1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets podcast Busy 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Week here at one Jet Strive. We're recording on today's Thursday, 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: September two. It's crazy to think that it's already September. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: From Monday to current to right now, the Jets have 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: made fifty two roster moves, which is really standard around 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: for this time of year. I saw you had just 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: written that on New York Jets dot Com and I 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: was wondering, first off, is that accurate? And second off, 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: did you count them? Well? I was thinking there were 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: twenty seven moves made for Waves Slash Release and putting 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Phillips on I R, so that's twenty seven. Then 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: you have the thirteen practice Squad edition. Then you had 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: the three the three players that were placed on I 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: R and the three re signings. Then you had the 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: two claimed and the two waved. So I added all 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: that up and I got fifty two. I was quickly 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: adding that up in my head. I thought I got 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: the fifty, but you're probably right and the two trades, 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: that's right. So Joe Douglas and the staff very busy. 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: I think it's just a busy time of year. Which 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: is it? What is interesting about this point of the 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: calendar is that typically over the years, and you know this, 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: we cover transactions, the flurry of moves right before Labor 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Day weekend, I mean, on approaching Labor Day, that weekend, 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: approaching Labor Day. But in contrast here this year, you're 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: doing it in the middle of the week. It's kind 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: of nice, Like from a workflow perspective, it's pretty nice 28 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: to get it done during the week. Obviously, there's gonna 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: be transactions throughout the course of the season almost every 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,639 Speaker 1: day of the week except for Sundays or game days, really, 31 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: but I liked it, and there's a lot to get into. 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: I think we should just dive right in with bless Austin, 33 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: because I think that's probably one of you know, people say, oh, 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: like there's always surprise cuts every year, and you know, 35 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: maybe not internally, but if you're looking at the Jets roster, 36 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: I think people would be surprised to hear that Bless 37 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: Austin was let go, especially because he's been a starter 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: for this team the past two years and he was 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: the longest tenure Jet in that cornerback round, Robert Salis 40 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: said it, this is the toughest part of the business. 41 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: You hate to say, hey, you know, we're not going 42 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: to be needing your services anymore. And to bless, Austin 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: has a lot of local ties, right He grew up 44 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: in New York, played at Rutgers, then was a draft 45 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: pick here and I think a lot of fans gravitated 46 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: towards him, and he had an opportunity here early in 47 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: training camp. But throughout the summer, sala and anybody you 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: talked to said, hey, listen, it's an open competition at 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: the cornerback position. And this just emphasized that even more 50 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: that move here. The Jets are undergoing a youth movement. 51 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas said it Wednesday here at Atlantic Health Jets 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: Training Center that he believes what of this roster, our 53 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: first and second year of players, and this just speaks 54 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: to the Jets want to get a longer look at 55 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: Brandon Knuckles, who made the team out of Kentucky, a rookie, 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: Isaiah Done and undrafted free agent Oregon State who made 57 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: the team. Javelin Guidry, a second year player who we 58 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: saw most of the time worked inside, but Salom mentioned 59 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: him uh potentially in that race as well. And then 60 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: who am I forgetting, of course, another draft pick Pinnocks. 61 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: So listen you, I don't know the way you felt, 62 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: but all along I felt like there wasn't a clear 63 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: pecking order that all those guys were making a run there. 64 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: I definitely agree with that. It didn't ever feel like 65 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: there was two guys were like, those are the two guys, 66 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: and you know who's gonna make a name for themselves 67 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: as a reserve. And it felt like throughout camp, a 68 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: lot of people like at first it was Equals and Done, 69 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: then Done got hurt. Equals was a little banged up, 70 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: but he really played through, you know, he was I 71 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: don't think he ever really missed an extended period of time. 72 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: Pinnock had that bruise knee for a little bit, and Equals, 73 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: you felt like he definitely made plays in practice and 74 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: then he had to pick against the Packers in the 75 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: preseason game. And remember against the Giants, he had that 76 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: past defense when he ran down whoever the receiver was 77 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: and he batted it away and Salo was praising him 78 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: for his intellect on that play because that wasn't supposed 79 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: to be his man, but he saw the play in 80 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: real time. You know, I thought that I thought that 81 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: Equals had an impressive camp and couple that with what 82 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas said yesterday, I thought this was very interesting. 83 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: He said, instead of asking Blessed to take a reduced role, 84 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: we're giving these guys, the young guys, an opportunity, and 85 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: out of respect to bless we're giving him an opportunity 86 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: to find a larger role with the new team. Yeah, 87 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: there's no period to end to bless his sentence right 88 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: now in his professional career, there's a comma and then 89 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: we'll have to see where his story goes from here. Again, 90 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: the jetice wanted to get longer looks at other players. 91 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: They're very young at the cornerback position. We're going to 92 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: continue to talk about that throughout the year. Interesting as 93 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: far as the waiver claims, I think a lot of 94 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: people probably anticipate that we're gonna go veteran cornerback or yes, 95 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: definitely veteran cornerback. I know that Jimmy Moreland was the 96 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: name that was thrown out there, and the Jets didn't 97 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: end up claiming veteran cornerback. Instead, they claimed two players, 98 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: both defensive players. One guy Timmy Ward, former Kansas City 99 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: chief The other one Quincy Williams, who is the older 100 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: brother of Jets defensive tackle Quinnin Williams. Yeah, that's a 101 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: great story, and I think it's fascinating because he's actually 102 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: older than Quinnin, but a very good athlete, and Sala 103 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: raved about his length at that position. You know, the 104 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: Jets love length at the linebacker position, so it's gonna 105 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: be interesting to see him him come in here. And 106 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: Ward is a guy who, by all accounts is and 107 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: athletic freak, and I think the Chiefs wanted him back 108 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: as far as putting him on the practice squad. But 109 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: when you put somebody on waivers, you expose yourself, right, 110 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: That's part of the gymnastics though, and I saw I 111 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: think it was rich a meany to you about it 112 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: that when the Jets let go of Ryan Griffin and 113 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: Dan Brown and Schrod and Easeman and they brought all 114 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: those guys back. Those are veterans who aren't um exposed 115 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: to the waiver system. So let's say, let's say there 116 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: was a player that you wanted to bring back to 117 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: your practice squad for whatever reason, and you you release 118 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: a player, which means you have more than you have 119 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: five years or more of experience in the NFL. That 120 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: means that that player has the right to choose with 121 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: whatever team he wants to sign with. Yeah, there's a 122 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: difference between being released and waves because most of the 123 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: people just put it undo the Dombrala cut. But you 124 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: just properly described that. You know, when you get waived, 125 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: teams are taking on your contract, but when you get released, 126 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: you're out there. Well, I think to use a Jets example, 127 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: the Jets on Tuesday let go of both Josh Johnson 128 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: and James Morgan. Josh Johnson, having multiple seasons under his belt, 129 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: was straight up released and now consigned anywhere, right, and 130 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: he resigned with the Jets practice squad. A great point. 131 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: So I want to get back to the blessed here 132 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: in a second, but I wanted to get your thoughts 133 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: on the quarterback position because everybody's like, well, Jack Wilson, 134 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: of course, has never taken a snap in the regular 135 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: season in the National Football League, is being backed up 136 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: by Mike White, a third year player has never taken 137 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: a snap in the National Football League. But don't you 138 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: consider Josh Johnson, a veteran, arm experienced guy who's played 139 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: in the National Football league on a number of occasions 140 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: in the regular season. Yeah, he's not on the active 141 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: but can call him up at any time. Right, That's 142 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: the unique part of the practice squad rules. It's the 143 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: same thing as two thousand twenty where you can elevate 144 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: or promote a player two players per week from the 145 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: practice squad to the active roster, and they automatically revert 146 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: right back to the practice squad following the game. So 147 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: the game they roster essentially is fifty five for everybody 148 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: if they take advantage of that rule. And I think 149 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: it's a benefit to teams. And there's all these little 150 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: intricacies with the practice squad and the rules and protecting players, 151 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: and players can sign to another team's fifty three man roster, 152 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: but they can't sign to another practice squad. We could 153 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: have a whole podcast on that. You mentioned the quarterbacks 154 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: real quick, what do you think of James Morgan going 155 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: to Carolina's practice squad? Well, Joe Douglas said, the head 156 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: conversations with Morrigan following that cut down, and it sounded 157 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: like the Jets were interested in bringing him back, and 158 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: Carolina jumped in and is there gamesmanship involved? Yes, to 159 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: a certain extent. We saw that a couple of years 160 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: ago with David's Webb right, the Jets is very similar situation. 161 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: The Jets wave Davis Webb, and of course the Buffalo 162 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: Bills pick them up. And who is the Jets Week 163 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: one opponent the Bills? The one thing I think there's 164 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: one difference in this scenario, and I think it's kind 165 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: of important to point out at the point in which 166 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: the Jets released or wave Davis Webb, because there were 167 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: four preseason games they might have already started. You know, 168 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: I have a deeper dive into scouting the Buffalo Bills 169 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: at that time and creating a game plan. I'm not 170 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: so sure about this time, because between final cuts and 171 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: Week one there's almost two weeks involved there. Well, Salo 172 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: talked about that the other day. They're gonna turn their 173 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: focus to Carolina at what Wednesday's practice. I'm getting the 174 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: days they're all running together right now, but the Jet 175 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: to work out here Sunday, right, Sunday, Monday day off, 176 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: Tuesday to take care of all your transactions, and on 177 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: Wednesday Thursday. So you're right, their focus didn't really shift 178 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: to Carolina until Wednesday. But James Morgan probably knows a 179 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: thing or two about verbal cues and audibles. He might 180 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: know that. I mean, you might have to change your calls. 181 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: I think that's life in NFL, right, you know, I'm 182 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: sure if you're talking to the Jets over beer, and 183 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: maybe maybe people are rolling their eyes about it a 184 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: little bit, but hey, listen, Morrigan's taking an opportunity in Carolina. 185 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, anytime we release the player, anytime we 186 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: wave a player, anything can happen. Yeah, it's a great point. 187 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: So not only were there releases waiver claims. We talked 188 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: about those practice squad a little bit. How about trades. 189 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: Jets had executed two trades this week. Let's start with 190 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: Chris Herndon tight end is kind of a weird position 191 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: this week with all the roster gymnastics. You let go 192 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: of Ryan Griffin and Dan Brown, you bring you bring 193 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: them both back, but in that window where they were 194 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: before they were brought back, Chris Hernan officially gets straight 195 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: into the Minnesota Vikings for a two thousand, twenty two 196 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: fourth round pick, and the Jets gave up a two 197 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: thousand six round pick. Well, much like bless Austin, you 198 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna wish Chris Herndon. Well, here, both those guys 199 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: are good dudes, um, young players who have had some 200 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: level of success in the National Football League. I think 201 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: with Herndon, he had like thirty nine receptions this rookie season, 202 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: over five hundred yards receiving. Second year was really tough 203 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: hit of suspension and a hamstring injury, and then he 204 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: comes and plays against the Giants midseason breaks Ribby's out 205 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: for the year, So that's basically the entire second season 206 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: as a wash. Then the third season he came on, 207 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: I thought down the stretch felt quiet early in the season. 208 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: I think he finished with thirty one receptions lad year. 209 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: He got an end zone three times. So here you go. 210 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: We were wondering, being out there in the practice field 211 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: every session, whether it was here or in Green Bay, 212 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: where did Herndon fit on this team? Because it seemed 213 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: like Tyler Croft and Ryan Griffin when he was healthy, 214 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: those were your two top tight ends. And if you 215 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: were going to keep Dan Brown, he would stay in 216 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: that special team's role. The Jets like his athleticism as well. Um, 217 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: and then you kept Kenny a Ball on the practice squad. 218 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: So there's a young development player. So where did Hernon 219 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: fit into all of that? So Vikings rash injuries of 220 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: the position, you send a six to them along with Herndon, 221 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: and I thought you got great value there in four. 222 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: I agree, And you think about what kind of capital 223 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas now has rounds one through four in two 224 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: thousand and twenty two just a rifle through him. Two 225 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: first round picks their own in Seattle's, two second round 226 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: picks their own in Carolina's, one third round pick, and 227 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: two fourth round picks Carolina's and now Minnesota is because 228 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: the Jets traded away their two thousand fourth round pick 229 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: to the Seattle Seahawks with Jamal Adam. Yeah, so my 230 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: great job by Joe d again, because as we sit 231 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: here today, can you tell me you were a hundred 232 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: percent convinced that Herndon was making the roster. I'm not 233 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: saying he wasn't going to make the roster. I can't. 234 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: I can't sit here and tell you a hundred percent 235 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: you would have put him on completely safe. I wouldn't 236 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: say a hundred percent at all. It was we played 237 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: the numbers game too right, obviously, like Joe Douglas and 238 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: his staff and the coaching staff they collaborate. But when 239 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: we're out at practice every day and we start reading 240 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: the tea leaves of who who's playing well, who's been 241 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: kind of quiet, then you think about the tight ends room, 242 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: and we didn't even talk about Trayvon Westco. I know 243 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: he's listed as a tight end, but it's important to 244 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: notice that we didn't talk about the fullback. He's the fullback. 245 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: I think it's important though that we distinguished because he's 246 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: technically a tight end, but he really is the team's fullback. 247 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: So I think that with Hernon and that whole room, 248 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: it was somebody was going to be the odd man out, 249 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: and for the Jets to get a fourth round pick 250 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: and return for Chris Hernon and make that decision probably 251 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,599 Speaker 1: a little easier for Joe Douglas and his staff, I 252 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: think it was a great move. And you have now 253 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: more draft capital in two thousand and twenty two, so 254 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: I think it was a good move. The other trade 255 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: was involved a sixth round pick, but the Jets give 256 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: up a six round pick that they got last year 257 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: for Jordan Willis actually got traded to San Francisco forty 258 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: niners where Salo was, and the Jets got back Shack 259 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: Lawson from the Texans. Lawson former first round pick out 260 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: of Clemson. Joe Douglas said he brings a junkyard dog 261 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: mentality that defensive line. Even without Carl Lawson, the Jets 262 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: still have plenty of confidence in this defensive line. I 263 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: think he needed somebody there after loss and went down. Now, 264 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: Jack laws is a different player than Carl Lawson, um, 265 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: but Douglas and sal is the same way. They're not 266 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: gonna feel sorry for themselves because they've lost a potential 267 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: double digit sack. Guy is absolutely devastating blow, but the 268 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: train is still going to leave the tracks Week one 269 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: in Carolina. Loss in is guy who not only can 270 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: help your rushing the quarterback. He's not as explosive as 271 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: a Carl Lawson, but he's also gonna help you as 272 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: far as his run defense. He's a real good run stopper. 273 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: And I know that isn't going to win a lot 274 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: of headlines out there, but unique guys like that. So 275 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna give you some push in the past game. 276 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna be good in the locker room. He's gonna 277 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: help you against the run, don't you think it. I 278 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: think the reaction when the Jets traded for Shack Lawson, 279 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: was like, this is the guy that you're getting for 280 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: Carl Awson. I think it's a great point. You can't 281 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: just replace Carl Lawson one for one unless you were 282 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: like swinging for the fences. And Bart Scott was sitting 283 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: here once, you know, a couple of weeks ago, and 284 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: he was like, look, you just get a you know, 285 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: a tier A guy you like, you don't make a 286 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: move unless it's not. But I'm gonna challenge that because 287 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: the Jets also lost Vinnie Curry. And I think that 288 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: when you look at Vinnie curry stats, which is what 289 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm pulling up right here, past two years, he had 290 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: eight sacks three and two thousand twenty five and two 291 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, two and a half the year before that. 292 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: You look at Shack Lawson, he's younger than Vinny Curry. 293 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: He's still got years left on his contract because he 294 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: was traded from the Dolphins to the Texans in the 295 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: off season after signing with the Dolphins in two thousand 296 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: twenty and he had four sacks last year and six 297 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: and a half the year before that, and four before that. 298 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: So when you look at I'm just using Vinny Curry 299 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: as an example their sack production in a vacuum. The 300 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: last three years, Shack Lawson has been a more productive 301 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: player in that sense. I'm not saying he's a better player. 302 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think the swap there was. People 303 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: I think are saying, Shack Lawson and Carl Lawson. You 304 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: know it's never gonna be one, You're right, But I 305 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: think the one for one is more along the lines 306 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: of Lawson and Curry. John Franklin Myers is really gonna 307 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: be in the spotlight this year where you thought that 308 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: he could really benefit from Carl Lawson because Loss is 309 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: gonna be pushing that one edge and then you have 310 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: those big guys in the middle and uh JF I'm 311 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: is gonna get those opportunities. Well jfm um, he's gonna 312 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: be the guy counted on big time this year. And 313 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 1: then let's not forget about Bryce Hoff. Bryce Huff had 314 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: a very good summer last year. He had a couple 315 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: of sacks, a couple of sacks again in the preseason. 316 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: He was buzzing the tower here throughout training camp. He 317 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: brings an element to explosion, so he'll be part of 318 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: your sub packages. As well. But I'll tell you what. 319 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: The guy that I'm really excited about on that defensive line, 320 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: who I don't think we talked about enough. I think 321 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: I know where you're gonna go with this. Yeah, selling Rankins, 322 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: Man selling Rankins next to Quinnin Williams, watch Out, Watch Out. 323 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: I think Rankins is ready to do some damage. His 324 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: body type is very interesting, you know, I don't the 325 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: Jets have the old school, very large run stuffer defensive 326 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: tackle full Aronzo Vardakasi, but then you look at Quinnin. 327 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: You know, it is one of my favorite quotes. I 328 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: know it's probably outdated at this point. Jonah Williams, the 329 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: Alabama tackle, described Quentin Williams as a three hundred pound 330 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: bar of soap because he's so slippery as a defensive tackle. 331 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: And you know it's true because you think of Quinn 332 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: and he's not a towering presence, but he is, well, 333 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: how did Robert Salad describe him? All mass? Not all gas? 334 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: All mass? And you look at Sheldon Ranking and he's not. Again, 335 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 1: you're prototypical defensive tackle in the sense of like old school, 336 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: but he really seems like he packs a punch too. Yeah, 337 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: And I think He's got a wide arsenal as far 338 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: as his moves and the way he can use his hands. 339 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't play the game at the defensive 340 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: tackle position in the National Football League, but Les Douzable did, 341 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: and I love getting his thoughts on what he sees 342 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: from the defensivelignement going in the trenches and the way 343 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: they apply techniques and Rankin's goot, he's got a lot 344 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: of clubs in the back. You know what I find 345 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: very impressive in terms of leg during the game. In 346 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: real time, I'm on Twitter and I'm seeing, you know, 347 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: people tweet about the Jets the things that he catches 348 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: as a former player, like it's outstanding to me, and 349 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: and what he catches is usually very vital to the 350 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: result of the play, where you know, somebody might say, oh, 351 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: that's bad coverage and that guy was open, like how 352 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: do he get so open? And Leger in real time 353 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: will be like, no, you know that guy got picked 354 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: and you know he should have done this. Whatever it's 355 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: I find it very interesting by the way making his 356 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: return to one jet strive or you know, I don't 357 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: want to say one to drive and get it confused 358 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: with the show not talking about the show. I'm talking 359 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: about the building. We can't even say the address. We can't, 360 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: but you know, I just wanted to make sure that 361 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 1: there was no confusion here to go a glimpse of 362 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: wat's to come. Lejay Douzable making his return here to 363 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: the Jets three six while he's gonna help us out 364 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: on the official Deaths podcast. Do you have a great 365 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: podcast coming up? A game preview podcast that people are 366 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: gonna be able to tune into and listen to weekly 367 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: and or listen to weekly. But Douzable also is going 368 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: to be making an appearance on our Sunday morning show 369 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: on CBS, which I don't know if we've released the 370 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: name publicly, so I don't know if I can do 371 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: it here just yet. All right, that's fair. Just just 372 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: just keep gonna be part of our content. So that's 373 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: definitely a big ad. Because we already got the mad backers, 374 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: so we got we got all levels of defense. Because 375 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: you start with dudes and then you go back, you 376 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: need a linebacker. You got Bart Scott, and then you 377 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: needed a safety. We got Eric Coleman. We were covered 378 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: defensively offense. I don't know if we have the same, 379 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: the same levels that the defense has defense and championships. Well, 380 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: we got nick man Goold and there might be another 381 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: former Jets quarterback coming to Jets programming in two tho one. 382 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: But I don't know if we don't have we don't 383 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: have a tailback, right, No, I don't think so. We 384 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: do have Lee on Washington. He's just all he's just 385 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: a coach. Yeah, we could bring him upstairs, no doubt. 386 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: Getting back to what you said about dudes and what 387 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: he watches and things like that, is that the cornerback position. 388 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: We started the show talking about the cornerback position. I 389 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: think what Salo wants to see is can you win 390 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: on third down? And the anticipation from everybody is a 391 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: lot of cover too. We cover three back there and 392 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: who is going to be the guy? Ethan in Caroline 393 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: think if we predict right now that Bryce Hall is 394 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: starting outside, who will be lining up across the way 395 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: outside the numbers and who's the first nickel up? Because 396 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: you know that was a great competition throughout the summer. 397 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: But Gidri, I guess he's got a chance at the 398 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: outside and inside, I would say, assuming the roster stays 399 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: put as it is, and there's no addition. My guess 400 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: is that Brandon eccles is opposite Bryce Hall and Javelin 401 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: Gidreys in the middle, unless or unless Gidri wins that job. 402 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: On the outside that I think Michael Carter is in 403 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: the nickel live speed at the cornerback position. All those 404 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: guys you just mentioned could fly. You agree with me? Though? 405 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: I asked Solo about Michael Carter's the other day I 406 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: think it was Sunday, and I loved his answer because 407 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of you have on Giddre. He said, 408 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: we have two starting Nickels on this team, and we 409 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: have to find a way to get both of these 410 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: guys on the field. So you're thinking Giddy on the outside, Oh, 411 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. You know that that could 412 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: mean some dime action with both Carter and get out there, 413 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: of course, but the Jets won't be lacking for speed 414 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: on the outside if you have an Equals out there, 415 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: if you have a Carter out there, if you have 416 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: a kid Dree. You know those guys, You know those 417 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: guys can burn. Those are all sub four four guys. Yeah, 418 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: the Jets much faster in the secondary, for sure. You 419 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: know what it's um before we wrap up here is 420 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: areny you're wrapping up already. We're not talking in any offense. 421 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: We can how many minutes in are we were not 422 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: talking about Zack Wilson at all? We're almost dirty. Were 423 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: you surprised he made the team? No? I thought he 424 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: had a good chance of making the team. I loved 425 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: what Joe Douglas said about another day because we've heard 426 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: solo all along saying that we love this kid's process 427 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: right now, that he never makes the same mistake twice, 428 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: that he can't get enough, that he's going across the 429 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: room and talking to the defensive staff in terms of 430 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: what are they looking at? Um? So you know, he's 431 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: one of those kids who, uh, Wilson, There's gonna be 432 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: moments where he's still in the one on one class, 433 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: but he's certainly trended into three oh one, five oh one, 434 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: and that's what you want from the quarterback. But Joe 435 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: Douglas said it the other day, and he didn't have 436 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: to say this. He's that everything we'd hoped he would be. 437 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: You know, I've really that's a hell of a compliment. 438 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: It is. I actually thought another big time compliment came 439 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: from Greg Van Rote and when he said Zack Wilson 440 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: is only a rookie by name, meaning like it's just 441 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: his first year in the NFL. The rest of what 442 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson is on the field in the meeting rooms rookie, 443 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: not one on one, seems like he's definitely advanced for 444 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: where a typical rookie would be. Connor McGovern also said 445 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: he's a gamer, like not taking shots as far as 446 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: this practice habits, but he kind of turns it off. 447 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: But notch. That's what you want from a guy slinging, 448 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: you definitely do. And we Daniel Jeremiah and everybody says, 449 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, we got a glimpse of it in Green Bay. 450 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: You can't do. You can't have a broken play turned 451 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: explosive play in practice. That's just not how it works. 452 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: It's scripted. But in a game, we kind of saw 453 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: it with the Corey Davis twenty seven yard reception. There's 454 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: a little bit there, and we'll see what happens when 455 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: the lights really turned on in the regular season. But um, 456 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: you know, the Jets aren't done with their roster. That 457 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: was the point that I wanted to bring this full circle. 458 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: They're really not done with the roster. We just saw 459 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: a report today Jets are working out Ruben Foster at linebacker. 460 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: So this is a continuous effort to improve your raw 461 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: or whether it's September two like it is today, whether 462 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: it's April, or whether it's July, it's sixty five days 463 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: of the year. What are your thoughts as far as 464 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: the running back and or wide receiver position is. I 465 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: think a lot of people were talking about how many 466 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: UH numbers are you gonna keep at the wide receiver 467 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: spot and what about the dynamic dynamic they're at running 468 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: back now with Michael p Ryan a little bit banged up, 469 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: you got Josh Adams on the practice squb. I'm gonna 470 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: start with the receivers. I think most people thought the 471 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: Jets were gonna carry six receivers. I was definitely in 472 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: that camp. Adding Jeff Smith as the seventh I think 473 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: was the surprise. But Jeff Smith really, I thought, played 474 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: well down the stretch for the Jets as well. And 475 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: you think about what he did in practice the last 476 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: week of training camp, and you know throughout he flashed 477 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: at times, but really I think you saw what Jeff 478 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: Smith brings in terms of speed and explosiveness. When in 479 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: the final preseason game, the Jets handed the ball off 480 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: to him on three end a rounds and he had 481 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: positive plays and chunk games on each of those plays, 482 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: he said he has speed to burn. In terms of 483 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: the running backs, I'm not surprised by the way it 484 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: shook out. My question is, are you on game day 485 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: do you have all four active? Do you have three active? 486 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: Because if you have all four active, you're really gonna 487 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: put all four in the game at one point or another. 488 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: Or is it gonna be one of those things where 489 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: it depends on matchups and it depends on running how 490 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: hot that player is heading into the game. I think 491 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: that's the thing that fans should keep an eye. Let's 492 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: just give a shout out to Josh Adams five point 493 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: four yards to carry last year or five point yards 494 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: to carry in the preseason. He's a guy who just 495 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: constantly flies on his radar. I know he's on the 496 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: practice squad, but the Jets really liked their backs. Final 497 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: thought here for me would be speed. The need for 498 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: speed that that's if constantly addressed that throughout the offseason. 499 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: Now you see it with the roster. Let's go over 500 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: all the positions we mentioned equals, We talked about kids. 501 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: We we talked about um, who else on the outside 502 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: that why is the name of Michael Carter playing in 503 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: the nickel position. We talked about the transitions those guys 504 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: are making down at the rookie linebacker position, from Jamie 505 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: Sherwood and Homson Nosrel Dene. We go to the offensive 506 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: side of the ball. You mentioned Jeff Smith, a sub 507 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: four four guy who's been running a lot with the 508 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: ones at the running back position. Ty Johnson a sub 509 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: four four guy you drafted, Elijah Moore, a sub four 510 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: four guy. What you're seeing here is the emphasis and 511 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: not just Solacene play speed, but the combination of him 512 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: and Joe Douglas coming together and saying there are certain 513 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: attributes that we have to address here. The Jets are 514 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: going to be noticeably a lot faster club this year. 515 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: You know who else is a sub four or four 516 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: player who we often don't think. Mims for three eight 517 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: at the combine and he I feel bad for Denzel 518 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: because he really, I think was starting to turn a corner, 519 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: especially in the first preseason game. And Joe Douglas referenced that, 520 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: I mean the effort he gave on that play where 521 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: he showed a little strength, toughness, agility, and speed. It's 522 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: very impressive. He's a long strider too, So Tavin Coleman 523 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: is another guy who you know ranked last year. Yeah, 524 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: but he still can get out there in the open field. 525 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: So I just think the Jets clearly went into the 526 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: off season saying we have to be faster on both 527 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: sides of the ball, and Solom wants these guys to 528 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: play fast. Um, you're gonna see that out there, and 529 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: sometimes there's gonna be mistakes because it's such a young roster. 530 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: And Joe Douglas said he's expecting ups and downs, but 531 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: I think this team is going to be entertaining to 532 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: watch throughout the season. I definitely agree, And we'll see 533 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: what happens in a couple you know, it's it's really 534 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: almost right around the corner, but you have this little 535 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, this nice little weekend, Labor Day weekend, and 536 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: then we're really ramping up another notch, kind of like 537 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson what Connor McGovern said, it's game time. We 538 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: ramp it up a notch. Next week. In terms of content, 539 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: we're back with the podcast we got to coming down 540 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: the pike next week at least, and I think that's 541 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. And you got any Labor Day plans. 542 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: I would imagine we'll be here Labor Day, but I 543 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: met during the weekend college football got a wedding Saturday, 544 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: and I'm hoping we can sneak out of there at 545 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: a decent time because, like you mentioned, there's a lot 546 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: of good college footballs up. I mean. But for us, 547 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: when we get back here Monday, we're in the regular season. 548 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: The regular season begins. Remember Pregame Central, we'll bring live 549 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: uh next Sunday, somebody will be here inside the bet 550 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: MGM stood, he'll probably both on us. And then we 551 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: have Jets over Time. Our first place today praxt Today 552 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: moves to a new time this year, Thursdays, so check that. 553 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: Check that out a lot. We got a lot coming 554 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: down the pike. But that's all we have on this 555 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: episode of the Official Jets Podcast. Enjoy your Labor Day 556 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: weekend and we'll see you next week.