Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets podcast Busy
Speaker 1: Week here at one Jet Strive. We're recording on today's Thursday,
Speaker 1: September two. It's crazy to think that it's already September.
Speaker 1: From Monday to current to right now, the Jets have
Speaker 1: made fifty two roster moves, which is really standard around
Speaker 1: for this time of year. I saw you had just
Speaker 1: written that on New York Jets dot Com and I
Speaker 1: was wondering, first off, is that accurate? And second off,
Speaker 1: did you count them? Well? I was thinking there were
Speaker 1: twenty seven moves made for Waves Slash Release and putting
Speaker 1: Kyle Phillips on I R, so that's twenty seven. Then
Speaker 1: you have the thirteen practice Squad edition. Then you had
Speaker 1: the three the three players that were placed on I
Speaker 1: R and the three re signings. Then you had the
Speaker 1: two claimed and the two waved. So I added all
Speaker 1: that up and I got fifty two. I was quickly
Speaker 1: adding that up in my head. I thought I got
Speaker 1: the fifty, but you're probably right and the two trades,
Speaker 1: that's right. So Joe Douglas and the staff very busy.
Speaker 1: I think it's just a busy time of year. Which
Speaker 1: is it? What is interesting about this point of the
Speaker 1: calendar is that typically over the years, and you know this,
Speaker 1: we cover transactions, the flurry of moves right before Labor
Speaker 1: Day weekend, I mean, on approaching Labor Day, that weekend,
Speaker 1: approaching Labor Day. But in contrast here this year, you're
Speaker 1: doing it in the middle of the week. It's kind
Speaker 1: of nice, Like from a workflow perspective, it's pretty nice
Speaker 1: to get it done during the week. Obviously, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be transactions throughout the course of the season almost every
Speaker 1: day of the week except for Sundays or game days, really,
Speaker 1: but I liked it, and there's a lot to get into.
Speaker 1: I think we should just dive right in with bless Austin,
Speaker 1: because I think that's probably one of you know, people say, oh,
Speaker 1: like there's always surprise cuts every year, and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe not internally, but if you're looking at the Jets roster,
Speaker 1: I think people would be surprised to hear that Bless
Speaker 1: Austin was let go, especially because he's been a starter
Speaker 1: for this team the past two years and he was
Speaker 1: the longest tenure Jet in that cornerback round, Robert Salis
Speaker 1: said it, this is the toughest part of the business.
Speaker 1: You hate to say, hey, you know, we're not going
Speaker 1: to be needing your services anymore. And to bless, Austin
Speaker 1: has a lot of local ties, right He grew up
Speaker 1: in New York, played at Rutgers, then was a draft
Speaker 1: pick here and I think a lot of fans gravitated
Speaker 1: towards him, and he had an opportunity here early in
Speaker 1: training camp. But throughout the summer, sala and anybody you
Speaker 1: talked to said, hey, listen, it's an open competition at
Speaker 1: the cornerback position. And this just emphasized that even more
Speaker 1: that move here. The Jets are undergoing a youth movement.
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas said it Wednesday here at Atlantic Health Jets
Speaker 1: Training Center that he believes what of this roster, our
Speaker 1: first and second year of players, and this just speaks
Speaker 1: to the Jets want to get a longer look at
Speaker 1: Brandon Knuckles, who made the team out of Kentucky, a rookie,
Speaker 1: Isaiah Done and undrafted free agent Oregon State who made
Speaker 1: the team. Javelin Guidry, a second year player who we
Speaker 1: saw most of the time worked inside, but Salom mentioned
Speaker 1: him uh potentially in that race as well. And then
Speaker 1: who am I forgetting, of course, another draft pick Pinnocks.
Speaker 1: So listen you, I don't know the way you felt,
Speaker 1: but all along I felt like there wasn't a clear
Speaker 1: pecking order that all those guys were making a run there.
Speaker 1: I definitely agree with that. It didn't ever feel like
Speaker 1: there was two guys were like, those are the two guys,
Speaker 1: and you know who's gonna make a name for themselves
Speaker 1: as a reserve. And it felt like throughout camp, a
Speaker 1: lot of people like at first it was Equals and Done,
Speaker 1: then Done got hurt. Equals was a little banged up,
Speaker 1: but he really played through, you know, he was I
Speaker 1: don't think he ever really missed an extended period of time.
Speaker 1: Pinnock had that bruise knee for a little bit, and Equals,
Speaker 1: you felt like he definitely made plays in practice and
Speaker 1: then he had to pick against the Packers in the
Speaker 1: preseason game. And remember against the Giants, he had that
Speaker 1: past defense when he ran down whoever the receiver was
Speaker 1: and he batted it away and Salo was praising him
Speaker 1: for his intellect on that play because that wasn't supposed
Speaker 1: to be his man, but he saw the play in
Speaker 1: real time. You know, I thought that I thought that
Speaker 1: Equals had an impressive camp and couple that with what
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas said yesterday, I thought this was very interesting.
Speaker 1: He said, instead of asking Blessed to take a reduced role,
Speaker 1: we're giving these guys, the young guys, an opportunity, and
Speaker 1: out of respect to bless we're giving him an opportunity
Speaker 1: to find a larger role with the new team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no period to end to bless his sentence right
Speaker 1: now in his professional career, there's a comma and then
Speaker 1: we'll have to see where his story goes from here. Again,
Speaker 1: the jetice wanted to get longer looks at other players.
Speaker 1: They're very young at the cornerback position. We're going to
Speaker 1: continue to talk about that throughout the year. Interesting as
Speaker 1: far as the waiver claims, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people probably anticipate that we're gonna go veteran cornerback or yes,
Speaker 1: definitely veteran cornerback. I know that Jimmy Moreland was the
Speaker 1: name that was thrown out there, and the Jets didn't
Speaker 1: end up claiming veteran cornerback. Instead, they claimed two players,
Speaker 1: both defensive players. One guy Timmy Ward, former Kansas City
Speaker 1: chief The other one Quincy Williams, who is the older
Speaker 1: brother of Jets defensive tackle Quinnin Williams. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: great story, and I think it's fascinating because he's actually
Speaker 1: older than Quinnin, but a very good athlete, and Sala
Speaker 1: raved about his length at that position. You know, the
Speaker 1: Jets love length at the linebacker position, so it's gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting to see him him come in here. And
Speaker 1: Ward is a guy who, by all accounts is and
Speaker 1: athletic freak, and I think the Chiefs wanted him back
Speaker 1: as far as putting him on the practice squad. But
Speaker 1: when you put somebody on waivers, you expose yourself, right,
Speaker 1: That's part of the gymnastics though, and I saw I
Speaker 1: think it was rich a meany to you about it
Speaker 1: that when the Jets let go of Ryan Griffin and
Speaker 1: Dan Brown and Schrod and Easeman and they brought all
Speaker 1: those guys back. Those are veterans who aren't um exposed
Speaker 1: to the waiver system. So let's say, let's say there
Speaker 1: was a player that you wanted to bring back to
Speaker 1: your practice squad for whatever reason, and you you release
Speaker 1: a player, which means you have more than you have
Speaker 1: five years or more of experience in the NFL. That
Speaker 1: means that that player has the right to choose with
Speaker 1: whatever team he wants to sign with. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: difference between being released and waves because most of the
Speaker 1: people just put it undo the Dombrala cut. But you
Speaker 1: just properly described that. You know, when you get waived,
Speaker 1: teams are taking on your contract, but when you get released,
Speaker 1: you're out there. Well, I think to use a Jets example,
Speaker 1: the Jets on Tuesday let go of both Josh Johnson
Speaker 1: and James Morgan. Josh Johnson, having multiple seasons under his belt,
Speaker 1: was straight up released and now consigned anywhere, right, and
Speaker 1: he resigned with the Jets practice squad. A great point.
Speaker 1: So I want to get back to the blessed here
Speaker 1: in a second, but I wanted to get your thoughts
Speaker 1: on the quarterback position because everybody's like, well, Jack Wilson,
Speaker 1: of course, has never taken a snap in the regular
Speaker 1: season in the National Football League, is being backed up
Speaker 1: by Mike White, a third year player has never taken
Speaker 1: a snap in the National Football League. But don't you
Speaker 1: consider Josh Johnson, a veteran, arm experienced guy who's played
Speaker 1: in the National Football league on a number of occasions
Speaker 1: in the regular season. Yeah, he's not on the active
Speaker 1: but can call him up at any time. Right, That's
Speaker 1: the unique part of the practice squad rules. It's the
Speaker 1: same thing as two thousand twenty where you can elevate
Speaker 1: or promote a player two players per week from the
Speaker 1: practice squad to the active roster, and they automatically revert
Speaker 1: right back to the practice squad following the game. So
Speaker 1: the game they roster essentially is fifty five for everybody
Speaker 1: if they take advantage of that rule. And I think
Speaker 1: it's a benefit to teams. And there's all these little
Speaker 1: intricacies with the practice squad and the rules and protecting players,
Speaker 1: and players can sign to another team's fifty three man roster,
Speaker 1: but they can't sign to another practice squad. We could
Speaker 1: have a whole podcast on that. You mentioned the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: real quick, what do you think of James Morgan going
Speaker 1: to Carolina's practice squad? Well, Joe Douglas said, the head
Speaker 1: conversations with Morrigan following that cut down, and it sounded
Speaker 1: like the Jets were interested in bringing him back, and
Speaker 1: Carolina jumped in and is there gamesmanship involved? Yes, to
Speaker 1: a certain extent. We saw that a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago with David's Webb right, the Jets is very similar situation.
Speaker 1: The Jets wave Davis Webb, and of course the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills pick them up. And who is the Jets Week
Speaker 1: one opponent the Bills? The one thing I think there's
Speaker 1: one difference in this scenario, and I think it's kind
Speaker 1: of important to point out at the point in which
Speaker 1: the Jets released or wave Davis Webb, because there were
Speaker 1: four preseason games they might have already started. You know,
Speaker 1: I have a deeper dive into scouting the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: at that time and creating a game plan. I'm not
Speaker 1: so sure about this time, because between final cuts and
Speaker 1: Week one there's almost two weeks involved there. Well, Salo
Speaker 1: talked about that the other day. They're gonna turn their
Speaker 1: focus to Carolina at what Wednesday's practice. I'm getting the
Speaker 1: days they're all running together right now, but the Jet
Speaker 1: to work out here Sunday, right, Sunday, Monday day off,
Speaker 1: Tuesday to take care of all your transactions, and on
Speaker 1: Wednesday Thursday. So you're right, their focus didn't really shift
Speaker 1: to Carolina until Wednesday. But James Morgan probably knows a
Speaker 1: thing or two about verbal cues and audibles. He might
Speaker 1: know that. I mean, you might have to change your calls.
Speaker 1: I think that's life in NFL, right, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: sure if you're talking to the Jets over beer, and
Speaker 1: maybe maybe people are rolling their eyes about it a
Speaker 1: little bit, but hey, listen, Morrigan's taking an opportunity in Carolina.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, anytime we release the player, anytime we
Speaker 1: wave a player, anything can happen. Yeah, it's a great point.
Speaker 1: So not only were there releases waiver claims. We talked
Speaker 1: about those practice squad a little bit. How about trades.
Speaker 1: Jets had executed two trades this week. Let's start with
Speaker 1: Chris Herndon tight end is kind of a weird position
Speaker 1: this week with all the roster gymnastics. You let go
Speaker 1: of Ryan Griffin and Dan Brown, you bring you bring
Speaker 1: them both back, but in that window where they were
Speaker 1: before they were brought back, Chris Hernan officially gets straight
Speaker 1: into the Minnesota Vikings for a two thousand, twenty two
Speaker 1: fourth round pick, and the Jets gave up a two
Speaker 1: thousand six round pick. Well, much like bless Austin, you
Speaker 1: you're gonna wish Chris Herndon. Well, here, both those guys
Speaker 1: are good dudes, um, young players who have had some
Speaker 1: level of success in the National Football League. I think
Speaker 1: with Herndon, he had like thirty nine receptions this rookie season,
Speaker 1: over five hundred yards receiving. Second year was really tough
Speaker 1: hit of suspension and a hamstring injury, and then he
Speaker 1: comes and plays against the Giants midseason breaks Ribby's out
Speaker 1: for the year, So that's basically the entire second season
Speaker 1: as a wash. Then the third season he came on,
Speaker 1: I thought down the stretch felt quiet early in the season.
Speaker 1: I think he finished with thirty one receptions lad year.
Speaker 1: He got an end zone three times. So here you go.
Speaker 1: We were wondering, being out there in the practice field
Speaker 1: every session, whether it was here or in Green Bay,
Speaker 1: where did Herndon fit on this team? Because it seemed
Speaker 1: like Tyler Croft and Ryan Griffin when he was healthy,
Speaker 1: those were your two top tight ends. And if you
Speaker 1: were going to keep Dan Brown, he would stay in
Speaker 1: that special team's role. The Jets like his athleticism as well. Um,
Speaker 1: and then you kept Kenny a Ball on the practice squad.
Speaker 1: So there's a young development player. So where did Hernon
Speaker 1: fit into all of that? So Vikings rash injuries of
Speaker 1: the position, you send a six to them along with Herndon,
Speaker 1: and I thought you got great value there in four.
Speaker 1: I agree, And you think about what kind of capital
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas now has rounds one through four in two
Speaker 1: thousand and twenty two just a rifle through him. Two
Speaker 1: first round picks their own in Seattle's, two second round
Speaker 1: picks their own in Carolina's, one third round pick, and
Speaker 1: two fourth round picks Carolina's and now Minnesota is because
Speaker 1: the Jets traded away their two thousand fourth round pick
Speaker 1: to the Seattle Seahawks with Jamal Adam. Yeah, so my
Speaker 1: great job by Joe d again, because as we sit
Speaker 1: here today, can you tell me you were a hundred
Speaker 1: percent convinced that Herndon was making the roster. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he wasn't going to make the roster. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't sit here and tell you a hundred percent
Speaker 1: you would have put him on completely safe. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say a hundred percent at all. It was we played
Speaker 1: the numbers game too right, obviously, like Joe Douglas and
Speaker 1: his staff and the coaching staff they collaborate. But when
Speaker 1: we're out at practice every day and we start reading
Speaker 1: the tea leaves of who who's playing well, who's been
Speaker 1: kind of quiet, then you think about the tight ends room,
Speaker 1: and we didn't even talk about Trayvon Westco. I know
Speaker 1: he's listed as a tight end, but it's important to
Speaker 1: notice that we didn't talk about the fullback. He's the fullback.
Speaker 1: I think it's important though that we distinguished because he's
Speaker 1: technically a tight end, but he really is the team's fullback.
Speaker 1: So I think that with Hernon and that whole room,
Speaker 1: it was somebody was going to be the odd man out,
Speaker 1: and for the Jets to get a fourth round pick
Speaker 1: and return for Chris Hernon and make that decision probably
Speaker 1: a little easier for Joe Douglas and his staff, I
Speaker 1: think it was a great move. And you have now
Speaker 1: more draft capital in two thousand and twenty two, so
Speaker 1: I think it was a good move. The other trade
Speaker 1: was involved a sixth round pick, but the Jets give
Speaker 1: up a six round pick that they got last year
Speaker 1: for Jordan Willis actually got traded to San Francisco forty
Speaker 1: niners where Salo was, and the Jets got back Shack
Speaker 1: Lawson from the Texans. Lawson former first round pick out
Speaker 1: of Clemson. Joe Douglas said he brings a junkyard dog
Speaker 1: mentality that defensive line. Even without Carl Lawson, the Jets
Speaker 1: still have plenty of confidence in this defensive line. I
Speaker 1: think he needed somebody there after loss and went down. Now,
Speaker 1: Jack laws is a different player than Carl Lawson, um,
Speaker 1: but Douglas and sal is the same way. They're not
Speaker 1: gonna feel sorry for themselves because they've lost a potential
Speaker 1: double digit sack. Guy is absolutely devastating blow, but the
Speaker 1: train is still going to leave the tracks Week one
Speaker 1: in Carolina. Loss in is guy who not only can
Speaker 1: help your rushing the quarterback. He's not as explosive as
Speaker 1: a Carl Lawson, but he's also gonna help you as
Speaker 1: far as his run defense. He's a real good run stopper.
Speaker 1: And I know that isn't going to win a lot
Speaker 1: of headlines out there, but unique guys like that. So
Speaker 1: he's gonna give you some push in the past game.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be good in the locker room. He's gonna
Speaker 1: help you against the run, don't you think it. I
Speaker 1: think the reaction when the Jets traded for Shack Lawson,
Speaker 1: was like, this is the guy that you're getting for
Speaker 1: Carl Awson. I think it's a great point. You can't
Speaker 1: just replace Carl Lawson one for one unless you were
Speaker 1: like swinging for the fences. And Bart Scott was sitting
Speaker 1: here once, you know, a couple of weeks ago, and
Speaker 1: he was like, look, you just get a you know,
Speaker 1: a tier A guy you like, you don't make a
Speaker 1: move unless it's not. But I'm gonna challenge that because
Speaker 1: the Jets also lost Vinnie Curry. And I think that
Speaker 1: when you look at Vinnie curry stats, which is what
Speaker 1: I'm pulling up right here, past two years, he had
Speaker 1: eight sacks three and two thousand twenty five and two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, two and a half the year before that.
Speaker 1: You look at Shack Lawson, he's younger than Vinny Curry.
Speaker 1: He's still got years left on his contract because he
Speaker 1: was traded from the Dolphins to the Texans in the
Speaker 1: off season after signing with the Dolphins in two thousand
Speaker 1: twenty and he had four sacks last year and six
Speaker 1: and a half the year before that, and four before that.
Speaker 1: So when you look at I'm just using Vinny Curry
Speaker 1: as an example their sack production in a vacuum. The
Speaker 1: last three years, Shack Lawson has been a more productive
Speaker 1: player in that sense. I'm not saying he's a better player.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think the swap there was. People
Speaker 1: I think are saying, Shack Lawson and Carl Lawson. You
Speaker 1: know it's never gonna be one, You're right, But I
Speaker 1: think the one for one is more along the lines
Speaker 1: of Lawson and Curry. John Franklin Myers is really gonna
Speaker 1: be in the spotlight this year where you thought that
Speaker 1: he could really benefit from Carl Lawson because Loss is
Speaker 1: gonna be pushing that one edge and then you have
Speaker 1: those big guys in the middle and uh JF I'm
Speaker 1: is gonna get those opportunities. Well jfm um, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be the guy counted on big time this year. And
Speaker 1: then let's not forget about Bryce Hoff. Bryce Huff had
Speaker 1: a very good summer last year. He had a couple
Speaker 1: of sacks, a couple of sacks again in the preseason.
Speaker 1: He was buzzing the tower here throughout training camp. He
Speaker 1: brings an element to explosion, so he'll be part of
Speaker 1: your sub packages. As well. But I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: The guy that I'm really excited about on that defensive line,
Speaker 1: who I don't think we talked about enough. I think
Speaker 1: I know where you're gonna go with this. Yeah, selling Rankins,
Speaker 1: Man selling Rankins next to Quinnin Williams, watch Out, Watch Out.
Speaker 1: I think Rankins is ready to do some damage. His
Speaker 1: body type is very interesting, you know, I don't the
Speaker 1: Jets have the old school, very large run stuffer defensive
Speaker 1: tackle full Aronzo Vardakasi, but then you look at Quinnin.
Speaker 1: You know, it is one of my favorite quotes. I
Speaker 1: know it's probably outdated at this point. Jonah Williams, the
Speaker 1: Alabama tackle, described Quentin Williams as a three hundred pound
Speaker 1: bar of soap because he's so slippery as a defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: And you know it's true because you think of Quinn
Speaker 1: and he's not a towering presence, but he is, well,
Speaker 1: how did Robert Salad describe him? All mass? Not all gas?
Speaker 1: All mass? And you look at Sheldon Ranking and he's not. Again,
Speaker 1: you're prototypical defensive tackle in the sense of like old school,
Speaker 1: but he really seems like he packs a punch too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think He's got a wide arsenal as far
Speaker 1: as his moves and the way he can use his hands.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't play the game at the defensive
Speaker 1: tackle position in the National Football League, but Les Douzable did,
Speaker 1: and I love getting his thoughts on what he sees
Speaker 1: from the defensivelignement going in the trenches and the way
Speaker 1: they apply techniques and Rankin's goot, he's got a lot
Speaker 1: of clubs in the back. You know what I find
Speaker 1: very impressive in terms of leg during the game. In
Speaker 1: real time, I'm on Twitter and I'm seeing, you know,
Speaker 1: people tweet about the Jets the things that he catches
Speaker 1: as a former player, like it's outstanding to me, and
Speaker 1: and what he catches is usually very vital to the
Speaker 1: result of the play, where you know, somebody might say, oh,
Speaker 1: that's bad coverage and that guy was open, like how
Speaker 1: do he get so open? And Leger in real time
Speaker 1: will be like, no, you know that guy got picked
Speaker 1: and you know he should have done this. Whatever it's
Speaker 1: I find it very interesting by the way making his
Speaker 1: return to one jet strive or you know, I don't
Speaker 1: want to say one to drive and get it confused
Speaker 1: with the show not talking about the show. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the building. We can't even say the address. We can't,
Speaker 1: but you know, I just wanted to make sure that
Speaker 1: there was no confusion here to go a glimpse of
Speaker 1: wat's to come. Lejay Douzable making his return here to
Speaker 1: the Jets three six while he's gonna help us out
Speaker 1: on the official Deaths podcast. Do you have a great
Speaker 1: podcast coming up? A game preview podcast that people are
Speaker 1: gonna be able to tune into and listen to weekly
Speaker 1: and or listen to weekly. But Douzable also is going
Speaker 1: to be making an appearance on our Sunday morning show
Speaker 1: on CBS, which I don't know if we've released the
Speaker 1: name publicly, so I don't know if I can do
Speaker 1: it here just yet. All right, that's fair. Just just
Speaker 1: just keep gonna be part of our content. So that's
Speaker 1: definitely a big ad. Because we already got the mad backers,
Speaker 1: so we got we got all levels of defense. Because
Speaker 1: you start with dudes and then you go back, you
Speaker 1: need a linebacker. You got Bart Scott, and then you
Speaker 1: needed a safety. We got Eric Coleman. We were covered
Speaker 1: defensively offense. I don't know if we have the same,
Speaker 1: the same levels that the defense has defense and championships. Well,
Speaker 1: we got nick man Goold and there might be another
Speaker 1: former Jets quarterback coming to Jets programming in two tho one.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if we don't have we don't
Speaker 1: have a tailback, right, No, I don't think so. We
Speaker 1: do have Lee on Washington. He's just all he's just
Speaker 1: a coach. Yeah, we could bring him upstairs, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Getting back to what you said about dudes and what
Speaker 1: he watches and things like that, is that the cornerback position.
Speaker 1: We started the show talking about the cornerback position. I
Speaker 1: think what Salo wants to see is can you win
Speaker 1: on third down? And the anticipation from everybody is a
Speaker 1: lot of cover too. We cover three back there and
Speaker 1: who is going to be the guy? Ethan in Caroline
Speaker 1: think if we predict right now that Bryce Hall is
Speaker 1: starting outside, who will be lining up across the way
Speaker 1: outside the numbers and who's the first nickel up? Because
Speaker 1: you know that was a great competition throughout the summer.
Speaker 1: But Gidri, I guess he's got a chance at the
Speaker 1: outside and inside, I would say, assuming the roster stays
Speaker 1: put as it is, and there's no addition. My guess
Speaker 1: is that Brandon eccles is opposite Bryce Hall and Javelin
Speaker 1: Gidreys in the middle, unless or unless Gidri wins that job.
Speaker 1: On the outside that I think Michael Carter is in
Speaker 1: the nickel live speed at the cornerback position. All those
Speaker 1: guys you just mentioned could fly. You agree with me? Though?
Speaker 1: I asked Solo about Michael Carter's the other day I
Speaker 1: think it was Sunday, and I loved his answer because
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of you have on Giddre. He said,
Speaker 1: we have two starting Nickels on this team, and we
Speaker 1: have to find a way to get both of these
Speaker 1: guys on the field. So you're thinking Giddy on the outside, Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. You know that that could
Speaker 1: mean some dime action with both Carter and get out there,
Speaker 1: of course, but the Jets won't be lacking for speed
Speaker 1: on the outside if you have an Equals out there,
Speaker 1: if you have a Carter out there, if you have
Speaker 1: a kid Dree. You know those guys, You know those
Speaker 1: guys can burn. Those are all sub four four guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Jets much faster in the secondary, for sure. You
Speaker 1: know what it's um before we wrap up here is
Speaker 1: areny you're wrapping up already. We're not talking in any offense.
Speaker 1: We can how many minutes in are we were not
Speaker 1: talking about Zack Wilson at all? We're almost dirty. Were
Speaker 1: you surprised he made the team? No? I thought he
Speaker 1: had a good chance of making the team. I loved
Speaker 1: what Joe Douglas said about another day because we've heard
Speaker 1: solo all along saying that we love this kid's process
Speaker 1: right now, that he never makes the same mistake twice,
Speaker 1: that he can't get enough, that he's going across the
Speaker 1: room and talking to the defensive staff in terms of
Speaker 1: what are they looking at? Um? So you know, he's
Speaker 1: one of those kids who, uh, Wilson, There's gonna be
Speaker 1: moments where he's still in the one on one class,
Speaker 1: but he's certainly trended into three oh one, five oh one,
Speaker 1: and that's what you want from the quarterback. But Joe
Speaker 1: Douglas said it the other day, and he didn't have
Speaker 1: to say this. He's that everything we'd hoped he would be.
Speaker 1: You know, I've really that's a hell of a compliment.
Speaker 1: It is. I actually thought another big time compliment came
Speaker 1: from Greg Van Rote and when he said Zack Wilson
Speaker 1: is only a rookie by name, meaning like it's just
Speaker 1: his first year in the NFL. The rest of what
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson is on the field in the meeting rooms rookie,
Speaker 1: not one on one, seems like he's definitely advanced for
Speaker 1: where a typical rookie would be. Connor McGovern also said
Speaker 1: he's a gamer, like not taking shots as far as
Speaker 1: this practice habits, but he kind of turns it off.
Speaker 1: But notch. That's what you want from a guy slinging,
Speaker 1: you definitely do. And we Daniel Jeremiah and everybody says,
Speaker 1: you know, we got a glimpse of it in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: You can't do. You can't have a broken play turned
Speaker 1: explosive play in practice. That's just not how it works.
Speaker 1: It's scripted. But in a game, we kind of saw
Speaker 1: it with the Corey Davis twenty seven yard reception. There's
Speaker 1: a little bit there, and we'll see what happens when
Speaker 1: the lights really turned on in the regular season. But um,
Speaker 1: you know, the Jets aren't done with their roster. That
Speaker 1: was the point that I wanted to bring this full circle.
Speaker 1: They're really not done with the roster. We just saw
Speaker 1: a report today Jets are working out Ruben Foster at linebacker.
Speaker 1: So this is a continuous effort to improve your raw
Speaker 1: or whether it's September two like it is today, whether
Speaker 1: it's April, or whether it's July, it's sixty five days
Speaker 1: of the year. What are your thoughts as far as
Speaker 1: the running back and or wide receiver position is. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people were talking about how many
Speaker 1: UH numbers are you gonna keep at the wide receiver
Speaker 1: spot and what about the dynamic dynamic they're at running
Speaker 1: back now with Michael p Ryan a little bit banged up,
Speaker 1: you got Josh Adams on the practice squb. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start with the receivers. I think most people thought the
Speaker 1: Jets were gonna carry six receivers. I was definitely in
Speaker 1: that camp. Adding Jeff Smith as the seventh I think
Speaker 1: was the surprise. But Jeff Smith really, I thought, played
Speaker 1: well down the stretch for the Jets as well. And
Speaker 1: you think about what he did in practice the last
Speaker 1: week of training camp, and you know throughout he flashed
Speaker 1: at times, but really I think you saw what Jeff
Speaker 1: Smith brings in terms of speed and explosiveness. When in
Speaker 1: the final preseason game, the Jets handed the ball off
Speaker 1: to him on three end a rounds and he had
Speaker 1: positive plays and chunk games on each of those plays,
Speaker 1: he said he has speed to burn. In terms of
Speaker 1: the running backs, I'm not surprised by the way it
Speaker 1: shook out. My question is, are you on game day
Speaker 1: do you have all four active? Do you have three active?
Speaker 1: Because if you have all four active, you're really gonna
Speaker 1: put all four in the game at one point or another.
Speaker 1: Or is it gonna be one of those things where
Speaker 1: it depends on matchups and it depends on running how
Speaker 1: hot that player is heading into the game. I think
Speaker 1: that's the thing that fans should keep an eye. Let's
Speaker 1: just give a shout out to Josh Adams five point
Speaker 1: four yards to carry last year or five point yards
Speaker 1: to carry in the preseason. He's a guy who just
Speaker 1: constantly flies on his radar. I know he's on the
Speaker 1: practice squad, but the Jets really liked their backs. Final
Speaker 1: thought here for me would be speed. The need for
Speaker 1: speed that that's if constantly addressed that throughout the offseason.
Speaker 1: Now you see it with the roster. Let's go over
Speaker 1: all the positions we mentioned equals, We talked about kids.
Speaker 1: We we talked about um, who else on the outside
Speaker 1: that why is the name of Michael Carter playing in
Speaker 1: the nickel position. We talked about the transitions those guys
Speaker 1: are making down at the rookie linebacker position, from Jamie
Speaker 1: Sherwood and Homson Nosrel Dene. We go to the offensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball. You mentioned Jeff Smith, a sub
Speaker 1: four four guy who's been running a lot with the
Speaker 1: ones at the running back position. Ty Johnson a sub
Speaker 1: four four guy you drafted, Elijah Moore, a sub four
Speaker 1: four guy. What you're seeing here is the emphasis and
Speaker 1: not just Solacene play speed, but the combination of him
Speaker 1: and Joe Douglas coming together and saying there are certain
Speaker 1: attributes that we have to address here. The Jets are
Speaker 1: going to be noticeably a lot faster club this year.
Speaker 1: You know who else is a sub four or four
Speaker 1: player who we often don't think. Mims for three eight
Speaker 1: at the combine and he I feel bad for Denzel
Speaker 1: because he really, I think was starting to turn a corner,
Speaker 1: especially in the first preseason game. And Joe Douglas referenced that,
Speaker 1: I mean the effort he gave on that play where
Speaker 1: he showed a little strength, toughness, agility, and speed. It's
Speaker 1: very impressive. He's a long strider too, So Tavin Coleman
Speaker 1: is another guy who you know ranked last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he still can get out there in the open field.
Speaker 1: So I just think the Jets clearly went into the
Speaker 1: off season saying we have to be faster on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball, and Solom wants these guys to
Speaker 1: play fast. Um, you're gonna see that out there, and
Speaker 1: sometimes there's gonna be mistakes because it's such a young roster.
Speaker 1: And Joe Douglas said he's expecting ups and downs, but
Speaker 1: I think this team is going to be entertaining to
Speaker 1: watch throughout the season. I definitely agree, And we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens in a couple you know, it's it's really
Speaker 1: almost right around the corner, but you have this little
Speaker 1: you know, this nice little weekend, Labor Day weekend, and
Speaker 1: then we're really ramping up another notch, kind of like
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson what Connor McGovern said, it's game time. We
Speaker 1: ramp it up a notch. Next week. In terms of content,
Speaker 1: we're back with the podcast we got to coming down
Speaker 1: the pike next week at least, and I think that's
Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. And you got any Labor Day plans.
Speaker 1: I would imagine we'll be here Labor Day, but I
Speaker 1: met during the weekend college football got a wedding Saturday,
Speaker 1: and I'm hoping we can sneak out of there at
Speaker 1: a decent time because, like you mentioned, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of good college footballs up. I mean. But for us,
Speaker 1: when we get back here Monday, we're in the regular season.
Speaker 1: The regular season begins. Remember Pregame Central, we'll bring live
Speaker 1: uh next Sunday, somebody will be here inside the bet
Speaker 1: MGM stood, he'll probably both on us. And then we
Speaker 1: have Jets over Time. Our first place today praxt Today
Speaker 1: moves to a new time this year, Thursdays, so check that.
Speaker 1: Check that out a lot. We got a lot coming
Speaker 1: down the pike. But that's all we have on this
Speaker 1: episode of the Official Jets Podcast. Enjoy your Labor Day
Speaker 1: weekend and we'll see you next week.