1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Murder in Miami is a production of iHeartRadio. What follows 2 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: is some bonus content from mister Happy Miles on is 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: dealing with the DEA and others on the task force 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: fighting the War on drugs in the nineteen seventies in Miami. 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: Mister Miles says there was absolute overlap with law enforcement 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: and the opposing side of the battle in terms of corruption, 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: and that he had a front row seat to it 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: during his pre smuggling days as the commodore of the 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: Adventurers Club in Coconut Grove. 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: My want for people to realize that people in governments 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: shouldn't be able to come in and destroy your livelihood, 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: in your way of life without any recourse. It's just wrong. 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: It's wrong. You're cooperating with them. And because Congress has 14 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: in fit to grant them funding, they in turn have 15 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: the right of seizure, and so they don't care if 16 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: you're doing anything wrong or not. They just want to 17 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: seize whatever they can so they can get funding to 18 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: put gas in the DEA vehicles, to have people come 19 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: in that can put you out of business in our heartbeat, 20 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: and do it with impunity. It's wrong. It's terribly wrong. 21 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: I mean they can lie to you. They can do 22 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: anything they want to in an interrogation to try and 23 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: tick trick you into admitting something or saying something improper 24 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: that can be used against you. And now that's okay. 25 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: People realize why I ever got into the business, and uh, 26 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: it was because I was basically pushed into the business 27 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: to survive. You know, it's like a sinking ship. You 28 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: jump off of it, you get in a raft and 29 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: hope she'll survive. 30 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: So you contend that until the DEA approached you, you 31 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 3: were a legitimate businessman. 32 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: Exactly. I mean, it wasn't just DEA, it was it 33 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: was FBI, it was DEA, it was I, R, S 34 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: and H and the state police. I mean, it was 35 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: the whole task force. And then they came in and said, hey, 36 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: we might seize happ these airplanes, and we're putting you 37 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: on notice, so if we do seize them, we can 38 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: keep them. 39 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: But what do you think placed you on their radar? 40 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: Was it Jack Devo? 41 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I think that active vote was using my airplanes. 42 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: Did they claim that you knew what he was doing 43 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: with your planes? 44 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 2: Well, they acted like I either knew or was part of. 45 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: It, and did you know? Were you part of Oh? 46 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: I wasn't part of it, and I didn't know. 47 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: But to save his planes from being repossessed by the bank, 48 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: Happy says, he turned to smuggling. 49 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't want to my company to go under 50 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 2: and disappoint everybody who had given me money to have 51 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: the right to sail and fly. I mean, you know, 52 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: there's a little thing called honor, which very few of 53 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: these guys have. I had enough fun afterwards, which I 54 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: would have probably never had and never had that kind 55 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: of money if I hadn't gotten into the business. So 56 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: anyway I at all equals itself out. 57 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: Happy says. Once he retired from smuggling, he was asked 58 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: to share his insight with law enforcement on how the 59 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: war on drugs could be won. 60 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: I once gave a lecture to people from all over 61 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: the country. There had to be forty five people in 62 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: the room, and I told him how you shut this 63 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: at least eighty percent of cocaine down? And when I 64 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: got done, they all agreed that it would work what 65 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: I told him. But like I was conducting an orchestra, 66 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: four guys in different corners of the room stood up 67 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: and they said, yeah, but what would we do for jobs? 68 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: They didn't care about shutting it down. That was the mentality. 69 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: They didn't want to stop it. 70 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 71 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: or wherever you get the stories that matter to you.