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Speaker 2: That might have been our finest adway we've ever had
Speaker 2: in our entire life. But you really sparked a flame.
Speaker 2: You really sparked a flame by talking about the Michigan Wolverines.
Speaker 2: Can we just get a round of a pause?
Speaker 1: Mitch out of respect, just out of respect, But it's
Speaker 1: not Mitch's Ohio State guy.
Speaker 3: He picked him on in the Cuba when he was
Speaker 3: young and rowed with him ever since. Yep, he respect
Speaker 3: heads off to him. He as an Ohio State guy.
Speaker 3: That was an ass whooping. It was incredible.
Speaker 4: It was closed in they it was closing the first half.
Speaker 4: It's a good game throughout the in like the third quarter.
Speaker 3: What if I said all year, that's where I personally
Speaker 3: want to give you your flowers, saying that you were
Speaker 3: correct about that. Like obviously, when stuff like that happens
Speaker 3: and you're saying it's the best second half team of
Speaker 3: all time. They're doing it against all the you know
Speaker 3: the schmucks that they're smacking. Yeah, when they did it
Speaker 3: against Ohio State, I'm sitting back. I'm watching the game
Speaker 3: because I'm rooting for Blue like I just want you,
Speaker 3: and they're not playing corn whoever.
Speaker 1: To win that game.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be a dominant performance because we truly
Speaker 3: need somebody to represent the Big Ten. And with that said,
Speaker 3: hats off the Michigan is that second half team. Dude,
Speaker 3: is that second half team, and we need them in
Speaker 3: the biggest way.
Speaker 1: To represent us in the college football playoff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what I found out too, And
Speaker 2: I'm gonna We're gonna stick on the Michigan for a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: But I need to give Columbus some flowers.
Speaker 2: I need to give Ahouse States and flowers too, because
Speaker 2: they actually deserve it. It sounds wild, but I'm not here
Speaker 2: to burn bridges I'm actually here to build them up
Speaker 2: because they really support the boys out there in Columbus.
Speaker 2: Everybody in the Big t Yes, oh boys, Oh it's
Speaker 2: the boy. Yeah. I will absolutely get into all that
Speaker 2: with you. But I will say now that the game
Speaker 2: is over, and I know this might be blasphemous, but Columbus,
Speaker 2: you need to support the boys in ann Arbor to
Speaker 2: represent the Big Ten. They're being disrespected. The SEC is
Speaker 2: God right now, Let's call it what it is. It's
Speaker 2: a David and Golai situation. It's Georgia versus everybody else.
Speaker 2: I know South Carolina had a phenomenal job nominal ending.
Speaker 1: To the season.
Speaker 2: That really is gonna take you guys maybe to a
Speaker 2: top tier SEC team in the future. We do definitely
Speaker 2: need he needs to talk about it. Oh yeah, we
Speaker 2: have to show respect. But this is it was unbelievable.
Speaker 2: I was driving back Vanessa. I stayed for the first quarter.
Speaker 2: I had to book out there because your boy had
Speaker 2: to get home to see his kids. As I'm driving
Speaker 2: my old man who drove with me, he's like, whatever
Speaker 2: it was. It was twenty seventeen at the end of
Speaker 2: a half, and I literally thought to myself, good it's close. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that means it's over. And then sure enough that I
Speaker 2: truly in my heart of I've like when I left Michigan,
Speaker 2: I actually hated Michigan, couldn't stand Michigan. But as I
Speaker 2: got older and I learned, maybe hit the therapy a
Speaker 2: little bit to talk to doctor Schwartz for a little bit.
Speaker 2: We put away the mom issues and really tackled those
Speaker 2: college issues for a little bit, and it was really
Speaker 2: more me than it was them. Right, So now I'm realized,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm really watching Michigan and I said, for
Speaker 2: the whole year, they're a second half team. I truly
Speaker 2: believe like we have a dominant coaching staff hardball and
Speaker 2: that what he's doing, especially if the on line coach
Speaker 2: I coached more, I believe his name is absolute stud.
Speaker 2: I had O Lineman after the game text me and
Speaker 2: be like, that was for all of you, alum, that
Speaker 2: was for all you guys, And I was like.
Speaker 1: So, fuck, isn't that fucking cool?
Speaker 2: And I'm sure they're just saying it, because they're probably
Speaker 2: just saying it, but it was outstanding.
Speaker 1: To hear that.
Speaker 3: If you're a player and you get on the bus
Speaker 3: after the game and you're shooting off your text like
Speaker 3: you got a shitload of texts if they're taking a
Speaker 3: helmet to write that out, whether or not it's bullshit
Speaker 3: or not, like that's.
Speaker 1: That's special. Intentional. Yeah, they're doing that intentional, Yes, and
Speaker 1: I think they have that in mind, thinking like we're
Speaker 1: fucking i mean, dude, how long has it been two
Speaker 1: years in a row and then winning at Ohio State
Speaker 1: for the first time since two thousand, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was iconic.
Speaker 3: Did did they went back to back in two thousand?
Speaker 3: Or was that the last time they won ATAHA? Was
Speaker 3: the last time they won out AHOs State? Because we
Speaker 3: beating the hosts even longer with them back to back?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean before and before last year o High
Speaker 4: State won seventh straight and fifteen of sixteen. So this
Speaker 4: is like the first time Michigan one back to back
Speaker 4: and probably closer to twenty.
Speaker 3: And that doesn't hit you until after the game, like
Speaker 3: you're so focused on the game, Like I'm sure they're
Speaker 3: hearing stuff like that, like oh, it's gonna be dope,
Speaker 3: like let's win blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But they're winning for each other.
Speaker 3: But after the game when everything's sitting in, everything is
Speaker 3: sinking in. They're like, yo, we legitimately accomplish something. Like
Speaker 3: I think back to the spring tour when we interview
Speaker 3: Blake Korum, God bless him, Like they beat him without.
Speaker 1: Blake Korum, they beat him, and they beat him in
Speaker 1: a way that no one thought mischieven. Had they didn't
Speaker 1: beat him in the air.
Speaker 2: I my mind was like, hey, there's got to manage
Speaker 2: the clock and keep their offense off the field. Legit
Speaker 2: their defense at HATS I was like, we got to
Speaker 2: keep their offense off the field.
Speaker 3: They're really doing something right strategy by hey, Ohio State,
Speaker 3: Like yeah, let's see if they can beat us in
Speaker 3: the air.
Speaker 1: Like that was the right move.
Speaker 3: But like again, like talking to Blake Koram and you
Speaker 3: could just hear it the way he wanted him and
Speaker 3: I'm assuming everybody else shares the same intention as like
Speaker 3: they wanted to change and beat Oha State, Like yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't want to go there.
Speaker 1: I want to beat them.
Speaker 3: Like they get to now sit back, not now like
Speaker 3: obviously that the job is now finished. It's just starting, right,
Speaker 3: but you get the after the game, you sit back
Speaker 3: and you're like, yo, we really fucking accomplish something that
Speaker 3: hasn't been done in decades.
Speaker 2: Decades, plural with an at the end of goose bumps.
Speaker 2: It's incredible. It is for the boys. Extremely happy for
Speaker 2: the boys. But we need everybody who listens to this podcast,
Speaker 2: whatever Big Ten team you're root for, like we're all
Speaker 2: one team now, Well we still Purdue and Michigan still
Speaker 2: to play the Bay Tens.
Speaker 3: No, no, Purdue, Dina, Dennis Kelly, he's a big listener
Speaker 3: to the pod, but even.
Speaker 1: Jordan Ruse also.
Speaker 3: I respect the Purdue ball club, but we need we
Speaker 3: need good representation in the Big Ten, like we need
Speaker 3: everybody in the Big Ten players, fans alike. We put
Speaker 3: the sword down and we have to back Michigan. This
Speaker 3: is Michigan against everybody. Dude needs to throw this Big
Speaker 3: Ten game.
Speaker 1: Yes, not not throw it, but their coaches need to
Speaker 1: be talking with the Michigan coaches back, Hey, well what
Speaker 1: looks do you want to see? Yeah? What do you
Speaker 1: want to see? Like our game plan?
Speaker 5: This?
Speaker 1: Who do you want?
Speaker 3: Like they need to they need to be impersonating in Georgia.
Speaker 3: This needs to be a tune up game to get
Speaker 3: in the College Football Playoff and ultimately they're probably not
Speaker 3: gonna play Georgia because Michigan is gonna be the number two.
Speaker 3: Georgia is gonna be number one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, looking at it right now as the standings are,
Speaker 2: i'mretty sure it's gonna be Michigan TCU. No, Michigan US wins.
Speaker 2: CCU will be three, They will be three. USC's gonna
Speaker 2: be four. Now there's a there's a world where Ohio
Speaker 2: State steaks to these playoffs?
Speaker 1: Is a you think five?
Speaker 4: I saw something that was like, Georgia has a ninety
Speaker 4: nine percent chance to go in, uh, Michigan has a
Speaker 4: ninety seven and Ohio State has the third best chance
Speaker 4: in eighty eight percent chance to get into there.
Speaker 1: That crazy.
Speaker 4: I don't As an Ohio State fan, I don't necessarily
Speaker 4: agree with that.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't care when as a Big Tens fan,
Speaker 3: I absolutely wholeheartedly agree with that. And again I'm not
Speaker 3: bullshitting Purdue. Draw up scout team cards, whatever Michigan wants
Speaker 3: you to do this weekend in the Big Ten Championship,
Speaker 3: and let's start prepping for who we think we're gonna
Speaker 3: play in the College Football Playoff, and I think that
Speaker 3: will be TCU, so let's are getting ready for that
Speaker 3: high powered offense. We need the TCU looks on defense.
Speaker 3: We need the TCU looks on offense.
Speaker 1: Perdue.
Speaker 3: If you're listening right now, which I'm sure you are,
Speaker 3: boiler up, help us out. Yeah, we've got to We've
Speaker 3: got to secure this. With that said, because I know
Speaker 3: I just big time stand Michigan. Listen, that's who I'm
Speaker 3: rooting for. You guys carrying this responsibility. If you guys
Speaker 3: embarrassed the Big Ten again in the college football playoff.
Speaker 1: That is on you. That is on you, and that
Speaker 1: is on Dave Portnoy. Wow.
Speaker 3: As the two Michigan guys out there trying to carry
Speaker 3: this flag.
Speaker 1: We are we as fans, we are carrying the flag.
Speaker 3: That is on you, guys, first and foremost, because you're
Speaker 3: calling for I've seen Dave.
Speaker 1: I've seen Dave say we will bear this cross. I've
Speaker 1: seen you. We're sitting here, we're all chip. I will
Speaker 1: bear the cross.
Speaker 3: If we're asking all of Big Ten country to back
Speaker 3: you guys, we will do that. But if you guys
Speaker 3: embarrassed the Big Ten again, that's on you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: If Michigan has the same kind of showing they did
Speaker 2: in the first playoff game.
Speaker 1: That's a tough fucking deal to deal with.
Speaker 2: We had to do a lot of reevaluating, looking in
Speaker 2: the mirror internally and figuring out how are we going
Speaker 2: to take that next step to where we can be
Speaker 2: competitive for a national championship.
Speaker 1: Now we're looking.
Speaker 2: At back to back Bay ten championships, which is outstanding,
Speaker 2: But you want to get to the top of the mountain, dude,
Speaker 2: The bulldogs are standing right there and that's who you
Speaker 2: have to take down.
Speaker 1: Now, let me remind you of one thing.
Speaker 2: When we are at Michigan before the bust and Bowl,
Speaker 2: we spoke to the strength staff. How impressed for you
Speaker 2: the strengths staff. That's just a quick answer, one more answer, sir.
Speaker 2: Elite elite.
Speaker 1: Yes. Now made me think to myself, I wish I
Speaker 1: had known Taylor earlier because this is I would love
Speaker 1: to go up there and do all this shit that
Speaker 1: they're talking about. Assessment wise.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable they have because they're juicing me up for
Speaker 3: a year eleven, year twelve.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're fifteen, oh, mynd and with that coaching staff,
Speaker 2: you probably could get that done.
Speaker 1: But were you not motivated. No, no, no, walks away like, oh,
Speaker 1: we could play for twenty more years when they come
Speaker 1: back here next week training.
Speaker 2: Yes, dude, they are the Michigan strength staff along with
Speaker 2: the coaching staff. It is the most professionally done setup, the.
Speaker 1: Most like, the way they detailed, the most detailed, the
Speaker 1: way they assess things, the way they do things in
Speaker 1: the weight room.
Speaker 2: It's incredible. It is truly truly incredible. Uh, coach, I
Speaker 2: believe it's herb right.
Speaker 1: We don't have a pull up. Pull it up real quickly.
Speaker 2: We got to send him a bottle of our whiskey too,
Speaker 2: because he's Yeah, he's a big whiskey face that that
Speaker 2: big uh man cave garage type set up.
Speaker 1: The MANSHD what men do not.
Speaker 2: And if you haven't been able to get some of
Speaker 2: that whistle, pig bust and whiskey, it is incredible.
Speaker 1: It truly is a delight in your mouth.
Speaker 2: Ben Herbert, Dude, this guy, first off has top five
Speaker 2: most intense eyes you've ever seen in your life. A
Speaker 2: handshake that will make God go WHOA. He is one
Speaker 2: of those red jacket Yeah, he goes. You need to
Speaker 2: take that off. I did tell him to tell you that.
Speaker 2: But I so this is a long winded way of
Speaker 2: because that was supposed to be a short answer, but
Speaker 2: we did a long answer, both of us. This is
Speaker 2: a long way of saying, like I brought up Georgia
Speaker 2: to them. I told I'd said, hey, that shit was
Speaker 2: embarrassing last time.
Speaker 1: And he legit.
Speaker 2: He laid down a sort he put his ego side.
Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, we got bullied, we got dumbing, but
Speaker 2: we know now, we're aware now and we've been preparing
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 1: They are ready. I and again, I've never been so
Speaker 1: high on the University of Mission of my entire life
Speaker 1: as I am right now. Yeah, I mean back to
Speaker 1: back hops fo a playoff Like I'm.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not even saying I'm not even saying that
Speaker 2: I'm but if they would have won like they did
Speaker 2: last year against the Hoose State, still a dominant performance,
Speaker 2: ran really well, but they took it to the air.
Speaker 2: They had guys putting burners on and taking it sixty
Speaker 2: yards for touchdowns. They were showing a different kind of
Speaker 2: dynamic in their offense that makes you go, this is
Speaker 2: a fucking complete team. They have the special teams, their
Speaker 2: defense does nothing flashy. They're gonna be in their gaps.
Speaker 2: They're gonna edge wall swarm. Their guys are not gonna
Speaker 2: fuck up. They're not gonna dive off the dining boarder
Speaker 2: and tackles. They're gonna do it right. And their offense
Speaker 2: showed us yesterday, which is Sunday by the way, when
Speaker 2: we're filming this.
Speaker 1: Showed us what's that Yeah, today is Sunday. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They showed us that they can legit win any way
Speaker 2: they need to.
Speaker 1: And that's all I needed to see.
Speaker 2: I am one willing to bear this cross that the
Speaker 2: University of Michigan is gonna win the national championship. They
Speaker 2: are going to win the national championship.
Speaker 3: I truly this is not look ahead, like we will
Speaker 3: look ahead, Michigan, focus on your shit right now when
Speaker 3: I will look ahead and get excited Taylor's claiming national title. Listen,
Speaker 3: I'm with it. I'm ready to sell out again once again.
Speaker 3: And I truly I want every Big ten fan, if
Speaker 3: you're on a Big ten team, I want everybody to
Speaker 3: we need to be in this together, right, we need
Speaker 3: to be in this together. The minute it's over and
Speaker 3: it's one, it's like, okay, the target is on Michigan's things.
Speaker 3: We got to take them down, especially next year September thirtieth,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three at Nebraska.
Speaker 1: A down second annual Bustin Bowl. We need that fucking trophy.
Speaker 1: The Lombardy of college football in the Big Ten needs
Speaker 1: to happen. And you might be thinking to yourself, I
Speaker 1: fucking hate Michigan. I would never root for Michigan. I
Speaker 1: like X, Y and Z team. These are my teams.
Speaker 2: If Michigan wins the national championship, your team automatically got better.
Speaker 2: By association, the Big Ten is now the best power
Speaker 2: of five conference there is, and we can fucking ride
Speaker 2: that train all the way until next season. Then you
Speaker 2: got a round the back up and see what happens
Speaker 2: next time. But you have a full offseason to say, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm a Purdue fan.
Speaker 1: Oh, you guys are in the Big Ten.
Speaker 2: That's the best. That's the best conference in college football. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that is something.
Speaker 1: Now. I don't know how many points the Michigan put
Speaker 1: up on Ohio State forty two, forty five. Excuse no,
Speaker 1: we didn't give up forty five points against Oho State.
Speaker 2: Nebraska, you know also didn't give up forty five points,
Speaker 2: you know, who Nebraska also didn't give up forty five
Speaker 2: points two Michigan.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, that's what I'm meant to say. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: meant to say, perfect bitch. Oh if Ohio State and
Speaker 1: Nebraska played right now and Nebraska's hot right now, there's
Speaker 1: everyone in the continent and the whole country is lucky
Speaker 1: they're not playing right now.
Speaker 3: To Butcher a quote from Moneyball, if you don't win
Speaker 3: the last game, you don't mean shit. We won our
Speaker 3: last game. I know we're going into the offseason. At
Speaker 3: El High. We had a statement win.
Speaker 2: More tread on the tires. No no bowl game, even
Speaker 2: though they already played a bowl game this year. You play, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we want they don't have to go train for a
Speaker 2: January one bowl game. More tread on the tires, more
Speaker 2: me and the bone for next year when Nebraska gets real.
Speaker 2: Because Matt rules in the building, which I don't want
Speaker 2: to go to just yet.
Speaker 3: I want to get I want to continue to say
Speaker 3: that we have taken control of the border between Nebraska
Speaker 3: and iowaen we now control the cattle industry. It's back
Speaker 3: and I will like hats off to George Kittle with that.
Speaker 3: Mami hit me back with and ratiowed me. Yeah, phenomenal,
Speaker 3: I am. But again, what I Will hated us these
Speaker 3: last seven years that all we could talk about was
Speaker 3: the past.
Speaker 1: Now, don't start talking about the past.
Speaker 3: You want to talk about the past, talk about the
Speaker 3: five Natties that we got in the empty trophy case
Speaker 3: that you guys have. We can talk about the past
Speaker 3: you want. Yeah, you got the last seven out of eight.
Speaker 3: That's fine. We won last.
Speaker 1: You always get your last game. You're only as good
Speaker 1: as your last game.
Speaker 3: Now again, you want to talk about the best, that's fine,
Speaker 3: just inclusive the five Natties and our full trophy case
Speaker 3: compared to you have nothing in your trophy.
Speaker 1: Case and Iowa and Iowa.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna sit there and compare yourself to Nebraska
Speaker 2: who defeated you, comparison is the thief of joy. Don't
Speaker 2: take away, don't take away your offseason. You just get
Speaker 2: back in the way room and you keep working because
Speaker 2: guess what, when Michigan wins this national championship, you guys
Speaker 2: just got better too.
Speaker 1: You're welcome.
Speaker 2: This is literally a therapy session on the bus for
Speaker 2: the Big Ten. We are coming to take over the
Speaker 2: entire college football landscape. As a as a conference. This
Speaker 2: is not just Michigan. This is a conference.
Speaker 3: This is a conference and a movement going into the
Speaker 3: College World Playoff.
Speaker 1: And again, I respect Perdue.
Speaker 3: I wish they were undefeated too, so we could we
Speaker 3: could talk about how this.
Speaker 1: Is gonna be some sort of a game. It still
Speaker 1: could be a game. It could be a better nub. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't need it to be a game. We don't
Speaker 1: need it to be again, don't want it to be.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be, not even not even Purdue fans
Speaker 1: want it to be. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure they want to win their little you know,
Speaker 3: obviously the blind loyalty right now, I'm sure all the
Speaker 3: Purdue fans like these fucking clowns, dude thinking, then I'm
Speaker 3: going to root against Purdue this weekend. I trust me.
Speaker 3: I do understand that. My heart goes out to you guys.
Speaker 3: I wish I could share that same sentiment. But there's
Speaker 3: zoom out.
Speaker 1: A little bit. There's a bigger play at hand here,
Speaker 1: and that's again getting the little Bardy back to back
Speaker 1: in the big ten, back in the bag tench we
Speaker 1: talk about Matt Ruleton Nebraska. I would like to be
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Speaker 2: No I didn't. I said they're a fire.
Speaker 3: You said I need to give Columbus flowers, and then
Speaker 3: you continue to talk about how great they were, and.
Speaker 1: I literally said it.
Speaker 2: I said, why I brought up Matt Roles, I want
Speaker 2: to talk about columb We don't got to.
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying in the very beginning, before we talked
Speaker 1: about the game, I want to talk about my experience
Speaker 1: of Columbus. That's what I wanted to howl. The people
Speaker 1: were so nice. The people were incredible. You can double down.
Speaker 1: The people were a clip.
Speaker 3: This would be a great mom be a great time
Speaker 3: this week to like him saying him be like you
Speaker 3: did talk about He's like, no, I don't think I did.
Speaker 2: And then we run him saying that him doing it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that'd be phenomenal. People in Columbus are amazing. They were great,
Speaker 2: They were hospitable, and I thought I was gonna be
Speaker 2: an absolute shit show.
Speaker 1: Matt Ruhle, No, hang on, if there's more weeds to
Speaker 1: dive into on the entire trip and experience with the Columbus,
Speaker 1: what exactly standing out to you where you're like, I've
Speaker 1: got to give this bouquet in my head in this moment.
Speaker 2: When I had when I was driving away from Columbus,
Speaker 2: when I was driving into Columbus, I thought it was
Speaker 2: gonna be Honestly, I thought it was gonna be a shithole.
Speaker 2: I thought the fans were gonna be mean. I thought
Speaker 2: I was gonna be like just an awful experience being
Speaker 2: in there, like can we Some guys were like, hey,
Speaker 2: fuck you today, but then they would end up with
Speaker 2: a tighten up or hey I messed with the boys
Speaker 2: or something like that. There was always insult because Mission
Speaker 2: and House State are playing, and then it was finish
Speaker 2: it with a compliment that literally people fuck with busting
Speaker 2: with the boys in Columbus, Ohio, which I thought in
Speaker 2: a million years that would not happen.
Speaker 1: Because they're for the boys, but they're just for their boys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So for the boys, they understand the movement, they
Speaker 2: understand the movement, they're about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, now the game. Going to the game would be
Speaker 1: a move Going to the game would be yes, like yeah,
Speaker 1: he said, like, well it'll be in Michigan next year.
Speaker 1: We figured it out anyway. Yeah. Side note I Fall
Speaker 1: Tour is going to be back next year. We'll see.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about Matt Rule being the head
Speaker 2: coach of the University of Nebraska. How does that make
Speaker 2: you feel when those words come out of my mouth?
Speaker 1: Excited? And again I did my little video.
Speaker 3: I did my video and I talked about why, and
Speaker 3: there wasn't a whole lot of like I've talked to,
Speaker 3: like I've talked with.
Speaker 1: Guys, not the name drop, but the also name drop.
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey, Amir Doulah, Matti and Itis all had really
Speaker 3: good things to say about Coach Rule. Amir had a
Speaker 3: full two minute long voice message to the Husker group
Speaker 3: chat that we have talking about when he played for
Speaker 3: Coach Rule last year in Carolina. But I'm fired up,
Speaker 3: But I'm personally fired up because I know I talked
Speaker 3: about it. It's been the first time in a long
Speaker 3: time the Chancellor of the President and the AD have
Speaker 3: like continuity because usually, like with BO you had Tom Osborne,
Speaker 3: he was the AD the a D and the Chancellor
Speaker 3: didn't necessarily not like they didn't see ey to I.
Speaker 3: But the chancellor, that chancellor at the time was the
Speaker 3: one who ultimately pushed out Tom Osbourne eventually coach Bow
Speaker 3: because they brought in a different He brought in his
Speaker 3: ad that he wanted.
Speaker 1: That ad pushes out. Coach Bow brings in the coach
Speaker 1: he wanted.
Speaker 3: While that coach, Coach Riley's in there, that ad gets
Speaker 3: pushed out, a new AD comes in, like trev Alberts
Speaker 3: came in a couple of years ago, Walle Coach Fross
Speaker 3: was the wald Coach Fross was the head coach, not
Speaker 3: that he didn't want coach Frost to win. But again,
Speaker 3: like you have everybody that's sit in the room, and
Speaker 3: we just hired the president, mister Ted Carter. Phenomenal resume,
Speaker 3: Look him up, Google him. He's a stud. They just
Speaker 3: hired him last year. So everybody is now the number
Speaker 3: one priority, not the number one I'm saying this because
Speaker 3: I'm biased of the football program, but everybody knows the
Speaker 3: priority that it is to bring the Nebraska football back
Speaker 3: to where it has been in the past. I'm not
Speaker 3: sitting here talking about nineties and Natties and everything thing else,
Speaker 3: but just being competitive and not being the fucking doormat
Speaker 3: of a conference. And I feel like it takes a
Speaker 3: higher and scanning through and thumbing through being like, we
Speaker 3: got to find a coach who can coach ball build culture.
Speaker 3: And I feel like we found that in coach Rule
Speaker 3: because you look at his history we were talking about
Speaker 3: on the phone, it's history of Baylor. I want to say,
Speaker 3: his first year, they start off one and eleven. Next
Speaker 3: year they were about five hundred, and then the year
Speaker 3: after that they're eleven and one. You go back to Temple,
Speaker 3: they start off kind of the same situation. One a
Speaker 3: game or two or three the first year. After that,
Speaker 3: you know, they're about a five hundred team, and then
Speaker 3: after that they're ten and four, eleven and four eleven
Speaker 3: and three whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But that right there shows you.
Speaker 3: And then you know not to you know, not to
Speaker 3: quote a mirror, but obviously I'm talking about this stuff
Speaker 3: that a mirror sad mirrors. Like this dude is. He's
Speaker 3: a he's gonna build culture, he's gonna build discipline. The
Speaker 3: guys who are who don't buy in, Like from his
Speaker 3: experience on Carolina, he kind of weeds those guys out
Speaker 3: because he's so big on culture and buying into the
Speaker 3: traditions and everything else. So I'm fired up because again
Speaker 3: I feel like Trev Alberts take card the chancellor. I'm
Speaker 3: Jonah Blank to his name. But again, they're sitting there.
Speaker 3: I trust them, I trust their leadership. We got to
Speaker 3: sit in the box with the president, we got to
Speaker 3: meet the president. Obviously we already knew Trev. But it
Speaker 3: was like, you can tell, like they they know what
Speaker 3: I feel like, they know what they're doing and I
Speaker 3: trust them. And if that's who they feel like the
Speaker 3: guy is, that's my fucking guy, dude.
Speaker 1: And I'm fired up about it. I really am.
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, again, there's gonna be a
Speaker 3: there's gonna be an article in a news There's gonna
Speaker 3: be something media related probably every day until Nebraska kicks off,
Speaker 3: because that's just how Nebraska football is. The expectation is
Speaker 3: gonna be extremely high, probably too high at first, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I love how.
Speaker 1: We're starting off with hiring coach rule and.
Speaker 2: If you look at his resume with like you're saying,
Speaker 2: Baylor and Temple, Temple, well how it started, it just
Speaker 2: progressively got better. We're not expecting I'm not sitting here
Speaker 2: expecting Nebraska all of a sudden flipp it around and
Speaker 2: go twelve to zero next year. But They're gonna get
Speaker 2: better and better and better each year. I fully expect
Speaker 2: three four years from now, as long as they stay
Speaker 2: true to matt rule and they let him have the
Speaker 2: reins and do what he's gonna do based on his
Speaker 2: experience and what he's done, I expect Nebraska to be
Speaker 2: back in a big way in half a decade.
Speaker 3: And you know, like that's what he's gonna get to
Speaker 3: do because he's signed an eight year deal, which is massive.
Speaker 1: By the way, It's like, oh, I mean, is that
Speaker 1: if you give his other bags back for this bag?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It seems like it's like eight years. It's like, is
Speaker 3: that the right thing to do? Like give a coach
Speaker 3: eight years worth? But again talking about it too, like
Speaker 3: if you're a head coach, everybody talks about how non
Speaker 3: desira or undesirable the job is because how hard it
Speaker 3: is to recruit, the expectation level, YadA, YadA, YadA. Again,
Speaker 3: he's coming in with a group that picked him together,
Speaker 3: pushing the wagon the same way, and he's not gonna
Speaker 3: have to be a coach. It's like, who am I
Speaker 3: gonna have to please while I'm here? Like, oh shit,
Speaker 3: they brought it in a new ad. They brought it in,
Speaker 3: a new chancellor, a new president. Like who's asked, am
Speaker 3: I gonna have to kiss? He knows he's their guy
Speaker 3: and he's gonna get to work. You said half a decade,
Speaker 3: we're gonna be back, no question, in two years.
Speaker 1: I love that, and I hope you're right.
Speaker 3: I know you're not meaning anything malicious, but no, no, no,
Speaker 3: it wasn't mean anything with me up. I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: if it takes half a decade, like five years, will
Speaker 3: I don't think almost forty? Yeah, like I think next
Speaker 3: year we're we're I want to temper my expectations. I
Speaker 3: do think we're winning eight games. I think you guys
Speaker 3: are above five hundred. Okay, that's that's fair. We're going
Speaker 3: bowling is it is bowling six games?
Speaker 1: That's five hundred.
Speaker 3: Without pulling up the schedule. We won't do that whole thing.
Speaker 3: That's that is in due time. That is in due time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we thought, hey all that.
Speaker 1: Man, hey, we gotta get coach rule on board with
Speaker 1: the bus and bowl.
Speaker 2: And listen if you're if your coach rule and you're thinking, okay,
Speaker 2: knowing what I have done in the past, how long
Speaker 2: it takes. How do I get people excited about them?
Speaker 1: Now? How do I fast track? How do I fast
Speaker 1: track the excitement for now?
Speaker 2: Well, if you do pull if you do pull up
Speaker 2: the record, the what the schedule from next year? Minnesota
Speaker 2: first game, that's gonna.
Speaker 3: Tell you a lot of conference games out of the gate.
Speaker 3: That's a tough team. Now that's a w But that's
Speaker 3: a tough team. That's good.
Speaker 1: Is it too? Out of the thought? It was Minnesota,
Speaker 1: a couple of whatever, and then Michigan.
Speaker 3: I think it's two conference games out of the gate.
Speaker 3: I guess we're doing this now, you got to pull
Speaker 3: it up.
Speaker 1: Just for clarity. I will not give will not give
Speaker 1: the result of the game. But we're starting off four
Speaker 1: and oh, I'm looking at.
Speaker 3: This skitter right now, I'm look at this guess right now,
Speaker 3: we're starting off four and oh with the bust and.
Speaker 1: Bowl on September thirtieth, I'm fired up about it. Boys,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be huge.
Speaker 2: But yeaha Minnesota, Minnesota, Colorado Boulder those Hey, those boys
Speaker 2: are too hot to play ball. They ain't got to
Speaker 2: going there. Northern Northern Illinois. They're the mac right, They're
Speaker 2: pretty good team in the mac that's a dumb Louisiana Tech.
Speaker 2: They're not going to be able to come in Nebraska
Speaker 2: country and be able to handle that kind of business.
Speaker 1: I fully expect a lot of times Nebraska to be
Speaker 1: four and oh going to the fucking Busting Bowl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if Matt, if you want to get people excited
Speaker 1: about this season, you being here, you're right until he
Speaker 1: gives us the coach rule. If you want to get
Speaker 1: people excited about this season and things going on you
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, people start to talk. Yeah, all right, Colorado
Speaker 1: comes in back twelve team but still a Power five conference.
Speaker 2: You win that one. Now there's murmurs going on. You
Speaker 2: signed this piece of paper. In the spring, when we
Speaker 2: come in for the bust and Bowl, people are literally
Speaker 2: gonna be saying, holy shit, we could win that this year.
Speaker 2: And if he wins the bust and Bowl, if he
Speaker 2: wins the bust and Bowl in his first year, Nebraska
Speaker 2: will be back.
Speaker 1: Well. If he wins the defending national championship team, he's
Speaker 1: the defending national champion team.
Speaker 3: I mean literally, last year we were three points off
Speaker 3: and some people say the rest told that game. Some people,
Speaker 3: some people do. We won't talk about that yeah, guys
Speaker 3: whooped our ass this year.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. It is what it is. Yes,
Speaker 1: I wish Jack was here. I know me too. You
Speaker 1: know why he's not here though, because he doesn't want
Speaker 1: the smoke. He doesn't want to smoke. He doesn't want
Speaker 1: to smoke. But hey, brother, congratulations South Carolina. Like they
Speaker 1: really pissed.
Speaker 3: Me off when they lost to MISSOI you know that,
Speaker 3: you saw the emotion when that happened. I was really
Speaker 3: on their wagon before that, the bandwagon with them before that,
Speaker 3: trying to be like, hey, you got a good ball club.
Speaker 3: Why are you feeling that way. I'll let you explain yourself.
Speaker 3: But the way you guys have finished the year. I
Speaker 3: saw the article you commented another two that was posted
Speaker 3: on barstool. Is South Carolina the best team in the
Speaker 3: country that nobody knew about late in the year.
Speaker 5: If this is March madness, were the hottest team and
Speaker 5: we're gonna make a run. But it's not March madness.
Speaker 5: Is this my turn to speak on South.
Speaker 1: This is your platform.
Speaker 5: How you felt after the Missouri game is how we
Speaker 5: felt for the last seven years. Seven years ago, it
Speaker 5: was dark. We were coming off eleven and two win seasons.
Speaker 5: Then we go seven and six. Spurrier built everything, he
Speaker 5: gave us a name. Third week into the twenty fifteen season,
Speaker 5: Spurger leaves us dark. We go three and whatever, three
Speaker 5: and nine. We're like, all right, who were hiring? There's
Speaker 5: rumors we're gonna hire rich, We're gonna hire whoever. We
Speaker 5: get embarrassed. None of those coaches come. We hire Musshamp.
Speaker 5: We're like, oh, man, we see Mushhamp's resume. He comes in,
Speaker 5: takes us to a bowl game. Year one, lightness, creeping
Speaker 5: in year two, nine wins.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're.
Speaker 5: Coming back your three darkness. We just slowly declined, decline
Speaker 5: to climb. We have dogs, we have Debo, we have Hayden,
Speaker 5: we have Jave and Kim Law, we have j. C.
Speaker 1: Horn. But no wins. We leave, we lose.
Speaker 5: We're winning three games again. We're like, man, where are
Speaker 5: we gonna go from here? In twenty fifteen, while we
Speaker 5: were in the darkness, there was a young man by
Speaker 5: the name of Shane Beemer waiting for this moment. He
Speaker 5: was in South Carolina, whisperer in the light, and now
Speaker 5: he was at Oklahoma, prepping, prepping for the moment of
Speaker 5: this season.
Speaker 1: Hey, this season.
Speaker 5: Come on the beginning of the year, they're like, oh, no,
Speaker 5: Shane Beemer. Maybe he wasn't the guy. He heard it.
Speaker 5: He addressed hearing these rumors. Midway through, we get a
Speaker 5: big win over A and M. Beamer is our guy,
Speaker 5: South Carolina, We're coming back. Then Missouri happens. Oh no, hey,
Speaker 5: back against the wall. We were being written off. What's
Speaker 5: the record at this point where let's see Missouri we
Speaker 5: need to check. But this is like classic South Carolina.
Speaker 5: We beat A and M for the first time program history.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was mad at JP. I'm like, why are
Speaker 1: you not? Like I say, hey, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about this Missouri game? He's like, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, like, how are you not excited?
Speaker 3: Like they seem like they're a good fucking team, Like,
Speaker 3: why are you not excited?
Speaker 1: And then they did They lost to Miszoo. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you guys fucking suck.
Speaker 2: You could feel it in South Carolina during the Tennessee game.
Speaker 2: I think it was like four minutes left in the game.
Speaker 2: They're up like twenty eight points in the finished score
Speaker 2: a touchdown. You can feel see him go oh No,
Speaker 2: they're gonna go back, gonna happen again.
Speaker 5: But dude, we lose to Missouri, it's like, oh God,
Speaker 5: barely score any points. Then we go to Florida in
Speaker 5: the swamp, don't score an offensive touchdown. Our punter had
Speaker 5: the same amount of passing yards to Spencer Raller until
Speaker 5: like the fourth quarter of the game scored like nineteen
Speaker 5: combined points. Tennessee just when it's like everybody on college
Speaker 5: game Day picked Tennessee. What happened, Yeah, they're the five
Speaker 5: team of the country. Honestly hung a sixty burger on him.
Speaker 5: Shane Bieber didn't care they wrote him off. He didn't
Speaker 5: right back the next week.
Speaker 1: What they do. Everybody picks Clemson.
Speaker 5: Shane Bieber, he picked the game Cocks, he picked Spencer Rattler,
Speaker 5: he picked all of the boys and a going into
Speaker 5: next year, we should be favored to finish top two
Speaker 5: or three in the SEC and the game Cocks are back.
Speaker 5: What do you feel like that depends on like Rattler staying, yeah,
Speaker 5: we definitely need Ralliers stay. And I think they've just
Speaker 5: have given a confidence to the team that like we
Speaker 5: haven't had, like guys saying they're going to drop their
Speaker 5: nuts on on dudes. That was like Spurriers teams DJ swearingery.
Speaker 1: So I go, I go.
Speaker 5: And now we're saying we're gonna drop our nuts and
Speaker 5: like that's a good sign the goons are coming back.
Speaker 1: You need the goons duns.
Speaker 2: So you you think Rattler has the opportunity to leave
Speaker 2: when your punter is the only person to score points
Speaker 2: and against Florida, like his last two games have been incredible.
Speaker 1: No, I'm with you. There's just like you know, we're actually.
Speaker 3: Saying that too, like media, like, yeah, people are talking
Speaker 3: about him potentially like leaving.
Speaker 1: I have no clue what's he going to be draft?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I don't know what the quarterback draft class
Speaker 5: looks like this year compared to what it would be
Speaker 5: next year. Yeah, and like he's a good combine guy,
Speaker 5: like he has a strong armies, fast whatever. But I mean,
Speaker 5: if he stays another year and has a year similar
Speaker 5: to these last two weeks, it could be a top
Speaker 5: round draft choice.
Speaker 3: I like their colors. I like the logo. I like
Speaker 3: the camp I love the logo. It seems like the game,
Speaker 3: the atmosphere. You guys were there and could talk about
Speaker 3: it but yeah, I mean it just seems like a
Speaker 3: play where it's cool when they're doing well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think SEC dominates the Bay ten and when
Speaker 2: it goes to college atmospheres, yeah, which is unfortunate, Yeah
Speaker 2: it is. But there's just things they got to change
Speaker 2: a little bit, like when you roll Sandstorm out. I
Speaker 2: heard that fucking song eight times in that game and
Speaker 2: the lights flashing people like it was. It was pretty insane,
Speaker 2: And it's not like at the moment it was like
Speaker 2: South Carolina is a middle tier at best SEC school
Speaker 2: and I was seeing that kind of atmosphere at the
Speaker 2: end of the year. It's tough to think that there's
Speaker 2: a place in the Big ten that's gonna be like
Speaker 2: has that atmosphere Michigan amazingly Bake Stadium you can fit
Speaker 2: at more than anybody else.
Speaker 1: It's quiet.
Speaker 2: They gotta figure out a way to They got to
Speaker 2: take out those stands and put in aluminum stands like
Speaker 2: Washington does and Seattle does. Like get the echo going
Speaker 2: in there, close up, make those suites, close those things up,
Speaker 2: even if it's just metal. Just close the thing up
Speaker 2: and funnel that shit down. You get one hundred and
Speaker 2: fiften thousand people going in there. Finally it's gonna get loud,
Speaker 2: but you got to figure out ways to start making
Speaker 2: sure that loudness goes onto the field. Because South Carolina ripped,
Speaker 2: they were good. They were getting after it.
Speaker 1: Dude. It was cool. It was a very cool situation.
Speaker 3: One thing that we do have to hit on the
Speaker 3: Black Friday sale, as Fletely murdered, like the fact that
Speaker 3: we have a matter of fact, we do need to
Speaker 3: DM that dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been messaging with him due this said he
Speaker 1: spent eight hundred something.
Speaker 3: We had the double receipt. Yeah, tried to get tried
Speaker 3: to get that four spot. I mean I think we
Speaker 3: got enough for five of them.
Speaker 1: I saw the other d be like, hey, you can
Speaker 1: just have the four spots all day. I saw that.
Speaker 1: But the fact that we had we've like, I mean,
Speaker 1: there was like ten thousand dollars spent between like four
Speaker 1: or five people.
Speaker 4: And the top three, top three people, the top three
Speaker 4: people spent over eleven thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: That's nuts, man, that's incredible crazy. The tier ones are
Speaker 1: the tier ones are them. We've moved like we've moved
Speaker 1: thousands of units and that is nuts, bro.
Speaker 3: Thank you to everybody who shops and like, yeah, the
Speaker 3: sales over, but we have a shitload of inventory still
Speaker 3: left with all the new items, Like we had twenty
Speaker 3: three new items, Like this was a massive drop, I know,
Speaker 3: and we were all like kind of nervous on your people,
Speaker 3: but we almost have too much. Like I think our
Speaker 3: shit's the best shit. Yeah, there's so many things to
Speaker 3: pick one from. You can't just sit there and dial
Speaker 3: in on like what our ballpark is. Like we have
Speaker 3: the lightning teas you want, like I want to sit
Speaker 3: there and have a post about the diamond hats. Those
Speaker 3: are like the best sellers. You still got the old
Speaker 3: pocket teas, the the with the logo, the bowt tie logo. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that one back there. They're kind of the girl that
Speaker 3: stuff the lightning teas, the just the collab with with Legends,
Speaker 3: the clab with Seeger that has a few units.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like it's so tough to keep up with to.
Speaker 3: Where you're like, man, it would be nice if we
Speaker 3: could just focus on a couple of things, but there's
Speaker 3: so much shit. But as always, the fucking tier ones
Speaker 3: and the people that are for the boys showed out.
Speaker 2: They really did did It was incredible to see that happen,
Speaker 2: and I was I was extremely nervous with twenty three
Speaker 2: new units coming in right before Black Friday. But it
Speaker 2: seems like there's a lot of people doing their entire
Speaker 2: closet because those things are moving like crazy. We can't
Speaker 2: think you guys enough for what you guys have done
Speaker 2: for us to keep this thing going. When you guys
Speaker 2: do that, we're paying salaries here, we're paying for doing
Speaker 2: more spring football tour stuff, doing more fall to he stuff,
Speaker 2: giving you guys more content. And it's our way of
Speaker 2: saying thank you, We're gonna do something special. We say
Speaker 2: it every time.
Speaker 3: I mean we were always going to be doing give
Speaker 3: ways and ship Yeah, but on the whole redoing the closet,
Speaker 3: Like when I loaded up the Chevy to drive down
Speaker 3: to Atlanta, I just took the box of like all
Speaker 3: of our new stuff from our shoot. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna wear all this ship looks hard bottoms, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we do we have anything you own?
Speaker 1: You owned two pairs of pants.
Speaker 3: Yeah I know I and they're black too. Yeah, I've
Speaker 3: won these pants three days in a row.
Speaker 1: It's all good. Like we should we should get like
Speaker 1: sweats or something, but it was a couple bottoms and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm ready to get just throw it
Speaker 1: in the truck and roll.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I legit is it is an incredible thing with
Speaker 2: Black Frida, I do they They really showed out in
Speaker 2: a heavy way and that was that's unbelievable. Do we
Speaker 2: can't think you guys enough. You brought up a little
Speaker 2: point right there that I do want to knock on
Speaker 2: year ten. A lot of people are wondering what's going
Speaker 2: on with your ten? Yeah, And I don't know how
Speaker 2: much you can or cannot say right now, but if
Speaker 2: you can give the people a nugget so they can
Speaker 2: feel a little better or a little worse, or at
Speaker 2: least they have some sort of clarity on their feelings.
Speaker 2: That way they can go to bed tonight thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: no matter what will comp's going to be all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I see everybody asking what's going on.
Speaker 3: I would hope everybody understands when I'm not saying a
Speaker 3: whole lot that they just know because usually I'm a
Speaker 3: guy who puts everything out. Yeah, I talk about everything.
Speaker 3: I take everybody on the story, all that stuff, All
Speaker 3: that stuff is still happening. As far as like remembering stuff,
Speaker 3: I will be sharing it like in due time, but
Speaker 3: like right now. Essentially, I drove down Tuesday morning at
Speaker 3: four am, got a physical, took like ten seconds. Hey,
Speaker 3: have you gotten injured since you were last year?
Speaker 1: No, you go up.
Speaker 3: There's contract stuff getting sorted out that I can't talk
Speaker 3: about right now, but I will be able to in
Speaker 3: the future. Everybody listening to this right now, it's Tuesday.
Speaker 3: We're sitting here Sunday night because we're going to New
Speaker 3: York to do the telethon.
Speaker 1: We're going Who knows what's.
Speaker 3: Gonna happen tomorrow with any of the contract stuff that's
Speaker 3: going on that could get the stuff could get figured
Speaker 3: out by the time you listen to this. But if
Speaker 3: you're listening to this and nothing's.
Speaker 1: Happened yet, like you know, in due time, there'll be
Speaker 1: a time and a place for all that. But just
Speaker 1: know your ten is alive and well. And let's just I.
Speaker 3: Was telling you because we had a we had a
Speaker 3: good conversation on my drive down. It was like early
Speaker 3: you were up dooing your thing early in the morning
Speaker 3: and you're like, bro, how do you feel about everything?
Speaker 3: Like in this wild and it was just insane that
Speaker 3: everything has kind of just like came full circle and
Speaker 3: it's all happened, and the opportunities happen, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned, your ten's happened, Like I
Speaker 3: got the call to go out there and sign whether
Speaker 3: or not we get something to figure out. Everybody's optimistic,
Speaker 3: we all feel like there's gonna be a solution, but
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's just it's insane
Speaker 3: that this has came all the way around, and year
Speaker 3: ten has been manifested by talking about it all year long.
Speaker 2: Incredible, and there is a part of every NFL athlete
Speaker 2: that's like, I just want to go out on my
Speaker 2: own terms. I don't want people to say I'm done.
Speaker 2: I want to be able to say I'm done. Not
Speaker 2: saying your tend's the end of Will Compton. I'm saying,
Speaker 2: if Will Compton chose for your tend to be the
Speaker 2: end of Will Compton, he's making the choice, not somebody's
Speaker 2: making the choice for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah to that, sir, I appreciate it. That's inactible, same handshake.
Speaker 3: You did, the exact same thing. What was it the
Speaker 3: Raiders when they offered me when I ended up playing
Speaker 3: for the Titans. Was it twenty twenty it was going
Speaker 3: to twenty nineteen because twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen I went
Speaker 3: to the Raiders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but twenty eighteen, I remember sitting. We were in
Speaker 2: my driveway talking. We're talking about football, how much we're
Speaker 2: doing the class of conversation, how much long do.
Speaker 1: You want to play?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: I don't I want to play seven more years? How many?
Speaker 2: How long do you want to play? And you were,
Speaker 2: I don't know how much you want me to go
Speaker 2: into this? You know the conversation, right, yeah, I don't mind.
Speaker 1: That was yeah you wears ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were like, I think I want to be done.
Speaker 2: I think I think I'm over it. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I want to do this anymore.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. And then we had that conversation like
Speaker 1: I love busting. Yeah, yeah, I love everything. I'm there.
Speaker 2: We could, yes, but there was like also that point
Speaker 2: where you could see it affect you, and it would
Speaker 2: affect me if I had to walk away by someone
Speaker 2: making me walk away there, like it'd be nice to
Speaker 2: go out my own terms. And every single year since then,
Speaker 2: you've been able to do that and that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just funny. You think about like each year
Speaker 3: there's been a conversation. I remember it's the COVID year
Speaker 3: and we were playing spike ball. Yeah, and the Raiders
Speaker 3: had offered that minimum deal and you're like, hey, you
Speaker 3: can say no, right, you can say know what me done?
Speaker 1: You got it? You got an offer. You no time,
Speaker 1: you've got an offer. Conversation.
Speaker 2: I've literally said to you, congrats, no, now you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Love over again.
Speaker 3: Then later in August that you have face time and
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, guess what You're like, you're fucking lying.
Speaker 1: I'm like very able to dude. That was the most
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 2: I was pulling into Oku Sushi to pick up something
Speaker 2: during camp and you call him and you're like, hey,
Speaker 2: you want to be teammates.
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, You're like, you're lying.
Speaker 2: Bro, du that was the most insane ship. When I
Speaker 2: heard that, that was crazy. Then I had to go
Speaker 2: be a little bitch on my right knee and get
Speaker 2: my acl torn. We could have hung out the whole year,
Speaker 2: I know, I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we were we started off like seven and
Speaker 3: oh remember we started off five and oh yes.
Speaker 1: Beating on Buffalo was brought to you by Zoom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we practiced for like what nine days straight. We had
Speaker 1: to plan on Tuesdays. They like they pushed the game,
Speaker 1: they delayed the game. Then they were.
Speaker 2: Supposed to play the Steelers. Supposed to have a bye week. No, no,
Speaker 2: we were supposed to play the Steelers. So we're planning
Speaker 2: for the Steelers and then they like because what we
Speaker 2: had more and more COVID, they were like, this is
Speaker 2: your grasses bye week. So we like kind of practice
Speaker 2: did in practice?
Speaker 1: That suck? Yeah? That They're like, they took away our
Speaker 1: bye week. They moved the Steelers to.
Speaker 2: What our bye week was going to be, and they're like,
Speaker 2: you guys are playing the Bills in four days or
Speaker 2: whatever it was.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that that exact time.
Speaker 2: And literally I'm at my house in my dining room
Speaker 2: on a Zoom call going over what the Bills do,
Speaker 2: and we literally were getting ready for practice from me
Speaker 2: to JP. That's how the closest player was masks on,
Speaker 2: triple masks, fucking helmet has matt suits, talking into practice,
Speaker 2: going We're gonna get our fucking asses kicked this week
Speaker 2: because the Bills are still practicing.
Speaker 1: They were still practicing and doing their old thing, and
Speaker 1: all we did was prove that you don't have to
Speaker 1: practice in the NFL. We were so far up, We're like, yo,
Speaker 1: we don't have to ever practice. Yeah, we want like
Speaker 1: forty two whatever, it was forty two, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: think they score two touchdowns, did they? It was like
Speaker 1: forty two to thirteen. Josh Allen had like two picks.
Speaker 1: It was awesome.
Speaker 2: We were going crazy because before that game, we're like,
Speaker 2: it's either gonna be a close game or we're gonna
Speaker 2: get our asses beat.
Speaker 3: Because we would do these zoom meetings and you're like, man,
Speaker 3: let's get the zoom meeting over with because you would
Speaker 3: like they'd be like, well, hopefully you guys go out
Speaker 3: and do something outside, because they couldn't.
Speaker 1: They couldn't make us do anything.
Speaker 3: So you're kind of having all these off days and
Speaker 3: for all off because he's he's staying at home and Jen.
Speaker 3: He's like joking on Jenny's like I think she burnt
Speaker 3: a fucking pizza. Hear the fire alarm going off, like.
Speaker 2: We alarms going off and ship and Bray was just
Speaker 2: getting madder and madder about all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah that he has to be home, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm na place. It doesn't fucking matter. We're gonna show
Speaker 3: up and we're gonna beat some ass.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: Do you remember when Also, like all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: we got a massive out of trouble for practicing, Like
Speaker 2: the guys were practicing on some sort of weird practice
Speaker 2: like high school field.
Speaker 1: Each position group was going to like different parks around the.
Speaker 2: Different parks around the city, like the old line was
Speaker 2: on like a grass field and lipscom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were at some nearby parking.
Speaker 3: It's just us, five linebackers, and we were doing our
Speaker 3: individual and just going over tips, tips that we had learned,
Speaker 3: just learned on a zoom call, like hey, try to
Speaker 3: go over these formations or try to go over these plays.
Speaker 1: And there's five of us we're trying to like line up,
Speaker 1: no plan, no no plan.
Speaker 2: That's how me, Ben Jones and Rogerstaffel were like, all right,
Speaker 2: I guess we'll lead this thing. And then we're like,
Speaker 2: what do you guys want to do? Like we stretched,
Speaker 2: You're like all right, jone right, all right.
Speaker 1: Zone left a couple of passet's boys, Like we didn't like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck are we gonna do?
Speaker 3: And then somebody like take a photo or like talk
Speaker 3: about it, and you ended up getting in trouble. We
Speaker 3: ended up getting in trouble again because they're like, they
Speaker 3: shouldn't be holding yeah practices with each other, so they're defeating.
Speaker 1: The purpose of being separated.
Speaker 2: And then they come to find out that every and
Speaker 2: then they started watching our security cameras and they're like,
Speaker 2: we'll see if these guys are really wearing their masks
Speaker 2: or not. So then buttholes are super tight. When you
Speaker 2: get back at the building, you're walking around with the
Speaker 2: tip of your nose showing out. You're getting a couple
Speaker 2: of last year, you're getting verbally assaulted, rightfully, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, because buttoles were tight.
Speaker 3: Say we get coffee, we walk in, we'd have a
Speaker 3: mess down because you're used to just talking. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: you're like, okay, as long as i'm drinking or holding
Speaker 3: the drink, you can have your mask down.
Speaker 1: So everybody, we always got the right wing guy on
Speaker 1: a I'd be right there, hold my cup and my
Speaker 1: mask would be down a little bit, one pretzel in
Speaker 1: his hand, just the kind of holding out to his mouth.
Speaker 3: Get investigator investigated. Bro, it was fucking tubs everything. You're showered, Hey,
Speaker 3: put your fucking mask on, right, And they're like, all right,
Speaker 3: you dude.
Speaker 2: I remember Paul Kaharski and Buck Rising like texting me
Speaker 2: and being like, you guys are about to get the
Speaker 2: hammer dropped on you.
Speaker 1: You wanted the hammer. Paul wants chaos, dude.
Speaker 2: He's he's the joker in a non cool way, like
Speaker 2: he wanted all that ship to go down. Then before
Speaker 2: they started to penalize us, they start looking at everybody else.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, we can't do shit about the Titans.
Speaker 2: Everybody like people were way worse.
Speaker 1: Than started to Domino Fixer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, though, it was wild and we just happen to
Speaker 2: be the first patient zero.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had to get the example made of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sucked, But that was fucking a nice little rundown
Speaker 2: memory Lane, dude, that was a cool. Dude speaking of
Speaker 2: the Titans, dude, what a fucking bullshit call. It's Sunday night,
Speaker 2: the game was played five six hours ago.
Speaker 1: That is crazy. Yeah, they're going to call strong on that.
Speaker 1: That is one of those plays. Yes, it's against the rules.
Speaker 1: So all these Bengal fans that are watching this, I
Speaker 1: know you're watching. When you're watching. Oh, it's been it's
Speaker 1: been a rule forever. They all they're like, hey, that's
Speaker 1: a rule, dude, that is a rule that you that
Speaker 1: happens and they say, hey, don't do that again. They
Speaker 1: give a warning to the coaching staff.
Speaker 3: I know, bro, it's just when you just see them
Speaker 3: fucking refs rip the flag the thoughts so high in.
Speaker 1: The air, yeah, and change the game at the towards
Speaker 1: the end.
Speaker 3: It just so stupid, Like to me, the long snapper
Speaker 3: sold it a little bit. They was going through the
Speaker 3: inside shoulder, the inside the head. Yeah, he wasn't on
Speaker 3: his head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going through the inside via a couple of
Speaker 1: them more hitting old boy and they lock and he
Speaker 1: just fucking Academy Award winner.
Speaker 2: They're bringing up here tart to listen, it's a v
Speaker 2: technique that is a legal play. Even if it's not
Speaker 2: a legal play, this ref should have gone over and
Speaker 2: say you can't do.
Speaker 1: That hard, Like why through the flag that hard? Dude?
Speaker 2: Come on, bro that the flop tech dude might be
Speaker 2: mad at us talking about this right now, but hey,
Speaker 2: we're the ones that are fighting the fight for you,
Speaker 2: right now we're doing what you can't, Bud. That is
Speaker 2: fucking ridiculous that that.
Speaker 1: All that the game was over. They literally just took
Speaker 1: a knee after that. Yeah, I know that kind of
Speaker 1: ruined the game. It's a minute fifty a minute forty three.
Speaker 3: It's hard for It's hard for Tart because Tart is
Speaker 3: getting a little more head up like Strong wasn't. I
Speaker 3: thought Strong was completely fine by what he was doing.
Speaker 3: I just felt like Tart did go a little more center. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, look at Strong, he's
Speaker 3: going to the inside v you look at Tart. Tart
Speaker 3: goes right to him. I think the long snepper flops.
Speaker 3: It is what it is like. You never want to
Speaker 3: leave it into the hands buddy, the refs. You're gonna
Speaker 3: say all the round, all the right things. At the
Speaker 3: end of the day, it's never one play, it's never
Speaker 3: one drive, it's never this is never that. But it
Speaker 3: just sucked that a football game like that, the match
Speaker 3: of the Bengals and the Titans, everything that happened last year.
Speaker 3: Both teams are hot, both teams are playing well. That
Speaker 3: that's how it ended. That's what sucks about that. That's
Speaker 3: just crazy. Dude that I loved the old lineman on
Speaker 3: his way out.
Speaker 1: Did you see the video he's saying, fuck the Titans Tennessee. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: what exactly what was he's saying? But it kind of
Speaker 1: fired me up.
Speaker 3: It was like a little w W promos Like, I
Speaker 3: hate that he's doing it to Tennessee fans.
Speaker 1: I love what this guy. I agree with everything he
Speaker 1: just said. I agree with that.
Speaker 2: It's if you're a Bengals fan watching that, that shit's cool.
Speaker 1: It's uses you to put that in his roll of
Speaker 1: deex of look what I did get fucked bad bodyballer
Speaker 1: dude paras shoving up yours Tennessee points to somebody, fuck
Speaker 1: you like that is iconic. I hate that. I love that.
Speaker 3: The Nissan good for him, I know. Yeah, oh man,
Speaker 3: I'm out there. I'm adding that to my bag.
Speaker 1: But that's it. That's iconic. That's an iconic move by him.
Speaker 1: Hey you yes, dude? Oh is that the equipment manager? Dude?
Speaker 1: That was bullshit? You have a minute fifty lefs at
Speaker 1: the clock.
Speaker 2: The way Tannhill throwing the ball to on a bum ankle,
Speaker 2: they could have won that game.
Speaker 3: Well if if from this about trailing Burk's too. What
Speaker 3: a game he had he ever plays the big time catches. Yes,
Speaker 3: catching the ball, he bawled out.
Speaker 2: He's coming along because he did it in the last
Speaker 2: game to recover the thumb. Recover for the touchdown.
Speaker 1: Dude. Yeah, and not to not to be weird, but
Speaker 1: decent looking cat beautiful eyes, great eyes. Yes, No, I'm
Speaker 1: with you, dude may Yeah, you see the show.
Speaker 2: You see him when he got drafted. He had the
Speaker 2: cowboy boots on, the shirt tucked in and everything. Oh,
Speaker 2: he's way way different.
Speaker 1: Than a ja. Yeah, I find myself a look major
Speaker 1: you have that. You have to if you're a fan,
Speaker 1: you're like, we traded this guy, that we drafted this guy,
Speaker 1: like that's just gonna happen myself clicking on his press
Speaker 1: conference videos not even to listen to what he's saying,
Speaker 1: but he slays with them eyes now you can look
Speaker 1: at their head.
Speaker 2: On the bus he can get he will absolutely come
Speaker 2: on the bus, did you Yeah, we need to get
Speaker 2: him on here.
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Speaker 3: You see uh d Lineman custs out Russell Wilson, Oh
Speaker 3: my something, Russell Wilson. I don't really know what the
Speaker 3: exchange was, but just seeing the reaction, Yeah, these boys
Speaker 3: are feather.
Speaker 2: They're over him. They are so over Russell Wilson. I
Speaker 2: think someone tweeted that this is going to go down
Speaker 2: as the.
Speaker 1: Worst trade of NFL history potentially.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, look at look at that money
Speaker 3: going like and drop that happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I'm gonna switch up like go in. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's probably saying, hey, jog off the field, but he's
Speaker 1: saying run off the field.
Speaker 2: No, he's probably just saying believe in me. He's probably
Speaker 2: what the fuck he was saying?
Speaker 1: The fuck up? Yeah, shut the fuck off.
Speaker 2: Buddy, that is I mean, and watch Russell kind of
Speaker 2: quiver at the end too.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, I got you man, I got you man.
Speaker 1: As what we say right there? I got you man.
Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you do in that situation?
Speaker 3: I don't know what Russ said, but if that dude
Speaker 3: comes back at you, you're kind of like, oh shit,
Speaker 3: I'm a little embarrassed right now.
Speaker 1: Everybody's kind of just seeing, like go down. All right, brother,
Speaker 1: I got you. Take it easy.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like this is not a shot,
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, But you have to be delusional right now
Speaker 2: in your life.
Speaker 1: It's a shot. I feel like that's a shot. What
Speaker 1: do you mean It's not a shot, dude, It's just
Speaker 1: a reality situation.
Speaker 2: He's not playing well, and it's not like I'm coming
Speaker 2: out I'm saying I'd be a better quarterback.
Speaker 1: But like, so that was just funny right there. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to take a shot out Russell Wilson here,
Speaker 1: but I think you're pretty delusional. No, he needs to
Speaker 1: be delusional his life.
Speaker 3: You have to be delusional. Oh, you're saying he has
Speaker 3: to be delusional to get it back.
Speaker 2: He has to be delusional to like be able to
Speaker 2: work through what's going on. All the heat that's on
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson right now, all the shit that guys have
Speaker 2: told us, Guys have texted us, someone that I know
Speaker 2: on the team, I've had a personal conversation with that.
Speaker 2: I've told you things about like he's gotta be delusional,
Speaker 2: that he's gotta literally look in the mirror and tell
Speaker 2: himself whatever he's got to tell himself to get through
Speaker 2: the situation. Get through it, and then unpack the trauma later,
Speaker 2: because right now you're in the thick of it. Let's
Speaker 2: get to the off season, let's unpack it. You're gonna
Speaker 2: be on the Broncos next year. No one's picking up
Speaker 2: that contract. No one's gonna trade for him, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like he's got to just put on
Speaker 2: a fake smile, you know that meme, the gift of
Speaker 2: the guy crying with the smiling mask. That's gotta be
Speaker 2: him for the next seven weeks of the season, or
Speaker 2: you just.
Speaker 3: Sleep well known you've secured the fattest of the bags.
Speaker 3: And not to mention Wisconsin hard Luke Fickle, Like that's
Speaker 3: gotta be exciting, Like you know, in the middle of
Speaker 3: this dumpster fire of a year, like, oh, Wisconsin, the Badgers,
Speaker 3: my second school picked up coach.
Speaker 2: P Yeah, I guess so I can talk about that.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. Dana Beers has got to be mad
Speaker 1: about that. He's gotta beat.
Speaker 3: The Cincinnati Bearcats logo on him legs, and I, you know,
Speaker 3: no like him, Like, yeah, you're rude for Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: I know it's more than just football, Like you got
Speaker 1: baskets of basketball school too, But like knowing you got
Speaker 1: coach Fickle there, he called them big Dick Fick.
Speaker 3: It's uh wow, that's gotta be shitty.
Speaker 1: Especially that's the worst heels than Russell's taking right now.
Speaker 1: A rattling off to in a row there at the
Speaker 1: end too. What idiot.
Speaker 3: He had it coming for him, though, he had it
Speaker 3: coming for him. Yeah, the way he's, the way he swung, dude,
Speaker 3: just not.
Speaker 2: I thought he was going Michigan State the whole time.
Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be Michigan State or South Carolina.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are good.
Speaker 3: Those are those are good because you got both football
Speaker 3: and basketball.
Speaker 2: And he even had a tweet that was like, I
Speaker 2: thought I had my pick after Michigan State, but South Carolina,
Speaker 2: you guys showed blah blah blah blah like it was.
Speaker 1: South Carolina good to basketball. Okay, I was talking. I
Speaker 1: was thinking Michigan State and Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: I thought, like, I thought Cincinnati had a shot just
Speaker 3: because they're in a ship conference with ball. They're gonna
Speaker 3: be solid with Luke Fickle there, but they're good at basketball.
Speaker 1: So I thought he was gonna go. Everything's on the
Speaker 1: up and up, everything's on the open up, hockey team's
Speaker 1: doing well. You guys are gonna be all right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what an idiot be? Yeah that's tough.
Speaker 2: I hope we could see him tomorrow, Jets. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was what was his name Mike Mason was his name,
Speaker 2: Mike White, Mike White, Lightning, Mike White. Dude, dude, if
Speaker 2: you're gotta watch out for the horny quarterbacks, they're gonna
Speaker 2: fuck you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna there's that's a tough dude. And I
Speaker 1: was hearing all those things in the officers, I'm like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this kid's not that scared BYU. Kid with all the
Speaker 1: guys doing the science, so he got like a little
Speaker 1: nervous of the draft thing. This guy's a fucking stud.
Speaker 1: He's taking down moms, not just moms. Mohm's are friends,
Speaker 1: he knows.
Speaker 3: And now this, yeah, I mean it's that's a tough look,
Speaker 3: especially like I know, there's like a little bit of
Speaker 3: a laundry list with him. I feel like it's not massive.
Speaker 3: But after that press conference he had last week when
Speaker 3: he took zero accountability, when he had an opportunity to
Speaker 3: be like, hey, we put up three points, I gotta
Speaker 3: bui able the defense out a little bit more, when
Speaker 3: he just said no, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: Feel like I could have. Well, what was the questions like,
Speaker 1: do you feel like you let the defense down? He's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: not at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's exactly kind of like, you know, touches. Do
Speaker 3: you just see the body language? You're like, bro, you're
Speaker 3: the quarterback. Dude, what's that dude?
Speaker 1: Booger, he had this whole long thing about how he
Speaker 1: he could be like an entitled Yeah, he's entitled.
Speaker 2: He came from Moneyball. But it's like, listen, that's that's
Speaker 2: a that's a terrible take. That was a bad take,
Speaker 2: Like he need to do a better job with that,
Speaker 2: But that benching was probably going to come regardless and
Speaker 2: the rest of that clib like Booger.
Speaker 1: Ends up talking about it.
Speaker 3: He's just trying to He's just I felt like he
Speaker 3: was trying to paint the picture on because again, you
Speaker 3: can justify and give background and context and story to
Speaker 3: literally anybody's decisions they've ever made in life.
Speaker 1: You go back for them, Oh that's why they did that.
Speaker 1: Let's empathize and justify it.
Speaker 3: It's like, no, not in not in the not in
Speaker 3: the league, not in the performance pace business, where you
Speaker 3: have to be you have to do certain things the
Speaker 3: right way or you are gonna get fucking get snipped.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 3: You can't just be making decisions like oh boy from
Speaker 3: Oregon just yopping that dude in the mouth after they go,
Speaker 3: what's with.
Speaker 1: Orgon guys here? Blunt? Yeah, state like what like ten
Speaker 1: twelve years ago. That's probably longer than that wasn't there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? At least there's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: some at least there's some back and forth probably going
Speaker 1: on in the game. Hey, Blunt fucking bitched his ass too.
Speaker 1: This is what Buddy the organ dude too. He threw
Speaker 1: a shot.
Speaker 2: He threw a shot, but you know it won, Like yeah,
Speaker 2: a sucker push. That dude was looking right in Blunt's
Speaker 2: eyes when he that d I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, and people are like, yeah, pep fans should
Speaker 3: be storming the field X, Y and Z after the game.
Speaker 3: It doesn't fucking matter, bro, when you're in that locker
Speaker 3: room and you're wearing the uniform and you're on a
Speaker 3: team and playing for a university like Oregon, really any university,
Speaker 3: like the fans in the the well, the fans and
Speaker 3: the people of the world are waiting for you to
Speaker 3: make a fucking mistake like that, right, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna say losers, but say that fan,
Speaker 3: like say you said some loser ass shit like that
Speaker 3: troll that is what they want to happen. They want
Speaker 3: you to fuck up and do that. There's only not
Speaker 3: doing nothing except hurting yourself. That's just the way it's
Speaker 3: gonna be for you. It doesn't matter what was said,
Speaker 3: You're just you're hurting yourself in the long run.
Speaker 1: Hey, there's one thing that fan could have said that
Speaker 1: is would make it justified for sure.
Speaker 3: For sure in the direct like you're letting all the
Speaker 3: emotion take over the the zoomed out version. It ain't
Speaker 3: worth hitting some fucking troll ass loser fan over that.
Speaker 3: It's not like I get that that is a bad
Speaker 3: fucking like you could say something that marks somebody off, like, no,
Speaker 3: you got to draw a line somewhere.
Speaker 1: I understand that. I'm just saying in the in the
Speaker 1: massive picture, say this guy, I don't know where he is,
Speaker 1: draft board league, he's a senior transfer from Miami stuff.
Speaker 1: I know that about him. I don't know the entire
Speaker 1: picture of like what his career and all that can
Speaker 1: shape up to be. But again, you let a loser
Speaker 1: motherfucker trigger you in that moment, Like I do. I
Speaker 1: do understand that. It's not like I'm trying to be
Speaker 1: like that. Doesn't fucking matter.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, in his best interest long term
Speaker 3: after that bigger picture, don't let a fucking loser drag
Speaker 3: you down to their depths like that.
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I literally had that same as that situation go down
Speaker 2: with me. Really what situation when that assault case I
Speaker 2: had going out of my senior year. We lost to
Speaker 2: Ohio State and these twenty nine year old kids were
Speaker 2: trying to beat up my brother, who is nineteen at time.
Speaker 2: I walked into a bar. My girlfriend at the time
Speaker 2: was like, hey, your bother. But again in the fight,
Speaker 2: I looked out and there's a four guys Ohio State
Speaker 2: and they're pushing my brother. I moved one kid to
Speaker 2: the side and yeah, yeah, well there was no it
Speaker 2: was just one bing and he this kid hit the
Speaker 2: ground so hard he spun in a circle and I
Speaker 2: was like, holy shit, I think I killed him.
Speaker 1: And I went and like and I'm sure when that happened, you're.
Speaker 2: Like, oh fuck, oh yeah, I thought I was like
Speaker 2: I should I why the fuck did I do that?
Speaker 2: But in your moment, I'm just thinking, hey, I gotta
Speaker 2: preg my brother, you know what I'm saying, And this guy.
Speaker 2: It's not like it's like it's different. It's a different
Speaker 2: situation for a couple of reasons. One, you just lost
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: I get it. That sucks. It's arrival. It's a civil war.
Speaker 2: But it's not like you're if you transfer from Miami,
Speaker 2: it's it's one year, Like you don't have loyalty to Orgon.
Speaker 1: Loyalty is really not like that. You know what I'm saying. Well,
Speaker 1: in the moment, he shouldn't have done that. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: should have done that.
Speaker 3: Thinking about yeah, like you said something to me and
Speaker 3: this is this is a no not this is a
Speaker 3: non negotiable for me personally. Yeah, which again, you can
Speaker 3: make a story and say enough to justify any action
Speaker 3: that you make. I didn't even think about that too, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: the stuff and then getting questioned in the combine, I'm
Speaker 3: sitting here saying a speech, you're just thinking, oh no.
Speaker 1: Because when you're sitting no, when you're but yeah, no,
Speaker 1: when you're saying that, literally, I'm trying to I feel
Speaker 1: like in that moment, trying to grab him back. What
Speaker 1: are you fucking doing?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 1: Right, we're in we're in public. We're in public right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like that dude is what are you doing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know you just no, I'm with you. I'm also
Speaker 1: thirty one years old now saying hey, absolutely, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: have done that. Like I can sit back making that
Speaker 1: mistake when I was younger looking at this kid, going, bro,
Speaker 1: you can't do that stuff if you have a future
Speaker 1: in the league.
Speaker 2: You just hurt yourself. You just took money away from yourself.
Speaker 2: That's a bad fucking deal. You shouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: But I was when I was speaking, it was speaking
Speaker 1: from the point of view of I've been him before,
Speaker 1: and I know what it's like.
Speaker 2: How you get your emotions. Your emotions get the best
Speaker 2: of you. You piece some kid up and it's like
Speaker 2: I fucking Then clarity hits ten seconds later. You walk
Speaker 2: in the locker room. You're like, oh, I'm such a
Speaker 2: fucking idiot.
Speaker 3: No question, and you see the coach grab him. It's
Speaker 3: just like, ah, God, damn it, dude, what are we doing?
Speaker 3: What are we doing with older yourself?
Speaker 2: He should have just fought a football player. He should
Speaker 2: have if he got in a fight with another Like
Speaker 2: Oregon State kid, it's like nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do it Like Michigan State, Like Michigan State, Michigan.
Speaker 3: You still can take one hundred of you and jump somebody.
Speaker 1: Holy shit. Oh that's jokes, man, that's just jokes. It's
Speaker 1: just jokes. Should we do uh, just so those guys
Speaker 1: should be arrested? Should we do a shout out? No
Speaker 1: free shoutout? Dude?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we're gonna do tier talk rivalry games and player.
Speaker 3: I know we're running on an hour right now. It's
Speaker 3: like we gotta get it fast. Do we tell the
Speaker 3: people we're not gonna have a tier talk today or
Speaker 3: do we do it quick tier talk because the tier
Speaker 3: talk is rivalry games in college football.
Speaker 1: I guess we could do Yeah, we could do that. Yes,
Speaker 1: we can make we can make it all quicker. The
Speaker 1: shout out, no free shoutout?
Speaker 2: Yeah, go around real quickly, shout out, no free shout out, Blossie,
Speaker 2: you got it, baby, mine take mine, don't take mine?
Speaker 1: My shout out. This week is gonna go to a
Speaker 1: game that just concluded.
Speaker 6: It's the number one defense in the NFL right now
Speaker 6: for second half shoutout one complete shutout, and that is
Speaker 6: Dimico Ryan's in the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: Here we go up there. It is there.
Speaker 4: It is there.
Speaker 1: It is that's off to the Niners, like they're ballingall
Speaker 1: you never sleep on the Niners. Don't ever sleep on
Speaker 1: the Niners.
Speaker 4: Mitchie goes to something we were talking about a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks ago. Uh, it's that holiday season now and
Speaker 4: typically near like in the end of the semester. This
Speaker 4: goes back to high school. Uh, it's those pizza parties
Speaker 4: you have in your one class. You know, you're going
Speaker 4: into that classic Oh we're not doing a thing that's
Speaker 4: really good, cool work today. It's like where we're just
Speaker 4: gonna chill, eat pizza, maybe throwing a TV, throwing a movie, yeah,
Speaker 4: and just have it.
Speaker 1: It's a good one.
Speaker 3: I thought the way you were saying it's getting to
Speaker 3: be that time of year, my shot up to pizza
Speaker 3: parties something.
Speaker 1: I thought he was like.
Speaker 2: I thought he was about going home and having a
Speaker 2: pizza party of his friends, right, But hey, you rounded
Speaker 2: it out well.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, yeah, and we're back master. You
Speaker 1: normally have like a half day or something like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna have pizza. Yeah yeah, hell yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: that's a hitter day. That's a hader day. JP cheese
Speaker 1: and sausage. You like that. Nic shout out, no free
Speaker 1: shoutout goes to.
Speaker 5: Tell them, kid the South Carolina game Cocks for being back,
Speaker 5: and shout out to our punter who saved the game
Speaker 5: for us. Also, this is still South Carolina because they
Speaker 5: brought it to me twice. Storm in the field, bro,
Speaker 5: you storm the field three times this year? You know
Speaker 5: who needs to watch out? Oh Roan and Caleb?
Speaker 1: Damn will.
Speaker 3: My shout out no free shoutout? Is it's getting to
Speaker 3: be that time of year where it's cold out. I'm
Speaker 3: somebody who leaves my water bottles in the car all
Speaker 3: the time, and now that it's getting cold out, you
Speaker 3: know you're gonna have a fresh cold water every day,
Speaker 3: a water bottles sitting there, maybe a few to pick from,
Speaker 3: a litter to pick from. Net water turns cold in
Speaker 3: the wintertime, and you know your girl, anybody who's like, yo,
Speaker 3: what do you carry all these water bottles? Now is
Speaker 3: the time of the year where're like, this is the
Speaker 3: fucking research carry these water bottles.
Speaker 1: Boys. So my shoutout goes to those water water bots
Speaker 1: that turn cold overnight. Hmm, that's outstanding. That is outstanding.
Speaker 1: Uh my shoutout.
Speaker 2: If you shout, I'm gonna keep a shortened suite goes
Speaker 2: to the future national champions in college football. I listen, dude,
Speaker 2: everybody times in a row Columbus, Ohio with a donkey
Speaker 2: stopping like that twenty two point differential in the score.
Speaker 2: I gotta give it to the boys in Blue, especially
Speaker 2: that offensive line that is literally going to win the
Speaker 2: More Award two years in a row.
Speaker 1: That is my shutout shout out the year of the year.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the year you guys end up winning the Natty,
Speaker 1: Like that's the shout out of the year.
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, so we're gonna we're gonna do tear talk.
Speaker 2: We're doing rivalry college football. Correct, Yes, okay, Willie, you
Speaker 2: got him?
Speaker 3: Go ahead, bub So my Tier three is going to
Speaker 3: be I'm choosing it a game two that it's not
Speaker 3: like I always watch it, but I'm always like, oh shit, it's.
Speaker 1: That week, Like it's gonna be cool to see how
Speaker 1: this plays out.
Speaker 3: My Tier three rivalry game is gonna be, oh, Oklahoma
Speaker 3: and Texas Red River rivalry. I am a fan of
Speaker 3: that game, and it's early in the year, so it's
Speaker 3: kind of cool, like the sun is bright. You just
Speaker 3: know like these two teams are about to clash. It's
Speaker 3: going down Texas Oklahoma. That's my Tier three, my Tier two.
Speaker 3: Hats off to the game. Michigan, Ohio State.
Speaker 1: That is historic.
Speaker 3: That is probably the most traditional. That's probably the greatest
Speaker 3: rivalry game when you take into account the history of
Speaker 3: college football. But we're talking current college football rivalries. My
Speaker 3: tier one and yes we're what you got my tier one,
Speaker 3: and that goes to, oh it's not that damn I
Speaker 3: forgot about that.
Speaker 1: I should have said. I knew you was gonna forget.
Speaker 1: But start over. No, my tier one, fuck start over.
Speaker 1: Just cut all this and start over.
Speaker 3: And my Tier one, Oh wow, this is not gonna
Speaker 3: surprise anybody. Nebraska Iowa.
Speaker 1: One in seven in the last eight years. Yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 3: But we have, like I said earlier, we have controlled
Speaker 3: the border between Iowa and Nebraska. We Casey's gas station
Speaker 3: is ours, We own the cattle industry, and uh we
Speaker 3: own the Hero's Trophy.
Speaker 1: Currently. That's my that's my it's my list. Were doing
Speaker 1: on words, Yes, we're absolutely only words predictable, shout the
Speaker 1: fuck up? Lost? Sorry?
Speaker 3: Sorry, when does throw in a few words disappointing, missed.
Speaker 5: Bad.
Speaker 2: Okay, my tier my Tier three Therese, there's a lot,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of great ribberries out there. I think
Speaker 2: my Tier three is going to go to a game
Speaker 2: that in recent years has has been amazing, like a
Speaker 2: second wins a lot of times. Is who's going to
Speaker 2: play in the SEC Championship. That is going to be
Speaker 2: Alabama versus Auburn. That is the Iron Bowl.
Speaker 1: That is my Tier three. You don't even watch that game.
Speaker 1: My tier this is my time.
Speaker 2: My Tier two is going to be the newest yet
Speaker 2: the strongest rivalry game possibly in college football the next
Speaker 2: couple of years, and that is two elite historic teams
Speaker 2: go at it September thirtieth. Next year Nebraska Michigan bust
Speaker 2: and Bowl. That is going to be in the near
Speaker 2: future probably a Tier one rivalry game coming up. And
Speaker 2: my Tier one goes to the greatest rivalry not just
Speaker 2: in college sports, but all of sports in general. The
Speaker 2: game Ohio State and Michigan. Whatdy Hayes back in the
Speaker 2: day win for two when they were up by multiple
Speaker 2: touchdowns at the end of the game, and when they
Speaker 2: asked him, why'd you go for two?
Speaker 1: He said, because I couldn't go for three. That's the
Speaker 1: kind of game we're talking about. That's a nice quote.
Speaker 1: That is elite. You are hurt by yours? Huh, Solid, No,
Speaker 1: I love my list. Oh sorry, Buss, go ahead again, Solid,
Speaker 1: Thank you good, respectable. How long were you holding that thing?
Speaker 3: I've felt it right when I got done, I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm saving this from out one word.
Speaker 1: Hey, And I pushed a couple of times just to
Speaker 1: make sure like it's gonna come out. Yeah, because you
Speaker 1: knew he was about to push like that. Boy, you
Speaker 1: got one. You got one moment to figure that out.
Speaker 1: It didn't take too long either. You're right when you ended,
Speaker 1: I was already like with the push, and I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, just push it down there and execute push
Speaker 1: it down there next to you. Don't get stage fright,
Speaker 1: will you? Guys didn't say Army Navy. I didn't watch
Speaker 1: that game, as much as I would love to. I
Speaker 1: respect it. That's not a good game. Yeah, it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean anything. Uniforms are always cool as hell. I think
Speaker 1: it was like fucking grabbing bring it in here? WHOA
Speaker 1: take it easy? Boy? Oh my god. The only reason
Speaker 1: I didn't choose the mad.
Speaker 3: The only reason I didn't choose the bus and balls
Speaker 3: just because we've only played one game, Like it's not
Speaker 3: it hasn't built that way and we got our ass kicked.
Speaker 1: So but you did you think to choose it? You
Speaker 1: literally said you forgot no when you brought that up.
Speaker 1: I did forget about it, okay, but I was still
Speaker 1: a pretty gung ho and wanting to uh.
Speaker 2: I thought the Red River rivalry game is a fucking
Speaker 2: great pull, and I was like, I can't take that.
Speaker 3: Like all I was thinking about is like, man, what
Speaker 3: big rivalry games do I actually like wat try.
Speaker 1: And keep up with.
Speaker 2: I think it's Layman's in the middle of the season.
Speaker 2: Though I don't like that. I like I like the
Speaker 2: last game of the year to be everyone's rivalry game.
Speaker 2: That's such an elite week of college football. I will
Speaker 2: say in this this past weekend was a good one, bro,
Speaker 2: Like really good good one. Great rivalry week, great Raflery week.
Speaker 2: It's off to everybody listen this week you're going to
Speaker 2: listen to a crazy podcast. Jared Allen comes on. Not
Speaker 2: all don't know what to expect. We know he's an
Speaker 2: elite football player. He likes to keep to himself quite
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Speaker 2: That man talks about theories, we talk about religion. It
Speaker 2: truly is.
Speaker 1: It was one of the more fun podcasts we've ever done.
Speaker 1: I was literally gonna ask like how much fun?
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we have on that pod, like there's some
Speaker 3: stuff to where I'm sure we're sitting there thinking like,
Speaker 3: all right, we're gonna go down this rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: Do we have a guest that where it's all gonna
Speaker 1: flow smoothly?
Speaker 3: And dude, it was like it was like sitting in
Speaker 3: the basement playing some video games, just talking shop with
Speaker 3: the boys.
Speaker 1: It's it was one of my favorite episodes we've done
Speaker 1: in like a long time. Yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 1: a It was a great time.
Speaker 2: There was a couple of times when the religion stuff hit.
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Speaker 2: This is this too much apology the Mormon community. But
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's more of the highway system than
Speaker 1: crappy drive. Driver drivers are bad, worst driver everywhere. Anything
Speaker 1: done out here, Like I'm coming, you know, Arizona.
Speaker 7: It's like the labor market is stacked out there, like
Speaker 7: you can do whatever you want, whenever you want.
Speaker 1: You got thirteen people knocking at your door and say
Speaker 1: I'm done in the West, I don't know, we just
Speaker 1: kind of we hustle a little more. I think I
Speaker 1: got here. I was like, you know, no one would
Speaker 1: return an email for like three weeks. That is a
Speaker 1: fucking deal. That is That is a bit of a
Speaker 1: weird thing. What is the texting? Is that just a
Speaker 1: Nashville thing? I don't know. You'll be in the middle
Speaker 1: of every middle of Texas somebody and it's just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess they're done. Yeah, that sounds like Taylor la
Speaker 1: One to me.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, brother, textbook me, dude, are living
Speaker 2: in the middle of the deep conversation.
Speaker 1: You'll send me a Texas long and I'll put my
Speaker 1: phone down. It'll be three days later like oh shit.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well I mean or or like you text somebody
Speaker 7: then they don't respond for like three days and you're like, well,
Speaker 7: really getting exposed over here?
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, So no, it was then.
Speaker 7: I honestly though I didn't realize how much eras So
Speaker 7: we got here, and the year we got here, I
Speaker 7: think it was the twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: It rained more in Nashville than it did in Seattle,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is when were you here?
Speaker 1: What time? What time of the year?
Speaker 7: Seventeen in September, right, So we went through that winter
Speaker 7: there was like that eight twenty eighteen was miserable, like
Speaker 7: just Randy Gray. So we were gonna move back, but
Speaker 7: then we just couldn't find the right school again to
Speaker 7: put our kids, and so we stayed and now we're
Speaker 7: building the house here.
Speaker 1: When you get in the winter months bro here, it
Speaker 1: is always gloomy, rainy, flowing. So it's got some good months,
Speaker 1: but it's like my kids at his age, I can't
Speaker 1: just going a lot, you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 1: just every thought about homeschooling. Yes, so the dude, the
Speaker 1: pandemic was amazing. I say that not amazing.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't took it more seriously because my wife and
Speaker 7: I were in a situation where I was like, I
Speaker 7: don't have to be a part of it. Yeah, both
Speaker 7: don't work Uh, they offer virtual schools going for our kids.
Speaker 7: And I was like, so, we're just not gonna be
Speaker 7: a part of it. So right, we just got in
Speaker 7: the r V and we pieced out, took them kids
Speaker 7: all like the National Park, stayed in Taho and stuff
Speaker 7: like that. And I say that because, like I felt
Speaker 7: bad for people that were considered Yeah, gosh, what's what
Speaker 7: I'm looking for?
Speaker 1: Uh? They had to work what was the word questing
Speaker 1: working remote? No?
Speaker 7: No, no, no, like yesilaric go sorry, yeah, Like, my
Speaker 7: my buddy's in a good question. Right, so he got
Speaker 7: he got deemed essential, and so it was like he's working,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. And uh and so like
Speaker 7: people like that are like people, you know, you got
Speaker 7: kids that need to.
Speaker 1: Go to school for for meals.
Speaker 7: Right, I'm like like they if I don't have to
Speaker 7: be a part of the problem, I'm not gonna be
Speaker 7: a part of the problem.
Speaker 1: Like I'm just gonna We're gonna sit back and chill.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's I we we Yeah. I thought it
Speaker 1: was great. Right. It was tough for us coming back
Speaker 1: because now the kids are in all the sports and
Speaker 1: we're running like crazy to have my young kids with
Speaker 1: me and we like I said, you guys want to
Speaker 1: go to the beach for three weeks.
Speaker 2: Let's wrong, just out of there though, that life of retirement. Dude,
Speaker 2: you want to go down the hard work and I
Speaker 2: can just sit back and relax.
Speaker 1: That's to us.
Speaker 7: I'm built for COVID because it gave me. It gave
Speaker 7: me an excuse to say no to everything you said.
Speaker 1: To us a few times, ye multiple times on the
Speaker 1: bus with people, no math, we can do zoom.
Speaker 3: We're just like if he lives in Nashville, we want
Speaker 3: him on the bus. Yeah, She's like, oh no, he's
Speaker 3: not doing it. And literally, Mia, I'm thinking he doesn't
Speaker 3: seem like a guy wouldn't.
Speaker 1: It's like somebody probably come around to me, like I
Speaker 1: don't wash his hands a lot, like like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's probably not wearing a mask. Yeah, I mean, actually
Speaker 1: you see his truck.
Speaker 5: He pulled.
Speaker 7: Dura actually one of the I got too much help
Speaker 7: for it, Like I was a Republican that wore a mask, right, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I don't. Like, first of all, I'm not a big
Speaker 7: human being fan anyways. Like people like I'm like a
Speaker 7: non social social guy, like I could do it. Yeah, fun,
Speaker 7: But if I have my brothers. I'd rather just hang
Speaker 7: at home or like go hunting by myself or people
Speaker 7: like golfing dayhuckom no golf.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't really want to golf with you
Speaker 1: me either. No.
Speaker 7: I did I rock the mask And I did all
Speaker 7: that and it was great because when people don't talk
Speaker 7: to you either, so that's that's a huge deal.
Speaker 1: So I did I rock the mask forever. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: my kids haven't been sick for like a year and
Speaker 1: a half. This is amazing because when they start going
Speaker 1: to school as hell, right, everybody the first year of hell,
Speaker 1: it's like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 7: I mean not even co We're talking about flu s,
Speaker 7: stomach virus RSV name.
Speaker 1: I don't want that. It just goes on the line
Speaker 1: of the family. Yeah, gets you.
Speaker 2: You're kind of out there playing dodgeball game. We're gonna
Speaker 2: lose every single time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We we just again we were like you know what, Nope,
Speaker 1: not happening. And then you know, we had actually, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: we had a couple of people get it really bad
Speaker 1: at the beginning, and I was like, that looks terrible. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm also I'm also under the believer, right. And I
Speaker 1: had had an old neighbor business partner mind something the time.
Speaker 7: He said, the pioneers, we're the ones that took all
Speaker 7: the arrows. It was the second and third way of
Speaker 7: settlers that found all the gold, right. And he was like,
Speaker 7: the lesson is, don't be first right where he goes
Speaker 7: find a niche don't everything's been thought of, right, Just
Speaker 7: do what other people do better.
Speaker 1: That's the philosophy, right right. I was like, that's legit.
Speaker 2: And I think I think, like even with the COVID thing,
Speaker 2: when you're sitting there in red or blue regardless, I
Speaker 2: think when we're sitting there back twenty twenty in March,
Speaker 2: everyone was a little nervous and that's just started coming.
Speaker 1: You weren't nervously I was. I was in California, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we were supposed to go. We had
Speaker 1: a uh we I was probably got inducted into the
Speaker 1: Big Sky Hall of Fame, right, And it was in Boisey. So,
Speaker 1: but this was twenty twenty, and it was so Washington
Speaker 1: had the big outbreak right in the in the conference
Speaker 1: was going to be in boise My mom and stepdad
Speaker 1: are in boise And then we're gonna go see some
Speaker 1: people in Arizona. Arizona had like one case that we're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're not worried in but a Nashville, right right, And
Speaker 1: I'm like here in Washington. So I go on.
Speaker 7: I'm like, there's like three people from Washington coming to
Speaker 7: this thing. And I was like, oh, hell, nope, We're good.
Speaker 1: No ship, No, I don't want this to people people
Speaker 1: dying land to canceling the event. Yeah yeah, yeah, spilled
Speaker 1: over an Idaho. But that was the thing. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was nerve wracking. I was like, and you know, buddy,
Speaker 1: Jerry was saying no to everything everything. There were times
Speaker 1: were got a little far out and Peggy was still
Speaker 1: seeing the same thing and I'm like, I think we're
Speaker 1: awling the clear here, like we level five. I took
Speaker 1: his far I took full advantage of saying no. It's
Speaker 1: like and she's like, will we have to book? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, we want him. He literally my brain, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking he lives in Nashville, and we're not wasting our
Speaker 1: energy doing him on zoom when he lives here one day,
Speaker 1: you gotta have my legend on the but yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 7: Even my buddies were like, you know, even when we
Speaker 7: started traveling again, it doing all this stuff, and was
Speaker 7: like we were able to play it off for so long.
Speaker 1: Like he was like, I came home from somewhere he
Speaker 1: was like, wait playing it. I was like, oh, bro,
Speaker 1: I've been traveling for like the last you know, six months.
Speaker 1: I just just out there. Tell anybody out there we were.
Speaker 1: I guess that we were able to maximize it. And
Speaker 1: that was my thing with people. I'm just like I
Speaker 1: didn't really care what people's because when it got political,
Speaker 1: I'm like I told people, I was like, unless you're
Speaker 1: a medical doctor, I don't care what your opinion is.
Speaker 1: And the reality is I just have compassion for people, right,
Speaker 1: And so you know what if if someone tells me, hey,
Speaker 1: if you're going to be in a crowd, put on
Speaker 1: a mask and you might protect somebody, I'll do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't really care, you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 1: not the same reason I put in my seat belt on.
Speaker 1: It is what it is.
Speaker 7: So unfortunately, people got crazy about it, and I think
Speaker 7: we showed honestly when I said, I said, he showed
Speaker 7: how mentally weak the United States was, right, Like, we
Speaker 7: didn't even have the mental capacity to like, just.
Speaker 1: Band together, just choose. I didn't care what size you
Speaker 1: choose from. Just band together. Right things got we were five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even tell people you just coughed in the car before you.
Speaker 2: When you when it was mid pandemic and you were
Speaker 2: at the grocery store or something and you're thinking, and
Speaker 2: you're just you're dead.
Speaker 1: You're fucking dead. You do that, it's over. I don't
Speaker 1: have it, but then you would know you I got
Speaker 1: I got to. I got banged the first time. Okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I got it for the first time, like
Speaker 1: a month ago. I came back from Canada a month
Speaker 1: ago in Canada, oh for real, you know, and my wife.
Speaker 7: Was pissed because, uh, we're, you know, we're trying to
Speaker 7: stay healthy before we had to go to Minnesota, and uh,
Speaker 7: I had a little sniffles, and I was like, I'm
Speaker 7: just gonna test just to make sure, because I always
Speaker 7: test when I come home, just in case. And uh,
Speaker 7: sure enough, it was like, dang, I made it two
Speaker 7: and a half years without catching COVID.
Speaker 1: And then you literally got through the whole thing. You
Speaker 1: finish the race, and you got caught by a stray bullet.
Speaker 1: That wild bullet, dude, that is how you feel. It
Speaker 1: was a bad deal. Was super super super cere solid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my daughter had my day. She got a daughter guy,
Speaker 1: my wife, my mother, daughter didn't get it and she
Speaker 1: had like a fever for half a day. I had
Speaker 1: a stuff And the worst part was like eight I
Speaker 1: got a sinus infection that was I tested polished for
Speaker 1: like fourteen days, which is actually another great thing because
Speaker 1: then it was like, all of a sudden, I started
Speaker 1: binge watching like Blacklist and all these random Nextflix day
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, man, I forgot how it was all
Speaker 1: supposed to sit at home and just went some you love.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and then it all's gonna be. People were
Speaker 1: calling me again like hey can you can you do
Speaker 1: here to do this? Or hey we got something.
Speaker 7: I'm like, I got COVID, And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: it's like phone stop ringing, y that's great.
Speaker 1: And then we came knocking again. Yeah, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: like nope, I don't have COVID. You know how this
Speaker 1: is going back and forth with the Peggy of the times.
Speaker 1: But Peggy she's just always dialed the She's like, hey,
Speaker 1: he's hunting for a couple of weeks here, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be back there the next week.
Speaker 4: Up.
Speaker 1: I'm actually now, l it's gonna be out like on
Speaker 1: the fourteenth or something like. If you want him, it
Speaker 1: have to be this week, right, you have to be
Speaker 1: this week? Yeah.
Speaker 3: God, it's just like, you know, it's getting like do
Speaker 3: we do we have the morning we passed. We've been
Speaker 3: playing the limbo dance for we have a years.
Speaker 1: You have no disrespect.
Speaker 7: I apologize for that, but yeah, we just I guess
Speaker 7: I got to know him back to back to normal now,
Speaker 7: but uh yeah, it was it was definitely well then,
Speaker 7: you know, and then I get it.
Speaker 1: I ended up catching in a crilling club and then,
Speaker 1: you know, I thought for sure someone's gonna have the
Speaker 1: flu or something from Minnesota being around like eighty thousand
Speaker 1: people all weekend.
Speaker 2: Nothing nothing, You've got first second, being able to get
Speaker 2: out of it today, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no. I was like, all right, we're here,
Speaker 1: We're good. It's you know, the right time, man, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: no doubt and right, I'm right. Well, you know, part
Speaker 1: of it was I just wanted to make sure you
Speaker 1: guys a success level was up to par. You know what.
Speaker 1: I mean like we've officially hit the bar for you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm all right, they're good, you know enough? I
Speaker 7: mean warehouse on a bus, like anything can happen. Yeah, cool,
Speaker 7: let's roll.
Speaker 2: We all tested policis for COVID today, so I'm it's
Speaker 2: a little wrinkle and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you want to start with it? You
Speaker 1: want to start at the beginning? We all just got canceled,
Speaker 1: just so I don't want to how quiet.
Speaker 2: Me and Will got we are political views are whoever?
Speaker 2: If you're talking right now, you're Republican, so are we?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 7: But that's that's kind of like honestly, I tell people
Speaker 7: to tell them, like, you know what the world needs,
Speaker 7: more independence, right, like earn my vote again, that's what
Speaker 7: I want someone to earn my vote.
Speaker 1: But uh no, that's politics.
Speaker 7: I try to My whole philosophy is that just don't
Speaker 7: be a bad person, right, you could be a good
Speaker 7: human being and we can get along.
Speaker 3: To me, It's just like when you see that look
Speaker 3: in people's eyes when they get big and you just
Speaker 3: know they're very like opinionated about some more passion.
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say opinion it like it's wrong either,
Speaker 1: But passionate. I'm more like, you know, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not smile enough with this. I'm just like, there's philosophy
Speaker 1: good people, right, So I have a philosophy.
Speaker 7: If you don't, if you're not like intelligence wise or
Speaker 7: on this topic, what societal the minimum of what societal
Speaker 7: norms are? Right, Like if someone would talk to you
Speaker 7: like I would talk to you guys like, okay, these
Speaker 7: guys would be considered intelligent people by societal norms, right,
Speaker 7: not a bunch of turns, right, Or if you've read
Speaker 7: two to at least two books on the subject, I'll
Speaker 7: listen to all your point of views.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: If not, like, if I'm like my eh, it'd be
Speaker 7: like a homeless person trying to talk to you about
Speaker 7: your finances. We're just not even going to entertain that
Speaker 7: conversation because we're not on the same level. Like the
Speaker 7: levels just aren't even there, and you're not gonna understand
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. And I don't really care what you
Speaker 7: say because you don't have any you know, proof behind
Speaker 7: what you're saying.
Speaker 2: The problem of with information is you can if whatever
Speaker 2: your opinion is, you can find literature to support your opinion,
Speaker 2: and that is because it's just the Internet. You have
Speaker 2: all this flooding information. If you're like I feel like
Speaker 2: the world is flat, you feel like the world is flat,
Speaker 2: you can find all the information you need to know
Speaker 2: that the world is flat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell those people start driving, Start to start
Speaker 1: driving me. It's just a fun conversation and have like
Speaker 1: your text should be a text when you get to
Speaker 1: the MP you go through the world is flat, the situation,
Speaker 1: the world is flat. I don't think so you like
Speaker 1: with somebody else.
Speaker 2: No, you start on the media other day. I think
Speaker 2: we were like on Instagram and you like, damn me
Speaker 2: something like it is the world actually flat?
Speaker 1: Oh? DM? Do you like somebody doing like a conspiracy
Speaker 1: thing of Oh, basically they got some points. I'm my will.
Speaker 1: I can't do this to you. I love like, I
Speaker 1: just love any kind of conversation, Like if somebody's a
Speaker 1: flat Earth, then they want to sit here and talk
Speaker 1: about I love doing it as long as we're not
Speaker 1: sitting here yelling at each other, because I just I
Speaker 1: enjoy when people are just fluid in their thinking. Yes,
Speaker 1: they empathize with the other person. They see we're all
Speaker 1: being good points back. I think we're not going to
Speaker 1: figure it out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think that's the biggest thing with like
Speaker 7: what happened with COVID is I think you used to
Speaker 7: have what used to social media, right, You used to
Speaker 7: have the ability, like Walter cronkuy would come on, it's
Speaker 7: about some crap off, and then you'd go have a
Speaker 7: couple of beers with your you know, whether you're a
Speaker 7: liberal or a conservative in the minute whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you tell me your viewpoints. I'd tell you to
Speaker 1: your points.
Speaker 7: We're obviously friends because we have some characteristics we enjoy
Speaker 7: about each other, so yeah, cool, then you go about
Speaker 7: your business. Right, But like you said, all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: it was the ability to agree to disagree went away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like ultimatum. People got the contentious. It
Speaker 1: was on my side, you're dead to me, you.
Speaker 2: Know, like like stopping becoming friends. You have like they
Speaker 2: were like our morals don't add up. Yeah, no doubt
Speaker 2: be friends anymore.
Speaker 3: And then when you're on the internet too, like it's
Speaker 3: not you can't just be fluid because it's not like
Speaker 3: we're all sitting here talking, so it's just harder to Yeah.
Speaker 7: I was just like you know, and I mean i'd
Speaker 7: have conservative buddy to like everywhere, I'd calme like.
Speaker 1: Oh, what's up, Biden, Lover, what's up? You know, like
Speaker 1: literally like you're no longer you can't be your cultureself
Speaker 1: a conservative because you wear a mask. And I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: and you're a Christian and I'm a Christian and you
Speaker 1: sound like a complete a hole. Right, Yeah, So I'm
Speaker 1: like I want to go down that road. Uh So, No, dude,
Speaker 1: I think that's so funny because I actually enjoy like
Speaker 1: you said, they're conversations with people who think differently. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because hey, I might learn something, right, b it might
Speaker 1: just be absolutely freaking hilarious.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I want someone to try to convince me there
Speaker 7: with his flat Like. I look forward to that because
Speaker 7: I'm just like, this is gonna a good conspiracy theory
Speaker 7: goes along way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're really good thrones. No, I couldn't get him.
Speaker 1: That's when you got a bone.
Speaker 7: Storylines couldn't get into me and my wife tried twice
Speaker 7: to sit down and watch it could get and you
Speaker 7: know the other one. Everybody's gonna hate me for it
Speaker 7: because freakin' uh, what is it with Jason Bateman?
Speaker 1: Brother? What the tried twice started that thing twice.
Speaker 7: I even got to like episode twelve or six or something,
Speaker 7: I don't even know when it went into it, and
Speaker 7: I'm like, it's the same. It's the same dang story
Speaker 7: every day. He's trying to launch some money for a
Speaker 7: drug dealer and he's trying to buy it. I'm like,
Speaker 7: this is ridiculous. How many people are gonna try to
Speaker 7: kill him?
Speaker 1: Like this is dumb. I couldn't see the show. So
Speaker 1: this is Will's battle to fight, but I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I was like, you're in right now, awesome, But I
Speaker 1: never got every every everything was the same. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he just bought another crappy business. His family hates him,
Speaker 1: you're laundering money for drug dealer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the story like and used to build, Like
Speaker 3: obviously you stopped. But what what's the show that you love?
Speaker 1: To know? What? I got? Anarchy this?
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, side note, I know we're talking
Speaker 3: about the Hell's Angel stuff, like a great one to
Speaker 3: binge bro.
Speaker 1: I had a hard time getting into it. Dude. It's
Speaker 1: the same thing. They're trying to.
Speaker 3: Get out of certain situations. Yeah, but you're just trying
Speaker 3: to take it from violence and guns like, hey, let's
Speaker 3: do a cleaner.
Speaker 7: I appreciated the individual character building in those right, versus
Speaker 7: like in Ozarks, his character doesn't change, you know, the
Speaker 7: wife character doesn't really challenge that you're wrong.
Speaker 1: That's what you watch. Watch even game time. There's a
Speaker 1: bunch of characters and they're building through the whole time.
Speaker 7: Guy, Like, dude, I'm sorry, I can't get into that.
Speaker 7: Same reason I didn't like. I hated never in the
Speaker 7: story as a kid.
Speaker 1: I'm like, the big flying dog scared the crap out
Speaker 1: of me when I was little, and it still kind
Speaker 1: of does. But I'm just I'm not What about Star
Speaker 1: Wars for you?
Speaker 3: You take out the dragons Game of Thrones together? No,
Speaker 3: you you take out the dragons. Game of Thrones is
Speaker 3: basically based on a true story.
Speaker 1: Huh, this is what story? What's the story man way
Speaker 1: back in the day. Dude, that's not a true story
Speaker 1: based on what about should that happen? You think dragons
Speaker 1: are real? You think dragons are real? No? No, oh,
Speaker 1: I would love to see That's the thing. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I would love to say dragons are I don't thinking
Speaker 1: dragon Dan, I don't want to watch that I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sit here and say I think dragons probably real, don't know,
Speaker 1: don't know, so.
Speaker 7: But uh so you know with uh we build houses
Speaker 7: for handicapped veterans, right for wounded veterans. And one of
Speaker 7: the guys build a house from he was the first
Speaker 7: sergeant first class. And he was like absolutely one and
Speaker 7: dragons without a doubt. And he said this is why,
Speaker 7: said when he was in Afghanistan. Right, these people don't
Speaker 7: even have a word for TV. So you when you
Speaker 7: get up into like the up into the candlemright valleys
Speaker 7: to like he said, you're talking about literally people that
Speaker 7: have lived in caves. They have no outside interaction, right
Speaker 7: except from their tribe and their their individual He said,
Speaker 7: they don't know what a TV is. They don't they
Speaker 7: don't have words for this, but they have words for dragons.
Speaker 7: So he said somewhere along the line someone.
Speaker 1: He told me. I was like, that's actually strong. I see.
Speaker 1: That's why I like have a conversation. I would be
Speaker 1: like dragons, bro like firewear and dragons.
Speaker 7: No, maybe maybe it was some sort of flying tera
Speaker 7: doct prehistoric, prehistoric, you never know, but he absolutely And
Speaker 7: when he told me, I was like, well that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if they have a five thousand year
Speaker 1: old word for dragon, who am I to say that
Speaker 1: they're wrong? Exactly? I don't have a five thousand year
Speaker 1: old word for anything, nothing, nothing, but the thing that
Speaker 1: I say, he was like a conspiracy.
Speaker 3: As it continues to zoom out, like we're basically all
Speaker 3: within the wall and like all these all these spots
Speaker 3: with snow and everything else that we don't actually ever
Speaker 3: go where you guys.
Speaker 1: Be on the wall. Yeah, like you can get to
Speaker 1: the edge, but that's it. Yeah, we're all inside something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I I love all of them. Think it's
Speaker 1: fun to to talk about it. I think it's fun
Speaker 1: to talk about I was like, I don't have a
Speaker 1: big belief system in much in many things. I kind
Speaker 1: of just like let them, let them, let everything fall
Speaker 1: where it may. But I kind of just let everybody
Speaker 1: else tell me their opinions. I just kind of consume
Speaker 1: what I want. Yeah, yeah, make sense a couple of
Speaker 1: things up, Dude, I will go with that original thought.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I hear, that's cool. I'm gonna if
Speaker 1: you think about it. Does anybody actually have an original thought? No,
Speaker 1: there's no origin your business partner. There's no original idea,
Speaker 1: there's blueprints are out there. You just find ways to
Speaker 1: kind of regurgit it and maybe do it a little
Speaker 1: bit better.
Speaker 2: Even when you're a child, you're taught certain things, things
Speaker 2: you picked up from your father, your mother, that those
Speaker 2: types of things your friends.
Speaker 1: So oh, I gotta say flat Earth was pretty original.
Speaker 1: That came out of nowhere. I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta have those people.
Speaker 3: But to me, it's the door opens when I see
Speaker 3: somebody's like, oh, you're you're an idiot, or once I
Speaker 3: see like, oh, they're not trying to hear that at all.
Speaker 3: This is where I need to figure out how do
Speaker 3: I poke them this time and be like, I think
Speaker 3: you're just being like, I think you're kind of stupid.
Speaker 1: I love I love smoking the flat for sure.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like oh then yeah over here says that if
Speaker 7: you're a flat earther, you're dumb.
Speaker 1: But you think I'm dumb? You guys, why have you
Speaker 1: dum pieces? No, you haven't. One of the videos and
Speaker 1: then just start fucking spamming their YouTube is an incredible
Speaker 1: I think you rethink this and then they just think
Speaker 1: you're fucking crazy. Lizard people might be my favorite. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but well I might agree
Speaker 1: with the barbershop dude, I only went out so like
Speaker 1: the lizard people.
Speaker 7: Again, I'm probably getting this wrong, so I apologize to
Speaker 7: all lizard people, who I am probably greatly offending.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now I will no longer be allowed in
Speaker 1: the lizard people culture. But basically that we're all of
Speaker 1: fing lizards or something that got sent down from a
Speaker 1: mother ship and about scientology, talk about scientology. Basically scientology
Speaker 1: and people pretty much the same from your stand right,
Speaker 1: it's about right town.
Speaker 7: But yeah, we're talking about the barber shopping night. But
Speaker 7: they literally think they're going to get transformed into some
Speaker 7: freaking lizard, and.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be so cool?
Speaker 2: I guess it's like getting abducted by a UFO. It's
Speaker 2: always in the Northwest, by the way, that being abducted
Speaker 2: by a UFO sounds like a deal you don't want
Speaker 2: to go through. But if you threw down a lot
Speaker 2: or something, I'd poke around for about.
Speaker 7: This COVID pissed people off so much. I heard this
Speaker 7: from a comedian actually based out of here in Nashville.
Speaker 1: Barazzi, Yes, you heard that line. But he was there.
Speaker 7: Was COVID was so divisive that the government came out
Speaker 7: and said there's UFO, and everybody's like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Cool, yeah, fuck it, yeah nothing that did kind of
Speaker 1: go by. That's the real thing. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: real came out. I'm like, hang on, there's UFO.
Speaker 2: I'm the long ones right. The whole time he was
Speaker 2: that's the leading here for But he he only broke
Speaker 2: up with the band to go chase aliens. He's got
Speaker 2: he's got documentaries and this ship finally comes out that
Speaker 2: one of the biggest questions are we alone in this world?
Speaker 1: We don't know We're not there? Go hey, toti a
Speaker 1: little on a hand. Who you tell some people, Hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, there's aliens. Everyone's like, see, I want
Speaker 1: more We're master, you're about that. I want more proof though,
Speaker 1: Like I want to see an actual alien, not just
Speaker 1: like a floating light. Does those Air Force pilots the
Speaker 1: you listen to a few of those guys who like
Speaker 1: worked at Area fifty one that's been on, like you know,
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan's podcast, and you get some.
Speaker 7: My grandfather, so my grandfather was uh twenty three years
Speaker 7: of the Marine Corps he's passed now, first Force, recon,
Speaker 7: top secret clearance, all sorts of stuff right space a lot.
Speaker 7: So I remember my brother when he were a little added,
Speaker 7: do like an interview somebody interview hero and interview my grandpa,
Speaker 7: he asked. My Grandpa's answer always stuck me. He said,
Speaker 7: didn't say no, didn't say yes. He just said the
Speaker 7: government has stuff that people don't need to know about.
Speaker 1: Because they would ensure pure panic. No ship, My dude,
Speaker 1: that's better than saying yes. That's my point. I might yes.
Speaker 7: I've hung on that word sinceide since I was like six,
Speaker 7: And I remember the last time I had breakfast with
Speaker 7: them before it passed. I was like, Grandpa, like, you
Speaker 7: need to just like write a book, like just record it,
Speaker 7: record everything you know, give it to me, right.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything. I just want to know, like
Speaker 1: I just want to have our family.
Speaker 7: It's like all the stop, Sacred Clarence, everything you ever
Speaker 7: learned from divest you take it to the grave with him.
Speaker 1: He was that hardcore. He's like, nope, take not do
Speaker 1: a great job. Cool, great job, that's super cool.
Speaker 5: He did that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm just curiosity. I know, I tell you
Speaker 1: whatman does a great job brainwashing. Throw that out there.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what they do. They take it all
Speaker 1: the way they were putting him down.
Speaker 2: They go mission accomplished. Boys, that was the one we
Speaker 2: had to worry about.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, you're sitting there at the.
Speaker 2: Funeral and this morning and tell me nothing. Didn't tell
Speaker 2: me nothing about ghosts. But he was probably tapped the
Speaker 2: hard ghost to you. Yes and no, we're almost thirty
Speaker 2: minutes into.
Speaker 1: A podcast with no football like this it practice, and
Speaker 1: we're let's talk about football eventually.
Speaker 2: We will talk about football eventually, and make sure you
Speaker 2: market down boss when we start talking about football.
Speaker 1: So can tell people in the intro we uh like?
Speaker 1: Yes and no. So as a Christian, I believe when
Speaker 1: I die, I go in front of my maker, right like.
Speaker 1: But I've experienced some some creepy stuff. I know people
Speaker 1: that have experienced some stuff, right, So I I don't
Speaker 1: think it's past the realm of possibility that you can
Speaker 1: be visited. You know.
Speaker 7: I believe, dude, I believe there's angels and demons on earth, right,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean? So, yeah, I think things
Speaker 7: can happen. Do I think ghosts can harm me?
Speaker 1: No? Yeah? What about demons. Have you seen paranorm activity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't do the other thing like I don't like
Speaker 1: I don't like like spiritual horror movies and ah, you're
Speaker 1: missing out, buddy. Those are the serious you don't want
Speaker 1: to believe that. You don't want to those.
Speaker 7: I don't think demons going because as as a Christians
Speaker 7: is someone that you know has confessed my faith in Christ,
Speaker 7: I'm untouchable from that.
Speaker 1: Uh boy, then I don't. I don't, I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying. I'm not trying to push that either. I
Speaker 1: also know my limits. We talked about know your limitations,
Speaker 1: know your boundaries, and I tell you, and I ain't
Speaker 1: going to drink it with I'm gonna say something stupid.
Speaker 1: They're not as they're not as bad as they like.
Speaker 1: I'm either gonna want to join them, yeah, or I'm
Speaker 1: gonna or I'm gonna say stupid, your dad, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm with the limitations. So yeah, ghosts,
Speaker 1: I think so yeah. With that said, I think they're
Speaker 1: really that. You can you can have some things, but
Speaker 1: I don't think on that whole like, man, I be honest,
Speaker 1: I don't know. But paranormal activity, I think that's a
Speaker 1: bunch of crap. I think if you need to watch
Speaker 1: it on Netflix stage right, I don't know, it's like Bigfoot, right,
Speaker 1: it's like big different situation. Did you hear the knock again? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll never get a picture of it, and we heard
Speaker 1: would be so bad. There's video evidence of the foot.
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's let's not get hung up on the ghost.
Speaker 1: Lets let's sting ontost Northwest conspience. Northwest has a lot
Speaker 1: of nice conspience, but might as well be a ghost.
Speaker 1: I'm out on that.
Speaker 2: You know, have you heard of the movie The Conjuring Annabelle. Yes, okay,
Speaker 2: those great horror movies. Two people who like found all
Speaker 2: that stuff and had their little museum downstairs in their basement. Yes,
Speaker 2: they had this philosophy that takes twenty eight days to
Speaker 2: like really experience an either effect, take away, demon or whatever.
Speaker 2: Twenty eight days you have to be isolated in an area.
Speaker 2: So Netflix has done this thing. It's like these paranormal
Speaker 2: activity people. They go into these haunted areas with no
Speaker 2: information about anything that's happened, and they spend twenty eight days.
Speaker 1: I think it's three teams.
Speaker 2: All three of these teams find out what happened in there,
Speaker 2: who did it, and all this crazy shit that they
Speaker 2: had no preregistered.
Speaker 1: Information too, They had no preregistration. Listen, I understand how
Speaker 1: TV works. I get what you're saying. Until I see
Speaker 1: someone buddy.
Speaker 7: Sitting there and all of a sudden, the ghost Jackson
Speaker 7: in the face that it is choking the mouth.
Speaker 1: We got a buddy going in the power of Christ
Speaker 1: compels you, and a fucking jar moves off a thing. Actually,
Speaker 1: we had that in college. We have The system is
Speaker 1: a true story, real thing. I agree. I agree with
Speaker 1: that one hundred percent. I agree with you believe in purgatory.
Speaker 1: Point out. I believe you go to heaven. You're either
Speaker 1: in heaven or hell.
Speaker 2: So you don't think there's a big fucking waiting list
Speaker 2: to see God. You think when you die, you're just
Speaker 2: gonna be in front of him. But there's a lot
Speaker 2: of people that die every single day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't.
Speaker 7: But they believe that says you can't even comprehend your
Speaker 7: your mind can't.
Speaker 1: Dig with I notice at all. Listen. I feel like
Speaker 1: I figured I figured it out a little bit of
Speaker 1: when I was banged up a little bit. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I was up in the sky. My boys in a
Speaker 1: car accident, had a little edible, and I always telling
Speaker 1: my wife. I was like, I figure, I think I
Speaker 1: figured out what heaven is. Stick with me, boys, I'm here.
Speaker 1: I'm listening to break down the moment religion because I
Speaker 1: think I have a couple of ideas moment religion. I
Speaker 1: think I think we got to do something there.
Speaker 3: You know, you know how, you know how when you
Speaker 3: dream like you're just you're just in a dream, and
Speaker 3: then suddenly you wake up.
Speaker 1: Obviously, when you're dead, you never wake up. What if
Speaker 1: the entire time like you're in a dream.
Speaker 3: Everybody always like, oh, and you go to heaven, you're
Speaker 3: gonna see this person, You're gona se About're gonna see
Speaker 3: all these different people, right, No, no one knows.
Speaker 1: But you're in your own dream, like you're in your
Speaker 1: own heaven.
Speaker 3: You're seeing everybody that you've like your grandpa that you've explain,
Speaker 3: you're seeing him in his best ways that you know
Speaker 3: him to be, Like all of your people that you're seeing,
Speaker 3: like you're just in a constant dream that's yours forever.
Speaker 3: Like my dream in heaven's gonna be different than your guys,
Speaker 3: because we're all gonna be seeing each other differently.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's that's just us being sad by being
Speaker 1: dreamed dreaming, Like we're just dreaming.
Speaker 7: We're in a dreamer basically, you say, you know, when
Speaker 7: you die, your soul becomes your sub your subcondent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just because you never like now, you never
Speaker 3: wake up and get up like I'm seeing my mom,
Speaker 3: I'm seeing my grandpa, I'm seeing my kids, my friends,
Speaker 3: I'm seeing them in the ways of the memories that
Speaker 3: I remember them. And then obviously Streamlin like we're all
Speaker 3: doing the the best of all time about scary dreams,
Speaker 3: that's hell. Maybe maybe you're living at Maybe that's the
Speaker 3: way it is. That maybe you have so many bad
Speaker 3: things that you just have in your brain that you're
Speaker 3: just you're experiencing, like that's just your way of that's.
Speaker 1: Your basically where an astuaganda trip or whatever. Yeah, by Alasco,
Speaker 1: which we need to do that too, by the way,
Speaker 1: But if I have I don't want to go to
Speaker 1: hell to find myself. Like how lost are you? It
Speaker 1: is through it, Boston, The only way to it is
Speaker 1: through it. I I think you need you need to
Speaker 1: face the names. It's like you probably got a couple
Speaker 1: of skeletonism closet that are just itching to come out
Speaker 1: right now, Like, yeah, when do you get arrested? You know,
Speaker 1: when you're in the NFL, they all come out, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean you got to rest in the league a
Speaker 1: couple of times. Yeah, would you get Dewey's Yeah, hey, listen.
Speaker 2: We'll un back yet later. Get chick on the heaven
Speaker 2: and hell. Thankers, because I really think that the Mormon
Speaker 2: religion kind of has it like a full proof plan
Speaker 2: to get the heap. Well, hang on, what did you
Speaker 2: think of what my I thought?
Speaker 1: You're thinking, like, you know, so the only thing that
Speaker 1: is unexplained on that right? Actually? Okay, yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 7: So I believe in the rapture that one day Jesus
Speaker 7: is going to come back and that we will and
Speaker 7: have but the earth again in eternity.
Speaker 1: Right, But then what do we do? I created the earth,
Speaker 1: I love a different body. Right.
Speaker 7: That says you'll get your heaven body and one day
Speaker 7: life will basically eternal, no sin, no sorrow.
Speaker 1: That stuff people that are in hell is living with
Speaker 1: the absence of God. Okay, but real quick, just off
Speaker 1: that one statement, how boring would that be? Well, you
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, but you can remember everything. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, everything fun that's been created and awesome is
Speaker 1: from Christ. So it might be like just endless. I
Speaker 1: mean you might hear yours that run perfectly straight, just
Speaker 1: endless loops. He Here's where my dream makes sense, though,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying here, what if you had
Speaker 1: a raining horse that had a hundred foot slide? What? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're getting hey plus one plus here's where my Here's
Speaker 1: where my dream makes sense. With that one though, it's
Speaker 1: like you're relieved of all of any pain, Like you're
Speaker 1: just You're just in peace and happiness. Yeah, you're just Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It's like it's like taking Ketmane
Speaker 1: and just being there all the time. I love to
Speaker 1: settle this. That's how I like Suttle crap in there
Speaker 1: talking about heaven. Were talking about kendem me right, you
Speaker 1: got boys. I think I figured heaven out. You got
Speaker 1: Will comes and figures out heaven. You got some guy
Speaker 1: right now listening on cat Trick, Liza's like I'm in
Speaker 1: heaven and until tomorrow. Yeah, then it all kind of
Speaker 1: wears off and them scary. So what's Mormon levels?
Speaker 2: I will talk about the moment. I want to talk
Speaker 2: about what I think heaven is. Okay, real quick, this
Speaker 2: is you the Mormon. I will tell you this is me. Okay,
Speaker 2: Heaven if heaven is truly real, which I'm not saying's
Speaker 2: not say it is. I'm just saying for the arguments
Speaker 2: out there, I think when you die, you go to
Speaker 2: whatever land that is, it's paradise, and every single person
Speaker 2: you know is also there with you because time is
Speaker 2: no longer a concept.
Speaker 1: So like, let's say I die.
Speaker 2: The minute I die, you're there with me. You might
Speaker 2: have died forty years later, but I get to be
Speaker 2: with you right now because there's no longer a feed
Speaker 2: of time.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: In my grandfather died, he's gonna see me the minute
Speaker 2: he opens his eyes and goes through the gates.
Speaker 1: I think that is exactly what that is. That's actually
Speaker 1: thank you, It's actually yeah. I was gonna yeah, I
Speaker 1: was playing off a wheel stick. I wasn't. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm very much. But I think, like what you just said,
Speaker 1: I think we're I think we're figuring this ship. I
Speaker 1: think because again, like like this is a whole new
Speaker 1: stuff for bus, Like we we could we could be
Speaker 1: dreaming tonight garling dreams and we're in them, like we're
Speaker 1: just yeah my dream every night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but me and you were hanging out in my
Speaker 3: dream currently even though you're sleeping. Yes, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I really you're talking about dude, Well, think about all
Speaker 1: these Well I don't think that creeps living in the metaverse.
Speaker 1: I don't know about reality, but what if the metaverse
Speaker 1: is reality whole? My like ready player one right, yeah,
Speaker 1: or like exception, because it's hard for me to believe
Speaker 1: that my conscious has been doing all of this stuff
Speaker 1: for life and then all of a sudden it's just
Speaker 1: black and there's no there's no like standing up or
Speaker 1: but it's just the way we're thinking. You won't feel anything.
Speaker 1: It's just over. Definitely. What why is there a reason
Speaker 1: of fear death? Then? No? No, no, no, well I
Speaker 1: think no one ever really know. But like I love life,
Speaker 1: so I don't want to die. Going all the way
Speaker 1: back to the Dragon's comment, right right, You've got these
Speaker 1: people that have a five thousand year old word for dragon.
Speaker 1: There's not a civilization on earth that has existed, that
Speaker 1: does not believe in an after life of some form. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't want you to think. I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't believe, like there's a zero partment that can
Speaker 3: believe there's just absence. Well, and then it's just zero part.
Speaker 3: Try to try to think of absence. We even trying
Speaker 3: to talking about it before.
Speaker 2: It's impossible, Yeah, to think about absence because Eve, when
Speaker 2: you think about asence, you think about black. Like if
Speaker 2: you're in a room with everything, you can't see anything,
Speaker 2: but then even in your mind you're like, I'm seeing
Speaker 2: nothing because you're just still seeing.
Speaker 1: Isn't that craziest shit ever? Oh yeah, Bro, if you
Speaker 1: believe you have a soul, then you believe you don't.
Speaker 1: You're not just so that this is.
Speaker 7: This is what I love you talking about you like
Speaker 7: you know you're having this are your conversations with people
Speaker 7: have views differently. I like having conversations with like, you know,
Speaker 7: atheists or agnostic.
Speaker 1: People or people that don't believe.
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, and then because I like to go back
Speaker 7: and say, well, you know, oh you don't have faith.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 7: The whole concept of faith throws people for a loop.
Speaker 7: But the reality is everybody has faith. Just what is
Speaker 7: your faith then?
Speaker 1: Right? People just have a faith in nothing? Right, Right,
Speaker 1: so there's well still believing in something. But yes, but
Speaker 1: you're putting all your eggs in one basket.
Speaker 7: Like I'm like, listen, I'm not a gambler, but right,
Speaker 7: you know, if I believe over here and I do
Speaker 7: what's right to that, I'm gonna get right.
Speaker 1: Like, if it really is nothing, my bets are hedged.
Speaker 1: If you have your all your faith enough. But if
Speaker 1: all your if all your eggs are in the basket
Speaker 1: of nothingness and heaven and hell does exist, that tough dark. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But there's so many different varieties of your religious choice,
Speaker 2: Like there's every religion for religions, just say so every.
Speaker 7: Religion has the same premise of a higher power. So
Speaker 7: I should say the main ones, right.
Speaker 1: The core points.
Speaker 7: The core point is right, you know, you got you know,
Speaker 7: I don't know what the Hindu religion and that kind
Speaker 7: of stuff, but you take like you know, Judaism, Christianity
Speaker 7: and Muslim right, like the premise of it is, it's
Speaker 7: the same God. Our our variances are and how you
Speaker 7: how we get about wea christ Christians believe in Jesus,
Speaker 7: he's the Messiah, right, Muslims don't. They believe Jesus was
Speaker 7: a prophet, and they believe obviously more of the Old
Speaker 7: Testament of the kran of it almost.
Speaker 1: Works, will get you to a certain level. Juda is
Speaker 1: the same way.
Speaker 7: Judy believes in obviously God as the whole, but it
Speaker 7: doesn't necessarily believe Jesus himself is Messiah, and Messiah so
Speaker 7: doesn't come right. And again for all the scholars out there,
Speaker 7: don't hate you, but that's the simplistic version.
Speaker 1: So the you are, you are lily dropping some knowledge
Speaker 1: that right now, at the core of it, at the
Speaker 1: core of every religion, there's a higher power, right, and
Speaker 1: that you're that you're deemed to have to atone to
Speaker 1: even scientology they believe in a fricking mothership. And you
Speaker 1: have to pay, you know, you have to pay that
Speaker 1: with the one guy a lot of money. And then
Speaker 1: you're saying, isn't forgiven because now you're neutral whatever that is.
Speaker 1: It's a wild deal.
Speaker 2: But definitely don't want Scientology not on your bad side,
Speaker 2: like you want to keep them because yeah, well murk,
Speaker 2: you were just like kind of like chase you around
Speaker 2: a little bit like your phone call the phones or
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 1: Now, what you're saying is, so you're saying, there's there's.
Speaker 2: God, and everybody has like Judaism, Muslim and uh, Christianity,
Speaker 2: we're all gonna we're gonna put this.
Speaker 1: As God here exactly. Everyone has those three religions.
Speaker 2: You have three different road maps, which one actually leads
Speaker 2: to the God because not all three can, right, Otherwise
Speaker 2: we could believe in all three.
Speaker 1: Correct, correct, And that's and that's where that's where faith
Speaker 1: comes in. Right. So through through my through the Bible,
Speaker 1: that's a book called The Case for Christ. Right.
Speaker 7: It's actually written by an atheist. I won't spoil if
Speaker 7: anybody wants to go to is the Chicago That one's
Speaker 7: a popular one too, because there's a Chicago investigative journalist, right,
Speaker 7: and his wife was a Christian, he was an atheist,
Speaker 7: and he goes down this entire investigative journey and at
Speaker 7: the end he has to take all the evidence that
Speaker 7: he has and he's like, basically, I'm at a crossroads.
Speaker 7: You have to make a decision for against right. But
Speaker 7: with that said, it's again it's you know, yes, through
Speaker 7: through my study of the Bible through through my belief
Speaker 7: system what I've taught, right, I obviously a Christian. I
Speaker 7: believe that the Messiah, and that's the way we're going
Speaker 7: not to say that, you know. Again, I mean the.
Speaker 1: Muslims one of the oldest religions.
Speaker 7: I don't know how God is gonna view like, you know,
Speaker 7: a devout muzzle, you know, because they have again the
Speaker 7: same God, obviously different we we believe sends our tone
Speaker 7: for differently. That's kind of the kind of the deal.
Speaker 7: So yeah, with that said, that's that's that's everybody rolls,
Speaker 7: I guess.
Speaker 3: And you were basically saying you enjoy having those conversations
Speaker 3: because ultimately, like it's like a faith based thing.
Speaker 7: I do, because I think you can find I think
Speaker 7: you can find supportive uh, you can find supportive information
Speaker 7: within like it's in the Bible, because the Kran, the
Speaker 7: Old Testament, and the Torah are pretty much the same,
Speaker 7: right his homework.
Speaker 1: You do say, like nine A relations are basically the same.
Speaker 1: It's the New Testment for us that's different. Right.
Speaker 7: So so again, I I enjoy you know, learning road
Speaker 7: maps and especially talking with scholars.
Speaker 1: And stuff like that because I think just a little
Speaker 1: close to your face. Expand, Uh, you expand that. I'm
Speaker 1: not used to having things in my mind like right, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll do put anything anywhere. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: love theme to the bus. That's why we're in a
Speaker 1: warehouse on a bus. Yeah. I don't don't tell people
Speaker 1: where this is now. You know what, the bat cave,
Speaker 1: this is nice without air conditioning. We got some America
Speaker 1: has to turn it up. That would be nice. I'm
Speaker 1: a little sweaty.
Speaker 3: Can we turn off the AC back there or just
Speaker 3: or just starting not up there? I'm talking about outside there.
Speaker 1: Don't have you guys, You guys don't have like just
Speaker 1: someone like Fanning you I wish man. We haven't made
Speaker 1: that kind of money yet.
Speaker 2: We we're gonna work on that back there like this, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: no blowers on the bus just yet. We're still working
Speaker 2: on the fluffs.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Obviously all super interesting, incredibly interesting ideas, and it is like,
Speaker 2: how do you figure out? I think on Joe Rogan's pockets,
Speaker 2: he had something on there and it was like love
Speaker 2: a bro Jogan talking love it, love it, dude, But
Speaker 2: I never listened to it.
Speaker 1: I think you'd really enjoy it.
Speaker 5: I think you'd really.
Speaker 1: Right now, you never listened to a podcast? Oh really
Speaker 1: until after today? After now, Yeah, I don't really like
Speaker 1: listening to myself talk because I'm pretty sure I'll say
Speaker 1: something stupid along the way, but I have to relive it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we say dumb shit all the time. People
Speaker 1: remind us all the time that don't.
Speaker 2: Well that is great when you go on the bird
Speaker 2: and people are like you said this, and it's like, well,
Speaker 2: I've changed my mind now, Like it's that easy. Should
Speaker 2: you remember about anything? But uh, Rogan had some guy
Speaker 2: on there and either Roman said this or this. This
Speaker 2: gentleman said, this is like having us understand the idea
Speaker 2: of life in the universe is like trying to have
Speaker 2: a mouse understand a cell phone.
Speaker 1: Like you can't.
Speaker 2: We can't fully our brains can't fully grasp the idea
Speaker 2: of what's truly around us. Have you ever seen just
Speaker 2: like been on Instagram and seeing somebody show you like
Speaker 2: what our solar system is and all the other so
Speaker 2: like it shows like let's say where you are, and
Speaker 2: it just starts zooming out.
Speaker 1: I sent you that video? Did you send me that?
Speaker 1: That's for the Beyond the Wall one? No different but
Speaker 1: going back, you never even laying in bed, like on
Speaker 1: a room, and they just zoom out. It's insanity. And
Speaker 1: it's like, it's that because if the space is truly infinite,
Speaker 1: we'll just look outside when you're an airplane. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: you also see the curve on a clear day, the
Speaker 1: curve of the earth. Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Right now because it's mirror, there's a there's a mirror, yeah,
Speaker 2: fucking reflecting back at you.
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, They like probably the one.
Speaker 7: Honestly, that's probably the one topic I would love to
Speaker 7: have a conversation with somebody. At at some point, I'm
Speaker 7: probably just gonna be like, probably the dumbest thing I've
Speaker 7: ever heard, which one?
Speaker 1: Which one? These flatters than lizard people, it's up there.
Speaker 7: It's because it's it's it's rational people telling you, like
Speaker 7: a lizard person, I expect.
Speaker 1: Them to be off their rocker. Yeah right, I can
Speaker 1: understand that you're talking to them for an experience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, you gotta he's got his tongue splitting scales
Speaker 1: tattooed on him. Yeah, he made his life decisions. Not
Speaker 1: done it good, He's done it.
Speaker 7: Here's like normal people like arguing about flatters. And then
Speaker 7: I'm like, you're not so normal anymore.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, like you was. There's a globe
Speaker 1: and planets and have telescopes and they look at them
Speaker 1: like were you were the only planet? We're spinning eight
Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour east.
Speaker 3: Some people's right now, government trying to control the way
Speaker 3: we're seeing everything.
Speaker 1: Conspiracy there.
Speaker 3: Maybe your grandpa didn't tell you because he was tapped
Speaker 3: the whole time. He realized if I tell him, they're
Speaker 3: gonna kill my whole family.
Speaker 1: I guess right. Imagine that you were the reason why
Speaker 1: your whole family had to die, because oh damn, that'd
Speaker 1: be so tough. That'd be tough pill to.
Speaker 7: Swall Before explain how I took off in Australia, I
Speaker 7: ended up back in La.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a whole conspiracy theory that Australia is not
Speaker 2: even a real place. There is a whole conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2: They put you up, they're in the air, and they
Speaker 2: fly in circles for hours and hours and hours, and
Speaker 2: they land you somewhere Australia whatever that is like that,
Speaker 2: but really you're not very far off from where you were.
Speaker 1: That is just it was like flight three, what was it,
Speaker 1: the Indonesian Flight three Agasis.
Speaker 2: Right, there is a flight from like the fifties that
Speaker 2: took off in New York to Miami, and I'm going
Speaker 2: to butcher it.
Speaker 1: But the flight disappeared off the radar. No one could
Speaker 1: find it.
Speaker 2: And then like twenty years later in the seventies, this
Speaker 2: flight lands in Miami and all those people thought they're
Speaker 2: on a plane for two hours.
Speaker 1: Netflix called Manifest. Yes, bro, I've watched it. That's a show. Yeah, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's a true story. I've never seen that show. That's
Speaker 1: a true story. Prove it. Prove it and I promise.
Speaker 3: And then when they landed, the government was basically killed
Speaker 3: them off or control them for experimentation.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know that part. I just know that
Speaker 1: this shit happened.
Speaker 8: Prove it.
Speaker 1: It's Manifest based on a true story. You read it? Well,
Speaker 1: you know what was that good at reading? Well? Manifest
Speaker 1: does reference real life events, artifacts, and people. The show
Speaker 1: is not based on a true story. It's purely a
Speaker 1: work of fictions coming from the mind of creator Jeff Raight.
Speaker 1: I'm going by, dude, I'm standing by what right. Really,
Speaker 1: I've never seen this ship right now. And I know,
Speaker 1: but right now somebody out there was just like, well
Speaker 1: the Wan said this right right gospel, and that's now
Speaker 1: getting posted. And I guarantee somewhere in the metaverse there
Speaker 1: is going to be a freaking time travel like something
Speaker 1: about time traveling travel.
Speaker 3: Somebody's that somebody's gonna be a Cetaria lunch room like
Speaker 3: vain sticking out of their neck trying to prove what
Speaker 3: you're saying is correct. I believe I stand by them,
Speaker 3: and going off the whole uh element of the faith
Speaker 3: and all this stuff, like the one of the human
Speaker 3: needs being certainty every people find certainty in like making
Speaker 3: themselves believe those knowing knowing there's certain that that's not
Speaker 3: gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Here's it here, Okay, here are ones that are more
Speaker 1: like on the on the era. Jerry might have to
Speaker 1: be a regular on the show. We work another years.
Speaker 1: Hopefully COVID doesn't happen again. Your guys, is a j
Speaker 1: Hawk pop on for an hour. We're not doing it
Speaker 1: in zoom though. You have to drive here, and we're
Speaker 1: not even talking ball, we're just talking house. You release
Speaker 1: this good for you one?
Speaker 2: Okay, how do you feel about JFK. Was that inside
Speaker 2: job by the government or the mafia? Who So let's
Speaker 2: go down this road's fun when you when you played
Speaker 2: in Dallas.
Speaker 1: This is a perfect segue to the NFL. Lamar Hunt.
Speaker 1: We're connecting JFK to the NFL. People really want to
Speaker 1: see it, I know people.
Speaker 7: So if you read Lamar Hunt Junior's book, he talks
Speaker 7: about his death. So his dad was an avid like
Speaker 7: right wing Republican pretty much right. I hated JFK. They
Speaker 7: found a business card the f by they say they
Speaker 7: they say they obviously investigated all this. The guy who
Speaker 7: drove Learvey all Dwells right as a shot, dude, the
Speaker 7: driver of him was found with Lamar Hunt Junior's business
Speaker 7: card in his office. He was he interviewed for a
Speaker 7: janitorial position at the at the Hunt business really and
Speaker 7: the theory was, like, why would a person for a
Speaker 7: janitor job be interviewing with the president of the company,
Speaker 7: the son of the owner of this company of Lamar
Speaker 7: Oil whatever Hunt Industry.
Speaker 1: I don't know what their company name is. Chief's owner, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the old not the new. And Lamar Hunt. Uh so
Speaker 1: Clark Hunt, Lamar Hut Junior was there when Eric when
Speaker 1: I when he drives to me Chiefs that cheated this
Speaker 1: past sweet sweet man, I love. But it's and it's
Speaker 1: in it's in their own books so they obviously. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that the guy who drove the shooter of JFK was
Speaker 1: found with his business card in his pocket and his dad,
Speaker 1: uh not his Laura Hunt senior.
Speaker 7: Uh mister, his dad, mister, his dad, mister Hunt because
Speaker 7: Lamar Lamar Hunt Junior is not Lamar Hunt was the
Speaker 7: owner of the.
Speaker 1: Chief of Lamar Hun Junior is still live. Sorry I
Speaker 1: corrected myself, that's the Sun.
Speaker 7: But but yeah, so Lamar Hunt's business card was found
Speaker 7: in this dude's deal and it talks about how his
Speaker 7: dad had like two separate.
Speaker 1: Families, right, like they didn't know about it, like he
Speaker 1: had on two super side.
Speaker 7: Alice, right, but he was obviously that's a limited But
Speaker 7: JFK is assassination. He was investigated through the potential connection
Speaker 7: of the Hunt family, which is in the you know
Speaker 7: obviously NFL owner and.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs and the Chiefs which cheated last night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the game. What happened. I saw, I
Speaker 1: saw the times were smoking.
Speaker 2: That part's not important I really want to dive into
Speaker 2: this JFK thing. Obviously you played in Dallas at at
Speaker 2: some point in your career. Did you ever go down
Speaker 2: to where JFK the buddy? They had literally have x's
Speaker 2: where the first shot was, the second show was, and
Speaker 2: there's conspiracy theorists all over the place, and then there's
Speaker 2: the building with the windows still cracked the way.
Speaker 1: It was when he was shot. It is a wild deal. Well,
Speaker 1: not only that, have you heard.
Speaker 2: About the similarities between Lee Harvey Oswald and John Wilkes
Speaker 2: Booth that's the guy who'shot Abraham Lincoln, Right, Yeah, have
Speaker 2: you heard like it's like insanely similar situations, insanely And
Speaker 2: so they.
Speaker 1: Did an episode on too like the how fast Gerald
Speaker 1: Ford was? Gerald Ford? I believe what? No? Was it Johnson?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Johnson got Johnson was vice president? Correct Google
Speaker 1: that I don't listen. I'm what year we'll do the internet?
Speaker 1: It was a fifty four sixty something vice resident of JFK. Yeah, anyways,
Speaker 1: how fast he was? Like it was yeah, Lynda B.
Speaker 7: Johnson like he was like Air Force two was there
Speaker 7: and they shouldn't have happened because they should have never
Speaker 7: been in the same spot at the same time my
Speaker 7: Air Force two was there. He was immediately like sworn
Speaker 7: into office, like before he was even confirmed that he
Speaker 7: was dead.
Speaker 1: No way, there's all sorts of weird. So where do
Speaker 1: you stand? What do you stand on JFK. Was it
Speaker 1: an inside job? Is hell? That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was random. Uh So, Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 7: I am not a conspiracy theorist by far usually right,
Speaker 7: but I do think I'm also not like a big
Speaker 7: coincidence guy. Yeah, Like there's too much shady crap that
Speaker 7: you can you can piece together with real evidence to
Speaker 7: say that JFK likely not a random event.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm buying that stock. Yeah. I mean, just
Speaker 1: like it's aggressing no situation too with the mafia.
Speaker 7: And I just don't understand the play. Like again, I
Speaker 7: have to go back and read up on so I
Speaker 7: you know, read up on it, but I don't. I
Speaker 7: don't necessarily what the benefit would have been, know, to
Speaker 7: take them out, But I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just presidentially like you know, he was probably doing
Speaker 2: something on the inside we didn't know about for sure,
Speaker 2: And I think that's another thing that goes back that
Speaker 2: kind of circles us all the way back to our
Speaker 2: sovid thing or just in general, like us, the gen
Speaker 2: pop we sit here and we pretend like we have
Speaker 2: all the answers.
Speaker 1: No, we know, we have no idea what's going on
Speaker 1: in the government. We have no we have no clue.
Speaker 2: I mean we have there's clues, there's clues, but we
Speaker 2: have we truly have no idea what's truly going on
Speaker 2: YouTube people understand that we'll.
Speaker 7: Get on whatever side they're on, and then they start
Speaker 7: yelling really loud, yeah, and they're like, don't like, don't
Speaker 7: follow the herd or some crap like whatever they're saying.
Speaker 7: It's like, you're just getting fed. You're getting fed right
Speaker 7: wing information. This idiot is getting fed left winging information
Speaker 7: right right. And then like the majority of us are
Speaker 7: just too busy working trying to make a dollar, you know,
Speaker 7: the care where it's like what why why all the
Speaker 7: squeaky wheels get the grease? Yeah, but it just it
Speaker 7: drives me nuts. People are like, Nope, that's it's like,
Speaker 7: oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 7: When I was talking to something and I asked him,
Speaker 7: I was like, where did you get that information. Oh,
Speaker 7: it's right here on like freaking b k x T news.
Speaker 7: You don't have bkx I'm like, yeah. The f is
Speaker 7: that it was like something first site to any site
Speaker 7: you have to log on with like a back slash,
Speaker 7: an abbreviated word, and it's.
Speaker 1: Like dot net like it's not truth. If the title
Speaker 1: says this is the truth, it's probably a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gotta be a tough deal. It's got to
Speaker 2: be a tough deal for us all to figure that
Speaker 2: whole thing.
Speaker 7: But yes, we're all just getting fed crappy information and
Speaker 7: the information stream no one knows it's infinite, right.
Speaker 3: That's why you gotta have a fluid That's why you
Speaker 3: just gotta have a fluid mind. Not take life so seriously.
Speaker 3: Enjoy the ride man half phone with everybody around you.
Speaker 1: You get on board, baby, Yeah, po podcast got hit.
Speaker 7: If you got hit by a bus tomorrow, probably pretty
Speaker 7: pissed off that you were down at like the school
Speaker 7: boards screaming and like threatening doctors and probably and then
Speaker 7: like it's the better ways to waste your last breath.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. But you know, people are just addicted
Speaker 1: to problems. People are died the drama. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just not equals problem. Sure. A lot of people like
Speaker 1: to insert themselves and other people and problems help people
Speaker 1: like relate to whoever's like in their tribe, just so
Speaker 1: they feel like some sort of significance. Yeah, they want
Speaker 1: to be a fixer. Everybody thinks they're a fixer, right,
Speaker 1: They're gonna fix everything. Yeah, I got the answer for
Speaker 1: that ball. What do you think about Mormons? Real quick?
Speaker 1: You want to they're more interested in you intrigued because
Speaker 1: I went to with a bunch of more and everybody
Speaker 1: who's listening probably fuck they got off the they got
Speaker 1: off the cell. Okay, so I'll be quick. So uh
Speaker 1: this kid and he was he's a Mormon kid.
Speaker 2: Like, by the way, if you meet a Mormon person,
Speaker 2: are they not the nicest people you've ever met in
Speaker 2: your life?
Speaker 1: Ever? They're friends.
Speaker 2: They give you up to something vibes, because if you're
Speaker 2: gonna be that nice, you up to something.
Speaker 1: You know, I have a problem. I can't trust anybody.
Speaker 1: Devices gotta have a vice to have a vice. So
Speaker 1: this this individual does not have any vices.
Speaker 2: And there's another kid in our room who's Christian hardcore
Speaker 2: bim and the most fun thing is you get a
Speaker 2: five minute breaking meetings and you just watch them go
Speaker 2: at it each popcorn out and you're just enjoying it.
Speaker 2: And then once such a slow down, you kind of
Speaker 2: pepper something in there for sure if it keeps going. Now,
Speaker 2: I was in Tampa Bay or Practicants practicinganst the Buccaneers,
Speaker 2: and I pulled this. I was like, hey, give me
Speaker 2: the rundown on being a Mormon, and basically I'm gonna
Speaker 2: butcher it. So if you are Mormon out there, I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry. But basically, there's layers to heaven. It's like
Speaker 2: Terror Massoux and obviously the one, the top notch dog
Speaker 2: is what you want to be, like, you want to
Speaker 2: be in that one.
Speaker 1: If that shuttles the white people, I allegedly, okay, so
Speaker 1: just for the white guys, but they've changed that along
Speaker 1: with the multiple Why won't they won't claim that.
Speaker 7: But yeah, so if you look at the hierarchy calendar,
Speaker 7: it's just a bunch of old yeah, white dudes.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but everyone everyone has to think.
Speaker 7: It was like, yeah, if you were a person of color,
Speaker 7: you couldn't get into the highest levels of heaven, and
Speaker 7: Mormon religion.
Speaker 2: That's a tough deal. That's that's a tough swing for
Speaker 2: the Mormon religion. But there's all like, you know, the
Speaker 2: Catholics have their prest boy thing going on. I think
Speaker 2: the Christians were big on that.
Speaker 1: Christians theirs. There was actually more abuse in the more
Speaker 1: mature I'm not doing this with you. Google outside my
Speaker 1: clone right now. I like the water is not as
Speaker 1: deep as what's happening in your head about him. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about who's listening, Jared. My point is we're in
Speaker 1: the South, dude, I'm doing my best.
Speaker 7: My point is, what do you got certain things? There's
Speaker 7: there's what I said, My whole point is when people
Speaker 7: seem too perfect up front, usually hiding some crap.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. The day the elevator, so
Speaker 2: there's there's levels. Obviously the top one a spaceship just
Speaker 2: for white people. And I was like, hey, so what
Speaker 2: happens when you got back to the picture. He just
Speaker 2: had it pulled up, go back to the hierarchy picture
Speaker 2: of all the founders.
Speaker 1: I just saw it up there. Oh back again, they
Speaker 1: keep going there was it had the big imagery of
Speaker 1: the I think it's just going back and forth, things beam, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of pails. All right, let's that's a top deal.
Speaker 1: I didn't make this up. I'm not Mormon. It doesn't
Speaker 1: hurt me. It doesn't hurt on those levels. No, those are.
Speaker 2: Those people who are officially Those are people that are
Speaker 2: officially am So when you die, if you don't believe,
Speaker 2: you're like, if you're like me, who's not Mormon, you
Speaker 2: go into purgatory. It's like a waiting room, and you
Speaker 2: can only leave purgatory once you believe there's really no hell.
Speaker 1: The bottom floor is purgatory. So I asked him.
Speaker 2: I was like, what what is the first level? And
Speaker 2: he's like, it's like Earth, but a little bit better.
Speaker 2: And I go, that's perfect because.
Speaker 1: I love Earth.
Speaker 2: I will literally I might be Mormon now, because all
Speaker 2: you have to do is once you die, you go.
Speaker 2: You go in this waiting room. Some reception at the
Speaker 2: desk is like, hey, they'll see you when you believe
Speaker 2: this paperwork. But the issue is it's just as I
Speaker 2: it's as I die, gunshot boom, I'm gone, I wake up.
Speaker 2: I'm in a waiting room. I am now sitting here
Speaker 2: with a lady going, hey, once you believe, you can leave.
Speaker 1: I well, no, do you have your insurance courses and
Speaker 1: you forgot and you forgot all your ship. You literally,
Speaker 1: once you get into purgatory, you've already they've proven. So
Speaker 1: there's now you believe in what's real. Okay, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So literally, being Mormon is a full proof plan of
Speaker 2: getting to heaven, full proof level didn't do all that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't go that far. I was
Speaker 1: really just focused on level one. Okay, so I know
Speaker 1: I can get there. I've been to I've been to
Speaker 1: a Mormon wedding.
Speaker 7: There, so I've been to a Mormon wedding and I've
Speaker 7: been to it Mormon uh like baptism and uh so
Speaker 7: it's a Mormon wedding and you're not allowed to go
Speaker 7: to the temple, right, so this is this is fact too.
Speaker 1: Oh buddy, I got something. Women.
Speaker 7: Women can't get to the levels of heaven like that
Speaker 7: their husbands can unless they get called by their chosen name,
Speaker 7: which I like to assume it's like like an alien name.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, people they know what they're that's why they
Speaker 1: get married. You have to be cleansed or whatever, and
Speaker 1: then you can get into the temple and only certain
Speaker 1: people can go into the temple during the marriage ceremony
Speaker 1: because that's where I guess the wife gets her chose
Speaker 1: a name or whatnot, and then that'll bring you that
Speaker 1: that's a level that they can they can't make it
Speaker 1: the t they can't get to the next level of
Speaker 1: having a list, like they get called by their for
Speaker 1: their husbands chose a name and again probably getting canceled
Speaker 1: for this because well I learned this years ago.
Speaker 7: But my my favorite argument with Mormons are is I
Speaker 7: asked people, I go, oh, when was your religion founded?
Speaker 7: And they're like, oh, you like, you know, seventeen ninety
Speaker 7: six by Joseph Smith or bringing me on whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, that's funny. Mine's just the beginning.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, but if you haven't established and I have
Speaker 7: good friends that are Mormon, I've had this conversation with them.
Speaker 1: Right, if your religion has an established date, if the
Speaker 1: starter has a social Security number, it's probably not on
Speaker 1: par with what you're saying. Some of the religion's nineteen
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. That's pretty far back from we
Speaker 1: could start one kind of yeah. I mean a lot
Speaker 1: of people start them. I mean the tax breaks. But no,
Speaker 1: I just some of the some of some of the.
Speaker 7: Smartest people I know, outing the smartest people that I
Speaker 7: know or Mormon, and I just I shake my head sometimes.
Speaker 7: And because you got the Book of Mormon in the Bible,
Speaker 7: Yeah you can't, can't.
Speaker 1: Joseph Smith found that Book of Mormon.
Speaker 2: Yes, Joseph at one point, I'm pretty sure there was
Speaker 2: well yeah, but listen, he wasn't a horse the lowest.
Speaker 1: That's Morethur Smith Dife stuff.
Speaker 2: There is just so when you're talking about a temple,
Speaker 2: there's like like things you have to go through in
Speaker 2: the Temple of Mormonism to like get in. There's actually
Speaker 2: secret handshakes. I went as far as to learn one
Speaker 2: of those secret handshakes. So he would I honestly do
Speaker 2: it if that guy forgot it. But I did do this,
Speaker 2: found out he wouldn't be.
Speaker 1: Allowed in the temple. Oh that I'm not gonna if
Speaker 1: who found a story like if if the temple of
Speaker 1: the guys on there, Yeah they found out. Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 1: Like so first of all, too, so I didn't find
Speaker 1: out through him. I found out. I found out to
Speaker 1: somebody else. Okay, but yeah, I was when we were
Speaker 1: in when we were in Tampa, I went up to
Speaker 1: him and I did the handshake to him, and he's like,
Speaker 1: big smiley guy. He's like, don't ever do that again.
Speaker 2: That can't ever do that again. He was like, legitimately,
Speaker 2: I won't ever do that again. I was like to
Speaker 2: the point where I say, I am so sorry. I
Speaker 2: obviously found an envelope and I pushed it too much.
Speaker 2: Point to that being that there is proof that it's
Speaker 2: cult dish hold on.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not far off there. That's like.
Speaker 7: It's like a fraternity or you throw up a cute
Speaker 7: you throw up a Q dog sign. If you're not
Speaker 7: a cute dog, you're good at me. Crap kicked out?
Speaker 7: Is it's a club then, because if you're gonna fight
Speaker 7: somebody over a handshake into your club, like religion is
Speaker 7: supposed to be all encompassing, all welcoming. So you can't
Speaker 7: fight me because I learned your handshake. That's not cool.
Speaker 7: That means you're hiding some crap.
Speaker 1: I got a question hit in the temple. I got
Speaker 1: a question.
Speaker 3: I gotta get that motherfucker the Mormon stuff. I'm not
Speaker 3: as like privy to all this. Are we gonna get
Speaker 3: killed for this conversation. I'm kind of nervous. You kind
Speaker 3: of take it a stick. Literally, you're a grave digger
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: I feel like you just keep taking interest.
Speaker 3: Opinion by Jared Allen on Woman all his opinions myself
Speaker 3: Taylor too, you get some stuff wrong.
Speaker 1: Free boys.
Speaker 7: But again it's fascinating because I'm like, I just have
Speaker 7: we just have a church, like anybody go into our
Speaker 7: into the church. Yeah right, I don't know what's with
Speaker 7: the secret temple? Can we put and again, can we
Speaker 7: pull the picture back up? We pulled the picture back
Speaker 7: up and highlight this that looks more like a stockbroker's
Speaker 7: like a banking system, and it does the.
Speaker 1: Encompassing a lot of bald heads on there, a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of all. I can find my CPA
Speaker 1: right there, not necessarily necessarily my pastor. Listen, this has
Speaker 1: been fun. This has been a we gotta we gotta
Speaker 1: get once we'll put up death.
Speaker 2: I was like, we really should get the fuck out
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Speaker 7: Does anybody know what on the one on hills with
Speaker 7: the mink is that Minka Micah? What's that temple all
Speaker 7: about down there?
Speaker 1: T'me my up Ethel No old went on Old Hickory
Speaker 1: and on Hillsborough in the corner of Old Hills Grown
Speaker 1: on Hickory or I think it's on that or just
Speaker 1: like those you're going to Franklin m I c h
Speaker 1: A Like yeah, if you're going, uh south on Hillsborough right, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: past it past that all the way down right on
Speaker 1: Old on Old Hickory and hills Brothers that like in
Speaker 1: my c h A Micah temple or something. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but that I know Bethel.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people up in arms about Bethel,
Speaker 2: which is on Old Hickory right before Granny White.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I lived. I lived down the street from there.
Speaker 1: I've never gotten in that one, but yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was just like a Baptist church, isn't it. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I just know that I used to live off Mary
Speaker 2: Helen and Grannie White, which was like right next to
Speaker 2: greeny White Market, and uh, theres always be these big
Speaker 2: signs like stop Bethel and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: And I was like, oh, yeah, they were they were
Speaker 7: trying to know, they were trying to build out of that.
Speaker 7: We were trying to do some light show or something
Speaker 7: like that. Yeah, well it was nothing about the church.
Speaker 7: That's a Christian based church. You're gonna protect them.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I listen, I've never been in
Speaker 1: there outreach church world outreach.
Speaker 7: I think, right, yeah, okay, oh man, that's educated. But no,
Speaker 7: I will say this to all the all the moral
Speaker 7: listeners like I have. It was just just half joking.
Speaker 7: But I got a lot of good friends that.
Speaker 1: But again, hey, I love how we're all trying to
Speaker 1: tie up loose. Go ahead, I'm going there. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of good people in the Mormon religion of people
Speaker 1: these people say, I was actually gonna say, I wish
Speaker 1: someone would explain this to me. So when I was
Speaker 1: in college, I went to school with a bunch of missionaries, right,
Speaker 1: and they came, they came back, and they can play
Speaker 1: football to the thirty because you get, you know, an
Speaker 1: exemption to kill your NFL career.
Speaker 7: Yes, for sure, but you would they weren't allowed to
Speaker 7: drink pepsi on their missions trips.
Speaker 1: Or go in the water, was responsored by Coke.
Speaker 7: Well, then yeah, then they went and bought like I
Speaker 7: think they ended up buying fifty one percent of pepsi
Speaker 7: and then they could drink pepsi.
Speaker 1: Pro you're lying, it's true.
Speaker 7: And then I was told by a person one hundred
Speaker 7: percent the Mormon Church of the guy I can fucking
Speaker 7: mom the Mormon Church.
Speaker 1: The Mormon I watched TV, but you guys, definitely the
Speaker 1: Mormon Church at some point owned like a large chunk.
Speaker 1: I believe it was in PEPSI. Again, verify me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, I apologize, but I'm going to put out
Speaker 1: what's your social media one? Right, go ahead and verify
Speaker 1: me the wrong.
Speaker 7: I do apologize for I uh, but I was straight
Speaker 7: up told this out of the horse's mouth of a
Speaker 7: return missionary that said they weren't allowed to go on
Speaker 7: the water, like while they're on their mission trips.
Speaker 1: I was like, why couldn't you go on the water?
Speaker 1: They were like they said because in they're belief or
Speaker 1: whatever outside the United States or whatever it was, that
Speaker 1: the devil controlled the water. They weren't allowed to go
Speaker 1: into the water. Interesting again. Levels levels, it's levels levels, levels,
Speaker 1: I get listen, I like next. I'm sorry, Mormons, I
Speaker 1: really don't know. Here's here's what's Mormonism a real word? Yeah, yeah, Mormonism,
Speaker 1: Mormonism Okay, I just didn't know if we were just
Speaker 1: putting it. By the way, Hey, did you notice this?
Speaker 1: I did. I saw the little bag. I didn't say
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Speaker 1: don't want to fade fade that thing up right here
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't want to do that. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, what do you mean, it's the next move.
Speaker 2: I'll do it next time, just to fucking do it.
Speaker 2: But I don't like it real tight in the sides.
Speaker 2: I like to have a little bit of something here, yeah,
Speaker 2: like wings.
Speaker 1: You know, I do look like you faded yours on
Speaker 1: the side before I had it. I've had I've had
Speaker 1: it tired, I've had a Sometimes you gotta look at
Speaker 1: the racist stripes in there. Sometimes you gotta let the
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Speaker 7: We're just as long as we're going on the path
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, no, it's this. It's the stupidest thing on
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Speaker 7: Like again, I just don't understand. Like they make the
Speaker 7: most money, they should assume the most risk. In my opinion,
Speaker 7: the quarterback should assume the most risk. You make the
Speaker 7: most money.
Speaker 1: That's a strong start.
Speaker 7: The NFL wants to protect it, I get it, but
Speaker 7: don't but come out and just be honest about it.
Speaker 7: Don't say you're protecting it because of player safety, because
Speaker 7: it's not players safety.
Speaker 1: It's play your singular safety. You're protecting quarterbacks, that's all you're.
Speaker 7: Doing, and it I think it changes the outcome of
Speaker 7: games when from a defensive standpoint, you can't rattle a guy, right,
Speaker 7: I think anything malicious needs to be taken out right,
Speaker 7: and that you want tide about player safety. Take away
Speaker 7: you know intent, you know, inside out or outside in
Speaker 7: low blocks, right, and take away. And like even if
Speaker 7: a guard is pulling and you know we used the
Speaker 7: knife knees of guards that were pulling right crackbacks. I
Speaker 7: get all that, right, take take that the malicious out
Speaker 7: but you take like the Jones play, You take the
Speaker 7: there's so many examples of.
Speaker 1: Guys making great plays and then you getting punished for it,
Speaker 1: or you take you look at Tom Brady a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago with the Atlanta game.
Speaker 7: You look at it now, they're saying, like, I mean,
Speaker 7: you got pads on, right, So how are you supposed
Speaker 7: to be running full speed tackle somebody? But oh, let
Speaker 7: me gently lay you down. Sorry, I was never in
Speaker 7: that control of my body. I'm not that good of
Speaker 7: an athlete.
Speaker 1: So I just I just think you you hinder the
Speaker 1: tactics of the game, right, flashing in front of a quarterback,
Speaker 1: and you you know more you try to, like we
Speaker 1: try to be in contact with the quarterback all the time.
Speaker 7: I'm bumping them on the way back. I'm talking to them,
Speaker 7: I'm telling you and letting them know like we're coming,
Speaker 7: We're gonna be around them, because if I can get
Speaker 7: you to chicken wing a ball or you know, I
Speaker 7: think you're gonna get your hand hit on a helmet,
Speaker 7: or you know, if I can you know, look at
Speaker 7: the last play the Green Bay Commander's game a few
Speaker 7: weeks back, right, he steps in there and makes that
Speaker 7: throat of the sile on the out with a D
Speaker 7: lineman trying to like chicken wing him in his chest.
Speaker 1: Whether a D lineman would have ran through his neck,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 7: Put his helmet right unerneath his chin, or had his
Speaker 7: arm up not worrying about accidentally tapping him on the
Speaker 7: face mask into fifteen yards.
Speaker 1: Maybe that arm gets pulled back, Maybe that outcomes different.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 7: I just think, like you know, malicious hits should go away.
Speaker 7: But things that happened in the act of play, you know,
Speaker 7: by by throwing a flag on house, somebody puts somebody
Speaker 7: on the ground.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's ridiculous. Do you think following your
Speaker 1: entire body weight on a quarterback is fine?
Speaker 2: Okay, the rules are pretty ass backwards because if you're
Speaker 2: in the pocket, you can't go low in the quarterback.
Speaker 2: As soon as the quarterback breaks the pocket, the smartest
Speaker 2: move is to go low because if you go high,
Speaker 2: you can get a rough. In the past, hundred percent,
Speaker 2: it's a it's a backwards a deal.
Speaker 3: And even on the one with Brady again, that dude,
Speaker 3: it was the most he cowboy tackled him and just
Speaker 3: rolled him over his bike. What you're saying he threw
Speaker 3: him too hard to the ground, Yeah, which you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying Like that, it's basically like a rat tackle.
Speaker 3: He's doing everything right in the situation violence.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, I'm not gonna go on top
Speaker 1: of him. I'm not gonna be off top. He's around
Speaker 1: his waist and going like this and doesn't even like whiplash. No,
Speaker 1: as soon as you news he's going on and letting go. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well, then become popular because of the dancing and the
Speaker 7: end zone, you know what I mean. Like, it became
Speaker 7: popular because it was a violent sport and people like
Speaker 7: watching grown men and and you know, and and see
Speaker 7: the athleticism amongst that violence.
Speaker 1: Right, So to take that away or try to enact to.
Speaker 7: That again, you can the right way if he if
Speaker 7: he tackled the running back like that, Right, if he
Speaker 7: tackled the running back like that, fine, that's fine. But
Speaker 7: because it's the quarterback, so you're saying the quarterback is
Speaker 7: a bigger, worse than everybody else, right, I mean, that's
Speaker 7: that's my point of it.
Speaker 1: It's it's absolutely stupid. Yeah, I mean, it affects.
Speaker 7: The outcome of a game. You're penalizing a guy for winning.
Speaker 7: You're penalizing a guy for tackling somebody. How he's and
Speaker 7: he's already adjusted, right, he could have slammed and he
Speaker 7: rolled him over that, right there is agreedious Like Tom
Speaker 7: Brady should try to kick him, look at it. He
Speaker 7: should have thrown a flag on him or kick him.
Speaker 7: They should test the air on the ball. Oh yeah,
Speaker 7: the thing if you pancake me, right, if you were
Speaker 7: to dump a defensive end happened in twenty sixteen. I've
Speaker 7: watched the tape on that one. Let's review that. Let's
Speaker 7: review that please.
Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen, it probably apens I didn't play in twenty six,
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, fifteen, the review.
Speaker 7: Flag on that saying if you get dumped right by
Speaker 7: an office line or a defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: They're not calling that if I blow my shoulder out,
Speaker 1: because what's happened to me.
Speaker 7: I got landed on by somebody, blew my ac joint
Speaker 7: out and like eight right, and I can't remember what
Speaker 7: game it was, and that's not a not a penalty.
Speaker 7: So why is it that if a running back or
Speaker 7: a quarterback gets flung to the grounds, then it's fifteen
Speaker 7: yard And the statistics that show like if you get
Speaker 7: a penalty within a drive that continues at first, like
Speaker 7: most time, at least to a touchdown, so you're generally
Speaker 7: affecting the score.
Speaker 1: And that's what's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this last night when the Titans
Speaker 2: were playing the Chiefs. There were so many flags thrown
Speaker 2: on both teams. I think it was equal at the end,
Speaker 2: but uh, it seems like every year when you sit
Speaker 2: in team meetings, they always have refs come in to
Speaker 2: practice and they say, hey, these are the new rules.
Speaker 2: This is what the point of emphasis, emphasis is, and
Speaker 2: it's always like it's their idea of trying to meet
Speaker 2: the game better and safer. But it's like, there's so
Speaker 2: much more to worry about now you're thinking about too
Speaker 2: much shit. Yeah, when you're trying to play the game.
Speaker 2: Also scoring they have these stupid ideas in the uniform too,
Speaker 2: like who gives a shit how you wear your uniform.
Speaker 2: The big thing this year was you have to have
Speaker 2: your knee pads all over your knees. It's like, who
Speaker 2: fucking cares?
Speaker 1: I want to see the stat that says that little
Speaker 1: thin piece of foam, Yeah, good luck, good luck, And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you now, I don't let you know if
Speaker 1: you would have had your knee pad properly, it probably
Speaker 1: would have worked out. It's just fine. It definitely wasn't
Speaker 1: It was definitely up here.
Speaker 2: But it's just it's just frustrating because it seems like
Speaker 2: they do these tiki tacky things to make it seem
Speaker 2: like safety is a priority when you can do other
Speaker 2: things for safety. Helmets have gotten a whole lot better
Speaker 2: from when you started playing to the end of your career.
Speaker 2: You could see the helmets getting better.
Speaker 1: Rocked the original Ride Dell the whole time that I
Speaker 1: saw the one I wore the same one and it
Speaker 1: was it was a badass helmet, but they just neverminded
Speaker 1: it in like I think sixteen or.
Speaker 7: Some promise they came out with a concussion proof helmet.
Speaker 7: And then you take these dudes that are running like
Speaker 7: you got linebackers running, you know, sub four fours these days,
Speaker 7: right low four fours, and you're telling this guy he
Speaker 7: has a concussion proof helmet, and so he's gonna lead
Speaker 7: with his head and.
Speaker 2: Just right, you know, destroy himself. Yeah, that's it's just
Speaker 2: fucking The whole thing is a little frustrating. It seems
Speaker 2: like some of the passeengery of the game is being
Speaker 2: taken away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well again, Yeah, I think it just and they don't.
Speaker 7: I don't think they realize that there's there's strategical things
Speaker 7: about everything.
Speaker 1: Right. It's the same way, you know, you guys just
Speaker 1: be able to motion a tied end, you know, from
Speaker 1: the outside. Oh yeah, and get ear hold as I'm
Speaker 1: pass rush mode.
Speaker 2: I happened like two three times yesterday. And guess what
Speaker 2: they still allow that to happen. That's brutal.
Speaker 7: It wasn't Vandibosh. I think the Texans did it against
Speaker 7: you Goes Vanderbosh kids flown across, takes out a detackle's
Speaker 7: knee and again that's okay. But again I'm like, all right,
Speaker 7: let it ride, because that's the heck of a way
Speaker 7: to you know, to tour a defensive end from.
Speaker 1: I definitely got I gotta recognize, right. So I mean again,
Speaker 1: at what point is that like, well, a chip block?
Speaker 7: I mean, thinking about it, if you haven't taken a
Speaker 7: chip block to the rib cage, it doesn't feel good.
Speaker 7: You're you know, your liver, You're like what you chraikis
Speaker 7: how am I not defense? I'm engaged with somebody else
Speaker 7: and you're gonna, yeah, you're gonna attack that way. So
Speaker 7: I mean, so you go down that road, and I
Speaker 7: think it's just it's ridiculous. They need to everybody needs
Speaker 7: to assume the risk. Everybody's making a truckload of money.
Speaker 7: We all sign the dotted line on the contract. Nobody
Speaker 7: goes into the NFL or plays football with this idea
Speaker 7: that they're never going to get hurt and if they do,
Speaker 7: they're full of it. Their liars and every single one
Speaker 7: of them to uh, you know what, that was the
Speaker 7: big you know thing guarantee you if you told him
Speaker 7: before he signed one hundred million dollars contract, you're gonna
Speaker 7: get your head snapped off the turf and missed a
Speaker 7: couple of games with a concussion. You still want to
Speaker 7: do this? He would say yes every single time. You know,
Speaker 7: I mean, they're not You're not turning down that kind
Speaker 7: of money. You're not turning down that kind of passion.
Speaker 7: And again he probably told the guys he was good
Speaker 7: to go back. I'm not saying you don't need to
Speaker 7: look out for people. You know, you got to remove
Speaker 7: people from themselves. Sometimes that's definitely thing.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, the assumed risk is there,
Speaker 1: and you just you're you're you diminish the product. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, the more you try to overside it overside
Speaker 1: it over.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, they get to the point where they
Speaker 3: knew it a little too much just because again you
Speaker 3: assume the risk going in. I understand taking out some
Speaker 3: of like the cut blocks, the knifing guys out, like
Speaker 3: going low on quarterback, like you're trying to make it
Speaker 3: to save it, like as safe as you can. But
Speaker 3: again it's like part of that that gladiator of violence
Speaker 3: that you you were, like people pay for you were
Speaker 3: like growing up, you like love seeing that ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, well, and I talk of this all the time,
Speaker 2: like when you're younger, you're in high school, in college,
Speaker 2: even your first couple of years the leak, Like you
Speaker 2: think to yourself, if I die out here today, what
Speaker 2: a way to go?
Speaker 1: What a way to go out?
Speaker 7: What aut Oh like catch a one handed catch, get
Speaker 7: hit and crack my neck and just be laying there but.
Speaker 1: You caught, but you got it. Yeah, it's just funny movie.
Speaker 1: Jerreed maguire. Yeah, I mean come on, right, right, right right?
Speaker 1: What do you say? He's like, just let me take
Speaker 1: it in, Just take it in, show the money.
Speaker 2: It really is like, uh, this this idea we have,
Speaker 2: like you get brainwashing football, like you legit, go in
Speaker 2: there and you're like, I'm willing to die for the.
Speaker 1: University of Michigan or Nebraska. Yeah, so much today with
Speaker 1: the transfer portal that is that is way different.
Speaker 2: We missed that like transfer when even when Will and
Speaker 2: I played, it's like you'd have to miss a year
Speaker 2: sit out of you like there's a whole bunch of
Speaker 2: different hoops you have to jump through.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, and then you couldn't You couldn't go accept
Speaker 7: money if you didn't get your release, and then you
Speaker 7: had Yeah there was Now it's like just the fairest wheel.
Speaker 1: Of what was what was your recruiting process? Like in
Speaker 1: high school? Oh, it was good. I decided to play
Speaker 1: a prank and well not me, but I was a
Speaker 1: part of it.
Speaker 7: The football team, the seniors and the football team. Excuse me, yeah,
Speaker 7: I can't can't clear your throat no more.
Speaker 1: And now everybody we just made fun of, like your
Speaker 1: voice anyway you so the entire time covid from making
Speaker 1: fun of people what what a turkey is? But no,
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 7: My rooting process was strong until we decided to steal
Speaker 7: all the yearbooks at the school and by still borrow
Speaker 7: them because we thought it was funny. The school did
Speaker 7: not think it was funny when you know a bunch
Speaker 7: of people that paid for the yearbooks didn't get their yearbooks.
Speaker 1: How did you steal the yearbooks? We took them? Yeah
Speaker 1: where storage room? No?
Speaker 7: No, no, So like we knew everybody, the yearbook committee,
Speaker 7: so the entire football team, and like the senior pranks,
Speaker 7: we went and had Yeah, we took the boxes and
Speaker 7: then like I had.
Speaker 1: Like three in my car, and you know, I sold
Speaker 1: them to a couple of people at a discount of price. Opportunity.
Speaker 1: I saw opportunity, opportunity. So they didn't really like me.
Speaker 7: The school who was I was on an interest insur
Speaker 7: district transfer And I was a little bit of a
Speaker 7: hell and as a as a kid, and so.
Speaker 1: I took the fall because you know, snitches get stitches.
Speaker 1: I refused to rat on anybody guy, and uh, I
Speaker 1: took the fall. They kicked me out of school recruit
Speaker 1: for a Hell's angel for real, right right back at
Speaker 1: the beginning.
Speaker 7: And now you and now you know why I became
Speaker 7: a Christian one or the other, one way or the other.
Speaker 7: You that's how I probably would have been open to Mormonism.
Speaker 1: So were you get recruited by big where you getting
Speaker 1: recruited by big schools?
Speaker 7: In the University of Washington, I thought I was one
Speaker 7: of you. I was like playing in the pack ten,
Speaker 7: That's all I ever thought.
Speaker 1: Ye ended up at Idaho State and they were beating
Speaker 1: down my door every day, like Coach Bray was up
Speaker 1: every week, was there?
Speaker 7: So But yeah, that's that's how mine got. Then I
Speaker 7: went to Los Gadows and then I'll never forget. Like
Speaker 7: I commuted, I s you went there and I came back.
Speaker 1: One time when I went into my coach's office and
Speaker 1: I saw my box of like my hall my senior
Speaker 1: film was still in.
Speaker 7: His office, and I was like, noose shit I got.
Speaker 7: I got a call from Stanford. They came to practice
Speaker 7: the viewer tight end. He had like a four point
Speaker 7: eight GPA or something like that. I got a call
Speaker 7: from a random number.
Speaker 1: I was at a you know, high school volleyball game
Speaker 1: or something on Friday, so acting like a real idiot,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, this guy said, this is
Speaker 1: a coach from Stanford. And he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: we watched your practice day. We'd love you know, you know,
Speaker 1: Greg Schandler would love you to come up and take
Speaker 1: a visit this. Then there he's like, what you get
Speaker 1: on your GP on your your SATs. I was like
Speaker 1: nine sixty. Yeah. He was like you play on Takemo again.
Speaker 1: I was like he was like nope. He was like
Speaker 1: all right, well dog.
Speaker 2: You no doubt Stanford's dude. So I had a two
Speaker 2: point seven gpa. Uh at the end of my senior year.
Speaker 2: That's how I got I got in that motherfucker. But
Speaker 2: like when I was like going through that process, Stanford
Speaker 2: Jim Harball came to my school. They were recruiting this kid,
Speaker 2: this d N Craig Row and they're like, hey, we
Speaker 2: love your film. Like they look at my transcript. They
Speaker 2: literally laughed and they said they had there's no show
Speaker 2: and they just laugh left.
Speaker 7: We get one. We get one scholarship a year that
Speaker 7: that we get to push through. It's like and we
Speaker 7: always use that on a skilled position. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 7: well I was like look if yeah, I know, it
Speaker 7: wasn't on my list either, but I ended up there
Speaker 7: the Bengals, babe. And then I actually so my sophomore
Speaker 7: year I was going to transfer. Our coach with Paressa
Speaker 7: was our offensive coordinator, and he transferred. He went to
Speaker 7: USC and he called me. He's like, hey, we got
Speaker 7: a scholarship. Your name on it if you want it, right,
Speaker 7: And I was like yeah, man. So I go to
Speaker 7: get my release and my coach was like nope, and
Speaker 7: see no transfer portal right, So he's like you got
Speaker 7: to stick it out of state, which I'm glad I
Speaker 7: did because I, you know, I hadn't accomplished all the goals.
Speaker 1: I wanted to do there anyways, But what year was
Speaker 1: that for you? Goodness? So I could create a two thousands.
Speaker 1: It was two thousand and two, going to two thousand
Speaker 1: and two season. I was trying to transfer to SC
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, sir, like all right, coach.
Speaker 1: So you end up getting drafted by Kansas City in
Speaker 1: the fourth round, fourth round? You have fourth round? What uh?
Speaker 2: And obviously it seems like things were going well in
Speaker 2: Kansas City to get traded for a first and two
Speaker 2: third round picks, that's pretty incredible to Minnesota eventually, but
Speaker 2: before that you had to go through like a tender
Speaker 2: year and a franchise year trying to get a deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that was the frustrating part, right.
Speaker 7: So uh, when I played on my contract, you know,
Speaker 7: you know, I got a bit of trouble with my
Speaker 7: third my third year. So I told them, I was like, hey,
Speaker 7: let me prove to you guys like that I'm matured out.
Speaker 1: I got this handled. You know, I'm just acting good done.
Speaker 1: Were there issues in the first couple of years, you know,
Speaker 1: just third year?
Speaker 7: I mean, at some point, you know, you give you
Speaker 7: give a young kid with nothing but time and too
Speaker 7: much money in his pocket at that time, you know not.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what it was when you could.
Speaker 1: What year did you come in? Uh?
Speaker 7: My first year is twenty fourteen. Oh geez, your league
Speaker 7: minimum was insane. Our league minimum was two twenty five. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and then they took half of that in taxes four fifty. Yeah,
Speaker 7: in a good fight. It's so uh relax, I was
Speaker 7: finding that good after sonny, but no got hurt after
Speaker 7: was hurt a little bit. Yeah, so said, yeah, were
Speaker 7: still find a good fight.
Speaker 1: I got to buy it. I got to buy it.
Speaker 1: I have to buy a brand new use truck. That's
Speaker 1: what I got. Yeah, and so no, I don't know
Speaker 1: where I was going with that now, but so yeah,
Speaker 1: so young like making six figures. This is insane. So
Speaker 1: getting get controlled a little bit my third year. And
Speaker 1: are you able to talk about the trouble? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I got caught. I got to do two d u
Speaker 1: y s. Are you drunk right now? No? No? No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it was a bad, bad, bad time for me.
Speaker 7: Bad time was just rant and dumb and just you know,
Speaker 7: actually no responsibility, right, living living like you have no responsibility,
Speaker 7: didn't understand what being a role model was or being
Speaker 7: or being a productive part of society because I was
Speaker 7: a complete meat stick, right, I played football, drink beers.
Speaker 1: What I do when you went on Jackass?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 7: No, I went on Jackass years years later. And so
Speaker 7: so anyways, I went through that I was. I told him,
Speaker 7: I was like, hey, let me let me prove to
Speaker 7: you guys, I got this handled, right.
Speaker 1: I mean I went and did this, you know, outpatient,
Speaker 1: like alcohol classes, all this stuff. I was, I gotta
Speaker 1: figure if I got a problem, I got a problem,
Speaker 1: own it, you know, literally talking about my grandfather. He
Speaker 1: called me, he was like, listen, I didn't bring this
Speaker 1: last name through three wars and multiple complicts for you
Speaker 1: to f it up.
Speaker 7: So I figure it out, no ship, yes, sir. So
Speaker 7: I was like, let me figure this out. And honestly,
Speaker 7: I mean it was a maturity show. I think I
Speaker 7: was a distant, dumb kid, you know, hair on fire,
Speaker 7: like I used to think.
Speaker 1: I got played on the edge, so I had to
Speaker 1: live on the edge, right, and so so you know,
Speaker 1: but so I went to them and told him like, hey,
Speaker 1: like let's just let's pause this. I'll sign my tender, right.
Speaker 1: But I told him I was like, if you franchised me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be pissed.
Speaker 7: So long story short, we get through the tender year, right,
Speaker 7: going to uh, you know, lead the league and sacks
Speaker 7: all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Get ready to get my contract. You led the league
Speaker 1: your tender year my fourth year by the way.
Speaker 7: Yeah, in fourteen games, right, So I'm like, you know,
Speaker 7: we got this and I'm thinking I'm getting into you know,
Speaker 7: we gave them what we at that time, which was
Speaker 7: going to be a great contract. They turned it down
Speaker 7: and I'll never forget the breaking straw. We had a
Speaker 7: We had a phone call we were supposed to be
Speaker 7: on with Carl had Peters and a Danny film. You
Speaker 7: may age jump on the call. They set the call up,
Speaker 7: by the way. It wasn't like we were like, hey,
Speaker 7: can we call it this time? So we got on
Speaker 7: a call, We wait for twenty minutes on hold. Denny
Speaker 7: gets on the phone and goes, we're gonna have tough schedule.
Speaker 7: Carl had to leave the country.
Speaker 1: Like I just on a whim. You had to leave
Speaker 1: the country, you guys schedule this call you had. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, that's the last straw. I
Speaker 1: called Clark and I was like, here's your guys. The option.
Speaker 1: Do you either trade me or you rent me for
Speaker 1: two years? And I promise you had pull a hamstring
Speaker 1: every time, like when I come in, I'm coming in
Speaker 1: week six and uh, pull a hamstring? Yeah? Or we
Speaker 1: I think I play six games. So got them to trade,
Speaker 1: asked got them to give his permission to trade toxic
Speaker 1: during the franchise year. Yeah. No, no, I didn't play
Speaker 1: the franchise year. Someone never signed the franchise tender until
Speaker 1: we had we had to sign and trade and deal with.
Speaker 1: So so I got them, what's the kid, what's the Uh,
Speaker 1: I'll bow after six weeks? What'd you have to do
Speaker 1: for six weeks? No, you have to you have to
Speaker 1: play at least six weeks.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry. So I could show up. We tend you
Speaker 7: have to put at least six weeks to get a
Speaker 7: credited year.
Speaker 1: Gotcha at that time, because now it's three games.
Speaker 7: Now that's time you had to you had to be
Speaker 7: on the raj you know, six weeks. So I could
Speaker 7: basically hold out for ten weeks show up for six.
Speaker 7: And I told him, I was like, pull a hamstring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, be good.
Speaker 7: So, you know, got them to allow me to trade,
Speaker 7: get the trade and talk to Tampa Minnesota, and then
Speaker 7: got the deal done with Minnesota. But during that time,
Speaker 7: it was like hat God said, dude, because the white
Speaker 7: Freenni comes out and breaks the bank, right. You know,
Speaker 7: back then I was trying to get seven a year
Speaker 7: ap y and because I was right run where Jason
Speaker 7: Taylor was getting he was top five in the league
Speaker 7: at the time, and then Freeney comes in gets twelve
Speaker 7: a year and I'm like sitting here like, well my
Speaker 7: numbers are passing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm getting super paid, right, super duper paid.
Speaker 7: And so that ended up ended up working out, and uh,
Speaker 7: you know it was tough because you know, Herm and
Speaker 7: I have a great relationship he was my coach at
Speaker 7: the time there, and I have a great relationship to
Speaker 7: chiefs now like you know, they have happen me back
Speaker 7: multiple times. So no hard feelings, but yeah, was it
Speaker 7: was a tough time because I'd never I was still
Speaker 7: this meets like you said in college, your brainwashed, like
Speaker 7: you run through prick walls because they said, I come
Speaker 7: in with a meal, who's old school, right, Like he'll
Speaker 7: beat you into a pulp, but then give you a
Speaker 7: hug and tell you he loves you and you're.
Speaker 1: Like my dirt sixty like mine.
Speaker 7: No, I needed your approval like a father. I'm a
Speaker 7: good relationship my father, but I'm in yeah, man, And
Speaker 7: so then you know, so I'm dealing with.
Speaker 1: The business side of this thing now, and it was due.
Speaker 1: It was hectic.
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna lie, but uh, I said, I worked
Speaker 7: out great. Minnesota was phenomenal, obviously. Uh my career path
Speaker 7: worked out okay, But yeah, I'm more lucky on all
Speaker 7: my trades. I asked to be traded and ended up
Speaker 7: in the place I wanted to be and uh never
Speaker 7: got cut, So it.
Speaker 1: Worked out all right.
Speaker 2: What was that situation like where you were literally with
Speaker 2: Kansas City say, I'm not playing for you guys.
Speaker 1: You know you have to trade me, so obviously it's cold.
Speaker 2: And then you get Tampa Bay in Minnesota and they're
Speaker 2: both You're negotiating a contract while you're getting traded, right yeah.
Speaker 7: So yeah, so you got permission at first, we were
Speaker 7: only getting permission to talk to Tampa, right, which was fine.
Speaker 1: I'm a Grooden and a group of Raiders fan yeah, grinder, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so I don't even know what that was. But
Speaker 1: it was awesome. I got the T shirt and everything.
Speaker 7: Cool, Like I don't have one of those. That's accomplishment.
Speaker 7: So but then there I think it was it Bruce Allen.
Speaker 7: Was it Bruce Allen or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yea Bruce Allen. Yeah, so he starts talking the
Speaker 1: same nonsense.
Speaker 7: They were like, wanted to put restrictions on my contract
Speaker 7: because you know, he always at risk, this.
Speaker 1: That and the other.
Speaker 7: And I was like, man, I'm not going from one
Speaker 7: organization that doesn't believe in me to the next. And
Speaker 7: then you know, so we went visit Minnesota first and
Speaker 7: they just didn't let me leave. And you know, so
Speaker 7: it worked out all right, So you actually went to
Speaker 7: Minnesota and was like checking it all out and everything.
Speaker 1: Yes, so we got we got permission to get to
Speaker 1: seat the trade. Right we went up there.
Speaker 7: He's like, I said, you got to hammer out the contract, right,
Speaker 7: So now we're but not only that, we're trying to
Speaker 7: hammer out the contract. So we finally get the contract
Speaker 7: hammer out, but they're trying to hammer out compensation for
Speaker 7: the chiefs all right, So I mean it could have
Speaker 7: paid me whatever, but as the chieftain agree to the
Speaker 7: compensation and it's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're really not only.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so you know, for them to for them to
Speaker 7: give up at that time, you know, a first two
Speaker 7: thirds and make me the highest Bay defensive playing NFL history,
Speaker 7: it was.
Speaker 1: It was a nice thing. That's that's where you're a dude.
Speaker 1: It was I'm not a liar. Stressful. So not only
Speaker 1: like that, it was just like not only did maybe
Speaker 1: the highest pain.
Speaker 7: You know, they mortgaged the farm to make sure I'm
Speaker 7: not a bus So luckily for you, I'm a kind
Speaker 7: of you know, I try not to have a rest
Speaker 7: of my laurels, right, I'm I. I always trying to
Speaker 7: outdo myself and very self motivated. So uh it worked out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was. It was.
Speaker 7: It's a stressful time when you're doing it. I was
Speaker 7: in the room for all the negotiations. You're sitting there like,
Speaker 7: what the hell is going on here?
Speaker 2: I'm fucking button up collar shirt that you found in
Speaker 2: the back of your closet.
Speaker 1: I guess I'll wear this today. You're sitting there still got.
Speaker 2: Wrinkles all over it, and they're over there hammering out
Speaker 2: business calls and you're like, holy fuck, Yeah, it's gnarly.
Speaker 1: Was it a fresh start in Minnesota. Is that a
Speaker 1: thing where you're like, you know, you're about to go
Speaker 1: to a new team, and you're kind of like, fuck,
Speaker 1: like I really wanted to be Here's here's the deal,
Speaker 1: Like it's it.
Speaker 7: It's actually scary, right, because now that's why I actually
Speaker 7: got I got respect for Brady on what he was
Speaker 7: able to do in Tampa's first year there. Right, you
Speaker 7: go from being in somewhere your entire career coaches city,
Speaker 7: you know, routine strength, coach everything right to figuring out
Speaker 7: something new. So I got like Minnesota was awesome because
Speaker 7: like I had my trainers in Arizona that I worked with, Right,
Speaker 7: I'm coming off, you know, I you know, I got
Speaker 7: my weight where I wanted to be, just at the
Speaker 7: league in sacks like I have.
Speaker 1: I'm in a rhythm now and I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: this is I know how I need to train and
Speaker 1: I see what success is.
Speaker 7: But a lot of times you go somewhere new, like
Speaker 7: when I went to Chicago, like they went also, they
Speaker 7: want you in the weight room. Everybody wants to coach
Speaker 7: the new toy, right, And you're like, so I gotta
Speaker 7: give Minnesota credit, Like I told Brad I'm like, listen,
Speaker 7: I'll come up here for a little bit of you know,
Speaker 7: OTAs and this kind of stuff like that. But you know,
Speaker 7: get settled in. But you know, I got to get
Speaker 7: back with my trainers. You guys, you guys want me
Speaker 7: at this level. This is the level I gotta be at.
Speaker 1: And Tom Canavy, you know Canavy, I know he was
Speaker 1: my strength. Hey, Jared Allen by the way, and so,
Speaker 1: but like he had no ego and wasn't like hammered
Speaker 1: me on like have to do his work guys. And
Speaker 1: the other totally cool like hey, what do you need
Speaker 1: from me type of guy. Yeah, And it was great
Speaker 1: and so they made it feel like home.
Speaker 7: And they had Kevin and Patt who I mean, our
Speaker 7: D line room was so crazy crazy competitive.
Speaker 1: You didn't even matter, right, You didn't want to show up.
Speaker 7: You weren't worried about showing up on film on Sunday
Speaker 7: or on Monday to like for the for the team
Speaker 7: meeting or defensive meeting to get ripped. Like if you
Speaker 7: had a bad game, you didn't want to get that
Speaker 7: D line room. You were really each other pour apart.
Speaker 7: Like I got there, my I think I had like
Speaker 7: fifty seven tackles and fourteen and.
Speaker 1: A half sacks started fifteen and a half sacks and
Speaker 1: o seven right.
Speaker 7: Uh, the year before that had like sixty five almost
Speaker 7: seve one year, I think I had close to seventy
Speaker 7: tackles in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: And I got there and they're like, we played the
Speaker 1: run here, brot better check my staff playing the runs.
Speaker 8: Yeah, take yeah.
Speaker 1: From Marty Ball here.
Speaker 7: And I was like, we come from Marty ball, dude,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. I'm like back in back
Speaker 7: in the day where you know we're playing. Uh, there's
Speaker 7: San Diego and they got a three hundred pounds tided.
Speaker 7: Jason Dunn was a three hundred pounds tighten with us, right,
Speaker 7: and and so they're they're they're giving me hard time,
Speaker 7: Like you better.
Speaker 1: We earned the ride around here. And on my first
Speaker 1: of ball, I got more sacks than any of you
Speaker 1: guys got combined. Yeah, but I love it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, Patty came like Kim was one of
Speaker 7: my closest buddies dude, And uh, I love those guys
Speaker 7: my brothers, like, because we just pushed each other non stop.
Speaker 1: Dude. It was just like me again, you couldn't you
Speaker 1: couldn't slack because they were coming.
Speaker 7: I'll never forget like Kevin jumped out he had like
Speaker 7: five or six sacks early and O four and i
Speaker 7: was sitting at like one or two and I'm like,
Speaker 7: they're gonna like they're paying me all this money. I'm
Speaker 7: getting beat by a three technique.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, this dude was on insane face,
Speaker 1: but the numbers up Homeie. It was. It was. It
Speaker 1: was one of those deals.
Speaker 7: Where it couldn't have been better for my personality for
Speaker 7: that time of my life, my career to be in
Speaker 7: Minnesota because you know that I was saying iron sharpens iron,
Speaker 7: but I mean it was you know, more like you
Speaker 7: had bulldozers pushing you because you know you didn't want
Speaker 7: to be that guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well were what are some some teams or tackles
Speaker 1: Now that you look back on your career, like what
Speaker 1: were games and players that you looked at You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm about to eat this dude up.
Speaker 3: A lot of them, a lot of them, you go,
Speaker 3: he I mean his career and you averaged over ten
Speaker 3: if you look at you play, what twelve.
Speaker 1: Years, eleven eleven and some change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you're averaging ten sacs a year, like it's stylistic.
Speaker 3: You have to know, like, all right, I'm about to
Speaker 3: get a bump this week because I'm going to get
Speaker 3: so tight.
Speaker 7: Well, it depends it's stylistic too, right, So you hate
Speaker 7: to play a guy, No, you hate to play a team.
Speaker 7: Like I said, I I would rather play against Taylor right,
Speaker 7: all pro guy because they're gonna leave him alone.
Speaker 1: They're not.
Speaker 7: You're not gonna get all the help, right, So it's
Speaker 7: gonna come down to who's better that day, yeah, versus
Speaker 7: you're playing against you know, I don't know when Green
Speaker 7: Bay had like you know, they.
Speaker 1: Moved Darren College from guard out to tackle. They had TJ. Lay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get chip, You're gonna get this. They don't
Speaker 1: have a technique.
Speaker 7: Or if you're playing against the guy who just likes
Speaker 7: to float back and gather, like you know, a lot
Speaker 7: of times you play against the guy you're like, oh,
Speaker 7: this dude's a scrub. I'm gonna I'm gonna smash him.
Speaker 7: But guess what, you're gonna get tight end ship, You're
Speaker 7: gonna get this.
Speaker 1: You're gonna do this.
Speaker 7: Where if I got a guy that's okay, he's rhythmic
Speaker 7: he's got strong he's got strong hands, Like, let's hand fight,
Speaker 7: Like we're gonna hand fight. I'm gonna eventually win at
Speaker 7: some point, right, And so guys like that or you know,
Speaker 7: even you know a quarterback you play play a guy
Speaker 7: that's got a decent tackle and a good quarterback, all right,
Speaker 7: they're gonna they want people downfield. They don't want people inside,
Speaker 7: you know, to help it out. So that was more
Speaker 7: of a deal of what games I was gonna get,
Speaker 7: my my matchups I want right versus games like, oh crap,
Speaker 7: this dude, they got a bomb a quarterback, you know,
Speaker 7: playing the back like.
Speaker 1: We're playing the backup quarterback. We're getting three step all
Speaker 1: day long.
Speaker 7: That's why I love playing Jason Peters, right, our styles
Speaker 7: matched up against each other. For me, well, because he's
Speaker 7: he's a Pro Bowl tackle, they're not gonna give want help.
Speaker 1: He has a similar set every single time set every
Speaker 1: time I know how to rhythm break him right, like
Speaker 1: you know the same thing.
Speaker 7: It's like you know you've been playing against you, like
Speaker 7: I would know your rhythm right, But that was that
Speaker 7: that screws that goes against me. If he rhythm breaks right,
Speaker 7: if he does you're gonna catch him. But also then
Speaker 7: then that quarterback. So when they had Mariota, you getting
Speaker 7: not not only rushing against the tackle, you're rushing against
Speaker 7: now with mobile quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So what might work so he can.
Speaker 7: Get away with he can get away with probably being
Speaker 7: over the top more for example, because if I take
Speaker 7: an inside move, Marrio is just gonna sleep put it
Speaker 7: in his vision right away home. In his vision, he's
Speaker 7: gonna signe step over Walter Jones that way. Walter Jones
Speaker 7: would cut you off then bail straight back.
Speaker 1: And you think you had this inside route, and then
Speaker 1: Hasselback would step you know, just slide over or walls
Speaker 1: it a a wall, right would roll out, and you're
Speaker 1: just like, I feel like I'm getting such a good rush.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm getting no results. And
Speaker 1: sometimes that's how it is.
Speaker 7: Sometimes you might have a good rush game, but you
Speaker 7: get no results. Some days it might be sloppy as
Speaker 7: all the hell.
Speaker 1: And you might take too you know, take two. It's
Speaker 1: one of those games.
Speaker 7: It's but yeah, there's there's certain guys and then you
Speaker 7: can see trends of the offense right like, so you know,
Speaker 7: you never want to play a team right after they
Speaker 7: just gave up like eight, You're like, oh, that's like
Speaker 7: you want to begnificant murdered in the room. You want
Speaker 7: to play a team that You're like, all right, did
Speaker 7: they They've been giving up consistently, like two or three
Speaker 7: four games, you know what I mean. And then you're like,
Speaker 7: they're not gonna do They're not gonna go overboard because
Speaker 7: they still just score points. And then yeah, them, So, yeah,
Speaker 7: we had to play Chicago. I got to play Chicago
Speaker 7: one time after I think what was it the dude
Speaker 7: from the Niners got like five on them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, Yeah, it's not gonna happen. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: be a solid Yeah. Well here goes max Pro every
Speaker 1: freaking day. Yeah, seven man pro H two H three
Speaker 1: type stuff. Yeah. That uh, that stuff's well.
Speaker 2: When you were in Minnesota, you guys were playing the
Speaker 2: youuys were playing in Tampa Bay. Fourth quarter either you
Speaker 2: guys are down I think thirteen points thirty to seventeen,
Speaker 2: and Donald Penn I don't want to say big dogs you,
Speaker 2: but he kind of baked dogs you for a second.
Speaker 2: From the helmet off, he had you bleeding down the nose.
Speaker 2: It looked very cool. By the way, he looked very cool.
Speaker 2: And then there was like a minute and a half
Speaker 2: of time stoping, so you guys could talk ship to
Speaker 2: each other forever. And obviously the next player you get
Speaker 2: a big sack. And then fucking that old Minnesota stadium
Speaker 2: was going fucking wild.
Speaker 1: Ye that was that was? What was that situation like
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 7: Donald Pint and I Donald likes the chirp as much
Speaker 7: as I like the chirp. Yeah, and so it most
Speaker 7: of the time plays in my hand. I remind him
Speaker 7: on my brother, like you've never not gotten a sack
Speaker 7: on you.
Speaker 1: So it's a tough thing to tell somebody, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So eventually it's happening. Yes, this is
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Just lay down. So I lay it down,
Speaker 1: go and taste it sitting inside.
Speaker 7: Move and you know, he's giving a little extra right like.
Speaker 1: You pull pulled that clip up because it goes hard.
Speaker 1: I slide, you know, and I kind of like I'm
Speaker 1: already down.
Speaker 7: So he's trying to bury me into the ground and
Speaker 7: I'm like, bro, like we already watched, but she's on
Speaker 7: your feet, which but I'm like block me. So I'm
Speaker 7: telling I'm obviously talking trash because I know he's pushing me.
Speaker 7: Eide right, So I'm like, I'm like, dude, you know,
Speaker 7: block me straight up while you hit me in the back.
Speaker 7: You know, you said some choice words, and in the process,
Speaker 7: you know, of exchanging, my helmet comes down and busts
Speaker 7: my nose open, right, helmet comes off, you know, I
Speaker 7: hold him, you know, like like my seven you know,
Speaker 7: like your little brother or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you see, I came for an inside move.
Speaker 1: See that's the one right there, That's the one I
Speaker 1: was pushing to finish, saying.
Speaker 7: I'm already on my knees, like you're gonna try to
Speaker 7: now you're trying to take a little extra.
Speaker 1: Which, yeah, I get it. I'm all for it. No
Speaker 1: mullet there, by the way, no mullet.
Speaker 7: Helmet comes off you. Then they're throwing punches at me,
Speaker 7: rips my helmet off. I had by the face mask,
Speaker 7: Like all I do is holding my face mask, and so.
Speaker 1: Oh we gotta we gotta like a fight right here.
Speaker 1: So I go for an inside moved. That's a terrible,
Speaker 1: terrible rush by me right there. I trip.
Speaker 7: This is the one I this is one I had
Speaker 7: cosmetics right there, and now you still want to go
Speaker 7: right That's when my nose gets bloody when my helmet
Speaker 7: comes off so little.
Speaker 1: That's far right there the whole dude, you never want
Speaker 1: to be you you got, bro, that's a bitch of
Speaker 1: a move, Dude, I hate did you have the long
Speaker 1: arms and there's fucking holding you at a distance? So
Speaker 1: is it is a volume on this thing because you
Speaker 1: can hear the whole stadium is going throw the ball
Speaker 1: up seventeen to thirty, seventeen to thirty. You can't always
Speaker 1: come in the bite. He's like, oh yeah, bits, oh
Speaker 1: you can't get hear. Here's my address, bro, Like, here's
Speaker 1: here's my address.
Speaker 2: We can while this clip is going on right now,
Speaker 2: Chris Collinsworth is just doing this. He's on zipping Aunce.
Speaker 2: He's pulling that fucking thing out and he's about to
Speaker 2: go a ham on him.
Speaker 1: He was watched this guy.
Speaker 2: I guarantee they're not exchanging phone numbers right now. They
Speaker 2: just started really getting into it, like WAITNTE, I probably
Speaker 2: gave him.
Speaker 1: My number one, you lie, give a lion. Here's my
Speaker 1: he's a big ass address. Here's my It's on the
Speaker 1: next play. This is the very next play. Here's my address,
Speaker 1: here's my phone number anytime any players. That's wrong? Oh
Speaker 1: so little storry, Like, what a fucking deal that you
Speaker 1: couldn't have drawn that up better? They would wouldn't too.
Speaker 1: I would have judged the best. I would have jumped
Speaker 1: out the size you were going. You were fucking going,
Speaker 1: losing your fucking mind right now. That was a dope, mama,
Speaker 1: right there. That was a good one. And you go,
Speaker 1: I get a sack on you all the time. Just
Speaker 1: let it happen. I know you're hype, right Is it
Speaker 1: a game? They trying to ship me too?
Speaker 7: Like, you know what I'm saying. So ever since it
Speaker 7: was like what do you want to do? And I
Speaker 7: was like, just go, I'm running through this dude's neck, right, Yeah,
Speaker 7: there is to it. It's it's all you know.
Speaker 1: We were just going. But that actually worked his disadvantage,
Speaker 1: right Like, But that's my argument.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta pick and choose the time you talked
Speaker 2: ship because from ar working at a third and seventeen,
Speaker 2: you're probably gonna wait to that first and ten to
Speaker 2: go back heyn when I bitched you.
Speaker 7: But remember that at the same time, I'm trying to
Speaker 7: I'm sitting over there, and that's what I was starting
Speaker 7: telling Mike Bro, you're that good?
Speaker 1: Like why they chipping him white chipping? Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Donnald was a big man. I mean he was that.
Speaker 1: But he'll go, he'll like, did you win after a
Speaker 1: troll in the parking lot got out of the rolls?
Speaker 1: I honestly like his personality. I love his personality is great.
Speaker 2: And he was an undrafted guy too, right, like Minnesota's
Speaker 2: practice hell.
Speaker 7: Always, he always he came from Minnesota's practice squad when
Speaker 7: you were there, no, no, before I was there, So
Speaker 7: he always had had something to prove against Minnesota, right,
Speaker 7: and he went on to have a great career the Raiders.
Speaker 7: And so him and I always mouthed and job back
Speaker 7: and forth at each other. I actually to meet. Those
Speaker 7: are the fun skate If you want to actually get
Speaker 7: to me, don't say anything, right, if you're quiet and
Speaker 7: don't talk like, that's not fun. Now It's like, okay,
Speaker 7: I got no one to, you know, to talk trash to.
Speaker 7: But yeah, him and I had some battles and it
Speaker 7: always ended in people getting dog.
Speaker 1: Cuts and all that stuff.
Speaker 7: And uh but see that's right there, right, So this
Speaker 7: is where this is what works right there, So he
Speaker 7: he knows I'm coming for a bull rush, right, he's
Speaker 7: leaning so lean and leans and actually he knew he
Speaker 7: had Chip help, so he stopped short right, so that
Speaker 7: allowed Eversin to clear. So if he he actually wouldn't
Speaker 7: have had Chip help on that and he would just set,
Speaker 7: we'd never got to the quarterback.
Speaker 2: But you know, just talking ball, you know, that is
Speaker 2: a big does a big win when the coaches see
Speaker 2: a fiery talk going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, we're gonna throw my chip real quick. Just
Speaker 1: exture everything's smooth, just to make sure everything goes as planned.
Speaker 1: I was kind of looking at the side. You appreciate
Speaker 1: you ball?
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I would, but like a lot more times
Speaker 7: than not, the chipper can can screw stuff up, right.
Speaker 1: Yeahs that ever since Griffin, you're talking to every Arizona kid.
Speaker 1: He was like, he was like, what do you want
Speaker 1: to do? What do you want to do? And to Mike,
Speaker 1: what do you mean what do you want to do?
Speaker 1: Like you need to just get out of my way? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they said they almost they almost got me off side there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have missed right there. Uh, we were high. We're
Speaker 1: all going whoever gets their first ding this game? Oh
Speaker 1: they did they uh probably that score probably probably have
Speaker 1: like Big Rivals, was like that before you go anywhere.
Speaker 2: That nothing says a heart o white guy like that
Speaker 2: barbed wire or tattoo going.
Speaker 1: On, not going there, ball driver, tribal, that's tribal. Barbour's
Speaker 1: back when Goldberg was hot.
Speaker 8: Yeah, him and Brian Phil Victims. That was a college
Speaker 8: college that was a freebie.
Speaker 1: That's when those were hot. You go to Idaho's host
Speaker 1: you get you a nice little trivel like that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was that was That's what I wish I could.
Speaker 7: I could probably take back. We people say like, oh
Speaker 7: I have no regrets in life, ye know, tons of them,
Speaker 7: tons of them. Yeah, not saying it didn't make me
Speaker 7: who I am.
Speaker 2: But right if Frank Sinatra said it best ud regrets
Speaker 2: you have a few. But then again too few to mention, right.
Speaker 7: But yeah, yeah, tribal tattoo and I'm not there's nothing
Speaker 7: tribal about me.
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm getting that removed right now. This place in
Speaker 2: Nashville is a Picico laser. Get that thing done.
Speaker 1: You'll get that thing off in six d ad sessions,
Speaker 1: no problem. Yeah, really I don't think you should nose
Speaker 1: that's already I got. I have lit me of bad
Speaker 1: tattoos though, like I even what's your least very one
Speaker 1: besides that one? Well, it was my favorite then I had.
Speaker 1: I told my mom and my wife was my favorite. No,
Speaker 1: it was. It was dumb. So I I do a
Speaker 1: lot of things off. Dumb bets are just because I
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna do something I don't ever welch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I told. I told my brother one time I
Speaker 1: was gonna get like a dollar bill tattooed. You know,
Speaker 1: you just grazed your fingers across your lower stomach. What's
Speaker 1: going on? Words? And I saw you're pumping that tarp off.
Speaker 1: There was something down there. Yes, I got a butterfly
Speaker 1: coming off across or something. Oh it's a it's a
Speaker 1: deer with a gun underneath. Oh yeah, dude, I screamed
Speaker 1: and broke back mountain stuff right. The well, the buck
Speaker 1: is a cover up. The buck is the gun. The
Speaker 1: gun is my lower The gun the gun is the
Speaker 1: cover up. Because it used to be like a word puzzle.
Speaker 1: What you so you used to used to oh what's
Speaker 1: the word puzzle?
Speaker 7: Well used to know I'm like I say, guy, I
Speaker 7: got I also're never going to hear this. But so
Speaker 7: the tattoo, I can't hide from it, right. I used
Speaker 7: to say, all you can eat.
Speaker 1: Buddy, that limits fucking awesome dude under Yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: get it. I know exactly when it's applying, So you
Speaker 1: should have never got that covered up. I tried promise.
Speaker 1: My mom cried over when my mom my mom found out.
Speaker 7: She cried when when I met my wife, she was
Speaker 7: absolutely disgusted with me before it, and I was just like, yeah,
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 1: I was like twenty two when I got it. I
Speaker 1: thought it was way cooler them, So I told her.
Speaker 1: I told my mom, was like, as soon as I
Speaker 1: get married, I will I will cover that up. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think we went from our wedding reception parlor, no
Speaker 1: the coast.
Speaker 7: I put a gun under it, and now it just
Speaker 7: looks like I like hunting so much. I put a
Speaker 7: freaking you know, elk or a buck with a gun
Speaker 7: underneath my belly button, which is so dude, that's probably
Speaker 7: one I need to get removed, because yeah, dudes shouldn't.
Speaker 1: Have lower belly button ink or low back ink. I
Speaker 1: I disagree, and I disagree whole hard. I think you
Speaker 1: get it right. I think you get it right, inspiring
Speaker 1: some college kid with them all like, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: need to get you guys doing this. We're crossing my ear.
Speaker 1: That's That's one.
Speaker 2: I don't think this story alone is just incredible. Are
Speaker 2: you don't getting tattoos?
Speaker 7: I say yes, right, I think like if I if
Speaker 7: something cool, like I don't know, Like at one point
Speaker 7: I was like gonna sleeve my arm up with my
Speaker 7: kids and all that stuff, and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 7: at some point, you can only have so many names
Speaker 7: on you that you know, my kids know their names.
Speaker 7: I know my kids' names, right, I don't know. I
Speaker 7: like tattoos. I think they are cool.
Speaker 1: I more feeling.
Speaker 7: I'm like, well, I don't really work out like I
Speaker 7: used to, and you know, tattoos and like dad boss
Speaker 7: saggy kind of dad boys don't really vibe.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I disagree with that too. I think it goes hard, dude.
Speaker 2: I think that ship goes hard. People always say like, oh,
Speaker 2: why would you get tattoos? Why would put a bumper
Speaker 2: stick in a Lamborghinis? But we're not Lamborghini's. We're honesiviics
Speaker 2: at best, dude, let's put my ride. Yeah, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Let's get fucking wild with that thing.
Speaker 1: I I'm I'm a fan of tattoos. I have no
Speaker 1: problem with them.
Speaker 7: I feel like, if you're gonna do it, though, you
Speaker 7: have to you have to understand first of all, you
Speaker 7: have to be that guy.
Speaker 1: Right, So, like for a dude from uh oh rootoff,
Speaker 1: Kyle Rudolph, right from Minnesota, love Kyle ri if he
Speaker 1: came from Notre Dame. Yeah, you know, the big, big
Speaker 1: old white glove hands.
Speaker 7: You know, he's like the Pillsbury guy, right, yes, everything
Speaker 7: next thing, you know, he's sleeved up. I'm like, I
Speaker 7: just don't know if like you've had enough struggles in
Speaker 7: your life to be sleeved up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think like you gotta
Speaker 1: be a little you gotta be to have a couple
Speaker 1: of stories that go, Okay, he's been throwing, especially when
Speaker 1: you have bad tattoos, Like right, like my life story,
Speaker 1: You're like, you would expect me to have some bad.
Speaker 7: Tattoos one hundred percent, right, Yeah, I'd probably have some
Speaker 7: really crappy tattoos, right, I've outgrown.
Speaker 1: Them, out grown them. It is what it is. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But the thing you got going for you, dude, is
Speaker 2: you got a nice little You have the you have
Speaker 2: the mullet going, you have the belt buckles, you've you've
Speaker 2: driven your path of what your style is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the tattoos play perfectly into that hand.
Speaker 7: K it goes out and gets a neck tattoo, You're like, Okay,
Speaker 7: now you have to be an athlete or in music, right,
Speaker 7: you're limiting your life skills, right, But if you're gonna
Speaker 7: get sleeved up, you know you got you gotta have
Speaker 7: a little edge to you, right, And like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 7: what I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, I don't know your history, but I'm likely
Speaker 1: a tattoo. Guys. My point is like, yeah, I see tattoo.
Speaker 1: It's like that make Arizona. Like, how much harder does
Speaker 1: it get? Great? For sure? I mean tattoos makes sense.
Speaker 1: How much harder does it get? Willie? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Grew up on a ranch.
Speaker 2: Come on, hard working, hard working dude, bucking stalls at
Speaker 2: four am in the summertime, Yes, sir, what y'all do?
Speaker 1: Come on? But you're like You're like a California Arizona gay.
Speaker 1: You're not like a Texas You're not like a Texas Arizona.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think what I'm wearing right now would
Speaker 2: definitely support what you're saying, but like where I grew
Speaker 2: up would be I guess more Texas Arizona. You've been
Speaker 2: up to Cave Creek, you know, so you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I've chosen my path. Actually I haven't chosen my path.
Speaker 2: I think I wear different shit all the time, but
Speaker 2: like kind of contradicts itself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: But guess because I'm social, I don't want to fucking
Speaker 2: draw my line too soon. I want to have multiple lines.
Speaker 2: Is that possible? Here it goes yeah, sure, yeah absolutely.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Idaho State Charlie Ragel, my head coach at Chaparral High School,
Speaker 2: is now the head coach at Idaho State University.
Speaker 1: It's not a big sky we go full circle, dude,
Speaker 1: it is. It's like the seven degrees of Kevin Bacon.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening right now. And I think that what
Speaker 1: do you think Charlie Ragel is going to do for
Speaker 1: that university?
Speaker 7: I don't know him personally. I've a lot to talk
Speaker 7: to him on the phone. He's a high energy guy.
Speaker 1: High energy guy at one in eight or one in
Speaker 1: seven where we're building. Don't know what his coaching sayst
Speaker 1: style is or isn't. Yeah, so I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't have an expectation rather than next year. Obviously
Speaker 7: can't get much worse.
Speaker 1: So it's got to be better. There you go, your
Speaker 1: expectations low, so you can only go up from the
Speaker 1: key to happiness.
Speaker 7: Yes, I had a fortunate cricket one time. Tell me,
Speaker 7: if you never climb, you'll never fall.
Speaker 1: There we go.
Speaker 2: It's big brain thinking right there. That's big brain thinking, dude.
Speaker 2: I think you guys are going to be solid. I
Speaker 2: think Charlie's a motivating he's incredible.
Speaker 1: I think you'll be able to recruit and I think
Speaker 1: guys will play for him. So I think, like I
Speaker 1: told you earlier, I think they're they're going to ask
Speaker 1: like thirty five people to leave the program. So I
Speaker 1: didn't know you could rebuild in college, but yes, they're
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I rebuilt.
Speaker 2: We talked about before you need to go to the
Speaker 2: nearest juvenile attention center. Yeah, yeah, a Baker's dozen there,
Speaker 2: and then you get a couple of guys that are
Speaker 2: good leaders, and let's just point this car in the
Speaker 2: direction we want to go.
Speaker 7: Yeah, just we need like old school raiders, I told
Speaker 7: I told her our ideas that we need. We need
Speaker 7: uh an identity. So we need to figure out what
Speaker 7: that identity is. And in my personal opinion, if unless
Speaker 7: you have a rockstar quarterback, go get the best olignment
Speaker 7: you can possibly get and run the ball.
Speaker 1: I would I would be I would be in freaking
Speaker 1: wing tea style. Just I would be in a heavy
Speaker 1: over load wing right, just power I back football. What's
Speaker 1: the military schooler runs? Is that Navy? It's a arm
Speaker 1: air Force, air Force, un force run wing tea.
Speaker 7: But I would literally go back to straight power eye
Speaker 7: football because think about everybody's a specialty these days, no
Speaker 7: one wants to get hit in the face anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 7: So I would just WoT, I would just murk. I
Speaker 7: would put a freaking two hundred and fifty pounds full
Speaker 7: back and just I so.
Speaker 1: Just killed guy. Every single time you do that in Juco,
Speaker 1: he eat all the Juco kids up there, No problem.
Speaker 1: Now he's your D one, right, Yeah, do you want
Speaker 1: what is it? Fcs now? At D one? Double. Aw.
Speaker 1: You guys are d one double trying to compete with
Speaker 1: like the North Dakota states of the world. Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 1: Is Idaho state they had success back in the day,
Speaker 1: back when I was there. Yeah, we did. We We
Speaker 1: just had our twenty year reunion for winning the Big Sky. Uh.
Speaker 1: But we were we were We were some ruffians. But
Speaker 1: that's what we did. We ran the ball. We we
Speaker 1: literally ran the ball out people's faces. We just just
Speaker 1: made it happen the ball. We had a couple good quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: good Roger Shavers. We were all one a players that
Speaker 1: got in trouble and so ended up. That's incredible. That's
Speaker 1: exactly what they need to do. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Charlie Rachel. I believe in Charlie Rachel in person.
Speaker 1: So if you believe in him, I believe in you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love look at us, Look at us, dude. This
Speaker 2: has been incredible. Yeah, it's been an incredible podcast. Who's
Speaker 2: the most interesting player you've that you could with your life?
Speaker 7: Where I gotta wrap this up a some poret because
Speaker 7: I gotta get.
Speaker 1: To my daughter's karate class, But.
Speaker 7: Interesting player, Oh gosh, dude, played against or played well.
Speaker 3: Played with, like in your locker room that you've seen
Speaker 3: interesting cats and they're like like I played with Griffin
Speaker 3: like he was an interesting like you. We would hear
Speaker 3: I would hear from Afar in the Washington locker room
Speaker 3: that he would like beat his own teammates up.
Speaker 1: No, I never saw him beat like a violent teammate,
Speaker 1: Percy Harvin. You've heard stories love personal. I was with
Speaker 1: the person person was actually a great teammate. Everon got
Speaker 1: Everson had a few.
Speaker 7: Issues, but when we were there, like ever Sin, he
Speaker 7: actually he knew his role, like where he was at right,
Speaker 7: So was was actually very managed.
Speaker 1: Boy always knew he had an.
Speaker 7: Incredible skill set, right just if he could keep it
Speaker 7: the mental side, you know, check in, check and going,
Speaker 7: but not not even just just focused, right, he can
Speaker 7: focus on his task through the duo, was I mean?
Speaker 1: And you can see it in the Monster. Then he
Speaker 1: run down on Gunner like he's a gift beyond measures.
Speaker 1: But I got to play with the likes I mean
Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez, right, will Shields, Willie.
Speaker 7: Rofe, you know, Randy Moss. I played for a little bit.
Speaker 7: But even Kevin, like you said, Kevin and Pat Williams.
Speaker 7: I got to play with ty Law, like you know,
Speaker 7: so the list of guys just from a skill set
Speaker 7: that I got to play was insane.
Speaker 1: As far as characters. I mean, Eric Hicks, I mean
Speaker 1: he was like you know, Vonnie Holiday. All these guys
Speaker 1: were my big brothers. You know, man, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think probably, I mean probably, honestly, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: human beings was something John Browning, Right, he was just
Speaker 1: a soft spoken dude, but his John Browny will you
Speaker 1: so will I give?
Speaker 7: Willi Rose's probably one of my my all that favorite.
Speaker 7: So Willy Rose's when he retired. Well, the way I
Speaker 7: remember it was so we were at OTAs and we're
Speaker 7: hermity getting We're getting after pretty good, right. Willie gets
Speaker 7: in his car after practice one day, you know, leaves
Speaker 7: and no one thinks so he doesn't show up, but
Speaker 7: O ts that one's really thinking much of it. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 7: training camp comes will He's not there. I remember her
Speaker 7: one day like, hey chills, anybody huh rope. I guess
Speaker 7: he decired one day during ot As.
Speaker 1: He was done. He just and then that's how he retired,
Speaker 1: but just like didn't left.
Speaker 7: I'm sure I don't live when I asked him most sorry.
Speaker 7: I remember one day he was at O. T S
Speaker 7: and then I never saw him again. That's like the
Speaker 7: kind of a football field. Yeah, that's an iconic way
Speaker 7: to go out. You you also had an iconic way
Speaker 7: to go out riding the horse up into the sunset.
Speaker 1: How was my wife's sid D I gotta give her
Speaker 1: all the credit in the world for that. She she
Speaker 1: came up with that idea and it became legendary.
Speaker 3: It became Yes, that was the legendary. Whenn'd you know, like,
Speaker 3: I'm doneb hanging it up? After this was done at
Speaker 3: year ten?
Speaker 1: Right, I was done at year ten, and then the
Speaker 1: Bears through a contract at me. I couldn't say no
Speaker 1: to a year. It was a four year avoidable four
Speaker 1: three year but I made all my money in two,
Speaker 1: so I took it.
Speaker 7: And then, uh, when I asked them, but you know,
Speaker 7: then I asked them, but you know, they they they
Speaker 7: had a whole regime shift.
Speaker 1: I asked them to trade me to Carolina. Right, So
Speaker 1: I get traded to Carolina and he's like, hey, we're good,
Speaker 1: Like you know what, You're gonna havet the pa any
Speaker 1: of that back because I knew I was gonna retire too.
Speaker 7: Right, So everybody was so worried about Cutlers. You know,
Speaker 7: ten million dollar roster bonus that they had to get. Yeah,
Speaker 7: they forgot about. They won't even paid attention to mine.
Speaker 7: Well when and then, like I said, so then I
Speaker 7: get traded. I mean, the Bears are still paying eighty
Speaker 7: percent of the salaries, so why are you know, why
Speaker 7: were the Panthers going to convert anything over to signing bonus?
Speaker 7: So after you know X amount of games, your roster
Speaker 7: bonus is locked in, and I got.
Speaker 1: To keep it all I got paid for, almost got
Speaker 1: a super Bowl almost. Man, that was close that I'd
Speaker 1: tell you it was more painful losing the NFC Championship
Speaker 1: game than it was the Super Bowl because you're there,
Speaker 1: you know, you're there, you're experiencing yet. But but yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a rough I mean, we played, we played
Speaker 1: well too, it was it was a game and awesome
Speaker 1: game and it was honestly got out.
Speaker 7: We just got out played on defense, right if you
Speaker 7: think about it. I mean, and we played, we helped
Speaker 7: Payton one hundred and eighty six yards. They scored on defense,
Speaker 7: we didn't.
Speaker 1: And then von Miller just went nuts. Yeah, he went nuts.
Speaker 1: He did. Dude, how legendaries Luke Keekley, Oh, dude, dude
Speaker 1: is stud I did that? Dude. That dude was balls
Speaker 1: to the walls. Like he was every bit every bit
Speaker 1: of what you thought. That's that's what he was. Smart
Speaker 1: as all can be hard. You love him, but dud hard.
Speaker 1: Ye godd when you know when you're a backer.
Speaker 3: Dudeley was like he's said, I I like you wanted
Speaker 3: to be called the poor Man's Luke Keigley.
Speaker 1: And that's the deal, like and and he was a
Speaker 1: blue collar dude, just worked, worked, worked, always a practice.
Speaker 7: The promise like if he if he could have stayed healthy,
Speaker 7: he could arguably be one of the all time all
Speaker 7: the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, is he not? Yea, he might be, He
Speaker 1: might be still.
Speaker 7: It's kind of like Patrick Willis Patrick, right, you gotta
Speaker 7: say ten twelve years from a long jevy and point
Speaker 7: Patrick Willison another one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he only played nine and studu Yeah, just studs.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I know, you got to get out of here.
Speaker 1: But Hall of Fame. Yeah, man, if it happens, it'll
Speaker 1: be one of the greatest treasures.
Speaker 7: Like I'm hoping it's it's it's an odd process, right,
Speaker 7: and you know you kind of you know, being a
Speaker 7: first ballad finalist with Peyton and them, Yeah, it was
Speaker 7: an incredible class like crap, that might argue with the
Speaker 7: greatest classes ever, right, So I don't get on that class.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, I'm a shoeing for the next class.
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, don't get it on that one. I'm kind
Speaker 7: of like I had no expectations first year. Then I'm
Speaker 7: kind of like sad faced for a few days. But
Speaker 7: I try generally try to keep things in perspective, right
Speaker 7: because I'm getting rejudged.
Speaker 1: On things I already did.
Speaker 7: There's literally zero and if it's and if it's a
Speaker 7: popularity contest, then you know it is what it is.
Speaker 1: I'm not going into the patage. I mean you pretty
Speaker 1: fucking yeah, popularity is there, you're you're O g JJ watt.
Speaker 1: Well hopefully you know it's bat and balls down. Wait,
Speaker 1: before that, Cats had the monody of the celebration. That
Speaker 1: had to be one of your great accomplishments. That was great.
Speaker 7: Those dudes are tolf and they became friend. That's that's
Speaker 7: a quality of a bunch of guys like honestly like
Speaker 7: Knoxville and those guys were freaking phenomenal. Talk about not
Speaker 7: you know, judging a book by its covered, great dudes,
Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean the Hall of Fame to me though,
Speaker 7: it's it's that's why I tell people it'll be one
Speaker 7: of the greatest honors bestowed upon me, right, But it's
Speaker 7: not gonna change my life, you know, to have a
Speaker 7: gold jacket versus not a gold jacket. I mean at
Speaker 7: the end of the day that the pomp of circumstance
Speaker 7: will be phenomenal. It'll be great to represent the NFL.
Speaker 7: You know, my body will work and be a part
Speaker 7: of that fraternity. It'll be insane, but it's not gonna
Speaker 7: make my wife love me anymore or less. My kids
Speaker 7: aren't gonna love me anymore or less.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I'm still going
Speaker 1: to be, you know, help muckingstalls if my dad, Yeah,
Speaker 1: still picking up dog crap.
Speaker 7: Laws gotta get mode. So I try to keep it
Speaker 7: in the circum like in perspective of that, I have
Speaker 7: no control over it. So do I want it to happen?
Speaker 7: Absolutely When it happens, will I be elated if it happens? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: If for some reason it never does, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: look at it as a failure, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to think that it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I think it's just a matter of time for you.
Speaker 2: And the perspective you have is incredible to be able
Speaker 2: to know those things. Your life's not gonna love you more,
Speaker 2: your kids are gonna love you more. But that is
Speaker 2: when you play football.
Speaker 1: That's what we all do about. Yeah, it'll make it cooler,
Speaker 1: for sure. It'll this podcast I might need it, right,
Speaker 1: there's some people not elevate. Brother, this is gonna help.
Speaker 1: I really, I think you do a phenomenal job.
Speaker 2: If you start a podcast, especially the things you love, horses,
Speaker 2: all that stuff, I think you would do an incredible.
Speaker 7: Job that days, time and effort. Then I couldn't be
Speaker 7: on you know, Then I couldn't just be the guests
Speaker 7: and dumb crap you know there. Yeah, maybe we just
Speaker 7: maybe we all do a show one day.
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm getting I'm always out away. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: Jay Hawk love AJ does He's great? You want to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I mean, I think I could be
Speaker 3: the a J Hawk of you watching a ball I
Speaker 3: can would you sure?
Speaker 1: What do you need for me?
Speaker 3: Or is it more like a macrodosing style show where
Speaker 3: we just talked like the first hour?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, hey listen. I'm I think the more
Speaker 1: this man's on the podcast, the better front. I'm opening
Speaker 1: all possibilities. You know what I'm saying. He's throwing out
Speaker 1: numbers one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2: That McAfee, but he'd be cleaning them up numbers like that. No,
Speaker 2: I said McAfee.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 2: McAfee was on when we first watched on the bus.
Speaker 2: How do you say crazy numbers to will a phone?
Speaker 2: In three years we're gonna be here?
Speaker 1: Was like, okay, you know what I mean because big kid,
Speaker 1: even fucking big can I get's just a slice of that?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? You got between curling. I mean I
Speaker 1: could make up dude curling in himself. That's a dog. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How much that I know you got to go? Is
Speaker 1: the last question? Back? Row back question, row back question
Speaker 1: right here. I got Olympic I have, I have this
Speaker 1: Olympic cycle to make to make good on the bet.
Speaker 1: And you think you got a chance. Yes, I I
Speaker 1: why I'm all in. I am paying our my teammates
Speaker 1: to live here in Nashville and curl full time. Curly does.
Speaker 7: That doesn't bring in the greatest amount of sponsors. So
Speaker 7: I actually had some somebodies that we're gonna self sponsor.
Speaker 7: They've just never paid their check. So if they're out
Speaker 7: there listening, dude, write the check. Bro Also, Bustin's always
Speaker 7: wont to sponsor an Olympic team.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm in. Like, come on, we can make it.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna pay you nothing, but it will get
Speaker 1: We'll buy the pennies good. You never know, we could bags,
Speaker 1: dude if you got if barstool needs content, like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just buddy, we would the next Olympics.
Speaker 1: Just telling you you road back question. Do you really
Speaker 1: think you can do? Matt Hamilton? If you're gonna do
Speaker 1: road back question, you gotta read the roadback thing. Can
Speaker 1: you pull that ub ject? Well?
Speaker 2: The road back question up real quick. Hey, you're gonna
Speaker 2: see how good I'm pretty good reader.
Speaker 1: I have read my daughters class road question. Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, you got to go question. This is the
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Speaker 2: of that. This is the roadback question. Do you think
Speaker 2: you can truly beat the legend Matt Hamilton into getting
Speaker 2: one hundred Olympics?
Speaker 7: Explain yourself one hundred percent? Well, first of all, I
Speaker 7: think I have ultimate faith in myself.
Speaker 1: Sound like Liver King when he said that, and I
Speaker 1: think I know who that is. But hey, if you
Speaker 1: sounded like that, that's probably cool, dude.
Speaker 7: That yeah, And I just think in a matter of time,
Speaker 7: like we're we're all in. I mean, we curl every
Speaker 7: single day. All that we have nothing to do with
Speaker 7: my team is what we do.
Speaker 1: We curl.
Speaker 7: I mark other things with the kid, but every morning
Speaker 7: we're at we're at tea line right here in Nashville.
Speaker 7: Throw yeah, that or do you swish Swisher? Well, everybody sweeps,
Speaker 7: everybody throw, so I play second. So I actually play
Speaker 7: Hamilton's position, and I'll be playing him this weekend where
Speaker 7: MINESDA in Minnesota. He's in art he's in the in
Speaker 7: the in the opposing pool. If he's well, I don't
Speaker 7: know if he's going to be there. Shooter's going to
Speaker 7: be there. So he met Hamilton rotates with Colin Hoffman
Speaker 7: every once in a while. But uh so we're gonna
Speaker 7: find out.
Speaker 1: I might played against him yet. Yeah, my very first
Speaker 1: curling match was against Shuster and Hamilton. Right.
Speaker 7: Ever, my very first one, I played the gold medalist.
Speaker 7: That's how ridiculous curling is that a schlub like me
Speaker 7: came off the street, paid my entry fee four.
Speaker 1: Hundred dollars the ghost curly. It's the gold Medalist. How
Speaker 1: did you do?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: We lost missile misery, but miserably. But me and Matt
Speaker 1: had a bet side bet.
Speaker 7: So in curling, if you're losing bad enough, you just
Speaker 7: give up, right And my coach at the time, who
Speaker 7: was filling in for our other teammates, was mad that
Speaker 7: he wanted.
Speaker 1: Us to give up. He threw I actually played really well.
Speaker 1: He threw a piss poor shot. We gave up like
Speaker 1: five points like the third name when it was close games.
Speaker 1: But I had like a six point cushion with the
Speaker 1: busses falling apart up here. That's cool bro, all right.
Speaker 7: But so yeah, me and Ham's curl had a freaking
Speaker 7: uh had a side bet. He gave me like X
Speaker 7: amount of points and we already knw we're gonna play
Speaker 7: it through.
Speaker 1: So I lost.
Speaker 7: I had to give him a jersey. He's a Packer
Speaker 7: fan and he wanted to Carolina jersey, so I sent
Speaker 7: him a Minnesota jersey, and uh yeah, that's my guy.
Speaker 4: I like.
Speaker 1: I like that. We like to talk trash to each other.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, if I didn't think I could beat him,
Speaker 1: then you know I gotta beat him. At some point
Speaker 1: I was like going to welch on my bet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that. When do we find out about that?
Speaker 1: I'll let you know with the bet. Yeah, Olympic trials
Speaker 1: in about three years. Love. He looked at your not
Speaker 1: wash that wasn't there ye years too, We got three
Speaker 1: years bust on the boys. I'm betting on you on you.
Speaker 1: I love you right now. I love Matt Bear, no
Speaker 1: expense to make it happen. Oh really, you'll get on PDS. No, gosh,
Speaker 1: I get tested. I can't cheat. Literally, just said, whatever
Speaker 1: it takes, I'm not gonna cheat. I'm not a cheater.
Speaker 1: You're a cheater. Gotta keep you how PD is gonna
Speaker 1: help me a curling anyways? Never blood doping? I guess
Speaker 1: why not blood dope? The blood dope. Yeah, we appreciate
Speaker 1: having you on. Man, it's incredible, and that's that's that's
Speaker 1: the goal. Yeah, dude, this is the best. This is
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