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Speaker 1: media said differently, I visit palace campuses, so you don't

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Speaker 1: have to. We're talking to so many voters that know

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Speaker 1: it is time for change, They know that something is wrong.

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Speaker 1: America's future is a series of choices. Our current state

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Speaker 2: There is no mountains Stearms tar, who's your face food?

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Speaker 3: There is no.

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Speaker 4: Man Charlie. I remember when we were starting these out

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Speaker 4: and it was that like that, you know, it was

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Speaker 1: It was like it was like your average three roads.

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Speaker 5: It was like your average.

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Speaker 6: Political meeting where there was like twelve people.

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Speaker 3: In a room and this is this is awesome.

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Speaker 7: This, in my personal opinion, was the most over the

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Speaker 1: This is the number one boots on the ground operation

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Speaker 1: Trump campaign. It's been vetted, it's been clear, it's been blessed.

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Speaker 1: As you could see there and we're going to try

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Speaker 1: that matters. Mister President, I can tell you this room

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Speaker 4: Percent with you and we have your back. God bless

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Speaker 4: you you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: As you know, we are heading on campus here momentarily

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Speaker 1: We are excited to continue this cultural movement that we

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Speaker 1: have started at Turning Point USA. More high school chapters,

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Speaker 1: is invited. We want to have those tough conversations. That's

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Speaker 1: what it's all about. Because you're not supposed to be

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Speaker 1: on the vote for me every four years, give me

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Speaker 3: And what has happened is we are.

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Speaker 1: Seeing an explosion in citizen participation. Knock on that extra door,

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Speaker 1: go that extra mile, talk to that extra friend. Because

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Speaker 1: throughout voting month and culminating on the fifth of November,

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Speaker 1: books as the final battle from the Golden Escalator on down,

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Speaker 1: from defeating Hillary Clinton, from the Nonsense of twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: from Butler, Pensvania, November fifth. It all culminates where we

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Speaker 1: restore the promise that the founders gave us, and they said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: if the people want it, the people get it, and

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Speaker 1: we the people take back America. God bless Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Every day the American people demand certain accomplishments and victories.

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Speaker 1: Disagreement is what keeps a movement alive, keeps a movement fun.

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Speaker 1: Here in this country, we are a country of flourishing.

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Speaker 1: We're a country of risk taking. We're a country of building.

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Speaker 1: We will achieve American greatness and we are just getting started.

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Speaker 9: Every day there's a battle for your mind, raging information

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Speaker 9: coming from every angle, but the will to deceive.

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Speaker 3: I fear not.

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Speaker 9: You found the place for truth, the voice of a

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Speaker 9: generation that still has the will to believe in the

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Speaker 9: greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 5: This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 3: Fuck a lot. Here we go on.

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Speaker 4: Everybody. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 10: I am Andrew Covet, Executive producer of this show.

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Speaker 4: I am joined by some very dear friends of.

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Speaker 10: Charlie, and of course they need no introduction. That would

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Speaker 10: be in no particular order from my right to left,

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Speaker 10: Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, and Ben Shapiro, and I want

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Speaker 10: Vice President of the United States honor Charlie by guest

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Speaker 10: with righteous anger at what had just happened to my

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Speaker 10: they are on Tuesday. It was originally going to be Monday,

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Speaker 10: but you guys got slightly outclassed, umbed, wet.

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Speaker 5: Bumped, and I believe that just terrible.

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Speaker 11: First of all, thanks for having us and no place

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Speaker 11: we'd rather be, obviously, But if the idea is that

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Speaker 11: Charlie's friends are going to take turns, stop and buy

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Speaker 11: go on until about twenty fifty two. I think Charlie

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Speaker 10: But Matt, first, to you tell me what happened in

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, thanks for allowing us to do this.

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Speaker 2: It's obviously a great a great honor as well as

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, Charlie was a great man. He

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Speaker 3: All that came through.

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Speaker 2: But the word that keeps coming to my mind when

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Speaker 3: It's just impressive. He was an impressive guy.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thought that I had when I when

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Speaker 2: this conversation now, which is inevitable about well, who's going

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Speaker 3: Gonna be the new Charlie Kirk?

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Speaker 2: And I am truly sorry to say that the answer

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Speaker 2: like when Rush Limbaugh died and there was a conversation

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Speaker 2: You only get one Rush in your lifetime. You only

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Speaker 2: get one Charlie Kirk. We're blessed to have Charlie wants

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Speaker 2: and we're not going to have him again.

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Speaker 3: Now. All the rest of us can try to up the.

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Speaker 2: when I first saw and heard about this, I was

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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of reasons for it. Was a

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Speaker 2: horrible atrocity what was done to him. Uh, anger for

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Speaker 2: Whether you knew him or not, whether your friends or not,

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Speaker 3: About the grief and the morning and all of that,

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Speaker 4: Did you have a chance to hear that? And what's

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Speaker 2: I thought, well, I thought Jada, I thought his I

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Speaker 7: Thanks so much for being here with this. President Trump

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 10: As we remember our friend and the host of this show,

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Speaker 4: Mike.

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Speaker 13: Well, look, it's hitting everyone.

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Speaker 11: It's hitting millions of people who never met the guy

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Speaker 11: Everybody who knew Charlie knew this guy was going to

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Speaker 13: I think I don't think I'm being hyperbolic at all.

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Speaker 11: Or you just see him from Afar, and you say,

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Speaker 13: I just don't know.

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Speaker 11: He just had greater skill and talent than any other

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Speaker 11: He understood the risks of a public life. He understood

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Speaker 10: This is so utterly outrageous and infuriating to me, and

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Speaker 10: And anyway, so we were running. We've got about a

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Speaker 10: when I first started working with Charlie, I mean, Ben,

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Speaker 7: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news Break. I'm

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Speaker 7: Terrence Bates, a defiant FBI director. Cash Patel sits before

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Speaker 15: And in closing, mister Chairman and members of the Committee

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Speaker 7: Doria's testimony, Patel promised that the Bureau will continue its

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Speaker 7: will join the National Guard in an effort similar to

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Speaker 7: what we saw in Washington.

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Speaker 1: D c.

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Speaker 9: This movement will not be side. You're listening to The

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Speaker 9: Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 4: So great bumper.

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Speaker 10: Andrew Colvett here, Executive producer of The Charlie Kirk Show,

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Speaker 10: joined by our friends Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, Ben Shapiro.

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Speaker 10: Ben the floor is finally feel bad. Not at all,

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Speaker 10: I mean it's but yeah, please.

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Speaker 16: I think the thing for all of us about Charlie

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Speaker 16: is that everyone felt Charlie's he's the word innocent earlier, Michael.

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Speaker 16: It wasn't just that he was innocent in the sense

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Speaker 16: obviously that he was an innocent person.

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Speaker 5: He was truly innocent at heart.

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Speaker 16: Charlie didn't change from the time that I knew him

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Speaker 16: at eighteen years old. I mean, the first time I

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Speaker 16: met Charlie, and I've talked about this before, was the

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Speaker 16: Breakers in Palm Beach and he was walking around he

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Speaker 16: had just started turning point and he was like very

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Speaker 16: scrawny at the time, but very tall his bean pole,

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Speaker 16: and he was just a bundle of energy which never stopped.

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Speaker 16: I mean, legitimately endless levels of energy. If you're talking

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Speaker 16: about meeting Charlie. Charlie was just energetic all the time,

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Speaker 16: all the time, I don't know where it came from.

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Speaker 16: And he was walking around the breakers as a kid,

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Speaker 16: trying to gather donors, and he came up to me, is,

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Speaker 16: mister Shapiro, you know, great to meet you. And it

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Speaker 16: was like I wasn't used to be calling mister that.

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Speaker 16: I was like twenty eight and Charlie was eighteen, and

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Speaker 16: Charlie I met him. I turned to Jeremy Boring, you know,

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Speaker 16: the other co founder the Daily Wire, and I said

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Speaker 16: to him that that guy's going to be the head

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Speaker 16: of the RONC, like there's just no doubt. And as

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Speaker 16: I've seen the first meeting, the first meeting, right off

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Speaker 16: the bat, you could tell, because this is the thing

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Speaker 16: about Charlie, the way that people know Charlie as this

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Speaker 16: unbelievably talented debater and a terrific broadcaster and an unbelievably

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Speaker 16: clear advocate for his values and for biblical values and

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Speaker 16: for truth. And the reason that legitimately tens of millions

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Speaker 16: of people are mourning him. And I mean, I should

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Speaker 16: just say, from a Jewish perspective, every synagogue that I

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Speaker 16: know of did a tribute to Charlie Kirk over the weekend,

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Speaker 16: Like on Chabat. They stopped the services to do tributes

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Speaker 16: to Charlie, which is an amazing testimon to who Charlie was.

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Speaker 16: But you could tell that early that Charlie. The thing is,

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Speaker 16: Charlie got good at those things. The thing Charlie was

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Speaker 16: always amazing at the thing had an inherent talent for

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Speaker 16: his coalition building. He was always an unbelievably great coalition builder.

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Speaker 16: I mean, it's something actually that Tucker talked about yesterday

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Speaker 16: on JD's show, and that's an amazing thing. I mean,

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Speaker 16: this is a fractious coalition in America is a fractious country,

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Speaker 16: and to have somebody with the ability and to dedicate

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Speaker 16: his time and effort to actually building those coalitions is

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Speaker 16: really tough. To the point where you know, he's able

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Speaker 16: to bring together people who can, you know, disagree on

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Speaker 16: an enormous number of things and still point their ships

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Speaker 16: in the same direction.

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Speaker 5: Tucker Crass and I talked on Friday.

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Speaker 16: Okay, Now everybody knows that that Tucker and I have,

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Speaker 16: you know, had our disagreements and have our disagreements about

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Speaker 16: an enormous number of policy issues. And I'm sure at

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Speaker 16: some point, well we'll publicly discuss those issues and talk

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Speaker 16: about our differences and all that, but that doesn't matter,

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Speaker 16: because we're going to point our ships in the direction

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Speaker 16: that Charlie wanted those ships to be pointed, which is

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Speaker 16: in the direction of making the country stronger and better.

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Speaker 16: And that was Charlie's gift. That was the thing that

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Speaker 16: Charlie was amazing at. He did in nate talent for

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Speaker 16: that all the other stuff. I watched him cultivate over

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Speaker 16: the course of thirteen years. I watched him get good

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Speaker 16: at debate. I watched him become a charismatic speaker. Charlie

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Speaker 16: was not a naturally charismatic speaker. He became That is

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Speaker 16: an unbelievable skill to be able to actually better yourself

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Speaker 16: in all of these ways and get better every day

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Speaker 16: at doing them, so by the time that this horrifying

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Speaker 16: act of evil happened, he was just the best there

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Speaker 16: was at it. That is just an incredible testament to

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Speaker 16: not only the amount of determination and energy and grit

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Speaker 16: that Charlie put into things, and that rolled off him

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Speaker 16: every time you met him. He was just again bouncing

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Speaker 16: around the room every time you met him because he

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Speaker 16: had another thing to do, another thing to do, and

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Speaker 16: the fact that I remember when I got the when

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Speaker 16: I started getting the texts.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, it's.

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Speaker 16: I kept saying on the show, and I've said it

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Speaker 16: for days since, like there are no words, and I'm

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Speaker 16: rarely at a loss for words there They're legitimately no words.

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Speaker 16: But the thing that I remember stunning me is when

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Speaker 16: they reported when the headlines came up with his age,

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Speaker 16: because I was, like, I know Charlie for a long time,

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Speaker 16: and so you think of Charlie as you know, somebody

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Speaker 16: who grew up with you, which is which is true,

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Speaker 16: the fact that Charlie was thirty one years old and

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Speaker 16: had accomplished all of these things. I mean just when

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Speaker 16: Matt you say irreplaceable, utterly irreplaceable, I mean just completely irreplaceable.

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Speaker 16: Which is why everybody, I mean, this is why his

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Speaker 16: movement is going to have to be the replacement, right,

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Speaker 16: Everybody is going to have to do their part, because

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Speaker 16: when a giant drops the load, it's got to be

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Speaker 16: a bunch of normies who pick it up. But I

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Speaker 16: think that's the other thing about Charlie, aside from the

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Speaker 16: fact that he was a giant. I said this on

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Speaker 16: the show a couple of days ago, is that you know,

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Speaker 16: people describe people as larger than life. Charlie wasn't larger

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Speaker 16: than life. He just was life. He was just so

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Speaker 16: alive and so normal, so normal. That's why people connected

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Speaker 16: to Charlie.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't a persona. There are so many.

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Speaker 16: People in the space and in the political space who

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Speaker 16: are just kind of like caricatures of themselves and personas

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Speaker 16: and performative and all this kind of crap, and Charlie

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Speaker 16: wasn't any of those things.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 16: Charlie was a guy who had to be taught not

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Speaker 16: to wear a baggy suit, as we were talking about

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Speaker 16: off the air. Yeah, Charlie was a guy who, as

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Speaker 16: you mentioned, someone told me he had RIZ and he said,

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Speaker 16: what the hell's riz?

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Speaker 5: Right, That's who Charlie was.

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Speaker 16: And the fact that a normy can change the world

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Speaker 16: that way, I mean, and that's what Charlie was. He

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Speaker 16: was saying normal, good, innocent things, the kinds of things

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Speaker 16: that you want your children to grow up with, the

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Speaker 16: kind of I'm going to show my kids videos of Charlie.

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Speaker 16: And my kids are like eleven, I have four and

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Speaker 16: they range from eleven to two. I can show them.

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Speaker 4: Charlie Curk Videolie.

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Speaker 10: Charlie used to always check us and say no, like

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Speaker 10: if we had some content idea and you go, there's

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Speaker 10: ten year olds watching, there's fourteen year olds watching.

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Speaker 16: Always remember he brought he brought an innocence to the world,

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Speaker 16: but in innocence with a level of sophistication and how

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Speaker 16: to approach the world, and that is that is so

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Speaker 16: difficult to do because people who are innocent tend not

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Speaker 16: to know how to do. The other thing, the activism

579
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Speaker 16: thing and the coalition building thing is the front thing. Unbelievable,

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Speaker 16: truly amazing and developed tools that weren't even in his

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Speaker 16: arsenal at the beginning. This is why, you know, people

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Speaker 16: talk about Charlie being talented, and they think the talent

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Speaker 16: is a sort of compliment. A lot of people are

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Speaker 16: born talented at a lot of different things. Charlie is

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Speaker 16: born talented at a great many things. And then there

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Speaker 16: are the things that he legitimately made himself the best

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Speaker 16: in the world at. And that was an inspiration to

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Speaker 16: people too, because if you go back and you just

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Speaker 16: watch the sort of arc of his career and his trajectory, which,

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Speaker 16: as as Michael says, was going to lead to the

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Speaker 16: White House. I mean, like no one, no one believes

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Speaker 16: any different if you watch that arc, the ability to

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Speaker 16: continue to improve his own trajectory by becoming that that's

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Speaker 16: part of the tragedy is he was getting better at everything,

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Speaker 16: and he was already the best. He was getting better

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Speaker 16: at all those things. And that's an amazing that's an

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Speaker 16: unbelievable thing. And that's what was taken from us. And

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Speaker 16: the other thing is that you just to kind of

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Speaker 16: close out my monologue here, you know that it wasn't

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Speaker 16: just that I received, you know, messages from everybody. We

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Speaker 16: all received messages from from everybody, because if you knew Charlie,

602
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Speaker 16: even tangentially, everybody knew how affected you were.

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Speaker 5: By Charlie's death.

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Speaker 16: It wasn't just that I received messages from all over

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Speaker 16: the world from obviously, you know, friends in Argentina and

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Speaker 16: in Britain and in Canada, and tons from Israel, obviously

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Speaker 16: because Charlie, of course was publicly extremely pro Israel. Not

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Speaker 16: just not just that I got messages from people who

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Speaker 16: are very prominent figures who are liberal, who were deeply

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Speaker 16: disturbed and upset and who and who are not I

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Speaker 16: don't want to say that everybody who disagrees with us

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Speaker 16: politically is a person who celebrated Charlie's death, Because that's

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Speaker 16: not true. This is the uppertunity to Charlie provides. What

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Speaker 16: Charlie was about was opening doors. So all those kids

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Speaker 16: he was talking to on campus, so many of those

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Speaker 16: kids became conservative, became god fevers, went to church on

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Speaker 16: Sunday because of And they weren't people who already were

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Speaker 16: on Charlie's side, Right, that was Charlie's He took a

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Speaker 16: bunch of people who weren't going to go to church

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Speaker 16: last Sunday, and they all went to church last Sunday.

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Speaker 16: Right the church, Pece, from everything I'm hearing, were overflowing,

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Speaker 16: overflowing Charlie. She said, make heaven crowded.

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Speaker 11: Charlie. I knew I saw the Charlie affected church because

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Speaker 11: I'm sitting there. We're kind of a buttoned up, more

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Speaker 11: traditional parish shocking, I know, and not a lot of

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Speaker 11: tank tops. But I look around. I look around and

627
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Speaker 11: there were sweatpants and T shirts. And I was so

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Speaker 11: happy to see the sweatpants and T shirts. I knew

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Speaker 11: every single one of them was there for Charlie.

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Speaker 16: And so I think that we shouldn't just use this

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Speaker 16: as a as an opportunity to mobilize on behalf of

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Speaker 16: the things that Charlie believed to carry forward his legacy.

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Speaker 16: His legacy was going to people we disagree with and

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Speaker 16: getting those people to realize that Charlie's principles were right. Right,

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Speaker 16: that's the unbelievable legacy that he leaves because again, being

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Speaker 16: murdered in the way that he was doing the thing

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Speaker 16: that Charlie was all about doing outreach. He was doing outreach, right,

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Speaker 16: religious outreach. She was talking about Christ in the question

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Speaker 16: before he was killed, right, he's doing religious outreach. He

640
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 16: was doing political outreach, values outreach, biblically based outreach, and

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Speaker 16: being killed in that way means that there is an

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Speaker 16: opportunity to reach out to people who weren't going to

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Speaker 16: be devotees of Charlie or devotees of the ideas that

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Speaker 16: he espoused, and to ignore that, I think would be

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Speaker 16: to ignore a huge part of what his legacy can mean.

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Speaker 16: So yes, I totally agree with the Vice president. You

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Speaker 16: can't have unity with people who celebrate the murder of

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Speaker 16: Charlie Kirk. You absolutely cannot. Those people are I'm not

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Speaker 16: going to curse. Those people are the worst that humanity

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Speaker 16: has to offer. The people who celebrate the death of

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Speaker 16: a wonderful person like Charlie and a husband and a father.

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Speaker 5: And I cannot watch the tapes.

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Speaker 16: I mean that you're playing before the show started, the

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Speaker 16: videos of Charlie with this, I can't watch them.

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Speaker 5: I have such a hard time with that.

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Speaker 16: I mean, because we all have young kids, like what,

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Speaker 16: it's so painful, it's so painful to watch and knowing

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Speaker 16: that those kids are going to grow up without their dad,

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Speaker 16: it's it's unspeakable, unspeakable. And people who celebrate that there

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Speaker 16: are no there are no deaths in hell that are

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Speaker 16: rich enough for those people. But I think that there

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Speaker 16: are people that we can reach out to. And that

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Speaker 16: was always Charlie's idea. There are always people that we

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Speaker 16: can reach out to. He convinced literally millions of young

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Speaker 16: people to move to the other side of the political aisle,

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Speaker 16: And so I think there's an opportunity to make people

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Speaker 16: make that choice, make that choice, choose between the demons

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Speaker 16: who are celebrating Charlie's death and the rest of us

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Speaker 16: whould like to have a functional country where we can

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Speaker 16: talk to one another love.

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Speaker 4: I love what you said.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I do think this is an opportunity. This

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Speaker 10: is a this is that fork in the road moment

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Speaker 10: as a country where we and this is you know,

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Speaker 10: we could get into the whole cancel is it cancel

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Speaker 10: culture debate or whatever, which I personally find to be

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Speaker 10: ridiculous because if somebody revived reveals themselves to be a ghoulish, nasty,

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Speaker 10: vile person, then that employer should have every right to

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Speaker 10: fire a If.

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Speaker 11: You threaten to murder someone or encourage the murder of

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Speaker 11: someone for speaking their mind, then it actually helps the

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Speaker 11: marketplace of ideas to get that person out of That

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Speaker 11: person is undermining the marketplace. To quote Chesterton, it's the

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Speaker 11: thought that stops thought. You can't it's it's you need

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Speaker 11: certain foundations in just like any marketplace, you need certain

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Speaker 11: rules and basic guidelines, or else you can't even speak.

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Speaker 13: I can't have a conversation with you. You're gonna threaten

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Speaker 13: to murder itself.

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Speaker 16: It's a deliberate misread of what cancel culture is. Of course,

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Speaker 16: this idea that you as an employer owe it to

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Speaker 16: an employee to continue to employ them after they post

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Speaker 16: in celebration of Charlie's murder. Yeah, of course you don't

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Speaker 16: have an obligation and continue signing a track who is

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Speaker 16: celebrating to somebody celebrations with murder, Like duh, that's that's

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Speaker 16: that's a basic aspect of freedom.

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Speaker 2: Also, there's no equivalents also because and this is this

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Speaker 2: is the really frustrating thing about this kind of the

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Speaker 2: rights engaging in cancel culture. Well, even even if I

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Speaker 2: accepted that framing, there's there's a difference here in the

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Speaker 2: kinds of things, the kinds of speech that are being

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Speaker 2: quote unquote canceled. You know, the left will cancel you

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Speaker 2: if you say that you know, men can't have babies.

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Speaker 2: That that's what cancel culture is. On the left, they'll

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Speaker 2: cancel you for saying things that are true and normal

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Speaker 2: and obvious. And on the right, to the extent that

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Speaker 2: anyone's being canceled, and it's not being done through force

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Speaker 2: of laws, certainly not through violence. It's just being done

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Speaker 2: through you know, free speech and people freedom of association.

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Speaker 2: But the extent anyone's getting canceled, they're getting it canceled

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Speaker 2: for saying things that are objectively vile and discussing phase

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Speaker 2: is illegal, right, and there's so there's just there's a

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Speaker 2: there's a fundamental difference, like society should treat those things differently.

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Speaker 10: We're gonna say we're gonna pause for radio. We're gonna

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Speaker 10: keep this going. We'll be right back, all right, welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 10: I so for this is for the stream. I mean,

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Speaker 10: let's just keep the conversation going, because this is too good.

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Speaker 10: And I love the point you're making because it's it's

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Speaker 10: truth versus a lie. It's and I think I hadn't

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Speaker 10: seen it put that way yet, Matt, and I think

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Speaker 10: it's really smart. So build it out more without without

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Speaker 10: a radio break gat in the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I just think I think that, Uh, when

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Speaker 2: we talk about the difference.

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Speaker 3: In in you know, canceling on.

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Speaker 2: The right or the left, there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: other differences too. I Mean one of the big differences

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Speaker 2: is that the right, uh, especially historically, you know, over

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Speaker 2: the over the last several decades, doesn't have the institutional

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Speaker 2: power that the left does. And so when the left

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Speaker 2: cancels you, they're using institutional power to do it.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're using big, big.

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Speaker 2: Tech platforms they're using there, you know, they're using these

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Speaker 2: big corporations there, so they they have they have that

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Speaker 2: insitu spode that that the right doesn't have. So there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of differences, but I think, I think

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Speaker 2: the most important difference again, it goes down to the

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Speaker 2: actual speech we're talking about. I mean, not all speech

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Speaker 2: is a exactly the same. There's there's a there is

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Speaker 2: just a difference. And so it is good. We should

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Speaker 2: in society react with revulsion to things that are revolting.

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Speaker 2: When someone says something revolting and disgusting, we should react

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Speaker 2: with revulsion and discussed. But when someone says something that

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Speaker 2: is good and normal, we should not react with revulsion.

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Speaker 10: And I think I've got you. Yeah, No, I mean

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Speaker 10: it's it's it's this common sense stuff that we all

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Speaker 10: know it, and yet somehow erupts into a debate on X.

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Speaker 16: I think that what happens is that everybody flattens out

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Speaker 16: these positions into the dumbest version of the argument. There's

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Speaker 16: a sort of pixelation that happens where it's like, well,

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Speaker 16: that means that I should be able to say anything

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Speaker 16: and no one should ever be angry at me, no

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Speaker 16: one should ever criticize me no matter what I say.

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Speaker 5: And if you do. That's a form of cancel culture.

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Speaker 16: And it's like, no, you've now reduced the argument to

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Speaker 16: the stupidest version of the argument. The argument that I

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Speaker 16: think all of us on the right we're trying to

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Speaker 16: make maybe sometimes in actually, but I think correctly, was

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Speaker 16: if you say a man is not a woman, that

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Speaker 16: is not a cancellable offense or should not be. And

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Speaker 16: yet that was a cancellable offense for half of our industry.

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Speaker 16: I mean legitimately, I mean, this is the thing that's

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Speaker 16: And there was an incident that happened his personal memory

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Speaker 16: from twenty fourteen where I was on CNN Headline News

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Speaker 16: and there was a transgender identifying person, a very large

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Speaker 16: male transgender identifying person with extraordinary large female hands, and

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Speaker 16: I only remember the size of the hands because I

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Speaker 16: grabbed by the back of the neck during that television interview,

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Speaker 16: because I had the temerity to call him sir and

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Speaker 16: ask about his genetics. And the entire panel immediately responded

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Speaker 16: by rushing to the defense of the person who is

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Speaker 16: doing the physical assault on camera. And that is the

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Speaker 16: predicate to all of this. There are permission structures that

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Speaker 16: have been created on the left for violence and these

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Speaker 16: permission structures are deeply evil, and they are not the

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Speaker 16: same thing as saying a man is not a woman,

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Speaker 16: like if you are, if you are. Some of the

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Speaker 16: people who we've been watching, we haven't played any of

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Speaker 16: their tapes because they don't frankly deserve the airtime who

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Speaker 16: are out there and making statements about how Charlie deserved

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Speaker 16: what he was going to get or other people. The

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Speaker 16: New York Times featured a twitch streamer he has spent

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Speaker 16: his days for the last several years defending terrorism, violently

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Speaker 16: threatening people and calling for violence, and The New York

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Speaker 16: Times featured that person in the pages of The New

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Speaker 16: York Times. Are we not supposed to react to that

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Speaker 16: with revulsion? As Matt says, of course we should react

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Speaker 16: to that with revulsion. It's not the same thing, you

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Speaker 16: know what, the same.

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Speaker 11: We have to recognize the left and the right when

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Speaker 11: people have, as you point out, what's often a degraded

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Speaker 11: debate about speech, you have to begin with something. You

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Speaker 11: can't think from nothing, you can't speak from nothing. You

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Speaker 11: have to begin with basic truths and like men and

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Speaker 11: women are different, for instance, or basic moral goods. C. S.

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Speaker 11: Lewis called this the now others have called it the

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Speaker 11: natural law or the first principles of practical reason. It's

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Speaker 11: like in math you have to start with an axiom

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Speaker 11: equals a, A plus equals. People say, it's not that

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Speaker 11: you can prove those things, but you can't prove anything

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Speaker 11: else without those things. If we now deny that murder

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Speaker 11: is wrong, we're past reason.

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Speaker 10: We're gonna welcome back radio in just a second, so

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Speaker 10: it don't go anywhere, all right, Welcome back to the

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Speaker 10: Charlie Kirk Show. I just want to say again, guys,

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Speaker 10: thank you for making the trip here. You know, you

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Speaker 10: guys were so gracious about I mean, it was you

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Speaker 10: were just like anything we could do, you know, can

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Speaker 10: we do more?

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Speaker 4: Can we do more?

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Speaker 10: And we felt that love and we feel that love,

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Speaker 10: and you know, so just thank you again because I know,

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Speaker 10: getting the three of you in the same spot were

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Speaker 10: like each.

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Speaker 13: Other, getting us to voluntarily be around each other.

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Speaker 3: But what we all.

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Speaker 11: Would You know, We've been talking to a lot of

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Speaker 11: our friends in the conservative movement, just in the braad

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Speaker 11: to American culture, and right now it feels that not

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Speaker 11: just the beating heart of the conservative movement or the

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Speaker 11: Republican Party, but it does feel like the beating heart

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Speaker 11: of America is in Phoenix right now. That's a TPUSA

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Speaker 11: and so this this is the place to be. And

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Speaker 11: however anyone can help. Some people can help by spreading

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Speaker 11: the word, starting a chapter, sending a donation, do it

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Speaker 11: whatever they can do. Though, this is this is where

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Speaker 11: it's at right now.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you for saying that.

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Speaker 10: And I also want you guys to know that, you know,

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Speaker 10: Erica feels that too. I talked to Erica multiple times

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Speaker 10: a day as we're just you know, because on top

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Speaker 10: of the show, dude, it was sort of you know,

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Speaker 10: I don't think people realize this. I was originally like,

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Speaker 10: comm's pr you know, dealing with incoming on Charlie, and

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Speaker 10: then we started the show and so I still have

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Speaker 10: I still wear two hats, and you know, Charlie would

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Speaker 10: do this and then he would go run Turning Point,

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Speaker 10: and it was sort of we just kind of did

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Speaker 10: it together when we when we built this part out.

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Speaker 10: It's kind of like our side hob which became this

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Speaker 10: moment every day to sharpen ideas. And by the way,

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Speaker 10: when you talk about how Charlie leveled up, it was

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Speaker 10: this microphone you know that that did that for him

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Speaker 10: because the number of reps he was putting in every day,

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Speaker 10: he was sharpening and sharpening and sharpening, and and we

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Speaker 10: had the sounding board and these these chats that we have,

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Speaker 10: you know, I'll never delete. I'm gonna you know where

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Speaker 10: where we're working through. You know, this new news cycle

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Speaker 10: came up and we got to figure out how to

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Speaker 10: navigate it. And every day doing that, you're just sharpening

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Speaker 10: your mind, sharpening your mind so that when he would

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Speaker 10: go on campus, it would it would come out the

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Speaker 10: way it did. And it was amazing how his life

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Speaker 10: was like that, where every piece of it fed into

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Speaker 10: the next where you know, this show would feed into

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Speaker 10: the campus events, which I'm now gonna call basically campus

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Speaker 10: tent revivals.

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Speaker 4: It just it occurred to me this morning. I was like,

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Speaker 4: that's what they were.

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Speaker 10: And you you start realizing he buried this stuff in

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Speaker 10: the in this political conversation, but he was telling people

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Speaker 10: to follow Jesus, repent and be saved. You know, listen

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Speaker 10: to the gospel. God wants so much more from you.

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Speaker 10: He wants you to be part of something bigger. It

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Speaker 10: was a tent revival and thousands came thousands came and yeah,

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Speaker 10: they cast a ballot when it came time in November,

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Speaker 10: God blessed them.

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Speaker 16: Was that was a good That was just because it

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Speaker 16: was innocent and it was fun and it was just

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Speaker 16: basically true. You know some of the pushback that people

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Speaker 16: kept giving Charlie, which was, you know, why is he

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Speaker 16: going to college campuses and talking to people? And Charlie

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Speaker 16: would answer that r I mean, he said, because that's

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Speaker 16: where the people are. You got to talk to the people, right,

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Speaker 16: I mean, it's pretty simple. But they would say, well,

875
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 16: you know in his debates, he's what has he even doing.

876
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 16: All Charlie did was asked extremely simple questions that people

877
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 16: on the other side could not answer.

878
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 5: They couldn't.

879
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 16: I mean, that's why the ten set, the revival ten

880
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 16: set on It proved me wrong because people had a

881
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 16: very difficult time, as it turns out, proving truth wrong

882
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 16: because it was true and Charlie was uniquely capable of

883
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 16: speaking to that truth. I know, we haven't played any clips.

884
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 16: They have another hour I would love to play. Yeah,

885
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 16: let's do put thirty eight where Charlie is talking to

886
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 16: young men because they they really are in need of

887
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 16: this advice.

888
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 10: This is going to live for a studio play cut

889
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,959
Speaker 10: thirty eight.

890
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: I don't give advice to young women on how to

891
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: find a man. I will say to young men, get

892
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: your act together and really make self control and self

893
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 1: discipline a priority in your life. One of the reasons

894
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: why so many young women are upset with the dating pool.

895
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: I hear this all the time, is that they see

896
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: men that can't control themselves. And as you can tell,

897
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: the young ladies are very enthusiastic about hearing this. And

898
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 1: by the way, here's a thought crime for you. Women

899
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: want to be led. Women want to be led by

900
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: strong men, and.

901
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: You will.

902
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: Men are different than women, and women are different than men,

903
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: and both need each other.

904
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 16: By the way, I mean, that's true, and you know

905
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 16: it sounds when he says it, and then you think

906
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 16: for more than twenty seconds, and it turns out that

907
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 16: it's just true. And Charlie had a unique gift in

908
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 16: clarifying and crystallizing that truth and then weaponizing the truth

909
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 16: and delivering it out there in viral fashion, which is

910
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 16: why again, tens of millions of people are more his way,

911
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 16: Giant marches chanting his name in South Korea and London

912
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 16: and you have a and squares being dedicated to him

913
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 16: in Israel and Zealand, marches and like all over the world.

914
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 16: People are mourning Charlie in a way that I think

915
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 16: would have as frankly, I think would have astonished Charlie

916
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 16: if he'd, like you knew him much better than I

917
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 16: knew him, I think it.

918
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 4: Would have blown his mind.

919
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 10: We knew that Charlie was getting uncomfortably freakishly famous his

920
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 10: name idea. Some polster did it for us without us

921
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 10: knowing and told us afterwards it was like, you know,

922
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 10: I think, you know I want this little nugget. I'm

923
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 10: going to say for the stream second. We got it,

924
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 10: I think hour one of radio. But we're gonna keep

925
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 10: the conversation going for a little bit and we'll be

926
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 10: right back.

927
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 2: And he never he never asked for any credit for that.

928
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 2: I mean, he is the reason that Trump got elected,

929
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: but I never heard him ever say that. You know,

930
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: he and this is in our in our business, you know,

931
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: you've got everybody always wants credit for everything.

932
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 13: I think I was actually the first person to tell

933
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 13: you that.

934
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, uh.

935
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: But so for for Charlie to have that level of influence,

936
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: but but to never play it. In fact, he did

937
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 2: the opposite. He was he would deflect credit. He would

938
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 2: give it to other people.

939
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 10: You're the perfect example for that, because you had that

940
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 10: incredible documentary what is a Woman and the Question? Charlie

941
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 10: took it and ran with it in such an amazing way,

942
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 10: and he would alway be like, I gotta get credit

943
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 10: to Matt Walsh, like he would go out of his way.

944
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 10: And I know he messaged you privately a lot saying like, oh,

945
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 10: you're doing amazing, this was so good or whatever. But

946
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 10: you know, he gave you a lot of credit for that.

947
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 10: And I think I saw you at the inauguration at

948
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 10: some event I remember, and I made it a point

949
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 10: being like, I want you to know he he really

950
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 10: like respects the heck out of you.

951
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he gave me far too much credit. Is

952
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: one of the few times I disagreed with him when

953
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 2: is when he would when he would do that. But

954
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: I do remember I mentioned it on air a couple

955
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: days ago that after after the election, that that Charlie

956
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: made a point, I mean, he had just had this

957
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: huge victory that that he was the pivotal player in it,

958
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: and he made this point of putting out a tweet

959
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: to give me some small token of credit because of

960
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 2: on the trans issue. And I just remember thinking again

961
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 2: that that's too much credit.

962
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: But but also nobody does.

963
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: That, no one ever, especially when you just had a

964
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: huge victory and you're thinking, who can I who can

965
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 2: I give this credit to? No one does that. He's

966
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: he's like one of the very few guys I know.

967
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 10: You know, I'll give you an insight on that, because

968
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 10: you know, there was a lot of people that would

969
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 10: chirp at Charlie or attack and he you had to

970
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 10: be I mean, you know, a certain level of doing

971
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 10: something wrong for him to name you, to put you,

972
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 10: to name check you, and that was usually like, oh,

973
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,479
Speaker 10: you're you know, trying to you know, come at Pete.

974
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 4: Hegseth and he's our boy.

975
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 10: So if you're coming in the way of Pete, then

976
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 10: then there might be there might be a point. But

977
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 10: but other than very very specific instances. And I had

978
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 10: a really long conversation with Charlie about this, and he

979
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 10: was talking about sort of how the Greeks sort of

980
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 10: had a hierarchy of virtues, but not not just sad

981
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 10: it was like Roles and he put being an entertainer.

982
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 10: No offense to you guys, because I think you guys

983
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 10: are all much more than that. But he put being

984
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 10: an entertainer, and I think the Greeks did too, like

985
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 10: the actors, and I was.

986
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 13: Really low criminals and prostitutes.

987
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was really low on their list.

988
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 10: What they put high was being a philosopher, it was

989
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 10: being a theologian, was being a statesman. And I remember

990
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 10: Charlie very clearly saying, our job is to keep the

991
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 10: coalition together. Yep, our job is to be these three.

992
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 10: He's like a lot of people can do that. He's like,

993
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 10: we have to do this because you know, it was

994
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 10: so easy and so tempting to get infuriated when these

995
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 10: pot shots would come over and nobody knew the work

996
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 10: that we were doing, and he was doing behind the

997
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,959
Speaker 10: scenes to sort of like assuage this person or bring

998
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 10: this person back, or you know, make sure that they

999
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 10: felt I mean, there was.

1000
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 4: A lot of that going on.

1001
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 13: To me, that is the skill.

1002
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 11: And actually that is different from certainly than entertainment, it's

1003
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 11: even different from philosophy. There are a million dimes to philosophers.

1004
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 11: A lot of people who have a brilliant idea and

1005
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 11: just ask them, you know, and they'll give you their

1006
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 11: white paper on it. There are very very few people

1007
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 11: who can build a coalition, and fewer people still who

1008
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 11: can maintain a coalition. The only other example I can

1009
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 11: think of in modern politics is Trump, who holds these

1010
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 11: disparate parts together, and Charlie was the glue. It is

1011
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 11: unbelievable the friendships he could maintain, the pieces that he

1012
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 11: could broker for the common good, for a common purpose

1013
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,479
Speaker 11: that there is simply no comparison. And when you're looking

1014
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 11: at elections, when you're looking at moving the ball forward

1015
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 11: in the country, it was the most important thing.

1016
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 10: I totally agree, and I want to I promised you

1017
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 10: guys a by the way, that was a very Charlie thing,

1018
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 10: because Charlie would always be like this, and so I'd

1019
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 10: catch him where he.

1020
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 4: Wasn't like fully like to. Yeah, it was great, by

1021
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 4: the way, that's real. He was. He answered all of

1022
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 4: his audience questions.

1023
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 13: Did he actually answer Did he actually read all the questions?

1024
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah he did.

1025
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 10: I'm not even kidding he read them because I saw

1026
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 10: him going to believe the read unread. Anyways, I promise

1027
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 10: you guys a quick break we'll be right back when

1028
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 10: radio starts. So more with Michael Knowles, Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro.

1029
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 10: Honoring our friend Charlie Kirk. All right, welcome back to

1030
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 10: the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm your guest host for the day,

1031
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 10: Andrew Covid, executive producer of this fine show. That's how

1032
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 10: I always said it, and we are welcome every you know,

1033
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 10: it's just it's a I'm honored to be here with

1034
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 10: our friends, Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles, and Matt Walsh. And Matt,

1035
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 10: I wanted to pay tribute to you because it just

1036
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,959
Speaker 10: became such a big part of the tour. I wanted

1037
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 10: to at least play one of those those videos that

1038
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 10: you helped inspire with Charlie. Play cut sixty eight.

1039
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 5: What is a woman?

1040
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 4: It's a person who believes they're a woman. No, but

1041
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 4: that that's not a definition.

1042
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: What objectively is a woman?

1043
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 11: No?

1044
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 3: What is that? Give me a definition?

1045
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 5: Just anyone who believes they're a woman.

1046
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 3: No, but what is that? It's that's circular reasoning. What

1047
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 3: is a woman?

1048
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: Without using the word woman in the answer, can you

1049
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: can you answer that question or no?

1050
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 4: It's just a person who believes they're a woman?

1051
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 8: I mean, what's wrong with that?

1052
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: You can't answer the question, you can't use the word

1053
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: woman in your answer. The inability to answer the most fundamental,

1054
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: obvious biological question, what is a woman? This is not troubling,

1055
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: Like it's so simple, it's so obvious. And I guess

1056
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: the question is when is womanhood then achieved?

1057
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 4: Just like for that whenever they decide, I mean.

1058
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: Like, last chance, can you tell me what a woman is?

1059
00:55:50,920 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: Are you a woman? Why are you so hateful?

1060
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: I asked you what a woman was.

1061
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 3: That's not hateful. I gave you the definition. Thank you

1062
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 3: for your time.

1063
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't seen that one in a long time.

1064
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: That never gets old.

1065
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 10: It never gets old yet what did what did we

1066
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 10: just witnessed there?

1067
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 4: And why was it?

1068
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: Well, it's the I mean, it's the question that still

1069
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: the question of of a generation that's still they still

1070
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: they've had they've had now uh several years to figure

1071
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: out a good answer to that, and they still haven't

1072
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 2: haven't quite gotten there. And I you know, I always

1073
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: loved seeing that that and.

1074
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 3: And I would I would certainly do.

1075
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: I know we all did the same thing with Charlie

1076
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: that he that he would he would stumble on like

1077
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 2: a certain point or a way of phrasing it, and

1078
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 2: you go, that's great, I gotta go use that.

1079
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 3: Of course you get you always got to give credit.

1080
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 10: But that was the uh, well not always because sometimes

1081
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 10: Charlie would be like, I'm gonna steal that.

1082
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 4: Dontorry, Like, I'll give attribution.

1083
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 3: As long as long as.

1084
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: You're at thirty four percent attribution, you're fine. But that

1085
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 2: kind of goes back to, you know, I hate to

1086
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 2: drag it, drag it back down to the depressing stuff,

1087
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: but that that goes back to what we've lost is

1088
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: like this, this kind of give and take, this we're

1089
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: we're we're building off of each other, and and we've.

1090
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 3: Lost that now.

1091
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 2: I also wanted to say, just real quick that and

1092
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Speaker 2: I've made this point a couple of times on my

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Speaker 2: show and on X some stuff. But we've been talking

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Speaker 2: about all the tributes to Charlie and all the people

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Speaker 2: that love him, and and what a testament that is

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Speaker 2: to him and his character and his his effectiveness and

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Speaker 2: all that is true, and that that is the greatest

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Speaker 2: testament to the man. Is that is that millions of

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Speaker 2: people are our mourning is lost. But I also do think,

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Speaker 2: and I and I and I don't we shouldn't lose

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Speaker 2: sight of this. That the people, all the people on

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Speaker 2: the other side who are celebrating his death and dancing

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Speaker 2: on his grave. It's infuriating to see. It's disgusting. It

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Speaker 2: enrages me. But also that is a testament and a

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Speaker 2: tribute to Charlie as well. And and and and when

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Speaker 2: I die, you know, I would like to think the

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Speaker 2: same thing is going to happen, because that means that

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Speaker 2: that that I was effective. You know that you're your

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Speaker 2: your enemies. If you are a warrior, and Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 2: was a warrior, he was. He's a peaceful warrior. He's

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Speaker 2: a happy warrior. He's nonviolent, but he was a warrior.

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Speaker 2: If you're a warrior, then your enemies should celebrate when

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Speaker 2: you're no longer there, when you're out of the arena,

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Speaker 2: they should be happy because that means that that you

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Speaker 2: were winning. You know that that means that you were

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Speaker 2: punching hard. And so so we should we should all

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Speaker 2: want that for ourselves. If if when we're no longer here,

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Speaker 2: if our enemies couldn't care less just another day at

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Speaker 2: the office for them, then that means we didn't punch

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Speaker 2: hard enough. That means we didn't fight hard enough. And

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Speaker 2: so I do also see that as a testament.

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Speaker 10: So can I ask you, all three of you a question?

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Speaker 10: What are you going to do next? I mean, nobody

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Speaker 10: can replace Charlie. We know it's gonna tell.

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Speaker 4: I guess the question is, how's this changed you? What

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Speaker 4: practical things I mean you got you're gonna be YEA.

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Speaker 11: I have a real answer to this, which is I

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Speaker 11: owed Charlie a text because unlike Charlie, I was not

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Speaker 11: diligent or fastidious.

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Speaker 13: About these things.

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Speaker 11: He was just unbelievably good at constantly be in touch

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Speaker 11: with people. So I owed him a text a few

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Speaker 11: days a prior. But I thought, well, whatever, I'm gonna

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Speaker 11: see him. I'm gonna see him a couple of weeks

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Speaker 11: because he and I were scheduled to speak together at

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Speaker 11: the University of Minneapolis, or as he called it, Mogadishu

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Speaker 11: in twelve days twelve days after it happened. And so

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Speaker 11: it happens, and then you know, you're in a fog,

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Speaker 11: and then you're you're getting the news, and then you

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Speaker 11: and then later this popped into my head. I said, oh,

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Speaker 11: my good I was supposed to do an event with

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Speaker 11: Charlie we can have from now. And so your first

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Speaker 11: instinct is, well, there's no way that that event can

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Speaker 11: go on. That's your just whenever something like this happens.

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Speaker 11: But then two seconds later you say, there's no way

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Speaker 11: it can't go on, especially given this man, especially given

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Speaker 11: this movement that he built and everything that he stood for.

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Speaker 11: He said, there's no way that we can cancel that,

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Speaker 11: and so I said, well, look, this is a decision

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Speaker 11: for TPUSA to make, and you can speak to it more.

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Speaker 11: But it seems to me that the tenor around here

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Speaker 11: is we've just lost the leader, this irreplaceable man, and

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Speaker 11: we don't even necessarily want to keep going on, but

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Speaker 11: we have to do it.

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Speaker 10: Well, yeah, and that's why we did our Friday show,

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Speaker 10: and if I could, you know, I was not in

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Speaker 10: a good place and still not good place, but I

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01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 10: knew we had to do it because Charlie would want

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Speaker 10: us to do it. And I kind of likened it

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Speaker 10: to what happened at you know, Pentecost a little bit,

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Speaker 10: because what happened was Charlie died and his followers, his

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Speaker 10: team is staff. I mean, it was we were trying

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Speaker 10: to make sense of the chaos. Part of the team

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Speaker 10: was in Provo, part of the team was in Phoenix,

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Speaker 10: and we were trying to just just put one foot

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Speaker 10: in front of the other. And then Erica got up

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Speaker 10: and spoke to the world and it was like that

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Speaker 10: was like our Pentecost where and all of a sudden

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Speaker 10: we were.

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Speaker 4: Filled with courage.

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Speaker 10: And I don't think that was just us on the team.

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Speaker 10: I think the whole country watched it, and I think

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Speaker 10: that's why, you know, I think Hannity.

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Speaker 4: Played it, why he played it a second time.

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Speaker 10: From top to bottom, and I was I was incredibly

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Speaker 10: grateful for that editorial decision, and I think people wanted

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Speaker 10: it and needed it, and Erica was so brave. And

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Speaker 10: I can just tell you we have been inundated from

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Speaker 10: the grassroots, these young kids. We're probably at forty thousand

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Speaker 10: knew maybe more new chapter request to start new chapters.

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Speaker 10: And I've said this on doing media hits to put

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Speaker 10: that in perspective. We had nine hundred college chapters and

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Speaker 10: twelve hundred high school chapters, and Charlie just a few

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Speaker 10: weeks ago was like, We're going to be on every

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Speaker 10: high school in America. We're going to do thirty five

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Speaker 10: and a thousand, and I was like, I googled it.

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Speaker 10: I go, Charlie, there's only twenty three thousand high school.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna be on twenty three thousand.

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Speaker 13: We're gonna high school.

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Speaker 10: And you know, the whole team's like, Charlie, you know,

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Speaker 10: And eventually he goes, okay, fine, you know, we'll do fifteen.

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Speaker 10: And then he tells the guy who's building the slide

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Speaker 10: because this is a presentation because you can put ten,

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Speaker 10: but makes him think he's doing fifteen. And he was

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Speaker 10: so committed to putting a Club America, which is our

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Speaker 10: high school brand, on every single American high school. And

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Speaker 10: I just marvel because that is such a fresh memory.

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Speaker 10: It's two weeks ago that we had this, and I

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Speaker 10: just marveled that now in death, he is going to

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Speaker 10: absolutely accelerate that mission, that goal so much faster than

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Speaker 10: he could have ever possibly imagined. And that was the

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Speaker 10: Charlie is more more. Let's do more. We have to

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Speaker 10: go harder, we have to go faster more. And the

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Speaker 10: whole team knows that, and he was just and he

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Speaker 10: covered it all in this amazing grace, and I just

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Speaker 10: want to give you some kudos here. I want to

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Speaker 10: make sure I have enough time to the Daily Wire.

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Speaker 10: I just found out that The Daily Wire is donating

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Speaker 10: a million dollars to TPUSA, and I, from the bottom

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Speaker 10: of my heart, thank.

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Speaker 4: You guys so much.

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Speaker 10: I'm blown away by that generosity.

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Speaker 4: And I know Erica is.

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Speaker 5: Too our pleasure easiest port decision.

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Speaker 4: God bless you guys.

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Speaker 10: That's breaking news and an amazing, amazing gesture of confidence

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Speaker 10: in what Charlie built and what we are going to

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Speaker 10: keep moving forward and growing and multiplying.

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 7: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 7: Terrence Bates defy an FBI Director. Cash Patel sits before

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Speaker 7: the Senate Judiciary Committee to answer questions about everything from

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Speaker 7: his agency's investigation of Charlie Kirk's assassination to the inner

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Speaker 7: workings of the Bureau and.

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Speaker 15: In closing, mister Chairman and members of the Committee and

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Speaker 15: Ranking Member Durbin, I'm honored to be the ninth director

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Speaker 15: of the FBI. I'm not going anywhere. If you want

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Speaker 15: to criticize my sixteen years of service, please bring it

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Speaker 15: on over to you.

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Speaker 7: During his testimony, Patel promised that the Bureau will continue

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Speaker 7: its quest for transparency. As for the investigation into Charlie

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Speaker 7: Kirk's murder, Patel appla what did the cooperative work happening

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Speaker 7: between his agents and state and local law enforcement in Utah?

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Speaker 3: Quote?

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Speaker 7: Tyler Robinson is in custody today because of this partnership.

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Speaker 7: Speaking of Tyler Robinson, He's expected to be officially charged

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Speaker 7: with capital murder as soon as today. His initial court

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Speaker 7: appearance is scheduled for later today by video from his cell.

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Speaker 7: We're expecting a news conference and confirming the charges here

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Speaker 7: this afternoon. On Monday, FBI Director Cash Betel confirming the

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Speaker 7: twenty two year old suspects DNA was found on a

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Speaker 7: towel that was wrapped around the rifle believed to have

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Speaker 7: been used to kill Charlie Kirk. Investigators also saying they

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Speaker 7: have DNA evidence linking the alleged assassin to a screwdriver

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Speaker 7: that was found in the rooftop where the deadly shot

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Speaker 7: was fired. Plus, the FBI director says the suspect wrote

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Speaker 7: a text message before the shooting saying that he had

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Speaker 7: planned to kill Kirk. Investigators also believed the guy wrote

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Speaker 7: a physical note saying that it had the opportunity that

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Speaker 7: if he had the opportunity need to take out Charlie,

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Speaker 7: he would do so. That note was reportedly destroyed, but

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Speaker 7: investigators were able to reconstruct it. Director Patel, as I said,

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Speaker 7: was on Capitol Hill earlier today facing lots of questions

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Speaker 7: from the Senior Judiciary Committee. We of course will have

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Speaker 7: continuing coverage of that hearing throughout the day here on

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Speaker 7: Real America's Voice. That's going to do it for your headlines.

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Speaker 14: I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirkshow.

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Speaker 10: I'm Andrew Colvett, the executive producer of this show, and

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Speaker 10: once again we're honored to be with our friends Michael Knowles,

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Speaker 10: Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, and we were talking in the

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Speaker 10: break Ben, you noticed something. You picked something up about

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Speaker 10: that clip that we showed of Charlie where he's asking

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Speaker 10: what is a woman?

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Speaker 4: What is a woman?

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Speaker 3: What is a woman?

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Speaker 4: Pause? Why are you so hateful?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 16: And we all laugh because it's inherently ridiculous because Charlie

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01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 16: obviously is not being hateful. But that I think when

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Speaker 16: when you know, I think we're all feeling Matt's visceral rage,

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Speaker 16: or at least if we're not, we should be. And

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Speaker 16: the question is where to direct it. And I think

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Speaker 16: that that visceral rage has to be directed at the

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Speaker 16: ideological frameworks that create the impetus for violence. In that statement,

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Speaker 16: when she says, why are you so hateful? That's kind

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Speaker 16: of the whole thing. The reason I say that is

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Speaker 16: because there is a basic framework for idea. There's been

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Speaker 16: this flattening where we pretend that all ideologies are equally

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Speaker 16: likely to create violence. There's a favorite of the media, right,

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Speaker 16: it's just or politicians. Political violence is bad. However, it's

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Speaker 16: form of political violence. Sides both sides everyone's doing. Here's

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Speaker 16: the thing. We all know which ideologies. Everyone knows which

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Speaker 16: ideologies are most likely.

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Speaker 4: We are not burning down the country.

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Speaker 10: We're not burning that, we're not burning down businesses, we're

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Speaker 10: not throwing rocks police, We're praying.

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Speaker 5: Correct And let's be real about this.

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Speaker 16: The minute, literally the minute I heard that Charlie was shot,

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Speaker 16: I don't know about you guys, but I had some

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Speaker 16: pretty good suspicions as to what ideology was behind the

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Speaker 16: murder of our friend.

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Speaker 13: It's always the ones you most expect.

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Speaker 16: Well, and so the question is why, right, The question

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Speaker 16: is why, and the answer is because there is a

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Speaker 16: framework of mind that has been created in which people

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Speaker 16: claim that there is the problems in their own life.

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Speaker 16: And this is what Charlie stood against r because Charlie

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Speaker 16: was constantly talking about personal responsibility and making your life

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Speaker 16: better and take your life in your own hands and

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Speaker 16: you can be a success.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 16: That's like clip we played earlier for men like be better.

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Speaker 16: Better if you are a person who takes the failures

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Speaker 16: in your own life and you externalize those onto a

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Speaker 16: shadowy group of people who are responsible for all of

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01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 16: your failures, and then you say, those people are victimizing

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Speaker 16: me to the point where they are genocide erasing me

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01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 16: trans erasure, right, transgenocide. And then you say, well, if

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Speaker 16: those people are trying to kill me, it's self defense.

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Speaker 5: Right, speech is violence.

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Speaker 16: It's self defense for me to shoot somebody like Charlie

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Speaker 16: Kirk for saying that when she says, why are you

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Speaker 16: so hateful? The reason she is perceiving fact as hate

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01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 16: is because it is a denial of her sense of

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01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 16: identity and a sense of threat that is now justifying violence.

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Speaker 16: That is the reality there's an undergirding to some of

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Speaker 16: these ideologies, particularly this ideology that has violent extremism as

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01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 16: an after effect. That's just a reality. And there are

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Speaker 16: multiple ideologies that are that are like this. I think

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Speaker 16: that the Bilm ideology had aspects of this, for sure.

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Speaker 16: I think radical Islam, as Charlie routinely talked about, particularly

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Speaker 16: in the last couple of weeks before his murder, Radical

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Speaker 16: Islam obviously is deeply ensconced in the sort of conspiracy

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Speaker 16: theory about our failure is the fault of all these

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Speaker 16: other people. These people are trying to harm us, therefore

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Speaker 16: we are justified in doing violence to them. And when

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Speaker 16: I see the New York Times trotting out Hassan Piker repeatedly,

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Speaker 16: now this is like the second time repeatedly to talk

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Speaker 16: about Charlie's murder as though he is the representative of

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01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 16: good faith debate when he is back.

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Speaker 5: To every terror group. But I can I can imagine and.

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Speaker 16: Legitimately openly called for South American Deserve nine to eleven

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01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 16: has openly talked about how his political opposition should be

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Speaker 16: physically harmed.

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Speaker 10: You're you're a lawyer, right, I mean, when does it

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Speaker 10: cross the line into incitement. Does it has to be

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Speaker 10: when a specific name has to be used, Because this

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01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 10: this is relevant to what happened with Pam Bondi and

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Speaker 10: all the clip that's I mean, you know she was saying,

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Speaker 10: she basically said hate speech is illegal, and Charlie, I mean,

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Speaker 10: I think she ended up clarifying later to her credit

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Speaker 10: that the clip is I'm told is incomplete. She ended

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01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 10: up quoting incitement, right, Mike Michael looks.

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Speaker 2: If you're just saying that threats and incitement are illegal,

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Speaker 2: of course they are.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to say hate.

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Speaker 5: Speech, no exactly, So that for things I don't like, yeah, I.

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Speaker 10: Mean, but it ties into it ties into what happens

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Speaker 10: next here. And that's why I'm asking because a lot

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01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 10: of people, you know, there was a push to sort

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01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 10: of smoke out all these people that were criticizing or

1353
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 10: that we're dancing on the grave rather and that's perfectly

1354
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 10: fair social consequence, but not a legal one. When does

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Speaker 10: it become a legal consequence?

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Speaker 16: So I think that what they've been attempting to do,

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Speaker 16: and Cash Pattel is apparently talking about this is labeling

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Speaker 16: Antifa terrorist group, which absolutely they should be. I mean,

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Speaker 16: clearly they should be at this point and that if

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Speaker 16: there are people who are funding groups that are violent,

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Speaker 16: then we should obviously be looking into them, probably under

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01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 16: racketeering laws and conspiracy laws. If you are donating money

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Speaker 16: to a ex Mormon transferry group that is openly planning violence,

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Speaker 16: then you should be held legally accountable for that in

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Speaker 16: the way that you would be as we all know

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Speaker 16: if it were a white supremacist group and you were

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Speaker 16: funding a whit supremacist group, we all know that that

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Speaker 16: would be investigated by the FBI.

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Speaker 10: And I don't mean to step step on with your

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Speaker 10: point here, but I just want to underscore why what

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Speaker 10: you're saying is so critical, and I want the audience

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Speaker 10: to understand that is because one of Charlie's best friends

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Speaker 10: in the at administration was Steven Miller. And Steven Miller

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Speaker 10: came on our show yesterday. I think he said the

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01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 10: same thing on Hannity. The last text message and there's

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01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 10: so many prophetic little nuggets, guys, I wish I could

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Speaker 10: share them all. The last text message he shared with

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Speaker 10: Stephen Miller was we have to root out the people

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Speaker 10: that are funding the violence.

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Speaker 13: What we're talking about here is organized.

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Speaker 4: C Yeah, we're going to break.

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Speaker 10: But it's this will not go away, because Steven's a

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01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 10: dog with a bone right back.

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Speaker 3: That your very existence.

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Speaker 2: Hinges on the acceptance and affirmation of other people. And

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Speaker 2: so you're not just like your identity, but your life itself,

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01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 2: your very life, your very existence depends on other people

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01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 2: affirming it. And if they don't affirm it, then have

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Speaker 2: caused you to not exist. And to those of us

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Speaker 2: who are saying that sounds it sounds crazy, we can't

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Speaker 2: wrap our minds around that. That's what these people believe.

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Speaker 2: That's what the ideology teaches. It's what the media has

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Speaker 2: been saying, it's what the schools have been saying. It's

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Speaker 2: what it's a democrat politician is what the It's what

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Speaker 2: the president.

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01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 3: Used to say in under the old regime.

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Speaker 2: This is the message that used to come from the

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Speaker 2: White House all the way on down that if you

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Speaker 2: do not affirm these people, and that is to say,

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01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 2: accept their their delusional perceptive perception of their own of themselves,

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Speaker 2: then you are killing them.

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Speaker 3: And so when you go.

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Speaker 2: To people who are already in the throes of this violent,

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01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 2: inherently violent, violent ideology, they're already delusional they're very they're

1405
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Speaker 2: deeply confused.

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Speaker 3: And then you tell them.

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Speaker 2: That, hey, those people over there, if they don't accept

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01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 2: everything you say about yourself, they are killing you. They

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01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 2: are a threat to you. They're committing genocide. They use

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01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: that word transgenocide, and they use that label against Charlie.

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Speaker 2: They've used it against me, they've used it against YouTube.

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Speaker 2: That is not now We kind of laugh it off

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01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 2: because it's silly. It's ridiculous genocide. What the hell are

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01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 2: you talking about. They the people that they're telling that

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Speaker 2: to believe it.

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Speaker 3: They believe that we are.

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Speaker 2: Literally committing a genocide against them. And so when you

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Speaker 2: do that, when you go and tell people these people,

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Speaker 2: if they don't offer me, they're killing you.

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Speaker 3: They're committing a genocide.

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01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 2: And then one of those people goes and kills one

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01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 2: of the people that you made that claim about, it

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01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 2: is one hundred percent also your fault.

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01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 3: You intentionally caused that.

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Speaker 2: You You might as well have just told them, hey,

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Speaker 2: go kill that guy, because that is in effect, that

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Speaker 2: is what you said to them.

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Speaker 3: And that has been the message. It can't be stressed enough.

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Speaker 2: That has been the message, not just from the left

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01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 2: wing fever swamps on the Internet, but all from the

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01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 2: very top of the Democrat leftist pyramid on down.

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Speaker 3: That has been the message. And so they they own this.

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Speaker 10: And by the way, this individual, I mean to say

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Speaker 10: his name, I you know, I chant, you are my

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01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 10: rage outlet. So just to keep rage tweeting, please because

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01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 10: but you know, he was bragging about it, and and

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01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 10: before it happened, he was saying there was people with

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01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 10: foreknowledge and they didn't come out, So shame on them.

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Speaker 4: I hope they burn in hell. Will be right back.

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Speaker 6: Said this before, but there's repeating. The last message that

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01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 6: Charlie sent me was I think it was just the

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01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 6: day before we lost him, which is that we need

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01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 6: to have an organized strategy to go after the lefting

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01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 6: organizations that are promoting violence in this country. And I

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01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 6: will write those words onto my heart and I will

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01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 6: carry them out. If people ask me, you know what

1447
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 6: emotions I'm feeling right now, this is something people say,

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01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 6: I mean, you kind of know the answer. There's incredible sadness,

1449
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 6: but there's incredible anger. And the thing about anger is

1450
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 6: that unfocused anger or blind rage is not a productive emotion.

1451
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 6: But focused anger, righteous anger, directed for a just cause,

1452
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 6: is one of the most important agents of change in

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01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 6: human history. I'll probably and we are going to channel

1454
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:57,480
Speaker 6: all of the anger that we have over the organized

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01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:02,480
Speaker 6: campaign that led to the assassination to uproot and dismantle

1456
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 6: these terrorist networks. So let me explain a bit of

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01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 6: what that means.

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01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 4: So thirty seconds quick, Steven.

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Speaker 6: The organized docs and campaigns, the organized riots, the organized

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01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:18,520
Speaker 6: street violence, the organized campaigns of dehumanization, vilification, posting people's addresses,

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01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 6: combining that with messaging this design to trigger inside violence,

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01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 6: and the actual organized cells that carry out and facilitate

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01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 6: the violence. It is a vast domestic terror movement. With

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01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 6: the God as my witness, we're going to use every

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01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,799
Speaker 6: resource we have at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security

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01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 6: and throughout this government to identify, disrupt, dismantle, and destroy

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01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 6: these networks and make America safe again for the American people.

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Speaker 6: It will happen, and we will do it in Charlie's name.

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Speaker 4: So Ben, I want to go to you, because again

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Speaker 4: you're the lawyer.

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Speaker 10: Here he mentioned terror network, domestic terror network, and with

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Speaker 10: Luigi Maggioni. The news this morning was that the judge

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01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 10: dropped the domestic terror sort of angle to the prosecution

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01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 10: Is this legally defensible?

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01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 4: Is this just a New York bad judge.

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01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 16: No, I haven't actually read the decision from the judge

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01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 16: or the rationale for it. I do not understand how

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01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 16: it's not just clearly first degree murder. I mean, it's

1479
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 16: obviously premeditated murder. So dropping it to second degree murder

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01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 16: as though it's a crime of passion is totally crazy

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01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 16: in every possible way. And again when we talk about

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01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 16: people who own it, Bill Burr shouted on multiple shows

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01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 16: on National TV Free Luigi, when we talk about inherently

1484
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 16: violent ideologies, it's not just the trans ideology that is

1485
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 16: inherently violent. If you are a person who says the

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01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 16: existence of wealthy people is a threat to me, that

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01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 16: they are killing us, that there's a group of people

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01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,759
Speaker 16: and they are manipulating your life such that you're poor

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01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 16: and they're rich, and they are harming you. They're actively

1490
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 16: harming you by their very existence. The billionaires are actively

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01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,839
Speaker 16: harming you just by existing. They're evil by their existence.

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01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 16: Then why should we be surprised when healthcare CEOs get

1493
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 16: shot on the streets and then there's a post facto

1494
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 16: the murder justification In the same way that you saw

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01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 16: with Charlie. There is something so hideous that has been

1496
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 16: bred on. The point I've been making on my show

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01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,520
Speaker 16: is typically nobody gets shot over marginal tax rate conversations.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 16: It's not as though every political debate in America ends

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01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 16: with somebody shooting somebody else. But there are particular types

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01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,759
Speaker 16: of political debates in America in which one side sees

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01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 16: fits to murder the other side, and it is baked

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01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 16: into those ideologies. And so I don't want to hear

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01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 16: this nonsense from democratic politicians who just generically denounced political violence.

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01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 16: If you are unwilling to say, as a Democratic politician,

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01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 16: for example, Donald Trump is not a fascist, and you

1507
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 16: talk about thought matrices that created violence. If you keep

1508
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 16: calling Donald Trump hitler, everyone said this, it's true. If

1509
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 16: you keep calling Donald Trump Hitler over and over and over,

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01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 16: someone might think, you know, he's Hitler, and what do

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01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 16: we do with Hitler.

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Speaker 5: We try to shoot Hitler in the head.

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Speaker 11: You know, on your on your both sides, point, Ben,

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01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 11: there's this meme that's come out Seth Moulton. This Democrat

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01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 11: congressman goes onto the he's been spewing this that the

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Speaker 11: vast majority of political violence in America is from the right.

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Speaker 11: And when I heard that, I said, well, look, I

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01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 11: don't know. I haven't looked at the statistics. Maybe maybe

1519
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 11: that's true. It doesn't ring true to me, but maybe

1520
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 11: it's true. So I go and I look into the statistics,

1521
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 11: and I say, oh, there's this study of that study.

1522
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 11: So I said, okay, well, let me just look into

1523
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 11: particular cases. There was an event a couple of years

1524
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 11: ago at University of Pittsburgh. Two antif operatives show up.

1525
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 11: These are members of an antifas go to ANTIFA meetings.

1526
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 11: Were caught going through TSA with explosive material on them

1527
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 11: multiple times. Still add to board the airplane. They set

1528
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 11: off an explosive at the event and it was over

1529
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 11: the transgender issue. Injured, very seriously injured a female cop

1530
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 11: at the event. I looked into that. I said, well,

1531
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 11: this would be an example of left wing violence, right. No,

1532
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 11: it was not classified as left wing violence. It was

1533
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 11: pled down. It was classified as obstruction of justice, not

1534
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 11: included in any of the stats.

1535
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 13: I looked through some other case covenants.

1536
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 5: They treated covenant covenant a covenant.

1537
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 11: They said that the shooter was seeking fame. It was

1538
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 11: not a left wing attack. This is a transgender ideologue

1539
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 11: shooting through a window of a church and murdering kids.

1540
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 11: So I realized the way that they get away with

1541
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 11: this is very simple. They don't count the left wing violence.

1542
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 11: It's a completely bogus statistic And so to your point, Ben, yes,

1543
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 11: you have to call this out. To Stephen Miller's point,

1544
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 11: this is largely organized. There are groups that fund this,

1545
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 11: that promote this, that publicize this, groups with foreign knowledge

1546
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 11: of attacks.

1547
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 13: This is organized.

1548
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 11: And our government has taken on organized crime before, taken

1549
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 11: on the mob, taken on terror groups, taken on.

1550
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 13: All of these things. We have the ability to do that.

1551
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 11: It is not only our right through our representatives, it

1552
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 11: is our responsibility to do that to restore order. And

1553
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 11: if we are not treating this as an organized criminal

1554
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 11: political threat from the left, then we are just twiddling

1555
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:46,560
Speaker 11: our thumbs.

1556
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 2: And that the left will always be more violent. I

1557
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 2: mean not even it's not even close. They have a

1558
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 2: near a near monopoly on political violence on the left,

1559
01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 2: especially over the last ten years, particular over the last

1560
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 2: five years, they have a near monopoly on it. And

1561
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 2: there's also a reason for that, which is that and

1562
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 2: there's a reason why conservatives generally don't. There's to your point,

1563
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 2: everyone's morning, no one boarded up their windows. Not only

1564
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 2: were there was there no rioting. Nobody was even worried

1565
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 2: that there would be. Everyone just knew that there would

1566
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 2: not be. Meanwhile, if you were to flip it around,

1567
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 2: and and somebody of Charlie's importance and status on the

1568
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 2: left were to be assassinated, God forbid.

1569
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 3: Uh we we we.

1570
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 2: Know that immediately all the all the windows are being

1571
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 2: bought up in every major city. And the reason is

1572
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 2: that the left, they are enemies of civilization. They they

1573
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 2: hate civilization, they hate Western civilization. They they wanted, they

1574
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 2: want and this is the the kind of words that

1575
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 2: they use. Dismantle. They're always talking about dismantling. They want

1576
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: to dismantle. They want to they want to tear everything down.

1577
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 2: And they'll and they'll tell you that tear down, dismantle,

1578
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 2: tear down, bring the tear down, the patriarchy, dismantle the

1579
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 2: white heteronormative, whatever, the family. Whereas conservatives, what are what

1580
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 2: are we most like? At its essence? What are we

1581
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 2: trying to conserve? We're trying to conserve civilization, Western civilization

1582
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 2: in particular, And we have. We have disagreements about how

1583
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 2: to do that and and all of that. There are

1584
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 2: certainly disagreements about that, but all of us are fans

1585
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 2: of civilization, and so we just inherently recognize that when

1586
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 2: you see a guy walk up to a healthcare CEO

1587
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:27,640
Speaker 2: and shoot him and kill him in the street, you cannot.

1588
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 3: Have a civilization if that is allowed to happen.

1589
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 2: If we get to a point where that just happens

1590
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 2: and we're okay with it, then we don't have civilization

1591
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 2: where we have a third world country. And so conservatives

1592
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 2: just fundamentally recognize that is a bad thing, where on

1593
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 2: the left they don't.

1594
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 3: They don't recognize that.

1595
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 2: They don't they And it's again, it's it's hard for

1596
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 2: us to wrapper mind around this as normal people. But

1597
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 2: they do not see civilization itself as necessarily a good thing.

1598
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 2: And uh and so to them, violence is and if

1599
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 2: you're looking to tear down civilization, then violence is always

1600
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 2: going to be a tool in that art.

1601
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 16: I think there's actually a deep nihilism implicit in that

1602
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 16: that doesn't exist on particularly the religious right.

1603
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 4: And the reason I.

1604
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 16: Say that is because if you do is Charlie, believe

1605
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 16: it is all of us believe that there is a

1606
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 16: God centered universe, a God ordered universe that for the

1607
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 16: most part we can discern, right, not all of it.

1608
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 16: Obviously we don't know why horrible tragedies, horrifying things happen.

1609
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 16: I mean, everyone is suffering with the aftermath of that.

1610
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 16: But there is in fact a God order universe, which

1611
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 16: is certainly something that Charlie believes. If you believe that,

1612
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 16: then you also believe that you have a duty in

1613
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 16: the world to act within that universe in rational ways,

1614
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 16: and you have duties to God to do the things

1615
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 16: that God told you to do, including things like don't

1616
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 16: kill people, don't murder people. And if you don't believe

1617
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 16: any of that, if you believe that the world is

1618
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 16: just a system of power, that every argument is just

1619
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 16: a guys for power, right, the sort of Michelle fu

1620
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 16: Co argument that all arguments at their essence are just

1621
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 16: a way of me getting power over you. Then the

1622
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 16: response to an attempt for me to get power over

1623
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 16: you is to use power and response, and that leads

1624
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 16: to revolutionary violence. And we've seen periods like this in

1625
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 16: American history. It happened in the early twentieth century. It

1626
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 16: happened again in the nineteen sixties, and I fear that

1627
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 16: we're headed into another period like that, with a left

1628
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 16: that is so nihilistic in its desire to see every argument.

1629
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 16: This is the thing that we're trying to silence with Charlie. Really,

1630
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 16: more than anything else, the thing they were trying to

1631
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 16: silence with Charlie was the argument. It's the thing that

1632
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 16: he died doing. They didn't want him making the art.

1633
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 16: Yes he was an amazing coalition build room talked about this, Yes,

1634
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 16: he's an amazing political activist. The thing he was killed

1635
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 16: for doing was making the argument. That's what he was

1636
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 16: killed for doing. There are lots of political activists, and

1637
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 16: some of them are quite effective. He was killed for

1638
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 16: making the argument. Why because there are too many nihilists

1639
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 16: on the left, prenominantly, who believe that the argument is

1640
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 16: just a form of power that is to be met

1641
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 16: with a bullet.

1642
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1643
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, And Charlie and I you know, again, there's so

1644
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 10: many things that are gonna haunt me.

1645
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 4: I think.

1646
01:24:56,640 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 10: But he in the last month, I would say multiple times,

1647
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 10: one of the most common arguments that he was warning

1648
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 10: everybody about was we America has two roads ahead. We

1649
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 10: have the fork in the road is maga or Maggioneism,

1650
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 10: and he would use that more than Mamdanism, right, which

1651
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,480
Speaker 10: was the more common I think refrained from from most.

1652
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 10: And that's haunting. And I hope that, I hope that

1653
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 10: you know, we have a joke around here. It's like,

1654
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 10: how many times Charlie's proven right? How many times he

1655
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 10: told us something? And we're like, oh, gosh, darn it,

1656
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 10: he's right again. And I'm you know, obviously this is

1657
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 10: something he.

1658
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 4: Would have never wanted to be right about, but he was.

1659
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 10: And I think in his memory we have to do

1660
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 10: everything we can in our power to make sure that

1661
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 10: the country does not fray.

1662
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 4: And I and I've said this before, but I'll say

1663
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 4: it again.

1664
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 10: Charlie was He wanted revival. He didn't want revolution. He

1665
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 10: wanted the blood of Jesus. He did not want bloo

1666
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 10: in the streets. And he wanted a country his kids

1667
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 10: could inherit and be prosperous and thrive and go to

1668
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 10: church and love their their spouses. And that is not

1669
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 10: the tone that we are getting from the American left.

1670
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 10: And I found that, you know, you brought up a

1671
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 10: san piker. I do have a clip that would I

1672
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 10: don't I don't know if you guys want to play it.

1673
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 4: I'm of two minds of it.

1674
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 10: But you know, he's basically saying, you've got to gutting

1675
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 10: your opponents, liberals, left wingers. You need to be showing

1676
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 10: your opponent's guts. You need to be gutting them. You

1677
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 10: need to be shanking these somethings and letting their intestines

1678
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:36,799
Speaker 10: just ride on the stage.

1679
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 13: Blood in the soak the streets, and blood I think

1680
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 13: was one of.

1681
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 4: His first license dison, he said.

1682
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 16: And that guy is in the New York Times, so

1683
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 16: he's not a fringe player. The New York Times featured

1684
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 16: him twice in the space of a week.

1685
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 5: Twice.

1686
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 16: This is the great exponent of rational debate that they've

1687
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,799
Speaker 16: got on left. Ours was Charlie, and Charlie was murdered.

1688
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 16: Their great exponent of rational debate is the guy who says,

1689
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 16: slice and dice your opponents and leave their intestines writhing

1690
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 16: on the stage.

1691
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 2: And who won't be doing any of that himself, by

1692
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 2: the way, correct, he will stay in this comfortable studio

1693
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 2: in his.

1694
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 5: Million dollar mansion. Is a socialist, but these and he'll he'll.

1695
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 2: He'll offer up whatever leftist lunatic will take that and

1696
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 2: run with it.

1697
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 3: He's fine to just offer that person.

1698
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 2: That person also is a human sacrifice for him, the

1699
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 2: person that that person kills most especially, but the person

1700
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 2: who carries it out because now they're they're like, you know,

1701
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 2: they go to prison and Hassan biker gets to keep

1702
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 2: living his comfortable people.

1703
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 11: You know, we respond in a cultural way, which is

1704
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 11: for important. We respond in prayer and a spiritual way.

1705
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 11: That's very important. But we can't neglect the political either.

1706
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 11: And when people violate the law, when people incite violence,

1707
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 11: when people engage in direct threats, when people do things

1708
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 11: that are illegal, it is incumbent upon us to prosecute them,

1709
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 11: including those people, to the fullest extent.

1710
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 3: Of the law.

1711
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 4: Amen, we'll be right back.

1712
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 2: A few of them where you wake up the next

1713
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 2: morning and okay, this is a different country, and uh

1714
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 2: and this is this is this is one of those moments.

1715
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,560
Speaker 2: But what I can say is that there are a

1716
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 2: few things that have to happen going forward, and maybe

1717
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 2: on the sort of they have to get ugli or

1718
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 2: first side of it is that we have to really

1719
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,839
Speaker 2: we have to establish order. We were talking about civilization

1720
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 2: protecting civilization, Well, you need order for civilization, you need

1721
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 2: law and order, and so that needs to be reasserted

1722
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 2: in a big way, and that can be ugly. Now

1723
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 2: it's done through the law. You know, no one is

1724
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 2: calling for uh again. We are the defenders of civilization.

1725
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 2: We don't want to see random violence. We don't want

1726
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 2: to see people killed in the street. We don't want

1727
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 2: to see that. But we want to see our legal

1728
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 2: authorities exercise that authority. That can be an ugly thing,

1729
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 2: like putting people in prison is not a happy thing.

1730
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 3: No one we wish we didn't have to do that.

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Speaker 2: Executing murderers, people who commit crimes need to be executed,

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01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 2: and it needs to be done legally and swiftly, not

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01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:22,520
Speaker 2: thirty five years after they've been convicted. I believe personally

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01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 2: that a public execution should come back. There's a reason

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01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 2: why Western civilization had public execution in many places for

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01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 2: you know, hundreds and thousands of years. I think that's

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01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 2: an example people need to see. And a lot of

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01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 2: that stuff is ugly. But here's the thing. You're going

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01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 2: to have ugliness no matter what. And either we can

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01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 2: have ugliness in the street, we can have the kind

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01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 2: of ugliness where a CEO walking down the street at

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01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 2: five am gets shot in the.

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Speaker 3: Back of the head.

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01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 2: We can have the kind of ugliness where a man

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01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 2: on a college campus is just trying to make the

1746
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,919
Speaker 2: argument gets shot and killed again. That kind of ugliness,

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01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 2: the ugliness that can affect anybody, that anyone can fall

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Speaker 2: victim too. Or we can have the ugliness that's contained

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01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:11,679
Speaker 2: where we have people in positions of authority who use

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01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 2: force to go and take the violent people and the

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01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 2: dangerous people and punish them. We can have that kind

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01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 2: of ugliness and that's and that's what we need. And

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01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 2: then after that we're at the same time, we've already

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Speaker 2: talked about this a little bit.

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Speaker 10: We're gonna welcome back radio and just want to please

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01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 10: hold that thought.

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Speaker 4: Sure, hold that thought. We welcome back radio.

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Speaker 10: One second, Welcome back to the final segment with Charlie's

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01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 10: friends at Walsh, Michael Knowles, Ben Shapiro. Again, thank you

1760
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 10: guys for coming, and we are talking about what happens next.

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01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 10: And you're making a I think a really impassionate important

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01:30:56,120 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 10: point about justice contained by the authorities and the structures

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01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 10: that we the people voted for versus anarchy in the

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Speaker 10: streets and please please finish your time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 2: Well, so that's that's one really important piece of this

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01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 2: that we need. And then the other piece going forward,

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01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 2: and we've talked about this a little bit, is a

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01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 2: unity not not just not just random. You know, you

1770
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 2: can't go you can't just say hey, everyone, let's let's unite,

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01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 2: let's be united.

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01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 3: You can't go.

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01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 2: If you go up to a group of a thousand

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01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 2: people and say, hey, let's unite, guys, They're gonna look

1775
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 2: at you and say and they're gonna ask.

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01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,679
Speaker 3: What do you mean to do? What unite around?

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01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 13: For?

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01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: What are we uniting? I don't want to.

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01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna unite with you unless I know what

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01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 2: we're doing. And so that's why a lot of the

1782
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 2: calls for just sort of general generic unity in America

1783
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 2: don't really work because there's always the question of around what.

1784
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 2: But as conservatives, as people on the right, you know,

1785
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 2: we can unite, and we should and uh, and I

1786
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 2: think what we need to do is put it put

1787
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 2: to the side. A lot of our inner inner you know,

1788
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:04,640
Speaker 2: our our squabbles, our family feuds, but all that to

1789
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 2: the side for now. We can get back to a

1790
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 2: lot of that stuff. We probably will, I'm suretives always do.

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Speaker 3: We will always get back to it.

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01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 2: But for right but for right now, there there we

1793
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,680
Speaker 2: have more important things to do. Because one thing I

1794
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 2: know for sure, and there are plenty of Conservatives who

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01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:23,679
Speaker 2: I've had my own. I've been known to get into

1796
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 2: feuds here and there with people, uh but here. But

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01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 2: here's what I know, and we saw this with Charlie,

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01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 2: that if I walk out of this building and I

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01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 2: get killed, that every Conservative, even the ones that I've

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01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 2: feuded with, that they will not be happy about that.

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01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 2: They will they will mourn that. They will mourn that

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01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 2: in the same if it happened any of us, they'll

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01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 2: mourn it, even even the people the Conservatives didn't like us.

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01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 2: But I also know that on the left, they they

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01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 2: won't share in that morning for the most part. And

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01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 2: so kind of the friend enemy distinction is easy for

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01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 2: me to see that the people who will mourn your

1808
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 2: death are your friends. The people who will dance on

1809
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 2: your grave and laugh in the face of your grieving

1810
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:06,799
Speaker 2: wife are your enemies in this battle.

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Speaker 3: And so that's where the unity needs to come.

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01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 4: The wretched demons honestly, please, Yeah, Well, where do we

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01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 4: go next?

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Speaker 11: You cannot have a marketplace of any kind of ideas

1815
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 11: or of goods if people are shooting up the marketplace.

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01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 11: And it's not even just the murderer in this case,

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01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 11: because there are freaks everywhere and horrible events happen. But

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01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 11: the loud and widespread celebration of that sort of thing

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01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 11: shows us that there are three steps. Step one is

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01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 11: we want to have a robust conversation in a good country, right.

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01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 13: But we are where we are in integrated and dangerous place.

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01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 11: Step two, question mark, Step three flourishing and speech and

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01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 11: national unity. But there is that step two, There is

1824
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 11: that question how do we get there? And there is

1825
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 11: no liberty without order, and there is no civilization in

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01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 11: which half the country is going to dance when the

1827
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 11: other half is murdered, And so that requires a cultural response.

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Speaker 13: I think you're starting to see that from a lot

1829
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 13: of companies. That's pretty good.

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01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 11: That requires conservatives to let down their grudges that they're

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01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 11: always holding all the time for just a little bit

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01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 11: and rally at least around a person, and a person

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01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 11: who's clear vision has led us for a long time

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01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 11: very successfully, and it requires the government to get in

1835
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 11: and do its job as well. And then and only

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01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 11: then can you get back to the kind of country

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Speaker 11: then at least I want And if the people who

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01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 11: celebrate murder don't want it too.

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Speaker 16: Bad, I mean, I know we at Daily Wire, we

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01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 16: trust you at TPUSA to do it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's really the answer we're willing to provide.

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01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 16: And we are providing any level of material support, any

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01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:41,759
Speaker 16: level of support on the program, boots on the ground,

1844
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 16: helping you to do what Charlie would have wanted to

1845
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 16: be done here. And I think that the reason that

1846
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 16: everybody trusted Charlie, the reason we're all mourning Charlie, is

1847
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 16: because nobody did it better.

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01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 5: You spell out too of Charlie's goals.

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Speaker 16: He said, you know, he wanted to bring people back

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01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 16: to Christ and bring people back to church and back

1851
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 16: to biblical values, and he wanted to keep the MAGA

1852
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 16: coalition together and expand it. And the question is how

1853
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 16: you do that And the answer is you focus on

1854
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:07,839
Speaker 16: the first and the second is a byproduct. The answer

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01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 16: is that, as Matt says, you have to unite around something,

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01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 16: and yeah, we can unite in the short term around

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01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 16: the fact that there are a bunch of people who hate

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01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 16: our gus and want murder us, which of course is true.

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01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 16: But long term unity, big movement change, which is what

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01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 16: Charlie was really trying to drive and why he wants

1861
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 16: to talk to people who disagree, is about building around

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01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 16: those core values. And so the long term vision, Yeah,

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01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 16: we'll have our petty squabbles, and yes, some of those

1864
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 16: squabbles will be more than petty, but the long term

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01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:37,480
Speaker 16: vision has to be built around those original biblical conservative

1866
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 16: values that Charlie stood for. Things like the Bible, things

1867
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 16: like free markets, things like family. All those things are

1868
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 16: things Charlie stood for. You got to build the coalition

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01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 16: around values, because we can't build it around the man,

1870
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 16: but we can build it around the values that he

1871
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 16: left behind, that he spent his entire life fighting for.

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Speaker 16: And we couldn't be frankly more honored to join you

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01:35:58,360 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 16: guys as much as we can and fight.

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Speaker 10: Thank you for that, and thank you for donating The

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Speaker 10: Daily Wire a million dollars breaking news on this show.

1876
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 10: Thank you guys for honoring Charlie so well today.

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Speaker 4: God bless you