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Speaker 1: Let's just dive right in. Congrats on having a baby.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I just had my son, Kyrie, the first in November,

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Speaker 1: the first of November.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be some pressure on your son to be

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Speaker 1: a Hooper. If Shador Sanders has a good game, great

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Speaker 1: game Sunday and potentially the rest of the year. If

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Speaker 1: he starts, can he be the next quarterback that is

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Speaker 1: traded this offseason? Depending on the quarterback class this upcoming draft, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of different variables here. First,

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Speaker 1: is there and we'll find out like after the game

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Speaker 1: and early next week, is there pressure on him to

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Speaker 1: play well? So if Dylan Gabriel passes concussion protocol on

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Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday, is he just inserted back in the

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Speaker 1: starting lineup. That's what we don't know yet. If Chador

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Speaker 1: plays well, regardless of what happens to Gabriel, he will

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Speaker 1: continue to play. And to me, if he plays, how's

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Speaker 1: let's say he starts what's record two and eight or something.

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Speaker 1: Let's say he starts seven eight games, right, and he

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Speaker 1: plays well in four or five of them. I think

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Speaker 1: that would bring into play depending on the quarterback class,

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Speaker 1: especially if there's no one to draft high that he

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Speaker 1: would be their quarterback next year and they would just

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Speaker 1: use their draft capital to help build the team and

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Speaker 1: Shador would get an opportunity to start this offseason. I

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Speaker 1: think the owner has shown that, you know, he likes

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Speaker 1: the headlines. He's like a I don't know, Midwest version

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Speaker 1: of Jerry Jones, who loses a lot more than Jerry.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jerry's way better his job than Jimmy Haslam.

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Speaker 1: But I do think if Shadoor plays well, assuming that

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Speaker 1: he continues to start, that he would get an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to be the quarterback next year. Maybe they would sign

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Speaker 1: some version of Flacco veteran Kenny Pickett type guy. And

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Speaker 1: obviously they still have Gabriel on the roster. Maybe they

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Speaker 1: have an offseason competition. I mean, Dylan Gambriel's not very good.

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Speaker 1: But who we're gonna find out about your door?

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Speaker 2: What out middle coff?

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, do you think the Bills would

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Speaker 1: have been better off missing the playoffs instead of winning

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Speaker 1: five straight to get the number two seed. This would

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Speaker 1: have meant the McDermott would have gotten fired, and I

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Speaker 1: believe his replacement would have been Jim Harbaugh. Would the

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Speaker 1: Bills be in a better position today if they had

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Speaker 1: got rid of McDermott in twenty three. I like Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 1: I'm not rooting for him to get fired, but to

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Speaker 1: be objective, I'd have to admit that Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: Is a much better coach.

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Speaker 1: If you could choose, who would you want as your

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh. And the one thing, which is kind of

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Speaker 1: ironic because Sean McDermott is like a defensive tough guy,

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Speaker 1: and part of it might be the GM two that

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Speaker 1: there's a softness to the organization. Now I'm recording this podcast.

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Speaker 1: I know it's coming out on Saturday before the Thursday

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Speaker 1: the Chargers have a bunch of injuries. There is a

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Speaker 1: toughness element to his teams, and I just think you

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Speaker 2: I think the sky would be the limit. Now yeah,

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Speaker 1: That you never want to miss the playoffs, but in

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Speaker 1: of question, assuming the Broncos and Eagles both get the

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Speaker 1: addition to covering a hypothetical spread for said matchup, Chiefs

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Speaker 1: That would be a shitty spot for the Colts. Now

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Speaker 1: we'll see that matchup in Arrowhead. Obviously, it would be

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Speaker 1: and the Cole don't love that. Bills at the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Ravens Lamar's been banged up this year.

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Speaker 1: he was saying bon Nicks wasn't any good. Listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna defend him this way, like that's the biggest game

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Speaker 1: of Boenix's career. It just was, and he outplayed Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: the course of the last two months he had been

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Speaker 1: this is we saw him Thursday night. I get it

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Speaker 1: short week, but at home against the Raiders, that's one

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Speaker 1: other thing is like, this is not an old player

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Speaker 1: a bad game, like he's proven he's a pretty good player.

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Speaker 1: Now you don't want him outside. But I expect Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff to bounce back this week. Bo Nix, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what I'm getting weak to week. So basically the

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Speaker 1: question is curious your take on the notoriety they've been

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Speaker 1: getting in the reality come playoff time, because the defense awesome.

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Speaker 2: And you can put some clamps.

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Speaker 1: I think we could see a lopsided game for.

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Speaker 1: I just think bo Nicks is one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: Bowl contender. When you have an elite defense. It's why

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Speaker 1: my take on the Ole miss rebels. It's like, well,

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin could win a championship this year. When's the

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Speaker 1: last time a team with a terrible defense won a

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Speaker 1: So I think a lot of people are like, I

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Speaker 2: I don't know either.

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Speaker 1: Right, It's like, well, I can't quit the Packers because

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Speaker 1: when you have a fantastic defense. That's why the Eagles

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Speaker 2: Who cares.

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Speaker 1: If you're allowing ten thirteen points a game, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: win a lot of games. You just are. So I

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Speaker 1: think defense really really matters. I have no clue on

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Speaker 1: a weekly basis, though, what to make a bonex. As

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Speaker 1: a former scout, can you help me understand the reasoning

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Speaker 1: He's way indersized, mediocre physical traits. When the Browns were evaluating,

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Speaker 1: did they think he could be an elite quarterback even

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Speaker 1: if they surround him with weapons and an awesome offensive coach,

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Speaker 1: his ceiling would be someone like Tua, which you're never

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Speaker 1: winning big with anyway. I understand taking a flyer on

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Speaker 1: brock Purty, but he was at the very end of

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Speaker 1: the draft, not the top of the third round. My

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Speaker 1: question is do you think the Browns drafted him thinking

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Speaker 1: he could eventually be a top five quarterback.

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Speaker 2: When you draft a guy in the third round.

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Speaker 1: You don't think he's gonna be a top five quarterback.

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Speaker 1: If you think you guys gonna be top five quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you draft him in the first round. If they thought

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Speaker 1: the third round, like, you just need a quarterback. So

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Speaker 1: I I don't know what they personally think of as ceiling.

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Speaker 1: There's no way they could think of ceiling is that

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Speaker 1: can make an average quarterback, or an average quarterback can

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Speaker 1: you know, you kind of it's Deshaun Watson didn't have

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Speaker 1: the win ideally. You know, none of those guys are Marino.

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Speaker 1: Flacco's got a huge arm, but you can't have a

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Speaker 2: Like Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 1: And I feel bad because everyone's shitting on him. But

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Speaker 1: the draft is a marketplace, right so when you draft

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Speaker 1: him in the third round, you're placing a value on

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Speaker 1: that guy. I'd be like, I'm making an offer for

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Speaker 1: It's like we value that house. We're both in different worlds,

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Speaker 1: right And to me, when they took him in the

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Speaker 1: like what is going on. It's why I theorized that

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Speaker 1: Door Sanders, who was plummeting in the draft, which is

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Speaker 1: ironic because they ended up drafting him a couple rounds later.

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Speaker 1: So I've been saying over and over that the Rams,

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Speaker 1: or excuse me, the Browns, it's a clown show. And

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Speaker 1: I do think they get a pretty big pass.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Andrew Barry would tell me my owner is nuts.

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Speaker 1: He forces me to do all this stuff and there'll

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Speaker 1: probably be some validity to it, but he always comes

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Speaker 1: out and says like, that was my choice, that was

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Speaker 1: my choice. If he does get fired, I hope he

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Speaker 1: doesn't tell all because I would like to know the

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Speaker 1: truth if the truth is not what we know. But

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Speaker 1: right now they're an embarrassment with an all time great

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Speaker 1: pass rusher and a promising looking running back. My question is,

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Speaker 1: You're a finance guy, well kind of trade sucks, Well,

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: If you want to say, hey, why didn't you guys

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Speaker 1: I'd argue, like, why don't you find the best running

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Speaker 1: Why are the Chargers so inconsistent? They crushed the Steelers

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Speaker 1: I really like Liam Cohen. If if the NFL was

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Speaker 2: He's been impressive. So I'm impressed with Liam Cohen.

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Speaker 1: But like the Chargers are gonna have some games with

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Speaker 1: Glazers like you. I love Baker and hate Todd. You

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Speaker 1: My question is, do you think Baker has what it

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Speaker 1: Fans blame Todd for most issues, but Baker's turnovers need

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Speaker 2: It's not Todd's fault.

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Speaker 1: They've had a bunch of injuries. I think Todd solid.

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Speaker 1: I think the hard part is is you know that

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Speaker 1: That one could be a regret. It's like, God, I

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Speaker 1: I don't put the turnovers on Todd for Baker, and

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Speaker 1: You guys are kind of in that weird predicament. It's

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Speaker 1: Kind of a weird spot. I'm twenty five years old.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what to tell you. There

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Speaker 1: But there does come to a point where it's like this,

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Speaker 1: But you're not gonna win that. When you're losing in

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Speaker 2: It's it could get.

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Speaker 1: Really ugly, it really could. Full disclosure, huge Broncos fan,

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Speaker 1: You're clearly biased and agree you have to get him

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Speaker 2: For some playoff games.

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Speaker 1: Keep up the great work, Caress, I'm getting married side out.

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Speaker 1: What were your favorite golf courses to play when you

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Speaker 1: work in Philly. He's got a long way to go

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Speaker 2: Brakes on that.

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Speaker 1: I do think it's very fair to be really excited

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Speaker 1: Twenty nine million people watched.

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Speaker 2: That's cool.

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Speaker 1: That was a cool moment for you as a fan.

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Speaker 1: Let's just see him play back to back good games.

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Speaker 1: Golf courses. I played some public courses in Westchester. One

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Speaker 1: thing about Philly, the outskirts, some beautiful hills, great terrain,

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Speaker 1: great topography. I would say the best course I went

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Speaker 1: to was Ironomic. I didn't play it, but Tiger used

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Speaker 1: to host an event in like ten and eleven. My

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Speaker 1: brother flew out and we just went. We followed like

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Speaker 1: justin Leonard nick Watney's from where I live, so it

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Speaker 1: kind of followed him.

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Speaker 2: Badass course, which I.

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Speaker 1: Think is hosting the PGA Championship or they're hosting a

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Speaker 1: major in the next couple of years. But that was

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Speaker 1: probably the best course that I was around. We used

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Speaker 1: to have we used to play golf of this course

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Speaker 1: in New Jersey that used to let we had some.

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Speaker 2: Deal with the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember the name, but I remember playing

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Speaker 1: some nice courses in Westchester. Love the Show never missed

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Speaker 1: an episode. Since you've been watching sports for a few

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Speaker 1: decades now. I was wondering, what are your top five

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Speaker 1: or ten sports moments of all time? Okay, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: end on this. I would say being there live the

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Speaker 1: best things I've ever seen live. I was at Game

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Speaker 1: seven of the NBA Finals in twenty sixteen. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to your dev's son, Kyrie. That was a pretty surreal

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Speaker 1: moment to watch the block for Lebron had on Andrea Gudala.

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Speaker 1: I'll just it's a regret of mine. I drank a

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Speaker 1: little too much, but I do vividly remember the game

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Speaker 1: ending and just looking at the Cavs sideline and the eruption.

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is pretty historic moment. Obviously, the

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Speaker 1: Warriors had won seventy three games, they had just come

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Speaker 1: back against the Thunder in seven games in the Western

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Speaker 1: Conference Finals, which obviously that loss led to Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 1: but you just knew that something was big. I remember

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Speaker 1: seeing the Dominican Sue at the game, Jared Goff at

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Speaker 1: the game, a lot of celebrities at the game. The

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Speaker 1: other live moment I was at Monday Night Football, the

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Speaker 1: last game at Candlestick. The San Franco forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: were playing the Atlanta Falcons and Navarro Bowman picked off

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Speaker 1: a ball I think it was Roddy White, bounced off

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Speaker 1: Roddy White, Matt Ryan kind of threw it behind him

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Speaker 1: and navaral Bowman took it to the house and leaped

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Speaker 1: into the end zone and it's it like clinched a

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Speaker 1: playoff berth for the forty nine ers. I remember looking up.

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Speaker 1: It's the loudest stadium I've ever seen the place. It

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Speaker 1: was like an earthquake. Place was shaking. And then they

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Speaker 1: had like an after party. All the famous forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers were there, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Eddie Bartelow,

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Speaker 1: Boys the Man. It was like a football celebration. But

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Speaker 1: that moment navaral Bowman pick it off. I remember watching

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh because I was on the field, because you

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Speaker 1: used to be able to go on the field with

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Speaker 1: five minutes left in the game, standing next to Chris Berman.

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Speaker 1: Just a moment I'll never forget. And then I did

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Speaker 1: like local TV after.

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Speaker 2: It was just really cool.

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Speaker 1: I do remember I used to host a college radio

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Speaker 1: show when I first got into radio on Saturdays, so

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Speaker 1: I would be in the office on Saturdays in downtown

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Speaker 1: San Francisco and I remember watching the kick six Alabama Auburn.

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Speaker 1: I do think that's one of the crazier moments in

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Speaker 1: my life. Obviously it's Saban Dynasty, but just watching I

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Speaker 1: think Chris Davis, who ended up being an undrafted free

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Speaker 1: agent for the forty nine ers, I just.

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Speaker 2: Remember my jaw hitting the floor. I couldn't even believe

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Speaker 2: it was happening.

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Speaker 1: And clearly, looking back, anytime you tried something like that,

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Speaker 1: you're such a disadvantage if you know, the dB returns

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Speaker 1: it because how many guys on your unit one it's

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Speaker 1: long snapper, holder, kicker, maybe a couple tight ends, but

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Speaker 1: it's just offensive tackles, guards and centers, so you don't

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Speaker 1: have the ability to make an open field tackle. It's

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Speaker 1: not like there are linebackers and safeties on the field

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Speaker 1: for you. I just that was That's one moment that's

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Speaker 1: just like entrenched into my brain. Yeah, I mean there's been.

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Speaker 1: I mean I've been lucky. I've lived through a lot.

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Speaker 1: I've I've watched every major sporting event the last I

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Speaker 1: don't know thirty years. I mean Tiger Woods is you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd say Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan are my favorite athletes.

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Speaker 2: I was so young.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're early nineties, I'm eight nine, ten years old,

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Speaker 1: and then Michael ninety six through ninety eight. I'm twelve, thirteen, fourteen. See,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's really cool, but you don't quite have

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Speaker 1: the sports expertise. I do think watching Tiger I remember

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Speaker 1: in college in two thousand and eight when he won

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Speaker 1: the US Open against Rocko on a torn acl and

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Speaker 1: broken leg. It's and they used to play eighteen holes

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Speaker 1: on Monday.

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Speaker 2: I don't even think they'd do that anymore.

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Speaker 1: But it was just him hitting that putt in San

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Speaker 1: Diego at Tory Pines. And then twenty nineteen when he

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Speaker 1: won the Masters, I had so much more like perspective

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Speaker 1: as a sports fan, understanding of like sports history, you know,

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Speaker 1: like when Tom Brady, as his career went, you could

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Speaker 1: really you kind of understood like every the legacy and

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Speaker 1: what was on the line. In twenty nineteen, Tiger's he

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Speaker 1: gonna win the Masters, Like everyone who had been watching

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Speaker 1: this guy since the nineties just knew, like this is

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Speaker 1: pretty crazy. And then when he wins it, that walk

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Speaker 1: up the Hill with Charlie. That's probably my personal favorite

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Speaker 1: of my adult life. Is Tiger twenty nineteen winning the Masters,

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Speaker 1: and I do think we were robbed a little bit

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Speaker 1: his car accident in twenty twenty when he flips the

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Speaker 1: Genesis and fucks up his leg and kind of ends

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Speaker 1: his career. He was playing really good in eighteen and nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Now was he going to go on the same level

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Speaker 1: of run And he didn't know, But I do think

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Speaker 1: he would have had a couple more majors and he

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Speaker 1: definitely would have won a lot of tournaments. He would

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Speaker 1: have been one of the better American players because technology,

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Speaker 1: he could hit fairways. Mentally he was so much more superior.

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Speaker 1: Every game was a home game for him. I am

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Speaker 1: glad we got eighteen and nineteen. He won the Tour

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Speaker 1: Championship in eighteen, he almost won the British Open in eighteen.

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Speaker 1: He almost won the PGA Championship against Koepka in eighteen.

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Speaker 1: But winning that Masters against just a crew of like

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Speaker 1: DJ Kopka, Tony Fenow, Maula NOWERI hits in the water

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Speaker 1: on fifteen, that was just badass that that was And

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Speaker 1: just as a huge fan, it was cool, like his

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Speaker 1: Charlie kind of got to take it in. But then

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Speaker 1: we were just kind of robbed, like his career basically

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Speaker 1: ends whatever eight months later in the ditch in Los Angeles, So.

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Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that that would probably be my personal favorite.

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Speaker 2: Tiger Woods twenty nineteen, The volume