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That's a 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: violent show. That's a violent show. She knows, you know, 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: you know, go creat an executive producer of The Quad 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: that was on BT. She came into town and we 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: we went out and hung out. Get to hear a 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: speech speak over to the Emery in regards to the Quad. Uh. 32 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: She's currently consulting producer on Empire that's on Fox and 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: as an overall development deal. What means I can know 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: she can take the outter, she can take please broking 35 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: to money making conversation, Felicia D. Henderson, you are truly 36 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: a fool, my brother. Well, Well, first of all, first 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: of all, you know it, you know, to be this 38 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: point place in my life to be interviewing a family 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: member that is U that has been so important to 40 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: my life personally, professionally. Um, you know, we cried together, 41 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: we laughed together, we shared our success stories, and we've 42 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: shared our frustrations in this business over the years. Yes, 43 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: Felicia D. Henderson, you're Georgia grad right, University of Georgia, right, 44 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: University U c l A undergrad u ci A, n 45 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: s A pH d. But University of Georgia bulldogs in 46 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: b A, my brother. See that's what I'm saying. So 47 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: you can forget all that you let talk you would Atlanta. 48 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: They don't true about U c l A. Look, get 49 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: to the point that's bull don't that's about I gotta 50 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: go friend on that. So I ever forget to a 51 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: Sigma Stata Sorority incorporated to see what I'm saying that 52 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: that's that's the people. That's the person who in the 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: industry with I was just your little background before we 54 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: get started interviewing this disgusted, incredible career that would not 55 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: be uh tooth breaks is not enough. But you know, 56 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: here's what Sean mcgonne. You know I'm gonna know it 57 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: at all and she knows that. Okay, I'm gonna know 58 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: it at all. And I come over and sister sister. 59 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: You know, she's supervising Producio Sister Sister. That's Tear the Star, 60 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: Tiar and Tomrramari and uh. And I'm a type person, 61 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: you know. I think I could write your boy come 62 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: right or I'm gonna come writing phenomenon until I got 63 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: the hub. Okay, see through so many scripts back into me, 64 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: said Rashan, check you to more. Day you can't write. 65 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: And she actually told me, I don't think you're gonna 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 1: make it in this business. I don't. I don't think 67 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: this is for you. I don't think this is because 68 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: because the thing about this is that what you have 69 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: to one thing you learned when you come up against 70 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: somebody who's talented. You know, it's like we just like anything. 71 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: You think you can play basketball, go play Michael Jordan's 72 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: you think you can go play beast, play Lebron James. 73 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: You think you can right sit in a room. Well 74 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: that's good company. But the thing is it's not. Sometimes 75 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: people really can't write. But then there's sometimes people just 76 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: need a little direction. And if they you know, and 77 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: especially once you care about them and get invested in them. 78 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: And you and I were ticket thieves from day one. 79 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: So it's like, this guy clearly is funnier than anyone 80 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: in the room. He clearly has the work ethic that's ridiculous. 81 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: He clearly knows what commitment is because he flies home 82 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: every single weekend to see his family in freaking Houston. 83 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: So this is a guy that I want in my 84 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: life and I know that I can learn from just 85 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: from trying to get deeper, get him to go deeper. 86 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: I will learn more from the process because he is talented. 87 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: We just have different talent faces, if you will. That's true. 88 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: And the thing about it was that, and I gotta 89 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: give her, I gotta give her a law because of 90 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: the fact that we were different, you know, because in 91 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: the in you look at our change lanes. You know 92 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: that I was just a guy who just saw things 93 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: from a different perspective. And I was always a natural producer, 94 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: manager of time. She was always a creator when she 95 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: was getting deals and writing, and she was only a 96 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: different show. I just love it going she doing that 97 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: she doing. But what you have to learn was that 98 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: wasn't my lane, that wasn't my life, you know, because 99 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: when she went to us l A and she was 100 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: getting all this Okay, you working girl, wh why are 101 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: you going with us? L A. You're getting jobs going 102 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: back to school? Yes, it was I got to go 103 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 1: back to school. Rishaw wouldn't even think about going to school. 104 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: You know, You're not the only one who was like, wait, 105 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: so you're already a successful sitcom writer and now you're 106 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: going back to school. You're going to go do what 107 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: those people? What those people are gonna be in class with? 108 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: I want to do what you're already doing. But I've 109 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: always been a person who needs knowledge, you know what 110 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: I mean, Like I knew what I did naturally. I 111 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: never had a writing class. It was just a gift 112 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: God decided I should have. But it was uncomfortable because 113 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, but why, why? Why does this work? How 114 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: come I don't know? I want to? And so I 115 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: needed to go back and get that m s A 116 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: and and screenwriting. And then sure enough, as I sat 117 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: in those classes, I'm like, oh, I already do that. 118 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: Oh that's called this works because and then also you 119 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: know why it doesn't work. When it doesn't work, it's 120 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: all knowledge that just I feel made me a better writer. 121 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: And because you got into business. You was an executive 122 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: right with NBC. Yeah, that was my first job when 123 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: I came out of UH Georgia and got a job 124 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: and basically the NBC management training program, I was called 125 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: a broadcast associate and it just meant that I rotated 126 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: through all the different departments and really learned how a 127 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: network worked, everything from the creative departments to the business 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: departments and really understood and it hasn't changed so to 129 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: this day. You know, I know stuff who are part 130 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: of the business works and um, that's where I started. 131 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: And believe it or not, as the first place I 132 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: ever read a script was when I was an executive 133 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: at at NBC. So that wasn't so being a writer 134 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: wasn't even your aspirations. It was just well, at that time, 135 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: I thought I was going to be the president of NBC. 136 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: That's what I thought, And that was actually closer to 137 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: your lane. We know, I, look, you're probably going to 138 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: be the president of a network one day. We used 139 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: to talk about it all the time, but that's what 140 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: I thought. But my supervisor at the time, who was 141 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: head of all like current programs at NBC just and 142 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: just said, you know, you give such thoughtful notes on 143 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: these scripts, and you don't mind saying when something doesn't 144 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: make sense to you, and you don't mind praising the 145 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: ones that are good. And you also have a kind 146 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: of confidence in the rooms that you don't feel the 147 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: need to say something just so that people know you're there. 148 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: Because I often would sit quietly because I felt like, well, 149 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: that showrunner has to know this doesn't work, like they're 150 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: paid to notice. But surely if I see it, they 151 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: see it. I don't need to speak just because my 152 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: mouth works, you know what I mean. So I would 153 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: sometimes and the show runners really appreciated that. So I 154 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: would give them the chance to make their own corrections. 155 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: And then as we went through the week and you 156 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: see revised scripts, you know, and if if you kept 157 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: seeing the saying mistakes, then you could say, you know, hey, 158 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: could you take a look at this as opposed to 159 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: this doesn't work? You know. Just I just knew how 160 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: to talk to them. And he was the one who's 161 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: told me that. My supervisor at the time, Ted Frank, said, 162 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, there's this program called the Warner Brothers Writer's 163 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: Workshop and into TV's like boot camp, TV writing boot camp, 164 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: and I really think you could write. And I was 165 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: like really, and he said, yeah, you should apply of course, 166 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: I get the application. You need a script to apply 167 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: something I've never I was like, oh god, well, how 168 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: does that work? I've heard, and that's what I did. 169 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: The first script I ever wrote was a Roseanne script 170 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: Believe it or not. Back in the day. That was 171 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: my favorite show on television. And that's what I wrote. 172 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: And I wrote respect Rosanne script, and I got into 173 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: the Warner Brothers program, and I've been writing ever since. 174 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: It's like twenty three years ago. Here's a funny parter. 175 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: But she hates taking notes from networks. Cover with a note, Really, 176 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: you got something, tell me because I remember what kind 177 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: of executi if I was, I was like, you think, 178 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna see that doesn't work? Like you know, 179 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: once you hear it at the table reading, you hear 180 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: all you're wonderful actors read it, you'll know if that's 181 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: gonna work or not. But sometimes again they just have 182 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: to say something because well, aren't I being paid to 183 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: say something? But you're also being paid to just be 184 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: quiet when necessary. I'm better now, by the rashant, by 185 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: the way, I'm better now now, I got a bank now, 186 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: and they give you know, I'm better. Okay, that's awesome. 187 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: It's the thing about it because it just when I'm talking, 188 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: I'll have a note in front of me. I out 189 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 1: doing have any questions in front of me because of 190 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: the fact that I'm talking with history. I'm talking with 191 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: somebody who has lived in life. She's she's a truth, 192 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: She's the truth. The game has changed so much, Felicia. 193 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: You know, because because you guys are really stars now. 194 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know I have to say 195 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 1: that because you're getting deals and the content that you 196 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: have has value and from an African American standpoint, At 197 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: one time, reality shows told the African American point of 198 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: view on television. Yeah, made us all man. I remember 199 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: when I was doing the awards, all my guests presenters 200 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: had to be from reality shows. You know, we had 201 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: no sitcoms. We have dramas. Where where are we at 202 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 1: right now? Where are we at right now? Yeah? You 203 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 1: know it's you're right, and um, you know I I 204 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: love reality shows from the point of view that my 205 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: brother is an editor on one of them, and so 206 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: when he works and is in a union job, that 207 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: means he's not in my pocket. Sold I love him 208 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: for that point of view. But you know, I was 209 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: like sad to see them taking over TV and you know, 210 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: see writing, um, you know, comedy and drama writing, like 211 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: particularly as comedy writing or comedy show started to disappear 212 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: from network television. And you know, couldn't all my friends 213 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: who were comedy writers, who I grew up in comedy, 214 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, couldn't get arrested. That was painful to watch. 215 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: And so then to have made the transition to drama 216 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: and all my comedy friends saying, how did you know 217 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: that it was time to move on? How did you 218 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: just know that it was about to be? And I 219 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: didn't know. I just was blessed. I got out at 220 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: the right time, went back to school and came out 221 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: a drama writer, and it just timing was just everything, 222 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: you know. And but I still remember Rashaan like you know, 223 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: uh SOFA went off the air in like two thousand 224 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: and four, so like fourteen years ago, and after I 225 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: came off of that, you know, hit drama, the first 226 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: drama to black drama feature black folks. That was a success. 227 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: There have been others before it, but in terms of 228 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: a success, and you know, five seasons and I thought, 229 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, it's all finally changed, and I went 230 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: out in two We're gonna be back in one minute 231 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: because you're talking great news on the phone. As a visionary, 232 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: she created Landmarks Soul Food series of long first running, 233 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,599 Speaker 1: the drama featuring African Americans. Um, she's currently involved with 234 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: The Punisher, who that's one of my favorites that shows 235 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: a violence. It's ridiculous. But up there, right there, just 236 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm there, And so that's the third season. 237 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: You've just completed shooting right Felicia Henderson completed the second 238 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: season of The Punisher and quit saying that show so violent, 239 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: it's better we put it there than you know, I 240 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: go out in my real life and start shoot my folks. Well, 241 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: here's she doesn't have a character. She cares a gun. Now, 242 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: don't don't get me wrong. Now, just let's girl telling 243 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: the truth. Now, Now here's the deal. I was like, 244 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: you know what confuses me because of the fact that 245 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, it started on Daredevil and they built this 246 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: character out of that, and I get the impression that 247 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: that was one day there was another very popular a 248 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: series on Netflix. They built this character out of that, 249 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: and I just finished watching the first season. That's why 250 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm just acting like it really is the second season 251 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: that you shot in New York? Correct this this past 252 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: that's correct. Yep, yep, that's right. Um and yeah that's right. 253 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: So we should in winter and basically winter and spring 254 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: and summer. Um, so sometimes it's quite cold, but yeah 255 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: we shoot mostly and um you know brooking sometimes in Manhattan. Um, 256 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: but yeah, to shoot the show in New York. The 257 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: writers are in our based in l A and the 258 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: Marvel offices here. Yet we know the first time I 259 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: wanted just so much. I'm gonna tell you. First of all, 260 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: I realized how big you are when I'm going like, 261 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: I don't have enough time, but I'm gona getting squeez 262 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna a squeeze job. Now it's the part that 263 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: really got to meet when she started doing animation. Now 264 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: see see that that that wasn't the Black Folks world 265 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: right now they're doing animation. Now, how did you get 266 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: into animation? No? So okay, so this is what happened 267 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: in the comic books, right right right, yeah, But this 268 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: is the thing people don't know because whole balks around saying, well, 269 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: when I was a little girl, I was a sickly 270 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: little asthmatic who couldn't go outside. So that's when I 271 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: started reading comic books. So I loved comic books my 272 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: whole life. Like I was obsessed and still is with Batman, 273 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: like Batman was everything because that wasn't he was my 274 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: you know everything, and so truly just starting to meet 275 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: you know, you meet more people as you do different 276 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: kinds of shows. And I was um coming off of 277 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: Gossip Girl and on Fringe when UM I was first 278 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: approached by d C Comics saying, hey, we got this 279 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: comic book that's about teens, but it's still sci fi 280 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: and you just came off of a team show and 281 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: now you're doing sci fi. How would you like to 282 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: write Team Titans? And for me, I was like, that's 283 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: an entry, you know I wanted. I like, why not? 284 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's the thing I loved as a kid. 285 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: So I knew I couldn't do it full times. It 286 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: doesn't say it enough money, but I knew that it 287 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: was really you know, I knew that it would fulfill 288 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: me cre negatively. So I loved it. I hope to 289 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: go back to it, you know, I really do. I 290 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: just got so busy, but I really hope to go 291 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: back to and even create my own comic books. I'm 292 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: looking for a comic book right now to adapt into 293 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: a TV show, you know, under my newsbox deal. That's 294 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: one of my goals. And especially coming out that The Punisher, 295 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I love this. You know, it's it's 296 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: one that really adapted well, just through about fifty thousand 297 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: all moments. You know, you know, gossip Girl when I 298 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: came off a gossip Girl and teen Titans tea this 299 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: is a movie theater, okay, tea just a new theaters 300 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: in movie these right now. You know they weren't paying 301 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: that enough money because you know, because you get checked 302 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: that foot. I was just fine, I'll rashand just managed 303 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: to Steve Harve and that's all I was doing. But 304 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: you have that blowing up and doing it well, might 305 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: we at? You know? The beauty of this, This is 306 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: why I love about you is that people always tell 307 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: me Richard, you have reinvented yourself so many times. Yeah, 308 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: sometimes I just do it automatically, and I don't like 309 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm reinventing myself right now, hosting money just right, it's 310 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: like it's time to it's time for something new, and 311 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: you can't be afraid of change. That's what you and 312 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: I know that. People say, what is your secret? I'm like, 313 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: you can't be afraid of change, or you can be afraid, 314 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: but you must act despite your fear. You always have 315 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: a feel, you know, like, oh God, this is probably 316 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: time for a change, and you'll just sit and wait 317 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: past the moment that you should have made a change. 318 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: This is this is There is always laugh at me. 319 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: There's always laughing because I would be in I'm writing. 320 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: I can write, okay, can write, but but but but 321 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: I always have something else going on. Yeah, well you 322 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: always have the side hustle. You all have the side. Yes, 323 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: you know. I come back from launch late, Like where 324 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: are you being? Oh? Oh, don't make you better be happy? 325 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: Sarah Penny Johnson isn't on this call to talk about 326 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: the time. You can't back late from La Chester. Parker's 327 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: was at meetings, y'all at meetings to go create something 328 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: else was that he was at the bank and the 329 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: bank got held up and so that's why he came, 330 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god, like I was coming back to the 331 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: park and that started Monique at the time and Dorian 332 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: Wilson and and I was like four hours later on 333 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: four and and and were deadline to this. Sarah say 334 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: where you bet? I said, O, my mind go, I 335 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: can't say. I've been at a meet. And she gave 336 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: me this opportunity bank robbery. Bank. I was at banking, 337 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: thank god robbed and uh, he said, she said, I 338 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: said it said bank I rob wish you where I 339 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: sit in Baby Hills. I went in there and the 340 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: guy said, everybody down, and we got that. You come 341 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: back to working calmly with the story. And that's a 342 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: testament how much Sarah loves you is because she went 343 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: okay and immediately called me, like, let me tell you 344 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: about the Libra shot just told me. Even today she 345 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: asked me about that bank robbers to Rishan the bank 346 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: robbers story. And let's just explain Sarah friend to Johnson Creative, 347 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: Mosia Creative, the Parkers, an incredible writer, amazing family matters. 348 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: That's what you met Sara on Family matters. Correct. I 349 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: met Sarah on Family Matters. I met Sarah and be 350 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: the Spirits who were they were writing partners at the time. 351 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: But Sarah mentored me my whole comedy career, and even 352 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: when I transitioned to drama. You know, um, she continued 353 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: to mentor me because she's the normal one and I'm 354 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: the hothead. So she's always been able to talk to 355 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: me off the ledgend when I got the opportunity, because 356 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: she always wanted to transition to drama. So when I 357 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: did a single Ladies for B E T I I 358 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: called her and it's like, hey, you're ready to do drama. 359 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: It was such a pleasure. You know, when you can 360 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: work with your friends, Rashawn, as you know, there's no 361 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: more joy than working with your friends. And so we 362 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: did that together and then she did the Quad with 363 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: me as well. She's doing another show, another drama right 364 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: now at the T so she um, she's a drama 365 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: writer now. But without that woman, I don't know where 366 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: I'll be because she really taught me calm your grass down. 367 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: But just mar Brocker kill Okay, yes, yes, Kenya Burrows, 368 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: come on now. Felicia Henderson Okay, Felicia, don't ever get 369 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: don't get a twist Mishean McDonald know. I'm saying that 370 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: young lady has has really uh made an impact because 371 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: she she cares so much about everything. But the thing 372 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: about it, when I talked to Felicia, like she don't 373 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: she she just slid right past J. J Abrams though, yeah, 374 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: just slip right past Yeah, you know that moment working 375 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: on Fox. You know what I'm saying, all the networks. 376 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: So when you when you look at your resume and 377 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: your body of work, you know, and like I said, 378 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: the reason I have you on the show because you 379 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: are because you know, people are so aware of social 380 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: media has made so many people wear and black people 381 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: watch TV anyway, So as your role of expokesperson change, 382 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: because used to just write your show and created, but 383 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: now people know so much about your life. I just 384 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: google your name, picture of you pops up, you know. Information. Yes, 385 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: it's different, isn't it. And you know, I just came back. 386 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: I did a panel at Comic Con and several interviews 387 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: down a Comic Con and San Diego, you know, for 388 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: The Punisher. But it's it's so interesting now everything is 389 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: so different. And every interview I did, and even as 390 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: I started the panel, they said, first, okay, let everyone 391 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: know your handles, like that's where they start, Like, tell 392 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: everyone where they can find you on social media, which, 393 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: by the way, and follow Felicia D follow Felicia U 394 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter. So as I'm trying to learn its 395 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: not And so I'm such a private person and as 396 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: you know, I'm better one on one. I'm not a 397 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: big party person. I'd like to look at people, you know, 398 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: one on one in in your eyes. That's when I'm happy. 399 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: It's but it has changed, and they're like, Okay, you 400 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: have to get out there, you go, I go. But 401 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm a writer. My writing will speak for its O. 402 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: They're like, no, everybody knows what a showrunner is now. 403 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: You can't just hide behind the work. So it's like 404 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: you've become more of a public figure and people do 405 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: know like stuff about you. You're like, where did you 406 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: even know that? Well, you know that interviews you did 407 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: at it was it was recorded and put up on YouTube. 408 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, really, because I'm also a very frank person, 409 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: and I'm used to being very frank and being very honest, 410 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: and and you have a moment now where you're like, okay, 411 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: I have to edit myself with it because I don't 412 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: you know, know where this is going to air or 413 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: where this is gonna be seen. And as you also know, 414 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: is that I'm also a professor at the Unity University 415 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: of Texas Austin. So I'm also a longhorn now, and 416 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, so I'm like, I get there, only my 417 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: second year there. I get there and they're like, hey, 418 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: so you did this this. I'm like, WHOA were just that? 419 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: But you haven't testing that because they, like everybody in 420 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: the studio, they're just shaking their head now. They we 421 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: just can't leave her. They all just they don't They 422 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: don't know what raised me in this business. Now. You know, 423 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: when I'm sit down and do not even know why. 424 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: I had to tell people I was at the bank robbery. 425 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: When I came back, they would not have leave anything 426 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: else the funny brought about the bank. You just still 427 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: trying to justify. I have to justify that because when 428 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: everybody looked at me, they looked at me. You could 429 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: see I was such a good story I'm a good 430 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: story teller anyway. And I told him and I said, 431 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: when the guy said everybody down, I got damn. I 432 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: was down. Hours I was down. I was down. I said, 433 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: I'm happy on me here and I was rubbing my 434 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: chirt like you know, like you wrinkled. And I never 435 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: had a to go sert your like you would ask 436 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: for high polica. This has been my best interview ever. 437 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: Can you come back when Empire starts taping in the fall, 438 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: can you come back on the Absolutely? It would be 439 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: my pleasure. It's a pleasure to be part of that 440 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: as well, and I would like to. And you know, 441 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: you and me, we we do what we do to 442 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: be where we have to be at all times. So 443 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: you calling our come running. 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