1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Third hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Get kicked off right now, and thank you for being 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: with us eight D two two two eight eight two 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: on those phone lines. Take some calls back of this hour. 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: It's interesting we've talked about the student loans, and Clay 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: pointing out to me just now that there's a little 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: gonna pushback even from Democrats, especially Democrats who are in 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: some maybe tight reelection battles coming up here or who 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: are running in tight races about whether this student loan 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: ideas even good politics for Democrats. Put aside the whether 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: it's constitutional, all the stuff which we talked about in 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: the first hour, which I think we've laid out pretty well, 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: so we might go back into that in a few 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: moments here, but we just said doctor Marty McCarry on, 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: and effectively, this is a moment where Clay and I 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: can say, and all of you who listened to us 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: and agree have agreed with us now for over a 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: year on this issue, can say, I told you so, 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: libbs about all this COVID stuff and how accountability is 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: so very important going into this midterm election because Democrats 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: took power into their hands, made decisions abused, not only 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: abused science, but I would say very directly abused the Constitution. 23 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: I mean, remember the Bide administration had a federal vaccine 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: mandate that they tried to get going with the Supreme 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: Court step again and saying you can't actually do that 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: to people. Guys, that's a reason to vote against. Honestly, 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: vote against any Democrat down the whole ticket. No Democrat 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: who supports any of that, which is all of them, 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: deserves to be elected or reelected. But on the crime issue, Clay, 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: we keep coming back to this. We're seeing stories that 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: certainly indicate how violent, how dangerous a lot of cities 32 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: have become, and it's happened the last few years, but 33 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: the numbers are staggering. We see happening across the country 34 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: is just horrific. The number of shootings that have happened. 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: We have Philadelphia on track for after last year, the 36 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: most murders in the history of the city. It is 37 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: how crazy that is for a city like Philadelphia to 38 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: be setting all time records right now. Yeah, it's it's 39 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: just unbelievable. And they're going to have an all time 40 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: record year for murders this year. Remember, very progressive far left, prosecutor. 41 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: You have similar numbers in a lot of other cities 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: Portland where we're on a great station k EX in Portland, 43 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: and we really appreciate all of our Portland folks tuning in. 44 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: A lot of them are and we had them calling 45 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: before Portland area residents right, they live outside the city 46 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: because then the city has been turned the Pacific Northwest. 47 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: I've said this before. I know you Greek Clay. It's 48 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: one of the most beautiful parts of the country. And 49 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: Seattle and Portland should be beautiful parts of the world. Yeah, 50 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: it's amazing. Seattle and Portland should be jewel cities of 51 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: this kin. People should be just. And San Francisco was 52 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: look at this, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland huge problems. Portland 53 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: could surpass last year's shootings at Clay. What was it? 54 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: It's up. Murders in Portland, homicides in Portland are up. 55 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking. I got it right here directly in front 56 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: of me. Buck a huge article in the Wall Street Journal. 57 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: I was reading it over the weekend. They averaged in Portland, 58 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: Buck between two thousand and two thousand, nineteen twenty one 59 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: murders a year. Firstually, I mean, look, could happened, but 60 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: it was almost unheard of for the first twenty years 61 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: of the twenty first century. Last year, Buck, they had 62 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: eighty eight murders in Portland, over a quadruple ing first 63 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: nineteen years, almost unheard of for a murder to happen. 64 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's any city in America that 65 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: has quadrupled its murder total in the last couple of 66 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: years like Portland has. And for the most part, this 67 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: is Wallster Journal article, Wall Street Journal best newspaper in America, 68 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: and there's not a close second. Right now, by the way, 69 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal eighty eight murders in twenty twenty one. 70 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: They're on track for another massive increase over the historical 71 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: averages in twenty twenty two. We saw it in twenty twenty. 72 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: This is insanity. So you also had a thousand shootings 73 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: in Portland last year, which was a massive increase thing, 74 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: But there's only three hundred and sixty five days in 75 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: a year, everybody, Portland is not a large city. It's 76 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty I mean, you know, it's a 77 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: midsize s six hundred and fifty thousand people in Portland, 78 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: So what does that puts it probably top fifty, maybe 79 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: top forty cities in the country. I'd have to look 80 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: at the specific numbers, but Clay by way of comparison, 81 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: So Portland had what was the most recent? I just 82 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: did the math twenty one for twenty years, so what's 83 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: the most recent? Last year was eight last year. If 84 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: you were to if you were to do the math 85 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: on this one, if Portland were the size of New 86 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: York and you expanded out the murders per capita, you 87 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: just did the math on this one, you're getting pretty 88 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: close to a thousand murders, right, That's what it would 89 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: be if Portland were the size of near If you 90 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: look at a city like Baltimore, for example, which had 91 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: which has hundreds of murders a year, and you expanded 92 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: that to be the size of New York City, you 93 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: would also see a similar You know, you're getting to 94 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: like the worst days of the nineteen nineties. New York 95 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 1: had two thousand, two hundred murders in nineteen ninety nineteen 96 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: ninety one. We're going back to the days when people 97 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: didn't feel safe at all in the streets. We're moving 98 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: in that direction. And now let's get to the why. 99 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: The answer is stupid ideas from Democrats. And I know 100 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: it's it's very straightforward. Yeah, this is not They told 101 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: us it was COVID. That was a lie. They told 102 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: us that it was just not even happening. It was 103 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: a data blip, it'll go away. That was a lie. 104 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: The fact of the matter is that Democrats have engaged 105 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: in an all out leftist assault on the criminal justice system, 106 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: from policing to prosecution to incarceration at all levels. And 107 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: what we're seeing is the criminal element in place after place, 108 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: city after city doesn't feel like they're going to suffer 109 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: serious consequences. They commit more and more serious crimes as 110 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: a result. And people are fleeing cities now because of this. 111 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: It's happening all over the country, and they should flee 112 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: these cities, and there should be political consequences for the 113 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: people that have made these insane decisions. And here's what 114 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: I would point out to everybody. The reason why Portland 115 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: is such a fascinating window into failed Democrat policies is 116 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: Portland is probably the most left wing major city in 117 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: America today. And I'm defining major city for everybody out there, 118 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: kind of city that could have a pro sports franchise 119 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: Right Trailblazers Portland. They have a Prolands about twenty fifth 120 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: twenty six by population. I check, that's at top forty. 121 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: It's like twenty fifth twenty six. Okay, name a city 122 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: that is more woke than Portland. I bet almost everybody 123 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: out there listening, right, mean, they made a show called Portlandia, 124 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: which was basically mocking the white, woke community that is 125 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: the underlying foundation of Portland. Used to be, to Buck's Point, 126 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: a jewel of the Pacific Northwest, one of the safest 127 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: places in all the country. I bet there's not one 128 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: major city in America, Buck that has quadrupled its murder 129 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: rate in the last couple of years in the entire 130 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: United States. I bet you can't find one. Is it 131 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: a coincidence that the wokest city in America the one 132 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: that repudiated police the most aggressively and went in with 133 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: left wing defund the police, Antifa protest constantly. Is it 134 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: a surprise that they quadrupled their murders, that that went 135 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: up more than anywhere. I don't think so. I think 136 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: it's a natural consequence, and if we're not careful, every 137 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: city becomes Portland. And let's look at what they did. 138 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we talk about this in the terms of 139 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: the stats, the numbers. What are the decisions that they made. 140 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: And when I say they Democrats down the loss, not 141 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: a single Republican. This isn't a both sides issue. This 142 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: isn't oh, they do things, we do things left and right. No, 143 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: no Democrat. Have Democrats have total dominance of the city. 144 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: They do things like they say, let's let people live 145 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: on the streets, meaning camp on the streets, set up 146 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: campsites wherever they want on the street, in the park 147 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: outside your home. Well, that also brings down property values. 148 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: That makes people feel less safe. And sure most of 149 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: the people camping out aren't actually harming anybody, but it's unsanitary. 150 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: They're harming themselves. They make drugs legal for people to 151 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: do outdoors. They've had a huge increase in overdose deaths, 152 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: which they said they remember they legalize drugs to make 153 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: people safer from the drug use, and actually more people 154 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: are doing drugs and dying as a result. Then they say, well, 155 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: we don't want to be too strict with people when 156 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: it comes to not only public urination and definite which 157 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: they decide is also legal all quality of life primes. 158 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: Then it's let's not arrest people for shoplifting. Let's set 159 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: a really high limits, say, I don't know, nine hundred dollars, 160 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: which is what they've had in California recently, before you're 161 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: going to get arrested in charge with a felony or 162 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: anything serious at all. So let's effectively decriminalize stealing, open 163 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: air drug use, living on the streets, urinating in public, 164 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, indecent exposure, which is going on all the time. Essentially, 165 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: let's bring as many criminal, deeply schizophrenic drug abusers possible, 166 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: have them descend on our city. And then when people 167 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: do really bad stuff, let's not lock them up for 168 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,359 Speaker 1: long periods of time because we don't want mass incarceration. 169 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: And let's just see what happens. And we're seeing what happens, 170 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: and the small businesses that are trying to make a living, 171 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: the small business owners all over Portland. People don't feel 172 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: comfortable on the streets, so they're not coming into downtown, 173 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: they're not traveling around like the ordinary would. In fact, Buck, 174 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: let's hope when we do this every now and then 175 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: we have a large audience in Portland. I'd like to 176 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: hear from people who live in Portland what the last 177 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: couple of years have felt like, as your murder rate 178 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: has quadrupled, And we could talk about all different sorts 179 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: of crime, But one reason we like to talk about 180 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: murders on this is it's hard to determine sometimes whether 181 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: other crimes are going up because people might not call 182 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: the police as often over their scooters getting stolen, like 183 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: happened to Buck in New York City trauma. But for 184 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: the most part, if there is a dead body, there 185 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: is an investigation. It's a tally that's somewhat reliable. Quadrupling 186 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: murder rates one eight hundred two eight two eight eight 187 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: two only Portland people, what's it like to live in 188 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: your city right now and have all of these failures 189 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: raining down upon you such that arguably Portland is the 190 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: biggest failure of the post George Floyd era in America. 191 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: It is also really the home city of Antifa. It is, 192 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: it is the city more than any other. I mean, 193 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: Seattle is probably right up there, I mean you could, 194 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: but Portland has an Antifa presence. That is, it's it's 195 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: consistent anytime there's any kind of a right wing gathering 196 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: a conservative or a Republican gathering, you know Antifa is 197 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: going to show up there, so which is Antifa's really 198 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: just a distillation of left wing They're essentially the shock 199 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: tropes of a shock troops of left wing wokesm. And 200 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: do you remember when the mayor there, Ted Wheeler during 201 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: during the whole BLM summer of violence and destruction, Ted 202 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: Wheeler like showed up the mayor of Portland, Hey guys, 203 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: like I'm here for you. They're like, shut up, you 204 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: little nerd, like we hate you. And it's just yeah, exactly, 205 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: it's just destruction and anger and rage and stupidity, all 206 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: with Democrats blessing it, pushing it along, almost all white 207 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: woke democrats. I just want you to be thinking about this. 208 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: The worst people in America, the people who are destroying America, 209 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: the most white woke democrats, and Portland is a perfect 210 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: approximation and epitomization of exactly what's going on there. I 211 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: want to take some of those calls Portland, you're on 212 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: the clock. We'll talk to you next segment. 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Welcome back in Clay Travis 240 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with 241 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: us Portland. A lot of people weighing in. We appreciate 242 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: everybody listening on k X there. We've got a monster 243 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: audience and this quadrupling of the murders. Colonel Miller, what's 244 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: going on from your perspective in Portland? He lives in Portland. 245 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: What's up, Colonel Hey, Claymon Buck, thanks for the opportunity. 246 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: So I'm a lifetime Portlander. My family's been in the 247 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: Portland area since the late eighteen hundreds. I've been there 248 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: since the sixties. I followed it in twenty nineteen. I'm 249 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: retired Air Force, and then I followed it nightly after 250 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: the George Floyd deaths and the protests, and what I 251 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: saw was Black Lives Matter and Antifa became one violent 252 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: organization and that's where the violence stemmed from, you know, 253 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: the first forty five days at the county courthouse, the 254 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: next forty five at the federal courthouse, and then for 255 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: the next year, they would hit the North, Southeast, West, 256 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: and Central police precincts every night, and then the Ice 257 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: Detention Center and they would rotate how they hit those 258 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: and that's where where all the violence that came from 259 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: and perpetrated primarily for a year. What's it like to 260 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: live in the city now compared to what it used 261 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: to be like? Yeah, so it used to be like 262 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: in the nineties, I think, you know, four hundred and 263 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: fifty thousand population with eleven hundred and fifty in the 264 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: Portland Police Bureau. Fast forward to today, six hundred and 265 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: fifty thousand plus. We don't have seven hundred plus in 266 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: the Portland Police Bureau. They've defunded all of that. You 267 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: don't have enough cops. I mean that's another part of 268 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: this too, Just like you know, border patrols overwhelmed. Cops 269 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: in our cities are overwhelmed. Colonel Miller up in Portland, 270 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: thank you, sir, Luke from the outskirts of Portland, Oregon. 271 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: Luke what he got for us? Hey, guys, thanks for 272 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: the opportunity, And I'm glad you guys are highlighting what's 273 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: happening in Portland as what it might happen elsewhere. And 274 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm a small business owner. I have two small kids 275 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: born and raised in Portland. Like the Colonel, it was 276 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: a wonderful place to live until about five or six 277 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: years ago and crimes skyrocketed. Finally, my wife convinced us 278 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: to move out of Northeast Portland neighborhood to a bedroom community. 279 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: And the week after that happened it was a nice neighborhood, 280 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: there was a shooting in the neighborhood. My neighbor's houses 281 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: got hit, thirty shots fired, two kids went to the hospital, 282 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: and it's just, you know, it was a sad deal. 283 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: It's really tragic because I was so proud of Portland 284 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: forever and now I'm almost embarrassed to live here. Yeah, 285 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: there's there is nothing that democrats can't ruin. Folks, always 286 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: remember you're in a fantastic place, Mike, in Portland. You 287 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: now you went and got a gun. You didn't have 288 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: one before, but you've become so unsafe and this experience 289 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: of living in Portland that you decide you had to 290 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: protect yourself. Yeah, that's right, great show, guys. I echoed 291 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: what the other folks are saying. I went and got 292 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: my concealed cherry for Oregon and Washington, and there's plenty 293 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: of buildings in town that say firearms not allowed, which 294 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: of course only protects the bad guys. And I'm happy 295 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: to carry where I need to regardless of sign. People 296 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. But yeah, it's wild west 297 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: out here. You're scared to go downtown. And I grew 298 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: up here. I live three miles from downtown up in 299 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: the hills just above downtown. You're scared to go down there. 300 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: And if you you're always looking over your shoulder. It's 301 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: horrendous conditions. Everything you've heard is true, and it's worse. 302 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: And I have a few friends that are cops, are 303 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: police forces down by the hundreds, and they don't even 304 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: they're not even honest about it. 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Donate eleven 328 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: dollars a month to the towers at t twot dot org. 329 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: That's t the number two t dot org. Welcome back 330 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: to play and Buck. Julie Kelly with us now. She's 331 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: senior writer at American Greatness and has been following the 332 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: situation here of the trial of men accused of a 333 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: plot to kidnap the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer. Julie, 334 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: appreciate you coming back to join us. Hey, guys, thanks 335 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: for having me on. Okay, so the breaking are not breaking. 336 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: The recent news I should say from just yesterday is 337 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: that federal prosecutors finally got two convictions in the Gretchen 338 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: Whitmer kidnapping plot against Barry Croft and Adam Fox. They 339 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: now face up to life in prison. There's a lot 340 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: to break down here for everybody. First off, the first 341 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: time around there were no convictions. Why do you think 342 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: it was different this time? And what do you need 343 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: to what does everyone need to know about how this 344 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: all went down? Well, how it went down is it 345 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: was an FBI sting operation from start to finish. It 346 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: required the involvement of at least a dozen FBI undercover 347 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: agents and informants working with their FBI handlers out of 348 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: a few different ATBI field offices. This was a massive 349 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: operation entrapment scheme to stitch together this group a kind 350 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: of random outliers, you know, some kind of outcasts and 351 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: misfits who were posting on social media their rage about 352 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: lockdowns and of courts in Michigan had one of the 353 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 1: harshest and longest lockdowns. So the FBI got involved, stitched 354 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: this group together, organized all of these events and excursions, 355 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: including a surveillance trip to Gretchen Wentmer's cottage, which was 356 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: supposed to be the scene of the crime, organized by 357 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: FBI informants and undercover agents. They arrested these men in 358 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: October of twenty twenty. This lady probably recall Wald while 359 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: headline laming Donald Trump for these righting malicious trying to 360 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: take out one of his most published political foes. But 361 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: it turned out it was totally orchestrated, engineered by the FBI. 362 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: That's why in April, when these four men went on trial, 363 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: the government didn't get a single conviction. It was just 364 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: stunning with heat, I mean, this sort of thing never 365 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: happens two men were outright acquitted hung jury on Adam 366 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: Fox and very cost As you just said, they retried 367 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: the case eight days of testimony, less than about seven 368 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: hours of jury deliberations, and shockingly history returned convictions on 369 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: every single count. The difference to your question was the judge. 370 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: The judge fully threw his weight on the side of 371 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: the government, and we could talk about some of those details, 372 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: but that's the difference between then and the time. Julie, 373 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: I appreciate you keeping us updated on the Michigan case. 374 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: I want to go to Mara Lago for a moment. 375 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: As more details are coming out and this appears to 376 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: be less and less of a significant issue. Are you 377 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: still confident the government is going to try and charge 378 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: Donald Trump based on the Mara Lago raid or do 379 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: you think some of the pushback on Merrick Garland has 380 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: got the Department of Justice a little bit shaken. Oh, 381 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: I wish there was anything to get this DJ shaken. 382 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: There's absolutely no stopping them. They have no barriers, they 383 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: have no guardrails. They're getting away with whatever they want 384 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: in court, not only related to this raid, but in 385 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: their January sixth persecution. So they're completely untethered. There's no 386 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: reason why they should not and will not indict Donald Trump. 387 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: I though he's talked about it before. The mara Lago 388 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: rate was to create optics, to make it look like 389 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: this was going this is legit, right, a legit criminal investigation, 390 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: which it's not. So this was to create optics. And 391 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: quite frankly, as I've written at American Greatness, the Democrats 392 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: have ratcheted this up so high they really put themselves 393 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: in a coin price from their base who wants blood. 394 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: They finally want to see Donald Trump at handcuffs. If 395 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: the Democrats don't deliver, they will pay a price. So 396 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any listening backs for them now. 397 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: So Julie, just to be clear, you are still as 398 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: confident because you even before the mor Lago raid came 399 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: on this show and a lot of people now remember 400 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: this at Wow, before the rate of mor Lago, you 401 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: believe that there was going to be a high likelihood 402 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: of a prosecution of Donald Trump. You still believe that. 403 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: I absolutely do. I think I was like ninety nine percent. 404 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: Now in like one hundred and five percent, you said 405 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent, which is pretty like I'm not even 406 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent sure that I'm gonna wake up tomorrow. 407 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: So I'm pretty that's a pretty high likelihood. You're you're 408 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent sure they're gonna prosecute Donald Trump or 409 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna bring some kind of criminals. She's a duck. 410 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: She's going sorry, going yeah, go going on onto the 411 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: next level. I mean, I will say it has been remarkable, 412 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: Julie to see how when they initially did it, because 413 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: I do think there was a bit for normal people, 414 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: not for libs who watched too much CNN. There was 415 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: the shock of wow, you're sending dozens of FBI agents 416 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: into a president and possible future president's residence, and they said, oh, 417 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: just wait, it could be about a lot more. And 418 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: now it's oh no. The dispute with the National Archives 419 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: is super serious. This was totally totally fine is what 420 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: they're trying to sell us and criminal which just seems nuts. Yes, 421 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: the librarian is upset that, Yeah, this is this is 422 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: such a good point. We talked about this some yesterday, 423 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: Julia Buck, I just want to jump in. This is 424 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: a dispute with the National Free Archives. Yeah, it's Clay. 425 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: How many years you live in DC? I don't even 426 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: know where the National Archives is. I lived in DC 427 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: for like seven years. This is gonna be either the 428 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: most embarrassing or the biggest nerd move ever. I've been 429 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: to the National Arves to do research there, but the 430 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: idea that anybody inside of the National Archives could get 431 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: an FBI raid on anyone, much less a former president. 432 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: If the National Archives had raided my dorm room when 433 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: I was at George Washington University, I would have been like, 434 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: what the Archives, Like, what are you talking about? And 435 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: the idea that they can get a raid from the 436 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: Department of Justice, Julie, I mean, this is crazy. Nobody's 437 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: even talking about this, the freaking National Archives. I know. 438 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: But if you, of course, if you watched the last Indiana, well, 439 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: the National Archives said, and she's very upset. You know, 440 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: he gave them four weeks to turn over their documents. 441 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: Who are you? I mean, if somebody took the Constitution 442 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: and tried to muggle it out from the Archives or 443 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: something like that, I'd be like, Okay, but yeah, I mean, 444 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: this is just so laughably absurd to me, Julie, that 445 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: we're really having an unprecedented act. The Department of Justice 446 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: has never done this before, and they're doing it over 447 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: basically a librarian being mad. Well, I mean, it sort 448 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: of went from he has the nuke codes to you know, 449 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: you've got an overdue library book and how dare you 450 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: not put the little card back inside of it? You're 451 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: going to get your library card revokes? Like this is crazy, 452 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: but that's my set. It was part of all the optics, right, 453 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: because most people aren't paying attention like we are, and 454 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: they don't see this as a dispute with this nameless, 455 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: faceless bureaucrat, so they think, okay, well maybe they really 456 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: did find something at Marlago and this really is a 457 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: serious investigation, and the FBI wouldn't do this. Of course 458 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: our side knows this now, it's total folly. We know 459 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: the FBI GEOJC completely weaponized on behalf of the Democratic Party. 460 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: I do think more Americans are waking up to that. 461 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: But evidence doesn't matter. I've seen what this DJ is 462 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: getting away within the CC District Court. They are making 463 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: up charges, they have lied about evidence, The judges don't 464 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: call them out. The grand jury signs off on whatever 465 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: this j puts in front of that. Yeah, I mean, Julie, 466 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: to your point, I was just I was talking to 467 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: some other conservative heavy hitters recently, and a lot of 468 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: them were surprised about the DC Circuit judge who was 469 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: holding one of the J six defendants in solitary no 470 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: no bail because of the risk of another insurrection, and 471 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: that was officially written down in the judicial opinion. They're like, really, 472 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: that can't be. Yes, it is, it absolutely is. I 473 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: mean they're holding men accused of non violent felonies of 474 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 1: the stupid obstruction of an official preceding charge, which has 475 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: never been used in this way. You've judges denying people 476 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: non bail based on that selony alone, and as you said, 477 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: tied to January sixth, well we can't you know, we 478 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 1: can't endorse this insurruption. You have to pay, and we're 479 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: going to deny you bail. So, I mean, this is 480 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: what this is what we're dealing with in DC. It 481 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: is I call it a circle of hell for the 482 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: defendants who are trapped in it. They won't change venues, 483 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: they won't dismiss any counts, and this is the same 484 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: judicial legal circle of how that's gunning for Trump and 485 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: I think will be very will be successful. Julie, We're 486 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: going to have you back as this moves along. We 487 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: really appreciate you following this and other big legal stories. 488 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for being Oh everyone, you check out Julie's book 489 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: January sixth How Democrats use the Capital Protest to launch 490 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: a war on terror against the political right. Julie, thanks 491 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: so much. Thanks guys, have a great day. Julie really 492 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: is fantastic. Gotta keep getting her on she's doing. Got 493 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: a lovely fearless right. Fearless is great. People that are 494 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: fearless always respect Amen. Amen. Indeed, business owners getting boxed 495 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: in by the pressure of running your business. You know what, 496 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: I've run a business before, and there's so many details 497 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: you have to be worried about. List is endless, doesn't 498 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't ever seem like there's not one challenge that's 499 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: stacked on top of another. 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There's 507 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: always challenges out there in business, but one of the 508 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: biggest challenges is just having the time to address everything 509 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: you can and need to as a business owner. Why 510 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: not sign up for inspiity today. Nothing will seem impossible. 511 00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: Inspiity hr that makes a difference. In Buck twenty four 512 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: seven and subscribe today. Welcome back in Clay Travis, buck Sexton, 513 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: show the challenges out there. Ten thousand reviews. We're gonna 514 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: finally have Dub doing some work out here. Get your 515 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: five star reviews and you can go to iTunes search 516 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: out Clay Travis, search out Buck Sexton. Give us all 517 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: those reviews. Make us laughing. By us, I mean Dub 518 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: and Boom. I'll send you an autograph copy of the book. 519 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: And maybe we're gonna have a bunch of people today 520 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: from Portland who are like, finally, people are noticing that 521 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: our murder rate has quadrupled and we have fallen apart 522 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: more than any city in America. And we were having 523 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 1: our conversation, we opened up phones and took a lot 524 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: of calls and thanks to the people from Portland who 525 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: were kind of sharing their opinion Buck as we were 526 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: interacting and discussing this Portland situation, and to me it 527 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: representing the full culmination of what woke, white rule can 528 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: mean for the country. If it's not beaten down to me, 529 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: we need to go to Portland. I've never been to Portland, 530 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: but I bet there are a lot of police officers 531 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: that are listening right now that would like to drive 532 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: us around and give us a look at what this white, 533 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: woke rule can do to otherwise a jewel of the 534 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest, and also be a cautionary tale for other 535 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: parts of the country because a quadruple murder rate. As 536 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: you ran through some of this data, that should be 537 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: terrifying to any city. But how did things go so 538 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: wrong in Portland and how does it get corrected? I 539 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: think would be an interesting field because that's the important 540 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: that's the important additional component is these things can be 541 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: I grew up in New York City and I saw it. 542 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: I know what it is, and I was, you know, 543 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: at an age where I was going out a lot 544 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: on my own. And the difference between when I was 545 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: in junior high versus by the time I finished high 546 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: school was can you go into Central Park at night safely. 547 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: The answer was absolutely not. You will probably be mugged. 548 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: You're having a high risk of assault if you do that. 549 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: You know too, Yeah, go in there, go jogging at night. Men, 550 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: women don't worry about a no problem. Midnight is fine. 551 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: Massive change in the city, so it is possible to 552 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: fix these things. I love your idea of going to Portland. 553 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: I would love to go out there. I've been. I 554 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: went in two thousand and ten, and you know, I 555 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: went to the what was the Japanese gardens there, and 556 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: the food scene there was amazing, the food trucks. It 557 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: was when it was still very safe and and you know, 558 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: but you could tell these elements of leftism. We're already 559 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, you're already starting to get kind of angry 560 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: panhandlers with face tattoos. You know, you're getting a lot 561 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: of that going on there that was already happening. And 562 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: obviously over time it became more and more far left, 563 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: and then it just it just rapidly deteriorated. But to 564 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: our boy, maybe before it's a beautiful place. It show. 565 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: It should be a place where everyone's I mean, it 566 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: used to be you at pretty low home prices, they're 567 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: pretty low, you know, relatively speaking in terms of quality 568 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: of life, pretty low cost of living. And now I 569 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: mean we got we can take calls for a whole 570 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: hour here, just everybody calling on who listens on k 571 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: ex saying, yeah, man, they've ruined They've ruined this place. 572 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they've ruined San Francisco, They've ruined Portland. I 573 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: think they're on the on the edge of ruining Los 574 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: Angeles for a lot of people. Yeah, if you live 575 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: in a ten million dollar mansion in Beverly Hills, you 576 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: don't care for people that are just doing you know, 577 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: normal jobs and trying to make ends meet. It sucks 578 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: for them and they're sick of it. I think the 579 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: whole West Coast is under siege from this woke white 580 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: mentality that is destroying the fabric of America. And again, 581 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: I don't think we talk enough about it, that it 582 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: is woke white people who are destroying the country that 583 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: we love. And it's a tiny minority of the overall population. 584 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: You probably have friends who are in the woke white community. 585 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,239 Speaker 1: You know them, and they are at their utmost in 586 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: power right now in the West Coast. Right these are 587 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: the people who were saying, hey, let's rename every school 588 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: in San Francisco, even though schools aren't open in San Francisco. 589 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: These are who are the wit who are the das 590 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: buy and large woke white people are the DA's who 591 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: were saying, Hey, we're not putting anybody in prison. It's 592 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: a racist to do that. It's happening all over the 593 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: West Coast. How is that infection gonna get stopped? And 594 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: how do you cauterize basically this wound? How do you 595 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: put yourself back in a decent position. I feel like 596 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: Portland is maybe the place in America where where things 597 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: have gone the most wrong and where it needs to 598 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: get fixed. I just think it's a field trip worthy 599 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 1: experiment to see how in the space of three years 600 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: do you quadruple murders. It does have great food. I 601 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: will tell you the food scene there is phenomenal. So 602 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: we're not going to suffer or at least from a 603 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: culinary perspective. But we may have to have producer Ali 604 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: and producer Mike as our personal security detail out there. 605 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: There are a lot of cops. It would be very 606 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: comfortable to be our security detail. I think they'd like 607 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: to get what's going on out there see, probably good. 608 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: I would love to do some ride alongs with them 609 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: and see what they're what they're doing. I mean, one 610 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: of the things, one of the reasons why I like 611 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: to talk about the border and focus in on it 612 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: is because I've been. I've made three separate field reporting 613 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: trips to the US Mexico border, done ride along with 614 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: border patrol, spent you know, a whole day with them 615 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: in the car, a whole day with them, going to 616 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: see what they're doing, seeing the detention facilities. When you 617 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: see that, you know, you have this whole understanding of 618 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is a total mess. So I 619 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: am sure time to go to the border three times, 620 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: and Biden still hasn't been in like fifteen years. Well, 621 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: Kama has almost been to the border. She she what's 622 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: amazing about the kabbala as borders are thing was that 623 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,479 Speaker 1: she had the time on the taxpayers dime to fly 624 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: right over the border to go to Central America to 625 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: talk about root causes, but couldn't stop on the US 626 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: side or the Mexican side of the border to go 627 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: see what was going on. It was pretty fascinating. You know, 628 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: you're in rough spot when Lester Holt basically pimp slaps you. Right. 629 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: He's like, hold on a minute, Hold on a minute, Kamala, 630 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: you are telling me that you've been to the border. 631 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, we've been to the board. No you haven't. No, immediately, 632 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: like Lester Holt, it's like, it's like the old Wayne 633 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: Brady skit. You remember the Dave Chappelle Wayne Brady skit. 634 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: It's an amazingly funny skit back in the day where 635 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 1: he basically turns into a bad guy. In the skit, 636 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,479 Speaker 1: Lester Holt might be the least threatening person in all 637 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: of media. And he was like, Kamala, come on, I 638 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: gotta correct you here. You're totally wrong. I hope for 639 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: everybody in Portland and across the country and live strongholds, 640 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: we provide that dose of daily sanity. You are not alone. 641 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: We are with you. We are fighting for you and 642 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: going to continue in that because things can turn around, 643 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,959 Speaker 1: and I think we are going to turn them around 644 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: in a lot of places, not everywhere, but we'll work 645 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 1: on it. And with that Clay, we gotta get everybody 646 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: subscribed to that podcast. Man. That is our mission for 647 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: the lung for ten thousand. That's what I want Dubbed 648 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: to see the votes. Get them out there. Five stars. 649 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: Give us some funny reads as well. Make it happen. 650 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: We'll be back with you guys tomorrow. Appreciate all the 651 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: time hanging with us. Pleat Travis and Buck Sexton on 652 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: the front lines of