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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Weston Hodkoits were coming to you

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Speaker 1: from socially distant locations here at lambeau Field and West.

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Speaker 1: The green Bay Packers on Saturday night advanced their record

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Speaker 1: to eleven and three with a sixteen a little bit

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Speaker 1: too close for comfort victory over the Carolina Panthers, but

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Speaker 1: nonetheless it was a victory, a tale of two halves.

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Speaker 1: Packers totally dominated the first half of play, then couldn't

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Speaker 1: quite get things going in the second half, but did

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Speaker 1: enough to to hang on to win, and Green Bay

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Speaker 1: is still in control of that number one playoff seed

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Speaker 1: in the NFC. Well, first and foremost, Mike, you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about winning games looking good while you win games?

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Speaker 1: Asked the law Angelos, Rams and Pittsburgh Steelers about what

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Speaker 1: it means to win games in the National Football League

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Speaker 1: and not have a letdown against a team that maybe

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't be on the same level with. It doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: There's only thirty two teams. There's so much parody these

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Speaker 1: type of things happen occasionally for the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 1: A really fast start on Saturday night. Offensively, honestly, I

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Speaker 1: even tweeted about it, wrote about it in our live updates.

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Speaker 1: They moved the ball at will on that opening series.

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Speaker 1: The forty six yard run by Aaron Jones really breaking

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Speaker 1: things open. Whatever Carolina was doing, they couldn't stop Aaron

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Speaker 1: for the next quarter and a half. But they did

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Speaker 1: put the clamps down. They mixed up some of their coverages,

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Speaker 1: they packed more guys into the box, really loaded the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, and most importantly, we're able to get

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Speaker 1: pressure with the four man rush against the Packers offensive

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Speaker 1: line that has been so stout this season. Despite all

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Speaker 1: of that, the defense kind of was able to pick

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Speaker 1: up where the offense left off and got a huge

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Speaker 1: defensive stop on the goal line. Chris Barnes, as I

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Speaker 1: joked about on Twitter, but umboing that ball away from

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Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater as he tried to dive over the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Kevin King returns that forty eight yards. The Packers end

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Speaker 1: up generating a touchdown off that a huge four team

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Speaker 1: points swing there, potentially for Green Bay, and in the

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Speaker 1: second half they got three and els when they needed them.

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Speaker 1: They got the final stop with fifty seconds to go

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Speaker 1: when they needed it. I thought this was a performance

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Speaker 1: the defensive front and defense in general could really build

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Speaker 1: off of, while offensively given the Packers a chance to

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Speaker 1: reflect on what happened in those last two quarters and

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Speaker 1: in what needs to be corrected now going into this

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Speaker 1: game against Tennessee. Yeah, I think we saw just how

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Speaker 1: smooth and efficient this Packers offense can be when it's

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Speaker 1: running the football like it was in the first half,

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Speaker 1: and not just the forty six yard run by Aaron Jones,

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Speaker 1: but there were chunk plays against the should say with

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Speaker 1: things easy for this Packers offense and making life easy

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Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers. So then the question is, okay, where

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Speaker 1: did things go wrong? And as always, it's not just

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Speaker 1: dropping some passes. Al Lazar drops one at the end

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Speaker 1: of the first half on the the Jared Cook Dallas playoff,

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Speaker 1: you know, reprise of of that great play, but the

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Speaker 1: passes dropped by the sideline. Packers don't get some points

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Speaker 1: there at the end of the first half. Davantae Adams

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Speaker 1: have converted a first down. Aaron Rodgers talked about a

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Speaker 1: clearly missed hands to the face on Lucas Patrick that, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, that would have given the Packers an automatic

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Speaker 1: first down to continue drive. Then Matt Lafleur admitted he

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Speaker 1: got away from the running game. Aaron Rodgers got away

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Speaker 1: those run solution to horizontal throws to Davante Adams. Packers

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Speaker 1: with the big third down conversion to al Lazard on

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Speaker 1: the shallow cross that got the field goal from Mason Crosby.

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Speaker 1: Another clutch kick by Crosby fifty one yards outdoors in

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Speaker 1: and that ended up being enough to hang on. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I really loved about this performance, starting

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Speaker 1: in that victory. But also when you mentioned the the

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Speaker 1: adjustments that they made, I I was listening to Matt Leflour.

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Speaker 1: I thought one thing that was very interesting too that

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Speaker 1: also the fact that this happens in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: they get the ball to their playmakers in the open field,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to just naturally break tackles. Based

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Speaker 1: because somebody was saying, Hey, is it better to have

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Speaker 1: a performance like this going into a game against Tennessee

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Speaker 1: where you know what you gotta correct, as opposed to

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Speaker 1: you know you lose and now you're kind of doubting yourselves.

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Speaker 1: I think Matt Lafleur and this coaching staff and that

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Speaker 1: obviously that locker room is so shown so much maturity

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Speaker 1: that I don't think it's based on a win or

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be able to take the good with the

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Speaker 1: bad and the bad with the good and make the

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Speaker 1: necessary adjustments. So I feel like showing like this, if

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Speaker 1: second from what they learned in the second half, UH,

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Speaker 1: specifically that third quarter where they only were able to

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Speaker 1: primetime game. It will be Sunday night, UH at at

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Speaker 1: whether you want to say the Packers are driven by

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Speaker 1: Seems like it's shaping up as a game where both

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Speaker 1: It's it's going to be it's gonna be a really

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Speaker 1: And this season fourteen games the Titans have played, nine

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Speaker 1: it doesn't take victories in both games. But it's not

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Speaker 1: I love that you're my coworker, that ye're the one

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Speaker 1: that handles all this stuff, because somebody asked me that

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Speaker 1: an inbox too, and also on Twitter. Uh, what what

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Speaker 1: It didn't he loved coaching Clay Matthews. He was ever

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Speaker 1: there quick. The end of the two thousand twelve season,

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Speaker 1: I Wes Hogkwits working at the Green Bay Press because

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Speaker 1: of ill place confidence to ask Kevin Green if Dom

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Speaker 1: Caper still had it and Kevin stared at me for

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Speaker 1: no short of five seconds with this. You're saying like

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Speaker 1: at some point he he lost it? Is that? Is

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Speaker 1: that what you're asking me? And I thought I was

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Speaker 1: why Dom system was successful for so long, and also

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Speaker 1: they shared. And when Dom got that job at O nine,

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Speaker 1: they formed. I only got two years with them. You

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Speaker 1: going on forward to find someone that was more energetic

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Speaker 1: Green was. So My thoughts and prayers go out to

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Speaker 1: his family, his wife Tara, who fought so hard for

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Speaker 1: Just the heartbreaking thing. Fifty eight years old, too young. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Dom Capers was the man who introduced Kevin Green

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Speaker 1: when he did get that Pro Football Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: induction and can'ton Ohio. In with that, we will call

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Speaker 1: it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be

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Speaker 1: sure to follow all of our coverage of the team

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Speaker 1: on Packers dot com for West I Am Mike, thank

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Speaker 1: you for tuning, and everybody to see you over stuff.