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Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Barth. I'm in Lazar Lazar, Well, everybody

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Speaker 1: nailed it, joined us always buying our Barak David match.

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Speaker 1: Here is Evan Lazar and Alex barks. The Bills are

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Speaker 1: a Globetrotter office. There comes his feel about the Bills

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Speaker 1: and how they're operrated, people getting off. Come on, just

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Speaker 1: do it. The Bills aren't perfect. There, I said it.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Uh? The Globetrotter offense came

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Speaker 1: to Foxborough last Thursday night, didn't let me tell you

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Speaker 1: they they put on the show for a little bit there, Alex.

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Speaker 1: They did? Did they turn on your mic? It's on?

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Speaker 1: Did they twenty four points the show? Third lowest score

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Speaker 1: total for them of the season. I think they put

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Speaker 1: the offense in the garage and like the third quarter,

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Speaker 1: but that that was a TCOB operation. We're gonna hit

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Speaker 1: it was there you go, that's a compliment for the Bills,

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Speaker 1: I suppose. So we'll get to We'll get to the

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Speaker 1: defense in a second. But I was just telling Alex

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Speaker 1: before we hit record here that I feel like for

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Speaker 1: the last two days I have not actually talked any

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Speaker 1: football and you know me, like, that's kind of driving

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Speaker 1: me nuts a little bit. I feel like everything that

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Speaker 1: we've talked about, and understandably because you tell me this

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Speaker 1: sometimes because I get so lost into in the film

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and you always say to me,

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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes the bigger picture is what's what the

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Speaker 1: story is? Right? Like the forest is the story this time,

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Speaker 1: not the trees, right. And there's definitely that element to it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure a lot of the things that we're

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Speaker 1: going to say over the next hour or so are

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Speaker 1: going to be spun forward to what this means and

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Speaker 1: what the next steps are and things like that, certainly,

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Speaker 1: but I do want to pull it back a little

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Speaker 1: night and talk about some of the things that are

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Speaker 1: going on with this football team from a real x's

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Speaker 1: nose execution stand based on standpoint, because I don't think

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Speaker 1: we're doing enough of that right now. Everything is, oh,

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Speaker 1: what about Bill O'Brien, what about Nick Kayley? What about

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Speaker 1: you know, the next guy that's going to come in

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Speaker 1: and run the offense? So I think that that's important.

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Speaker 1: So I want obviously, offense is where we got to start,

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Speaker 1: so I would just pile onto the not pile onto that.

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Speaker 1: But I think the Bills game is the perfect summation

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Speaker 1: of where this team is at right now. Good and Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I think break, we can almost do do. It's convenient,

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Speaker 1: we can almost do both at once in terms of

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Speaker 1: we can talk about the Bills game and the big

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Speaker 1: picture because there's a ton of overlap, a lot of

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Speaker 1: the you know, if you were to boil down the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two Patriots to this point to one game, right,

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Speaker 1: it really is that game. It really is that Bills

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Speaker 1: game that was as indicative of what the identity of

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Speaker 1: this team has been more than maybe any other game

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Speaker 1: this year. Yeah. Absolutely, And starting with the the offense,

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Speaker 1: I want to start with the quarterback. I really want

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Speaker 1: to talk about all elements the offense, though. I want

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Speaker 1: to start with the quarterback though, because that's where we

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Speaker 1: so often start with this. And there's been a couple

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Speaker 1: of things coming out of this game that I think

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Speaker 1: are important to touch on with Mac Jones. Obviously, the

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Speaker 1: play calling and I don't want to call it an outburst,

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Speaker 1: his frustration right on the sideline. Was it a big

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Speaker 1: topic after the game and when I went back and

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Speaker 1: watched the film, it did really take them until the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter to actually open up the passing offense a

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Speaker 1: little bit. And we're gonna get to some of the

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Speaker 1: reasons on the offensive line that I think certainly contributed

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Speaker 1: to the game plan and what their strategy was. But

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Speaker 1: I think the most frustrating thing about the game plan

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Speaker 1: to me was that they designed a game plan essentially

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Speaker 1: to pick up yak right right. That was the whole

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Speaker 1: idea which we had talked about, right right. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get the ball into our playmaker's hands. We're not gonna

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Speaker 1: make Mac Jones, you know, hold the football in the

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Speaker 1: pocket because we don't have a pocket, right, and we're

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Speaker 1: actually think that that's a sound plan. The Bills have

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Speaker 1: this season. They are a defense that's very good at

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Speaker 1: taking away big plays. So instead of trying to sit

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Speaker 1: on the surface, I think I understand where where they

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Speaker 1: didn't feature their best YAK players, right, Johnny Smith played

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Speaker 1: but I want to establish this. Yeah, the concept was good, right.

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Speaker 1: The plan to execute the concept like plan to me

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Speaker 1: is the actual game plan the XS and os. I

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Speaker 1: just want to reframe this argument because I'm gonna lose

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Speaker 1: it because I I use the word plan differently. Can

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Speaker 1: we frame it this way? Yes, the concept was yak. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the plan as to how to execute the concept, which

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Speaker 1: So they don't use Jonas Smith pretty much at all.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think him and Kendrick Bourne combined for

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Speaker 1: those are your best YAK guys, like those are the

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Speaker 1: best players that you have in your offense with the

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Speaker 1: to add to that layer, they clearly knew that they

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Speaker 1: needed an explosive yak guy because they made Marcus Jones

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Speaker 1: that was the whole plan was predicated on hitting a

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Speaker 1: and it worked and then there was nothing else after that. Now,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to Mac, I think so much of

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Speaker 1: what you're seeing from him is that he is having

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Speaker 1: his strengths as a passer and lightly the play that

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Speaker 1: let me start here. So we talk about this sometimes

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Speaker 1: what I would call great passing traits. Yes, he's more

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Speaker 1: those little pocket manipulation type of plays. The play that

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Speaker 1: mac Jones is not going to make is the past

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Speaker 1: that he tried to hit Hunter Henry on that Jordan

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Speaker 1: and he's got to throw the ball across his body

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Speaker 1: and the football doesn't beat the safety to the point

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Speaker 1: of attack. Contrary to populably, if you don't need to

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Speaker 1: make that throw to play quarterback in the NFL, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you do. I think there are people

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Speaker 1: think throw that out. So the things that he is

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry Dolphins fans, but it's just similar to Dolphins

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Speaker 1: me more than Bill's fans. Do they really? Do Dolphins

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Speaker 1: fans feel about you the way Bills fans feel about Yes,

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Speaker 1: But I have to go back to it because I

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Speaker 1: I do. TWA's best attributes as a quarterback our accuracy, anticipation,

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Speaker 1: and I'm manipulation, right, like these are what he's good at,

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Speaker 1: and he's he's the definite and it's it's an Alabama thing.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurt. I would put Jalen Hurts in that in

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Speaker 1: that category as well, because Nick Saban it's he's from

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Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick tree. He doesn't want turnovers. That's the

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Speaker 1: one thing, right. We can say the same thing about

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young And I'm sure whoever's next. Nick Saban's looking

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Speaker 1: for pastors, not throwers, and that like all these guys

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Speaker 1: have that in common. It's not a coincidence. When Mac

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Speaker 1: Jones looks bad in a game like he did on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, it's because the Patriots are trying to make

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Speaker 1: him into a thrower. And I'm not saying that they're

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Speaker 1: doing it on purpose, but their roster construction has let

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Speaker 1: us here. Well, it's weird because Dave Dave prioritized. I mean,

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Speaker 1: tom Brady's a passer, he's not a thrower. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: would even say the guys they brought in since Jimmy

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Speaker 1: thrower was probably Ryan Mallett. Yeah, all these other guys

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Speaker 1: like they're trying to change it. It's not like Mac

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Speaker 1: Jones is anything new to them. No. So if you

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Speaker 1: Allen like that the touchdown throw Josh Allen made to

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Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis, Right, Josh Allen's the other extreme. That right,

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Speaker 1: that's the other extreme. That's the thrower. That's the athlete.

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Speaker 1: That's the second reaction or extended play playmaker, play creator

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Speaker 1: think the part that you see in this Bill's game

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Speaker 1: when you watch it on film is when mac is

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Speaker 1: just asked to hit the top of the drop, read

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Speaker 1: You can do it. Yeah, it's still there. And this

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Speaker 1: too much. And that's when he's asked to do the

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Speaker 1: other thing is when it really snows snowballs on him

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Speaker 1: and then as the game progresses like that. It was

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Speaker 1: one of the first past plays of the game. I

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Speaker 1: think the first past play of the game was a

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Speaker 1: My brain's going to numb. They ran like a double under,

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Speaker 1: like a double slant concept, right, and Jacobe Myers think

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Speaker 1: it wide open to Davante Parker on the second one

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Speaker 1: You know, Hunter Henry, I can't tell you how many

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Speaker 1: times he's isolated on an end in this game. Right.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's Hunter Henry against fifty and fifty five

428
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 1: on Buffalo. I can't. I can never keep straight which

429
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: one is which in terms of player names. But he's

430
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: just isolated on those guys all the time. And I'm

431
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Speaker 1: just thinking of myself while watching this, like how many

432
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Speaker 1: times do we have to see Hunter Henry fifty five

433
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Speaker 1: bash him fifties or so? Yes, how many times do

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Speaker 1: we have to watch Hunter Henry blow this block before

435
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: we don't ask him to block Greg Rousseau one on

436
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: one anymore more? Apparently that's just And that goes to coaching, right, Right,

437
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: it goes back to my point of it doesn't matter.

438
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: I like no players perfect. And I know I just

439
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: said there was one perfect quarterback. No no player in

440
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: the NFL's perfect. No player has ever been perfect. Right.

441
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: You can have a really good player, but if you

442
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: ask him to do something that's not in his toolbox,

443
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: he's not gonna look like a good player. Right, And

444
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: it goes back to that where Hunter Henry I think

445
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: is a good tight end. I still believe he's a

446
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: good tight end. I you know, I said it when

447
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Speaker 1: they signed him. He's not a blocker, Like he's not

448
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: Lee Smith, he was the guy's named Michael Williams. Right,

449
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: Remember all those years ago from Alabama's a convertitacle big

450
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: Mike Williams. He's not Mercedes Lewis or Mercedes Lewis back

451
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: in the day could go up and get the football.

452
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: It's but he's not Lee Smith. He's not like a Williams.

453
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Speaker 1: That's not who he is. He's still a very good

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Speaker 1: tight end, but he's not a blocker. Some tight ends

455
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: or receivers some are blockers. And even within the receiver

456
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: he breaks down, right, it's all prototypes. So they're essentially

457
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Speaker 1: playing him out of position. Yeah, and that's where, like

458
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: you said, you get into you're just watching it and

459
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: it's clear he can't do it. He's it's never it's

460
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: not like he's something he ever did. And it's like,

461
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: why is he all of a sudden falling off? Right?

462
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: You kind of you see it and it's like, oh,

463
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: this makes sense, this is what my priors suggest what happen,

464
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: and yet they still keep trying it. Yeah. You know

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Speaker 1: there's that play that Kevin Harris handoff where he runs

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Speaker 1: into Hunter Henry's back because Hunter Henry gets dented into

467
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: the backfield on the run and he's blocking an end

468
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: there one on one and they're trying to run these

469
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Speaker 1: duo concepts where they just double team on the interior.

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Speaker 1: But when they double team on duo on the interior,

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00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: it leaves a tackle, and it leaves a tight end,

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Speaker 1: usually one on one on what is essentially the outside

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Speaker 1: of the play right, because the player is trying to

474
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Speaker 1: hit inside. So you're hoping that at least they can

475
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: they can stalemate enough that it's not going to blow

476
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: up the play, And right now there's instances where it's

477
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Speaker 1: blowing up the play. That Kevin Harris play is a

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Speaker 1: good example. And they come back later in the game

479
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Speaker 1: and they try to run play action duo and Hunter

480
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: Henry gets beat in pass in pass protection, he's basically

481
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Speaker 1: being asked to block like he's an offensive tackle in

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Speaker 1: a pass set right and stay in front of Rousseau.

483
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: And he gets beat and Jacoby's open on the crosser.

484
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: Max sees it and uh, you know, he throws it

485
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: just a little bit too far in front of Jacoby

486
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Speaker 1: because he's under pressure. So there's a lot of those

487
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Speaker 1: types of blocking assignments that I see where if Hunter

488
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: Henry is being asked to block safety's off ball linebackers,

489
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Speaker 1: corners like I think he can hold up when you

490
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Speaker 1: ask him to block a two hundred and sixty pound

491
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Speaker 1: defensive end or outside you know, rush linebacker, that's a

492
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Speaker 1: whole totally different ball game. It's a really different story.

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Speaker 1: So those are some of the things that really stood out,

494
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Speaker 1: I think on the tape with the offense and you know,

495
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: what was going on in terms of execution, some of

496
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: the scheme stuff. You know, Kendrick Bourne talking about third down.

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Speaker 1: There were a couple plays for sure where they're just

498
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: like running right into leverage right, Like it's just like,

499
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: oh boy, like you know, this play is doomed from

500
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: the start type of thing, you know, But I think

501
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: you still watch it, and to go back to the

502
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: point I was, you know, driving home about Mac. You

503
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: still watch it and you're like, is anybody really open? Right?

504
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: You don't want to do And it's not so much

505
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: just about that, it's just like is anybody really open?

506
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: Like if you you look at the tape and you're like,

507
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: all right, Like, you know, Kendrick Bourne has a step

508
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: on his guy right, a step, but by the time

509
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: the ball gets there, there's gonna be contact through the

510
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: catch point at that point, right, because the guy's gonna

511
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: close on the football and there's gonna it's gonna end

512
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: up being a bang bang play either way. And I

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00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: just I watched this and I didn't necessarily think I

514
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: came back to the whole receiver separation thing again to

515
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: a degree as well, where I was just like, I

516
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: don't really think anybody's all that open on some of

517
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: these plays, even some of the plays that didn't stand

518
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: a chance because of pressure. If you just watch the

519
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: routes you know, developed down the field anyways, and you

520
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: ignore the pressure in the pocket and you say, well,

521
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: if it was blocked up, would they have a chance

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00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 1: to get the ball down in the field and make

523
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: the line to gain I still question it. You know,

524
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: I still don't know. You know, everybody looks at you know,

525
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: Jacobe Meyers on third down and mac threw a high

526
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: pass to him on the sideline. He's a yard short

527
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: of the sticks anyways, and you know, I don't know. It.

528
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Speaker 1: Just there was a lot of big picture stuff with

529
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: the offense where it's like, you know, they still don't

530
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: have those transcendent playmakers on this offense. And there's execution

531
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: assignment level stuff as well that gave you a lot

532
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: of worries out of this game, but all of it, ultimately,

533
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: I think comes back to player utilization and just making

534
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: sure that Hunter Henry's not one on one against Greg

535
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: Rousseau that's going to blow up the play. And you know,

536
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: when they do five man pass protect they gotta make

537
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: sure it's in manageable down like they can't. They can't

538
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: five man pass protecting third and ten, right, they just

539
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: don't have the horses at tackle right now. It's the

540
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: pocket collapses every single time, and uh, you know, these

541
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: are the types of things that I get frustrating about

542
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: watching it and watching this game in particular. But this

543
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: all goes back, I think to a lot of things

544
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: that we saw against the Jets, the Colts, you know,

545
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: and some of the other bad offensive games that they've

546
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: had this year. Yeah, like I said earlier, this was

547
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: if you kind of boil it down to what have

548
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: been the strengths and the weaknesses of the twenty twenty

549
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: two Patriots. You saw it all in that in that

550
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo game. That was what this team is through and through. Yeah, okay,

551
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: so that's the offense for thirty minutes, that's the offensive

552
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: speel Defensefully, this is where I'm at with the defense.

553
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: Is this good or bad? Because the good that I'm

554
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: gonna say to you is that this was as kitchen

555
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: sinky of a game plan of and of a play

556
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: call for Steve Belichick is I've seen the Patriots having

557
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: in some years. I mean, they're running everything like they

558
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: threw the whole thing at Josh Allen and they're running

559
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: you know, two invert three cloud sim pressure, like literally

560
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: all of the buzzwords that I can throw at you

561
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: right now of what we all love on film Twitter,

562
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, look at this, Like look at

563
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: this cool structure, look at this cool rotation. They're running

564
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: one cross, They're they're running creepers, they're running this, they're

565
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: running that like they ran it all right. So, on

566
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: one hand, I think that the fact that they feel

567
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: comfortable that they can execute that good enough to call

568
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: it in the game and have that rolodex of They

569
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: called as many coverages in this game as I think

570
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: I've ever seen them call zero, one, two, three, two,

571
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: zone two, men, cover six, like all of it. Yeah,

572
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: And I think that dad does speak to the fact

573
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: that they feel really good about where they're at in

574
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: terms of IQ chemistry. You know, like all that kind

575
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: of stuff. So that's the good, dude, Right, here's the bad. Well,

576
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: let me just dad, they did that all if I

577
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: can find the playtime percentages, because the big thing was

578
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: with the rookies, right, Yeah, they did that all with

579
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: Jack Jones playing seventy six percent of the defensive snaps

580
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: and Marcus Jones playing forty five percent of the defensive snaps.

581
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: I think that's big. They trust those two and that's

582
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: they don't always stress rookies. They don't always stress rookies.

583
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: So those two guys are playing, they're playing a lot,

584
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: and for them to play in a game plan like that,

585
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: I think is encouraging. Here's the bad. Yep, it still

586
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: didn't work. It still didn't like But what do you

587
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: mean by it didn't work? I mean that do you

588
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: mean they lost the game? I mean it didn't work. No,

589
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean that the Bills often still controlled play. But

590
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: so what I pushed back on that two things twenty

591
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: four points is that we both said this, don't say,

592
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: but the problem is saying twenty four points is that

593
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: in the second half, the Bills could have scored thirty

594
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: five in this game that they really wanted both said

595
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: this last week the Bills were gonna get theirs. The Bills,

596
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna get there. So they got there. They had

597
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: a sequence of stops in the first half at the

598
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: end of the first so this is that's the positive,

599
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: right and that and that's where a lot of these

600
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: rotations came into play. I thought watching the UCHA strip sack,

601
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: they ran what a variation of three cloud, which is

602
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: it's cover three, but they kind of it's tilted right

603
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: to one side of the field. And what they actually did,

604
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: which I thought was really interesting. It was long, it

605
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: was third and long, so you kind of have to

606
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 1: have the down and distance to dial something like that up.

607
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: But what was really cool about it was is they

608
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: put Jabriel Peppers over Stefon Diggs in press coverage and

609
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: they just had Jabril Peppers jam the crap at a

610
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs off the line of scrimmage, and then Jonathan

611
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: Jones was the second layer, right, so Jabriel Peppers jammed

612
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: them and then Jones caught him right once he came

613
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: off the release. So instead of just playing pressed straight

614
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: up one on one with Jonathan Jones, they had an

615
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: underneath defender jam them and then they had Jonathan Jones

616
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: play him up the field and Josh Allen just couldn't

617
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: even look at Stefon Diggs right, like, he just completely

618
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: took him off of Stefon Diggs from the jump and

619
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: it made him go someplace else and you get the

620
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: pressure and you get the strip stack and stuff like that.

621
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Speaker 1: So some of those downs that they played, they played

622
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: a great down of one cross where they cut off

623
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: the crossing ground coming across the field and fall off

624
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: it and the other guy replaces the rat in the

625
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: middle of the field and they kind of exchange there

626
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: right there assignments and that forced one of the punts

627
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: that run on third down. So some of their third

628
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: down coverage ended up at being really good in this

629
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: game on tape. But yeah, I still just didn't feel

630
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: like the Bill's offense was sweating it at all. I

631
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: even some of those earlier drives, like it was penalties, right,

632
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: not necessarily structure, It was penalties that advanced the Bills

633
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: drives as penalty is. There's a couple of really great plays,

634
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: the ones that killed downs in the red zone. That's

635
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: those are the ones that So here's kind of how

636
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: I walk away from from this game. Looking at the

637
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: Patriots defense, Yeah, the big picture, I was very encouraged.

638
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: There were individual lapses that ultimately killed them. Yeah, you know,

639
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: quitting on that third down that Josh Allen ultimately throws

640
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: the ball the game bill that he's half the team

641
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: quits on that. But that's not a talent issue, that's

642
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: not that's just they made a stupid play. Well that's

643
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: sort of what I'm driving at with this presenting it

644
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: this way. Is is it a bad sign? And I

645
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: hate to spin it negative, but is it a bad

646
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: sign that they threw the kitchen sink at Josh Allen

647
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: and he's still I wouldn't say they're his way with them,

648
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: but he's still. You know, it was in control of

649
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: the game, I would say, I mean, you're two plays away.

650
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: You don't if they don't quit on that one, right

651
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: that takes seven points off the board. And Kyle Dugger

652
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: dropping an interception of possible pick six. Yeah, like they're

653
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: two plays away from us talking about just what an

654
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: unbelievable effort it was so for them to be that close.

655
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just because I'm looking at it in comparison

656
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: to the offense, and the offense look so far away.

657
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying not to do, is is I'm

658
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: trying to look at them in vacuums right separately from

659
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: each other, because I think you have to. Here's what

660
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: that and this goes back to an argument we had

661
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: last week, But that kind of defensive effort should at

662
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: least have in most games. That's that's what I took

663
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: away from it. And that's really all you can ask for, right, Yeah,

664
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: is like if the offense was fixed, then that's a

665
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: pretty close competitive game and the defense we're not walking

666
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: away giving. You know, that game plan's not going in

667
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. But hey, they did their they

668
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: did their part right. I would argue the defense was

669
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: two bad plays away from doing their part. And it

670
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: wasn't because they didn't have the players. It wasn't because

671
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: the coaching mess. It was just bonehead plays. And again

672
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: that's been this team all year on both sides of

673
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: the ball. Just bonehead plays end up being the difference.

674
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: It's not, you know, especially on that side of the ball.

675
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, you'd like to see them prevent that Gabriel

676
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: Davis touchdown. I think that was easily preventable. You'd like

677
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: to see Kyle Ducker hold onto that interception. I was

678
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: screaming that all week. If he throws one between the numbers,

679
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: which he's gonna do, you have to catch it. Yeah.

680
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: It was brutal too, because I think Jack Jones actually

681
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: knocked it out him. Yeah, yeah, I mean that was

682
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: maybe it was one of those when like the ball

683
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: goes up for a rebound in basketball and the teammates

684
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: go for it and it deflects off both of them,

685
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: and at a ball it was maybe more of an

686
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: issue of not calling for the ball more so than

687
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: just to pure drop, which fine, but you take those

688
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: two plays out, I think they pretty much did as

689
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: well as you can expect them to. Again, the bills

690
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: are the bills of a good offense, the Globetrotter offense. Right,

691
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: did you were you expecting them to hold them at

692
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: ten points? No? I think twenty. I know you're gonna

693
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: say they kind of gave up at the end, but

694
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: I think twenty four points under the circumstances. You have

695
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: to walk away happy with that defensive effort. You don't

696
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: need to say that it's, you know, the best defense

697
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: of all time. We don't need to put it into

698
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame next to Bill's game plan for

699
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas back in the Super Bowl all those years ago.

700
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: But that's a perfectly acceptable defensive effort. If the defense

701
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 1: can play that way, they're gonna be in just about

702
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: they should be in pretty much every game. Yeah, it

703
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: killed me too on the Gabriel Davis touchdown because their

704
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: initial coverage, because it's an extended into like second reaction

705
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: style play, their initial coverage was awesome. That it was

706
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: an instance of mac Wilson was holding a quarterback near

707
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: the sideline, didn't want to get called for roughing. Yeah,

708
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: he said after the game he should have pushed him

709
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: out of bounds, right, And I guess that that's probably

710
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: the coaching point there would be to you know, really

711
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: run him into the sideline completely. But you know, I

712
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: mean that play really really killed them because you know,

713
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: the Bills go three for three in the red zone,

714
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: and Michael Lombardi talks about those third down red zone

715
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: plays a four point plays like all that's his thing.

716
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: You know, that's a big difference in the game, you know,

717
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: Yeah it was it thirteen seven instead of seventeen seven

718
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: is a huge, huge difference in a game like that,

719
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: So I the other thing, I'll just wrap it up

720
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: on the defense on this and then we can take

721
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: some of these calls. I thought it was this game

722
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: planned to me when they maybe they don't need it

723
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: against Arizona, but when they play Vegas and Since and

724
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: Miami and Buffalo again, like, there's no reason that this

725
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: level of sophistication should stay. Yeah, like there's no reason

726
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: to go back to being you know, we're just gonna

727
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: play man right, Like, there's no reason for that. Like

728
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: this this defense could execute at this level of sophistication.

729
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: I think it needs to be this sophisticated because they

730
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: don't have the horses to just man up against number

731
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: one receivers and you know, really take those guys or

732
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: mitigate those guys damage. So you have to be exotic.

733
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: I think if you're the Patriots, and I think that

734
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: they showed against the Bills that they can do that,

735
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: and um last thing that the whole like, oh, like

736
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: you know this, this is what they had a year

737
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: and planned for this, and this is what they can

738
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: I thought that they came up with a lot. Honestly

739
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: in this game they had. They came out in six

740
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: dB dime, right, where they have six dbs on the field,

741
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: three safety, six dB uh zone invert Like the first

742
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: play of the game, uh, is a pass play and

743
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones goes from outside corner to half field safety

744
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: and cover two and they rotate the whole thing first,

745
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: very first play of the game. Like, that's not a

746
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: play that you run, you know in training camp, right, Like,

747
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: that's not that's not a base play, that's a game

748
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: planned that's a that's a real kind of higher level

749
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: type of things. So I do think that they threw

750
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: a lot of scheme at Josh Allen in this game,

751
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: and I think that's why they were able to get

752
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: him to punt a couple of times and had the turnovers.

753
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: So uh, some good things from there too. All right,

754
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: let's get to some of the calls. Uh, Sean, thanks

755
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: for hanging on. Sorry, we had you on hold so long.

756
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: How are you doing, Sean? All right, let me just

757
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: take out speaker phone here. Oh, sorry about that. Yeah,

758
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: you know, Paul, earlier onto you was talking about the

759
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: issue with the offense being somewhat at faults of everyone,

760
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: mentioning the problems with hiring an offensive coordinator who's not

761
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: a experience and offense and that was kind of doomed

762
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: to start, and he said that affected Mac Jones and

763
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: the offense before they ever took the field, like they

764
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: were not on board. And I could see that as

765
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: well in the type of production or or use of

766
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: some of the players, like Kendrick Bourne in the first game,

767
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: he had two snaps, one of them was a catch,

768
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: but they didn't use him. And he was a feature

769
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: part of the offense the previous year. Him and Henry

770
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: and Myers, right, and those guys are vocally against what

771
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: was going on. So you could see the divide in

772
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: the locker room about that. And then they switched obviously

773
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: when Mac got hurt and went back scrapped that whole

774
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: that whole plan. What I'm wondering is like, Okay, if

775
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: they start next year with a new plan, maybe they

776
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: can involve mac Jones in those conversations before they sit

777
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: down with what they're going to do. What's going to

778
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: work for you? How can we move forward? What are

779
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: we going to do in twenty twenty three pits that's

780
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: going to be of use and against Arizona? Okay, what

781
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: can we do now that you have limitations in terms

782
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: of what we're going to do offensively because we have

783
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: the reins on you and we're not we're not going

784
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: to allow you to make mistakes. But how how can

785
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: we win against the Cardinals with this hybrid type of system?

786
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: John it? So I think, Sean, well, you're driving at

787
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong. Is do we feel

788
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: like there's a lack of buy in to what they're doing?

789
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 1: And I think that's a fair question coming off this game?

790
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: And thanks for the call, Shan. We appreciate it buying

791
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: because I usually I don't get involved in this this

792
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: like drama stuff, right like this, like let's play like

793
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, read the mind or armshair psychologists and get

794
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: inside the players heads. But they they opened up a

795
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: little bit after that game, especially Kendrick Bourne. I know,

796
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: but I even think that some of the short answers

797
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: that Nelson Agloor gave were telling. Even though they were short,

798
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: they were telling. So there's definitely palpable frustration in the room.

799
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: And I do you feel like there's a lack of

800
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: buy in? And is that impacting the play? The fact

801
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: that these guys are like why the heck are we

802
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: doing this? Right? Like? This isn't this isn't right, like

803
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: this isn't how I was coaching in the past or

804
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: all those types of things. I don't know that it

805
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: used the phrase buying and this is me getting him

806
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: semantics again. To me, a lack of buying is guys

807
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: who quit, And honestly, with the comments after that game

808
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: and during the game in mac Jones case, showed me

809
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: was that these guys haven't quit. They still care a

810
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: whole lot about you know, they still take pride in

811
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: what they're doing, and they still care a whole lot

812
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: about the outcomes and this team and trying to win

813
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: and all of that. I'd say it's more just frustration

814
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: because they feel like they're not being put in situations

815
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: where they can go and impact that right where they

816
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: can go and put the where they're not being put

817
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: in situations to get to that goal of winning games. So,

818
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, the word when I hear buy in, I

819
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: think like the Chicken and Beer Red Sox, right, like

820
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: guy teams that have just they've tuned it out, they've quit.

821
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: The Celtics team last year, Kyrie, right, guys who are

822
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: just you know, yeah, I don't think this team is

823
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: a buying issue. I think these guys still care a lot,

824
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: and even a guy like nel S Nagler was in

825
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: a contract year, I still think he's a ton of

826
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: credit to them because it would be really easy to

827
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: check out under these circumstances. I think it's I would

828
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: more use the term frustration. Yeah, so I agree with

829
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: you for the most part. I don't think that there's

830
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: much lack of buy and I think I don't want

831
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: to name names, um, but I do think that there

832
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: are certain players that I sometimes question effort with on

833
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: a play to play basis. That's but there. I don't

834
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: know if it's necessarily coaching driven, right, I just I

835
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: think there are certain players that sometimes I look at

836
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: and going through the motions. I think there are certain

837
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: players that fit that as well. But if we're just

838
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: talking about the guys we heard from after the game, Mac, KB,

839
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: Nelson AG, I wouldn't put any of those guys are

840
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: still given the effort, I wouldn't put those guys in

841
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: that category. More other positions, And we're going to get

842
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: to the Cardinals in a second too and answer that

843
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: question a little bit as well. I also want to

844
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: go to bat for KB for a second. Please do

845
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: because first of all, this is a guy that had

846
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: a very very promising year last year where a lot

847
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: of people were hoping he was going to take even

848
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: another step of being closer to a thousand yard receiver

849
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: in this offense ESPN yesterday. I know these the analytics

850
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: pulls driving nuts, Alex, but this this support I can.

851
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: I can swallow it a little bit easier if it

852
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: helps my narrative. So what do you guys they did

853
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: a poll of like who was who do your analytics say?

854
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: Is like an analytics darling? That's like kind of an

855
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: under the radar player, And for two years in a row,

856
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne's name has come up as not only one

857
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: of the best bargained contracts in the NFL, but also

858
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: just one of the more under the radar, under the

859
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: under rated players in the league at the receiver position.

860
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: So for a guy like KB, he knows he's capable

861
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: of playing better football than this. And the reason why

862
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to bad for him is because I can

863
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: already foresee it that he's either a healthy scratch on

864
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: Monday night or he just doesn't play. It's that two

865
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: snap thing again, like the Miami game, right, And that

866
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: to me is absolutely, bs Apps literally bs that Kendrick

867
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: Bourne had the confidence in himself to say what everybody

868
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: else in the room, media, players, everybody else in the room,

869
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: coaches was thinking to the media and said said it

870
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: how it is and was honest and upfront about what

871
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: it's going on with this offense. And he if he

872
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: gets benched for that, I think that's a big, big issue, Yeah,

873
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: because to me, that is you talk about buying. I

874
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: think to me, that is when things can really start

875
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: to unravel on this team, is if guys are frustrated

876
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: and are want to be part of the solution here,

877
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: like Kendrick I think does I really? I think he

878
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: would love And when we talked to him last year,

879
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: I remember the first press conference we had with him,

880
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: I was like, this guy's gonna be such a hit here. Yeah.

881
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: I think he hit him as much or more than

882
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: anybody else. Loved the idea of being the group after

883
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and like continuing that Patriot Brandy. That was

884
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: something he talked about when he first got here, Like,

885
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, I saw what they were last year, you know,

886
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: first year at out Tom and I want to get

887
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: them back to where the Patriots should be. Guy like

888
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: Kendrick Moore. And I'll admit when they first signed him,

889
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: I didn't love the signing. I think I thought he

890
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: was maybe a little redundant some of the pieces they

891
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: have another guy where I don't know that they used

892
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: him up to his skill sets in San Francisco, I

893
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: don't know that he was put in the best situation

894
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: to succeed last year. Here absolutely was and a guy

895
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: who I mean, he brings that locker room together. You

896
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: sees having all these parties in the off season. He's

897
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: a great relationship with Robert Kraft, that guy. Guy like that.

898
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: He can play for my team any day. I'll find

899
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: a spot for him. And to your analytics thing, I'll

900
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: give you actual numbers beyond the analytics that prove your point.

901
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: It took them a couple of weeks for them in

902
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: the numbers. It took them a couple of weeks for

903
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: them to ease him in last year, right born, Yes,

904
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: But once they did, there was a stretch from we'll

905
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: call it Week three, which was his first start of

906
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: the year, to week twelve, and then in week thirteen

907
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: he got COVID, remember, and he didn't play against the Bills.

908
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, that ten weeks stretching between, which is not

909
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: an insignificant sample size that ten week stretching between. Extrapolate

910
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: those numbers out over a full season. Sixty six catches

911
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: a fat just over a thousand yards, eight touchdowns, and

912
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: then we can throw in for good measure, eight carries

913
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: one hundred five yards in another touchdown. He was a

914
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: thousand yard receiver for more than half the season last year.

915
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: There's no reason he should fall him falling off like

916
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: this is not a like he's that guy he's I

917
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: said before the year, I thought he was like a

918
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: lol number one receiver. I thought he was a guy

919
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: who was going to be another thousand yard eleven hundred

920
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: yard receiver in the SO offense. Yeah, I stand by

921
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: what I said at that time. I still think that

922
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: there was a world where that, you know, came to fruition,

923
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: and it still could in the future. I just look

924
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: at the situation that upened with Mac and Bailey's appy

925
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: against the Bears, and I'm not saying that it's still lingering,

926
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: but that had an impact on the locker room. The

927
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: way that the crowd was channing for Bailey, the way

928
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: that Mac came out of that game, and was effectively

929
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: benched after the interception. That had an impact on that

930
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: locker room. And I think benching Kendrick Bourne from for

931
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: coming out in the media and being honest when asked questions.

932
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: I you know, I asked him, you know, what's why

933
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: didn't you guys push the ball down the field more tonight?

934
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: And he said the offensive line was having trouble. Right

935
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: then somebody else asked him, do you feel like you

936
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: guys are being put in the best positions to succeed?

937
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: And he said, we need to scheme up better on

938
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: third down? Just being honest, like just being honest about

939
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: what's going on. And I think that that would have

940
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: a trickle down effect too. If they end up benching

941
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: him for that, I think the guys will take notice

942
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: of that. All right, Eldred, what's going on? Eldred? Hey? Good?

943
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: Hey Evan? I agree with on the situation with Matt No,

944
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I liked Matt now, but I wasn't getting

945
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: under the draft because I wanted justin fields too. I

946
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: got mad at Bill because he wouldn't move up to

947
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: get him, and I guess he thought if they both

948
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: failed down here, you'd probably get one or the other.

949
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: And because of the situation, and I thought that mc

950
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: daniels would have made Justin fields a whole lot better

951
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: than what he's what he's showing now that one year

952
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: with mc daniels, and if he did leave, then you

953
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 1: still got that evers of running and throwing, which Matt

954
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: didn't have. But since that, um, I agree with you too,

955
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, Like I said, he's ship come the office

956
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 1: society at first at all anyway, but since he's there,

957
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: he don't know how he used the players and KB.

958
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: I've been camp for KB two because I watched him

959
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: a little bit with San Francisco and I thought he

960
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: had he could do a little bit more impact with

961
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: us under the right situation. But like again, you got

962
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: the wrong coach member. Now he bitched Malcolm Butler in

963
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. You know that we could have won,

964
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: So it's a history of that, you know. And plus

965
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: you go back to Detroit, there's a lot of players

966
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: that wouldn't come come New England because he was here

967
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: and you know, and play there, so you know, they

968
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: mentioned it. So it's just I mean, it's just a

969
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: total mess. But this year, we just gotta take our

970
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: lumps a little bit harder, and hope it gets better

971
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: next year. That's what I'm looking for. Hope it gets

972
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: better next year. Go this year, I don't. I don't

973
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: expect to make the playoffs. I did expect making the

974
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: beginning of the year, and everybody was wishing it. I mean,

975
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: if you saw the first week, did this week, you

976
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: still can't hope to see these boys didn't play in

977
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs because I don't think they'll do any damage

978
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: and office can't move the can score. Yeah, you know, yeah,

979
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: geamed up. I hear you, Aldred. Thanks for the call.

980
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting conversation about you know, I

981
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: got I shared like the playoff picture on Sunday night

982
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: after the FC was done for the week, and a

983
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: lot of people are what's the point, you know, we

984
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: should be talking about draft picks, not about the stand

985
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: endings for the playoffs. And the irony of all of

986
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: this doom and gloom that's gone on this week is

987
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: that if the Patriots beat the Cardinals on Monday night

988
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: and the Jets lose to Buffalo, which is a very

989
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: real possibility, the Patriots would be in the playoffs going

990
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: into the week fifteen right. So as much as like

991
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 1: the a lot of the predictive models say the Patriots

992
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: have like a twenty five to fifteen to twenty five

993
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: percent chance of making the playoffs, you know, those things

994
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: that as much as the numbers guy that I am,

995
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: to a degree, those types of predictions swing drastically week

996
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: to week, right, Like if the Patriots all of a

997
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: sudden are in the driver's seat for the seven seed

998
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: out coming off of a week you know, this week

999
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: and this weekend, then all of a sudden they have

1000
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: a sixty percent chance to make that, you know what

1001
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Like these things can still, right, these things

1002
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: can really flip week to week. But I wanted to,

1003
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, kind of piggybout back off what Eldred said

1004
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: and my whole thing about you know, um, what's the

1005
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: point of making the playoffs or they're not gonna you know,

1006
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: Eldred said, they're not to do anything in the playoffs anyways.

1007
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: Are they gonna do anything in the draft? So that's

1008
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: my thing, right, is like the worst case scenario if

1009
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: they go six and eleven, that's a different conversation because

1010
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: they would probably be picking it like the back end

1011
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: of the top ten but at that point, you're in

1012
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: a real dark place, right Like, you're in a real

1013
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: dark place organizationally if you completely let go of the rope,

1014
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: and that would be what eight losses in a row

1015
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: to end the season, right Like, That's that's that's a

1016
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: place that I don't think that even people that want

1017
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: them to quote unquote tank really want them to go.

1018
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: So where you're looking at is picking like where they

1019
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: picked after the cam here, which is like fifteenth. Right,

1020
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: So the teams that just miss out on the wildcard

1021
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: I think are fifteen through eighteen, and the wildcard losers

1022
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: are nineteen through twenty four? Is I believe how it works?

1023
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: So is it worth it? Right now they're seventeenth in

1024
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: the draft order? I believe is it worth it to

1025
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: pick seventeenth and not have a playoff game or to

1026
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: pick nineteenth and have a playoff game? Right? Like? It

1027
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: just yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me why

1028
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: you'd want seventeen and no playoffs versus nineteen in playoffs.

1029
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: That's what I would tell people. They're not they're not

1030
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: picking in the top ten. They're not. I see people

1031
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: talking about, well, you could go up and get Will Anderson.

1032
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: You can't. Yeah, you can't. Sorry, you can't. You're not

1033
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: getting them. It's it's the difference of two or three picks.

1034
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: I looked at this the other day, having on the

1035
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: trade chart, right, I looked at so the picks I

1036
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: used for fifteen and nineteen, right, because that's kind of

1037
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: the way it's set up. There's gonna be teams anyway,

1038
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: fifteen and nineteen. You know what you're essentially arguing for

1039
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: if you're saying they shouldn't make the playoffs, like a

1040
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: fourth round pick, a fourth round pick, a mid fourth

1041
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: round pick. Yeah, you don't want to make the playoffs

1042
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: because it saves you a mid fourth round pick. Yeah,

1043
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: please making the playoffs. You all there because there's another

1044
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: thing here besides the draft, and maybe more pressing because

1045
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: they need an instant infusion of talent, and that's free agency. Right.

1046
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: You get to the playoffs, you retain that level of

1047
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: legitimacy of hey we're still building something here. Hey we're

1048
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: still we got this young quarterback, and you can you

1049
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: can be the player that puts it over the top.

1050
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 1: If you miss the playoffs, like you said, play to Dart,

1051
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: our players gonna want to come here. Yeah, you know,

1052
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: so are you willing to lose that? First of all,

1053
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: again the fourth round pick? Yeah, and then that standing

1054
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: at the negotiating table that hey, we're still the New

1055
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: England Patriots. You're gonna lose that all at the negotiating

1056
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose all that over four drafts for what

1057
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: three draft slots? Four draft slots when again you just

1058
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: move up it costs a fourth round pick to move

1059
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: up into that spot. Anyway, you just have to have

1060
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: that guy. Stop saying that this team shouldn't try to

1061
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Stop saying that this team should tank.

1062
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: We're so far beyond that it sounds you sound ridiculous.

1063
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: If that's your argument. I'm sorry, but you sound. Enjoy

1064
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: your fourth round pick. Enjoy your fourth round You sound

1065
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: ridiculous in particular because they are six and six, right,

1066
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: six and six around here is doomsday because we expect more, right, Okay,

1067
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: which is totally fair. I'm not telling people to not

1068
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: expect more or want more out of the football team.

1069
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: Totally fair. But they're not too intent. We're not we're

1070
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: not tanking for for you know, Bryce Younger, CJ. Straud

1071
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: right like that, that's not the position that they're in.

1072
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: So it is interesting so that I find that it's

1073
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: interesting that so many people and I get that you

1074
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: might not want the disappointment a wildcard weekend, but I

1075
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: would also just add was one last point to it,

1076
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: then you can go the last year the draw did

1077
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: not break their way, right, Buffalo is a bad matchup

1078
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: for them. It was the third time that year that

1079
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: they had to play Buffalo and Buffalo was gearing up

1080
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: for a super Bowl. Round didn't work out for Buffalo,

1081
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: thank god, no offense. But they they they were they

1082
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: were focused, like that team was laser focused on on

1083
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: going on a run, and you just really weren't there.

1084
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: You weren't at that level this year. If they're the

1085
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: seventh seed, then they're obviously gonna probably draw Kansas City

1086
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: or Buffalo, which is not going to be a great matchup.

1087
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: But let let's just say that they that they're able

1088
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: to muster up a couple of wins here, you know,

1089
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: if they play Baltimore or Tennessee or are you really

1090
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: like that, like all, they can't win that game? Do

1091
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 1: you think they can't beat Tennessee? How they can beat Tennessee?

1092
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: Do you think I think they can probably can they

1093
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: almost beat Baltimore here in Week three like that was

1094
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: a game? And who knows? I mean, Lamar Jackson's hurt.

1095
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: Like you run into a team and they're and I'm

1096
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: not saying that they're gonna go on a run. I'm

1097
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: just saying you never know you get to That's what

1098
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: were the two picks you used as the example right now?

1099
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: They're seventeenth draft order. If they lose wildcard weekend and

1100
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: then the seventh seed in the AFC and they lose

1101
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: wildcard weekend, then they're gonna pick like nineteenth or twenty. Okay,

1102
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: we use twenty, Well use twenty. Seventeenth pick overall last

1103
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 1: year was oh, guy, you're a huge fan of Evans.

1104
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson, guard from Boston College. Pick twenty a guard.

1105
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: So here's here's the seventeen to twenty. That's what you

1106
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: made out and need another guard? Zion Johnson, Traylan Burke's

1107
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: Trevor Penning, and then Kenny Pikett would be twenty. They

1108
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: could have used Trevor Penning, but I'm saying, like that's

1109
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: the dip, like that guy would have been good, all right,

1110
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: And then the next three picks are Trent mcduffey, Kuaywalker,

1111
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: kyer Elam and then Tyler Smith another tackle. Don't get

1112
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: me started on Quaywalker. But this is my point, Like,

1113
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: it's all, this is what you're bickering over. They thought

1114
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: Cole Strange would be better for this team than quay Walker.

1115
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: Kak Oh. He was on the board. They traded out, right,

1116
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: he was on board. I was the guy that was saying,

1117
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: pound for pound, Quaywalker was the best possible pick they

1118
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: could make, all right, The point being, this is what

1119
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: you're going to do. This, This is what you're bickering over,

1120
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: keeping a fourth round pick and losing your chips at

1121
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: the negotiating table. But sure, sure they should tank go

1122
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: for you, all right, Andrew Hoyer, what do you got? Andrew?

1123
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging on. Hey, it's all good guys. Loves

1124
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: the show, Thank you. Um No, I was actually just

1125
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: going to ask about obviously pretty depressing loss to Buffalo

1126
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: on you know, Thursday, that was pretty bad. But um

1127
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: I was just going to ask what you thought the

1128
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: future of the right tackle position was going to be.

1129
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: Obviously Isaiah Wynn is not that guy. And then also

1130
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: I was going to ask as well, if you I've

1131
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: heard a lot of chatter on you know, just random

1132
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, YouTube podcasts and things like that about Craft

1133
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: possibly issuing an ultimatum to Bill Belichick, and I just

1134
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: wanted to know what you guys thought about that. So

1135
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: thanks for you know, listening, guys. You guys have a

1136
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: good day, no problem, Andrew, thanks for calling in. So

1137
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 1: the first thing, the right tackle position. This is gonna

1138
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: be something that we're going to talk about at nauseum

1139
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: for six more months until the draft. Their tackle position

1140
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: is on a receptable the players they have on the rosters.

1141
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: It's deuce always brings up that belichicko from a couple

1142
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: of years ago, where he talks about being below the line, right,

1143
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: like sometimes it's just it's two it's not good enough, right,

1144
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: it's just below the line. They've been below the line

1145
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: at tackle this year. And it's not just starting tackles,

1146
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: it's depth at tackle too, right. They don't have start

1147
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: they don't have two starters, and they don't have any

1148
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: any depth behind the two starters either. And for some reason,

1149
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: and I hate to keep on nitpicking everything, but for

1150
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: some reason, they just they won't move Mike on Winnu

1151
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: back out. They just won't do it right, so they

1152
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: won't do it. And do I think that Mike on

1153
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: Winnu and James Fern's on the right side would have

1154
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: been better than Mike on Winnu and Connor McDermott against Buffalo,

1155
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: I do, I absolutely do, But they just wouldn't do it.

1156
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: So right tackle the future of that position. Now there

1157
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: is a little bit more, I would say, a little

1158
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: bit more movement with veteran tackles in recent years in

1159
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: the market. And there has been notoriously throughout the course

1160
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: of free agency. And I say free you know, back

1161
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: in the nineties when they started free agency, right, So

1162
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: there's more, There's been more. You know, Toron Armstead to Miami,

1163
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: Trent Williams gets traded to San Francisco a couple of

1164
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: years ago. But for the most part, if you have

1165
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: a good tackle, you don't move the good tackle, right.

1166
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: And the Saints had to move let Tron Armstead go

1167
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: because they were in cap jail. They had no choice.

1168
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: So those are the types of things that you know,

1169
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: arms had wanted, Trent Williams wanted out of Washington, right, Like,

1170
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: those are the things that allow this movement to happen.

1171
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: So veteran acquisition to that position or is tough, like

1172
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: it's tough to go out and get a real veterans.

1173
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: Do you want the free agents? Yes? All right, m oh,

1174
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: this is guards and tackles. I gotta go through here.

1175
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: Beecham's a guard, Brideberry guard, Orlando Brown Junior. Interesting name, yeah,

1176
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: Jack Conklin. Also an interesting name, Andre Dillard. It's a tackle,

1177
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: right tackle, George Fan, Cameron Fleming. I think this is alphabetical, uh,

1178
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: Mike McGlinchey, Dalton Reisner. So there's actually some good So

1179
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: this is a good free agent tackle class. I mean

1180
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: some of those guys will resign, but yeah, yeah, so McGlinchey, Um,

1181
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: he has issues in past protection. Um, but he's he's

1182
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: a Patriot right tackle. You know, he's a heavy, uh

1183
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: run blocking right tackle. Yeah, so he's got some Patriot

1184
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: elements to his game certainly, Um that that would respect that.

1185
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: He's Affilly native actually, um as well so East Coast

1186
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: guy yea, And yeah he's got some Um he's got

1187
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: some Patriots right tackle to him. So that one's interesting.

1188
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: And he was also a high draft pick and we

1189
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: know that they love to do that. Yeah, so I

1190
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: would put him in a category where you know, ears

1191
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: perk up a little bit as well. Uh. Conklin I

1192
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: think has also played on the right side most of

1193
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 1: his career. So I think because Trent, because of Trent

1194
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: Brown's versatility, they just need a tackle, right. I don't

1195
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: think that they necessarily need to lock into looking for

1196
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: a right tackle. Yeah they It might even be they

1197
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: might even be better off. Yeah. Um mclinchy's an interesting one. Yeah,

1198
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: Conklin has played I'm trying to find it. I think

1199
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's played boll side. So maybe you know,

1200
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,439
Speaker 1: just to because I just went on a rant about

1201
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: how horrible the tackles have been. Yeah, I wouldn't hate

1202
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: given a tackle some money in free agency and drafting

1203
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: some tackles, and the reality is they realistically are in

1204
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: uh here's career. No, Conklin's only played right tackle and

1205
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: a handful of snaps the right card. Yeah, that's what

1206
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: I thought. Um, they need they need to tackles anyway.

1207
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: It might not be like they don't necessarily need both

1208
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: this year. I think in a perfect world they do,

1209
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: but it's such an expensive position they probably need to

1210
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: do it over the next year. And if they give.

1211
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: You know, Mike McGlinchey, like a pretty solid free agent

1212
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: contract to come here to play right tackle, and then

1213
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: I draft use a top one hundred on a on

1214
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: a guy that can maybe play on the left side. Right,

1215
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: It's that's that's not a terrible way to go about it.

1216
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: But you gotta Trent's gonna be thirties in a contract year,

1217
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: so realistically, and he doesn't always stay on the field.

1218
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: I would love to see them use two premium assets

1219
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: on a tackle. I would love to see them sign

1220
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: one and draft one. I think this is a great

1221
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: sign one and draft one year. Yeah, it's not the

1222
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: best tackle class in the draft is not bad, but

1223
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: it's not I think that I thought last room was better.

1224
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: You know what I gather about the tackle class just

1225
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: looking at it, you know me, you know, very briefly

1226
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: at this point of the year, it sounds like it

1227
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: could be a decent tackle class just by skill set,

1228
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: like on Day two and three, like guys that just

1229
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: if you draft the right guy for your system, then

1230
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: he's going to be a solid player for you, right

1231
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: and and that might be something that would be up

1232
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: there Alley, certainly, it's all that's always up there Alley Right,

1233
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well this guy doesn't have top ten

1234
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, type of traits, but in our system, he's

1235
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: going to be a solid player. Like I right, and

1236
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: I I there was one you mentioned McGlinchey Conklin, who

1237
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: was obviously as Orlando Brown. Orlando Brown. That's an interesting

1238
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: one as well, because he can play left side. He's

1239
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: probably gonna get the back. Yeah, he'll get that franchise

1240
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: left tackle money. Yeah, which they have the money. I'm

1241
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: not a post same doing no, right, So I I

1242
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: think that they're if you want to have some money

1243
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: left over. Though, I feel like if you gave mcglinchy

1244
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: a ten to eleven million apy type contract to play

1245
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: right tackle, then you're you're in pretty good shape. I think,

1246
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: no matter what, they need a draft to tackle good one. Yeah.

1247
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: I think, no matter what, they need to draft to tackle,

1248
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: signing one as well would be like icing on the cake. Yeah,

1249
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: I guess so. I just think that. And by the way,

1250
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: when I say draft attack, I mean first round. Yeah.

1251
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: I think what's nice about signing one like it? Seeing

1252
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: that it is a pretty good tackle free agent class

1253
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: If some of those guys do hit free agency, it's

1254
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: plug in play, right, It's not like you have to

1255
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: develop the guy through the draft and could you know

1256
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: the cold strange. That's why I'm saying use a first

1257
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: round pick because in theory, those guys are supposed to

1258
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: be plug and play. Yeah, and I think there are

1259
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: a handful of plug and play tackles in this draft,

1260
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: not a lot. But the guy from Northwestern in that fifteen, well,

1261
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna go h he's gonna be off

1262
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: the board. They could, they could lose out and they

1263
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: still probably won't get him. Yeah, but you know Ohio

1264
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: I know you don't like Ohio States tackles, but they

1265
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: got a couple of good tackles. The one guy that

1266
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna hear a lot about and I won't go

1267
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: too deep into the names, but there's a guy named

1268
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: Broderick Jones from another Jones I know, um and the

1269
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: other tackle I like his named Jones, Dwan Jones, but

1270
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: from Ohio State. Right, Broderick Jones is a guy from Georgia.

1271
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: He's a little bigger six four three ten. Yeah, he

1272
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: is sort of Isaiah Win, that kind of athletic Georgia

1273
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: tackle that we know they like undersized. Now, he's just

1274
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: not big. He's six four, three ten. He's a left tackle. Okay,

1275
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: say he's bigger than he's but he's not big. Right.

1276
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't need him to be Trent Brown, right, but

1277
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: I I if they're gonna draft a tackle in the

1278
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: first round, he's gotta he's gotta be the old right,

1279
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: Like he's got to be the Clay. So he I

1280
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: can't have Isaiah Win. He's not in Like again, that's

1281
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: what i'd say. He's not Trent Brown. He's not somebody

1282
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: where you're sat you when you're listing his strengths, you're

1283
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: gonna listen, it's not gonna be the strengths. Is his

1284
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: strengths or weaknesses. He just he is. He's an average

1285
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: sized tackle. So like you know, last year we did

1286
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: a lot on tackles because we thought that they were

1287
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: might draft one, and uh, you know, Trevor Penning is

1288
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: that guy, right, Like from a measurable standpoint, he just

1289
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: checks every box like six seven, three ten, you know,

1290
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: good athlete, maller like that. That's just who Trevor Penning was.

1291
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: He goes top twenty all right, really quickly on the Cardinals. Here,

1292
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's talked about the Cardinals and any

1293
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: airwaves at all. And I mentioned it earlier that the

1294
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: Patriots could be in the driver's seat for the seven

1295
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: seat if they actually beat the Cardinals on Monday night.

1296
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: Believe it or not, the way that things are being

1297
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: talked about. Two things that stand out to me, I

1298
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: guess three, but just two on offense. One on offense,

1299
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: one on defense. Offensively, not a very good statistical defense

1300
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 1: from Arizona. I think they've underperformed their talent level. I

1301
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: think they have some good players, Buddha Baker, Murphy as Simmons.

1302
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: I think they have some guys that can play Zavin Collins.

1303
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: But they are a pressure pack defense. They blitz the

1304
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: quarterback a ton thirty five percent. They're most in the league. Yeah,

1305
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: So they come after the QB and they do it

1306
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: in multiple personnel groupings, multiple coverages, mostly zone butts, but

1307
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: they can really spin it and come after the quarterback.

1308
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: So this is one of those games where for an

1309
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: offensive line and an operation that's just not been the

1310
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: plan and the coordination has not been very good, this

1311
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: can really put it to the test. If you can

1312
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: get it blocked, then they give up plays. They can

1313
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: really give up plays in the passing game, but getting

1314
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: it blocked is going to be a tough one this week. Yeah,

1315
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: And I mean that's that's kind of scary proposition, right,

1316
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: but that's where you need to get into that. Here

1317
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: we go again. Even play action RPO creative run to

1318
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: RPOs could be interesting in this game because if you

1319
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: can catch them in a blitz, especially a zone blitz,

1320
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: just like Marcus Jones is touchdown exactly. Yeah, you can

1321
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: hit just things that slow down the pass rush instinctually. Right. Yeah. Oh,

1322
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: I've got to watch for you know, draws, I've got

1323
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: to watch for this. I've got to watch for that,

1324
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,799
Speaker 1: plays that don't necessarily take a long time to develop

1325
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: but aren't instant, Like there's somewhere in that in between

1326
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: where you make them think twice about it. And again

1327
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 1: against a heavy blitzing team too, you hit that RPO

1328
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: slamp behind the blitz and you take it to the house.

1329
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll see. I mean, it's the same stuff

1330
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: we've been calling for all year, right, But I will

1331
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: they do it? I don't know, But that's what that's

1332
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: what you look at against a team like this. Okay,

1333
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: so offensively. So the interesting thing in the right my

1334
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: game previous interesting thing about this game is the Cardinals

1335
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: are four and eight. They're going nowhere. Cliff Kingsbury might

1336
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: be going out the door and coming here. Maybe you'll

1337
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: see about that in the off season. You were, you

1338
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: were out on that yesterday. I'm coming around to it.

1339
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: What happened? You got like very annoyed with me when

1340
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: I brought that up yesterday. I don't know, he's sometimes

1341
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: I get annoyed with things. It's because I said it.

1342
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: You probably heard somebody else say, and you'll have a

1343
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 1: great idea. I'm so out on what the current set

1344
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: up that literally anybody at this point just will make

1345
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: me feel better. Anyways, the thing about the Cardinals is

1346
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: their four and eighth. They're going nowhere. Their head coach

1347
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: might be on the chopping book. But there's three elements.

1348
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: This is what I should have done to begin with.

1349
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: There's three elements of their roster that can really give

1350
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: you a lot of problems, like they're just are you know,

1351
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: matchup weaknesses for the Patriots right one is obviously the

1352
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback and you watch them on tape and Kyler

1353
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 1: runs around. He still does now he doesn't do it

1354
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: on designed runs as much as they did in the past.

1355
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: I think they gave him that two hundred and thirty

1356
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: million dollar contract and they're like, we need them out there,

1357
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: Like I don't. It might not be is all pro

1358
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: pro Bowl. Let make sure this guy can last, but

1359
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: let's just make sure it doesn't get killed. Right. So

1360
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: if we're in the playoffs and we're going for a

1361
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 1: super Bowl, then we'll run them. But like in these games,

1362
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 1: we're not gonna run. So I do think, yeah, So

1363
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: I do think that there's an element of it of

1364
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: how badly do the Cardinals actually want this game? Now?

1365
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: Cliff probably is gonna want it badly because he's gonna

1366
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: get fired if if they lose out right, So you

1367
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: know there's that element of it, But how badly does

1368
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: the Cardinals brass? How badly does Kyler actually care about

1369
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: beating the Patriots on Monday Night? I think the one

1370
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: angle that you might have is that it is a

1371
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: primetime game and you don't want to get embarrassed in

1372
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: national television. But ultimately that's what's gonna come down to

1373
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: with Kyler's legs. If Kyler wants to take over this

1374
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: game with his legs. He can do it. The question

1375
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: is is does he want to take the game over

1376
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:39,560
Speaker 1: with his legs? Now? For the Patriots, I think the

1377
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 1: best way that they've always done it with mobile quarterbacks

1378
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: in terms of the design run game is you know

1379
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: a lot of these gap run schemes, or they have

1380
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: the pollers and the quarterback goes to the middle, or

1381
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: the back bounces or vice versa. You gotta treat the

1382
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 1: middle run like it's like it's a traditional run. So

1383
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: get him Bentley to buy and just you know, coming

1384
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: downhill on those pollers and billing it to the outside

1385
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: where you have Adrian Phillips, Kyle Dugger, Jabriel Peppers and

1386
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: you put the athletes on the outside. You put the

1387
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: big dudes in the middle, and you force everything outside

1388
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 1: to the athletes, right, Like that's sort of the goal

1389
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: of the game plan. I think that's really what they

1390
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,759
Speaker 1: gotta do. I forget I was talking to yesterday upstairs.

1391
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: I think it was Neil Social, Neil from Social throughout.

1392
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: What about Marcus Jones as a spy on Kyler and

1393
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: man coverage. So they've done it before. They've done it

1394
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: before with Jonathan Jones on Lamar. Right, they've had some

1395
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: downs with that, but now they need Jonathan Jones to cover,

1396
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: so they can't have him spy. But they have to.

1397
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: Mac Wilson cannot spy Kyler Murray, right, Like mac Wilson

1398
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: is not fast enough in the open field, and Kyler

1399
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: is not only fast in a straight line, but he's

1400
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: also quick as hell too, right, so he's an elusive runner.

1401
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 1: So whether it's Jabriel, it's Dugger, it's Marcus Jones potentially,

1402
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: Like they have to have a spy in passing situations,

1403
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: even if they're in zone. I would say that they

1404
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: have to have a spy in passing situations on Kyler Murray. Um, well,

1405
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: the thing is like you're not necessarily going to dedicate

1406
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: his zone defender to that part of the field because

1407
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: the Cardinals don't really throw in that part of the field, right, right,

1408
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: So right, it's if they're throwing to the middle, it's

1409
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: the deep middle. It's not they're not short middle. Now, yeah,

1410
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: they're not doing it's it's DeAndre Hopkins, Marquise Brown, Rondel Moore.

1411
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 1: They're sending those guys down there, right, so he can't

1412
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 1: see over the line. So right, I forgot they have

1413
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson too. Yeah, he did because he can't see

1414
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: over the line, right, So throwing five year passes over

1415
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: the middle, he said he can't see him. He had

1416
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: Connor McDermott in there at six to eight. Put him

1417
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: at defense, a defensive tackle. Just throw his hands up.

1418
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: Who's that person that kept on, Oh, there's some guy.

1419
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: When we had an ultra on YouTube, was always like,

1420
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: I've just unlocked the NFL seven four defensive tackle. He

1421
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: he called it a defensive center or ell. Yeah, and

1422
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: he wanted a guy that was just like you know,

1423
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 1: he wanted to stand there like this over the center

1424
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: and just deflect passes for four quarters. I look, there's

1425
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: a million reasons why that wouldn't work. But if there

1426
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: was ever a game to try it, No, but in

1427
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 1: all seriousness, yeah, it's it's leave one guy in the

1428
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 1: spy him and then make him beat make him beat

1429
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: you throwing those passes. Take it away over the toppings,

1430
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, take take it away over the torpo, no

1431
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 1: quarterback run, make him sit there in the pocket and

1432
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: beat you. Now, the other element of this, the one

1433
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: thing I will say, yeah, when he does check it down,

1434
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: it's going to James Connor. Yeah, James Connor is not

1435
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: and he's got to tackle. When James Connor gets the ball,

1436
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: you got to swarm to the ball because it's gonna

1437
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: take more than one guy to bring him down. The

1438
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: other element of this game this to me, and somebody

1439
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: asks Bill about this, But he's never gonna like, he's

1440
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 1: not gonna do this right, He's not gonna answer these

1441
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: types of questions. But this gauntlet of wide receivers that

1442
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: they're in the middle of Justin Jefferson, Stefan Diggs, DeAndre Hopkins,

1443
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: Davante Adams, Jamaar Chase, Tyree Hill, Stefan Diggs. Again, those

1444
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: are the receivers that they're playing over the next seven

1445
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 1: games or in this seven game stretch. Those are the

1446
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: best seven receivers in the Natural Football League. I think

1447
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: I think those are the best seven guys. If you

1448
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: were going to make a ranking of the best seven

1449
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: receivers in the league, they have Jefferson, Digs, Adams, Hopkins, Hill, Like,

1450
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can get any better than that.

1451
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: The only guy I'll just off the top of my head.

1452
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: You might be right, Mike Evans, I don't know if

1453
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: Mike Evans is in that category anymore. I think he has.

1454
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: I think kind he's kind of slowing down a little bit.

1455
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: Is he slowing down or does that offensive line just

1456
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: like not good? Maybe? I don't know. I think that

1457
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 1: those might be the second then the one other one

1458
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: would be a J. Brown I mean a J. Browns.

1459
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: He's a monster. That's fair. But but seven to ten

1460
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: is still in in a seven week stretches insane. No

1461
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: matter what your top ten is, these seven are in there.

1462
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,440
Speaker 1: They're in there somewhere. So this is an absolutely ridiculous

1463
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: gauntlet of receivers. So DeAndre Hopkins is up next, and

1464
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: I just think, you know, for so many reasons, what

1465
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: they did against Jefferson and Days is not going to

1466
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 1: work against DeAndre Hopkins. You just he's much more physical. Yeah,

1467
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: you just can't have five foot nine Jonathan Jones on

1468
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: on DeAndre Hopkins. So I think it is actually big.

1469
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: And I know when people hear this, they're like, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not big if Jalen Mills played. I actually do

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Speaker 1: think it's big if Jalen Mills plays or not, because

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Speaker 1: Jalen Mills, I think can be physical with a guy

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Speaker 1: like Hopkins a little bit like you don't want him

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Speaker 1: to cover number ones because he's he's, you know, gets

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Speaker 1: a little bit loose at the top of the route

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Speaker 1: for him. But if this to me screams you know,

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Speaker 1: there's always two things with Belichick. It's either like we

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Speaker 1: have Drell Rieves and he's gonna take Megatron. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: take him on his own, or it's we're gonna double

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Speaker 1: the number one guy and then our number one guy

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Speaker 1: is gonna go take their number two guy. So in

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Speaker 1: this matchup, it feels like Jalen Mills with safety help

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Speaker 1: on DeAndre Hopkins and then it's just you know, Jonathan Jones,

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Speaker 1: you have Hollywood Brown, like it's you just gotta take them,

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Speaker 1: you know, and whatever they end. Here's the thing, enough

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Speaker 1: to Hollywood, they give up to Hollywood. Isn't Jalen Mills

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Speaker 1: on Hollywood Brown or Robbie Anderson kind of a mismatch

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Speaker 1: because of the speed? Probably like it's a better matchup

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Speaker 1: both ways to put and maybe like I would say,

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Speaker 1: like if you're rating the players out of one hundred,

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Speaker 1: right the Madden rating, Jonathan Jones is higher and DeAndre

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01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 1: Hopkins higher, So you think one on one, right, the

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Speaker 1: game's not played like that. Yeah, put your big physical

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Speaker 1: corner on the big physical corner, put your burner corner

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01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: on the burner wide receiver. Like, the talent gap isn't

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Speaker 1: that much. I think Jonathan Jones a better player, but

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01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,560
Speaker 1: the talent gap isn't that much. Where you gotta just

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Speaker 1: kind of blindly one on one, two on two. No,

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Speaker 1: you gotta play him where they make sense. They gotta

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Speaker 1: figure out a way. They gotta figure out a way

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01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: against these number one guys they just do. I mean,

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01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 1: they just they're not gonna win any games go down

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01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 1: the stretch here if they if they can't figure out

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01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: a way to make it so that justin Jefferson is

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01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 1: Deefon Diggs, don't completely take over the game, right, And

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01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: there were just elements of that game against Buffalo as well,

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01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 1: whereas Deefon Diggs was just you just took over, right,

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01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: And you just can't have those types of things happen.

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01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: So there's your Cardinals preview as well. And I will

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01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: be on the road next week with the team in

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01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: Arizona in Zona, and uh, we're still gonna do the show,

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01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:17,600
Speaker 1: So don't worry about it. Alex is going to be

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01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: here in studio. I got this cool fancy podcast Mike

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01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna bring with me that Morrell hooked me

1515
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 1: up with, and I will do it from wherever we're

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01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: at in Arizona. You know, state secrets around here, Alex.

1517
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 1: I can't can't tell anybody where we're staying because it's

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01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: such a you can't tell us it's in the state

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01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: of Arizona. I don't even know where we're staying. We're

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01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: leaving in three days. I have no tea, literally cannot

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01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: tell it. I literally have no idea. But I will

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01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: be with the team, um, you know, for practice next

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01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: week and availability and all that kind of stuff. And

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Speaker 1: so we'll do the podcast um from Arizona, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna try to do it at the same time as

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01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: long as you know the schedule with the time change

1527
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: and everything lines up. But don't worry. Still get your

1528
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: catch twenty two next week, so we will talk to

1529
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: you then and hopefully that Raiders game is it. I'm

1530
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: surprised at God flexed, honestly, like, because that could still be.

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01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 1: That's a pseudo playoff game for those two teams if

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01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: if both teams win this Raiders have kind of charged

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01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: back on here, so yeah, they're fun watch right now.

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Speaker 1: All right, So Alex and I will be back next week,

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Speaker 1: so until then, signing off for Alex Barth, I'm Evan Lazar.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening everybody, and we'll talk to you next week.

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