WEBVTT - Creature Classic: Whale of a Tale

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Creature future production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host

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<v Speaker 1>of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,

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<v Speaker 1>and today on the show, we're talking about some scary

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<v Speaker 1>urban legends about animals and showing you that there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to fear. Well, okay, maybe there is, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>what you think. From getting swallowed by a whale to

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<v Speaker 1>a small fish going where no fish has gone before,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see what you should really be scared of.

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<v Speaker 1>Discover this more as we answered the asual question, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>are you telling me that Gray's anatomy might have stretched

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<v Speaker 1>the truth? Joining me today is someone who puts the

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<v Speaker 1>legend in urban legends, video essays, and snake lover Maggie

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<v Speaker 1>may Fish. Hello, Katie, welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually really excited for this episode because I'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Like to be at greatly afraid. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like to be afraid of things that I

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<v Speaker 3>don't need to be afraid about, but I like being afraid,

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<v Speaker 3>so I like to aim it at those responsible in

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<v Speaker 3>this case animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Right exactly, Like when I see a bear, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>can I see, like how big your teeth. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>measure your teeth, Let me measure your class. See if

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<v Speaker 1>I really should be afraid of you?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, are you still cub or?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you hadn't?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? I see that you've like bitten my arm off.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you're right, you met criteria. You've even that

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<v Speaker 1>I am afraid of you. Yes, indeed. Yeah. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there are a lot of urban legends

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<v Speaker 1>about animals. Some of them are not really the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is something out there that is just as scary.

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<v Speaker 1>So which is always funny to me, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it makes sense why we have urban legends, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun to be scared or rationalizing our already existing fears.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when there's something that's real that actually does

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<v Speaker 1>those things, that doesn't quite make it to be an

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<v Speaker 1>urban legend, it's like, well, okay, it's right there, you

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<v Speaker 1>got the truth. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I don't know if you've seen this story yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but someone in Cape Cod, a lobster diver, said he

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<v Speaker 1>was swallowed by a whale.

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<v Speaker 3>I did see this, and I saw that his fellow

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<v Speaker 3>fisherman backed him up instaid.

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely believe that he was swallowed by a whale. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think, Katie.

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<v Speaker 1>So he said that he was completely inside the whale

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<v Speaker 1>and that the whale shook its head a few times

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<v Speaker 1>before spitting him back out. So I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>call this man a liar, first of all, because he's

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<v Speaker 1>a lobster diver in Cape Cod, and I don't that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the demographic I want.

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<v Speaker 2>Mad at me precisely.

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<v Speaker 3>You could be the next gate that they put.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>He really is lying. I think that, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>he may have misinterpreted what actually happened to him, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least maybe someone who was interviewing him put words

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<v Speaker 1>in his mouth. I don't know, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he was actually swallowed by the whale. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of swished around in a whale's mouth like

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<v Speaker 1>some listing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna say the way that he described it.

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<v Speaker 3>The first image that came to mind is like wine tasting,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like like like the whale was curious and.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like this human.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, depending on where he's from, it could be

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<v Speaker 3>very salty, human, could be very sweet, could have some

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<v Speaker 3>undertoned So it seemed like he was just you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>test tasting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this guy was like in his fifties, so it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is kind of an aged human. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got a nice bouquet, you know, swished it around his

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<v Speaker 1>mouth and spat him out. Yeah, because there's actually no

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<v Speaker 1>way for a humpback whale to actually swallow you whole.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just not really gonna happen, at least not an

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<v Speaker 1>adult like that. So humpback whales are not They are carnivores,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't want to eat humans because they actually

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<v Speaker 1>eat little tiny things like krill and small fish. So

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<v Speaker 1>anything the size of a human is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>mean food to them, right.

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<v Speaker 3>They would see it as like a floatation device, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>a safety and floatation device.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, right exactly, some kind of strange curiosity to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe taste but not eat. In fact, they don't really

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<v Speaker 1>typically want to taste you. Even we're kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>joking about the whale somalie thing. Probably what happened was

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake. So probably it was taking in a big

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<v Speaker 1>gulp of water to try to get some krill or

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<v Speaker 1>get some small fish because they have baling. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>even have teeth to bite you, and baling is like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's got a bunch of brooms in its

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<v Speaker 1>mouth or something, and it's it's not teeth, it's to

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<v Speaker 1>filter out. They suck in a huge volume of water

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<v Speaker 1>and then goosh it out, push it all out, and

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<v Speaker 1>then trap all the fish uh in the uh in

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<v Speaker 1>the balens. So like when it's a human, they can't

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<v Speaker 1>even really bite your teeth, so they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>chew you up and swallow you. It's a total mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>And their throat just can't accommodate a human. Like typically

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<v Speaker 1>the throat is only about the size of a human

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<v Speaker 1>fist like in diameter. It can ex yeah, especially for

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<v Speaker 1>a huge whale that is beat because it's just for

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<v Speaker 1>krill and tiny fish. It can expand to about the

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<v Speaker 1>size or diameter of a pizza, And that's like the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest it can really expand. And so for a human

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<v Speaker 1>to fit through that like it would be a struggle

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<v Speaker 1>because if it's about fifteen inches wide, like about the

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<v Speaker 1>size of a pizza, human shoulders are about fifteen inches

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<v Speaker 1>wide if not wider, and so to get down the

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<v Speaker 1>whale throat you'd have to kind of like like put

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<v Speaker 1>your arms forward, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you'd have to treat it like a slide, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to like dive into it and like probably

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<v Speaker 3>lubricate yourself a little bit so that you go down

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<v Speaker 3>coat yourself in butter.

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<v Speaker 1>And then probably the whale is gonna be highly resistant

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<v Speaker 1>to this because it's not used to having something so

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<v Speaker 1>big in its throat. So I feel like the human

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<v Speaker 1>would have to be the one really trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>down there for whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm already in the mouth, but I'm getting the stomach

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<v Speaker 2>is not gonna be a story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, get down. Yeah. So, in fact, there's really only

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<v Speaker 1>one whale in the world who could without chewing, just

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<v Speaker 1>easily swallow a human hole, and that would be a

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<v Speaker 1>sperm whale who can and have swallowed giant squid, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've found like hold giant squid in their stomachs. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably never ever going to be swallowed by a

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<v Speaker 1>sperm whale simply because they don't live where humans can

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<v Speaker 1>easily survive.

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't even think about that. It's a huge os. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not only are they probably not going to pursue

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<v Speaker 1>humans as prey because they just wouldn't really recognize the

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<v Speaker 1>human as normal prey that they would encounter, but they

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<v Speaker 1>also live. The reason you've like when you go whale watching,

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<v Speaker 1>you typically don't see a sperm whale is they live

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<v Speaker 1>at around ten thousand feet or a little over three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand meters under the sea. So encounters with yes. We

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it's a problem for biologists because we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that much about sperm whales, given they live so deep

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<v Speaker 1>in the ocean, and it's not very easy to observe

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<v Speaker 1>their behaviors, like I don't even think we know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>like how their mating goes and all these things. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of mysteries about sperm whales and another

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<v Speaker 1>deep sea living whales, and they do come up to

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<v Speaker 1>breach to the surface, but they spend a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>their time very deep in the ocean. So a human

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<v Speaker 1>diver would have a lot more problems to worry about

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<v Speaker 1>if they're hanging out at ten thousand feet under the

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<v Speaker 1>ocean and getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Swallows by way pressure. Yeah, yeah, sinking into their goals.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, their lungs and internal organs would turn into

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of jello salad at that point. So the

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<v Speaker 1>furthest a human can dive without getting their lungs crushed

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<v Speaker 1>is about sixty feet or eighteen meters compared to three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand meters or ten thousand feet, So you'd be very

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<v Speaker 1>you'd already be pretty dead at that point. You'd be

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<v Speaker 1>extremely dead.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd be big dead. You'd be big dead, big.

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<v Speaker 1>Dead hashtag big dead. Yeah. So, I mean, like the

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<v Speaker 1>only time you would really encounter a sperm while is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the rare times they come up to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because they are mammals, they do need to breathe, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that they would particularly be in a

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<v Speaker 1>hunting mood at that at that time. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're like coming up to take a breath and then

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<v Speaker 1>they'll dive back down. They don't like hang around and like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>who's this is this lobster dive? Alt try this out? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why people don't typically get swallowed by sperm whales.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, and I'm thinking about like Pinocchio, that

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. If Geppetto got swallowed by monster or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that whale was, like again, he would already be super

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<v Speaker 1>dead and jellyfied at those depths, right Pinocchio, though, he's

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<v Speaker 1>like made out of wood, so he could potentially go

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<v Speaker 1>down to ten thousand feet under the sea without immediately dying.

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<v Speaker 1>But as soon as his wish is granted to be

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<v Speaker 1>a real boy, he would just instantly be crushed, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>by the weight of the ocean.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're saying in the film Pinocchio and geppetto actually

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<v Speaker 3>die within the whale and everything after that is yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just a fever dream of a puppet wooden boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Also, yeah, I don't think a whale's stomach is

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<v Speaker 1>a big, empty, air filled cavern with fire.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like, right, with a little fire and a pull.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with that is actually a whale deep diving whales,

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<v Speaker 1>like sperm whales, will push out all air that isn't

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<v Speaker 1>like all the air and their lungs and certainly like

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going to have a lot of air in

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<v Speaker 1>their tummies so that when they go down and come up,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't get the bins, which as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>like the the dissolving of air into the blood stream.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not it's bad, bad for your cells, bad

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<v Speaker 1>for your tissues. And then it's also their their lungs

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<v Speaker 1>and because they do have lungs again, they breathe there

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<v Speaker 1>when they come up, they exhale and then inhale with

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<v Speaker 1>their blowholes, and they do fill their lungs up, but

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<v Speaker 1>they have such a huge volume of blood their blood

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<v Speaker 1>gets oxygenated, and then as they go down, they'reungs can

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<v Speaker 1>collapse and then push out all the air so that

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<v Speaker 1>but by that time their blood is already super enriched

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<v Speaker 1>with oxygen, and their lungs are also their rib cages

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<v Speaker 1>and lungs are sort of designed to collapse and expand,

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<v Speaker 1>so so they can withstand that, whereas we we can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Are frail bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it just becomes sort of I mean, like the

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<v Speaker 1>exterior of our body probably won't look that weird. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe our eyes will like blood vessels in our

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<v Speaker 1>eyes will burst or something, but inside it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a hor show. Yeah. Yeah, so actually, so do you

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<v Speaker 1>know I sperm whales are called sperm whales.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like maybe I've been told, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what the truth is.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite frankly, Katie, Well, I'm gonna admit that I just

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<v Speaker 1>learned this, so don't feel don't feel bad about obed.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was thinking, like, there's got to be like

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<v Speaker 1>an innocuate because like it's like a little sperm whales.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know, can yeah, go for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think maybe it has something to do with

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<v Speaker 3>this thing, like their blubber resembles sperm.

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<v Speaker 1>You're very close. You're very very close. Yeah, ok yeah

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<v Speaker 1>they are. Actually they used to be called, uh, spermachetti

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<v Speaker 1>whales because inside the whales head cavity because like their

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<v Speaker 1>heads are very fatty, they have uh, it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>skull and like they have a lot of sort of

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<v Speaker 1>area around their skull. They have an waxy, oily white

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<v Speaker 1>substance called spermachetti. And it's called spermachetti because people thought

0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:44.520
<v Speaker 1>this was the whales semen.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it is not. Uh. It is in fact a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of waxy, oily substance that has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with reproduction. But because they were dirty sailors, they called

0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:05.240
<v Speaker 1>them spermachetti whales and they made candles and stuff out

0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.280
<v Speaker 1>of this. It was it's so crazy because they're like, oh, yeah,

0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.120
<v Speaker 1>this is probably the whales sperm, let's make some candles

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<v Speaker 1>out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Candles, family.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is actually probably used by the whale as

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<v Speaker 1>a resonance chamber in their head to aid in echolocation,

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<v Speaker 1>or it could also in addition help with buoyancy. So

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<v Speaker 1>regulating buoyancy because again, like a lot of animals, not

0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:39.199
<v Speaker 1>just whales, but fish as well that are deep sea divers,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want any like gases inside their bodies because

0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.480
<v Speaker 1>that is a problem when you're under those pressures and

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<v Speaker 1>then you you know, so.

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<v Speaker 2>So burst out your head instead of your body.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they get they get too well, they get too compressed,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can get the bins and so it

0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:01.600
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't really work. So so fish off and instead

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<v Speaker 1>of a swim bladder full of a gas like like

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<v Speaker 1>fish that are more near the surface might have, they

0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:11.680
<v Speaker 1>have like oily substances in it. So similarly, these sperm

0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:16.240
<v Speaker 1>whales there, if they need to regulate their buoyancy, they

0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to have any like air filled chambers. They

0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:23.000
<v Speaker 1>want to have an oily substance, a liquid that because

0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:27.720
<v Speaker 1>liquid can't get that compressed, but air and gases can

0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:31.120
<v Speaker 1>become compressed, and that's a big problem underwater.

0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:33.720
<v Speaker 2>Hence sperm in the head.

0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Hence sperm in the head exactly sperm the head. So

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<v Speaker 1>basically you don't need to worry about being swallowed by

0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.360
<v Speaker 1>a whale. It's not gonna happen, and this guy again,

0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.600
<v Speaker 1>he was probably swished around in the whale's mouth, not

0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.160
<v Speaker 1>really swallowed, you know, the.

0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:55.720
<v Speaker 3>Whale in honor actually at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, the guy was. The guy was a good

0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:57.840
<v Speaker 1>sport about it too. He's like, I just like to

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<v Speaker 1>apologize to the whale for like having to taste me.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I don't, I don't really necessarily, I know that, like,

0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, fishermen like to tell fish tales. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think he probably something did happen. He probably did have

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<v Speaker 1>an encounter with a humpback whale, but it was just

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<v Speaker 1>a little it was a little love nibble by the

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<v Speaker 1>by the whale or you know, a mistake. Probably It's

0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:26.400
<v Speaker 1>like when you get a fly in your mouth. You're like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we are to whales. But can we be

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<v Speaker 1>swallowed whole by an animal? Is there such a thing? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we could be swallowed whole by a reticulated python.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy snakes. Yeah, I love game.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you do. You have a little python of

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<v Speaker 1>your own, not a reticulated python. But uh, he's a

0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:53.680
<v Speaker 1>ball python, right, yep, yep, baby, yeah, yeah, he's not

0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna he's not gonna swallow you whole anytime soon. But

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<v Speaker 1>the reticulated python, while this is very rare, they can

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<v Speaker 1>swallow a person whole, and in fact they have so.

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<v Speaker 1>Giant reticulated pythons in Indonesia have been known to once

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<v Speaker 1>in a while swallow a person and kill them. These

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<v Speaker 1>pythons can grow up to twenty feet or six meters

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<v Speaker 1>long and way up to one hundred and sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>pounds or seventy five kilograms, and their jaws can expand

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<v Speaker 1>as far as its skin can stretch, So they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the same hinge joint that human jaws have. They don't,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's often said that their jaws like dislocate.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not really true because they're never located in the

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<v Speaker 1>person place.

0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.400
<v Speaker 2>They've never been located right right, They just aren't.

0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.320
<v Speaker 1>They aren't connected like a human jaw. So they can

0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:54.240
<v Speaker 1>expand their jaws much as their mouthskin can stretch, and

0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:59.560
<v Speaker 1>they can swallow enormous prey such as pigs and even

0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:05.120
<v Speaker 1>small cows sometimes. Eh. Yeah, Unfortunately, this means they can

0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:10.160
<v Speaker 1>also swallow a human. In twenty eighteen, a fifty four

0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.679
<v Speaker 1>year old woman was killed and swallowed whole by a

0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:18.520
<v Speaker 1>reticulated python, and there have been other cases of farmers

0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and kids potentially getting swallowed whole by these pythons. It

0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:28.440
<v Speaker 1>is very rare. So again, even if you live in

0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.760
<v Speaker 1>an area where there are reticulated pythons, your chances of

0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.080
<v Speaker 1>being killed by one are very low. But when it

0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:41.600
<v Speaker 1>does happen, it is very horrifying. So you might wonder like, well,

0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:45.000
<v Speaker 1>how can you know, how could they just swallow a person? Like,

0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.159
<v Speaker 1>how could they? Because you know, you would imagine like

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<v Speaker 1>you'd run away, right, you know if a python's just

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<v Speaker 1>like try, I.

0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Feel like you try, right, you know, maybe h right?

0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:58.160
<v Speaker 1>But they actually it doesn't seem like a python could

0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:02.080
<v Speaker 1>like outrun a human. But they're actually ambush predators and

0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.560
<v Speaker 1>they kill their pay Yeah, they kill their prey by

0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:09.840
<v Speaker 1>suffocating their victims. So they sneak up on you and

0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:14.000
<v Speaker 1>then they strike at their prey and bite down, not

0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.280
<v Speaker 1>to inject venom because they don't actually have venom, but

0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.240
<v Speaker 1>just to hold you in place. Well, they very like

0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:25.040
<v Speaker 1>surprisingly quickly can wrap their coils around you, and then

0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:29.440
<v Speaker 1>once you're in those coils, you're kind of doomed unless

0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.359
<v Speaker 1>you have a machete and you have the strength to

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<v Speaker 1>like fight it off where there are people around who

0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.040
<v Speaker 1>can help extract you. If you're on your own and

0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.840
<v Speaker 1>you don't have any means to defend yourself, you're kind

0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.280
<v Speaker 1>of doomed because once those once it gives you that

0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:49.639
<v Speaker 1>hug of death, it will literally crush you until you

0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:54.600
<v Speaker 1>can't breathe and then you will asphyxiate. Which, yeah, it's

0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:58.200
<v Speaker 1>very scary. It's a little less scary than like being

0:18:58.240 --> 0:18:59.880
<v Speaker 1>swallowed alive, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, say it kindly puts you out of your misery, very.

0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Sweet of it, very kind of it. Yeah, well, kindness

0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:09.840
<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with it. It just doesn't want

0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.200
<v Speaker 1>you to choke it, like to wiggle and fight while

0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.400
<v Speaker 1>it's still inside of you, because that can kill. That

0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.320
<v Speaker 1>can kill a reticulated python.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, from the python's point of view, what a

0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.840
<v Speaker 3>masterful way to eat you. Just you kill it, You

0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:27.080
<v Speaker 3>crush until it's just a tiny little tube of you know,

0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.760
<v Speaker 3>like you can stuck it down like a yogurt a gogurt.

0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, to be fair, they don't. When they crush their

0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:38.119
<v Speaker 1>their victim, often the body is actually pretty intact. In fact,

0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:42.040
<v Speaker 1>this is a little bit horrible. But when they cut

0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:47.040
<v Speaker 1>open a python. They can find bodies completely intact if

0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:51.119
<v Speaker 1>they haven't started digesting them. And this includes unfortunately, human

0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:55.000
<v Speaker 1>victims who they find their bodies intact, but they are

0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:59.119
<v Speaker 1>sadly already passed away because they have been asphyxiated. So

0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:03.640
<v Speaker 1>they actually swallow their prey head first because that's just easier,

0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:04.520
<v Speaker 1>easier to cow.

0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:08.800
<v Speaker 3>And when I feed my snake, yeah, always eats the

0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:09.439
<v Speaker 3>head first.

0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you see it, like make it makes sense, you know.

0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The body, well, it's like it's the arms, you know,

0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:19.679
<v Speaker 1>it's it just kind of smooshes down pretty easy, and

0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:23.160
<v Speaker 1>they have very strong muscle contractions to get it down

0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:27.760
<v Speaker 1>into their very expandable bellies. Like you see one of

0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:31.119
<v Speaker 1>these pythons, and when it has a big meal, it

0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.000
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be a human. It can be like

0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:36.760
<v Speaker 1>a pig or a deer or something like. It's just

0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:40.040
<v Speaker 1>there's this huge bulge in its stomach and then it

0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:44.800
<v Speaker 1>can like not eat for like many many months like

0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:46.720
<v Speaker 1>it like if it has a big I think it

0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:50.160
<v Speaker 1>can even like hold off for like over a year

0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.920
<v Speaker 1>like once it has a big meal like that. Yeah,

0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:58.199
<v Speaker 1>So unfortunately, both for the human and for the snake, uh,

0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.240
<v Speaker 1>if it does eat a human. This is ideal for

0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the reticulated python. Obviously it's not ideal for human either,

0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:10.639
<v Speaker 1>but clothes cannot be digested, so it will actually kill

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:15.159
<v Speaker 1>the reticulated python if like often it is actually killed

0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:18.959
<v Speaker 1>by by humans because like they're looking for a missing person,

0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:22.000
<v Speaker 1>they find a python with a suspicious bulge and then

0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:25.040
<v Speaker 1>they kill the python. And when they do that, they're

0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:28.120
<v Speaker 1>actually probably sparing the python a lot of misery because

0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:30.920
<v Speaker 1>they are not going to be able to digest all

0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:34.159
<v Speaker 1>of that all of those clothes, and they'll get a

0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:38.160
<v Speaker 1>stomach impaction. They can digest bone, though it's not necessarily

0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:41.959
<v Speaker 1>that they can like digest bone completely, but they like

0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:45.680
<v Speaker 1>they can, like they goose it out, like they they

0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:51.680
<v Speaker 1>push out sort of, they'll like regurgitate sort of the

0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:53.080
<v Speaker 1>skeletal remains.

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:57.639
<v Speaker 3>That it too graphic, but yeah, when my uh little

0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:01.400
<v Speaker 3>python goes to the bathroom, there's like he's regular a poop,

0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.800
<v Speaker 3>but then there's like a little ball of white which

0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.760
<v Speaker 3>is like, yeah, like fur and bone kind of a

0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:10.760
<v Speaker 3>just yeah congewoled together, right exactly.

0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I think they can actually poop it all out. I

0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:16.840
<v Speaker 1>think they only regurgitate things if it's like too big

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:21.400
<v Speaker 1>or something. There's actually been problems with pet pythons when

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.320
<v Speaker 1>they eat like accidentally, like I think a towel is food,

0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and then they eat it and then they have to

0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:27.600
<v Speaker 1>be taken to the vat for the towel to be

0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:28.080
<v Speaker 1>pulled out.

0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I've seen that video.

0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, baby, baby, of course, we feel so sorry for

0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:37.879
<v Speaker 1>for the python that ate a human. I mean no,

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I also I feel very very bad for the human victims.

0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.320
<v Speaker 1>It's just a sad it's a sad thing all around,

0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:46.959
<v Speaker 1>Like the python shouldn't be eating the people, and it's

0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:50.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's just it's just it's a tragedy every

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:53.480
<v Speaker 1>way you look at it. When I say, like this

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 1>is what you really should be afraid of, not really,

0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.800
<v Speaker 1>it's such a rare event. It's so newsworthy because in

0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:02.439
<v Speaker 1>the last decade, I think only like a hand, like

0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, you could count on one hand the number

0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:08.479
<v Speaker 1>of people who have been swallowed by a python. Uh

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.679
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's really not something that you have to

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.400
<v Speaker 1>worry about too much. But you know, if a python

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.600
<v Speaker 1>like starts to like wrap around you, you gotta take

0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>that seriously.

0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you guess there, you know, at that moment, Yeah,

0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:23.200
<v Speaker 2>you gotta start thinking.

0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.720
<v Speaker 1>But it's but when it happens to human it's actually

0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:28.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like you may think, like, well, why don't they

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.879
<v Speaker 1>like try to get away, It actually does happen surprisingly fast.

0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:34.199
<v Speaker 1>So once they like bite down on you, especially if

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>you're like a if you're older or smaller, like, as

0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 1>soon as they bite down on you, and they can

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 1>get around you really quickly, and it can be really

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:45.119
<v Speaker 1>difficult to get away. So it's a really, really terrible situation.

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 1>So next time you you feed your cute little.

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Snake, remember that.

0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know, I don't I don't want people

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 1>to be to hate snakes. They're they're really cool, really

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 1>cool animals. This only happens very occasionally.

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's more like they you know, they don't

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:05.639
<v Speaker 2>know what they're not, you know.

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they don't understand. They don't you know, they just sneak.

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>They're just little noodles who like to eat, you know

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:20.640
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. They don't know that they're eating someone's grandma.

0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:30.240
<v Speaker 1>So we talked about snakes, and now we're going to

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 1>talk about spiders, two of the people's most favorite animals. Yeah,

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 1>spiders are often really maligned. There are a lot of

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 1>stories about spiders how scary they are. Typically though they're

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>really not out to get you.

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Right they eat mosquitoes, which I have always seen as uh,

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, very positive.

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we're typically the ones that are actually out to

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>get spiders. There's this recent story in Perth, Australia. Police

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 1>were called by a neighbor of someone who heard a

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 1>man yelling why won't you die and the sounds of

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 1>a crying toddler. So police rushed to the house and

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.119
<v Speaker 1>it turned out the man was just trying to kill

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 1>a large spiders.

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh that is really funny, he apologized to police.

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 1>He said he had a rachnophobia and was panicking, and

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:32.120
<v Speaker 1>of course the toddler was crying because daddy was scared

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:33.440
<v Speaker 1>and there was a giants.

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 2>There was a giant spider.

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So I think I think it's somewhat relatable thing.

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't like to kill spiders, but when they are

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>really large, like alarmingly large, and I know they're gonna

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 1>startle me, I try to at least get them out

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 1>of the house because they're like, you know, it's like

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't like to be startled by a spider. I

0:25:57.720 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 1>don't like to sort of look down and there's like

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:00.440
<v Speaker 1>one on my arm.

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<v Speaker 3>That freaks me out, right, right if you Yeah, if

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:05.440
<v Speaker 3>there's one big enough in the house that I notice it,

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:07.120
<v Speaker 3>I would like it out of.

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 2>The house, presumably.

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if it's smaller than a quarter, you can hang out, buddy,

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>it's fine, you know what, let's just chill.

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want to be found at that point.

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>But there is a myth about spiders actually a couple months.

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 1>One is that like you eat spiders in your sleep,

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:29.360
<v Speaker 1>which it's just not going to happen. Spiders don't want

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>to be eaten by you. They don't want to get

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 1>in there. No, So that's that's there's really not truth

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.880
<v Speaker 1>to that. The other one is that spiders will lay

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>eggs in your ears or your brain.

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Very popular scary stories to tell in the dark story.

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, like a spider lays eggs in someone's

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 1>skin or something. Is that the one?

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she like thinks she has his it.

0:26:55.800 --> 0:27:01.719
<v Speaker 1>It's just spiders. Yeah, yeah, So spiders. Fortunately, all the

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 1>spiders out there, they don't want to do that. They

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be inside you. That's the last thing

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>they want. Very rarely a spider might crawl in your ear.

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>That is not because they want to lay eggs. They're

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>not gonna lay eggs in your brain. They're not gonna

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 1>like drill a hole into your skull. They just think

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>your ear is like a little cozy spot. They mistake

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>it for like a little nook or cranny. They don't

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>realize you're alive. If they did, they would freak out.

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Like it'd be like if you were seeking refuge in

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 1>a cave and then you realize the cave is like

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 1>the ear of a gargantuan monster, you would freak out,

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>you'd be scared. Yeah, this doesn't happen very often, but

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>when a spider crawls into someone's ear, it's a complete mistake.

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>They're not there to lay eggs. And if that ever happens,

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.120
<v Speaker 1>or if any bug crawls in your ear, do not panic.

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Don't like try to dig it out with your fingers.

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Don't go in there with tweezers or like a cotton

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 1>swe because that can either damage your ear or you

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>can like scare the insect and it will actually crawl deeper,

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 1>not because it's trying to like get into your brain,

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.120
<v Speaker 1>because you're scaring it because you're like right, like if

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you're again. Imagine, you know, go take a trip down

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 1>to imagination station. Imagine you're in a cave. It's like

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of cold outside, and you find this cozy

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>little cave. You go inside, and it's nice and warm.

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>In fact, it's like weirdly warm. You're like, oh, this

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>is nice and cozy. And then suddenly you like hear

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:36.360
<v Speaker 1>this low rumbling and then this giant appendage come in

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>to try to like grab you. You're gonna like run

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>deeper into the cave and then like the giant monster

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and side is gonna freak out even more. So what

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>you should do is just go to a doctor.

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>What you should do.

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So if you think there's like a bug in

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>your ear or something, go to a doctor and they

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>will be able to remove it without like shoving anything

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>probably in your ear. Usually I think what doctors do

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>is or they might put something in your ear, but

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>they're a doctor and they're allowed to do that. So

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>usually what they will do is they'll actually flush it

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>out with some sailine and the little spider or whatever

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>insect will just come out surfing on a wave of sailine.

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Because that way, that way just like kind of flushes

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>it out and then it's it will also like want

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>to get out, like it'll swim to the surface of

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the sline if there's water in there. And it's just

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>a much less traumatic way to get a bug out

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>of your ear than to go after it with tweezers.

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>But also this is probably never going to happen to you.

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>It's extremely rare. I mean, this is why it's newsworthy,

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Like it's very very rare bug goods in your ear.

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>So you don't need to be afraid of spiders. They

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>don't they don't lay eggs under your skin. They don't

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>lay eggs in your ears. But before you breathe a

0:29:54.640 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>sigh of relief, okaty, there are insects that will do

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 1>this and one of the one of the creepiest ones

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, are screw worms. So you know, this

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>is the part where I warn you this section is

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna get a little gross. You know, if you want

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>to skip ahead, like if you have trip of phobia

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>or fear of like insects, like parasites, human you know,

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of parasites, you can join back in at part three.

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>At we're actually in part three, we're going to talk

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>about a fish that allegedly swims up people's urethras. So

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>if that also sounds too gross, maybe the rest of

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>this episode isn't for you, and I'll see you next week.

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>But if you want to skip the screw worm section

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and you want to come back just for the penis

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>fish one, you know, join us back in at this

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>time stamp take it away, Future Katie, pretty one, all right,

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>So for those of you Katie, thanks, thanks to you, Katie,

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>and now back to past Katie. So now we're going

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>to talk about screw worms and how horrifying they really are.

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>So these are New World screw worm flies which are

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>found throughout the humid areas of the Americas. So the

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>adult version looks benign, just like a standard fly. I

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>in the show notes, I have included a picture of

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>the adult in the larva and absolutely no other pictures

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>of what happens with screwing.

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 2>You for that, thank you for If you're.

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Curious what they look like but you don't want to

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>see like body horror stuff, you can look at the

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>dock link below and there's no body horror stuff, just

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the fly and just the maggot. If you're curious to

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>see what they look like. I recommend against googling if

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you are grossed out by you know, medical pictures and

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>body horror stuff, you don't want to see that. Again,

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>the adult looks pretty innocuous, just like sadies.

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Both look very Yeah. Normal, You got a normal larva,

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:02.719
<v Speaker 2>a normal fly.

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And they're called screwworms because the law you can

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>see the larva is kind of like segmented, so it's

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>like kind of I guess screw like in a way.

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 1>It's sort of like tapered and it's got like it

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>looks maybe like it has screw threads or something, but

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's not that alarming looking really, no, not

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>at all.

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I just all that going around, I'd be like, checks out,

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 2>that's a book.

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>That's fine, you know, not start to worry about it

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 1>getting inside your body, but you probably should. So. Female

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>screwflies will lay their eggs in the wounds or bodily

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>openings of animals, including on occasion, humans, So the eggs

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>only take about twenty four hours to hatch, and the

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>larva will start to feed on the flesh and fluids

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>of their host. So on at least one occasion, they

0:32:54.840 --> 0:33:00.479
<v Speaker 1>have gotten into a human ear and on multiplesis they

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>have gotten inside human skin. Usually like if you have

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>a a open wound or something. Uh, it's the The

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>flies don't like bite you and put it inside you,

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 1>but they look for an opening, like a literal opening,

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 1>wait for a literal opening. But this could even be

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>something like in newborn animals. Often like the infect livestock

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and so a newborn calf or something, they go for

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>the the belly button because they're attracted to the smell of.

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Blood.

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes exactly, so like for they don't they won't typically

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>go for like an adult's belly button because that's healed over.

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 1>But for a newborn calf, it's like it still smells

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of bloody. They go in there and it's it's gross.

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to see it. This condition of a

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>larva living inside human tissue is known medically as miasis,

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>and it is gross and bad and you don't want

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it to happen bad And my official medical opinion it's

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>gross and bad.

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 3>Agree in my official non medical opinion, it's gross and bad.

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, the way that screw worms differ from most

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:21.719
<v Speaker 1>maggots is that screw worms actually feed on live tissue,

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>not just dead necrotic tissue.

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:26.760
<v Speaker 3>So I was gonna say, because like you know, growing

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 3>up in Michigan, every once in a while, yeah, you'd

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:33.919
<v Speaker 3>see like a roadkill or something, and speaking from mixer your.

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Kid, you go over look at the roadkill. Yeah, it's

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 2>like covered in maggot.

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 1>You put a stick and you're like, hey, yeah, i'm learning,

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm learning. Yeah, So maggot infested wounds, while disgusting, is

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily a horrible problem. In fact, maggots can actually

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>help with wound healings sometimes, not that I recommend letting

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>your wound get to the point where it's they eat

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>maggots without dead flush, if they just eat the dead flush.

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>And in fact, there are like medical grade maggots that

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:10.919
<v Speaker 1>are like sterile that on occasion, very rarely that it's

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>not the typical use of them, but if you have

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>some necrotic tissue problems where it's hard to hard to

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>it's called debriding the the necrotic tissue. So it's like

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 1>when there's dead tissue and uh, you want to like

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>get rid of the dead tissue so it doesn't become infected.

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>And so they can actually use medical maggots to to

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>get rid of that dead tissue. So so uh, Magots

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 1>in general, while disgusting, are not really that dangerous actually,

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 1>but screw worms will eat healthy tissue and that's very

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 1>very bad. So uh. Screw worms will inside their host,

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>which is typically not humans. Humans are not their primary target.

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 1>It's usually other mammals. It can even be smaller mammals.

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>The if it's a small enough mammal like something like

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>a rodent or like a baby livestock or something, they

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>can even feed on the live tissue of their host

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>until their host dies.

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Whoa.

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:18.919
<v Speaker 1>And very rarely humans can die of screw worm infections.

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Usually that's it's because of not because they've like eaten

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>away at too much tissue, but it's because of getting

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 1>an infection and the result from that. Before you panic,

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>The US eradicated screw worms in nineteen eighty two, So

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 1>screw worms are endemic to the Americas, so mostly like

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>in sort of the southern areas of the US and

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:51.880
<v Speaker 1>in South America. Again, so in nineteen eighty two, the

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>US eradicated screw worms. They actually use something called the

0:36:55.760 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 1>sterile insect technique where sterile males so males that can't reproduce,

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 1>are released to flood the dating pool. Yes, oh wow,

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and they steal mates from fertile males. So it's basically

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>like you release all these infertile males and then they

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 1>compete with fertile males, and so some of these females

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>will mate with the sterile males and then blow their

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>chance to have offspring, and then the next generation there's

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>less of them, and then you repeat this over and

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 1>over again until you can like basically decimate a population.

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 1>There was actually an outbreak of screworms in Florida in

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, So just because we got rid of them

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>for the most part doesn't mean that they don't sometimes

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 1>come back. I think that it was a pretty pretty

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>good good job for eradicating Yeah. Yeah, which, you know,

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:55.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know enough about the sort of you know,

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:58.440
<v Speaker 1>food pyramid of screworms to know like what effect that

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>would have or had on the environment. So it's like

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>it's one of these things where it's like you balance

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 1>like the human need.

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Of these right over the nature you know, creating worms

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 3>that can you know, burrow into.

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it was like a big problem with livestock too,

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>not just like humans so big, big problem with like

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 1>our food chain. But on the other hand, it's it's

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 1>sort of like I wouldn't say I don't think that

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:28.399
<v Speaker 1>these insects should go extinct, because I think that would

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 1>represent a big problem. But on the other hand, I

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 1>don't think they ever will. So it's kind of like

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>with It's kind of like with mosquitoes, when we control

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:42.280
<v Speaker 1>mosquito populations, it's like, well, mosquitoes are actually very important

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 1>for UH to sustain a lot of species that eat

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 1>them as food. But I also don't think we're ever

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna They're never gonna go extinct. But but it's important

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 1>to be careful because this like sterile insect technique is

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 1>very powerful.

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.359
<v Speaker 2>Right, we definitely don't want to overheat.

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's only use it on a species that you know, Yeah,

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 3>yeah exactly.

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't asking for it, Yeah no.

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>And so Guatemala, Belize, and El Savador also eradicated their

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>screwworm population. Mexico, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, and Jamaica are

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>still fighting to eliminate their populations. So it's not as

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 1>much of a problem as it used to be in

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 1>the past, but that doesn't mean there's zero chance of

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:27.800
<v Speaker 1>having an issue with them. There's actually what's really interesting

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:31.320
<v Speaker 1>is there was a nineteen seventy seven short story called

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>The Screwfly Solution by Alice Sheldon. It was a sci

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:41.839
<v Speaker 1>fi short story that described a horrific epidemic of men

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>murdering women, and men starting these cults that were like

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 1>these religious cults saying like women are evil and would

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 1>murder them for these religious reasons, whereas other men just

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 1>like would do it randomly, and some men who were

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:01.280
<v Speaker 1>like good people like isolated themselves to try to prevent

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>themselves from murdering women. But eventually, like, only a few

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>women are left surviving on Earth. Those major spoilers for

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 1>the short story if you want to just read it

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>instead of listening to me describe it. One of the

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 1>women discovers that the cause of this murder epidemic is

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 1>that an alien species is using a version of the

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>sterile insect technique on humans. So an alien species is

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 1>causing men's sex drives to turn into murderous impulses because

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the aliens want to eradicate humans so they can live

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 1>on Earth instead.

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 2>So oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I'm not against it.

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 1>God, wait a minute, how many eyes do you have, Maggie, or.

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 2>How many normal landing for.

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:05.720
<v Speaker 1>It's It was also used in another's inspiration for another story.

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 1>In Carmen Mola's twenty eighteen detective novel Nova, Gitana describes

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>the screwworm being used as a very slow murder weapon

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:19.760
<v Speaker 1>by the murderer inserting eggs into a victim's body.

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like a fun like you know, it's a

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 2>fun villain.

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, weapon, Yeah yeah, No. I love it's interesting

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.839
<v Speaker 1>because I think that they have been a great inspiration

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>for for some some fun, fun stories, fun light hearted stories,

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, a little little light romp about aliens killing

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>off humans and and you know, flesh eating larva being

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>used as a murder weapon. Real fun stuff. Yeah, it

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:55.879
<v Speaker 1>checks out, It all checks out. Well. When we get back,

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>we're actually going to talk about something a little less gruesome.

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Simply a fish that supposedly swims up your urethra.

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 2>That'sidy stuff.

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and eats penises. It's totally fine.

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Just you know what, I don't happen, so this is Yeah,

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Worried at all. So, Maggie, I think a lot of

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>people have heard of the Kanduru penis fish. Uh. It

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:36.400
<v Speaker 1>is a fish that allegedly will swim up your peace

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 1>stream and go inside of your peahole. Uh. I think

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:44.880
<v Speaker 1>it's typically the idea is that it goes inside a penis.

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 1>So if you have a penis and you go to

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 1>a river in the Amazon where these fish live, allegedly,

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the story goes, you pee, You've got a nice I guess,

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>a nice strong stream of urine. Yeah.

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 2>I say it's warm, so presumably that's part of it.

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 1>But you must it's gotta be like a steady stream.

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I guess. It can't be like drunk peeing right where

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 1>you just spread. Yeah, and then this little fish, apparently,

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 1>according to legend, will swim up this pea stream, go

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 1>right inside your pea hole. Maybe you don't even notice it,

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess, and then grow inside there and either eat

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>your penis or just hang out in there. That part's unclear.

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 1>This was made popular by an episode of Grey's Anatomy

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 1>noted very accurate medical show.

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Very accurate. I actually only watched that show to diagnose. Yeah,

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.360
<v Speaker 2>not even my friends to me yet.

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm basically like a doctor now, and I think you

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 1>have a rare case of necrotizing fasciitis. It's like I

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 1>have a headache. Yeah, I think you should go to

0:43:57.440 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the hospital.

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Also, there's any hot doctors just hanging out.

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is kind of. It does give you the

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>sense that like every doctor is gonna be super super hot,

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 1>where it's like not to say doctors aren't hot. Most

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 1>doctors are just your regular you know, like all right, well,

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 1>let's take a look at you, you know, and now

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:22.879
<v Speaker 1>hand me the four steps. Wow, it's getting hot in here.

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to unbutton my lab coat.

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 3>Well I take out the fish that's in your penis.

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:35.719
<v Speaker 1>So a little background, A man comes in with like

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>he's unable to urinate. He's got some swelling and some

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 1>pain and the whole you know, sort of penis area.

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>And the doctors are scratching their heads like what's going on?

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 1>And so they had they could they ruled out some

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 1>other common urinary problems, and so they took an X

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:56.719
<v Speaker 1>ray and they're trying to make sense of this X ray.

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>And here here it is. Here is there very realistic

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>doctor discussion.

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 2>The penis fish.

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, so let me wind it back a little longer.

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Amazing peanuts fish.

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm gonna wind it back just a little further.

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Looks like some kind of foreign object. Ouch.

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 2>That almost looks like a skeleton. It's skeleton, like, definitely

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 2>skeleton those barbs.

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 1>No, it can't be.

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 2>It could be. It looks like a teeny tiny catfish.

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:43.320
<v Speaker 2>See there, those of spines. This is a kangaroo fish.

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 2>The penis fish. This guy has the penis fish in

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 2>his in his.

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 1>The penis fish. This guy has the pus fish. It

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 1>is pis h he's got the penis fish. Yeah, beauty

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the music as well, record scratch. I bet you're wondering

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:18.680
<v Speaker 1>how I got here.

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 2>That's me.

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:24.800
<v Speaker 1>She's zooming on the extra of the fish. It's like,

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:28.759
<v Speaker 1>you see that, that's me. I'm the kangaroo. I wonder

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 1>how I got here? Well it all started when God. Yeah,

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's this is this real? Uh? It's this is

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 1>a real fish. What's going on? What are these fake

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>doctors talking about? Well, so the kangaroo is a very

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>real fish, but the rumors of its affinity for the

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 1>human penis may be slightly overstated, or maybe greatly overstated.

0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a bit of a puzzle. So the kangaroo is

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 1>a small then catfish found in freshwater rivers of the Amazon.

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>It's also called a toothpickfish because they're so slender. So

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 1>they can grow up as adults to be up to

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 1>seven inches or two point five centimeters long, but younger

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.719
<v Speaker 1>ones can be very small and thin, so maybe just

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 1>a bit thicker than a toothpick. So the idea is

0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that while they're little, they could like get up inside

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:31.839
<v Speaker 1>of your urethra if you're constantly terreen. Yeah, if you well,

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about that in a line. Okay, So what

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:39.480
<v Speaker 1>do we absolutely know about kangaroos. They are bloodsuckers. They

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 1>will enter the gill cavities of fish and suck on

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the fish's blood. So to anchor themselves, they will actually

0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 1>erect spines that they have on their own gills to

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:52.680
<v Speaker 1>stick inside the gills of their victims so they can

0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 1>go in there and suck on blood. And it's actually

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of weird because they can sort of like a leech,

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>like it becomes sort of engorged with blood. Start off

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 1>really thin, and then they get like this full belly

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>of blood. It's pretty weird, but you know, onto the

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 1>legend it's that they will swim up your I guess,

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>very healthy peace stream and into your urethra if you

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:20.719
<v Speaker 1>have a penis. Now, this legend has been around for centuries.

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 1>In the nineteen or in the eighteen hundreds, biologist CFP.

0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Von Martius, who was, I guess, a German biologist studying

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:34.800
<v Speaker 1>stuff in the Amazon, he was told about a fish

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that was attracted to the smell of urine and may

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 1>swim up your peehole. Now, the problem with this legend

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 1>is that there's no evidence that kangaroos are attracted at

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 1>all to urine, and they seem to hunt by sight,

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:52.239
<v Speaker 1>not by smell, so that doesn't really check out. Yeah.

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:57.760
<v Speaker 1>In eighteen fifty five, another biologist was regaled with tales

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:01.320
<v Speaker 1>of a fish that would swim up pea stream. But

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:04.759
<v Speaker 1>the explanation of the fish being able to traverse the

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 1>stream of urine actually defies the laws of physics. That's

0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 1>not possible.

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 2>That's not possible.

0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 1>It would need a type of propulsion. The fluid dynamics

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 1>of it don't make sense. Yeah, that no note of sense.

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:25.960
<v Speaker 1>It's this idea that like a salmon, could you know,

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 1>like like salmon's who like jump up a waterfall? But

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:30.919
<v Speaker 1>somehow you could do that, like in a stream of pea,

0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and it would just like swim up. It actually impossible

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:40.480
<v Speaker 1>from a fluid dynamic and fish physics perspective. It's not

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:43.720
<v Speaker 1>that maybe this aspect of the legend comes from fish

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:47.400
<v Speaker 1>gathering at the site where the pea enters the water,

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 1>because like if you're peeing in the water, it creates

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:54.239
<v Speaker 1>this little disturbance on the surface of the water and

0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:56.800
<v Speaker 1>fish may swim up to it. Not because they like

0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:59.440
<v Speaker 1>the smell of pea like their little freaks, or that

0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:02.319
<v Speaker 1>they want to swim up your peace stream magically using

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:06.439
<v Speaker 1>their magic fluid dynamic stuff. It's actually just because any

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of small disturbance on the surface of the water

0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:12.320
<v Speaker 1>may attract some fish because they're like, oh, you know,

0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 1>is this like a fly or something that got stuck

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 1>on the surface of the water. What is it? They're curious.

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:20.280
<v Speaker 1>They think maybe it's food, Maybe it's something of interest

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:26.320
<v Speaker 1>to them. Could a kangaroo ever swim inside of your urethra?

0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it could do it by traveling up

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a peace stream if you're like in the water, could

0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:40.719
<v Speaker 1>it potentially get inside like a penis's peahole? Maybe, but

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:44.360
<v Speaker 1>it's not certain whether we really have any documented evidence

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 1>of this. We're going to talk about the only case

0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 1>that maybe the evidence of that in a little bit.

0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:54.320
<v Speaker 1>But one thing we do know is that despite this

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:57.759
<v Speaker 1>being sort of pitched as something only people with penises

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:00.440
<v Speaker 1>have to worry about, if you've got of age, you're

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 1>actually much more likely to have to tingle with the canda.

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:07.120
<v Speaker 1>It's not that it's gonna go up your urethra, because

0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, female anatomy, the vagina is not the urethra.

0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 1>The urethra is separated from the vagina. The entrance of

0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the vagina just goes up into the vaginal cavity and

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:23.400
<v Speaker 1>then there's the cervix that blocks that from the uterus.

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:27.399
<v Speaker 1>So there are a few documented cases in the late

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:33.440
<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundreds of the kangaroo entering the vagina, but it

0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 1>was easily extracted, didn't really harm the person at all,

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:41.400
<v Speaker 1>And that's a bit easier to accomplish than going up

0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:43.360
<v Speaker 1>a narrow urethra.

0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 2>There's a little more loom, you know, right exactly, yeah.

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Little mirror. And again this was probably a mistake. The

0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:56.320
<v Speaker 1>kangaroo was thinking that it was going in the gills

0:51:56.560 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 1>of a fish, that it normally preys on. But oops,

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:02.640
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, a vagina.

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Yep, oops, yeah, dang it.

0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen ninety seven, the only documented case of

0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:16.840
<v Speaker 1>a kangaroo entering a penis occurred in Brazil. The twenty

0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 1>three year old man claimed a kangaroo jumped from the

0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:23.960
<v Speaker 1>river into his penis as he was urinating. This incident

0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:28.000
<v Speaker 1>is contentious for a number of reasons, which were thoroughly

0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:33.880
<v Speaker 1>examined by American marine biologist Steven Spotty, who investigated and

0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 1>wrote a book in two thousand and two called Kandaroo

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Life and Legend of the Bloodsucking Catfishes. So he looked

0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 1>at this story and examined some of the problems with

0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:50.120
<v Speaker 1>how the incident was presented. He didn't say like, oh,

0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:53.480
<v Speaker 1>this is a total lie or anything. He just these things,

0:52:53.880 --> 0:52:57.320
<v Speaker 1>these aspects of the story don't quite make sense. So

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 1>either there's some mistakes in like how this this uh

0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 1>was recorded, or some misunderstandings, or maybe some aspects of

0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 1>it were made up. You know, people have been known

0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:13.520
<v Speaker 1>to lie about things.

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:17.840
<v Speaker 2>On to be human is to err yeah, describing what

0:53:18.040 --> 0:53:19.880
<v Speaker 2>came up, to be humanist.

0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:22.319
<v Speaker 1>To yes, to be humanists, to err on what went

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:27.960
<v Speaker 1>up your penis hole. So the victim claimed that the

0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:31.480
<v Speaker 1>kangaroo leapt out of the water via his peace stream

0:53:31.560 --> 0:53:35.800
<v Speaker 1>into his urethra. So this is the typical story in

0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:39.440
<v Speaker 1>the folk tale. But again, like we described earlier, this

0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:42.799
<v Speaker 1>version has been thoroughly disproved.

0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Just by p physics.

0:53:44.200 --> 0:53:49.320
<v Speaker 1>It can't really happen. The more likely way of this

0:53:49.440 --> 0:53:52.279
<v Speaker 1>happening would be if you are waist deep in your

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:56.440
<v Speaker 1>your penis is actually in the water, then perhaps like

0:53:56.560 --> 0:53:59.200
<v Speaker 1>it could go up inside. It would have to be

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 1>very small a juvenile. But you know, maybe, but this

0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:09.319
<v Speaker 1>isn't what he described. So either he was just mistakenly

0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:12.319
<v Speaker 1>thought that's when it went up, like maybe it got

0:54:12.400 --> 0:54:14.879
<v Speaker 1>in earlier and he didn't realize it got in when

0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 1>he was like submerged, and he just assumed this is

0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:20.720
<v Speaker 1>how it happened, or he was like not telling the truth.

0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and just say,

0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 1>like he this is what he figured happened, but it's

0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:29.280
<v Speaker 1>that's not what really happened. Like it must have happened

0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 1>when it like went up when he was like submerged

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:36.120
<v Speaker 1>in water. So not necessarily lying, but there's no way

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:38.759
<v Speaker 1>for it to actually go into the peace stream, so

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:41.920
<v Speaker 1>he would be mistaken about that, right. Another weird thing

0:54:42.000 --> 0:54:45.799
<v Speaker 1>is that the fish specimen from the alleged incident was preserved,

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:50.120
<v Speaker 1>but its head was too big to fit inside a urethra.

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:56.640
<v Speaker 1>So the timeline is off because he was saying he

0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:59.680
<v Speaker 1>had this happen right after, like, like, he went to

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the doctor pretty quickly after this incident, so in order

0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:06.960
<v Speaker 1>for the fish to get inside it would require way

0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:12.239
<v Speaker 1>more force than the fish would be capable of doing. Again, like,

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the only way for this to happen without without it

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:18.879
<v Speaker 1>just being completely made up, would be this person mistakenly

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:21.759
<v Speaker 1>thought this was when he was infected with it, but when,

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:26.000
<v Speaker 1>in fact, a lot earlier, a small like a baby

0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:29.120
<v Speaker 1>one went up in and then like grew inside of

0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:34.919
<v Speaker 1>him somehow worse worse, which again is just conjecture because

0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that's possible, right, But I'm just again,

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying, I'm trying to present the version of events

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:43.719
<v Speaker 1>in which like, it's not just like a big lie,

0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:49.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just a misunderstanding, which often happens when it comes

0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to you know, when a penis or a fish goes

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:56.760
<v Speaker 1>in your penis. Yeah, the doctor who documented the case

0:55:56.880 --> 0:56:00.840
<v Speaker 1>claimed that the kangaroo is attracted to urine, which again,

0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:03.600
<v Speaker 1>that's a myth that has long been debunked. So already

0:56:03.680 --> 0:56:06.920
<v Speaker 1>this doctor has made a mistake in you know, his

0:56:07.080 --> 0:56:11.279
<v Speaker 1>own understanding of the situation. The same doctor claimed that

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:14.759
<v Speaker 1>the kangaroo had chewed its way into the victims scrotum,

0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:17.800
<v Speaker 1>but a kangaroo does not have the jaw wars to

0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:20.120
<v Speaker 1>do such a thing. So again there's a couple of

0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:23.759
<v Speaker 1>fishy things. No pun intended with what the doctor is

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:28.279
<v Speaker 1>claiming here, So uh, doctor Penish fish again. Oh, I

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:30.920
<v Speaker 1>forgot to mention the doctor and the Grayson Out of

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Me episode that the urologist who is examining this was

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:35.400
<v Speaker 1>called doctor Fish or.

0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm yo, no, wow, that's pretty awesome. Actually, yeah, and.

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:46.879
<v Speaker 1>Your name is Mayfish. So obviously you have to become

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:49.719
<v Speaker 1>a urologist and specialize in the kangaroo fish because that's

0:56:49.719 --> 0:56:50.160
<v Speaker 1>how it works.

0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:53.360
<v Speaker 2>That's how it works. And actually it's pretty excited to

0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:54.879
<v Speaker 2>find my calling.

0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Right and now this video essay, you have a great

0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:01.359
<v Speaker 1>calling on YouTube, But like, was that really your true

0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:03.280
<v Speaker 1>calling or was it penis?

0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:05.920
<v Speaker 2>It was all just set up for me to discover this.

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that like, absolutely a penis fish.

0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:16.600
<v Speaker 2>He's got a pus fish. His penissh penis fantastic.

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:22.640
<v Speaker 1>In this like quote unquote real life incident, the doctor

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:26.280
<v Speaker 1>again made another spurious claim, saying that he had to

0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 1>clip the fish's spines to extract it. But all of

0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:36.280
<v Speaker 1>those spines were intact on the preserved specimens, so that's

0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:41.200
<v Speaker 1>not lining up either. So there was a sistoscopy video.

0:57:41.280 --> 0:57:44.000
<v Speaker 1>So a sistoscope is a small camera in light that

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:48.320
<v Speaker 1>goes into tight body spaces for surgeries or exams, and

0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:51.120
<v Speaker 1>there is a video of it. But in this video,

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:54.840
<v Speaker 1>it shows the fish carcass being pulled out by forceps,

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:58.520
<v Speaker 1>which the author of this book contends would be impossible

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:02.959
<v Speaker 1>given the deserve specimens spikes being intact, because they would

0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:06.560
<v Speaker 1>like kind of snag on something. So maybe the specimen

0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:11.000
<v Speaker 1>is not the actual one or something something is going on,

0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:14.320
<v Speaker 1>But this video does exist, So it's like, well, what

0:58:14.640 --> 0:58:17.720
<v Speaker 1>what is like did they like fake this video to

0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:21.080
<v Speaker 1>go along with all this stuff or are there only

0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:23.640
<v Speaker 1>certain aspects of the story that are that are not

0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 1>quite being told accurately. So I don't know if this

0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:32.439
<v Speaker 1>is conclusively disproving the Candoro story, because I'm not really

0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:35.760
<v Speaker 1>sure why both the doctor and patient would make everything up,

0:58:36.480 --> 0:58:39.120
<v Speaker 1>like just for attention or something, and they'd have to

0:58:39.200 --> 0:58:42.600
<v Speaker 1>be working together to make it all up. So I'm

0:58:42.640 --> 0:58:45.600
<v Speaker 1>not sure it's like a hundred percent hoax. It could be,

0:58:46.440 --> 0:58:51.640
<v Speaker 1>but my my guess would be it's like it's only

0:58:51.800 --> 0:58:56.080
<v Speaker 1>partially true and then there's you know, some exaggeration going on.

0:58:57.360 --> 0:59:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I think this may be, I mean, it could. It

0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:02.960
<v Speaker 1>could be a hoax though, because again, this is a

0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:06.200
<v Speaker 1>this is a folk tale that has long been you know,

0:59:06.320 --> 0:59:10.360
<v Speaker 1>so it's got this sort of popularity. But sometimes folk

0:59:10.520 --> 0:59:13.000
<v Speaker 1>tales have a grain of truth in it, so there

0:59:13.040 --> 0:59:16.280
<v Speaker 1>could be, uh, you know, this could have an origin

0:59:16.440 --> 0:59:19.480
<v Speaker 1>not just in complete like like some so you could

0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:22.520
<v Speaker 1>have some truth to it. Right, So if the kangaroo

0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:25.760
<v Speaker 1>goes up, you know, if you're like submerged in the

0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:27.920
<v Speaker 1>water and then it enters that way and then it's

0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:29.880
<v Speaker 1>like it goes in when it's really small and then

0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:32.560
<v Speaker 1>it just gets stuck and then gets bigger or something

0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:36.440
<v Speaker 1>later on. Maybe that's what happens, and then these other

0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 1>aspects of the myth are are made up just because

0:59:39.640 --> 0:59:43.160
<v Speaker 1>that's people assume this is what happens that you like uh,

0:59:43.480 --> 0:59:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that that it swims up your peace stream or something.

0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:48.400
<v Speaker 1>But I don't I don't know, because like I don't

0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:51.960
<v Speaker 1>even like how would if something is like growing inside,

0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:54.240
<v Speaker 1>like a little fish is growing inside, Like it seems

0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:58.280
<v Speaker 1>like that was still obstruct you're, uh, you're urinary flow,

0:59:58.400 --> 1:00:01.400
<v Speaker 1>so it seems like you'd have problems for while. I

1:00:01.600 --> 1:00:07.200
<v Speaker 1>just don't know. I I'm very skeptical, though, I'm skeptical, right, like.

1:00:07.440 --> 1:00:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Freaking animal freak accidents happened, but yeah, this seems like

1:00:11.680 --> 1:00:14.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, yeah, yeah, it'd be hard if you fish.

1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's certainly it's not a fish that hunts

1:00:19.320 --> 1:00:22.520
<v Speaker 1>down human penises and goes inside to hit the penis.

1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:25.320
<v Speaker 1>That part is absolutely not true. If it does happen,

1:00:25.400 --> 1:00:29.320
<v Speaker 1>it's an accident. But there is such a thing as

1:00:29.720 --> 1:00:35.840
<v Speaker 1>parasitic castration. It's just not something that happens to humans.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank god.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank goodness. That revealed terrible.

1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:46.200
<v Speaker 1>If you're a crab or another type of animal, this

1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:49.280
<v Speaker 1>may happen. Uh, and we'll probably even like we've talked

1:00:49.280 --> 1:00:53.680
<v Speaker 1>about on the show Carsonization, like the universe trends towards crabs.

1:00:53.840 --> 1:00:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe one day will evolve into crabs and we're going

1:00:56.400 --> 1:01:00.920
<v Speaker 1>to have to worry about the crab going at eating parasite,

1:01:01.280 --> 1:01:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the Seculina carcini. So the Seculina carsony is a parasitic barnacle.

1:01:07.880 --> 1:01:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I know, you wouldn't think like barnacles could be parasites.

1:01:10.560 --> 1:01:13.280
<v Speaker 1>They seem like harmless little things that like sit on

1:01:13.360 --> 1:01:17.680
<v Speaker 1>a whale and stuff. But there are types of barnacles

1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:21.480
<v Speaker 1>because like the barnacle itself, it's not always just this

1:01:21.720 --> 1:01:24.200
<v Speaker 1>like sort of hard shell that it forms. It is

1:01:24.400 --> 1:01:27.200
<v Speaker 1>like a free swimming, little like sort of worm like thing.

1:01:28.400 --> 1:01:33.840
<v Speaker 1>And so this one, the Seculina carcini, can take over

1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:40.000
<v Speaker 1>a crabs intestines, stomach, and nervous system near its underbelly

1:01:40.640 --> 1:01:45.280
<v Speaker 1>and feed on nutrients from the crab. And what this

1:01:45.520 --> 1:01:49.720
<v Speaker 1>does is, even though it doesn't like only specifically eat

1:01:49.800 --> 1:01:53.720
<v Speaker 1>its gonads, by depriving like siphoning off all these nutrients,

1:01:53.800 --> 1:01:59.440
<v Speaker 1>the gonads fail to fully develop inside of these poor crabs.

1:01:59.840 --> 1:02:02.640
<v Speaker 1>So males will actually grow up to look a bit

1:02:02.840 --> 1:02:06.760
<v Speaker 1>more like females because they don't have the fe male

1:02:06.880 --> 1:02:10.600
<v Speaker 1>hormones that would be produced in their their gonouts, and

1:02:11.080 --> 1:02:15.480
<v Speaker 1>females will actually like they can also be infected. They

1:02:15.640 --> 1:02:18.880
<v Speaker 1>just end up being a little more narrow than other

1:02:19.000 --> 1:02:23.600
<v Speaker 1>females because of the nutrient depletion. But it's really interesting

1:02:23.640 --> 1:02:26.840
<v Speaker 1>when they infect males because it changes their behavior in

1:02:26.880 --> 1:02:27.840
<v Speaker 1>a very strange way.

1:02:28.000 --> 1:02:29.520
<v Speaker 2>So, oh, that's wild.

1:02:30.200 --> 1:02:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Somehow this parasitic barnacle causes the crab to help raise

1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the brood of these little parasitic barnacles, grooming them like

1:02:39.960 --> 1:02:42.960
<v Speaker 1>it's their own brood of eggs, which is strange because

1:02:43.000 --> 1:02:46.400
<v Speaker 1>they're a male and they would not naturally ever have eggs,

1:02:46.920 --> 1:02:51.480
<v Speaker 1>so clearly there's some kind of like male like these

1:02:51.560 --> 1:02:55.560
<v Speaker 1>male crabs still have the capacity to have these like

1:02:56.000 --> 1:02:58.240
<v Speaker 1>female crab instincts. It's very interesting.

1:02:58.520 --> 1:02:58.720
<v Speaker 2>WHOA.

1:02:59.720 --> 1:03:02.280
<v Speaker 1>So they'll groom them like they're their own brood sack

1:03:02.400 --> 1:03:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and then release them like like because crabs do this

1:03:06.080 --> 1:03:08.640
<v Speaker 1>thing when they're ready to release eggs where they kind

1:03:08.680 --> 1:03:11.200
<v Speaker 1>of like go up in the waves and kind of

1:03:11.240 --> 1:03:14.080
<v Speaker 1>like bob and shake and shimmy to get the eggs

1:03:14.200 --> 1:03:16.640
<v Speaker 1>off of their abdomen and they kind of like usher

1:03:16.760 --> 1:03:19.920
<v Speaker 1>them on for their own eggs. But they do this

1:03:20.600 --> 1:03:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the males will do this for the parasitic barnacle all same,

1:03:24.800 --> 1:03:27.840
<v Speaker 1>which is it's like very strange, very strange.

1:03:27.920 --> 1:03:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Hormones are fascinating and wild.

1:03:31.720 --> 1:03:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it is an kind of heartwarmingly messed up situation.

1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is. It is.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like kind of cute in a way, like, well,

1:03:43.800 --> 1:03:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm a mommy, you know, and then they

1:03:46.240 --> 1:03:46.960
<v Speaker 1>can do their thing.

1:03:47.600 --> 1:03:48.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm a zombie mommy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, zombie mommies. Yep. Very very strange, very interesting. But

1:03:55.360 --> 1:03:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll probably talk about more cases of parasitic castration on

1:03:59.640 --> 1:04:02.480
<v Speaker 1>another episode, but I think I think we only need

1:04:02.560 --> 1:04:05.680
<v Speaker 1>to do one example of the press that is.

1:04:06.000 --> 1:04:09.000
<v Speaker 3>That that's probably the wildest animal fact I've heard in

1:04:09.080 --> 1:04:10.040
<v Speaker 3>a wild Yeah.

1:04:10.320 --> 1:04:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so good. Sites are. They're fascinating because when

1:04:16.000 --> 1:04:19.600
<v Speaker 1>they modify their host's behavior in such a strange way.

1:04:19.640 --> 1:04:23.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like with screwflies, like they are a parasite, but

1:04:23.160 --> 1:04:26.880
<v Speaker 1>they they're just gross and bad and they hurt you. Yeah,

1:04:28.360 --> 1:04:30.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, I get it. But when you have

1:04:30.560 --> 1:04:34.480
<v Speaker 1>these very devious parasites, they are like you're the mom now,

1:04:34.680 --> 1:04:41.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's like I'm a mom parasites all right. Yeah. Yeah,

1:04:41.320 --> 1:04:46.439
<v Speaker 1>it's so strange, so so very strange and interesting. But yeah,

1:04:46.520 --> 1:04:49.800
<v Speaker 1>we don't really need to fear the kangaroo. We don't

1:04:49.800 --> 1:04:53.240
<v Speaker 1>even need to fear these parasitic barnacles until the inevitable

1:04:53.320 --> 1:04:54.840
<v Speaker 1>day that we evolve into crabs.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean I'm looking forward to that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, scuttling, I feel like scuttling is

1:05:02.160 --> 1:05:03.880
<v Speaker 1>underrated and I want to do more of it.

1:05:04.240 --> 1:05:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I want to scuttle. I want to scuttle about.

1:05:06.840 --> 1:05:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Suttling is fun? You ever scuttled? Ever got kind of

1:05:11.280 --> 1:05:11.880
<v Speaker 1>good scuttling?

1:05:12.360 --> 1:05:15.080
<v Speaker 3>I skip, which I guess is like the human equivalent

1:05:15.160 --> 1:05:18.640
<v Speaker 3>to a scuttle. I've also rolling down hills, which also

1:05:18.720 --> 1:05:21.760
<v Speaker 3>feels kind of like yeah, yeah, and I scuttle.

1:05:22.040 --> 1:05:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You know, when I was actually a kid, I

1:05:26.120 --> 1:05:28.520
<v Speaker 1>learned about this is kind of a tangent, but like

1:05:28.640 --> 1:05:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I learned about how lemurs because they kind of like

1:05:31.120 --> 1:05:33.880
<v Speaker 1>hop side to side. They do this like sash shat

1:05:34.120 --> 1:05:35.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, and it looked really fun, so I

1:05:36.040 --> 1:05:38.000
<v Speaker 1>started doing it, and then I found it's actually a

1:05:38.120 --> 1:05:40.320
<v Speaker 1>really easy way to get around. So, you know, do

1:05:40.440 --> 1:05:44.320
<v Speaker 1>this little lemur sacheting through the house. And my parents

1:05:44.400 --> 1:05:46.200
<v Speaker 1>just thought I was just like dancing around. Was like, no,

1:05:46.280 --> 1:05:48.560
<v Speaker 1>this is actually very efficient method of like emotions.

1:05:48.920 --> 1:05:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm walking better than other humans are onto something.

1:05:51.680 --> 1:05:58.440
<v Speaker 1>You guys. Yeah, yeah, so you know, scuttling it's pretty

1:05:58.480 --> 1:06:00.440
<v Speaker 1>good as long as you don't get in fected by

1:06:00.640 --> 1:06:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a barnacle parasite that's gonna gotta make your nads kind

1:06:05.000 --> 1:06:05.520
<v Speaker 1>of not work.

1:06:07.280 --> 1:06:08.040
<v Speaker 2>That's the downside.

1:06:08.240 --> 1:06:10.920
<v Speaker 1>That's a little bit of a downside. Yeah. Yeah, Well,

1:06:11.320 --> 1:06:14.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think we've busted some some folk tales

1:06:14.920 --> 1:06:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and unbusted some not yet folk tales. But you know

1:06:20.000 --> 1:06:22.080
<v Speaker 1>that probably should be some you know what I mean.

1:06:22.880 --> 1:06:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you said, like this, you know, I feel

1:06:25.400 --> 1:06:27.320
<v Speaker 2>like you went through a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 3>That I had heard that I should be afraid of.

1:06:30.600 --> 1:06:33.440
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I think we have all correctly aligned ourselves

1:06:34.640 --> 1:06:38.000
<v Speaker 3>to be afraid of, uh those little zombie.

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<v Speaker 1>Craw Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like it's a it's

1:06:43.400 --> 1:06:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I like to reassure and then unassure, you know what

1:06:47.040 --> 1:06:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, don't get too comfortable. Now that I've reassured

1:06:50.160 --> 1:06:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you this is okay. Now here's here's here's a little spice,

1:06:56.080 --> 1:06:58.920
<v Speaker 1>here's the alternative that, here's the milk, and now here's

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<v Speaker 1>the spice. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for being

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