Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast
Speaker 1: The Gangs Back Together. I like it in the bands
Speaker 1: together in the same room where I can touch you
Speaker 1: and see your faces. You know. It's so that's all right,
Speaker 1: a real lovey, cuddly Catherine. That's me. Have you guys
Speaker 1: had any embarrassing moments to start your year? Because I
Speaker 1: have this sounds like it. Do tell well it involves you.
Speaker 1: Oh oh no, did I embarrass you? Oh? I got
Speaker 1: nervous what happened? So I was, oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not letting you be this way. Oh I am
Speaker 1: I'm going to be this way. I can't. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's up. I'm not entertaining this. I'm going to
Speaker 1: fill you in on this. Cat. This is what happened,
Speaker 1: ready for it. So I'm not letting this is embarrassed.
Speaker 1: This is cringe e like fringe. It's cringe because you
Speaker 1: love me. But it does not need to be cringe
Speaker 1: e because I love you. So I was in Scotland
Speaker 1: with my boyfriend and boyfriend we got a B word
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I'm not reacting this time. I know
Speaker 1: they always get my like faces anyway. So anyways, in
Speaker 1: Scotland with the boyfriend and say it again. We'd like
Speaker 1: to hear it. But I was putting my makeup on,
Speaker 1: and you know, I like to when either when I'm
Speaker 1: running or do my makeup, I like to make some
Speaker 1: FaceTime calls. I don't FaceTime Catherine because she hates facetiming.
Speaker 1: So there's certain people that FaceTime. By the way, I
Speaker 1: don't thoroughly enjoy it, but like face timing you just
Speaker 1: so we're clear because you don't like it. Not my
Speaker 1: preference really well, especially when I'm facetiming my sweet beautiful
Speaker 1: actress friend with her brand new boobs, like just's some
Speaker 1: sort of wapping the floor at home. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: like a side ponytail and she's like Baywatch theme music
Speaker 1: is playing and she's on the treadmill and like there
Speaker 1: she is, Hey, BF, what's going on? So people stand
Speaker 1: in the darkness. I'm like, Pam Anderson is online one
Speaker 1: I better answer that anyway. So anyhoo, I thought you
Speaker 1: liked facetiming, and that's the second part of this embarrassing
Speaker 1: now story. I actually really only like it with certain
Speaker 1: people and I love it with you, so that should
Speaker 1: be good. Well, I I just like to see people's faces. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I talk and Katherine, to be fair, we're not
Speaker 1: really like we were were way more text her. We're
Speaker 1: way more text her. But we also see each other
Speaker 1: in personally, that's true. Yeah, we don't see each other
Speaker 1: in person as much. Right. So, well, so I was
Speaker 1: facetiming with you. I was like, oh, I'm putting a
Speaker 1: makeup on, and so he has he'll talk to like
Speaker 1: his brother whoever, and and so I've wanted for him
Speaker 1: to meet my people too. Rite so I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna FaceTime Kristen, and then you know, you can
Speaker 1: meet the b off again because you've based on him
Speaker 1: a few times. But the first time he was like
Speaker 1: driving and he was trying to concentrate on keeping you safe,
Speaker 1: and he was in his turtle neck looking dap so cute,
Speaker 1: and so um we FaceTime. We're having this great conversation
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's awesome you you talked to him,
Speaker 1: Uh were you know, I'm doing my makeup, I'm getting
Speaker 1: ready for like a really fun night out in Scotland,
Speaker 1: and I'm just waking up. It's a great conversation. It's
Speaker 1: so great. Cut two the next day, we land back
Speaker 1: in England and I'm driving what you're driving? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not driving, not only just don't even do the highways.
Speaker 1: So when a really slow white car, I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: probably Cramer. Definitely not Cramer. Did you see how she drove?
Speaker 1: That's true. You know why I thought I was driving
Speaker 1: because I was in the driver's seat. Oh yeah, in England, right,
Speaker 1: So it's like the other side, it's so strange. Um okay.
Speaker 1: So anyways, so driving and it was like, I'm scrolling
Speaker 1: on Instagram and I see your birthday post and I go,
Speaker 1: oh ship, and I'm almost so loud that he got
Speaker 1: into an accident, you know. I freaked mys like what
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, oh no, oh no,
Speaker 1: oh no. I go yesterday, I go it was Christine's birthday.
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, I go. We face time with her.
Speaker 1: I had her on the phone. She was actually like
Speaker 1: the first call of the day. So I was like,
Speaker 1: we'll look at Cramer not and I was like, hey girl, girl,
Speaker 1: hey girl girl, not even like and I'm like, what's
Speaker 1: even worse is we were on the phone with her
Speaker 1: and I didn't say happy birthday. It is not even
Speaker 1: this big of a d live for my birthday. But
Speaker 1: I never expect anyone else to live for my birthday,
Speaker 1: like it means a lot to me, one of your
Speaker 1: best friends. And the fact that I forgot what day
Speaker 1: it was, I mean, you can and you were so
Speaker 1: sweet like you're you've been traveling and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I was like, you don't. I was like, first of all,
Speaker 1: San Diego, I don't even know where you are. You
Speaker 1: don't know what day it is. You don't even know
Speaker 1: if you've arrived the same day you left, Like, how
Speaker 1: would you know it's my birthday? Because I should have
Speaker 1: I should have done in a day. I don't care
Speaker 1: the excuses that was. I felt so bad, but the
Speaker 1: fact that we were on the phone together made it
Speaker 1: so much worse. I mean, I wasn't expecting you guys
Speaker 1: to be like hit it and and shethday. You're a
Speaker 1: singer and he has a Scottish accent. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be good, just kidding, kidding. So when
Speaker 1: I didn't say happy birthday, I mean, you so gracefully
Speaker 1: just hung up the phone. I love you. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was let me just waking up. What did you think,
Speaker 1: go ahead, you can call me the you know, just terrible.
Speaker 1: I honestly, honestly, I was like so cute that she
Speaker 1: called me on my birthday. I just moved along like
Speaker 1: I wasn't. It doesn't make it like it has to
Speaker 1: be like I'm tracing you for your birthday, happy birthday.
Speaker 1: Like it's like you already one, Like what are we doing?
Speaker 1: So you thought she was calling you for your birthday?
Speaker 1: I forgot to say happy birthday because she's also with
Speaker 1: her boyfriend the word, and I was like, oh, that's exciting,
Speaker 1: Like I just don't. I'm just so like, but she
Speaker 1: really forgot that it was your birthday? Well, I don't
Speaker 1: think she knew a day it was. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: her like she's not here. I don't think we're not
Speaker 1: getting together. I honestly was like she had just gotten there,
Speaker 1: So I was like she might just even not know,
Speaker 1: like when she wrote and she was like, I'm so embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not allowed to be embarrassed. You don't
Speaker 1: even maybe know what day it is, And I truthfully didn't.
Speaker 1: I had no idea what because when I'm there, it's
Speaker 1: such a different world, right, So I don't have my
Speaker 1: responsibilities and I don't have work, like a lot of
Speaker 1: work to do, and so I didn't I truly didn't
Speaker 1: know what day it was. And we also don't arrive
Speaker 1: the same day that you was the fact we were
Speaker 1: on the phone. Okay, that really just I believe I
Speaker 1: should have done and said hey you. I cannot believe
Speaker 1: I forgot to say happy birthday. That's the whole reason
Speaker 1: I called you, and we would have moved right through
Speaker 1: and we would not have listened to honest. I then
Speaker 1: went knee deep and was like, I got I got it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I know, you actually made a reel
Speaker 1: that made me cry. I was just like, I was like,
Speaker 1: I was going to do a post anyways, but I
Speaker 1: was like, you got a whole. I gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: a hole. And I was like, I go, I gotta
Speaker 1: make this up to her one second and I go
Speaker 1: give me the next twenty minutes. I mean, I read
Speaker 1: out take for like the last like nine years, and
Speaker 1: I was so adding. I was just like making this
Speaker 1: real because I was like, I gotta make this so good.
Speaker 1: But the best part was he was so cute. He
Speaker 1: was trying to help me pick the song Hasty be
Speaker 1: Jessica Simpsons song, and so we're listening to Jessica Simpson
Speaker 1: music and she's obsessed Jessica Simpson. I go, but no
Speaker 1: one else is going to get this. So I'm like
Speaker 1: with you with and he's like, I can't in person
Speaker 1: in his Scottish accent, he's like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's that's that's totally British, so it's like terrible, I can't,
Speaker 1: But in his cute little Scottish accent, he's like, I
Speaker 1: don't think people are going to get that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He's like that when it sounds, it
Speaker 1: sounds like you're you're like lesbian lovers with her. I
Speaker 1: was like, well, I am, also, yeah, like we can't.
Speaker 1: We actually have a secret side promise that we'll raise
Speaker 1: our babies together things at the fans. Yeah. Meanwhile, I'm
Speaker 1: panicking because you post the day after and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I texted her on the wrong day, but then you
Speaker 1: didn't respond, So I was like, I don't even know
Speaker 1: if I have which is fine, everyone's texting on your birthday.
Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, but I'm just like wrong. So
Speaker 1: I got a Facebook and I'm like dude, I have
Speaker 1: the wrong or right, and then queened him also Julie
Speaker 1: Tech Happy birthday, Chris. I was like, oh yeah, got
Speaker 1: the wrong day. Well, the queendom chats full of Leo's too,
Speaker 1: so I just never expect the Leo's to come out first.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm usually terrible with birthdays, and I got you.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It doesn't matter to me with birthdays.
Speaker 1: I am, I love you. It's seventh. I'm always and
Speaker 1: you always say you guys. Am I the only one
Speaker 1: that is just like not concerned like I really am,
Speaker 1: and especially mine because I'm January three. It's like it's
Speaker 1: been Christmas, it's been New Year, like everyone is finally
Speaker 1: taking a deep breath, and now you're you have to
Speaker 1: expect to get like calendar rally and come back for me.
Speaker 1: I'm January three. I'm fine. I mean, but I reeled
Speaker 1: it hard. That was like, my so sorry, you made
Speaker 1: me cry. And then I felt bad because I was
Speaker 1: sitting with Preston husband watching he made a real two
Speaker 1: and it didn't make me cry. So I felt bad
Speaker 1: because he's like I was like, look what look what
Speaker 1: Kreamer made for me? And he's like you, he gets
Speaker 1: I have like artist's best friend, artist husbands. Everybody gets
Speaker 1: really ultra competitive. Who's going to get the A C
Speaker 1: M for best real and the birthday? Anyway, So it
Speaker 1: was cute and I was not upset at all. I
Speaker 1: don't get upset. I know, well, I love you and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and I'm going to do better with birthdays.
Speaker 1: I just truly I you know, I had to put
Speaker 1: them in my phone. I forget to put them in
Speaker 1: my phone. I've been trying to be better about that,
Speaker 1: and then I do the reoccurring so every year. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I haven't celebrated yours because you were out of town,
Speaker 1: so we owe it to each other. Where was I?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I was here alone? Yeah by myself. Oh no,
Speaker 1: she was supposed to be out of town. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: good job. Yeah. And You're like, hey, guys, just kidding.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, as I'm pulling my suitcase
Speaker 1: through bn A, I'm like, catch you next time. What
Speaker 1: were gonna say? Cattle? Anyway, I feel like you don't
Speaker 1: really look at your calendar, so you probably would have
Speaker 1: Catherine her birthday. Katherine does work, Katherine, how do you
Speaker 1: feel about that and then she says I She goes,
Speaker 1: don't forget whatever, and I'm like question mark or I
Speaker 1: just I'm like, nope, please see notes. Please, yeah, just
Speaker 1: check your calendar well, because it's hard because it's like
Speaker 1: the time difference is really tricky to uh with with
Speaker 1: being over there, and I know, like we wanted to
Speaker 1: FaceTime you, Preston. I wanted to FaceTime you, but it
Speaker 1: would be so late for you, like you would be
Speaker 1: middle of the night, right because it was like eight
Speaker 1: o'clock for us. Yeah, and then when he gets home
Speaker 1: from work, that's the time where I put it away,
Speaker 1: which is when you guys are all wanting to you know,
Speaker 1: work or videos, and I'm like, I just want to
Speaker 1: spend time with the man. What happens when he gets
Speaker 1: home from work? Wow, we light a fire, which is
Speaker 1: so fun. I love lighting fires. You've always been good
Speaker 1: at lighting fires and must be we've had this yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh we was really busting her though. The last FaceTime
Speaker 1: he was like, and I can't do a Scottish accent either,
Speaker 1: so one of us needs to sign up to get
Speaker 1: really good at that. You can do it when I'm
Speaker 1: around him, but when I when I'm not. I like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what my net, but it's probably British.
Speaker 1: Let's try it. She's not doing a very good job
Speaker 1: and lighting the fire. I don't know what. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that is. I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: we need like a queendom goes overseas, Queendom to the Kingdom.
Speaker 1: We do a wine down tour of that. Let's do
Speaker 1: it in England. Yes, to the Palace we go. Wait, guys,
Speaker 1: i'd be really fun. We need to do so are
Speaker 1: you listening? We need to do We need your money?
Speaker 1: This is getting right? Um? We should. That would be
Speaker 1: so fun because there's so many tree Hiller fans in England. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like it. On the check Jackie, there's a
Speaker 1: little chat that happens when we record, and sometimes I
Speaker 1: ignored the chat because I think we're getting in trouble.
Speaker 1: First good thing. That would be so much fun, though,
Speaker 1: we should do it. That'd be really fun and then
Speaker 1: we can just have fun. Yeah, well, you guys eventually
Speaker 1: meet him, right, but I'm saying like, let's go a
Speaker 1: step so we can meet him. Well, this next podcast,
Speaker 1: that would be so much fun. It would be super
Speaker 1: super fun for one of us. Okay, it really actually
Speaker 1: would be fun for all of us. Also, I've never
Speaker 1: been so you've never been were in any of the
Speaker 1: any of these? Have you ever ever seen? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we never is that overseas. I haven't been anywhere like that.
Speaker 1: You've never been to Europe. I never had it until
Speaker 1: you were supposed to, and her passport was still working
Speaker 1: on that. I never goot it for new We need
Speaker 1: to work on your passport it yet. Okay, let's edit
Speaker 1: that out because we need my heart to favor, don't
Speaker 1: to be ready to go? Yeah, yeah, no, you gotta
Speaker 1: because you never know. I'm doing it right now and
Speaker 1: my family actually dating someone in London exactly expedite. It's
Speaker 1: on the calendar. Speaking of um traveling, we have a
Speaker 1: real estate agent coming on the show, not a travel agent,
Speaker 1: not a travel agent, but she going with con She
Speaker 1: has a million dollar listing, so you know, if you
Speaker 1: want to she's also adorable, she's she's a badass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but now she's she's on a million million dollar listing
Speaker 1: l A. It's on Bravo. So it's like, you know, traveling,
Speaker 1: if you want to go to l A, I got
Speaker 1: to go buy a million dollar listening in l A. No,
Speaker 1: I'd like to sell my house. That's for sale. My
Speaker 1: house is for say all everyone dmzu've for dress. Um No,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm building a new house and I'm really
Speaker 1: excited and I have to go. It's it's now officially
Speaker 1: ago and I can officially I can officially officially say
Speaker 1: now that I am officially actually, um, this is exciting.
Speaker 1: We'll have to sell my house. You're going to sell
Speaker 1: your house, but God's just making sure that you don't
Speaker 1: have to go live somewhere else in between, right. I
Speaker 1: like it, but I'm really excited. It was last September
Speaker 1: where I texted Nick, Catherine's husband, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: I need to I need to get out of here.
Speaker 1: It was I started to like see things from like
Speaker 1: because I built this house with Mike, you know, and
Speaker 1: so I just I just want new memories, fresh beginnings
Speaker 1: and uh so, but I also, you know, obviously talked
Speaker 1: to the kids and I was like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: we're still going to be very close, like even closer
Speaker 1: to Pam in Harlem and everybody. So uh and we
Speaker 1: found a lot that is very private and it just
Speaker 1: feels really good and so yeah, so I've I've been
Speaker 1: kind of quiet about it, so much so that you
Speaker 1: didn't even know I was. My house was up for sale.
Speaker 1: That quendom chat guys sterical, we can revisit it, let's
Speaker 1: do it, Okay, okay, okay. So I follow Nick consocials
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he's like private listing coming
Speaker 1: in in Tennessee, and I'm like, that's Creamer's house. So
Speaker 1: I copy it and send it in the queendom and
Speaker 1: I said, it looks like I might be behind, but
Speaker 1: does anybody else confused where they're going for the next
Speaker 1: one night because I don't think I have the correct
Speaker 1: address anymore. And then it got really good because Julie
Speaker 1: Solomon is hilarious, so funny, and then it just really
Speaker 1: spiraled out of control, like Janna leaving us out of everything,
Speaker 1: and I just really needed to like have a minute
Speaker 1: to process it myself, just because I'm so so there's
Speaker 1: just like one step between like yourself. And then it
Speaker 1: go into socials that we get just little lippy loppy. Well,
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about it, like Nick, everybody didn't care.
Speaker 1: I knew you weren't going far right, but I was like,
Speaker 1: well this is I loved it. The funniest part of it,
Speaker 1: I think Catherine barely knew too. I mean I really truly.
Speaker 1: I just texted Nick and was just like I would
Speaker 1: like to start talking about I just I just and
Speaker 1: then cleaned your house and how to film crew and
Speaker 1: then yea and had people come and I was like,
Speaker 1: let's put it up there and then and because I
Speaker 1: was just I just I'm craving that new lightness and
Speaker 1: that energy and specially think it's important you didn't run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you made peace with the space and now it's time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be great. It's time to you know,
Speaker 1: start the next chapter and seasons of change. The funniest
Speaker 1: part of those like in Queendom, were very intimate with
Speaker 1: each other, Like we we talked about a lot of
Speaker 1: really personal details, and so we were all just dying
Speaker 1: because I was like, I know, when this chick has
Speaker 1: a hangnail, and I don't know when she's listening her home,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm excited. But I think it
Speaker 1: was just Also it was even when I put my
Speaker 1: house up for sale and I started the contract on
Speaker 1: the building a new place, I was still because I
Speaker 1: have that mentality and like how am I going to
Speaker 1: afford this? Or how am I gonna? Like that scarcity mindset.
Speaker 1: So it's still very scary, but that's where I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know what God will provide and
Speaker 1: it's going to be great and it's going to be
Speaker 1: a beautiful home for the kids. And the kids have
Speaker 1: been really involved, like I said, all right, Julie, what
Speaker 1: do you want for your room? How do you guys?
Speaker 1: And so they they're so excited about it. That makes
Speaker 1: me happy, and yeah, it's just I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: this feels really good. And I've you know, with the
Speaker 1: acre that we talked about doing UM and therapies, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be very mindful of who I let into
Speaker 1: my new space and my new energy. And that's that
Speaker 1: was a huge piece of the work that I've done
Speaker 1: with my our therapist to be like, all right, because
Speaker 1: I've let people in here that have I didn't have
Speaker 1: the energy and that I feel like it taints your
Speaker 1: space and I don't. I don't. I want to be
Speaker 1: very mindful of who comes in the house. Um, is
Speaker 1: there some guru or something all of us can go to,
Speaker 1: because I feel like, I do pretty well battling this
Speaker 1: scarcity mindset. Preston as a preacher's kid, so we really
Speaker 1: go through this a lot in our marriage. He has
Speaker 1: a scarcity mindset, Like I want us to all go
Speaker 1: do something where we like take the block away? What
Speaker 1: is I mean? I listened to the secret and that's
Speaker 1: always helpful to me. And Steve Harvey said a really
Speaker 1: good motivational speech. He still like he said it to
Speaker 1: be um six. He's like, you have to get uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: He's like, to be successful, you've got to get uncomfortable comfort. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so it's like, Okay, I am stretching myself with
Speaker 1: this new place, but I am I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be able to provide and I have to believe that.
Speaker 1: And I have to get uncomfortable to be comfortable. And
Speaker 1: that was something that I love that he said. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I would love of that. We should we should find
Speaker 1: some rocks in a river. I don't know. I've thrown
Speaker 1: a lot of rocks and the rivers I've got to throw,
Speaker 1: So I'm tired of throwing rocks and rivers. Like I
Speaker 1: just want to be like I'm just I'm saying this
Speaker 1: is season to just be happy. It's just like we
Speaker 1: just talked about this. Yeah, I don't even know about
Speaker 1: that talk. Yeah that's a sign. But I was like,
Speaker 1: how about we just trying to just be joyful this year? Joyful?
Speaker 1: And that has been my word? Really, Yes, I love
Speaker 1: that word. That's that's my word. Not even just happy,
Speaker 1: like what's happy? You know whatever. Joyful It's such a
Speaker 1: good one. Yeah, like why not? Life's too short? Oh,
Speaker 1: life is way too short, and you're just choosing joy.
Speaker 1: And I think mine too, is like just kindness, like
Speaker 1: just choosing Yeah. Also just assume great things out of
Speaker 1: people and move along. Yeah, and just be kind. I
Speaker 1: know we talked about that million times, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: love the joyful. Its just that's a great one. Just yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking of joyful, wind down makes me joyful. And when
Speaker 1: we're on the road, I get extra joy and we
Speaker 1: are we are. We're going to New York in February
Speaker 1: and Boston. I've never been to Boston. You guys. It's
Speaker 1: beautiful and it's like fun. Everyone I meet from Boston
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with. It's so much fun. I'm excited. I
Speaker 1: love Boston. Boston is great and New York is going
Speaker 1: to be awesome too. So, um, in February, if you
Speaker 1: guys are listening, wind Down is going to the City
Speaker 1: Wineries second Night or the first second night or we
Speaker 1: sold that in Boston. We added another one than New York.
Speaker 1: So we'll see you guys there. It's gonna be really fun.
Speaker 1: But um, all right, let's take a break and let's
Speaker 1: get Tracy Tutor on. Hi guys, Hi so much Hi. Hi. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you're I've always tried to um figure out the
Speaker 1: difference between a broker and an age. Her her husband's
Speaker 1: a real estate agent, so she was just kind of
Speaker 1: like filling us in, but you are the she no more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but now I mean truth that we call ourselves brokers
Speaker 1: just but the broker is like the company where you
Speaker 1: had in your license as a real estate agent. You
Speaker 1: can get your broker's license, but I never did that.
Speaker 1: Twenty seven years later, I was like, what's the point,
Speaker 1: because you're do I really want to I don't want
Speaker 1: to open my own brokerage. So there's that. And then
Speaker 1: your dad was really into the you know, the architecture
Speaker 1: side of things. Is that kind of what got you
Speaker 1: into the career that you're in now. Oh no, I
Speaker 1: mean my dad is a builder, and my ex husband's
Speaker 1: a residential builder. My sister is an interior designer. My
Speaker 1: sister and laws an interior designer. So yeah, at some
Speaker 1: level it was in all in the family. But yeah,
Speaker 1: my dad is like infrastructure, so bridges, tunnels, casinos, hotels,
Speaker 1: like much more on a massive scale. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: Are you do you enjoy filming the show? I mean,
Speaker 1: is it something where you're just like to be able
Speaker 1: to do what you love and then also kind of
Speaker 1: get the other side of, you know, being in front
Speaker 1: of the camera and having that that life too. I
Speaker 1: think yeah, I think because I grew up I went
Speaker 1: to theater school, So I started, you know, very young,
Speaker 1: wanting to be an actress, and I was dancing and singing,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to go to New York and be
Speaker 1: in theater and be on the stage. And when I
Speaker 1: graduated from SC theater school, I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: waiting tables and trying to go on auditions. But I
Speaker 1: never really fit into that box of like I wasn't
Speaker 1: like the hot girl or the funny girl. And it
Speaker 1: was really tough back in the day. I mean this
Speaker 1: was like nineteen nine, late nineties, and it was very
Speaker 1: it was very particular about you know, what people were
Speaker 1: looking for in terms of like a leading lady. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I just don't want to wake up
Speaker 1: and be bartending or or be still trying to get
Speaker 1: that gig. I wanted financial independence. And so I remember
Speaker 1: a friend of mine it sat me down and was like,
Speaker 1: why do we do real estate? Um? And she was
Speaker 1: also an actress, And I said, well, I guess you
Speaker 1: know it's not rocket science, right, Like I know how
Speaker 1: to sell. I could sell myself. I could probably sell houses.
Speaker 1: And so I studied to get my real estate license
Speaker 1: and I was probably twenty four at the time, and
Speaker 1: that's when I started my career as Okay, so I'm
Speaker 1: selling my house right now, and I'm I'm building a
Speaker 1: new house, and is there something that sellers do that
Speaker 1: you would recommend, Like is there something that I should
Speaker 1: that I should do differently, or something that you said,
Speaker 1: like it was something that's um like that sellers are
Speaker 1: doing that isn't good or whatever that you should be
Speaker 1: a little insight to help sell my house. I guess
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean I think the first thing I
Speaker 1: do when I'm walking through a house, is I look
Speaker 1: at the front, right, because curb appeal is like the
Speaker 1: first thing that every a body sees. And oftentimes, like
Speaker 1: you know, you'll remodel your house and you'll clean up
Speaker 1: the inside, but when you're pulling up and you see
Speaker 1: the front of the house and the architecture and the landscape,
Speaker 1: that's the first bit of where a buyer decides, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm like intrigued. So whether that's like planting a little
Speaker 1: bit of some fresh flowers or upgrading your landscaping a
Speaker 1: little bit, I think herb appeals like by far one
Speaker 1: of the most important things that a celler has to
Speaker 1: consider spending a little bit of money on before coming
Speaker 1: to market. And then um on the inside of the house,
Speaker 1: I always say, a fresh code of paint. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody has different tastes, but I think you know, in
Speaker 1: a market like now, particularly this type of market, you
Speaker 1: want to appeal to as many people as possible, and
Speaker 1: we all have. I mean, look at the art behind me.
Speaker 1: This is not appeal to everybody, but it's about thinking about,
Speaker 1: you know, how can I make this I hate to
Speaker 1: say it, but as vanilla as I can, so that
Speaker 1: I can sort of appeal to the masses, because you know,
Speaker 1: there are very few people that have a gift and
Speaker 1: that talent of being able to pull a house together
Speaker 1: and it's you know, all the way right, Like they
Speaker 1: can furnish it well, but then they won't spend money
Speaker 1: on the accessories and the books at the end, which
Speaker 1: you know, to do a house property properly, it has
Speaker 1: to be like layered, it has to have all these
Speaker 1: different elements that sort of finish it off. And I
Speaker 1: think there's very few people that have the gift of
Speaker 1: knowing how to do that. So I'll go into a
Speaker 1: seller's house and no, say, okay, let's talk about like
Speaker 1: what what we really want to spend here to get
Speaker 1: the house ready for sale, or what what kind of
Speaker 1: budget do we have so that we can capitalize on
Speaker 1: your profit on the back end. And if they don't
Speaker 1: have a ton of money to do that, then I
Speaker 1: just simplify. I'll say, okay, so let's get rid of
Speaker 1: the chass personal family photos. We don't like a lot
Speaker 1: of knickknacks, clear the counters um. You almost want people
Speaker 1: to be able to walk into the house and imagine
Speaker 1: themselves living in it, not looking at like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: she's got a family of three. They're super cute. They
Speaker 1: seem to like, you know, this particular type of style.
Speaker 1: You want to be able to imagine themselves in it.
Speaker 1: And I think the more simplistic the houses on the interior,
Speaker 1: the more that it will appeal to the masses and
Speaker 1: hopefully drive up the price. So my entire family wall
Speaker 1: on this area I should probably take down. So as
Speaker 1: long as if you have a family wall in the hallway.
Speaker 1: I had the same thing in my old house, and
Speaker 1: I went, well, this is going to be a bit yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like there's it's it's my entire top thing.
Speaker 1: I've got all these pictures of me and the kids. Well,
Speaker 1: I had the same thing, and I opted not to
Speaker 1: take it down. But you know, people walk by that
Speaker 1: that hallway and they're like, look at this darling family
Speaker 1: now right, you know, as long as it's tasteful, I
Speaker 1: guess right, you think though that people because like my
Speaker 1: fear is like people coming there, it's like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is like the divorce, like they got divorced in the
Speaker 1: house or whatever, Like is there like a death. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like second and I know it's not like
Speaker 1: a death. But I'm saying, like, is it, like, you know,
Speaker 1: is that is that going to be something that's like
Speaker 1: a negative for the house. There's some pretty there's some
Speaker 1: pretty interesting buyers out there, Like, you know, obviously, I
Speaker 1: don't think I think divorce is like fifty of the
Speaker 1: reason people sell their homes. Yeah, But on the flip side,
Speaker 1: you know, you also have you know, families that are
Speaker 1: selling for different reasons, and I think divorce is a
Speaker 1: little bit less concerning death. On the other hand, is
Speaker 1: can be a problem for people, you know, even if
Speaker 1: it's by natural causes. It's like, you know, I bought
Speaker 1: a house back like when I graduated from college. It
Speaker 1: was like my bachelorette pad in the Hollywood Hills. And
Speaker 1: after I bought it had a heart shaped pool. It
Speaker 1: was so fun and um, the neighbor that had there
Speaker 1: for like forty years came over and introduced himself and
Speaker 1: then proceeded to tell me that like thirty years prior,
Speaker 1: an entire family had been murdered in the house, And
Speaker 1: I was it was too late. Did you feel that
Speaker 1: already though, Like was there something or You're like no,
Speaker 1: it was good because I don't think it always has
Speaker 1: to feel that way. No, I didn't have that weird energy.
Speaker 1: I mean again, you know how some people just have
Speaker 1: that gift of going I you know, I steal the
Speaker 1: energy in here. I'm not really that person. My husband,
Speaker 1: I mean. And we walked into a home and I
Speaker 1: knew this is actually hilarious. I knew someone he hadn't
Speaker 1: died in the house, but the reason they were selling
Speaker 1: because the husband had passed away and he was a
Speaker 1: younger husband. And we walked in and I was like,
Speaker 1: what do you think? And He's like, energy is often here.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just seems kind of dark. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, I felt bad, but you couldn't
Speaker 1: kind of tell. But it was a beautiful home, but
Speaker 1: there was just kind of like this gloomy and like
Speaker 1: some people have that that the ability to sort of
Speaker 1: feel that type of energy. I've never been that person,
Speaker 1: but I've had clients that are very much like that.
Speaker 1: Like We've gotten to the front door and turned around
Speaker 1: and walked out. So is there do you have to
Speaker 1: disclose any of that? Like legally do you have to
Speaker 1: say like if someone different states, different states have different laws.
Speaker 1: I think in in California, in three years. Um, if
Speaker 1: it's there's been a death in the home in the
Speaker 1: last three years, meaning the person would have had to
Speaker 1: die in the home. Okay, yeah, okay, Well let's just
Speaker 1: change the topic because it matters to me. Like, we
Speaker 1: bought new construction because I thought, I love the creakiness
Speaker 1: of older homes and the character and all the things.
Speaker 1: And my husband's like, nope, somebody died in here. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll come on now. So we bought new construction because
Speaker 1: of that. And I was like, I was wondering if
Speaker 1: somebody could like legally have to tell us if that
Speaker 1: is something. I yeah, I don't think I could. I
Speaker 1: love the process of the building. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just there's something about building. It's it's it's kind of
Speaker 1: stressful doing its single right now because well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, like by myself, but because my builder he's like, well,
Speaker 1: where would you like this outlet? I'm like, I'm a
Speaker 1: single mom. I don't know where to put the I
Speaker 1: was like, I need you to be like my husband
Speaker 1: right now. I need you to pretend to be my
Speaker 1: husband in this house. This is going to be a
Speaker 1: real intuitive placed home. It's going to be great, so
Speaker 1: like I just did it myself, but I bought like
Speaker 1: a nine twenties Spanish I actually bought it on the
Speaker 1: show from Josh Flag last season and then spent the
Speaker 1: last year remodeling it sort of top to bottom with
Speaker 1: my ex husband, who I was like, hey, like your mine,
Speaker 1: Can I use you as a resource Because it's been
Speaker 1: five years, I think we've moved past the divorced thing.
Speaker 1: We're co parenting, like could we work together again? And
Speaker 1: we actually got through it, And honestly, I don't think
Speaker 1: I could have picked where the plugs got. Like certain
Speaker 1: things that I'm very good at in terms of like
Speaker 1: design and spatial awareness and all, and then there's certain
Speaker 1: things I'm like, I that electrical, I have no idea,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not handy like that. How long did it
Speaker 1: take for your co parenting to or to be able
Speaker 1: to be on the other side, Uh, we've always co
Speaker 1: parented relatively well, we've been divorced now for about five years,
Speaker 1: I would say true like repair of our friendship and
Speaker 1: you know we were together for married for fourteen big
Speaker 1: together for almost eighteen years, so like most of my
Speaker 1: adult life. UM, I would say it took the better
Speaker 1: part of the last four years. So only in this
Speaker 1: last year and a half have we gotten to a
Speaker 1: place where I I feel like we're friends again, you know,
Speaker 1: like we laugh, you know, we have we get a
Speaker 1: kick out of each other. Like he's known me since
Speaker 1: I was twenty four years old. So is he dating
Speaker 1: for that? Yeah, he's actually married. He got married this
Speaker 1: year to a lovely girl and they're happy. And I'm
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy for them. And then how long
Speaker 1: have you been with your boyfriend? We're almost three years, okay?
Speaker 1: And are you are you wanting to do the remarriage
Speaker 1: and all that stuff? I mean, wow, guys, And it's
Speaker 1: like I thought that we were talking about real estate.
Speaker 1: It's like, am for this conversation? No, Um, you know
Speaker 1: I would get married again. I don't feel like that
Speaker 1: pressure to Like there's something sort of freeing about living
Speaker 1: for the moment that you're in and living for the day,
Speaker 1: which when you're married, it's like, you know, the idea
Speaker 1: of till death do you part, right, that's a very
Speaker 1: scary commitment these days. Like I think even my girls
Speaker 1: are like says who like my daughter seventeen, and she
Speaker 1: sent me a text the other day of her something
Speaker 1: that she had written in kindergarten, which I actually remembered,
Speaker 1: about who she wanted to be and what she wanted
Speaker 1: to do when she grown up. Was grown up, and
Speaker 1: she said, I want to have a boat that can
Speaker 1: take me to Arizona, and I'm going to be an
Speaker 1: actress and I'll be out American idol. But I will
Speaker 1: not be married, and I will absolutely not have kids,
Speaker 1: and my name will be Juliette and my boy name
Speaker 1: already is Juliette. So but I but I think like
Speaker 1: the younger generation, particularly young girls, have a little bit
Speaker 1: of a different perception than perhaps what we all grew
Speaker 1: up with in terms of the way they look at
Speaker 1: traditional relationships. And and I don't think that it has
Speaker 1: to be till death do you part anymore. I think
Speaker 1: even obviously we have all found out that marriage isn't
Speaker 1: always until death do you part? So why can't it
Speaker 1: just be tell we're not happy and thriving in the
Speaker 1: way that we need to let anyone. I also don't
Speaker 1: think there's a pressure to get married as young anymore,
Speaker 1: like I think our generation, I think we're all around
Speaker 1: the same age ish, but like it was always like
Speaker 1: I know, in my tiny town, it was like prom
Speaker 1: engagement babies, and they all thought when I got divorced
Speaker 1: at like thirty two and didn't have kids, They're like, well,
Speaker 1: she can she can't even have babies, like you know,
Speaker 1: how would she ever? And then when I remarried and
Speaker 1: had kids and later, you know, so I feel like
Speaker 1: it's kind of wonderful that they don't feel the pressure
Speaker 1: to like have to find someone in their twenties. Well
Speaker 1: you look at I look at some of my girlfriends
Speaker 1: that that never got married, and one of them adopted
Speaker 1: at forty five, one just recently at forty Uh, how
Speaker 1: a sur get involved? Like there's so many different ways
Speaker 1: to maybe skin the cats, not to write around, but
Speaker 1: but I do I feel like, you know, they're lucky
Speaker 1: to have the those kinds of options, you know, as
Speaker 1: beautiful as tradition is, and I appreciate the sentiment of
Speaker 1: till death do you part. If you can make it
Speaker 1: and it's beautiful and it's everlasting, then that's a wonderful thing.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that we need to live in
Speaker 1: that space because there's there's just disappointment that it's attached
Speaker 1: to that that I don't think we need to operate
Speaker 1: from I think if we operate from a place of
Speaker 1: you know, while we're happy, um, I think we're a
Speaker 1: lot more likely to be in more long term like
Speaker 1: healthy relationships. Yeah. I also think to the misconception is
Speaker 1: a lot of times for me too. I know, I
Speaker 1: know that I was putting my happiness in the where
Speaker 1: my status in the relationship was or how um you know,
Speaker 1: if we weren't good, then I'm not Then then I'm
Speaker 1: miserable and I'm not happy. It's like, um, I really
Speaker 1: thought that or I it was I based my happiness
Speaker 1: on the relationship and or him making me happy, and
Speaker 1: it's like he can't. I have to be the one
Speaker 1: to make myself happy. And so I think that was
Speaker 1: a big thing to to realize. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like and it's like, even in a new relationship,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't make me happy. You contribute to
Speaker 1: my happiness, but you can't make me happy you And
Speaker 1: that's not even that's never going to be your job.
Speaker 1: Like you can contribute to it, but you're not going
Speaker 1: to be the sole person of like you are my happiness.
Speaker 1: It's such a cycle break because I don't know how
Speaker 1: long have you been apart from your ex husband, but
Speaker 1: two years it's such like a cycle break to go
Speaker 1: through that piece of it, because I think that's just
Speaker 1: that's like nature virtus nurture, right, Like, this is how
Speaker 1: we grew up. Like we can intellectualize that, we can
Speaker 1: talk about it on podcasts, and we do. I do
Speaker 1: all the time about breaking that cycle of of needing
Speaker 1: to feel the happiness within the relationship. But the truth is,
Speaker 1: obviously only we can give that to ourselves. But even now,
Speaker 1: like even when I have a disagreement with my boyfriend,
Speaker 1: like I'm so tied to the people that I love
Speaker 1: that they affect me greatly. They affect my mood, they
Speaker 1: affect how I how I operate, how I function, and
Speaker 1: I have had to learn how to compartmentalize that so
Speaker 1: that I could move throughout my day. And sometimes I
Speaker 1: think by compartmentalizing it, it's kind of brought me back
Speaker 1: to myself. I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna put that away
Speaker 1: for right now because I have work to do. I
Speaker 1: have my kids to deal with, or I need to,
Speaker 1: you know, work on my relationship with my boyfriend or
Speaker 1: whatever it is. But I can't take it on all
Speaker 1: at once. And I think like as a working mom,
Speaker 1: particularly a single mom, and I'm sure you relate to
Speaker 1: this and starting new relationships. It's like you kind of
Speaker 1: put everything in like boxes and you're like, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: how I tack you know, like the ultimate question of
Speaker 1: how do we balance it all? It's like that question
Speaker 1: is like how do I answer that? I just I
Speaker 1: just get through it, yeah, you know, and we're just
Speaker 1: trying that. We were having that conversation because my boyfriend
Speaker 1: right now lives um in England, and so I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, well, we're trying not to go
Speaker 1: more than three weeks about seeing each other. And it's
Speaker 1: like the steps like Okay, I can just focus on
Speaker 1: today because if I start going because I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: then I'm filming a movie in April and then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be doing this, and then I'm like and then
Speaker 1: it's just becomes this like that's not that's not taking
Speaker 1: away my happiness and my joy for the situation that
Speaker 1: I'm in. Right, So it's like just focusing on and
Speaker 1: like you said, like in a way putting putting those
Speaker 1: months in different boxes and right now just focusing on
Speaker 1: like today and the joy that it's bringing. You know,
Speaker 1: I think that's such a big part two of coming
Speaker 1: out of a marriage, Like when you've been dependent on
Speaker 1: that one person for so many years of your life
Speaker 1: and and then all of a sudden there's this massive adjustment,
Speaker 1: and then you're kind of like, Okay, now what um
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to say fate, but there's
Speaker 1: a reason you're dating someone on the other side of
Speaker 1: the pond, Like that's that's like what you're meant to
Speaker 1: be doing right now, probably to teach you all the
Speaker 1: same things that I've learned over the last five years,
Speaker 1: you know, by falling over and kind of getting back
Speaker 1: up again. It's like you know that that was put
Speaker 1: in front of you because it's a lesson that obviously
Speaker 1: is going to be a gift for you down the
Speaker 1: road one way or the other. Right is gone. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be the greatest gift or the greatest lesson, right.
Speaker 1: That's how That's how I was looking at It's like
Speaker 1: it will be the greatest gift or the greatest lesson.
Speaker 1: Right way to look at it. I was going to
Speaker 1: ask a show question. Please, I know I'm sorry, I like,
Speaker 1: I like to you know, get both things. I like,
Speaker 1: I actually had one more thing on marriage, but I
Speaker 1: was like, I was not going to do that because
Speaker 1: it's probably like, what am I doing? What show? Is that? Okay?
Speaker 1: So in fourteen? This is season fourteen, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's that's a really long TV career. First of all,
Speaker 1: I mean I've been on the show for five years,
Speaker 1: but there's you know, Flag has been on since you're
Speaker 1: what I mean, you blew up on a TV show,
Speaker 1: and it's also huge to be on for five Is
Speaker 1: this the first time you bought a property on the show? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Actually I sold my property after my divorce because I
Speaker 1: signed up for this show and then, you know, as
Speaker 1: one does on the reality show, I got divorced after
Speaker 1: my first season. It really is um I sold my
Speaker 1: first house on the show, and then I bought I
Speaker 1: bought the house that I'm currently in and you know,
Speaker 1: been renovating it for the last year. But I think
Speaker 1: being on this show is this year has been a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. I mean, very different from years past
Speaker 1: because it used to be six of us. I mean again,
Speaker 1: I've only been I've been the only woman on the show,
Speaker 1: but the other five people were men, So they've narrowed
Speaker 1: down the cast to just three of us now, which
Speaker 1: I think allows for a little bit more of like
Speaker 1: a personal relationship with the audience that's been watching the
Speaker 1: show for this long. With all these other I guess
Speaker 1: real estate shows that are out there now that are
Speaker 1: obviously um more drama focused with sort of the real
Speaker 1: estate as a background, will always keep the real estate
Speaker 1: in the foreground. But they've been watching us for this
Speaker 1: many years. They want to know, like, what's going on
Speaker 1: in your relationship, how are your kids? You know, like
Speaker 1: those are things that we haven't tapped into in the past,
Speaker 1: so they we really went there this season, and we
Speaker 1: filmed for eleven months, so it was a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of hours. Yeah, And I do like that
Speaker 1: about the show, that it isn't drama focused, because like
Speaker 1: a lot of those other ones, I hope we don't
Speaker 1: ever have anybody else come on, but we have. I
Speaker 1: have one, actually, and it's great. It serves its purpose
Speaker 1: and it's great. But I do like I loved I
Speaker 1: love real estate, and I love to see and some
Speaker 1: of them I'm putting on me is what I was
Speaker 1: going to say, Like I'm here to watch what I'm
Speaker 1: I want to see the proper ease. I want to
Speaker 1: see the transformations. Do we get to see your renovation? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you definitely see the inside of the house,
Speaker 1: um quite a bit because we film her all the
Speaker 1: time and I do some stuff on on Bravo TV
Speaker 1: dot com where I do some house tours and things
Speaker 1: of that nature. So that makes it a little fun
Speaker 1: because obviously people saw the house before, um, and so
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a very very different house now. Um.
Speaker 1: Probably the most year old thing I could say that
Speaker 1: I live for a good renovation. It was a fun.
Speaker 1: It was a really fun project to do it with
Speaker 1: my ex husband and then my boyfriend's here and everybody
Speaker 1: has opinions and we're like one big dysfunctional family. Um,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a roller coaster. Um. We're starting
Speaker 1: phase two and I'm doing my guesthouse now, um, which
Speaker 1: I swear to God will never end. But um, it's
Speaker 1: been it's been fun shooting in the house this season
Speaker 1: and kind of letting the viewers in a little bit
Speaker 1: more and and so it seems like i'vebody's enjoying the
Speaker 1: new format, which is, like I said, has been a
Speaker 1: little bit more personal, and I think that's great to
Speaker 1: be able to peel back the layers too. It's like
Speaker 1: you're still keeping the core of what the show is,
Speaker 1: but you're you're peeling back a layer. And I think
Speaker 1: that's really nice to give people that that look inside,
Speaker 1: because that's people. People want to see that, and they
Speaker 1: want to see, you know, what you're going through on
Speaker 1: the days that you're selling a house or looking you know,
Speaker 1: it's like people people want to feel that closeness to you.
Speaker 1: So we think of the questions we've already talked to
Speaker 1: you about, Tracy. I mean, I've already you know, I've
Speaker 1: been selling real estate for twenty four years and so
Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing and it was very easy
Speaker 1: for me to talk about, you know, ten thirty one exchanges.
Speaker 1: And like I said, our show is very different from
Speaker 1: some of the more entertaining real estate shows that are
Speaker 1: a little more drama and fused. But we definitely have
Speaker 1: some drops, like some of the drama that is coming
Speaker 1: later in the season. You know, it's it's a lot
Speaker 1: eight tune because it just I think it's building and
Speaker 1: you know, I remember we signed on with a new
Speaker 1: producer and she was like, listen, it's going to be
Speaker 1: a little different this year. And I'm like, but how different?
Speaker 1: Like you guys have been saying that for a long time,
Speaker 1: and I really think Bravo said go for it. So um,
Speaker 1: I think as as it's sort of keeps going from
Speaker 1: episode to episode, um, we'll have a little bit more
Speaker 1: fun with it, and you'll definitely see a breakdown and
Speaker 1: communication between the three of us. Definitely some arguments that
Speaker 1: are very real. Um, you know, not a lot of
Speaker 1: acting going on here, just just showing up lises and
Speaker 1: a lot of life lessons. So it was Its been
Speaker 1: a fun It's been a fun time. Well, thank you
Speaker 1: for coming on the show. Thank you for peeling back
Speaker 1: a layer with us, and I'm excited to see what's
Speaker 1: to come on the show. Thank you, Thanks guys, thanks
Speaker 1: for having thanks. Appreciate by. I appreciate you to thank you. Bye.
Speaker 1: I love it when people can open up and you back.
Speaker 1: It's fun to me. Yeah, I was like enough about this,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know, I just I just think
Speaker 1: it's I mean, I personally love to and I know
Speaker 1: that some people do not like that about me, but
Speaker 1: I don't want to just know your favorite color is.
Speaker 1: I wanted to know what your childhood traumas are. Love
Speaker 1: that you ever are not an actress or an entertainment
Speaker 1: you have such a career ahead of you, like an
Speaker 1: interrogation officer. Like there'll be times where I'm like, actually,
Speaker 1: like I'm doing fine, and she's getting here and she's
Speaker 1: like how are you? And I'm like she's doing good,
Speaker 1: and she's like, man, you're crying feminutes, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm actually right. My favorite is when she first meets
Speaker 1: someone and it's like she just goes right and I'm like,
Speaker 1: here we go, buckle up. But I had to be
Speaker 1: I had to be careful of that with So I
Speaker 1: did that differently this go around with dating, because my
Speaker 1: therapist is like, don't give them too much. I don't
Speaker 1: give them all of yourself, right, But I also when
Speaker 1: I go so like, so, what age were you with
Speaker 1: child traumas of this, that and the other, and it's
Speaker 1: like that that's a lot. That's a lot for somebody,
Speaker 1: especially a dude. So um, I had to kind of
Speaker 1: lean into those kind of conversations and like because some
Speaker 1: people aren't going to be as open about things and whatever.
Speaker 1: But I do. I do. I love it. I like
Speaker 1: it a lot. I love too. It's good to go
Speaker 1: slow because then you're like, I feel like if you
Speaker 1: know too much too soon, you might be like pre
Speaker 1: judging responses or waiting for certain things to be a
Speaker 1: certain way because of what you know. Well, I just
Speaker 1: just listen. If you're gonna sit next to me on
Speaker 1: a plane, I'm going to ask you about like generally
Speaker 1: end up on a podcast. Chances are you well because
Speaker 1: if you give them mouse a cookie, he's gonna ask
Speaker 1: for milk. Ask this mouse for peanuts, because you'll end
Speaker 1: up on our podcast. Who was the person you met?
Speaker 1: A Sarah Gretzky? So I got her Christmas card? And okay,
Speaker 1: I I send Christmas cards out and people will send
Speaker 1: me Christmas cards, but I don't read them like some
Speaker 1: people will send like the whole thing. I don't read it.
Speaker 1: I read. I read like literally hers and PAMs. So
Speaker 1: I read PAMs and then everyone else. I just put
Speaker 1: it on this like my little tree or whatever. And
Speaker 1: I was I was like, oh, Sarah, and but and
Speaker 1: for some reason I flipped the back of it because
Speaker 1: it was just you know, it was opening. There was
Speaker 1: like a pile of them and it said baby. Because
Speaker 1: I was like, and I immediately facetimeed her and my
Speaker 1: jaw was just on the floor and she was like,
Speaker 1: that's that was her announcement to people, was the Christmas
Speaker 1: card and she'll figure out who's diligent and that's and
Speaker 1: that's exactly what she go Sarah, I almost didn't read
Speaker 1: the car, and she goes, it's so funny. She's like,
Speaker 1: because there's been people that we've sent it to and like, oh,
Speaker 1: did you get the car. I'm like, yeah, it's great
Speaker 1: and they don't uncomfortable but anyways, yeah, so um, I
Speaker 1: love you guys. See you next week.