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Speaker 1: Today's Supreme Court issuing a major, major ruling affirming that

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Speaker 1: states have the right to reject planned parenthood from Medicaid.

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Speaker 1: That will be followed in a couple weeks by a

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Speaker 1: vote in Congress to potentially defund planned parent at the

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Speaker 1: federal level. Now, normally we dig a deep dive in

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Speaker 1: the headlines, but today we're going to do something different.

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Speaker 2: Amanda, We'll be back tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to team up today with the great Steve Gruber,

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Speaker 1: my colleague here at Real America's Voice. We want to

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Speaker 1: tackle a topic that you probably don't know much about,

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Speaker 1: probably just started hearing about a couple weeks ago, but

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Speaker 1: it is a serious, serious problem, the threat, the growing

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Speaker 1: threat of agroterrorism. You know about the three Michigan scientists

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Speaker 1: hall from China. Three Chinese scientists working in the United

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Speaker 1: States in Michigan at the University of Michigan being arrested,

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Speaker 1: bringing in deadly pathogency the United States. You know about

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Speaker 1: the story we broke earlier this week on the show.

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Speaker 1: A thousand scientists have been brought into this country from

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Speaker 1: hostile nations like China, working at the NIH They weren't

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Speaker 1: properly vetted. Now we're scrambling under the Trump administration to

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Speaker 1: vet them. The potential for a famine causing or food

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Speaker 1: disrupting as act is higher than it's ever been. In Tonight,

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Speaker 1: we're going to bring you into the real world, including

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Speaker 1: introducing you to a defector from the Chinese scientific community,

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Speaker 1: doctor Lee Mengnen. You'll may be amazed by her story

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Speaker 1: and what she says China is plotting and planning. She

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Speaker 1: knows she worked for them. But before we get to

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Speaker 1: all that, let me bring in my amazing co host

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Speaker 1: for the Evening, the one the Only, Steve Goover, Steve,

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Speaker 1: good to have you.

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Speaker 2: I'm good to be teaming up with you tonight.

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Speaker 3: John good to see it. Glad to be here, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Listen, this is such a great idea. I know you

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Speaker 1: came up with this idea. I'm so excited. I don't

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Speaker 1: think six months ago people were thinking, boy, I have

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Speaker 1: to worry about famine in the United States because some

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Speaker 1: roundworm or some pathogen is going to get released and

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Speaker 1: I could wipe out our crops. And then these three

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Speaker 1: scientists get picked up. We're all a little bit more

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Speaker 1: aware of things now.

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Speaker 4: Well, as you mentioned off the top, so many headlines.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the news cycle is intense these days, to

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Speaker 4: say the least.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump doesn't sow down.

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Speaker 4: You've got the you've got the economy, You've got the

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Speaker 4: Supreme Court, you've got the Warner run. And we're missing

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Speaker 4: the point that maybe one of the biggest stories is

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Speaker 4: right under our noses.

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Speaker 3: Our food supply is vulnerable.

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Speaker 4: It's vulnerable to the Chinese Communist Party, it's vulnerable to

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Speaker 4: the scientists at NIH that you just mentioned. It's vulnerable

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Speaker 4: because we haven't been paying close.

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Speaker 3: Enough attention to John, and we really need.

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Speaker 4: To because if they can destroy the crops, they can

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Speaker 4: destroy America without ever firing a shot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, that is the Chinese playbook. They

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Speaker 1: don't want a kinetic war. They want to feed us

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Speaker 1: through these alternative means. I want to ask real Cookie

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Speaker 1: before we get to our first guests. You're at ground

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Speaker 1: zero for where this story broke a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: What has been the reaction in Michigan to realize that

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Speaker 1: they had these scientists smuggling in these dangerous pathogens.

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Speaker 4: Well, as you can imagine, people like Governor Whimer say nothing.

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Speaker 4: Of course, she has encouraged Chinese investment in Michigan with

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Speaker 3: They know how vulnerable they are.

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Speaker 4: They know if they can't defend against a fungus or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Most of these are airborne.

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Speaker 1: They move the wind, can move them from one location

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Speaker 1: really excited about our first guest. She first blew the

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Speaker 1: told us that just like we now know that the

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Speaker 1: COVID virus was in fact man made and leaked from

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Speaker 2: But today she is.

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Speaker 1: Sounding the alarm about China's larger intentions with our food supply.

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Speaker 1: Take a look at this incredible interview we did earlier

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Speaker 1: this week with doctor Lee Meng. Yeah, all right, joining

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Speaker 1: us now a person. It was on the front lines

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Speaker 1: of China's bio research, Chinese biologists and coronavirus. What's the more,

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Speaker 1: doctor Leminghan. Doctor, good to have you on the show.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, John, Thank you for having me again.

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Speaker 2: It's a great honor. I want to start with a question.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of Americans have, which is, why

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Speaker 1: does China have research that tries to make viruses more

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Speaker 1: deadly like the coronaviruses that escape from the Wuhan lab,

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Speaker 1: And why is it that their researchers are now trying

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Speaker 1: to bring in pathogency the United States that have the

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Speaker 1: potential to do great harm to our crowns. What's the intention?

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Speaker 1: What does it's China doing this for the good of

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Speaker 5: Ah Hi, John, These are a very good question. And

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Speaker 5: since I reviewed the COVID nineteen origin, I keep telling

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Speaker 5: people that I come from that regime. I know what

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Speaker 5: why is the folks on file weapons about heroism? Because

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Speaker 5: according to ccap's doctrine, they believe that bile weapons are

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Speaker 5: a poor people's nuclear weapons, so they treat it as

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Speaker 5: the alternative form of the nuclear weapons with the more cost.

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Speaker 5: And it's very easy to manipulate the passagings. So you

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Speaker 5: say that during COVID nineteen and they release the weaponize

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Speaker 5: over millions of deaths, and the treatise of US and

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Speaker 5: Also now we say just within several weeks this year,

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Speaker 5: the worms, which can cause about security threats to the

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Speaker 5: University of Michigan could help them to do this kind

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Speaker 5: see that CCPs infiltration deeply rooted in the University of Michigan,

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Speaker 5: esponages and also pro CCP campaigns in the US to

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Speaker 5: gain your high technology, gain your taxpayers money, gain your resources,

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Speaker 5: and make these weaponized passages to create damage to the US.

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Speaker 5: Because here is the answer of your question that the

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Speaker 5: US Americans are the primary enemy for communist China. For

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Speaker 2: Amazing.

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Speaker 4: You know, China is at war with America, even though

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Speaker 4: America may not realize the doctor they're targeting us when

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Speaker 4: we're sitting here complacent too often. I read one of

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Speaker 4: your articles here recently about how they're targeting using quote

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Speaker 3: They introduced not.

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Speaker 4: Just fungus and ring worm and round worm like they

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Speaker 4: other path leigiens to destroy plants and food shortages. That's

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Speaker 4: the ultimate goal here, because if you can take the

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're seeing? Oh?

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Speaker 5: Here is an exacting word from people's viperational armies textbook.

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Speaker 5: This textbook named the Biosecurity and it was published as

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Speaker 5: read a food textbook and this is not the only

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Speaker 5: textbook talking about how you weapons nice passages and under

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Speaker 5: that about weapon targeting both human and also agriculture is

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Speaker 5: also target their food supply chain. Like for example, China

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Speaker 5: can hurt human, animal and agriculture. So why China purchase

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Speaker 5: for example the very famous case the full Phone Group

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Speaker 1: Doctor, I want to talk about the experience you have.

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Speaker 1: You come to the United States, you blow the whistle

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Speaker 1: on COVID nineteen, you say it's most likely genetically created

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Speaker 1: the last few weeks that the DEIA came to the

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Speaker 5: I want to tell you that first, I know this

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Speaker 5: tell you that's why FBI was among the few intelligence

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Speaker 5: agencies back to Biden administration telling that this is from

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Speaker 5: the Colinineen's from the Chinese lab. At that time, most

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Speaker 5: of intelligence agencies that, oh, as I don't know, or

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Speaker 5: We have more evidence not only about the COVID nineteen origin,

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Speaker 4: I say that because cashpital support smuggling and non aggrotaris

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Speaker 3: University Michigan fifty four million dollars, and I.

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Speaker 4: Think if we go around this country, you'll find other

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Speaker 1: Doctor. I want to ask one quick question. That is,

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Speaker 1: Yeah so well, soome doctor, you took the courage to

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Speaker 2: Go flow the whist on what China was doing.

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Speaker 1: Our scientific community impuned you for a while, but history

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Speaker 1: honor to have you on the show. Tay, thank you

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Speaker 5: Thank you see your next time.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what a great conversation. What an extraordinary woman.

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Speaker 7: That I think it's message all right, welcome back now.

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Speaker 3: Over the last couple of.

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Speaker 4: Weeks, I've traveled to speak with real farmers in their

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Speaker 3: Supply will give you pause.

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Speaker 8: The problem with Americans is they look at war as

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Speaker 8: The Chinese, however, know perfectly well they are war with

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Speaker 3: We've written the cyber.

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Speaker 3: And those are just some easy examples.

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Speaker 9: Bioterrorism by a warfare, yes, warfare, warfare without fire and shot.

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Speaker 8: Mark Benjamin is a sixth generation farmer in southern Michigan.

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Speaker 8: The Stanley began feeding the nation sometime around eighteen eighty

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Speaker 8: They faced a Great depression, floods, droughts, and tornadoes as well.

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Speaker 8: But Mark says the recent arrest of several Chinese students

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Speaker 8: he takes quite seriously. From what you've read, from what

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Speaker 9: Right now, we can treat the diseases on wheat and

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Speaker 9: The third person snuck into the US is stuff that

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Speaker 3: What would that mean? That would mean that.

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Speaker 9: Easily wipe out half the crop half half easy? If

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Speaker 9: it's on wheat right now, every year we're dealing with it.

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Speaker 9: Even sometimes when it's treated for it, you'll still get

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Speaker 9: docked if the wheat has too much vomitox in it.

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Speaker 4: If you look around, you know, wheat, corn beans, whatever

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Speaker 3: If America lost half of its crop, what would that mean.

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Speaker 9: If the fungus was to be enhanced so it's or potent,

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Speaker 8: That's right, Famine like America has never known because from

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Speaker 3: And for the last one hundred and.

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Speaker 8: Fifty years, America and the American farmers have fed the world.

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Speaker 8: In fact, America is currently exports about twenty five percent

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Speaker 10: Back Roads like this have been the backbone of America

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Speaker 3: This, they're worried.

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Speaker 10: They're worried that their livestile being taken away.

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Speaker 10: They're not being targeted by China, and they're worried because

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Speaker 11: If they're willing to sneak in fungus now, and they're

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Speaker 11: any other genetics, we're catching them already. We can expect

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Speaker 3: And if they starve us to death, they probably don't care,

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Speaker 11: And that's where we need to rely on our politicians

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Speaker 8: Alex Clark is another family farmer who's deeply concerned about

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Speaker 3: I mean, here you are are fourth generation family farm. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: China shows up.

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Speaker 4: They buy the seed company, that buy the meatpacking company.

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Speaker 3: They send their scientists here to steal intellectual property.

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Speaker 4: When we make advancements at Michigan State or Texas A

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Speaker 11: It's upsetting because for like my brother and I, we're

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Speaker 11: So we're kind of at the mercy of our country

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Speaker 3: Likely manipulating them all.

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Speaker 11: We know they maynipulate the markets with you know, dipping

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Speaker 8: So what if what if China took the next step

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Speaker 3: What would that mean?

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Speaker 8: Well, according to Mark Benjamin, the damage would be far

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Speaker 3: He believes it could destroy the nation altogether.

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Speaker 9: You take out the US economy. How farms fail, you

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Speaker 9: the land the house is sitting on. You whip out

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Speaker 9: US farms, land values crash to practically nothing all of

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Speaker 9: a sudden, overnight, housing mortgages are upside down because the

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Speaker 9: land is citting on that costs fifty eight thousand dollars

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Speaker 9: is now worth one two thousand dollars. And then that's

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Speaker 9: a problem for all the banks and going to go

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Speaker 9: back to the same housing crisis with mortgage crisis we

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Speaker 9: had ten fifteen years ago. And then the US is

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Speaker 9: spending all what's money to try to keep that afloat,

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Speaker 9: and we're no longer able to invest in defense.

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Speaker 4: So China brings in a fungus, creates an agricultural failure,

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Speaker 4: creates a failure of farms, creates a crash in the

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Speaker 4: price of land, creates a bank panic, creates a default

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Speaker 4: by the federal government.

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Speaker 3: Is that about right? One domino after another? Yes?

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Speaker 8: So are we at war? It's pretty clear we are.

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Speaker 8: It's pretty clear that China has been targeting us on

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Speaker 8: every level, from supply chains to the energy grid and

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Speaker 8: now our food. And if you can take out the

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Speaker 8: food supply, as you've now heard, you can bring down

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Speaker 8: the entire nation. Like Mark said, you could do it

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Speaker 8: without firing a shot. Is it an active war? It's

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Speaker 8: an active war.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 4: So what will it take for Americans to recognize the

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Speaker 4: clear and present danger that is China?

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Speaker 8: And what will Washington do to protect our farms from

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Speaker 8: being destroyed by pests delivered potentially? The bottom line is

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Speaker 8: this targeting American agriculture is just another strategy and the

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Speaker 8: Chinese approach of asymmetrical warfare designed to weaken America from

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Speaker 8: the inside out, and you lasting damage to us economically, socially,

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Speaker 8: and politically.

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Speaker 4: An act of war without firing a shot. Pretty frightening, right,

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Speaker 4: But we're going to stay on top of the destroy

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Speaker 4: because if you've just seen what a foreign power could

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Speaker 4: do to our food supply with very little effort, I

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Speaker 4: might add, it's incredibly dangerous and the government needs to

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Speaker 4: start doing more to protect us. Right now, we'll have

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Speaker 4: more for you after the break. Staying right there, welcome

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Speaker 4: back to this special report. John Solomon and I looking

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Speaker 4: into a topic tonight that isn't often discussed but should be.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about America's food supply, how fragile it really is.

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Speaker 4: And we've got a good reminder of that after the

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Speaker 4: FBI announced they had arrested two Chinese scientists were struggling

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Speaker 4: a toxic fungus into my home state of Michigan. A

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Speaker 4: third has now been arrested. So do we have the

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Speaker 4: place in place the safeguards we need joining us now?

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Speaker 4: Someone who can help answer that act. She represents the

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Speaker 4: great state of Illinois is on the House Agriculture Committee,

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Speaker 4: Congresswoman Mary Miller.

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Speaker 3: Congress Woman, thank you for being here, Thank you for

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Speaker 3: having me.

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Speaker 12: Also, my husband and I farm in central Illinois, so

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Speaker 12: I can tell you as a representative from the AG community,

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Speaker 12: and then being on the Ag Committee, that having open

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Speaker 12: borders as a concern for us in light of agriterrorism,

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Speaker 12: and you know here we are. We've got proof sure

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Speaker 12: and one thing I don't want people to do is

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Speaker 12: to forget the damage that Joe Biden did when he

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Speaker 12: opened up the border.

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Speaker 6: Never forget.

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Speaker 4: How concern were you a congressman when you heard about

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Speaker 4: these University of Michigan students coming in.

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Speaker 3: I mean, where you live is the heart of corn country.

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Speaker 4: It's corn, it's beans, it's wheat, It's along the Mississippi River,

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Speaker 4: a huge part of central Illinois. It would destroy American farms,

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Speaker 4: wouldn't it.

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Speaker 12: Yes, Well, this is this particular case is some kind

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Speaker 12: of fungus that would cause a blight in grains such

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Speaker 12: as wheat and barley, but it also causes illness in humans.

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Speaker 12: But we let so many people in Joe Biden basically

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Speaker 12: advertise and incentivize the invasion. But we know that tens

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Speaker 12: of thousands of Chinese nationals walked across the border. So

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Speaker 12: not only those that we let in and gave them

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Speaker 12: student visas and they're on our campuses doing supposed research,

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Speaker 12: we have all these other ones that walked in. It's

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Speaker 12: a terrible problem because China is our enemy. They've infiltrated

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Speaker 12: all of our institutions. They are not to be trusted.

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Speaker 12: And you know, we need to backtrack on who's here

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Speaker 12: and what their intentions are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, congresswomen, We had a story the other day on

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Speaker 1: Justin News confirming that the Trump administration is investigating more

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Speaker 1: than a thousand NIH researchers who were given visas from

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Speaker 1: the NIH, but they hail from countries that are called

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Speaker 1: countries have concerned those who are hostile to the United States.

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Speaker 1: China is the largest portion of that thousand. The reason

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Speaker 1: that investigation was launched. These scientists apparently weren't properly vetted

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Speaker 1: when they were first let in. Congress has a lot

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Speaker 1: of oversight capabilities. Is is this an agency and I

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Speaker 1: set maybe needs to be reined in a little bit.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely, And the American people want to know who's coming

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Speaker 12: here and why the whole world wants to come here.

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Speaker 12: We should be choosy about who's coming and where they're

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Speaker 12: coming from. And they need to be properly vetted. You know,

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Speaker 12: under the Biden administration, even the people that came during

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Speaker 12: the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, that many of them were not

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Speaker 12: properly vetted. So we need to backtrack and go back

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Speaker 12: and find out who's here and do proper vetting on them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when it comes time to do that vetting and

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Speaker 4: looking for answers condres. And my question is is, look,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of money behind this, a lot of

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Speaker 4: money being pumped in by the CCP into academia, into

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Speaker 4: agricultural companies. China controls meatpacking plans like Smithfield, they control Syngenta,

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Speaker 4: which is a seed company. I mean, they've got their

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Speaker 4: tentacles into all these different areas of agriculture, and I just.

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Speaker 3: Feel like it's the wild West. Let's say you.

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Speaker 12: It's a national security issue, and I'm glad that we

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Speaker 12: have someone President Trump at the top that loves our

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Speaker 12: country and cares and recognizes it and has the courage

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Speaker 12: to not only speak out against it, but to stand

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Speaker 12: up against it. And we need to halt immigration and

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Speaker 12: student visas from China definitely, as well as many other

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Speaker 12: countries that our known enemies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, kinuswoman, the Committee's been very business this year, and

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Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time, farmers are

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Speaker 1: getting some of the policy attention they were denied under

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Speaker 1: a Democratic Congress, democratic president. What are some of the

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Speaker 1: most important initiatives in your committee right now looking to

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Speaker 1: aim to protect the food supply, grow the food supply,

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Speaker 1: make sure that we don't have an artificially caused famine

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Speaker 1: because of one of our enemies.

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Speaker 12: Well, I mean, the borders have to be secured, and

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Speaker 12: like I said, we need to go back and do

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Speaker 12: a like a backtracking on our vetting process for the

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Speaker 12: student visas, especially in the like we have a land

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Speaker 12: grant university at the University of Illinois and we have

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Speaker 12: a lot of Chinese nationals there on student visas, and

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Speaker 12: we need to backtrack on that vetting process. But a

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Speaker 12: lot of important things coming up for that ag community.

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Speaker 12: The farmers are hurting big time because of four years

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Speaker 12: of out of control inflation and then passive trade policy,

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Speaker 12: and right now we're looking at blow blow break even

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Speaker 12: prices for our grain. It's a serious issue. We got

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Speaker 12: to be there to support our producers and the American

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Speaker 12: people don't want corporate ag taking over our food supply.

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Speaker 3: We've had that in the protein processing. You brought it up.

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Speaker 12: One out of our four main protein processors is owned

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Speaker 12: by China, another one's owned by Brazil. This should not

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Speaker 12: it's the national security issue.

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Speaker 2: That's a great point.

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Speaker 4: You touch on something really important there, and that is

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Speaker 4: half of the pigs live in America.

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Speaker 3: They our Chinese owned Smithfield.

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Speaker 4: The Giants hacking company is owned by China since two

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Speaker 4: thousand and four.

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Speaker 3: Of these are a great time.

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Speaker 4: And you mentioned a congresswoman the family farm.

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Speaker 3: There you have one. They're in Illinois.

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Speaker 4: Family farmly going bankrupt at an ever faster rate while

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Speaker 4: corporate farming continues to gobble up land and power. And

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Speaker 4: they seem to be and maybe I'm wrong, correct me

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Speaker 4: if i am, but it would seem to me watching

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Speaker 4: this they're more susceptible to all that money coming from

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Speaker 4: China and anywhere else that doesn't have our best interest

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Speaker 4: in mind.

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Speaker 3: Is that a concern of yours? It's definitely a concern.

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Speaker 12: And like I say, a lot of our policies that

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Speaker 12: we're implementing, our driving consolidation and industry. And one of

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Speaker 12: the things I'm going to bring up is the green scam,

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Speaker 12: which I'm very thrilled that President Trump is speaking out

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Speaker 12: against it. The big beautiful bill that we passed and

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Speaker 12: went to the Senate is rolling back the IRA tax credits.

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Speaker 12: Not one Republican voted for it, but they are covering

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Speaker 12: I could tell you in Illinois, they're covering class A,

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Speaker 12: Class B farm ground, the best farm ground in the

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Speaker 12: world with solar panels and windmills, and a lot of

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Speaker 12: those people are they that are bullied up to these subsidies.

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Speaker 12: They don't own the land there, but the ones that do,

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Speaker 12: they're the ones now that had the money to go

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Speaker 12: buy overpriced farm ground or out rent through options. And

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Speaker 12: it will cause consolidation on agriculture. Not to mention it's

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Speaker 12: really bad management of our beautiful land.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to just ask real quickly.

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Speaker 1: The Big Beautiful Bill has a lot of provisions that

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Speaker 1: will benefit the family farmer also ensure that the family

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Speaker 1: farmers able to bring its generations down and without losing

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Speaker 1: having to sell the farm because of taxes and death taxes.

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Speaker 1: Could you tell us how important some of those provisions

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Speaker 1: are to farmers.

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Speaker 12: It's very important. We got to pass the tax or

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Speaker 12: make the Tax Cutting Jobs Act. We've got to make

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Speaker 12: sure that's put in permanent law. And that's one of

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Speaker 12: the most important things in that big beautiful Bill. And

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Speaker 12: you know, I just think the whole economy will be

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Speaker 12: heading to recession if we don't get that passed quickly.

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Speaker 12: I think the markets are nervous, and I could tell

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Speaker 12: you at the family farm. It will be gone if

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Speaker 12: we don't get that because the taxes not being able

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Speaker 12: to write off investments quickly and then also pass the

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Speaker 12: farm onto the next generation. Not just for the family farm,

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Speaker 12: but also for family businesses, small businesses.

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Speaker 2: So important, very important.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you being here a congress women.

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Speaker 4: I gave you the last word here because the family

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Speaker 4: farms in trouble is being attacked by large agricultural interest

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Speaker 4: It's being attacked by governments from overseas and possibly by well,

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Speaker 4: could be could be a ringworm, could be a pathogen

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Speaker 4: of unknown origin.

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Speaker 3: A lot of concerns for the farm in America. I'll

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Speaker 3: give you the last word.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think that we need to look at the

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Speaker 12: policies that have been hurting the family farmer. You know,

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Speaker 12: we need to make sure that energy is cheap, tamping

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Speaker 12: down inflation, which President Trump and understands all these things.

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Speaker 12: But also we need to have a robust trade policy.

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Speaker 12: And I'm appalled that we have imported. I believe in

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Speaker 12: the last couple of years we have imported billions of

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Speaker 12: pounds of hamburger into our country. We have every ability

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Speaker 12: to be producing our own beef, but we have bad

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Speaker 12: policies that disincentivize beef production, and so I think we

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Speaker 12: need to look at those things and get us back

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Speaker 12: on track to be highly productive in our ag sector.

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Speaker 3: Congress, I think we all agree with that. Congress from

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Speaker 3: Mary Miller of Illinois, thank you for being here. You're welcome.

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Speaker 3: They appreciate it. All right, we'll take a break and

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Speaker 3: be right back on Just the New. There's no Noise.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the special edition of Just

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Speaker 4: the News, No Noise. A little earlier, I had the

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Speaker 4: chance to speak to an expert who's been predicting we

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Speaker 4: may see a global famine and soon. He had some

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Speaker 4: interesting perspectives on just what could cause it. Listen to

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Speaker 4: this well, as we know, the world's population is growing fast.

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Speaker 4: But when it comes to the question of a global

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Speaker 4: food crisis, opinions are divided. On one side, there are

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Speaker 4: those who warn that we're running out of resources needed

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Speaker 4: to feed billions of people on the planet. On the

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Speaker 4: other side, skeptics that call that fear overblown, just another

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Speaker 4: round of doomsday predictions, they say. But in his book

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Speaker 4: The Coming of Famine, author Julian Cribbs sides with the

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Speaker 4: warning camp. He joins me now from Austria. Julian, thank

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Speaker 4: you for joining us here.

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Speaker 6: Believing.

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Speaker 4: Now, as you know, we were discussing just before you

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Speaker 4: came on, how vulnerable the food supplies are, regardless of

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Speaker 4: what the cause might be.

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Speaker 3: And I want to go over this a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I want people to understand we're really just a moment

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Speaker 4: awagh at any given time of having starvation on this planet.

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Speaker 3: Whatever the cause.

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Speaker 4: Could be a pathogen brought in by the Chinese, could

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Speaker 4: be a drought, could be a flood, could be weather

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Speaker 4: patterns that create problems and cause crop failure in the

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Speaker 4: United States or Canada, South America, Ukraine, wherever that problem

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Speaker 4: may be.

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Speaker 3: You tell me we're only a few weeks.

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Speaker 4: Away at any given moment from having a full blown

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Speaker 4: famine in great parts of this world.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about that.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that's correct.

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Speaker 13: So generally there are twelve to sixteen weeks of grain

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Speaker 13: in store worldwide, and then another harvest comes in, whether

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Speaker 13: it's in the Northern hemisphere or whether it's in the

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Speaker 13: Southern hemisphere.

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Speaker 6: And that keeps on rolling.

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Speaker 13: And that's what keeps the food in the supermarkets worldwide. Now,

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Speaker 13: the thing you've got to bear in mind is there

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Speaker 13: are twenty five million a billion meals being eaten every

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Speaker 13: single day, twenty five billion meals, right, and if there's

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Speaker 13: any glitch in that supply, then people starve. And when

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Speaker 13: people starve, governments come down. So you can get a

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Speaker 13: fairly catastrophic failure in short order. And let me just

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Speaker 13: run through you mentioned resources. About around a third of

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Speaker 13: the world's top soil has already been lost, a well

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Speaker 13: attested scientific figure. We're losing seventy five billion tons of

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Speaker 13: soil just by farming every single year. Okay, so within

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Speaker 13: fifty years we're going to run out of soil.

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Speaker 6: We're running out of water.

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Speaker 13: Fresh water is in extremely scarce supply in the Middle East,

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Speaker 13: in Central Asia, in North China, in the North Indian Plain,

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Speaker 13: all of those places around the world.

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Speaker 6: We're running out of water.

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Speaker 13: And our water grows forty percent of the world's food

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Speaker 13: on irrigation. Okay, so if you run out of that water,

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Speaker 13: you can't grow that food. So that's another vulnerability. The

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Speaker 13: next thing is that we're using five million tons of

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Speaker 13: highly toxic pesticides in agriculture around the world every single year,

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Speaker 13: and those are having a very untoward effect on the

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Speaker 13: health of the soil and on the farming environment.

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Speaker 3: Those are all critical factory.

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Speaker 6: Effect is but it's a negative.

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Speaker 3: One, right.

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Speaker 4: There are all factors here, But this whole, this whole

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Speaker 4: emergency famine, if you will, could be expedited by a

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Speaker 4: pathogen being brought in that could cause crime failure long

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Speaker 4: before any of those things that you just laid out

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Speaker 4: would become a concern.

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Speaker 3: Do you concern.

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Speaker 4: Yourself with what we call bioterrorism agro terrorism? Somebody introducing

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Speaker 4: a parasite, a bug, a fungus, a bacteria, any of

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Speaker 4: those things.

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Speaker 3: Do you concern yourself on such things?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 13: Yes, indeed, I mean anthrax was used against the horses

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Speaker 13: that pulled the guns in World War One, So bioterrorism

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Speaker 13: is a not unfamiliar thing. People have been thinking about

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Speaker 13: it for well over one hundred years, and there are

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Speaker 13: people tinkering, as we know now with dangerous viruses and

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Speaker 13: bacteria of various kinds, and genetic engineering is creating new

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Speaker 13: and underwards strains of these things.

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Speaker 6: So it's quite possible.

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Speaker 13: But the qualifier is that if you released something like that,

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Speaker 13: it would start off having a very local effect, and

743
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Speaker 13: if you could quarantine it, then you could control it.

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Speaker 13: But the problem now is that there are out of

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Speaker 13: the thirty thousand edible plants on the world, we eat

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Speaker 13: six main crops, and that makes those crops terribly vulnerable

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Speaker 13: to new pathogens, whether they're man made or not.

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Speaker 3: So wheat my suggestion, and corn barley clearly.

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Speaker 4: But the conserv would be if one country had created

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Speaker 4: a past resistant or a fungus resistant strain of corn

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Speaker 4: or rice, or whatever the case might be, before they

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Speaker 4: released the pathogen into the rest of the world, they

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Speaker 4: could eat when others couldn't. You could have a man

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Speaker 4: made catastrophe for some and maybe not for others, a

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Speaker 4: designed famine. That's what concerns me here today.

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Speaker 13: It generally takes several years for a pathogen, a new

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Speaker 13: pathogen like wheat rust for example, to spread around the world.

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Speaker 13: So the chances are that you can quarantine and that

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Speaker 13: you can breed resistant strains before.

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Speaker 6: It arrives in your neck of the woods.

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Speaker 13: It depends where you are, and it depends where it's released,

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Speaker 13: and it depends how much grain you are shipping from

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Speaker 13: that area around the world and therefore transporting helping to

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Speaker 13: distribute the mechanic the pest. So yes look it's a vulnerability,

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Speaker 13: but like biological warfare compared to nuclear warfare, it's not

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Speaker 13: the worst possibility.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, America exports twenty five percent of its grain twenty

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Speaker 4: five percent, so if America had a failure, regardless of cause,

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Speaker 4: places like Sub Saharan Africa would pay the price in

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Speaker 4: hunger in a way that other less vulnerable places would not.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you the last word, sir.

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Speaker 13: Most of America's grain is used for feeding cattle and livestock,

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Speaker 13: so that would be the industry worst hit. First, we'd

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Speaker 13: run out of meat, basically. But let me say this,

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Speaker 13: we can overcome all of these problems if we go

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Speaker 13: to renewable food. We need to go to renewable food,

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Speaker 13: which is food that has not produced agriculturally, that is

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Speaker 13: climate resistant.

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Speaker 6: And which has not grown on farmers.

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Speaker 13: Basically, then you can feed everybody everywhere in the world safely.

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Speaker 4: And we'll save that conversation for the next time around.

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Speaker 4: Julian Crib, I really appreciate you being here. The book

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Speaker 4: is The Coming Famine.

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Speaker 3: If you want to.

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Speaker 4: Read it, I suggest you do and find out more

786
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Speaker 4: and be prepared.

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Speaker 3: Julian, thank you so much for being here. It's all fascinating,

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Speaker 3: it says.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so coming up next, John and I will have

790
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Speaker 4: some final thoughts on what we've learned.

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Speaker 3: Tonight, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in America. Just a few minutes left in

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Speaker 1: this very special discussion. I've really been honored to be

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Speaker 1: joined tonight by my amazing colleague Steve Gruber.

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Speaker 2: This is an important topic and I'm going to bring

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Speaker 2: Steve right in.

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Speaker 1: Steve, I walked away today with two incredible impressions, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like I know a lot of things being

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Speaker 1: in Washington. But when you listen to doctor Yen and

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Speaker 1: you see the little literally the program that China has

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Speaker 1: at every scientist that's going to come to the United

802
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Speaker 1: States signing a contract, they're given their orders, and as

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Speaker 1: she said, they act like parasites, sucking all of our

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Speaker 1: knowledge out of us and taking it back to that

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Speaker 1: one day they can destroy us.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty dramatic moment in the show.

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Speaker 1: We got to educate the Americans that this is the

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Speaker 1: Chinese's plan.

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Speaker 3: We certainly do.

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Speaker 4: Look the farmers I talk to, they know that it's

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Speaker 4: out there because they see they're buying seeds from China.

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Speaker 4: Some of the right they're buying fertilizer from China some

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Speaker 4: on them all. So they realize that as a back

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Speaker 4: and forth, and they realize these tentacles are in there.

815
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Speaker 4: But you look at these these pathogens being brought in

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Speaker 4: University of Michigan, for example, and this sends a chill

817
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Speaker 4: down their spine. They know that China has somewhere close

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Speaker 4: to half a million acres of farmland in America, and

819
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Speaker 4: that's not a significant amount, it's less than one percent.

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Speaker 4: Until you realize that it's not just the farmland. If

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Speaker 4: they want to come in and contaminate American farms, they

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Speaker 4: don't have to go to Mark Benjamins, they don't have

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Speaker 4: to go to Alex Clark's. They go right to their

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Speaker 4: own farm and put that pathogen on the on the

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Speaker 4: crops that they're growing themselves, and.

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Speaker 3: Then get them airborne.

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Speaker 2: They know that.

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Speaker 4: And the other thing, John is you know these pieces

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Speaker 4: of farm land that the Chinese buying up are also

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Speaker 4: close to strategic military operations for the United States military.

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Speaker 4: So that's another concerning aspect of those farmland being gobbled up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Listen, the Chinese are playing four dimensional chests in

833
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Speaker 1: hopes that they will defeat us without ever having to

834
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Speaker 1: fire or shot, and I think tonight we got to

835
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Speaker 1: see just how sophisticated their game plan is and how

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Speaker 1: vulnerable are The other thing that struck me tonight was

837
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Speaker 1: listening to those interviews with the farmers.

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Speaker 2: We really are.

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Speaker 1: More vulnerable to a famine, more vulnerable to a sudden

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Speaker 1: crop disaster than I appreciated until I heard from those farmers.

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Speaker 1: Those are pretty poignant stories.

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Speaker 3: They really.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there was a time in America when we

844
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Speaker 4: had long term storage of grain, for example. But the

845
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Speaker 4: way the supply chain works now you know Kellogg's or

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Speaker 4: whoever I use, Kelloggs or a Michigan company, they bring

847
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Speaker 4: the grain in, they push it out.

848
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Speaker 3: They bring the grain and they pushed out. Then they

849
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Speaker 3: wait for Argentina to deliver.

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Speaker 4: Their products because those two seasons rotate. So you've got

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Speaker 4: the American crop, then you've got the South American crop,

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Speaker 4: then you've got the Asian crop. And so the way

853
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Speaker 4: the supply chains work, okay, everything's great, right until there's

854
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Speaker 4: a miss in the supply chain. When America gets shut

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Speaker 4: down in Illinois where Mary Miller's from, or you have

856
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Speaker 4: a problem in Michigan or Iowa, you have a problem

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Speaker 4: in one of those places, and then it starts to steamroll.

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Speaker 4: The domino effect comes into place. Like Mark Benjamin mentioned,

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Speaker 4: you lose a couple of harvests, and he's told me

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Speaker 4: this for years. I've known Mark for a number of years.

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Speaker 3: We're two failed harvests away.

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Speaker 4: And like they also discussed and I talked about it's

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Speaker 4: America getting hit, but then it's Sub Saharan Africa, it's

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Speaker 4: Asia where they cannot.

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Speaker 3: Afford the food insecurity. They already have the ripple effect

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Speaker 3: across this planet. John is frightening.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we'll say something in America we've never seen, but

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Speaker 4: the rest of the world could suffer worse than first.

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Speaker 2: It is amazing.

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Speaker 1: And in the sophistication of how the Chinese have set

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Speaker 1: the table in case they want to call on this option,

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Speaker 1: it is so scary. M was pretty adamant today that

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Speaker 1: Congress has to do more. They have to get in

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Speaker 1: the game. I've been learning a lot about these scientists.

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00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: I've been going literally scientists by scientists, a thousand that

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00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: come from these hostile countries, and they're now being vetted

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Speaker 1: for the first time.

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Speaker 2: A lot of them get in through.

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Speaker 1: The back door, which is nih doesn't say we're giving

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Speaker 1: an award to China. They give it to an American vendor,

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Speaker 1: and then the American vendor subcontracts, and so it's even

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Speaker 1: hidden on the books. It takes two jumps to find

883
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Speaker 1: the Chinese trail. The Chinese are brilliant. They're working on

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Speaker 1: one now where they go to a famous hospital chain,

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Speaker 1: they make a donation, they get in good with them,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, subcontracts coming in and

887
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: they're doing all this work. We would never know unless

888
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: you could look two layers down. This is a sophisticated

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Speaker 1: operation on Beijing's part.

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Speaker 4: And let me say one thing about that. The same

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Speaker 4: thing is true in academia. When they come into the

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Speaker 4: University of Measane or Texas A and M, or the

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Speaker 4: University of Iowa, whatever the Landgran College is where they're

894
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Speaker 4: focusing on agriculture, they come in with big checks. All

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Speaker 4: these universities want the money because right now they're strapped

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Speaker 4: for cash, so, oh, easy money from China will take it.

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Speaker 4: We'll just kind of go with it and see what happens.

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Speaker 4: And it's leaving us unprotected in a perilous position because

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Speaker 4: they're in such need of the money. They're wanted to

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Speaker 4: look the other way. I think that's a problem, and

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Speaker 4: that is frightening.

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Speaker 3: In and of itself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the FBI agents I talked to for

904
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Speaker 1: these stories said, we don't have an achilles hea. We

905
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Speaker 1: have a wallet that is our weakness. China buys their

906
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: way in and then we have an addiction. It's an

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Speaker 1: amazing thing, Steve.

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Speaker 3: This was so much fun.

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Speaker 2: We're going to do this again next month.

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Speaker 1: We're going to keep this conversation going and to get

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Speaker 1: some cabinet secretaries, maybe an FBI director in here.

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Speaker 2: But we'll we team up again in another month.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed this thing, and thank you for coming

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Speaker 1: up with such a great idea.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, John.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of fun. What a great journalist, so

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Speaker 2: lucky to share the network question. All right, folks, that

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Speaker 2: is it person night.

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Speaker 1: We're going to head off to the amazing Grant Sinchwell

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow night and the men will be in the chair.

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Speaker 2: I'll be underwell to see you then.