WEBVTT - Draft Show: Anything Can Happen

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<v Speaker 1>He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war

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<v Speaker 1>room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep within

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<v Speaker 1>the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco,

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys like Ted Lamb and now your hosts Dane Brugler,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner and Kyle Humans. It's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>new Thursday edition of the Draft Show from our virtual

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<v Speaker 1>s WBC Mortgage Studios. Chris Beam running things at the

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<v Speaker 1>mothership back at the Star in Frisco. But we are

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<v Speaker 1>ready to break down one what has been really kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a crazy twelve hours for the NFL. As Urban

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<v Speaker 1>Meyer is back in the Fray as a head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>as he's going or at least finalizing a deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the Jacksonville Jaguars, who by the way, have the first

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<v Speaker 1>pick in the NFL Draft. Then Kelvin Moore apparently being

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<v Speaker 1>requested for an interview for the Philadelphia Eagles, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>apparently broadcasting from the mountains now, which is something that

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<v Speaker 1>is different for all of us. But hey, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>official draft season and anything can happen, so we are

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<v Speaker 1>glad to be with you here on the Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com Draft Show, Kyle Yeoman's, Dane Brugler, Jeff Kavanaugh,

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<v Speaker 1>and Kevin kat Turner with you as always this crew

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<v Speaker 1>every Thursday at ten am. But Dane, it really has

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<v Speaker 1>been a crazy couple of hours throughout the NFL and

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<v Speaker 1>really the college football season now in the rearview mirror.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy to think about. But hey, it's draft season officially.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've been in draft season for quite some time,

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<v Speaker 1>we all have been, but officially for everyone, it's draft

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<v Speaker 1>season at this point with college football season now being

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<v Speaker 1>over with. Yeah, and it's an interesting point in the

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<v Speaker 1>year because there's a lot of hirings and firings going

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<v Speaker 1>on type of thing that will shape how Draft weekend

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<v Speaker 1>plays out. You know, both with the Cowboys and around

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. You know these whether it's assistant coaches, head coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the new faces, the new names. That plays

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<v Speaker 1>a part in how the draft will play out. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's certainly something to pay attention to. Where only what

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<v Speaker 1>a week and a half away from the Senior Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know what's gonna happen with the combine, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's still a lot up in the air with what

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<v Speaker 1>this draft season is going to look like. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to make that more challenging, but all the more

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<v Speaker 1>reason to kind of talk through it on this platform

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of have fun with it. Jeff, are you excited?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a little extra excitement whenever it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that hey, there's you're kind of getting closer

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<v Speaker 1>to these big events like the Senior Bowl. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>the combines a bit on the horizon still, but is

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<v Speaker 1>there a little added emphasis and maybe even anxiousness for

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<v Speaker 1>you as a guy who covers the draft, but also

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even a little bit for these front offices. I Mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this year is just so much different. Like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know. I don't know what the Senior Bowl is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look like. We don't know if they're just going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a line or what that's gonna look like.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's always it's always fun. It's always exciting

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<v Speaker 1>to get closer to it because I think the Senior

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl it can be so important to players in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of if you're a small school guy and what you

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<v Speaker 1>can prove to NFL teams, or if you're considered a

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<v Speaker 1>third day of the draft guy and you're going up

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<v Speaker 1>against guys who are considered better than that and you

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<v Speaker 1>kick their butt all week. I always I love the

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl. The Combine's great, but I love the Senior

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl because I think guys can make money at the

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl. So I'm excited about that. Katie, you got

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<v Speaker 1>that anxiousness too a little bit with a crazy offseason

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<v Speaker 1>like this. You know, for me, I think it's more

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<v Speaker 1>in the realm of you know, draft season's always pretty

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<v Speaker 1>hot and heavy. It's it's when someone like a national

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<v Speaker 1>pundit like Dane Brugler ignores the no fireworks sign and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know what, here's some snakes and sparklers

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<v Speaker 1>and black cats. Here's my mock draft too. Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>all you need is that's enough to get you to

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<v Speaker 1>get you going and get your juice's phone a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So ye see it. You can't stop looking at it

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking about how you might do it, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing mock draft simulators online and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's to me where it kind of I get more

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<v Speaker 1>anxious for that. I guess I would say I'm more

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<v Speaker 1>of a day to day guy. Then what event is

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen in February? Because I don't know that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good point, and really that's probably the best way

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<v Speaker 1>to go about it. Right now in this offseason, it's

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<v Speaker 1>day to day whenever it comes to the draft process.

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<v Speaker 1>But you mentioned Dane's mock draft. We're gonna get to

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<v Speaker 1>that coming up here in a little bit. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how Dane's mock draft on the Athletic You

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<v Speaker 1>should go and read it, look through all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Really fantastic work from Dan as always, but it did

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<v Speaker 1>provide a little bit of a spark and something that

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting, especially for the Cowboys. And we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it in the moment, But I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the rumors surrounding kell and Moore, since we

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<v Speaker 1>are the first show for Dallas Cowboys dot Com that

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<v Speaker 1>has been on air since at least These rumors surfaced

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour and a half before we went live here.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jeff, when it comes to the Cowboys and Kellen Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a guy that last week or

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks ago we were talking about maybe taking the

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<v Speaker 1>Boise State job. He elects to stay here, gets an extension,

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<v Speaker 1>a big extension at that, and now he's apparently being rumored.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're Kellen Moore, One do you go an interview

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<v Speaker 1>for the job? And two what should you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a Cowboys fan? Right now? I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>only so many opportunities to be a head coach in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, So if Kellen Moore has an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>interview for it, I would go take it. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that one the Eagles would actually offer their head

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<v Speaker 1>coaching job to somebody who would be a first time

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<v Speaker 1>head coach that's still kind of young as a coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't imagine that they would actually offer him the job.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I believe to myself and I was Kellen Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want that job either, because I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles opening is an absolute train wreck right now between

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<v Speaker 1>where they are with the cap all they're old guys

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<v Speaker 1>on that roster that are locked in for years, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't that you don't know who your quarterback is

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<v Speaker 1>or you're just hoping that Carson Wentz can become a

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<v Speaker 1>good quarterback again. So I think one the Eagles, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be shocked if they didn't offer their job to somebody

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<v Speaker 1>with head coach experience or at least more coordinator experience.

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<v Speaker 1>And two, if I'm Kellen Moore, I don't want that

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<v Speaker 1>job because I think it's a setup. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna go well. Catsey, Yeah no, No, there's two

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<v Speaker 1>answers because the important thing in the story is requested permission.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's two answers that the Jones family has. Number

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<v Speaker 1>one is nah, we're good, and then number two is

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<v Speaker 1>do you think Kellen we could send you on this

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<v Speaker 1>mission and you could find the deep dark secrets inside

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<v Speaker 1>the Philadelphia facility? Can you find out what Roseman and

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<v Speaker 1>Lurie are up to? It's more of that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you send Kellen, you just don't let him have

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<v Speaker 1>that interview. He signed the contracts, so he's got to

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<v Speaker 1>get permission, you know, unless you want to look like

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<v Speaker 1>a good guy, say go chase your dreams and get

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<v Speaker 1>the job. But I feel like I feel like this

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<v Speaker 1>is it was a very odd thing to just come

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<v Speaker 1>up out of nowhere. I will say this though, Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>might just be the team. It's like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>there's enough, there's an enough steam, smoke and steam around uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Kellen Moore, and in his future as a coach,

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<v Speaker 1>they might I think they might offer him the job

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<v Speaker 1>if they've got him in for an interview. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he's their number one candidate, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's it's crazy to think that. But the answer

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<v Speaker 1>if you're the Cowboys is no, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>interview for that job. Would just sign you do a deal? Dude? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>since it's a head coaching job, it can't Kellen Moore

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<v Speaker 1>go on his own or is that a flip flop

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<v Speaker 1>if you are a head coach. I don't know the rules. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think if they can't stop him. Yeah, coaching

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<v Speaker 1>job if it's a promotion like that. But and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're killing Moore, it's a good experience go in the interview.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I think if you're the Eagles, it makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense because you've seen what that offense has done with

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott. Uh, you know, you know, Jalen Hurts might

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<v Speaker 1>be your future. There's some parallels there with those two quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you know, you can can learn some a few

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<v Speaker 1>things and so it's an interesting you know inner division, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, relationship that is. I think, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're Kellen Moore, you have to take you have to

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<v Speaker 1>go on that interview. I think it's good experience and

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<v Speaker 1>if you're the Eagles, you can get some information, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's an interesting dynamic. Yeah, I ended up the last

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<v Speaker 1>two minutes of what I said, and that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>did the draft. I don't know the coaching rules. That's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how we roll here. But I think it is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, hey, maybe they're trying to steal Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 1>Not just hey, it's a thing about Jalen Hurts and

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<v Speaker 1>how he does line up with Dak Prescott. Maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to steal Dak. Who knows. We'll see how that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of ends up rolling. But I don't think it'll

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately turn into much. But I wouldn't be against Kellen

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<v Speaker 1>Moore at least going and interviewing. That's great experience and

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who, like you said, Jeff, initially, there's only

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<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of head coaching jobs and opportunities to

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<v Speaker 1>be a head coach. Why not take at least a

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<v Speaker 1>shot at one of them. Now, let's get into that

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<v Speaker 1>two round mock draft that Dane put out on the

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<v Speaker 1>Athletic CoA check it out as always, but starting things off,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go through kind of the top nine and

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<v Speaker 1>talk through some of the highlights early on three quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>in the first four picks. Right up at the top,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Trevor Lawrence going number one overall to Clemson

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<v Speaker 1>or excuse me, to Jacksonville out of Clemson. Then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the Jets taking Zach Wilson, the quarterback out of BYU.

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<v Speaker 1>DeVante Smith is the first wide receiver and non quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>off the board. He goes to the Miami Dolphins at three.

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<v Speaker 1>Fields from Ohio State goes to the Falcons, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it goes sewel Jamar Chase to the Eagles at six,

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<v Speaker 1>Micah Parsons to the Lyons at seven. Carolina takes Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Lance the fourth quarterback off the board, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>Denver Broncos steel Klea Farley at nine, right before the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys go at ten. But Dane, I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce the Cowboys pick at number ten in your mock

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<v Speaker 1>draft because I think it's one that's very interesting and

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<v Speaker 1>an intriguing thought process. Whenever that day in April comes around, well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Cowboys fans were unanimous in their love for

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<v Speaker 1>this pick. No, actually they weren't. I went with Reshaun

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<v Speaker 1>Slater offensive town call Northwestern, and you know, I first off,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, look mock drafts, especially now in January.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about scenarios. It's not about this is who they're

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely going to take or they should take. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>laying out the scenarios. And when you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys I think Rashawn Slater is the perfect fit for

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<v Speaker 1>what they need. He's a guy that can step in

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<v Speaker 1>play guard right away. He can step in play left tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>right tackle. It gives you a long term plan for

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<v Speaker 1>life after tyring a left tackle, so you have so

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<v Speaker 1>much position flexibility, and I feel like that it gets

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<v Speaker 1>thrown around a lot. He has realistic position versatility where

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<v Speaker 1>he can play tackle or a guard and they're just

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<v Speaker 1>he can step in from day one. He's NFL already

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<v Speaker 1>technique wise, timing wise, discipline wise. So I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot going for Rashawn Slater that where you plug

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<v Speaker 1>him into that offensive line and that fixes a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of issues. Now, there are some Cowboys fans that will say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's not defense, I don't want to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it just it doesn't make any sense. And

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<v Speaker 1>I get that something I'll say in defense of the pick,

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<v Speaker 1>is it's not easy to find offensive lineman outside the

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<v Speaker 1>first round. I think it's a lot easier to find linebackers,

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<v Speaker 1>even a corner Trevon Diggs last year. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>easier to find guys in the secondary. It's easier on

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<v Speaker 1>day two compared to an offensive lineman, especially a premier

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman. So I think there'll be a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys fans that would balk at picking Slater, especially over

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<v Speaker 1>a Gila Certan out of Alabama. But I think that

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<v Speaker 1>it's at least a conversation that the Cowboys need to

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<v Speaker 1>have in terms of impact potential for how they can

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<v Speaker 1>help this offense and gives them a plan for how

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<v Speaker 1>to attack the defense on day two. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense. But Jeff, whenever there's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like certain on the board, you have every dt

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<v Speaker 1>on the board, and there's guys like that, how much

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<v Speaker 1>poudse does he give you going with the offensive side

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<v Speaker 1>of the football, or does this pick make that much

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<v Speaker 1>sense in order to make it a reality if it

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<v Speaker 1>were to come to fruition. To me, it makes all

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<v Speaker 1>the sense in the world. So I have no hesitation

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<v Speaker 1>if they were to make a pick like that, even

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<v Speaker 1>with the board looking exactly like it did, because I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at this the other day. You're still counting

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<v Speaker 1>on on the Cowboys offensive line. We talk about everything

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<v Speaker 1>that's invested in it, but the guys who are still

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<v Speaker 1>carrying your offensive line were drafted in the twenty eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and the twenty fourteen draft, so a decade ago and

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<v Speaker 1>seven years ago that Zack Martin and Tyron Smith. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have the opportunity in the top ten to pick

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that you love that's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of extending the run of having a really good

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line, then you pick him. If you think Rashawn

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<v Speaker 1>Slater is a better prospect than Patrick Curtain, then you

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<v Speaker 1>pick him. If you think Patrick Curtan is a better

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<v Speaker 1>prospect than Rashawn Slater, then you pick him. You know

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<v Speaker 1>I would just pick Look, you're in the top ten,

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<v Speaker 1>don't screw the pickup. Whichever guy you think is a

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<v Speaker 1>better player, they're going to help your team. They're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get on the field, they're going to play. In

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<v Speaker 1>Curtan's case, it would be as a starter, as a corner.

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<v Speaker 1>In Slater's case, it would be as a starter at

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<v Speaker 1>either left guard or left tackle or wherever. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you pick the best player. I get it. You want defense.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also trading, there's free agency, there's six more rounds

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft. You pick the best player. You're in

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<v Speaker 1>the top ten. And I agree with Jeff. Look at

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things. Tyrant has missed multiple games the

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<v Speaker 1>last few years, and the type of injury he has

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<v Speaker 1>is a little jarring Lyle Collins obviously the type of

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<v Speaker 1>injury he has with a hip. I don't like hip

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<v Speaker 1>injuries on my offensive tackles, right, So that's something to

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind. I think another thing to keep in

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<v Speaker 1>mind that I liked what Dane did with this scenario

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<v Speaker 1>is there's two good things that happened here. There's one

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<v Speaker 1>at one of two things that happened here. When you're

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<v Speaker 1>picking at ten, and this case, four quarterbacks go before

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<v Speaker 1>pick ten, pushing position players down. The thing that might

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<v Speaker 1>be more alluring, and I know it is to captain

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<v Speaker 1>trade down, would be if maybe that fourth quarterback made

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<v Speaker 1>it to ten. Because man, I was looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen playoff teams, men four of them might need new quarterbacks. Colts, Steelers,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Washington, Chicago, I mean, there are teams who are

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<v Speaker 1>picking nineteen and up, and that's without looking at eleven

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<v Speaker 1>to eighteen. There are teams picking nineteen and up who

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<v Speaker 1>might want to get up to ten and start developing

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Lance or if it fields folds or whatever happens there.

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<v Speaker 1>So having that quarterback stay could be beneficial to the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>But overall, I do not disagree. I think the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>front office two might have a little bit of I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say Connor Williams regret, because it's not

0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams as a bust, but comparatively to their first

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<v Speaker 1>round hits, that's a pretty recent thing in their head, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>the second round or we drafted he's okay, but man,

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<v Speaker 1>what if we knocked out a really good top flight

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<v Speaker 1>officsive Ironman at ten. It's something I think this front

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<v Speaker 1>office might think about. Where do you guys feel about

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<v Speaker 1>about Rashaun Slater and what he brings as a prospect, Dame,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know there's a lot of tackles that are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of in that second round prospect kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe what we saw from Connor Williams, And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring up Texas just for the fact of

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<v Speaker 1>bringing up Texas. But there is a guy like Samuel

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<v Speaker 1>Kazmi that'll probably be there in the second I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Mayfield for Michigan, Christian derris Off for Virginia Tech,

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<v Speaker 1>who's a pretty solid tackle that I know we've already

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<v Speaker 1>talked about on this show. There are other tackles, But

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<v Speaker 1>why Slater above all of those guys up at number ten? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I stated earlier, I think that it's just

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<v Speaker 1>easier to find tackles in the first I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're hoping one of those tackles falls in the second,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe they will, but I mean there's a

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<v Speaker 1>reason they fell that far, you know, and so many

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<v Speaker 1>teams are tackle starved in the league, and so there's

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<v Speaker 1>a reason they're available in the second round, and that

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<v Speaker 1>should give you a little bit of pause. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think when you specifically a Rishawn Slater, I mean when

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<v Speaker 1>you break down his tape and you know he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have that elite size, but he's agile, he's stout, he's

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<v Speaker 1>power packed, he doesn't allow rushers to go through him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very What I love most about Rashaan Slater is

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<v Speaker 1>he is so quick to lock up pass rushers before

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<v Speaker 1>they can do anything, before they can set up their moves,

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<v Speaker 1>so he doesn't stray from his fundamentals. He's smart, technically sound.

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<v Speaker 1>I just everything says that this guy's a future starter. Enough,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get digging throughout the process because his arms

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be about thirty two and three quarters

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<v Speaker 1>and so he's gonna not hit that thirty three inch

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<v Speaker 1>threshold that a lot of teams have. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you watch his film, you can't help but think.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he can overcome that, no problem. And plus

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<v Speaker 1>you get the factor you're going up against Chase Young

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<v Speaker 1>twice a year. We saw Rashaan Slater go up against

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Young last year in Ohio State faced Northwestern and

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<v Speaker 1>turned out Slater was the only tackle that could on

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<v Speaker 1>the college level that could even remotely slow him down.

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<v Speaker 1>So that has to give you a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>optimism moving forward. I love that pick, but whenever you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the current state of this offensive line and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a couple tackles out, and of course I

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<v Speaker 1>think long term, you want him to be your left tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>you want him to be your Tyrand Smith replacement. But Katie,

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<v Speaker 1>it would Slater play guard first? Would he be at

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<v Speaker 1>left guard initially? Is it just the versatility that you're

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<v Speaker 1>excited about because he could come in and play immediately

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<v Speaker 1>a guard and then ultimately move out to one of

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<v Speaker 1>the tackle spots whenever you needed him. I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's one of those things that can have a

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<v Speaker 1>better answer for you, and you know in March or April,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I just to me, it's flip a

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<v Speaker 1>coin that Tyrd Smith is on this team next year.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean fifty to fifty, whether it's retirement, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>cap casualty or whatever. I don't necessarily one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>think he's here next year. And you know, we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>that that's all gonna play out. I'm gonna find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to get him on the field. He's my number

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<v Speaker 1>ten pick, though he will be starting for me. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not a developmental guy. He's ready to go. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Dane menchened Chase Young twice a year. How about you

0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:55.680
<v Speaker 1>guys watch the Bills a little bit, see aj epenessa

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<v Speaker 1>flash a little bit. He handled Japanessa at Iowa back

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteen as well. I mean, Slater's ready to go. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I know he didn't play in twenty twenty. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>one question mark you might have is what does he

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<v Speaker 1>look like now? What has he done? And everything you

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<v Speaker 1>hear about him is he's a great dude, um and

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<v Speaker 1>he's in he's in control of his body, all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like, he's good to go, Katie. Here here's your assignment.

0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Uh Rashawn's working out in Frisco right now, so just

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<v Speaker 1>topping the car. Need you to sneak in, get some footage,

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<v Speaker 1>see what the body's looking like. See how because he

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to his trainer and he's working out a

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<v Speaker 1>guard and center, so getting used to the body movement.

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<v Speaker 1>So I need you to get a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>footage of that he always doing. That's your assignment, right

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Seeler, Yeah, I mean, if let's go and

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<v Speaker 1>just get it done. Thanks buddy, appreciate you. But Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like that's a realistic expectation is to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to come in and play guard initially and

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<v Speaker 1>do it successfully against the division that at least really

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<v Speaker 1>the strengths of the teams, even though there maybe not

0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:05.520
<v Speaker 1>be very strong teams, the front sevens are pretty stout. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why I think his name there makes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense because of everything that Dane is

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. I think Rashawn Slater versus Penney Sewell is

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<v Speaker 1>a great debate at playing tackle. That's how good I

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<v Speaker 1>think his tape is a tackle. Now, the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to consider him at Garden Center, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just to me, it's just extra because if you're comparing

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<v Speaker 1>his tackle tape to say, Christian dey Saw or Elijah

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<v Speaker 1>Vera Tucker, or pick the names of other guys that

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<v Speaker 1>you like that could be first round picks, Rashawn Slater's

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<v Speaker 1>got better tape. He's the better player, and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that people are going to project to be And

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's almost like a if you can play left tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>you play left tackle. So I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>teams are kind of projecting it to like, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you can play left tackle, so he

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<v Speaker 1>can do this, and they're gonna feel like, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be an all pro guard or he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be an incredible guard. Yeah, but he's a better tackle

0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.639
<v Speaker 1>prospect than the other tackles you could take in the

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<v Speaker 1>first round. So that's why it makes sense because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>planning for him to be my left tackle forever, but

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<v Speaker 1>if he has to play guard, I think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be awesome at it. I hope that's the case. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that's something that the Cowboys could look at moving

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<v Speaker 1>into the draft process, and hopefully we get some insight

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<v Speaker 1>from Katie here after this first commercial break on how

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<v Speaker 1>how Slater's body's working. He looks great, He's in great shape,

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:35.800
<v Speaker 1>He's doing well good. I know you got in and

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<v Speaker 1>out pretty quick. That was fantastic. Some other notes from

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<v Speaker 1>the mock draft from Dame Rubler, of course, but I

0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.040
<v Speaker 1>thought it was interesting. One pick after the Cowboys took Slater,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Pitts, the tied end from Florida, flies off the

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<v Speaker 1>board and he goes straight to Division rival New York

0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:54.280
<v Speaker 1>as the Giants pick him up, and then San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>The pick right after that takes Patrick Sir Tan, the

0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.320
<v Speaker 1>cornerback out of Alabama. So two guys that at least

0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:03.360
<v Speaker 1>have been thought about around the Cowboys have flown off

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<v Speaker 1>the board one pick and two picks right afterwards, Dane,

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<v Speaker 1>is that another thing that was kind of interesting is

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<v Speaker 1>you could have gone offense in a couple ways you

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<v Speaker 1>could have gone offensive tackle, but you also still had

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Pitts on the board there. Yeah, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely considered it there at ten. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>look at it, Michael Gallup, He's entering a contract year.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it realistic you're going to be able to resign

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<v Speaker 1>him when you've got you know, Amari with his contract

0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and you eventually are thinking you're going to resign Ceedee

0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Lamb And you know, maybe Kyle Pitts can slide in

0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:36.919
<v Speaker 1>there and you know, really serve as a wide receiver

0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.359
<v Speaker 1>for you. You know, Kyle Pitts. I think when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you stack the players in this draft, good luck

0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to find five players better than him. You know,

0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:49.280
<v Speaker 1>just talent wise, he's that good. Um, It's just more

0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 1>about how does he project to your offense? Do you

0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:55.919
<v Speaker 1>have the creativity and the understanding of his strengths to

0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:59.560
<v Speaker 1>implement his skills. Not every offensive coordinator is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be up to that, um, But you know, I think

0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:03.720
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be a terrific weapon. Where he ends

0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.440
<v Speaker 1>up the Giants, I think that makes sense. They're missing

0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that playmaker. He can be a Plexico Burrs for them.

0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:11.600
<v Speaker 1>He could be that playmaker for them. So I think

0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.440
<v Speaker 1>it makes sense, even though Giants fans are a little

0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 1>a little gun shy after Evan Ingram has kind of

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<v Speaker 1>been a disappointment after being a first round pick and

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<v Speaker 1>then certain you know, he was the other consideration there

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<v Speaker 1>for the for the Cowboys at ten and I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a good National Championship performance. Uh didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of targets his way. I thought, uh, you know,

0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:35.000
<v Speaker 1>he there were some open moments Fields just didn't see

0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:39.960
<v Speaker 1>him the receiver that Curtain was covering. I think when

0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:42.840
<v Speaker 1>he runs in the four fives, that's when we're gonna

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:44.560
<v Speaker 1>hear a lot about Okay, is he fast enough to

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<v Speaker 1>go top ten? And this and that, and that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a topic, a topic that's you know, we're gonna

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 1>talk to death here. But there's there's no more NFL

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<v Speaker 1>ready corner in this draft than Patrick Surtain. I'm interested

0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 1>about that, and I know, Ja you kind of knox

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:03.440
<v Speaker 1>her Tan for that as well, potentially being a slower

0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:09.119
<v Speaker 1>forty right, Yeah, and it not in a it's weird

0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 1>because when you start talking about guys that might go

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<v Speaker 1>in the top ten, and you mentioned the things that

0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you have concerns about you turn into a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>hates the player. Patrick Surtan's a really really good prospect,

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:21.720
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I just I wonder like when they got

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<v Speaker 1>down to the goal line there, and I think it

0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:25.520
<v Speaker 1>was Garrett Wilson, they kind of gave him a little

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 1>hesitation and ran a fade. If Fields sees that throws

0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 1>that it's an easy touchdown. And that's just that's my

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.040
<v Speaker 1>one thing about patrick's Urtan is how do you match

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<v Speaker 1>up with guys that are shifty, nuanced rout runners in

0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:41.960
<v Speaker 1>man coverage. I think he's a really good prospect. I

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:45.160
<v Speaker 1>have questions about that aspect because I just don't know

0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:49.679
<v Speaker 1>how fast and quick he is. He's really really good

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:51.399
<v Speaker 1>and I'd love to have him on the team, but

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<v Speaker 1>those are my questions. The answer is hiring a new

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<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator or run a lot of Cover three, because

0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:01.159
<v Speaker 1>I do think he's pretty perfect for that with what

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Speaker 1>they're moving too. With a lot of cover three, Dan

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Quinn and Patrick Curtain's gonna be pretty ideal for that.

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Richard Sherman did pretty good with his four to six

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:13.320
<v Speaker 1>something forty and a Cover three for his career, not

0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:15.199
<v Speaker 1>comparing the two by the way. I don't want anyone

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 1>to freak out or anything, but I think I think

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:20.120
<v Speaker 1>curtain makes a lot of sense in a cover three

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 1>type situation. Katy's looking ahead on the rundown a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about that coming up here in this

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<v Speaker 1>next segment. No, it was good, No, it was good.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a perfect analysis there, Katie. Final highlight that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I had from the from the mock draft.

0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 1>But Christian Barmore the first defensive tackle off the board.

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:39.639
<v Speaker 1>He goes off the board at twenty five, and I

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 1>mean he's I think a fantastic player. He showed out

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<v Speaker 1>again in the National Championship game and he just looks

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:47.480
<v Speaker 1>like a game changer. Dane. But Dane, was there a

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<v Speaker 1>pick maybe after the Cowboys? That was your favorite fit

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.440
<v Speaker 1>of the draft? I don't want to really talk top ten.

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking pretty much at anything after that. But was

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<v Speaker 1>there anything that stuck out to you as this is

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect fit, because I thought Barmore was pretty perfect there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think that that certainly fits. I mean

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 1>there were a couple of Christian Derris out to the Chargers.

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean they need to protect Justin Herbert. I thought

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:11.240
<v Speaker 1>that was a great fit. Jalen Waddle to the Patriots.

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>We don't know what's going on at quarterback there, but

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 1>we know they need playmakers, and Jalen Waddle is certainly

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 1>a playmaker. You know, I thought there were definitely a

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<v Speaker 1>few h you mentioned Barmore. Barmore's interesting because he's only

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>a Richard sophomore. He hasn't officially declared yets with weight

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 1>on that official decision, but you know, you could tell

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<v Speaker 1>the second half of the year he's just getting better

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:36.159
<v Speaker 1>and better and better. There's so much potential, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much ability that by the time the draft gets here,

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<v Speaker 1>we might be talking about Barmore as a possibility at

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<v Speaker 1>number ten because he's just so talented of a player

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 1>and so a Barnmore's definitely a name to keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on. There's two really unfair ones that Dane had

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<v Speaker 1>on there. Chris Elave going to the Saints, another Ohio

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 1>State guy crossed from Michael Thomas, and man Cadarius Tony

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 1>from Florida the lade receiver to the Chiefs. Come on, man,

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.919
<v Speaker 1>can the league have a chance? Give us a chance?

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I also like Naja Harris to the Bucks. I mean

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Bruce arians he is desperate, desperately wanting that pass catching back.

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Leonard Fournett's kind of filling that role this year, but

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, good chance he's not back next year. Naja

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<v Speaker 1>Harris plug him in right there. This is a win

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 1>now team. You know that window is closing at a

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 1>player like Naja Harris in the first round, and just

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<v Speaker 1>I think that'd be just another boost to that offense.

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<v Speaker 1>I also like green Bay picking up Davian Nixon, the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle out of Iowa at thirty one. I think

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<v Speaker 1>him being an interior presence for that green Bay defense

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:43.199
<v Speaker 1>would be something really exciting to see. Now, all of

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs shifting and kind of the way that things

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>are going to work out from the playoffs will change

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<v Speaker 1>these picks around. But I like what you you had

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<v Speaker 1>going there day whenever it comes to some of these

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>late round guys. Even Joseph A said, the edge rusher

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 1>out of Texas going to Baltimore, that's scary too, I think,

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 1>and seeing him with the Ravens would be something very entertaining. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's step aside. When we come back twitter on the twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>are the Cowboys looking at a specific type of defender?

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<v Speaker 1>Now with Dan Quinn in the mix, and what does

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<v Speaker 1>that defender look like when we return here on the

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<v Speaker 1>Draft on April twenty nine, twenty twenty one, in Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's time now for some twitter on the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>on the twenty of course, Chris Beam always doing great

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<v Speaker 1>work back there at the Star in Frisco. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start things off with you, Jeff. I want Jeff Cavanaugh

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<v Speaker 1>to take the stage here with this early question, and

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<v Speaker 1>this comes from Shane. Shane says, what are the type

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<v Speaker 1>of defenders that dan Quinn, new defensive coordinator for the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys might be looking at in this up coming drafts?

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<v Speaker 1>Specifically at linebacker in the cornerback spot after all the

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>first rounders are gone. But I kind of want to

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<v Speaker 1>throw the first round in there too, because we talked

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>about a little bit of Patrick's or Tan a little

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 1>bit ago with Kat. But what kind of specific players

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>are we're looking to throw into that cover three scheme

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>with dan Quinn? Well, I think you just you mentioned it.

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>If you're picturing the dan Quinn Seattle, then you're talking

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>about four down linemen, you're talking about a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Cover three. You're talking about a free safety who can

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>cover a ton of ground and fix mistakes there on

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the back end. But I don't think that's very much

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>different than what they would have been looking for anyway.

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Like the entire league is looking for a free safety

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>that can get sideline to sideline and cover ground. The

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:48.959
<v Speaker 1>entire league is looking for corners that are long and

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>can run and can play the ball. So I actually

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>don't think I mean, I guess it's technically different than

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>if it were Mike Nolan, and you might have been

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>looking for something a little bit different, But I don't

0:30:58.120 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>think it's all that different than what you might have

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>been looking for if say Rod Marinelli and Chris Richard

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>were still here. You'd love to find a free safety.

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>You'd love to find a corner that's tall, long, fast,

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and can play the ball in the air. Linebacker, I

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:18.960
<v Speaker 1>think your two might be on the roster. But defensive line,

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you're probably looking for guys that are capable of playing

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>the run on the way to rushing the passer as

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>opposed to just shooting gaps. But that's just top of

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>my head what I think that That's what I think

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>of when I think of Dan Quinn defenses. Is those

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>things Katy, Well, yeah, And I think it was very

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>interesting And I didn't know this to find out that

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn had quite a bit more say in Atlanta

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>from a personnel standpoint than just going and being the

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>head coach. That was kind of enlightening because I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that that if I had the hiden

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>more safe. You take a look back at his draft history,

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<v Speaker 1>this might make Jeff excited some Cowboys fans excited just

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>a few things that he's done. I think back to

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen, in the third round, he took Deetrons, not

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<v Speaker 1>a big defensive tackles. That tells you the third round

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>he's not He wasn't scared to spend a premium pick.

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 1>And I know it's not just him making the calls, right,

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>but he had a big say in personnel in Atlanta.

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>So the investment in a one technique defensive tackle might

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>be something He did. Try to take a lot of,

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, long cornerbacks Isaiah Oliver in twenty eighteen, you

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<v Speaker 1>know Jalen Collins back in his first year in twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the year that they drafted both Vic

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Beasley and Grady Jarrett, who's all pro of course, but

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<v Speaker 1>like they spent a lot of resources on defense in

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>his time there in Atlanta, and just for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>you just weren't able to get that defense to be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the upper tier defenses in the league.

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's a little frustrating and maybe a little concerning,

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>would you look at it. But you know, players make

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>this happen, not coaches, and that's the most important thing

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>to think about, is like the players just gotta be good.

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<v Speaker 1>I really, I really feel better about Donovan Wilson's role

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>here now if your plan is to do a lot

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>of Cover three, and again we don't know, Dan quib

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe making some sneaky adjustments, but if you're gonna play

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of cover three, getting a lot of safety

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>up near the line of scrimmage, I feel much better

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>about Donovan Wilson's prospects as a starter on this team

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>moving forward. Dan, Yeah, you know, I think that's something

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 1>that we've learned, you know, the last five seven years,

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>is the Cowboys front office, how willing they've been to draft,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically for the attitude of the coaches and what exactly

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>they're looking for. Whether you know, and that doll hasn't

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>always worked out, you know, talking about you know a

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Taco Charlton or the defensi Tago from UCF who has

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>been so irrelevant already forgot his name, Crystal Hills, Yes,

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Triston Hill. Uh you know obviously they that hasn't worked out,

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 1>but the Cowboys front office has been very willing to, uh,

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, address the needs that best fit the scheme

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and what the coaches want. And I think when you

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>look at this class, uh linebacker, there's some really intriguing

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>mid round, you know, linebackers I think fit what coach

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Quinn wants to do. Um. One guy just down the

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>road at TCU, Garrett Wallow, number thirty. Uh. You know

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>you turn on the TCU tape to watch the safeties,

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>but there's number thirty just running around like his head

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>cut off, just hitting dudes. Very very active player it Uh.

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 1>You know there's sometimes that leads over pursuit and being

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>too aggressive, but you love that active play style. Tony

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Fields at West Virginia is another one who a little undersized,

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 1>but he can run and that you're looking for that speed.

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>So um, you know I've done you know, I've talked

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 1>with coach Quinn before, and I've really enjoyed our talks

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 1>because he he's a coach that gets it um, He's

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>a he's a thinking type of coach. You know. One

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>thing that really stood out to me, you know, when

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I talked to him before, has been his understanding of

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:12.240
<v Speaker 1>what wins on offense and you know, trying to limit

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>that and the biggest thing or explosive plays. He understands

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that how to try what you have to do to

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>try to stop those explosive plays, and that's what you

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 1>have to do to win on defense in today's NFL.

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:24.919
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's a great hire and I'm looking

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 1>forward to seeing how that will manifest itself on the draft.

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>That's something you have to do successfully as a defensive

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>coordinator is understand the offensive game and how it's evolved.

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 1>And I think that might be one of the big

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>knocks against Dan Quinn during his time in Atlanta was

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>the fact that, hey, he came from a defensive scheme

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and then hey, he figured out how to play a

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 1>little bit of offense with Matt Ryan and company as

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 1>a head coach, and then he tried to take the

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 1>defense back over. It didn't have any success. That's one

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>of my big worries is how can he find a

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 1>way to get back to that Seattle form of thinking

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and that Seattle's success of adjusting with the modern off

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.719
<v Speaker 1>fence and adjusting with these mobile quarterbacks that he's gonna

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with more so now than he had

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe back in twenty twelve and twenty thirteen. So that's

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>something that I think we'll have to look for and

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe go into the personnel that he ends up selecting

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>whenever he does get his first shot at it. Okay,

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 1>So the second question comes from Randall. He says, what

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 1>would be one scenario in the first round that would

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>elicit a pin throw moment? Katie? Where would you just

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>chuck that pin? If blank ended up happening in April?

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I think I know the player that Jeff is gonna say.

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.919
<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong, So I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna go away from that here. If for me, it

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 1>would be if they just did something out of this

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>world and did like maybe they reached for Dressau or

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe they reached for Vera Tucker from you USC or

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>something like that. I'm saying again, I'm saving this for

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Jeff because I'm gonna give him the player that I

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:00.840
<v Speaker 1>think he's going to mention. But that would be the

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 1>pin throw moment I think for me is if they

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>reached for someone who was maybe the third, fourth, fifth

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>player at their position in the draft. When you're picking

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>at ten and it's right there in front of you,

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.880
<v Speaker 1>time to do anything crazy, take the good player. That

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>would a taco like situation, if you will. That would

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>be the pin throw moment for me. I'll say this

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 1>at ten, it's really hard to screw it up. Oh

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you could screw it up. If you picked Gregory Rousseau.

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:33.879
<v Speaker 1>I would say, Miami defensive end. He can't play. He's

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.720
<v Speaker 1>not good. He had eighteen sacks and he's not good.

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:40.879
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's my guy. That's my guy. Dane's gonna

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>mock him in the top half of the first round,

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 1>so is everybody else. Everybody's gonna tell me he's so

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>long and he's so athletic, and you're gonna watch him

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 1>on tape just light up in the middle and run

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>around to guard and guards in the NFL aren't gonna

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>let you do that. And he doesn't win from the outside.

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know how athletic he is. He's just

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:58.280
<v Speaker 1>a tall dude that accidentally got a bunch of sacks

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't want. Gregory Rousseau and the first room. I

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>like him a little bit more than that, but I mean,

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I do agree with you. He's, you know, being a

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 1>little bit overrated as a top half, a round one

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>type of guy. When you look at it, there's probably

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>only you know, one position that would be drafted ahead

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>of the Cowboys that you know that would you know

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 1>they're not going to take, and that's wide receiver. You know,

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're gonna draft the quarterback, but even

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:26.879
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback you would like to see there at number

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 1>ten for those trade possibilities like Katie mentioned. So you know,

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:32.760
<v Speaker 1>if you see three wide receivers go off the board

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:36.359
<v Speaker 1>in the first nine picks, that's that, you know, that's

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>the fake pen throw because you know you feel good

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 1>that you're not taking receiver there. Every other position could

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>be on the board for them. Gregory Rosso six foot five,

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and sixty pounds and Dan you had him

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>mock to fourteenth to Minnesota, So just four picks behind

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys to Minnesota in your mock draft. The other day,

0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 1>do you, And you said he's a little bit overrated

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 1>for maybe a top half of the draft. But whenever

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>you look at a guy like Rousseau, and I know

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:06.359
<v Speaker 1>we'll probably talk about him on multiple occasions, especially after

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 1>he probably goes and lights up the combine, But is

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>it more so just the prospect and the potential of

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.919
<v Speaker 1>that frame and that athleticism rather than maybe the tape

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 1>that he already put out in college even though there

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>was production. Yeah, And here's the thing is when you

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>factor in his journey. He was a wide receiver in

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>high school and he moved to defensive end as a senior.

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 1>As a Richard freshman, had all this production and then

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:34.360
<v Speaker 1>it didn't play this past year as a Richard sophomore.

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 1>So you think his ceiling is going to be so

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 1>much more And that's really where it's going to get

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 1>interesting with the projection of a guy like Gregory Rousso.

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:48.439
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's definitely some risk, involved, a lot of risk.

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 1>I understand why someone are going to be intrigued, But

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:54.399
<v Speaker 1>the top half of round one, that's that's pretty rich

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 1>to take a player like that. In my opinion, it's

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:00.399
<v Speaker 1>it's a little different because this player did not line

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:04.320
<v Speaker 1>up inside like Gregory roussetted, but kind of measurable wise,

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 1>a little Leonard Floyd who went seventh a few years ago,

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.399
<v Speaker 1>and the Cowboys actually did have interest in a guy

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>who struggled early in the league and has kind of

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>put it together as he's become a veteran. That's the

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.919
<v Speaker 1>whole thing, as a guy who had a year off

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:23.399
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty, Like, how do I know that he's

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:27.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna play lower, playing more consistently with his hands, uh,

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.399
<v Speaker 1>and not just win based on his physical traits? How

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 1>do I know that that's difficult? That's you. You're a

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 1>roll in the dice. If you're taking him at ten,

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 1>that is just kind of out of this world, rolling

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>the dice. But there will be guys who are in

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 1>love with him. There will be teams who are in

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 1>love with him. Leonard Floyd could turn the corner. He

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 1>was a good as Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rousseau can't do that.

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Rousseau is a linear, weird player. That's just tall and long,

0:40:57.200 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 1>that's all he is. No, you're right, and I just

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 1>about to think comparison from a measurable standpoint, thin tall,

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, around the same way and I think Floyd

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>was a little bit about ten to fifteen pounds lighter

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 1>than Rousseau. But like just where they were taken though,

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys. The Cowboys like Leonard Floyd. If you're to

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 1>believe that Peter King article that came out where Peter

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 1>King was in the war room that night in twenty sixteen,

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 1>if you'll remember, the biggest thing that I think you

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 1>worry about with a guy like Rousseau is there's some

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 1>there's some similarities with him and Taco in terms of

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>what Jeff is saying about being long and linear and

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 1>not fully understanding how to use his skill set. And

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit of that. Now Rousseau is a

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:45.760
<v Speaker 1>little freakier and his ceilings a little higher. But that

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 1>that's where the little bit of worry starts to creep in.

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Dane just buried Rousseau in the minds of every Cowboys

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 1>fan that has ever listened to the Draft show. Because

0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 1>of comparing anybody compared to Taco, Charleton's ultimately going to

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 1>end up writing them off and taking them off the

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 1>draft board. Okay, final question before we move on. Our

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>friend Bertie on Twitter says, how do these potential first

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 1>round corners compared to the previous years first round corners

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:19.399
<v Speaker 1>in terms of their early grades. Now, of course, none

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 1>of the grades are complete right now at this point

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>in the draft process, but Dame, when you look at

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of this year compared to past years, where do

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.720
<v Speaker 1>you have these corners slotted in with guys like Patrick

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Curtan and of course okay, with Farley and some of

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>those top prospects. And it's so tough to do this

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 1>because it's hard to eliminate what we know about these

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 1>corners at the NFL level. You know, it's hard to

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 1>eliminate the year that Okuda had and CJ. Henderson and

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 1>AJ Terrell and all these guys. I think Farley and

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Certan would probably be if they were in last year's draft,

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:56.719
<v Speaker 1>fighting with CJ. Henderson to be cornerback two behind Okuda,

0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 1>So right there in that top ten conversation. You know,

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I think they're better prospects than you know, AJ Terrell

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Um and some of the corners that were drafted after that.

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's it could be tough to do

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 1>this type of exercise, but I do think that they'd

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>be still in that top ten conversation fighting out to

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:20.319
<v Speaker 1>be the second corner drafted. Does that intrigue you, Katy? Uh? Yeah,

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean I again, Dave said, it's very difficult and

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.880
<v Speaker 1>for me, Um, maybe I'm losing my mind already. Some

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 1>of the years run together. I just pulled up my

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen draft board and it was really Latimore and

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 1>everyone else and Tredevious Whites turned out to be the

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>best cornerback of that group right there. I had it

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>first run grade on him. Um, but I can't tell

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 1>you that I think I'd have a higher grade on

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 1>based on my films study, a higher grade on Farley

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 1>in certain than I did on Tredevious White. Um. But

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm also a guy who liked tease Tabors so kill me,

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 1>you know. So wow, Yeah, that's a lot. That's a

0:43:56.840 --> 0:44:02.959
<v Speaker 1>little harsh. Yeah, I agree. I think if I don't

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 1>even have all the names in front of me right now,

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>but if you go back like when Denzel Ward was

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>coming out, or Marshaun Lattimore or Jalen Ramsey last year,

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Okuda, all of those guys I would have ahead

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 1>of where you have Sir Tan and Farley, and yeah,

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 1>those guys would be it would be okay. C J.

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Henderson versus sur tan and they would be very different,

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>and it would be very close, and I might have

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Henderson ahead. But yeah, that's you know what. Each year,

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I think there's been a guy that I would think

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>is a close to elite corner prospect, and I wouldn't

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 1>have Sir Tanner Farley ahead of any of those guys.

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I think you can make some pretty close comparisons between

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Farley and CJ. Henderson. I think they you know, good

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 1>sized athletes, you know good speed. They're discipline is something

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that needs to be improved, but I think they're pretty

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>similar players. Yeah, I don't see either one of these

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 1>guys classified, like Jeff said, as an elite corner from

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:08.840
<v Speaker 1>back prospect. They're both really really good and they deserve

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:12.239
<v Speaker 1>to be in the top fifteen conversation. But I think overall,

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 1>when you look at kind of the film study between

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 1>guys like a Denzel Award in the past or a

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Jeff o'cuda last year, I know those are both Ohio

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:22.319
<v Speaker 1>State guys, but still it's not necessarily that same level.

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Even a Lattimore back in the past. Those guys that

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:29.240
<v Speaker 1>continue to be elite prospects after coming out of school.

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't see Farley Orcertan up to that level. But CJ. Henderson,

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:35.439
<v Speaker 1>I like what you kind of through out there, Dane,

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>whenever it comes to those two guys, at least whenever

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:40.319
<v Speaker 1>it comes to Farley as the comparison there. But that's

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna do it for Twitter on the twenty. This week,

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>when we come back, we're gonna hit the second round

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>of Dane's mock draft, and hey, the Cowboys might go

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:50.240
<v Speaker 1>safety a little bit earlier than they have in almost

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<v Speaker 1>Dame Brugler, Kevin KT Turner, and myself Kyle Yeoman's and

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<v Speaker 1>glad you've been with us. Thanks again to all of

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<v Speaker 1>those who sent in there and Twitter on the twenty questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna go into the second round mock draft

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<v Speaker 1>here from Dame Brugler in the Athletic and kind of

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:31.359
<v Speaker 1>talk about what he had for the Cowboys at forty four. Now,

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:33.920
<v Speaker 1>there was a bit of a run of edge rushers

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:38.920
<v Speaker 1>right before the Cowboys selecting at forty four, So three

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:42.919
<v Speaker 1>from three edge rushers taken from forty through forty three

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:46.360
<v Speaker 1>right before that Dallas pick, and Dallas ends up taking

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:51.360
<v Speaker 1>TCU free safety Trayvon Moig, a guy who I know, Jeff,

0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you're very high on, but you're not even as high

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:57.200
<v Speaker 1>on him as maybe even his teammate and Darius Washington.

0:48:57.280 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 1>But overall, what did you think about the pick? Mister

0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Kavanaugh and kind of where the Cowboys went here in

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the second round, the highest they would have picked the

0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:08.000
<v Speaker 1>safety since two thousand and two. That works for me,

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I think marig is. I think he's a he's a

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:13.799
<v Speaker 1>really good prospect. I think he's one of the top

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:15.880
<v Speaker 1>two safeties in this draft. He alluded to it. I

0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 1>actually prefer his five foot eight teammate. I think I

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:22.399
<v Speaker 1>think our Darius Washington's only weaknesses that he's five foot eight,

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 1>and I think he's got I think he's a quicker reactor.

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got better instincts. I think he's a

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:31.360
<v Speaker 1>better man and zone coverage guy than his own teammate.

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 1>But there's something good about being six one six two

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:37.600
<v Speaker 1>over two hundred pounds and being a good safety prospect.

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Then I'll probably get him picked before Washington. But yeah,

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 1>you nailed it. I like our Darius Washington. He's my guy.

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I like my tiny guy. Dane did The fact that

0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 1>there was a bit of an edge rusher run right

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 1>at the top of the forties kind of deter you

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:55.440
<v Speaker 1>away from the Cowboys maybe making a pick like an

0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:58.920
<v Speaker 1>ad rusher there. Well, you know, I think the Cowboys,

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:01.120
<v Speaker 1>obviously if they especially they go offensive line in the

0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 1>first round. Um, you know, I think it's fair to

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:07.320
<v Speaker 1>say they're going defense in the second round and edge rusher,

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:10.920
<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle, linebacker, corner, safety. I mean, they could go

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:14.319
<v Speaker 1>any of those positions, right, So it really opens it

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 1>up to going with the best player available there on defense.

0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:20.680
<v Speaker 1>And when you look at it, I thought I'd be

0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:24.239
<v Speaker 1>going corner just because that looks like it could be

0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:27.239
<v Speaker 1>a need area, especially for a starter. But with no

0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:31.800
<v Speaker 1>safety's drafted up to that point, and you know, Xavier Woods.

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:35.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, we all love the pick with the value

0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:38.279
<v Speaker 1>that we got with Woods, but safe to say I

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:40.759
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's the future of that position for the Cowboys.

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, a chance to go get the top free

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:46.520
<v Speaker 1>safety in the draft, that's certainly appealing with Morick and

0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:49.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, you you alluded to. I was kind of

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 1>surprised this would be the highest that they draft since

0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Roy Williams that draft a position. So you have to

0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 1>wonder how much of a philosophy is it. We know

0:50:57.239 --> 0:51:00.440
<v Speaker 1>this team does not believe in drafting nose tackle was early,

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:03.480
<v Speaker 1>which I agree with. I get. Do they have a

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, a tendency to look at safety the same way,

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:10.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, just their drafting history would say maybe, And

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:12.480
<v Speaker 1>so you know, would they consider a safety at this

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 1>point he even knew Byron Jones he was a first rounder,

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 1>played plenty of safety, even though I think they draft

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 1>him to be a corner. So you know, we have

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 1>to look at it, and they have plenty of opportunities

0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 1>for a corner, for a safety. Here ed Rusher that

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, there was a little bit of a run

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:30.040
<v Speaker 1>on the first few picks ahead of it. Maybe that's

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:33.000
<v Speaker 1>a direction they go. So if they go offensive line,

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>they've got a lot of different avenues they could explore

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.840
<v Speaker 1>in that second round. The swear it gets fun is

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:40.960
<v Speaker 1>because Dane did it on a mock draft. You can

0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:44.400
<v Speaker 1>now question everything Dane did and just like we do

0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:48.200
<v Speaker 1>after real drafts and even looking at drafts from the history,

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 1>do you go, who could they have gotten after that?

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Should they have done this? And about two picks later

0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and Dane's mock draft at pick forty six, he's got

0:51:56.960 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 1>in New England taking Levi on Woosery, the DT from Washington,

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:04.400
<v Speaker 1>who I would have you know, if we're just ranking,

0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm here, I would have him graded higher than moreg

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 1>And I don't dislike moreg I don't have a safety

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:15.600
<v Speaker 1>graded in the top two rounds yet this year, still working,

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:19.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, and hoping that someone does pop up there,

0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 1>but this year a little different. So for me, I'm

0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 1>fine it to pick there though. I like what Dan did.

0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I like the idea of the team actually taking the

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:29.680
<v Speaker 1>position seriously, but it picked forty four. Just looking at

0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 1>who went afterwards in this scenario and Dan's mock draft,

0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I would be going in another direction. I think this

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:39.880
<v Speaker 1>team has to address defensive tackle. I think they I

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:42.920
<v Speaker 1>think it's a big leap of faith to go Antoine Woods,

0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Tristan Hill, and the Bill Gallimore justin Hamilton. You're my guys,

0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 1>go get it, you know, and they'll try to do

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:51.799
<v Speaker 1>some things in freehency and all that stuff. But that's

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of the direction i'd be looking in this scenario.

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:57.200
<v Speaker 1>And you know, just because we're talking about this thing's

0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:58.840
<v Speaker 1>on the draft show, I wanted to pick a different

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 1>player too. No, I feel that, and I'm right there

0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:05.360
<v Speaker 1>with you. I love what Dane's thinking here with the combination,

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 1>especially if you go offense in the first round with

0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:12.000
<v Speaker 1>an offensive tackle. I love the pairing of bow Rig

0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:14.799
<v Speaker 1>playing that free safety and allowing Donovan Wilson to play

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the strong and kind of a bruiser role in dan

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Quinn's defense. I would love that and I think it'd

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 1>be a great pairing between the two. Now, the one

0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:25.359
<v Speaker 1>question I did have, Dane is the fact that there

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:28.040
<v Speaker 1>were no corners. Like you said, you could have gone

0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:30.360
<v Speaker 1>corner there, but that's still a position that has not

0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 1>been addressed in the first two rounds. I know Farley

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Sertans off the board. JC Horn from South Carolina is

0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:39.360
<v Speaker 1>not there anymore. I know Tyson Campbell from Georgia was

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:41.440
<v Speaker 1>off the board, and so was a Sante Samuel Jr.

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 1>From Florida State. But why did you go with safety

0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:47.560
<v Speaker 1>rather than corner in the secondary. Was it just the

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:49.960
<v Speaker 1>fact of a better prospect there or is there just

0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:52.719
<v Speaker 1>not as much safety or excuse me, corner depth that

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 1>would have intrigue the Cowboys to maybe spend the top

0:53:55.280 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 1>two round pick on. No. I mean, I think there's

0:53:58.239 --> 0:54:00.839
<v Speaker 1>enough corners. I think I had nine total corners going

0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 1>in the first two rounds, which is a lot. I

0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:06.680
<v Speaker 1>think there will be corners there that they'll consider. One

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:09.239
<v Speaker 1>name to keep an eye on that I think could

0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:11.120
<v Speaker 1>be in the mix for the Cowboys based off of

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:16.960
<v Speaker 1>what they do. Uh. He FATU melifon Wu. Uh, Katy,

0:54:17.120 --> 0:54:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I know you've looked at him out of Syracuse, Jeff,

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:21.880
<v Speaker 1>not sure if you have yet. Uh, just a you know,

0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:24.439
<v Speaker 1>we know about his older brother, Obie when he blew

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:26.719
<v Speaker 1>up to combine at a Yukon a couple of years

0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:30.160
<v Speaker 1>years ago. He's still floating around the league. U melifon Wu,

0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:34.560
<v Speaker 1>He's He's a big framed corner who is twitchy. Uh,

0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 1>He's fluid, He's got length, he's got speed. I think

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:43.920
<v Speaker 1>he's more reactive than instinctive. But when you have those traits, uh,

0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you know you can He's got that loose muscle twitch,

0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>he can accelerate on command. Um. You know, the instinctive

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:52.440
<v Speaker 1>part of the game is still catching up in terms

0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:55.240
<v Speaker 1>of his route recognition, finding the football, those types of things.

0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:58.239
<v Speaker 1>But there's a lot to work with with melifon Wu.

0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:01.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think that he could in play there with

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:06.279
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys second pick there. And I think keep in

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:09.080
<v Speaker 1>mind that the Cowboys met with his brother when he

0:55:09.120 --> 0:55:10.759
<v Speaker 1>was a free agent after he had been released, and

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:12.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe they met with him in the draft as well

0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:15.040
<v Speaker 1>if he was one of the visits going back. I

0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know how much time they spoi with him, but

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:19.919
<v Speaker 1>when he was a free agent looking for a job,

0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:21.839
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys brought him in for a visit, and I

0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:26.960
<v Speaker 1>remember the feedback that I had heard, and it was

0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of whispers that were getting around and media circles.

0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Was kind of like, yeah, it just feels like his brother,

0:55:32.600 --> 0:55:35.000
<v Speaker 1>ob he just doesn't care about football as much as

0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:37.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'd like, so you might have to you know,

0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:40.360
<v Speaker 1>there might be some questions that you asked about about

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:42.120
<v Speaker 1>that with this kid. But I hate saying that i'mbout

0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 1>a kid I don't even know, right, but that was

0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:47.120
<v Speaker 1>a thing with his brother, and I think that's that's

0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:50.719
<v Speaker 1>important to know. There are times when you watch the

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Syracuse tape, I like it when when the actions on

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I like it. There are times when run played at

0:55:57.480 --> 0:55:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the opposite side of the field, and you know when

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:01.759
<v Speaker 1>the white receiver to spread offense just kind of takes

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the playoff where he's kind of with the wide receiver

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:06.359
<v Speaker 1>there and he's kind of taking the playoff too. But

0:56:06.400 --> 0:56:08.919
<v Speaker 1>it's not like concerning. It's just like, Okay, there's a

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:11.480
<v Speaker 1>run play to the complete other side of the field.

0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:13.760
<v Speaker 1>And he's just kind of melded in a few times.

0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Just notice that a couple times nothing to nothing to

0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:21.520
<v Speaker 1>go freak out about. But man, you start putting one

0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:23.959
<v Speaker 1>and two together with oh, I heard some things about

0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:26.040
<v Speaker 1>us brother and it's like, well, no, he's a different

0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:28.520
<v Speaker 1>human than his brothers, so don't okay, But I still

0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:30.680
<v Speaker 1>have to think about the things, and those are stuff

0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:32.759
<v Speaker 1>that scouts are gonna do. You know, they're gonna ask

0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:35.799
<v Speaker 1>those questions. So I think that that's sometime I'm going

0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:39.040
<v Speaker 1>to be watching for with Melipon was how he interviews

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:41.399
<v Speaker 1>with teams and things like that. But his tape is good, man,

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:43.920
<v Speaker 1>his tape's great. Katie. That's one of the things I

0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:46.640
<v Speaker 1>love about you in your draft process. And Dan, you

0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:48.160
<v Speaker 1>do this quite a bit as well, of course, and

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:51.520
<v Speaker 1>all of your work, but you look really into the person.

0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:53.480
<v Speaker 1>And I know last year we had a couple of

0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:55.120
<v Speaker 1>guys like that where you were saying, oh, off the

0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:58.359
<v Speaker 1>field issues and maybe there's a character or maybe even

0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:00.400
<v Speaker 1>a drive sort of deal. And I think that's very

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:03.200
<v Speaker 1>important because that's exactly what teams are looking at, that's

0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:06.360
<v Speaker 1>what front offices are searching after. And you kind of

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:08.759
<v Speaker 1>get the background on it now, Jeff, whenever it comes

0:57:08.760 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to the Cowboys not taking a linebacker, defensive tackle, or

0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 1>corner in the first two rounds instead going with the safety,

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:17.840
<v Speaker 1>going with an offensive tackle, I know there are a

0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:20.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of holes, but those are three really really big

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<v Speaker 1>holes on that defense that aren't addressed. How much does

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<v Speaker 1>that worry you? I think the best teams know that

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<v Speaker 1>there are multiple avenues to improving your team. So like

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<v Speaker 1>in this scenario in Dan's mock, if you ever shown

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<v Speaker 1>Slater is the best player available at number ten, you

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<v Speaker 1>pick him. If you get to the second round and

0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:43.520
<v Speaker 1>your best player available is Travon Morrig, then you pick

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<v Speaker 1>him because that's also a position to need for this team,

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and then you just have to figure it out. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's and they'll do this in free agency before

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. They will sign a corner, they will probably

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<v Speaker 1>sign a safety, they will sign a d tackle. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>be capable of playing football without the draft, and then

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully you can pick your best players and you can

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<v Speaker 1>make it work. I mean, it's it's just look, this team,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what they go in the first two rounds,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't talk about what they're gonna do in

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<v Speaker 1>free agency or what they're gonna do after or trades.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't fix this defense. This defense needs at least

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<v Speaker 1>one corner, at least one safety, at least one d tackle.

0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I'd think about a linebacker, and you probably need to

0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:25.040
<v Speaker 1>double dip at one or two of those spots. So

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't even matter which routes they go. You cannot

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<v Speaker 1>fix or make a great defense out of this roster

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<v Speaker 1>in one draft. Can't do it. Yeah, Casey, No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Schreiden, It's like it's just not gonna happen. We

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<v Speaker 1>all want them to go all defense or a lot

0:58:42.640 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 1>of account offense. I think want them to go all

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<v Speaker 1>defense in Carolina. And it's also we always forget about

0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:50.680
<v Speaker 1>like not forget about it, but like we're do the

0:58:50.720 --> 0:58:52.960
<v Speaker 1>draft shows, so we're talking about the draft, but this

0:58:53.000 --> 0:58:55.640
<v Speaker 1>team doesn't. Free agency is going to be important to

0:58:55.680 --> 0:58:58.360
<v Speaker 1>their plan. They can't strike out in free agency like

0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:01.440
<v Speaker 1>they did last year. They just hand happen. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's freak bad luck with Gerald McCoy. They just

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<v Speaker 1>can't happen. And then I think that's something that well,

0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll have our eyes on because hey, it's it's our job.

0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:16.280
<v Speaker 1>We're following the team here day. Yeah, and I think

0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:17.960
<v Speaker 1>there's only so much you can do through the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they have a few extra picks on day

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, after the first two rounds, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can address some of those and it will be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting what they do in free agency that will shape

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<v Speaker 1>what they do in the draft. It'll be also interesting

0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:33.040
<v Speaker 1>to see how their board shapes up. So if they

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they can get a linebacker later on, then

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to shape how they look at linebacker in

0:59:38.440 --> 0:59:40.720
<v Speaker 1>the first two rounds. If you can get into Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>Wallow in the fourth round and they feel really good

0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:45.760
<v Speaker 1>about that, then maybe that you know, they don't really

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<v Speaker 1>strongly consider a linebacker in the first two rounds, but

0:59:49.680 --> 0:59:52.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe they don't find that linebacker. And Zaven Collins is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a guy that I've brought up before as

0:59:54.760 --> 0:59:57.800
<v Speaker 1>a guy I know they really like. So it's and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think with Zaven Collins, he and we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that Seattle defense. Okay, plug him in. He's

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<v Speaker 1>your kJ Wright and you feel good about that. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're just so many different directions they can go. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to the other points mentioned, free agency will

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<v Speaker 1>certainly shape the Hey, I'm glad you mentioned kJ right,

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<v Speaker 1>kJ Wright, also Bruce Irvin and also Richard Sherman, all

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<v Speaker 1>free agents. Just telling that out there, just damn you

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<v Speaker 1>want to make it the legion of Boom two point

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<v Speaker 1>zero down here in Dallas. Just kind of lone star

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<v Speaker 1>legion of Boom. Oh. I like that. I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds pretty legion of boomers because they're old. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's good. That's even more so. I like that the

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<v Speaker 1>legions Boomers coming to Arlington. This is fantastic. If you're

1:00:45.280 --> 1:00:47.960
<v Speaker 1>thirty five and still clinging on to an NFL career,

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<v Speaker 1>come on down to Dallas. Come on, Gerald McCoy, come on, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get a part of it. Forget the draft. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>just sign everybody in free agency. All right, that'll do

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