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Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast

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Speaker 1: build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Unbreakable, a mental wealth podcast with Jay Glazer.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jay Glazer, and look, the purpose of this podcast

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Speaker 2: is so we could build your mental health to lead

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Speaker 2: you to mental wealth. And we want people to come

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Speaker 2: on here and inspire us, build us up behind the ribcage,

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Speaker 2: build us up between the ears, and we really want

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Speaker 2: to become dynamic.

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Speaker 3: I'm ma, haha. What can we get on and help

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Speaker 3: us become dynamic? I know it.

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Speaker 2: Molly Fletcher, former sports AGENCYNN, actually called there the female

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Speaker 2: Jerey maguire, even though I would look at it more

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Speaker 2: like Jerey McGuire is the male Molly Fletcher. They used

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Speaker 2: to be a sports agent and is now a motivational speaker.

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Speaker 3: It's just come out with their sixth book, Dynamic Drive.

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Speaker 2: But we have obviously crossed our career paths quite a bit,

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Speaker 2: and now you're doing something I love also, which is

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Speaker 2: inspiring the world.

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Speaker 3: So welcome aboard.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Jay, it is a treat to be with you.

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Speaker 4: This is super fun.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it, all right.

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Speaker 2: So you're an agent for a long time, right, and

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Speaker 2: you represent a lot of broadcasters. Also, what got you

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Speaker 2: to sit there and go, Man, these people are driving

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Speaker 2: me crazy.

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Speaker 3: I'm representing, so I'm going to leave that and go

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Speaker 3: start and inspiring the world. What did you learn from

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Speaker 3: us that got you go, I'm going to go inspire

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Speaker 3: the world.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's funny, Jay, how things happen in life, right.

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Speaker 4: And I think if you, if you follow your part

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Speaker 4: and you work to close a gap in the market,

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Speaker 4: and you and you truly were to serve people, I

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Speaker 4: think you unlock things through that sort of curiosity. And

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Speaker 4: so for me, it started g I was in my

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Speaker 4: office and all these kids I was recruiting athletes and

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Speaker 4: coaches and broadcasters, and I'm in my office and all

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Speaker 4: these kids would call because they wanted to be sports agents.

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Speaker 4: And this was when I was in my late twenties.

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Speaker 4: And I would talk to these kids and I would

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Speaker 4: meet with these kids. And one day, Jay, my boss,

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Speaker 4: walks by my office and this young kid who was

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Speaker 4: a sports management major at Georgia or something, and he's like, Oh, man,

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Speaker 4: who's that kid is. He looks like he's a pitcher

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Speaker 4: or what. And I was like, oh, he's just a

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Speaker 4: great young kid. He's trying to get in the sports

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Speaker 4: space and just trying to help him. And that happens

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Speaker 4: like two or three times, and my boss comes by

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Speaker 4: and goes, look, I appreciate you trying to help all

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Speaker 4: these people, but like, that's not what I'm paying you

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Speaker 4: to do. Girl. So end of the day, I decided

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Speaker 4: the things the ways that I was recruiting athletes wasn't

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Speaker 4: too dissimilar to the way that you find tough jobs

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Speaker 4: in the world. And so I just authentically started to

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Speaker 4: write down a formula to help these kids because I

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Speaker 4: couldn't meet with them.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: And then that book did kind of well. And then

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Speaker 4: and then you know, fast forward and I'm well, was

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Speaker 4: the name of that book your Dream Job game Plan?

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Speaker 4: And the truth is Jay right, Like that book was

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Speaker 4: written before LinkedIn before, but it has a lot of

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Speaker 4: fundamental nuggets in it. And then and then Jay, I'm

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Speaker 4: like running around with Ernie Johnson and Doc Rivers and

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Speaker 4: Smolton Is and all these guys and gals, and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: these guys are all alike, like they wired this same

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Speaker 4: right the way we behave. Their ability to navigate change challenges, opportunities,

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Speaker 4: their view of challenges as really opportunities, their their level

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Speaker 3: They're not afraid to change, where a lot of people

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Speaker 3: are one.

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Speaker 4: Hundred percent not at all. I mean not at all.

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Speaker 4: I speak about one hundred days a year, Jay. And

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Speaker 4: one of the things that I often tell is a

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Speaker 4: story about one of my guys, John Smalts, who went

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Speaker 4: I do think there was there was something at hand

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Speaker 4: And so after a few books came out, companies starts saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: you write a book and people think you, you know,

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Speaker 4: know a little something. And I did, And it's so

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Speaker 4: rewarding and fulfilling to inspire people and to share stories

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Speaker 4: we get older in life, we pull back and say,

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Speaker 4: And at that point it's like, do I want to

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Speaker 4: be a better version of themselves, millions and millions of people.

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Speaker 4: And so that, at some level is what it was.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't Jay that I was like, man, I can't

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Speaker 4: stand these It was very hard. I mean, these guys

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Speaker 4: and gals were at my wedding, they were there when

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Speaker 4: it was me, what is your go to?

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Speaker 2: I guess what is the most important thing when you're recruiting?

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Speaker 3: It comes sign with you. What did you think of

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Speaker 4: Asset relationships with teams, with networks, with manufacturing reps relationships.

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Speaker 4: And I think the ability to look at an eighteen

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Speaker 4: Scheffler's need right now. So the ability to stay beside

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Speaker 4: So I wanted to really ladder up those uniquenesses, if

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Speaker 4: believe that ten percent of my job was negotiating their deals,

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Speaker 4: I mean you wanted to It's a business that's twenty

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Speaker 4: to work with good people?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean look the authenticity also for an agent.

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Speaker 3: Look for me.

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Speaker 2: I signed with my guy Mary Gosfriend in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 2: Bigger and grown, gotten bigger and grown, got bigger and grown,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, this dude was there with me at start,

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Speaker 2: Don't just talk to your guys when they're the hot hand, right.

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Speaker 2: You never know when the guy who's making ninety four

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Speaker 3: Put in the same.

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Speaker 4: Effort for all absolutely, And you know, I I think

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Speaker 4: that's so transferable in life. I mean, I signed Jay.

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Speaker 4: So many athletes when they were sent down to the

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Speaker 4: things that I believe is when you show up for

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Speaker 4: the opportunity inside of it for both of you, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. You know, when I was starting off as

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Speaker 2: Room is pretty interesting because there's like a pac mentality,

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Speaker 2: to go with things where it's not the I'm going

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Speaker 2: And there's been guys who am still close friends with

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Speaker 2: thirty three years later. Never give me a single scoop.

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Speaker 2: But I've never done anything. But it's these relationships. Now

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Speaker 2: a lot of them have, But that's what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Those relationships are everything. I think, especially this generation, these

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Speaker 2: it's a it's a long, long, long haul.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you have to be relational versus transactional.

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Speaker 4: And I think we live in a world where it

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Speaker 4: gets easy, doesn't It gets easy to want to just

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Speaker 4: keep that front and center and pull back off and

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Speaker 4: say and that, really, Jay, for me, was a result

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Speaker 4: sometimes of moving too quickly and missing the difficult questions

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Speaker 4: or in recruiting a player. And we have to pull

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Speaker 4: And that's authentic, as you said, But that's building the

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Speaker 4: relationship in service of the truth, is aligning on expectations

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Speaker 4: for the right reasons. The world's smart today. People are smart.

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Speaker 4: They can there's a good BS meter out there. Now.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're telling people just what they want to hear,

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Speaker 4: And they can all be tense, Jay if they are,

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Speaker 4: those things that are most important? Rank them relatives they

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Speaker 4: amount of time and attention and energy, and then sort

443
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Speaker 4: of rank them again on the amount of time and

444
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Speaker 4: attention you're giving. Those things that you got clear in

445
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Speaker 4: fact matter most. And so you know, if you and

446
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Speaker 4: I were working together, let's say on something to this effect,

447
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Speaker 4: I'd say, okay, wow, you know we got a little bit.

448
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Speaker 4: We got a two gap on faith? What could be

449
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Speaker 4: the opportunity to make some adjustments there physically, mentally, emotionally,

450
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Speaker 4: relationally with faith. And then you know, when we think

451
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Speaker 4: about service, there's a big gap there. And you sort

452
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Speaker 4: of chatted about it, right, So what is the opportunity

453
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Speaker 4: there relative to prioritizing what clearly is really important but

454
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Speaker 4: it has a gap for you? Now, what would be

455
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Speaker 4: the behaviors that the things mentally physically that you could

456
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Speaker 4: go do relative to that?

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Speaker 2: So you know what I could probably I was supposed

458
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Speaker 2: to have a bunch of zooms, okay with some members

459
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Speaker 2: of my team to brainstorm about our next charity that

460
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Speaker 2: we want to start, and I just haven't done it.

461
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Speaker 3: So maybe I got to take the lead on that. Yep,

462
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Speaker 3: it's good.

463
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Speaker 2: I like it.

464
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Speaker 4: Yeah, good, And so that would be yes, exactly, that's awesome.

465
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Speaker 4: And then I would just challenge you to consider more like,

466
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Speaker 4: is there something else? Is that the primary thing? What's

467
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Speaker 4: the one next right step to take to make that

468
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Speaker 4: the priority that in fact you already know is a

469
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Speaker 4: huge priority for you. And then is there something I mean,

470
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Speaker 4: your you know, you and I and so many of

471
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Speaker 4: the people that listen to your podcast, they want tens

472
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Speaker 4: to match tens right, Like, we're not happy when we

473
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Speaker 4: got a ten and a five and a ten and

474
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Speaker 4: a six. I mean we want to close that gap.

475
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Speaker 4: And so at the most fundamental level, the intention here

476
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Speaker 4: is to say, how do I then begin to take

477
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Speaker 4: the next right step and closing a gap? And this

478
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Speaker 4: is in part today because part of the reason I

479
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Speaker 4: wrote Dynamic Drive is it breaks my heart when I

480
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Speaker 4: see people hammering so hard in life and then they

481
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Speaker 4: get maybe too later in their life, the end of

482
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Speaker 4: their life, and you ask them what are you chasing? Like?

483
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Speaker 4: What was it all for?

484
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Speaker 3: Right?

485
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Speaker 4: And unless you're clearly aligning your daily behaviors and your

486
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Speaker 4: pursuit and your energy with what matters most to you,

487
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Speaker 4: the world and everybody else will prioritize everything for you

488
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Speaker 4: if you don't do it yourself. And unfortunately we live

489
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Speaker 4: in a world it's moving quickly, and if we don't

490
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Speaker 4: get intentional, we miss things and then we live with regret.

491
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Speaker 4: And that was part of the intention here, is people

492
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Speaker 4: go after things in life. And I think the difference

493
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Speaker 4: with Dynamic Drive is we have to have this threat

494
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Speaker 4: of purpose through it. We have to have our values

495
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Speaker 4: through it, right, because otherwise we're our ladders, leaning up

496
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Speaker 4: against this nebulous wall that isn't taking us where we

497
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Speaker 4: really want to go, because you and.

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Speaker 3: I both know, yes, but it's not for the purpose

499
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Speaker 3: that we want to.

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Speaker 4: And you know, achievement, you know, it makes you feel

501
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Speaker 4: good for a couple hours a day, you know, the

502
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Speaker 4: big contract, the fancy car, the new house. It's fine

503
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Speaker 4: for a hot second, but it is not something that's sustainable.

504
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Speaker 4: And I've just seen too many people chase achievement. Be

505
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Speaker 4: at the top of the mountain, go well, this is

506
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Speaker 4: a bus kill. And that is, in fact, really why

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Speaker 4: I feel there needs to be a new definition of drive,

508
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Speaker 4: which is, to me, dynamic drive, which is laced with purpose.

509
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Speaker 4: It still has a tremendous amount of urgency. It's goal

510
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Speaker 4: centered and you achieve a ton, but that isn't the focus.

511
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Speaker 4: The focus is the pursuit of better.

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Speaker 2: I know in this book and we talk about drive,

513
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Speaker 2: your new definition drive, you have seven keys to unlocking

514
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Speaker 2: the dynamic drive.

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Speaker 4: You take us through those absolutely. I mean, and you

516
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Speaker 4: know when we think about unlocking dynamic drive, I mean

517
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Speaker 4: the anticipit this, the anticip this geez, I can't say

518
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Speaker 4: that word.

519
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it.

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Speaker 4: The opposite. I'm gonna go with that. The opposite of

521
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Speaker 4: it is complacency. And to me, people can drift into

522
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Speaker 4: complacency unintentionally often and they find themselves in this place

523
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Speaker 4: where they feel stuck. And dynamic drive keeps complacency keeps

524
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Speaker 4: burnout at bay because it doesn't it can't take root

525
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Speaker 4: in us because we're constantly pursuing a better version of

526
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Speaker 4: ourselves every single day, so there's no space for it.

527
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Speaker 4: So there's three stages. It's it's first we have to

528
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Speaker 4: do in gauge with our mindset and with energy, getting

529
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Speaker 4: clear on that obstacles or opportunities that change creates chances,

530
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 4: that curiosity can create, choices and who and what we

531
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Speaker 4: give our energy to a little of that alignment stuff

532
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Speaker 4: that we just touched on. And then we have to

533
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Speaker 4: sustain our drive, which is anchored in things like discipline. Curiosity,

534
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Speaker 4: resilience are imperative to our ability to sustain dynamic drive

535
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Speaker 4: because we know that when we push ourselves jay it

536
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Speaker 4: means we're going to have to do things that maybe

537
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Speaker 4: we don't want to do right now, but it's taking

538
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Speaker 4: us to where we want most. Right We're going to

539
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Speaker 4: have to be curious about things that maybe we could

540
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Speaker 4: do better like we just did, for example, and curious

541
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Speaker 4: about the outside world. And I saw that with great coaches.

542
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Speaker 4: I mean they win a national championship and their next

543
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Speaker 4: day they're on the phone recruiting a kid, right, I

544
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 4: mean Scotti Schefler went to the Masters and he's in

545
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Speaker 4: the next tournament the following week. I mean they want

546
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Speaker 4: to get better and they're curious about the behaviors that

547
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 4: will take them there. And then we know when we

548
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 4: push ourselves it isn't always going to work right, and

549
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 4: that's okay. Failures feedback, no, is just feedback. So we

550
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Speaker 4: have to build our resilience muscle in the sustaining phase,

551
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Speaker 4: and then we have to maximize our dynamic drive, which

552
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 4: we do through relationships and through connection, and confidence is built.

553
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Speaker 4: As we get through these stages of dynamic drive, we

554
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Speaker 4: inherently establish a level of confidence that exudes possibility and

555
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: choices candidly for us in our life. So those are

556
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Speaker 4: just I mean super high level, the sort of the

557
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Speaker 4: three stages. And the truth is jay because it's dynamic,

558
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Speaker 4: and because we live a life that's dynamic, and we

559
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 4: live in a world that's dynamic and ever changing. It's

560
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 4: not an A to B, B two C C to

561
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Speaker 4: D process. Right Like, there's going to be days where

562
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Speaker 4: I mean you might pull back and say, you know,

563
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Speaker 4: relative to my gap and service, I have the right

564
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Speaker 4: mindset around it. I'm not probably putting the energy toward it.

565
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 4: I'm definitely curious about what's possible. I probably though, am

566
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Speaker 4: lacking a little discipline because I've got to take the

567
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 4: next right step relative to that. I'm confident that I

568
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 4: can make an impact. I need other people. So if

569
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Speaker 4: I was to look at your gap relative to service,

570
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Speaker 4: I'd say, we got you know, we got a little

571
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Speaker 4: energy gap, we got a little discipline gap. Right, We've

572
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 4: got a connection gap because we're going to need help.

573
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 4: You're confident about it. You're there. So, in other words,

574
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Speaker 4: dynamic drive isn't this straight linear process. We can loop

575
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Speaker 4: back in and grab stages of it to re unlock

576
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Speaker 4: us on our journey to closing a gap that matters

577
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 4: to us.

578
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Speaker 3: I love that. I love that.

579
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Speaker 2: I'm definitely gonna take it hard. Actually call my guy

580
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 2: today about it because it's something that that gnaws at me.

581
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: I'm okay, and we've all talked about and then we've

582
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: all we've all thrown ideas and they haven't been anything

583
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: that's so different. Or I want mine to make an

584
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: impact where you're like, wow, this is so simple, it's

585
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 2: brilliant and people immediately and that's my currency.

586
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: When I'm able to use.

587
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: With God blessed me with to help out the rest

588
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: of the world, that's when I feel like everything's right

589
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: in my world and the room makes my head talk

590
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 2: nicely to each other.

591
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 4: Their roommates in your head. That's so good.

592
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: This has been great. I really I've enjoyed this. I

593
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: got a couple more for you. We talked about dynamic drive, Well,

594
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 2: what drives you?

595
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 4: My purpose statement is to inspire, lead, and connect with

596
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 4: courage and optimism, and so what that means is not

597
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 4: too dissimilar to you, Jay. I mean, I'm inspired to

598
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 4: make an impact. I'm inspired to whether it's the checkout

599
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 4: counter lady at the grocery store, the mailman, a person

600
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 4: I walk by, the people and the teams that I lead.

601
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 4: I believe that we have an opportunity every day to

602
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 4: make an impact on others, and that our ability to

603
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 4: do that is in fact, really our purpose. I think

604
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: most of our purpose isn't about us and what we

605
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 4: can achieve, and that's why I think this book is

606
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 4: so important, but rather about the impact that our pursuit

607
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: of better every day can have on other people's lives,

608
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 4: so that they too can live into the legacy that

609
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 4: they want to leave, so that they can live into

610
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 4: their purpose, so that they have You know, I always say,

611
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 4: who do you want at your ninetieth birthday party? Man? Like,

612
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: we have to behave in a way that ladders up

613
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 4: to that. And so what drives me is making other

614
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 4: people's lives better. And of course you know, for me, Jay,

615
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 4: that starts with my husband of twenty five years, my

616
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 4: three daughters that I had in twelve months. You have twins, right,

617
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 4: we have twins. We have twins identical, they're fraternal. They're fraternal,

618
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 4: So I twin.

619
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Speaker 3: It's hilarious, you did.

620
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, my life, good man.

621
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: My life is hilarious.

622
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: Actually, just today I posted something because her sister showed up.

623
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: And this happens all the time. They don't talk about it.

624
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: She showed up in the exact same outfit of my wife,

625
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: exact without without talking. It happened for us eight times

626
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: a month, like to that hilarious.

627
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so good. Yeah, so you know, and so

628
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 4: our twins are fraternal and then we had one and

629
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: then twelve months later I had twins. So you know,

630
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: my purpose starts there with my family and then my

631
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 4: extended family of family and my team that I work with,

632
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: and my ability to make an impact through what I

633
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 4: feel super blessed to have been given, which was this

634
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: journey in the sports space. I was a deep you know,

635
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 4: I played tennis at Michigan State and then was able

636
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 4: to extend that into the sports space as an agent

637
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: and now in the world that I'm in. So you know,

638
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 4: if I can I speak about one hundred days a year,

639
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 4: Jay and my podcast which you've been on, which was awesome,

640
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: if we can leave people with a NuGet or two

641
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: something that they can pull back and say, you know what,

642
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 4: where and for me with this book where am I

643
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 4: playing small? And my life? Right? Where am I playing

644
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 4: small in my life? And then saying what's at risk

645
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 4: to make a change, what's at risk to make a change,

646
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 4: and what's at risk if I don't make a change?

647
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: Love it?

648
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 4: And am I willing to take that risk?

649
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: I love that.

650
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: What's the risk of making a change. What's the risk

651
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: if I don't make the change? Folks, If there's anything

652
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: you're getting from this today, make sure you get that.

653
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: I love that, really love that. Last two questions. You've

654
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: been around sports for a long time. What's your best moment?

655
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: I know, min I've been asked it a few times

656
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: of just being around it, like, oh my god, this

657
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: most unbelievable thing I've ever seen or been. What is

658
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: that moment for you? You've been around sports, it takes

659
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Speaker 2: the kick wow, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean Jay like you, I've been really blessed. I think, boy,

661
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Speaker 4: oh boy, that's such a good one. I would say

662
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Speaker 4: it was when I was on the range at the

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Speaker 4: Masters with one of my players who was warming up,

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Speaker 4: and I looked over and I saw Butch Harmon, who

665
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Speaker 4: I didn't know, but he was behind Tiger's bag at

666
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Speaker 4: the time. And you know, when you're standing with Butch

667
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Speaker 4: Harmon behind Tiger's bag having a conversation about a lot

668
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Speaker 4: of the things that are in this book, resilience all

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Speaker 4: these things because Tiger was good and man, I mean

670
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: those those kinds of moments walking inside the ropes with

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Speaker 4: players in practice rounds where you're watching the way they

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Speaker 4: play the goal of course, the way they prepare, the

673
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 4: way they anticipate those are you know. And then and

674
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 4: then the moments you know, with with Smoltzy calling me

675
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: on the way to the yard, or in knowing the

676
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: amount of things that are happening in his life that

677
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 4: could be remarkably distracting to most people, and then he

678
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 4: steps out on the mound that night and throws seven

679
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 4: scoreless And you're like, bro, if everybody knew what you

680
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 4: had going on and you just did that, But the

681
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: truth is, like you, I mean, it was a guy

682
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Speaker 4: that we had. He needed eleven more days in the

683
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Speaker 4: big leagues to get his pension for the rest of

684
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Speaker 4: his life, and we got the Marlins to put him

685
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 4: on a roster for eleven days and he got his

686
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 4: pension forever. So it is never about anything other than learning,

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Speaker 4: making an impact and changing, be it myself or the

688
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Speaker 4: people that I worked with through the moments where you

689
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 4: just learn and listen as much as I represented my

690
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 4: athletes and coaches and boy, you know, you're you have

691
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Speaker 4: a front row seat to people performance. I mean, it's

692
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 4: a court side seat, man, It's it's sauceome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my tour obviously Jimmy Johnson getting told on our

694
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: era that he's going in the Hall of Fame. But

695
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: we did the Super Bowl one year, Falcons Patriots, and

696
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: to be standing next to Howie Long the Patriots come

697
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: back and win. To see how his reaction that his

698
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 2: son won the Super Bowl, that's my moment of it

699
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: was fun. And how he is my brother, how he

700
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: is who I've learned how to be a dad from.

701
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Speaker 2: Howie and I are both fucked up in the same

702
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: way as you know, we got this beast we try

703
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: and keep in the box. Howie was the guy who

704
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: would realize on the mornings where the sky was falling

705
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: for me and I was just man, my between my

706
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: ears was caving in before I ever came out, you know,

707
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: told the world got my depression anxiety. He was the

708
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: one who recognized it, and I think beasts recognized peace.

709
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: And he was like, hey, the sky's not falling today. Hate,

710
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 2: nobody's against you. The world doesn't hate you, the universe

711
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: isn't against you.

712
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Speaker 3: No, Like I would go.

713
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: Down these rap holes years before I ever said anything,

714
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: So he recognized before. So to see my brother have

715
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Speaker 2: that kind of joy was oh fuck. It was everything,

716
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: all right, last question for it. That's cool, man, Give

717
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: me your own breakable moment, the moment that should have

718
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: broken you could have and didn't, and as a result,

719
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: you came through the other side of that.

720
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Speaker 3: Tunnel stronger, forever, more dynamic, forever. There you go.

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Speaker 4: You know, Jay, this is something I don't talk about

722
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: a lot, but it was. My daughter was My twins

723
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 4: were six and our oldest daughter was seven, and we

724
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Speaker 4: were at a Big league baseball game. And it was

725
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Speaker 4: the bottom of the sixth inning and a line drive

726
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Speaker 4: hit my six year old daughter in the head.

727
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Speaker 3: Whoa.

728
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Speaker 4: And we were right behind the visitor dug out and

729
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 4: you know my players. I had a player on both

730
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Speaker 4: clubs coming in and tipping their hat to my girls.

731
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Speaker 4: I mean, we were having a big time six inning.

732
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Speaker 4: Man one hundred and ten mile plus follow the ball.

733
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Speaker 4: You couldn't even I mean chip er set or one

734
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Speaker 4: of the I couldn't have made the play. And uh

735
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Speaker 4: it hit her in the front right side of her head,

736
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Speaker 4: six years old, and I could it was. We didn't

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Speaker 4: even see it coming. My husband was there and rushed

738
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Speaker 4: her to the hospital, you know, depressed skull phone fragment

739
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Speaker 4: all throughout her brain emergency brain surgery, and the doc

740
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Speaker 4: came in and said, look, this isn't good. I mean,

741
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Speaker 4: you can't get hit.

742
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Speaker 2: He was.

743
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Speaker 4: She was in surgery for six hours. At six am,

744
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 4: she comes out gauze all around her head, her head

745
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 4: shaved because they had and uh, man, I mean you

746
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 4: you know the love you have for your kids. I mean, man,

747
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I am so into as any parent

748
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Speaker 4: listening knows. And it was the scariest moment of my

749
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Speaker 4: life by far, and my husband's and and you know,

750
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 4: one day after another, the doc would come in and say, look,

751
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 4: it's gonna swell. Guys, I mean she's going to be

752
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: it's not good. And every day right like, and I'd

753
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 4: kept standing outside the dock at the door, and a

754
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 4: dock would come in and I'm like, I don't think

755
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 4: it's swollen, and he's like, oh, you know. And it

756
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 4: was so scary, and I you know, it doesn't fall

757
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 4: short on me that the sports agent's daughter gets hit

758
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: in the head with a baseball at it at a

759
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Speaker 4: baseball game. And but she's recovered remarkably and as a

760
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: young woman who is thriving in the world. But it's

761
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 4: it's like these moments that happen in our lives that

762
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 4: make us pull back and question and ask ourselves the

763
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 4: tough questions, what am I chasing? What's it all for?

764
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Speaker 4: Are there things that I should be doing differently? Choices

765
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 4: I should be making differently? What are my deepest priorities?

766
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Speaker 4: I mean, when you face losing a child, I don't

767
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 4: know if there's anything more scary than that. And that

768
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 4: was definitely an unbreakable moment for me that you know,

769
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Speaker 4: I live with every day because I see her scars

770
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 4: every day. So that was an unbreakable moment, and I.

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Speaker 2: Hope she sees it as as she gets older, Like

772
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: our scars are that's our currency.

773
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: That's what makes us.

774
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, what what didn't break us is what makes

775
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: us so beautiful and powerful and successful.

776
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: And that's what life is about. It's easy to go

777
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: navigate the easy times and by getting that, you don't

778
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: need books for that, right, But.

779
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: It's getting through these things, but our scars that's our everything.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you sharing that with us.

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Speaker 4: I really do no thank you, Jay, I mean it's

782
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 4: it's it's a lot to unpack and listen. Thanks for

783
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 4: the work that you do. It isn't It really is

784
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 4: an honor and a pleasure to be on your show.

785
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate it so much. Make sure you all

786
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: get dynamic drive.

787
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Speaker 3: Mally Fletcher. Appreciate you being my teammate.

788
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 4: Thanks for being mine, Man, appreciate you