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Speaker 1: And here we are back again for another episode of

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Speaker 1: Off the Edge with Cam Jordan with me your host,

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Speaker 1: Cam Jordan. I've got my dog, a guy who I

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Speaker 1: played with, a man who I've seen not only the passion,

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Speaker 1: the inspiration, the integrity of holding the game down and

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Speaker 1: so many different facets a pro bowler are two types

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Speaker 1: of bowl champion with two different teams.

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Speaker 2: His hometown Eagles, my New Orleans Saints. My dog.

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins played thirteen years of NFL. Founder of the

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins Foundation as well as the Broadstreet Ventures VC fund.

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Speaker 2: The man just accomplishes side quest.

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Speaker 1: I just saw him two weeks ago just taking pictures

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Speaker 1: of live game in New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yo, oh, you came here to work work.

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Speaker 1: He's got a little photographer vest On, and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: he's just accomplishing side quest.

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Speaker 2: So this is a game to him. Okay, life is

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Speaker 2: a game.

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Speaker 1: And he's bawling out of control on and off the field.

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Speaker 1: The man knows how to be relentless.

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Speaker 2: It's time for this week's Drive for Success Conversation, presented

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Speaker 2: by tailte Let's go places.

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Speaker 1: You've also got you know, beyond being an activist and

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Speaker 1: I see you on like the Wall Street Journal page

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Speaker 1: pop ups every now and again.

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Speaker 2: You've got what we call a sub stack. Sub yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: What exactly is a substack? Because I know a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of words, I'm not going to say, like, hey, I

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Speaker 1: pride myself on being knowledgeable across a board of different items,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like I am and a substack meant

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Speaker 1: absolutely nothing to me.

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Speaker 3: The subtect is just another social platform.

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Speaker 4: It's essentially a newsletter, right, so instead of it being

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Speaker 4: small captions and photos and things like that like Instagram,

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Speaker 4: it really started with a bunch of writers who do

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Speaker 4: long form essays, thought pieces, you know, poetry, all kind

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Speaker 4: of stuff like that, which is right up my alley.

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Speaker 4: Once I wrote my memoir What Winers Won't Tell You,

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Speaker 4: writing really became one of my favorite mediums to communicate,

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Speaker 4: and so I found.

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Speaker 3: I really gravitated to that platform.

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Speaker 4: After the Super Bowl in New Orleans this past year,

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Speaker 4: I got really inspired to just put my thoughts out

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Speaker 4: there on how I see the game, this new phase

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Speaker 4: of life and how I'm taking all of the experiences

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Speaker 4: I had in football and applying it to this this

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Speaker 4: new wide open frontier that is, you know, retirement from sports,

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Speaker 4: so it's.

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Speaker 2: Like Pinterest, me's Facebook for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you want to see it.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, okay, okay, writers in therehod okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean just beyond beyond that, Bro, I love I

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Speaker 1: love what you you're able to do. I talked about

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Speaker 1: it just that few minutes we had before the game.

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Speaker 1: I was like, Bro, you're just accomplishing side missions. What

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Speaker 1: next is on? This is on this mission list? Because

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Speaker 1: there's got to be an operative stack, like you take

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Speaker 1: over the world how slowly one paragraph at a.

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Speaker 3: Time, one paragraph at a time.

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Speaker 4: But no, I think you know, when I retired, I

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Speaker 4: really looked at the landscape, and you know, what are

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Speaker 4: the avenues for me? Posts football, and the ones I

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Speaker 4: saw common was going into coaching, going into commentating, or

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Speaker 4: guys just disappearing. You know, you're not really knowing what

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Speaker 4: they're doing, and guys are isolating and struggling. And I

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Speaker 4: just wasn't ready to go back into coaching or to

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Speaker 4: going to commentating. I knew I had the skills to

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Speaker 4: do both, but really that's not what my passion was.

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Speaker 4: I've sacrificed so much time from family, from community, and

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Speaker 4: I just something in my spirit is telling me there

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Speaker 4: there's other ways to approach this. And so really what

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Speaker 4: guys who don't necessarily want to go in those or

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Speaker 4: can't go into those, those traditional pathways of coaching and commentating,

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Speaker 4: to figure out, like, what does life look like after this?

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Speaker 4: How do you approach the game upon your own terms?

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Speaker 4: And so you know, that's what you see when you

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Speaker 4: is because I'm choosing to show up how I want

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Speaker 4: to right in this newfound passion of mind a mouth

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Speaker 4: doing sidequest, discovering passions.

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Speaker 3: And trying them out the same way.

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Speaker 4: You know, when you wanted to be really, really good

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Speaker 3: To it to see if it was what you really

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Speaker 4: And that's what I'm really doing and I understand that

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Speaker 4: right now for the community of retire guys that struggle

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Speaker 4: after this game, it's important to showcase that there are

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Speaker 4: other opportunities, other avenues, other interests to be involved in.

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Speaker 3: If you can't get into coaching or commentating.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned in Struggle after Retirement.

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Speaker 1: Is there any one piece of memorabilia that you wish

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Speaker 1: you would have kept and didn't once you were like,

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Speaker 1: you know, going through that stuff. Because as I'm talking

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Speaker 1: this first interception ball that I gave away. I wish

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Speaker 1: I would have kept that because it meant X. I

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Speaker 1: just need to know as I'm like like a crew

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Speaker 2: Because I'm done in the next like three years for sure, Like.

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Speaker 3: Bro, here's some game.

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Speaker 4: So one of the things that I got into as

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Speaker 4: I retired seriously was collecting art. So yeah, when you

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Speaker 4: you know, you collect a bunch of art, all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden you got to get that stuff in short.

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Speaker 4: And then through that, I learned that my memorabilia collection also.

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Speaker 3: Had value, actually had more value than my art.

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Speaker 4: So all of those cleats, gloves, football's, Helman's game balls,

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Speaker 4: all of those awards have value. So definitely one take

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Speaker 4: inventory of it, keep it organized, understand what you have.

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Speaker 3: You know, some of it has more value than others.

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Speaker 3: Get it in short.

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Speaker 4: Some of those things I use now is like fundraising opportunities.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, but a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of those those important moments, those interceptions, the helmets from

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Speaker 3: I have all of that.

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Speaker 2: Do you have the helmets of the man?

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Speaker 3: Need that?

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Speaker 2: I'm not so.

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Speaker 1: I think I try to send a jersey or something

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Speaker 1: to the parents and like I got no more, no

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Speaker 1: more space to put it.

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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, bet, and.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you have.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you got a ton of stuff, a ton

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Speaker 4: of you didn't give it all the way.

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Speaker 2: No, But that's just it.

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Speaker 1: I just want to know, like I'm just sort of

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Speaker 1: I got like some special cleats, you know, like.

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Speaker 2: The Foundation cleats.

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Speaker 1: I've got, you know, a special pair of Jordan cleats

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Speaker 1: that you know, I just wore some all gold factory joints.

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Speaker 1: Ain't no customs, no more factory you know. I got

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Speaker 1: a couple of couple of game balls. I was I

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Speaker 1: was like, what do I do with these? I've like

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Speaker 1: deflated them and now I'm gonna make like a little

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Speaker 4: But the biggest thing is to your point is one

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Speaker 4: just take inventory, Like this offseason you get a chance

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Speaker 4: literally pull it all out and see what you have.

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Speaker 4: I think you'll be surprised, especially how many years you

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Speaker 4: are right now it's fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I told you I was gonna play fifteen, and then

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Speaker 1: now're like, next year sounds good?

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Speaker 4: Maybe it doesn't, but yeah, man, that's that's one of

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Speaker 4: those things that guys don't talk about enough, is the

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Speaker 4: value of the memorabilia collections, especially as we're swapping.

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Speaker 3: Jerseys and all those things. Yeahs value.

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Speaker 2: I don't the jersey swaps. When did that start?

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Speaker 3: That was?

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Speaker 2: Has it always been around?

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Speaker 3: No? No, no, absolutely not. It would have been so

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Speaker 3: frowned upon.

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Speaker 1: Right vlogs were frowned upon swapping jersey like you lame time,

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Speaker 1: unless unless you was, like you guys were best friends,

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Speaker 1: boys like actual actual.

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Speaker 4: Like former teammates, and even then you might have swapped

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Speaker 4: like behind the scenes, not.

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Speaker 1: Not like hey, in the middle of the field, hold

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Speaker 1: that joint up, you know, like I mean it's crazy

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Speaker 1: in the locker room for sure. You know, you go

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Speaker 1: to a Pro Bowl, absolutely, hey, bro, But after a game,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine twenty eleven, like, hey, bro, like remember

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Speaker 1: let's switch jerseys. No right here, let's take a picture

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Speaker 1: of it. Let's document this.

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Speaker 2: Coaches and players.

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Speaker 1: Jerseys, bro, what they would have posted us up during

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Speaker 1: the team meeting the very next day.

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Speaker 2: Look at these guys.

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Speaker 1: They're more worried about themselves than they are the team

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Speaker 1: they would like, coach, the game is over, like they

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Speaker 1: ain't none of the individuality twenty eleven, like, ain't no

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Speaker 4: Do you do you like that growth though, like the

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Speaker 4: evolution of the game, and just even like like I

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Speaker 4: hear so many players now talk about like them watching

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Speaker 3: It's like we would never say those things in an interview,

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Speaker 3: but it is what has grown the game at this point.

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Speaker 1: I mean I look at it like yo, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: guys used to rehearse their celebration dances. You don't let

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Speaker 1: you Lance Moore back in the day, just didn't go dance.

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Speaker 1: You had to be here's the king. The king, I say,

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Speaker 1: TikTok is a new mirror. Like you you're catching moves?

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Speaker 1: Are you making sure you got them?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 1: I understand, you know, like I may not ever get

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Speaker 1: behind it, but I got kids, and you know, now

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Speaker 1: if the kids are older, we six seven, you know,

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Speaker 1: we do all that so I can see where it

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Speaker 1: goes as a as a as a retired player. Do

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Speaker 1: you ever think about coming out of retirement as a

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Speaker 1: side mission?

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Speaker 3: No? No, that is complete, Buried. I'm good.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: What about this?

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Speaker 2: What about this week?

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Speaker 1: Your former teammate, you know, O g of mind, Brandon

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Speaker 1: Brown talking about talking about I'm going to reach over

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Speaker 1: to the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Got that knock? You got that got that call? Got

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Speaker 3: that is?

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, it's very tempting when you know, especially

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Speaker 4: when you fresh out, when you know you still have

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Speaker 4: some snaps in you.

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Speaker 3: The team is good, you know, it's not all.

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Speaker 4: Like hanging on you. It does make it, I think

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Speaker 4: more advertising. But for me, you know, when I was done,

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Speaker 4: I was sure, I'm like this is actually no, let

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Speaker 4: me take it back.

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Speaker 3: I'm lying to my.

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Speaker 1: Saying, y'all say, yeah you are, because we talked about it.

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Speaker 2: Next year?

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Speaker 3: Is that the next year? Actually, the Eagles gave me

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Speaker 3: That I really can't choose. It's so significant not.

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Speaker 3: Keeps me attached to both places, and both places are

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Speaker 2: Now you know your asses?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now you can't leave.

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Speaker 4: That's the one thing about this league, man, it's there

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Speaker 3: And that's what that's what I like about the league.

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Speaker 3: Right, how do you get outside? What do you do

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Speaker 1: to be the best, but they don't have the means to.

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Speaker 2: Get to college. So I focused on education.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've been able to send kids off to

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Speaker 1: college and Uianda public schools and pay for the whole tuition.

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Speaker 1: Like you know, your foundation in the Malcolm Jacobs Foundation,

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Speaker 1: you know you started, you started with your first.

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Speaker 3: Year, second year, Yeah, twenty ten, my second year in

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Speaker 3: the league. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you talk, you know with everything that I know

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Speaker 1: if you've you've always talked about paying affward for just

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Speaker 1: you know, the next wave as well. Just give me

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Speaker 1: in a nextdoe of you know what the foundation program has?

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Speaker 2: How has it grown since since twenty ten?

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Speaker 3: Man, we started in twenty ten, which means that this

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Speaker 3: year we'll celebrated fifteen years of work, which is longer

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Speaker 3: than I played in the league, which is when I

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Speaker 3: think about that is really mind blowing me and my mom,

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Speaker 3: she's the president of the foundation. We started in New

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Speaker 3: Orleans and expanded it to everywhere we call home.

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Speaker 4: So that was Ohio, Columbus, Ohio, Philadelphia, where I was

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Speaker 4: at playing, and then Pitscatto in New Jersey. And you

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Speaker 4: stayed in New Jersey where I'm from and being able

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Speaker 4: to expand our programs that exist in all of these markets,

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Speaker 4: regardless if I'm there or not, servicing thousands.

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Speaker 3: Of community members.

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Speaker 4: We just had an event in Philly a couple of

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Speaker 4: weeks ago where we fed about eight hundred families, and

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Speaker 4: you know, just to be able to have the support

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Speaker 4: from the community to expand our our reach across the

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Speaker 4: country to provide things like food, education services, financial literacy,

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Speaker 4: storytelling things, exposing kids to art. We do it all

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Speaker 4: like literally, all of the things that I'm doing in

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Speaker 4: my life. Journey is not just an example like hey

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Speaker 4: watch me. We're taking all of that access and pushing

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Speaker 4: it down to this next generation to let them know

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Speaker 4: that they can get these same skills, they can walk

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Speaker 4: these same paths. You don't have to be an NFL

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Speaker 4: player to do.

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Speaker 3: The side quest. Side quests are open for everybody if you.

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Speaker 4: Kind of take the time, breathe, analyze yourself about what

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Speaker 4: you like, what you do, don't try some things and

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Speaker 4: put yourself out there.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely just adding to the legacy for sure. You know,

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Speaker 1: I guess they'll say all these side missions.

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Speaker 2: You know, you think about just what you've done with

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Speaker 2: the with the VC as well, that's what you make

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Speaker 2: me mad. Well, these like I feel like I got

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Speaker 2: to step my head up, Like I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I can do more. I could, I could do more.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely out there for you if you want to.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I think that's really that's really the biggest thing. Sometimes

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Speaker 4: we feel like things aren't available to us.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's like, if you don't want to do it, that's

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Speaker 4: that's all good. But if you do want to get

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Speaker 4: out here, you know, I'm looking at how everybody else

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Speaker 4: makes money, you know, because we're all.

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Speaker 3: Like, okay, we want to grow generational wealth. And I

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Speaker 3: realized real quickly, you.

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Speaker 2: Have generational wealth.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't. I've got you can. We hear every

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Speaker 4: day about athletes going broke. So to say that we

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Speaker 4: have generational wealth is like, we have the potential for

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Speaker 4: generational wealth. We have a great foundation if we then

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Speaker 4: make our money work just as hard as us. But

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Speaker 4: if we don't, this money is going to run out in.

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Speaker 3: Five to ten years. And so what I had to

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Speaker 3: do is like, okay, well who is making all of

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Speaker 3: the money in the country. Who are the richest folks?

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Speaker 3: And when you look at it. They all make that.

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Speaker 3: They're not making it in stock market.

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Speaker 4: They make their money in venture capital, private equity, real estate,

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Speaker 4: and franchise. So I made sure I got in all

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Speaker 4: of them. And then when I built it, you know,

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Speaker 4: I didn't just want to do it for me. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I know my peers need access to this stuff. These

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Speaker 4: are the things that we don't talk about a lot

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Speaker 4: in locker rooms, don't hear about a lot. So if

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Speaker 4: I'm a set it up for myself, I'm a creative

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Speaker 4: vehicle where my teammates, my peers from across the league,

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Speaker 4: across the industries can also invest with me. That's what

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Speaker 4: Broad Street Ventures is, athletes, franchise partners, and we've been

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Speaker 4: able to really build this as a community and a network,

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Speaker 4: which is the exact model that everybody else is in

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Speaker 4: this country when you talk about the top top herners.

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Speaker 4: But those are the things that we talk about.

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Speaker 3: Enough. Is building a team, you know, outside of the game.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, especially now while I'm playing whatever it is, I

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Speaker 1: tell the guys, I'm like, hey, bro, like you've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of teammates and a lot of different things.

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Speaker 1: I was like, if you feel like you need to

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Speaker 1: learn something right now is the best idea.

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Speaker 2: Yes, When Jimmy.

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Speaker 1: Graham was in the locker room last year, I said, Bro,

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Speaker 1: I said, you should talk to him, my man, you know,

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Speaker 1: does these amazing things off the field?

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Speaker 2: Tap in if you got some business questions.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know Taysom Hill before, you know, the

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Speaker 1: seven years before he got to the NFL, you know,

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Speaker 1: on a b YU route. You know, he was working

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Speaker 1: it to be in the financial district, like Bro, Like

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Speaker 1: you have it at the palm of your hands right now.

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Speaker 1: As well as being able to leverage who you are

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Speaker 1: to get into the rooms that you want to be

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Speaker 1: in after you are who you are, not.

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Speaker 2: What's what's this? What's this?

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Speaker 1: Helmet gets peeled back and nobody really cares about the

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Speaker 1: shield that you're not rocky anymore. You know, when you

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Speaker 1: can go from Cam jordan' the Sames player to just

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Speaker 1: Cam Jordan, you should leverage Cam Jordans football player as

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Speaker 1: hard as you can, as much as you can.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but also set up who Cam Jordan's gonna be afterwards,

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Speaker 4: because Cam Jordan's only gonna be a football player for fifteen, sixteen,

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Speaker 4: maybe seventeen years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's Cam Jordan.

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Speaker 4: Gonna be Cam Jordan for a long time and eventually.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's what guys struggle with is when

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Speaker 4: you put all your chips into being just a football player,

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Speaker 4: when you are no longer a football player, you can't

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Speaker 4: go back on that field even if you wanted to.

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Speaker 3: You have to thedn't answer the question to yourself who

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Speaker 3: am I? If you haven't answered that already, it will

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Speaker 3: be stressful. And this is from experience. And I had

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Speaker 3: all the things going on and I still had that

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Speaker 3: same question, like, Okay, without this game, I've said mortar

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Speaker 3: an athlete as a cliche, but now I got to

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Speaker 3: put foot the payment. Who am I? Without the games?

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Speaker 3: And I think what you see me doing is actively

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Speaker 3: working that out.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Oh shoot, Like, I ain't gonna take you too

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Speaker 1: much more of your time. I appreciate you for tapping

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Speaker 1: in with me, of course, but shout out appreciate you

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Speaker 1: for everything you are. You get being inducted into I

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Speaker 1: almost forgot being inducted to the to the Eagles Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame November twenty eighth. You guys play Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: and the Bears in Rome, and Doonzle.

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Speaker 2: Said You've been even nothing but inspiration since I've met you.

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Speaker 2: I still have a favorite play back when it was

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Speaker 2: like twenty eleven or twelve, we played Tampa.

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Speaker 1: Bay and you walk down freaking the Vincent Jackson ju Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Junior d whatever it is, walked him down. You know,

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Speaker 1: we had we had the awesome goal line stop and

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Speaker 1: we like, hopefully they take because it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: You came forty yards from deep uh and then we

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Speaker 2: ended up.

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Speaker 3: You know, didn't you make the fourth down stop on that?

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to say there's a sequence of why

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Speaker 1: it's one of my Yeah, exactly, but appreciates you stopping

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Speaker 1: on the pod. Shout out to the Malcolm Jenkins Foundation,

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Speaker 1: the Marshallville's Kingsley, the VC Fund, the Broadstreet, the Substack,

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Speaker 1: it's everything that is Malcolm Jenkins, Doug.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it, love brother.

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Speaker 2: We're here, We're strong.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy that my guy is continually succeeding off the

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Speaker 1: field as he did on the field.

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Speaker 2: God bless peace,