1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: by searching apps car Booming Up America Doug Gottlieb Show, 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Hope you're having an absolutely spectacular day. 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: It's a Monday, and we're excited to have you. Excited 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: to have you in. Hey, welcome in. We got an 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: NBA game tonight. Will not be the last NBA game 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: of the year, Hey, really important. Won't be the last 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: NBA game of the year. But it's getting later early, 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: getting later early. And the Pacers they had an unbelievable 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: opportunity to put the thunder in a bad way and 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: could not do it. We'll get you ready for Game 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: five as the As the show rolls on, Rick Brooker's 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: going to join us school talk. Some NBA trades. Sub 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: Desmond Bain has been traded, Raphael Dever's been traded. The 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: US Open had uh it was complete carnage yesterday, but 20 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: did have I thought a super exciting ending, and I was, 21 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: you know, we we're gonna do love and hate at 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: top of next hour. I hate myself because I was 23 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: one hundred percent wrong on one thing regarding the US Open. 24 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: So this should be a really good show, should be 25 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: a very interesting show. Before we get to tonight's NBA, 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: let's talk about yesterday's WNB or or Saturday's WNBA. So 27 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark had well, look, she had herself a good game, 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: but more than anything, had just this thirty eight seconds 29 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: of pure basketball ecstasy right where she's coming down hitting 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: logo three after logo three, And you know, most of 31 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: this world has been put on notice because of it. 32 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: And it sparked a good conversation because now we have 33 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: tangible proof of what the American sports viewer thinks of 34 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: the WNBA without Caitlin Clark. Keep in mind that in 35 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: her first game back from injury, she has thirty two points, 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: nine assists, eight rebounds, She's seven to fourteen from three 37 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: point range, and yeah, she did have seven turnovers. She 38 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: was not perfect. She was a plus five. Her team 39 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: won by was it fourteen points? I think fourteen points, 40 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: But it sparked a bigger conversation because the ratings were 41 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: less than half of what they are with her once 42 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: she was out. Here's Caitlin Clark talking about that thirty 43 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: eight seconds where she that she had late in the 44 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: first quarter that broke the internet. 45 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: I took one in transition. That's kind of like where 46 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: I like to get to early and it's always good 47 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: to see the ball go through the hoop. And then 48 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: I came down and shot another one. Then I came 49 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: down and shot another one and saw three in a 50 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: row go in, So that gives you a lot of confidence. 51 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: Here's her head coach four point Guardner and writes Stephanie 52 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: White talking about having Clark back. 53 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: Well, don't we always expect that kind of game from Caitlin. 54 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 3: I knew her adrenaline was going to be high to start. 55 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: I mean, she's been itching to get back out there. 56 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: She carried us in the first half, and then everybody 57 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: else carried us in the second half. And I thought 58 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: her decision making was great, outstanding, especially that last four 59 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 3: minute stretch or whatever it was that she was on 60 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: the floor, did a really good job of getting everybody involved. 61 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: And that's what she does. 62 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is what she does. That is what she does. Okay, 63 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: So there's a woman named Rachel Demita. Rachel, I believe 64 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: she's a former basketball player. She's like an influencer. She 65 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: played at Old Dominion. Didn't play with Old Minion. The 66 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: band I like, played at Old Dominion, which is a school. 67 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: I think they're in the Colonial. I don't know anyway. 68 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: Her husband is Andre Robertson, who's formerly played for the Thunder, 69 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: had a bad knee injury, then played overseas. So she's influencer. 70 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: She had a podcast, She has a podcast, and I 71 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: think she libels herself as a WNBA reporter. I think 72 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: with CBS Sports. I'm not sure. Anyway, here's Rachel Demita 73 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: trying to explain from her perspective while there were drops 74 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: while Kaitlyn Clark was out. 75 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 4: I hope you guys don't mind. But the news was 76 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 4: just announced that WNBA TV ratings are down more than 77 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 4: fifty percent since Kaitlin Clark's injury, and it was also 78 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: reported that the Indiana Fever television viewership is also down 79 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: over fifty three percent. A lot of people stopped watching 80 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: because they are boycotting the WNBA. They don't want to 81 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: give viewership to any other teams or any other players, 82 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: whether they like other players on the team or not, 83 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 4: because of how the media and the league itself has 84 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: handled Kaitlin Clark, how they have treated her fans. 85 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of a new one to me. 86 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: I had anybody heard about that previously. I mean, usually 87 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: when you do a boycott and it picks up steam 88 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: and it affects ratings this greatly, one would I just 89 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: one would think one would think that that boycott would 90 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: be one that we knew about or heard about. Right, 91 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: That's that's what That's what people, anybody, I think reasonably 92 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: would think. But Rachel to me to acting like, well, 93 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: that's the reason the ratings are down. No, we like 94 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: watching her play, period. We don't like or relate to, 95 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 1: or have a desire to watch most anybody else play. 96 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: The ratings that are left, that's your classic w NBA 97 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: core base that has been there probably for twenty five 98 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: years and has grown in incremental pieces over time. But 99 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: the fifty percent that you lost, that's the Caitlin Clark effect. Period. 100 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: Stop and until you just go okay, start there, until 101 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: you start at that very point where you realize, okay, 102 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: fifty percent of the people are only watching to see 103 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: basically what she did Saturday. Then you can properly market 104 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: what you have as a sports league, and you know 105 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: it's it's fascinating. I'm a basketball guy. I played high 106 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: school basketball, I played college basketball, I played professional basketball. 107 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: I've covered it, I now coach it. It's very much 108 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: part of who I am as a person. Hey, my 109 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: dad was a high school coach, became college coach, became 110 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: AU coach, travel ball coach, and mentored so many And 111 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: I would just tell you that, like when you grew 112 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: up in a basketball family, the WNBA has struggled for 113 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: a long time. But I don't know how many times 114 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: you have to say this. People only care about Caitlin 115 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: and the thing that I find to be when I 116 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: watch the game, when I watch how she walks, how 117 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: she carries herself was this year is what we hoped 118 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: she would be last year. And I would also tell 119 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: you that I think the best thing that happened to 120 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: her is one not getting selected to the Olympic team 121 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: last year and probably getting injured this year because what 122 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: she has to deal with, and when I say deal with, 123 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: maybe that's not the right term. What she endures on 124 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: a daily basis. I don't care about the constant scrutiny. 125 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: It's just a lot of attention. And she went from 126 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: playing college ball to play in the WNBA and probably 127 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: needed a break and need to recalibrate her game. And 128 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: now that she's reached calibated her game and it fits 129 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more of the WNBA model. Last year 130 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: she was square peg, round hole. This year it's round, 131 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: round peg, round hole, and she's different, She's dominant, She's 132 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: taken another step. The most improving you make in college 133 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: is freshman is sophomore year offseason. The most improving you 134 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: make as a professionalist between your first and your second year. 135 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: Because you don't know what you don't know. You don't 136 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: know how to train, you don't know how you travel, 137 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: you don't know how you eat, you don't know how 138 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: your team it's gonna treat you, how the refts are 139 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: gonna treat you, how the opponent's gonna treat you. And 140 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: then in year two, you know all these things, they 141 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: become easier and then you become the better because of it. 142 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: I mean this when I say this, Like Caitlin Clark 143 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: was one of those. She had other worldly talent, and 144 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: she had what the kids call aura last year, and 145 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: there was some substance, but it was a lot of 146 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: she's going to be great. She's not great yet, but 147 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: she's it's going to be great now. She's great now, 148 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: She's great shooting percentages, confidence, knowledge of where to get 149 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: in the court, how to avoid get herself out of trouble, 150 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: not get herself in a foul trouble, how to communicate 151 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: with teammates, and honestly for the fever, what coach to 152 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: put around her, with players to put around her. It's 153 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: all going to be better in year two because you're one. 154 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: You just don't know what you don't know? You know, 155 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: all right, stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. 156 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: Well go ahead, Dan, I'm sorry. 157 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 5: No, that's okay. 158 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 6: I just wanted to just add something in because I'm 159 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 6: curious on your thoughts about this. I think it was 160 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 6: the most important WNBA game she's played in her career. 161 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 6: And the reason I say that is a lot of 162 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 6: what you said is this leap from year one to 163 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 6: leap to year two in what she's done in the 164 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 6: you now know what you didn't know previously, And it 165 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 6: was one of the questions that I had about the 166 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 6: Caitlin Clark on would this rise continue, would would the 167 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 6: league be able to catch up at all? And obviously 168 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 6: they haven't, but to be able to come in make 169 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 6: a viral moment in a ninety second span upon her 170 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 6: return against the defending WNBA champions who were unbeaten to 171 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 6: that point. Like, there will be games later on in 172 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 6: her career that she plays and playoff games that will 173 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 6: be more important, but I think to this point this 174 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 6: was the most important game that she played in her 175 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 6: career because of everything you kind of laid out in 176 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 6: the first eleven minutes. 177 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: Sure, sure, I'm okay with that most important in WNBA career. 178 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: Like it sounds a little strong when it comes out 179 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: of your mouth, and then you go back and you 180 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: track it and you're like, I'm up, I'll buy that. 181 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: I'll buy that. I mean, I think there was a 182 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: little bit when she came when they came off the 183 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: Olympic break too. I thought that was important. But I 184 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: don't know if there was one individual game that was 185 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: as big as this, right, and then again, like if 186 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: you're a if you're a hater, a naysayer, and she 187 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: doesn't play well, or she doesn't play after going to 188 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: several of the Pacers' finals games, you know, like, oh, 189 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: well she's good enough to go to the but she's 190 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: not good at the play and blah blah blah blah blah. 191 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think when I initially heard you say that, 192 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: it sounded like hyperbole, and then when you supported it, 193 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: I started to think about it. 194 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 5: I don't think you're wrong, and there will be bigger games. 195 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: But yeah, right, you're just talking to this point up 196 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: up until this point, Sabby, what'd you think? I know, 197 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: you're you're a kind of resident Caitlin Clark beat reporter. 198 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean this. There will be bigger games, 199 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 7: but this one was huge because remember they lost the 200 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 7: Liberty at home by two, and then then she had 201 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 7: to exit for several games because of her injury. So 202 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 7: she comes back the Liberty are still undefeated and then 203 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 7: they end up winning by fourteen, and she just puts 204 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 7: on this amazing first half show. It was coming back 205 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 7: from the injury. It's spot as good of a game 206 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 7: to play that you could hope for. 207 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: Fair enough, Stug Gotlieb Show, This is Fox Sports Radio. 208 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: You're ready for a new job. Let express Employment professionals help, 209 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: while Express helps people in all industries fine work. Our 210 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: sweet spot is logistics roles and Express never charges job seekers. 211 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: If you go to expresspros dot com, here's all you 212 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: need to know about the Kidd and Clark effect. Right, 213 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: this is it, This is it kind of in a nutshell, 214 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: Jay Stu, how old are you? You're fifty two now, 215 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: fifty two? Fifty fifty two? 216 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 8: Right, I'm twenty two years old, fifty two year old 217 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 8: white male. 218 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: Fifty two year old white mail. It's a Saturday afternoon 219 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: in the summer in southern California. How is the weather Saturday? 220 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 8: Oh, it's a little too hot for me up in 221 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 8: Santa Coarita. But it was one of those typical southern 222 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 8: California June sunny days. 223 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: Just a perfect day, chamber of commerce day as they 224 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: caught in someplace. 225 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 8: Lots of options outside. What were you doing in my 226 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 8: air conditioning living room on my couch watching every second 227 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 8: of the Caitlin Clark game. God bless Sam for caring 228 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 8: if the fever won or not. I never care about that. 229 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 8: There was thirty eight seconds of her making those threes 230 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 8: where I literally stood up and fist pumped a grown 231 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 8: man fist pumping on my couch on a sunny Saturday. 232 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 8: That is why I tuned in to kitln Clark and 233 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 8: I think of what And it didn't take long until 234 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 8: you started to see it on social media. Everyone started reposting, 235 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 8: is this is the unicorn? This is what we tune 236 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 8: in for? It really was fun. 237 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't send any better. Right, the fact that on 238 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: a Saturday afternoon, when you have baseball options, outdoor options, 239 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: Lake Beach Hike. 240 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 5: We missed the Oakmont as well. What a third round? 241 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: It was us open taking place, just pure carnage there 242 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: all these other things going on. He's watching the WNBA 243 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: game two teams that I mean, couldn't pick everybody else 244 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: on the team out of a lineup, right If they 245 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: were sitting next to him on his couch and they 246 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: said their WNBA players, you'd be like, Okay, that's the 247 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: power of what she's doing. 248 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 9: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 249 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 9: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 250 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 9: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 251 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: It's The Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So the 252 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: Pacers were up big and Oklahoma City comes back and 253 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: wins the game. Late in the game, there's several calls 254 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: at first half. I thought some calls went against the 255 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers despite the fact they were at home. Late 256 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: in the game, Shake Gildess Alexander makes it beautiful fade 257 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: away in the left baseline and if you watch the 258 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: replay right, looks like he pushed off, looks like he traveled. 259 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: There was no call. Of course, Scott Foster's on the game, 260 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: but he calls Scott Foster the extender, the extender, and 261 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: he's one of the few NBA officials who everybody knows 262 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: his name. He's got a lot of heat, especially on 263 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: social media because Oklahoma City won because there were a 264 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: couple of missed calls. Here's he's Here's head coach Rick 265 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: Carlisle on Scott Foster. 266 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 10: I think it's awful what some of the things I've 267 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 10: seen about about the officiating and Scott Foster in particular. 268 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 10: I know Scott Foster for thirty years. He's a great official. 269 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 10: He's done a great job in his playoffs. We've had 270 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 10: him a lot of times, and the ridiculous scrutiny that's 271 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 10: being thrown out there is terrible. An unfair and unjust 272 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 10: and stupid agree. 273 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: I agree, and I just I'm not going to make 274 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: it a habit of calling out people in media who 275 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm friends with or friendly with, but I think those 276 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: are the people that it looks the worst for. It 277 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: just does you know, It's like you're in order for 278 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: that level of conspiracy to take place, too many people 279 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: would have to know, and all it takes is one person, 280 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: one person to know what they're not supposed to know, 281 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: and the entire league is cooked. So no, there is 282 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: no grand conspiracy. There is no way of setting you know, 283 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: there's not some way which Adam Silver guarantees that it 284 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: will go a certain number of games. That simply is 285 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: not true. And anyone who says otherwise is just making 286 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: up things because it's really easy to make up things 287 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: in the media and in social media these days, way easier. 288 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: It's harder to hide, easier to make things up. So 289 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that he's a perfect official. It doesn't 290 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: mean it was a perfectly officiated game. 291 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 5: Oh yeah. 292 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: By the way, Ben Mathen, who had an unbelievable game 293 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: in Game three, he missed two gigantic free throws. I 294 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: think he missed three or four down the stretch. I 295 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: know he missed two gigantic free throws under two minutes 296 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: to go. So what are we actually doing here? We're 297 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: acting like Scott Foster is the reason that Oklahoma City 298 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: won the game. Pacers misshots, missed free throws and couldn't 299 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: and when they had a lead, they couldn't keep their 300 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: foot on the throat of the Oklahoma City thunder. That's 301 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: the story. And this is somebody who has no I 302 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: don't even have to support, have no dog in the fight. 303 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: Watch basketball, no basketball. Didn't like a couple of no calls, 304 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna sit there and go they were 305 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: cheating calls. That's bull for people who say it, especially 306 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: people who work in the media. But this is also 307 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: just another reason why you can't pay attention to social 308 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: media because people just don't know what They just don't know. 309 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: Rick Buker join us ask his opinion around the corner. First, Uh, 310 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: let's get my man Dan Byron here. Get a quick 311 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: update Dan, anybody got Doug. 312 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 6: In addition to tonight's Game five, Sham's just reported that 313 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 6: apparently ABC has listened they will have starting lineups this 314 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 6: part of the broadcast tonight. However, in the tweet to announce. 315 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 11: It, it was specifically stated that it's the first time since 316 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 11: twenty thirteen in the NBA Finals that the starting lineups 317 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 11: will be a part of the pregame broadcast for tonight's 318 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 11: Game five tip off tonight eight thirty Eastern Time from 319 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 11: Oklahoma City. 320 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 5: Following a report over the weekend, Yes. 321 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: Yes, classic like social media where you get somebody who 322 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: hasn't paid attention. I love that, Adam Silver said, like 323 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 1: they were people were talking about like, hey, whatever happened 324 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: to those Larry O'Brien. I mean, what's the trophies, Lario branhrossing, Yeah, 325 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: the Larry O'Brien Trophy is like, yeah, we haven't had 326 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: those in like a decade. Because the stickers people slip 327 00:18:59,280 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: on the stickers. 328 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I thinyd the mid court sticker like I could 329 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 6: not stand it. And they only did it for a 330 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 6: couple of finals. It was just more of not having 331 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 6: any signis whatsoever on the court, like even you know, 332 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 6: near the mid court stripe or anything, but anyway. 333 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: Matter, I mean, look, and so they super imposed and 334 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: people freaking out about being superimposed. It's like, yeah, hey, 335 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: I'll just I just go ahead. 336 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 6: I'll just say this. You have three different courts, four 337 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 6: different courts during the regular season. Why can't you make 338 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 6: a specific finals court? 339 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: Right? 340 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 9: You mean you don't need to. 341 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: Make a finals court. They come in segments. All you 342 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: gotta do is take it exactly, paint that segment. It's 343 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 1: the Doug Gottlieb Show, It's Fox Sports Radio. It's Monday. Uh, 344 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: it's that Tonight is going to be Game five of 345 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. Who better to catch up with than 346 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: Rick Buker from Fox Sports one and Fox Sports dot 347 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: Com covering all things NBA. Buke, there's there's you know, 348 00:19:55,320 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: social media works and really all forms of me. When 349 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 1: you have a Scott Foster official in the game and 350 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: what some feel like or questionable calls at the end 351 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: of a game, you get all kinds of conspiracy theories. 352 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: What's your take on the end of Game four? 353 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 12: I thought there were mistakes made by Indiana in the 354 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 12: final two minutes and forty one seconds. I'm certainly not 355 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 12: going to put what transpired there on Scott Foster. I 356 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 12: thought that the Pacers did get a tough whistle in 357 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 12: the first half, and Rick Carlisle apparently feeling like comfortable 358 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 12: with the score maybe and thinking I may need my 359 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 12: challenges later, this is probably going to be a close game. 360 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 12: Opted not to challenge any of. 361 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 13: Them, you know. 362 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 12: The only one, the only debatable one was in the 363 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 12: final minutes that I could see was the shot by 364 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 12: Shake Gildes Alexander that gave Oklahoma City its first second 365 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 12: half lead. But based on the liberal interpretation of what 366 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 12: a gather step is and how loose they are in 367 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 12: calling step backs, I don't I don't know that he 368 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 12: would have won that. I would have liked to have 369 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 12: seen him challenge that and seen where it would have gone. 370 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 12: But other than that, my feeling was that the Pacers 371 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 12: were victims of their own hands. They made far too 372 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 12: many mistakes. Their execution wasn't good. They reached in too 373 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 12: many situations. Look, the referees demonstrated, let's let you know 374 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 12: how they were going to call it early on, and 375 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 12: I don't know that the Pacers adjusted and took that 376 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 12: into account in terms of how they played. So I'm 377 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 12: not going to I'm not going to put this on 378 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 12: Scott Foster. I thought it was a tough whistle early on. 379 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 12: I thought there were a number of plays. Number of 380 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 12: calls that and looking at them at replay clearly went 381 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 12: the wrong way. But that's why you have challenges, and 382 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 12: certainly that's not where the game was decided. I thought 383 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 12: the game was decided in the third quarter. Actually at 384 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 12: the end of the third quarter, when the Pacers led, 385 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 12: had their biggest lead by ten, had an opportunity should have, 386 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 12: I believe, should have expanded it to sixteen or eighteen 387 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 12: at that point and made it really difficult for Oklahoma 388 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 12: City to mount a fourth quarter comeback. And Carlisle had 389 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 12: a gas Obie topping and what appeared to be a 390 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 12: gas Pascal Siakam and an ineffective TJ. McConnell and an 391 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 12: ineffective Andrew Nemhart, and he didn't make any changes. He 392 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 12: wrote it to the end, and they scored one point 393 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 12: in the final two minutes. Instead of it being seventeen, 394 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 12: it was seven. And you just got the feeling like 395 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 12: the thunder, felt like they dodged a bullet. 396 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: Yep, I agree, you got I got a step on 397 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: him when he got him down, and yeah, I thought 398 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: he traveled. I thought he pushed off. But again, well 399 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: we've seen enough of those not be called you know, 400 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: and we've seen enough not be called to understand probably 401 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: why they weren't called. And look, you miss Ben Mather 402 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: and missed two free throws too. I mean, you can't 403 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: understand that he. 404 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 12: Missed three or four. Yeah, in three or four And 405 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 12: even like in the final with seven seconds left, he 406 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 12: could have fouled new Door and and didn't, and the 407 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 12: ball swings to Shay and and and them hart uh 408 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 12: and then is forced to foul him. And I look, 409 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 12: the game was probably out of reach at that point 410 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 12: because you had two fouls on on on inbounds plays 411 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 12: where okay, so you got free throws and and possession 412 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 12: of the ball. So the game was already decided. But 413 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 12: that was just a microcosm for me of the little 414 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 12: mistakes that Indiana made. I just got the overall sense, 415 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 12: whether it was from Rick Carlisle or the Pacers, that 416 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 12: they've felt like, oh, we've got this, we got them, 417 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 12: and didn't show enough respect for the fact that the 418 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 12: Oklahoma City Thunder were a sixty eight win team and 419 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 12: that if you had an opportunity to put them in 420 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 12: a deep hole, you needed to do it rather than 421 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 12: think that, you know what, we're just gonna as we have, 422 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 12: as we've proven we're the better executing team in the 423 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 12: final minutes, they decided to play that game, and and 424 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 12: when you don't fully respect an opponent, you often you 425 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 12: often pay the price. The only other other call that 426 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 12: I looked at that that would suss and I didn't 427 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 12: see it in real time the replay was the turnover 428 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 12: by Halliburton where it looked like Dork gave him a 429 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 12: shove in order to get the ball. That's the only 430 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 12: other other other whistle that I saw where I was thinking, Okay, 431 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 12: they missed one in the final minutes. 432 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: Stet Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, what do 433 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: you make of the Desmond Bane. 434 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 12: Try that The Orlando Magic are looking at it and saying, 435 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 12: we've we've got a crazy number of first round picks 436 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 12: and we want to go for it now. We think 437 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 12: we're we think we're one player away from from making 438 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 12: this happen, and we need to kind of clear up 439 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 12: our almost an embarrassment of riches. I was surprised at 440 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 12: the number of picks, to be honest with you, unprotected 441 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 12: first round picks. But I think the way they're looking 442 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 12: at it is, you know what we expect to be 443 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 12: really good. And we look at the UH and and 444 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 12: and therefore, you know, how good are those picks going 445 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 12: to be? And uh and the and the Eastern Conference 446 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 12: is wide open, like nobody knows what the Boston Celtics 447 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 12: are going to be. Nobody's buying the Milwaukee Bucks right now. 448 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 12: Philadelphia seventy six ers, I mean, go down the line. 449 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 12: I think they're looking at it and looking at how 450 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 12: how how they've played the last year two and are saying, 451 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 12: you know, the one thing that we're missing, the big 452 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 12: one thing that we're missing is three point shooting, and 453 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 12: Desmond Bane can certainly give us that and gives us 454 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 12: a very tough physical backcourt between jal And Suggs and 455 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 12: Desmond Bane. And so I think they just decided, you know, 456 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 12: we're going to go for it because at this point 457 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 12: we have a bunch of young players, like we can't 458 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 12: all the picks that we have, We're not going to 459 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 12: be able to utilize them all. So I think they 460 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 12: probably gave almost practically gave away a couple in this case. 461 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: Uh, where are we with Kevin Durant in regards to 462 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: the likelihood of him being traded and destinations. 463 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 12: Well, the interesting you know, the report is that Houston, 464 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 12: San Antonio, and Miami Heat are his preferred destinations. As 465 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 12: we know with star players, they generally picking from the 466 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 12: teams that they want to go to, and so you 467 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 12: know who can make the best deal or how much 468 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 12: that he directs like I want to go to this 469 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 12: particular place. I mean, it really comes down to if 470 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 12: it's those three, both Houston and San Antonio can make 471 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 12: better offers for KD than than than Miami at this point. 472 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 12: That said, at least as starter kits for what Phoenix is, 473 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 12: I assume is looking to rebuild. That said, I believe 474 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 12: that the best place for KD would be among those 475 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 12: three teams would be Miami. The absolute best place would 476 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 12: be for me would be Denver, and I'd be willing 477 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 12: to move Jamal Murray in order to make that happen. 478 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 12: And I would sell Phoenix on the idea that we're 479 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 12: going to give you the point guard you guys have 480 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 12: been looking for since Chris Paul left town, and and 481 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 12: the money that Jamal is making comes close to what 482 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 12: KD is that it wouldn't be a one for one, 483 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 12: but it could be fairly close. And I love the 484 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 12: idea of Aaron Gordon, Nikola, Jokic and k d as 485 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:23,719 Speaker 12: being the core of my Denver team. I think if 486 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 12: they had that core, I put them right there as 487 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 12: being capable of playing with anybody in the West, and 488 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 12: I probably favor them regardless of what Oklahoma City does 489 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 12: in the next week. 490 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: Wow, Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, that's 491 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: the voice of Rick Buker New York Knicks head coaching 492 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: job still reports that Jason Kidd is the guy, but 493 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: they continue to get turned down, and then of course 494 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: the internet has fun with it. You know that the 495 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: Bucks offered up Doc Rivers, only the Knicks refused this time. 496 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: Like you've heard all of those what's the reality to 497 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: where they are in their head coaching search? 498 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 12: I mean, they're they're they're searching for an answer right now. 499 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 12: I do believe that while the Jason Kidd thing was 500 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 12: turned down, I would not be surprised if we end 501 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 12: up revisiting that. It really comes down to. And I 502 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 12: haven't had a chance to talk to Jason or anybody 503 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 12: in his camp yet. 504 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 13: But I I could see where he pushes the needle 505 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 13: and tries to make make that tries to reopen that 506 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 13: from his end, because it wasn't Jason Kidd rejecting the request, 507 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 13: it was the Dallas Maverick saying we're not going to 508 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 13: let you talk to our guy. And uh, and then 509 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 13: it comes down to are they willing willing to give 510 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 13: up a pick or is Dallas posturing in order if 511 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 13: we do give him up, then you're gonna have to 512 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 13: give us a little bit more than than maybe was 513 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 13: originally a thought. 514 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 12: So that's where I would expect I would expect that 515 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 12: to go. But look, Uh, every DM that I've ever 516 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 12: talked to always has a list in his pocket of 517 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 12: the head coaches that he would hire if he could, 518 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 12: his wish list. And it's regardless of whether he has 519 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 12: a coach that he likes at the time or not. 520 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 12: They always have that. And the way the Knicks have 521 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 12: approached this would make you think that they that they 522 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 12: didn't have a wish list like that, because even if 523 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 12: you look at the guys that they've supposedly requested interviews from, 524 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 12: they're all different. They're all they like, they're just across 525 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 12: the board. They don't make a whole lot of sense 526 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 12: for what the New York Knicks have and where they are, 527 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 12: So it's hard to predict what they're doing when one 528 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 12: you don't we've got multiple people in the front office 529 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 12: that put out information, you don't know which one to trust. 530 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 12: And two, the proof is in the way they've approached this, 531 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 12: which is a scattergun approach. It just does not fit 532 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 12: with every other coaching search that I've seen. Look, I 533 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 12: thought from the very beginning, if you're the first place 534 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 12: I would go is Taylor Jenkins. So I think he 535 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 12: got the short stick in Memphis, and I think he 536 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 12: demonstrated that with the scoring point guard. He knows how 537 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 12: to run a team like that, and I know that 538 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 12: he had the respect of his players until the front 539 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 12: office undercut him and brought in some assistant coaches to 540 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 12: run the kind of offense that the front office thought 541 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 12: that they should run. That's the first place that I 542 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 12: would have gone, And maybe the second would have been 543 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 12: not Chris Finch to the Minnesota Timberwolves for his assistant coach, 544 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 12: Michael Nori because Norrie, because we've got a chance to 545 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 12: see him coach that team in the playoffs, and I 546 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 12: think that from what I know about his personality, I 547 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 12: think he'd be able to handle the New York market. 548 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 12: Those would have been the first two places that I 549 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 12: would have gone, and not in an array of coaches 550 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 12: who have current jobs and you have to get permission 551 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 12: from their teams in order to just talk to them. 552 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: Awesome stuff. Buke, that's Rick Bucker. You see him on 553 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: Fox Sports one. You're you just work at Fox Sports 554 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: dot com. You hear him weekly here on the Doug 555 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show. Buke outstanding. Enjoy the game tonight. We will 556 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: talk soon. Thanks for our guests. You got it all right. 557 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: For forty years, Tyrek has been helping customers find the 558 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: right tires for how, what and where they drive. Ship 559 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: fast and free and back by free road protection with 560 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: convenience installation options like Mulbile tire installation tyreq dot com. 561 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: It's the way tire buying should be. 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I guarantee that there's some 576 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: love and some hate from Dan Byer regarding the US Open. 577 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: I wonder which side he'll take or he'll take both sides. 578 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: But before we get to any of that, you know 579 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: we should do, let's get to Game Time with Dan Live. 580 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 9: This is Game Time game on the Doug Gottlieb Show, 581 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 9: So you. 582 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: Can stream this show and all of our Fox Sports 583 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: Radio shows live. Twenty four seven the new improved iHeartRadio Dan, Sorry, 584 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: that's right, okay, And one of the newest features the 585 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: app is your ability to select Fox Sports Radio is 586 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: one of your presets, just like the preset in the 587 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: radio Dow preset Fox Sports Radio iHeart Radio app and 588 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: you always pop up on top of your stream. Dann 589 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: what he got? 590 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, I wanted to tell you about the preset option, 591 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 6: but you took it, took care of it yourself. 592 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 9: Today is big deal, little deal, no deal. 593 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 6: Big deal, little deal or no deal? Doug that Kevin 594 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 6: Durant doesn't want to go to Minnesota. This was a 595 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 6: report today from Shams on the heels of him narrowing 596 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 6: his finalists down to apparently three teams, but previously there 597 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 6: were five teams mentioned one of those Minnesota. Minnesota not 598 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 6: one of the final three, and Sham says that Katie 599 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 6: has no desire to go to the Twin Cities. 600 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 5: Big deal, little dealer, no deal, big deal. 601 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: Big deal, big dealer. 602 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 10: Uh. 603 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a little deal, right, I think it's 604 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: a little deal. I don't know why the Twin Cities is. 605 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: Do people think they're Kevin Durant away? They need another score? 606 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily. I mean, look, would he help them? 607 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: I think he would, But I also think that Mike 608 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: Conley may be over the hill and they need better 609 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: point guard, play better guys to play off the ant man. 610 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I think the idea that Minnesota 611 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: because their clothes has to add a piece, I don't Yeah, 612 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: A little deal. 613 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 6: All right, big deal, little deal or no deal, that 614 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 6: we don't have a firm word on Giannis's future in Milwaukee. 615 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say little deal if Milwaukee knows and they're 616 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: shopping him, great job by them by not letting it 617 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: out there. And this is kind of part for the 618 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: course with Giannis where he doesn't appear to be a 619 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: drama guy. So either he's told them he didn't want 620 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: to go into and he's there for whatever they got 621 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: to do, rebuilding with a little it out for however 622 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: long he's out for, or they're gonna move him. But 623 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: I just I gotta think this all tracks because he's 624 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: not drama, They're not drama. And not hearing anything definitive 625 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: is a great way to run a business. It's just 626 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: bad for us as consumers of that news. 627 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 6: Big deal, little deal or no deal, that the Knicks 628 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 6: deal don't have a coach, But what you talked about 629 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 6: with Rick Buker. 630 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: Little deal, don't think it matters right now, get the 631 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: right coach. Don't just get a coach you haven't drafted yet. 632 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: The draft is not going to change this little deal, all. 633 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 6: Right, Big deal, little deal or no deal that ABC 634 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 6: Willer are the starting lineup intros tonight prior to Game five. 635 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: I think it's a big deal. 636 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 10: You know. 637 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: You know they use all of these moments, which is 638 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: an in arena moment to have more ads and some more, 639 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 1: but you do miss some of the traditional starting laps, 640 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: like I don't know if you did this when you 641 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: were a kid. Did you ever do the introductions and 642 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: introduce yourself when you're playing, oh little kid? Yes, somehow 643 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: that's gone away now. Part of it is all of 644 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: the intros are completely over the top, right, and they 645 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 1: have video shows and laser shows whatever. I think it's cool, 646 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's a gigantic I'll go a 647 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: little deal. Don't think it's check. 648 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 5: Out all right? 649 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 6: Finally, big deal, little deal or no deal that sho 650 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 6: hey Otani will pitch tonight for the first time BEG 651 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 6: since twenty twenty three, BEG huge. 652 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: He was an elite pitcher. Second time he's had Tommy 653 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: John surgery. You know, he's working towards potentially being ready 654 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: late postseason. Last year. Miss is big, I mean as 655 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: good a hitters he is. He's close as a picture, 656 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: or he was before he heard his elbow a second time. 657 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: And that is game time. 658 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 10: Game. 659 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 9: This is game time on The Doug gott Leaf Show. 660 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: It's to the Doug Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. What 661 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: did you love from the weekend? What did you hate 662 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: from the weekend? Remember golf, softball, baseball, basketball, football in it. 663 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: Next The Doug Gottlieb Show.