1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: On a dark day for the NBA, two legends step 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: up with good stories. It's one more thing I'm strong 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: and Getty, one more thing. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: That's good. 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, truly, just a coincidence that on a day that 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 3: the big NBA game fixing poker scandal thing broke, we 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 3: got a couple of clips from two of the all 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 3: time greatest players of all time that happened. 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Stories they told recently because the NBA season kicked off 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: this week, so a lot of NBA players are on 11 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: various shows telling various stories because they're you know, announcers 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah blah blah. First one is Michael Jordan. 13 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: Perhaps you've heard of him. Played for the Chicago Bulls 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: with some success. 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: He has the wagging tongue in the steely nerve. 16 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: You don't hear a lot out of him. I've always 17 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: considered him kind of dumb. He's always seemed like, at 18 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: least a very shallow guy to me, with not a 19 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: lot to say. 20 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: But yes, shallow might be a better description. Yeah. 21 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: A lot of people who are really good at focusing 22 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: on things to the point of obsession and being great 23 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: are kind of well, they're focused on one thing so 24 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: they weren't thinking about a lot of other stuff. But anyway, 25 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: here's a story Michael Jordan told on the show the 26 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: other day. 27 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 4: Do you ever do you ever pick up a ball? 28 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 4: And this ship, I hadn't picked up a ball in years. 29 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: Come on, just like walk past. There's got to be 30 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 4: a hoop somewhere at your place. You don't see a 31 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 4: hoop anywhere around here, right, I don't. 32 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 5: It's the last time you picked up a basketball and shot. 33 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 5: I was at the right a cup. Yeah, And I 34 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 5: rented a house from uh from the owner. Sure, he 35 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 5: came over to do pictures and grandkids and I was 36 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 5: beating greet and thank him for allowing me to stay 37 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 5: in the house. And he had a basketball court. He says, 38 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 5: I want you to shoot one free throw. I said, really, 39 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 5: I already paid for the already paid for the house, 40 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 5: and god likely you got to see me. So when 41 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 5: I stepped up to shoot your free throw, it's the 42 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 5: most nervous I've been. Stop it in years. 43 00:01:59,200 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: Stop it. Come on. 44 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 5: The reason being is those kids heard the stories from 45 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 5: the parents about what I did thirty years ago. Right, 46 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 5: So the expectation is thirty years prior and I haven't 47 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 5: touched the basketball. I hope you switched it. Absolutely. I 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 5: got the most gratifying that made my whole week is 49 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 5: that I was able to please that kid, not knowing 50 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 5: if I could. 51 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: Wow. See that's charming. Oh yes, he early showed that 52 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: side through this whole you know, days in the public eye. 53 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: It's funny, kind of an idea. I suppose there's no 54 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: reason for him to pick up a basketball. It's just 55 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: kind of funny that he, you know, having had one 56 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: in his hand probably every day of his entire life 57 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: from age five until whenever he retired forty one. 58 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 5: For you. 59 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: Just you know, why would he? I guess. I remember 60 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: I saw Larry Bird being interviewed a while back, and 61 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: Larry Bird was ask do you think you could bet 62 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan one on one right now? He said, I'm 63 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: old and fat. God, I can't even imagine. He said, 64 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: I'd try real hard, I'd make him work for it, 65 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: but I'm old and fat. But that was funny. Here's 66 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: also a charming story. I thought this was great. This 67 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: is Shaq on The Tonight Show. Shaquille O'Neal on The 68 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon the other night, there's a 69 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: game you. 70 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: Were playing against the Knicks and you didn't play so well. 71 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 6: So it was sort of like the karate kid like 72 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 6: he had small little sayings that really didn't make sense 73 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 6: at the time. But so to your next stories. I 74 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 6: had a terrible game versus the Knicks. He made me 75 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 6: fly home, and what I didn't like about the military, 76 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 6: he was like me and me at the house at 77 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 6: oh seven hundred, So now I got to do math 78 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 6: in my head. I met him at his house in 79 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 6: Orlando and we got in the car and he's the 80 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 6: type you don't speak unless you're spoken to. So I 81 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 6: was like, what did I do wrong? He's like, shut 82 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 6: the hell up. So driving and we going to this bridge, 83 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 6: and before we approached the family, he said, you couldn't 84 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 6: handle the pressure, and I was like, yeah, it was 85 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 6: masson square guard and I just Patrick, you and one 86 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 6: of my favorite players. I couldn't handle it. And he 87 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 6: says to me, pressure is when you don't know where 88 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 6: your next meal is coming from. And there was a 89 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 6: homeless family sitting right there, a guy, his wife and 90 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 6: two kids. He said, that's pressure. He said, I'm tired 91 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 6: of you spoil rich athletes making all his money, who 92 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 6: don't perform at the level that you're supposed to perform too, 93 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 6: blaming it on pressure. So he made me get out. 94 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 6: I made contact with the family, I got him apartment, 95 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 6: got him a job, I got into Shade. But things 96 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 6: like that just gave me a different perspective. So pressure 97 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 6: to me is like, well, you don't know where your 98 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 6: next meal is coming from. So I don't really believe 99 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 6: in the word pressure. 100 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: Woh my god. 101 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: I'd heard him tell that story before, and he said 102 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: that changed his perspective the rest of his career. That 103 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: was from his rookie year. He just he no longer 104 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: felt Pressure's just like just a game. I'm gonna try 105 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,119 Speaker 1: my hardest, you know, I'd like to make this shot 106 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: or whatever. But it's not life or death. I'm rich, 107 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: I'm healthy, I got a great family. What am I 108 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: worried about here? Which everybody should be able to get 109 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: into that mindset really, but it's hard to do. 110 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah. His dad sounds like an amazing guy. 111 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: Well he's a big military guy and everything. Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah. 112 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: I love Shaq Shack and the love Harry Entertaining dude, 113 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: Shack Fu Shack Daddy as hilarious, Katie. 114 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 2: When I was at the University of Illinois, they played 115 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: the line I played, Did he go to LSU? Yeah, 116 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: they played LSU, and everybody's talking about Shaquille O'Neil, Shaquille O'Neil, 117 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: Shaquillo O'Neal, and uh. And I went to the game 118 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: and uh, and I came away completely unimpressed. 119 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: Really, he's just. 120 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: A big, huge dude who backs in with his ass 121 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: and flips the ball. 122 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 6: To the hoop. 123 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he doesn't. 124 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: Look terribly skillful. And then he made hundreds of millions 125 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: of dollars doing that very thing. Yeah, over and over again. 126 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: He was unstoppable there for about three four years. 127 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: He showed you. 128 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 7: Huh, hey, Kobe, tell me all my ass tastes. That's right, 129 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 7: Kobe tell me how my ass taste Haro shack ping 130 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 7: of all time? And then my only other Do you 131 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 7: know that story, Katie? 132 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 5: No? 133 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I think it was after they won their 134 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: NBA championship in Miami. Of course, it was. That's what 135 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: he was up so he he and Kobe don't get along. 136 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: Lakers are a dynasty. He he and Kobe don't get along. 137 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: He leaves and goes to Miami, then wins a championship 138 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: in Miami. 139 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: So well, he was more or less sent away because hey, Shack, 140 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: it's Kobe Steam. 141 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he leaves, he leaves, goes to Miami, wins 142 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: a championship in Miami, then goes to a club that 143 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: night and is the DJ at the club, and he's 144 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: they're scratched free syl. He's freestyling. That was his wrap. 145 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: Hey Kobe, tell me how my ass taste. That's right, Kobe, 146 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: tell me how my ass tastes. 147 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: And there's he did. He was actually pretty good freestyling too, 148 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: but that was like the hook. 149 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: I love that. Oh my god. 150 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 8: He seems like such a fun guy. I've seen so 151 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 8: many videos of him circulate online. 152 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: You know. There was one reason where he was backstage somewhere. 153 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 8: I don't know what he was doing, but there was 154 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 8: this little, tiny kid and he was wearing a Shack 155 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 8: jersey and it was more recent and the security the 156 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 8: kids went to go run to hug Shack, and the 157 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 8: security kind of pushed the kid back, and Shack looked 158 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 8: over and pushed the security guard out of the way 159 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 8: and pulled the kid over and put his arms around him. 160 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: And stuff. 161 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 8: It was. He just seems like a real down to 162 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 8: earth dude. 163 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very generous, Yeah, very generous. 164 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: With it's because you know, you heard the story about 165 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: his dad. Is his upbringing that guard right, Yeah, So. 166 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: My only other Shack story, And Jack was there too 167 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: when the original Dream Team was practicing at the Charlotte 168 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: Coliseum whatever they call it where the Hornets played back 169 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: in the day, when we were working in Charlotte and 170 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: the players were coming out of the locker room to 171 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: get ready for practice. We were right there on the 172 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: court we'd been allowed to observe it or whatever. Super cool, 173 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: and all the guys come out, including a couple of 174 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: seven footers, and like, wow, that's a big dude, and 175 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And then standing next to a couple 176 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: of seven footers, Shack comes out and it's like, holy shit, 177 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: is that just one dude. I mean he was so 178 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: thick and so muscular. He made the other giant dudes 179 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: look like children. Wow, unbelievable. 180 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: That's right. Cool. That must have been so cool. 181 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: Stop it with that, right, Yeah, it was incredibly cool. 182 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: If you're an NBA fan, Yeah, it was amazing. 183 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, although I was snubbed. 184 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: By the great Alonzo Morning. 185 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. 186 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 187 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: I said, hey, lonso a quick picture and he's like, no, man, 188 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: I gotta go over here. 189 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: He just walked away. 190 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 2: So that's been a running joke between us now for decades. Nah, 191 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: I gotta go over there. Jack. Jack was snubbed by 192 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: John John No Rick Berry Rick berrys remember that Rick Berry. 193 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: He's in the newsroom for a while. He's a well 194 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: known dick though, so it's not that surprising. I said, hey, 195 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: I just I just gotta say hello, because, like my 196 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: dad will be amazing that I can say. I actually 197 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: shook your hand, and he said, you know whatever, went 198 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: back to that's what he actually says to a guy 199 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: who says what I said. I mean a colleague, no 200 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: less and yeah in a radio colleague. That's the opposite 201 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: of shack yeah whatever. People idolize me, whatever, who cares 202 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: people like me on him? 203 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 8: I've played basketball well, I don't need more, obviously, but 204 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 8: when I was a kid and I got to go 205 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 8: to the Warriors basketball camp, the Junior Warriors in Oakland, 206 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 8: and I'll never forget. They're smaller names, obviously, but Antoine 207 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 8: Jamison and Muggsy Bogues. Back in the day with the Warriors, 208 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 8: they were like the dream team. We got to scrimmage 209 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 8: those guys, and they were so fun and they were 210 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,599 Speaker 8: out there just playing with all of us kids, and 211 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 8: I just remember looking up and going, oh my god, 212 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 8: Muggsy Bugs looked huge to me because I was I 213 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 8: was like a little peanut, but it was so. 214 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: He was about five eight or something. Yeah, one of 215 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: the smallest five to six. 216 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 217 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: He played for Charlotte when we were there too. He 218 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 2: was amazing to one. 219 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 5: Really. 220 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Oh by the way, if you are an NBA fan 221 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: and you like the whole thing, there isn't a video 222 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: that I saw not long ago of Shaq and Kobe 223 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: talking to each other. They kind of did an interview 224 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: with each other shortly before Kobe's death when they had reconciled, 225 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: talking about their days together and everything like that. That 226 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: was really interesting as a basketball fan, I reckon, Yeah, well, 227 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: I guess that's it.