Speaker 1: Let your little light shine. And when you shine your light,
Speaker 1: you then give permission for others to let their light shine.
Speaker 1: And if we could all be who you are, be
Speaker 1: the best version of who you are, and come from
Speaker 1: that heart space, in that essence of the beauty of
Speaker 1: you is the individual that you are. That's what makes
Speaker 1: the world so magic. Hey, everyone, welcome back to On Purpose,
Speaker 1: the number one health podcast in the world. Thanks to
Speaker 1: each and every one of you that come back every
Speaker 1: week to listen, learn and grow. Now, today's guest is
Speaker 1: someone that I've been really excited to talk to for
Speaker 1: a long long time. I feel like I'm finally connecting
Speaker 1: with a special soul. We have a couple of mutual
Speaker 1: friends that have talked to me about her, and I've
Speaker 1: been watching and admiring her incredible journey and her phenomenal work.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the one and only Mirandaka, who's a
Speaker 1: well known face in the world of fashion. She started
Speaker 1: a career in her early teens when her friend entered
Speaker 1: her into a modeling competition, which sparked significant media attention,
Speaker 1: and she soon became the most sought after new face
Speaker 1: in modeling. In two thousand and seven, Victoria's Secrets signed
Speaker 1: Miranda as an Angel, making her the first and only
Speaker 1: Australian model ever to hold the coveted title. Miranda continued
Speaker 1: to work closely with fashion titans across the world. Now,
Speaker 1: Miranda is the founder and CEO of the leading global
Speaker 1: certified organic skincare brand, Cora Organics. Miranda, Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome to On Purpose, and thank you for being here.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. That was quite
Speaker 1: an introduction. Well, you've had quite a life, so I
Speaker 1: think it's worth celebrating, and I think it's worth reminding people.
Speaker 1: You seem like a very modest and humble soul, and
Speaker 1: so I think it's always wonderful to take a moment
Speaker 1: to celebrate these incredible achievements because you know they do
Speaker 1: matter in the sense of they matter because you've been
Speaker 1: representing yourself, representing a community, representing what you believe in
Speaker 1: through all your work. So I said it with energy
Speaker 1: because I think it's phenomenal, and congratulations on all of it. Oh,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I really feel like if you're
Speaker 1: going to do something, you have to put your whole
Speaker 1: heart into it, and so I just love that about
Speaker 1: you as well, and that's the way I've lived my life.
Speaker 1: And actually my mom taught me that as a young child,
Speaker 1: and it's something that you know, I do every single
Speaker 1: day no matter if I'm changing a diaper, I'm like
Speaker 1: putting my whole heart into making sure that diaper is
Speaker 1: perfectly clean and tidy and you know, fit the right way.
Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three boys. So that's such a
Speaker 1: good point though, because I think sometimes we think we
Speaker 1: can put our all into the big things, but actually
Speaker 1: it starts with putting you all into the small things.
Speaker 1: How did your mother teach you that habit? I think
Speaker 1: that's a brilliant mindset already to start off with. How
Speaker 1: did she train that in you? And did she train
Speaker 1: did you have siblings? And did she share that with everyone? Yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom is such a strong, incredible woman, and she
Speaker 1: really taught me from that young age, if you're going
Speaker 1: to do something, put your whole heart into it, or
Speaker 1: don't bother doing it. And that was with everything, whether
Speaker 1: or not we were cleaning the car, whether or not
Speaker 1: we were tidying our room, whether or not we were
Speaker 1: doing our homework, whether or not like I had just
Speaker 1: started a job, She's like just if you're going to
Speaker 1: do it, just put your own into it, or don't
Speaker 1: do it at all. And like, I hear that in
Speaker 1: my head every day. If I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe like cutting a corner a little bit, like oh,
Speaker 1: I don't have time to properly rinse the dishes before
Speaker 1: I put them in the dishwasher. Do simple little things
Speaker 1: like that, I'm like, oh, that comes in my head.
Speaker 1: Or if I'm whatever I'm doing with when I'm you know,
Speaker 1: creating a new product for my skincare line, Cora Organic,
Speaker 1: or if I'm writing an interview, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: like writing a response to an interview. Whatever I'm doing,
Speaker 1: I really think about that and really put my whole
Speaker 1: heart into it. And that's honestly why I believe my
Speaker 1: products are getting such incredible results for people's skin, because
Speaker 1: I really give it my all, like my whole heart,
Speaker 1: in like a whole three sixty approach to everything that
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I love that mindset. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: people know you as the founder and CEO of Core
Speaker 1: Organics and the creator and your modeling career, but I
Speaker 1: think something that a lot of people don't know is
Speaker 1: you actually studied nutrition and health psychology before you became
Speaker 1: a model, and I wanted to understand a bit more
Speaker 1: about that journey because to me, that shows that your
Speaker 1: journey with your business today it actually started a very
Speaker 1: long time ago with this passion in this desire to
Speaker 1: learn about nutrition and health psychology. Can you talk about
Speaker 1: what you learned at that time, which you I think
Speaker 1: it's been relevant to today. I just personally feel like
Speaker 1: for me, I'm the type of person that wants to
Speaker 1: be learning until the day die. Like I just feel
Speaker 1: like there's so much to learn out there, and I'm
Speaker 1: super passionate about health and wellness and psychology and how
Speaker 1: the mind, body and spirit is all interconnected. So I
Speaker 1: studied in Australia a course via correspondence, and then I
Speaker 1: studied another course an integrative nutrition and graduated in twenty
Speaker 1: and ten. And that course was based out of New York.
Speaker 1: And I recently just did another course through Coursera that
Speaker 1: Stanford was offering, and I really enjoyed that as well,
Speaker 1: and I just, like I said, it's something that I'm
Speaker 1: passionate about and it feeds my soul because I know,
Speaker 1: like I just get a lot out of that information,
Speaker 1: like whether it be anything from like you know, the
Speaker 1: nutrient content of something to the way that you perceived
Speaker 1: something can then you know, shift your whole like you
Speaker 1: have the choice to see something in a certain way,
Speaker 1: or you have it's you know, see something in a
Speaker 1: positive light or a negative light or in a neutral light,
Speaker 1: and that can affect your whole day. And so these
Speaker 1: type of things like really interest me and I just
Speaker 1: find just looking at things that way really appealing. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: What would you say, is the most recent thing you've
Speaker 1: learned about the mind, body, or spirit or something that
Speaker 1: you've come across that you're just like, Wow, I didn't
Speaker 1: know this and I didn't realize this, or it's changed
Speaker 1: a habit in you. Has there's been something recently that
Speaker 1: you've learned from a course or a book or a
Speaker 1: podcast or anything else that stands out at all. Well,
Speaker 1: something that I've learned because i grew up in a
Speaker 1: little country town and I've learned so many things obviously
Speaker 1: along the way, and I've started with an interest and
Speaker 1: a passion and nutrition, and I just thought and then
Speaker 1: I've done all of these courses and whatnot, and I
Speaker 1: always felt like I was, you know, just a very healthy,
Speaker 1: health conscious person. But I've often encouraged that balance of
Speaker 1: like eighty twenty, like eighty percent super healthy and conscious
Speaker 1: and twenty percent having a little bit more flexibility with
Speaker 1: yourself and enjoying that moment if you want to, you know,
Speaker 1: have a piece of cake with your friend, Like just
Speaker 1: really enjoy that moment and don't be sitting alone eating
Speaker 1: a salad and being unhappy. It's better to enjoy that
Speaker 1: moment with your friend and whatnot. But one thing that
Speaker 1: recently I've been learning more and more about, and it
Speaker 1: sounds so simple, but and it's something that you know
Speaker 1: for so long, I didn't fully understand until recently. It's
Speaker 1: just that works for me is just predominantly being more
Speaker 1: plant based and trying to get a lot of my
Speaker 1: vitamins and minerals directly from the food that I eat,
Speaker 1: as opposed to rely on as heavily on supplements. And
Speaker 1: like everyone kind of knows that, but I've learned it
Speaker 1: even more in these last couple of years, and I've
Speaker 1: noticed a big difference with my own digestion and whatnot
Speaker 1: from incorporating like predominantly plants. It's not like vegan or vegetarian.
Speaker 1: It's more like plant based, so lots of fresh vegetables
Speaker 1: and fruits. I do my celery juice in the morning.
Speaker 1: That's been a game changer for me. I don't know,
Speaker 1: do you do the celery Yeah, we're on the I
Speaker 1: mean everything you just said I'm so aligned with because
Speaker 1: my wife and I are plant based, and we would
Speaker 1: define in the same way. We also try and eat
Speaker 1: as few unprocessed and unpackaged goods, so we try not
Speaker 1: to eat things out of a box as much as
Speaker 1: we can, or we avoid having package in our home.
Speaker 1: And the medical medium was the person who introduced me
Speaker 1: to celery juice when he came on the podcast a
Speaker 1: few years back. And so I started taking celery juice
Speaker 1: and that has helped my gut more than anything in
Speaker 1: the world that I've tried. And so I'm completely aligned
Speaker 1: with you, and that's why we're going to get along
Speaker 1: even better because everything you just said, I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: I fully have drank the kool aid and believe in
Speaker 1: it too. Yeah, I mean I thought I was super healthy,
Speaker 1: and I was super healthy, you know, but at the
Speaker 1: same time, I took my head my health to the
Speaker 1: next level by incorporating more of a plant based diet,
Speaker 1: although I'm not like one hundred percent there because my
Speaker 1: husband is not plant based, like he really enjoys to
Speaker 1: you know, like he enjoys when I make him this
Speaker 1: rose chicken, then he really likes which is like this
Speaker 1: tumor ey chicken. And so sometimes I'll take a bite
Speaker 1: of that, I have to check to make sure it
Speaker 1: tastes perfect. And so I'm not like super super like strict,
Speaker 1: but I do notice a huge difference in my energy
Speaker 1: levels and focus when I'm predominantly eating that way, and
Speaker 1: there are a lot of studies to back that up
Speaker 1: in science, and even the course that I was doing
Speaker 1: through Stanfard was saying that like, predominantly we should be
Speaker 1: eating more plant based, less processed, less red meat because
Speaker 1: I mean any meat really in general. And it's also
Speaker 1: obviously better for the environment as well. And I've just
Speaker 1: noticed the personal like health benefits from doing so. And
Speaker 1: Anthony got me onto doing the celery juice, which I
Speaker 1: have like thirty two ounces every morning celery juice. Well,
Speaker 1: I have water with one lemon to start off with,
Speaker 1: and then I do the celery juice, and then I
Speaker 1: do the heavy metal detox smoothie, which is great because
Speaker 1: you have in their barley grass spillina in the powder form,
Speaker 1: you have the blueberries, banana fresh orange juice, and the
Speaker 1: seaweeds the dolls, so you're getting like so many vitamins
Speaker 1: and minerals that way. That's incredible. Can you tell me
Speaker 1: about the last one and tell me about what that's
Speaker 1: specifically doing for those that don't know. I think people
Speaker 1: have heard us speak about celery juice before. They've heard
Speaker 1: us speak about some plant based diets, but especially that
Speaker 1: last one when you talk about the metal did yeah,
Speaker 1: could you speak a bit about that. So that Anthony
Speaker 1: has put together like the specific shake smoothie which is
Speaker 1: kind of easy to make, and actually I make it
Speaker 1: for the whole family. The kids love it. It has
Speaker 1: those ingredients which I mentioned, and those ingredients help to
Speaker 1: pull out oh and it has cilantro in there too
Speaker 1: to help draw out any heavy metals that might be
Speaker 1: in our bodies, and it kind of in a natural
Speaker 1: way because the cilantro helps draw out that. And then
Speaker 1: you're getting so many minerals from the dolls, and you're
Speaker 1: getting the protein from the spillina and the barley grass powder,
Speaker 1: and then you've got all the antioxidants from the blueberries
Speaker 1: and then the wild blueberries, and then the vitamin C
Speaker 1: with the orange juice, and the potassium with a banana.
Speaker 1: I mean, I really just love it. Yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: wait to try that one. That's when I haven't tried yet.
Speaker 1: So I was asking for myself too, where I'm definitely
Speaker 1: going to try that one out. So I love I
Speaker 1: love that tip because it's amazing. Isn't it that all
Speaker 1: these natural accessible items of food can be so powerful
Speaker 1: for our mind and body and even shift our energy.
Speaker 1: I found when I made these shifts in instead of
Speaker 1: reaching for a sugary soda drink to reaching for a
Speaker 1: celery juice. So when I made the shift of switching
Speaker 1: to a natural protein drink, which is what I have everyday,
Speaker 1: a natural protein shake as opposed to even a powdered one, Like,
Speaker 1: so many great benefits are there. I wonder you said
Speaker 1: that your mother obviously taught you all these mindsets. What
Speaker 1: are some of the mindsets lessons or health and wellness
Speaker 1: tips you're sharing with your kids to try and help them.
Speaker 1: Could you walk us through that process of how you're
Speaker 1: passing that on Like your mother taught you so many
Speaker 1: beautiful insights. Yeah. One other thing that my mother taught
Speaker 1: me as well as a young child was let your
Speaker 1: little light shine. And there's that speech that Maryanne Williamson
Speaker 1: wrote about shining your light, and when you shine your light,
Speaker 1: you then give permission for others to let their light shine.
Speaker 1: And if we could all shine our light, I mean
Speaker 1: and when I say shine the light, it's more like,
Speaker 1: be who you are, Be the best version of who
Speaker 1: you are, and come from that heart space and that
Speaker 1: essence of the beauty of you is the individual that
Speaker 1: you are. And so I tried to encourage that within
Speaker 1: my children. I tried to cultivate their own individuality and
Speaker 1: the three I have three boys, and they're all so different,
Speaker 1: and that's what makes the world so magic, like the
Speaker 1: individual personalities and what everyone can bring to the table.
Speaker 1: It's so interesting. My eleven year old is a true artist,
Speaker 1: and he's very sensitive and empathetic, and he also is
Speaker 1: a peacemaker. The amount of times that I've had feedback
Speaker 1: from other parents that my son has been the one
Speaker 1: to help you make peace between two people that were
Speaker 1: having challenges at school, or if someone was getting bullied,
Speaker 1: he'd be the one to stand in and say listen,
Speaker 1: that's not okay. So he has that quality of like
Speaker 1: being that little peacemaker helping to create that harmony within
Speaker 1: his space. And then what really makes him shine and
Speaker 1: thrives when he could sit down and express himself through art,
Speaker 1: you know. And then my little three year old, he
Speaker 1: just loves anything with engines, like cars, and he's like
Speaker 1: a real boy boy, and he just loves and is
Speaker 1: so fascinated with engines, whether it be a car or
Speaker 1: aeroplane or a boat or you know, anything like that.
Speaker 1: And he's very focused on what he wants to do
Speaker 1: and where he wants to go, whereas my first child
Speaker 1: is a little more flexible and just harmonious. And it's
Speaker 1: just and it's incredible for me as a parent to
Speaker 1: help cultivate these individual like passions, you know. And then
Speaker 1: with my eleven year old, he really loves soccer, so
Speaker 1: I'm like, I encourage him to do that what he
Speaker 1: really loves. And and my three year old he really
Speaker 1: loves swimming. And then the baby, the two year old,
Speaker 1: he's very much into balls, anything that's like a ball,
Speaker 1: So we cultivate that. And these are just little examples
Speaker 1: of just how to cultivate that passion that's naturally within
Speaker 1: them from a young age, and not project what you
Speaker 1: want them to be onto them, and work with them
Speaker 1: so they can be the best versions of themselves. And
Speaker 1: it's really fun being apparent and having the opportunity to
Speaker 1: help cultivate that and in a loving way and in
Speaker 1: a way of like, because they are three boys, they
Speaker 1: can sometimes, you know, especially the two and three year old.
Speaker 1: They're sixteen months apart, so they can sometimes just like
Speaker 1: have this little rough and tumble moment, and I'm like, boys,
Speaker 1: let's take a breath. Let's make peace, because I really
Speaker 1: want to cultivate that peacemaking. I forgive you, Please forgive me.
Speaker 1: Let's forgive each other. Let's make peace, and let's be
Speaker 1: grateful for each other. Let's be greatful that we have
Speaker 1: each other, that you have a brother, and you know
Speaker 1: that you have two brothers, and that we're all here
Speaker 1: together and we have our health, and like, let's get
Speaker 1: on with the rest of the day. And like they're
Speaker 1: like okay, and it's like I forgive you, and then
Speaker 1: I make the other one say please forgive me, and
Speaker 1: let's make peace. Yeah, And I do the same with
Speaker 1: my eleven year old, so little things like that. I
Speaker 1: also we do yoga together. I've done like Mummy and
Speaker 1: me yoga with each of them, and there's also this
Speaker 1: other program called Cosmic Yoga that I put on for
Speaker 1: the little ones just to kind of help them get
Speaker 1: into that moment. I put on a little meditation and
Speaker 1: Carmi music at night, and we say our prayers before
Speaker 1: bed and just having that. I try to cultivate that
Speaker 1: attitude of gratitude with my children because that, to me,
Speaker 1: is something that's really important, Like fee is a precious gift,
Speaker 1: and we should be really grateful for every breath and
Speaker 1: every moment that we have together. And I really really
Speaker 1: want to instill that within our children because if you
Speaker 1: don't have that gratitude and start from that place of gratitude,
Speaker 1: then it just feels to me like you're not coming
Speaker 1: from that loving space and it you know, it's the
Speaker 1: most important thing is to have that loving foundation. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: that sounds so wonderful and beautiful, by the way. That's
Speaker 1: so inspiring. And what I love about what you shared
Speaker 1: is that it sounds like you've created lots of experiences
Speaker 1: with your children where you're all learning together and you're
Speaker 1: growing together. And it's not just I'm spending time with them,
Speaker 1: because I think we often feel like it's just about
Speaker 1: time and quality time, but it actually seems like you've
Speaker 1: built rituals and practices and meditations and prayers and experiences
Speaker 1: together which allows you to form such a deeper bond
Speaker 1: with them. I wonder, Miranda, you know, I'm asking this
Speaker 1: because I know so many of our community and our
Speaker 1: audience are mothers, their wives, their fathers, their husbands, their partners.
Speaker 1: They are CEOs, their founders of companies. How do you
Speaker 1: wear all of those hats but still give yourself the
Speaker 1: time and permission to take care of yourself? Because obviously
Speaker 1: you're someone who's very mindful, you take care of your
Speaker 1: physical and mental health. How do you give yourself permission
Speaker 1: in all of that? How have you found to make
Speaker 1: space for your own health and wellness while you're building
Speaker 1: a company and being a mother, and of course being
Speaker 1: a wife and provider and family person too. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: actually something that I was very conscious of because my
Speaker 1: mother she actually it is quite a workaholic. Is when
Speaker 1: I was a child, so my grandmother, I spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time with my grandmother, who you know, was
Speaker 1: a grandmother at home and so she was very nurturing.
Speaker 1: So my mom taught me the importance of hard work
Speaker 1: and having the really like great work ethic and just like,
Speaker 1: let's get in and do this and do it with
Speaker 1: our whole heart. And my grandmother taught me the loving
Speaker 1: nurturing side of things. So for me, I really wanted
Speaker 1: to infuse the two from my children so that they
Speaker 1: understood that work is a part of life. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm there for them and meeting their
Speaker 1: needs and I am taking time to be with them,
Speaker 1: and they feel like they're they and they know that
Speaker 1: they're my priority always, like they come first, no matter what,
Speaker 1: and so it is a balance. And so what I've
Speaker 1: had to do, and I know you practice this as well,
Speaker 1: is I have everything on my calendar and I map
Speaker 1: everything out from minute to minute, like literally, So my
Speaker 1: husband wakes up at five thirty every morning, so I
Speaker 1: know that I have from five thirty till six thirty
Speaker 1: because my children generally wake up between six thirty and seven,
Speaker 1: depends on how the night's gone. So I know that
Speaker 1: I have that time to do what fills my cup
Speaker 1: at the very minimum right, because we all know that
Speaker 1: we need to fill our own cup in order to
Speaker 1: be able to give abundantly to everyone around them. And
Speaker 1: I really want to be the best mother I can be.
Speaker 1: I want to be the best partner I can be
Speaker 1: to my husband. I want to be the rest my
Speaker 1: best for my team. And I really believe in being
Speaker 1: present and engaged and wherever I am, like in that moment.
Speaker 1: So in order for me to be able to do that,
Speaker 1: having that calendar mapped out and then having flexibility within
Speaker 1: that is a way that helps me stick mostly to
Speaker 1: the plan and even thinks in there, like you know,
Speaker 1: I used to having there like called my Grandma because
Speaker 1: and she just passed a year ago. But I would
Speaker 1: have that in there because that way time wouldn't just
Speaker 1: slip through my fingers, you know, and I would make
Speaker 1: sure that I had that time in there because life
Speaker 1: is very busy for each and every one of us,
Speaker 1: and especially being a working mom. And you know, my
Speaker 1: company is now global where in thirty different countries. I
Speaker 1: built this company from the ground up and and it's
Speaker 1: been incredible to watch the company grow and you know,
Speaker 1: see the results that my skincare is getting from people's
Speaker 1: skin all over the world, and it's super rewarding, but
Speaker 1: it needs my time and guidance. And there is so
Speaker 1: much that I want to do in my life and
Speaker 1: and at the same time, so I write down those
Speaker 1: lists like you do, and time things out so that
Speaker 1: they and I'm as organized as I can be. And
Speaker 1: then if things don't go to plan, then you just
Speaker 1: are like a willow tree. And I say to my team,
Speaker 1: let's be like a willow tree and go with the flow.
Speaker 1: Because in a storm, the willow tree doesn't break. It's
Speaker 1: the rigid oak that everyone assumes the oak tree is
Speaker 1: so strong, that's the tree that will break because it's
Speaker 1: too rigid. So it's important to have flexibility. So we
Speaker 1: make plans and then we have to adjust and adapt
Speaker 1: accordingly when things change. I've loved that analogy for so long,
Speaker 1: and you just shared that so beautifully. I think it's
Speaker 1: such a great lesson for all of us, because, like
Speaker 1: you said, we hang on to that certainty and that
Speaker 1: surety and that stability and will trying to make sure
Speaker 1: that it doesn't change. But you're so right that flexibility
Speaker 1: and adaptability is what allows you to continue to flow
Speaker 1: and grow during tough time and you mentioned there. You know,
Speaker 1: you've built this business from the ground up, you started it.
Speaker 1: But what I'm really interesting around there's going a couple
Speaker 1: of step back and talking about the pivot. You know,
Speaker 1: you're a really successful model or at the top of
Speaker 1: your career, you're on the front cover of every magazine,
Speaker 1: and then you decide to make this shift. Can you
Speaker 1: talk to us about how challenging or interesting that pivot was,
Speaker 1: because I think so many people today are trying to
Speaker 1: make purposeful pivots in their life. And I think everyone
Speaker 1: today is recognizing that they're more than their title, They're
Speaker 1: more than their job, They're more than the career that
Speaker 1: they've built. There can be so many other things. Can
Speaker 1: you talk to us a bit about how you thought
Speaker 1: about that pivot when you first began, when the business
Speaker 1: wasn't as successful as it is today. As I said,
Speaker 1: I grew up in this little country town in Australia
Speaker 1: and I had that I had, like there was so
Speaker 1: much love. We didn't have much money, but we had
Speaker 1: a lot of love and a lot of support from
Speaker 1: our whole family. Because you know, my aunts and uncles
Speaker 1: and cousins and everyone, and we're all very much into
Speaker 1: health and wellness and have been. And it's interesting because
Speaker 1: that really shaped who I am today growing up like that.
Speaker 1: And my grandmother taught me about nonie juice when I
Speaker 1: was thirteen, which is the key ingredient across my whole range.
Speaker 1: And then my mum got six she had cancer in
Speaker 1: her spleen. I think I was maybe sixteen at the time,
Speaker 1: and we then had to look through everything that we
Speaker 1: were doing as a family. And there was this little
Speaker 1: book that a friend of my mom's gave to her.
Speaker 1: It was called the Chemical Maze, and in this book
Speaker 1: it explained everything from like household products, cleaning products, products
Speaker 1: that you might have in the pantry, shampoo, skincare, makeup,
Speaker 1: and it explains like all the little numbers that you
Speaker 1: see on the back of packaged goods, whether that be
Speaker 1: personal products or whether that be ingestables, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: We assumed that we were living a healthy life, right
Speaker 1: because my grandparents had an organic vegetable patch and we
Speaker 1: ate lots of vegetables from the vegetable garden, and we
Speaker 1: were very much aware of health and wellness. And my
Speaker 1: grandma you introduced me to Alivia, as I said, she
Speaker 1: introduced me to known me. She's very much into all
Speaker 1: of these natural therapies, and so we were very surprised
Speaker 1: to see when we took a closer look at the
Speaker 1: fine print on the back of these packaged goods that
Speaker 1: there were so many potentially harmful and carcinogenic products. So
Speaker 1: we were exposing ourselves to unknowingly every single day, and
Speaker 1: we were horrified and like wow, horrified, but also like
Speaker 1: excited about the opportunity to learn more and find something
Speaker 1: that was truly able to serve the purpose, whether that
Speaker 1: be you a clear product at home, or a personal
Speaker 1: skincare product or a haircare that was healthier to what
Speaker 1: we had been using. And we just assumed that things
Speaker 1: were healthy, not like we just assumed that things were
Speaker 1: safe because they were sold on the shelf in the supermarket.
Speaker 1: And so it was kind of at that stage when
Speaker 1: I was like sixteen and as a family, going through
Speaker 1: that experience with my mum and really looking closely at
Speaker 1: all the ingredients, it really sparked a desire and a
Speaker 1: passion and an interest in me. And then I was
Speaker 1: talking to a friend of mine in two thousand and
Speaker 1: six in Australia and I was like, I haven't been
Speaker 1: able to find the truly certified organic skincare brand, and
Speaker 1: your skin is the largest organ. What you put on
Speaker 1: your skin soaks in. And I was like, do you
Speaker 1: know of anything, and she's like no, but let me
Speaker 1: speak to my friend who makes certified organic essential oils
Speaker 1: because maybe she knows. I speak to her. And then
Speaker 1: she's like, well, why don't you just create your own?
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, She's like, why don't you
Speaker 1: just speak to the lab, speak to the chemist, and like,
Speaker 1: you know, even if you just make it for yourself.
Speaker 1: So we started back and forth, and then originally I
Speaker 1: was just making it for myself and creating these products,
Speaker 1: and then either to send a product to my mom,
Speaker 1: which is the knownly glow Face oil, and she had
Speaker 1: at the time, she had like a psoriasis issue on
Speaker 1: her skin and the doctor had put her on a
Speaker 1: steroid cream, and it was really uncomfortable for my mom
Speaker 1: because she has naturally great skin and she never really
Speaker 1: was one to even wear makeup, so it really like
Speaker 1: hurt her confidence having this issue on her skin and
Speaker 1: having to put the steroid cream on, which she knew
Speaker 1: wasn't healthy for her. But she didn't have really another alternative,
Speaker 1: so I said, here, try this. I'm testing this new product.
Speaker 1: So she tried it and within a week her skin
Speaker 1: had cleared up and she's like, Granda, this is amazing.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, we got souls firsthand. Here, guys,
Speaker 1: let's keep going. And that's how it kind of all started.
Speaker 1: And it was just starting from like a passion that
Speaker 1: I had at the time when I launched in Australia
Speaker 1: in um we ended up launching at the end of
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, and I launched with a major
Speaker 1: department store there and then we went into little pharmacies
Speaker 1: and whatnot, and it was for me, it was a
Speaker 1: passion project about really getting these products out that from
Speaker 1: day one was certified organic. They were filtered through rose
Speaker 1: quartz crystals in the manufacturing process because I personally wanted
Speaker 1: that mind body skin connection. And they don't use any
Speaker 1: artificial fragrance. It's only essential oils and therapeutic grade essential oils,
Speaker 1: and each product has its own blend of those essential oils,
Speaker 1: so you're getting a benefit from that, whether that be
Speaker 1: uplifting like with our tumoric mask, or whether that be
Speaker 1: soothing with our milky mushroom cleanser and calming and also
Speaker 1: on the back of everyone of Courus products is a
Speaker 1: positive word to encourage that shift in your mindset. Like
Speaker 1: I was talking about before that we have a choice.
Speaker 1: So we can look outside and go, oh, I can't
Speaker 1: believe it's raining, or we can look outside and we
Speaker 1: can go, Wow, it's so lovely when it rains, it's
Speaker 1: so cozy, or we really needed that rain, like we
Speaker 1: can the way that we see the world can really
Speaker 1: transform our reality. So when I created Cora, first and foremost,
Speaker 1: I wanted clinically active, healthy, certified organic skincare like results
Speaker 1: driven like number one. Second of all, I wanted to
Speaker 1: really create something that was more than skincare that really
Speaker 1: would just uplift you when you're using it. And you
Speaker 1: could feel the energy from the crystals because they're energetic,
Speaker 1: you know, tools that have been used for many years
Speaker 1: and something I've lent on in my life. You feel
Speaker 1: the energy and the uplifting element from the aromatherapy, and
Speaker 1: you also feel the energy from the intention behind it
Speaker 1: that like every product has, like the face level has,
Speaker 1: like bliss on the back of the product. The new
Speaker 1: moisturizer that we're about to launch has like peace, so
Speaker 1: you feel that intention behind it. So everything's really intentional
Speaker 1: and hopefully creates little rituals in your life as opposed
Speaker 1: to just some monotonous skincare routine. That is amazing, congratulations.
Speaker 1: I love hearing about the journey and the story and
Speaker 1: the steps and the intensity of the research and finding
Speaker 1: all these old, amazing gems of healing substances and technologies
Speaker 1: that are being used now. And I actually saw this
Speaker 1: article from US saying why women everywhere trust Mirandicas Cora Organics,
Speaker 1: And I think that that word is so important, trust,
Speaker 1: Like I think there are things in the world that sell,
Speaker 1: there are things in the world that are very popular,
Speaker 1: but then trust is deeper than all of those things.
Speaker 1: I mean, Miranda, how does that feel when you think, Wow,
Speaker 1: like people trust the work that we're doing like that,
Speaker 1: That must feel amazing, Like what does that feel like?
Speaker 1: That feels so rewarding to me because I have started
Speaker 1: this company from day one trying to create these transformational
Speaker 1: products that are healthy for you, that are you know,
Speaker 1: clinically active, going to uplift you as well at the
Speaker 1: same time, and my intention has always been to put
Speaker 1: these products out there and create these products to really
Speaker 1: help people. I've never taken assent from the company because
Speaker 1: it's my baby. You just put everything into it, and
Speaker 1: I do it because of my love and my passion
Speaker 1: for health and wellness and for helping people. I don't
Speaker 1: actually need to work like I could semi retire, and
Speaker 1: I often will say to myself, what am I doing
Speaker 1: this work again? But I realize that I have something
Speaker 1: really special here. I'm not creating this product line to
Speaker 1: make it really huge and then sell it for all
Speaker 1: this money. What I'm doing is I'm trying to create
Speaker 1: something special that can really make a difference to people's skin.
Speaker 1: And my hope is that I can hand down this
Speaker 1: company to my three boys, just like Estey Lauder was
Speaker 1: handed down through their family, and they can continue my
Speaker 1: legacy and that these products will continue to help people's
Speaker 1: skin and spirit long after I'm gone. So it feels
Speaker 1: like a big blessing to me to be able to
Speaker 1: create products that give people the results that they need
Speaker 1: in a really healthy way. That's good for them, it's
Speaker 1: good for the environment, and it hopefully adds that uplifting
Speaker 1: element to their life as well, so they feel like
Speaker 1: more connected to themselves through the experience of these little
Speaker 1: rituals that I've created, Like for example, like, I know
Speaker 1: this might be too much for some people, but I
Speaker 1: like this example myself and I do as you hear
Speaker 1: like practices with my children. The forgiveness part right, because
Speaker 1: we're all human beings. So with the milky mushroom cleanser,
Speaker 1: I created this cleanser, so you shake it to activate it.
Speaker 1: It has the silvery and mushroom in there. It comes
Speaker 1: out like this milky oil based cleanser. On the back
Speaker 1: of the packaging is forgiveness. So while you're cleansing your skin,
Speaker 1: you're also cleansing your spirit. So you take that opportunity.
Speaker 1: Because we cleanse our skin generally morning and night. We
Speaker 1: have that as a little ritual that we're cleansing our skin,
Speaker 1: we're also peacemaking forgiving us selves and forgiving anyone that
Speaker 1: may have intentionally or unintentionally hurt ourselves. And at the
Speaker 1: same time, another crystal is infused into that, which is
Speaker 1: a clear quote, which is also about bringing clarity. So
Speaker 1: you've got the rose quots for the love and the
Speaker 1: nurturing and the clear quotes for bringing clarity, and so
Speaker 1: to me, that just feels like such a lovely ritual.
Speaker 1: And then it has the essential oils of rose, geranium
Speaker 1: and basil, which you're all anti anxiety essential oils that
Speaker 1: really calm the spirit. And like, so I just to me,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm crazy, but that type of
Speaker 1: experience like really empowers me because I don't have much
Speaker 1: time in my life and so to have that experience
Speaker 1: whilst I'm doing a monotonous thing like cleansing my face
Speaker 1: gives back to me and I want to share that
Speaker 1: with other people. Yes, yes, I love that. I don't
Speaker 1: think it makes you sound crazy. I mean everything's very thoughtful.
Speaker 1: It's intentional. It's mindful, ladies, mind body spirit in the
Speaker 1: sense that you do something, like you said, monotonous for
Speaker 1: your face, but actually it's impacting your spirit, and it's
Speaker 1: impacting your mind and it's impacting your senses. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's absolutely phenomenal. I wonder, did you, Miranda, come across
Speaker 1: any hurdles or failures or setbacks in the beginning that
Speaker 1: you think entrepreneurs and founders can be mindful of, Because
Speaker 1: when you're trying to create something so purpose based, and
Speaker 1: when you're trying to create something like you have that
Speaker 1: is so much about creating a product that actually helps people.
Speaker 1: Can you walk me through maybe some of the challenges
Speaker 1: that you had as well, because I think sometimes people
Speaker 1: have a romantic view that oh, if I'm passionate and
Speaker 1: I love something, then things just work out. And we
Speaker 1: know that's not true even if you have good intentions,
Speaker 1: because so can you walk us through that, because you
Speaker 1: obviously seem like such a well intentioned human being. But
Speaker 1: I want people to also realize that there's been a
Speaker 1: lot of hard work and focus and figuring things out
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I mean there is so much hard
Speaker 1: work and focus and commitment, an unwavering commitment, because even
Speaker 1: from day one, I was told that no, people don't
Speaker 1: want they don't care if it's an organic product, like,
Speaker 1: no one cares about that. And I was like, but
Speaker 1: I do I really care about that. I want a
Speaker 1: certified organic product. I don't just want an organic product
Speaker 1: or a natural product or a clean product. It needs
Speaker 1: to be certified organic. And the reason for me that
Speaker 1: it needs to be certified organic is because of all
Speaker 1: of my research from when my mum got sick. What
Speaker 1: we realized is that, and what is now scientifically proven
Speaker 1: is that they're up to sixty percent more antioxidants in
Speaker 1: an organic ingredient. So therefore you're going to get a
Speaker 1: better result for your skin from using certified organic products.
Speaker 1: You'll get higher antioxidant content. And so I don't want
Speaker 1: to put something on my skin just because it's healthy
Speaker 1: for me. I want it to be results driven. And
Speaker 1: so not only do you not have the pesticide sprayed
Speaker 1: on the organic crops, you don't have the added unnecessary
Speaker 1: things added to it that might be detrimental to your health.
Speaker 1: In addition to that, Yeah, but you also have like
Speaker 1: sixty percent more antioxidants. So to me, it was like
Speaker 1: such a no brain up. But everyone was like, no
Speaker 1: one cares if it's organic. Why don't you just call
Speaker 1: your brand Cora and then you're going to be able
Speaker 1: to have more flexibility. Why do you need to be organic?
Speaker 1: And I was like, because it's organic. It's like that's
Speaker 1: the whole reason I eat organic. And it needs to
Speaker 1: be certified. And being certified organic is a really really big,
Speaker 1: long like process, and so we're certified by the World
Speaker 1: Certification Body ECOSO COSMAS, and there are so many details
Speaker 1: and audits that we have to go through, that our
Speaker 1: all of our chemists have to go through, the manufacturers
Speaker 1: have to go through. That's why people don't necessarily do it,
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of time, it's a lot of effort,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of money. But that way people really know,
Speaker 1: if you don't have to take my word for it,
Speaker 1: I have an outside body looking in, like like big brother,
Speaker 1: on everything that I'm doing and every word that I
Speaker 1: write on the packaging because I write all the pop
Speaker 1: copy because it comes from my heart, and that all
Speaker 1: has to be approved by ecost Cosmos, and it tells
Speaker 1: you very explicitly, like you know, ninety eight percent comes
Speaker 1: from organic farming, you know, two percent from natural and
Speaker 1: it's very clear, you know, and it's and that is
Speaker 1: the way it should be. It should be clear, and
Speaker 1: it should be and there is so much noise out
Speaker 1: there in the world that I wanted it to be
Speaker 1: like that, and a lot of people in the beginning
Speaker 1: poo pooed me on that. And I was actually the
Speaker 1: leader in the clean beauty category and still to this day,
Speaker 1: we're still the only certified organic brand that Sephora carries,
Speaker 1: like the whole brand and and people are still saying
Speaker 1: to me, like, well, why don't you just call it
Speaker 1: KRA then you'll have more flexibility, you can use more chemicals.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, that takes away the principle. And
Speaker 1: that's the whole thing and the whole reason why this
Speaker 1: company is ninety five mine and I invested, you know,
Speaker 1: all of my money that I worked really hard in,
Speaker 1: like with my career, because that's a whole nother story,
Speaker 1: but that was like a six day a week, two
Speaker 1: different countries a week job, and it actually gave me
Speaker 1: a lot of experience to know what works underneath makeup,
Speaker 1: to know what makes your skin from a texture point
Speaker 1: of view. And then I wanted to create the certified
Speaker 1: organic version of that so that it was, you know,
Speaker 1: such a healthy experience for people not just looked good
Speaker 1: underneath makeup. But it was so and it still is
Speaker 1: so fun for me to work without chemists who I
Speaker 1: believe are just like the best in the world, and
Speaker 1: I work back and forth with them on like this
Speaker 1: is what I'm thinking and feeling and this is a
Speaker 1: cool ingredient and what do you think about this? And
Speaker 1: we go back and forth and really push the boundaries
Speaker 1: and then we do all the studies to back it up,
Speaker 1: and we do before and after photos of people's skin
Speaker 1: to really show the transformation, and it's just it's like
Speaker 1: magic that happens before your eyes. And then you get
Speaker 1: all the heartwarming testimonials and you're like, Okay, I am
Speaker 1: doing it right. Even though people have said, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? Like this is crazy? No one cares about organics.
Speaker 1: And even still to this day, I have people say
Speaker 1: to me, you know, people only care about clean, they
Speaker 1: don't care about organic. People don't understand what you're talking
Speaker 1: about when you say organic, And I'm like, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: This is something that when they do understand, and if
Speaker 1: they did research, then they would never want to use
Speaker 1: anything else. They would always want to look for certified
Speaker 1: organic products. So it's all about education and I'm trying
Speaker 1: to my best educate people so at least they can
Speaker 1: make a conscious choice, because that's the most important thing.
Speaker 1: You don't have to use my products, like because I'm
Speaker 1: saying so, it's a choice that you make because you're
Speaker 1: educated and you know what the difference is. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean your passion and energy for what you're doing
Speaker 1: is absolutely infectious. I'm just listening to you and I'm
Speaker 1: watching it. I'm thinking, wow, Like the amount of research
Speaker 1: that's been done, the amount of breaking down every part
Speaker 1: of it that exists in this journey, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: I'm really blown away. Honestly, I'm not just saying that.
Speaker 1: I speak to so many founders and we speak to
Speaker 1: so many CEOs, and we speak about so many companies,
Speaker 1: but I can just tell how much this product is
Speaker 1: your heart. And that's so beautiful. And I heard that
Speaker 1: you actually have another exciting product coming out on the
Speaker 1: twenty first of April, I believe, yes, just after my birthday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: could you tell us a bit about that? Yeah, So
Speaker 1: the newest moisture as this is our Active Algae lightweight moisturizer.
Speaker 1: And as you can see, this is symbolic of an
Speaker 1: aquamarine crystal, and it is filtered through and touches upon
Speaker 1: rose quartz and aquamarine crystals. And it is a beautiful,
Speaker 1: as I said, lightweight gel moisturizer that has a refillable jar,
Speaker 1: so you buy the glass jar once and then the
Speaker 1: refilled pods thereafter. And so what I love about this
Speaker 1: is it's a hydrating, creamy gel. I actually have one
Speaker 1: open over here, so I can show you my little
Speaker 1: workspace here, and it's kind of very lightweight and bouncy.
Speaker 1: It's for people that are looking for a lightweight hydration
Speaker 1: because we have our Tumeric moisturizer, and the Tumeric moisturizer
Speaker 1: is more of like a rich, a very rich, creamy
Speaker 1: Tumeric moisturizer. People are obsessed, and this is more of
Speaker 1: the lightweight version. But both of them have incredible results,
Speaker 1: and the ingredients in this new lightweight moisturizer are really
Speaker 1: just super powerful. They have green algae and it's sustainably
Speaker 1: farmed in the US. The green algae that we source
Speaker 1: for this, and it has the bioactive lipids in there
Speaker 1: and the central fatty acids to help fight against aging.
Speaker 1: It helps improve dullness, even skin tone. Your skin is
Speaker 1: brighter and firmer, and we've got all the photos to
Speaker 1: prove that on different skin types and skin tones. It
Speaker 1: also has green tea in here, which we use a
Speaker 1: lot of green tea in a lot of Core Organics
Speaker 1: products and it's very soothing and purifying. It calms redness
Speaker 1: and inflammation. It also has alpine rows that we source
Speaker 1: from the Swiss alps and that's superpowered with antioxidants helps
Speaker 1: protect yoursel skin. And then we have a Swiss Glacier
Speaker 1: water as another key ingredient that we actually encapsulated into
Speaker 1: lipizones in here. So there's tiny little lipizons in here
Speaker 1: that have the Swiss Glacier water on there so that
Speaker 1: when you apply it, they burst onto your skin and
Speaker 1: you it maintains the freshness and so it's very soothing
Speaker 1: and cooling, and it gives you that long lasting hydration
Speaker 1: without any you know, tackiness. So it's like really great
Speaker 1: as a base for makeup. As I said, it's got
Speaker 1: all your essential fatty acids in there. It helps minimize
Speaker 1: the appearance of fine lines and wrinkles, it helps minimize paes,
Speaker 1: and it just gives you that long lasting hydration. I
Speaker 1: called this the green juice super food for your skin
Speaker 1: because it literally is like a green juice super food
Speaker 1: for your skin. And as I said, we can the
Speaker 1: results are incredible, Like people before and after results are
Speaker 1: just mind blowing. People are just loving it. And that's
Speaker 1: what makes my heart seeing to make products that are
Speaker 1: healthy for people and super results driven. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: all about. Yeah, Miranda, I think you've given us so
Speaker 1: much to consider, and I'm sure if there's any entrepreneurs
Speaker 1: listening or any people who are pivoting into that space,
Speaker 1: I feel like you're you would have given it everyone
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence and reassurance that knowing that you're
Speaker 1: creating something that's going to get people results, that's going
Speaker 1: to make a change, that is the authentic and the
Speaker 1: integrity based version of what you want to create has
Speaker 1: a space in the world. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: I'm really taking away is that as a founder and
Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur, all I'm hearing from you is authenticity, integrity, integrity,
Speaker 1: building something that you really believe in and you know
Speaker 1: is going to help people. And I love those messages
Speaker 1: coming out. You've been so kind and generous with your time.
Speaker 1: We end every episode of On Purpose with what I
Speaker 1: call the Final Five. These final five questions have to
Speaker 1: be answered in one word to one sentence maximum, and
Speaker 1: they are a short, fast five that help us remember
Speaker 1: some of these amazing piece of wisdom. So, Mirandica, are
Speaker 1: you ready for your final five? I'm ready as all
Speaker 1: over Bay amazing. So the first question is what is
Speaker 1: the best advice you've ever received. I think it's probably
Speaker 1: from my mom. It's like, if you're going to do something,
Speaker 1: do it with your whole heart. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: I think that's a beautiful piece of advice. What is
Speaker 1: the worst advice you've ever received or heard? To go
Speaker 1: against your intuition? If you really feel deeply about something
Speaker 1: and you know in your heart, like, don't fight against that,
Speaker 1: that's the worst advice, Like, don't just think because it's
Speaker 1: ticking boxes in your head that you should go for
Speaker 1: it when the lambills are ringing inside of you. I
Speaker 1: love that. I've done that so many times, and I've
Speaker 1: always regretted it when I have. If I've ever gone
Speaker 1: against that, it never feels good. So fully agree with you. Okay.
Speaker 1: Question number three? What is something that you used to
Speaker 1: value but you don't value as much anymore? Well? I
Speaker 1: used to. I don't know if value. I used to
Speaker 1: appreciate like the whole, like glamour and fun of different events,
Speaker 1: But now I much preferred to stay home and be
Speaker 1: with my family like I really do. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what event it is or if the Queen's going to
Speaker 1: be there, God bless her soul. Like what means the
Speaker 1: most to me is just spending quality time with my family.
Speaker 1: I love that question Number four. What's the first thing
Speaker 1: you do in the morning and the last thing you
Speaker 1: do at night? Kiss my husband? Both love that. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: What a great answer. And fifth question and final question
Speaker 1: and if you could create one law that everyone in
Speaker 1: the world had to follow, or one habit that they
Speaker 1: had to do every day, what would it be? Have
Speaker 1: an attitude of gratitude? Beautiful? If we could all be
Speaker 1: grateful for everything that we have, the simple things like
Speaker 1: a roof over our head, like the fact that we
Speaker 1: can see, the fact that we can talk, the fact
Speaker 1: that we're alive, the fact that we're breathing. If we
Speaker 1: can be grateful for those simple things, the world would
Speaker 1: be a better place because we'd all be more content
Speaker 1: within ourselves. And when you're content within yourself and you're
Speaker 1: grateful for everything, then that attracts more of that into
Speaker 1: your life. That's such a beautiful message, Miranda, And you
Speaker 1: can tell that you live that and it just flows
Speaker 1: effortlessly from you and just radiates from all your energy.
Speaker 1: And thank you so much today for teaching us so
Speaker 1: much through your example, your ideas, your passion that was
Speaker 1: just that raw energy that hopefully I didn't go on
Speaker 1: and ramble too much. I can go off on little tangents,
Speaker 1: but that's just I love I mean, that's what podcasts afore,
Speaker 1: That's why I love it, because we have so much
Speaker 1: time to really get into it, and to be honest,
Speaker 1: I was just really moved and touched by how much
Speaker 1: I can tell these products mean to you and how
Speaker 1: much you know they mean to others, and to hear
Speaker 1: how deeply refined your approach is is really exciting for me.
Speaker 1: Like that, that just gives me so much confidence that
Speaker 1: anyone who listens to this episode will recognize that. Being that,
Speaker 1: if you don't mind me using the word in a
Speaker 1: good way, being that geeky about what you love is
Speaker 1: the coolest thing you can do, because then you're going
Speaker 1: to create something that actually positively impacts people's lives. So
Speaker 1: thank you for showing us that and showing us how
Speaker 1: amazing that can be. Ah, thank you. I really appreciate
Speaker 1: your time, and you're doing incredible things in this world.
Speaker 1: So I can't wait to actually catch up with you
Speaker 1: in person. But until then, you take care. Yeah, same, Miranda,
Speaker 1: And everyone's been listening or watching, make sure you tag
Speaker 1: me and Miranda on Instagram, on Twitter, across any platform
Speaker 1: that you're using, and let us know what resonated with you,
Speaker 1: what connected with you, what products you're trying, and maybe
Speaker 1: if you already use them. I really want to hear
Speaker 1: from you, so make sure that you get engaged in
Speaker 1: Miranda and I will be looking out for what you're
Speaker 1: sharing and what you're posting out there. Miranda, I thank
Speaker 1: you again for your time and your energy, and I
Speaker 1: thank everyone for listening and watching all over the world.
Speaker 1: Makes you pass this along to someone who also may
Speaker 1: need to hear it. Thank you for listening to on purpose.
Speaker 1: We'll be back again next week, and Miranda, thank you
Speaker 1: so much from the bottom of my heart. So grateful
Speaker 1: to you. Thank you to you. Lots of love.