1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Welcome into Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink here 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: at cliff On Brown and we are going to get 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: you set for the Ravens Packers games Saturday night at 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Lambeau Field. The Ravens are obviously don't control their own 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: destiny anymore. They need to win and get help from 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and beating the Pittsburgh Steelers. But it 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: starts with you need to win. Ravens play Saturday and 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers don't play till Sunday, So the Ravens have 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: to take care of their own business. And it's going 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: to be a tough game in Lambeau against the Packers 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: who are nine to five and one and really kind 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: of fighting to solidify their playoff spot. And so this 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: is going to be a tough game. It's two teams 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: that are banged up coming into it. But Cliff, you know, 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: we just said, as we know, the Ravens don't control 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: their own playoff destiny. But what have you heard from 17 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: players and coaches this week kind of their mentality as 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: they approach this game. 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: Well, I think they'll take the right approach that they 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: know that if they don't win Saturday, then nothing else matters. 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 2: The Patriots loss was definitely a gut punch, yep, and 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: no one's trying to hide from that. I don't think 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: they've been all year fighting uphill and so this is 24 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: not a new situation for them. I think that they 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: have enough veteran players and enough experience going through hardship 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: this year that Saturday Night they will run out in 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: Lambeau and give it a good fight. It hasn't been 28 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: a lack of effort for the Ravens this year. It's 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: been a lack of execution. And I don't think they're 30 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: going to just let what happened against New England impact 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 2: them when the game starts. 32 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with all that. I think that this 33 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: team in some ways feels like it really just hasn't 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: put it together all season long, and hey, let's go 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: out there and try to put it together here Saturday night. 36 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Like there's just everybody had high expectations coming into this 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: season for what this team could do and how talented 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: it was, and I think that they want to They 39 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: want to see that to fruition and even if it 40 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: doesn't end up mattering, like, they want to play good 41 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: ball on both sides and so I certainly get that feeling. Obviously, 42 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: like you said, the mood in the locker room, people 43 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: are disappointed, very disappointed, but I think that they will 44 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: rally in this game. Cliff obviously hughes storyline this week 45 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: is Lamar Jackson still sidelined with a contusion on his 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: back that's very painful. Was not able to participate in 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: a walk through at the start of the week, so 48 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: it's TBD on his status. We might not know until 49 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: you know ninety minutes before the game when an actives 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: come out. And if he does not play, obviously it's 51 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley getting another start. What do you see from 52 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley and how do you feel like the team 53 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: responds to him. 54 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: Well, I think I can honestly say I've always been 55 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: a Tyler Huntley guy. I just love the way that 56 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: it seems that no matter what situation he's thrown into, 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: it doesn't seem to affect him. Last week against the Patriots, 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: and he didn't know he was going to play, it's 59 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: a huge game, a tough opponent. When he comes in 60 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: he plays well. I mean they had two touchdown drives 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: in the second half. He definitely played well enough for 62 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: them to win, didn't turn the ball over. And in 63 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: addition to having confidence in himself, his teammates have confidence 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: in him. And as a quarterback, that's an x fact 65 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: that it's really hard to put your finger on why 66 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: that is, but when it is true, it makes a difference. 67 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: So yes, I definitely feel that he is the right 68 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: backup quarterback for the Ravens and for this situation, yeah. 69 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: He's the perfect backup to me. He executes the offense right, 70 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: That's what you want as a guy that comes in 71 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: the offense, doesn't have to dramatically change. He makes the reads, 72 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: doesn't make big mistakes, you know, and for the most part, 73 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: and especially in recent years, Snoops avoided that. And I 74 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: thought he played well to your point against the Patriots. 75 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he completed every past attempts except for one, 76 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: and so he executed it, made some big throws on 77 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: third down, got some big completions, and so I thought 78 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: you did well. And this seems going to rally behind 79 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: him if he's the guy. Obviously, you know, he's not 80 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: as the playmaker to the elite level playmaker that Lamar 81 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 1: Jackson is, but a I think you feed Dent Derrick 82 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: Henry in this running attack. You keep feeding them the rock, 83 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: so you're really playing off the running game. You kind 84 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: of minimize the difficult situations that you're putting Snoop in. 85 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: You don't want to be putting him in a lot 86 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: of third lungs, but stay ahead of the chains. Give 87 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry the ball and let him go to work. 88 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: So the Packers, we talk about the Ravens injuries. The 89 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: Packers have a laundry list of guys also at quarterback, 90 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: a lot of questions. Jordan Love is in the concussion protocol. 91 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: It remains to be seen whether he's going to play. 92 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: Malik Willis is dealing with a shoulder injury. Sound he 93 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: said he expects that he will be able to suit up, 94 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: but whether he's the guy, Jordan Love's guy, we're not 95 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: really sure yet. It sounds like it could be Malik 96 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: Willison and so it could be a battle of two 97 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks here. Malik reminds me of Snoop in the 98 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: way that he's gotten the job done. Honestly, looking at 99 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: his numbers, I mean five career starts, fewer than Snoop. 100 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: Snepe has a lot more experience, but five career starts, 101 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: Mike Willis has a three to two record, sixty five 102 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: percent completion rate, five touchdowns to three picks. Last week 103 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: he played against the Bears after Jordan Love had the 104 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: exit of the game. He went nine to eleven for 105 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty one yards and a touchdown. He 106 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: ran ten times for forty four yards. So a guy 107 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: that can kind of hurt you with his legs at 108 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: times and just high completion percentage. 109 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I watched a little bit at Packers 110 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: Bear game Saul Willis get in definitely was impressed with 111 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: I think, yes, he's a better player than he was 112 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 2: a few years ago, more careful with the football, could 113 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: always hurt you with his legs, and I think that's 114 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: a great offense the Packers have. I mean they really 115 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: you know, Matt Lafleor is a really good play card 116 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: to me and can make quick adjustments during games. And 117 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 2: once Willis got in the game, yeah, they immediately just 118 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: went into, you know, plays that he likes. He looked 119 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: very comfortable against a good opponent. So yeah, if the Ravens, 120 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: if it is Willis, then yes, I mean the Ravens 121 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: are still going to have their hands full and then 122 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: of course Jordan Love. I mean, he's to me, he's 123 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: one of my favorite quarterbacks. He's really when he gets high, 124 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: he's as good as anybody can throw lose Rave receivers. 125 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: They have it all as an offense, particularly with him 126 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: at the helm. So as you mentioned, you know earlier, 127 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: this is going to be a tough game for the Ravens. 128 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to play well to win. And I 129 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: should have mentioned earlier too though they have played their 130 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 2: best football on the road. He can't have really figured 131 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: out why that is, but it's been true. So you know, 132 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 2: if the Ravens play like they usually do on the road, 133 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: they'll definitely have a chance to win. But it's going 134 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: to take that type of performance to win. 135 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: This team's played its best with it. It's back against 136 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: the wall really all seas long. And you get more 137 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: of that feeling when you're on the road, right like 138 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: when you're at home and friendly confines, like they don't 139 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: they don't like to be in friendly confines. They like 140 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: to be everybody in the stadiums against them. You know, 141 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: everything stacked the answer, and that's when this team seems 142 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: to perform the best. 143 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: If they make the playoffs as a division chances, did 144 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: they forfeit the home field advantage exactly. 145 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll go on the road. We'll go on the road. 146 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: We did talk to players this week about playing in 147 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: Lambeau in December and kind of mysteek around that I'm 148 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: excited for it. I've never been to the Lambeau field 149 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: and so it's not going to feel like the kind 150 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: of game that I think when the schedule came out 151 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: that a lot of us, you know, thought, oh man, 152 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: it could be snowing, the frozen tundra and all this stuff. 153 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a low of thirty three degrees ball me, 154 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: Wisconsin standards tropical for late December. But you know, you 155 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: could tell that that some players Kyle Hamilton included, some 156 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: guys were kind of psych to go into that environment. 157 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 158 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: I have been to Lambeau and to me, it is 159 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: a special place when you go in there and and 160 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: see some of the names you know, and to bring 161 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: an honor and the green and the yellow, and yeah, 162 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: it is. It is different. It's a Saturday night game. 163 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: I think that the players, for the players, it's going 164 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 2: to feel special. They're not going to be thinking about, well, 165 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: we both thought we'd be, you know, better or whatever. 166 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: We're not control of our destiny. I really don't think 167 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: that'll have any impact on the game itself. And that's 168 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: a great atmosphere. Two Packers fans are great know that 169 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: they can clinch a playoff spot if they win. So 170 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: this could be a real celebratory night for the Packers 171 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: if they win. And I think the Ravens that will 172 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: help lift them, as you said, their level of play. 173 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're you're in lambeau Field Saturday night, 174 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: Saturday night football. The world's watching. 175 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: You know. 176 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: If you can't get up for that game, there's something wrong, 177 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: you know. And so I think the Ravens will you 178 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: talk about all the talent that the Packers have on 179 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: their roster, and you kind of look down at to me, 180 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, after the quarterbacks, Josh Jacobs in that running game, 181 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: that is a really strong running game for them, and 182 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is really good in the red zone. I 183 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: think that's where it starts for the Ravens is they 184 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: have to play good run defense. 185 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: Right Well, that's what they always say. 186 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: I mean, stopping the run is critical, and particularly if 187 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 2: it is say Willis at the Helm. You take away 188 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: his running game and make him throw, keep him from 189 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: hurting with his legs, then that's a formula for success. 190 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 191 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: If Jacobs has a big game, then their whole offense 192 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: just becomes harder to stop. 193 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 3: Yep. 194 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: And you don't want them dictating Timbo's Particularly if the 195 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: Ravens do fall behind, then you know they can really 196 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: take control with the running game. That's not the game 197 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: the Ravens want to play. So you know, it's really 198 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: the same as every opponent. Make them one dimensional, keep 199 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: them in second long throw along, get off the field. 200 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: Getting a number of plays for the offense has been 201 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: a problem for the Ravens all years. It seems like 202 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: every game the other team has more plays. You know, 203 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: when the Ravens score. I mean, you like explosive plays, 204 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: but it always seems like forty five, fifty to fifty 205 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: five plays. Love to see the Ravens get a game 206 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: where they have, you know, sixty five plays for. 207 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: They're dominating time in possession. 208 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: Henry and Mitchell, they can start hammering people. That's when 209 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 2: the Ravens are at their best. 210 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 3: Yep. 211 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: And you mentioned getting off the field and third down, 212 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: that's the challenge the Packers are number one in the 213 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: league in third down offense. They've converted over fifty percent 214 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: of the time, which is good. That's absurd. Yeah, so 215 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: that you know, that's hurt the Ravens at times this year. Defensively, 216 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens generally speaking have been good seventh in third 217 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: down defense, ave thirty six point one percent. But something's 218 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: got to give there. And you know, in some big 219 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: games this year, you think about the Bengals loss before 220 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: they clean that up in the second rematch with the 221 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: Bengals are really good on third down. They need to 222 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: continue that here against the Packers because that's an efficient offense. 223 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: The dope question, I mean, the Ravens were really a 224 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: stopp or two away from beating the Patriots. 225 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: Yep. 226 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 2: I mean they did a pretty good job. I thought 227 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: most of the game on the Patriots, But those big 228 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: plays in the fourth quarter. I mean, May made some 229 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 2: great throws, they made some great catches. But yes, as 230 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: a defense, when you have somebody third and long fourth down, 231 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: those are the money plays. That's where the game is 232 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: won and lost. They're gonna have to come up with 233 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: those plays to win this game. 234 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: Yep. 235 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: Then you flip it to the other side. Offensively, for 236 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: the Ravens going against the tough Packers defense, they ranked 237 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: sixth overall in total defense, you know, ninth in points 238 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: per game twenty points per game. Allows this is a 239 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: strong defense, even though it doesn't have Michael Parsons, who 240 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: has lost for the year with the knee injury. Like, 241 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: they still got some players on defense, no. 242 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: Question, I mean they're very solid. It's similar. I mean 243 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: the NFC North won the strongest divisions in football. 244 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: Yep. 245 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: For them to be nine to five and one, they 246 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: haven't done that against CUPK competition. So to me, they're 247 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: a playoff world the team. When you look at the Packers, 248 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: they passed the eye test for me. They're a solid 249 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: team on both sides. They're well coached, and yes, they 250 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: they are a team that usually you know, plays well 251 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: in big spots, win or lose. You don't see the 252 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: Packers getting their doors blown off very often, so I 253 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: would expect that the Ravens. Yes, we'll have everything they want, 254 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: and yes, I think that I could see this game 255 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: coming down to much like the Patriots game. Last few possessions, 256 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: either team haven't a chance to win. 257 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: When you talk about playing a playoff team. The Ravens 258 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: have beaten one this year, the Chicago Bears at home. 259 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: They have not played well against the top competition. This 260 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: is this is another chance, right, like, go out there 261 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: and prove it, Like, you know, can can you beat 262 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: those top teams? Like, even if it doesn't end up 263 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: mattering to me, that would be a nice way to 264 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: kind of close out the regular season. 265 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, if you get to the playoffs, 266 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: those are the only teams you're gonna face, exactly, So 267 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: at some point, if you're a true contender, you have 268 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: to beat the top quality teams. So ending the season 269 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: with this schedule the Ravens had, it's challenging. To me, 270 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 2: it's only fitting because they've been an up and down 271 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: team all year. Are they consistent enough to be a 272 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: playoff team and a team that can do something when 273 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: you get to the playoffs. A win like this would 274 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: make you think that if the Ravens got in the 275 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 2: playoffs and if the Steelers are upset on Sunday, that 276 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: they could go into Pittsburgh and win, and then once 277 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: they got into playoffs, they might be able to go 278 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 2: on a run. If you can't win games like this, 279 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: then even if you were to be able to get in, 280 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: you're probably not going. 281 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: To go on a run. 282 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: Right, Well, if they don't win this game, they ain't 283 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: getting in and they ain't going on a run, That 284 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: is correct, So I mean honestly, like I would love 285 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: to wear my Cleveland Brown's gear that I don't own, 286 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: but I'd love to go out and buy some on 287 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: Sunday morning if that's the case, right, Like, how awesome 288 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: would it be if the Ravens go into Lambeau win 289 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: Saturday and you get to All right, let's turn on 290 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: the Steelers Brown game, Browns game, Like, of course we're 291 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: going into it not with high expectations. That would be 292 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: an upset for the Browns. But is it impossible? Heck no, 293 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: Steelers are not gonna have dk Metcalf. His two games 294 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: suspension for his interaction Detroit with the fan was upheld, 295 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: So he's not playing that game. He wouldn't play. He's 296 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: not gonna play against the Ravens in the regular season finale. 297 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: Like can the Browns win at home? Absolutely? Like Stefansi 298 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: is gonna be coaching. This is a big game for 299 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: Stefanski to kind of show something at the end of 300 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: this regular season here, Miles, Garrett's going for that sack record. SDR. 301 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: Sanders has played well at times, you know, like I 302 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: think that they could pull off an upset and I 303 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: would love to watch that. Like how awesome of a 304 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: Christmas weekend would that be? 305 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: Well, it would be, but you know the way my 306 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: mind works is I'm not thinking about that until after 307 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: the game Saturday. Yeah, I mean it doesn't matter. I 308 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: don't have to go to the Browns to get me 309 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: a brown jersey on sad Sunday if we don't went 310 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: on on Saturday night. 311 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: So you don't have a Browns jersey under the tree, 312 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: still having reserve right exactly. 313 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: So I feel like, you know, the Ravens again, that's 314 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: gonna be big for them to as I think they 315 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: are doing this week. Let's just take care of our business. Yep, 316 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 2: that's what it comes down to anyway. 317 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: Yep, Taylor Grace, Well, speaking of gifts, when we come 318 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: back from the break, we are going to have a 319 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: Christmas gift draft, right all right? No Garrett this week, 320 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: he's out on vacation, took early vacation for Christmas. Cliff, 321 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: I've been crushing Garrett in these drafts. So all right, 322 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: Christmas present Draft Me versus Cliff. When we get back, 323 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: thank you for listening to Lounge. We're coming to you 324 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: from the Seat Geeks Studio. 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So, Cliff, we put 334 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: together a dozen gifts that we feel like these could 335 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,119 Speaker 1: These could be given like from your wife for significant 336 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: other to you. Right, So this this these are gifts 337 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: for a grown man, okay, and we have twelve of them. 338 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: We have a judge here. We have Justin Robertson, who's 339 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: our editorial assistant. Has done a great job all year. 340 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: Look he was a little salt. He he did not 341 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: agree with my choices. In the fruit draft. But he 342 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: promised you're not gonna hold that against me, of course not, 343 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna be unbiased. 344 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 4: I left my biases at the door. 345 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's good to hear. So he's gonna 346 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: judge this, of course, along with Bryson. We always get 347 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: Bryson's opinion, our producer. And uh, all right, so here's 348 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: here's the twelve items that your significant other could buy 349 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: you as a man. It's socks, pajamas, tie, cologne, sweater, booze, 350 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: a watch, tickets to something, a movie, concert, show, sporting 351 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: event like a Ravens game, a wallet, book, money or 352 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: gifts cards, gift cards, or electronics like headphones, video games, 353 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: something electronics. Okay, all right, we got a rock paper 354 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: scissors here clip. Are we doing the snake draft? Are 355 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: we going traditional? 356 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 3: Whatever? You say? 357 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: Man, what do you what did we did? We do snake? 358 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: We did snake. We went snake. We went snake with 359 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: the fruits. So we're gonna keep it with snake draft. 360 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: All right, you'ready, Rock paper scissors, best of one. Don't 361 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: blow this. 362 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: Cliff, alright, ready, fingers. 363 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: A minute, you play rock faver, rock papers, shoot you 364 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: throw up rock scissors al ready. 365 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm ready, tweeted. 366 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: Justin standing up for you to play RockA all right, justin? 367 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: All right? Are you this is bias? I don't know 368 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: if I like this anywhere? Rock paper scissors. Shoot, oh, 369 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: he went rock. I want scissors. Cliff, you got first. 370 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: Pick, my man, So I have the number one pick. 371 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: The number one pick, Cliff, Uh, this. 372 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: Won't surprise anybody who knows men. I'm gonna take booze 373 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: oo getting booze, taking booze. Booze goes if you drink 374 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: bre It goes with everything. Like if you have a 375 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: great Christmas, you celebrate with booze. If you have a 376 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 2: bad Christmas, you have some booze. Right yeah, so yeah, booze. 377 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: You can't go wrong. Especially you know, if people know you, 378 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 2: they usually get booze. And I must say, Ryan has 379 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: already delivered with some height again my favorite beer. 380 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: That's my Christmas gift. 381 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: So I don't see how you could argue with booze 382 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 2: not being a very hot. 383 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: I gifted that to you, so I can't argue. You're right, 384 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: I can't argue against it. A very solid number one choice, Cliff, 385 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: Well done, sir, way better than Garret. Garret would have 386 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: messed it up. Actually, now, he would have gone with 387 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: peace absolutely all right. I'm going with tickets, okay, movie concert, 388 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: something like that, a show like experience. I'm an experience 389 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: this guy, more than like an objects guy. I have 390 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: enough crap in my house. I don't want other stuff. 391 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: I just want like cool, memorable experiences. So I'm I 392 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: would choose concert tickets, all right. That's my number two pick. 393 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: All right, I'm up number three. I'm going money, money 394 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: or gift cards because I know what I want. 395 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: Right. 396 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: If I get money, I can get whatever the heck 397 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: I want, and like, yeah, it's amazing, it's it's it's 398 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: the best gift. Honestly, it could have gone number one 399 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: because I could buy concert tickets with money too. So 400 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm going, now a bad gift card, that's not great, 401 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: But then you could regift that easily, right, So like money, 402 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: money is regivet to pull. Right, So yeah, I'm going 403 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: money for my second pick. 404 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 3: I think that's silent. 405 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: All right, you're up. 406 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: I'm up. 407 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 2: I'm going with electronics headphones, so I love music. Yeah, 408 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 2: so a great pair of headphones is always a good 409 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: gift for me. Yeah, I need headphones for work, so 410 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: I like, I like any kind of headphones, just a 411 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 2: high quality. And usually when I get headphones, they're nicer 412 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: than the ones I would have gotten for. 413 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: Myself, Oh for sure. 414 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 415 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've gotten some cool headphones I never would have 416 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 2: gotten for myself. 417 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going with that. 418 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: That's a good call. And there's like a limitless number 419 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: of electronics that somebody could get you, right, Like they 420 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: can find you something that you don't have, right, So 421 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: that's a good pick. That was my top four too. 422 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: That was my top four same Yeah, all right, except 423 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: I had tickets of a boost So okay, so again, 424 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: so you're up again. 425 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm going pajamas. 426 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: Pajamas, Okay, I'm going pajamas. Would you want, like, do 427 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: you want like the ones with like little reindeer on them? Santa? 428 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: I don't care what they look like. I care how 429 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 3: they feel. 430 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: In a nice pair of pajamas, I can do one 431 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: of my favorite things, which is sleep. I can sleep 432 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: like a baby. I'm comfortable while I'm sleeping and when 433 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: I wake up. And there are some days where hey, 434 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm not in a hurry to get dressed. So if 435 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 2: the pajamas are comfortable. I can have some breakfast in pajamas. 436 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so all. 437 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: Right, But here's my question. Are you a pajamas guy? Like, 438 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: do you normally wear pajamas? No, you don't. 439 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: You don't, And I knew if I have some nice 440 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: ones now summertime? 441 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: Probably not obviously, right, you can only wear them for 442 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: during the winter, so they're limited in scope. Plus, what 443 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: grow man is a pajamas guy? Pajamas for a kid? Sure, 444 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: what grown self respecting man is a Pajama's. 445 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 3: A good point. 446 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: It's a good point. 447 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 2: I guess I'm at least six seven months pajamas. I'm 448 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 2: most you do six six seven months inside. You have 449 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: quality temperature control, so it might be one hundred and 450 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: fifteen degrees outside, but in cons of brown I could 451 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: have the air turned up, chilled with my pajamas and 452 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 2: my booze and the bank and my headphones, and then yeah, 453 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: I'm good. 454 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 1: All right, all right, not bad, not bad. I'm gonna 455 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: go with a watch. Watch is timeless, all timeless actual, 456 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: which is the opposite of timeless. It's got the all right, 457 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: I don't have to explain the going with a watch. 458 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: A nice watch, I mean, that's a that's a nice 459 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: gift and you can always use it, right, doesn't go 460 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: out of style? Nice good watch. Okay, next pick, I'm 461 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: going sweater again. I can. I probably have had the 462 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: same sweaters for twenty years. A good, nice sweater that 463 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: lasts a long time. I'm going sweater. 464 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: Oh man. 465 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: Now see watch to Me is no longer one of 466 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: my favorites. I mean the cell phone to me is 467 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: kind of made the watch thing obsolete. 468 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched a good watch. 469 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: I don't wear often sometimes because I'm like, I don't 470 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: want to wear this watch is too nice, you know 471 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 2: what I mean? 472 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: Right, it's it's like it's trueller, it's men's trul. 473 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, to Watch to Me is gone. It's going down 474 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: over the years. 475 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: I would agree with that. It has lost some value 476 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: over the years. 477 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: But Apple Watch, well yeah, sure. 478 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: Useful right right when you're when you're trying to get 479 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: a hold of me now I'm picking up does it 480 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: fall under electric Now that's a good m Yeah, devalue 481 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: in my oi. 482 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. 483 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, any digital watch it has to it has 484 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: to be like, uh, what's what's the other. 485 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: One that. 486 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: No, no, and analog whatever. Yeah, no, you can't have 487 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: any like digital watch. I think you get all the watches, 488 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: all the watches, the watches included. Okay, all right, right, 489 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: thank you for the clarification. All right, you're up, Cliff. 490 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to go with the book for 491 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: my next one. 492 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: Put me to sleep, you just want to sleep? 493 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 3: Well, hey, I'm the older guy. 494 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 2: Man, give me a book some booze. 495 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 3: I probably am sleep at that point. 496 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: This is your obviouslyity to promote your book. You're an author. 497 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: Well true, I mean yeah, I mean if you want 498 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 3: to read read my book. Whatever, what other book would 499 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 3: you have? 500 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: Exactly? Should be at the top of Eric. 501 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 2: Across Clifton Brown. Look it up, look it up. Yeah, 502 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 2: I take take World of Checks. 503 00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: Never go out of stock. 504 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: You're there, we go, there we go. 505 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 3: But she's books. 506 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: A lot of books have really been life changing for me, 507 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 2: and I'm always in search of a good book. My 508 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: main problem is I don't have enough time to read books. 509 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: That's my problem with books. 510 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: But when I do, I'm usually surprised. I'm usually surprised 511 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 2: that when I read a book that yeah, I was like, 512 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna read this and then I read I'm 513 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: like I should have or I should have read this sooner. 514 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: So I'm trying to get into reading as much as 515 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: I used to, and getting a book would spur me 516 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: to do no. 517 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: See, that's the that's the fallacy. Always say that when 518 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: you get a book, you're always like, yeah, you know, 519 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: I should do more reading. I should read more often. 520 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: And this is gonna be it. It's like the New 521 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: Year's resolution. Yeah, I'm going to turn the page another one. 522 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm on a roll here. I'm going to start reading more. 523 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 1: And then you don't do it, doesn't happen, you don't 524 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: do it. Let's be honest, Cliff, be honest with level 525 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: with me. When you open up the rapping paper and 526 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: you see a book, what's your emotions. 527 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: It's not instant. 528 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: I have to see the cover. It depends on what 529 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: it is. There's a possibility could be thanks and I'm faking. 530 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: What if it's a decent book. I'm not totally like, 531 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: I wish I didn't get this now. I'd rather have 532 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 2: the booze. 533 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: But I right, that's why it was number one pick 534 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: right in my household growing up, my dad is a 535 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: tough guy to shot for and we would always call 536 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: it a chucker. If he didn't like it, it was 537 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: a chucker. And basically it's just like throwing it over 538 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: his shoulder. I don't even want this kind of god 539 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: book falls under the chucker. 540 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 3: Oh my, I'm not going to chuck it. 541 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: Man, I would literally chuck it all right for me. 542 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: Next pick, I'm going with socks. You can always use it. Again, 543 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: this falls under the sweat. You can always use socks, 544 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: and really nice socks are kind of like your pajamas. 545 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: Really nice socks make a difference. I'm a hiker. Hiking 546 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: socks good choice. They can be expensive, more than I 547 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: would ever want to pay on socks. I always have 548 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: too many socks with holes in them, right, so there's 549 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: always a need. 550 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: I definitely gonna go with that, exactly. 551 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: So socks universally solid choice. Like, am I enthused about it? 552 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: No? 553 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: But I'm content. I'm happy with it all right. Next 554 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: one I'm gonna go with is cologne. Okay, Now, I'm 555 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: not a big Colone guy. I think my natural musk 556 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: is quite nice. Right, we got on that one. But 557 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: here's the thing about cologne. Is a gift, right, if 558 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: your wife is giving you clone. That's because she thinks 559 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: it smells good. And if your wife or significant other 560 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: thinks that you smell good, that leads to good things 561 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: for you. Right, So this is a gift that kind 562 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: of keeps on giving, right, Like it makes her happy, 563 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: which makes me happy. It's all good. It's a week gift. 564 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: It's a week gift exactly a week. 565 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 566 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's why I'm going colon a right, all right, 567 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: you're up next. 568 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 3: Well, it's only looks like tying. Wallet is what's. 569 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: Left tie and wallet's what's left. 570 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with sheesh, I'm torn on this one. 571 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 2: I'll go with wallet in that wallets are least useful 572 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: for holding like other credit cards or you know, your license, 573 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: whereas tie. I mean, people aren't wearing ties as much. 574 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: I mean a nice time is cool, but even if 575 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: you have a nice time now, it's like, how often 576 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: are you gonna wear it? I mean, I've got ties 577 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: from a long time ago that are nice. 578 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 3: I have too many ties. 579 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: Now, everybody right, every man has too many ties. 580 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 3: I have too many. 581 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: So another nice one shore I would wait for the 582 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: next time I could wear it and use it might 583 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: be sitting in there for months right right where a wallet? Yeah, 584 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: and you know, wilets wear out. Unfortunately, you can lose 585 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: a wallet. 586 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: That's that's true, I guess. But like everybody's already got 587 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: a wallet, right, and like, are you in the market 588 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: to replace your wallet? Probably not, Like even if mine's 589 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: in rough shape, Like I'm fine with that. I don't 590 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: explodesion explodes. It's fine like a wallet. Now I gotta 591 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: go through. Also the inconvenience of cleaning out transferring the stuff. 592 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: That's kind of pain, it is, but I agree it's 593 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: better than tie. I had tie at the bottom. Look, 594 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: a tie is gift just sucks, all right, tom Our 595 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: ladies out there, don't get your guy a tie. Tie 596 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: gift stinks. 597 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 3: Gosh, you got a lot of people running back. 598 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: You got to give some seed on that one. 599 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: That's funny, all right. 600 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 1: Justin what's the final tally here? 601 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 3: All right? 602 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: Read what what we both ended up with? 603 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 4: Okay, So Ryan, you got tickets, money slash gift card, watch, sweater, socks, 604 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 4: and cologne. 605 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: That's nice. 606 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 3: It's pretty good. 607 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 4: Now, Cliff, you started off with booze. 608 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: I'm still happy. 609 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 4: And then you took electronics slash headphones. The pajamas book wallet, 610 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 4: and uh ty was technically your last pick. 611 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: Oh, you started strong cliffs, you tailed off dramatically the 612 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: jama pajamas wallet, tie book. 613 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 4: Unfortunate. Unfortunately you didn't realize you were stuck with both options, 614 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: so you denigrated the tie pick. 615 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, maybe I had to take both. 616 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: You did take your stuck with both? 617 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: Well, that couldn't win. Put one on? 618 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: What up? 619 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 3: All right? 620 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: Justin? Who's the winner? Well, I said I was. 621 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 4: I was not gonna be biased in this, and I 622 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 4: gotta say it was a clean sweep. In my opinion, 623 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: I think Ryan blew the door. 624 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: Saw let's go marry Christmas to me? Yeah? 625 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think tickets clear one one in my opinion. Uh, 626 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 4: I think you actually g got six of my top 627 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 4: seven picks. 628 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: WHOA give it to us? 629 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: Yes? 630 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 4: I had tickets number one. Yeah, I had sweater number two. 631 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: Wow, my sweater Guy. Yeah, okay, I don't think you 632 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: can ever go a little my taste, but I'm not 633 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: gonna argue with it. 634 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 3: Feel better about losing? 635 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: Okay. 636 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 4: Then I had to watch number three, Wow, watch Guy too? 637 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: To watch Guy? 638 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 4: Now, I'm young, I only have one watch right now, 639 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 4: so that might that might fac. 640 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: That was a shot too right there. 641 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 3: You know I'm not old, I am. 642 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean it was shot to be too. 643 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 3: But still I still don't want to watch. 644 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: All right. 645 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 4: Then I had money slash gift card. I mean that 646 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 4: you can ever go wrong electronics. I had fifth, So 647 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 4: that was that was a strong pick. 648 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: The young guy burying electronics further than we both had 649 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: it on her board. I'm shocked by that. 650 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 3: I have one. What else, sweater? 651 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: This is a classy man, in my opinion. 652 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: I mean, there's only so much electronics you can get. 653 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 1: All right, I should ask it for his list. This 654 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: is making my man. 655 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 4: Then I had Colonne number six, then socks number seven, okay, 656 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 4: and then Booze at number eight. 657 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: You have Booze Booze number. 658 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 4: Is no I know. 659 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: I feel good now I lost. I'm good. 660 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: It's a judge. 661 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: It's not me. It's the judge. 662 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 663 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 3: It's the judge. Baby. 664 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't drink as much as I used to. This 665 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 1: this is your generation. I'm telling you, man, hey for you, 666 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: I have plant it. 667 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: Good for you. I have nothing to say. 668 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm a practical guy. 669 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 4: What can I say? 670 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: I like it? Well? Justin thank you very much for 671 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: sitting in and being the judge. Cliff, well done, well done, 672 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: thank you, that's always fun. And of course to our 673 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: listeners out there, make sure you email your winner of 674 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: this year's Christmas Gifts draft that you can email us 675 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: at the Lounge at Ravens NFL dot net. Happy holidays 676 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: and Merry Christmas to y'all out there, be safe, enjoy 677 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: your loved ones, and we will see you after the 678 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: Ravens game in lambeau Field.