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Speaker 1: Killed Carol? Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: Cherry Hill, New Jersey police officer Richard Bombaar investigated the

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four murder of Carol Newlander. She was the

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Speaker 2: wife of esteemed Rabbi Fred Newlander.

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Speaker 3: And in going through the case, that came across a

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Speaker 3: photograph and it was Fred and and Jenoff standing with

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Speaker 2: Len Jenoff was a private investigator the Rabbi hired to

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Speaker 3: After Carol's death. He actually married Lend Jenoff in the

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Speaker 3: where Carol was laying when.

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Speaker 4: She was murdered.

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Speaker 2: How could Rabbi Newlander celebrate marriage in the same room

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Speaker 2: We're in cherry Hill, New Jersey today for part two

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Speaker 2: of Who Killed Carol? I'm slung glass and this is

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Speaker 2: American homicide. And just a note that this episode contained

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Speaker 2: some graphic content. Please take care while listening. Cherry Hill

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Speaker 2: lives up to its name. Every April. That's when a

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Speaker 3: It's a nice area to live in, nice area to

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Speaker 2: Richard Bumbear worked as a Cherry Hill police officer in

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Speaker 2: the nineties. Back then and even today, Cherry Hill was

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Speaker 3: Was considered a safetown to live in when we wouldn't

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Speaker 2: So you can imagine their shock following the nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: The community was just terrified. They didn't know what happened.

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Speaker 3: If it was a random act of violence and somebody

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Speaker 2: It was Cherry Hill's first homicide in years, and the victim,

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Speaker 2: Carol Newlander, was a respected mother of three who ran

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Speaker 2: Fred Newlander, were like royalty in South Jersey.

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Speaker 3: No one in a million years thought that Fred Newlander,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely no one could make sense of why Rabbi Newlander

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Speaker 3: When Fred Newlander became person of interest. It was devastating

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Speaker 2: Lenn Jenoff's been in nineteen ninety seven, about three years

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Speaker 3: Even if you had no involvement at all, none at all,

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Speaker 6: Fred was asked if he killed Carol the needles On

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Speaker 6: Polygraph experts have said that makes no difference. Either you're

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Speaker 5: He invited a woman, I think from the Philadelphia MAGAZINEA

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Speaker 4: I'm the man you love to hate.

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Speaker 2: The grand jury met for nearly a year before things

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Speaker 5: Everybody was stunned.

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Speaker 6: How could this possibly be?

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Speaker 2: The prosecutor claimed, Rabbi Newlander wanted so desperately out of

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Speaker 5: When there's a murder and there's a husband, and as

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Speaker 5: the police would very quickly discovered, this was a very

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Speaker 2: It's not as if the Jewish religion forbids divorce. There

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Speaker 2: this theory did not make any sense. He again denied

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Speaker 7: Still believe that my find has had absolutely nothing to

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Speaker 2: Len Jenoff defended the Rabbi throughout his investigation, and while

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Speaker 8: I think Ben wanted to be a more important person

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Speaker 8: That was a very very important thing in Lader of

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Speaker 2: Len and the Rabbi had a curious relationship. It was

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Speaker 8: He wanted to please the Rabbi. He was very perturbed

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Speaker 8: The Rabbi told him that that was not important. If

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Speaker 2: For the next eighteen months, Lent, the former FBI and

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Speaker 2: He even met with a local reporter to exchange notes

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Speaker 2: In the spring of two thousand, six years after the murder,

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Speaker 2: len Jenoff called this reporter with a scoop. They later

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Speaker 2: met at a Jersey diner and were joined by two

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Speaker 2: end was the absolute last thing anyone expected. Len Jenoff,

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Speaker 2: the private investigator Rabbi Newlander, hired to find his wife's killer,

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Speaker 2: confessed to killing Carol Newlander. Glenn said he was paid

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Speaker 8: I think this murder weighed heavily on his conscience, and

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Speaker 8: I think he wanted to unburden himself. Glenn did it

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Speaker 8: Len was completely under the sway of the Rabbi. Didn't

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Speaker 2: The plan was for Len Jenoff to kill Carol, but

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Speaker 2: So how did they even get into the house. Well,

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Speaker 2: it turns out Carol opened the front door. Len Jenoff

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Speaker 8: They had a very good case against the rabbi and

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Speaker 2: Even with len Jenov's confession, Rabbi Newlander denied being involved

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Speaker 8: The defense of the rabbi was that, oh no, he

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Speaker 8: But nevertheless he did it. And generally speaking, in the

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Speaker 2: In the summer of two thousand, len Jenov and his

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Speaker 2: Len Jenoff would be the prosecution star witness against Rabbi Newlander.

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Speaker 2: jury indicted Rabbi Fred Newlander for conspiracy to commit murder.

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Speaker 2: Those charges grew to capital murder following the confession of

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Speaker 4: At the time he was facing the death penalty.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Zucker was one of Rabbi Newlander's attorneys.

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Speaker 4: You can't have any more pressure than that put on you.

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Speaker 2: When the trial opened in late two thousand and one,

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Speaker 8: This is a man.

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Speaker 9: Overwhelmed by lust, greed, arrogance, and betrayal, and as a result,

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Speaker 9: of those qualities and those characteristics, he involved himself in

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Speaker 2: The Rabbi's defense denied that motion.

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Speaker 4: He could have gotten a divorce. It would be a

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Speaker 2: Jerors first heard about the rabbis years of adultery. One

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Speaker 4: Elaine Sencini, she was a radio personality who had an

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Speaker 10: We started seeing each other, I would say every two

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Speaker 2: Elaine talked about her personal life on the radio, but

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Speaker 4: We had.

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Speaker 10: Relations in his office. He told me that I was

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Speaker 2: The Rabbi was certainly a smooth operator and manipulator. He

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Speaker 10: There was one conversation where he said to me that

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Speaker 2: After months of being the other woman, Elaine decided in

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Speaker 10: I said, Fred, I don't want to see you after December.

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Speaker 10: I want to start my new life January first, nineteen

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Speaker 10: ninety five. And he would say, please, you know, hang in,

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Speaker 2: Elaine's birthday was in December and Carol Newlander was murdered

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Speaker 10: And what I said was, whatever you decide is fine.

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Speaker 10: I support you one hundred and fifty percent.

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Speaker 2: Elaine and the Rabbi slept together nearly every day, including

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Speaker 10: He called me at work and he said that he

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Speaker 2: It was a strange conversation. Still, Elaine and the Rabbi

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Speaker 10: Elaine, what you and I discovered and have comes once

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Speaker 10: in a lifetime. It is a gift God permits so infrequently.

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Speaker 10: I need you to know that I will not because

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Speaker 10: I cannot love another. Of Course I will always love you.

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Speaker 10: Of course you will always love me. I will pay

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Speaker 10: any price, wait any time to keep my promise.

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Speaker 2: The prosecution argued that promise was that the two would

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Speaker 10: And after Carol Newlander died, Fred said, I told you

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Speaker 10: to trust me. When God closes a door, he opens

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Speaker 2: The Rabbi's defense team wasn't having any of that. They

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Speaker 11: And would you describe yourself, miss Suncini, as the type

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Speaker 11: had low moral standards at that.

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Speaker 12: Time looking back on it now, yes, And didn't you

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Speaker 10: I was having a two year relationship with a married

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Speaker 4: Well, were you right Fred Newlander was going to kill you?

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Speaker 10: I was afraid that Fred Newlander might kill me, as

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Speaker 10: a matter of fact, because I didn't know what had

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Speaker 10: was somehow I'm involved too.

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Speaker 2: Then the defense went for it. They questioned how Elaine

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Speaker 11: Isn't it a fact, missus Leeth, that your now husband,

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Speaker 11: Larry Lee, was seen going through the files of the

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Speaker 10: All Larry told me was that he wanted to read

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Speaker 10: my statement to see if I was involved, if he

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Speaker 10: was getting involved with a bad woman.

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Speaker 2: After a full day's worth of testimony about the rabbi's adultery,

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Speaker 2: the prosecution then moved on to the rabbi's plan to

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Speaker 2: Peppy Levin.

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Speaker 4: Peppy Levin it was somebody that the Rabbi used to

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Speaker 4: play racket ball with.

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Speaker 2: According to the testimony you're about to hear, a few

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Speaker 2: months before Carroll's murder, the Rabbi approached him.

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Speaker 13: He says, I wish I could get rid of my

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Speaker 13: He says, do you know anybody who should get the

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Speaker 13: look out of my head? You crazy? So you are nuts?

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Speaker 13: I said, you nuts. Stay away from it. He got

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Speaker 13: a lovely wife. Stick with it.

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Speaker 2: But the defense said that Peppy couldn't be trusted. He

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Speaker 2: had a shady past that included time in federal prison

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Speaker 2: for arson, conspiracy, and tax fraw charges.

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Speaker 4: He was a very colorful, strange, wild witness.

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Speaker 2: But perhaps the strangest, wildest, and most polarizing witness was

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Speaker 2: the hit man who ultimately carried out Carroll's murder len Jenoff.

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Speaker 2: He was the prosecution star witness.

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Speaker 4: Len Jenoff was a private investigator, a person who claimed

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Speaker 4: many problems, many problems.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It turned out his biggest problem was his credibility.

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Speaker 2: This is kind of mind blowing. After years of talking

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Speaker 4: Len Jenoff was a pathological liar, So was.

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Speaker 2: He telling the truth when he confessed to killing Carol?

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Speaker 2: The prosecution star witness had a lot of explaining to do,

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Speaker 2: and it would all happen on the witness stand. Prosecutors

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Speaker 2: portrayed Rabbi Fred Nulander as a womanizer who carried on

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Speaker 7: It was the dartor stay of my life, sir. But

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Speaker 7: I took that man's promise of thirty thousand dollars. That

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Speaker 7: was from Fred J. Newlander, and I cured his wife

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Speaker 7: for that promise of thirty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: That was lenn Jenoff's testimony. He and his roommate Paul

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Speaker 2: Michael Daniels claimed to have murdered Carol Newlander on the

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Speaker 2: evening of November one, nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 4: I pulled out the leg pife, Sir, and I racked

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Speaker 7: She started to stumble, and I heard the word why why.

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Speaker 2: Those details were painful to hear, especially for Carol's relatives

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Speaker 7: Now By Newlander was adamant in telling me only take

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Speaker 7: the cash, whatever cash is in there, it could be

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Speaker 2: Len Jenoff says he did what he was told to do.

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Speaker 2: He disposed of the handbag and murder weapon in a

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Speaker 2: had the audacity to attend Carrol's memorial. That's where he

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Speaker 7: And then he kind of pulled me in for a hug,

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Speaker 7: be all right now she's dead.

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Speaker 2: Not only did len jenofv at ten Carrol's funeral, but

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Speaker 7: Of mourning, and he answered me, this manilla envelope stuck

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Speaker 7: thousand dollars in cash.

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Speaker 2: The prosecution portrayed the Rabbi as an arrogant and selfish

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Speaker 2: the defense said len Jenoff cannot be trusted.

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Speaker 4: Len Jenoff was a person that we described as a

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Speaker 2: Jeff Zucker was one of Rabbi Newlander's lawyers who untangled

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Speaker 2: len Jenoff's long string of lies.

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Speaker 4: We had so many things that we brought up to

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Speaker 2: It's true len admitted to line about being in the

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Speaker 2: FBI and CIA. In fact, most of his resume was

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Speaker 2: one giant lie, most damning. Leon admitted to lying to

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Speaker 2: the grand jury.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I was trying to protect Rabbi Newlander and myself.

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Speaker 2: The defense said the only reason Jenoff was testifying against

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Speaker 4: He made a deal for himself, obviously, so that was

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Speaker 2: But len Jenoff said he didn't act alone he paid

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Speaker 10: Did mister Jenoff tell you that's the money you got.

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Speaker 11: To say for the job came from Rabbi Newlander.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he pled guilty too, actually committing the murder.

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Speaker 2: Paul Michael Daniels was just twenty years old at the

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Speaker 2: the witness stand wasn't smooth.

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Speaker 4: Couldn't remember a lot of what happened. He basically said

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Speaker 4: him to do, but he really had mental problems.

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Speaker 2: Paul Michael Daniels was bipolar and suffered from schizophrenia and paranoia.

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Speaker 4: Claims that Jenoff got him to go to the house

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Speaker 4: to kill Carol Newlander.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you were or listening to this crazy case,

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Speaker 2: you probably wouldn't know who or what to believe at

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Speaker 2: Newlander on the witness stand was so important.

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Speaker 4: Rabbi Newlander was a tremendous orator when he spoke in

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Speaker 2: Delivering a sermon. Well, that's one thing a holy man

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Speaker 2: answering questions about his numerous affairs and an open marriage

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Speaker 14: We made a decision that if there were needs that

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Speaker 14: we would go outside the marriage.

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Speaker 4: His character was certainly called in question because of his infidelity.

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Speaker 13: Prosecutor was right.

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Speaker 14: I was selfish and arrogant, and I went beyond the

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Speaker 14: balance of marriage, and I betrayed Carol. I betrayed family,

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Speaker 14: and I betrayed community. I betrayed my synagogue, I betrayed

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Speaker 14: my profession. But divorce was never an issue.

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Speaker 15: Now as you got into the fall of nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 15: in relation to miss Nansini, did she make if you

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Speaker 15: recall references to the fact that she wished the affair

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Speaker 15: to end.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, she repeated that at the end of the year

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Speaker 14: she would have to create a new life for herself.

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Speaker 15: Did you ever tell her to trust you that something

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Speaker 15: would happen.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 15: Did you ever say anything about anything happening so that

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Speaker 15: you could be together.

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Speaker 4: With her on a birthday?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 4: I didn't.

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Speaker 15: Did you ever say something to Miss Oncini has expressed

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Speaker 15: that her testimony concerning your wishes regarding Carol, which was

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Speaker 15: proof Carol's going.

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Speaker 13: No.

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Speaker 2: He also denied the conversation with his rackup all buddy

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Speaker 2: Peppy Levin about wanting Carol dead never occurred.

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Speaker 14: I wouldn't tell Peppy if I twisted my finger. And

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Speaker 14: he was not a confidant. He just knew who Carol

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Speaker 14: was when we had socialized in that soul.

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Speaker 2: As for Lynn Jennoff, the rabbi said he never even

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Speaker 2: hired him to investigate Carol's murder. It was Lenn who

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Speaker 2: offered his services.

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Speaker 15: Did you ever agree with mister Jennoff that you wanted

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Speaker 15: to have your wife killed and then you wanted him

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Speaker 15: to do it for money?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 15: Did you ever want a divorce ever from your wife,

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Speaker 15: for Elaine Sansini or any other woman. No, as you

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Speaker 15: sit there today, sir, are you guilty or innocent?

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Speaker 14: Am innocent?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 2: It wasn't surprising. The rabbi held his own while answering

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Speaker 2: questions from his own lawyers, but things changed during cross examination.

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Speaker 2: The prosecution played sultry voicemails the rabbi left Elaine Sansini

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Speaker 2: saying he truly loved her and needed her. She's left

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Speaker 2: the rabbi, blushing.

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Speaker 14: Simply wanted the relationship to continue.

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Speaker 3: And I don't.

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Speaker 14: I can't categorize why I said what I said.

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Speaker 2: And if Lenn Jenoff lied about his past, why didn't

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Speaker 2: the Rabbi do a better job vetting him?

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Speaker 9: Didn't you want to get the very best person you

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Speaker 9: could find to investigate the murder of your wife?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 9: I did, with Letter jen Off, the very best person

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Speaker 9: you could find to do that investigation.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know.

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Speaker 9: How carefully did you look, sir? How many investigators did

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Speaker 9: you talk to and taking out mister jenneral? How many

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Speaker 9: people did you go through it together?

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Speaker 14: I didn't investigate any other didn't anybody else? No?

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Speaker 2: But something else Fred Newlander did on the witness stand

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Speaker 2: even bugged his own lawyer.

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Speaker 4: What bothered me the most when we questioned him? Or

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Speaker 4: when the prosecutor questioned him about coming home and seeing

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Speaker 4: his wife on the floor. Instead of describing his wife

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Speaker 4: as Carol, he said, I saw the body on the floor.

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Speaker 9: Hours after you found your wife. You referred to her

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Speaker 9: as the body? Correct?

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Speaker 14: Correct?

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Speaker 4: It just came across as to me as being too cold.

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Speaker 2: Here's something else that was cold. The rabbi found his

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Speaker 2: wife bloodied and beaten in their home, and he didn't

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Speaker 2: touch her, he didn't put her in his arms, he

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Speaker 2: didn't comfort her.

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Speaker 13: That's right.

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Speaker 4: I stayed away.

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Speaker 14: I saw her, and I just.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't deal with it. If a person comes in

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Speaker 4: and sees their wife bloodied on the floor, my response,

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Speaker 4: I would hope, would be to run over to my

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Speaker 4: wife and hold her and see how she is. But

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Speaker 4: there can't be a typical response to that, which is

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Speaker 4: what we argued to the jury. Nobody could possibly know

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Speaker 4: that unless they were put in that position.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's definitely true. But then came the question that

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Speaker 2: had lingered from the night of his wife's murder. Why

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Speaker 2: did Fred Newlander appear so aloof.

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Speaker 14: Well, I can tell you is said, I know how

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Speaker 14: I grieve. I usually have.

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Speaker 16: An quiet, private, not quiet, a private experience of crying

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Speaker 16: and then quickly gather it together.

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Speaker 2: Then the rabbi talked himself into trouble. He first said

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Speaker 2: he loved Elinsoncini and even wrote her a letter that

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Speaker 2: said so. But the next day, on the witness stand,

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Speaker 2: he changed his testimony.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I can say I.

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Speaker 11: Didn't love her with all the jury yesterday that it

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Speaker 11: did love her.

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Speaker 14: Correct never had any intention of continuing a relationship with her.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to maintain.

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Speaker 14: Whatever relationship we had.

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Speaker 9: You weren't lying to this jury yesterday, Where was Sir?

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Speaker 4: I gave the wrong impression. I used the wrong words.

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Speaker 4: He did not come across as a good witness. He

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Speaker 4: did not come across as a credible witness. In my opinion,

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Speaker 4: the key really was Jenoff. I was hoping for jurors

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Speaker 4: they could see through len Jenoff because he was the

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Speaker 4: cornerstone of their case.

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Speaker 2: The defense knew that len Jenoff also didn't come across

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Speaker 2: as honest, so they presented one final surprise witness, a

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Speaker 2: man who knew len Jenoff from AA meetings. Now, the

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Speaker 2: second word in AA is anonymous, So this witness broke

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Speaker 2: the pledge of anonymity and testified that to while incarcerated,

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Speaker 2: Lenjenov was working on either a book or movie deal.

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Speaker 2: But that deal wouldn't happen unless Rabbi Newlander was found guilty.

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Speaker 2: So what's really going on here? Was Fred Newlander responsible

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Speaker 2: for the death of his wife?

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Speaker 13: This is a man of God who acted in a

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Speaker 13: thoroughly ungodly fashion.

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Speaker 2: Or was Rabbi Newlander's self precorded hit man, a liar

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Speaker 2: trying to secure a movie deal.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing real about this man.

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Speaker 5: He's a liar.

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Speaker 2: I'm slow Glass. The case against Fred Newlander is about

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Speaker 2: to get a whole lot more complicated.

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Speaker 10: I understand from your note that you have reached a verdict.

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Speaker 2: Yes we have, and we'll hear the surprising conclusion in

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Speaker 2: part three of Who Killed Carol. That's next time on

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