their irons and oh this is 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.520 the descent angle you need and your irons and this 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.160 is the apex you need at your speed to stop 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.080 the ball. I mean, they have all this at their 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.440 disposal and before you know it's boom, it's just plug 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.440 and play, man. And I think that's I think, in 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.119 all honesty, between those two things, those are the two 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.840 biggest things of why kids are so ready on the 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:16.800 PGA tour nowadays. You know, they just they they've got 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:20.080 the metrics. They know the metrics that they have to 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:24.240 have because they're out there and the data is there. 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:26.960 We didn't have this kind of data when I was 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.560 growing up. You know, you literally dug it out of 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:33.200 the dirt, and you you you played the game with 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.879 more feel, without a doubt, it's way more field than 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.720 you do. Now. There's a lot more science in the game. 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.680 But it's that science that's allowing younger kids who don't 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.000 have the experience of digging it out of the dirt 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.000 to get to the levels they are so quickly. The 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.000 science is helping them massively. 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.840 That's as I was thinking about this the other day, 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.800 and I think, like we're we're seeing like these way 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.120 people those like the young guns kind of common waves 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:05.080 like we had that J. T. Speathberger kind of run right, 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.680 and I think those are the guys that never hit. 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.200 They never hit so like Ricky was the guy. Ricky 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.840 in that group was the guys that had never hit 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.680 anything but a solid core ball. JT and Speith, those 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.120 guys are the guys that never hit a driver head 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:25.359 that wasn't four hundred and sixty ccs. And then now 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.120 these guys are the guys that never you know, never 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:30.920 took a lesson without track man. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:35.120 Without track man. Exactly right, exactly right. That's a great 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:39.199 way to look at it. It's just it's the progression 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:44.640 of the science of the game there, I don't I mean, 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.000 how many years did it take to go from wood 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.800 to steal and then how many years were we in 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:54.640 steel until we hit graphite? And then how many years 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.400 that wood shafts to steal shafts? And then how many 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.000 years were we in just steal shafts before the first 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.600 raphite chaff of invented? Yeah, and then how many years 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:06.800 were we with wooden heads for drivers and woods? I 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.080 think it was the metal head. 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.439 I think it was ninety three to ninety seven. 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.920 Was the transition for the wood to metal is from 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.680 what I can tell, Like the last per Simmons were 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.200 gone in ninety seven exactly. 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:23.120 But the first metal head early eighties, the original one 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:26.480 from Taylor made uh huh, So that was when it 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.560 first came out, when they when it was widely adopted. 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.400 You're right, it was probably the mid to late nineties 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.080 when everybody said, I've got to get rid of the wood. 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:38.879 It's just it's the per simon is it's a dinosaur. 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:43.600 It's it's you know, it's archaic now. So it so 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:48.440 in the last call it, geez, call it. Twenty five years, 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:53.800 we've seen the biggest technology jump, the biggest technology jump 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:57.760 in the history of the games, from graphite chafts to 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:01.680 head I mean look at I mean graphite chafts to heads, 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:06.320 to balls to everything, versus from ninth let's call let's 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.440 let's use nineteen ninety six or ninety seven as the 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:13.480 delineations of the mark. You know, the the that's the 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:18.040 market in years, going back all the way to Bobby 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:24.919 Jones era. You know, when they were using hickory shafts, 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.280 the golf ball and everything hadn't changed as much as 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.119 it has changed, and everything the game hasn't changed in 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:32.600 that period of time as much as it's changed in 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.520 the last twenty five years, you know it or twenty 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:39.120 that's what that twenty two years, right, I mean, that's 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.320 that's insanity. I mean, when you're really stopping that, I mean, 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.200 that's crazy in twenty two years. Look what has changed. Hell, 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:49.879 My driving distance in two thousand and three was I 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.160 want to say, two hundred and eighty five yards, which 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:56.119 was dead average on tour, dead average on tour average 0:20:56.200 --> 0:21:00.159 last year on tour was two ninety six. Yeah, and 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:02.359 that's with a PROV one X. That was the first 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:06.280 year three of the PROV one X. And now you 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:10.040 know now, guy, now it's two ninety six with virtually 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:14.000 the same ball. So what's that tell you? Shafts have 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:17.560 gotten better, drivers have gotten bet driver heads have gotten 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:21.480 massively better since that two thousand and three shit, since 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:27.000 twenty and ten, they've gotten massively, massively better. And yeah, 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.800 and guys have gotten stronger. Period. Those are the three 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.440 factors that I look at when I look at distance. 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:36.280 You know, I remember playing rock hard golf courses in 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:37.960 two thousand and three, So you can't sit there and 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.600 tell you, well, the courses are faster now, that's bs 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:42.919 courses were fast back when I played on tour in 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.280 two thousand and three, my rookie year. It's just that 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:51.280 the technology has gotten so crazy advanced in the last 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:55.000 fifteen to twenty five years that, you know, that's what 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.119 That's what I believe has allowed these young guys to 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:00.600 really flourish. Quite honestly, Yeah, you're good place, don't get 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.359 me wrong. But I would love to see. You know 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:04.120 what I would love to see. I'd love to see 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:08.400 a tournament with Ballotta everybody plays the same Ballota golf ball, 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:10.240 because pretty much that's what it was back in the 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:14.119 early to mid nineties. Everybody was playing relatively the same ball. 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:18.120