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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. I would like to teach

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Speaker 1: the world to see. Welcome back to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus

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Speaker 1: and I am joined by room Feld, the heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rose. Thought what is up? Boys? Hey,

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Speaker 1: d I think we'd like to go on the Don

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Speaker 1: But instead we are in the whirlwind. We're in the

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Speaker 1: training camp. I mean, don't you kind of feel like it.

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Speaker 1: You've got some bruises from two days this week, a

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Speaker 1: lot of podcasts, a lot of writing. It's like your

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Speaker 1: little fun time is over. You've been while you're looking specifically, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's very ominous. I've got a lot of responsibilities in

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Speaker 1: it's been a bit it's back to work type of Well,

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Speaker 1: wearing his hot professor glasses. What's about? It's up, Bob costamics.

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Speaker 1: How am I supposed to focus by? Yeah? Yeah, my

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Speaker 1: can do the I can do the professor. Look, do

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Speaker 1: you feel like people take you more seriously when you

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Speaker 1: wear glasses? No one takes me seriously anything, Greg True,

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Speaker 1: You're in charge of a lot of people's futures and fates. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So we are back our third show of the week.

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Speaker 1: Very exciting. Um. You know, West, I know you're you're

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Speaker 1: very busy man. Not only are you you're working with

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Speaker 1: octane long form. You have some big interviews coming up.

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Speaker 1: You've been a busy man. I've interviewed several people. Carl Mak,

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Speaker 1: tea's what you're working on. It's it's a love you Blue.

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Speaker 1: a f C Central teams of old, the Bengals and

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Speaker 1: the Oilers. The Browns have to be next, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: I figured that would be your long form debut. Oh no, no,

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Speaker 1: I am waiting for West to gush about the Browns

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Speaker 1: in eight thousand words. Well, it'll probably be something about

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Speaker 1: there at the airport, empty beer cans at him. Alight,

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Speaker 1: have a very nice show today. We're very excited. Um,

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Speaker 1: we have a lot to get to a lot of news.

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Speaker 1: Training camps are are they all open. Now, we're all open.

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Speaker 1: We're all in business now right now. You know, I

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Speaker 1: But with Greg's favorite team, the New England Patriots, and

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Speaker 1: Sally Wilcox told me during the pain rankings. He raised

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Speaker 1: the Titanic. Marvin Lewis didn't because he has brought the

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Speaker 1: more carries around a binder with him because he couldn't

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Speaker 1: bear to root for the team. And now they're losing

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But they go into the playoffs every

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Speaker 1: single year, and that's an achievement. I know nobody wants

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Speaker 1: to give him that credit, but it is. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of the starting pitcher where they say, oh, he's got

432
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Speaker 1: to be pretty good to lose fifteen games, like you've

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Speaker 1: got to be pretty good to last twelve years to

434
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Speaker 1: not make the playoffs. For AUTI, you can't have it

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Speaker 1: both ways, by the way, you can't bury Marvin Lewis

436
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Speaker 1: and then spend all season burying Andy Dalton. If Marven

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Speaker 1: Lois has a bad quarterback and he's getting in the

438
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 1: playoffs every year he's doing I've got a serviceable quarterback

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Speaker 1: and an excellent roster. As Hugh Jackson recently said, they're

440
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Speaker 1: a different kind of laughing stock. Now, not the embarrassment

441
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Speaker 1: to the entire league, just kind of it's funny that

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Speaker 1: every June and your every January they lose. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's move on Oklahoma drill time. Mark, you're the only

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Speaker 1: one that played football. Tell us about your most memorable

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma drill experience. Experience. I remember this directly. Actually, it

446
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: was in nineteen eighty nine and they would line up

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Speaker 1: long time, similar size players. So it was another small,

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Speaker 1: smallest cornerback type like myself, and he rolled me. And

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Speaker 1: then he got up and he goes, I'm Eric Metcalf

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Speaker 1: and I was like, number one, I'm a Browns fan,

451
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Speaker 1: and you better sit down. And they put us back

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Speaker 1: in the in the road next time around. This is

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Speaker 1: the best football hit I ever had. Mauled him, just

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Speaker 1: left him on the ground, and the position coach was like,

455
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Speaker 1: that's how you do it. But then it never happened again.

456
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: I never materialized into a serviceable player, and never we

457
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: were putting it on video if if anyone can someday

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Speaker 1: watch the little shimmy that Mark did while imitating the

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Speaker 1: am Eric metcal It's like, don't tell me that you're

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Speaker 1: Eric Metcast, especially because he's a small returner, not the

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Speaker 1: guy who's gonna be winning. I just can't believe there

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Speaker 1: were two Eric Metcast fans in suburban Connecticut. All Right,

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Speaker 1: I've gotta throw out the first first Oklahoma drill line up.

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Speaker 1: So this was from an article I did. You could

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Speaker 1: be surprised potential cuts, so they're kind of surprised. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And I threw Vernon Davis in there. I heard a

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Speaker 1: little whisper from someone, uh at the NFL media group

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Speaker 1: that Vernon Davis was on the cutting block that the

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Speaker 1: Forts were planning, you're gonna try to sign Julius Thomas.

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Speaker 1: They were gonna cut Vernon Davis. So that shows that

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Speaker 1: they weren't necessarily happy with him. They didn't get to

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Speaker 1: sign Thomas, but maybe he's not safe either. Vernon Dave

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Speaker 1: this or Riley Cooper battling for the number four receiver

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Speaker 1: spot in Philadelphia, who stays Bernon Davis is one of

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Speaker 1: the forty niners only realistic chances of having a nice

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Speaker 1: season this year if he returns to the Forum. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure they see that. In West and your piece you

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Speaker 1: did about Gore last week. I remember watching the video

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Speaker 1: of Vernon Davis making that incredible play. They got wiped

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Speaker 1: wiped out by penalty, but it reminded me that this

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Speaker 1: guy can still move and he can still play. I

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Speaker 1: know they see that, even though he might be a

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Speaker 1: pain in the ass or whatever. I would think they

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Speaker 1: want to hold on to him unless he's a complete headache.

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Speaker 1: And and you know they said he looked faster. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And Riley Cooper, he was dead last in PFF's rankings

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Speaker 1: this past year and he was one of the worst

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Speaker 1: wide receivers in football. So I would think he has

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Speaker 1: and they just drafted a wide receiver. But Nelson Aghilor,

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Speaker 1: you've got Jordan Matthews, Josh Huff, You've got a good

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Speaker 1: young tight end. Riley Cooper is not a need Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: What do you what if you well, I didn't make

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Speaker 1: up these matchups. There's well, what does advanced McDonald become

494
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Speaker 1: is you're playmaking tight end in San Francisco from now

495
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Speaker 1: for the next until end. It's not Marvin Lewis marks

496
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Speaker 1: stop yelling at me. I think they both stay. But

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Speaker 1: Riley Cooper is is damn mentioned. The only wide receiver

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Speaker 1: who played worse than him last year was Reggie Wayne.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was terrible last year. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they cut him. But you know, like Mark said, you've

501
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Speaker 1: got Josh Huff, You've got Jordie Nelson or uh Jordan

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Speaker 1: Matthews Nelson, Miles Austin. If if that's not really sweeten

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Speaker 1: in the but I'm just saying, if Cooper is not

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Speaker 1: their number in the top three receivers coming out of

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Speaker 1: camp doesn't play special teams can get cut. And if

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Speaker 1: you think about these two guys in a real Loclahoma drill,

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Speaker 1: it's not too hard to Part of the problem is

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Speaker 1: you cut, you cut the in Davis, you that position

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Speaker 1: group becomes nothing. You know what you got here? Curse

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Speaker 1: of five Riley Cooper, my favorite, my favorite sports curR

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Speaker 1: Danny five. Five years. Million dollar contracts never work out

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Speaker 1: unless you're Steve Kerr who won an NBA title. Oh

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Speaker 1: just work out for the signing to that deal, all right,

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Speaker 1: nex stop, I'll throw them out there. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Matt Castle mm hmmm. Or r G three in the

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma drill, our old friend, rise and grind because you

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Speaker 1: learn when you grind, and then you find r G

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Speaker 1: three Whatever the hell he said? Who has a better

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Speaker 1: chance to uh, you know, battle, and this seems I

520
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Speaker 1: think this is what we're talking about RG three because

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Speaker 1: he's a nice topic. But this is absolutely easy. Castle,

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Speaker 1: according to multiple Beat writers, look like the worst quarterback

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Speaker 1: of a bad quarterback group, and a lot of those

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Speaker 1: guys doing their roster projections don't even have him making

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Speaker 1: the team. R G three has the owners buying. If

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Speaker 1: anything is going, it's Jay Gruden who's going next year.

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Speaker 1: Well that's not guaranteed, but four million dollars of this

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Speaker 1: year's salary is guaranteed. And that's why it's really hard

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Speaker 1: to imagine r G three getting cut. But I did

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Speaker 1: have someone I did, you know, I was doing some

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Speaker 1: research for this one, and people threw it out there

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Speaker 1: that it wouldn't be that crazy if r G three

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Speaker 1: had a tough trade came. I think it would be

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Speaker 1: more likely to get traded than cut. Wouldn't require wouldn't

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Speaker 1: require the coach to win a battle with the owner

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Speaker 1: to make that hapse. Was gonna say more like Matt

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Speaker 1: Castle versus Jay Gruden. Take take RG three picture. You

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Speaker 1: put up Jake grud By the way some of you know,

539
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Speaker 1: we sometimes we get too close to because we cover

540
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Speaker 1: this league three sixty five days a year. If he

541
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Speaker 1: had a bad offseason program, I mean, what do you

542
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Speaker 1: have seven bad practices or like Castle castles to write

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Speaker 1: him off before training camps even started. We've got like

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Speaker 1: twelve years of game tape, Dan, We're filling time here,

545
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Speaker 1: and that's gonna say. I mean again, we can't use

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Speaker 1: the double standard here because people keep sighting the Patriots

547
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Speaker 1: going on eleven and five with Matt Castle. But now

548
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Speaker 1: you can't say he's always been garbage. He could play

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Speaker 1: a little bit. There's been times in his career. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they should sign la Damian Thomas in two in Minnesota

551
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs, but that's really the last time he's

552
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Speaker 1: had some moments of sustained just because his arm actually functions.

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Speaker 1: All right, West, You're all right. You've got two running

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Speaker 1: backs here, one old, one young. Uh Fred Jackson thirty

555
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: four years old. They've got Lashawn McCoy, You've got Booby Dixon,

556
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: You've got Bryce Brown, Fred Jackson versus Trent Richardson. And

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00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: you guys actually have something invested here. Isn't there a sandwich?

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00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: Mark and I way back, this is early in the offseason,

559
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: wajerd I said, that this is before Richards didn't even

560
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: signed with the Raiders. I said he'd never play another

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Speaker 1: snap in the NFL, and he signed with the Raiders

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00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: and Mark, you were excited, rightfully? So uh And I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm still not worried because when he gets the camp,

564
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna blow it because he can't play anymore. And Mark,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you have the honors. What was the report

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Speaker 1: that well this morning? Yeah, I screen captured this and

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Speaker 1: send it to Dan and said, what kind of sandwich

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Speaker 1: do you want? Because they said that the experiment in

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Speaker 1: quotes is not going so well. Oh yeah, So I

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Speaker 1: think Tom, if they ever cut him and he decided

571
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: it's over, I'm gonna go be a movie star instead.

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00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's well, you know something else

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Speaker 1: that was equally unsuccessful. I'm gonna go t rich here

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Speaker 1: because I think that Fred Jackson sticks around in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I think Rex Ryan likes his veterans, and if anyone's gone,

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Speaker 1: I think it's Bryce Brown. There was another coaching staff

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Speaker 1: that brought him in, and he just seems like the

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00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 1: odd man out. Because they have a rookie, I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna keep around. Well, Doug Whaley is the one

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Speaker 1: who traded a fourth round pick for Bryce Brown, general manager.

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Speaker 1: He's still there, so he might be invested yea. And

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Speaker 1: Brown has done nothing. So people on the bills believe

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Speaker 1: that Fred Jackson is going to stay in the ownership

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Speaker 1: stepped him to help keep him there. But he is older,

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Speaker 1: and if you have if can't kill Fred Jackson, he's recipues.

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Speaker 1: I know. I think it's definitely a fantasy. Guys have

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Speaker 1: been writing him off for seven years now. I just

588
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Speaker 1: didn't think it'd be the craziest thing ever if he

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Speaker 1: got cut behind. He's a team leader too. I got

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00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: myself a little bit of a Sessler. No, yeah, oh yeah,

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00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: how do we not have the Sessler ready to rip?

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00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: It's one of our favorite drops. We don't do drops,

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00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: all right, I'll do it. Doesn't have the same effects.

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Speaker 1: They're both gone, they're both I don't want it to happen.

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00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: I like Fred Jackson, especially thirty four years old, loaded backfield.

596
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: Rex likes him. He'll be one of the last cuts.

597
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: And if it was on Hard Knocks, it would have

598
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: been heartbreaking and t Rich sucks. But since it's not

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00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: on television, it's not heartbreaking. It's not nearly his heartbreaking. Finally,

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Speaker 1: who hasn't gun? All right? I'll go It's basically a

601
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: good old cornerback battle, the sexiest one for last. Brandon

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Speaker 1: Car the Cowboys years old and Leon Hall thirty years

603
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: old of the Bengals. Now, Brandon Carr was noticeably a

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Speaker 1: disaster at times last season, but I I'm thinking he

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00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: might be the one who wins this battle because they

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00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: said they're working on restructuring his deal, so he's gonna

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Speaker 1: make less money, but it sounds like there's some effort

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Speaker 1: to keep him around. Leon Hall might be the odd

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Speaker 1: man out. And since he this time around, I think

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Speaker 1: if they were gonna cut Brandon Car for money, they

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Speaker 1: would have done it by now. He's already survived till now,

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Speaker 1: so he's probably safe. Leon Hall, they've talked about moving

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Speaker 1: him to safety. They've got he sent first round picks

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00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: and Drake Kirkpatrick and dark has Danner did they want

615
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: to put in there? Pat Man Jones is still around.

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Speaker 1: I think Leon Hall is more likely to be cut

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Speaker 1: than than Brandon Carr. I think with with most of

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Speaker 1: these guys that are, not including Trent Richardson, but definitely

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Speaker 1: with Hall and Car, they are more likely to stay

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Speaker 1: with the team. We're looking for potential guys that could

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Speaker 1: get cut. You know, you never know if the rest

622
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: of the Dallas secondary has a great camp and then

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Speaker 1: the team keeps coming to Car. They're trying to get

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Speaker 1: him to take less money because he has paid like

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00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: a superstar too much. You know. Jerry Jones doesn't want

626
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: to give up anyone that could help him in a

627
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: year like this. Leon Hall, on the other hand, he

628
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: needs to be starting because he has paid like one

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Speaker 1: of the top cornerbacks. Well, yet the cars getting eight

630
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: and Hall's getting seven points seven and Hall's got come out.

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Speaker 1: He's had two torn achilles, is on the wrong side

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Speaker 1: of thirty. Seems like the type of guy that could

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Speaker 1: be cut at the end of camp. A couple achilles

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Speaker 1: tendon surgeries. Drake Kirkpatrick's coming on a little bit dark.

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Speaker 1: Wes Denard is a guy they took in the first round.

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Speaker 1: So those guys are looking for more playing time. Alright,

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Speaker 1: the olcohol and drills over. How did you like that?

638
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: Second thought? It was fun, It was good. He seemed

639
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Speaker 1: to be a little suspicious of it before we taped it. Well, yeah,

640
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 1: because then I was like, well, what would happen if

641
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: they actually battled? Like if Vernon Davis went against Riley Cooper,

642
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: which I actually could kind of see happening, who would

643
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: win that fight? I think Riley would be in trouble.

644
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,239
Speaker 1: T Rich versus Fred Jackson. T Rich wouldn't even make

645
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: it too much heart Vich wouldn't even make it to

646
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: the ring. He'd be busy doing something else. Brand New

647
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Speaker 1: Carver's Leon Hall car seems like he would be a

648
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Speaker 1: guy who would be a guy you'd one on your

649
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: side and the fight Hall would run right by him.

650
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: Matt Castle vers RG three, uh no, r G three

651
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: three would quit or something. Bryan to find your way

652
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: to shine and that's how you learn who you are.

653
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: But you can't tweet and fight at the same time.

654
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: All right, Final, let's move on left. Final, we got

655
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: a lot to get to. Big show today. Let's hit

656
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Speaker 1: up the mail bag. We all liked hit the mail bag,

657
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: so we we went through it. We cold, we cold

658
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Speaker 1: our way through? Is that that work? Do we do?

659
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: We called all the did you just you called that?

660
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: People know what you mean? Some people anyways, I'll start

661
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: this one, all right, Lets get it going from at

662
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: well from Jamie Wilson, whose Twitter handle is just his

663
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: name backwards. I'm not about to try to pronounce that.

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Speaker 1: Do the Broncos have the highest ceiling lowest floor? I e.

665
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: They could either win the Super Bowl or have a

666
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: top ten pick draft pick next year. That's a good question.

667
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: I like that one. I would think the Broncos were

668
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: would be the yes. To me, the most obvious because

669
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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. Everything hinges on Peyton, so I put them

670
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: at the top of the list. Think I might look

671
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: at the Dallas Cowboys because if everything goes right, they're

672
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: right at the door in the NFC, the right back

673
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: to where they got last year. But if everything goes

674
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: wrong there there's a lot of weaknesses on that team

675
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: on the defense especially, and I wonder if the floor

676
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: could fall out. I picked a couple of a f

677
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: C East teams too, Bills in the Jets also have

678
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: high ceilings and low floors just because of their quarterback situation.

679
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: But they both have a lot more talent this year

680
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: than they had last year. But I think the right

681
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: answer is the Bronco Yeah, and you could even lump

682
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: in the Dolphins there to me, but their ceilings, none

683
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: of those teams to me, their ceilings are as high

684
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: or as low as the Broncos is you know they're

685
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 1: super Broncos have lost this year, that is still one

686
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: of the most talented teams in the league. I don't

687
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: know about Lows, the farm doesn't cooperate. I could see

688
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: them definitely getting a top ten pick. Brock Oswiler fart

689
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: in his way to well would require like that second

690
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: season where in Minnesota, Well, it's just the figure of speech.

691
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: I don't think you would actually have gas. It would

692
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: just be he would perform poorly. About the Giants, they've

693
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: shown you can win Super Bowls with nine and seven record.

694
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: And then also Eli never gets hurt. They've got the

695
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: talent on offense that thats not gonna fall off about

696
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: you get some spags magic Detroit Lions, because any team

697
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: with Drew Brees has a chance to win the Super Lea.

698
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: We've named every team in the end about it. I

699
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: think Jamie Nilo, I think the Broncos are the answer.

700
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: And Wes you wanted to know how to pronounce Jamie's

701
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: name backwards? It's nasily warm ig fascinating. Yeah, alright, next up, also,

702
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 1: God bless you. Yeah, this is from Dale at Dale.

703
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: If I f you are, what is the Eagles record

704
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: this year? If Sam Bradford starts sixteen games and plays

705
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: to his potential. One thing I want to say, I

706
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: don't know if are we all on the same page

707
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: of what Sam Bradford's potential is. I'm not sure, but

708
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: I guess he's a top twelve quarterback, maybe in the

709
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: back end of the top twelve or something. I guess

710
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia's potential might be the guy who is the

711
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: last quarterback to make the Pro Bowl or something like that.

712
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: He's a he's a Pro Bowl replacement sometimes. Okay, so

713
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: very good quarterback. Twelve and four is my answer. I'll

714
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: go eleven and five because stay where they went where

715
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: they ten and six last year? About five they can

716
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: if they have an offense, are a quarterback that's humming

717
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: uh and playing at a really high level, they can

718
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: blow through the league. Yeah, I can put up thirty

719
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: eight points a game with Chip Kelly to check. Their

720
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: backfield to be much better this year, and their defensive

721
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: secondary to be much better this year. Their their defense,

722
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: to me, is a boomer Bus type of defense. I'm

723
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: gonna go twelve and four. Two I mean, I like

724
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Every year I picked them to win. But

725
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: let's just make it clear and I keep happening. We're

726
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: not predicting these records. This is in a best case scenario.

727
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: With their quurt were just answering a question. Answer the question.

728
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: All right, here we go Scott Lowry from the UK.

729
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: Baby here he says, what were your first first game?

730
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: You went to? First super Bowl? You're watched, first players,

731
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: you loved, first kiss? No, not first kiss. Feel free

732
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: to add others. Maybe just pick one, pick one his list.

733
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: There you go. First first super Bowl I watched was

734
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: the Bengals forty niners. I think it was Super Bowl sixteen.

735
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: I was probably like seven years old. I remember the

736
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: who Day cheers started in Cincinnati that that year. And

737
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 1: there's a brewery in Cincinnati called Huteable Brew and they

738
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: and everybody called it a Hughti, So Hughti made a

739
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: hoodie beer. So you would see all these orange and

740
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: black beers called who Days and they were sponsored by Hughty.

741
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: So I remember all that going on, and the Bengals

742
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: should have won the game. I believe they had four

743
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: turnovers and there was a big fourth, big first or

744
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: first and goal stand that they couldn't Uh, they couldn't

745
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: convert the fourth down, ran four times in a row

746
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: and couldn't get in the end. You know, Mark, nostalgia

747
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: is a powerful drug. Well, I was told by TV

748
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: that nostalgia is my thing. I don't even know what

749
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: that means, but it kind of yeah. I think he

750
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: actually the exact quote was nostalgias. That's what he saw. Um.

751
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: But my my first game that I went to was

752
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: October two night. It was the Jets hosting the Kansas

753
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: City Chiefs, and this was a fitting game for it

754
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: to be my first game ever. It was in a

755
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: driving rainstorm and a late kickoff. My dad took me.

756
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: I was obviously very excited about it, and a downpour

757
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: of the game. The Jets blew a lately in the

758
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and then blew two golden scoring opportunities in overtime,

759
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: and McNeil had a fumble like inside the twenty I

760
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: believe when they're in field goal range. Final score seventeen seventeen,

761
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: the last high in Jets history. My mine was just

762
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: like your Jets. Things started typically. My throne of v

763
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: started even back when the Patriots stunk first game I

764
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: ever went to. Doug Flutie takes an end around around

765
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: the corner against the Colts to win one of their

766
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: only wins all year and get it, get a victory

767
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Well, we're on a time here. First kiss,

768
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: seventh grade movie theater, Robin Herman Romancing the Stone. I

769
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: believe that wasn't even part of the question, said free,

770
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: said feel free to add others. I just wanted to

771
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 1: jump jump in there. All right, we got limited time.

772
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: That was good, alright, alright, let's uh, we've looked into

773
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: the past. I'm going into the future because that's my thing. Mark.

774
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew that. What will the

775
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: NFL look like in twenty five years? This is from

776
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: Ben krellin will there be no helmets, no extra points?

777
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: More than thirty two teams? International teams? What's the future

778
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: the NFL gonna be in twenty There's laser beams involved, Uh,

779
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: there are let's yeah, there's silver jumpsuits with maybe just

780
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: the logo over the chest, and everyone's on disks. This

781
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: question reminds me of an article I remember from the

782
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated Old College in pro Spectacular Football Previews from

783
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: or eighty four, someone asked, there was an article, what

784
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: would the NFL look like in the year two thousands?

785
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: Look like Odell Beckham. Every player would be that talented.

786
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: You know. They got a few things wrong that Greg

787
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: would like to have seen by now, Like uh, kind

788
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: of like lasers on the goal line to figure out

789
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: if the ball. They thought there would be a computer

790
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 1: chip in the ball. These things they have been happened

791
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: yet stupid, but they did get right. The uniforms would

792
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: be a lot more streamlined, the shoulder pads would be

793
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: practically non existent, and the padding in the legs would

794
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: be a lot less. They got all of this right.

795
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 1: I mean we're basically saying, how much is the game

796
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: changed from today and now? Then? Yes, and Greg and

797
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: I debated this downstairs. I mean, sadly, I think around

798
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: massive catechopcluismic event apocalyptic downfall takes down America. There is

799
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: no football. It's gone. Wow, I should have seen that coming.

800
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: I'm always I'm always upset with myself that I don't

801
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: see Mark sending it down a dark human humanity crater.

802
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm just glad you didn't have like all thirty two

803
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks get there. You know torn a c l

804
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: is on the same day to start the season in

805
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: twenty No, Greg, it was actually torn Pateller is much

806
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: harder to come back from. Well, look, you asked for

807
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: an honest answer. The earth is wiped cleaned by that point,

808
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: more scoring less, you know less tackling some international teams

809
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: for sure, at least one international team. What you've just

810
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: said makes me reevaluate my life. Greg. I'm gonna have

811
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: to quit if we're all gonna be wiped out. I'm

812
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: gonna have to start doing some other things with years.

813
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: I want to keep writing low octane posts about hamstring strains.

814
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: So I'm staying right here, Greg, don't stay alright, you

815
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: v Let's hit the Let's hit a little lightning round

816
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: if you will, will hit a few more questions, This

817
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: one from Anthony Phillips said. Phillips underscore Anthon, which is

818
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: would be Anthony If you took out the y, he

819
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: would be known as Anthon? Which all right? Which producer

820
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: survives the longest on a tropical island? T? D. Sully

821
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: gold Standard or the irishman Brandon McGinnis. I because I

822
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: have Irish heritage, I can tell you right away Brandon's done.

823
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: The sun would destroy him. His skin, it's too translucent.

824
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: He's dead within a week. So Brandon's out. Sorry buddy,

825
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 1: because because of the skin. That's all. I'm going Sully,

826
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: because you know he knows how to fish. We know

827
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: that for a fact. Side, I think he literally came

828
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: the shirt to work as in a Fisher shirt for

829
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: I'm going t D on this one. Okay, I've seen

830
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: some workout videos he's posted on social media. This guy's

831
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: in in excellent shape. He's gonna survive. He's got a

832
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: pretty hot body. But it is also a little weird

833
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: that he's posting workout videos. Do you think you do

834
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: in the wild? That's why I've never brought it up

835
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: before because it's a little uncomfortable, uh, that he would

836
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: be posting workout videos on social media that you're watching

837
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: on repeat. I'm going I mean, gold standard, love gold standard,

838
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: But I gotta go t D because he's currently producing

839
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: the show You've got to build ally, look at you

840
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: the most desperate m v P grab yet there, Mark, Well,

841
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: that would be absurd if I don't go t D.

842
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: And I'm hearing about that for the next three months.

843
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: Let's be political. What's the difference between the speed round

844
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: and the rest of it? I don't know. Gold standard

845
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: could be pretty resources. He's the underdog, he's resourceful. Uh

846
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: McGinnis is really pissed at me, by the way behind

847
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: the glass. Next up from Frank rich Walski. Oh yeah, uh,

848
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: Mark West, can you share a fond memory of being

849
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: being a Bengals fan in your youth? And can you

850
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: do it quickly? Uh? My dad? That would be I

851
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: lost my dad a couple of years ago. He was

852
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: not a fan of the ownership in Cincinnati, which might

853
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: surprise you guys, but he was a big fan of

854
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: Rodney Holman, their tight end. He could. He tried not

855
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: to get excited for games, but every time he saw

856
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: Rodney holmem and catch the ball and just run over

857
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: six or seven guys kind of get up and give

858
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: a fist pump or something. And he raised seven sons.

859
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: So he did what he deserved a little bit more

860
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: winning than he got. Football was the release for the

861
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: old man, all right. Next up Big j Powski at

862
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: Gigham Nation. Uh, Greg, this was really for you. Please.

863
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: Can we have an update on the hashtag onto London campaign? Well,

864
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna put this on a Shadowy League figure.

865
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: He knows who he is listening out there, he's he said,

866
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Speaker 1: we're going, So I'm gonna hold him to that. I

867
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 1: haven't seen any documents about it. I think we're gonna

868
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: go too by two by two Kevin Patrick and Connor

869
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: or Uh, we'll also go and so we'll try to

870
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: hit up each game. How about that? Really? Well, I

871
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 1: think when a Shadowy League figure says this is gonna happen,

872
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen that now it's on. Now it's on,

873
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: doesn't mean does that mean it's a done deal? Sounds

874
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: that it's happening. So we're all going, but we're gonna

875
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: go in different shifts. Yeah, we'll go to town. You

876
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: get to go to the Jets game. Oh that's very exciting.

877
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: All right, we gotta get the pub set up for that. Uh.

878
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: Next up, this is from our friend Neil Hutton and

879
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: Dutton thirteen. Look Stu brid Uh, the old Zeuser, quiet Storm,

880
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: the Boss, and the Mailman. What's the worst nickname you've

881
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: ever had? Mark? You had one that? Ah? Yeah, I

882
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: went through middle school with Cesspool based off my last name.

883
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: Also cecil by the mill a little bit better than

884
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: cessibool West anything North American gap tooth weasel. Wow, whoa,

885
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: that's heavy. I've been called that by my high school buddies,

886
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: and they still bringing up every once in a while.

887
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: It's now endeering. I don't know if it was at first.

888
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 1: I had Stein in high school a lot, just because

889
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: they were amazed that a Jewish could lived among a

890
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: bunch of Irush Catholics. So that was just that that

891
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: was a bad one. Um. I have a dear friend

892
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: of mine, Brian, when we lived in Hollywood together, he

893
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: would call me the spider pig. Well that's sticking. Yeah,

894
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: well that was the time you've been looking for a nickname.

895
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: Sign we might have a winner. Um. And finally this

896
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: one comes from downstairs David Eally. Um. He is our

897
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: long time now uh editor kind of runs the desk. Uh.

898
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: This is his question, Um, who is Drake and who

899
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: is Meek mill? In the Lashawn McCoy chip Kelly feud. Now,

900
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: I know that this really a lot of people in

901
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: this room right now don't know about any of these names,

902
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: or even if they are names I know about. I

903
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: saw the feud as it first came out, Alright, alright,

904
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: classes well, just I got really actually from upstairs. He's

905
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: gonna just put on the mic. He's behind the glass

906
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: to to the to the forties something crowd. Hey, really,

907
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: how are and don't be nervous, buddy, I'm not nervous.

908
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: You've been talking about this for months? Can I finally

909
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: get on the podcast? And today's your dame? A little

910
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: by the way, a little pull back the curtain moment.

911
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: One other time, Eli was supposed to be on the show.

912
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: This is about a couple of years ago, and he

913
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: actually was in the studio and we started taping, and

914
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: then the face of the network, Rich Eisen, had to

915
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: come in and he s preceded us that we were

916
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: just kicked out of the studio and two years later,

917
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: really finally makes it back. How does it feel? I

918
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: like to think it's worth of weight? Yeah, alright, So

919
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: can you explain to West and Mark? Are you aware

920
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: of this feud? I would like the next I'm not

921
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: being insulting. I'm just saying where the feud involving Drake exists?

922
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: Oh wow, good for you? All right, go ahead, all right, Well,

923
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: was this first started kind of out the blue? Last week?

924
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: Meek Mill Ramoly tweeted out stopped comparing me to Drake too,

925
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: he don't write his own raps. Now. This apparently was

926
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: in response to the fact that Drake never tweeted out

927
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: the release of Meek Mill's new album. And then Meek

928
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: Mill revealed that in his mind that Drake on a

929
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: feature track had someone ghost right his own verse. You

930
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: can't do that, So I did agree with that. Meek

931
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: Mill puts Drake on blast. Drake silent for a few

932
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: days because why is Drake gonna go stooped down to

933
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: meet Mill's level? And then over the weekend he hits

934
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: out I'm Charged Up, which was kind of a more

935
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: of a slow melancholy put that out, Yes it was,

936
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: but the thing the the art was Joe Carter being hoisted. No, no,

937
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: there's two distracts. So first off was I'm Charged Up,

938
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: which again was a slow burn. And then four days

939
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: pass and then this is where really Drake just owned it.

940
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: He went up back to back with the Joe Carter

941
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: one and he just lit into Meek Mill called him out. Wow.

942
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: TV has never had more fun on this podcast. So

943
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: now you're you're caught up, and now the question is

944
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: who is Drake. So you think that Drake won this

945
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: battle this He basically said, Nicki Minaje better get that

946
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: prenup before she marries Meek Mill. And that's that's something

947
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: of shade as well. Meek Mill of course, with I

948
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: know who Nicki pop star, um, who is Drake? And

949
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: who is Meek Mill? And the Shawn McCoy chip Kelly

950
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: feud West. I like five seconds into Ely's explanation, I

951
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: started thinking of a twenty five year old British girl

952
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: I met over the weekend, and you just lost me

953
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: the rest of the way. I don't even know what

954
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: the west glad. I would rather hear Greg, who claims

955
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: to be very deeply woven into this controversy a year take,

956
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: because I don't have a hot take necessary. Well, I

957
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: think chip Kelly is ultimately is ultimately Drake because he's

958
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: coming out looking looking Yes, that's the correct and and

959
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: it and it reminds me of my favorite dis track

960
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: of all time, A long lost one second round Ko

961
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: by Cannabis on LL cool J. And people listening out

962
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: there knows exactly what I was talking about, and everyone

963
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna have a great career after that,

964
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: but it was. It was just kind of like a

965
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: one one hit the old format. We could sample that

966
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: right now. I would say, yeah, I would say, I

967
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: think you're referring to He said of your fans are

968
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: in high heels, came back said of your fans don't exist,

969
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: which was a pretty good return. By the way, maybe

970
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: didn't get killed there after one thing. Dan set this

971
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: up with really, And there was a tweet we got

972
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: a week ago where someone said, because we mentioned Eally's

973
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: rather wanting tinder game, and someone was like, I like

974
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: this Eely guy. I want to hear more from him.

975
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: So we were giving the fans what they wanted right here.

976
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: A good job, Dan, Do you have a girlfriend? Really? No?

977
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: I do not, Ladies, he's single at David really, David

978
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: underscore he's single, all right. Um. By the way, I

979
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: had teased the surprise, Dave, you could stay on. I

980
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: actually no, you gotta give up the headset. Sorry buddy,

981
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, David, Thank you. I was gonna have you

982
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: on you couldn't and West doesn't want to change his

983
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: wire over, so you can't be on the show anymore.

984
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: Let's let's get the ratings up, not me. Look, I

985
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: would love for my wire to be visible and not

986
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 1: to worry about it. Don't put it on me. Every

987
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: year it is something. Last year it was the hat,

988
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: remember when West what nuts about having to take his

989
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: hat off. This year it's the wire. The battle of

990
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: the wire has been there from the beginning. That's true too,

991
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: all right. I teased the surprise. I was thinking of,

992
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Connor organ m on the air, but

993
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: I guess it's not happening. It is not. We've had

994
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: some you know, breaking news that he's attending to Sheldon Richardson,

995
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: as West alluded to charge with the resisting arrest. So

996
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: I thought that was a joke West story right now Sheldon,

997
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: So he's busy doing his journal thing. That's not good.

998
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: All right, Well maybe next week we'll bring back are

999
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Um? So that's it. Finally before we

1000
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: go usually, uh TD, you have to remind us about

1001
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: the m v P. And for first of all, I

1002
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: just got to say that I didn't know we can

1003
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: talk hip hop on the show. I know me and

1004
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: Greg have going back and forth a couple of times,

1005
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, if we're talking good more and

1006
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: talk thiss tracks, we can do it all day. But

1007
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: that's the podcast. It's that we have the theology podcast

1008
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: set up. We had another podcast, can't remember it. The

1009
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: dis track podcast is also on. It will naturally come

1010
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: up in our conversation maybe a mail bag in about

1011
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: three and a half more years, so just before and

1012
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: I can go. All right, So anyway, I'm that was

1013
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: good though, a little hip hop talk. I know we

1014
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: were a little we leaned a little alternative rocky with

1015
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: our one hit Wonder of the nineties things, So keeping

1016
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: it real. Alright, alright, guys, before the end of the show,

1017
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: you know what time it is podcast m v P

1018
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: and Today's Winner. Because my may man, my brother from

1019
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: another Mr Mark Sessor, what this is first time ever?

1020
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: This is it? Man? You know it came with a

1021
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: good show before the show, like you said, Dan said

1022
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: it was it was. It was kind of hot and

1023
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: heavy in here. And but Mark was only one who

1024
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: was holding it down. So just because he blatantly pandered, listen,

1025
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't care how I get it, that's fine. It's

1026
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: an interesting move by t D. It might be subverting

1027
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: his own segment that he right, and he's take he's

1028
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: taken out the one redeeming bit I have to tell you,

1029
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 1: t D. I never came out against your podcast, against

1030
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: your m v P segment, because I thought it was,

1031
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, kind of added an edge. When you never

1032
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: gave it to Cessler, you remove that which segs nicely

1033
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: to something I want to bring up for the listeners

1034
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: and to t D. I've started a poll um on

1035
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: a website. It's the question asked, should we continue t

1036
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: d's m v P segment? And once we tweet this

1037
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: that we're gonna send it out. We're gonna have the

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00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: listeners decide t D whether the whether the m v

1039
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: P segment continues your thoughts A little behind the scenes

1040
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: factive reason mark one because I feel like this might

1041
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: be the last one we done. I feel bad, do

1042
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: you do you that's not so? This was just a ruse.

1043
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: I feel bad because I voted no on that pole.

1044
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: What did you guys vote? I just voted a flat

1045
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: out no. And now I'm wondering if I did the

1046
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: rest because about the reel off six in a row.

1047
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm not saying what I voted, but there were some

1048
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: yet I will send out the pole, by the way,

1049
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: let's see what the listeners think. Maybe t D if

1050
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: it's a nine. Yes, you'll be swayed to continue it,

1051
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: although you've ruined any dramatic element by giving. Jim and

1052
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: Tam have now gotten together, thank you. So anyway, that's

1053
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Speaker 1: it UM for today's edition of the Around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 1: We will be back with three shows next week every

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Speaker 1: week now right Monday, Wednesday, Friday Monday, Training Camp until

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Speaker 1: next June, and uh until next June, and it goes

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Speaker 1: on and on and on or on. So signing off

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Speaker 1: Fourth Quiet Star, The Mailman, Field, Zu Sor The Boss,

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Speaker 1: and TV Behind the Glass until next week. M