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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Tuesday, March thirty first, and

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Speaker 1: the President has extended an Easter Sunday dinner invitation to

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Speaker 1: members of Congress. One catch, you gotta come back to

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Speaker 1: episode of Amy and TJ. What do you think the

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Speaker 1: chances are in Hell of Congress coming back from their

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Speaker 1: two week Easter recess to come work in DC?

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Speaker 2: A snowball's chance?

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Speaker 1: Snow balls? Okay, you said in Hell?

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Speaker 2: So it just was the right answer.

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Speaker 1: So this is Look, there were positive signs as we

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Speaker 1: start here on this Tuesday morning, positive signs lines getting

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Speaker 1: shorter at Airport TSA, workers getting paid. However, Roles, we

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Speaker 1: have to remember we are still in a shutdown, and

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Speaker 1: it is now a record.

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Speaker 3: One yes, and look, you can call it a partial shutdown,

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Speaker 3: but there are still tens of thousands of folks not

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Speaker 3: what borders are?

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Speaker 2: Tom Holman said, and do we not remember?

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Speaker 3: Should we never forget the fact that we're actually at

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Speaker 3: a critical time in the world and our homeland security

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Speaker 3: is of utmost importance, perhaps more so than before, at

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Speaker 3: least in recent years. This is a critical, crucial time

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Speaker 2: Our nation we war, because we're at war, babe.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So of all the times to defund, unfund, refuse

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Speaker 3: to fund the Department of Homeland Security, now is probably

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Speaker 3: not the greatest time.

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Speaker 1: So that continues. So the President has said, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he had mentioned several times before, right that they should

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Speaker 1: first place. He has some threats about making it not

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Speaker 1: much you could do, but they all left. So from

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Speaker 1: the White House press room yesterday, and this is a

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Speaker 1: big deal, Carolyn Levitt, speaking on behalf of the President,

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Speaker 1: essentially extended an offer to all of the members of

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Speaker 1: Disney World wherever they may be right now, extending an

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Speaker 3: So she told the press that if Congress cancels their

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Speaker 3: recess and comes back to the nation's capital, President Trump

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Speaker 3: will quote host a big Easter dinner here at the

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Speaker 3: Democrats on this issue, which we should do because again

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Speaker 3: the Democrat Party is in the wrong here. Here's where

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Speaker 3: I would give Carolyn Levitt a little bit of just

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Speaker 3: in that moment you could say, hey, could lawmakers come back,

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Speaker 3: two parties, and the President will celebrate and honor their

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Speaker 3: hard work and service and their willingness to sacrifice their families.

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Speaker 3: Easter dinner plans to come together and fund the government.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not make it partisan in that offer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, your your suggestion comes masked as sarcastic criticism of

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Speaker 1: how she went about doing this.

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Speaker 2: I don't even think it was mass.

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Speaker 1: This is what they do. That's fine, that's understandable. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm just as a point clarity, I think only Republicans

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Speaker 1: fair to say he's not talking about everybody that come back,

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Speaker 2: Oh you know what it does look like that?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Wow? Even worse?

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Speaker 1: No, I mean we expect that. Remember the whole all

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Speaker 3: This is. But if you actually genuinely want to fund

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Speaker 1: You lost me there. Of course, all these things you

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Speaker 1: that's wonderful. TSA being paid. We don't know how long?

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Speaker 1: Is it part of the problem. So Robes, even though

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Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, And that's just kind of mind blowing when

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Speaker 3: you think about what's going on. Yeah, and Carolyn Lovett

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Speaker 3: this was a really good statement because this is the truth.

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Speaker 2: She says.

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Speaker 3: The president can't just keep signing presidential memorandums and proclamations

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Speaker 3: every time Congress fails to do its job, and every

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Speaker 3: choosing which programs and agencies they want to fund just

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Speaker 3: because they don't like this administration's policies. That is not

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Speaker 3: how it is supposed to work. She is true there,

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Speaker 3: That is a true statement, And I do think that

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Speaker 3: what she said in that statement is important to actually

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Speaker 3: six weeks.

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Speaker 1: Six weeks, a record shutdown that has no sign Okay,

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Speaker 1: a six week shutdown is going to be an eight

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Speaker 2: Working, correct, right, correct, That's a very good point.

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Speaker 1: So even when they do come back, they're still in disagreement.

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Speaker 1: The House has passed the bill, the Senate has passed

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Speaker 1: the bill. Democrats and Republicans in these House. This is

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Speaker 1: not just the Democrat Republican fight. These two houses of

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Speaker 3: Yes, so yes, to your point, it was interesting. There

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Speaker 3: Democrats said it wouldn't solve anything for the President to

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Speaker 3: call Congress back. He says, the House needs to pass

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Speaker 3: the Senate's funding deal, all right, And then you've got

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Speaker 2: From your great state of Arkansas.

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Speaker 3: A Republican, says, the Senate would be eager to pass

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Speaker 3: the House's stopgap version.

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Speaker 2: We could come back promptly to pass.

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Speaker 1: That bill, he says, the House version.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he says that the Senate would be eager to

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Speaker 2: We could come back promptly to pass that bill.

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Speaker 1: And Democrats have a problem with that. Again, this whole

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Speaker 1: fight is over ICE funding Ice, who has not been

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Speaker 1: That's all started in Minneapolis. So Democrats saw what was

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Speaker 1: and that is fine. So the House version they fund

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Speaker 3: Weeks I think it's like six eight weeks, so that

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Speaker 2: Yes, but they fund everything.

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Speaker 1: But they fund everything temporarily just to give them more

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Speaker 2: So the Senate Democrats say no to that.

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Speaker 3: And then the Democrats passed to bill where they fund

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Speaker 2: So it's hilarious.

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Speaker 3: It's the it's the Senate Democrats who don't like the

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Speaker 1: This is getting more complicated. This is this is yes.

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Speaker 2: And I would can I read what Tom Holman said.

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Speaker 1: He's talking.

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Speaker 3: He's become one of our new favorite administration heroes.

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Speaker 2: Sean Duffy, you love him too.

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Speaker 1: If the next ticket was Duffy Holman. I would vote

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Speaker 1: for them probably, all right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they are the voices of reason, and they tend

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Speaker 3: with everyone. I feel like that's been our reaction to

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Speaker 2: Amid a lot of significant crises that they're dealing with here.

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Speaker 1: It helps they're not running for anything nice.

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Speaker 2: You know what that is Such a difference. What a

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Speaker 3: So he says he hopes that Trump compels lawmakers to

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Speaker 3: we're we're in an increased threat posture because of what's

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Speaker 3: They want to talk about immigration policies, We can talk

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Speaker 2: Let's sit down and talk.

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of talk of holding people funding hostage,

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Speaker 2: But that is the truth.

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Speaker 3: That is what lawmakers are doing. They are holding people

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine every day you go to work. Every

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do my job again today, and it's costings,

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Speaker 1: not me, but somebody else their paycheck. Could you repeatedly

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Speaker 1: for two weeks in the summer and go while I'm gone,

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing any work. And because I'm not doing

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Speaker 1: these weeks. How can you sit there?

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Speaker 2: Let me go on Space Mountain.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's a real thing, Rotes, How can you do that?

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Speaker 1: These folks are making fifty thousand in Atlanta, in New

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Speaker 1: York and Chicago, in Houston, not the cheapest of cities,

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Speaker 1: and raising families, and you're with I don't know how

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Speaker 1: they sit with it. It's not just a matter of

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Speaker 1: we didn't get some piece of legislation passed. This is

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Speaker 1: the stuff that's necessary for us to stay safe. And

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Speaker 1: to keep folks fed.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and they chilling for two weeks chilling.

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Speaker 1: It's it's I don't understand, but you know what we

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Speaker 1: said it yesterday, babe. The reason they can do it

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Speaker 1: it's the Republican's fault or democrats fault, and that's how

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Speaker 1: you can sleep in night.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's exactly how I voted.

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Speaker 1: We look.

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Speaker 3: If you all want to hear are outrage, maybe mostly.

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Speaker 2: My outrage, exclusively her rage.

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Speaker 3: Please listen to the podcast episode before this one, because

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Speaker 3: we go into the what congress men and women are

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Speaker 2: We talked about two dudes, Lindsay Graham, yes.

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Speaker 1: When you hear those two names. If you don't know

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Speaker 3: Yes, the fact that TSA workers, some of them got

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Speaker 1: But they're not. This is gonna go on for two weeks.

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Speaker 3: It seems like it is now. Look, I don't know

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Speaker 2: Think all of them.

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Speaker 3: Look there, who is proud of their congress mat or

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Speaker 3: What a terrible feeling to be going into work and

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Speaker 1: Who was it? There was a and it was nice

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Speaker 1: And those call out numbers are still up even though

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Speaker 3: Would say that makes a lot of sense because they

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Speaker 2: Getting paid, so they got to keep those other gigs going.

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Speaker 1: That makes a good point. That is a very They can't.

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Speaker 2: Bet on the fact that Congress is going to do

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Speaker 3: They haven't proven that to us that they're willing to

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Speaker 2: Agreed.

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Speaker 3: If there's a silver lining that comes out of this,

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, we'll get an eye on this one today.

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Speaker 1: The upside at least ropes lines of Gotden Shorter TSA

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Speaker 1: we always appreciate your spending some time with us. We'll

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Speaker 1: here in just a little bit, but as always we

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Speaker 1: appreciate your spending time with us. Sun T. J. Holmes

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