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Speaker 1: December ninth, nineteen ninety eight, Walt Disney Worldwide World of Sports, Orlando, Florida.

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Speaker 2: Led by a twelve year old Julian Edelman, the Redwood

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Speaker 2: City forty nine Ers are on the cusp of immortality.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Dad, this is the nineteen ninety eight Pop Warner

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Speaker 3: National Championship semifinals.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Games of Names. Today we have a very

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Speaker 4: special guest. You have my father, coach Frank Edelman.

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Speaker 5: Whereas he likes to say, baby Belichick, what do you

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Speaker 5: call yourself baby Belichick?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? That is.

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Speaker 5: And today we are looking at the nineteen ninety eight

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Speaker 5: Pee Wee Pop Warner National Championship semi final between I

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Speaker 5: mean our Redwood City forty nine ers against the Naperville

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Speaker 5: Our words. Yeah, I don't think I can't say that.

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Speaker 5: You can't say that anymore. You're now the Chargers. Uh,

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Speaker 5: they're now the Chargers. They're the Chargers now? Is yes,

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Speaker 5: they changed from our words to Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Yep, adopted another NFL team's identity.

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Speaker 4: I know, but you know, I don't think that that

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Speaker 4: really fits with the area. Is there are a lot

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Speaker 4: of lightning storms there? Maybe actually there's that It gets

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Speaker 4: pretty crazy over in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: It could be. It's I mean, it's tough if you're

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Speaker 1: not even even the Bears.

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Speaker 5: Come on now, yeah, all right, let's get back to coach.

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Speaker 5: Coach Dada, why did you pick this game?

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Speaker 2: This was a this was a really exciting moment for us.

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Speaker 2: But I gotta say one thing, you guys these podcasts

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Speaker 2: with all the swearing that you guys do, and this

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Speaker 2: is going to be a g rated podcast. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: call this the Uie Lewis Podcast. That means this is

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Speaker 2: a no square zone and it's hip to be square.

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Speaker 2: So anybody who squares in this podcast is going to

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Speaker 2: get one hundred dollars fine, and it's going to go

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Speaker 2: to Rich Eisen and the Thomas family for I think

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Speaker 2: it's Saint Jude's. So that's my request. I like that.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 5: I wish I would have requested this in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 5: eight when this football game was going because I specifically

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Speaker 5: remember you mother fucking me.

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Speaker 4: Ding Ding or any.

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Speaker 5: Other child with a huge chewing tobacco lip, and I

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Speaker 5: would go back home and I just hear at random

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Speaker 5: bar stories. Hey, your dad used to yell at me

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Speaker 5: and I had a piece of chew in my face.

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Speaker 5: I've heard that probably fifteen sixteen times, so I'm glad

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Speaker 5: that you thought over your little uh, this is for

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Speaker 5: Saint Jude's. I wanted to donate one hundred dollars. So

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Speaker 5: that's why I said that, Saint Juw's Charitable Foundation, because

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Speaker 5: of rich Eisen, because of.

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Speaker 2: The Danny Thomas, Marlo Thomas, that girl. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 2: think you know we could do that, and what I

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Speaker 2: was is not what I am. Things change, you age

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Speaker 2: and you become better. That's that's what we do as humans.

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Speaker 2: We we did what we did, and we do what

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Speaker 2: we do and now we're better people. So their son,

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Speaker 2: thanks dad.

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Speaker 4: Now is this the greatest game of all time?

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Speaker 7: That?

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Speaker 2: Oh, we didn't answer the question this game?

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Speaker 4: Why this game?

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Speaker 2: This game? First off, for a Pop Warner team. This

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Speaker 2: is back when there was just one group of teams

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Speaker 2: that go And I don't mean that's I like. Now

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Speaker 2: that we have Participation Awards, we have A B and

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Speaker 2: C teams, more teams can go to Florida and play.

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Speaker 2: But it was it was absolutely spectacular. I mean this

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Speaker 2: game though, because this game against Aperville, this guy ran.

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Speaker 2: This was our toughest game and the Super Bowl we

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Speaker 2: played Texas and the Texas Ours. Uh yeah, also the

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Speaker 2: R word. But this team, this team was just it

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Speaker 2: was a battle. I mean, it was just a great battle.

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Speaker 2: It was our first taste of competition in the National

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Speaker 2: Championship game and we won. I mean, geez, everybody wants

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Speaker 2: to go, but winning is uh just awesome, icing on

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Speaker 2: the cake. So that's why I picked this game.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, is this the greatest game of all time?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's tough. The problem with when you have a

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Speaker 2: Julian never quit playing football. So parents that have children

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Speaker 2: they just keep playing and keep playing and keep playing.

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Speaker 2: So I would say this is the best Pop Warner

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Speaker 2: game ever for us, but we've played a lot of

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Speaker 4: Is this the most memorable game of Pop Warner?

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Speaker 5: Like when you think back on our Pop Warner career,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you were in ten years before me because

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Speaker 5: of my brother, and you stuck around until I got there.

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Speaker 5: Was this the most memorable game for you? And why

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Speaker 5: or is there another one?

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Speaker 2: You know this This was the toughest game for us,

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Speaker 2: by far, the toughest game that we played. But I

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Speaker 2: every game was memorable. I don't have one specific game

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Speaker 2: that is, you know, memorable. I do remember, you know,

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Speaker 2: the game that you fumbled four times, and I remember

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Speaker 2: the game that you dropped two touchdown passes. But those

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Speaker 2: aren't very memorable to me, but I do remember them.

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Speaker 2: But in this case, I would say this is probably

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Speaker 2: the most memorable game we've played. I think it's complete bullshit.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, ding ding ding ding.

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Speaker 1: I got the running tracker going over here, so we'll

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Speaker 1: tell those up at the end.

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Speaker 8: I also think, like, I know, you got your NFL

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Speaker 8: Film shirt on. Yeah, I think you're giving us some

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Speaker 8: NFL Film's answers here. This isn't this isn't Rich Eisen interview,

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Speaker 8: This isn't a Tom Curran thing. This is your son's

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Speaker 8: living room on his podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But the problem, I tell you, guys, the problem

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Speaker 2: is is is it's just been twenty seven years since

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Speaker 2: I played this game, and you know you kind of.

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Speaker 5: What do you mean twenty seven years since you played

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Speaker 5: this game?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I coached this game since you've played this game.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I, you know, it's tough tough to say.

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Speaker 2: We've played a lot of football, and I don't mean

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Speaker 2: to be I will say I I I probably would

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Speaker 2: have been put in jail for child aboot child abuse

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Speaker 2: when I was a coach because that was a different time.

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Speaker 2: And you know, nowadays you got to give him cotton candy,

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Speaker 2: you know when they when they score a touchdown or

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Speaker 2: when they do something wrong. I'm teasing, but you know

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Speaker 2: it's it's a different time. So I tried to adapt

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Speaker 4: How does this feel?

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Speaker 5: Like Kyler said, You're in our living room and you're

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Speaker 5: making your podcast debut. This is your podcast debut. How

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Speaker 5: do you feel, Pops? You know, this kind of reminds

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Speaker 5: me of you know, the old you know who who

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Speaker 5: would be? Uh, who's the gun slinger back in the day?

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Speaker 2: Give me a glints. Gunslinger's name Jesse James? Jesse James.

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Speaker 2: I mean, by the time twenty twenty four, Jesse killed

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Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy five, never lost a fight. Da

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Speaker 2: da da da da. So the legend has been built.

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Speaker 2: I am really nothing but a little Pop Warner, little

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Speaker 2: league coach with a son that continued to play, and

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Speaker 2: I have great people around me, as in Kyler and Jack.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate my son said, you know, building me up.

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Speaker 1: I'll keep building you up. There were The response in

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Speaker 1: the Twitter world was sounding when we put out of

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Speaker 1: a little breadcrumb that you might be coming on.

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Speaker 2: Well, I tell you one thing. We love Boston. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: New England, and I don't know if we should be

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Speaker 2: Like that, but I appreciate it. Thrank you guys, you've

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Speaker 2: got to say when you're when you're green, you grow,

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Speaker 2: you're ripe your rot, and I'll tell you what that

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Speaker 2: continues for everything everything we do. I don't care if

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Speaker 2: you're the best chess player. I don't care if you

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Speaker 2: mowlan's for a living. If you're gonna do it, keep learning,

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Speaker 2: keep getting better at it, no sniveling.

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Speaker 4: You know you're in coach mode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, getting there?

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Speaker 5: Your mentor mode? Yeah, how can we make this show better?

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Speaker 2: I think you guys continue to grow and continue to evolve,

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Speaker 2: and I think you will find your way. That's what

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Speaker 2: I think. Awesome, Thanks coach, You're welcome.

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Speaker 5: Thanks pops, Frank, I gotta say, yeah.

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Speaker 8: You used to call me every Wednesday after you know

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Speaker 8: a show would come out and give you the high level.

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Speaker 1: I think Jules is doing good and I think this

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Speaker 8: I think we could do better here, Like, come on,

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Speaker 8: let's we can't get better with you know better?

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Speaker 4: What makes you better?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's only one thing that makes you better, and

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Speaker 2: that's hard work, you know, cop out, No, No, it's true.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what you guys. You guys, I don't

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Speaker 2: want to. But my influence has to be encouragement and

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Speaker 2: being honest with you. But I don't want to influence

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Speaker 2: the nineteen eighties on you guys. Oh did you guys

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Speaker 2: see I watched something last night that was so awesome.

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Speaker 2: I watched What's the Big Band? I forget the name,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'll tell you I watched The bon Jovi

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Speaker 2: Show last night. Four episode show. Bon Jovi is an

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Speaker 2: absolute stud, you know. I tell you what awesome bon Jovi?

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Speaker 2: This one's for you. What a great show. That guy

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Speaker 2: worked hard. He did everything that we discuss. You never

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Speaker 2: stopped believing.

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Speaker 5: He never stopped believing, stopped believing.

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Speaker 8: Well, Frank, you're a bit of a musician yourself. He

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Speaker 8: tell us about some of your jap.

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Speaker 2: I went to day. Yeah, I played a little piano.

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Speaker 2: I used to do anyway, I gotta continue to I

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Speaker 2: actually I don't play the piano. I practiced the piano.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 2: We had a good time. We were a good little

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Speaker 2: band I had was a BANDA The band name was

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Speaker 4: You get into the band? What made you join this band?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 2: What year was this? This was? I think it was

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 5: I know why I can't speak people. Yeah, my dad

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, we don't. There's no chance, that's what.

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you back then in the eighties, there

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Speaker 2: We were like we opened for Yuey Lewis, we opened

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Speaker 2: Weekend? Weekend was get up in the morning, the boys

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Speaker 2: Actually, Jewels, he was when he was little twelve. He

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Speaker 1: I Thinkyler was just trying.

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Speaker 1: What made you bad at baseball?

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Speaker 2: No, it was football, baseball, basketball. He was good at basketball.

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you, guys, this was a great story.

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Speaker 4: I mean in like, I was like the best.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but when you got to the high school, you

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Speaker 5: They could, but you didn't know how basketball.

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Speaker 2: But you didn't know basketball that was playing year round.

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Speaker 2: No, But I won hunch when I was in fourth grade.

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Speaker 4: But it was crazy because we played.

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Speaker 5: I played AAU for two years because they saw they

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Humphrey could shoot. Yeah, he could six to six nour.

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Speaker 5: No, I was quick, remember little Aaron mate face. That

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Speaker 5: But you remember a little face, that little dude. He

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Speaker 2: I forgot his name. But Jules, what's a what's Frank's

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Speaker 2: Always shorts?

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Speaker 2: that was my look right there? What's in that fanny pack?

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00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: You know at that time there was always a pack

436
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 2: of cigarettes. Oh my god, I had to have my stogies.

437
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: There probably a pack of cigarettes, a dip, probably a

438
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: tenant to Copenhagen wallet. My little coin pouch always had

439
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 2: to have my coins. I think I was about it, keys, keys, music,

440
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: coins for parking. Back then you use coins for parking.

441
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: I still have my fanny pack now with coins in

442
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 2: it when I go to park, but they never take

443
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 2: coins anymore, so it's a problem. But I do like

444
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: to what about that one time? I'll tell you what

445
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: I do like to do is when I'm in a

446
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: line at the store and everybody's in a hurry, and

447
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: they go it's thirty dollars and twenty seven cents, and

448
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: I pull out my coin pack and I pull out

449
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 2: the twenty seven cents and then I give them seven

450
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: pennies instead of them. They're like, hey, hey, you know

451
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 2: I count pennies jewels yells at me all the time.

452
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: I count pennies. He counts dollars. That's a uh.

453
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 5: What about the one time when I saw you put

454
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 5: a blue pill in your pennie pack?

455
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: I didn't remember you came back. As you get older,

456
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: you guys are gonna learn what blue pills are. Now

457
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: we really can't talk about those today, but they are

458
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 2: an enhancement in kind of a way you juicing, No,

459
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: you just take them. It really it works well. When

460
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: you have a couple of cocktails and a blue pill,

461
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: you're ready to roll.

462
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 5: All right, Coach, let's get let's get back to football. Football,

463
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 5: Frank football, Frank don juan Eto, Frank is, Uh, we'll

464
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 5: put that in the back burner. What was your approach

465
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 5: to coaching? How did what was what was your coaching style?

466
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: Fundamentals? Everything had to be fundamentally sound and like like

467
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: your brother said, I would run one play at thirty

468
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 2: six power, forty five power. We would run that forty

469
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: times and thirty nine times it was wrong, and we'd

470
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: get it till we got it right. And you know that.

471
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: And you know we would go strength on strength if

472
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: we had. If we had, we'd have thirty thirty five guys.

473
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: Was the max on a roster, so we'd have thirty

474
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: thirty one guys. I would do everything in my power

475
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 2: to make every kid quit. But I'll tell you what

476
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: what that did is that little tup tub kid that

477
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: would come in that never played a game of football.

478
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: And you know mom and Dad wanted to play football,

479
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 2: to be the next Joe Antanna or something, and this

480
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: kid has no concept. This isn't flag football. Flag football

481
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: is great, but tackle football is a whole different thing.

482
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: And even at that level, these guys are lethal. And

483
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: so I would some of these kids would come into

484
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: practice the first day in August and they couldn't even

485
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: do a push up, didn't even know how to do

486
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: a jumping jack. I'd put all our new kids and

487
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 2: our heavyweights and you know lamos, but I don't mean

488
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 2: that in a bad way, inexperienced players. I'd put them

489
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: in the front of the pack, and then i'd have

490
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: my studs in the back of the pack and we'd

491
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: run the run around the field or run around the track.

492
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: And that way the rookies or the heavyweights or the

493
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: inexperienced players wouldn't be able to fall behind. So my

494
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: team would always stay as a team, and the guys

495
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: in the back, like yourself, Jewels, would push those big

496
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: guys when they'd start crying and sniveling, they'd push him

497
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: and we'd stay. We'd run, I'd slow it down. So

498
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 2: it's all about being a.

499
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 5: Team, not the kid you talk You talk about the

500
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 5: kid that is inexperience. Where is this story going.

501
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 2: Well, what I where the story is going is when

502
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: that kid came to me, he had no clue if

503
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: that kid hold on, and most of them did. By

504
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: the end of that season, that kid would do twenty

505
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: push ups, jumping jacks. He would learn what football is about.

506
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: He would be a better man. He'd be a confident kid,

507
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: and he would be strong, and he accomplished something. Sense

508
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: of accomplishment is really important and it can start at

509
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: a low young level. And that's what we would do.

510
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 8: How is Jules as a ten year old pee wee

511
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 8: football player?

512
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: Well, I used to listen to like McCarty said. McCarty said,

513
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't stand Julian into practice, but I surely respected him,

514
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: and then he won Super Bowls. Julian was that way

515
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 2: at practice, at full speed. He didn't everyone hated him,

516
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: but everyone loved him because you'd make everybody play hard.

517
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: Back then, I used to have to go to different areas.

518
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: I'd go down to East Palo Alto, where the black

519
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 2: community was, and I'd recruit because there wasn't a Pop

520
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: Warner team there at that time. I'd go to East

521
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: Menlo Park where the Tongans and the Samoans were and

522
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 2: I'd recruit and then I'd go to Redwood City was

523
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: kind of known as the tough white boy.

524
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 4: We had simons and tongans too.

525
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was East Redwood City, Menlo Park. It

526
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: was way over I get it, but back then it

527
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 2: was more over there. I'd go over to the other

528
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: side of the you know, on the border of Palo

529
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: Alto and our Menlo Park and Palo Alto, and I'd

530
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: put on little clinics and those kids would come out

531
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 2: and we would give them scholarships because most of them

532
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: didn't have, you know, money, and so we wanted to

533
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: make sure that these kids would play and get an opportunity.

534
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: I was also president for three years, and so you know,

535
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 2: we were building our program. And so if you at

536
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: least in football, you know, if you get a good

537
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: mix of demographics, where is this what is the question

538
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: is how is Jewels? And so we would get all these.

539
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 5: This is why we used to fight when I was like.

540
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: What I was getting at is Joels. This little white

541
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: boy would get in fights with these big tonguins and

542
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: I'd let him fight for like a minute, and Jewels

543
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: would be getting his rear end beat on and I'd

544
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: be over there giggling because you know, he was the

545
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: loud mouth of the team yelling here. But I love

546
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: that little yelling. I could imagine Belichick sitting over there

547
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: going right.

548
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 5: You have no clue.

549
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: I have no clue, but anyway, I can only imagine.

550
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was. He was a pain.

551
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 5: Answer your question, Yeah, answer the question. I gotta do

552
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 5: the answer question.

553
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: Hold on, I got another follow up question, this one, Frank.

554
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: You hear the horror stories of the Pop Warner parents.

555
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: We got a sense of how you deal with the

556
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: team and the kids. How do you deal with Pop

557
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: Warner parents.

558
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: Oh, they let me do anything I wanted. No, it

559
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: was horrible. It was It was really bad. I mean.

560
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: The biggest thing about Pop Warner back in those days,

561
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is now. It was all

562
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: about weight. So anytime you're dealing with weight wrestling Pop

563
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: Warner and our weight was one oh five for a heavyweight.

564
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: It was like eighty five for an older lighter. Seventy five.

565
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: I can't remember it. So we always had to make weight,

566
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: but we got a pound a week once the season started.

567
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: So the first game was one oh five, second game

568
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: was one oh six. So these kids would come in

569
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: camp at like one twenty five my alignment. I'd be

570
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: recruiting these big boys and they'd come in heavy, and

571
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: so then we would run them till they died. Death. Run, run, run,

572
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: and then the parents we'd have meetings. I'd have a

573
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: scale there before practice, we'd run him. I'd have a

574
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: scale after practice. Okay, he dropped three pounds, Mom and

575
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: dad's with all the heavyweights would come in. I called

576
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: this kid, can't eat, this kid can't eat. And I

577
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: swear there was this one kid. I don't know if

578
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: mister you were awesome. He was a veterinarian and this

579
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: kid had to dry. He wasn't. He didn't have a

580
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: lot of weight to lose, and he had to drop

581
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: like twenty pounds. And he was trying to be an

582
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: older lighter yet you know.

583
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 5: Older said he didn't have a lot of weight to lose,

584
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 5: but he didn't have a lot of weight to lose.

585
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, he didn't have a lot of weight

586
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: to lose, right, And I am convinced. On Jamboree day

587
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: it was what's your final way? And day he walked in.

588
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: He could barely walk. He was yellow. I think he

589
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: was giving him some sort of dietary pill from dogs

590
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: or animals, because this kid, he could. He was a mess.

591
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: But the answer to your question is, these parents let

592
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: me do anything they want, and they were all part

593
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: of it because I just wanted their kid to play football.

594
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: And You're gonna be honest, we had a great time.

595
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: It was awesome a little bit, but not really. Frank,

596
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: Do you think your coaching style would translate well to

597
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. No, I'd be putting in jail one

598
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: hundred percent, you know. And you know, like I've said

599
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: this in the past, you know, swearing is so easy

600
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: now everybody. Wait, you know it's so coold.

601
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: It ain't.

602
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 4: You're just old now you swear. No, but I know,

603
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 4: I know.

604
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: But I would swear in the huddle and those little

605
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: twelve year olds and eleven year olds loved it, and

606
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: I would do it in a timely manner, timely manner,

607
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: and they'd look at me and go cool. Coach.

608
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 8: Question for you, Juls, so obviously your experience with n

609
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 8: as a coach is biased. How do you think the

610
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 8: other players viewed your dad as a coach?

611
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 5: I already said, you know, I'd go to local bars

612
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 5: and anytime I go back from college or early in

613
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 5: my career, and I'd always have a bunch of guys

614
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 5: that would come up to me and you know, talk

615
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 5: about how, yeah, your dad was so hard on me.

616
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 5: He made me want to quit, but I never quit

617
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 5: and it made a better I've heard that a few times,

618
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 5: you know, and it's always cool. You know, my dad

619
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 5: did a lot for the community, a lot of the kids.

620
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 5: I mean, he was around for a long time. He

621
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 5: was like the president of Pop Warner, and you know,

622
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 5: a lot of times I don't necessarily, you know, he

623
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 5: didn't come from a family. He didn't have that, and

624
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 5: a lot of these kids that he would help out

625
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 5: didn't have families. So like, I don't know if that

626
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 5: was a connection or he just wanted to win, but

627
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 5: it was probably a mixture of both.

628
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, well said buddy. There's nothing wrong with teaching kids

629
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: to give their best effort and go out of their

630
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: box and apply themselves. And those are I see it

631
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: every day now. I Mean, all parents have gotten it

632
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: that the secret is be with your kids. There's no secret.

633
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: What's the secret. The secret is pay attention to your kids,

634
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: be involved with your kids. Don't drop them off and

635
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: say see a letter, coach. Don't drop them off to

636
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: a teacher and say, Okay, it's your responsibility, teacher, do

637
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: your job, be a parent.

638
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: Even watching way for me, fucking Patriot doctors.

639
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 10: My son played for the Patriots for twelve years. Maybe

640
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 10: this guy ding ding ding ding ding go back. Let's

641
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 10: go back. This is a segment where you go back

642
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 10: in time around the game. This just so happened to

643
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 10: take place around December ninth, nineteen ninety eight. Number one

644
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 10: movie A Bugs Life. I actually remember this because there

645
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 10: was a Bugs Life ride or something at.

646
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 4: The Disney World and they were there.

647
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 5: I think they were pressing it real hard at Disney

648
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 5: World during this game, so I think we even got something.

649
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 5: My dad won't remember that, but I remember that. I

650
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 5: could be completely.

651
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: Off, but I'll do a little digging on that.

652
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 4: You remember that movie, Dad, Bugs Life?

653
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: Don't remember that movie at all? What about R Kelly

654
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: and Slin Dion's I'm Your Angel? Yeaes Selene Dion? I mean,

655
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, she kidd me. She's awesome. I would

656
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 2: be more. Water Boy was awesome. I love I still

657
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: watch water Boy.

658
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: Today, still holds up Titanic.

659
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: Titanic was great. It was love Titanic, Love Titanic, Private Ryan,

660
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: I mean, are you kidding me?

661
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 5: Something about Mary?

662
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: I didn't watch that one that much.

663
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 5: You know, that was more of mine. That was more

664
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 5: of a kid. That was you were you didn't like

665
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 5: funny humor like that.

666
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: No, No, I was Rambo all the way and Edd

667
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: you know that I was over.

668
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: There, Bruce Willis, this is a great.

669
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: Movie here, Marma Gadden was a good movie too, as

670
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: just a great movie. Yeah, I didn't watch that one

671
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 2: that much. Yeah.

672
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 5: What about Big Songs? You're still the one by Shania Twain?

673
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: Love Shania Twain?

674
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: She was beautiful, Yeah, she's she's uh, she was great. Yeah,

675
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: that's a great song. Are you kidding me? It pops

676
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: my belly, Sean. Yeah, my wife would get mad at me.

677
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: How's my turkey neck? Look? Max?

678
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 11: Oh?

679
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 5: Then big songs getting jiggy with it with Will Smith and.

680
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: You know what that was. I Will Smith was great boy,

681
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: but he put himself in a pickle. But he was.

682
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: I was always a fan of him. But I don't Yeah,

683
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about that.

684
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: How do I live? Leanne Rhyme's remember her?

685
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, she was good. I wasn't really a country fan,

686
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: but yeah, but shanias country. But she was like she

687
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: crossed over. She crossed over. You did too. Yeah, I'll

688
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: go with that.

689
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: Frank. When we're on the way to practice back in

690
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: the nineties, what are we bumping in the car and wise?

691
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: No, No, there's no there was music. No, it was serious.

692
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: What are you bumping in your car? What are you bumping?

693
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 4: You were that is bullshit?

694
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: No, no going there. I was in a hurry to

695
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: get the practice. I rush home, get the gear set up,

696
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: get put that. You know. I spent more time at

697
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: practice and I did her work. I had to put

698
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: together practice schedus.

699
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 4: Now you worked from five to five and then I

700
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 4: mean these.

701
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: No, no, but I still well. Nice thing about pop

702
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: Warner was I it didn't start till five, and I

703
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: can't get Yeah, it was like seventh, right, but we

704
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: were we were supposed to be done by seven, but

705
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: I practiced till eight seven. Didn't No, I was kidding.

706
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: I'd go to seven, fifteen, seven to twenty though.

707
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 5: All right, did you watch Steinfelodal? You never watched it?

708
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 5: You didn't watch TV sitcoms.

709
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 2: When I was little when I was when I was younger,

710
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: it was with work. You you didn't want, you didn't

711
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: watch I didn't watch TV back then. This is the

712
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: final year of sein film. Now I watched TV.

713
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and this was the year where that little blue

714
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 5: pill got approved by the FDA.

715
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, thank you.

716
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 5: In the sports world, in nineteen ninety eight NCAA National

717
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 5: champions were Tennessee.

718
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 4: I think I remember that.

719
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 5: They went after Peyton left right? Was that the year

720
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 5: after Peyton?

721
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

722
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 8: This is the first PCs championship too.

723
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: I do remember Ricky Williams. So that Ricky is was

724
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: a was a was awesome.

725
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 4: Heisman Trophy winner Ricky Williams, I mean he was a monster.

726
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Monster.

727
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 5: Super Bowl champion was Denver Broncos NFL MVB Treel Davis. Yeah,

728
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 5: this is when they finally got over the hump? Was

729
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 5: this This wasn't their back to back? This was first one?

730
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 5: Because seven? Who's ninety seven? This is our Was this

731
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 5: our second one?

732
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 8: Or their first might have been the second because ninety

733
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 8: nine was the Rams Titans.

734
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, ninety seven was passed Packers this season.

735
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 5: I hate those Bronco's words.

736
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: So the Broncos won January twenty fifth, nineteen ninety eight.

737
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: That was Super Bowl thirty two. They beat the Packers.

738
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 5: So this is the first that's the first one because

739
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 5: Packers were going trying to go back to back.

740
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: The year before the Packers won. Yes, okay, I'm not

741
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: going to beat bias bias. Oh oh oh, you want

742
00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: me to be biased.

743
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 4: No, well, let's hear it.

744
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Tyrrell Davis. Terrell Davis was in the Hall

745
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: of Time, and there's some things. His numbers are a

746
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: little low. He's an NFL.

747
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 4: He was the MVP of the whole league.

748
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 8: His thing is he had his like three or four

749
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 8: seasons were like some of the best running.

750
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 4: Yeahs in the history of the game.

751
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you won three Super Bowls and six years. Yeah, okay,

752
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: you told me a little sad league. I'm a little

753
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: league dad.

754
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 5: ABC and ESPN negotiate a one point one five billion

755
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 5: per season contract to keep Monday Night football.

756
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. There was nothing better than Monday

757
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: Night Football back then. And I'll tell you what. I

758
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: used to love the Steelers and Terry Bradshaw and Lynn

759
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: Swan and I love that group. You probably saw a

760
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 2: lot of the Steelers. Steelers were on all the time

761
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: because they were the champs.

762
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 5: They were on Monday Night football. Monday Football was this

763
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 5: is nineties. That was a seventy it was twenty years prior.

764
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: Weren't they on that? No, No, I think they got

765
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 2: the contract. They didn't know.

766
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: I think they still had they would still have the

767
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: contract back in that was probably. Yeah, the Monday Night.

768
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 5: In the seventies, there was two networks. ESPN wasn't around yet. No,

769
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 5: they came in seventy nine.

770
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 8: So I think what this is saying here is that

771
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 8: ESPN got a part of when ABC and ESPN kind

772
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 8: of bought each other keeping that Monday Night football onc.

773
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 5: Who's your favorite Monday night football announcer or who's your

774
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 5: late night like Howard Cosell, John Madden?

775
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, it was. It was John Madden. For me.

776
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: Cosell was great, awesome, but I would say it was

777
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: John Madden. I love the Turduckman and you know how

778
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: we do his little Yeah, it was yeah, No, it

779
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: was all the way it was. It was. And I

780
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: I uh, what was that Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning, I

781
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: like the number one overall. Pate Manning is like the

782
00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: man besides Tom Brady. I mean, Tom Brady's obviously number one,

783
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: and Joe Montana obviously is number two, and Peyton Manning

784
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 2: is obviously number three. All right, all right?

785
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 5: Final NFL season for John Elway and Barry Sanders. So

786
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 5: this was their second one.

787
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 8: The ninety eight season is John Elway's final?

788
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: I hate Yeah, it's the sports we're in the ninetie

789
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: We're the games in December of ninety eight. So dealing

790
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: with the ninety eight season.

791
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, yeah, Super Bowl Barry Sanders is in January

792
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 8: ninety eight.

793
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 4: What do you remember about Barry Sanders.

794
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: January of ninety nine.

795
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 8: January of ninety nine, the second eight, the second one.

796
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I tell you Barry ran the ball like

797
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: no tomorrow. But I just couldn't figure out why they

798
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 2: didn't win. I mean, what is the objective of football

799
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: when they didn't have a quarterback winning?

800
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: What does that have to do? What does that do

801
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 4: with anything?

802
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm just you asked me the question. I said,

803
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: Barry Sanders was great, one of the best running backs

804
00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: in the world.

805
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 5: Who's your best running back of all time? God, this

806
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 5: guy's getting Frank.

807
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 2: Well, who's you said? Who's my best running back?

808
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 4: Who's your best running back of all time?

809
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 8: And we're gonna watch his game a little later, Frank,

810
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 8: you know what what Barry Sanders dad thinks of the

811
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 8: top three running backs of all time? What Barry Sanders

812
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 8: dad said, the number one best running back of all time?

813
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim Brown.

814
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the number two is himself, yeah, and the

815
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 8: number three is Barry Sanders.

816
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Jim Brown. I mean, what do you

817
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: say about Jim Brown. I say one thing about Jim Brown.

818
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 2: That was the that was one of my favorite movies ever,

819
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: The Dirty Dozen when he when he ran when they

820
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: when they were bombing the Germans and he had the

821
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: grenades and he ran and was dropping the grenades down

822
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: the shoot.

823
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 5: Belichick thinks Jim Brown is the best running back of

824
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 5: all time. I've heard him say that. He said it

825
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 5: was a man child.

826
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was a man child.

827
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: Cross player of all time too, people say.

828
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, best lacross. I think that's why he loved him too,

829
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 4: because Black.

830
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: Was Thompson Brothers. There's just there's just too many good players.

831
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how you can you know, it's hard

832
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: to rate him.

833
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 4: I can't believe you just tried to correlate winning with

834
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 4: a running back like.

835
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 5: Well, I think he was on the West franchise in

836
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 5: the National He's literally on the worst franchise in the

837
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 5: history of an NFL game.

838
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 4: You think it's his fault and the guy still had

839
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: two thousand yards.

840
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 8: He plays on concrete, like, you're out of here, Come on, Yeah,

841
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 8: I agree, you're right, Frank. Ask me, though, Frank, who's

842
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 8: the better quarterback Joe Montana or Steve Young?

843
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you know, I'll tell you what. We

844
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: love Joe Montana. And when Joe left, we hated Steve Young.

845
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 2: It was pure hate hating him. I like Steve Young

846
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: like ten years after. Steve was a fabulous player. I

847
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: mean he was. His throwing percentage was off the church.

848
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: I think he's number one. He was great. But now

849
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: Joe Montana was our guy. We loved Joe Montana. What'd

850
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: you love about Joe Everything? Yeah, I was just I

851
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: don't know what it was. It was just besides four championships, winner,

852
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 2: winning does matter. I mean, that is our main goal

853
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: in this sport. Winning. You know, there's a lot of

854
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: good players that play out there, but what what.

855
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 5: Is it about that whole narrative of this No, what

856
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 5: what is about?

857
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: What is it talking? What is it about? Why do

858
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: some players win and some players don't? I don't know's it's.

859
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 4: A team game. Not one player is going to make

860
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 4: old team win. I don't know, not one.

861
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: I don't know now why it is little league dad?

862
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: Total little league dad.

863
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 5: Let's talk. Let's talk about these dudes. Who's your favorite

864
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 5: forty nine ers?

865
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 2: You have a mic so I can drop it back? Four?

866
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 2: Super Bowl three? Super Bowl? Hey, well, you know what, Frank,

867
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 2: I think I know what you're doing.

868
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 8: Keep it up because we just learned that not to

869
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 8: put it out there, but certain people get elected to

870
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 8: a certain place, and Ohio, they get lifetime membership the

871
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 8: Top Golf, So we're really trying to.

872
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 4: Who is your favorite niner of all time?

873
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 2: I don't even know what top golf is. I got

874
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: a softball swing. Who is my You know who my

875
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: favorite forty nine er is? It's just Joe. Everything's Joe.

876
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 4: Why was your number forty four?

877
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: Then?

878
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 4: Why was everyone's number forty four?

879
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: Because when my brother played my brother's death and he

880
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: played at the Berkeley School of the Deaf back in

881
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: the sixties and he was number forty four. So my

882
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 2: brother taught me how to play football, taught me how

883
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: to catch hand position. Yeah, I love my brother. So

884
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: that was at forty four. That that was kind of

885
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: our number. You know, that's kind of where that came from.

886
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 5: All right, let's get into this. Let's get into this game. Jackie,

887
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 5: he's at the stage for these Neighborville.

888
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so our.

889
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: Words the neighbor are words here. Because this is a

890
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: peewee game, this is Pop Warner. We're gonna do our

891
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: team section a little different today. We're gonna put a

892
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: little twist on it. We're going to profile the area

893
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: since we can't. We don't know a ton about these kids.

894
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 4: This is ninety eight.

895
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: We were watching the game. We've seen the whole game

896
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: ninety eight. These rosters to fools are other Internet. We

897
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: scoured high low everything. We're just going off the announcer

898
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: on the game that we heard these huge kids. I

899
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: mean this, I want to check the birth certificates, but

900
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: we'll get to that later. So Naperville, Illinois here, we'll

901
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: do a quick little rundown of the area itself, some

902
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: of its notable Native Suns population one hundred and forty

903
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: nine thousand, five hundred forty as of the twenty twenty census,

904
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: twenty eight miles west of Chicago. So it's in the

905
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: Greater Chicago Land Area as they call it, right on

906
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: the DuPage River, the state's fourth most populous city, and

907
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: it was the home of the Office MAX headquarters up

908
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: until twenty thirteen. That's a tough loss for the community

909
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: and some notable natives as we're calling them. Chris Red

910
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: comic member him on SNL, Bob Odenkirk, Sean Pate, and

911
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: Cameron Brad remember him down in Tampa with Tom Owen Daniels.

912
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: Another NFL YEP, Harvard guy, Candace Parker, she just retired.

913
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: What a great WNBA career she had. Andrews Santino Tantinas

914
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: from Yahbleville. Yeah, they claim him on Wikipedia. What do

915
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: you think about that? And it was Chicago, Chicago Land guy.

916
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: That's Chicago, yep, yep.

917
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, kind of your classic Midwest suburb city they

918
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: had and they played some good Pop Warner football back

919
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: in the day.

920
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

921
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 8: Owen Daniels is close to age to be a part

922
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 8: of this Aperville organization.

923
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: Pop war Owen Daniels.

924
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 8: You might have been slightly younger or older than you,

925
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 8: but he's in the ballpark.

926
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: How old is he?

927
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: He was drafted in five he is forty one. You

928
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: may remember he had a He's a fourth round pick

929
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: out of Wisconsin. Played from six to twenty fifteen Texans, Ravens, Broncos.

930
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: He won a super Bowl Super Bowl fifty with the

931
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: Broncos and man made he made.

932
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 5: He made a double move on Jamie Collins. He's a

933
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 5: tight end right yep. Where he did that double move?

934
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: I remember that one, damn. So that's a little high

935
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: level on our opponents today in Aprilville.

936
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 4: All right, pops, what was the scout scouting report of

937
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 4: this team?

938
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: None? We couldn't find anything. You know, we're we're from

939
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: Redwood City, California. We tried our best. Scouting is really important,

940
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: but we couldn't find anything on this thing. So we

941
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: had to just wait to see try to make our

942
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 2: in game adjustments. And I think I was peeking around

943
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 2: when I got there to go find their practice field

944
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: so I can watch them. I probably film or something,

945
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, while they're practicing normal.

946
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 8: But you know, are you insinuating that he's not baby Bill,

947
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 8: he's baby Ernie.

948
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just telling you.

949
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 5: I'm just telling you.

950
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 2: I don't know what.

951
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 5: I'm trying to tell you that I did know you didn't.

952
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: You tried tell me I didn't film everything.

953
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 5: You're putting on a show right now for the cameras, bro'

954
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 5: putting on a show. No, No, you're putting on a show.

955
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: You told Kyler told me. He said, I want you

956
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 2: to tell the truth and be football Frank, And I said, okay,

957
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you. We would try to find every

958
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: bit of information. I would run around all weekend filming

959
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: every team. Am I wrong? What are we doing? Money?

960
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 4: Coaches? You feel you filmed just what they were playing?

961
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: Well, a little bit embellishing, but not too much. Geez,

962
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: just a bit. How do we what did what did

963
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: they do? What was it?

964
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 4: What kind of offense did they run?

965
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: Well? They ran the wing tea and they ran it

966
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: real well they you know. And the biggest problem we

967
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: had the wing tea was definitely we didn't know much

968
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: about the wing tea in Redwood City. And I learned

969
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: a lot more about it when I went to the

970
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, because a lot of teams ran that wing Tea.

971
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 7: Uh.

972
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: The big biggest hurdle we had is they we ran

973
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: five fronts and where we were from California and they

974
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: ran six fronts, So you know, they were running at

975
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: six to two, and so we had a tough time

976
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: at first figuring out how to block it.

977
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 5: Jack, why don't you break down the roadw with city

978
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 5: forty nine ers the Redwood City forty nine ers. We'll

979
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 5: do a quick overview of Redwood City. The municipality as

980
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 5: it's okay, population eighty four and ninety two as of

981
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 5: the most recent census, the one hundred largest music municipalities California,

982
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 5: one hundredth largest city town incorporated area in the state

983
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 5: of California.

984
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 2: Okay, it's one hundred.

985
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 5: Okay, go out of Citi's big state.

986
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: Sounds about right. It's in the Bay Area, twenty seven

987
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: miles south of San Francisco, twenty four miles northwest of

988
00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: San Jose.

989
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 2: In the middle. That's always the hub. You know, it's

990
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: funny you say that, Jack, I never knew the mileage

991
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: because Redwood City is always known to be in the middle.

992
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 2: It is, yeah, Silicon or yeah, the harbor, Yeah, the

993
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: Pet's Harbor was where the boats would come in.

994
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: It's a tech hub as as Frank alluded to their

995
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: Oracle Electronic Arts. They make Madden e a sports Uh.

996
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: They're in Redwood City.

997
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 8: Also shout out to the Redwood Shores Pullman Hotel. The

998
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 8: best night of sleep I've ever had in my entire life.

999
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 5: Crowd Shores shout out, same fire department with different city,

1000
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 5: isn't it?

1001
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: What was that?

1002
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 5: It's like Redwood City. Foster City is considered Rodwood City too.

1003
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:41,959
Speaker 5: Are they used the same?

1004
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: I could? I don't know much about I could tell

1005
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: you one thing. Those guys are going to be underwater

1006
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 2: here soon. Brain cells places. It's all landfill. They do

1007
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 2: not buy in Redwood Shores. They're putting tip.

1008
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 8: Isn't this isn't riverd City Also where the forty niners

1009
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 8: practice facility.

1010
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, the right across the street where we

1011
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: used to be and jewels used to go over there. Oh,

1012
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: I thank you.

1013
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: Hence the name the Redwood City forty nine ers and

1014
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,479
Speaker 1: some notable natives. We got to run through these real quick.

1015
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: Of course. The man right here in front of us,

1016
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman Davante Adams. They claim him on Wikipedia. They

1017
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: claim Redwood City, Roy Williams, Reagan Smith and Olympic swimmer

1018
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: Greg Kimrio and of course our friend Kurt Dala Rosa.

1019
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Wow, I didn't realize we had so

1020
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: many great guys from Redwood City.

1021
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Davante.

1022
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 5: I think DeVante was born there and then he moved

1023
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 5: to Palo Alto.

1024
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1025
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, So there's a little uh do you claim him

1026
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: to Yanopol? Will clam him, will claim him for this episode.

1027
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: And since we are talking to a former member of

1028
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: the Redwood City forty nine ers, the former head coach,

1029
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: we got a little intel on this roster, so we

1030
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: can go through these guys the coaching staff, some notable names.

1031
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: We got him up here on the.

1032
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 5: Screen to moreno fort Spence Garrison thirty two.

1033
00:51:59,280 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: Shout out Spence.

1034
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 5: It was Jeff Wayne Way Scott, Jeff Lang Scott, number

1035
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 5: twenty seven, E J Sal It's s A, It's s Oa.

1036
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: Oh jeez, so.

1037
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 5: You spell it. He was thirty three year with our fullback.

1038
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 2: He was huge. Yeah, he was big. He was like

1039
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: our big boy. PJ.

1040
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 5: Pignatty was sixteen. He was our quarterback. Chris Reese was

1041
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 5: our kicker. I think guard forty four Cogi Yamagata number

1042
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 5: eighty lived in Foster City. Steven Arros one of my

1043
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 5: bash bros for a long time. Number twenty Tony Barnes

1044
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 5: played with him for years. It's one of our linemen.

1045
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: Fifty five, tough up Aponu number twenty seven.

1046
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: You got to add a couple more coaches up there.

1047
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 4: Though we had, we had, we had. Also, Billy Ring

1048
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 4: was on that team.

1049
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: Billy Ring. You gotta add Billy Ring, who dad was

1050
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: a forty nine er.

1051
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is off, off off dome.

1052
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is off.

1053
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: Don't like this is.

1054
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: But the coaches. We got to put Mike Flinn up there.

1055
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: He's my buddy. Shout out Mike. Shout out Mike. And

1056
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,959
Speaker 2: Matt Flint was out there.

1057
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 4: How did you get into coaching or.

1058
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: Your brother started? You know, I never really I played

1059
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: one year of football half a year.

1060
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 7: You know.

1061
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: It was weird. I had a weird upbringing. And I

1062
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 2: played at Sequeo my freshman year until my mom moved away,

1063
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: and then I moved away. I was in Redwood City

1064
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: and then we moved to Sunnyville, and I uh when

1065
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: I moved to Sunnyvale, and I was like, yeah, I

1066
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 2: was a little, but uh I was. I was pretty good,

1067
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: but I uh but I don't know what it was.

1068
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: I always loved football. I loved Roman Gabriel, I love Slater,

1069
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: I love the Rams and uh, gosh, you're catching me off.

1070
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: So inspire you to coach because you love the Ram.

1071
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 2: I just loved football. My brother played football, and I

1072
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: love football, and I just never really had a real

1073
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: opportunity to play. I was really good at flag, but flag,

1074
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: you know, flag is not the same as tackle football.

1075
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: All you flag players, It's cool, it's fun, but it

1076
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: ain't the big boys. So anyway, I just loved it.

1077
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 2: And so when Jason, your brother joined Pop Warner, I

1078
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: just became involved and I started working as the equipment manager,

1079
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 2: and I just then I met Guida, you know Guida.

1080
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: The Guida family was like the godfathers of Pop Warner

1081
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: in Aria and UH coach coach.

1082
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 4: Guida Gweeda, Frank Weeda, Bob Weeda.

1083
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Guida boys, the Gweedo men. And I just

1084
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: got involved in eighty six and I started going to

1085
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: coaching clinics and I started being an assistant coach, and

1086
00:54:58,360 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: then I moved kind.

1087
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 12: Of moved up the latter Swag. What is his name,

1088
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,479
Speaker 12: Steve Swagg Swag. Yeah, he was a great guy, owned

1089
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 12: copy mat he did. He was a president before me.

1090
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 12: When he left I became president. He was actually a

1091
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 12: great president. He's a great man. He's a good man.

1092
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 12: I learned a lot from Steve Smart.

1093
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 5: What made this team so special?

1094
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: Well, one of your goals in Pop Warner at that time,

1095
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: we wanted to boost up when Steve left, I think

1096
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: I can't remember it was in, but we boost we

1097
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 2: We had to go to five football teams. So if

1098
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: you have two junior pewee teams of thirty five on

1099
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 2: each roster, and you're moving into the next level, which

1100
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: is our level Peewee, my level, and you would go

1101
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: from seventy kids to thirty five kids, and then you

1102
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 2: would have more better players. You'd have bigger rosters with betters,

1103
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: bigger farm system exactly. So we were able to put

1104
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: that together. And then it comes down to recruiting. So

1105
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: if you go out and recruit, if you're just waiting

1106
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: for your players to show up like some of these cities,

1107
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 2: did you know not everybody would play. But if you

1108
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: go out and who would you recruit? I told you

1109
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 2: I went down to the east side to ask your mother,

1110
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 2: ask anybody. I'd go down there. I forget the name

1111
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: of the park. Yeah, I'd go to the I'd go

1112
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: to the east side and I'd put up little forty

1113
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: nine ers sign up signs and we'd go push it.

1114
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: And I used to put out all the plaques all

1115
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 2: over the east Side and we'd get the phone calls,

1116
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: and that's how we would get, you know, better players

1117
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: and more players. And you know, so once we went

1118
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: to ten teams, which was five five, and we had

1119
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 2: five cheerleading teams. So, I mean back then, when you're president,

1120
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 2: it's different. You're looking at cheer and football. And so

1121
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 2: we were able to go from eight teams to ten.

1122
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 5: Teams, more farming system, more farming special team.

1123
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: Because we had more kids, I was able to I

1124
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: did a lot of recruiting, and we were able to

1125
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: put together a lot of good players on one team.

1126
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: It wasn't just they didn't show up. We worked. Your

1127
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: dad worked for that.

1128
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 5: All right, All right, what are some of the coaching

1129
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 5: techniques or that you help with these these kids? Did

1130
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 5: you did you do anything special for linement techniques or anything?

1131
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 5: How did you get a twelve year old to execute

1132
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 5: at a high level.

1133
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: The first thing you gotta do is you got to

1134
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: get steroids. So once you got to get them, how

1135
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 2: to you know, you got to make sure they can

1136
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: take a shot and everything's good, and then you get

1137
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 2: their strength. Joking, by the way, I'm just joking.

1138
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: That's for dummies, Frank, I've heard about these legendary songs

1139
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: they used to get these kids to learn these linement techniques.

1140
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'll tell you what. The number one thing.

1141
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,959
Speaker 2: The number one thing in youth sports is fundamentals. We'd

1142
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time on set positions. We had

1143
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time on how to get off

1144
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: the ball. What about the gaps? Okay, then the line.

1145
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: Then we would have to create create We created songs

1146
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: so especially for the offensive line, and we would what

1147
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 2: was our song again, head up the play side. If

1148
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: you're in the gap, we blocked that gap unless it's

1149
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: a trap. So the number one thing is understanding who

1150
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: to block, understanding the game. So we would spend a

1151
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: lot of time on our offensive line knowing if we

1152
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: have a guy head up the playside, that's who you

1153
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: would block. Unless we're trapping. We would take the down block,

1154
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: and then on the defensive side. You know we ran

1155
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: the numbers game, you know we would ninety percent of

1156
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: the time. We're in a thirty one position in our

1157
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 2: inside guy would would take the guard would would be one,

1158
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: his head would be his inside shoulder would be one,

1159
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: and the head would be two and his outside shoulder

1160
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 2: would be three, and then the tackle four, five, six.

1161
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: But anyway, songs, fundamentals and doing the play forty times

1162
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 2: until you get it right perfect.

1163
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 5: We gotta get this thing going all right, getting into

1164
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 5: the lead up of this game, let's set the stage.

1165
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: We are down at the Wide World of Sports, Orlando, Florida,

1166
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: Disney World Resort, only a year old at this point,

1167
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: started ninety seven and ninety eight. So this thing is

1168
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: brandon new, brand new. The Redwood City forty nine ers.

1169
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: Not only were they undefeated this season, hadn't let up

1170
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: a single point all year. This is this is true true,

1171
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: that's incredible, insane. And then just a little foreshadowing here

1172
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: on the rules.

1173
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 2: Our defense. I gotta say, what thing about our defensive

1174
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 2: coach was great? So you it was me? Hey, our

1175
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: offensive coach was great? That was me?

1176
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, full size baby, So no one helped you with anything.

1177
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to come to offensive defense. I had positions,

1178
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: I had position coaches.

1179
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 4: They didn't help with anything. You sound like an eye guy.

1180
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 2: No it was we. You sound like a No, it

1181
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: was we. But I had line, I had Eric. Eric

1182
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 2: helped my offensive line. Matt helped. Everyone helped Matt, you know,

1183
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: but I still ran. I was a coordinator on both sides.

1184
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: I made the calls. I love that.

1185
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 4: Oh my little league dad totally.

1186
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 8: Can you can you place us? So you want a

1187
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 8: few games to get to here?

1188
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: We're now in Orlando. There's still one more game after this.

1189
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 8: If you win this game, just give us a couple

1190
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 8: of game placement of where we are in the season

1191
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 8: for this.

1192
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1193
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 5: So we went undefeated I think ten. And oh, then

1194
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 5: you you play a playoff game.

1195
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: Two playoff games?

1196
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 4: I thought, No, it was North Section takes.

1197
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: So then you go to the regionals.

1198
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 4: Had to get to didn't we.

1199
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: I think we had to play Sonnyville.

1200
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 4: That wasn't the first one. That was our second game?

1201
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 2: Oh that's right. The first one was was that the

1202
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: mud game Mountain View that was at Bay Cities.

1203
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 4: Maybe, no, that was Coyote Creek. The year before.

1204
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 2: I think we played three games. Do we play three games?

1205
01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: Play a game?

1206
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 5: Then you go to North Section? We played Sannyville, we

1207
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 5: beat them, and then we.

1208
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: Played over there we played O Grow the championship.

1209
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 5: And then we went to Nevada and played a Nevada team. Yeah,

1210
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 5: and then we came to Florida. So this this was

1211
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 5: our fifteenth game. How many was a fifteenth game?

1212
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 2: I got a story six, I got a story for you.

1213
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 2: Show you think I'm a I'm a whack job and

1214
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: and you know it's okay. So we were up in Reno, right,

1215
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: and Joe Tobia was our commissioner, and we were playing

1216
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 2: that Nevada squad and they were kind of good.

1217
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 4: Yeah they had tough white boy running back there too.

1218
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah they were kind of good.

1219
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 4: He's big, but it was only him.

1220
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 2: And I think we only beat him twenty eight to nothing,

1221
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: and I think.

1222
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 4: We beat him thirty three. We had a three in

1223
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 4: the middle.

1224
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 2: And like at halftime, Joe comes from and goes, why

1225
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 2: aren't you whipping her? But what's going on? Are they good?

1226
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: Why an't you whopping him? I was going on, I

1227
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 2: had to get my four play players done. I can't remember,

1228
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: but it's like, so I'm not the only whack jobb

1229
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 2: our Commissioner was saying, I want you to whoop these guys.

1230
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 2: Joe love Joe. Yeah he ran that thing, Joe. I'll

1231
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: tell you another story. So you're going to tell you

1232
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 2: the story. Yes, Freez, Yes. So back then, Jamboree was

1233
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 2: your final way and date, so you had to suck

1234
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: these kids down. I'd always come in with heavyweights and

1235
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 2: older lighters. The older lighters had they were tough guys,

1236
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: like jewels and arrows. You had to make sure they

1237
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 2: were they were twelve and under, like eighty five pounds,

1238
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: and that was always tough. But those were your bucks.

1239
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 2: And then you had your linement one five of the heavyweights.

1240
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 2: So Jamboree day they start August first. When you get

1241
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: down there on the thirty first is your last day

1242
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 2: and you have to make sure your kids are all making.

1243
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 5: The first This is the official win, This is the

1244
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 5: official final way.

1245
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: And to make the team.

1246
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 4: Oh, it's like a big thing. It's like an event.

1247
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 2: It's a big event. It's it's there's.

1248
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 4: No game, but all the teams are there to have weigh.

1249
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 2: Ins, right, and so when when that happens, you know,

1250
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 2: you have to make sure, like we'd get up in

1251
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 2: the morning, everybody would take a big poop. I'd have

1252
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: all the art. Used to have the guys with me,

1253
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 2: like reached the big heavyweights. I haven't spend the night,

1254
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 2: and we'd make sure they go poop in the morning

1255
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: before we go down. And then we would go meet

1256
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 2: at the gym, remember the gym.

1257
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 4: And they may be spitting the whole time spitting.

1258
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 2: And we'd go meet. We'd go meet at Jim West.

1259
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: There used to be a gym down there, and we'd go,

1260
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you know, we needed a real official scale,

1261
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: and he'd be like three pounds over. So we there

1262
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 2: was this really foggy room there, you know, it was

1263
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: like kind of hot inside, and we would put those

1264
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 2: kids in that little foggy room, right and and how

1265
01:03:54,680 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 2: long upuntil they turned into raisins And we put him

1266
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 2: in that room, you know, because we had to like

1267
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: maybe we had to drop two or three pounds, and

1268
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: we had to be official, you know, and so and

1269
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: so we would we would do that, right, and so

1270
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 2: then we go to jamboree. We were the only guys

1271
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 2: that did that. Nobody else would do that. We were

1272
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 2: the only ones, and we won the super Bowl. We

1273
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: won the championship. And so after the super Bowl, Joe

1274
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 2: Toby calls me. He goes, Hey, goes Frank. I go what.

1275
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 2: He goes, I got film with you at Jim West

1276
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 2: sucking down players. I go, no, really, and I go,

1277
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 2: where'd you get that? He goes Heatherington Bob. I go

1278
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: the coach I fired from the midgets that used to

1279
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 2: wrap his kids in plastic bags and have him run.

1280
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 2: And he goes, yeah, I go, what do we do?

1281
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 2: He goes nothing, I'll take care of it. So Joe,

1282
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: thank you. I don't know if you can use that,

1283
01:04:55,840 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? He man Genie, he manjeaneing

1284
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: me exactly. But anyway, that was the story, and Joe

1285
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 2: let it go. Joe let it go. Joe let it

1286
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 2: go because you know why, because I was the only

1287
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 2: guy that did that.

1288
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's get on this game. Let's run through

1289
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: this game. I was not at this game. Kyler was

1290
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: not at this game. We have two primary sources with

1291
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: us here today, and we had this game on DVD.

1292
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: We watched this thing from kickoff to the final whistle

1293
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: before we started this episode. It was awesome. Let's run

1294
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: back through it to set the stage. It's December ninth,

1295
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. We're in December, Orlando. It's eighty three

1296
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: degrees today was eighty three. I was looking it up.

1297
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: They had that on file.

1298
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I felt like it was so much harder because

1299
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 5: it was humid.

1300
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the humidity was through the roof that day.

1301
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 5: And we didn't know humid as you can say. But

1302
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 5: I just remember the football fields like we're you know,

1303
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,439
Speaker 5: in the nineties, there wasn't the urf fields. There wasn't

1304
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 5: turf field yit. So you go to high schools and

1305
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 5: they were dog shit. There'd be fucking dirt passages in

1306
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 5: the middle and stuff. And I remember when we walked

1307
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 5: on this field, we felt like pros. Remember that I do.

1308
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of when soccer started getting in girls

1309
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 2: sports started getting in and all the fields were ruined. Yeah,

1310
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: that was a big thing, you know when I when

1311
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 2: I was when we were running the president, you know,

1312
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 2: when I was president, and we had to keep the

1313
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 2: fields clean and we had to start rotating. And then,

1314
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: you know, prior to that, it was only football and baseball.

1315
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: That was all there was. And then then all of

1316
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 2: a sudden, soccer came in and then girls sports all

1317
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 2: good stuff for good reasons, but it would abuse the fields.

1318
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 2: And then the fields were just turning the mud pits.

1319
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 2: And then that's when this astro turf and you know,

1320
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 2: the different turf started coming in, which was right.

1321
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: Is an anti turf podcast, but yeah, yes, back to

1322
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: the game at hand. Here today tangent, big, big size disparty.

1323
01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, these kids, if we could go back and

1324
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 1: look at birth certificates, one guy for sure, thirty five,

1325
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: he's so big it felt like it was ten guys though,

1326
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: thirty five Spike dominating full Daniel Monte running back. They

1327
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: were lining up his name again, Oh man Anthony uh

1328
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: Petronelli or something and his name anybody knows Naperville and.

1329
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 4: Naperville ninety eight team.

1330
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 5: We got a comment because we want to see his

1331
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 5: goddamn oh crap, six D bucks.

1332
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 8: Hold on anyone actually who was a part of this game,

1333
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 8: and there's any more information, please call our tip lines.

1334
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, please call it tip seriously.

1335
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: So to start this thing off, we're struggling to move

1336
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: the rock the Redwood City forty nine.

1337
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 13: We can't get I think first drive we fumbled the

1338
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 13: first drive thirty five gashes us on a draw play

1339
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 13: up the middle.

1340
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: Second play force of fumble. We're hype, can't do anything

1341
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: with it. But that leads us to the other story

1342
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: of the first half, which is Steven Arrows punting. I mean,

1343
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: he's like, it's like Johnny Ecker out there.

1344
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 4: Steven Arrows by far was the MVP of this game.

1345
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: Insane.

1346
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 5: I mean Steve not only just in the punt game,

1347
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 5: but we'll get into later. He had the screen for

1348
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 5: a touchdown on defense like he had great plays because

1349
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 5: this was a tricky, tricky like wing te defense. Yes,

1350
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 5: by go ahead the.

1351
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: First time seeing the wing t offense that year. As

1352
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier, that bear front like we had our

1353
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: hands full. And then you look at the difference in

1354
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: the game and it comes down to special teams and

1355
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: flipping the field. We're flipping the field every which way.

1356
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: Sure we got a punt. I think it was six

1357
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: punts in the first half. Oh, I mean, we're flipping

1358
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: the field. And Frank talked about it when we were

1359
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: watching it. The importance of it's a hidden weapon in

1360
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 1: pob Warner is having a good punt game.

1361
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 2: Punt game is important, very important specialty.

1362
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 4: Just our first time punting, but not we.

1363
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 2: Had a good punt. Team were barely punted, that's true,

1364
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 2: but we still had a good punting.

1365
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: In the second quarter, Steven Arrow's doing more great. Steven

1366
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: Arrows things. Picks up a first down on a fake punt.

1367
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 4: I don't think it was a fake punch.

1368
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 5: I think it was about to get blocked and he

1369
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 5: pulled it down.

1370
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 2: It worked itolition. Yeah, no fake punt.

1371
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: But in the second quarter, the levee finally broke this

1372
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 1: little play action counter waggle scene pass that Naperville was

1373
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: loving to thirty five. It was working, it was working,

1374
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: and then it finally got him down to the goal line.

1375
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: They ran the same thing, punched it in number thirty five,

1376
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 1: but the air in the air, in the air, but

1377
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: they missed the pat. So we're down six to nothing

1378
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: at the half third.

1379
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 8: But real quick, just because rules Pop Warner, at this level,

1380
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 8: a pat kick is worth two points, and a two

1381
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 8: point conversion or run the ball is only worth one.

1382
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: Point, foreshadowing that'll come in handy.

1383
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: Also, let's not this was the first time you guys

1384
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 2: were scored on all.

1385
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 4: Year, first time scored on all year.

1386
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 2: Well, who almost cried? What was going on? There was

1387
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 2: almost crying. I was devastated.

1388
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: Terrible loser, Saint Jude. We're building a whole new wing

1389
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: on that thing after this episode. But halftime down six nothing,

1390
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: A lot of oranges consumed. We're getting our vitamin C,

1391
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: we're getting our hydration back. Frank, you remember any of

1392
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: the messaging or or any of the speeches going on

1393
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: at halftime in this one.

1394
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just we had to play physical. Yep,

1395
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 2: we we you know that waggle. We had to hit

1396
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 2: that quarterback to make sure that he knew what was

1397
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 2: going on when he'd come out of that waggle in

1398
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 2: the barn side and we had to stop that big boy.

1399
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I know. And so the message was

1400
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 2: gang tackling. Hit him, hit him, hit him, hit him. Sorry.

1401
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: We remained scoreless for most of the third quarter, finally

1402
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: down in the waning minutes of the third quarter.

1403
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 2: Sorry, I want to go back on one more thing.

1404
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 2: Sorry jack uh.

1405
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:09,480
Speaker 8: You had a quarterback, PJ broke his wrist a game prior.

1406
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 4: To this our starter?

1407
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 2: Can you can we talk about him for a starter?

1408
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 5: We go and we played Oak Grove and he was

1409
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 5: just he was a great little quarterback because like Pop Warning,

1410
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 5: you throw the ball maybe four or five times a game,

1411
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 5: maybe three, and PJ would he'd be able to dot it,

1412
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, he'd always hate either Cogi

1413
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 5: or we had these little running back release plays and uh,

1414
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 5: in like garbage time after we're blowing out Oak Grove

1415
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 5: to go was it Oak Grove or was it in.

1416
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 2: The I can't remember. I think it was. I think

1417
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 2: it's I think it's commented on TVD. Yeah.

1418
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 5: He uh, he broke his arm and Tafa Papuno had

1419
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 5: to come in and Tafa Papoo only had one game

1420
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 5: under his belt and that was in Rena when we

1421
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 5: played against the Nevada team and then but so like

1422
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 5: this was a big game for Talfa. I mean, backup

1423
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 5: quarterback comes in and just like for twelve year olds,

1424
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 5: being able to get a play communicated running an offense.

1425
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 5: I mean there was a couple of fumble snaps here

1426
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 5: and there, but I mean it's the kid hadn't played

1427
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 5: all year.

1428
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: Like losing your best picture when you go into the Williams.

1429
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was devastating.

1430
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 8: So he started the backup started this game here backup

1431
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,600
Speaker 8: started this game, but PJ got in the game in

1432
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 8: the second quarter.

1433
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 4: PJ came in.

1434
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: What's the coaching decision on that one? Now, if I

1435
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 2: remember right, he PJ was our quarterback, and you know,

1436
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 2: we we went to we went to the championship, the

1437
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 2: National Championship in Disneyland and went PJ wanted to play,

1438
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: so we rigged it up that his cast he would

1439
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 2: have a free hand. He broke his wrist. You know,

1440
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 2: that's a common break and pop warner for kids, and uh,

1441
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 2: he just wanted to play, and so we made it

1442
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 2: happen that he would be able to play in the

1443
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 2: big games.

1444
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 1: Making dreams come true.

1445
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,679
Speaker 5: But he only I think he played what he probably

1446
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 5: played quarterback or something. He may have got hurt again

1447
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 5: or something, but he had a little spark. I think

1448
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 5: he had one run reception.

1449
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: Shout out to PJ.

1450
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 4: Then shot out to PJ and tough of papou PJ.

1451
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,719
Speaker 2: I love you guys, great guys.

1452
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: They really Brady bled soe that thing late in the

1453
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: third quarter. We're driving. Earlier in the game, we tried

1454
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: the middle screen a few times. Wasn't quite there, but

1455
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 1: it was showing signs of maybe this could work. Maybe

1456
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: this is something we can exploit. Uh, twenty five.

1457
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 5: Yards, I believe to Steven Arrows, No.

1458
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 4: I think it was like sixty five.

1459
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: It was a long I mean it was like about

1460
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 1: to do that thing.

1461
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 5: I think it was like sixty seventy five. It was

1462
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 5: like a sixty five yard.

1463
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 8: Screen screen was the yard marks weren't.

1464
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 5: We'll go with Yeah, it was like a fifty yarder.

1465
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 5: We were at midfield. Yeah, we were like, yeah, maybe

1466
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 5: even may.

1467
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: Frank diald it up perfectly. So a minute fourteen left

1468
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: in the third tie this thing up six six. Can't

1469
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: move the ball on them.

1470
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 5: Coach, coach walk us through the screenplay. Yes, why did

1471
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 5: you call that play at that time? No tangenting or

1472
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 5: just do you want to want to answer nothing.

1473
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 4: We don't want to know about fundamentally, why did you

1474
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 4: call these plays?

1475
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 2: Because these guys were running that sixth front. They were

1476
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 2: hitting every gap and they were coming across the line

1477
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: of scrimmage. Linebackers were coming forward. So when we ran

1478
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 2: that middle screen, I noticed that these guys. I ran

1479
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 2: it in the third in the second quarter, and I go,

1480
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 2: oh my god, we just we just didn't execute the play.

1481
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 2: And I said Okay, I got to hold this. We

1482
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: had to get through more MPR get all the other

1483
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 2: players played, and that left us with three dbs. You know,

1484
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 2: they were playing a cover three, so once they continued

1485
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: to just come through every gap and then we just

1486
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 2: held it for the right time and when we ran

1487
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 2: that screen, they were all they didn't hold up. They

1488
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 2: were coming across that line of scrimmage, so we caught him.

1489
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 5: Great play by Talfa to get it off. Yes, because

1490
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 5: he got tipped a couple of times. I believe this

1491
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,759
Speaker 5: one even got tipped in another great catch by Steven

1492
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 5: Arros to catch the deflected ball.

1493
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 4: He had a great cut back. It was a great run.

1494
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 5: He's skinned up a guy, meaning he attacked him, gave

1495
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 5: himself a two way go and then cut back on

1496
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 5: a guy.

1497
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 4: It was. It was a really great play.

1498
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 2: Stephen played too at Medlow. He went and play. Stephen

1499
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 2: was a great ballplayer.

1500
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: Great kid had to play here by Steve to tie

1501
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 1: this thing up. And it's uh. As we mentioned earlier,

1502
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,799
Speaker 1: the rules with extra points and point after attempts. Couldn't

1503
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: run the ball very well on these guys couldn't throw

1504
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: the ball very well. We got a backup. So we

1505
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: Frank Alex to kick the extra point, which is worth

1506
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: two points, two points. And this thing, well, I walk

1507
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: us through this, this two point kick.

1508
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 2: So I'll tell you guys, were we weren't running the

1509
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 2: ball well, so we said, okay, Recie. We had Reese,

1510
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 2: Christopher Reese. He would like run a full speed and

1511
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 2: kick them with his toe full speed. It was like,

1512
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: but he did it like seven out of ten times.

1513
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 2: I mean he did it. It was ugly, but it worked.

1514
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: And my mother died in July, Jules's grandmother. And so

1515
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 2: the reason I bring that up is, weird things happen.

1516
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 2: You know, like Brett Farv the ninety threw five touchdown

1517
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 2: passes against the Raider. You know how weird things happen.

1518
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 2: You know how the Patriots came back and one is

1519
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 2: all the loop moons a line that weird stuff that

1520
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 2: happens in sports. I'm telling you it happens. And we

1521
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 2: went to elect to kick the ball. That ball hit

1522
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 2: the upright, the right, upright doom and dinged in. And

1523
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: I swear to this day it was my mom saying, honey,

1524
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 2: you're gonna win and knock that ball in. But that's

1525
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 2: what happened and we scored up.

1526
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 5: Eight to six.

1527
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: The score would stay that way until the very final

1528
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: whistle of this game, but it was saved by a

1529
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 1: Jewels one and did interception with five minutes left in

1530
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 1: the game. After that we ran the clock out. The

1531
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: defense made a great stand in this thing ends eight

1532
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: to six, and we go on to beat the oak Cliff.

1533
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: Our words in the.

1534
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 5: Super here and then on the ste Yeah we played

1535
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 5: two our words.

1536
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we played two hard words. Do you remember

1537
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:22,839
Speaker 2: that interception?

1538
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 5: I didn't remember until I saw it now, but then

1539
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 5: I kind of remember it when I when.

1540
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 2: I saw jogged your memory.

1541
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 5: Then I remember, like I didn't really play a great game.

1542
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 5: They were pretty like all over us and the in

1543
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 5: the run game, but I always then it clicked that

1544
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 5: I remember after the game, like a lot of guys

1545
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 5: made good plays in certain situations, like Eric Braino had

1546
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 5: a big tackle on a punt that got them all

1547
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 5: the way back. Uh Steven had like insane punts, big play.

1548
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 5: I remember e J sal had a he had an interception.

1549
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 5: Didn't he Ej have an interception? No, he had a

1550
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 5: he had one, you know, like a big play, big place, you.

1551
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 2: Know, I know I'm a homer. I know, I'm a dad,

1552
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 2: full full on dad, right, but I got to tell

1553
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 2: you something. Every athlete has a big play moment, and

1554
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 2: some guys make that big play in the big game,

1555
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 2: in the big moment, and other guys don't make that

1556
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 2: big play.

1557
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,560
Speaker 5: Now you see why we used to fight because he

1558
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 5: used to try, right, and I would just say, like,

1559
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 5: can you get to the point, like let's go well.

1560
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 2: Again, you made the big interception two minutes left in

1561
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: the game. They were down inside our twenty, weren't they.

1562
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this is a team sport.

1563
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 2: It is a team sport. But somebody's got to make

1564
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 2: the big.

1565
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:48,839
Speaker 5: Play steps did when he made a touchdown sixty five yarder.

1566
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 2: Championship teams have more than one.

1567
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 4: All right, all right, little league dad omer.

1568
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 2: I know you like to downplay yourself, but my job

1569
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 2: as a parent is to upplay you. No, that's it.

1570
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 8: So it's wrapped up. Jack said, score, and then you

1571
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 8: went on to go to the Super Bowl, which you won.

1572
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 8: This is very similar to the miraclean Ice where you

1573
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 8: had to beat the Russians in the semi final game

1574
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 8: to get to the gold medal game.

1575
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the team we played. They were Texas team.

1576
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 2: They were they were they were fast, and they were

1577
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 2: really big. They were good. Uh, fortunately maybe they were

1578
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 2: just a little undisciplined and we beat them twenty two

1579
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 2: to nothing.

1580
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 5: The aftermath of this game, pops, we go on, We

1581
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 5: beat Aperville eight to six. Rc our team goes on

1582
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 5: to win the Peewe super Bowl Championship super Bowl against

1583
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 5: the Oak Cliff Our Words Texas team. We beat them

1584
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 5: twenty two zero. How do we celebrate this game? I

1585
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 5: don't do you remember?

1586
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 2: No? You know, yeah, if you remember, it was like

1587
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,919
Speaker 2: we were up in the hotel room and do you remember, uh,

1588
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 2: what's two Pakalani and he was out front having a

1589
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 2: couple of cocktails and all you heard was him going

1590
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: remember how he used to laugh? So the Tongans were

1591
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 2: up there having fun. Yeah, and some Owens. Yeah. The

1592
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 2: Tongans and some OANs were having all the fun. And

1593
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 2: we were just enjoyed watching them. So that was pretty

1594
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 2: much it. It was great they were I mean, it

1595
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 2: was just awesome.

1596
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 5: Then we go on like a we went to a

1597
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 5: water park afterwards or something.

1598
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, you are right. We went to we

1599
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 2: went to New York the Epcot New York City and

1600
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 2: it was snowing. They had the snow going. You remember that.

1601
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 2: They had great food. It was like we were in

1602
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 2: the downtown New York and we got to uh walk

1603
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 2: down that street. It was awesome. Yeah, that's right. You

1604
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 2: celebrate a boy going to Epcot. Well, we did go

1605
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 2: to Epcot, but there's a place in Disney World where

1606
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 2: they do filming. You know. It's kind of like uh Hollywood,

1607
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 2: and so they have streets of New York or streets

1608
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 2: of Chicago.

1609
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 4: The whole They shut up the thing for us, the whole.

1610
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole Pop Warner it was shut off, and

1611
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 2: we were all we were all in there and there

1612
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 2: was food up and down the streets and they had

1613
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 2: it snowing and it was It was really amazing.

1614
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 4: Actually, it was so fun. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1615
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 5: Imagine being with all your like friends when you're twelve

1616
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 5: years old, missing a week of school, going to Disneyland,

1617
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 5: playing a couple of Disney World, play a couple of

1618
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 5: football games.

1619
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: And you got Christmas break coming up.

1620
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 4: We had Christmas living.

1621
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys got a week off of school for this,

1622
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 2: Well we didn't. We took a week off.

1623
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: Well yeah, gotta get the body ready. You gotta get

1624
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: down there, walk through everything made a week off. What

1625
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: do you say when you win the Super Bowl but

1626
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 1: you already had disney World. We're going to.

1627
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 2: Die. We're want Disney World.

1628
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 4: Now.

1629
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 5: If you would have had the film of Naperville, what

1630
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 5: coaching change would you have made?

1631
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 4: What adjustment would you have adjusted?

1632
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 2: Well, I would have definitely you know, familiarized our team

1633
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 2: with that six front. I'm not really sure. I'd have

1634
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 2: to Uh, I'd have to watch it on film. We

1635
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 2: never really, I never really played a lot of six fronts.

1636
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 2: You know, everyone down in our area it was all

1637
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 2: pretty much five fronts or four fourst But those those

1638
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 2: outside men were off the ball or they they'd widen

1639
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 2: them up and we'd have big you know, four gaps,

1640
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:42,719
Speaker 2: big three gaps, three.

1641
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 14: Holes and four holes. But I don't know, i'd have

1642
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 14: to study it. What was the score of the Super Bowl?

1643
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 14: The actual game against Oak Cliff twenty so this was

1644
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 14: the Super Bowl? Yeah, kind of was.

1645
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like when the Patriots used to play the

1646
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 8: Colts in the scamp.

1647
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 2: Kind of like when the Patriots played the uh Kansas

1648
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 2: City Chiefs, you know, but still it was a close game.

1649
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 5: That probably the other way around because Naperville had already

1650
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 5: been there. We weren't the Patriots, we were the Chiefs. Yeah,

1651
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:15,959
Speaker 5: and then finally they came over. We only did it once.

1652
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 2: You guys never went back. This is the one year. Yeah, yeah,

1653
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 2: I moved up with Jules. When Jeels went up, I

1654
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 2: went up and coached the junior midgets with coach Cuita,

1655
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 2: and then I became the head coach of the midgets

1656
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 2: and we got knocked out by Oak Grove. We got

1657
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 2: to the final game again with our team. With this team,

1658
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 2: he was where was he? Tyrell? Tyrell was like he

1659
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 2: had like three or four national championships at the midget level,

1660
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 2: midget levels. Tough. That's thirteen fourteen. But remember he remember

1661
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 2: when you played them. Yeah, they whooped us. They whooped us.

1662
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 5: They had like eight older lighters, fourteen, they had guys

1663
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 5: driving to it.

1664
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was they were fourteen.

1665
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 5: But Dad hair under no, you could be fifteen in midge.

1666
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 2: I was fourteen fourteen, thirteen fourteen, yeah, thirteen fourteen.

1667
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 8: Did you get up playing with I know we talked about Spans,

1668
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 8: but anyone else from this River City team that you

1669
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 8: played high school with or played like further Ono.

1670
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 2: A lot of the midget players came went to Woodside.

1671
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 2: I don't remember the midget team. Uh yeah, I kind.

1672
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 4: Of thought of guys went to Sequoia too.

1673
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, remember Zataan went to Zequia who was on the

1674
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 5: Sam Sam Sam with my ass in high school and

1675
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 5: when we were twelve and we were eight.

1676
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it had nothing to do with your mouth. Frank.

1677
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 8: Where does this rank? This game rank among your favorite

1678
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 8: games of all time? I would say they prevailed my

1679
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 8: Our favorite.

1680
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: Game of all time was was when I finally beat Sonnyville.

1681
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 2: You know that was that was our biggest game. Was

1682
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 2: that coach Dolf Dolf or Sonnyville. He was a great coach.

1683
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 2: They the Sunnyvale Rockets were that was the last night

1684
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 2: and pee wee that's right, the Black Knights rock kind

1685
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 2: of midget. Yeah, Junior Midge, now that it took me

1686
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 2: like five years, four years to beat him. He beat

1687
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,440
Speaker 2: me every year in the playoffs.

1688
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 4: And I coached the ting Boys.

1689
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the two things.

1690
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 4: They were twins and they went to USC.

1691
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: Oh that's right.

1692
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 4: They were like the baddest little dudes they were.

1693
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 2: And he was a quarterback. We used to throw the

1694
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 2: ball a lot with him, Ran and Ryan Brandon and Ryan.

1695
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 2: They were little studs. Yeah, they were studs and we

1696
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 2: we shucks. We used to throw the ball. I'd say

1697
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen times. I'd always hit my backs. Those guys

1698
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 2: were good. They were real good and real smart.

1699
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 4: They were quick. Yeah, and they were athletics.

1700
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 2: So yeah, they were ding ding ding ding ding ding

1701
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 2: ding ding ding ding. What is that?

1702
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: Oh that is another one. Put it in the pot.

1703
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 1: Eight hundred bucks, eight hundred bucks, eight hundred bucks.

1704
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 4: Rich Eisen for you, rich baby, what's the fun for.

1705
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: Change? Thomas Danny for Saint Jude's Yeah, that's.

1706
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 2: Love, Rich.

1707
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 5: But the integrity score, we just had an integrity episode.

1708
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 5: The score kind of got me with the.

1709
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 1: I'm glad, Frank said some I'm so numb to it

1710
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: at this point, I didn't even hear the I didn't

1711
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: my my alarm bells didn't even go off.

1712
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 2: That should be a thing Coast for for Rich every

1713
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,719
Speaker 2: time somebody swears on this podcast, we should donate money

1714
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 2: to Saint ju What a great No, it's all my reminders.

1715
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 2: I wanted it, you know, I just when I see

1716
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 2: that commercial. I just cry literally, you know, and the things.

1717
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 2: We have so many good people in this world, and

1718
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 2: that's just a wonderful place if your child was sick,

1719
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,480
Speaker 2: it's just h you know, it's just awesome.

1720
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 4: That they're everywhere everywhere.

1721
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:46,560
Speaker 1: Big One's in Memphis, I believe.

1722
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 2: Kind of Shank Jude and Shriners. You know, I think

1723
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 2: there's more Shriners in San Francisco, but similar I think.

1724
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: Man, i'mbout to tear up just thinking about it.

1725
01:26:55,720 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's the importance of you sports for kids in

1726
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 5: the generations and the youth. What do you think? What

1727
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 5: do you think kids get out of youth sports?

1728
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 2: You know, I always thought a board mind was a

1729
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 2: wandering mind, and I think it's important to keep your

1730
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 2: kids active and involved, whether it be sports, whether it

1731
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:23,759
Speaker 2: be dancing, whether it be chest whether it be booger picking.

1732
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 2: I don't really care what you're going to do. Whatever

1733
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 2: you do, do it well, practice it and get good

1734
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 2: at it, and involve yourself. That's what I think is

1735
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 2: important youth sports. We were a competitive group. We played

1736
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 2: like the higher levels. It's not for everybody, but you know,

1737
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 2: as long as we're moving our body, we're being active.

1738
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 2: We're thinking we're learning competition. I think competition you got

1739
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 2: to have a loser in a competition, so you know,

1740
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 2: there's really no loser, right.

1741
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 4: Why do you have to have a loser in competition.

1742
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 2: Because you've got to have a winner? Why would be?

1743
01:27:58,760 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 2: It's just the way it is.

1744
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 5: And it's because you got to teach kids the failures

1745
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 5: of the future that they're going to have.

1746
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 4: That it's okay to fail.

1747
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 2: That's very well said, Thank you, son.

1748
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 5: Yes, it's okay to fail, and you're going to fail,

1749
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 5: but you need to know that you're going to fail.

1750
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 2: Right, well said. I just think it's important, you know.

1751
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 2: And I don't think as long as you're applying yourself

1752
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 2: and you're doing something, even if you do lose, you're

1753
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 2: still a winner. You're still competing, you know. So I

1754
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 2: think those are important things for children and everybody. Losing

1755
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 2: is only a failure if you don't learn from it.

1756
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah why why? Well said?

1757
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 8: And then so I've always I played youth football around

1758
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 8: this time. I've always been adamant about youth football because

1759
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 8: it taught me ship. God damn, it taught me things

1760
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 8: I never was able to learn at school. Like, so,

1761
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 8: can you as someone who's been around a lot of

1762
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 8: young men and women learning and playing football, Like, what

1763
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:58,759
Speaker 8: things do football? How does football and you football specifically

1764
01:28:58,840 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 8: help make better people?

1765
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 2: Wow? Well, we coached Jules, I coached little league, and

1766
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 2: I coached football. Football was our main sport. But you

1767
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:13,759
Speaker 2: know football, it's man on man or human on human,

1768
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 2: you know, and you really learn if you're mono on

1769
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 2: mono and you apply yourself with every ounce of your

1770
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 2: energy fighting for that one yard, you really learn what

1771
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 2: hard work is. You really learn what achievement is by

1772
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 2: utilizing your body your mind to achieve that goal that

1773
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 2: you know football, It was just like, I mean, ten

1774
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: yards is not a lot, but it really is in

1775
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 2: football to try to pick up that first down. You know.

1776
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 2: That was always the great thing about football for me,

1777
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 2: just the effort you have to put in to gain

1778
01:29:55,160 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 2: that inch and if you do gain it, you know

1779
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 2: you learn something from it.

1780
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 4: So that that makes better young men?

1781
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it. What it makes is they understand

1782
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 2: how far they can apply themselves.

1783
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 5: Working together, working together, setting goals, sacrificing, learning each other.

1784
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 5: Like those are the things you learned? Yeah, I got

1785
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 5: one more, sapping yelled at I get yeah, you make

1786
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 5: me so.

1787
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 2: I for you.

1788
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 8: So in this episode, we've saw how much time and

1789
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 8: energy and importance you put on youth sports. You were

1790
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 8: president of a youth football program, and your son obviously

1791
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:37,759
Speaker 8: went on to have a great football career. Not everyone

1792
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 8: gets to do that, not every kid in that program.

1793
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 8: What was it like for you as a parent to,

1794
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 8: you know, put all this time and energy with your

1795
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 8: kids and your family and see, you know, your son

1796
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 8: go off and do this, do what he aspire to do.

1797
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 2: How did that come from your perspective? How did that

1798
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 2: make you feel? It's tough, you know, it's uh, the

1799
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,799
Speaker 2: hard work they put in. You know, obviously you always

1800
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,639
Speaker 2: want to win, right And we just talked about winning

1801
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:09,759
Speaker 2: and losing, but you learn, you know, you learn about

1802
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 2: winning and losing. But when it's your own child and

1803
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 2: the media, and you know, when everybody's watching and they

1804
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 2: start criticizing your child, or if your child gets nicked up,

1805
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:28,799
Speaker 2: or if your child fails or makes a mistake, it hurts.

1806
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 2: I mean there was times in Julian's career where his

1807
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 2: mother and his sister would shut the drapes on game day.

1808
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 2: We wouldn't let anybody over because there was always like,

1809
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 2: you know, I first started out as a party. Everybody

1810
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 2: was coming over and you're having a good time, not me.

1811
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 2: But and then you know, once Jiells would get dinged up,

1812
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:52,639
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, you guys all got to go out,

1813
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 2: gone see you letter by And so that was like

1814
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 2: game one. And then you know, as he grew up

1815
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 2: in the professional level, we stopped having friends over because

1816
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 2: it's just complete anguish, you know. And I thought we

1817
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 2: were weird until I went to my first game in

1818
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 2: New England. They put us in where the parent section

1819
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 2: is and I was with my oldest son, Jason, and

1820
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 2: mom and I can't remember if Nick was there. And

1821
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 2: we thought we were weird because me and my wife

1822
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 2: would not sit together. She'd sit over there, I'd sit

1823
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 2: over there because we'd just fight. And and so when

1824
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 2: we got in the stands, everybody was the same.

1825
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 4: Every parent he was like.

1826
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 2: We were like, I don't want to be the gay.

1827
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 2: He better not make a mistake. Oh god, I hope

1828
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 2: he doesn't get hurt. Oh my god. We're like, hey,

1829
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 2: we're normal. You know, every parent thinks the same way.

1830
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 2: And if you're in if you don't have a kid

1831
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 2: playing pro ball. You just don't know and shut up.

1832
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:56,719
Speaker 2: Shame on you. You know, mom and dad, brother and sister,

1833
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 2: family members, they go, it's it's it is hard and

1834
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 2: it's heartbreaking and it's jubilation. I was fortunate. We won

1835
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 2: three Super Bowls. We played with Brady Gronk, all those guys,

1836
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 2: I mean we it was uh, it's more than you

1837
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:21,719
Speaker 2: can imagine. And then you know Jules turning his career

1838
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 2: into what it what it was unbelievable.

1839
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 1: There were questions Jack oh Man off based on that one,

1840
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 1: picking up where Frank left off there. Frank, I've seen

1841
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: the BTS footage here, so I have a little bit

1842
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 1: of an idea. But to piggyback off that last point,

1843
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 1: what was that feeling like running down from the stands

1844
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 1: down through the tunnel that Mercedes been Stadium there in

1845
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 1: Atlanta once you had just found out Jewels one MVP

1846
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 1: and you're running out on it like I've even ran

1847
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 1: into Urban I did.

1848
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 2: I ran into Urban Meyer, I was running down. I

1849
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 2: think I was hobbling. I did that. I might hip

1850
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 2: done after that. Yeah, I think my hip was messed up.

1851
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 2: I couldn't barely walk, let alone run. And we were

1852
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 2: running down and I'm I was always an Urban Meyer fan.

1853
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 2: I really liked him when he was at Bowling Green

1854
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 2: because we were in the Mac and that kind of

1855
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 2: you know, you recruit me and no, I get it.

1856
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 2: I get it by the ultimate Mac Daddy.

1857
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 5: He just asked me to come. He asked me to

1858
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 5: come talk to the team. I go, why would I

1859
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 5: come talk to your Ohio State team? I didn't go

1860
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 5: to Ohio State.

1861
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:31,799
Speaker 2: We you had five racks of Ohio State, one little

1862
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 2: spot for Cleveland, and there was one jersey over there

1863
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,759
Speaker 2: at Kent State. I always I remember that going to Cleveland.

1864
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 2: When when you were playing at Kent, when you walk

1865
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,959
Speaker 2: into a store to see memorabiliy of the Cincinnati Bengals

1866
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,680
Speaker 2: or the Cleveland Browns, you couldn't find it. There was

1867
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 2: one little spot. The whole shelves were all full of

1868
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 2: Ohio State everything. Ohio State. Yeah, I never see It's

1869
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 2: like in Rewid City, it's like forty nine ers everywhere,

1870
01:34:58,800 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 2: you know, h.

1871
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 4: We're prown area.

1872
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1873
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1874
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 5: He had Cayle Stanford, which, yeah, you go down to

1875
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:06,759
Speaker 5: the south, you go to Ohio, you go to Michigan.

1876
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they love it. I was like Ohio State. So

1877
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 2: when down in the balls in the state, I'm getting

1878
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:19,280
Speaker 2: on the field. Yeah, we're drive by. I go Urban, Yeah,

1879
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 2: it's driving. I was running down and uh, I go

1880
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 2: Urban Meyer, how you doing. I'm Eleman's dad, And he goes, oh,

1881
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 2: great player. You know we shook hands. That's the only

1882
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:29,640
Speaker 2: way you can get in with these guys. If you

1883
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 2: if I popped you know Jules's name, and then they're

1884
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 2: always cool. I'll tell you it's not. It wasn't unexpected.

1885
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 2: Jules has always you know, and I know I'm his dad,

1886
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 2: and I've been heckling you about all this stuff. But

1887
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:49,680
Speaker 2: the truth is he always seemed to come through in

1888
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 2: the biggest moments, in the biggest games. He's just that's

1889
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 2: that's just the way it was.

1890
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:58,760
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, oh man, I love it. And

1891
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 1: one last leftover question and that we didn't get to.

1892
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 1: We touched on one of the great frankisms at the

1893
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:07,200
Speaker 1: beginning of the show. When you're green, you grow, when

1894
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 1: you're ripe, you're right. Are there any other great frankisms

1895
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:11,560
Speaker 1: that come to mind that well.

1896
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,799
Speaker 2: You know, I'm guilty. That was I'm guilty of twenty

1897
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 2: seven years ago when Jewels was playing when he was

1898
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 2: a little feller, I would always try to be a

1899
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 2: step ahead of him. So I would I would, you know,

1900
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 2: I would study isms, I would look for something to say.

1901
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 2: I always had to have something ready because Jewels was

1902
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 2: kind of a rascal, and so I always had to

1903
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 2: be an inch ahead of him. And I'll tell you

1904
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 2: one of I always hated this. We almost had a

1905
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 2: shot to go to the bowl game at Kent, and

1906
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 2: Coach Martin let Jewels come home. We had a two

1907
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,799
Speaker 2: week break before the bowl game or a four week break, yeah,

1908
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 2: and Jewels. Coach let Jewles come home for a week,

1909
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 2: you know, because they had this great season. Winning six

1910
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 2: games at Kent was like unbelievable, right, and so and

1911
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 2: when he came home, him and Kurt were downstairs, you know,

1912
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:07,719
Speaker 2: and there was a lot you know, like I said earlier,

1913
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 2: nothing good happens after twelve. Well, you know, it's my boy,

1914
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 2: And I said, Jewels, you do realize that drinking on

1915
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 2: Thursdays causes flubbed snaps on Saturdays. So remember that one, Jewels. Yeah,

1916
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 2: So I like that one. I always had to come

1917
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 2: up with little isms, uh. And the reason was is

1918
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 2: to try to keep my boy, try to be ahead

1919
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:39,679
Speaker 2: of them jewels. Do you have a favorite one?

1920
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:45,639
Speaker 5: We were like real young, like ten, I just serve

1921
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 5: my dad saying just adapt or die.

1922
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 2: Overcome or die. What's the what's the bird cage? Oh,

1923
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:00,720
Speaker 2: yesterday's news is in the bottom of bird cage. What

1924
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 2: do you do with it? You throw it away?

1925
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 4: Now you put it on the bottom of a bird cage.

1926
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 4: So a good ship on?

1927
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you think that's good. That was yesterday old newspaper.

1928
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 5: You put on the bottom of the bird cage and

1929
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 5: get shipped on.

1930
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt Jack.

1931
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 4: We missed anything.

1932
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 1: We were pretty darn good. Uh had to get those in.

1933
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: Shout out to Oak.

1934
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 5: Grove, Oh Cliff Grove, Oh Cliff.

1935
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:30,759
Speaker 1: Oh Cliff, Texas, home of our former guest Kenyan Martin.

1936
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 1: Just had to give him a little shout out there,

1937
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 1: big football guy to big football guy. Big football A

1938
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 1: lot of in this episode. You got me confused with that,

1939
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: but yeah, great episode. It was really really, really darn

1940
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 1: cool to finally get I think the name's.

1941
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 5: Got to be I think it's got to be has

1942
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:48,640
Speaker 5: to do with Redwood City. Yeah, it's got to be

1943
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 5: simply the best game or something else that that was

1944
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 5: our song. Yeah, my dad used to throw that on

1945
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 5: after wins. Tina Turney simply the best.

1946
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the Champions. Whenever we won the champion,

1947
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 2: we play the Queens song. We are the Champions. Simply

1948
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 2: the best game.

1949
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 8: I love that, not this one's this one.

1950
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 2: No, no, that has not to do with me. These

1951
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 2: guys did it all. It was. It was awesome.

1952
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:21,480
Speaker 5: The simply the best game, the simply.

1953
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 8: The best game, simply the best game. Simply the simply

1954
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 8: the best. Yeah, take the dog out of there.

1955
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 5: Okay, so we got the new scoring system. We let

1956
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 5: the guests give their scores. Let's score the game. Is

1957
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 5: this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it

1958
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 5: pops zero to ten decimals, okay, zero being terrible, ten

1959
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 5: being perfect.

1960
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:50,599
Speaker 2: I'll go seven to five.

1961
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 4: What are the stakes of this game?

1962
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, the steaks. The stakes of this game were high.

1963
01:39:57,760 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 2: You know. The stakes in the game was the super Bowl.

1964
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:00,760
Speaker 2: I mean I I don't know if you can get

1965
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 2: much higher than that. So I gotta go at ten,

1966
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 2: you know, I mean right, I mean, well, you lose,

1967
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 2: you go home, you win, you go to the super Bowl.

1968
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 2: It's a NFCFC Championship game ten. Yeah, it's not the

1969
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 2: super Bowl. It's not the super Bowl, but for us

1970
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 2: it was. Okay, Joels, you still have to score too.

1971
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 5: For me, I gotta give it a nine flat nine

1972
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 5: flat star power Dad, zero to ten.

1973
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 2: Well, we got one NFL player in there. Yeah, you know,

1974
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 2: so I'll go star power.

1975
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 8: You know, we'll go seven to five higher than hockey games, okay,

1976
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 8: professional hockey games, all right.

1977
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 2: Jeels, you gotta do star star power.

1978
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's probably like a three, Dad too, I'm only

1979
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:50,760
Speaker 5: worth two points, Okay, to give me a two.

1980
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right on that.

1981
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 5: A lot of Rover Seed legends. But I mean we've

1982
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 5: had Super Bowls. You want too, we had ten Hall

1983
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 5: of famers on a field, Pro Bowl, Pro Bowl gameplay Dad.

1984
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 4: Zero to ten.

1985
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 2: I'll go seven to five, seven five.

1986
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a defensive battle, but there was good interceptions,

1987
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 5: good special teams, you know, doink kick the doink?

1988
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, the single dink, the single the single doink game.

1989
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 2: I'll go.

1990
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 5: Seven point three. The name of the game simply the best.

1991
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 2: That's oh so I have to Yeah, I'll go that's

1992
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 2: a great name. Simply the best game, right, simply the

1993
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 2: best game. I'll go seven to five. I'll go seven,

1994
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 2: five to two.

1995
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 4: Dead five point seven. That's still respectable winner game.

1996
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 2: What Pop Warner game, We're respectable, respectable.

1997
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 1: About five point seven? That puts us just ahead of

1998
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:52,639
Speaker 1: the twenty fourteen TBT final team Barstool versus the Notre

1999
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:53,440
Speaker 1: Dame alums.

2000
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 2: That is it? Okay, that's where we should be. Yeah,

2001
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:57,719
Speaker 2: and then right and then.

2002
01:41:57,640 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 1: Never would get bumped down.

2003
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty nine things with.

2004
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 8: The twenty fourteen and I'll do this game two Giants

2005
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 8: versus Nationals.

2006
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 2: That feels right. That feels right, car Stool, I mean Systems,

2007
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 2: big Belly players.

2008
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:13,719
Speaker 1: Big Cat and star Fish.

2009
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:14,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

2010
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 4: We missed anything, Pops.

2011
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did miss one thing. Do you remember when

2012
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 2: we when we went out and practiced after the Naperville game,

2013
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 2: We went out practiced in the parking lot. We did

2014
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:28,639
Speaker 2: a walk through in the parking lot for like three hours,

2015
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 2: well Disney Hotel. I was like, we're gonna do this

2016
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 2: over and over again. I think I got I got

2017
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 2: may have got something on the Texas team and I

2018
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 2: was out there, We're trying to get you guys up

2019
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 2: to par.

2020
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 5: What's his name, probably gave you the Commission probably gave

2021
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 5: you some intel.

2022
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably got some intel.

2023
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 5: You want to plug anything, podcast, plug anything?

2024
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 2: Pops. No, I think we've been pluging.

2025
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 4: Wait, how's retirement going? You were tired?

2026
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, not really. I don't really know what

2027
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,639
Speaker 2: you keep me so, you know, your businesses keep me busy.

2028
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 2: I appreciate you let me work with you and uh

2029
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:10,839
Speaker 2: no serious, you know, but closing a one, you know, put.

2030
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:13,720
Speaker 5: That shirt down, that little little belly showing what they

2031
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 5: call it dick dude.

2032
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:23,600
Speaker 2: Who Okay, that's not a bad word. That's a richer due. No,

2033
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 2: you know, I you know, it's funny. It's been in

2034
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 2: my my reminders. Saint Jude's and I really had nothing

2035
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 2: to do with the rich Eisend thing. It really had

2036
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 2: to do with those commercials and you know Marlo Thomas

2037
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 2: and her dad, it would you know, that's just stuck

2038
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 2: in my you know head when you're our age. But

2039
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 2: so I think we've plugged that pretty good. We how

2040
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 2: much money did we make them?

2041
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:55,160
Speaker 1: We made the Saint Jude Children's Hospital eleven Hunt's go.

2042
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 5: Good job, guys, just wear all right, all right, we're

2043
01:43:59,320 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 5: done with the show.

2044
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 2: Dad.

2045
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 4: But we usually don't do this.

2046
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 5: We usually don't keep you know, the guests on when

2047
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 5: we do post segment shows. But since your pops and

2048
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 5: you're staying at the house, yeah, I mean they can't

2049
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 5: kick you out. Okay, gotcha, So, uh, why don't you

2050
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 5: stick around. We're gonna hit the hotline together. Okay, this

2051
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:20,760
Speaker 5: is fans that call in, and remember fans call the

2052
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 5: number four two four two nine one two two nine zero.

2053
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 5: Let's get into it.

2054
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:32,440
Speaker 9: Hey, Julian, a while ago on the Games with Name podcast,

2055
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:38,759
Speaker 9: you said for people to leave questions and things for Frank,

2056
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:45,080
Speaker 9: but I'd like to leave something for both your father

2057
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:48,759
Speaker 9: and your mother. I would like to thank them both

2058
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:52,920
Speaker 9: for raising the family that they did, because not only

2059
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 9: did they change one life, but they changed many.

2060
01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 11: So please thank them both for me.

2061
01:44:58,640 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 1: Thanks.

2062
01:44:59,160 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 5: Bye?

2063
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 2: That is that a question?

2064
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 7: Oh?

2065
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 2: We thank you? That was awful. Nice. We thank you you.

2066
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 2: Hope we do. I can't talk either. I hope we've

2067
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:10,680
Speaker 2: done well for you.

2068
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 7: Hi, this is Sniky.

2069
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:14,760
Speaker 11: My question is for when you have Frank on.

2070
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 9: I was just wondering either what moment or what part

2071
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 9: of Julian's career is that's most proud of great episodes lately.

2072
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:23,559
Speaker 11: Look forward to the next week.

2073
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:24,520
Speaker 6: Thanks guys.

2074
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 2: You know it's uh, it's a funny thing when your

2075
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 2: child becomes a professional athlete. You have moment after after

2076
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:36,760
Speaker 2: a moment. I don't mean to say it, but it's

2077
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 2: a repeatable statement to say. I mean, there's just been

2078
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 2: so many.

2079
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:44,719
Speaker 4: One moment that makes you proud that one moment.

2080
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 2: Save the question, I would say, no, no, I'll be

2081
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 2: honest with you. I would say his first game against

2082
01:45:56,520 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles, when he ran his touchdown back and

2083
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:05,599
Speaker 2: the punt return the Weally Pip game, I'll tear up, so.

2084
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 5: You baby cry, So there you go.

2085
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 10: You know, no, this message is Frank.

2086
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 11: Back in twenty and twelve, when Julian did the speaker

2087
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 11: series at the Patriots Hall of Fame, that was the

2088
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 11: very first time I heard when you're green, you grow.

2089
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 9: And when you ripe, you're hot. And so I just

2090
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:40,759
Speaker 9: want to thank you for that.

2091
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:44,640
Speaker 2: Quote by whose quote was that you're very welcome. That

2092
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:48,719
Speaker 2: quote was given to me by one of our assistant coaches,

2093
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:52,959
Speaker 2: Carl Austin. Carl, shout out to you, buddy, I appreciate

2094
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 2: Actually he was the head coach and then I took

2095
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 2: the team after Carl did coach carlost coach Carl Austin

2096
01:46:59,240 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 2: a great guy.

2097
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:03,080
Speaker 5: He was like a general manager at a bunch of McDonald's. Yeah,

2098
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 5: I'd roll up there and like.

2099
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 2: You know, is Carl there?

2100
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:09,560
Speaker 5: You always giving me some burger Bucks?

2101
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:10,719
Speaker 1: Shout out to crazy Carl.

2102
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:15,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's Shane from New York, originally from New Hampshire,

2103
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 7: big Patriots fan.

2104
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 2: Just wanted to call and ask.

2105
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:22,720
Speaker 7: Frank what the hardest part and the easiest part was

2106
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 7: of raising an elite athlete, obviously specifically doing thank you.

2107
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 2: The hardest part, the hardest part, you know there, it

2108
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 2: was just trying to keep his mind focused. But he

2109
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 2: with that said, he always had his mind focused. Julian

2110
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 2: knew what he wanted to be, So they're really just

2111
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:47,760
Speaker 2: keeping him on the straight and narrow was really the

2112
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 2: hardest thing. Keeping his grades up. She's I had three

2113
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:55,599
Speaker 2: point five. Yeah, I mean that, it really was. That's

2114
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 2: the hardest thing.

2115
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:59,680
Speaker 5: No, Yeah, like watching your son get hit, or like

2116
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,960
Speaker 5: watching me go through a c L surgery or watching

2117
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:06,840
Speaker 5: me having a concussion. It's trying to keep me on

2118
01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:07,760
Speaker 5: the straight and arrow.

2119
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 2: Well, it.

2120
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 4: In your mind.

2121
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 2: I took it more as getting there, not being.

2122
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 5: There, Well, just in general, what's the question?

2123
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:19,800
Speaker 2: Well, all those things were horrible. That was the the

2124
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 2: you know, any injuries. I didn't want to bring that up. Okay,

2125
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to discourage things. Injuries are the worst.

2126
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 10: They're horrible.

2127
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 2: And what's the best winning? Anytime you win, it's awesome.

2128
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:38,679
Speaker 6: Let's up, Frank Andewles. So we heard the story about

2129
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 6: Julie and charging the mound before a game. How did

2130
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 6: that leave you doing?

2131
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:44,559
Speaker 2: Frank?

2132
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 6: What were the emotions like? Yeah, how did you deal

2133
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 6: with you're seeing being a little hot headed charging the

2134
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:51,679
Speaker 6: mound on you?

2135
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:58,839
Speaker 2: I felt horrible because he were we were we were

2136
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 2: we were bantering back and forth and I threw the

2137
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 2: ball inside where it was. We were in the Babe

2138
01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:07,759
Speaker 2: Ruth just before a game. We were going that batting

2139
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 2: practice and he had braces on. He says, I hit him.

2140
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 2: I didn't hit him. He's he's embellishing. So when he

2141
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 2: when I threw the ball on the inside of the

2142
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 2: plate and he was dropping his shoulder, he was he

2143
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 2: was slapping it. He was, you know, being a rascal.

2144
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 2: And so we got into some bannering and he finally

2145
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 2: charged him out and I grabbed his arms and he

2146
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 2: was brocking his head back and forth, and he bid

2147
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:37,679
Speaker 2: himself with those braces and blood was all over his Yeah,

2148
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 2: blood was all over his shirt. So I did not

2149
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:43,919
Speaker 2: And when he went to the I just felt horrible.

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Speaker 2: But I'll be honest, that's what we did. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the bad news Utleman's that's that's everybody. I wasn't hiding

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Speaker 2: from it. People would drive by where we would go,

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Speaker 2: look for fields to practice, and uh, that's just what

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Speaker 2: we did. What they look at it and they'd call me, hey, Frank,

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Speaker 2: you're throwing that ball. Awful heart of that little guy.

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Speaker 2: And I'd say, yeah, I know, but that's probably why

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Speaker 2: I couldn't hit a curveball. I was in too much heat.

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Speaker 2: But so Frank.

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Speaker 8: So during this quote unquote banter that led to a

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Speaker 8: charging of the mountain incident, how much money do would

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Speaker 8: you have to have donated to Saint Jude's.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I was pretty bad. Well, we were all

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Speaker 2: kind of bad, all the coaches out there at that time.

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Speaker 2: It was kind of like kind of like, okay, but

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Speaker 2: I would try to do it. You really try to

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Speaker 2: do it in a huddle when the guys because the

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Speaker 2: kids liked it, but you couldn't do it really as

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Speaker 2: being angry. You had to do it more of a

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Speaker 2: joke angry, you know what I mean, Like you little rascals,

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Speaker 2: but you wouldn't use that word and say little fuckers

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Speaker 2: ding ding ding ding dnder twelve. Times have changed. Times

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Speaker 2: have changed. But I'll be honest with you. I promise

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Speaker 2: you anybody out there that is competing at the higher

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Speaker 2: levels at youth sports, I promise you they're saying the

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Speaker 2: same thing. Don't be that naive.

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Speaker 9: Hi.

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Speaker 11: I was so happy to see on the Games with

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Speaker 11: Named storyline that Frank is going to be making a debut.

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Speaker 12: All this time.

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Speaker 9: Ever since you guys started this, I always wanted to

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Speaker 9: ask him if he were to pick his favorite game

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Speaker 9: out of Julian's career, the best game, which one.

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Speaker 1: Would it be?

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Speaker 5: He's the best thanks by favorite game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go the Seattle super Bowl. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: was the first one in and that was kind of

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Speaker 2: like Jules's breakthrough game for me. There was a couple

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Speaker 2: of games before that, but that was a touchdown pass

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Speaker 2: catch in the Super Bowl was big, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we we all knew what we signed up for and

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Speaker 2: we knew what Jules had to do and Jewels knew

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Speaker 2: what he had to do. And that catch with Cam

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Speaker 2: Chancellor over the middle of the third and fourteen, that

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Speaker 2: was that's my favorite catch and that's my favorite game.

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Speaker 2: Well you go, you know you were that that's the fence.

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Speaker 5: Well that was that was fun. What a game, what

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Speaker 5: an experience. Thanks again to my dad, Francis Joseph Edelman.

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