1 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Kathy 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: and I are so excited to be joining you again today. 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 2: So excited to be back today, though we have such 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: a special guest. Please welcome from this season of the 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor. Jerry's here. Hi, Jerry, how are you? 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: Jerry? 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 4: Excited? I am great, I am doing so good, so good. 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: We are so excited to have you here. You're our 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 2: very first guest from the very first second Golden Bachelor. 10 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: A lot of first there. 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: Yet, Jerry. 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: There's so much we want to dive into today. We've 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: got to get started. We have a zillion questions, but 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: we want to know about you. 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 4: Okay, what about me? What about Cherry Flowers? Cherry Flowers 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 4: an amazing mom, Jerry Flowers, a CEO owner of a 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: home care agency, Jerry Flowers who is looking for love. 18 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 4: Jerry Flowers, who was given one hundred and fifty percent 19 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 4: to people. You name it. If they say, if they 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 4: said my name, she's a giver, she's a listener, she's amazing. 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 4: I mean, wow, they would say. 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: That you were so amazing. 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: So Jerry, tell us what we're going to get into 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: all that? You know, we wanted how you got on 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: the show. We want to know, but what was dating 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: like before? Before you went on the show? What was 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: dating like for you? Kind of like my dating life 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: A big good. 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 3: We all have similarities, don't we. 30 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: Well, I will tell you. When I first got interviewed 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 4: for the show, said to me, first of all, this 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 4: is not your real aid. Second of all, what's the 33 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 4: matter with the men in Rockville? And I said, I 34 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 4: don't know. 35 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: Did you say how much time do you have? Because 36 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: I'll explain it to you right. 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: Had you ever watched the show before? 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 4: I have? My mother loved the show. My mother loved 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: the show, and the person who signed me up for 40 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 4: Gay Melnick loves both of you, loves sending hugs and 41 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: loves loves you. But you know dating was not on 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 4: my radar. It was, and I'll be transparent about that. 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 4: I mean, dating is a type of thing where you 44 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: have to go out and invest and do it and 45 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 4: work on it. My investment was my children, who you know, 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: you know my story. My husband died at forty seven 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 4: and left me with a fourteen year old, eight year 48 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 4: old and four year old, and I'm like, what am 49 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: I supposed to do with these children who I adore. 50 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so wait, I have to I have to jump ahead. 51 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: I mean, we're going to talk about you know, the 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: first repressure is all that, but a widow at forty 53 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: seven and raising kids. And when you sat and talked 54 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: with mel like that really resonated with him that you 55 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: said it. You said it had been eighteen years and 56 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: now it was your time talking to us a little 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: bit about that, because. 58 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 4: I mean, forty seven years old, you know, he's here today, 59 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 4: gone tomorrow. Had no like, what am I doing with 60 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: my life? We're supposed to retire, We're supposed to talk 61 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 4: with our children. Is supposed to do for college? What 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 4: am I supposed to do with these children? And I'm 63 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: saying I never said why me? Never said that because 64 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: my philosophy was why not me? Why not me? Because 65 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: I had recently, not recently, like maybe eighteen years, fourteen 66 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: years prior to that, I had lost my son at 67 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 4: fourteen years old, So I had lost a son as well. 68 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: So I was like, Okay, I've got to get up 69 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: and do this. 70 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: And I did it. 71 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 4: But dating was not on my radar because these little 72 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: people needed me, they were really I was too busy. 73 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: So I was you. I mean, you are raising kids 74 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: is a it's a serious endeavor. I mean, any of 75 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: us who do it, we know right. All shared that 76 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: in comment What did your kids say when you decided 77 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: to come on the show. 78 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: They were so elated, they were so happy. They were like, Mom, 79 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 4: you have given us so much. It is your time. 80 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 4: You know. It was really symbolic. My son David said 81 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: to me one dawn, never forget, He said, Mom, you 82 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 4: never laugh. Why don't you laugh? I was like wow. 83 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 4: And then when I got ready to go on the show, 84 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: he said, Mom, I was laughing. 85 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: How old are your kids, Jerry? How old are your children? Now? 86 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: I have a thirty two year old who just blessed 87 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: me who's getting married fiance. She has a fiance, Mike, 88 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, who blessed me with this amazing little boy 89 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: three months old now, Michael David Alexander. He is was 90 00:04:54,680 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 4: born juneteenth. Okay. Then I have my doctor Flowers, Amber Flowers, 91 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: who is getting married to her doctor Miles Simms on Saturday. 92 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: Oh boy, you're a busy lady. 93 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 4: Oh you can't even imagine. I won't even tell you 94 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: where I parked my car for this. I don't even 95 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 4: know where my car is when I go out, don't 96 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: know where it's at. 97 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: And when you shared it's your time, it's both of 98 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: your times. 99 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: When you said that to Mel. 100 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: Because it was. And then I had David. David, who, ladies, 101 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: there's nothing worse for your son at four years old 102 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 4: to run downstairs and I say, I have a surprise 103 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: for you, and he said, Mommy, Daddy's coming home. Oh god. 104 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 4: I said, no, sweetheart, Daddy's not coming home. But I 105 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 4: have something else for you. But no, and those and 106 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 4: my children. So we have the thirty one year old, 107 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: the twenty seven year old, and then we have David 108 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 4: twenty two. 109 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, that's that's that's a lot. But you know what, 110 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: you have the energy. I mean that to me. Obviously 111 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: we we we were on that show and we had 112 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: those poignant moments with our Gary. But I found it 113 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 2: so interesting that you were able to open up so 114 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: easily about your time and that you had raised your kids. 115 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: And Mel was so open in this first episode about 116 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: him raising his children. And I love that it just 117 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: you and you said, I really feel like I have 118 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: a strong connection with him. Talk about that. 119 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: I did, because it was so I don't talk about 120 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: it much, Kathy, I really don't. I don't go around 121 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 4: saying I worked for a job for a year and 122 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: a half. I didn't even know my husband had passed. 123 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 4: I don't go around talking about it. So for some 124 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 4: reason with him, that twinkle in his eye, that sincerity, 125 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: I just opened up. I just opened up. 126 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: Did you feel better? Did you feel good? 127 00:06:59,440 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: Oh? 128 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 4: I felt so much better, Susan. You know, I don't 129 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 4: want to say it's a burden. It's not a burden, 130 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 4: because it's been a blessing and a gift. But it's 131 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: so nice to talk about it and talk about it 132 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: to the point that I've done what I needed to do. 133 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 4: I've given them the foundation, and now I can be 134 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 4: I don't want to use the word selfish, but now 135 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: I can be selfish. You can and do something with Jared. 136 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: It's about you now. 137 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 4: It's really about me. It's really about me, and I 138 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: say that sincerely. It's really about me. 139 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: I'm very curious how you balance. You are CEO of 140 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: a home health care and you have kids and your 141 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: planning weddings. How are you Before we even get into 142 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: night one, which we're about to get into, I want 143 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: to know how I'm a mother of three and I 144 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: have two grandchildren, So how do you balance all of that? 145 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: You know? I just first of all, I pray, ladies. 146 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: I'm going to just be very transparent about that. I 147 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: pray first, and God give me the strain because I 148 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 4: get tired. I get tired, but I just keep going. 149 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 4: I just keep going, and I just say, why not me? 150 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 4: First of all, I have life. I mean one thing 151 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 4: about this show. Everybody's going to finally know my age. 152 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: My children never knew my age. My children didn't know 153 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 4: my age. And I have a big birthday and I'm 154 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: gonna be sixty five. 155 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: And you know what, congratulas, freaking proud of you. 156 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: I am right, you are damn Do you need medicare? 157 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: Do you need medicare? Advice that can help you out? Jared? 158 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: You know what, I have been putting that off for 159 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 4: a month. ARP trash, trash, I can't do this, but 160 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: you know what, You're just how welcome it? 161 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: Just welcome it. It's all good. 162 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: You know it's coming for you, whether you're ready or not. 163 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: What did you do, if anything special, to prepare for 164 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: this journey, Like, what were your thoughts going into it? 165 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: Getting on the airplane and thinking, wow, what am I 166 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: about to do? 167 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 4: You know, I only told very few people, like I 168 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: have a few friends of mine. They're still mad at me. 169 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 4: I didn't tell them. I don't. But I only told 170 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 4: very few, my small circle and my prayer partner and 171 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: my children, and of course I had to tell my 172 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: hair dress because I hadn't do my. 173 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: Hair, so that was that's a must, That's a must. 174 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 4: But I told very little and I just prayed on it, 175 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: and I just said the biggest thing for me if 176 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: my grandson would have been born July ninth, I wasn't coming, 177 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 4: but he was born juneteenth, and I said, I'm going ready. 178 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: That was okay. So let you know, we've all been there. 179 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: We've all been in that limo. Talk to us about 180 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: night one. You know how I know how I felt. 181 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 2: I was. I thought I was going to trip walking 182 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 2: across that dropperty, how did you feel getting out of 183 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: the limo? 184 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: I was like, what am I doing? Don't forget I 185 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: had the cap on, so I'm like, please don't let 186 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: the cap go to the side. I'll be on TV. 187 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 4: My steff Is scope is going to choke me as. 188 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: I'm getting we heard you we heard. The world heard 189 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: you say you were going to take care of all 190 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: of his needs. We all heard it. 191 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I did, and I'm and I like that. 192 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: You want you, like to be his dessert after a 193 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: long day's work, and now he was hungry. 194 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 4: I hope he was. 195 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: I hope when you actually laid eyes on him, Like, 196 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: what did you feel? 197 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 4: Oh? 198 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: My? 199 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: He was so he's handsome. To the point that I'm 200 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: telling you, ladies, I felt butterflies. Who feels butterflies at 201 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 4: sixty four years old? 202 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: We all want to that's that's that's what we're looking for. 203 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: And ladies, I want to tell you, and I won't 204 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 4: tell you else what was tingling else? Also too, I 205 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: won't I won't tell you because I'm like, wait a minute, 206 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 4: wait a minute. 207 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 3: It was the word I'm alive. 208 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: So were you nervous? Get now, obviously you know your 209 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: your your body parts were talking to you, But were 210 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: you nervously talking. 211 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: To My only thing was that Heck, that was the 212 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 4: only thing that was making me nervously. I didn't want 213 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: it to fall. Yeah, I didn't want that hack. 214 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, how about when I saw the other women, like 215 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: the women are gorgeous, The women were beautiful, the women 216 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: were just. 217 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 4: But it's one of those things. And this is true. 218 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,479 Speaker 4: We are all fearfully and beautifully made, So don't compare yourself. 219 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 4: There's a reason why you are here, and you're unique, 220 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 4: and if you can hold on to that, because it's 221 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 4: a lot. The women are beautiful, they all are. They 222 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 4: look great, you know. I when I came back, I 223 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 4: got a personal trainer, you know, because but but you 224 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 4: are who you are and that's what I want the 225 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 4: ladies to understand out there, And you are who you are. 226 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and I think that is a great message. 227 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: Our message has always been you know, this is our chapter. 228 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: This is your next chapter of your life, and you know, 229 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: we all want to make it the best chapter. And 230 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: I think all of the women, I think we share 231 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: that coming into this environment that so few women get 232 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: to experience, that we are special and we should feel 233 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: special about ourselves. And you clearly get it now. 234 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and my daughter, my doctor Flower, says to 235 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 4: me all the time, Mom, this is your chapter. Now, 236 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: this is your turn. You're living what people did in 237 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 4: their twenties because you were raising a sick child. You're 238 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 4: doing in your sixties. And how fun is that and 239 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: how much wisdom now that you. 240 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: Have, right well, and that's what makes it so much 241 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: better because you've had your life, your experiences, and now 242 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: again it's time for you and to be able to 243 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: do something like this. 244 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: Do you think do you think it's harder or easier 245 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 2: at this age to date with all the things you 246 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: have in your life. 247 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: I think. 248 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 4: It might be easier just because you're a little more pickier. 249 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You're not falling for the lines? Yeah? Really? Right? Okay, 250 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: come on, now, you know what I'm saying, Like really, 251 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 4: you know you can see through that. I don't want 252 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 4: to say it the bs. 253 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so and so you clearly are. I love 254 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: you because you're direct like I am. And I love 255 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: that you say what you mean, You mean what you say. 256 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: How shocked were you when you I wasn't. How shocked 257 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: were you when you got the first impression? Bross? 258 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? I was floored at first. I 259 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 4: was out of my mind. I was like I couldn't 260 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 4: even say I'm sure that that's what came across. I'm like, 261 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: what did he just call my name? Really? Did I really? My? My? 262 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: My? 263 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 4: Both my girls were when they got engaged. It was 264 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 4: a surprise. I know how they felt. 265 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 3: With that felt like this because I was surprise. 266 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 4: I had no idea. 267 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: Listen, Jerry, you clearly are someone who is who they 268 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: say they are. And I think I think everyone sees 269 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: that about you in this first episode. Really, I think so. 270 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: I mean I I was not at all surprised that, 271 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: and the lady. 272 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 4: Said that all the ladies, even though they clearly knew 273 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: what it meant. When I saw the rose, you know me, 274 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: you know, I was happy drinking my prosecco. I was 275 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 4: happy to have lamark. I was a happy even though 276 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 4: the good time. 277 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: I look good, I feel good. 278 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 4: I'm not taking care of anybody. 279 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: Jerry. I beat a track to the bar. I had 280 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: like a little golden pathway to the bar. 281 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: I know, why does a bartender know my name? But 282 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 4: it was just a lot. But I was happy. I 283 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 4: was happy. So when the rose came, I was like down. 284 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: When it was on the table on the plate, I said, oh, 285 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: that's a pretty rose. Let me go get some more 286 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 4: of lamarca. And that's how I I just didn't. I 287 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 4: had no idea I had. 288 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: It's a nice surprise, but I feel like you're the 289 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: girl who you're the woman who just is who you are. 290 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: You come out as yourself. And I think Mel really 291 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: appreciated that because I want to know what you think. 292 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: You know what you went through, right, you had all 293 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: the girls. What do you think he was going through 294 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: that first night? What do you think? Well? 295 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 4: I was just getting ready to say that. First of all, 296 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 4: he had to face all us beautiful women when you 297 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 4: walked into that that that living room, and you could 298 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: tell he was like, oh you know what I mean, Like. 299 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: I mean, can you ask? And can you imagine? I 300 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: think I hope everybody when they watched this first episode 301 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: gives this guy some grace. I know you all did, 302 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: because how many times personally I can speak, have said 303 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: stupid things off the cuff. And I think when he 304 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: saw you women, I think it was a you know, 305 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: a slap, not literally, but a slap in the face. 306 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: Well he got a puppet slap, but you know what 307 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it was I think he really 308 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: thought Wow. I think do you agree? Oh? 309 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 4: I agree one hundred, one hundred and fifty percent. Yeah, 310 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 4: I agree, because I sat there, I saw them, I 311 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 4: saw and you know what I saw more than anything. 312 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 4: I saw their hearts. I saw their hearts. I mean 313 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 4: I was like the person they came to to pray 314 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 4: for every day, whatever they were playing, I was praying 315 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: for them whatever. And they all really accepted his apology. 316 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 4: I felt that very sincerely. 317 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: You know, even I did one of them. I did 318 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: it because I was one to judge. I didn't like 319 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: what he had to say. I was like, okay, hearing 320 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: him and being humble and really was grateful for the 321 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: in this that you women gave. 322 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 3: Him, and I love to start over, for this. 323 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: Journey that he wanted to go on. I really took 324 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: a different. 325 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 4: Who's perfect. The only man I know that's perfect is 326 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 4: the man upstairs. 327 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: We all open our mouths and insert foot from time 328 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: to time. 329 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: I do it a lot. 330 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: I also you all when he apologized, and I thought 331 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: his his reaction was real. I mean, I don't think 332 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: there's anything put on about that, and I think a 333 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: lot of people. You guys, I mean, did you feel 334 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: like this is not going to go well until you 335 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: saw him. I just wonder how you felt up coming 336 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: up to it, because we're I mean, yeah, I'm talking 337 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: about what he had said. Were you like this guy's 338 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: really gonna have to prove it to me, because I 339 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: love a man who will say I need to earn 340 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: it back, and I about him. 341 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 4: I think so. And I'm telling you I heard the 342 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 4: comment and I'm like, what's up with that? And then 343 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 4: you know, you know the rumors they're getting rid of them, 344 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 4: they have a new one whatever, And I was just like, 345 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 4: you know what I'm going, and I'm going because some 346 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 4: people said, oh, you shouldn't go. Why are you going? 347 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 4: They were just talking. They didn't know what was going on. 348 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 4: They didn't even know I was going to be on 349 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 4: the show. I didn't know, and I was like, come on, guys, 350 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 4: let's give him some I'm when I say, even when 351 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 4: we were interviewing the first night, they said to me that, 352 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 4: I said, you know what, I hear what you all 353 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 4: are saying. I accept his apology, and don't ask me 354 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 4: that anymore. 355 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 2: I just don't. 356 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 4: I don't want to hear it behind me. It's behind 357 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 4: me very sincere very. 358 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: And that's okay, let's start this over. 359 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: Okay. So, so, so we're we're all in a love melfest. 360 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: Now I haven't met him yet, but I'm looking forward. 361 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 4: You haven't met mew. 362 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 2: No, I'm looking forward to it, but I want to 363 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: know uh that I have to tell you I went 364 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 2: into paralysis over the cheerleading. I was the cheerleader. Uh 365 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: but the fact that you all learned those cheers that 366 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: cheer so quickly. Tell me about that. What was that 367 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: like for you doing and seeing Paula? What? 368 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 4: First of all? First of all, just well back up. 369 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 4: We were listening to her song the Oh my God. 370 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 4: So we were all excited. I'm team Paula. I'm team 371 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 4: So we get out there and when they we thought 372 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 4: we're going to play flag football. You know, us women 373 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 4: were we like to take control. We kind of know 374 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 4: what's going to go on. We all we know that 375 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 4: and we had no idea. So when she came out, 376 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 4: it was like, oh my goodness, and you want us 377 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 4: to do what now? 378 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: Wait? Well wait, Jerry, you all, I'm assuming you came 379 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: to the stadium in your cheer outfits? Yes, no, oh 380 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: put them on? Okay? 381 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: I asked Kathy with the costumes and we had to Yeah. 382 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 2: I you remember he came. 383 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 4: We came an athletic where okay, and we're just like, okay, 384 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 4: we're gonna have to play flag. 385 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: That makes sense. Okay, that makes total sense because and 386 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: that's and every. 387 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 4: Every one of us said that. Everyone said the flag football, 388 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 4: We're gonna do some type of drill or he's gonna 389 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 4: make us exhaust. You know, we all. 390 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: You know, who can throw the longest pass kind of thing? 391 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 4: Ye, who can throw the longest who can catch them? 392 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: We all? 393 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 4: And when he. 394 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: Impressed, I will say, he looked it was it's both 395 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: of you. 396 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 2: Both teams did a great job. I mean you really did. 397 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 2: You know. 398 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 4: We had a few that were like, okay, Jerry, be serious, 399 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 4: now come on, Cherry, leave me alone. But you know, 400 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 4: but some are very serious. And I and I was. 401 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 4: I was good because I was a dancer a little bit. 402 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: And look my daughter did cheer was. 403 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: There were a lot of dancer. I mean there's you, 404 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: there's uh, Cindy's a dancer. There's a couple of other 405 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: dancers there was. 406 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 4: They were phenomenal. They were. But you know what was 407 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 4: good about they all help us. They helped us. 408 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 2: Okay, that's what women do, left, Jerry, that's what women. 409 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: At this point in time. 410 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: Is your heart getting like are you into him? 411 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 3: Are you watching it? 412 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 4: Into him? 413 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: Okay? 414 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 4: Okay, A lot of them were already into him. Okay, 415 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 4: I was getting there, I. 416 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: Was getting so So who were your friends? I want 417 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: to know because on our season there, as you just 418 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: pointed out, there were some women in our season that 419 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 2: were more into Gary in the beginning than others of us. 420 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: So who did you gravitate to? Who are your friends? 421 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: And how did that work with the positioning, if you will? 422 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: With mel well with. 423 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 4: Us, we had the smallest room, but we had the 424 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 4: best room. We had Carol Carol who is my ace, 425 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: Carol Carroll Carroll, And we had Cindy who was in 426 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 4: our room. So she used to come over and like, 427 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 4: this is your room, get out, So she said, would 428 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 4: come over, get out, Cidy. And then we had Amy 429 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 4: and then Robin. 430 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: Those are great women, and then we had. 431 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 4: The other ones that came in. We were like the 432 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: party room to the to the point the handlers used 433 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 4: to say, are you guys, okay, what are you doing here? 434 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 4: And we're like, you know, I can the smallest room. 435 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: Everybody congregated, right. 436 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: That's funny because Susan and I were in the master 437 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: and that's where everyone and Teresa came and wanted to 438 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: do yoga, and they threw her out April on our 439 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: shape rooms. They get out of here, get out of here, 440 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 2: go to room. 441 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 4: Do you know in that big room, one of the 442 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 4: big rooms, there was a sign that says we are 443 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 4: sleep at nine. Don't disturb, And I'm like, can I 444 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: go and rip it off? 445 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: She should have been in our room, Kathy, are your roommates? 446 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: Were they the ones you gravitated to? 447 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: For you were close to somebody in another room at all? 448 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 4: You know what, It's interesting because I I prayed a 449 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 4: lot with everybody. Everybody. I had a prayer and I 450 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 4: have on my nice stand, I had Jeremiah twenty nine 451 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 4: for I have the plan but to prosper you, not 452 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 4: to harm you, but to bring you hope for the future. 453 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 4: So if somebody was having some problems with another lady, 454 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 4: Jerry prayed with me. Okay, come on, well, funny. 455 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: You should mention that. Because it seemed that the women 456 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 2: were getting frustrated with Nicole and her makeup sessions in 457 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: the pool. 458 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 3: Well that's some of them were, but it was Nicole 459 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: is passionate. 460 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 4: Nicole is very passionate, passionate and beautiful, and so she's 461 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 4: a little more open than maybe some of us are 462 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 4: or for that's how. 463 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: I'm not afraid to go up to them. 464 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, she's I mean that girl had her octopus 465 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: arms though. I was like, I have to say, those 466 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 2: arms wrapped around him. And when Cindy ever said she's Nicole, 467 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: she's climbing the tree, I died, could I could laughing? 468 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: But I just thought Nicole seemed good for her. But 469 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: I mean, I just wondered, because in our I'd be 470 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: lying if I didn't say. We had a couple of 471 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: women who were very territorial. Shall I say, that's a 472 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: good word, territorial, and it cost it caused a little friction. 473 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 2: So I just wonder, if you know, how were you feeling, 474 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 2: because clearly you're a peacemaker, You're you're stummach me. Yeah, well, 475 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: good justice, you're a woman of justice. There you go, 476 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 2: But how how did that feel? 477 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 4: It didn't bother me, didn't Honestly, it really wasn't like Joe. 478 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: You don't want to get your lips on that. Come on, I. 479 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 4: Did get my lips on it, Cathy, So thank you 480 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 4: very much. 481 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: Excuse me, excuse me. 482 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: He's a great kisser. 483 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: Saw one of the first couple of kisses because I 484 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 1: had that in my notes like a kiss. It was like, 485 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: come on, now, give me something here. 486 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 4: No, I mean I kissed him. I kissed him. I 487 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 4: kissed him. Did I kiss him that night? Maybe? 488 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, yet that I saw that. 489 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not ladies, I'm not dead. Did you get 490 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: the butterflies then? Did you feel special? 491 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 4: Oh? I felt like Cinderella. Yes, and I still feel 492 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 4: like Cinderella. And I will share with you, ladies. And 493 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 4: you can take this the way you want it. And 494 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 4: he has big hands, so you can take that anyway. 495 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: You can't enough said, can we talk about the outdoor 496 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: rose ceremony? 497 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 3: That was cool? 498 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 4: Oh? 499 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 3: That was the first night? Like how long that night goes? 500 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 4: Right? Oh, you mean the first first night when I 501 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 4: GotY first night. But you know what, you aren't such 502 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 4: a high. I know we had this question here. This 503 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: says how is your endurance? I used to work three 504 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 4: jobs and I worked the night shift day shift, so 505 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 4: I had two jobs in the morning during the day, 506 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 4: twenty four hours I worked. So for me to be 507 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 4: like that or nothing good, it was nothing and I 508 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 4: was on a high. I'm gonna mansion. Wait. 509 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 2: I want to know when you worried about obviously you 510 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 2: got the first impression rose, But on the second ceremony, 511 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: how were you feeling? 512 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 4: No? You know why because I did my little Jeremy 513 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 4: my prayer and I want to say the second ceremony, 514 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 4: I think he came out in a burgundy suit, if 515 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 4: I remember correctly. And when I saw that burgundy suit, 516 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 4: because I looked up and I said, come on, David, 517 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 4: I'm getting nervous. And when he came out in a 518 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 4: burgundy suit that was my husband's school, Morehouse College, I said, 519 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 4: I got a road. I'm not even thinking about it. 520 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: Well, yes, you did have a rose, and you didn't 521 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: need to think about it. 522 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: You just knew you were getting it. 523 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 4: I knew it. 524 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 2: Wow, I knew. 525 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 4: Because of what I asked for and I saw and 526 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure it was that burgundy suit he wore, 527 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 4: and I just knew what. 528 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: Now, the first rows it got you. 529 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: The second you strike me as a very confident and 530 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 2: know who you are kind of woman, which I personally 531 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 2: love because I want women our age to feel that way. 532 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: And the more of us out there that are espousing this, 533 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 2: the better I like it. 534 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 4: I hope, and I hope they see that about me. 535 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 4: Now take all this X to interior, you know me, 536 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 4: but late, I just want them to know they can 537 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 4: do this. They can do this. Is it hard in 538 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 4: the beginning, yes, yes, but take it one second at 539 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 4: a time, one minute out of a time, one hour 540 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 4: at a time, and just go and have fun. That's 541 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: what it's all about. 542 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: So I have to ask you when we saw two 543 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: rose ceremonies, so we're you surprised at the second row ceremony? 544 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: Who had to leave? 545 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: Or did? 546 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 4: You don't know if I was surprised, I was just 547 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 4: sad because I had formed a bond. 548 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, we hate it saying goodbye to Kathy. 549 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 4: Right, it's wrenching. It's wrenching. And but you know I 550 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 4: never sat around and said when who's gone home today? 551 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 4: Who's gone home today? I just never. It must have 552 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 4: been the maker of the prosecco. I don't know. I 553 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 4: just never. 554 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 3: But we all had to be prepared to leave. 555 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: Well, we had to, and I yes, you have to be, Yes, 556 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: you have to be. 557 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 4: But I didn't, you know, because it's almost like we 558 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 4: were competing, but we're really not competing because we're all 559 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: in fa other's cheerleader. 560 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: Well that's actually a question I was. I wanted to 561 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: ask you, Jerry, did you feel people used to ask 562 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: us this. Did you feel like you were in a 563 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: competition or an adventure to find love? Or are they 564 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: the same thing? 565 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 4: I mean, a competition with the other ladies. 566 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, yes, I mean there was a. 567 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 4: Little competitive there. There was this a little bit. I mean, 568 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 4: you always got the ones who always ran up to. 569 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: Him first, pushing their way out the door of the Yeah, 570 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: knocking me down? 571 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: Is it always Nicole? 572 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 4: We love her? But you know it's okay because if 573 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 4: you're confident in yourself, he'll see me well. 574 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: And also, don't you think we're only in the first episode. 575 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: But I and I certainly don't know how it ends. 576 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: But I from our season, even though Gary and Teresa 577 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 2: didn't make it, I think the process itself works. Do 578 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: you Oh? I do? 579 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely I do. I mean people say and you 580 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 4: get your people who say, oh, you can't find love 581 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 4: in that time. You know, you get those people. There's 582 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 4: always going to be someone saying something. But see, my 583 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 4: husband walked down the the hospital going to see a 584 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: sick patient. I saw him and was like, oh my god, 585 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 4: I'm going to. 586 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: Marry that man. 587 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 3: That's what Cathy says. 588 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: Jerry, I met my husband the first night of college 589 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: at a fraternity party, looked at him across the room 590 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: and looked at my sweet man, said you see that 591 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: guy over there, because I said I'm going to marry him, 592 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: and eighteen months later I did. I got it. Yeah, 593 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 2: I believe in chemistry. I mean you said it. You 594 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: used the word chemistry. Chemistry is a real thing. 595 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 4: And right, so no matter who's pushing through you, no 596 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 4: matter who's doing he'll see you there. 597 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: At one point looking around, going I think, I see 598 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: these two look at each other, or I see you 599 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: never felt like that you were just good with everything. 600 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 4: I really was. I mean I could tell that, and 601 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 4: I mean I could tell there was he had an attraction. 602 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 4: I could see that. 603 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 3: Okay, you noticed that, Yes you can. How could you not? 604 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you can't have an equal attraction. But 605 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: I wish people this is my plug for mel and 606 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: with the same for Gary, that it's almost an untenable situation. 607 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: I mean, don't get me wrong, I would love to 608 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: be having twenty five, twenty three men whatever fawning over me. 609 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: Let's be clear, but I think it's got to be 610 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: so difficult for them, and I think when they handle 611 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: when when mel not only you know, he was coming 612 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: and digging out. Frankly, he had to come and dig 613 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: out and he did. 614 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 3: A great job and start at super. 615 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: So I you know, I give these guys great credit 616 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: and I give the women great credit because I'm a 617 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 2: big believer in women supporting women and to that end, 618 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: to that end, we've been bulleting you with questions, An, 619 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: you got anything before before we before we head out 620 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: of this great interview, do you have anything you want 621 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: to know about us? Questions? I do? 622 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 4: I mean, what is life after the bast What is 623 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 4: life life? For you all? What is life like? 624 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: It's still just as great as when you're on the show. 625 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: Because for me, I love myself from being on that show. 626 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm okay with who I am, you know what I mean? 627 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: Like I was like, you. 628 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 4: Were like that before you even went on the show, though, Susan, 629 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 4: you were like. 630 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: So I always was me and Kathy I can say 631 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: for both of us, so I'm sure unapologetically authentically us I. 632 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 3: Am who I am. 633 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: But after being on that show, it gave me more confidence, 634 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: if you will, I was okay with somebody else being 635 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: happier than I got to be, you know, and happy 636 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: for them. 637 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: For me, I knew pretty quickly that Gary. By the way, 638 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: this is hard Jerry Gary. I'm trying to keep the 639 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: name straight here. Just I know Erry I was pretty 640 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: clary times. 641 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 3: We call him that guy. 642 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that Gary and I were not going to 643 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: be a nice guy, but not my right. But but 644 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 2: I will tell you the big for me being on 645 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: that show was a gift my husband. I'm sure you 646 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: know my husband died by suicide and so for me, 647 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: so for me, it helped bring me back to life 648 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: and give me help me find that joy again. But 649 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: the biggest takeaway for me from being on the show, 650 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: and I still feel it to this day, is when 651 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: somebody says to me, Kathy, listening to you, I now 652 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: I feel like I have a purpose. I want to 653 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: live my life. I want to that. I am so 654 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 2: grateful that this experience means something to other people that 655 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: they can find joy. They can say, you know what, 656 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: if she can do it, I can do it. So 657 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: to be that little, maybe little example for someone to 658 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: feel better about themselves, that is everything to. 659 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 4: Me right right now. That's spot on. That's how exactly 660 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 4: how I feel. I can heal you, I can bring 661 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 4: you back to life, but your soul and just to 662 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 4: make you feel good about yourself. That's something that's within. 663 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 4: And now I'm her. 664 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: Comfort zone, going on to something. I mean, you're on 665 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: national TV. That's not in your everyday comfort zone. 666 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 667 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 4: No, no, but I want to help. I'm whoever it is, 668 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 4: whoever's whoever knows me. I'm a I'm a giver. That's 669 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 4: my love language. I'm a giver. I do it like 670 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 4: blinking my eyes. It's like blinking my eyes. It's so natural. 671 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 4: And I'll feed you. I don't eat, but I feed people. 672 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 4: And they say that all the time. 673 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 3: But what about as far as people I do, I 674 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 3: feed them. 675 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 4: They'll tell you that she never eats. But as far 676 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 4: as like the publicity all that, Like, I don't have 677 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 4: to be the center of attraction that you will be. 678 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 4: You will. 679 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: People will recognize you, and it's always warm and loving 680 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: and you've given us hope, like there's you're never too 681 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,959 Speaker 1: old to live. It's not over in your sixties. It's 682 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: just beginning, you know. 683 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 3: And that share that message and people just will love you. 684 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 4: Yes, I said We're strong, sassy, and sexy. That's us. 685 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 686 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: I think that's a great place to end it. Thank 687 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: God says it all. 688 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 4: When you come to Rockville, I want you guys to 689 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 4: look me up please. 690 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 3: Well, we'll share each other's numbers afterwards. 691 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 4: Thank you. 692 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: It was so much fun and we want to thank you. 693 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: You're such a wonderful guest. 694 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 4: Jerry. 695 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 3: We're so happy that you're in our lives now. 696 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 4: Welcome to the Oh, yes you are. You know, if 697 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 4: I had known you sooner, I would invite you to 698 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 4: the wedding on Saturday. 699 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: I'm telling you I could have officiated the wedding now 700 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: you tell me. 701 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, I knew she'd get that in. But but Jerry, 702 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 2: really and it's been a delight getting to know you better. 703 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 2: And we also want to take all of our listeners. 704 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: Be sure to tune in follow Bachelor Happy Hour. 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