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Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Tuesday, January thirteenth, and as of

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Speaker 1: this recording, a developing story actor Tim Bussfield has apparently

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Speaker 1: turned himself into authorities to face accusations of child sexual assault.

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Speaker 1: With that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.

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Speaker 1: And Ropsey turned himself in after what has been kind

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Speaker 1: of a strange twenty four to forty eight hours of

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Speaker 1: wondering and if he was even a fugitive.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because we were wondering when we woke up this

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Speaker 2: morning when we saw the reports that, yes, we know

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Speaker 2: the Albuquerque Police Department put out a warrant for Tim

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Speaker 2: Busfield's arrest. But then to wake up this morning to

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Speaker 2: find that US Marshals say that they were now involved.

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Speaker 2: They confirmed that they were looking for couldn't find Timothy

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Speaker 2: Busfield socials. That was alarming because that arrest warrant, by

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Speaker 2: the way, was issued January ninth. So here we are,

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Speaker 2: January thirteenth, four days later, and you've got police and

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Speaker 2: US Marshall's saying they don't know where he is.

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Speaker 1: So he has popped up and we have heard from

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Speaker 1: him and seen him. We will share that in just

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Speaker 1: a moment. But Roes, these were Marshals. We got We

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Speaker 1: were standing by all day and waiting like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: this has got to be something else to this. Something

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Speaker 1: is going on. There's no way he's on.

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Speaker 2: The run, right, because the developments we had were that

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Speaker 2: they couldn't find him, that he hadn't been located, and

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Speaker 2: that he officially was not in custody despite the arrest

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Speaker 2: warrant being there. Then we get word that Melissa Gilbert,

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Speaker 2: his wife of course of Little House on the Prairie fame,

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Speaker 2: she deleted all of her social media accounts, so that

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Speaker 2: was so they go dark and they can't find him.

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Speaker 2: People are starting to get concerned, and yes, we were curious,

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And when we heard Marshalls, I mean, it's their

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Speaker 1: in to consult. Right, so we're told now he has yes,

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Speaker 1: turned himself in and Albuquerque again. Actor and director. This

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Speaker 1: is an Emmy Award winning actor Timothy buss Fell. Many

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Speaker 1: people remember him from thirty something. This was in the nineties,

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Speaker 1: done plenty of guest appearances on a number of shows.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those guys we talked about Rose.

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Speaker 1: People don't immediately know his name, but you certainly know

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Speaker 1: his face, and you tell me they were set to

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Speaker 1: see his face again pretty soon, but now they won't.

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Speaker 1: So some folks are making decisions about this guy being

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Speaker 1: on their program. That's correct.

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Speaker 2: So NBC pulled Timothy, Well pulled an entire episode of

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Speaker 2: Law and Order SVU that featured Timothy Bussfield as their

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Speaker 2: guest star that was supposed to air on Thursday, January fifteenth,

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Speaker 2: a new episode. They actually had to yank it, or

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Speaker 2: they made the decision to yank it, And now I've

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Speaker 2: had to put the next week's planned episode and move

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Speaker 2: about what the show is, Law and Order Special Victims Unit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they are looking at people who have the

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Speaker 2: hand to dealt with sexual crimes. So how can you

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Speaker 2: have Timothy Bussfield, now charged with a sexual crime, being

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Speaker 2: featured on your show as a judge. By the way,

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Speaker 2: that was the role he was playing.

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Speaker 1: What was the air date did you have that.

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Speaker 2: Thursday January fifteenth, as.

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Speaker 1: In this week, the less than a week. What are

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Speaker 1: the chances of that less than a week after he's

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Speaker 1: charged with two counts of criminal sexual contact with a minor. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he was supposed to be a judge on sv fricking you.

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Speaker 1: That's correct.

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Speaker 2: The chance they had to pull the episode, they made

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Speaker 2: the right call. There really wasn't another way to deal

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Speaker 1: It's a reminder here the victims here are two boys,

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Speaker 1: two boys twins that worked with him on a show. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they worked on the show The Cleaning Lady that was

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Speaker 1: on Fox before seasons. But these boys they came for

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Speaker 1: with the allegation, and again robes were a reminder. Please,

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Speaker 2: So the boys when they were first talking with a therapist,

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Speaker 2: Initially they told their parents he was tickling them in

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Speaker 1: And from the affidavit, we shared that the investigator flat

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Speaker 1: and thought that Timothy Bussfield and even mentioned his wife. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they did, were involved in giving gifts to the family

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Speaker 1: Timothy Busfield told police about what happened. This will give

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Speaker 1: you an idea, he said, I don't really remember picking

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Speaker 1: I don't remember those boys, No, I don't. I don't actually,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember if it happened. I don't remember overtly

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Speaker 1: But that was included that verbatim in the police report.

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Speaker 1: Now Timothy Busfield is speaking again. We heard from him

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Speaker 1: and were seeing him. Now this is coming to us

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Speaker 1: from TMZ. They have a video with him. It looks

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Speaker 2: Yes, he says, Hey, everybody, it's tim I'm sure most

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Speaker 2: was ordered to come to Albuquerque. I'm here now. I

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Speaker 2: I got in a car and drove two thousand miles

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Speaker 2: They're all lies, and I did not do anything to

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Speaker 1: What did you make of a statement? Well, you watched

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Speaker 1: How did he come off to you?

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Speaker 2: He came off sincere. He came off like somebody who

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Speaker 1: He looked I think he looked tired. He looked a

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Speaker 2: He was thinking that once he turned himself in, and

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Speaker 2: So I think he was preparing himself for having to

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Speaker 1: And that is not an answer we have just yet

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Speaker 2: So I actually googled it to see if that's what

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Speaker 1: The F word. Oh okay, gouts a reminder, because you

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Speaker 2: Melissa Gilbert, Yes, she of course played Laura Ingleswilder in

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Speaker 2: But at least we do know that today she is

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Speaker 1: All lies, he is saying, absolutely all lies. And Rob

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Speaker 1: pleads a reminder as well that there is a suggestion

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Speaker 2: Yes. So, Actually, Busfield's lawyer says that there is a

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Speaker 2: They were replaced by another actor.

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Speaker 1: So hell of a way to go about it. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Now, so that is going to be part of his defense,

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Speaker 1: this afternoon. We'll hop on if there's any significant update.

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Speaker 2: Hesitated for I do think the video is valuable when

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Speaker 1: All Right, we appreciate you as always, we're spending some

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Speaker 1: behalf of my dear Amy Robot. We will talk to

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