Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys apt Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola and here it is. It's a Wednesday
Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco. And Everson Walls, when he's
Speaker 1: signed on from Mick Shots today, was asking what winds?
Speaker 1: What day is it? It's a victory? What you know
Speaker 1: what this is? Everson? It just occurred to me, this
Speaker 1: is what? Okay, Well, what am I gonna say? Wednesday? Right?
Speaker 1: It's a winning Wednesday? You know what it also is
Speaker 1: it's a good Year Cotton Bowl when that makes it
Speaker 1: even more of a winning Winds day. And salute to
Speaker 1: you Texas long Horns out there. The long Horns win
Speaker 1: the Alamo Bowl last night. Yes, they finished off the
Speaker 1: season and they found a quarterback in Casey Thompson in
Speaker 1: the second half of that game. And Mickey, how's Missouri
Speaker 1: gonna do it? It's bowl game later this afternoon they
Speaker 1: are gonna cancel. Hey, Missouri is playing Grambling State where
Speaker 1: we're gonna play Valentine's Day, right, spa, right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have our bowl game. You can't, you can't let you
Speaker 1: can't let kids go home for Christmas. I just you
Speaker 1: just can't. No, you can't. That's right. You know it's
Speaker 1: funny because oh you Lincoln Riley said, Uh, they decided
Speaker 1: to send their kids home for Christmas, and then they
Speaker 1: had their COVID report come out yesterday and they had
Speaker 1: no COVID reports, nobody positive. I talked to a coach,
Speaker 1: an assistant coach at another Big twelve school, and texted
Speaker 1: him and said, hey, Riley sent his players home, and
Speaker 1: he said, well, let's see if they're able to play
Speaker 1: the game next Wednesday. But it looks like they're gonna play.
Speaker 1: So I think everybody, I think everybody on the team's
Speaker 1: already had COVID and so they were. They were good.
Speaker 1: Therefore there's no risk. Yeah, that's that's right, that's right. Yeah, supposedly, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, Missouri had a calcarious outbreak and uh, and
Speaker 1: then they got accused of of making a phony cancelation
Speaker 1: because they didn't want to get beat bad again. Who
Speaker 1: are they supposed to play? Iowa? They could play, You
Speaker 1: can't beat Iowa having those bags. I've seen you guys
Speaker 1: play well. And right now we've got Wake for Us
Speaker 1: taken on Wisconsin in the something the Duke's Mayo Bowl. Hey, Mickey,
Speaker 1: can you name it? Mickey? Can you name a Cowboys
Speaker 1: player who went to Wake Forest? Not a current one,
Speaker 1: all time, all time Cowboys player, Come on, all time
Speaker 1: roster who went to Wake four? Oh, it's the running back?
Speaker 1: Um um. I can't think of his name, and I
Speaker 1: could see him. I talked to him all the time
Speaker 1: play tennis. Again. No, not Dennison. There's there's a linebacker
Speaker 1: still playing in the league who went to Wake for
Speaker 1: Us who started his career with the Cowboy Yeah, and
Speaker 1: his name, his name just came as this question. I'm
Speaker 1: curious too, it's it's the run To answer the question,
Speaker 1: I'm extremely curious on who this guy is. It's the
Speaker 1: running back, isn't it. Oh? No, that was Winston Salem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not Wake for Us, Timmy Newsome, Kyle WILLI will you? Yes? Five?
Speaker 1: He made a tow Wilbur went to Wake for He
Speaker 1: made a tackle in the other the other last week
Speaker 1: or so when I was watching Always it's always the
Speaker 1: greatest play that Kyle Wilbur. Yeah, he's with the Raiders.
Speaker 1: But what's the greatest play Kyle Wilbur made in his
Speaker 1: Cowboys career, Noyle, you got me there that Thursday night
Speaker 1: game in Minnesota when he recovered the fumble on the
Speaker 1: muff punt a couple of few years ago. Anyway, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's move on. I think Bill is related to him,
Speaker 1: That's what it is. Let's move on to current day
Speaker 1: Cowboys because the Cowboys is not only Mickey Spagnola who
Speaker 1: is at work at the in the s WBC Mortgage
Speaker 1: studios inside Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, but
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are back to work at Forde Center at
Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco, right, Mickey. And aren't they glad
Speaker 1: they've got the Ford Center because it's been pouring here
Speaker 1: all morning long. So they again had the ability to
Speaker 1: practice indoors on Wednesday. Uh, they were in shells, had
Speaker 1: the music blaring because this is going to be away
Speaker 1: game with no fans. But maybe they were trying nicky.
Speaker 1: How do you know this because I thought when they're
Speaker 1: indoors that no reporters could be inside Ford Center to
Speaker 1: witness practice. Or were you able to be only the
Speaker 1: two special reporters myself and Rob Philip. This is Jerry's boy, Bill,
Speaker 1: Jerry's boy. Come on man, cree pandemic. Come on man.
Speaker 1: They were sharing ice cream together and whatever they were
Speaker 1: talking about me. Come on man, this is a this
Speaker 1: is a company kept man right here with talking about
Speaker 1: on this. Yeah. I wish, I wish all that was true.
Speaker 1: We were the pool reporters and we had to brave
Speaker 1: the outdoor elements to get into the Ford Center to
Speaker 1: be able to give you a sanitized report on what
Speaker 1: happened in practice. And that sanitize I must say before
Speaker 1: you continue, SPADs, if they're going to try, and you know,
Speaker 1: simulate noise, then why not simulate bad weather as well,
Speaker 1: because they're going to be outdoors. Correct, they may be
Speaker 1: outdoors tomorrow. They may be outdoors tomorrow. They've been practicing
Speaker 1: indoors on Wednesday, uh for the last month or so
Speaker 1: so uh And I don't know if that was to
Speaker 1: keep the other media away or what, or they just
Speaker 1: didn't want to let them into the facility after the
Speaker 1: NFL cracked down on the COVID nineteen protocols. Uh. So, anyway,
Speaker 1: I can tell you, I gotta ask you go ahead.
Speaker 1: Do you think Tom Landry would would allow us to
Speaker 1: be indoors before this game? You had, you had no choice,
Speaker 1: You had no facility, wells looas Fieldhouse, remember Undhouse. That's right,
Speaker 1: that's why was your indoor facility. You actually would. It
Speaker 1: is just an alternative spot. When the field is so
Speaker 1: wet and the grass was so soggy, we would go
Speaker 1: to Lows and practice on our turf still outdoors, outdoors,
Speaker 1: but it was only because it was better footing on
Speaker 1: their turf as opposed to the natural grass that we
Speaker 1: had when Tom Langer was there. Yeah, there's no sense
Speaker 1: messing up field House too. There's no sense miss messing
Speaker 1: up practice just because the weather's bad. You know, if
Speaker 1: you have an alternative, you gotta get reps right. So,
Speaker 1: having seen the team stretch warm up drills, I can
Speaker 1: tell you that Layton vander Esh was not practicing. Donovan Wilson,
Speaker 1: who made it back for the game, was not practicing. Uh,
Speaker 1: neither was Darian Thompson who's in concussion protocol. And Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott came out out probably did whatever he does before
Speaker 1: practice on his own and then came out and got
Speaker 1: on the resistance chords. I would imagine he was going
Speaker 1: to be limited, and they did designate Zach Martin on
Speaker 1: reserve injured return, but he wasn't going to do anything
Speaker 1: more than rehab work. It looked like maybe work on
Speaker 1: the continue working on the resistance chords. So that's your
Speaker 1: guys who were and were not available for practice today.
Speaker 1: Did you see Xavier Woods? You mentioned Woods? I did not,
Speaker 1: and Xavier Woods was out there taking part in everything
Speaker 1: we saw that we were allowed to see, and it
Speaker 1: looked like he intended to practice. He had a helmet
Speaker 1: with him, so it looked like he was going to
Speaker 1: do something. Mike McCarthy said he probably would be limited,
Speaker 1: but felt like he would move into practice a little
Speaker 1: bit more after they see what he was able to
Speaker 1: do with that rib injury. We're based on the limited
Speaker 1: information that you know, spags. Are those situations apt to change? What?
Speaker 1: Does Layton have a chance to play? Uh? Does does
Speaker 1: Thompson have a chance to come out of the the concussion protocol? Uh?
Speaker 1: If this is not the final, say so right? I mean,
Speaker 1: does Zach Martins have a chance now? He he does not.
Speaker 1: Jerry mentioned it on his radio segment yesterday that maybe
Speaker 1: for the future, but probably not this week. I think
Speaker 1: Layton's done. Um, I mean, he's not gonna play. He's
Speaker 1: got a high ankle spring. Those things are usually three
Speaker 1: to four weeks, so I don't know if he would
Speaker 1: even make it if they ended up qualifying for the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I would say no on Darien for the NFC Championship. Ye, yes,
Speaker 1: yes he would. Bill I met the first the first
Speaker 1: playoff game, right and Day and Thompson in in concussion protocol.
Speaker 1: I think that one's going to be if he makes
Speaker 1: it back or not. Usually you end up missing a week.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of the Cowboys' injury port at this point.
Speaker 1: I'm listening to those safeties and with Donovan Wilson if
Speaker 1: he aggravated his growing I mean things if if, if
Speaker 1: Woods isn't able to make it back and Thompson not
Speaker 1: out of concussion protocol, they're starting to get thin at safety. Yes,
Speaker 1: as they did in the game. Now, from what I
Speaker 1: saw Woods doing in the portion we get to watch,
Speaker 1: I would say seventy five percent chance he plays. He
Speaker 1: looked like he was moving pretty well. But you're right
Speaker 1: on Thompson and Donovan Wilson and even if those two
Speaker 1: are ready to go, they may have to get Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis actual some snaps at safety, which he moved there,
Speaker 1: and Mike Nolan pointed out that he really didn't get
Speaker 1: any snaps in practice that week, and he basically, you know,
Speaker 1: when they got to Saturday or whatever and they talked
Speaker 1: about it, he said that Jordan Luce said, just put
Speaker 1: me out there and tell me what the what the
Speaker 1: calls are, I'm good to go. And you know, he
Speaker 1: had the one play that he I think he ended
Speaker 1: up getting called for interference on, but other than that,
Speaker 1: you know, he got got a few snaps back there,
Speaker 1: So we'll see where that goes. The previous week made
Speaker 1: some I thought he made a big leap in the
Speaker 1: playmaking ability, made some big plays in the previous game.
Speaker 1: I think he's been a big part of this third
Speaker 1: down resurgence by the Cowboys. Uh, Like I said, maybe
Speaker 1: not this past week, but the week prior to that.
Speaker 1: So he's uh, you know, how there is sometimes things
Speaker 1: clicked for guys, Just like with Anthony Brown, he and
Speaker 1: Jordan at one point seemed to really understand from that
Speaker 1: slot position just how important it is for you to
Speaker 1: make plays instead of just being just another another stick
Speaker 1: man out there. They weren't looking, they weren't reacting, they
Speaker 1: were anticipating. And that's what I loved about what Anthony did.
Speaker 1: And I've been seeing that from Jordan Lewis as well,
Speaker 1: so Donovan Wilson the growing right. He's trying to come
Speaker 1: back from that in the week. I tried that once
Speaker 1: played against the Giants the previous week. O J. Anderson
Speaker 1: lifted me up on his elbow and brought me down
Speaker 1: on my one leg and it shook something. I still
Speaker 1: have a knot down there. It's never going away. So
Speaker 1: I had never missed a game or play actually, and
Speaker 1: so here there's my chance to I didn't want to
Speaker 1: miss a game. So they were trying to get me
Speaker 1: to go against Minnesota the next week. It was it
Speaker 1: was no go. I couldn't do anything. They wrapped me.
Speaker 1: First of all, I lost feeling in the leg because
Speaker 1: they wrapped it so tight, so that I wasn't doing
Speaker 1: well anywhere. I couldn't even feel it. I got out
Speaker 1: there and tried to play a couple of times. Anthony
Speaker 1: car There ran by me so fast. I'm like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing my team any good. So I have.
Speaker 1: Out of my few injuries I've had, the growing was
Speaker 1: one of them. And yeah, I'm not looking for Wilson
Speaker 1: to come back. They didn't just put a little Ben
Speaker 1: Gay on it, and so they get out there big boy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Back in the day, that was kind of the stablish quo. Right, Yeah, absolutely, Hey, Everson,
Speaker 1: I'd love to get your take on Trayvon Diggs. You know,
Speaker 1: he makes that interception the other day and I immediately
Speaker 1: thought of Everson. Uh, you know, he just has that
Speaker 1: natural playmaking ability, the hands, the the instincts, wide receiver
Speaker 1: type instincts, whatever, that's exactly what this secondary needs. They did,
Speaker 1: and you know, I like I like the fact that
Speaker 1: to me, all interceptions are good interceptions. You could say
Speaker 1: it was a blowout at the time or whatever. He
Speaker 1: needed that interception, and after coming back and kind of
Speaker 1: giving up some plays. Uh, it's been a tough year
Speaker 1: for him. I know about those tough years. I was
Speaker 1: blessed enough. You know, I got beat as much as
Speaker 1: as as as Diggs did this year. I got beat
Speaker 1: in that nineteen eighty one, my rookie year. I was
Speaker 1: just able to come back and counter that with interceptions.
Speaker 1: Now he hadn't gotten nearly as many as I have.
Speaker 1: But when you get that one or two or what
Speaker 1: they say, have three on the years, three, that's not
Speaker 1: that's like, that is not bad for a guy that
Speaker 1: came in he's missed some games, and to have three interceptions,
Speaker 1: that is not bad for a rookie to come in
Speaker 1: highly touted. And let's be let's be clear, if he
Speaker 1: gets another one in this game, we're going to be
Speaker 1: saying that this is a successful rookie campaign for Diggs
Speaker 1: and he'll have a couple more playoff games too, right
Speaker 1: that those count? Of course? Yeah, yeah, all the way
Speaker 1: to the ye. You got a couple of your rookie
Speaker 1: year in the playoffs, didn't you? I did, I got
Speaker 1: I got a couple in San Francisco. I did? I did?
Speaker 1: I have two interceptions and the fumble recovery, by the way,
Speaker 1: So let's not forget that while we think of that
Speaker 1: game in other in other ways, Well, you get some
Speaker 1: skittles for all that. Thank you, Thank you. We could
Speaker 1: we could name an MVP award after skittles. How about that,
Speaker 1: the Skittles MVP Award. How how much do you think
Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs and CD Lamb for that matter, two rookies
Speaker 1: top draft picks, your first and second round draft picks.
Speaker 1: How much do you think they have grown as players
Speaker 1: even since the start of the regular season. I think
Speaker 1: it's so much, especially involving this season. You know, these
Speaker 1: guys are gonna come into twenty twenty one more more seeded.
Speaker 1: You know they're they're gonna have more experienced mentally, they have.
Speaker 1: They have gone through so much more than any other
Speaker 1: rookies have gone through this rookie class of twenty twenty
Speaker 1: over the entire NFL, and especially being with the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: with the ups and downs that we've had. If you're
Speaker 1: looking at Cedee Lamb, I'm if I'm Cede Lamb, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at myself saying, you know what, I made some
Speaker 1: mistakes this season, as a rookie should. But when you
Speaker 1: look at all the quarterbacks that I've had thrown me
Speaker 1: the ball and you look at my final numbers, those
Speaker 1: some great numbers. Those some great numbers. Just like I
Speaker 1: talked about with Digs. You know, he was injured for
Speaker 1: most of a lot of the season, came back, got
Speaker 1: the interception. Season's not over. He could get more he'll
Speaker 1: have one of the better rookie campaigns even at this
Speaker 1: point than any dB we've had in recent history with
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. All right, we're just getting started on
Speaker 1: this edition of Mixed Shots. We got so much to
Speaker 1: get to, including news out of Washington. Huh, it's kind
Speaker 1: of interesting. Who might be starting a quarterback on Sunday
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Speaker 1: And there's as I mentioned off the top of the show,
Speaker 1: there's major bowl games going on at AT and T
Speaker 1: Stadium this week. The Cotton Bowl as Oklahoma and Florida tonight,
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Speaker 1: in a national semi final. You know, Mickey, and ever
Speaker 1: since they announced they're going to have a little less
Speaker 1: than eighteen thousand fans at the college games this week,
Speaker 1: how do you think it's gone, Mickey? This year? With
Speaker 1: fans in the stands at Cowboys games where there's been
Speaker 1: as many as thirty thousand there. Yeah, you know, and
Speaker 1: the way, as big as that stadium is, thirty thousand
Speaker 1: is kind of less than a third capacity. The people
Speaker 1: are spaced out so much. I mean, when you're sitting
Speaker 1: there and we're pretty high in the press box, it
Speaker 1: doesn't look like there's thirty thousand people in the stadium
Speaker 1: now where you see kind of get a feel for
Speaker 1: it if you get there. You know, normally I get
Speaker 1: there two hours two and a half hours before kickoff.
Speaker 1: But if you get there about an hour or before kickoff,
Speaker 1: there's you know, a lot of people walking around outside.
Speaker 1: But other than that, you know, it seems like it's
Speaker 1: gone seamlessly. Now Here's the thing though, for tonight, for
Speaker 1: the college game. You know, the Cowboys when they've played
Speaker 1: those day games, or even if it's been a night game,
Speaker 1: the doors are open and the roof's open. But when
Speaker 1: it's raining, I don't think you can get the airflow
Speaker 1: that Jerry was talking about unless they want to get
Speaker 1: rain coming in. I guess you could leave the doors open,
Speaker 1: but the roof would have to be closed, and that
Speaker 1: hasn't happened in a game yet. That's right. It's interesting. Um,
Speaker 1: and I don't even think they ever would have envisioned,
Speaker 1: even when they built the stadium that they would have
Speaker 1: the roof open for a game in which it was
Speaker 1: raining outside. Yeah, let's open it up and just have
Speaker 1: to kind of like old times. Yeah, it's probably not
Speaker 1: better be wet and get COVID, be gevid. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it's probably good for
Speaker 1: the video board to get rain on. Hey guys, I
Speaker 1: had a I had I have a problem here in
Speaker 1: regards to how things stack up this weekend. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: we were all talking about what the Cowboys have to
Speaker 1: do right to stay in and that's all finally good.
Speaker 1: We feel like we're gonna handle our business in New Jersey.
Speaker 1: But what do you think Philadelphia is gonna do with
Speaker 1: the Redskins? Do they hate the Redskins more than they
Speaker 1: hate the Cowboys? Okay? Are they gonna lay down and
Speaker 1: allow this team to go into to win the game
Speaker 1: and go into the playoffs? Is little is little Jim
Speaker 1: Schwartz right? Is he gonna be stubborn as always and
Speaker 1: refuse to lay down as maybe some Philadelphia fans might
Speaker 1: want him to I think it's a very interesting notion.
Speaker 1: Someone brought up to me that Philly just might take
Speaker 1: this game to spite us. What do you guys think. Well, now,
Speaker 1: Jim Schortz, what he is telling the media is that
Speaker 1: is that we're gonna call us. We need to make
Speaker 1: this a no cap day, that Washington doesn't come into
Speaker 1: our place and put division champion caps on in our stadium.
Speaker 1: So that's the motivation that he's using for his players
Speaker 1: right now. Do you believe him? Oh? Yeah, him, absolutely, Yeah, Jim.
Speaker 1: Jim hates to lose. What guys recall when he got
Speaker 1: mad at Jim harballf of not shaking his hand properly
Speaker 1: when both of them were head coaches in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and he chased him down as as Hallball was going
Speaker 1: into the locker room and he confronted him about that.
Speaker 1: Overenthusias asked the handshake at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: So that's the gym SS I want to see on Sunday.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see a nice GYMSS. I want
Speaker 1: the guy that refuses to let I think that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's the guy you'll get. He wouldn't step
Speaker 1: aside to let his grandmother cross the street. That's right,
Speaker 1: you know. I think the other factor on it. I
Speaker 1: think the other factor on it, Everson, is that I
Speaker 1: like the fact that Jalen Hurts is starting for Philadelphia
Speaker 1: and that there's still some question mark going forward on Okay,
Speaker 1: who's going to be their starting quarterback going forward. I
Speaker 1: think that they want Jalen Hurts. Teammates really like him,
Speaker 1: and they would love to cement. I mean, it appears
Speaker 1: that Hurts might be the guy going forward, and they
Speaker 1: would love for him to have a fourth start that
Speaker 1: is strong, to finish the season on to help seem
Speaker 1: in his status going forward. So I like that aspect
Speaker 1: of it from an eagle standpoint as far as their
Speaker 1: motivation to do well in this game. Now, Bill, what
Speaker 1: did you see coming out of Washington? And then that's
Speaker 1: the other thing on the Washington side is Taylor Heineke
Speaker 1: took the first team reps in practice today. Ron Rivera
Speaker 1: just had his press conference here within the last half
Speaker 1: hour or so, and they're just they're not quite there yet.
Speaker 1: On reading it now, Alex Smith says he felt good
Speaker 1: out there today. Not practicing was part of the plan,
Speaker 1: but they want to make sure that Alex Smith is ready,
Speaker 1: and so I mean someone's got to take the first
Speaker 1: team reps. If Alex Smith isn't, then Taylor Heineck's going
Speaker 1: to for them. So I don't think you read that
Speaker 1: much into it, but that's what's making the rounds on
Speaker 1: Twitter right now that oh lord, Taylor Heineck is taking
Speaker 1: the first team reps in practice. But I think they
Speaker 1: just want to make sure that Alex Smith is ready
Speaker 1: to go. I fully expect Smith to be the starter
Speaker 1: on Sunday night. Who took I think regardless of who starts,
Speaker 1: Uh Schwartz is gonna bring the heat. He's bringing the
Speaker 1: house probably on every passing play that he thinks is
Speaker 1: gonna be predictable. And no matter which, whether it's Alex
Speaker 1: Smith trying to stay on that one leg or whether
Speaker 1: it's a Heineke Heineken, Heineken Heineken, Yeah, no, I know
Speaker 1: his name. I'm just messing with no. But as far
Speaker 1: as Heineke, young young quarterback, still gonna bring the heat.
Speaker 1: So they have nothing to lose in Philly, So I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be one of those. Defensively, I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun game for Philly potentially. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys realize this, but and
Speaker 1: I know this is only in regards to yards, but
Speaker 1: Washington's offense ranks thirtieth in the league. They're twenty sixth
Speaker 1: against the run and twenty sixth against the pass. So
Speaker 1: I mean for twenty six running the ball in twenty
Speaker 1: six thrown. Yeah, yeah, so you know they haven't lit
Speaker 1: it up offensively. They've lived off that defense and that
Speaker 1: defensive front so far to you know, jump that record
Speaker 1: to six and nine. And if you if you're a
Speaker 1: quarterback like Alex Smith, you know you're gonna manage the
Speaker 1: game accordingly. Let that defense win the game for you,
Speaker 1: at least, don't blow it for the defense. So if
Speaker 1: Alex is out there, he compliments that defense very well.
Speaker 1: I don't know about what Heinnick is gonna do, but
Speaker 1: Alex Smith has shown that he can compliment this defense performance.
Speaker 1: He had a better performance in what the one quarter
Speaker 1: he played than Haskins did last week. Yeah they did well,
Speaker 1: Yeah that's Haskins, that's Haskins. I'm I think if they
Speaker 1: have to, you know, they're gonna go with Alex Smith.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I mean not just now. If
Speaker 1: they win the game, then that's what you're going to
Speaker 1: see in the playoff as well. Yeah, and you saw
Speaker 1: that no one claimed him, and they probably weren't going
Speaker 1: to claim him on waivers anyway because he had some
Speaker 1: guarantees in his contract for next year. But yeah, he
Speaker 1: didn't get claimed. So you know, I've always said when
Speaker 1: you get cut like that, if you get cut for
Speaker 1: you know, not playing well, somebody might give you a chance.
Speaker 1: But if you get cut for not being prepared, boy,
Speaker 1: you better watch out. You remember, all people the Texans
Speaker 1: are looking at him, and you know, you see what's
Speaker 1: happening with DeShawn Watson. So I think he's being punished
Speaker 1: by actually being touted by the Texas. They traded away
Speaker 1: the whole team because Everson. You remember, and I can't
Speaker 1: remember if it was. I think it was the eighty
Speaker 1: sixth season, the last game, uh they started, Uh, the
Speaker 1: quarterback from Southern Mississippi, umgee, and he was not prepared.
Speaker 1: Every ever played and I saw him play at Southern
Speaker 1: Mississippi and yeah, he was good, but he wasn't prepared
Speaker 1: to play that game. You know, it's one thing to
Speaker 1: be bad, but he wasn't prepared, and Tom finally yanked
Speaker 1: him out of the game, if you remember, and that
Speaker 1: was the end of his NFL career, if I remember correctly, well,
Speaker 1: if I would call, I thought Tom started him against
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, didn't it. Yes, it was. I thought
Speaker 1: it was the final game of the season. No, it
Speaker 1: wasn't the final game, but it was his final game,
Speaker 1: you know, Tom, you know, let's be real. Now, Tom
Speaker 1: Landry greatest coach in history. But Tom, when you have
Speaker 1: guys like Tom Landry with the kind of power that
Speaker 1: they have, Tom Landry, put Reggie call, You're in to
Speaker 1: prove a point. Let's be real, You're never gonna be
Speaker 1: prepared for the nineteen eighty five, eighty six Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: That is not going to happen. So putting Reggie call
Speaker 1: in the game, it tried. Tom Langie was letting us know,
Speaker 1: you can have a quarterback controversy all you want, but
Speaker 1: there's no quarterback controversy here. And I'm gonna show you why.
Speaker 1: So he threw Reggie to the dogs. Man, he threw him. No,
Speaker 1: he threw them to the Lions, not Bears. He threw
Speaker 1: them to the Lions. And there was a tough, tough
Speaker 1: sledding for that game, whichever one he played in. So
Speaker 1: it was the eighties. It was the last sixth season, right,
Speaker 1: eighty six, all right? The last game of the eighty
Speaker 1: sixth season was against the Bears, and I'm looking through
Speaker 1: it here. Collier was four out of nine for forty
Speaker 1: four yards and two interceptions. Steve Pelour was fourteen out
Speaker 1: of twenty eight, four hundred and seventy five, a pick
Speaker 1: and a touchdown. It doesn't designate here unless I get
Speaker 1: it to the play by the final score. The final
Speaker 1: score was twenty four to ten in favor of the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. The year before it was forty four nothing.
Speaker 1: And I think we had God, I think we must
Speaker 1: have gone through three quarterbacks in nineteen eighty five. And
Speaker 1: I think Carlier probably started that game, because Carlier definitely started.
Speaker 1: He started, Lord came definitely started. Yeah, yeah, two picks.
Speaker 1: He wasn't ready, he didn't know the plays. I just remember.
Speaker 1: So I was wrong. Pittsburgh picked him up and he
Speaker 1: played two more games the next year, in two more games,
Speaker 1: and that was the end of his career. You're talking
Speaker 1: about one of the when I say one of the
Speaker 1: best athletes ever basketball football. He was six feet six
Speaker 1: inches tall, I believe, and the guy could run just
Speaker 1: as well as any quarterback in the league right now.
Speaker 1: I mean right now, Randall Cunningham couldn't hold a campbell
Speaker 1: to his athleticism, and nor could these quarterbacks that we
Speaker 1: have about there now, even Big Josh Allen, a sixth
Speaker 1: round draft pick of the Cowboys in nineteen eighty three,
Speaker 1: or Agie Collier. Let's let's be clear, that's one of those.
Speaker 1: This is one of This is that era of you know,
Speaker 1: can the black quarterback be a good quarterback? That's among
Speaker 1: that era. So we were still as as black people
Speaker 1: trying to prove that we could play this game as
Speaker 1: a quarterback the way we play it. And now, of course,
Speaker 1: you know, we've evolved as a league in regards to
Speaker 1: that subject, but at that time it was a taboo
Speaker 1: subject and as a society also, by the way, no
Speaker 1: doubt I tell you. Let me let me tell you
Speaker 1: a funny story. Funny story on Reggie Collier. Southern Mississippi
Speaker 1: was playing Missouri in a bowl game in Jack's Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: It was in Jacksonville, so that would would that have
Speaker 1: been the Tangerine Bowl or whatever, the Gator Bowl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was a real cold day, and and Missouri
Speaker 1: put a beating on him, right, And so me and
Speaker 1: my college roommate John, we're chairing in the stands and
Speaker 1: some guy goes goes, well, your your quarterback, did he
Speaker 1: get any votes for the Heisman? Mine got so and
Speaker 1: so votes for the Heisman? I said, I don't know
Speaker 1: about the Heisman, but my quarterback's got twenty four points
Speaker 1: on the board and yours got zero. Okay, what is it, mickey?
Speaker 1: What Missouri won a bowl game? Oh? Yes, Missouri won
Speaker 1: a bowl. Many tell you how many bowl games they've
Speaker 1: been winning. How how many they gonna win this year? Uh,
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Speaker 1: All right, this is our final segment of this edition
Speaker 1: of Mixed Shots. I'm gonna throw something out at both
Speaker 1: of you and maybe you can think about somebody that
Speaker 1: you would pick for this. I'll give you my guy
Speaker 1: and is sort of an unsung guy on this team,
Speaker 1: an unsung star on this team. Don't have to be
Speaker 1: a star, but someone who's who's done well this year,
Speaker 1: you think has done well that people aren't talking about.
Speaker 1: And a guy I'll throw out there. So I'll rot
Speaker 1: I did a little research on him last night as well,
Speaker 1: because I was not as familiar with his backstory. Is
Speaker 1: c J. Goodwin? You know, he's been a mainstay on
Speaker 1: special teams, you know, throughout this season. And then of course,
Speaker 1: as Mickey pointed out, and as you saw if you're
Speaker 1: watching closely the game the other day, you got I
Speaker 1: think sixteen snaps on defense. They used him with Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts at quarterback for the Eagles, and so, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting, Mickey, in this uh covid environment
Speaker 1: that we're in, we're not hearing a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of the stories of players who aren't stars on
Speaker 1: the team because the media doesn't have access to them
Speaker 1: in the locker room like they normally do. You know,
Speaker 1: in a normal year, you know CJ. Goodwin, You know,
Speaker 1: it's not like a player like CJ. Goodwin, you know,
Speaker 1: he would being at his locker in the locker room. Media.
Speaker 1: You know, he can come in the locker room and
Speaker 1: the media is not going to be hounded ever an interview.
Speaker 1: But you would hear his story as the season progresses.
Speaker 1: But did you know CJ. Goodwin? He grew up I
Speaker 1: believe in West Virginia and he didn't play football until
Speaker 1: his senior year in high school. He was a basketball player,
Speaker 1: went to Fairmont State University. May have gotten to a
Speaker 1: different school first, but wound up at Fairmont State West
Speaker 1: Virginia as a basketball player, and then he walked on
Speaker 1: in the football team as a wide receiver. His position
Speaker 1: coach got a job at California University in Pennsylvania, and
Speaker 1: so he wound up. He wrapped up his career as
Speaker 1: a wide receiver at California University in Pennsylvania. We're talking
Speaker 1: Division two football. He of course did not get drafted,
Speaker 1: but he's been. The Cowboys are his seventh team in
Speaker 1: the NFL. He did not convert to cornerback until twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: at the age of twenty six with the Falcons, and
Speaker 1: he played a couple of years with the Falcons, and
Speaker 1: then he bounced around a couple of teams before the
Speaker 1: Cowboys picked him up last year and now here at
Speaker 1: the age of thirty, he is found his niche in
Speaker 1: the National Football League as a special teams guy for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and now they're he's in an advanced to
Speaker 1: the point where they were using him in sub packages
Speaker 1: in the game against the Eagles. I just think that's
Speaker 1: a remarkable story of that people may not have heard
Speaker 1: about C J. Goodwin. Hey, Bill, you are so right.
Speaker 1: I didn't really noticing until you said it. You don't
Speaker 1: really get those human interest stories. This year, we hardly
Speaker 1: haven't had any. Everything's been about the team. Everything's been
Speaker 1: from a virtual press conference standpoint. You know, no one
Speaker 1: can get close enough to where you can find out thing.
Speaker 1: I remember we were, of course, you know, years prior,
Speaker 1: going all the way back to my years. You know,
Speaker 1: people are always call and wanted to do a special
Speaker 1: story on you and learn more about you. I had
Speaker 1: no idea that that was his story, Bill. I think
Speaker 1: that's very amazing, and I love hearing stories like that.
Speaker 1: When I was coming, I was a free agent all
Speaker 1: so many people. I'm still living the home of my
Speaker 1: mom for like the first two years of my career,
Speaker 1: so I'm always getting I was always getting calls and
Speaker 1: visits from people in Hamilton Park saying my son hadn't
Speaker 1: played ball in five years after you got out of college.
Speaker 1: You know, can you help him get a free agent
Speaker 1: try out? You know, everyone is And I got kind
Speaker 1: of offended because it's like well, if Everyson Watts can
Speaker 1: do it, well, I'm sure my son can do it,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's how I was taking it, because
Speaker 1: I had so many people that would come up to
Speaker 1: me and say, hey, everything, can you help my son
Speaker 1: get a tryout? Like I guess you know they have.
Speaker 1: That's when the Cowboys had the all tryout thing going on,
Speaker 1: really just for pr purposes. They weren't signing anybody from
Speaker 1: those tryouts, but you know, that's the kind of thing
Speaker 1: that there was always hope out there for people that
Speaker 1: want to play. And that story you just told that
Speaker 1: gives a lot of people hope. And I love those stories.
Speaker 1: People think I walked on with the Cowboys. No, it
Speaker 1: wasn't a walk on position. They're always trying to say,
Speaker 1: because you're a free agent that you walked on. No,
Speaker 1: I was. I came through Grambling the proper way, and
Speaker 1: I was, you know, passed up through the draft and
Speaker 1: signed as a free agent on Draft Day. That's different
Speaker 1: from walking on. But that's what people had in their heads,
Speaker 1: and they just assumed if Everyson Wataz can do it,
Speaker 1: I guess anybody can do it. That's hope for my
Speaker 1: son or hope for me. And I headed to downstair
Speaker 1: the hopes. But really, stories like what you just told
Speaker 1: that can inspire a lot of people. Yea, and not
Speaker 1: even just from a from a sports standpoint. I mean,
Speaker 1: think about it. How many people out there this year
Speaker 1: have lost their jobs, have all? You know that the
Speaker 1: way that they were thought they were gonna make a
Speaker 1: living and they're gonna have to take another go a
Speaker 1: different route. Now, well, c J good one, all right,
Speaker 1: he thought he's gonna be a basketball player and then
Speaker 1: he had to take another round. He thought he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a wide receiver. He's taking another and he's twenty
Speaker 1: six years old, three years in six years? Al right,
Speaker 1: Come on, and people can apply that too, even to
Speaker 1: their own lives. I mean, those are the type stories
Speaker 1: that sports. Uh, you hear those type stories and it
Speaker 1: inspires people in all walks alive. Go ahead, Mickey, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, and I was trying to look up
Speaker 1: his stats, so I don't know if you pointed it out. Um,
Speaker 1: he leads the team with ten special teams tackles, so
Speaker 1: he didn't make a niche for himself. And you know
Speaker 1: that The sad part about it is, I bet the
Speaker 1: majority of the media could walk into that locker room
Speaker 1: and they couldn't pick out C. J. Goodwin. I mean,
Speaker 1: we haven't been around. We haven't been around these guys.
Speaker 1: You know. I was. I was looking on the field
Speaker 1: today when we were watching practice, and it's like, Oh,
Speaker 1: that assistant coach, who's he? I hadn't see you him.
Speaker 1: I hadn't met him. I didn't talk to him. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's just uh, you guys there. You guys think you
Speaker 1: didn't know the end be a draft players. You wait
Speaker 1: till the NFL Draft comes you probably you guys won't
Speaker 1: know anybody it's drafted. That's right, absolutely right, that thing.
Speaker 1: I got one more go ahead, I got one more
Speaker 1: thing before we go. Two days ago. You gotta take
Speaker 1: your guy. No, I'm talking about. Two days ago was
Speaker 1: a special day. It was my birthday. Y'all missed it.
Speaker 1: I just knew Chris was gonna say something because as
Speaker 1: a producer, that is his job. He's over there. You
Speaker 1: should have said something, Chris. You should have told the boy.
Speaker 1: So you want me to tell him. Y'all supposed to
Speaker 1: surprise me. You're supposed to be like, hey, guys, cowboy fans,
Speaker 1: it's a special day. To day. It's ever. See, I'm
Speaker 1: doing my Bill Jones in personalize that so money, Come on,
Speaker 1: that should have been the deal. I have to tell
Speaker 1: you the day I forget tomorrow. I'll forget tomorrow. You
Speaker 1: miss you got sixty one on December twenty eighth, me
Speaker 1: and Denzel Washington. By the way, you guys, Okay, you
Speaker 1: guys missed us the same age you you day, same day.
Speaker 1: You guys missed mine nineteen days ago. So that's no
Speaker 1: no offense. Come on, SPADs, you gotta tell us that.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah. Now see, SPADs is ashamed of getting older.
Speaker 1: I don't look ashamed of it. I am very glad
Speaker 1: I'm getting older because that's tech. Shram said, it's better
Speaker 1: than the alternative. Yes it is, so I believe text
Speaker 1: on that work. So, Everson, how did you celebrate your
Speaker 1: fourteenth birthday? Yeah? Mexican food. Mexican food. And did you
Speaker 1: watch the football? Guy? I stayed home, Mexican food. I
Speaker 1: stayed home, spent it with the family. You watched the
Speaker 1: football game that day? But mean you watched the football
Speaker 1: game that day? Your fourteen birthday? December twenty eighth, nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy five. Oh you know what you know, what happened
Speaker 1: that day? That's me man. I looked on Facebook. All
Speaker 1: I saw was Drew Pierson talking about that special day
Speaker 1: and why the origin of the Hele Mary pass. So
Speaker 1: I told you guys the story. My mom was making cake.
Speaker 1: She had no interest in whatever Drew and Roger was doing.
Speaker 1: All he wanted to do was make my birthday cake.
Speaker 1: And that was a good day. Okay, quickly, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you my guy that probably went out in the radar.
Speaker 1: Connor Williams has started every game this season, and as
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, he's played one thousand and sixty
Speaker 1: two of one thousand and sixty three snaps this year
Speaker 1: at left guard and has played well. By the way,
Speaker 1: everybody kept wanting to moving the tackle, wanted somebody to
Speaker 1: take over his spot. I think in his third year,
Speaker 1: I think he's settled in and become a very good
Speaker 1: left guard. Maybe not a pro bowler, but a guy
Speaker 1: that you can win games with. He definitely has all
Speaker 1: the experience on that offensive line at that point. He's
Speaker 1: the guy, right, He's the guy that they have to
Speaker 1: look to for experience, which is which is crazy. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and pick mine right quick. And that's
Speaker 1: I don't know if he qualifies because he's a superstar.
Speaker 1: To me, that's a Marie Cooper, you know, to me
Speaker 1: I just talked about, you know, I talked about yesterday.
Speaker 1: This whole team is full of underdogs this year, the
Speaker 1: entire roster, and Cooper could have just you know, just
Speaker 1: tripped over his own look from pounding from not having
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott as his quarterback. He hung in there, played
Speaker 1: strong all year long. Consistency is what you need in
Speaker 1: a year like this, and a Marie Cooper has shown that,
Speaker 1: hands down the most consistent player on this team. Eleven
Speaker 1: hundred yards. I think he's set a personal record in
Speaker 1: receptions over eighty plus. So yes, Amara Cooper will be
Speaker 1: my guy and Everson. How many times do we see
Speaker 1: players who signed big contracts who don't live up to
Speaker 1: that contract I don't live up to It's a it's
Speaker 1: a it's a problem I'd love to have. But but
Speaker 1: it can be a problem of being able to live
Speaker 1: up to that big contract. But but Amari has done
Speaker 1: that this year, and he had he hadn't said a word.
Speaker 1: He has not said a word. He just goes out
Speaker 1: and plays ball. Eighty six catches, one thousand and seventy
Speaker 1: three yards and five touchdowns, which ties for the team
Speaker 1: lead and touchdowns. All right, that doesn't for Mick shots
Speaker 1: for this good year, Cotton Bull Wednesday. Uh got to
Speaker 1: show tomorrow. Doesn't look like I'm gonna be able to
Speaker 1: be here tomorrow for that show, Mickey and ever so
Speaker 1: we got well, I've got to figure that out. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's got No one can replace your bill, that's right,
Speaker 1: all right, No one can place so what we have
Speaker 1: on And no matter how much love we give him,
Speaker 1: it's only because you're not here. Okay. Well, in the meantime,
Speaker 1: Happy new Year. I'll see you next year, all right,
Speaker 1: The new year's good. But okay, all right, we'll talk
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