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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature future production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,

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Speaker 1: and today on the show, we're talking about some scary

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Speaker 1: urban legends about animals and showing you that there's nothing

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Speaker 1: to fear. Well, okay, maybe there is, but it's not

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Speaker 1: what you think. From getting swallowed by a whale to

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Speaker 1: a small fish going where no fish has gone before,

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Speaker 1: we're going to see what you should really be scared of.

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Speaker 1: Discover this more as we answered the asual question, wow,

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Speaker 1: are you telling me that Gray's anatomy might have stretched

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Speaker 1: the truth? Joining me today is someone who puts the

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Speaker 1: legend in urban legends, video essays, and snake lover Maggie

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Speaker 1: may Fish. Hello, Katie, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually really excited for this episode because I'd.

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Speaker 2: Like to be at greatly afraid. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't like to be afraid of things that I

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Speaker 3: don't need to be afraid about, but I like being afraid,

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Speaker 3: so I like to aim it at those responsible in

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Speaker 3: this case animals.

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Speaker 1: Right exactly, Like when I see a bear, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: can I see, like how big your teeth. Let me

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Speaker 1: measure your teeth, Let me measure your class. See if

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Speaker 1: I really should be afraid of you?

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Speaker 2: Okay, are you still cub or?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Are you hadn't?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I see that you've like bitten my arm off.

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Speaker 1: All right, you're right, you met criteria. You've even that

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Speaker 1: I am afraid of you. Yes, indeed. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: I think that there are a lot of urban legends

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Speaker 1: about animals. Some of them are not really the truth,

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Speaker 1: but there is something out there that is just as scary.

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Speaker 1: So which is always funny to me, because I think

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Speaker 1: it makes sense why we have urban legends, because you know,

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Speaker 1: it's fun to be scared or rationalizing our already existing fears.

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Speaker 1: But then when there's something that's real that actually does

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Speaker 1: those things, that doesn't quite make it to be an

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Speaker 1: urban legend, it's like, well, okay, it's right there, you

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Speaker 1: got the truth. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, I don't know if you've seen this story yet,

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Speaker 1: but someone in Cape Cod, a lobster diver, said he

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Speaker 1: was swallowed by a whale.

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Speaker 3: I did see this, and I saw that his fellow

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Speaker 3: fisherman backed him up instaid.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely believe that he was swallowed by a whale. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what do you think, Katie.

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Speaker 1: So he said that he was completely inside the whale

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Speaker 1: and that the whale shook its head a few times

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Speaker 1: before spitting him back out. So I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: call this man a liar, first of all, because he's

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Speaker 1: a lobster diver in Cape Cod, and I don't that's

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Speaker 1: not the demographic I want.

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Speaker 2: Mad at me precisely.

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Speaker 3: You could be the next gate that they put.

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Speaker 2: But also I don't think.

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Speaker 1: He really is lying. I think that, but I think

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Speaker 1: he may have misinterpreted what actually happened to him, or

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Speaker 1: at least maybe someone who was interviewing him put words

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Speaker 1: in his mouth. I don't know, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: he was actually swallowed by the whale. I think he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say the way that he described it.

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Speaker 3: The first image that came to mind is like wine tasting,

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Speaker 3: you know, like like like the whale was curious and.

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Speaker 2: Was like this human.

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Speaker 3: You know, depending on where he's from, it could be

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Speaker 3: very salty, human, could be very sweet, could have some

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Speaker 3: undertoned So it seemed like he was just you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy was like in his fifties, so it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is this is kind of an aged human. It's

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Speaker 1: got a nice bouquet, you know, swished it around his

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Speaker 1: way for a humpback whale to actually swallow you whole.

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Speaker 1: That's just not really gonna happen, at least not an

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Speaker 1: eat little tiny things like krill and small fish. So

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Speaker 3: They would see it as like a floatation device, maybe

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Speaker 1: Right right, right exactly, some kind of strange curiosity to

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Speaker 1: maybe taste but not eat. In fact, they don't really

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Speaker 1: It's like it's got a bunch of brooms in its

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Speaker 1: chew you up and swallow you. It's a total mistake.

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Speaker 1: And their throat just can't accommodate a human. Like typically

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Speaker 1: biggest it can really expand. And so for a human

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you'd have to treat it like a slide, right,

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Speaker 3: you have to like dive into it and like probably

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Speaker 1: And then probably the whale is gonna be highly resistant

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Speaker 2: I'm already in the mouth, but I'm getting the stomach

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Speaker 2: is not gonna be a story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get down. Yeah. So, in fact, there's really only

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Speaker 1: sperm whale who can and have swallowed giant squid, and

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Speaker 1: you're probably never ever going to be swallowed by a

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Speaker 2: So I didn't even think about that. It's a huge os. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not only are they probably not going to pursue

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Speaker 1: also live. The reason you've like when you go whale watching,

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Speaker 1: Actually it's a problem for biologists because we don't know

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Speaker 2: Swallows by way pressure. Yeah, yeah, sinking into their goals.

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Speaker 1: I mean, their lungs and internal organs would turn into

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Speaker 2: You'd be big dead. You'd be big dead, big.

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Speaker 1: Dead hashtag big dead. Yeah. So, I mean, like the

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Speaker 1: So that's why people don't typically get swallowed by sperm whales.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, and I'm thinking about like Pinocchio, that

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, yeah, I don't think a whale's stomach is

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Speaker 1: The problem with that is actually a whale deep diving whales,

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Speaker 1: and lungs are sort of designed to collapse and expand,

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Speaker 1: so so they can withstand that, whereas we we can't.

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Speaker 2: Are frail bodies.

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Speaker 1: Now it just becomes sort of I mean, like the

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Speaker 1: exterior of our body probably won't look that weird. Uh,

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Speaker 1: like maybe our eyes will like blood vessels in our

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Speaker 1: a hor show. Yeah. Yeah, so actually, so do you

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Speaker 3: I feel like maybe I've been told, but I don't

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, Katie, Well, I'm gonna admit that I just

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Speaker 1: learned this, so don't feel don't feel bad about obed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, say it kindly puts you out of your misery, very.

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Speaker 1: Sweet of it, very kind of it. Yeah, well, kindness

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Speaker 1: But it's but when it happens to human it's actually

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Speaker 1: So next time you you feed your cute little.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I don't I don't want people

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't understand. They don't you know, they just sneak.

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Speaker 1: They're just little noodles who like to eat, you know

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Speaker 1: talk about spiders, two of the people's most favorite animals. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: spiders are often really maligned. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: stories about spiders how scary they are. Typically though they're

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Speaker 1: really not out to get you.

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Speaker 3: Right they eat mosquitoes, which I have always seen as uh,

439
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Speaker 3: you know, very positive.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we're typically the ones that are actually out to

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Speaker 1: get spiders. There's this recent story in Perth, Australia. Police

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Speaker 1: were called by a neighbor of someone who heard a

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Speaker 1: man yelling why won't you die and the sounds of

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Speaker 1: a crying toddler. So police rushed to the house and

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Speaker 1: it turned out the man was just trying to kill

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Speaker 1: a large spiders.

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Speaker 3: Oh that is really funny, he apologized to police.

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Speaker 1: He said he had a rachnophobia and was panicking, and

449
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Speaker 1: of course the toddler was crying because daddy was scared

450
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Speaker 1: and there was a giants.

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Speaker 2: There was a giant spider.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I think I think it's somewhat relatable thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't like to kill spiders, but when they are

454
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Speaker 1: really large, like alarmingly large, and I know they're gonna

455
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Speaker 1: startle me, I try to at least get them out

456
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Speaker 1: of the house because they're like, you know, it's like

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Speaker 1: I don't like to be startled by a spider. I

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Speaker 1: don't like to sort of look down and there's like

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Speaker 1: one on my arm.

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Speaker 3: That freaks me out, right, right if you Yeah, if

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Speaker 3: there's one big enough in the house that I notice it,

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Speaker 3: I would like it out of.

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Speaker 2: The house, presumably.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's smaller than a quarter, you can hang out, buddy,

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Speaker 1: it's fine, you know what, let's just chill.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be found at that point.

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Speaker 1: But there is a myth about spiders actually a couple months.

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Speaker 1: One is that like you eat spiders in your sleep,

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Speaker 1: which it's just not going to happen. Spiders don't want

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Speaker 1: to be eaten by you. They don't want to get

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Speaker 1: in there. No, So that's that's there's really not truth

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Speaker 1: to that. The other one is that spiders will lay

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Speaker 1: eggs in your ears or your brain.

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Speaker 3: Very popular scary stories to tell in the dark story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like a spider lays eggs in someone's

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Speaker 1: skin or something. Is that the one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she like thinks she has his it.

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Speaker 1: It's just spiders. Yeah, yeah, So spiders. Fortunately, all the

479
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: spiders out there, they don't want to do that. They

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Speaker 1: don't want to be inside you. That's the last thing

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Speaker 1: they want. Very rarely a spider might crawl in your ear.

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Speaker 1: That is not because they want to lay eggs. They're

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Speaker 1: not gonna lay eggs in your brain. They're not gonna

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Speaker 1: like drill a hole into your skull. They just think

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Speaker 1: your ear is like a little cozy spot. They mistake

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Speaker 1: it for like a little nook or cranny. They don't

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Speaker 1: realize you're alive. If they did, they would freak out.

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Speaker 1: Like it'd be like if you were seeking refuge in

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Speaker 1: a cave and then you realize the cave is like

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Speaker 1: the ear of a gargantuan monster, you would freak out,

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00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: you'd be scared. Yeah, this doesn't happen very often, but

492
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Speaker 1: when a spider crawls into someone's ear, it's a complete mistake.

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Speaker 1: They're not there to lay eggs. And if that ever happens,

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Speaker 1: or if any bug crawls in your ear, do not panic.

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Speaker 1: Don't like try to dig it out with your fingers.

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Speaker 1: Don't go in there with tweezers or like a cotton

497
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: swe because that can either damage your ear or you

498
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: can like scare the insect and it will actually crawl deeper,

499
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Speaker 1: not because it's trying to like get into your brain,

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Speaker 1: because you're scaring it because you're like right, like if

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Speaker 1: you're again. Imagine, you know, go take a trip down

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00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: to imagination station. Imagine you're in a cave. It's like

503
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Speaker 1: it's kind of cold outside, and you find this cozy

504
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: little cave. You go inside, and it's nice and warm.

505
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Speaker 1: In fact, it's like weirdly warm. You're like, oh, this

506
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: is nice and cozy. And then suddenly you like hear

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Speaker 1: this low rumbling and then this giant appendage come in

508
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: to try to like grab you. You're gonna like run

509
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Speaker 1: deeper into the cave and then like the giant monster

510
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: and side is gonna freak out even more. So what

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Speaker 1: you should do is just go to a doctor.

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Speaker 2: What you should do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you think there's like a bug in

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Speaker 1: your ear or something, go to a doctor and they

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00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: will be able to remove it without like shoving anything

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Speaker 1: probably in your ear. Usually I think what doctors do

517
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: is or they might put something in your ear, but

518
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Speaker 1: they're a doctor and they're allowed to do that. So

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00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: usually what they will do is they'll actually flush it

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00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: out with some sailine and the little spider or whatever

521
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: insect will just come out surfing on a wave of sailine.

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Speaker 1: Because that way, that way just like kind of flushes

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00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: it out and then it's it will also like want

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Speaker 1: to get out, like it'll swim to the surface of

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00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: the sline if there's water in there. And it's just

526
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: a much less traumatic way to get a bug out

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00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: of your ear than to go after it with tweezers.

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Speaker 1: But also this is probably never going to happen to you.

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Speaker 1: It's extremely rare. I mean, this is why it's newsworthy,

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Speaker 1: Like it's very very rare bug goods in your ear.

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Speaker 1: So you don't need to be afraid of spiders. They

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00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: don't they don't lay eggs under your skin. They don't

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Speaker 1: lay eggs in your ears. But before you breathe a

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Speaker 1: sigh of relief, okaty, there are insects that will do

535
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Speaker 1: this and one of the one of the creepiest ones

536
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: in my opinion, are screw worms. So you know, this

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Speaker 1: is the part where I warn you this section is

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Speaker 1: gonna get a little gross. You know, if you want

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Speaker 1: to skip ahead, like if you have trip of phobia

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00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: or fear of like insects, like parasites, human you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of parasites, you can join back in at part three.

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Speaker 1: At we're actually in part three, we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about a fish that allegedly swims up people's urethras. So

544
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: if that also sounds too gross, maybe the rest of

545
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: this episode isn't for you, and I'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to skip the screw worm section

547
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: and you want to come back just for the penis

548
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Speaker 1: fish one, you know, join us back in at this

549
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Speaker 1: time stamp take it away, Future Katie, pretty one, all right,

550
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Speaker 1: So for those of you Katie, thanks, thanks to you, Katie,

551
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: and now back to past Katie. So now we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about screw worms and how horrifying they really are.

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Speaker 1: So these are New World screw worm flies which are

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Speaker 1: found throughout the humid areas of the Americas. So the

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00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: adult version looks benign, just like a standard fly. I

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Speaker 1: in the show notes, I have included a picture of

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Speaker 1: the adult in the larva and absolutely no other pictures

558
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Speaker 1: of what happens with screwing.

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Speaker 2: You for that, thank you for If you're.

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Speaker 1: Curious what they look like but you don't want to

561
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: see like body horror stuff, you can look at the

562
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Speaker 1: dock link below and there's no body horror stuff, just

563
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: the fly and just the maggot. If you're curious to

564
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: see what they look like. I recommend against googling if

565
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: you are grossed out by you know, medical pictures and

566
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: body horror stuff, you don't want to see that. Again,

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00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: the adult looks pretty innocuous, just like sadies.

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Speaker 2: Both look very Yeah. Normal, You got a normal larva,

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Speaker 2: a normal fly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And they're called screwworms because the law you can

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Speaker 1: see the larva is kind of like segmented, so it's

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Speaker 1: like kind of I guess screw like in a way.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like tapered and it's got like it

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Speaker 1: looks maybe like it has screw threads or something, but

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Speaker 1: it's not. It's not that alarming looking really, no, not

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Speaker 1: at all.

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Speaker 2: I just all that going around, I'd be like, checks out,

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Speaker 2: that's a book.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, you know, not start to worry about it

580
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: getting inside your body, but you probably should. So. Female

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Speaker 1: screwflies will lay their eggs in the wounds or bodily

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Speaker 1: openings of animals, including on occasion, humans, So the eggs

583
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Speaker 1: only take about twenty four hours to hatch, and the

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Speaker 1: larva will start to feed on the flesh and fluids

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Speaker 1: of their host. So on at least one occasion, they

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Speaker 1: have gotten into a human ear and on multiplesis they

587
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: have gotten inside human skin. Usually like if you have

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Speaker 1: a a open wound or something. Uh, it's the The

589
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Speaker 1: flies don't like bite you and put it inside you,

590
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Speaker 1: but they look for an opening, like a literal opening,

591
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Speaker 1: wait for a literal opening. But this could even be

592
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Speaker 1: something like in newborn animals. Often like the infect livestock

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Speaker 1: and so a newborn calf or something, they go for

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Speaker 1: the the belly button because they're attracted to the smell of.

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Speaker 2: Blood.

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Speaker 1: Yes exactly, so like for they don't they won't typically

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Speaker 1: go for like an adult's belly button because that's healed over.

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Speaker 1: But for a newborn calf, it's like it still smells

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00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: kind of bloody. They go in there and it's it's gross.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to see it. This condition of a

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Speaker 1: larva living inside human tissue is known medically as miasis,

602
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Speaker 1: and it is gross and bad and you don't want

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Speaker 1: it to happen bad And my official medical opinion it's

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Speaker 1: gross and bad.

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Speaker 3: Agree in my official non medical opinion, it's gross and bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, the way that screw worms differ from most

607
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: maggots is that screw worms actually feed on live tissue,

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Speaker 1: not just dead necrotic tissue.

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Speaker 3: So I was gonna say, because like you know, growing

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Speaker 3: up in Michigan, every once in a while, yeah, you'd

611
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Speaker 3: see like a roadkill or something, and speaking from mixer your.

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Speaker 2: Kid, you go over look at the roadkill. Yeah, it's

613
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Speaker 2: like covered in maggot.

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Speaker 1: You put a stick and you're like, hey, yeah, i'm learning,

615
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Speaker 1: I'm learning. Yeah, So maggot infested wounds, while disgusting, is

616
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Speaker 1: not necessarily a horrible problem. In fact, maggots can actually

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Speaker 1: help with wound healings sometimes, not that I recommend letting

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Speaker 1: your wound get to the point where it's they eat

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Speaker 1: maggots without dead flush, if they just eat the dead flush.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, there are like medical grade maggots that

621
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Speaker 1: are like sterile that on occasion, very rarely that it's

622
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Speaker 1: not the typical use of them, but if you have

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Speaker 1: some necrotic tissue problems where it's hard to hard to

624
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: it's called debriding the the necrotic tissue. So it's like

625
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: when there's dead tissue and uh, you want to like

626
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: get rid of the dead tissue so it doesn't become infected.

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Speaker 1: And so they can actually use medical maggots to to

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Speaker 1: get rid of that dead tissue. So so uh, Magots

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Speaker 1: in general, while disgusting, are not really that dangerous actually,

630
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Speaker 1: but screw worms will eat healthy tissue and that's very

631
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Speaker 1: very bad. So uh. Screw worms will inside their host,

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Speaker 1: which is typically not humans. Humans are not their primary target.

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Speaker 1: It's usually other mammals. It can even be smaller mammals.

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Speaker 1: The if it's a small enough mammal like something like

635
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: a rodent or like a baby livestock or something, they

636
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: can even feed on the live tissue of their host

637
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: until their host dies.

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Speaker 2: Whoa.

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Speaker 1: And very rarely humans can die of screw worm infections.

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00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: Usually that's it's because of not because they've like eaten

641
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: away at too much tissue, but it's because of getting

642
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: an infection and the result from that. Before you panic,

643
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Speaker 1: The US eradicated screw worms in nineteen eighty two, So

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00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: screw worms are endemic to the Americas, so mostly like

645
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: in sort of the southern areas of the US and

646
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: in South America. Again, so in nineteen eighty two, the

647
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: US eradicated screw worms. They actually use something called the

648
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Speaker 1: sterile insect technique where sterile males so males that can't reproduce,

649
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: are released to flood the dating pool. Yes, oh wow,

650
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: and they steal mates from fertile males. So it's basically

651
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: like you release all these infertile males and then they

652
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: compete with fertile males, and so some of these females

653
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: will mate with the sterile males and then blow their

654
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: chance to have offspring, and then the next generation there's

655
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: less of them, and then you repeat this over and

656
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: over again until you can like basically decimate a population.

657
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: There was actually an outbreak of screworms in Florida in

658
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, So just because we got rid of them

659
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: for the most part doesn't mean that they don't sometimes

660
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: come back. I think that it was a pretty pretty

661
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: good good job for eradicating Yeah. Yeah, which, you know,

662
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about the sort of you know,

663
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: food pyramid of screworms to know like what effect that

664
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: would have or had on the environment. So it's like

665
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: it's one of these things where it's like you balance

666
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: like the human need.

667
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: Of these right over the nature you know, creating worms

668
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 3: that can you know, burrow into.

669
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was like a big problem with livestock too,

670
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: not just like humans so big, big problem with like

671
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: our food chain. But on the other hand, it's it's

672
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: sort of like I wouldn't say I don't think that

673
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: these insects should go extinct, because I think that would

674
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: represent a big problem. But on the other hand, I

675
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: don't think they ever will. So it's kind of like

676
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: with It's kind of like with mosquitoes, when we control

677
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: mosquito populations, it's like, well, mosquitoes are actually very important

678
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: for UH to sustain a lot of species that eat

679
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: them as food. But I also don't think we're ever

680
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: gonna They're never gonna go extinct. But but it's important

681
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: to be careful because this like sterile insect technique is

682
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: very powerful.

683
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 2: Right, we definitely don't want to overheat.

684
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's only use it on a species that you know, Yeah,

685
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: yeah exactly.

686
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: Wasn't asking for it, Yeah no.

687
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: And so Guatemala, Belize, and El Savador also eradicated their

688
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: screwworm population. Mexico, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, and Jamaica are

689
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: still fighting to eliminate their populations. So it's not as

690
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: much of a problem as it used to be in

691
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: the past, but that doesn't mean there's zero chance of

692
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: having an issue with them. There's actually what's really interesting

693
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: is there was a nineteen seventy seven short story called

694
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: The Screwfly Solution by Alice Sheldon. It was a sci

695
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: fi short story that described a horrific epidemic of men

696
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: murdering women, and men starting these cults that were like

697
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: these religious cults saying like women are evil and would

698
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: murder them for these religious reasons, whereas other men just

699
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: like would do it randomly, and some men who were

700
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: like good people like isolated themselves to try to prevent

701
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: themselves from murdering women. But eventually, like, only a few

702
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: women are left surviving on Earth. Those major spoilers for

703
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: the short story if you want to just read it

704
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: instead of listening to me describe it. One of the

705
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: women discovers that the cause of this murder epidemic is

706
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: that an alien species is using a version of the

707
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: sterile insect technique on humans. So an alien species is

708
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: causing men's sex drives to turn into murderous impulses because

709
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: the aliens want to eradicate humans so they can live

710
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: on Earth instead.

711
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I'm not against it.

712
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: God, wait a minute, how many eyes do you have, Maggie, or.

713
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: How many normal landing for.

714
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: It's It was also used in another's inspiration for another story.

715
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: In Carmen Mola's twenty eighteen detective novel Nova, Gitana describes

716
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: the screwworm being used as a very slow murder weapon

717
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: by the murderer inserting eggs into a victim's body.

718
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a fun like you know, it's a

719
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: fun villain.

720
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, weapon, Yeah yeah, No. I love it's interesting

721
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: because I think that they have been a great inspiration

722
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: for for some some fun, fun stories, fun light hearted stories,

723
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: you know, a little little light romp about aliens killing

724
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: off humans and and you know, flesh eating larva being

725
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: used as a murder weapon. Real fun stuff. Yeah, it

726
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: checks out, It all checks out. Well. When we get back,

727
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: we're actually going to talk about something a little less gruesome.

728
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: Simply a fish that supposedly swims up your urethra.

729
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: That'sidy stuff.

730
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and eats penises. It's totally fine.

731
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: Just you know what, I don't happen, so this is Yeah,

732
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: I'm not.

733
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: Worried at all. So, Maggie, I think a lot of

734
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: people have heard of the Kanduru penis fish. Uh. It

735
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: is a fish that allegedly will swim up your peace

736
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: stream and go inside of your peahole. Uh. I think

737
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: it's typically the idea is that it goes inside a penis.

738
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: So if you have a penis and you go to

739
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: a river in the Amazon where these fish live, allegedly,

740
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: the story goes, you pee, You've got a nice I guess,

741
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: a nice strong stream of urine. Yeah.

742
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: I say it's warm, so presumably that's part of it.

743
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: But you must it's gotta be like a steady stream.

744
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: I guess. It can't be like drunk peeing right where

745
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: you just spread. Yeah, and then this little fish, apparently,

746
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: according to legend, will swim up this pea stream, go

747
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: right inside your pea hole. Maybe you don't even notice it,

748
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: I guess, and then grow inside there and either eat

749
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: your penis or just hang out in there. That part's unclear.

750
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: This was made popular by an episode of Grey's Anatomy

751
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: noted very accurate medical show.

752
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: Very accurate. I actually only watched that show to diagnose. Yeah,

753
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 2: not even my friends to me yet.

754
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm basically like a doctor now, and I think you

755
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: have a rare case of necrotizing fasciitis. It's like I

756
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: have a headache. Yeah, I think you should go to

757
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: the hospital.

758
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: Also, there's any hot doctors just hanging out.

759
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is kind of. It does give you the

760
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: sense that like every doctor is gonna be super super hot,

761
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: where it's like not to say doctors aren't hot. Most

762
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: doctors are just your regular you know, like all right, well,

763
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: let's take a look at you, you know, and now

764
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: hand me the four steps. Wow, it's getting hot in here.

765
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to unbutton my lab coat.

766
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: Well I take out the fish that's in your penis.

767
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: So a little background, A man comes in with like

768
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: he's unable to urinate. He's got some swelling and some

769
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: pain and the whole you know, sort of penis area.

770
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: And the doctors are scratching their heads like what's going on?

771
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: And so they had they could they ruled out some

772
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: other common urinary problems, and so they took an X

773
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: ray and they're trying to make sense of this X ray.

774
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: And here here it is. Here is there very realistic

775
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: doctor discussion.

776
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: The penis fish.

777
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: Sorry, so let me wind it back a little longer.

778
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: Amazing peanuts fish.

779
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna wind it back just a little further.

780
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Looks like some kind of foreign object. Ouch.

781
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: That almost looks like a skeleton. It's skeleton, like, definitely

782
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: skeleton those barbs.

783
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: No, it can't be.

784
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: It could be. It looks like a teeny tiny catfish.

785
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 2: See there, those of spines. This is a kangaroo fish.

786
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: The penis fish. This guy has the penis fish in

787
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: his in his.

788
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: The penis fish. This guy has the pus fish. It

789
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: is pis h he's got the penis fish. Yeah, beauty

790
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: the music as well, record scratch. I bet you're wondering

791
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: how I got here.

792
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: That's me.

793
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: She's zooming on the extra of the fish. It's like,

794
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: you see that, that's me. I'm the kangaroo. I wonder

795
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: how I got here? Well it all started when God. Yeah,

796
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: So it's this is this real? Uh? It's this is

797
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: a real fish. What's going on? What are these fake

798
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: doctors talking about? Well, so the kangaroo is a very

799
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: real fish, but the rumors of its affinity for the

800
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: human penis may be slightly overstated, or maybe greatly overstated.

801
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: It's a bit of a puzzle. So the kangaroo is

802
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: a small then catfish found in freshwater rivers of the Amazon.

803
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: It's also called a toothpickfish because they're so slender. So

804
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: they can grow up as adults to be up to

805
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: seven inches or two point five centimeters long, but younger

806
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: ones can be very small and thin, so maybe just

807
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: a bit thicker than a toothpick. So the idea is

808
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: that while they're little, they could like get up inside

809
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: of your urethra if you're constantly terreen. Yeah, if you well,

810
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that in a line. Okay, So what

811
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: do we absolutely know about kangaroos. They are bloodsuckers. They

812
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: will enter the gill cavities of fish and suck on

813
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: the fish's blood. So to anchor themselves, they will actually

814
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: erect spines that they have on their own gills to

815
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: stick inside the gills of their victims so they can

816
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: go in there and suck on blood. And it's actually

817
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: kind of weird because they can sort of like a leech,

818
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: like it becomes sort of engorged with blood. Start off

819
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: really thin, and then they get like this full belly

820
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: of blood. It's pretty weird, but you know, onto the

821
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: legend it's that they will swim up your I guess,

822
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: very healthy peace stream and into your urethra if you

823
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: have a penis. Now, this legend has been around for centuries.

824
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: In the nineteen or in the eighteen hundreds, biologist CFP.

825
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: Von Martius, who was, I guess, a German biologist studying

826
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: stuff in the Amazon, he was told about a fish

827
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: that was attracted to the smell of urine and may

828
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: swim up your peehole. Now, the problem with this legend

829
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: is that there's no evidence that kangaroos are attracted at

830
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: all to urine, and they seem to hunt by sight,

831
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: not by smell, so that doesn't really check out. Yeah.

832
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: In eighteen fifty five, another biologist was regaled with tales

833
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: of a fish that would swim up pea stream. But

834
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: the explanation of the fish being able to traverse the

835
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: stream of urine actually defies the laws of physics. That's

836
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: not possible.

837
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: That's not possible.

838
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 3: Huh.

839
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: It would need a type of propulsion. The fluid dynamics

840
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: of it don't make sense. Yeah, that no note of sense.

841
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: It's this idea that like a salmon, could you know,

842
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: like like salmon's who like jump up a waterfall? But

843
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 1: somehow you could do that, like in a stream of pea,

844
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: and it would just like swim up. It actually impossible

845
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: from a fluid dynamic and fish physics perspective. It's not

846
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 1: that maybe this aspect of the legend comes from fish

847
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: gathering at the site where the pea enters the water,

848
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: because like if you're peeing in the water, it creates

849
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: this little disturbance on the surface of the water and

850
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: fish may swim up to it. Not because they like

851
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: the smell of pea like their little freaks, or that

852
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: they want to swim up your peace stream magically using

853
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: their magic fluid dynamic stuff. It's actually just because any

854
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: kind of small disturbance on the surface of the water

855
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: may attract some fish because they're like, oh, you know,

856
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: is this like a fly or something that got stuck

857
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: on the surface of the water. What is it? They're curious.

858
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 1: They think maybe it's food, Maybe it's something of interest

859
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: to them. Could a kangaroo ever swim inside of your urethra?

860
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it could do it by traveling up

861
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: a peace stream if you're like in the water, could

862
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: it potentially get inside like a penis's peahole? Maybe, but

863
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: it's not certain whether we really have any documented evidence

864
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: of this. We're going to talk about the only case

865
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: that maybe the evidence of that in a little bit.

866
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: But one thing we do know is that despite this

867
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: being sort of pitched as something only people with penises

868
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: have to worry about, if you've got of age, you're

869
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: actually much more likely to have to tingle with the canda.

870
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: It's not that it's gonna go up your urethra, because

871
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, female anatomy, the vagina is not the urethra.

872
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: The urethra is separated from the vagina. The entrance of

873
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: the vagina just goes up into the vaginal cavity and

874
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: then there's the cervix that blocks that from the uterus.

875
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: So there are a few documented cases in the late

876
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds of the kangaroo entering the vagina, but it

877
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: was easily extracted, didn't really harm the person at all,

878
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: And that's a bit easier to accomplish than going up

879
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: a narrow urethra.

880
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: There's a little more loom, you know, right exactly, yeah.

881
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: Little mirror. And again this was probably a mistake. The

882
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: kangaroo was thinking that it was going in the gills

883
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: of a fish, that it normally preys on. But oops,

884
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: it's you know, a vagina.

885
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: Yep, oops, yeah, dang it.

886
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: So in nineteen ninety seven, the only documented case of

887
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: a kangaroo entering a penis occurred in Brazil. The twenty

888
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: three year old man claimed a kangaroo jumped from the

889
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: river into his penis as he was urinating. This incident

890
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: is contentious for a number of reasons, which were thoroughly

891
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: examined by American marine biologist Steven Spotty, who investigated and

892
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: wrote a book in two thousand and two called Kandaroo

893
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: Life and Legend of the Bloodsucking Catfishes. So he looked

894
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: at this story and examined some of the problems with

895
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: how the incident was presented. He didn't say like, oh,

896
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: this is a total lie or anything. He just these things,

897
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: these aspects of the story don't quite make sense. So

898
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: either there's some mistakes in like how this this uh

899
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: was recorded, or some misunderstandings, or maybe some aspects of

900
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: it were made up. You know, people have been known

901
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: to lie about things.

902
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 2: On to be human is to err yeah, describing what

903
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 2: came up, to be humanist.

904
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: To yes, to be humanists, to err on what went

905
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: up your penis hole. So the victim claimed that the

906
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: kangaroo leapt out of the water via his peace stream

907
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 1: into his urethra. So this is the typical story in

908
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: the folk tale. But again, like we described earlier, this

909
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: version has been thoroughly disproved.

910
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: Just by p physics.

911
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: It can't really happen. The more likely way of this

912
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: happening would be if you are waist deep in your

913
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: your penis is actually in the water, then perhaps like

914
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: it could go up inside. It would have to be

915
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: very small a juvenile. But you know, maybe, but this

916
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: isn't what he described. So either he was just mistakenly

917
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: thought that's when it went up, like maybe it got

918
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 1: in earlier and he didn't realize it got in when

919
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: he was like submerged, and he just assumed this is

920
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 1: how it happened, or he was like not telling the truth.

921
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and just say,

922
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: like he this is what he figured happened, but it's

923
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: that's not what really happened. Like it must have happened

924
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: when it like went up when he was like submerged

925
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: in water. So not necessarily lying, but there's no way

926
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: for it to actually go into the peace stream, so

927
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: he would be mistaken about that, right. Another weird thing

928
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: is that the fish specimen from the alleged incident was preserved,

929
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: but its head was too big to fit inside a urethra.

930
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: So the timeline is off because he was saying he

931
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: had this happen right after, like, like, he went to

932
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: the doctor pretty quickly after this incident, so in order

933
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: for the fish to get inside it would require way

934
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: more force than the fish would be capable of doing. Again, like,

935
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: the only way for this to happen without without it

936
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 1: just being completely made up, would be this person mistakenly

937
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: thought this was when he was infected with it, but when,

938
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: in fact, a lot earlier, a small like a baby

939
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: one went up in and then like grew inside of

940
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 1: him somehow worse worse, which again is just conjecture because

941
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's possible, right, But I'm just again,

942
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm trying, I'm trying to present the version of events

943
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: in which like, it's not just like a big lie,

944
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: it's just a misunderstanding, which often happens when it comes

945
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: to you know, when a penis or a fish goes

946
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 1: in your penis. Yeah, the doctor who documented the case

947
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: claimed that the kangaroo is attracted to urine, which again,

948
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: that's a myth that has long been debunked. So already

949
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: this doctor has made a mistake in you know, his

950
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: own understanding of the situation. The same doctor claimed that

951
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: the kangaroo had chewed its way into the victims scrotum,

952
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: but a kangaroo does not have the jaw wars to

953
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: do such a thing. So again there's a couple of

954
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: fishy things. No pun intended with what the doctor is

955
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: claiming here, So uh, doctor Penish fish again. Oh, I

956
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: forgot to mention the doctor and the Grayson Out of

957
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: Me episode that the urologist who is examining this was

958
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: called doctor Fish or.

959
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm yo, no, wow, that's pretty awesome. Actually, yeah, and.

960
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: Your name is Mayfish. So obviously you have to become

961
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: a urologist and specialize in the kangaroo fish because that's

962
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: how it works.

963
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 2: That's how it works. And actually it's pretty excited to

964
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 2: find my calling.

965
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: Right and now this video essay, you have a great

966
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: calling on YouTube, But like, was that really your true

967
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 1: calling or was it penis?

968
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: It was all just set up for me to discover this.

969
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that like, absolutely a penis fish.

970
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 2: He's got a pus fish. His penissh penis fantastic.

971
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: In this like quote unquote real life incident, the doctor

972
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: again made another spurious claim, saying that he had to

973
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: clip the fish's spines to extract it. But all of

974
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: those spines were intact on the preserved specimens, so that's

975
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: not lining up either. So there was a sistoscopy video.

976
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: So a sistoscope is a small camera in light that

977
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: goes into tight body spaces for surgeries or exams, and

978
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: there is a video of it. But in this video,

979
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: it shows the fish carcass being pulled out by forceps,

980
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: which the author of this book contends would be impossible

981
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,959
Speaker 1: given the deserve specimens spikes being intact, because they would

982
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: like kind of snag on something. So maybe the specimen

983
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: is not the actual one or something something is going on,

984
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: But this video does exist, So it's like, well, what

985
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: what is like did they like fake this video to

986
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: go along with all this stuff or are there only

987
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: certain aspects of the story that are that are not

988
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: quite being told accurately. So I don't know if this

989
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 1: is conclusively disproving the Candoro story, because I'm not really

990
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: sure why both the doctor and patient would make everything up,

991
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: like just for attention or something, and they'd have to

992
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: be working together to make it all up. So I'm

993
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: not sure it's like a hundred percent hoax. It could be,

994
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: but my my guess would be it's like it's only

995
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: partially true and then there's you know, some exaggeration going on.

996
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: I think this may be, I mean, it could. It

997
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: could be a hoax though, because again, this is a

998
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: this is a folk tale that has long been you know,

999
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: so it's got this sort of popularity. But sometimes folk

1000
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: tales have a grain of truth in it, so there

1001
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: could be, uh, you know, this could have an origin

1002
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: not just in complete like like some so you could

1003
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: have some truth to it. Right, So if the kangaroo

1004
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: goes up, you know, if you're like submerged in the

1005
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: water and then it enters that way and then it's

1006
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: like it goes in when it's really small and then

1007
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: it just gets stuck and then gets bigger or something

1008
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: later on. Maybe that's what happens, and then these other

1009
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: aspects of the myth are are made up just because

1010
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: that's people assume this is what happens that you like uh,

1011
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: that that it swims up your peace stream or something.

1012
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't know, because like I don't

1013
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: even like how would if something is like growing inside,

1014
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: like a little fish is growing inside, Like it seems

1015
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: like that was still obstruct you're, uh, you're urinary flow,

1016
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: so it seems like you'd have problems for while. I

1017
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: just don't know. I I'm very skeptical, though, I'm skeptical, right, like.

1018
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 3: Freaking animal freak accidents happened, but yeah, this seems like

1019
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, yeah, it'd be hard if you fish.

1020
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's certainly it's not a fish that hunts

1021
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: down human penises and goes inside to hit the penis.

1022
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: That part is absolutely not true. If it does happen,

1023
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: it's an accident. But there is such a thing as

1024
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: parasitic castration. It's just not something that happens to humans.

1025
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: Thank god.

1026
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 2: Oh, thank goodness. That revealed terrible.

1027
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: If you're a crab or another type of animal, this

1028
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: may happen. Uh, and we'll probably even like we've talked

1029
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: about on the show Carsonization, like the universe trends towards crabs.

1030
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: Maybe one day will evolve into crabs and we're going

1031
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: to have to worry about the crab going at eating parasite,

1032
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: the Seculina carcini. So the Seculina carsony is a parasitic barnacle.

1033
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: I know, you wouldn't think like barnacles could be parasites.

1034
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: They seem like harmless little things that like sit on

1035
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: a whale and stuff. But there are types of barnacles

1036
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: because like the barnacle itself, it's not always just this

1037
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: like sort of hard shell that it forms. It is

1038
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: like a free swimming, little like sort of worm like thing.

1039
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: And so this one, the Seculina carcini, can take over

1040
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: a crabs intestines, stomach, and nervous system near its underbelly

1041
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: and feed on nutrients from the crab. And what this

1042
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: does is, even though it doesn't like only specifically eat

1043
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: its gonads, by depriving like siphoning off all these nutrients,

1044
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: the gonads fail to fully develop inside of these poor crabs.

1045
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: So males will actually grow up to look a bit

1046
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: more like females because they don't have the fe male

1047
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: hormones that would be produced in their their gonouts, and

1048
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: females will actually like they can also be infected. They

1049
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: just end up being a little more narrow than other

1050
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: females because of the nutrient depletion. But it's really interesting

1051
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: when they infect males because it changes their behavior in

1052
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: a very strange way.

1053
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 2: So, oh, that's wild.

1054
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: Somehow this parasitic barnacle causes the crab to help raise

1055
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: the brood of these little parasitic barnacles, grooming them like

1056
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: it's their own brood of eggs, which is strange because

1057
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: they're a male and they would not naturally ever have eggs,

1058
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: so clearly there's some kind of like male like these

1059
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: male crabs still have the capacity to have these like

1060
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: female crab instincts. It's very interesting.

1061
01:02:58,520 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 2: WHOA.

1062
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: So they'll groom them like they're their own brood sack

1063
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: and then release them like like because crabs do this

1064
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: thing when they're ready to release eggs where they kind

1065
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: of like go up in the waves and kind of

1066
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: like bob and shake and shimmy to get the eggs

1067
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: off of their abdomen and they kind of like usher

1068
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: them on for their own eggs. But they do this

1069
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: the males will do this for the parasitic barnacle all same,

1070
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: which is it's like very strange, very strange.

1071
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: Hormones are fascinating and wild.

1072
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it is an kind of heartwarmingly messed up situation.

1073
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. It is.

1074
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: Wow.

1075
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's like kind of cute in a way, like, well,

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm a mommy, you know, and then they

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Speaker 1: can do their thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm a zombie mommy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, zombie mommies. Yep. Very very strange, very interesting. But

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Speaker 1: I'll probably talk about more cases of parasitic castration on

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Speaker 1: another episode, but I think I think we only need

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Speaker 1: to do one example of the press that is.

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Speaker 3: That that's probably the wildest animal fact I've heard in

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Speaker 3: a wild Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so good. Sites are. They're fascinating because when

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Speaker 1: they modify their host's behavior in such a strange way.

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01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: It's like with screwflies, like they are a parasite, but

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Speaker 1: they they're just gross and bad and they hurt you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like, okay, I get it. But when you have

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Speaker 1: these very devious parasites, they are like you're the mom now,

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Speaker 1: and it's like I'm a mom parasites all right. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's so strange, so so very strange and interesting. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't really need to fear the kangaroo. We don't

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Speaker 1: even need to fear these parasitic barnacles until the inevitable

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Speaker 1: day that we evolve into crabs.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I'm looking forward to that day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, scuttling, I feel like scuttling is

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Speaker 1: underrated and I want to do more of it.

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Speaker 2: I want to scuttle. I want to scuttle about.

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Speaker 1: Suttling is fun? You ever scuttled? Ever got kind of

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Speaker 1: good scuttling?

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Speaker 3: I skip, which I guess is like the human equivalent

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Speaker 3: to a scuttle. I've also rolling down hills, which also

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Speaker 3: feels kind of like yeah, yeah, and I scuttle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, when I was actually a kid, I

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01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: learned about this is kind of a tangent, but like

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Speaker 1: I learned about how lemurs because they kind of like

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Speaker 1: hop side to side. They do this like sash shat

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Speaker 1: kind of thing, and it looked really fun, so I

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Speaker 1: started doing it, and then I found it's actually a

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Speaker 1: really easy way to get around. So, you know, do

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Speaker 1: this little lemur sacheting through the house. And my parents

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Speaker 1: just thought I was just like dancing around. Was like, no,

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Speaker 1: this is actually very efficient method of like emotions.

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Speaker 2: I'm walking better than other humans are onto something.

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Speaker 1: You guys. Yeah, yeah, so you know, scuttling it's pretty

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Speaker 1: good as long as you don't get in fected by

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Speaker 1: a barnacle parasite that's gonna gotta make your nads kind

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Speaker 1: of not work.

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Speaker 2: That's the downside.

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Speaker 1: That's a little bit of a downside. Yeah. Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think we've busted some some folk tales

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Speaker 1: and unbusted some not yet folk tales. But you know

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Speaker 1: that probably should be some you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, like this, you know, I feel

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Speaker 2: like you went through a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: That I had heard that I should be afraid of.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I think we have all correctly aligned ourselves

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Speaker 3: to be afraid of, uh those little zombie.

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Speaker 1: Craw Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like it's a it's

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Speaker 1: I like to reassure and then unassure, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, don't get too comfortable. Now that I've reassured

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Speaker 1: you this is okay. Now here's here's here's a little spice,

1134
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: here's the alternative that, here's the milk, and now here's

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Speaker 1: the spice. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for being

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Speaker 1: on today and for patiently listening through some of the

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Speaker 1: more horrifying things we talked about. Hey, where can people

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Speaker 1: find you on the internet? Oh?

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Speaker 3: look me up on Twitter and YouTube.

1141
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Speaker 2: Just at my name Maggie may fish m A. That

1142
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Speaker 2: is how you spell not the month. Yeah. On its Twitter,

1143
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Speaker 2: I'm usually just making jokes.

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Speaker 3: And on YouTube I do some fun at film analysis,

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Speaker 3: So check it out if that's your thing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, do check that out. She's got a very good

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Speaker 1: video on cam. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If you're into animals, that one might be the one

1149
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Speaker 2: to hear you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you can find the show on the internet

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