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Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental health podcast

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Speaker 1: helping you out of the gray and into the blue.

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Speaker 1: Now here's Jay Glacier.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Unbreakable, a mental health podcast with Jay Glazer.

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Speaker 3: I am Jay Glazer.

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Speaker 2: And before we get into today's guest, who I'm so

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Speaker 2: excited to talk to. If you're like many people, you

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Speaker 2: may be surprised to learn that one in five adults

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Speaker 2: in this country experienced mental illness last year. Yet far

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Speaker 2: too many fellow receive the support they need. Carolyn, behavioral

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Speaker 2: health is doing something about it. They understand that behavioral

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Speaker 2: health is a key part of whole health, delivering compassionate

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Speaker 2: care that treats physical, mental, emotional, and social needs in tandem. Carolyn,

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Speaker 2: behavioral health raising the quality of life through empathy and action.

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Speaker 2: I have a really cool guest on today because his

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Speaker 2: career spanned so many different things.

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Speaker 3: I think if you said twenty.

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Speaker 2: Years ago, hey, it's going to take him over here

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Speaker 2: to wrestling, you probably say, how is that possible?

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Speaker 3: My dude? Freddy Prince Junr, How are you, my man?

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Speaker 4: I'm very well, how are you good? Good? Now?

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Speaker 3: People going away?

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Speaker 2: While were we talking about Freddy Prince Junior and wrestling.

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Speaker 2: But you have a new podcast out called Wrestling with Freddy.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that's correct.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So before I kind of jump into how you

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Speaker 2: got it, man, I went to wrestle Mania one.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing, dude.

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Speaker 3: Was it was Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 2: It was Hult Cocha and Mister t versus Rowdie Piper

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Speaker 2: and Paul Orndorf and Muhammad Ali was the referee.

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Speaker 3: How fucking cool is right?

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Speaker 4: Right? That's right? Man? Yeah? Yeah. Ali and my dad

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Speaker 4: were actually friends back in the seventies and Ali used

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Speaker 4: to spar with him and whip his ass all the time.

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Speaker 5: Really, Oh my god, yeah man, my dad, Oh yeah, man,

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Speaker 5: my dad did a mean impression of him, and Johnny

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Speaker 5: Carsonon asked my dad to host the show's to this day,

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Speaker 5: he's the youngest person ever host the Tonight Show.

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Speaker 4: Wow, And my dad had George Foreman on as a guest,

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Speaker 4: and they re enacted Zaire and my dad was Ali

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Speaker 4: and Foreman was Foreman and a Foreman let my dad

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Speaker 4: knock him out. We actually have a tilet all these

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Speaker 4: blood on it that says June either June first or

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Speaker 4: June twenty first, nineteen seventy five Ali's blood. My dad

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Speaker 4: got beat up so much. He met my godfather, who

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Speaker 4: was Bob Wall who just passed away. Bob was the

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Speaker 4: guy that Bruce sought out when Bruce Lee came to America.

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Speaker 4: So Bob introduced him to Jean LaBelle and Chuck Norris

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Speaker 4: and all Pat Johnson and all these like legends, right,

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Speaker 4: And my dad heard he was the guy that trained

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Speaker 4: like all the Hollywood guys to be tough guys like

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Speaker 4: Steve McQueen and James Garner. And so my dad said,

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Speaker 4: you got to teach me how to fight. And my

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Speaker 4: godfather taught him the left hook or a check hook, really,

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Speaker 4: And they were in Ali's house and they were fooling around,

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Speaker 4: and my dad caught Ali with like this baby hook, right,

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Speaker 4: but the couch was behind Ali, so it made Ali

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Speaker 4: trip and fall and his nose got bloody, and my

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Speaker 4: ass to his house. While he's driving home, Ali's calling

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Speaker 4: the house talking to my mom saying, I'm gonna kill

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Speaker 4: that boy. You tell how boy, I'm gonna kill him

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Speaker 4: when he gets home. My dad had the towel framed

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Speaker 4: like a war medal on crushed purple velvet with a

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Speaker 4: I think it's June twenty first, nineteen seventy five. My

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Speaker 4: mom still has it to this day. She says I

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Speaker 4: can have it when she's dead. That's her exact quote.

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Speaker 2: That's unbelievable, man, dude, incredible, that is wild.

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Speaker 4: I love that my dad charmed a lot of people

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Speaker 4: So I really love that.

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Speaker 3: Really cool.

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Speaker 2: And look, I'm gonna hit your your podcast here a

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Speaker 2: little while, But you talk about your dad.

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Speaker 3: How was your dad right? He took his own life

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Speaker 3: when you were just a little kid. Yeah, tell you, hey,

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Speaker 3: how did it affect you?

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Speaker 2: And you know, you talk about globally here, like you

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Speaker 3: Like, how did it all fetch you? Well?

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Speaker 4: To start your question, it was it was horrible. How

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Speaker 4: I dealt with it? I don't In the beginning, I didn't.

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Speaker 4: It was something that was constant pressure and this crushing,

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Speaker 4: have now. As strange as that sounds to say, when

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Speaker 4: young age, and anyone will relate to this, your knowledge

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Speaker 4: of them is based on stealing memories of others. That's it,

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Speaker 4: like you're just stealing, You're looking for anything. You're asking

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Speaker 4: more questions than most kids. It makes you grow up

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Speaker 4: a little bit faster. It probably stunts your growth in

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Speaker 4: other ways, but you ask a lot of questions, you

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Speaker 4: to understand. I was talking to guys like Richard pryor

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Speaker 4: had that huge falling out because Pam Greer fell in

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Speaker 4: love with my dad instead of Richard and Richard where

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Speaker 4: they had the same manager. Journey's like you got to

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Speaker 4: it was a crazy time back then, but it definitely

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Speaker 4: but it definitely didn't help me in any that's you know,

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Speaker 4: that's a horrible thing for any kid to have to

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Speaker 4: You have to just deal with it a lot sooner,

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Speaker 2: When you talk about your private He's like, I don't

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Speaker 4: He looked at me and he said, boy, your father

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Speaker 4: was a motherfucker, but he was a funny motherfucker and

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Speaker 4: Paul Mooney I met when I was twelve, and he

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Speaker 4: Chris Titus, and Titus introduced me to him, and I

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Speaker 4: who would just go, oh, he was lovely, he was wonderful,

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Speaker 2: You should have helped you grow up a lot, obviously

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Speaker 2: a lot faster. But there's two ways you can go.

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Speaker 4: It's definitely practice. I mean, I've said this before, but

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Speaker 4: I credited through martial arts. Bruce Lee said, martial arts

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Speaker 4: so when I was young, my godfather took the same

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Speaker 2: Wow, of all those comedians he's out in there, who's

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Speaker 4: I mean, I watched Richard Pryor in a wheelchair break

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Speaker 4: or no? Fuck? Yeah, okay, okay, it was Richard Pryor.

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Speaker 3: So he talk to me too.

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Speaker 4: Shit all right. So he says, uh, how was that

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Speaker 4: a multiple sclerosis function? With a fuon of cello and

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Speaker 4: oh no, like this is we can't watch our hero, like,

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Speaker 4: goes and she sucked my dick. And he did five

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Speaker 4: and I won't do it justice, so I'm not going

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Speaker 4: to create the joke for you. That's that's unfair to him.

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Speaker 4: He's not here to beat my ass for it. But

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Speaker 4: like he brought us in with weakness and then just

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Speaker 4: up and cheered longer than his set lasted. Wow, never

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Speaker 4: forget I'll never forget that. He literally broke the room

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Speaker 4: because he had us in such a vulnerable place and

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Speaker 4: he knew it. The son of a bitch knew it,

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Speaker 4: and then he killed everybody. It was such a genius.

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Speaker 3: He's the best ever.

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Speaker 4: Everyone agrees to that.

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Speaker 3: Incredible. That's incredible. But why'd you decide to get the

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Speaker 4: My grandfather was not a fan of my dad's, and

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Speaker 4: he had cancer when I was sixteen years old and

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Speaker 4: was on hospice care and he asked me to come

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Speaker 3: He was a goofy guy with bad teeth. I'm a

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Speaker 2: Come on, well for seven years, Scio Strayan like twenty

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Speaker 4: And it never worked out because I was working and

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Speaker 3: So you sit there and again he was my ride everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Sure, talent's what brings you to Los Angeles. Skills what's

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Speaker 4: Talent is having an ability to be a storyteller and

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Speaker 4: Skill is using that talent not all at the same time,

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Speaker 4: me to describe it, but it wasn't the way he

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00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,440
Speaker 4: described it. I just don't have the vocabulary he had.

438
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,160
Speaker 2: Hey, you also want to get here because obviously I've

439
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 2: spent my life in martial arts as well, had a

440
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,199
Speaker 2: couple of fights early on in the early days and

441
00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 2: before Fox maybe stop, which.

442
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 3: I don't understand why I'm clearly not on TV from my.

443
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 4: Looks, but they don't want you coming on. The guys

444
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 4: go down their head, man, get out of here.

445
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 2: My first day at Fox two thousand and four, the

446
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,400
Speaker 2: day before I won the NAUGA World and uh.

447
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 3: Submission Fighting, get out of here. Yeah, and I but

448
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 3: I ended up getting really fucked up in the process.

449
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,159
Speaker 2: My very first day of the NFL owners being two

450
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 2: thousand and four, and I come in and my eyes

451
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 2: shut and my foot is fucked up, my rib is broken,

452
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,439
Speaker 2: and the head of Fox was like, what.

453
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 3: The fuck up and you?

454
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, my eyes shut, I'm going

455
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 2: I just won the World Submission Fighting Championships. She's like,

456
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck that is, but you'll

457
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 2: never fucking do it again.

458
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 4: That's why you lie, bro.

459
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 3: Maybe that's exactly right.

460
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 4: I got hit bus you gotta hey.

461
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 3: Well, I kept doing.

462
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,400
Speaker 2: It, and man, I became everybody's favorite far and partner

463
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 2: for a little while. They said I couldn't fight, but

464
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 2: they said I couldn't continue far and train and all that,

465
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 2: And obviously then I learned how to start coaching and

466
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 2: coached a ton of guys over these years. Who was

467
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,239
Speaker 2: those early days we were talking about, right and with

468
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 2: your cruise trading Bruce Lee and Judo gen Leavel and

469
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 2: all that. Who kind of because I trained with Dan

470
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 2: and Santo just for a weekend. Who was unbelievable?

471
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 4: Right?

472
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 3: Who are those early legends stands out for you?

473
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 4: Dennis Alexio was really good to me when I was

474
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 4: a kid. He was a former ISKA heavyweight kickboxing champion.

475
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 4: Beat the hell out of Bronco siic A Tic in Hawaii.

476
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 4: Weird finish because Bronco claimed he didn't know leg kicks

477
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 4: were allowed, so they started the fight over and Dennis

478
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 4: beat his ass again. Rick Rufus was really cool to

479
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 4: me when I was a kid. Brian Hurry, who was

480
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 4: his best friend who competed at the national level, is

481
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 4: still one of my closest friends to this day. Big,

482
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 4: big ass Brian. He's another Milwaukee boy, six five to sixty.

483
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 4: He's in his fifties now and it still looks like

484
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 4: a stone killer, Like he's just a monster. Pat Johnson

485
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 4: Chuck Norris taught me how to throw the wheel kick,

486
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 4: but he was, you know, a working actor, so he

487
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 4: wasn't like my full time coach, where Pat really was

488
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 4: Gokre for a little bit o Wow, which was Pat's student.

489
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 4: But I fell in love with Jiu jitsu and they

490
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 4: introduced me to a named Jean Jaques Machadore. And I

491
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 4: thought I was a hot shit wrestler at fourteen fifteen

492
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 4: when I met him, And in less than well he

493
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 4: had one hand. So I'm like, I'd gone with guys

494
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 4: that were older than me before and done well, and

495
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 4: I'm like, this guy's not gonna have anything. And I

496
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 4: didn't know that he had just beat the hell out

497
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 4: of Chuck and Bob and they gave they gave Jean

498
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 4: Jacques and all his brothers their first real estate space.

499
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 4: It was in Wall Street Village that was Bob Walls

500
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 4: building and so they were there rent free, that's how

501
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 4: good they were. And in less than ten seconds he

502
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 4: had me and a wrestle in a fireman's carry and

503
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 4: stood up and spins me around on the second floor

504
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 4: and goes which we though little Freddy, which we and

505
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 4: I'm like Chris Tucker in Rush Hour, like, which one

506
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 4: of y'all just kicked me right? And so he set

507
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,239
Speaker 4: me down and he started teaching me how comfortable he

508
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 4: was on his back and why he was comfortable there,

509
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 4: And that was my introduction to jiu jitsu. This was

510
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 4: like nineteen ninety two ninety three, Oh wow. And then

511
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 4: as I started working in this business, my training slacked,

512
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 4: and then as I took time off, my training increased.

513
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 4: I met the Gracies after that, trained with them for

514
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 4: a while, and then found my way back to Jean

515
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 4: Jocks a few years ago and have just been with

516
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 4: him ever since. I loved training with the man. He's

517
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 4: always been good to my family. He's taught me more

518
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 4: about fatherhood than jiu jitsu, you know. So it's it's

519
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 4: something I try to enforce all my kids as well.

520
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 4: My son takes to it more than my daughter. But

521
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 4: you know, we're in LA so they get access to

522
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 4: the best. Like his boxing coaches was Wayne McCullough. He

523
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, when your kids have

524
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 4: access to that, it's just like, it feels crazy not

525
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 4: to use it, so we do as a family. You know.

526
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 4: Sarah training taekwondo got all the way to a brown

527
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 4: belt before she became the busiest woman in Hollywood and

528
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 4: worked seventeen hours a day on Buffy back in the day.

529
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, I still love it to this day.

530
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 4: I still train. It keeps me saying, it keeps me sharp,

531
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 4: It keeps me vulnerable, which I think is important that

532
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 4: has made me a better man.

533
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because you know my training partners and

534
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: up being Randy Gator, Chuck Ladell and Jesus After.

535
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 3: We you know, being the cage beating the hell at

536
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 3: each other.

537
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: That's where we get really vulnerable and start opening up about,

538
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 2: you know, our shitty relationships and whatever's going on between

539
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 2: our years. And people come past, especially Randy and I,

540
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: we'd cry our eyes out and people walk past the

541
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: cage and I really get it.

542
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 3: To be like, and these guys are crying, they really

543
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 3: beat the hell out each other. We know, we're just

544
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: open up to each other.

545
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 4: When you spar with someone and you're trusting them enough

546
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 4: to give them opportunities to practice what you've been discussing

547
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 4: and they in turn are giving you opportunities for you

548
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 4: to execuate, there has to be a next level of

549
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 4: trust there. And that's why they say, like, blood, sweat

550
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 4: and tears is the ultimate glue, right, because my godfather

551
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: used to say, blood, sweat and tears is the ultimate glue.

552
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 4: It makes men stick and it does man like. That's

553
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 4: why they were all brothers, That's why they all wanted

554
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 4: to beat the crap out of steven Sagall in the

555
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 4: nineties and right that whole group of them were like, oh,

556
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 4: we want you to die, you know, because they were brothers.

557
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 4: They had cut each other, they had bled with another,

558
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 4: with one another, they had cried in each other's arms.

559
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 4: You know, same kind of thing. Man, it's a different experience.

560
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 4: People that haven't experienced it won't get it. It'll just

561
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 4: sound like Yoda bs right, But it's not. Once you

562
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 4: have it once, it's It's why people talk about it

563
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 4: like a religion, because it really humbles you and it

564
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 4: opens you up.

565
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 3: Man, but it gives you this type of team. Again.

566
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: For me, like one of my pillars are getting through

567
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: my gray and depression anxiety is to have a team.

568
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: And there's no more you know, primal team if you will,

569
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 2: loving team. And these guys and people, you're right, they

570
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: don't understand, like, well, you could all beat the shit

571
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: at each other, but then really love each other even

572
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: more than the rest of it, Yeah, more than other friends,

573
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: Like you don't get angry to each other. I'm like, no,

574
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: I love them more for that. Yeah, yeah, but then

575
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 2: we all need some sort of fight team. Even if

576
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: you don't literally fight. That's why I call it a

577
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,239
Speaker 2: fight team, where you know that people will walk this

578
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 2: walk with you through a different level.

579
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 4: Not even fifteen feet to my right are my wrestling

580
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 4: mats over there? And even if it's not like with

581
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 4: John Jocks, my buddy is an ex marine Tyler Smith.

582
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 4: He fought for a little bit. He's got a black

583
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 4: belt jiu jitsu. Like, he'll come over and we'll just

584
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 4: get on the mats and go. And I'm just I

585
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 4: don't even ask what's going on, but I'm like, something

586
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 4: happened today and we need to roll, So come on

587
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 4: over and let's go. You know, you just know it

588
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 4: a certain point like, yeah, okay, my bro needs me,

589
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 4: let's do let's do our thing.

590
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 2: Katora just got out of the hospital from we don't

591
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 2: make our heart attack in our gym.

592
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah.

593
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: He had in the gym Unbreaka boy down in Sunton

594
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: Strip and then walk to the Cedar Sha and I

595
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: and he come.

596
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: He gets a stint put in and he comes back

597
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 3: three weeks later into the gym and he goes in

598
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 3: and he.

599
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 2: Gets old stuff on. I said, what are you doing?

600
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: He said, let's go. I said, dude, what are we

601
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 2: doing here? He's like, let's go. I said it better

602
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 2: be a photo shoot.

603
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: You just had a widow make her heart attack full block,

604
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 3: full on.

605
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 2: We don't make our heart attack. And he just said this,

606
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: I would do it for you. I was like, fuck me,

607
00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: but that's the bill.

608
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 4: That's a hook you can't get out of your mouth.

609
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 3: I gotta do it.

610
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: Man. You could be Jaws and your hope and that's it.

611
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: That's it.

612
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 2: We went in there and beat the shit at each

613
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 2: other in fifteen minutes and took his gloves off through

614
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: him on the ground.

615
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 3: He said, hey, fuck those doctors and walk down of

616
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 3: the cage. Yeah, that's that different brotherhood man, right.

617
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 4: Fuck those doctors. Look, I know it's not responsible for

618
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 4: someone like me to say it, but sometimes you know

619
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 4: you sometimes you know you know what your heart needs,

620
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 4: you know what your body needs. I know people like

621
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 4: you'll never run again. My man get ran into La

622
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 4: Marathon the next year and we're like, screw that, I'll

623
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 4: show you and that.

624
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: By the time I'd gotten to critical care of the

625
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: hospital post hop, I was like basically busting through to

626
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: go see him. The doctor told me ten times, hey,

627
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: your your your friend's days of fighting, those days were over, Like, hey,

628
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: let's not fucking say that here, let's not take away

629
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: his hope. So that was his version of, hey, fuck

630
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: these doctors. Yeah, that's exactly what he's And then, by

631
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: the way, he continued to coach for the next three

632
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: hours after our little fifteen minutes.

633
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that, but that's what that guy's.

634
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 4: Are about at the same time he's doing.

635
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: I mean, that fucker is different. Yeah, hey, you and

636
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: your wife are different.

637
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: Well you thought about our Marshallow, but you know Hollywood couples,

638
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: you normally look at him like, oh man, this this

639
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: is a disaster, right, and you and your beautiful wife, who,

640
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: like you said, has been working for a long long time.

641
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, why to you and Sarah Michelle Gillard worked

642
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 3: so much?

643
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: What is it that you guys set out that you

644
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: know the rest of I guess Hollywood fucked up and

645
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: this hasn't sunk into you guys.

646
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 4: Look, I don't know a simple answer. I will say this.

647
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: You know, if you look at the national divorce rate

648
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 4: in our whole country, it's over fifty percent, you know

649
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 4: what I mean, And Hollywood is probably more like ninety,

650
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 4: but fifty is not a good number, you know what

651
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 4: I mean. So I think a lot of people get

652
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 4: married maybe too young. You know, they don't know themselves

653
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: one hundred percent yet, And as you discover who you

654
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 4: are in a relationship, if you make a big change,

655
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: you may no longer be the person that your spouse married,

656
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I think that breaks

657
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 4: a lot of people up. I think it's also a

658
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 4: tradition that's not for everyone, and some people feel pressured

659
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 4: to be a part of it. But as far as

660
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 4: what makes it work for us, Sarah and I were

661
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: friends first. She knew what kind of man I was.

662
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 4: I knew what kind of woman she was. And then

663
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: when we started dating, there was no honeymoon period because

664
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 4: our friendship was that so it was trust was easier

665
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: to come by. I already knew her faults, right, she

666
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 4: already knew my faults. She knew God told her. I

667
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 4: was like, look, I'm gonna playing video games till I'm sixty,

668
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 4: Like I don't, I don't care if you think that sucks,

669
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 4: that's too bad for you. We won't go out, I promise,

670
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 4: And so she was like yeah, cool, She's like I

671
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 4: like reality TV don't talk shit about it. I'm like,

672
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 4: right on, do your thing. So we don't shit all

673
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 4: over each other, which is what I think is priority one.

674
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 4: We still make one another laugh, which is priority to

675
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 4: And I still think she's hot and she still thinks

676
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 4: I'm you know, moderately he's looking. So all that aside.

677
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 4: You know, have a skill they don't. You know, she

678
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 4: can't cook. I can. So she can't get rid of

679
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: me unless she wants her food cost to go over.

680
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: I'll marry you for that.

681
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, you ain't the first guy to tell me that either.

682
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: What are kind of some of the pitfalls though?

683
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: Being a Hollywood couple that, let's say, the rest of

684
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: America doesn't really have to.

685
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 4: Deal with people wanting to fuck you twenty four hours

686
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: a day. That takes to be a problem. You look

687
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 4: at that. The reason why most of these relationships break

688
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 4: up is because somebody's screwing somebody else, you know what

689
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 4: I mean. So I think there's a lot more opportunity

690
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: for fame. I mean maybe I'm not supposed to say this,

691
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 4: but like that's the way it is. Like people see

692
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: famous people and they just look at them differently, and

693
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 4: there's a lot more opportunity for those people to cheat,

694
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 4: and it's more often men than women, at least that's

695
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 4: what is released in the media. So that's I'll go

696
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,239
Speaker 4: with that. I don't know if women are out there

697
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 4: as horny as men are or not, but you know

698
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 4: that goes to maybe you shouldn't have got married in

699
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 4: the first place because you know yourself. And if you

700
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: don't know yourself, I'm telling you you're gonna change even

701
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 4: when you do. Like, I'm not the same guy I

702
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: was ten years ago, not even close, and compared to

703
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 4: when I was twenty, I was one of the dumbest

704
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: sons of bitches on earth at twenty one years old.

705
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 4: I'm forty seven now and just figured out, Wow, pretty stupid.

706
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: I got to learn some more shit, you know what

707
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 4: I mean. But I thought I had it in my thirties.

708
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 4: I was like, got it, We're good, don't need any

709
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 4: more advice. And then hit like thirty five and was

710
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 4: like talking to my godfather every other day, like what

711
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 4: am I doing with my life? Was? Is this a mistake?

712
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 4: Should I not have retired? He should? Why didn't I

713
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 4: join the WWE? Was that stupid? He's like, no, that

714
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 4: was your dream you loved it. You actually got to

715
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 4: like help some of those guys and girls like, yeah,

716
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 4: all right, so you know I'm still working it out today. Wow.

717
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: Man, that's the definitely hits for me. It definitely hits

718
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: home for me.

719
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: It does. We'll humble each other.

720
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: Hey, as goes, I just got engaged. I'm fifty three.

721
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: Congrats, would you wait it? Good?

722
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 2: I had I had a couple bad ones beforehand, but

723
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: I think in the past, who I would sabotage and

724
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: push everybody away?

725
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: I didn't feel worthy.

726
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 4: Men didn't do that a lot, especially men that struggle

727
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 4: for success. That's like a very big Sigmund Freud thing

728
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 4: is men who who become hyper successful but struggled for

729
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 4: that success often have self worth issues and it bleeds

730
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: into sexual relationships and and loving relationships things like that.

731
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 4: So that's normal. That's just normal shit.

732
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: And this girl names Rosie Tennis and she Peter her

733
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: sister Renee Tennis, and they were the doublement twins back

734
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: in the day Get out of Town. Yeah yeah, yeah,

735
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: they'd have been in a business.

736
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: And if one of them is like, hey, I'm busy,

737
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 4: I don't want to hurt day's feelings were taking.

738
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: It's hard to tell when they're in saw you because

739
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: you can't. Like they talk exactly the same, they sound

740
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: exactly the same, they look exactly same.

741
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: Renee parks are hair in the middle, Rosie, my girl

742
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: parts are hair side.

743
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 4: Thank god.

744
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: It's bad, yes, but it's bad.

745
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: And like I'll kind of go in, you know, grab

746
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: the wrong hand or going for the wrong hass cheet

747
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: by accident, so rung on.

748
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: That's it on.

749
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: But they're used to it though they're used.

750
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Rosie, also we're together for beforehand we split

751
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: because I did push away and I wasn't. But that,

752
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: like you're saying, you went at thirty five and said,

753
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: am I gonna learn.

754
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: Some new stuff? At fifty two, I said, I really

755
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 3: got to go learn some new things and learn that

756
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: I'm worthy of this that you know, the grain doesn't

757
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 3: deserve to beat me my depression anxiety don't. They can't win.

758
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: They're not going to set the stage for the rest

759
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: of my life.

760
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: And it's it's a fight, but you need the tool.

761
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 4: A lot of people don't have the tools to fight it,

762
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 4: and that's why they feel like they're losing all the time.

763
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: And that's why I encourage my friends to get help.

764
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 4: If if venting to me is not working, then you know,

765
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: find a doctor, or find a counselor find somebody that

766
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: can help give you the weapons you need to fight

767
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 4: this fight, because it's a legit fight. People that suffer

768
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 4: with it I have, you know what I mean, And

769
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: it's questioning yourself damages your soul. Man. When it damages

770
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 4: your soul, and if you do it too much, it's irreparable.

771
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 4: So you have you gotta get it in check. You

772
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: gotta get it in check, man, because your soul is

773
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 4: what grants you success. Your soul is when it's as

774
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 4: dark and horrible and bad as it is. Your soul

775
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 4: is either the drill sergeant that's like, get up now,

776
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 4: you're not done, or it's that nurturing you know, mother

777
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: type figure where it's like you're gonna be okay. This

778
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: is bad, but pain is temporary. Tomorrow's a new day,

779
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 4: you know it. But it's one or the other. Right,

780
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 4: Maybe somebody out there has another version of it, but

781
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 4: for me, that's what it's. So, Yeah, you gotta that

782
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 4: talking shit to yourself. There's enough people that'll find it

783
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 4: to hate you. You don't need to.

784
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

785
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the romance in my head didn't talk nice with

786
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: each other and still don't. But now I'm not how

787
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: to handle him better. And for the first time I

788
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: felt worthy and that's why it Hey, it's never too late,

789
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: That's right, It's never too late, man.

790
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Yeah, that's big time.

791
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: Before I let you go, get two more things.

792
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: I want to talk about your podcast and to hit

793
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: you on your unbreakable moment. So we talked about wrestling

794
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: with Freddie tell us about that.

795
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: You gotta have me on that one time.

796
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 4: Look, dude, if you love wrestling, man, come on. I

797
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: grew up loving it, and I mean loving. I only

798
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 4: like the bad guys because they were the ones who

799
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 4: won on free TV, the pay per views. Hey right,

800
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 4: and we were broke, so I wasn't gonna add it.

801
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: But when I walked away from the business in seven,

802
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 4: I randomly took a job, and I mean randomly took

803
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 4: a job for WWE and I worked there for two

804
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 4: years and worked directly with talent. Flew to every single

805
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 4: or drove to every single show. I was crazy disciplined.

806
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 4: Then I started a family walked away. The first season

807
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: of the podcast was my experience there and now it's

808
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 4: more my perspective on the business today and who I love.

809
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 4: And then we go on side quests as things happened

810
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 4: that remind me of crazy stories that happened. But it's

811
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 4: just more storytelling. It it's heart and it's called.

812
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah pray man, that's fan. Like I said, I was wrestling.

813
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 4: He won.

814
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 2: The Rock wrote the forward to my book Rocket Yeah yep,

815
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: which which is great.

816
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 4: Sarah made a movie with The Rock that both of

817
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 4: them hate that it was not a good movie, but

818
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 4: he was. He took so many big swings in it,

819
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 4: and you can really like watch the development of that

820
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 4: dude's career from Scorpion King to where he is now.

821
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: Same with Batista. You can really see the growth in

822
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: both those guys.

823
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, Dwayne and I did five years and Ballers together.

824
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 4: Rock.

825
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: I play my normal dickhead self, so I was great,

826
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: and just just because how much I.

827
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: Fuck with him, they kept going, Oh yeah, k let's

828
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: keep it in, Let's keep it in, Let's keep it in.

829
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 4: That's great. My a d D.

830
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: I can't remember scripts, so I would just kind of

831
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: do my own wing it.

832
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's long with the actors around you can

833
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 4: hang then it's all good.

834
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: But I got a lot of.

835
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: Friends in that business man, and you know te Stan

836
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: and Mark Henriey and the Big Show, and.

837
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 4: Mark's the best. Yeah, isn't a free good best? Man?

838
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 4: I love that so much.

839
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: He watched it Unbreakable and he says, hey, man, any

840
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: chance you got a fifty four shorts around here?

841
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, fuck would have a fifty four shorts laying.

842
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 4: Around There's not that much cotton in the pound him.

843
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: He said, hey, fifty four in a waist, sexy in

844
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: a face, that's right.

845
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 3: That sums him up.

846
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: Man.

847
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: So hey, before I let you go, I ask all

848
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 2: my guess this, give.

849
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: Me your unbreakable moment.

850
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: One thing in life, man, that could have broken you,

851
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: should have broken you, but it didn't, and as a result,

852
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: you came through the other side of that tunnel stronger forever.

853
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we touched on it earlier because I

854
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: definitely there's nothing unbreakable about me. Being breakable is what

855
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 4: keeps me sharp, It's what keeps me focused, It's what

856
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 4: keeps me disciplined. Knowing that all this precious life, everything

857
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 4: I have, it can all be gone in a moment's

858
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: notice if life doesn't turn out the way it's supposed to.

859
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 4: So every time those moments come, I really try to

860
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 4: be prepared for him. When I decided to move to

861
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 4: Los Angeles and pursue this business, that was one of

862
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 4: those make or break moments. I could have quit. I

863
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 4: could have given up. I hated being told no. I

864
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 4: hated being told I wasn't good enough. I hated having

865
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 4: bad auditions when I knew I had a better performance

866
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: somewhere inside me. I just couldn't get it out at

867
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 4: that moment. I have moments in the car where I

868
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 4: wanted to turn around and be like, no, give me

869
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 4: one more chance. But you can't do that. It's so unprofessional.

870
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: So there were times where I was ready to walk away.

871
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 4: And then you know, it was that discipline from my godfather,

872
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 4: you know, and those BS quotes that he would always

873
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 4: hit me with. I'm in control of my actions and

874
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 4: my reactions to the actions of others, and so every

875
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 4: no I heard, I just had to control the way

876
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 4: that made me feel. And it was all right, you

877
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 4: don't think I'm good enough, You'll see. And the next

878
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 4: time I went in I made sure I was better.

879
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 4: I had to hustle, I had to lie. I did

880
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 4: everything I could to get as many auditions and as

881
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: much experience as I could so that when those big

882
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 4: dogs called me in they couldn't talk shit like they

883
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 4: would have. They wouldn't be able to deny me, and

884
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 4: eventually I broke through. You know, I had to wait

885
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 4: for skeet Alric to be busy because we popped at

886
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 4: the same time. But once he booked a move, I

887
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: was like, all right, there's gonna be six opportunities. I

888
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 4: got to get one of them.

889
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: See, I want to correct you because you said you're

890
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: not unbreakable. You're unbreakable because there's a lot of things

891
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: that could have broken, but you.

892
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: Didn't stay down.

893
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, in the permanent Sten, it's one hundred percent.

894
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: I am right.

895
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more.

896
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: He man, I appreciate you, brother, Thank you so much again.

897
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 2: Wrestling with Freddy as Wrestling Podcast. Make sure everybody here

898
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: tunes into that.

899
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: Dude can't thank you enough.

900
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 4: Man.

901
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 2: You know, hopefully you and I can break some bread

902
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: and man shit have Straham won't get his ass back

903
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: at her.

904
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 3: You can teach me I'm a shirt not a problem.

905
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 4: Man. We live pretty close to each other. So wow, man,

906
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: you and to all your listeners, it's a fight every day,

907
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 4: so put your hands up.

908
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: Love it. Freddy Prince Junior, thank you, my dude.

909
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Speaker 4: Yeah man, my pleasure.