1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of iHeartRadio and Grimm 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: and Mild from Aaron Manky. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: Just before midnight on May nineteenth, two thousand and seven, 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: police were called to the Alaskan Hotel to respond to 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: a disturbance in Room three fifteen. The room's only guest, 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: a sailor from the USS Bunker Hill, was heard screaming 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: through the door. Help stop, he shouted, get me out 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: of here. He appeared to be trapped in the room. 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: Responding officers said they heard more than one person inside. Later, 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: a guest in the room directly underneath gave her account 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: of the events. I remember hearing yelling, but kind of 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: just assumed that it was coming from the bar downstairs, 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: she said. We hear glass chatter from above, and within moments, 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: our window within our hotel room just shatters. Before anyone 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: could get inside, the sailor jumped out the third floor window. 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: When the police broke down the door, or Officer Chris 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: Guildford was met with a horrible scene. The walls were 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: covered in blood. Guilford said, there was it looked like 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: something very bad had happened in there, and I didn't 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: know what it was, but it didn't look normal. The 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: sailor survived, but hotel owner Betty Adams said that when 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: she entered the room, she found something she never expected 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 2: to see. On the wall, the sailor had written one 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: word help. He wrote it in his own blood. I'm 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: Amy Bruney and this is haunted road. Room three point 26 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: fifteen is in the only haunted space and the one 27 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: hundred ten year old Alaskan Hotel in Juno, Alaska. In fact, 28 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: according to people who've stayed there and even the people 29 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: who own it, just about every corner of the historic 30 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: hotel has some kind of unexplained activity. But when it opened, 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: the Alaskan Hotel was all glitz and glamor, a shining 32 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: beacon in one of the territory's richest gold rushed tones. Today, 33 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: Juno is home to just about thirty thousand people. The 34 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 2: capital of Alaska sits on land originally belonging to the 35 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: Negative Klinget tribe. In eighteen eighty, a discovery of gold 36 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: set off a gold rush and led to the founding 37 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: of the city later that year. Joe Juno was one 38 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: of the original discoverers of that gold, but the city 39 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 2: wasn't named for him right away. First it was Harrisburg, 40 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: then it was Rockwell. Miners voted to name the city 41 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: Juno in eighteen eighty one, allegedly after Joe Juno bribed 42 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: his voters with liquor. Juno is located on the Alaskan mainland, 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: but is surrounded by so much extreme terrain that it's 44 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: only reachable by boat or plain. Those first prospectors set 45 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: up camps and lived in boarding houses, but no real 46 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: hotel existed until the Alaskan opened its doors in nineteen thirteen. 47 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: It was just a year after Elahesca became an official 48 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: United States territory. The Alaskan was built by entrepreneur Jules 49 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: Carrow and brothers James and John McCloskey, miners who had 50 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: struck it rich in the Canadian Cariboo just over the 51 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: border in British Columbia. The hotel opened with a grand 52 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 2: gala on September sixteenth, nineteen thirteen. According to Jeff Balanger's 53 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: World's Most Haunted Places, the management sent out invitations for 54 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: the gala event that said at six pm, the management 55 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: will formally unlock the doors and the keys will then 56 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: be attached to a toy balloon which will carry them 57 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: out of sight. From the moment the doors swing open, 58 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: never to close. The hotel will be for the accommodation 59 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: of guests. At the time, the Alaska Daily Empire described 60 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: it as one of the most important business ventures of 61 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: this kind in the North. According to the newspaper, the 62 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: gala attracted a very large attendance of people anxious to 63 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: inspect the place that had been talked about so much 64 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: and to take part in the festivities that were to follow. 65 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: The hotel arranged free fairies to bring people in from 66 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: nearby islands for the event as well. According to one 67 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: contemporary newspaper, everyone seemed to be having a good time, 68 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: and the hotel's register had several pages filled with the 69 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: names of well known people of both sides of the 70 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: Gastineau Channel. An account in the National Registry of Historic 71 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: Places Inventories said that a pioneer resident than a teenager, 72 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: Trevor Davis, recalls his observation of the exciting grand opening. 73 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: The McCloskey brothers milling among a well dressed crowd, shaking 74 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: magnums of champagne, the corks aimed at the newly installed 75 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: chandeliers and the gleaming ceiling. 76 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: Of the lobby. 77 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: Three stories tall. The Alaskan Hotel made a grand impression 78 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: with Mount Juno rising up behind the structure. Inside, the 79 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: main floor was primarily restaurants, separate dining areas for men 80 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 2: and women, and the bar. The top two floors still 81 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: have the original forty six guest rooms, some of which 82 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: have private baths and some of which have shared bathrooms. 83 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: The Alaska Daily. 84 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: Empire reported that the finish of the entire lower floor 85 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: is in mahogany, matching the elegant mahogany fixtures and furniture. 86 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: The furniture is all leather upholstered. The entire floor is 87 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: well illuminated. Brass chandeliers and tasteful design and art fixtures 88 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: for the electric lights are everywhere. In evidence from the 89 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: nearby steamship docks, it was easy to see what the 90 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: newspaper described as a large electric sign blazing forth, which 91 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: could be seen far down the gasteno channel. Inside the hotel, 92 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: through the doors that never closed, things took a dark 93 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: run rather quickly. According to the Alaskan Hotel, the high 94 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: fashion and glitz was a paltry concealment for the legal 95 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: prostitution and sale of illicit substances that went on there 96 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: throughout its history. At the time, men's far outnumbered women 97 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: in the territory, and sex work was legal in Alaska 98 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: until the nineteen fifties, just before it became a state. 99 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: Rumors also swirled. 100 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: That money laundering was happening in the hotel. In nineteen eighteen, 101 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 2: five years after the Alaska opened, the territory passed its 102 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: own ban on alcohol. According to the hotel's history, the 103 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: McCloskey brothers decided to turn the bar into a cafe 104 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: for sodas during that period, like most speakeasies of its time, 105 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: The hotel was renamed the Northlander in nineteen sixty and 106 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 2: the bar previously on the first floor was moved to 107 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: the basement. In a guide to the Notorious Bars of Alaska, 108 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: Doug van de Graft wrote, the Northlander Bar was known 109 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: by many locals as the snake pit, where all manner 110 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: of humanity, such as prostitutes, drug dealers, swindlers, musicians, and 111 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 2: dirty politicians came to drink and rub elbow. In nineteen 112 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 2: seventy seven, after a police raid, the bar was shut 113 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: down and its liquor license revoked shortly after the building 114 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: was condemned. That same year, current owners Betty and Mike Adams, 115 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: bought the hotel with the intention to restore it to 116 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: its original name and its original look. In Thousand Ridge Haunts, 117 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: Missy Wright wrote that elements of the hotel are so 118 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: well preserved. Longtime Juno residents comment on how little the 119 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: place has changed. The following year, in nineteen seventy eight, 120 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: the Alaskan Hotel was included on the National Register of 121 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: Historic Places. In nineteen eighty one, Betty and Mike reopened 122 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: the hotel for business and quickly restored the institution to 123 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: its former glory, attracting celebrities like John Wayne, Ken Kessei 124 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: Ted Danson, and the Red Hot Chili Peppers as guests. 125 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: According to its history, the hotel's style, as noted by 126 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: its own or Nate string course, Victorian bay windows in 127 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: plush interior, is decidedly done in the late Victorian Queen 128 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: Anne's style. In Alaska Voters Travel Guide today, the flocked wallpaper, 129 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: red floral carpets, and tiffany windows are reminiscent of the 130 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: hotel's original Gold Rush era opulence. While it was the Northlander, 131 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: the owners installed a bar and cabaret in the basement, 132 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: and later hot tubs, which don't appear to currently be 133 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: in use. In nineteen ninety eight, Charles Kevin Wynn died 134 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: at the hotel, having been found floating face down in 135 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: a basement hot tub. In twenty seventeen, Clarence Stanley Milton 136 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 2: third was found dead in his room. People report seeing 137 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: at least one of those men still at the hotel today. 138 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: Charlie is now believed to be a poltergeist who haunts 139 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: the basement who is especially focused on pretty women. According 140 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: to Joshua Adams, son of owners Betty and Mike Adams, 141 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 2: who works at the hotel, he's definitely not the only 142 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: presence at the Alaskan hotel, though visitors and staff both 143 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: report often encountering cold spots throughout the building. According to 144 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: Tom Ognan's book Haunted Hotels, guests of reported feeling an 145 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: invisible spirit presumed to be female, stroke their faces or 146 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: sit beside them on the bed. In general, rooms on 147 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: the south side of the hotel seem to have the 148 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: most activity, though it's not known why. James Devereaux in 149 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: Spirits of Southeast Alaska reports that Reflections of ghostly figures 150 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: in historical garb have been reported in the hotel's mirrors, 151 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: especially in the bar area. Others have spotted orbs floating 152 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: in the bar and on the stage. 153 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: According to the. 154 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: Haunted Places, beer mugs have also been reported moving on 155 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: their own, as if they were pushed by someone. One 156 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: of the more curious phenomena people report experiencing at the 157 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: Alaskan is time slips. Elva bon Traeger claims to have 158 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: experienced this in the late nineteen aenies while visiting the 159 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: first floor bar. According to Varndel's book Haunted Inside Passage, 160 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 2: she was on her way to use the restroom when 161 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: she was struck by a painting of two women. One 162 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: was a tall, scantily clad, sour faced blonde, the other 163 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 2: was an attractive, dark haired woman with a small scar 164 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: on her cheek, sitting behind a small green table. Elva 165 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 2: assumed the two were prostitutes. She went home and replicated 166 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: the painting of the two women. When Elva returned to 167 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: the hotel a few weeks later, the painting was gone 168 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: and the hallway was painted a different color. She also 169 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 2: saw changes in the restroom, with a modern toilet replacing 170 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: the pole chain model she had seen previously. When she 171 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: asked the bartender about the changes, he had no idea 172 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: what she was talking about and had no memory of 173 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: such a painting ever hanging in that hallway. When she 174 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: described the painting to the acquaintance she was at the 175 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 2: bar with, the other woman said she'd been told by 176 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: staff that the tall, blonde woman was a ghostly presence 177 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: in the hotel's hallways. The most popular ghost story about 178 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: the Alaskan Hotel concerns a woman named Alice. According to legend, 179 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: Alice came to Juno with a man, possibly her fiance 180 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: or husband, and they took Room two nineteen at the 181 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: Alaskan sometime in the nineteen thirties. Alice's man left for 182 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: several weeks to look for mining work in the Yukon, 183 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 2: or in some versions, he was a fisherman or a 184 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: whaler who went out to sea. Eventually, Alice ran out 185 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: of money and was unable to continue paying for the room. 186 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: Out of options, she decided to raise the money through 187 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: sex work, a common occupation in the hotel at the time. 188 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: Most tellings of the story say that when he returned, 189 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: the heartbroken man murdered Alice in the hotel, either shooting 190 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: her or bludgeoning her with a hatchet. In some versions 191 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: of the story, he then hung himself in the same room. 192 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,359 Speaker 2: In others, he simply disappeared. According to one hotel employee 193 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: interviewed by Jeff Balanger for World's Most Haunted Places, guests 194 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: continually asked to be moved out of room two nineteen. 195 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: The man, Jake Good, said, whenever I walk into Room 196 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: two one nine, I get goosebumps. It's cold in there 197 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: all of the time. For some reason, I personally think 198 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: there are probably a couple of ghosts around here. I 199 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: think the one in two nineteen is the only one 200 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: that is frustrated or unhappy or tormented. 201 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 202 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: Some staff members say they've seen Alice sitting on the 203 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: bed in Room two eighteen and room two nineteen. Others 204 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: complain of feeling watched in that part of the hotel. 205 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: According to Spirits of Southeast Alaska, a former housekeeper tells 206 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: of cleaning the rooms, only to return to find the 207 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: towels and furniture rearranged and scattered about, when there's no 208 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: possibility that anyone could have entered to do so Room 209 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: three fifteen of the Alaskan Hotel is also said to 210 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: be haunted. That room, decorated with antiques and floral linen, 211 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: looks especially close to how it would have appeared when 212 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: the hotel first opened. According to legend, a fisherman's girlfriend 213 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: was one staying in room three fifteen as haunted. 214 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: Inside. 215 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: Passage tells it, the man, suspicious his girlfriend might be 216 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: cheating on him, desperately wanted to come into port. It 217 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: was autumn, a time storms frequently buffet juno and turn 218 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: the ocean deadly. Rather than staying anchored in a protected cove, 219 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 2: the fisherman made a run for towne and was lost 220 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: to the stormy sea. It's said that during the first 221 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: big storm each year, the fisherman's footsteps can be heard 222 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: on the stairs. Room three fifteen is also the room 223 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: where that sailor had an experience so intense that it 224 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: caused him to jump out the window to escape. When 225 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: asked about the room, according to Alaska Public Media owner 226 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: Betty Adams said, I just it's creepy. 227 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 4: You know. 228 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: I've never seen anything, but I feel things. The Alaskan 229 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: Hotel is a place I have yet to visit. Though 230 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: I will be there in just a few months, so 231 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: I found someone who has been there and investigated it 232 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: over a period of several days. Up next, I am 233 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: thrilled to be joined by Katrina Widman as we revisit 234 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: her experiences and thoughts on this mysterious location that's coming 235 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: up after the break, I am joined by a very 236 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: special guest, someone who I don't see enough. I will 237 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: be honest, miss Katrino Wideman. So welcome Katrina. Hey, thank you, 238 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: thanks for having me. Of course, you know, it's funny 239 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: because a lot of the places that I cover. 240 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: On Haunted Road, I've actually been there and. 241 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: Investigated, and the Alaskan Hotel is kind of literally one 242 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: of the few that I have not It's in one 243 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: of four states I have not visited, and I'm actually 244 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: going there in June with Strange Escape. So we have 245 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: a cruise going there. We're they're all day and like 246 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: we get to investigate till like eleven at night. So 247 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: really interested to hear what you have to say about it. 248 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: So thank you so much. 249 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, no problem. 250 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: So what strikes me about the Alaskan Hotel just kind 251 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: of off the bat, It just kind of has a 252 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: dark and ominous feel to it, and there's not a 253 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: lot of I mean, I think hauntings in general can 254 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: kind of come off that way to people who aren't 255 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: familiar to them or familiar with them. But for some reason, 256 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: the Alaskan I've never been there, I just don't get 257 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: the greatest vibe from it, if that makes sense. Did 258 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: you get that feeling when you went there? 259 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely it's an odd place. 260 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 5: Do you know the town itself is it's got a 261 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 5: very cool vibe. We went right as their season ended, 262 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 5: so it was pretty empty by the time we had 263 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 5: gotten there for filming. Surprisingly warm. I wasn't prepared for that. 264 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 5: I think, you know, you think Alaska, you think it's cold, 265 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 5: and it wasn't. It was actually very beautiful and warm 266 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 5: up there. But the overall vibe of the space is 267 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 5: definitely one that's uneasy. I don't know that I would 268 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 5: say it's bad, but there's definitely a level of, you know, 269 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 5: I don't fully feel comfortable in this space. 270 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: Right, And that's kind of what I mean, Like just 271 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: just I think I rewatched a portion of the episode there, 272 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: So basically, you and Jack Jack Osborne, you filmed there 273 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: and investigated there for the very first episode of Portals 274 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: to Hell, so clearly a really interesting place to kick 275 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: off the entire series with. So was that intentional or 276 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: did you guys kind. 277 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: Of pick the order after the fact. 278 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 5: I'm not really sure why they decided to choose Alaska 279 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 5: for the first one, because Jack and I had met 280 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 5: beforehand to talk about Portals to Hell and you know, 281 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 5: if we got along and if we wanted to move 282 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 5: forward doing it together and everything, and then they were like, oh, 283 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 5: we're going to do Alaska. And it took me like 284 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 5: twenty two hours to get there. You know, I live 285 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 5: on the East coast. It was a little easier for 286 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 5: Jack being on the West coast. But it was definitely 287 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 5: a gosh, I don't even know what's the word for it, 288 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 5: like a slap in the face to do that one 289 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 5: the as the very first one. And I don't mean 290 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 5: that as like a negative thing, but it was just 291 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 5: it was a really overwhelming location. So to have that 292 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 5: be like the first time you're working with a brand 293 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 5: new crew, a new teammate, it was like, wow, okay, 294 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 5: we're going for it, like you know, like this is 295 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 5: pal in your face kind of location. 296 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 4: But I don't. 297 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 5: As far as like the production side, I don't know 298 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 5: why they chok, oh, you know what, I do know why. 299 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 5: I think it had to do with weather, because we 300 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 5: were going to be filming over we see, we started 301 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 5: in October, so October, November, December, and I think like 302 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 5: the first week or two of January, and so you know, 303 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 5: Alaska weather wise wouldn't have been really great to if 304 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 5: we waited any longer. So I think it was more 305 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 5: a logistical thing of let's just do it to to 306 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 5: you know, capitalize on some of that weather that they 307 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 5: have right now. 308 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean from. 309 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: A production standpoint, just you know, being a producer, it 310 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: is like it is kind of epic. You're like, we 311 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: are going all the way to Alaska for our very 312 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: first case and it really did work like it did, 313 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: And I mean I remembered it ever since because I 314 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: had not heard of the Alaskan Hotel before, and so 315 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: a lot of the claims there were fairly recent, and 316 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: they also kind of seemed to really deeply affect people, 317 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: like what can you remember just kind of struck you 318 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: as something that they told you that just seemed kind 319 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: of different from any other hauntings you'd been to before. 320 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 5: Well, I think there's definitely layers going on there. There 321 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 5: have been reports going back decades too, which is interesting. 322 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 5: One of the reports, and I can't remember if they 323 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 5: kept it in the episode or not. And you know, yeah, 324 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 5: as an investigator, you're shifting through rumors and hearsay, and 325 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 5: it's it's always hard to tell, Okay, this person's account, 326 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 5: is this accurate or not? Did they make it up? 327 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 5: Is it how long has this been passed down? You know, 328 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 5: kind of the whisper down the lane type of thing. 329 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 5: But one of the stories we had heard was that 330 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 5: a woman I think she went into the bathroom, walked out, 331 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 5: and when she walked out, she was in a different 332 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 5: time period, you know, And that always struck me as 333 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 5: interesting because you only hear about those type of experiences, 334 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 5: I mean seldomly you hear of them. The other one 335 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 5: I can think of that's really well known as Gettysburg, 336 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 5: and I'm sure a lot of people, if they're into hauntings, 337 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,239 Speaker 5: they've heard of that story where the two admin they 338 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 5: got into the elevator at the at Gettysburg College. The 339 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 5: elevator took them to the basement, and when the basement 340 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 5: doors opened up. They were watching an entire Civil War 341 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 5: hospital scene, you know. So you hear of these experiences, 342 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 5: but they're not altogether common. 343 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: So that one really. 344 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 5: Struck me, you know, assuming it's true and accurate. I 345 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 5: think that happened in the eighties, I want to say, 346 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 5: maybe the early nineties. And I think the other part 347 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 5: of it was, you know, I mean, you're talking about 348 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 5: a town where it was easy to cover things up, 349 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 5: you know, and if there as a lot of these places, 350 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 5: these hotels that were kind of there as a midpoint 351 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 5: stopover for workers, historically, it's not uncommon to find really 352 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 5: bad s where he's coming out of those places, you know, 353 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 5: So I think it was easy for people to cover 354 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 5: things up there. That's at least what we had been told. 355 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 5: And so a lot of the tragedies you're not going 356 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 5: to find documented, so a lot of them are passed 357 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 5: on orally, and you know, I'm sure there's some exaggerations 358 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 5: on some of those stories, but we definitely did hear 359 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 5: of murders, we heard about rapes, we heard about suicides. 360 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 5: And then there's the element of Josh, who highly intelligent person, 361 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 5: but I think there were some you know, the way 362 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 5: he was describing things happening in the hotel. It seemed 363 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 5: like there was definitely a level that was more malevolent, right. 364 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 2: I was kind of fascinated by him. So if you've 365 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: seen the episode of Portals. 366 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: You'll be familiar with this gentleman. And I'm not sure. 367 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: I think he's the owner's son. I can't remember. Yeah, yeah, 368 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: so I'll probably meet him. 369 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 2: But he has a lot of experiences in the basement itself, 370 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: it seems like, and the basement, according to him, had 371 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: not been used as a room for twenty years, and 372 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: someone had passed away there and apparently, like I think 373 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 2: women in particular have issues down there. 374 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: Did you have that experience? 375 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 4: We were working with a device. 376 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 5: It was like a motion detector device, and I think 377 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 5: it also checked for ambient temperature, and we had that 378 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 5: go off a couple of times when I was down 379 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 5: in the basement and was me and our one producer 380 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 5: who she was also the director, so like, you know, 381 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 5: both women downstairs in the basement. And that was really 382 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 5: the biggest thing that happened was our motion detector kept 383 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 5: going off and we couldn't find a cause for it, 384 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 5: so currently unknown, you know why that was happening. 385 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: So of that when you're investigating, they're like, this is 386 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: where the women get missed with, right, like get down there, 387 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: and you're like, here we go again. 388 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, but yeah, it wasn't you know, experience wise, 389 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 5: I don't think we had anything that was off the 390 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 5: wall scary, like it was a scary place just because 391 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 5: of the vibe. But you know, I don't none of 392 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 5: nobody got thrown up against the wall. Nobody, you know, nothing. 393 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: Like that, right, And I think that's part of it too, 394 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: because you hear the stories and there are like certain 395 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: very notorious rooms. You know, there is the one where 396 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: that that gentleman supposedly threw himself out the window. I believe, yes, 397 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: and he really wanted to stay in a haunted room, 398 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: like he asked the owner, did Jack sleep in that room? 399 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 4: He did? 400 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 5: Jack slept in that room? And you know, kind of 401 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 5: one of the sadder things we were told about, you know, 402 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 5: is that I guess their drug use per capita is 403 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 5: fairly high. And so I think what the Alaskan has 404 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 5: also seen as a lot of people suffering from addiction. 405 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 5: So how it was said to us is like the 406 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 5: gentleman who took his own life or jumped out. I 407 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 5: think he survived. Actually, yeah, he survived, but he jumped 408 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 5: out of the window. What was said to us is 409 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 5: it's not altogether surprising for that area, which is, you know, 410 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 5: really unfortunate, but it seems like a pattern that certainly happens. 411 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's. 412 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 2: Important to think of too, especially you know, some of 413 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: these things that happen in these locations, you sometimes do 414 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: have to kind of take a darker, deeper dive into 415 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: what it could be other than something paranormal. And yeah, 416 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: I do think that. I feel like I've heard that 417 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: just kind of in general in a lot of areas 418 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: of Alaska, like it's such a different atmosphere than we're 419 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 2: used to, you know, they don't they have a very 420 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: different daylight situation going on there. 421 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: It's isolated. 422 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 2: You know. I used to date so one years ago 423 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 2: who had lived in Alaska, and he said he has 424 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: never quite got used to it. And I think it's 425 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 2: a beautiful place and I think a lot of people 426 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: love being there, but I could see that there are 427 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 2: certain aspects of it that could wear on you. And 428 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: I do think that might have something to do with 429 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: a obviously some of these types of experiences would also 430 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: be just kind of how people feel in a place 431 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: like that, Like they might feel uneasy if they're not familiar, 432 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: if they're visiting. Yeah, in the episode itself seemed like 433 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 2: a lot of the experiences they brought up were pretty extreme, 434 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 2: But then it also seems like there's kind of just, 435 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 2: I don't want to say, run of the mill paranormal 436 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: activities maybe to you and me were like, oh, Flo's 437 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: steps knock. Yeah, but did you have anything like that 438 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: happened or do you remember people mentioning things like that 439 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 2: that just kind of went on all the time. 440 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 4: Or yeah, oh yeah. 441 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 5: I think that the overall vibe of our interviews and 442 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 5: what we had been told about people that we couldn't 443 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 5: interview was everybody knew it was haunted. 444 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: All their workers. 445 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 5: Now they might not have known when they first got hired, 446 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 5: but they certainly found out soon enough. And you know, 447 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 5: it was kind of the like you said, the run 448 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 5: in the mill activity of footsteps and voices and whispers 449 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 5: and uneasiness and maybe a door closes and shadow figures 450 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 5: was big there too, And I don't even think it 451 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 5: was shadow figures as in like a human shadow figure 452 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 5: it was like blobs of shadows people would see, and 453 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 5: we had experienced a couple of those things. I think 454 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 5: we had some interesting edps that we got there. Definitely 455 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 5: the uneasiness. We have footsteps a couple of times. I 456 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 5: think one or two of them might be explainable. But 457 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 5: there were definitely some things that popped up that didn't 458 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 5: have explanations for us. But you know, going back, it 459 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 5: is it's a really old building. You'll see when you 460 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 5: get there. It's an old building, it's creaky. There's definitely 461 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 5: room for era in that kind of stuff. I think, Yeah, 462 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 5: I think we'll probably have to be careful with that. 463 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 2: I mean, well, we're going to be there with a 464 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: pretty good sized group. Obviously, we're splitting up and taking 465 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: turns and going up and investigating. So I'm excited about that. 466 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: But did they tell you, Were there ever any employees 467 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 2: who just kind of called it a day and had 468 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: had enough and quit before the action? 469 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe so. 470 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 5: I think very specifically they had told us about. 471 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 4: I think it was as. 472 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 5: A housekeeper who had had an experience and quit. Actually, 473 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 5: I think it happened a bunch of times for them, 474 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 5: but it was one of those things of I don't 475 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 5: know if they're phased by it anymore, you know, because 476 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 5: it's happened to them a bunch of times, where an 477 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 5: employee has said something to them or a patron has 478 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 5: said something to them. So I think they're just sort 479 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 5: of like, yeah. 480 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 4: Is what it is? 481 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 5: You know, Like Jack and I had it's really funny. 482 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 5: We referenced this a lot. There was an investigation we 483 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 5: did where like horrific things happened on this property and 484 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 5: they were having a really intense haunting. And when we 485 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 5: would ask the owner about it, their response is always is. 486 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 4: What it is? 487 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 5: Or like like that's the best attitude to have, though, 488 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 5: like is what it is? 489 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 490 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: I know, I actually said back in ghost Hunters days, 491 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: we actually break Grifver and I used to say that 492 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: all the time. 493 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: We're like, it is what it is. 494 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 5: Like, this is what we're gonna do. Yeah, sometimes there's 495 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 5: no solution. Sometimes you just got to live through one. 496 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 5: And I think that's I think that's what the owners 497 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 5: the Alaskan are doing, you know. But I do think 498 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 5: there's some there's some other elements. 499 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 4: Going on there. 500 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 5: And Josh kind of leaned into that a little bit 501 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 5: off camera, you know that I kind of think there's 502 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 5: been some intentional calling of things to that place. 503 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so he kind of talked. 504 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've mentioned it when I was 505 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 2: watching the episode or not, but there might have been 506 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: some hint at that, Like what do you think that is? 507 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: Do you think it's him per se or do you 508 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: think there's other people who did it. 509 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 5: I think it's been both. And I work closely with 510 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 5: Michelle Beljay who's a psychic medium and also an occultist, 511 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 5: and she'll be the first one to tell you that 512 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 5: just because you practice certain things doesn't mean it's bad. 513 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 5: It's just the intention behind it. And I think in 514 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 5: the case that the Alaskan, I don't know that every 515 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 5: single person has had good intentions behind what they've been 516 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 5: doing there. 517 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've stumbled on a few places like that, you know, 518 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 2: especially when the activity kind of suddenly takes a turn. 519 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: And I don't like, I know, we say intention but 520 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: I also think it's almost unintentional sometimes, like they don't necessarily. 521 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: I think sometimes people underestimate the power of what they're 522 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: asking for, you know what I mean. Yeah, And like 523 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: in the kind of with Josh and particular, I was 524 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: very he was such an interesting interview, probably one of 525 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 2: the most interesting interviews I've ever seen on a parabole show. 526 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 2: He just seemed very There was a lot going on there. 527 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure you since that in. 528 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: Person, but. 529 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: He just seemed very in tune with the location itself, 530 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: and like he said that someone died in his arms, right, 531 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 3: and the like Charlie was at his name, Yeah. 532 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 4: In the hot tub in the basement. 533 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: And so do you think Charlie is still there? 534 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: He seems to think Charlie is very much still there. 535 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 5: You know. It's hard to say because I think one 536 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 5: of the drawbacks that do in television that we don't 537 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 5: always have enough time in these places. Like I think 538 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 5: sometimes to get a really accurate sense of a location, 539 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 5: it would I would want to be there for like 540 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 5: months at a time, and we just can't do that, 541 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 5: you know. So I'm seeing these locations just as glimpses. 542 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 5: Really my thought on it just based off of my 543 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 5: time there. I don't really know if Charlie is who 544 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 5: Charlie says he is. It seemed more sinister than that. 545 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 5: It seem more malevolent and seem more trickstery and in 546 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 5: my experience, those things are not human energies. Those are 547 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 5: you know, something a little different, but they you know, 548 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 5: we've certainly seen cases where those types of energies can 549 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 5: pretend to be something else to kind of gain trust, 550 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 5: gain access. As for the invitation type of thing, if 551 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 5: we're talking Catholicism, you know that would you know a 552 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 5: priest would label that a demon. He's trying to gain 553 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 5: your trust and access. You know, I don't know, people 554 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 5: can call whatever they want. It's just to me, it 555 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 5: felt like it had a deeper level than what Josh 556 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 5: was talking about. 557 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: And what a better way to kind of get through 558 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: to Josh, Like, here's someone who literally died in his arms, 559 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: and so you know, he probably already feels a connection 560 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: to that person in a way. And so of course 561 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: if there is some something or someone there watching this happen, 562 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 2: they know at that point, okay, if I present myself 563 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: as Charlie, this person's going to be more trusting. 564 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, it's it's a really sad. There's some 565 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 5: sad stories up there, especially you know, the case of 566 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 5: the rape that allegedly happened. We never found documentation of that. 567 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 5: But of course, like would you you know what I mean, 568 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 5: you probably would not find documentation of that because it 569 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 5: would be one of those things that would be really 570 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 5: easy to cover up, and people would want to cover 571 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 5: that up. And it also the time period we were 572 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 5: told it happened in, many people would probably find it acceptable. 573 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, and you know it was I mean, it 574 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: was wild, you know, it was kind of this It 575 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: was so funny because I kind of going through the history, 576 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: you know, it was meant to be this very kind 577 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: of glamorous, beautiful hotel and then which it is. I 578 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: think it's beautiful, but then it kind of just got 579 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: taken over by the fact that there wasn't really a 580 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: lot of people kind of looking over how things went. 581 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: You know, there wasn't a lot of oversight. There weren't 582 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: a lot of laws. It was very much kind of 583 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: just every man for himself, and like you were saying, 584 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: a lot of money laundering and illegal things going on, 585 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: and with that comes a lot of debauchery and very 586 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 2: bad things and depths and hauntings. It turns out, yeah, yeah, 587 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: I mean strange energy behind yeah, and I think that 588 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: that energy is kind of affected by just the atmosphere 589 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: of where it is like, I'm so curious to know, 590 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 2: you know when I the only thing I can kind 591 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: of relate it to is when we went to Iceland, 592 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: which kind of has not a similar landscape, but like 593 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: a similar climate. 594 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: Where it's daylight. 595 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: They when we went there, we went there during the 596 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: midnight sun, and I felt kind of panicky almost the 597 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: whole time because it never really equalled, you know, what 598 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: I would experience at home as far as and it 599 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: just never felt quite relaxing. And so I wonder if 600 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: just that kind of energy in general can affect the 601 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: haunting there, especially when people are coming in and out 602 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: and they're traveling from all over the world. Uh, and 603 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: then you have that energy of all those people coming 604 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: in and touring, and they're coming in on cruise ships 605 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: and they're checking it out, and then all of a sudden, 606 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: one day it just stops. The season ends. Yeah, do 607 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 2: you think that does something? Because you've probably went there 608 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: at the best time if you really think about it 609 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: that way. 610 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 5: We did, Yeah, and we were there in October and 611 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 5: it was like right as they're season had ended, and 612 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 5: you know, the locals were there and there were what 613 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 5: did they call them drifters? I guess is what they 614 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 5: called them. That they get a lot of drifters that 615 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 5: time of year, you know, people maybe looking for some 616 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 5: work or people looking for where do they go from 617 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 5: here kind of things, so they stop over in Juneo 618 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 5: and that was the atmosphere is pretty It wasn't desolate, 619 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 5: but it was just you know, you can tell you're 620 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 5: in a touristy area and there's like no tourists, so 621 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 5: it's just like, oh, this is interesting, you know because 622 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 5: even places like you know, Lake George and New York 623 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 5: that's a pretty touristy area. But even going there in 624 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 5: the off season, there was still a good amount going on, 625 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 5: you know where I felt like Juno was just like, oh, 626 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 5: there's like there's nobody here. 627 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's really no way there. I mean you obviously 628 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 2: boat are plane, but once it gets kind of gnarly outside, 629 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: you're not. 630 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: Going to make it there that way. 631 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 632 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 5: So yeah, I think, you know, it was definitely easier 633 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 5: shooting wise and investigation wise to be there when the 634 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 5: foot track was lower because you don't get the ambient 635 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 5: noise from outside. I'm sure it gets a little rowdy 636 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 5: on the main stretch there when they're in season and 637 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 5: we didn't have to deal with any of that. So 638 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 5: that was definitely, you know, a better way to go 639 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 5: for our purposes for sure. 640 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 2: Years ago, we filmed on Mackinac Island in February January, 641 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 2: something I would not recommend. 642 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was not the time to be. 643 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: There's a beautiful place, but one thing that we heard 644 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: from the locals is that people would go there in 645 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 2: the winter to hide from any number of things. You know, 646 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: some people go there to write, some people would go 647 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 2: there because they were literally like felons on the uh 648 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 2: oh wow. And I don't know, Juno just kind of 649 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 2: strikes me as kind of a similar vibe where that 650 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: kind that time of year, you probably have some really 651 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 2: interesting characters kind of yeing about. 652 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I want to be surprised. 653 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 5: That's kind of like how things were alluded to us, 654 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 5: you know, and I know Jack talked to the cops 655 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 5: and everything, so they kind of like let us in 656 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 5: on what I guess maybe the seed your side of 657 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 5: the town. 658 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 2: That's so interesting. I love that well, I can't wait 659 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 2: to visit it. I love having more insights. This actually 660 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: was completely by chance that this podcast episode happened just 661 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 2: two months before I'm heading that way. It was just 662 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: kind of you know, we plan these pretty far in advance, 663 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,959 Speaker 2: so I'm really excited about it. So I'm really glad 664 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: you were able to join us and tell us a 665 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 2: little bit about your experiences. Yeah. 666 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, well thanks for having me. I hope your trip 667 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 4: goes well. I'll keep you posting nothing too crazy half and. 668 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: So tell us like, what are you up to? What 669 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 2: how can people find you? I know you have new 670 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 2: music out which I'm obsessed with, so please tell everyone. 671 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, so definitely on all the major socials, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, 672 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 5: YouTube at Katrina Wideman my last name spelled weid Man. 673 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 4: And as far as current projects. 674 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 5: I'm doing a YouTube series called Travel the Dead and 675 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 5: that is very much the peak behind the curtain of 676 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 5: what it is to be an investigator. It's me and 677 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 5: my best friend, Heather Taddy, who we met on Paranormal State. 678 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 5: So she and I very much started our paranormal careers together, 679 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 5: and these are the private cases that we're asked to do, 680 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 5: and so you're kind of getting an inside look at 681 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 5: what it's like to do that. 682 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love her. That's great. 683 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 2: I've actually watched a bit of it and it's it's 684 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 2: really something, so people need to go check it out. 685 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: I thank you. 686 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really raw and gritty, but we did not 687 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 5: want it to you know, we just wanted it to 688 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 5: be what it was, which is Paranormal Investigating is roll 689 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 5: on gritty like, so we didn't want to pretty it 690 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 5: up or anything. So it's a very intimate doc series. 691 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 5: And then my music, for people who might not know, 692 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 5: that's my background is a music and theater So when 693 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 5: we were kids, paranormal investigating wasn't a job. 694 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: So like we all. 695 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 5: Kind of had other avenues before. I think this found 696 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 5: us and mine was music in theater. So I put 697 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 5: out my debut singles the sole Artist on March thirty first, 698 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 5: and that's called Suffer Me, and you can download it 699 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 5: and stream and Spotify iTunes all your major platforms. And 700 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 5: then second singles coming out in a few weeks. 701 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 702 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 2: I know, whenever we get together and Adam Barry is there, 703 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 2: I just kind of disappear. Well, the two of you 704 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 2: talk musical theater. 705 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 4: Talk musical theater. 706 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, probably because I'm obsessed with he was in It's 707 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 5: my favorite musical it's called bat Boy, and he was 708 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 5: in that, and so I'm always like fascinated that he 709 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 5: got to be in that show because it's such a 710 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 5: great show. 711 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: I love it. I have the most talented, wonderful friends. 712 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: I love it so well. 713 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 4: Thank you. 714 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 2: It was really great chatting with you, and I really 715 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 2: hope we run into each other in persons. You know, 716 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure we will. We're always kind of passing by. 717 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, hopefully I see you very soon. 718 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely well. I can't wait to hear about your 719 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 4: trip to the Alaskaan. 720 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 5: All right, thank you, Okay, see Amy. 721 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 2: The Alaskan Hotel feels like a genuine TimewARP, so I 722 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 2: suppose it's no surprise that time slips are one of 723 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 2: the reports there. It's rare you find a hotel that 724 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 2: bowl that has changed hands so few times and where 725 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 2: so little has changed within its walls, the furnishings, the 726 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 2: feel all seemed to be almost as it was the 727 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 2: day it opened. It makes you wonder if that's why 728 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 2: many restless souls don't feel compelled to leave or go elsewhere. 729 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 2: The Alaskan has become their beacon, never wavering, never changing, 730 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 2: and seemingly always there. I'm excited to visit there soon myself. 731 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 2: I'll report back on what, if anything happens. I'm Aymy 732 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 2: Bruney and this was Haunted Road. Haunted Road is hosted 733 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 2: and written by me Amy Brune with additional research by 734 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: Taylor Haggerdorn and Cassan Alba. This show is edited and 735 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: produced by Rima el Kali, with supervising producer Josh Thain 736 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 2: and executive producers Aaron Manke, Alex Williams, and Matt Frederick. 737 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 2: Haunted Road is a production of iHeartRadio and Grim and 738 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: Mild from Aaron Menke. Learn more about this show over 739 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 2: at Grimandmild dot com, and for more podcasts from iHeartRadio, 740 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 2: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts 741 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: Or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.