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Let's speak for yourself. 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas and I have joined in 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: the room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: Greg Rosen thought, what is a boys? Hey handon? Happy 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: Sunday Night, Happy Sunday night. Week twelves here Thanksgiving? You 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: know what they say? Dog football season does not start 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: until left to Thanksgiving started. Why does West get a 17 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: prescripted line to start every show? And then the rest 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: of us are left searching for something to say. Well, 19 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: West doesn't need to do that prep because he's got 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: the locked in low That's what I'm saying catch phrase. 21 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: You guys got to come up with either a a 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: catchphrase or a little bit of pre show prep and 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: think what do I want to talk about right off 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: the top? If anything? I mean, I can lose that 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: line after like sevenisode. I don't think anyone is asking 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: for that. I just find the entire universe with collapse 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: in to itself. If you stop saying how I am? 28 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: I think you did a nice job setting And it's 29 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: this part of the accent. It's the whole thing. It's 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: the type Island accent. We got it, so Greg, Yeah, 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: that's one of those. It's like one of the two. Uh, 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: come with the catch phrase or just you know, before 33 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: the show, think what can I do? What can I add? 34 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: Like China trying to I think this podcast that is 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: at its best when you live in the moment, you 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: just see where it takes you. You You never even know. 37 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: It's always just a nice blank slate right there. All right, 38 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: ROSA a lot of games to get to. This will 39 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: be a jam packed episode of the Around the NFL 40 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: podcast because we will hit the Thanksgiving shows near the 41 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: bottom of the episodes, so stay tuned for that. UH 42 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: and we will dig into all the UH Sunday action, 43 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: including Sunday Night football with the Packers and the Vikings. 44 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: A lot at stake there, obviously, but let's start with 45 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: the games that we've played earlier today, Oh in a 46 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 1: hum dinga in Charlotte from thirty yards out for the win, 47 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: the tap, the kick is up, the kick hits through 48 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: the Sahawks when hit Carolina Sebasti Jannetkowski from thirty yards 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: out on the last play of the game, and the 50 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: Seahawks have done what they need to do. Yes, they did, 51 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: Steve rival k I r O with the call Russell 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: Wilson through thirty nine yards. Two scores and seas still 53 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: around after all these years that thirty one yard or 54 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: as time expired. Uh, to lift Seattle to a thirty 55 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: to twenty seven win over the Carolina Panthers. Uh. Like 56 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: I said in Charlotte, come from behind win for the Seahawks. 57 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: Three straight losses for Carolina and Seattle is alive and 58 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: well in the NFC playoff picture West. Another gutsy win 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: for a Seahawks team with serious mojo. Some of this 60 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: is randomness, but credit them for making plays in the 61 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: red zone. The Panthers should have been ahead by double 62 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: digits in the fourth quarter. They were not because the 63 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: Seahawks stopped them in the red zone, particularly in short 64 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: yardage plays. Brandley McDougall had a great interception in the 65 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: end zone. Um, but if Graham Gano doesn't miss a 66 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: fifty two yard or who knows how this game ends. 67 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: The Panthers had fourner and seventy eight yards of offense, 68 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: which was most Seahawks gave up all year long. And 69 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: for the second straight week, Seahawks win a game in 70 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: which the other team just failed to capitalize. I could 71 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: not agree more with us about how the beginning of 72 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: this game went. Uh. The Panthers marching up and down 73 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: the field really for most of this game against Seattle. 74 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: They get stuffed on near the goal line. On a 75 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: fourth and three carrier from Newton, I thought he got 76 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: the first down west, they did not give the call, 77 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: and upon challenge that did not go to the Panther's 78 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: way either. They went down the field again and got 79 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: stuffed on a McCaffrey run. Will get to McCaffrey in 80 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: a second. So when instead of being up fourteen six 81 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: or having a two score lead, they never were able 82 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: to get any distance well, and the Seahawks defense did 83 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: not play particularly well, but the offense made the big 84 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: place Russell Wilson fourth and three to David Moore, who 85 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: made a one handed catch in the end zone. Uh 86 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: corn Elder was the cornerback on the play who never 87 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: even looked looked back on the play around. Sounds like 88 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: an ancient farmer. He's a three thousand year old farmer 89 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: who was also the bass player in pavements. And then 90 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: Wilson climbed the pocket on that last drive to hit 91 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett wide open on a coverage bust in the 92 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: red zone and set up the game winner. But um, 93 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: the Seahawks made the plays with the game on the line, 94 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: given credit when I was lock it and really freestyling 95 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: seeing something when the play breaks down, and Russell Wilson 96 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: gave Locket credit and they're they're among the best in 97 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: the league right now at doing that. Russell Wilson is 98 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: certainly at quarterback. And this is the second straight week 99 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: where you start out run run, and Chris Carson they're 100 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: running back set after the game like they were calling 101 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 1: out some of our plays in the first half thinking 102 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: they were a little too predictable. And then you're counting 103 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: on your quarterback to kind of save you and make 104 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: plays on his own. But they have one of the 105 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: only guys who can actually make that game plan work 106 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: beyond today's game. That's a tough that's a tough loss 107 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: for the old zeuser in the old lock up challenge. 108 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: I thought they were going to come through on this. 109 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: Go ahead Mark, Well, no, but I think you believed 110 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: in the Panthers, and you know it's weird, and I 111 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: now it's sounding like a broken record. I still do. 112 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: I think they win this game eight eight out of ten, 113 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: and I think they've hit a really a lull in 114 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: their season, and once you get to three games you 115 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: start to mess with screwing up your whole season. But yeah, 116 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: I still think there's a team that could be around 117 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: and make noise in January. But this is this is 118 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: an ugly loss. In the last three weeks. I've been 119 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: pretty they can be around because they allow enough teams 120 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: into the playoffs to you know, some of them are 121 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: not the equal of others. But if you want to 122 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: believe in this Seattle and backing in the playoffs, I mean, well, 123 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: they are backing in right now. I'm saying, now they're 124 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: backing they can get out of this to me, they're 125 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: the opposite of Seattle. You you get you respond to 126 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: getting nipped by the Rams by five points by beating 127 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: the Packers, the much ballly Hood Packers knocking off the 128 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: much ballly Hood Panthers, and now you have four home 129 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: games and you're remaining five. You play the Niners twice, 130 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: you play the Cardinals to close the season, and you've 131 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: got a tough one against the Chiefs, but they play 132 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: the Vikings to a team they can beat. Compare that 133 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: to the Panthers, who finish with two out of three 134 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: against the powerhouse Saints, and they they've just they have 135 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: some mojo. Whether they're can be quantified or not, they've 136 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: they've become that team that you can't figure out how 137 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: they won the game at the end of the at 138 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: the end of the games, like how did we lose 139 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: that game to Seattle. But after a while, that's almost 140 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: becoming a repeatable skill for them, And it's strange that there. 141 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that's repeatable. I think it's completely random. 142 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: I think it's random, but I think if that's what happened, sir, 143 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: But they then they went and took advantage of it. 144 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: They also had that touchdown from David Moore, who was like, 145 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: like when they fell down in this game, they came back. 146 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: They've they've found a way to stick in games that 147 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: they really had no business winning. Uh. Two more Panthers 148 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: points the Graham Gano, who has been a really great kicker. 149 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: H that was a fifty two yard or so. It's 150 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: not like he shank like a thirty six yard or 151 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: it was a long kick. But that's a guy that 152 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: you you come to depend on, and you knew they 153 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: were in deep trouble as soon as you missed it, 154 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: and they were. And we cannot forget Christian McCaffrey in 155 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: this game. It's getting lost obviously because uh, Seattle pulled 156 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: it out, but franchise record two thirty nine yards from scrimmage. 157 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: He went for one and a touchdown on the ground 158 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: and eleven catches for one fourteen in the air with 159 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: another touchdown. That you won't get much more productive days 160 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: in the league than that. One thing about defense. Carolina's 161 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: defense needs to operate more soundly if they want any 162 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: chance of doing anything. Seattle scores on its final five 163 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: drives with no drive less than seven plays, one of 164 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: them fourteen. I mean that's that's not by chance. That's 165 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: not just magic happening. We've sited their front seven getting older. 166 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: But it's also Eric Washington in his first year as 167 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. This is not a good first year for him. 168 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: It's not a good debut. They really regressed on defense. 169 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: Am I looking at this right? There's there's six fumbos 170 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: in this game, and the Panthers picked up all six. 171 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean there there's a lot going on. Uh And 172 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: one one more note, I driving into work right as 173 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: games were kicking off. I've caught this a couple of 174 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: times now. The Panthers radio network, mcmixon on the call, 175 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: he does a bit of a brief monologue before immediately 176 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: before kickoff, and it's clear a lot of working too him. 177 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: I heard one involving the Giants game that was pretty wild. 178 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: Here's the one that that started today's game. Just to 179 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: give you a little flavor of the mixing effect. After 180 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: the win over Tampa Bay on November the fourth, the 181 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: six and two Carolina Panthers went viral dripping with dripped 182 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: the thumbs up emoji's tore it in. But then, like 183 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: a millennial brain addicted to Facebook, we got a little distracted, 184 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: controlled by the Steelers and then catfished by the Lions. 185 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: The Panthers are now not accepting any more friend request. Instead, 186 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: Carolina is cutting the cord, unplugging and focusing on the fundamentals. 187 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: The semester is flying by, and if the Panthers don't 188 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: get serious, buckle down, our devices will be taken away 189 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: social media. That's what I'm talking about. And then they 190 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: kick off. That's he's not at all. I'm all in, hey, 191 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: old uncle at the at the Thanksgiving table, he said, 192 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: dripping went Millennials set in the end zone, intercepted by 193 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: Shelby Harris, the defensive lineman with the play of the game. Yeah, 194 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: it was Dave Logan ko A with the call nose tackle. 195 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: Shelby Harris picked up Big Ben's two yard attempt. Uh. 196 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: He was targeting Antonio Brown. But who knows what was 197 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: going on with Ross's Brothelisberger on that throw in the 198 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: end zone one oh three to play. Uh. It effectively 199 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: ended the game, locked up seventeen win for the Broncos 200 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: over the Steelers in Mile High. It's a big loss 201 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: of the Steelers, the lost ground in the race for 202 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: a buy in the a f C and a huge 203 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: win for the Broncos, who got their Play of the 204 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: Year greg from an unlikely source. This game had everything 205 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: you mentioned in the game winning interception by a nose tackle. 206 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: That's got to be the first time that's ever happened, 207 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: ever happened before in NFL history. But before that, we 208 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: had a field goal blocked by Justin Simmons, which he 209 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: has a habit to do, and so I guess it's 210 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: not that weird. A gay half ending fake field goal 211 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: touchdown attempt that went to Alejandro Villa in a WAVA 212 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: give him another Navy Federal Credit Union comer. So after 213 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: that touchdown, I mean, I've never seen that. You had 214 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: a ninety seven yard touchdown throw to Juju Smith Schuster, 215 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: a beautiful play by Ben Roethlisberger. I mean, everything was 216 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: going on in this game. You had a fake a 217 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: fumble at the half yard line that went out the 218 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: end zone, the worst rule in football that favored the 219 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: Broncos in that situation because Xavier Grimble couldn't score. I mean, 220 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: this is what happens when the Steelers turned the ball 221 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: over four times and the Broncos don't at all that 222 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: the team that's getting pushed around a little bit in 223 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: the game, found a way to win. I mean, what 224 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: do you make of a game like that? I don't know. 225 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: It's another example of Pittsburgh, you know, with Dan and 226 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: I did a sky segment today asking which team we 227 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: trust more, the Chargers of Steelers, and I confidently said 228 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: that I'm starting to trust the Steelers because of what 229 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: they pulled off last week when they should have lost 230 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville and turned it around, and then twenty minutes 231 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: later you get this delivered on the platfort. I don't 232 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: think that. I don't think this is a disgraceful loss 233 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: by any stretch. Doesn't accept you've given up. Now you've 234 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: thrust the Patriots back into the by scenario that is 235 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: that's on my radar too. And this is for Pittsburgh. 236 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: And now, well, the Steelers still have the Patriots, the Chargers, 237 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: and the Saints left on the schedule. But they had 238 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: one six straight games. This is not an easy place 239 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: to be the way that they lost it. Mill and 240 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: millions of others that don't want to see the Patriots 241 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: gonna buy for a ninth straight year the idea of 242 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: the Chargers. Now we'll go into Pittsburgh and lose next week, 243 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: so they'll essentially cancel each other out and New England 244 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: will take care of their business, which is you know 245 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: all and then that's it. That's it. Well, the Steers 246 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: and Patriots play each other, so the Steelers, Yeah, the Steelers. 247 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: All you gotta do is win at home, and you 248 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: can you can control that that situation. The Patriots have 249 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: some tough games left too. But for the Broncos to 250 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: win this game to end a six game winning streak 251 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: a week after you ended another six game winning streak 252 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: by the Chargers, which came a game after you were 253 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: a field goal miss away from beating the Texans to 254 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: aur on a five game winning streak. This team, even 255 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: though they've been outplayed the last two weeks, I think 256 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: they've been better than their record has shown for much 257 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: of the season. They also had two games against the 258 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: Chiefs and one against the Rams there five and six. 259 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: They're only one game out of the wild card. They 260 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: only play one team with a winning record the rest 261 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: of the way, and and you can absolutely see a 262 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: road to them having a relevant Week seventeen possibility to 263 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: get into the play against the Chargers, and they they 264 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: are your classic Berserker team where suddenly you don't want 265 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: to deal with Denver, and you definitely don't want to 266 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: deal with them on the road because they what they've 267 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: done the last two weeks. The only scary situation for 268 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: Broncos fans is you get a little frisky, you go 269 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: eight and eight, maybe you even do something a little 270 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: more than that, and you convince yourselves to keep fans 271 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: Joseph around for another year. Where I feel like fans 272 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: Joseph coaching decisions have cost this team at least two 273 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: games this year, if not more. That's that's fair, but 274 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: at least at least it's if you're at Broncos fan, 275 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: you you got this rookie class, which is just awesome. 276 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay third fourteen carries a hundred and ten yards. 277 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: He's so fun to watch it. He was such a 278 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: key in this game. And James Conner barely got the 279 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: ball thirteen carries to only to fifty six throws for 280 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, and Connor had a killer fumble, one of 281 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: many killer mistakes in this game by the Steelers, But 282 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: you had to I still kind of like Philip Lindsay 283 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: maybe as offensive rookie of the Year. I have not 284 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: given that award to say Kwan Barkley. I don't care 285 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: what the numbers are when you watch him, He's just 286 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: such an impactful player. Ben Roethlisberg only threw one touchdown 287 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: pass uh in this game one of the steel Did 288 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: you mention the fake field goal? I did? Yeah, okay, yeah, 289 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: just a wild game. But he was one of fifty 290 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: and sixty. He made a lot of really good plays 291 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: in this game. I feel like and and like you said, 292 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: the ninety seven yard touched on was a throw out 293 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: of the back of the end zone with a hand 294 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: in his face and the defensive line coming down on him. 295 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not tracking this too closely, but 296 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: I feel like he's on pace to throw for about 297 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: seventy four thousand yards this year. I feel like it 298 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: throws for four under at sixty two yards up the week. 299 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: It's crazy. All right, let's move on from thirty two 300 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: yards away, snap bull down, kick is up, It's got 301 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: the distance, it's gone, it's done. The cult tip won it. 302 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: The Coulttell wan it, Matt Taylor, w F and I 303 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: with the call. Andrew Luck through three touchdown passes out 304 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: of Vinetieri knocked through that thirty two yard or as 305 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: clock ran out and the Colts beat the Dolphins. It 306 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: is five straight wins for the team of West tl Uh. 307 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: Speaking of West Hey Wes, Andrew Luck faced a ten 308 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: point fourth quarter deficit in this one. He don't care. 309 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: This was one of those games where playoff teams and 310 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: the Colts hope to be one half the five in 311 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: a way to win when the Brakes don't go their 312 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: way and they've gotten outplayed, and the Dolphins made more 313 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,479 Speaker 1: big plays in the game, the Colts made more mistakes, 314 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: and then the end of the game, you saw Adam 315 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: Gaze elect to run the ball in third and ten 316 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: with left pump the ball back to Andrew Luck in 317 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: a tie game. And Luck, who we used to say 318 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: when he was early in his career his pocket movement 319 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: is the eighth wonder of the world. And we saw 320 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: that on a miraculous play where he's he ducked under 321 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: a sack and hit Chester Rogers, who after the game, 322 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: Frank Reich says wasn't even in the progressions at all. 323 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: It was just all Andrew Luck finding him and that 324 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: set up the game winner. Um On a day where 325 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: the Dolphins really played their hearts out. They really did, 326 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: and Miami. We said downstairs that the culture doing God's work, 327 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: because unless you're a Dolphins fan, this Miami team is 328 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: not necessarily a team you want hanging around and playing 329 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: a January playoff game because there's not a lot of 330 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: juice around the Dolphins. But you have to give him credit. 331 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: They really did find a way to hang around in 332 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: this game, control of the game, but they couldn't close it. 333 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: And that Greg, I think you kind of a different 334 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: take on this. But the Adam Gays decision third and 335 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: ten deep in his own end, I get that. But 336 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: when you run the ball, you want to give up 337 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: play when you're five and five and you're fighting for 338 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: a playoff spot and you know, damn well on the 339 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: road kicking it back to Andrew Luck who's gonna get 340 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: it around midfield, that you're probably dead. What is that? 341 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: What message does that send team you're the front office 342 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: to the fans. That would drive me crazy, And I 343 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: don't think it helps Adam Gaze come black Monday. I 344 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: couldn't agree with you more. I mean, that play said 345 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: so much to me about what they think of their 346 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: passing game. In Ryan Tannehill. I mean, I know he 347 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: isn't Tom Brady, but he's yards in this game. It's 348 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: not like he was bad in this game, right west 349 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: And and it's just it's just setting a message you 350 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: don't you would, you don't trust your quarterback at all. 351 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: And it's not feeling the game because at that point 352 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: of the game, the Dolphins defense was not getting stops. 353 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: They had just given up to orange drives and the 354 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: Colts did it by running two which is so different 355 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: than old Colts teams that that the Colts came back 356 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: in this game in the fourth quarter on one of 357 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: those drives, basically by running the whole time, which which 358 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: is pretty amazing. They don't have a passing game who 359 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. His numbers weren't that bad, but seventy five 360 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: yards and that came on a fluke play to Laurente 361 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: Carew where you want to jump ball and then just 362 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: ran to the end zone after that. And that's what 363 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: the Dolphins offense has been all year, these fluke big plays, 364 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: and credit them for for actually going through with them 365 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: and making them, but they're not you can't rely on 366 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: them from week to week. I mean, they were banged 367 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: up at wide receiver today to start. Absolutely, Yeah, they're 368 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: very big, they're very banged up. They talked about Tannehill 369 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: throwing with significant pain and and he's better that he's 370 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: certainly better than Osweiler. But they say they're not running 371 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: a full offense with banged up receivers and Tannehill playing 372 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: in pain. But that's stead though. You you have you 373 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: have to feel like you're playing with house money when 374 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: you've got to Andrew Luck picks by Vian Howard. So 375 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: to your point, to punt the ball, you're we're in 376 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: a league now where you already gave up the ten 377 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: point lead in the fourth quarter. Right, We're in a 378 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: league where you you go for it, you take chances, 379 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: you you you risk everything. You don't give the ball 380 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: back to Andrew Luck with three plus minutes when they've 381 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: scored on the previous two marches. To me, it's just 382 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: we're all sitting there watching it, and it's like, goodbye, Dolphins, 383 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: because you don't deserve to be in this derby if 384 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: you cannot make the decisions that winning teams, super Bowl 385 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: type teams make, especially yet go ahead, No, I was 386 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: just gonna say it's got a hurt and I don't 387 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: have a lot of sympathy for Dolphins fans as a 388 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: Jets fan. But if you're in a near must win game, 389 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: you pick luck off twice on two straight plays, you 390 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: recover a fumble, you partially block a punt, and you 391 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: have a ten point lead in the fourth quarter to 392 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: not be able to close that game out, Uh, that 393 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: is These are the type of losses that stick to 394 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: your ribs and it makes you not want to be 395 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: a football quick question. Had they won this, would we 396 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: be giving them any credit as a as a team 397 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: that we can trust anymore? I would have given them 398 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: a lot of credit because they played there at They 399 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: fought their ass off for three and a half quarter. 400 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: They like that. I still, to me, there were a 401 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: team that I kind of expected to just finish eight 402 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: and eight. I'm not sure how it's going to happen, 403 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: but I just well, we're seeing it. They were on 404 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: that road. I do appreciate, though, um that despite the 405 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: Dome being close today, they didn't make a rain there 406 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: in Indianapos. We thought this game is going to be closed, 407 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: and they got it done. For me, so that's why 408 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: should have been thrown at the are we tracking all 409 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: of your rainmakers? We're tracking I know. I think. Let's 410 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: just we went to and we went to and one. 411 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: This week it rained heavily uh in Philadelphia, lost by 412 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: an extra point in Washington. So two and one. That's 413 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: a great rate of returnment right there. Okay, let's move on. 414 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: She's got the snap looks left. Can't lose choo and 415 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: that's one. Don't talk much friends, give me a correct 416 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: him Donovan with the call w c k Y. Hugh 417 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: Jackson had a front row seat for Baker Mayfield and 418 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: each of his career high four touchdown passes, including that 419 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: five effort by tight end David and Juco and Juco 420 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: Juco and Joko and Joco as the Browns roll over 421 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: the Bengals. This was a game as twenty eight nothing 422 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: before the Bengals even scored a point. Anyway, it's another 423 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: slumpbuster for the Browns. Snap game road losing streak mark. 424 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: The Browns like their rookie passer del dangerous. I couldn't 425 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: help because they kept obviously flashing to Hugh Jackson on 426 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: the sideline. What could be going through this man's mind? 427 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: Because love him or hate him, it's been you get fired. 428 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh 429 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: my god, oh my god. He's watching the players that 430 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: he failed to maximize, devastating the defense that he was 431 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: brought in to save in Cincinnati. He's got the magic touch, 432 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: has no doubt about it. It's I I honestly felt 433 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: for him a little bit because it was such a 434 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: perfect storm of him looking like the utter fool. To 435 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: the point at the end of the game, Baker Mayfield, 436 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: who was a rookie, essentially refused to really give him 437 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: a hug, gave him sort of a distant, awkward shake 438 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: as they were partying. Ways you had, Damarius Randell. Let's 439 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: hear what Baker Mayfield had to say about that. I 440 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 1: didn't feel like talking. You are me. I don't know. 441 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: Left Cleveland goes down to Cincinnati. I don't know. That's 442 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: just somebody that was in our locker room asking for 443 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: us to play for him and then goes do a 444 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: different team we played twice a year. Everybody can either 445 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: spen on it, but that's how I feel. I mean, 446 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: I tweeted out that that comment from Baker Mayfield, and 447 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: it starts this insane I just clicked off Twitter because 448 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: it's all these people going back and forth. Well, you know, 449 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: it's not fair to critique Hugh Jackson. He's just looking 450 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: for another opportunity. Well, I agree with you, and I 451 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: think that Baker Mayfield's more sane. You went there, of 452 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: all places, and it's probably more of a league thing. 453 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: That feels like a conflict of interest to allow someone 454 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: to do that. But he also said, Baker Mayfield, we 455 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: have people we believe in calling plays now, and and 456 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: that's not fiction either because whether it's Freddie Kitchens or 457 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: whoever it is Kitchen, it is. They completely changed the 458 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: game plan from last week where or two weeks ago 459 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: against the Falcons, when it was all wishbone run oriented 460 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 1: you think you can run against the Bengals to come 461 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: out today with empty sets and filet Cincinnati, and they 462 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: took their foot off the gas in the second half. 463 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: And we should mention that Andy Dalton left the game 464 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: with with a thumb injury on his throwing hand and 465 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: did not return. Jeff Driscoll played, and I don't know 466 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: what will happen with Dalton. There's no concluding evidence at 467 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: the moment that it wasn't Marvin Lewis said it wasn't serious, 468 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: but they're not sure what that means. Mark, that's three 469 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: great Baker Mayfield performances in a row. Soup is pretty 470 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: hot in that kitchens right now? Right? Oh yeah, I 471 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: still find this to be a completely humor free bit 472 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: by you. But continue to pick it up NonStop. Don't 473 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: you understand that that's what makes it funny? He looked sensational. 474 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on in the last couple 475 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: of weeks with him, because he's grown leaps and bounds 476 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: from some of his earlier performance. That's what's going on. 477 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: I think. I think it's so exciting to watch Mayfield 478 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: and chub And and Joku, Like I know, there are 479 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: four six and one. They're they're really not totally out 480 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: of the wild curraes. But even even if that isn't 481 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: part of the factor, just to watch these young guys 482 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: play like this is has to be exciting. I mean, 483 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: I can't think of a better Brown's moment than like 484 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: today in this decade. I know they were, you know, 485 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: they had a winning record with Brian Hoyer and stuff, 486 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: but to rub it in in Hugh's face while you 487 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: now feel like you have a future quarterback and I 488 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: know he's done it over the last few weeks against 489 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: some of the worst defenses in the NFL, and that's 490 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: gonna change over the next few weeks. He'll be tested. 491 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: But I mean, it's a beautiful thing. Your biggest road 492 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: halftime lead, since that's getting it done. Hmm, agreed. Hot 493 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: The Bengals just reeling joke. They went through a November 494 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: swoon last year and then Marvin saved his job with 495 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: back to back wins at the end of the season. 496 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: But we their defense looked like this in November of 497 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: last year and they're not the same they. I will 498 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: say this unlike not unlike maybe the Dolphins of some 499 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: degree A J. Green was out, Cordy Glenn was not 500 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: in there that did have an impact on this game. 501 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: They're missing people left, but they're also just look like 502 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: you come out of that Saints disaster and this is 503 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: what you do. There's someone that they're five and six 504 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: and technically they're only one game out, but they really do. 505 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: They do feel like a dead team walking and they 506 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: have for a while. And spare me. The pregame insider 507 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: reports that like whispers are you know increasing that that 508 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: Marvin's just going to hand it off to Hugh at 509 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: the end of the season. Like that's gonna depend on 510 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: if if there is any thought that that could happen. 511 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: That has to depend on how the season ends, and 512 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: if it ends in any way that it's been going 513 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: the last month. There's no way Mike Brown could do. 514 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: You can predict what Mike Brown's gonna do even a 515 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: sand grain of self scouting. You don't hire Hugh Jackson 516 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: as your as your head coach. Rank probably thirty seven 517 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: on the list of bizarre things Mike Brown has done. 518 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: Let's move on forty three yard attempt by Jack Elliots 519 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: but kick is away and the kick is It's well done. 520 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: Oh it's been a while since we heard Meryl Reese 521 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: of w i P get that excited. Jake Elliott booted 522 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: a forty three yard field goal through the uprights with 523 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: just twenty two seconds to play. It was the deciding 524 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: points in a win for the Eagles over who had 525 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: a twelve twelve zero lead in this game. They're up 526 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 1: nineteen three at one point in the second quarter. They 527 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: had a nineteen fourteen lead in the fourth quarter, but 528 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: the Eagles kept on coming and they overtook their rival uh, 529 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: you got your luck, you got your wish of a 530 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: quiet December and Gotham and the Eagles keep themselves alive 531 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: in the NFC East. I don't know what happened in 532 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: this game. The Giants came out and here's another nine set. 533 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: They had their most first half yardage since nine against 534 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: an Eagles defense that was without six of the eleven 535 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: starters they had in their earlier matchup with the Giants. 536 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: They were moving the bullet well that the Eagles had 537 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: given up like nine yards over their previous six quarters 538 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: entering halftime, and then the Giants had negative yards in 539 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: the third quarter, completely went away from say Kwon Barkley. 540 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: After the game, Pat Shermer said we needed to give 541 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: him a spell, rest for a spell. They went away 542 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: from him and he was their offense. The Eagles could 543 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: not stop say Kwon Barkley in the first half. And 544 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: then I have to go back and watch this because 545 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: I honestly have no idea how the Giants blew it. 546 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: I think Pat Shermer went in the tank on his 547 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: play calling and ELI couldn't make plays in the second 548 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: hand well. Odell Beckham had pointed remarks because as we know, 549 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: the Philip Philly secondary's way banged up, and there was 550 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: not a lot of challenging of that secondary in the 551 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: second half. Uh. And maybe we'll learn that Sakon Barkley 552 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: had an injury was dealing with because you're right, he 553 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: was unstoppable in that game. What what before they went 554 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: away from him? And I think the turning point uh 555 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: in the game. And Eli had a nice first half 556 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: and they were piling up the yardage, but he forced 557 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: that throw into coverage over the middle, uh in the 558 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: final seconds when he could have settled for a field 559 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: goal got it back to a two score game. Instead, 560 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: it was intercepted easily, and that kind of from that 561 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: point on, it was a totally different game. I mean, 562 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: here here are some of the First of all, you 563 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: had Cravon LeBlanc covering Odell Beckham in the second half 564 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: of this game. Here's some other people in the Eagles 565 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: secondary or their defense in general. You had Shandon Sullivan 566 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: and Cravon LeBlanc getting the most the most snaps. You 567 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: got Trey Sullivan and uh DeAndre Hall. Even in the 568 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: in the mix there at safety, you had Davante bo 569 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: buzzby uh oar her back. I mean this is I mean, 570 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: their entire secondary are are guys that basically couldn't make 571 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: the team back in September. You also have like you coming, 572 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to say Brugie Hill linebacker. 573 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: It's like this is a mass unit. Michael Bennett went 574 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: down in this game. They had some other injuries, and 575 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: for the Giants not to put any points on the 576 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: board in the second half is wild. Don't let their 577 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: defense off the hook, you know. I said that Thursday. 578 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure their defense is any better in their offense. 579 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: I think their defense is worse than their offense, and 580 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: the Eagles just went through them in the second have 581 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: zach Ertz had a big game, but that's kind of 582 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: like Carson went to season. The only thing predictable or 583 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: reliable about this offense is zach Ertz. I do like 584 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: Josh Adams. I do think that he gives them something 585 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: to cling to down the stretch. Absolutely, he was impressive, 586 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: and he had a fifty seven yard touchdown called back 587 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: on a holding penalty on the opening drive. That was 588 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: a big call in the game. Um, he looks good. 589 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna keep that. He's he's already taken 590 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: over as their leading rushing for the season with about 591 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: three hundred yards, and I think he's gonna keep that 592 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: job the rest of the year. Uh. The Eagles are 593 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: five and six. Redskins and Cowboys, of course, tied the 594 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: top the NFC East at six and five. Let's move on, 595 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: Donny townsends point will be fielded by Cyrus Jones or 596 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: the Ravens. Thirty brings it along the numbers to the forty. 597 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: He's got a blocker, he's a mid field down on 598 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: their sideline. Forty alta thirty like Grace twenty ten five 599 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: touchdown Ravens seventy yard punt return for Cyrus Jones. Jerry 600 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: Sandusky w b L with the call. Cyrus Jones big 601 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: return put the Ravens ahead for good. Gus Edwards and 602 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson combined for a hundred eighty nine rushing yards 603 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: as the Ravens took care of the Oakland Raiders thirty 604 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: four seventeen him ball, Mar Greg you were bubbly all 605 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: day watching l Jackson here in little sounds from you 606 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: from your cubicle area. Why, because he's a fun player 607 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: to watch. You know that they came out in the 608 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: first half almost trying to prove a point that hey, 609 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson can be a drop back passer, we can 610 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: run a very conventional offense. There was an really even 611 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: any threat of Jackson running any fakes anything like that. 612 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: And he made some throws. He also had two interceptions, 613 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: both of which were tipped, but we're not uh great throws. 614 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: And then the second half you come out and it 615 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: was like, all right, enough of trying to prove a point, 616 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: let's try to win the game. And they basically ran 617 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: the type of offense that they did a week ago. 618 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: Thirteen played drive touchdown, Gus Edwards and Lamar Jackson get 619 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: it going on the ground and Jackson makes some night throws. 620 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,239 Speaker 1: Seventeen played drive touchdown and it those took up so 621 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: much time that it was essentially over after that. And 622 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: I found it very telling after the game that they 623 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: asked John Harbaugh, you know, if Joe Flacco gets his 624 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: job back if he's healthy, and John Harbaugh went out 625 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,959 Speaker 1: of his way not to answer it. And I think 626 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: this is Lamar Jackson's team. It wasn't perfect, but I 627 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: think they want to ride this out and see what happened. 628 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: I mean, and John Harbaugh's name is being whispered about 629 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: for the USC job this morning, hours before they kicked off. 630 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: My one question with the Ravens, because no doubt, Lamar 631 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: Jackson is arguably the most electric player in the league 632 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: outside of Sequon Barkley. And last week they run for 633 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty seven yards. This week, it's what 634 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty two. We're in a league. We're 635 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: all we're talking about is forget the running back for 636 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: the most part outside of four or five of them, 637 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: and throw the ball left and right and defenses don't matter. 638 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: And the Ravens are coming at this in a completely 639 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: different way. Is that something that the next Ravens coach 640 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: or even Harbaugh is going to try to sustain long term? 641 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: Is this how you play offense with your quarterback rushing 642 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: the ball twenties something times over well? And I'd be 643 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: concerned if he only rushed there once in the first 644 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: half and he ended up with eleven overall and ran 645 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: it well in the second half. You need to have 646 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: a better defense than the one that they've shown lately 647 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: for this to work. They're not really playing game changing 648 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: defense where they have to do The Panthers formula where 649 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: you need the quarterback to move the sticks on third 650 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: downs especially, But it looks like Ozzy Newsome's rookie classes 651 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: saving John Harball's job. You've got Lamar Jackson, Gus the US, 652 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: Orlando Brown's taking over the right tackle. You're starting to 653 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: see Hayden Hurst at tight end. Now this is a 654 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: completely different offense, and I think you don't mess with 655 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: a winning streak. You have to keep playing. Is it 656 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world. And I know that. 657 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: And we just came up the week where everyone was 658 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: saying football is different. Now football has changed. But the 659 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: idea of those two run heavy drives you you mentioned 660 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: Greg in the second half covered almost sixteen minutes of 661 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: clock time. When defenses can't stop offenses anymore, it's not 662 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: a bad thing to have a team that tries to 663 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: control the clock and keep these offenses off the field. 664 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the Ravens way to win. Maybe it's their 665 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: only way to And it's just so hard right now, 666 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: at least it's so hard to They've turned third and 667 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: five to a running down. It's so hard to stop 668 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: the mess play with Gus Edwards, who had a hundred 669 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: and eighteen yards in the first half. They weren't even 670 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: trying that on third and long or third and five. 671 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: In the second half, it was just easy for them. 672 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: It was either Edwards or Jackson running to the edge, 673 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: moving the ball, and and Jackson's passing numbers don't look great, 674 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: but he had some nice throws. He also had a 675 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: fifty yard dime to John Brown that was called back 676 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: by a holding penalty, So he If anyone who watched 677 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: him in college knows he can throw some pretty passes, 678 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: they just got to kind of figure it out. They've 679 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: had some nice, easy matchups to start out well. He 680 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: also turns the ball over. My one thing is I 681 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: can remember other quarterbacks and we were all fawning over 682 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: mesh points and players running for eight yards from from 683 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: under center, and it's like, you're they have two weeks 684 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: of tape on Lamar Jackson in a bunch of you know, 685 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: scattered plays here and there, And I'm not bemoaning it 686 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: if it works. To Dan's point, it's fine to be 687 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: a different type of offense, but I I I wouldn't 688 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: be concerned about any attack where your quarterback is being 689 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: put out there ten times a game for as a runner. 690 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't love that one. One thing 691 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 1: he was good at today was pretty much avoided almost 692 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: any hits. There's maybe one play, but it was basically 693 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: a lot of running not of bounds on six yard 694 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: six yard games. Shout out to Matt Juden, by the way, 695 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: who had a forced fumble that turned into a touchdown 696 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: for Terrell Suggs and wound your boy Terrell sucks, I mean, 697 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: not my boy from it sounded like a downstairs. It 698 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: was a great play. But as all Suggs post, that's 699 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: not true at all. I was saying he was not 700 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame player. People got to calm down 701 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: with the future Hall league. Maybe they'll read up on 702 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: Trell Suggs. He's yeah, thank you, that would be my point. 703 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: So next next drive, Judean gets sacks on the first 704 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: next to plays. So three sacks in three plays, which 705 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: almost never see and he celebrated by running into into 706 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: the tunnel thinking it was fourth down. Perfect, it was 707 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: only third down, a time out wound up like he 708 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: came back and you could see a mouthing, oh, I 709 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: thought it was fourth The game was no longer in 710 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: doubt though. That was but you also a shout out 711 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: to you had a nice Uh you like to call 712 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: on the CBS telecast. Oh yeah, I mean when you 713 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: can find word play like this, you gotta let Tim 714 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: Posty cut it up and play it. They love crafts 715 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: share in Baltimore Crabtree touchdown. I mean you got You 716 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: gotta know that he was worked shopping that for a while. 717 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: You gotta know that there are multiple meanings attached to 718 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: that potentially. Gotta be careful. Let's let's isolate that for 719 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: future Ravens use by the way, let's go. Rick Brady 720 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: takes the staff late pressure of throat on the middle 721 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: for a crockpen, lunches, catch, absorb the contact, and fools 722 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: in the young zone for a touchdown. Patriots to what 723 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: you get the big boy back? Oh god, you know 724 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: what that was? Bob Soggy and human gait raaide bottle 725 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: Scott Zolak with the call h W b Z, Tom Brady, 726 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski. They do something that they hadn't done since 727 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: week one, which is hook up on a touchdown. It 728 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: opened the scoring for the Patriots in the end. They 729 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: pushed past the Jets thirteen at the meadow Lands. Uh. 730 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: If this is your thing. Some people it's their things. 731 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: Some people they're not. It's not. Brady is now the 732 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: NFL's all time passing yardage leader, So congrats on that. 733 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: TV twelve fluting playoffs, which to me is how stats 734 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: should be. I agree with you on that. Uh. This 735 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: one followed a very similar script when these teams play 736 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: in Jersey, especially uh in the Todd Bowls era, which 737 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: could not end soon enough by the way, the Jets 738 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: hang around for two or three quarters before the Pats 739 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: pull away. Uh. Same deal here, and um, yeah, I 740 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: I was. I came out of this game. Really, if 741 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: you're a Patriots fan, you're you're okay. But Brady he 742 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: had a cut on his thumb that I think affected 743 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: his accuracy, so maybe he wasn't as sharp or maybe 744 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: that also goes back to hashtag gradual decline. Maybe that's 745 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 1: a thing. But today was a good day because Sony 746 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: Michelle was running through massive holes in the Jets defensive 747 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: line and the and in general. The Pats had no 748 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: problem uh carving up the Jets, who, by the way, 749 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: hired a defensive head coach. And this is what they 750 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: get about five yards of total offense for the Pats 751 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: So the Patriots are eight and three, and like we said, 752 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: with that Steelers loss, Greg, they are now in position 753 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: for that second bye, and uh, this is what they 754 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: gotta do. They just and this is what they're so 755 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: good at Greg in November and December. They just pile 756 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: up wins while other teams go through highs and lows 757 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 1: and they If you're a Patriots fan like me, you're 758 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: looking for, Okay, what can they be building off of? 759 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: The essentially at nine offensive drives in this game and 760 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 1: they got five yards, So it was a really good 761 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: offensive game, even if if they struggled a bit in 762 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: the red zone, they moved the ball. You get Sony 763 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: Michelle back healthy. It looked like he was banged up, 764 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: but to me, he makes such a difference in their offense. 765 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: They just really need him, and I think he plays 766 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: to the strength of that offensive line. And Gronk is 767 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 1: back healthy, makes one big play, not an efficient thing. 768 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: Looks okay, he's still looked like the clothes somebody trying 769 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: to get an ecrow for a tweet I had last 770 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: week that we're in the post Rock era. We are 771 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: in the post Rock era, but he's still capable of 772 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: making plays. And he did here with three valuable though, right, 773 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: I mean, And so if you have him and Gordon 774 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: cut off five of his targets for seven years, and 775 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: that's a game to build off. It's nothing crazy, But 776 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: this is what the Patriots should do to the Jets' 777 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: Is Jamal Adams the only reason to watch Jets games 778 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: the rest of the season, And isn't that sad? Because 779 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a safety a reason to watch. As 780 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: much as I love Jamal Adams and he really is 781 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: a player, and maybe even at all pro um he is, 782 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: there's there's no playmakers on the Jets defense. Well, you're 783 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: Todd Bowls. You've had a thousand days to fix what 784 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,479 Speaker 1: the previous coaching staff struggled with is you can't rush 785 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: the passer and they still have no one to do it, 786 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: and you're getting gashed on the ground. And to your point, Dan, 787 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 1: I mean everything that Todd Bowls would try to sell 788 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,240 Speaker 1: an ownership group on what he adds, he no longer adds. 789 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: So the season cannot and then quick enough for the 790 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: Jets who need a coach to come in and enough 791 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: with this nonsense where you do not develop offense like 792 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: it's been so long in New York. Come on, who 793 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: else can get out of New York fast enough? Is uh? 794 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 1: The offensive coordinator um who I'm so disgusted with I've 795 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: cast his name out of a name out of my mind. 796 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: Jeremy Bates, who called like fifty five like passing attempts 797 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: or something absurd of that in that nature for a 798 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: forty five passing attempts or Josh McCown in this game 799 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: against the Patriots run defense that you could have moved, 800 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: You could have moved the ball on. He doesn't know 801 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: what he's doing. Bowls is completely lost and worse than 802 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: worse than worse than all It's like this was a 803 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: game it had circled on the calendar. These were the 804 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: fun games, and oh now I got Sam Donald and 805 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: we get to see him go against Brady. But here 806 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: we are. The Jets are boring, They're irrelevant, and that 807 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 1: there's nothing to be learned or gleaned from the rest 808 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: of the season. Uh. And I'm just waiting for the 809 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: season then, and I'm sick of it. I'm sick and 810 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: waiting until January one and then hoping for a brightens. 811 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 1: It's a terrible reality as a fan, and like I'm 812 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: very happy for you, Mark, but it like it doesn't 813 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: make it any better that I see other teams. It's 814 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: not pleasurable like starting to see prog Us And I'm 815 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 1: really happy because I was sick of the Browns being 816 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: bad too, But like the Jets, is just another wasted 817 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: season in this game, I get. I derive no pleasure 818 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,399 Speaker 1: from watching the Jets, least at least though the one 819 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: ray of hope is that you didn't draft Ryan Leaf. 820 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: The quarterback isn't the reason that that they're crumpling. It 821 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: would be nice to see him back on the field. 822 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: But you're right, and you would love to see him 823 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 1: do some positive things. Sam Donald, that is down the stretch, 824 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: but it's gonna ultimately be for a staff that he's 825 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: not working for next year. Anyways. It's just get it 826 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: and I don't need to see Josh McCown anymore. I 827 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: love the guy. I hope he ends up in a 828 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: booth or on a coaching staff. I just don't. I 829 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: don't care to watch him play for three hours on 830 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 1: a Sunday. Patrioch go down on his career. Patriots spend 831 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: a lot of their season trying to figure out what 832 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: their guy who their guys are, and they do feel 833 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 1: like they have sort of a pecking order here on offense, 834 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: with Edelman now looking a little more like himself, with 835 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: Hogan making a couple of plays as a fourth receiver. 836 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: They're healthier than they have been on defense. If you're 837 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: a Patriots hater they like it doesn't surprise me. They 838 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: came out of the bi and beat the Jets here, 839 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: But I think there's a legitimate reasons to think that 840 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: they can play better down the stretch. They're healthy. Hey, Erica, 841 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: first of all, congratulations. Second of all, Um, eighteen straight 842 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: seasons with a five hundred record or better for the Patriots. 843 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,720 Speaker 1: So that would mean you were probably like five or something. Uh, 844 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: two thousand two. I was in second grade. Tough year. 845 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,959 Speaker 1: The second grade must have been tough. You were born 846 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: with Mark and I were starting college. Do you remember 847 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: all that? You know, like a lot of people just 848 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: wondering whether Bledsoe really mixed with Bellack or what. Yeah, 849 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: this is like Greg trying to cook up his early 850 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: nine nineties memories that he actually does not possess of 851 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: the Patriots not being good. What does that mean? What 852 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: it means? Exactly? What I just you're saying the Patriots 853 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: were good in in the nine nineties or the nine eighties, 854 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: Rod Rust and Dick McPherson. I mean I can look 855 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: up their coaches names two on Pro Football Reference if 856 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: I want to. Um, that would cut deep. Um. One 857 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 1: last note before we move on, Cordurel Patterson. Um decided 858 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,280 Speaker 1: to grab my boy Henry Anderson's balls. I love Henry Anderson. 859 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: He's a nice little pick up by Mike mccagnan, who 860 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: you're also on my list, buddy watch out. Uh you 861 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: also said you're gonna come on our show, Mark, Uh, well, 862 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: he did not officially officially haven't been on the show yet. 863 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: That doesn't help you pursue him. An, I sure did, Mark. 864 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: I reached out to the Jets, did I did? I 865 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: mean he's listening to any of these episodes. He knows. 866 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: It's just he's gonna come in here and get lash. 867 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, man, I'm hitting out anyway. Cordell Patterson, UM, Wow, 868 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: was caught on CBS. I haven't seen you this, Matt 869 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: since like the Rainmaker sound drop about twenty minutes ago. 870 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: You're really inflating your sense of importance if you think 871 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 1: I have an issue with the Rainmaker. I just wish 872 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: you would. What I do wish you would do with 873 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: the Rainmaker is just it's just to really get the 874 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: bit right, pick a Rainmaker and one ramaker. I mean, 875 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of like you you said, like the bit 876 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: of it, that it's making you upset, that that it's 877 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 1: what's the most fine. I have no problem with the Rainmaker. 878 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to help you, you know, I'm trying to 879 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: with the Rainmaker. I think one focused Rainmaker would make 880 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: everyone happy. But that's not Greg's aim here, right exactly. Okay, 881 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: if that's the aim, that's fine. Just we're just gonna 882 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: have fun here at Seasons. You're having fun, Yeah, let's 883 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: be fun. Being that you were just talking about high 884 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: level gambling ring behind the scene, I mean, I wish 885 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 1: I was actually making money off of any of this stuff. 886 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: We're not allowed to do that, so we're not allowed 887 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: to tell us you're doing that. So Cordy Patterson grabbed 888 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: the Jets players junk and uh, this is what Patterson 889 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: said when questioned after the game. I'm a grown man. 890 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: I don't need no one's ass and censored and censored 891 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: in my face, which is fair, but maybe don't grab 892 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: the guy's junk that's also fair. It feels like we 893 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: canna agree on both of those statements. Sure, let's move 894 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: on Jacksonville. Second and ten from the two to the 895 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: snap board, is gonna throw it fires down the middle, 896 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: it has tipped. It is intercepted by Jordan Poyer up 897 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: around the eighteen. Are vying Warrior goes down there. The 898 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: Bills pick it off on second down, and now they're 899 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: in field goal range with five oh one left to play. Oh, 900 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: John Murphy w g R. With the call, don't you 901 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: look past those Buffalo Bills. Josh Allen's whore the go 902 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: ahead touchdown fourteen yard run in the fourth quarter. The 903 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 1: Bills handle the Jaguars one. Oh my goodness, Jacksonville. Greg. 904 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: The thing most people will remember about this game, assuming 905 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: they recall anything at all, will be the fight and 906 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: injections of Leonard Fournette and shock lawsuit. It was part 907 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 1: of an incredible sequence if this game, you know, had 908 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: a little more lasting impact that involved a great touchdown, 909 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 1: near touchdown catch being nullified, a fight, as you mentioned, 910 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: with some Haymakers at least being attempted by Fournette and 911 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: laws and they're both kicked out. The fight continues into 912 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: the into the alley, or not the alley would have 913 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: been great, saw check lawsuit having to be held back. 914 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 1: Then another Jaguars touchdown being nullified, then a terrible sack 915 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 1: that Blake Bortles takes, Then a missed field goal by 916 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: Josh Lambeau which Sean McDermott celebrates like they just won 917 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. It's a tie ball game here at 918 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: the end of the third quarter, and then Josh Allen 919 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: making a play and uh, this this game was really 920 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: out of throws seventy four runs and it's very telling 921 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: that the Jaguars treat Blake Bortles just like the Bills 922 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: treat Josh Allen, which is that they don't really let 923 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: him throw the ball. What do you think of Josh Allen? 924 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: I think he had a fun game to watch. Uh, 925 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: you know he I'm not gonna get carried away when 926 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,439 Speaker 1: he I think he completed eight passes in this game, 927 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: but a couple of them were beautiful throws, and he 928 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: ran the ball for almost a hundred yards and I 929 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: like that after his first run of the game, he's 930 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: talking trash right in the Jaguars his face, and when 931 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: he scored a big touchdown to go ahead touch down, 932 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: he does the Jalen Ramsey touchdown celebration. So I like 933 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: that he's out there at least feeling himself. Jaguars are 934 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: now three and eight. They've dropped seventh straight. It's their 935 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: longest losing streaks since they lost nine straight in sixteen. 936 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: When that happened, Gus Radley got canned and replaced by 937 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: Doug Moron. Doug's gotta watch out if this thing is 938 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: starting to really get ugly. Now. I think he'll be okay. 939 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: I think he'll survive no matter what. But I don't know. 940 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: You gotta win a game. Alan had a hundred one 941 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,919 Speaker 1: yards on the ground before two kneel downs and yeah 942 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: eight for nineteen throwing the ball. The boardles thing is crazy, though, 943 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: that they just that you're watching this game. I see 944 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: Alan as a rich man's boardles and boardles. It has 945 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: not made any progress in the five years that he's 946 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 1: in the league. He still looks like a poor man's 947 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. They've got some Redskins level offensive line issues 948 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: to Eric Flowers played left tackle today, Andrew Norwell their 949 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 1: big off season signing hit an ankle injury today. They 950 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: lost their center and right guard in the two weeks before, 951 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,439 Speaker 1: so they are really and and they lost four Nett, 952 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: who was running very well and is the key to 953 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:07,280 Speaker 1: their offense. Let's move up. Rivers under center, fakes the handoff, 954 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: rolling to his right, standing the play still rolling to 955 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: his right, throws to the end zone, caught touchdown Keenan Allen. 956 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers stage perfect it throws his third score of 957 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: the day. Nothing there initially, and I'm sitting here thinking 958 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers about to throw his first incompletion, You're gonna 959 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: have to throw the ball away. But he never gave 960 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:32,919 Speaker 1: up on the play, No he didn't. DJ moved those sticks, 961 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: Matt Money and Daniel Jeremiah with a call for k 962 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 1: f I. Philip Rivers tied the NFL record for consecutive 963 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: completions that throw a Keenan Allen. It was also great 964 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: played by Alan who kept on moving and moving and 965 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: finding a little window. These guys have are are locked 966 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 1: in right now anyway, So Rivers tied the record for 967 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: most completions to start a game and the highest percentage 968 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 1: in the game. As the Chargers whooped up on the 969 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals the stub or at the hub, we're at the 970 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: center Rivers. Probably is there some m VP Levet too, right, Mark? 971 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, he's always forgotten and it doesn't 972 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: help that he's playing in a city where he's absolutely 973 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 1: playing second fiddle to everything that the Rams are doing 974 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: right now. Yes, I mean, how many fiddles can there be? 975 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: Because that stadium Clippers fiddle is like playing louder A 976 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,280 Speaker 1: little bit louder, a little bit louder. I mean, I 977 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: I want to get to the stadium thing in a second. 978 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: But they're one concerning issue. Melvin Gordon, who came in 979 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: with knee and hip issues, left with a injury on 980 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 1: his other knee, which the LA the latest time seen 981 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: here is that Eric Williams of ESPN thinks it's an 982 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: m c L, which is much obviously better than an 983 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: A c L, and they feel like he could return 984 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: but may miss the Steelers game next week, which is critical. 985 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: They do have one of the more deeper, intriguing backfields 986 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: in the league and those in Austin. Ekeler came in 987 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 1: later and played fantastically. They did everything you could ask 988 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: for on offense, and Joey Bosa made a couple of 989 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: big plays. The Cardon is to me are an absolute 990 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 1: lost cause. But if you want to pull one thing hopeful, 991 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,399 Speaker 1: I thought their first drive with Rosen and David David 992 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: Johnson was promising, but it's more of the same. It's 993 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: just a flatlining team that has to question that they're 994 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: gonna keep their coach around. This was a Chargers game 995 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: for me because they got down early where they bounced 996 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: back well after that lost to Denver, and I do 997 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: I do, I do think that they can go into 998 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and beat them, but I don't know if you 999 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: can do that without Melvin Gordon. That was my biggest 1000 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,879 Speaker 1: takeaway from watching the game. When they fall behind ten 1001 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 1: nothing after what we saw in the fourth quarter of 1002 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: the previous Sunday, you're like, oh, man, of this, the 1003 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: charge is gonna charge her here. And then they just 1004 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,399 Speaker 1: what They roll forty five straight points out and they 1005 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: just score every time they have the ball, and it's 1006 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,800 Speaker 1: just another reminder. I mean, this is you shouldn't you know, 1007 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: not get lollipops for beating the Cardinals at home, but 1008 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 1: for a Chargers team that has demons and a and 1009 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 1: a game that in past years could easily been a 1010 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 1: trap game for an organization like this. With the Steelers 1011 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 1: on deck, you gotta give them credit for that. They 1012 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,240 Speaker 1: had one one one series and I thought absolutely showed 1013 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: that they are not previous Chargers teams where z and 1014 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: through an absolutely awful and sometimes you see this from 1015 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, like the decision on a throw, it's just 1016 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,879 Speaker 1: an absolute bad decision. And he threw a terrible pick 1017 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: in this game to Derwin James, and then right away 1018 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon shotguns for a touchdown. It's like, that's what 1019 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,879 Speaker 1: this team can do. They're so explosive. So I am 1020 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: concerned if Gordon's not in there. I'll give him a 1021 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,240 Speaker 1: little lollipop at least for blowing them out for allowing 1022 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 1: essentially no yards after those first two drives. Dumb dumb 1023 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 1: one of those, yeah, like one of the dentist. Maybe 1024 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: a bank lolly, which months old? Good teams do they 1025 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: blow up bad teams? You know, I gotta sneaky hot take. 1026 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: The dumb dumb is way up there in the lollipop rankings. 1027 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: The mystery one, well, I like the cherry and it's 1028 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: like the apple crazy Now Scotch number one in my 1029 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: ring back set. Come on, butter Scotch out there like 1030 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 1: that number one by far, I'll take blow pop right there. Hey, 1031 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: that's a good picktpop lasts longer. I mean it's got 1032 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: come inside. Please let's move. Once someone has protection that 1033 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: starts to break down. Rolling to his right, he throws 1034 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: the ball against his body. Whine open, Panna, harpers of 1035 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: the chan to the five companies only to one top 1036 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 1: stop Tampa Bay Breeze, Father Carnage. If the sound of 1037 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: Jean Decker off of f you asked, Davis wit the 1038 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 1: through for three twelve and two touches. The Bucks easily 1039 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: handle the wretched Niners seven to nine. That snaps a 1040 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: four game skid for Tampa Bay. The Niners. Meanwhile, at 1041 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,320 Speaker 1: two and nine, they seem to be gunning for that 1042 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,399 Speaker 1: number one overall pick. Good luck to them, Mark. Life 1043 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 1: is better for the Bucks when the quarterback isn't constantly 1044 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 1: throwing it to the other team. Yeah, if you this 1045 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: is a Greg Rosenthal special, because this may have been 1046 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston's best game of the year. Uh, he was 1047 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: not turning the ball over like a wild you know, 1048 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: interception robot. He thought he played pretty well. I know 1049 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: what my name associated with this game as a GREG, 1050 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: but why would one build an interception? Right? Yeah? Like, well, 1051 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 1: some teams seem like that's exactly what they want to do. 1052 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: It's like, if you can find a low, like to 1053 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: middling game that's gonna be last on your game path rankings, 1054 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 1: that's your GREG. If you were to isolate just Winston's game, 1055 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 1: you could, I think you could come out with something 1056 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 1: to bolster your argument that Winston is a quarterback to 1057 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,800 Speaker 1: stick around too. I overall I don't buy into that. 1058 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: But one question I come out of this with the 1059 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 1: forty Niners there, so they all they were so banged up, 1060 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: No Pierre Garson, no Marquis Goodwin. Today they had nothing 1061 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: and so Nick Mullins was totally exposed against a terrible defense. 1062 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 1: But they just couldn't get anything. I cannot help but 1063 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: wonder because they also had to waive Reuben Foster after another, 1064 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, charge of domestic violence. So that's that's another 1065 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,839 Speaker 1: draft class going a bit wayward. The overall build above 1066 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,439 Speaker 1: the Niners that if they had Jimmy g this entire year. 1067 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 1: One thing that keeps lingering last couple of games is 1068 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,240 Speaker 1: would there be much more fierce criticism for a Niners 1069 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 1: team that might have maybe four wins, because I don't 1070 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 1: see them suddenly ripping off nine wins just because Jimmy 1071 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: G's in the lineup. This is not a very good team. 1072 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: That's fair. They deserve some criticism. Well so that those 1073 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 1: draft picks, I mean, Stalomon Thomas and Ruben Foster in 1074 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 1: the first round. I mean that's Solomon Thomas is not 1075 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: on the field in key situations. He's not really adding much. 1076 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,439 Speaker 1: He's you know, he's a run stopper that plays half 1077 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: the snaps and isn't standing out. And Foster, I mean, 1078 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,840 Speaker 1: to me, that's the most significant thing. Had nothing to 1079 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,399 Speaker 1: do with this game. But as you mentioned, released over 1080 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: the weekend, after you know, another arrest, and the fact 1081 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 1: that they took they took him back over the summer, 1082 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 1: and that that was Lynch's first class, you are wondering 1083 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: where the criticism is, and I think it's gonna it's 1084 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 1: coming right now. I think in the Bay Area at least, 1085 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 1: this is kind of the inflection point. Also that you 1086 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 1: weren't competitive with a Buck with the total pass. I 1087 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 1: think he's getting one because there's no question that everyone 1088 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: or should this team be more. Here's the one thing. 1089 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: If you say that Kyle Shanahan's asset is that he 1090 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: coaches quarterbacks, well he has done that this year. I 1091 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: mean he creates offense. Matt Breed is leading the league 1092 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: in yards from scrimmage. They've had so many injuries. I 1093 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: think he's a great offensive mine and he's shown it. 1094 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 1: That's like a John Harboe situation. To me, what do 1095 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,399 Speaker 1: you gonna do. Let Kyle Shanahan go and watch someone 1096 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 1: else scoop him up and start winning with a great offense. 1097 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a Shanahan issue. It's just you're 1098 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: two years into this and the talent on the team 1099 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: is there's a long way to go, and maybe maybe 1100 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: they inherited They inherited junk. We know that it was 1101 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 1: a problematic franchise when they arrived, So it's not like, 1102 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: you know, to the state to you know, burn them 1103 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: at the stake kind of thing. But it's just that 1104 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,320 Speaker 1: it is an ultra free pass because you lost your quarterback. 1105 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,359 Speaker 1: The Reuben Foster situation, it's ugly and he did nothing 1106 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: this season on the field. 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Thanksgiving Football, 1141 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 1: second out of ten and here's the snap to Daniel 1142 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 1: back on a play fake looking right, throws right, got 1143 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: called up and makes the Cats of the Ends tuckxdown Bears. 1144 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 1: Let's spend through these Thanksgiving games, starting with the Bears 1145 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 1: Chase Daniels, starting from Mitch Robisky through a queer high 1146 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, the Bears keep rolling the team of a 1147 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 1: t n A over the Lions of Mark Daniel did 1148 00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: his job, but a lot of the credit has to 1149 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: go to the Bears defense, which stifled and Undermann Detroit attack. 1150 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 1: Oh Man Eddie Jackson five touchdowns on defense in two seasons, 1151 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: and it seems like if you play the Bears, you 1152 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: almost have to factor in that they're going to score 1153 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,439 Speaker 1: on you with their defense, probably once a week because 1154 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: it happens over and over. And to me, this was 1155 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 1: another argument for Chicago's coaching staff because this is not 1156 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 1: a team that goes high and low the very consistent 1157 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 1: week to week. This was a rather blase game. But 1158 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 1: you were able to coach up Chase Daniel to do 1159 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 1: what we've we should expect backup quarterbacks to do, but 1160 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 1: you often don't get is come in and just deliver 1161 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 1: a rather vanilla performance. But he also I thought he 1162 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 1: showed great chemistry with his running backs. There was a 1163 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: great wheel route. Who was the guy that caught and 1164 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 1: he missed calling on what would have been another touchdown, 1165 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 1: But there was another guy that got a touchdown too. 1166 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 1: I forgot who was, but I had it. Mizzelle. Yeah, 1167 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: it's like that. He just seemed to be He seemed 1168 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 1: to run the offense well. I thought that Allen Robinson 1169 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: had a great watching this game. Taylor Gabriel is part 1170 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 1: of it, so you didn't see a huge fall off. 1171 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: It's a well coached team and you got the result 1172 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: that you thought you would and someone got their luck. 1173 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,919 Speaker 1: M hmm, that's right. Well it was not me because 1174 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: I'd switched to the Browns, but that was me and 1175 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 1: watching watching this game in the fourth quarter, and I 1176 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 1: know Daniel moved the ball pretty well. His numbers look great, 1177 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: seven for thirty seven to thirty and two. I think 1178 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 1: if you watched, you know, you could see the reasons 1179 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 1: why he's a backup, but he did his job. When 1180 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: it was mid fourth quarter, I'm watching it, the Lions 1181 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 1: have the ball and I'm thinking, like the defense here 1182 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 1: for the Bears is going to have to make a 1183 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 1: play I think for them to win this game. Like 1184 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 1: that's that. It just felt like that's kind of what's next. 1185 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 1: Or maybe it was special teams, and that's exactly what 1186 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 1: they do, and that's that's what great defenses can do. 1187 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they're a shutdown group by any means. 1188 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 1: The Lions still move the ball pretty well, but it's 1189 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: amazing that in a game where they sort of needed 1190 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 1: their defense to make a play at the end. They 1191 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 1: do it. I mean, can you get Matthew Staffords and 1192 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 1: playmakers around him? Let's hit there, hard watch right now, 1193 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: and a good job by the Bears on eighty five 1194 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 1: hours rest to win another football game. But it's hard 1195 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: watching Stafford on the field with a bunch of Hammondaggers. 1196 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 1: They have been a hard watch for twenty years. Carry on, 1197 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Johnson and Marvin Jones are dynamic, and they're missing, and 1198 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: their backups are a huge step down the Bears. Car 1199 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Blunt played pretty well in this, he did, but I 1200 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 1: still think it's a He's a huge step down. The 1201 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 1: Bears need to fix their running game though, to go 1202 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 1: into Denver and run the ball with their two running 1203 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 1: backs ten times for twenty seven yards, and that this 1204 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 1: is not necessarily a new problem. They've been pretty up 1205 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 1: and down. That that could get getting the way of 1206 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 1: winning some big games. You met Detroit, I meant Chicago, 1207 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 1: Tarik Cohen and just into Denver. He sure did, he 1208 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 1: met Detroit. Let's move on. He looks the throw pockets 1209 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 1: clean over the middle. He's got Cooper. Cooper cuts back 1210 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 1: into there. He goes across the fifty. It's a fun 1211 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 1: rice forty forty twenty really get their ten. He reaches 1212 01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 1: out and he's into the ends. Touchdown down. Brad Sham 1213 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 1: of Sham God of k r l D with the call. 1214 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper is making Jerry Jones look like a very 1215 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 1: smart football man. He scored two touchdowns, including that ninety 1216 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,920 Speaker 1: yard romp in a three Cowboys win over the Redskins 1217 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 1: moves Big D into a first place tie in the 1218 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: NFC East West. Is Dallas, once left for dead at 1219 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 1: three and five, now have a favorite in this division. 1220 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: I think they've been the favorite for a couple of weeks. 1221 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 1: They're playing better than the other two teams. I think 1222 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 1: the Redskins, not only over the last few weeks, have 1223 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 1: seen their season dealt a severe blow. They've seen their 1224 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 1: franchise delt a severe blow. Their franchise quarterback, who uses 1225 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,960 Speaker 1: his athleticism as his major calling card, has a spiral 1226 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 1: fracture and might not be ready for the start of 1227 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 1: this season. And at age thirty five, you wonder if 1228 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: we'll ever be the same. This is beginning to feel 1229 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: like a lost season and a lost few years. The Cowboys, 1230 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:54,479 Speaker 1: on the other hand, you know they I thought people 1231 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 1: jumped on the Amari Cooper trade way too early, were 1232 01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 1: too quick to say it was a bad trade, and 1233 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: you've seen transforms this offense. I don't like giving up 1234 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 1: a first round pick for a guy whose contracts about 1235 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,960 Speaker 1: to run out, So you're forced to pay big money 1236 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 1: to a MARII Cooper even if you got B minus results. 1237 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 1: But he absolutely has been a game changer. I thought 1238 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 1: this last game he actually helped create one of the 1239 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:21,160 Speaker 1: only celebrations that I've enjoyed, which was that foul shot 1240 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 1: through the uprights after he scored. I think you can 1241 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 1: see that for years though he had the Marquelle Folks 1242 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,680 Speaker 1: thing going. I I actually I sensory like turn off 1243 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,440 Speaker 1: to most of the celebrations, so if it's been out 1244 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 1: for years, I might have missed it. But I thought 1245 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 1: that was the camera angle to look nice. That did 1246 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 1: a good job with it. I was the nine touchdown 1247 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 1: is the one that gets the juice. But uh, Cooper 1248 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 1: his first touchdown where he just kind of ran away 1249 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 1: from the secondary. It just showed how especially is his 1250 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 1: athleticism is great. Uh. And the Cowboys get another big 1251 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 1: game out of Zeke Elliot, who's getting the ball a ton, 1252 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 1: but he keeps on saying feed me. He does the 1253 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 1: spoon thing. And but that's been working because he's putting 1254 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 1: up about a hundred fifty don a touchdown to two 1255 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 1: every week. You spare me the okay? Now, is Zeke 1256 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: Elliott in the m v P going to have to 1257 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,919 Speaker 1: call this game? So many different ways he's he said, 1258 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 1: people are gonna be talking about the Amari Cooper trade 1259 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 1: is a good trade, absolutely, and that Zeke is an 1260 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 1: m v P K give you a break, Like, in 1261 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,440 Speaker 1: what world is Ezekiel Elliott even remotely close to as 1262 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 1: valuable as Patrick Mahomes or Drew Brees. So those are 1263 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 1: the only two guys that even need to be in 1264 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 1: the conversation. But even if you extended it out to 1265 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 1: five or six, which you shouldn't. This isn't the NBA. 1266 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,480 Speaker 1: You don't vote for five guys like he's nowhere near 1267 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 1: Breeze or Mahomes. He wouldn't even to me, he's not 1268 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 1: even close to Philip Lindsay more valuable than Baker Mayfield. 1269 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,440 Speaker 1: Now that's a different the way that they take that 1270 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 1: award and it and it's not called the most Valuable 1271 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 1: Rookie it's called offensive rookie there. Maybe that changes it, 1272 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 1: but to me, Zeke is nowhere near a franchise quarter. 1273 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,080 Speaker 1: He's not necessarily an average seventy five yards a game 1274 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 1: until the end of the season. He still wouldn't win 1275 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 1: well when I don't could be without Zeke Elley right now, 1276 01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm not r for m v P. But I'm just saying, 1277 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 1: like he's pretty right, he's pretty valuable. He's one of 1278 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: the valuable running backs. And I'm not ready to say 1279 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,160 Speaker 1: he's pretty bad. He's up there with Tyreek Hill as 1280 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 1: the most crucial skill position players on their teams. And 1281 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure that the Cowboys are playing that 1282 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 1: well offensively with Marie Cooper. They got two big plays. 1283 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 1: They won this turnover battle three to nothing. This you know, 1284 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,479 Speaker 1: the Redskins had a lead fairly late, and this looked 1285 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:26,120 Speaker 1: like two fairly even teams. But one is extremely banged 1286 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 1: up right now. And the Cowboys, if they don't beat 1287 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 1: the Saints on Thursday night, they're gonna be tied for 1288 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 1: the lead with either the Redskins or the Eagles going 1289 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 1: going into the last four weeks, and we're I do 1290 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 1: think they're the best team, but I don't think that 1291 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,920 Speaker 1: the other two teams are a hot garbage right now 1292 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 1: right and they're playing each other, so one of them 1293 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 1: gets a win. I don't think Das really played very 1294 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 1: like his best football the last couple of weeks. Like 1295 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,440 Speaker 1: the offense is still very hit or miss Thursday Night football. 1296 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 1: We're just looking to throw, have some mad open toward 1297 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 1: the end zone. Touched on New Orleans. Tommy Lee Louis 1298 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: just activated tonight, put some points on the board for 1299 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 1: the Saints. So twenty eight yard toss it's six nothing 1300 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 1: New Orleans. I felt like that, Zach Streep w W. 1301 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,920 Speaker 1: I felt like the Saints are just messing around on 1302 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,720 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Night. Tommy Lee Lewis and Austin Carr each catch 1303 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 1: touchdown passes their second career touchdown passes for both of them. 1304 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,920 Speaker 1: Rookie tight end Dan Arnold there he is, Dan Lauria, 1305 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 1: rookie receiver Kirk Keith Kirkwood also got touchdowns their first, 1306 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 1: both of them. Saints their ten. They've won ten straight 1307 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: now over the Falcons, and that's even pushing it about 1308 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 1: how close this game really was. Greg This looked like 1309 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,320 Speaker 1: an easy one on paper for the Saints and it was. 1310 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,600 Speaker 1: It was especially because the defense keeps making plays. I mean, 1311 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 1: the the Falcons moved the ball pretty well. But what 1312 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 1: you're you're you have no chance to win a game 1313 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,200 Speaker 1: that has such a small margin fair error when you 1314 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 1: go to New Orleans, when Matt Ryan los the fumble, 1315 01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,720 Speaker 1: Julio Jones loves a fumble on the way into score, 1316 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 1: and Vin Ridley loses the fumble on the way into score. 1317 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 1: So the Falcons shot themselves in the foot. But like 1318 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,320 Speaker 1: you said, Dan, even if they hadn't and they hadn't 1319 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 1: made those mistakes, you got the sense that Saints had 1320 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 1: another gear that they could have gone offensively in this game, 1321 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 1: and they didn't even need it. I mean, there was 1322 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: a second half picked by Matt Ryan. Two. You're so 1323 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 1: right like that that No, he he He's played well 1324 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 1: every game, but like the turnovers, you can't. You can't 1325 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 1: get out of each of these with no points. That's right, 1326 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 1: and you have to take more chances when you're playing 1327 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,760 Speaker 1: the Saints in New Orleans too. I mean, threw the 1328 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 1: ball really well, he did, and he's been doing that, 1329 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 1: but he also had that interception fumbled three times. That 1330 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 1: fumble was the play was designed for him to fake 1331 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 1: inside and by the time he turned around, the ball 1332 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,520 Speaker 1: was out of his hands. Here of speaks to New Orleans. 1333 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 1: Unlike some of these other teams that are buying for 1334 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,920 Speaker 1: buys and stuff, they can rush the passer. In some 1335 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,280 Speaker 1: of these games. They're getting pressure six sacks. I mean that, Well, 1336 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,920 Speaker 1: come on, I know Greg has said they are. You 1337 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 1: can't say that they're not as good on the road 1338 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 1: as at home. I I just can't disagree with that more. 1339 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,960 Speaker 1: They are much better at home the Saints. They are 1340 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 1: a much better home team than road team, and their 1341 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 1: defense plays so much faster at home. I have them, 1342 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 1: I don't. I think they're obviously more dangerous at home. 1343 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 1: They've just been a good road team. They've been better 1344 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,320 Speaker 1: on the road this year, haven't lost the game, and 1345 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,600 Speaker 1: they've bat some good teams, right They've got They got 1346 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 1: lucky to beat the Ravens, and you know, the Vikings 1347 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 1: outplayed them for about twenty minutes in the first quarter 1348 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 1: or first half of that game. I just think their 1349 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 1: defense at home, the Bears are the only defense I 1350 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 1: trust more than the Saints defense. Right now. Wow, they 1351 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 1: are so watch that game again. They are so fast 1352 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,439 Speaker 1: on defense, and they pressured Ryan all games. Well, they're 1353 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 1: getting better and Seloni is getting better. Sheldon Rankins is 1354 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 1: getting better. Davenport came back for this game and he 1355 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 1: adds so much juice to them. So there it's a 1356 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 1: defense that's in. Lattimore is getting better. Started off the 1357 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,680 Speaker 1: season pretty slow and playing well. Now they're playing really fast. 1358 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,120 Speaker 1: Two years ago, the Falcons aree in the Super Bowl. 1359 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:57,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't get over the hup last year in the 1360 01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,960 Speaker 1: NFC four and seven. This year, gotta win. When you 1361 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 1: get there, you don't know if you'll ever get back. 1362 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,440 Speaker 1: That's true. Another last year for the Falcons to Sunday 1363 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 1: Night Football the Cousin's Room, So spaw Matthews fires will 1364 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 1: be the first time more and stealing? Did he get in? 1365 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 1: Stuck down? Oh? Al Michael's with the call. Kirk Cousins 1366 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,160 Speaker 1: versus Aaron Rodgers. Who wins? It's Kirk Cousins And it 1367 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 1: wasn't close. The Vikings quarterback through for three hundred and 1368 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:33,720 Speaker 1: thirty yards three touchdowns, was not intercepted in the Minnesota 1369 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:39,040 Speaker 1: Vikings a huge home win seventeen over the Packers, who 1370 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,800 Speaker 1: are now four and six and in a free fall 1371 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:48,840 Speaker 1: out into nothing, As Tom Earl Petty once said, Greg, Well, 1372 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,920 Speaker 1: that was very Chris Berman. I got a classic rock 1373 01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 1: raff in there. Uh on a night where you thought 1374 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 1: the Packers won't one last stand, it just isn't there. 1375 01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,360 Speaker 1: There's no juice, and the Vikings came to play and 1376 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 1: got it done. They did. I don't think you can 1377 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 1: watch this game in and have any takeaway other than 1378 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 1: the better team won. I mean that the Vikings had 1379 01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:11,360 Speaker 1: four hundred sixteen yards to two fifty four for an 1380 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers led Packers team. The Packers came in banged up, 1381 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 1: they got more banged up throughout the game, and the 1382 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,800 Speaker 1: best Vikings players showed up, including Stefon Diggs. In the 1383 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 1: last moments, this game was not over yet, and the 1384 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,760 Speaker 1: Vikings decided to throw the ball on third and long. 1385 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,519 Speaker 1: Pretty surprising and it would have been a lot of 1386 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,880 Speaker 1: criticism if it didn't work out. Kirk Cousins does not 1387 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,640 Speaker 1: deliver a good throw, but Diggs reaches behind him for 1388 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,679 Speaker 1: a wobbler and ends the game once again. Situational football 1389 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,639 Speaker 1: is the bugaboo for the Packers. That fourth in one 1390 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:45,639 Speaker 1: play where they got stuff. I thought that was huge. 1391 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,760 Speaker 1: Tremont Williams trying to catch a ball that bounced over 1392 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 1: his head. That was huge. And then once again we 1393 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 1: ought to call this on McCarthy. When your team only 1394 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,120 Speaker 1: has one time out left when you're trying to come 1395 01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,840 Speaker 1: back in the two two minutes drill, they always have one. 1396 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm out. They like to start every half with one 1397 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,599 Speaker 1: time out, and knowing they put them on Prime time. 1398 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,599 Speaker 1: Three of the last four games, they've lost all three. 1399 01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,640 Speaker 1: And I get the lost to New England acceptable, But 1400 01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,560 Speaker 1: you have Seattle in Minnesota, two teams that float in 1401 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 1: your world. If you're the Packers, that you need to 1402 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,519 Speaker 1: come out and show us we can take care of 1403 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,280 Speaker 1: Seattle and then we can take care of the division 1404 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,719 Speaker 1: opponent that we know so well. You can't do either. 1405 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 1: You don't belong in the playoffs. The difference from me 1406 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 1: with this game compared to all these other games, because 1407 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,800 Speaker 1: it did follow similar script as all these losses have, 1408 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 1: is that someone whether it's the defense or special teams, 1409 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 1: messes up and doesn't even give Aaron Rodgers a chance. 1410 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 1: And in this case, they weren't able to get the 1411 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,040 Speaker 1: third down stop. But you know what, this game is 1412 01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,000 Speaker 1: different to me because I don't think it matters if 1413 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 1: you know Aaron Rodgers gets the ball back. And I 1414 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 1: never want to doubt Aaron Rodgers, but the way this 1415 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 1: team looked on offense, they just seemed dysfunctional and frankly broken. 1416 01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 1: There's no the magic that was on display early in 1417 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,599 Speaker 1: the season. Member when we are in London or hotel 1418 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,120 Speaker 1: rooms were watching that Bears game and how fun that 1419 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,519 Speaker 1: was with Rogers. By the time we've gotten out to 1420 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,519 Speaker 1: late November, there's just just that seems to be absent 1421 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 1: now and they're owing six on the road, which and 1422 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has to take some uh credit for the 1423 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,080 Speaker 1: blamers take some of the blame here too. I don't 1424 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,680 Speaker 1: think anybody is blameless in what's happened in since that 1425 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,799 Speaker 1: Bears game. Your wins, precious Green Bay Packers are against 1426 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,040 Speaker 1: the Pills, forty Niners and Dolphins. What a night. If 1427 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 1: another team had this script, we'd be killing them. We 1428 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:36,800 Speaker 1: are tonight. Took till this night, Yeah, but other teams 1429 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,439 Speaker 1: killed him last week weeks ago. Don't have one of 1430 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks in NFL history, so you're always gonna 1431 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 1: give them a chance. But to dance point, you're right, 1432 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,840 Speaker 1: they haven't developed anything throughout the season. They're backing up 1433 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,200 Speaker 1: like abow this scantling we were excited about for a while. 1434 01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,360 Speaker 1: You had three yards in this game. You know Econymius st. 1435 01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,840 Speaker 1: Brown is their number two receiver. You never got Cobb back. Uh. 1436 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 1: It's a lot of it. I mean a lot of 1437 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 1: key injuries to Nick Perry Daniels. These are core guys, 1438 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,439 Speaker 1: but I don't know if they could have figured it 1439 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,320 Speaker 1: out anyways. It is as dark as it's ever been 1440 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 1: in the Mike mccar, this finally does here's your hope. 1441 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,760 Speaker 1: You have the Cardinals, Falcons, Bears, Jets, and Lions. Are 1442 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,679 Speaker 1: we gonna start hearing about the run the table nine 1443 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,600 Speaker 1: and only if they win two or three straight? And 1444 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 1: guess what, Mark, I know you root against Aaron Rodgers. 1445 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,240 Speaker 1: Not rooting against Aaron Rodgers. I just this tonight. This 1446 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,679 Speaker 1: is what you don't root against Aaron Rodgs is reality 1447 01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,360 Speaker 1: to me. Let's pull up some of the audio during 1448 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,960 Speaker 1: this game. It's not just Aaron Rodgers, it's the it's 1449 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,720 Speaker 1: the whole thing surrounding the Packers. If Aaron Rodgers run 1450 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,360 Speaker 1: a different team, dealt with differently, I would not point 1451 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 1: at all. I'm not going to stop rooting for Aaron 1452 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,240 Speaker 1: Rodgers even though it's a bad team. That's not what 1453 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing, by the way, Okay, just your that's a narrative. Okay, cool. 1454 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to keep rooting just because it's more fun. 1455 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,680 Speaker 1: I think it's fun when he's involved with in the 1456 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 1: in December and in January. And what's what sucks about 1457 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 1: this especially I have nothing else to root for. Is 1458 01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,120 Speaker 1: it seems like they are just not going to be players. 1459 01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 1: And I mean, but here's my question, not like five 1460 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 1: or six other really amazing teams to root for, why 1461 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:07,000 Speaker 1: why not? Like not the Packers. But I think Rogers special. 1462 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,000 Speaker 1: That's why it's a bummer that he's not going to 1463 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:10,720 Speaker 1: be around. He looked in the mirror this week. He 1464 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,240 Speaker 1: promised changes, he said, I have to play differently, and 1465 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,719 Speaker 1: this was more of the same. I didn't see anything different. 1466 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,240 Speaker 1: I didn't see a better Rogers. And I think, to 1467 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,559 Speaker 1: Mark's point, this is not a fun team to watch. 1468 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,800 Speaker 1: They broke me in that Seattle game, and I I'm 1469 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,120 Speaker 1: with Greg. I'm ready for the McCarthy era to be 1470 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,479 Speaker 1: over so Rogers can work magic and someone else. I mean, 1471 01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get our wish and I think 1472 01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,160 Speaker 1: the time is still going to tell about this Vikings team. 1473 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 1: This was an important, important step forward for them, and 1474 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,720 Speaker 1: they did some of the things that you want them 1475 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,320 Speaker 1: to do. Cousins played a very clean, excellent game feeling, 1476 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 1: and Diggs looked like stars. Cook looks like he has 1477 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,280 Speaker 1: more juice even though they still can't run the ball 1478 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,519 Speaker 1: at least in the passing, he looks like it is 1479 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,519 Speaker 1: more juice. And more importantly, Richardson, I think this team 1480 01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,240 Speaker 1: is gonna go as far as Richardson, Griffin and Hunter 1481 01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,479 Speaker 1: take them. I mean, some of the moves that Hunter 1482 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 1: put on uh and a key sack Richardson's played great 1483 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:09,000 Speaker 1: are year. If those three can dominate in Linval Joseph too, 1484 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 1: then I think this team has a shot to really 1485 01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,680 Speaker 1: make some noise. I don't they haven't really all put 1486 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,240 Speaker 1: it together too often as a total team, but they 1487 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,360 Speaker 1: got the pieces to do it. They have tough games 1488 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 1: at New England at Seattle, but to use marks phrase, 1489 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,479 Speaker 1: the Vikings live in that world. It's not like the 1490 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 1: Patriots are some kind of juggernaut this year, and the 1491 01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,559 Speaker 1: Seahawks aren't either, so they can win those games. Yeah, 1492 01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,960 Speaker 1: great win for the Vikings, I'm a little bit worried, 1493 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,080 Speaker 1: and I know all Vikings fans are the same way. 1494 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,640 Speaker 1: Two more mrs for Dan Bailey in this game, uh 1495 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,560 Speaker 1: and them are lost trust And you gotta yeah, and 1496 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,360 Speaker 1: you gotta wonder. They went for it on fourth down 1497 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,120 Speaker 1: when they had a chance to really put the game 1498 01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 1: away or make it a seventeen point game or thirteen 1499 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 1: point game, and they decided to, uh go for it. 1500 01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,080 Speaker 1: It didn't work out. And who knows? Is Dan Bailey 1501 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,040 Speaker 1: on this team and this Vikings curse at the kicker position. 1502 01:14:58,200 --> 01:14:59,960 Speaker 1: This team is gonna play with close games. They're try 1503 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 1: don't win a Super Bowl? What happens there. That's one 1504 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,559 Speaker 1: negative I would think from Sunday night, and that they've 1505 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,920 Speaker 1: got quite a bit of ground in my mind to 1506 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,759 Speaker 1: catch up. I mean in the standing certainly with the Bears. 1507 01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,120 Speaker 1: A game and a half is significant this late in 1508 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,280 Speaker 1: the season, and just the Bears seemed like a better team. 1509 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,639 Speaker 1: So they are fighting uphill to get a wild card spot, 1510 01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,160 Speaker 1: which is which is a tough route to in a 1511 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,200 Speaker 1: very loaded NFC, but it's still a big to The 1512 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,720 Speaker 1: Vikings feel like a team that's gonna get into the 1513 01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,640 Speaker 1: wild card round and rip off three wins against all 1514 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 1: these other teams in the NFC. Absolutely not they, but 1515 01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,719 Speaker 1: but the differences. Had they lost tonight, we'd be burying 1516 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,400 Speaker 1: them and they would be by They haven't shown it, 1517 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,000 Speaker 1: but they have the pieces that you would think that 1518 01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,120 Speaker 1: they can play better, and different parts of the team 1519 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,800 Speaker 1: have played well like tonight. If you have the defensive line, 1520 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,560 Speaker 1: if you have that good of pass rush and that 1521 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 1: good of a passing game, you're gonna have a chance 1522 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,160 Speaker 1: to win any game. Well, well, when what we what 1523 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,600 Speaker 1: we want to see the rest of the year is 1524 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,800 Speaker 1: fix the offensive line in the running game, then we'll 1525 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,800 Speaker 1: take you. Seriously. Two hundred and fifty four yards of 1526 01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:00,960 Speaker 1: total offense for the Pack is in a game they needed. 1527 01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,920 Speaker 1: What a mess. All right, that's it for Sunday. We 1528 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,800 Speaker 1: have one more Monday Night football, one more game. It's 1529 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,879 Speaker 1: on Monday Night. It's a matchup between who was Titans 1530 01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,639 Speaker 1: and Texas. Your team you're Houston Texans. I know it's 1531 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,479 Speaker 1: my team. I knew the matchup. I was just wanting 1532 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,719 Speaker 1: to giving us a little but a little pop Dans 1533 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:25,840 Speaker 1: Texans against the Tytoons. Somebody's team, whoever it is. I 1534 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 1: didn't even think about that. It's kind of like your 1535 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 1: anti team. Uh. And then uh for us Tuesday, Uh, 1536 01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,200 Speaker 1: we'll be our Twitter show and then Wednesday and late 1537 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,800 Speaker 1: Thursday night to podcasts, and then we just keep going 1538 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,000 Speaker 1: as we head towards December. That's it. This is Dan 1539 01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,080 Speaker 1: hans Is signing off four Quiet Storm The Mail, met 1540 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:50,639 Speaker 1: the Old Boss and Ricky Hollywood behind the glass. Hey Ricky? 1541 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,160 Speaker 1: How is monial? Thanksgiving? It was really fun? Nice? Thanks 1542 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:55,400 Speaker 1: until Tuesday