WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Under-the-Radar

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot

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<v Speaker 1>screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys apt Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicky Spagnola and here it is. It's a Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>at the Star in Frisco. And Everson Walls, when he's

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<v Speaker 1>signed on from Mick Shots today, was asking what winds?

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<v Speaker 1>What day is it? It's a victory? What you know

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<v Speaker 1>what this is? Everson? It just occurred to me, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what? Okay, Well, what am I gonna say? Wednesday? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a winning Wednesday? You know what it also is

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good Year Cotton Bowl when that makes it

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<v Speaker 1>even more of a winning Winds day. And salute to

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<v Speaker 1>you Texas long Horns out there. The long Horns win

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<v Speaker 1>the Alamo Bowl last night. Yes, they finished off the

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<v Speaker 1>season and they found a quarterback in Casey Thompson in

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<v Speaker 1>the second half of that game. And Mickey, how's Missouri

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it? It's bowl game later this afternoon they

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna cancel. Hey, Missouri is playing Grambling State where

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna play Valentine's Day, right, spa, right, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have our bowl game. You can't, you can't let you

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<v Speaker 1>can't let kids go home for Christmas. I just you

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<v Speaker 1>just can't. No, you can't. That's right. You know it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because oh you Lincoln Riley said, Uh, they decided

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<v Speaker 1>to send their kids home for Christmas, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>had their COVID report come out yesterday and they had

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<v Speaker 1>no COVID reports, nobody positive. I talked to a coach,

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<v Speaker 1>an assistant coach at another Big twelve school, and texted

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<v Speaker 1>him and said, hey, Riley sent his players home, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, well, let's see if they're able to play

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<v Speaker 1>the game next Wednesday. But it looks like they're gonna play.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think everybody, I think everybody on the team's

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<v Speaker 1>already had COVID and so they were. They were good.

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<v Speaker 1>Therefore there's no risk. Yeah, that's that's right, that's right. Yeah, supposedly, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Missouri had a calcarious outbreak and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they got accused of of making a phony cancelation

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<v Speaker 1>because they didn't want to get beat bad again. Who

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<v Speaker 1>are they supposed to play? Iowa? They could play, You

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<v Speaker 1>can't beat Iowa having those bags. I've seen you guys

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<v Speaker 1>play well. And right now we've got Wake for Us

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<v Speaker 1>taken on Wisconsin in the something the Duke's Mayo Bowl. Hey, Mickey,

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<v Speaker 1>can you name it? Mickey? Can you name a Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>player who went to Wake Forest? Not a current one,

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<v Speaker 1>all time, all time Cowboys player, Come on, all time

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<v Speaker 1>roster who went to Wake four? Oh, it's the running back?

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<v Speaker 1>Um um. I can't think of his name, and I

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<v Speaker 1>could see him. I talked to him all the time

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<v Speaker 1>play tennis. Again. No, not Dennison. There's there's a linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>still playing in the league who went to Wake for

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<v Speaker 1>Us who started his career with the Cowboy Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>his name, his name just came as this question. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious too, it's it's the run To answer the question,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm extremely curious on who this guy is. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>running back, isn't it. Oh? No, that was Winston Salem. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not Wake for Us, Timmy Newsome, Kyle WILLI will you? Yes? Five?

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<v Speaker 1>He made a tow Wilbur went to Wake for He

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<v Speaker 1>made a tackle in the other the other last week

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<v Speaker 1>or so when I was watching Always it's always the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest play that Kyle Wilbur. Yeah, he's with the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's the greatest play Kyle Wilbur made in his

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys career, Noyle, you got me there that Thursday night

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<v Speaker 1>game in Minnesota when he recovered the fumble on the

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<v Speaker 1>muff punt a couple of few years ago. Anyway, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's move on. I think Bill is related to him,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it is. Let's move on to current day

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys because the Cowboys is not only Mickey Spagnola who

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<v Speaker 1>is at work at the in the s WBC Mortgage

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<v Speaker 1>studios inside Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, but

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are back to work at Forde Center at

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<v Speaker 1>the Star in Frisco, right, Mickey. And aren't they glad

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<v Speaker 1>they've got the Ford Center because it's been pouring here

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<v Speaker 1>all morning long. So they again had the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>practice indoors on Wednesday. Uh, they were in shells, had

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<v Speaker 1>the music blaring because this is going to be away

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<v Speaker 1>game with no fans. But maybe they were trying nicky.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know this because I thought when they're

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<v Speaker 1>indoors that no reporters could be inside Ford Center to

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<v Speaker 1>witness practice. Or were you able to be only the

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<v Speaker 1>two special reporters myself and Rob Philip. This is Jerry's boy, Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry's boy. Come on man, cree pandemic. Come on man.

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<v Speaker 1>They were sharing ice cream together and whatever they were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about me. Come on man, this is a this

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<v Speaker 1>is a company kept man right here with talking about

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<v Speaker 1>on this. Yeah. I wish, I wish all that was true.

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<v Speaker 1>We were the pool reporters and we had to brave

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<v Speaker 1>the outdoor elements to get into the Ford Center to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to give you a sanitized report on what

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<v Speaker 1>happened in practice. And that sanitize I must say before

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<v Speaker 1>you continue, SPADs, if they're going to try, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>simulate noise, then why not simulate bad weather as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're going to be outdoors. Correct, they may be

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<v Speaker 1>outdoors tomorrow. They may be outdoors tomorrow. They've been practicing

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<v Speaker 1>indoors on Wednesday, uh for the last month or so

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<v Speaker 1>so uh And I don't know if that was to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the other media away or what, or they just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to let them into the facility after the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL cracked down on the COVID nineteen protocols. Uh. So, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you, I gotta ask you go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think Tom Landry would would allow us to

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<v Speaker 1>be indoors before this game? You had, you had no choice,

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<v Speaker 1>You had no facility, wells looas Fieldhouse, remember Undhouse. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why was your indoor facility. You actually would. It

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<v Speaker 1>is just an alternative spot. When the field is so

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<v Speaker 1>wet and the grass was so soggy, we would go

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<v Speaker 1>to Lows and practice on our turf still outdoors, outdoors,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was only because it was better footing on

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<v Speaker 1>their turf as opposed to the natural grass that we

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<v Speaker 1>had when Tom Langer was there. Yeah, there's no sense

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<v Speaker 1>messing up field House too. There's no sense miss messing

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<v Speaker 1>up practice just because the weather's bad. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have an alternative, you gotta get reps right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>having seen the team stretch warm up drills, I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that Layton vander Esh was not practicing. Donovan Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>who made it back for the game, was not practicing. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>neither was Darian Thompson who's in concussion protocol. And Ezekiel

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott came out out probably did whatever he does before

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<v Speaker 1>practice on his own and then came out and got

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<v Speaker 1>on the resistance chords. I would imagine he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be limited, and they did designate Zach Martin on

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<v Speaker 1>reserve injured return, but he wasn't going to do anything

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<v Speaker 1>more than rehab work. It looked like maybe work on

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<v Speaker 1>the continue working on the resistance chords. So that's your

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<v Speaker 1>guys who were and were not available for practice today.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see Xavier Woods? You mentioned Woods? I did not,

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<v Speaker 1>and Xavier Woods was out there taking part in everything

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<v Speaker 1>we saw that we were allowed to see, and it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like he intended to practice. He had a helmet

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<v Speaker 1>with him, so it looked like he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>do something. Mike McCarthy said he probably would be limited,

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<v Speaker 1>but felt like he would move into practice a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more after they see what he was able to

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<v Speaker 1>do with that rib injury. We're based on the limited

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<v Speaker 1>information that you know, spags. Are those situations apt to change? What?

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<v Speaker 1>Does Layton have a chance to play? Uh? Does does

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson have a chance to come out of the the concussion protocol? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>If this is not the final, say so right? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>does Zach Martins have a chance now? He he does not.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry mentioned it on his radio segment yesterday that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>for the future, but probably not this week. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Layton's done. Um, I mean, he's not gonna play. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got a high ankle spring. Those things are usually three

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<v Speaker 1>to four weeks, so I don't know if he would

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<v Speaker 1>even make it if they ended up qualifying for the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say no on Darien for the NFC Championship. Ye, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>yes he would. Bill I met the first the first

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<v Speaker 1>playoff game, right and Day and Thompson in in concussion protocol.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that one's going to be if he makes

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<v Speaker 1>it back or not. Usually you end up missing a week.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of the Cowboys' injury port at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm listening to those safeties and with Donovan Wilson if

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<v Speaker 1>he aggravated his growing I mean things if if, if

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<v Speaker 1>Woods isn't able to make it back and Thompson not

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<v Speaker 1>out of concussion protocol, they're starting to get thin at safety. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>as they did in the game. Now, from what I

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<v Speaker 1>saw Woods doing in the portion we get to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say seventy five percent chance he plays. He

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<v Speaker 1>looked like he was moving pretty well. But you're right

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<v Speaker 1>on Thompson and Donovan Wilson and even if those two

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<v Speaker 1>are ready to go, they may have to get Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis actual some snaps at safety, which he moved there,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike Nolan pointed out that he really didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>any snaps in practice that week, and he basically, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when they got to Saturday or whatever and they talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it, he said that Jordan Luce said, just put

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<v Speaker 1>me out there and tell me what the what the

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<v Speaker 1>calls are, I'm good to go. And you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>had the one play that he I think he ended

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<v Speaker 1>up getting called for interference on, but other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he got got a few snaps back there,

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see where that goes. The previous week made

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<v Speaker 1>some I thought he made a big leap in the

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<v Speaker 1>playmaking ability, made some big plays in the previous game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's been a big part of this third

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<v Speaker 1>down resurgence by the Cowboys. Uh, Like I said, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not this past week, but the week prior to that.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's uh, you know, how there is sometimes things

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<v Speaker 1>clicked for guys, Just like with Anthony Brown, he and

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan at one point seemed to really understand from that

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<v Speaker 1>slot position just how important it is for you to

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<v Speaker 1>make plays instead of just being just another another stick

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<v Speaker 1>man out there. They weren't looking, they weren't reacting, they

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<v Speaker 1>were anticipating. And that's what I loved about what Anthony did.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been seeing that from Jordan Lewis as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so Donovan Wilson the growing right. He's trying to come

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<v Speaker 1>back from that in the week. I tried that once

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<v Speaker 1>played against the Giants the previous week. O J. Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>lifted me up on his elbow and brought me down

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<v Speaker 1>on my one leg and it shook something. I still

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<v Speaker 1>have a knot down there. It's never going away. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had never missed a game or play actually, and

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<v Speaker 1>so here there's my chance to I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>miss a game. So they were trying to get me

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<v Speaker 1>to go against Minnesota the next week. It was it

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<v Speaker 1>was no go. I couldn't do anything. They wrapped me.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I lost feeling in the leg because

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<v Speaker 1>they wrapped it so tight, so that I wasn't doing

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<v Speaker 1>well anywhere. I couldn't even feel it. I got out

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<v Speaker 1>there and tried to play a couple of times. Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>car There ran by me so fast. I'm like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing my team any good. So I have.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of my few injuries I've had, the growing was

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. And yeah, I'm not looking for Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>to come back. They didn't just put a little Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Gay on it, and so they get out there big boy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the day, that was kind of the stablish quo. Right, Yeah, absolutely, Hey, Everson,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to get your take on Trayvon Diggs. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he makes that interception the other day and I immediately

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<v Speaker 1>thought of Everson. Uh, you know, he just has that

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<v Speaker 1>natural playmaking ability, the hands, the the instincts, wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>type instincts, whatever, that's exactly what this secondary needs. They did,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I like I like the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>to me, all interceptions are good interceptions. You could say

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<v Speaker 1>it was a blowout at the time or whatever. He

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<v Speaker 1>needed that interception, and after coming back and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>giving up some plays. Uh, it's been a tough year

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<v Speaker 1>for him. I know about those tough years. I was

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<v Speaker 1>blessed enough. You know, I got beat as much as

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<v Speaker 1>as as as Diggs did this year. I got beat

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<v Speaker 1>in that nineteen eighty one, my rookie year. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just able to come back and counter that with interceptions.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he hadn't gotten nearly as many as I have.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you get that one or two or what

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<v Speaker 1>they say, have three on the years, three, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>that's like, that is not bad for a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>came in he's missed some games, and to have three interceptions,

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<v Speaker 1>that is not bad for a rookie to come in

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<v Speaker 1>highly touted. And let's be let's be clear, if he

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<v Speaker 1>gets another one in this game, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>saying that this is a successful rookie campaign for Diggs

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<v Speaker 1>and he'll have a couple more playoff games too, right

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<v Speaker 1>that those count? Of course? Yeah, yeah, all the way

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<v Speaker 1>to the ye. You got a couple of your rookie

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<v Speaker 1>year in the playoffs, didn't you? I did, I got

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<v Speaker 1>I got a couple in San Francisco. I did? I did?

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<v Speaker 1>I have two interceptions and the fumble recovery, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's not forget that while we think of that

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<v Speaker 1>game in other in other ways, Well, you get some

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<v Speaker 1>skittles for all that. Thank you, Thank you. We could

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<v Speaker 1>we could name an MVP award after skittles. How about that,

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<v Speaker 1>the Skittles MVP Award. How how much do you think

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<v Speaker 1>Trayvon Diggs and CD Lamb for that matter, two rookies

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<v Speaker 1>top draft picks, your first and second round draft picks.

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<v Speaker 1>How much do you think they have grown as players

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<v Speaker 1>even since the start of the regular season. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's so much, especially involving this season. You know, these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are gonna come into twenty twenty one more more seeded.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they're they're gonna have more experienced mentally, they have.

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<v Speaker 1>They have gone through so much more than any other

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<v Speaker 1>rookies have gone through this rookie class of twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>over the entire NFL, and especially being with the Dallas Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>with the ups and downs that we've had. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at Cedee Lamb, I'm if I'm Cede Lamb, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at myself saying, you know what, I made some

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes this season, as a rookie should. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at all the quarterbacks that I've had thrown me

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and you look at my final numbers, those

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<v Speaker 1>some great numbers. Those some great numbers. Just like I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about with Digs. You know, he was injured for

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<v Speaker 1>most of a lot of the season, came back, got

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<v Speaker 1>the interception. Season's not over. He could get more he'll

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<v Speaker 1>have one of the better rookie campaigns even at this

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<v Speaker 1>point than any dB we've had in recent history with

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<v Speaker 1>the Dallas Cowboys. All right, we're just getting started on

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<v Speaker 1>this edition of Mixed Shots. We got so much to

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<v Speaker 1>get to, including news out of Washington. Huh, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of interesting. Who might be starting a quarterback on Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>Game top ranked alub Mamma at number four Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 1>in a national semi final. You know, Mickey, and ever

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<v Speaker 1>than eighteen thousand fans at the college games this week,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you think it's gone, Mickey? This year? With

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<v Speaker 1>fans in the stands at Cowboys games where there's been

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<v Speaker 1>as many as thirty thousand there. Yeah, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>the way, as big as that stadium is, thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of less than a third capacity. The people

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<v Speaker 1>are spaced out so much. I mean, when you're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there and we're pretty high in the press box, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like there's thirty thousand people in the stadium

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<v Speaker 1>now where you see kind of get a feel for

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<v Speaker 1>it if you get there. You know, normally I get

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<v Speaker 1>there two hours two and a half hours before kickoff.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you get there about an hour or before kickoff,

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<v Speaker 1>there's you know, a lot of people walking around outside.

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<v Speaker 1>But other than that, you know, it seems like it's

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<v Speaker 1>gone seamlessly. Now Here's the thing though, for tonight, for

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<v Speaker 1>the college game. You know, the Cowboys when they've played

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<v Speaker 1>those day games, or even if it's been a night game,

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<v Speaker 1>the doors are open and the roof's open. But when

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<v Speaker 1>it's raining, I don't think you can get the airflow

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<v Speaker 1>that Jerry was talking about unless they want to get

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<v Speaker 1>rain coming in. I guess you could leave the doors open,

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<v Speaker 1>but the roof would have to be closed, and that

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't happened in a game yet. That's right. It's interesting. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't even think they ever would have envisioned,

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<v Speaker 1>even when they built the stadium that they would have

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<v Speaker 1>the roof open for a game in which it was

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<v Speaker 1>raining outside. Yeah, let's open it up and just have

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of like old times. Yeah, it's probably not

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<v Speaker 1>better be wet and get COVID, be gevid. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't think it's probably good for

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<v Speaker 1>the video board to get rain on. Hey guys, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a I had I have a problem here in

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<v Speaker 1>regards to how things stack up this weekend. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were all talking about what the Cowboys have to

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<v Speaker 1>do right to stay in and that's all finally good.

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<v Speaker 1>We feel like we're gonna handle our business in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>But what do you think Philadelphia is gonna do with

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<v Speaker 1>the Redskins? Do they hate the Redskins more than they

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<v Speaker 1>hate the Cowboys? Okay? Are they gonna lay down and

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<v Speaker 1>allow this team to go into to win the game

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<v Speaker 1>and go into the playoffs? Is little is little Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Schwartz right? Is he gonna be stubborn as always and

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<v Speaker 1>refuse to lay down as maybe some Philadelphia fans might

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<v Speaker 1>want him to I think it's a very interesting notion.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone brought up to me that Philly just might take

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<v Speaker 1>this game to spite us. What do you guys think. Well, now,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Schortz, what he is telling the media is that

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<v Speaker 1>is that we're gonna call us. We need to make

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<v Speaker 1>this a no cap day, that Washington doesn't come into

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<v Speaker 1>our place and put division champion caps on in our stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the motivation that he's using for his players

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Do you believe him? Oh? Yeah, him, absolutely, Yeah, Jim.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim hates to lose. What guys recall when he got

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<v Speaker 1>mad at Jim harballf of not shaking his hand properly

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<v Speaker 1>when both of them were head coaches in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and he chased him down as as Hallball was going

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<v Speaker 1>into the locker room and he confronted him about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Overenthusias asked the handshake at the end of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the gym SS I want to see on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see a nice GYMSS. I want

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that refuses to let I think that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the guy you'll get. He wouldn't step

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<v Speaker 1>aside to let his grandmother cross the street. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I think the other factor on it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the other factor on it, Everson, is that I

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<v Speaker 1>like the fact that Jalen Hurts is starting for Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>and that there's still some question mark going forward on Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to be their starting quarterback going forward. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they want Jalen Hurts. Teammates really like him,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would love to cement. I mean, it appears

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<v Speaker 1>that Hurts might be the guy going forward, and they

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<v Speaker 1>would love for him to have a fourth start that

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<v Speaker 1>is strong, to finish the season on to help seem

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<v Speaker 1>in his status going forward. So I like that aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of it from an eagle standpoint as far as their

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<v Speaker 1>motivation to do well in this game. Now, Bill, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you see coming out of Washington? And then that's

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing on the Washington side is Taylor Heineke

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<v Speaker 1>took the first team reps in practice today. Ron Rivera

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<v Speaker 1>just had his press conference here within the last half

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<v Speaker 1>hour or so, and they're just they're not quite there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>On reading it now, Alex Smith says he felt good

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<v Speaker 1>out there today. Not practicing was part of the plan,

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<v Speaker 1>but they want to make sure that Alex Smith is ready,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I mean someone's got to take the first

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<v Speaker 1>team reps. If Alex Smith isn't, then Taylor Heineck's going

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<v Speaker 1>to for them. So I don't think you read that

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<v Speaker 1>much into it, but that's what's making the rounds on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter right now that oh lord, Taylor Heineck is taking

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<v Speaker 1>the first team reps in practice. But I think they

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<v Speaker 1>just want to make sure that Alex Smith is ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go. I fully expect Smith to be the starter

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday night. Who took I think regardless of who starts,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Schwartz is gonna bring the heat. He's bringing the

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<v Speaker 1>house probably on every passing play that he thinks is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be predictable. And no matter which, whether it's Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Smith trying to stay on that one leg or whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Heineke Heineken, Heineken Heineken, Yeah, no, I know

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<v Speaker 1>his name. I'm just messing with no. But as far

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<v Speaker 1>as Heineke, young young quarterback, still gonna bring the heat.

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<v Speaker 1>So they have nothing to lose in Philly, So I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be one of those. Defensively, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a fun game for Philly potentially. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys realize this, but and

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is only in regards to yards, but

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<v Speaker 1>Washington's offense ranks thirtieth in the league. They're twenty sixth

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<v Speaker 1>against the run and twenty sixth against the pass. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean for twenty six running the ball in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six thrown. Yeah, yeah, so you know they haven't lit

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<v Speaker 1>it up offensively. They've lived off that defense and that

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<v Speaker 1>defensive front so far to you know, jump that record

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<v Speaker 1>to six and nine. And if you if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback like Alex Smith, you know you're gonna manage the

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<v Speaker 1>game accordingly. Let that defense win the game for you,

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<v Speaker 1>at least, don't blow it for the defense. So if

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<v Speaker 1>Alex is out there, he compliments that defense very well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about what Heinnick is gonna do, but

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Smith has shown that he can compliment this defense performance.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a better performance in what the one quarter

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<v Speaker 1>he played than Haskins did last week. Yeah they did well,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's Haskins, that's Haskins. I'm I think if they

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<v Speaker 1>have to, you know, they're gonna go with Alex Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, I mean not just now. If

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<v Speaker 1>they win the game, then that's what you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>see in the playoff as well. Yeah, and you saw

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<v Speaker 1>that no one claimed him, and they probably weren't going

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:05.919
<v Speaker 1>to claim him on waivers anyway because he had some

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>guarantees in his contract for next year. But yeah, he

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't get claimed. So you know, I've always said when

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you get cut like that, if you get cut for

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, not playing well, somebody might give you a chance.

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:23.120
<v Speaker 1>But if you get cut for not being prepared, boy,

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 1>you better watch out. You remember, all people the Texans

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:31.640
<v Speaker 1>are looking at him, and you know, you see what's

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>happening with DeShawn Watson. So I think he's being punished

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>by actually being touted by the Texas. They traded away

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>the whole team because Everson. You remember, and I can't

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>remember if it was. I think it was the eighty

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>sixth season, the last game, uh they started, Uh, the

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>quarterback from Southern Mississippi, umgee, and he was not prepared.

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Every ever played and I saw him play at Southern

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Mississippi and yeah, he was good, but he wasn't prepared

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>to play that game. You know, it's one thing to

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>be bad, but he wasn't prepared, and Tom finally yanked

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:14.719
<v Speaker 1>him out of the game, if you remember, and that

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>was the end of his NFL career, if I remember correctly, well,

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>if I would call, I thought Tom started him against

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the Chicago Bears, didn't it. Yes, it was. I thought

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 1>it was the final game of the season. No, it

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the final game, but it was his final game,

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, Tom, you know, let's be real. Now, Tom

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Landry greatest coach in history. But Tom, when you have

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>guys like Tom Landry with the kind of power that

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>they have, Tom Landry, put Reggie call, You're in to

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>prove a point. Let's be real, You're never gonna be

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>prepared for the nineteen eighty five, eighty six Chicago Bears.

0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>That is not going to happen. So putting Reggie call

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>in the game, it tried. Tom Langie was letting us know,

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>you can have a quarterback controversy all you want, but

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>there's no quarterback controversy here. And I'm gonna show you why.

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>So he threw Reggie to the dogs. Man, he threw him. No,

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>he threw them to the Lions, not Bears. He threw

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>them to the Lions. And there was a tough, tough

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>sledding for that game, whichever one he played in. So

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>it was the eighties. It was the last sixth season, right,

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>eighty six, all right? The last game of the eighty

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>sixth season was against the Bears, and I'm looking through

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>it here. Collier was four out of nine for forty

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>four yards and two interceptions. Steve Pelour was fourteen out

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>of twenty eight, four hundred and seventy five, a pick

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>and a touchdown. It doesn't designate here unless I get

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>it to the play by the final score. The final

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>score was twenty four to ten in favor of the

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Chicago Bears. The year before it was forty four nothing.

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>And I think we had God, I think we must

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>have gone through three quarterbacks in nineteen eighty five. And

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I think Carlier probably started that game, because Carlier definitely started.

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>He started, Lord came definitely started. Yeah, yeah, two picks.

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't ready, he didn't know the plays. I just remember.

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>So I was wrong. Pittsburgh picked him up and he

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>played two more games the next year, in two more games,

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and that was the end of his career. You're talking

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>about one of the when I say one of the

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 1>best athletes ever basketball football. He was six feet six

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>inches tall, I believe, and the guy could run just

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>as well as any quarterback in the league right now.

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean right now, Randall Cunningham couldn't hold a campbell

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>to his athleticism, and nor could these quarterbacks that we

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>have about there now, even Big Josh Allen, a sixth

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>round draft pick of the Cowboys in nineteen eighty three,

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>or Agie Collier. Let's let's be clear, that's one of those.

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>This is one of This is that era of you know,

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 1>can the black quarterback be a good quarterback? That's among

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>that era. So we were still as as black people

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to prove that we could play this game as

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback the way we play it. And now, of course,

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, we've evolved as a league in regards to

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>that subject, but at that time it was a taboo

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>subject and as a society also, by the way, no

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 1>doubt I tell you. Let me let me tell you

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a funny story. Funny story on Reggie Collier. Southern Mississippi

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>was playing Missouri in a bowl game in Jack's Jacksonville.

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>It was in Jacksonville, so that would would that have

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>been the Tangerine Bowl or whatever, the Gator Bowl. Yeah,

0:32:57.160 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and it was a real cold day, and and Missouri

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>put a beating on him, right, And so me and

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>my college roommate John, we're chairing in the stands and

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>some guy goes goes, well, your your quarterback, did he

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>get any votes for the Heisman? Mine got so and

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>so votes for the Heisman? I said, I don't know

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>about the Heisman, but my quarterback's got twenty four points

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>on the board and yours got zero. Okay, what is it, mickey?

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>What Missouri won a bowl game? Oh? Yes, Missouri won

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>a bowl. Many tell you how many bowl games they've

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>been winning. How how many they gonna win this year? Uh,

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:49.880
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<v Speaker 1>of Mixed Shots. I'm gonna throw something out at both

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>of you and maybe you can think about somebody that

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you would pick for this. I'll give you my guy

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:35.240
<v Speaker 1>and is sort of an unsung guy on this team,

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>an unsung star on this team. Don't have to be

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 1>a star, but someone who's who's done well this year,

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you think has done well that people aren't talking about.

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:49.399
<v Speaker 1>And a guy I'll throw out there. So I'll rot

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I did a little research on him last night as well,

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>because I was not as familiar with his backstory. Is

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 1>c J. Goodwin? You know, he's been a mainstay on

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>special teams, you know, throughout this season. And then of course,

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>as Mickey pointed out, and as you saw if you're

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>watching closely the game the other day, you got I

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>think sixteen snaps on defense. They used him with Jalen

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Hurts at quarterback for the Eagles, and so, you know,

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting, Mickey, in this uh covid environment

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>that we're in, we're not hearing a lot of a

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of the stories of players who aren't stars on

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 1>the team because the media doesn't have access to them

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 1>in the locker room like they normally do. You know,

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 1>in a normal year, you know CJ. Goodwin, You know,

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 1>it's not like a player like CJ. Goodwin, you know,

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:49.320
<v Speaker 1>he would being at his locker in the locker room. Media.

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, he can come in the locker room and

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the media is not going to be hounded ever an interview.

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 1>But you would hear his story as the season progresses.

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 1>But did you know CJ. Goodwin? He grew up I

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:04.479
<v Speaker 1>believe in West Virginia and he didn't play football until

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>his senior year in high school. He was a basketball player,

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 1>went to Fairmont State University. May have gotten to a

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 1>different school first, but wound up at Fairmont State West

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Virginia as a basketball player, and then he walked on

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>in the football team as a wide receiver. His position

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 1>coach got a job at California University in Pennsylvania, and

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>so he wound up. He wrapped up his career as

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver at California University in Pennsylvania. We're talking

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Division two football. He of course did not get drafted,

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 1>but he's been. The Cowboys are his seventh team in

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. He did not convert to cornerback until twenty sixteen,

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 1>at the age of twenty six with the Falcons, and

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>he played a couple of years with the Falcons, and

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 1>then he bounced around a couple of teams before the

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys picked him up last year and now here at

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the age of thirty, he is found his niche in

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>the National Football League as a special teams guy for

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys and now they're he's in an advanced to

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the point where they were using him in sub packages

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>in the game against the Eagles. I just think that's

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 1>a remarkable story of that people may not have heard

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 1>about C J. Goodwin. Hey, Bill, you are so right.

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really noticing until you said it. You don't

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 1>really get those human interest stories. This year, we hardly

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:32.399
<v Speaker 1>haven't had any. Everything's been about the team. Everything's been

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 1>from a virtual press conference standpoint. You know, no one

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>can get close enough to where you can find out thing.

0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I remember we were, of course, you know, years prior,

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 1>going all the way back to my years. You know,

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 1>people are always call and wanted to do a special

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>story on you and learn more about you. I had

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 1>no idea that that was his story, Bill. I think

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that's very amazing, and I love hearing stories like that.

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 1>When I was coming, I was a free agent all

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:04.840
<v Speaker 1>so many people. I'm still living the home of my

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>mom for like the first two years of my career,

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>so I'm always getting I was always getting calls and

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>visits from people in Hamilton Park saying my son hadn't

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>played ball in five years after you got out of college.

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, can you help him get a free agent

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 1>try out? You know, everyone is And I got kind

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>of offended because it's like well, if Everyson Watts can

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>do it, well, I'm sure my son can do it,

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you know. And that's how I was taking it, because

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 1>I had so many people that would come up to

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 1>me and say, hey, everything, can you help my son

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>get a tryout? Like I guess you know they have.

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>That's when the Cowboys had the all tryout thing going on,

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:51.879
<v Speaker 1>really just for pr purposes. They weren't signing anybody from

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 1>those tryouts, but you know, that's the kind of thing

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>that there was always hope out there for people that

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 1>want to play. And that story you just told that

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:05.800
<v Speaker 1>gives a lot of people hope. And I love those stories.

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 1>People think I walked on with the Cowboys. No, it

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a walk on position. They're always trying to say,

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 1>because you're a free agent that you walked on. No,

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I was. I came through Grambling the proper way, and

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I was, you know, passed up through the draft and

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 1>signed as a free agent on Draft Day. That's different

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>from walking on. But that's what people had in their heads,

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and they just assumed if Everyson Wataz can do it,

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess anybody can do it. That's hope for my

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:36.320
<v Speaker 1>son or hope for me. And I headed to downstair

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:40.280
<v Speaker 1>the hopes. But really, stories like what you just told

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that can inspire a lot of people. Yea, and not

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>even just from a from a sports standpoint. I mean,

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:50.839
<v Speaker 1>think about it. How many people out there this year

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 1>have lost their jobs, have all? You know that the

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:55.880
<v Speaker 1>way that they were thought they were gonna make a

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 1>living and they're gonna have to take another go a

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 1>different route. Now, well, c J good one, all right,

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:02.759
<v Speaker 1>he thought he's gonna be a basketball player and then

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 1>he had to take another round. He thought he's gonna

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>be a wide receiver. He's taking another and he's twenty

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 1>six years old, three years in six years? Al right,

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Come on, and people can apply that too, even to

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 1>their own lives. I mean, those are the type stories

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:19.400
<v Speaker 1>that sports. Uh, you hear those type stories and it

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 1>inspires people in all walks alive. Go ahead, Mickey, I

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, and I was trying to look up

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>his stats, so I don't know if you pointed it out. Um,

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:30.439
<v Speaker 1>he leads the team with ten special teams tackles, so

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>he didn't make a niche for himself. And you know

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 1>that The sad part about it is, I bet the

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>majority of the media could walk into that locker room

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and they couldn't pick out C. J. Goodwin. I mean,

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 1>we haven't been around. We haven't been around these guys.

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 1>You know. I was. I was looking on the field

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>today when we were watching practice, and it's like, Oh,

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.799
<v Speaker 1>that assistant coach, who's he? I hadn't see you him.

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't met him. I didn't talk to him. Uh.

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.880
<v Speaker 1>It's just uh, you guys there. You guys think you

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:01.839
<v Speaker 1>didn't know the end be a draft players. You wait

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.239
<v Speaker 1>till the NFL Draft comes you probably you guys won't

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:09.879
<v Speaker 1>know anybody it's drafted. That's right, absolutely right, that thing.

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I got one more go ahead, I got one more

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 1>thing before we go. Two days ago. You gotta take

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>your guy. No, I'm talking about. Two days ago was

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 1>a special day. It was my birthday. Y'all missed it.

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I just knew Chris was gonna say something because as

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 1>a producer, that is his job. He's over there. You

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 1>should have said something, Chris. You should have told the boy.

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 1>So you want me to tell him. Y'all supposed to

0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>surprise me. You're supposed to be like, hey, guys, cowboy fans,

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a special day. To day. It's ever. See, I'm

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>doing my Bill Jones in personalize that so money, Come on,

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:55.400
<v Speaker 1>that should have been the deal. I have to tell

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:58.320
<v Speaker 1>you the day I forget tomorrow. I'll forget tomorrow. You

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.840
<v Speaker 1>miss you got sixty one on December twenty eighth, me

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 1>and Denzel Washington. By the way, you guys, Okay, you

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:12.319
<v Speaker 1>guys missed us the same age you you day, same day.

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:15.439
<v Speaker 1>You guys missed mine nineteen days ago. So that's no

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 1>no offense. Come on, SPADs, you gotta tell us that.

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Huh yeah. Now see, SPADs is ashamed of getting older.

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't look ashamed of it. I am very glad

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting older because that's tech. Shram said, it's better

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>than the alternative. Yes it is, so I believe text

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 1>on that work. So, Everson, how did you celebrate your

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>fourteenth birthday? Yeah? Mexican food. Mexican food. And did you

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 1>watch the football? Guy? I stayed home, Mexican food. I

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 1>stayed home, spent it with the family. You watched the

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 1>football game that day? But mean you watched the football

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:05.720
<v Speaker 1>game that day? Your fourteen birthday? December twenty eighth, nineteen

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 1>seventy five. Oh you know what you know, what happened

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that day? That's me man. I looked on Facebook. All

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I saw was Drew Pierson talking about that special day

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and why the origin of the Hele Mary pass. So

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I told you guys the story. My mom was making cake.

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 1>She had no interest in whatever Drew and Roger was doing.

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>All he wanted to do was make my birthday cake.

0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:36.479
<v Speaker 1>And that was a good day. Okay, quickly, I'm gonna

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 1>give you my guy that probably went out in the radar.

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams has started every game this season, and as

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, he's played one thousand and sixty

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>two of one thousand and sixty three snaps this year

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>at left guard and has played well. By the way,

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:01.279
<v Speaker 1>everybody kept wanting to moving the tackle, wanted somebody to

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:03.719
<v Speaker 1>take over his spot. I think in his third year,

0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he's settled in and become a very good

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:11.919
<v Speaker 1>left guard. Maybe not a pro bowler, but a guy

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:16.359
<v Speaker 1>that you can win games with. He definitely has all

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 1>the experience on that offensive line at that point. He's

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the guy, right, He's the guy that they have to

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 1>look to for experience, which is which is crazy. I'm

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna go ahead and pick mine right quick. And that's

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he qualifies because he's a superstar.

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 1>To me, that's a Marie Cooper, you know, to me

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I just talked about, you know, I talked about yesterday.

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 1>This whole team is full of underdogs this year, the

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:44.879
<v Speaker 1>entire roster, and Cooper could have just you know, just

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 1>tripped over his own look from pounding from not having

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott as his quarterback. He hung in there, played

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>strong all year long. Consistency is what you need in

0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:59.719
<v Speaker 1>a year like this, and a Marie Cooper has shown that,

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 1>hands down the most consistent player on this team. Eleven

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred yards. I think he's set a personal record in

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>receptions over eighty plus. So yes, Amara Cooper will be

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:15.359
<v Speaker 1>my guy and Everson. How many times do we see

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 1>players who signed big contracts who don't live up to

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 1>that contract I don't live up to It's a it's

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>a it's a problem I'd love to have. But but

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 1>it can be a problem of being able to live

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.319
<v Speaker 1>up to that big contract. But but Amari has done

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that this year, and he had he hadn't said a word.

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 1>He has not said a word. He just goes out

0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and plays ball. Eighty six catches, one thousand and seventy

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 1>three yards and five touchdowns, which ties for the team

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:52.319
<v Speaker 1>lead and touchdowns. All right, that doesn't for Mick shots

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 1>for this good year, Cotton Bull Wednesday. Uh got to

0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:00.040
<v Speaker 1>show tomorrow. Doesn't look like I'm gonna be able to

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 1>be here tomorrow for that show, Mickey and ever so

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 1>we got well, I've got to figure that out. Okay,

0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 1>he's got No one can replace your bill, that's right,

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:16.840
<v Speaker 1>all right, No one can place so what we have

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 1>on And no matter how much love we give him,

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:25.960
<v Speaker 1>it's only because you're not here. Okay. Well, in the meantime,

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Happy new Year. I'll see you next year, all right,

0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 1>The new year's good. But okay, all right, we'll talk

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 1>to Cowboy. They'll talk at you tomorrow one thirty on

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