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Speaker 2: We're trying to do that on this show. We're jam

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Speaker 2: It's Thursday, March twenty What is it twenty seventh, the

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Speaker 1: What is the portal doing to college athletics?

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot of debate about that, you know,

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Speaker 2: Maybe many of you, along with me, realize things, but

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Speaker 2: to just say that thing out loud. No longer, no

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell some truth on the show. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: tell some truth. Not the first to do it, hopefully

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Speaker 2: We're also gonna tell the truth on Mario Christobaul on

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Speaker 2: If not everyone agrees, great question. Proactively, We've got spring intel,

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Speaker 2: that coming? And you know over there knoxvilleho are you

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Speaker 2: watching us in Oxford, Alabama, in Bakersfield, California, Shallow Water, Texas, Miami, Florida.

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Speaker 2: All brought to you by Academy Sports and Outdoors. We

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Speaker 2: appreciate them, We appreciate Texas Tech for welcoming us into

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Speaker 2: you know we have Well, we had two first time

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Speaker 2: So Joey Maguire, you'll get that video soon. Brent Venables,

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Speaker 2: But you know, current viewership reflecting current policies of college

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Speaker 1: It's valid. Now.

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Speaker 1: Speak the truth anyway, because you're not.

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Speaker 1: Do now, and start this year. That really gets ramped.

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Speaker 2: But those are the ones being propped up and profiting

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Speaker 1: You don't benefit off this.

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Speaker 2: I don't benefit off this, and believe it or not,

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Speaker 2: would humbly ask, since you have the needs in your

437
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: life already visit academy. They have the answers. Let us

438
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: move merrily along. So, got a lot of intel happening

439
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 2: around the country. Spring practice in full swing. I'm gonna

440
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: get to a few practices next week, and that's about

441
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 2: the extent that I can tell you because these are

442
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 2: closed to the media. So officially I'm not anywhere next week. Unofficially,

443
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 2: gonna be on the road next week.

444
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 1: What about Georgia. We were there last week.

445
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 2: It was a nonpractice day, so I didn't get to

446
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 2: watch practice, but there was a zero question to me

447
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 2: Gunners Stockton is going to be the starting quarterback of

448
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: this team. Now that's not breaking news, that's not intel

449
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 2: because Georgia fans know that. However, last week, remember I

450
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: had a question on the show about whether I was

451
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 2: worried Kirby was going to value seniority over talent at

452
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: the quarterback position. Now, at the time I knew we

453
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 2: were going down there the very next day, So at

454
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 2: the time I knew this is going to be really

455
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: fun to put in his face so I gave my

456
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: take on it on the show.

457
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: The night before.

458
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 2: But then I walked down there, Actually, you know what,

459
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: and I want to paint myself as a hero.

460
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: We didn't Forrest Gump it. We drove, we took a

461
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: car down.

462
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: To Athens and we sat down with him and I said, hey,

463
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: we had a viewer submit a question, what do you

464
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 2: think about it? And I have the video to prove it.

465
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: Roll at Colin. I had a guy on last night's

466
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: show right before I came down here. He said, Hey,

467
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: I'm a Georgia fan. I like a lot of the players,

468
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: the young players on the team. He said, I've got

469
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: concern that Kirby's going to favor seniority over talent at quarterback.

470
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: I gave my answer to that. What kind of response do.

471
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 4: You give to that, Well, talent at quarterback is a

472
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 4: beautiful thing. You have to be able to go out

473
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 4: and execute at that position. There's a lot of positions

474
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: that you can take talent over seniority. At quarterback. You

475
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 4: take the guy that gives you the best chance to

476
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 4: win the game, that includes talent, that includes decision making,

477
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 4: because that position can get you beat faster than it

478
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 4: can win the game because all it takes is a fumble,

479
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 4: a poor decision of misprotection, sack fumble, and the game's over.

480
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 4: You can't afford to have those kind of mistakes, even

481
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 4: with a talented guy. And we have talented guys, and

482
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 4: that assumption I guess is a Gunner Ryan or a

483
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 4: gun or somebody. Gunner's very talented. He's been playing a

484
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 4: lot of football for US. Ryan's very talented. Every school

485
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 4: in the country wanted him. So we have talented players,

486
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 4: We've got to get the right talented players around them.

487
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 4: That's the big decision is like who's around us on

488
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 4: defense and offense, because we do have some good young

489
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 4: freshmen sophomores that have a chance to beat out some

490
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 4: older players.

491
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Speaker 1: That part there. Believe it or not.

492
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: The head coach at Georgia made a really good point

493
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: about Georgia, really astute.

494
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: Think he knows what he's talking about. Quarterback will be okay.

495
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: I don't think they plan on having all American caliber

496
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: play at quarterback my words his, But I think they look.

497
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: At Gunner Stockton and say, number one, he's probably gonna

498
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: be our starter. Number two. We weren't good enough around

499
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: the quarterback position. Last year, our running backs numbers tailed

500
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: off significantly, our defensive numbers tailed off. Our receivers dropped

501
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 2: everything they could possibly drop in sight.

502
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: So how's that panning out in spring ball?

503
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 2: Well, a wide receiver position, hearing good things, promising things.

504
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 2: The granted, there's a long way to go up for

505
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: Georgia at the wide receiver position.

506
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: They brought in Zachariah.

507
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 2: Branch from USC When I was down there last week,

508
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: I made specific specific mention of him to as many

509
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: staffers as I could.

510
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: He's talented. He wouldn't be there if he wasn't talented.

511
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: What they spoke about was how quickly he sort of

512
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: got with the.

513
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 2: Program, which you never know when you're bringing in a

514
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 2: guy from elsewhere and you do things a very intense,

515
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: specific kind of way. You don't know. You hope, but

516
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: you don't know. I think they got what they wanted

517
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: in him in that department. Also, he's really good as

518
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: a receiver. But also Colby Young, you know, he's got

519
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: his legal stuff out of the way, so he's presumably back.

520
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: And cautious optimism about the wide receiver position there. Left

521
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: tackle and right guard at least at the ones have

522
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: been out so offensive line is going to be a

523
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: question for them, and it's the numbers have been a

524
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: problem for him, trying to practice the way they want

525
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: to practice. But that's what springs for him at Michigan.

526
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: Let's just ask it again. Probably won't be the last time.

527
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: Is Bryce Underwood going to start for them at quarterback?

528
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: It's a race, certainly going to be a legitimate race.

529
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: You don't pay that kind of money. Yeah, this is

530
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: flawed logic what I'm about to say, but it is logic.

531
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Speaker 1: You don't pay that kind of money for a guy

532
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: to sit the bench.

533
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: Here's the retort you should be saying to your screen

534
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: or monitor or phone right now. Well, if he's not

535
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 2: good enough, he's not good enough, he's not ready, he's

536
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: not ready. I agree with you. I agree with you.

537
00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: That makes sense. But that conversation piece isn't going away.

538
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: So here is the thing to remember. They brought Mikey

539
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: Kean in there, who's a veteran, and they brought Bryce

540
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: Underwood in who was the number one player in the country,

541
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: and he's a true freshman. But they're both learning a

542
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: new offense because they brought both of them in, so

543
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: neither you know, Kean wasn't at Michigan for three years,

544
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: and now Underwood's trying to see if he can just

545
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: pull up even with him well from an offensive grasp

546
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: and grasping the system. They're both new. Remember they go

547
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 2: to Oklahoma in week two, So you know, it may

548
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is it may be a situation where

549
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 2: the guy who's starting in week one or two is

550
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: not the guy who's starting in week seven or eight.

551
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: In fact, if I had to bet money now, I

552
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 2: wouldn't bet much of it, And if I had to

553
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: bet money, I would bet that maybe the route Michigan goes,

554
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: maybe your ultimate plant is to get to the finish

555
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: line with Bryce or Bryce. If I said Bryce Young tonight,

556
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 2: Underwood's the name, okay good Man, because it almost came

557
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: out there. Bryce Underwood is your starter. Maybe at the

558
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: end of the year, maybe not at the beginning.

559
00:27:59,320 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: Of the year.

560
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: Derek Moore at Edge listening to Wink Martindale talk about him.

561
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: They're replacing guys.

562
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: It sounds like that may be one of the stars

563
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: in waiting there. But that Indiana wide receiver transfer is

564
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: the one I'm excited about.

565
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: Donovan McCully six five point two oh five. Michigan.

566
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: I did not realize this has not had a one

567
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: thousand yard receiver since twenty thirteen. I should have, though,

568
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: because that's a stat that get thrown around a lot,

569
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: but I'd forgotten it about Michigan. Maybe maybe I don't

570
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: know if I bet the money on that, but maybe

571
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: he's a guy that's really been mentioned a lot when

572
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: we reach out about Michigan. Now Nebraska first two years

573
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: under Matt Ruhle top twenty defenses defensive critical parts of

574
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: the defensive staff departed for Florida State, but they brought

575
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: in Dana Holgerson at the offensive coordinator position. So you

576
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: think to yourself, well, all you got to do is

577
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: have more points than the other team.

578
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: So maybe you got to score more.

579
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: Maybe you give up more this year, but still if

580
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: you score more points at the end of the day,

581
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: then the other team you win. Doesn't really matter how

582
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 2: you went about it. Yes, welcome to football. So huge

583
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: expectations here at the running back position for Emitt Johnson,

584
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: and we think he fits the Dana Holgerson system very

585
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: well because he can run the ball, but he can

586
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: also catch the ball out of the backfield, which any

587
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: high functioning. Dana Holderson offense has always had and he

588
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: almost portaled out of there. If you'll remember, he's one

589
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: foot out the door. They hired Dana Holgerson as the

590
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: full time O. See, he kind of comes back and

591
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: probably chased another guy off in the process. That's the

592
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: way it felt from the outside. So I'm watching him.

593
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: I'm watching Sierra Wright at the corner position. We keep

594
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: hearing good things about him. McCullough and Wintery the edge guys,

595
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: we keep hearing good things about them. So you know,

596
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: there's a smattering of portal talent. You've also got several

597
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: recruiting classes there now. Nebraska year three under matt rule.

598
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: You know history says that's the year it's supposed to happen. Well,

599
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: there's got to be tangible reasons why it's going to happen.

600
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: There are a few at Tennessee Mike Matthews. You remember

601
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 2: that name, Brailn Staley, You remember that name. Those are

602
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: both top one hundred overall players. They're both wide receivers,

603
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: but they were top one hundred overall in the twenty

604
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: twenty four cycle. Both of them look good so far

605
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: in spring ball. They've got to have those guys they

606
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: got to go too for two on those guys panning

607
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: out be really interesting sort of with the offensive line evolution,

608
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: there be really interesting to see how effective they can

609
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: be offensively because I think in my mind, what was

610
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: the identity last year of playoff bound to Tennessee defense.

611
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: Defense had to bail them out a lot last year.

612
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: Kind of wild to be saying that multiple years into

613
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: Josh Heipel's tenure. It's not a criticism. In fact, I

614
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: think it's the mark of a program that's rapidly evolving

615
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: when you ended up last year winning games on the

616
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: side opposite of what the head coaches area of expertise is.

617
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: So not a bad thing, just a thing.

618
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: Florida DJ Lagway's status is still the same as it's been.

619
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: He's not throwing. He may not throw in spring. Now.

620
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you my take on this. I think

621
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: it's gonna be okay. Maybe more precautionary. Obviously, it's more

622
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: than just what is usually viewed as precautionary. Usually that's

623
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: a guy stubbed his toe and we don't want to

624
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: risk him further injuring it, so we're gonna send him

625
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: out of practice today. But if he played tomorrow, like

626
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: we'd suit him up. Well, I don't know if Lagway

627
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: would go. If they played tomorrow, maybe he would. They

628
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: don't go tomorrow, they go a few months from now.

629
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: I think if nothing changes, he'll be good cause I

630
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: think actually things will change in that you get another

631
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: several months of recoup, of revamping, you know, fancy words

632
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: for rehabilitation.

633
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: I think he'll be okay there.

634
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: But also, that wide receiver group at Florida is pound

635
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: for pound, one of the position units that we keep

636
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: getting the best intel on out of anywhere in the country.

637
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: They are overly excited down there about that wide receiver group.

638
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: South Carolina lost a lot of defensive tackle. This is

639
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: just kind of something I'm paying attention to. They're confident

640
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: that they can backfill that. I don't take that for granted.

641
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: So my position on South Carolina is going to be

642
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: all right. Trust Verify Trust Verify didn't have much on them.

643
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: But it's kind of a TBD for me. I have learned,

644
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: I think we all have. Through the portal era. Most

645
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: portal editions don't work out. I mean, if you think

646
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: about it from fifty thousand feet, there are a lot

647
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: of reasons why guys are in the portal. Sometimes they

648
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: just are that good and there's this huge market for them.

649
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: Other Times there may be a defect, There may be

650
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: a flaw, there may be a reason they didn't stick

651
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: and their previous place didn't really want to pay them.

652
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: This is case by case, obviously, but everybody assumes everyone

653
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: they get out of the portal is going to be

654
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: wonderful and a perfect fit. More oftentimes than not, that's

655
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: not the case. That doesn't mean it's going to be

656
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: the case of South Carolina or your team. What it

657
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 2: does mean is I've learned to take the position of

658
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: just trust, but verify on all these portal editions, and

659
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: when you're relying on them, if they pan out, that's great.

660
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 2: It's just I don't know, it's a slightly uneasy feeling

661
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: for me when you know, like a position, units, hopes,

662
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: and dreams are based off of portal editions because I

663
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: just I don't know them as much. I didn't recruit

664
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: them out of high school. They haven't come up through

665
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: my system. You get it, Oh, let's move along, we

666
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: got big news. Does this qualify as big?

667
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: I think it does. Immunity would you believe the headline.

668
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: I don't know who broke this today, it's legal news.

669
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: Luke from Chattanooga, Tennessee hit me and said, I know

670
00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 2: you saw the Jeremy prewittz.

671
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a better question.

672
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: How much of that one hundred million will Prewitt see,

673
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: if any, from this lawsuit against the NC DOUBLEA. Well, Luke,

674
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: let's not just assume that everyone has seen this news.

675
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: But he's right.

676
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: Jeremy Prewitt today has filed a lawsuit one hundred million

677
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: dollar nice round even number. Good for him for not

678
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: going north of one hundred million dollar lawsuit against the

679
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: NC double. A backstory, Jeremy Prewitt once upon a time,

680
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 2: longtime defensive coordinator, head coach at Tennessee, and then some

681
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: things happened with some McDonald's bags, et cetera, hoops to monks.

682
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: US hasn't seen that play out that way, and he

683
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: gets fired and six year show cause and it was

684
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: a big scandal, a big to do. As me Mal

685
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: would say, Well, Jeremy Prewitt has sort of.

686
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 2: You know, been out there in the desert for a

687
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: little while and not many people have heard from him.

688
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: And now today you heard from him again, do we

689
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: have that Dellinger tweet? Basically the snap of it so

690
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't have to read the entire lawsuit on the

691
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: air for you. Is that Prewitt is filing one hundred

692
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 2: million dollar lawsuit in damages. Here's the language from the

693
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: Deligrate tweet. Former Tennessee coach Jeremy Prewitt has sued the

694
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: NCAA into Cab County, Alabama, claiming the association conspired with

695
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 2: Tennessee to make him the sacrificial lamb for rules violations

696
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: resulting in his firing and six year show cause. He's

697
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 2: claiming one hundred million dollars in lost wages. So there,

698
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: Jeremy prewe it is into Cab County, Alabama, surviving off

699
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: beans and weenies basically and suing for one hundred million

700
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 2: in lost wages. If you're thinking that's a big number,

701
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: it is. But if you extrapolate out the you know,

702
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: presumably four or whatnot four or five years now that

703
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: he would have still been a head coach, bold to assume,

704
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 2: but and then the six years following that, you're taking

705
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: eleven years of lost wages away from head coach in

706
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: major college football where they're making nine or ten million

707
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: a year or more. Yeah, it's reasonable. If Jeremy Prut

708
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: would have remained a head coach for a decade, then

709
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: he could have made that much. I think it goes

710
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: without saying that is a massive all caps if. But

711
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: follow me here, because Jeremy Prewitt, let's be real, we're

712
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: telling the truth tonight. Jeremy Prut doesn't need a hundred

713
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: million dollars. Jeremy Prutt needs that show cause dropped. And

714
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: so Jeremy Prut walked into court or his representation into

715
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 2: cab County, Alabama, said we want a hundred million dollars.

716
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: What they really want is a negotiated settlement that erases

717
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: that show cause. So Jeremy Pruitt can go back to

718
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: coaching football, probably not as a head coach, but definitely

719
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: as a defensive coordinator somewhere. Because here's the thing about

720
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: Jeremy Prewitt. Right now, he can't do anything. But if

721
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 2: that show cause were to be dropped, Jeremy Pruitt would

722
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: be employed tomorrow because he is still a heck of

723
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 2: a defensive mind. And Jeremy Prewitt is a guy who,

724
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: although there's a stigma around him right now for obvious reasons,

725
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: the moment that show cause was dropped, no one would care.

726
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: The stigma around.

727
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: Jeremy Prewitt has to do with allegedly doing things that

728
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: are totally legal now or you know, in a roundabout way.

729
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: Obviously not the exact mechanisms they allegedly use there, but

730
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: paying players is legal now.

731
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: No one cares.

732
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 2: Even if he's guilty of all the things that they

733
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: alleged that he was guilty of.

734
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: No one cares.

735
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: If I need a big time name, if I need

736
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: a big time presence, is my defensive coordinator. I'm hiring

737
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: Jeremy Prewitt tomorrow, maybe by the end of today. So

738
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: my feel Luke was that I don't think they believe

739
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: they'll see any of this one hundred million dollars. I

740
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 2: do think they believe if they're aggressive enough, public sentiment

741
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 2: will be on their side and they can get into

742
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: a settlement portion of this where the NCAA says, we're

743
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: not paying you a hundred million, how about we erase

744
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 2: the show cause And Prewitt goes, that's all I wanted,

745
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: and his representation says, send us the papers. They sign it,

746
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: and then Jeremy prewit's coaching ball again next year. I

747
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: think that's what they want. It would not shock me

748
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: if they got it. They're watching us in Greenville, South Carolina.

749
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: They're watching us in Fresno, California. They're watching us in Ringgold, Georgia.

750
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: They got a quick trip in Ringold. They may have

751
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: one in Fresno. In Greenville, I know they got one

752
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: in Ringgold, though. Let's move along. Hey, good exercise here,

753
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: good exercise. I'm gonna crack up in a zeba for

754
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: this one. I went ginger Ale today. I don't have

755
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 2: a specific reason why I do. We have a backlog

756
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: of ginger ale flavor. So I drank this on the

757
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: flight yesterday. It may have reignited my love for ginger Ale.

758
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: I'm not sick. I'm okay. But they're more purpi plural

759
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: of purpose for ginger ale than just when you're sick,

760
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: as Memo once taught me. So with that in mind,

761
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: I want to ask you what are some of the

762
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: biggest what ifs in the history of college football? And

763
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: I don't really need to be the one who asks you,

764
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: because Jack hit us up. Jack from Salt Lake City,

765
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: he said, Hey, what are some of the biggest butterfly

766
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: effect moments in college football history. Like if something happened differently,

767
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: it would have changed the entire sport. These happen all

768
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 2: around us every day. Butterfly Effect also a very underrated

769
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: movie Ashton Kutcher. I believe Amy Smart in that movie. Yeah,

770
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: pretty deep though.

771
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: But good movie.

772
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: I think back to Michigan in twenty twenty. I think

773
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: back to Jim Harball being on the hot seat during

774
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: the COVID year. Remember a lot of Michigan folks wanted

775
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: him fired. They got to the end of the year,

776
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: they canceled the Ohio State game. Remember I'm still convinced

777
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 2: if they play that game, they get drug and Jim

778
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 2: Harball gets fired.

779
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: I think that would have happened.

780
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: But it didn't and he didn't, and it's a good

781
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: thing I think for Michigan that he didn't pending investigation outcomes,

782
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: because in years twenty twenty one, twenty two, and twenty three,

783
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: he beat oh High.

784
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three they won the national title.

785
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: They had back to back to back Big Ten titles.

786
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: It's a great what if because if they would have

787
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: dumped him, first off, we don't know where Michigan would

788
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: have turned. Secondly, we don't know if the current scandal

789
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: they're being investigated for would have existed, So you know,

790
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: there's a plus and a minus side there. But I

791
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: think it all stems back from that Ohio State Michigan

792
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 2: game that never happened. Buckeye fans will forever tell you

793
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: they intentionally ducked the game, and I don't know that

794
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,479
Speaker 2: they're wrong. I have no firsthand knowledge of That makes

795
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: sense to me, though I kind of bought into that

796
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: way of thinking. I don't think Michigan wanted anything to

797
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: do with that game that year. Now, two things could

798
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: be true. They could have not wanted to play the

799
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: game and also had valid reasons not to play the game.

800
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

801
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: I do also not fully know if they would have

802
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: lost by thirty would Harball have been fired. What I

803
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 2: do know is they didn't play the game, he didn't

804
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: get fired, They restructured his contract, and they proceeded to

805
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: go on a run and it culminated scandal notwithstanding in

806
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: one of the best stories in college football. But see,

807
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: here's the thing about it, It's getting harder and harder

808
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 2: by the day to block the scandal out because it's

809
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 2: becoming more and more by the day, an integral part

810
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: of telling that story, which I hate because a good story.

811
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: I mean, if you think about it, at the root

812
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: of it, it's a bunch of guys who got recruited

813
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: to a program, staying with the same program, sticking it out,

814
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: and ultimately having it culminate with a.

815
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: National championship win.

816
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: That's the way I love for this sport to work.

817
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: It's just that there may have been some other things

818
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: in the background that worked the way the sport was

819
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: supposed to be working.

820
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: But that's a what if.

821
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: I this has got a Michigan tie as well. I

822
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: think about rich Rodriguez. What if Rich rod never leaves

823
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: West Virginia. If you're eighteen years old, if you're one

824
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: of my college viewers and listeners, I don't know that

825
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: you know how incredible West Virginia was. They were running

826
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: the Big East for a while. Also side note, do

827
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: you know what the Big East was in football or

828
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: a generation before that? Do you have any idea how

829
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: good the Big East wasn't basketball?

830
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: But Rich Rod's at West Virginia.

831
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: Let's see, they had double digit win seasons in five, six,

832
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: and seven before the seven season, he took the Alabama

833
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 2: job for like thirty seconds and then backed out of it,

834
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: and some dude who was the head coach of the

835
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: Dolphins ended up taking the job. I forget how that

836
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: worked out for Alabama. But rich Rod stays at West

837
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: Virginia coaches.

838
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 1: One more year.

839
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: They win their usual double digit amounts of games ten

840
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 2: I think they want to share of the Big East

841
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: title that year. And then he goes to Michigan and

842
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: it sucked. It didn't work. It was the craziest thing

843
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 2: because he didn't fit there and most Michigan folks didn't

844
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: want him there. Mind boggling how that worked out, and

845
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 2: so he ended up wandering through the college football desert.

846
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: He was at eras Zona, he was a coordinator at

847
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: Ole Miss. He went to Hawaii, maybe to coach, maybe

848
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: to just vacation. He ended up at ULM head coach

849
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: at Jacksonville State. And now I guess where he is.

850
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: He's right back.

851
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: At West Virginia.

852
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: It's just that now he's trying to rebuild West Virginia.

853
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: What would West Virginia have been if rich Rod never left.

854
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: That's why it's a great what if follow up? What

855
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: if what if he did leave West Virginia but he

856
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: took Obama job or I don't know.

857
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: I presume it wouldn't have.

858
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: Gone much better than it went at Michigan for him.

859
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: But I can't prove that. You can't prove a counterfactual.

860
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: But what I can prove to you is if he

861
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: takes the job there at seven, Nick Saban's not taking

862
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: the job.

863
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: That's the guy's name, Nick Saban. That's who ended up

864
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: taking the job.

865
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: So does Saban stay with Dolphins or does he eventually

866
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 2: make his way back to college football? Does Saban go

867
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 2: to arrival of Alabama? Because wherever he went he would

868
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: have won. Does he I have a theory that Nick

869
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 2: Saban may have stayed in the NFL, waited it out,

870
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: and if Texas came open, he would have taken Texas.

871
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: And you want to talk about.

872
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: College football looking a lot different, So Rich Rodriguez. All

873
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say is he's the most important figure

874
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 2: in the history of the sport.

875
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: That's all I'm trying to say.

876
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: Next up, and this is a fun one for me

877
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: because I would gladly go down this road. What if

878
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: the playoff never existed? What if we would have just

879
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: always stuck with the BCS. What if it was always

880
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,479
Speaker 2: one versus two. Well, the first victim is Ohio State

881
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: because they don't make the title game in twenty fourteen

882
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: where they won the title, so that's one title not there.

883
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: They also don't make the title game last year, so

884
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: that's two titles. That's it. Guys, like they've won two

885
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: titles in the playoff era.

886
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have won either one of them.

887
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 2: So Ohio State is looking back to what like two

888
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: or whenever that was as their last national championship. It'd

889
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: be a different world for Ohio State. Bama Clemson still

890
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: would have been what it was. I mean, Bama Clemson

891
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: would have been the title game in fifteen, but it

892
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: was anyway sixteen, but it was anyway eighteen, but it

893
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: was anyway. The only difference here is BAMA would have

894
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: played Clemson instead of Ohio State in twenty twenty, So

895
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: again Ohio State victimized it. I don't I think in

896
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: the net it would have worked out about the same

897
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: for Alabama, like the twenty seventeen game where they won

898
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: the title. They wouldn't have been in but they would

899
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: have been in a title game. In fourteen, and that's

900
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: a year Ohio State eliminated in the semi final game.

901
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: So I think it probably would have worked. Got the

902
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: same for Bama.

903
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: But Oregon could have been the biggest beneficiary here. Oregon

904
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: would have gotten two shots at the national title. Twenty fourteen,

905
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four they would have gotten a.

906
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: Couple of shots there.

907
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: And who knows, because in twenty fourteen they still played

908
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: for the national title, but they played Ohio State instead,

909
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: they would have faced Alabama. Bama would have been favored.

910
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: Who knows, maybe Bama would have won, but as we saw,

911
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: that was a vulnerable Alabama team, not quite as vulnerable

912
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: of an Ohio State team.

913
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: At the m But also, if we.

914
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: Look past just individual teams, if we never had the

915
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: playoff and the BCS game was just one versus two,

916
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: do you think bowl opt outs would have become as

917
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: big a deal as they have. Because I look back

918
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: and I think about the trajectory. Trajectory is not the word.

919
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: I think about the decline of value placed on bowls,

920
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: and it directly correlates with the advent of the college

921
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 2: football playoff because you had the playoff and then you

922
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: had the Who's en Era, which was a very very

923
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: damaging marketing campaign, and then everyone focused on who's in

924
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: the playoff. Every bit of oxygen in the sport was

925
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: dedicated to who's in the playoff and playoff implications, And slowly,

926
00:46:54,680 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: but surely, you had the phrase meaningless game just just

927
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: work its way into the conversation, which became meaningless bowl game.

928
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: And basically any game that wasn't a playoff game was

929
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 2: a meaningless bowl game. Again, kids didn't do that, adults

930
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 2: did it. So the adults started saying meaningless bowl game.

931
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: The players listened and did exactly what you would do

932
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: in a meaningless game. They said, why should I play

933
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: in this game? And so then a lot of players

934
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 2: started opting out. And now now that's the norm. Would

935
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: it have happened that way if we never.

936
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: Expanded the playoff? I don't know.

937
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: Also, here's another fund if that I can't prove, if

938
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: you're a believer, that there are some people involved in

939
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: college football right now that are only involved because they

940
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: can profit in an obscene way.

941
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 1: Off of college football due to the playoff.

942
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: If we didn't have the playoff, if the big profit

943
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: levers were never really pulled on college football, how many

944
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: people would have just moved on and looked for the

945
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: next thing they could destroy instead. How many people in

946
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: college athletics right now now would not be in college

947
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: athletics because it wasn't profitable enough for them. It's a

948
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: fun question. Let's move on. We were looking at the

949
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: schedules today. We were perusing That's what we were doing.

950
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: We were perusing the schedule today looking at some of

951
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: these non conference games. I got six of them I'm

952
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: looking at right now. Some of them are in Week one,

953
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: like Texas at Ohio State. I mean we start the

954
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 2: season with that, Jesse, correct me if I'm wrong. Did

955
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: our friends at FOTS announce that as the big newon

956
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 2: kickoff for week one? Rumored to be? So that's just

957
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: that's intel that we're getting on the street. Okay, so

958
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: we do not have that confirmed. What we do have

959
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: confirmed at the moment is that at fan duel, this

960
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: is the number one versus number two team in the

961
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: National Championship odds. Ohio State is about a three and

962
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: a half point favorite. These are not hypotheticals. You can

963
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: bet this right now if you want to. Each of

964
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: these teams below fifty percent returning production you got arch

965
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: Manning versus Julian saying we're calling that now. It's like

966
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 2: election night, one percent of the vote is in. I'm

967
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: calling the Ohio state quarterback race for Julian saying I'm

968
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: doing it. No one else, not Ryan Day. We did

969
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: not consult with them before this, but I think that's

970
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: what the quarterback matchup will be. That's a college football

971
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: playoff semi final rematch. This is an SEC Big ten

972
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: barometer game. Also, it's two of the most iconic brands

973
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: in the sport, So looking forward to that one. Also

974
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 2: in Week one, LSU goes to Clemson. Notice where these

975
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 2: games are being played on college CAMPI not neutral site,

976
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: sterile environments. So good for these teams for agreeing to this.

977
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: We got Garrett Nussmeyer k klub Nick one of the

978
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: great quarterback matchups of the year happening in Week one.

979
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: Forecast high temperature, I'm gonna call ninety three. I'm gonna

980
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: call for a ninety three degree kickoff. Both of these

981
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: teams believe that they can win the national championship this

982
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: upcoming year. They may be right, they may be wrong.

983
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 2: That's the beauty and horror of Week one. No One

984
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: really knows who they are. Brian Kelly the week one curse?

985
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: Does that continue? Clemson's about a two and a half

986
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: point favorite at FanDuel in this game right now, so

987
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: that's home.

988
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: Field, maybe not quite home field.

989
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: So that's an odds maker saying, yeah, we think these

990
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: teams are about equal on a neutral field.

991
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: Have at it. Here's two and a half for home field.

992
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: Have at it.

993
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 2: Auburn plays Baylor in Week one. How random and great

994
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: is that? Auburn at Baylor in Week one? Totally random?

995
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: It's producer Jesse asked me earlier today, is that a

996
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: make or break game? And I said, for who he met,

997
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 2: Hugh Freeze. But we are not all that far removed

998
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 2: from Dave A. Randa's name being on the chopping blot.

999
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: I didn't agree with it, per se, but it was there.

1000
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 2: Then they made a run in the back half of

1001
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: the season which bought him a little equity. But you

1002
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: can burn all that up really quick if you get

1003
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: beat thirty to thirteen by turnover prone Auburn in Week one,

1004
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: because maybe they're not turnover prone anymore. Even though they

1005
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: were turnover prone. Freezes offense has always been turnover prom

1006
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: Jackson Arnold was an extremely turnover prone quarterback, and we

1007
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 2: just married the two. Despite all that, college football, you know,

1008
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: delivers some unforeseen results every single year, maybe that's one

1009
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: of them. Auburn is favored in this game as of now.

1010
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: So if you're out there and you're thinking to yourself, Baylor,

1011
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: Baylor's an upstart team, Baylor is a sleeper, Baylor is

1012
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: this and that. Well, oddsmakers are giving you Baylor and

1013
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 2: a pointer or two against Auburn. So if you believe

1014
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 2: that it's time to prove it a couple more Week

1015
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 2: one games, I'm not really going to dive into. You know,

1016
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: Bama plays at Florida State Week one, brand new. I

1017
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: think Dolk Campbell Stadium is open, the new version.

1018
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: Of it by them.

1019
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 2: Notre Dame's at Miami in Week one. None of those

1020
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: are neutral sites. So to everyone playing on home CAMPI

1021
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: good for you. Week two Michigan at Oklahoma. We were

1022
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: just in Oklahoma yesterday. I was talking to jokes Stick Leon,

1023
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 2: who's the ad there about getting this thing scheduled. They

1024
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: wanted this game for a long time and they finally

1025
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 2: got it. Do we see here's a good question. It's

1026
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,479
Speaker 2: March right now, April, May, June, July. I got five

1027
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: months or something like that. Do we see Bryce Underwood

1028
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 2: starting for Michigan on the road against Brent Venables in

1029
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: Norman in week two? Do we think he's the starting

1030
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,959
Speaker 2: quarterback that early? That's kind of what I was talking

1031
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: about earlier. And how are we viewing games like this?

1032
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: By the way, I didn't even think about this, but

1033
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: all these big games. Understand, every one of these teams

1034
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: could have scheduled a low level G five or even

1035
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: FCS creampuff in Week one. Okay, all of them could

1036
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: have and they didn't. So yet again we look through

1037
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: one of the biggest lies in college football.

1038
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: You are what your record says you are.

1039
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: Let's look through that for a second and understand the

1040
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: reality that any one of these teams could have dialed

1041
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: in automatic W in week one.

1042
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: They didn't.

1043
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: They're challenging themselves. How does the committee look at that?

1044
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 2: Down the road? Also, John Mattier, this is probably his

1045
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 2: debut to the world. The you transfer quarterback there for Oklahoma.

1046
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: This is probably when most of you watch him for

1047
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: the first time. How about Week three, A and M

1048
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 2: goes to Notre Dame. Yet again, these are two more

1049
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: home campus games.

1050
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: Great love it.

1051
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: This is one of Notre Dame's biggest hurdles. They play,

1052
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: by my count, two teams in FanDuel's preseason top twenty

1053
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: five odds to make the or to win the title.

1054
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: This is one of them. A and M's one of them,

1055
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: and Miami is the other one.

1056
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: So week one, in Week three, Notre Dame, presumably at

1057
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: least according to the odds, has the two biggest challenges,

1058
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: and there's a buy in between those.

1059
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: How far has Texas A and M.

1060
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 2: Come last year to this year, You'll start to get

1061
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: a good sense of it. They don't play stiff competition

1062
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 2: until this, so this is really the first one for them.

1063
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: And then week four another home campus game. Well, another

1064
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: home venue game is Florida at Miami. It was memorable

1065
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: for all the wrong reasons if you're a Florida fan.

1066
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: Last year, great crowd, great build up, great anticipation. We

1067
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 2: were there, and then cam Ward launched a Heisman campaign

1068
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: against Florida and the Billy Napier hot seat talk ramped

1069
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: up significantly and they got blown out at home. Well,

1070
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: now you ask, could DJ Lagway go on the road

1071
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: and pull a cam Ward on Miami in Miami defense

1072
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: was a question from Miami. Last year they overhauled a

1073
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: lot of that coaching staff. This is week four, it's

1074
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: not week one. Both of them will have played really

1075
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: good teams by them. But that's what I'm very, very

1076
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: interested in the Miami defense. By then, What does it

1077
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,479
Speaker 2: look like, Oh, out of conference season already? Quick trip

1078
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: will fuel you if you want to go to any

1079
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 2: of these games. They fuel us, I know, and we

1080
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 2: go every year. We've been on the road a lot

1081
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: this spring. They have fueled us there and beyond, So

1082
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: we really really appreciate a quick trip. All right, let's

1083
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: move on. In the interest of who we were just

1084
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: talking about. We've been doing this little series. It's been

1085
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: a theme on the show, telling the truth. It's like,

1086
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: tell the truth, march around here. I'm about to allegedly

1087
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 2: tell the truth. Those are two words you always want

1088
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: to marry. Truth and allegedly. Right after I take a

1089
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 2: chugg of water. So who do we do? We did

1090
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffen, we did Lincoln Riley. We're gonna do several

1091
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: more of these. What is the truth about Mario Christibal?

1092
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: At Miami it's always the weirdest conversation on this show.

1093
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: Anytime that we mentioned christ of Ball or Miami, but

1094
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 2: especially Mario, the conversation gets really sideways, really quickly, and

1095
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 2: it's because there's.

1096
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: A lot of motion. For whatever reason.

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00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: A lot of people have a lot of different feelings

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00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: about Mario Christaball. So my approach has been largely unchanged,

1099
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 2: and that is I say two things. I've got my

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00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 2: notes right here. Here are the two things that I

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00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: always say about Mario Christaball. You tell me where you disagree.

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00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 2: Number One, Mario Christaball is an excellent recruiter.

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00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: He is relentless at it. It is what he is

1104
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: known for.

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00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: That's number one, no disagreement, Okay. Number two, He's elevated

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00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: every program he's ever taken over. I count FIU in that,

1107
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: even though we got fired. I think he elevated Fiu.

1108
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: I think there's no question he elevated Oregon. There's no

1109
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: question he has significantly elevated Miami.

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00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: Those are the three.

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00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: And he was an offensive line coach Alabama in the

1112
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: interim they won a couple of titles. So Mario Christaball,

1113
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 2: everywhere he's been has elevated, especially as a head coach

1114
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 2: the program he's at, so he gets really good players

1115
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 2: and he elevates any program that he goes to. Now

1116
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: does anyone disagree with that? Because that's where I stop.

1117
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: That's where I stop. That's that's how I describe Mario Christoval.

1118
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: And you will not believe once we post this video

1119
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 2: what the comment section devolves into.

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00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: And I already tried.

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00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: To prepare for it, So I've prepared a helpful list

1122
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: of the usual shots that people take anytime we talk

1123
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: about crystaball. Mind you, a lot of it is like unsolicited.

1124
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: We don't even ask for it. They'll say, well, he

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00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: hasn't won anything.

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00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1127
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: That logic comes from the people who only think you

1128
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: can accomplish something or tout your accomplishments if you've won

1129
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: a literal national title, never mind the fact that only

1130
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: three active head coaches have ever won one. If you

1131
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: haven't won a national title, you haven't won anything. You know,

1132
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: back to backpack twelve titles at Oregon those count Rose Bowl.

1133
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: That counts no national chanceampionship. You're right.

1134
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: So if you are of the opinion you have to

1135
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: win a national title to have won anything, you're right.

1136
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: He hasn't won anything. I've never thought like that, so

1137
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily feel that way. He's blown it in

1138
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 2: some big spots now that I won't argue with I'm

1139
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 2: not sure he'd argue with it. They've screwed up in

1140
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: some big moments. They've made questionable in game decisions. Yes,

1141
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. My counterpoint to that would be,

1142
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 2: did you notice the things I said about him? I

1143
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: said he's a really good recruiter, and I said he's

1144
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: elevated every program he's ever been at. None of this

1145
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: disproves that, you know. So I'll get back to this

1146
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: in a second. But these are things that always preemptively

1147
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: get fired at us.

1148
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: They will they're.

1149
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: Probably doing it in the live chat right now, but

1150
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: they will absolutely do it in the comments, and they'll

1151
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: also call him overrated, to which my natural response will be, well,

1152
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: what is he rated? Is anyone out there rating Mario

1153
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 2: Christobal a top five active head coach in college football?

1154
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: I don't think they are. If they were, we'd have

1155
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: an argument there. Maybe he is overrated. Where are you

1156
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: rating him? Or if you're calling him overrated, you're talking

1157
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 2: to me, you're talking to someone else.

1158
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: Well, where are we rating him? Where are they rated?

1159
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: Where is he rated?

1160
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 2: That I'll need to know before I know if he's overrated.

1161
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 2: And I will also suggest, because a lot of this feedback,

1162
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: of course, is coming from Gainesville or Tallahassee or people

1163
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: aligned with those programs. If you think Mario Cristiball sucks

1164
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 2: or he's a fraud, or he's overrated or whatnot, and

1165
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: you're a Florida State fan.

1166
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: Shouldn't you be happy he's there?

1167
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: Shouldn't you be happy if you're a Florida Gator fan

1168
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: and he's there, or Clemson or NC State, whoever, shouldn't

1169
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: you be happy if you think Miami has a fraudulent coach,

1170
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: because last thing you wants from Miami to have the

1171
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: right coach.

1172
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: This is where I've always wondered.

1173
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 2: The people who hate on Mario Cristobal and use these

1174
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: kinds of terms around him, shouldn't that make you happy?

1175
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: Because you sure seem angry when you say it.

1176
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: And then I will probably be told, well, yeah, I'm

1177
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: angry because you guys make him up to be something

1178
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 2: he's not, to which I will go back and I

1179
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 2: will say, here is exactly what I've made him out

1180
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: to be. A really good recruiter and a guy who

1181
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 2: has elevated every program he's taken over. That's what I

1182
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 2: make Mario Crista Ball out to be anything more, anything less.

1183
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 2: That's on you, that's not on me. I think he's

1184
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 2: good for college Scratch that, I think Mario crist Ball

1185
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: is excellent for college football number one, because he's a

1186
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: guy coaching at his alma mater. That's always awesome. Anytime

1187
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 2: you can pull that off, and it's not theater, it's real,

1188
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: like the guy's qualified to be there, he wants to

1189
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: be there.

1190
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: That's wonderful.

1191
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: We don't get that a lot, so I always love

1192
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 2: to see that he has forced the ACC to level

1193
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: up because when he came to Miami, folks realized no

1194
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 2: one is going to.

1195
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: Work as tireless lee as he is to recruit.

1196
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: And if he ever really gets it together at Miami,

1197
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: we've seen in the past what that means, so we

1198
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: better get our act together.

1199
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: He forced that.

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01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 2: He forced an attitude change up and down the entire

1201
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 2: ac se.

1202
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: That's good.

1203
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 2: That's good for people like me who have sat here

1204
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: forever and said, why can the ACC not get out

1205
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: of its own way? Well, it's because no one had

1206
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: really turned the heat up on him, so Clemson had,

1207
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 2: but it was Clemson, and like no one else even

1208
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 2: responded to that. So then Florida State starts to show

1209
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 2: a pulse. But then Miami hires Christopaul and they start

1210
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 2: to show a pulse. I think it's been good for

1211
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 2: the conference. Even if you hate Miami, I think it's

1212
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: been good for you. And he made Miami matter again again.

1213
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 2: I don't really care if you hate Miami or love Miami.

1214
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 2: But I've never been a believer college football needs any

1215
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: one team to be good. I am a believer college

1216
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 2: football may be incrementally better when certain teams are good.

1217
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 2: I think Miami is one of those. Even if you

1218
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: hate them, I think it's a good thing. If they matter,

1219
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: They're not on top, they haven't made the Playoff or

1220
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 2: anything like that. I'm not calling them elite. I'm not

1221
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: doing anything more than saying they matter. And if you

1222
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: don't believe me, go bring up Miami. I'm doing it

1223
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: on the show right now. Watch what those comments look like.

1224
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: You think that's gonna happen if I bring up wake Forest,

1225
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. So Miami matters again. That to me is

1226
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 2: a good thing. So Mario Cristobal excellent recruiter. He's elevated

1227
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: every place he's ever taken over. Now, from that point,

1228
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: we acknowledge we don't know what the future holds. He's

1229
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: got an opportunity to become legendary down there. There's sometimes

1230
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: it feels like there's a long way to go. Sometimes

1231
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: it feels like they're really close. I will tell you this.

1232
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: I go down there occasionally, I'll watch practice.

1233
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: I've watched them on game day.

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01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 2: To say they don't look different than they did before

1235
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: he got there is just lying to yourself. They may

1236
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: not be winning every game, and they may blow some

1237
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 2: games that they have no business losing. That program's a

1238
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: lot closer than it was before he got there, which

1239
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 2: goes back to one of the two things that I

1240
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 2: will forever say about him.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: One of our esteemed viewers, Daniel from Cincinnati, hit me.

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Speaker 2: He said, why have you backed off Florida State after

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Speaker 2: one down season? I just want to let you know

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Speaker 2: we don't need you after you showed your true colors

1281
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 2: last year. And just so you know, we noticed. This

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Speaker 2: is my life, This is my life. First question, who

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Speaker 2: is we?

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Speaker 1: Daniel?

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Speaker 2: Who is we noticed? He said, we noticed, hoomst Hoomst noticed. Secondly, actually,

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Speaker 2: I want to circle back to this later. I got

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Speaker 2: a little secret to tell you about Florida State fans

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Speaker 2: as it relates to this show. I would like to

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Speaker 2: recap my true colors.

1290
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Speaker 1: Daniel said.

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Speaker 2: I exposed my true colors because I started second guessing

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Speaker 2: Florida State after last year, and shame on me.

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01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: Shame on me.

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01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 2: Here are my true colors. I expected Florida State to

1295
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: be really good last year. They were historically bad last year.

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Speaker 2: It made me question everything. This concludes my true colors.

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01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 2: So have I just described any feeling that you guys

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01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 2: didn't feel?

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01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: Daniel?

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01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 2: Daniel plus we it's a great band named Daniel and Daniel?

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01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: Did you believe in Florida State? Wire to wire? Last year?

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01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: Did you ever log into a message board and say

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01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: some questionable things about Mike Norvel? Do you still have

1304
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: some lingering doubt about the team in the back of

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01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: your mind right now?

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01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes you do. So why is it any

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01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 2: different if I say that? And for the record, I've

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01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 2: even said I still believe in Mike Norvel And if

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01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 2: you peruse your local Florida State message board, that's much

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01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 2: nicer sentiment than some of them are expressing. So, how

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01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 2: here's a great question, Daniel, I said what I said

1312
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 2: about him last year? I was probably tame compared to

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01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: what the outside world was saying. But let's say I

1314
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: ripped into pieces. How would you have had me talk

1315
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 2: about Florida State last year? This was a preseason favorite

1316
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,919
Speaker 2: to win the conference and they went two and ten,

1317
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: two and ten, Vanderbilt had a higher over underwent total

1318
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: of two, and Vegas thought they were gonna suck.

1319
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: So how should I.

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01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 2: Have talked about Florida State last year? Can you imagine

1321
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 2: how fraudulent I would have sounded if anywhere during this

1322
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: little stretch l L l LL. Can you imagine after

1323
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: the North Carolina loss to move them to what two

1324
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 2: and two and eight? If I would have said, you know,

1325
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 2: I know they've lost five in a row, but I

1326
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 2: really think it's coming together. Let's let's see what they

1327
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 2: do against Notre Dame fifty two to three loss. I

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01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 2: would not have watched this show if it were being

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01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: broadcast in my backyard.

1330
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: I would have closed the blinds.

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01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 2: That's how little respect we would have had if we

1332
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 2: pretended Orda State was anything other than a smoldering tire fire.

1333
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: Last year.

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01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 2: Everybody knew it. It's disingenuous to suggest otherwise. What we

1335
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: can do is hope for better results this year. Colin,

1336
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 2: could you do me a favorite? Because you throw the

1337
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 2: question back up again, I did want to just point

1338
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: something out. There's been a refrain. It didn't really start

1339
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: last year. It started the year before because I was

1340
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 2: perceived to have done the old flipper roo on Florida State.

1341
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't have.

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01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 2: In fact, I want to get off air right now,

1343
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 2: so I don't have a long time. I don't have

1344
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 2: enough time to re express what happened and why I

1345
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 2: felt the way I did.

1346
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: I've done it several times on the show.

1347
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: At one point in the twenty twenty three season, I said,

1348
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 2: if Florida State goes undefeated, they should be a lot

1349
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: to be in the playoff. They went undefeated, but Travis

1350
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 2: got hurt, and then I started having a big problem

1351
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: with the idea that a committee was going to determine

1352
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 2: the value of a player. So I was one even

1353
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 2: after Jordan Travis that was saying, if Florida State wins out,

1354
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 2: they should be in the playoff. But then on selection Sunday,

1355
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 2: I said, no, I think the committee got it right.

1356
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 2: They put Alabama in over Florida State. That sounded very hypocritical.

1357
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: What happened the week of the title game is the

1358
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 2: head of the playoff committee came out, not me. He

1359
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 2: came out and he said most deserving is not in

1360
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 2: our lexicon. Those were his exact words. I don't even

1361
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 2: have it written down. I still remember it. He said,

1362
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 2: most deserving team is not in our lexicon. It's about

1363
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 2: the best team. At that point, my sentiment was erased

1364
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 2: because at that point the playoff committee guy was saying,

1365
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 2: we want the best teams in well, Florida State without

1366
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 2: Jordan Travis wasn't one of the best teams.

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01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: Is that subjective? Yes it is. I don't care what

1368
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: they did against Georgia.

1369
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 2: I don't need that that circumstance, I don't need that.

1370
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 2: I'm telling you my eyeballs said, yeah, I think Alabama's

1371
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 2: better than Florida State without their starting quarterback. And so

1372
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 2: I thought that the committee, based on their criteria, made

1373
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 2: the right call. And yet I also thought Florida State

1374
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 2: got jilted because I thought the committee changed their criteria

1375
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 2: at the eleventh hour. So Florida State fans, some of

1376
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 2: them didn't want to hear that. They just wanted to

1377
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 2: hear that I wasn't on their side, and then they

1378
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: wanted to trash me.

1379
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: Most of them didn't know.

1380
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: To get back to what Colin's showing you right here,

1381
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 2: he said, just want to let you know we don't

1382
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 2: need you after you showed your true colors this there

1383
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 2: was this sentiment on some Florida State fan sites that

1384
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 2: all Florida State folks hated us and hated this show.

1385
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't the ones who talked to.

1386
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 2: What we found in our analytics is we have grown

1387
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 2: amongst the Florida State fan base. It's one of our

1388
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 2: top ten viewership fan bases. All of the private correspondence

1389
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 2: we get from Florida State's positive and it over. I

1390
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:55,759
Speaker 2: think it probably supersedes by a ten to one ratio

1391
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 2: the negative things that are said. So it's a non issue.

1392
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 2: Like the whole bad bloe blood concept. What the lower

1393
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 2: says right here is they're bad blood between FSU and

1394
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: Pate State. No, there's bad blood in the people who

1395
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 2: choose to press send on the Internet. But like we

1396
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 2: said to start the show, internet's not real life. In

1397
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: real life, we're fine with Florida State. We're fine with

1398
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 2: the Athletic Department. We're fine with Florida State fans. Florida

1399
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 2: State was terrible last year. Hopefully they'll be a lot

1400
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 2: better this year. It sucked what happened to him the

1401
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 2: year before where they didn't make the playoff. I didn't

1402
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 2: control that. Jordan Travis got hurt. I didn't control the

1403
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: playoff committee hypocritically Ballid hypocritically changed their criteria at the

1404
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: eleventh hour.

1405
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: I had an opinion on it. I shared it. It

1406
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 1: is what it is. It was what it was that

1407
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: concludes the dynamic between this show and Florida State.

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01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's go watch some basketball. Appreciate you guys

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Speaker 2: so much. We'll be back here Sunday night. Until then

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Speaker 2: for director Colin and producer Jesse, I'm Josh Pate.

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