1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Wednesday, 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: February second, and Tuesday was one of those wacky, wild 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: kool Aid style days. You know. It opens with, you know, 5 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: mid morning, Tom Brady retiring, right, and that's like massive news. 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: It's official, it's official, Oh my goodness. And the consternation 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: lasted like two hours before another NFL bombshell hit and 8 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: it was a big one. Um. Unfortunately, we had a 9 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: guest booked. We recorded yesterday after the news broke. His 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: name is Greg Bdard. You guys know him. He used 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: to be a big Boston newspaper guy, started his own shop. 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: And as a guy who started his own shop, I 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: love that for Greg Badart, Boston sports journal. I'm sure 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: I know a lot of listeners in Boston subscribe. It's 15 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: a great resource. He's also doing a lot of radio 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: and TV, so you'll enjoy the interview. And he's covered Flores. 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna steal his thunder, but him and Flores 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: have had some words before. Brian Flores, of course, the 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: former Miami Dolphins coach. Can we call him a former 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: NFL coach. Now, it doesn't seem like prospects are good 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: for him returning to the NFL after you sue the league. Um, 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: you know again, but Darts has a lot of good stuff. 23 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: You guys have to wait for the interview and his insight. 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: I have some other thoughts that I slept on, and 25 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, now I wake up and I I think 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm a little more clear eyed on this one than 27 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: I was yesterday right after the news hit. You know, 28 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: you're just like, WHOA this fifty eight page lawsuit? This 29 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: is crazy? A billionaire owner willing to just pay six 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: figures so you could lose games and tank for Joe 31 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Burrow or Justin Herbert, Like, well, actually it was for 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow because Justin Herbert went one pick after two. 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Uh and um, that's one of the allegations. Listen, this 34 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: is tough, guys. It's a difficult one because Brian Flores 35 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: says a lot of really smart stuff in the lawsuit 36 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: and he's basically falling on his sword so those who 37 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: come after him have life easier. And I didn't realize this. 38 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: It's in a lot of these stories today. But thirty 39 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: two NFL teams there were nine coaching openings um this offseason. 40 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: There's one black coach and I think the number I saw, 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: we're sixty percent of the league is African American players, 42 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: and he got one black coach, Mike and Mike Tomlin 43 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: a little jarring. And it's weird because the NFL has 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: continually this Lee said, we want to get better with 45 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: improving hiring practices. We really want to um get more 46 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: minorities in there, because our league is follow minorities now 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: most of the almost all the owners are white guys, 48 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: and the NFL continues to tweak the Rooney rule. But 49 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: you know, when you really think about is the Rooney 50 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: rule working, It's kind of sort of like I was 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: thinking of an analogy. It's like every year you start 52 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: out with I'm going to go to the gym, I'm 53 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 1: gonna eat better, i'm gonna be healthier, I'm not gonna 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: drink as much, and you try really, really hard, and 55 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: then next thing you know, two weeks in, you finished 56 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: dinner and you're just like, damn, I'm still hungry. I'm 57 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: let me dig into some ice cream and I'm gonna 58 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: have a nice cool glass of Scotch neat and it's 59 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: like you want to get better. You say all the 60 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: right things, but your actions speak louder than your words, 61 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: Like are you really trying to stay in shape and 62 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: get healthy and eat better and drink less? Not some 63 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: people that they don't want to do that, that's fine, 64 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: but the people who want to do that, are you trying? 65 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: And you just wonder you look around the league? Are 66 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: they trying to do better and hire more black coaches? 67 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: Is that like a thing that they're really trying to 68 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: do or they're just saying that because man, it's this 69 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: lawsuits bad. I mean, flora Is essentially took himself out 70 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: of the running for the Houston job. How how how are 71 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: they possibly gonna hire him when he has a lawsuit 72 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: against the leak. It's pretty clear that he thought he 73 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: was going to get either the New York Giants job, 74 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: which went to Brian Dable, or he was going to 75 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: get another one, and the particularly the New York Giants 76 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: job ended ugly with this whole Bill Belichick texting um 77 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: Bill Bell and I'm sure you guys have seen the 78 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: text by now. Bill Belichick sends a text to Brian Dable, 79 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: Congratulations man, Um on the job. That's great news. Uh, 80 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: let me read the exact Belichick text message, because obviously 81 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: this is making the rounds on the internet. It sounds 82 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: like you have landed. Congrats. Did you hear something I 83 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: didn't hear, responds Brian Flores giants exclamation mark question mark, 84 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: exclamation amount question mark and then Brian Flores kind of 85 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: deflating I interview Thursday. I think I have a shot 86 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: at it. Belichick, got it. I hear from Buffalo and 87 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: New York that you are their guy. Hope it works 88 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: out if you want it. And then Brian Flores, that's 89 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: definitely what I want. I hope you're right. Coach, thank you. 90 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: And then coach, are you talking about Brian Flores or 91 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: Brian Dable? Just making sure because they both coached in 92 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: New England, both named Brian. Sorry, I f this up. 93 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: I double checked and I misread the text. I think 94 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: they are naming Dable. I'm sorry about that. Gosh, it's 95 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: gotta be just deflating when you're Bryan Flores reading that 96 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: the Belichick knowing Now. I'm not going to get into 97 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: whether it was a sham the interview that they were 98 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: having for Flores. I don't know if the giants had 99 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: interviewed other black candidates before they were going to interview Flores. 100 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: Are there sham interviews? Of course there are, Come on, 101 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: you know that. So it's a given the is gonna happen. Um. 102 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: It's it's bad. It's ugly. I mean you and people 103 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: call it out as soon as they see it happening. Um. 104 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: But for Belichick to get involved, it's just ghastly. And 105 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: you know, you look at the aspect where John Elway, 106 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: he was in Flores was interviewing with John Elway, and 107 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: he says, John Elway came in an hour late for 108 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: the interview and he was disheveled from what allegedly was 109 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: a full night out of boozing it up, and like 110 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: did he care about the Byron Brian Flora's interview that 111 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: he Flora says. The next day or whatever, forty eight 112 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: hours later, they bring in Vic Fonio, and it's like, 113 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: you feel bad for Flora's and it's like, well, should 114 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: he have waited out the cycle and maybe gotten a 115 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: job and then but no, he was already painted by 116 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: that jerk, that billionaire. Yeah, I should bring in what 117 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying that Bill near Steven ross In Miami. You 118 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: guys know him a Jets fan, So obviously I do 119 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: not like Steven ross at all. I did find this interesting. 120 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: He's one of these uh big pro pro Publica calls 121 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: him the second wealthiest real estate titan in America Steven 122 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: ross Um. And of course he's one of these guys 123 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: who claims he loses all this money on real estate 124 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: when in reality he's making a ton so he doesn't 125 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: pay federal income taxes. You know, one of those like 126 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: just smartie dudes. You just don't like that guy. I 127 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: don't like the Dolphins at all. Uh, their GM stinks career. 128 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: And now you gotta wonder who wants that job you're 129 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: going in when you know the owner was like, hey, 130 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: I want to pay you to tank, and Flores is like, no, 131 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm not tanking. What are you doing winning games in spite? 132 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: So basically now you're not a team player. Well do 133 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: we want to get better with you? Tanking because you're 134 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: winning these games doesn't help. I mean, there's like a 135 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: there isn't there a Major League vibe to that? Remember 136 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: the movie Major League, one of the best baseball movies ever. 137 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: It's just I don't know, man, this this story is ugly. 138 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: It's surely not what the NFL needed on a day 139 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: that everybody was championing the career of the goat Tom Brady, 140 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: and it's upstaged by racist drama in the NFL. Not good? 141 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: All right, Let's get to our interview with the one 142 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: and only Greg Badard. Fox Sports Radio has the best 143 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 144 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the 145 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 146 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: Jason likes to think he knows everything when it comes 147 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: to sports. I know what sports dance want, but for 148 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: everything he doesn't, he knows a guy who does. Let's 149 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: just say I know a guy who knows he knows 150 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: another guy. All right, let's welcome in a friend of 151 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: the podcast. I've known him for a while. I would 152 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: see him at the super Bowl, obviously read his stuff. 153 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: He's just plugged in on the Patriots as anybody. Greg Badard, 154 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: Boston Sports Journal, Greg, how are you man? Good? What's up? 155 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: J Mac? You know? You know I was hoping once 156 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady left the Patriots they would kind of fall 157 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: out of can the mix? Nobody would care about them anymore? 158 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: They'd be irrelevant. You know, my Jets could rise to 159 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: the top. But I don't know. They got Mac Jones, 160 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: they got to the playoffs. H Josh McDaniels just left, 161 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: and uh, this Tuesday bombshell with Holy Cow, Brian Flores 162 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: is suing Brian floor is, a former Patriot coach, is 163 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: suing the Dolphins and the Giants, and I guess the league. Greg, 164 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: this is a stunner, the funniest Well, it's not funny, Greg. 165 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: He was supposedly in the mix for the Houston Texas job. 166 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: Is this him saying I don't want that damn job. 167 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to go to the Houston Texas. I'd 168 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: rather see the league. Like, what's going on? I'm stunned. Yeah, 169 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: A couple of things on this, Jay Mac. First of all, Um, 170 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe when it broke. I was live on 171 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: the air here in Boston. I saw somebody retweeting on 172 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: Twitter and I clicked the link and I'm like reading 173 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: through and I'm like, this can't be real, Like the 174 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: Belichick quote at the top, and then like Stephen Ross 175 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: is giving up money and I'm like, for a second, 176 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, I try not this spread disinformation on Twitter. 177 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: I was just like, is this for real? And then 178 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: then suddenly you're like, Okay, yeah, it is real and 179 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: it's it's unbelievable. Brian Flores is a guy I covered 180 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: here with the Patriots. UM. I had an interesting relationship 181 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: with him here. Uh let's just say he he often 182 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: knew what I was saying and writing about the team 183 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: and would often use it, uh to motivate his players 184 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: and himself, including after the I think it was the 185 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: Falcon Super Bowl, he tapped me on the shoulder in 186 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: the locker room and said, you thought we couldn't do it? 187 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: And we got into a whole interaction there. So after 188 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: winning the super Bowl, Yeah, like minutes after winning a 189 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: super Bowl, he tapped me on the shoulder to say 190 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: like he didn't think we could do it. And then 191 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: I was just like, wait, what is he talking about? 192 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: I picked them to win the super Bowl for the season, 193 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: I picked them to win this game. What's he talking about? 194 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, I know what it was. I 195 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: said if Patrick Chung is playing safety for this team, 196 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: and maybe it was uh, they're not winning a super 197 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: Bowl And he's like and I was like, oh, I 198 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: understand now, what you're talking about. And and I was like, Brian, 199 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: you gotta admit Patrick was not playing safety for you guys, 200 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: wasn't playing deep safety. He was playing linebacker. He said, no, 201 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: we played safety a lot. I'm like, no, he didn't. 202 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: I can show you that. But anyways, we got no 203 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: whole argument about that. But Verry Baker Mayfield of him, 204 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: huh like monitoring what that people are saying about him. 205 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: But you know, so that just goes to show how 206 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: much of a competitor Brian is. And he can be 207 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of a hothead at times. And so 208 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: my initial thoughts about this are, first of all, props 209 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: to him for taking this step, because look, unless there's 210 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: a forward thinking team and maybe the Patriots maybe they 211 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: maybe he I don't even know what the Belichick text involved. 212 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if that closes it off. He could 213 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: get the Mangini treatment now. But a lot of props 214 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: for him taking this step because he's putting his career 215 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: on the line, which he acknowledged. He could very easily 216 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: be Colin Kaepernick after this, which is unfortunate because I 217 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: think he's he's a he's an excellent head coach. I 218 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: think he's an excellent coach overall. I don't understand the 219 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: timing of it. There's still five head coaching positions available, which, 220 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: like you said, he's at least in the mix in Houston, 221 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: which is where I thought maybe he could land. I 222 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: could see. I don't understand the timing on why not 223 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: why not a month from now when all those he's 224 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: not hired, he doesn't get a job, and you know 225 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: he does this, and um, you know I I just think, uh, 226 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, he's he props to him for for for 227 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: taking a step, but involving Belichick, that's another sort of Okay. 228 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna come of that. It's just 229 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of different thoughts. I know 230 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: people are gonna think that that's a smoking gun to 231 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: text where Belichick was texting Brian uh dable but it 232 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: went to Flores because Brian Brian mix up and Bill Bill. 233 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: Bill has said he doesn't understand Facebook and all this stuff. 234 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: Maybe he's not good at text. Um. I do want 235 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: to ask, what's the Manini treatment? Is that based? Really? 236 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: That Belichick doesn't talk to him anymore because of what 237 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: went down with uh some of these it wasn't spy gate, 238 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: which one was, a deflate gate, which one was? It was? 239 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: I mean it was first of all, Belichick didn't want 240 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: Manginia to go to the Jets and counseled him against that, 241 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: and then he took like guys like Brian Dave Ball 242 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: and some other guys with him, and then the whole 243 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: spygate thing, and he's been sort of persona on grata 244 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: ever since. And you know, it's one thing to file 245 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: suit against the legal alleging racism in their hiring practices, 246 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: which I think we can all acknowledge goes on. Um. 247 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: It's quite another to use Bill Belichick's text as the 248 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: key evidence in that. And for Belichick's you know, stuff 249 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: to be put on display, he doesn't really like that. 250 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: And look, I can just see Bill being like, look, 251 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm almost seventy years old. I had a senior moment. 252 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you want for me? Like it's 253 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's any evidence of anything, but yeah, 254 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. Like it doesn't seem like he may. 255 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: It seemed like Belichick had inside information that it was 256 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: going to be dable, and it doesn't look good when 257 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: he's like, wait, I interviewed Thursday, what are you talking about? 258 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: You know? And he could have been just like I 259 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: heard that there. I mean, you know how many Yeah, 260 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I know Belichick claims to not follow the media, 261 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: but Schefter and Rappid where all these guys are saying 262 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: stuff about it constantly. Um had hired the Giants, had 263 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: hired the Bills assistant general manager as GM who worked 264 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: with day Ball, So it was you know that she 265 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: got hired with the Giants. It's natural, just in rumormongering 266 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, I think they're going towards day 267 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: Ball whenever he's done with this season. I am curious 268 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: what you make of the Steven Ross stuff. According to Flores, 269 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: Steven Ross offered him a hundred thousand dollars for every 270 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: loss so that they could get a better draft position. Obviously, 271 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: Ross was ticked off that Flores was somehow winning games 272 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: and they ended up with Tua instead of Oh my gosh, 273 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: Herbert or Joe Burrow. Uh Stephen Ross. What do you 274 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: know about him? Is that other than being like a filthy, 275 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: rich screwsman, Scrooge McDuck type fellow. From what I've heard 276 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: about the operation down there, it doesn't surprise me. I 277 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: also didn't like that Brian Flora's got fired because I 278 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: think he did a really nice job this year. Um, 279 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, I I think I think that was in terms. 280 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: We all know there's racism in the NFL's hiring. We 281 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: know there's one black coach in the league. I mean, 282 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't take a genius to understand that right now. Yeah, 283 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: one thirty one or whatever it is. Yeah, it's just 284 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, I think right now. Um, but I think 285 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: that Stephen Ross stuff is probably going to be the 286 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: most actionable stuff in the lawsuit in that Roger Goodell 287 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: has to open an investigation. Uh, as long as somebody 288 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: else backs up what flora says, and somebody will some 289 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: Flora's probably told somebody. As long as they do that, 290 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: I think Steven Ross is looking at at least a 291 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: year long suspension and and forfarshire of money and draft 292 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: picks if it goes to the competitive nature of the game. 293 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: This we're talking about an NFL team and NFL owner 294 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: incentivizing throwing National Football League games. It's it's huge, just 295 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: not quite up there with gambling and putting money on it. 296 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: But I think that is that's huge, and I don't 297 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: think it will be difficult to prove um. In the NBA. 298 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: They made the Clippers. I forget the Clippers. Donald Sterling 299 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: was forced to sell the team. Do you foresee anything 300 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: like that with Ross? I know the NFL involved a 301 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: lot more racist stuff. But if if, if, if Flores 302 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, continues this out and they've got more bullets 303 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: in the chamber here to fire. I don't know how's 304 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: Ross's standing among the owners. He's not one of like 305 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: the inner core guys. You know, the way Goodell deals 306 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: with these guys, it's never ultimately on the owner. They'll 307 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: slap him on the wrist as long as he takes 308 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: is the big thing that I've learned from covering the 309 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: NFL for twenty years J Mack is if you do 310 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: something wrong, even if it's really awful, as long as 311 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: you just own up to it quickly and take your punishment, 312 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: all right, people get over it. And also the good 313 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: ol goes a little bit lighter if you don't admitute, 314 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: like say de Flate Gate, and you go all the 315 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: way to circuit court, then all of a sudden you're 316 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: talking about four games suspension for Tom Brady and fines 317 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: and draft picks and things like that. So, uh, it 318 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: depends on what else comes out. But if if it's 319 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: just this, a hundred thousand dollars too for each loss, Uh, 320 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: to me, Ross is at least looking at a suspension 321 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: for a year plus other stuff. Alright, sticking with the Patriots, 322 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels leaves. Now, Greg, I think back in the 323 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: day you maybe I had you on my radio show, 324 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: But at the general sense was McDaniels was going to 325 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: be the coach in waiting in New England. He was 326 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: gonna wait it out. He had that opportunity with the Colts. 327 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: He went back. He's got the kids in school, and 328 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know about you. I'm I'm kind 329 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: of stunned he went to the Raiders. What were your 330 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: initial thoughts? Yeah, well I never and I knew there 331 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: was no sort of promise of Josh McDaniels coming back 332 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: and being the successor in waiting. There was. There was 333 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 1: none of that um from multiple people around the organization. 334 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: Um it you know, I think that McDaniels got uh 335 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: selective after that. Now, there was a time he took 336 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: the Browns and Eagles interviews. I think last year, that's 337 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: when they had no quarterback, they had no plan forward. 338 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: Tom Brady was gone. Nobody knew what Belichick's future was, 339 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: so maybe McDaniels thought, hey, I should at least listen 340 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: to these guys. I don't think it's gonna match because 341 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to basically chuck everything that they do 342 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: if they want to believe in me. Um. But I 343 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: think a big thing around here is nobody knows what 344 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: Bill's future is. He could he could seriously go another 345 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: ten years um here. I mean it's I wouldn't put 346 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: it past him. I mean I think it's more like 347 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: four or five, you know, to pass and things like that, 348 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: become the all time winning his coach. But uh, nobody's 349 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: banking on it. They don't know what the setups gonna 350 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: look like. There are guys who, quite frankly, don't really 351 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: want to be Bill Belichick's successor. I mean, the best 352 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: case scenario is your George Seaffert, and George Seffert won 353 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: two Super Bowl titles. He's still not in the Hall 354 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: of Fame and you can't do much better than that, 355 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: and so you're most likely to be and his name 356 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: is casing right now the guy who who uh I 357 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: think at Ben ben Getson, who succeeded Vince Lombardi in 358 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: Green Bay, You're more likely to be that. I mean, 359 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: it's a no win situation following Bill Belichick up here. 360 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: So Josh McDaniels was interested in taking a job that 361 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: aligned with what he wanted, which was basically partnering with 362 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: his type of GM, which he got in Dave Ziegler, 363 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: who's known back to going to their college days. Uh 364 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: with a with an owner who will not be asking 365 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: him XS and Oaks questions and analytic questions on every 366 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday after games like Jeffrey Lury and guys 367 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: like that. You know, Mark Davis, his hands off says, 368 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: you go run things, and this aligned. It's a tough 369 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: division with Herbert and Mahomes and who knows Rogers going 370 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: to the Broncos potentially. But if if McDaniels was going 371 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: to take a second job after being fired in Denver, 372 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: it needed to be this kind of set up. So 373 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: I think that's what a meal. Damn. Fox Sports Radio 374 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 375 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: all of our shows at Fox sports radio dot com. 376 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: And within the I Heart radio app search f s 377 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: R to listen live. So I am curious if McDaniels 378 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: is so loved around the league, if Indy wanted to 379 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: hire him, if he took interviews last year, the Raiders 380 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: got him. Now, why didn't the Patriots see him as 381 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, the successor to to Bill Belichick? Because I 382 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: don't think the Crafts. The Crafts give Belichick a wide 383 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: berth in terms of they don't they know, they're the 384 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: only ones who know what his contract is. But basically, 385 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: Belichick I think has carpe launched to stay as long 386 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: as he wants to, and nobody else is gonna approach 387 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: that subject with him. The Crafts barely do um And 388 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: so I just think that I don't think that was 389 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 1: an option, and I don't I don't know how appealing 390 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: it was to Josh McDaniels to stay here and possibly 391 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: succeed Belichick. But you also have to remember Matt Patricia's here. Now, 392 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: what's his He He had a wide ranging influence this year. 393 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: Is he now the favorite son? But you also the 394 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: other thing is the Patriots now recognize the Crafts, believe 395 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: that they are an iconic brand. Now that there isn't 396 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: any coach that they couldn't get should Belichick retire. I mean, 397 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: what's to say Sean Payton doesn't go to TV for 398 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: two or three years and Belichick retires. Who they have 399 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: a chorls for relationship with Peyton and Belichick. Uh, they 400 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: are pretty close. And the Crafts say, you know what 401 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: we want Sean Heyton. I don't put the past anybody 402 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: m interesting. So Matt Patricia's back in good graces despite 403 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: the abject failure in Detroit where he alienated players, media, everybody. 404 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: Everybody hated in there. Yeah, but that's outside of Gillette. 405 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Gillette is its own beast Belichick 406 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: that probably earned in points with Bill Belichick the way 407 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: he sort of did things. Um, but there's no there's 408 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: no denying Matt Patricia is extremely smart. He probably learned 409 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: some things like Josh McDaniels did from his time in Denver. 410 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: And look, he came back here and he was basically 411 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: on Belichick's hip all through training camp, was running some 412 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: of the practices, was up in the coaches booth, had 413 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: GM like rolls. He could slide into there. Now that 414 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: Dave Ziegler's gone, Uh, let's just say it's fair to 415 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: say that Matt Patricia uh is a favored nation you know, 416 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: at Gillette, and you know he could fill any role here. 417 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: Any thoughts on the idea of the theory that McDaniels 418 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: kind of you know, he saw a season of mac Jones. 419 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: He was like, if I can coach Derek Carr and 420 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: I could be the head coach, that's better than being 421 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator with Mac Jones. I don't believe that 422 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: at all. I think mc jones he's good. I think 423 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: he's good, um do I I don't know how good 424 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna be. I think he's he's probably top fifteen now. 425 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: I think he can get on the outer edges with 426 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: his car top fifteen. His car top fifteen probably just 427 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: just in front of mac Jones. But look, there's no 428 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: guarantee that, Yes, there's no guarantee that Derek Carr's the 429 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: Raider starter next years. I think they want to they 430 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: want to open, they want to work with him and 431 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: are definitely open to it. But he can be cut 432 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: or traded for no no cap hits, So who knows 433 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: what happens. You can just know that Josh McDaniels is 434 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: not going to make the same mistake he made with 435 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: Jake Cutler and well that going around behind his back 436 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: and making trades for Matt Castle and things like that. 437 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: So where do you let's say that he does not 438 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: want car do you have any guys you identify as 439 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: who he might want. Who's a Josh McDaniels type quarterback. 440 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's wide open. I think 441 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: they will entertain a lot of different options. I think 442 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: Garoppolo will be be a veriable available and knows the 443 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: offense and maybe would be a nice placeholder if you draft, 444 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: you know, a younger quarterback. Um would be possible, cheaper 445 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: option than car. Uh. And you never know, you know, 446 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: maybe Tom Brady gets a niche and wants to come back. No, 447 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: this is what I'm talking to a guy who covered 448 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: far in Green Bay. I don't rule anything out. Tom 449 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: Brady in Vegas with McDaniels is spicy. Alright, let's let's 450 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: wrap up with Brady. Um, I don't know what. I'm 451 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: still a little shocked, and again I need week one 452 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: to roll up. I know he sent out a ten 453 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: page Instagram thing and I get it, and he didn't 454 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: men in the Patriots. Oh my gosh. I mean he 455 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: mentioned them a couple of years ago when he left, 456 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, so I don't think that's a huge deal. 457 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: What are you making out of this? Big deal? Little deal, 458 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: no deal? What? I was a bit stunned to see 459 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: that there was zero mentioned of the Patriots in there, 460 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: and um, I think it was. I think it was. 461 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: It was obviously intentional. This is a guy who crafts 462 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: his brand, who knows everything, who made sure he got 463 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: his plugs in for his brand in his statement, did 464 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: not mention the Patriots once. And to me, I think 465 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: it speaks Jason too. Uh, the fact that Tom Brady 466 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: did not want to leave, that he still has a 467 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: grudge for not ending his career on his terms in 468 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: New England, where he thought that he had earned that 469 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: right and that respect. It was not reciprocated by Bill Belichick. 470 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: And I think that Brady is still is still bothered 471 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: by that. And we're talking about a guy who was 472 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: irked by being a six round draft pick. Lloyd Carr, 473 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: you know, the benchings of Michigan, still has all those 474 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 1: chips on his shoulder, and I think the Patriots are 475 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: now one of those chips. And I don't. Even though 476 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: I saw Brett Farve get over it with Green Bay 477 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: and Ted Thompson and those guys, I don't know. I 478 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: don't know if Brady is gonna get over that anytime soon. 479 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: Even though he won a super Bowl. That that's the 480 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: weirdest part to me, Like he left, he won a 481 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: super Bowl, like Bro, Bro, you won the breakup? Congrats Tom, 482 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: And he's still salty. I knowing Brady the way that 483 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, And I don't think that you know, 484 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: some of his family loved the way he was treated 485 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: when he came back here and played this year. I 486 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: think it's all sort of incompassing. I mean the interviews 487 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: that his dad get gave in the lead up to 488 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: that interview talking about fifty six touchdown passes and damn right, 489 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: and you know this. You know Tom Sr. Knows what 490 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: Tom Junior's feeling. And I think those those feelings are 491 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: real right underneath the surface. All right, So what's your 492 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: guests week one? So September, whatever day? Uh, give me 493 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: a percentage chance you think Brady is under center week one? 494 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: Starting for a t whether it's Vegas, uh, Tampa, whoever, 495 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not good. Maybe maybe, but probably Listen, 496 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: that is not bad. I mean, I just by the way, 497 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: Tampa is in dire straits, right, gron coming back without Brady, 498 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: we know that, Uh, we don't know about four net um. 499 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: Your cap situation is not great, the defense was not great. Um, 500 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: godwin coming off the a c L like this, this 501 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: team goes right back to the you know, five six, 502 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: seven wins, right Yeah. I mean I think that that 503 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: was part of the calculation for Brady. I mean, I 504 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: I was surprisingly retired because he said I'll retire when 505 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: I sucked. He was arguably the m v P of 506 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: this UH this year. But I think that he just 507 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: realized it's one thing to move on from New England, 508 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: where it was tough towards the end, get rejuvenated for 509 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: one year. That last year took a lot out of 510 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: him and the team, and I think he this year 511 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: was tough. There was a lot of stuff going on 512 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: behind the scenes and the prospect of moving to another 513 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: team UH and doing it all over again. I think 514 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: he was just he was too tired to do that 515 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: is behind the scenes, more than Antonio Brown or No. 516 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think him and arians got along splendidly, 517 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of you know, fighting about 518 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: the offense. Not actual fighting, but you know, some disagreements 519 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: about how to handle things. And you know, maybe the 520 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: A B decision, UH, if it was handled a different way. 521 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: Maybe Brady thinks that Abe would have been fine if 522 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: he would have left it just up to Brady. And 523 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: you know, they really needed him at the end of 524 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: the season and didn't have him. I'll close out with 525 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 1: the Jets question because you know about the Jets. So 526 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: you saw Zach Wilson uh this season, and you know, 527 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: we know rookies can go up and down Burrows okay 528 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: as a rookie. Now he's in the Super Bowl. I'm 529 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: not saying Zach Wilson will do that, just I'm curious. 530 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: First impressions on Zach Wilson of the Jets. I like 531 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: Zach a lot. I mean, I think he I think 532 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: he improved over the course of the season. There were 533 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: just wasn't much around him. And you've gotta you've got 534 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: to give these young quarterbacks, UM a really good offensive line, 535 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 1: and you've got to protect him. And I think they 536 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: had issues with that. UM. You know that. I just 537 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: saw today that Salo said that left tackles a competition 538 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: between Beckton and George Fant. I mean, are you freaking 539 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: kidding me? I mean, I know has been hurt all 540 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: the time. When he plays, he's awesome, but they don't 541 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: like him. He's out of shape continually, he doesn't want 542 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: to work. He got paid a lot, I mean behind 543 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: the scenes, it doesn't sound good. Man, like you got 544 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: a new coaching staff, right, You're you're becked in your 545 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: a first round pick. You want to impress him. He 546 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: shows up like slovenly and not really working hard, and 547 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: they're like, what the what is this guy? You know, 548 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean, nothing's given to you in the league, and 549 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: you know Salo is one of these raw, raw guys 550 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: and fat played well. I know it's the most sample size. 551 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: So it's typical Jets. But at least the Dolphins are 552 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: a bigger dubster fire right now, right, Jets clearly not 553 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: in the basement of the Yes, good for the Jets, 554 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: congrat Uh. Well, do you know Boston supports journal You're 555 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: doing a lot of radio now too, Huh, just a 556 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: big deal in Boston. Boston doing a bunch of radio 557 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: and TV and stuff like that. So it's all good. 558 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: Congrats on your success man. We'll talk soon. Sounds good.